Nike in Freefall, OpenAI Fires Spies, & G7 Dumps 100M Barrels | PBD #867

0:26Hey, how you guys doing? Hope you had a good weekend. I know we did. You know, what I have now is I have reminders for people to tell me there's baseball games. And I wish some people wouldn't remind me of one of the games that happened this weekend. But it is what it is. I mean, what could have Cole done? The guy pitches. You know, he does a good job. But hitters, you can't get one hit. So shout out to, who was the pitcher's name? Rasmussen. Rasmussen. You got to give him a shout out, man. Phenomenal job for what he did with that. Everybody kept telling me how special he is. I think he's 16 and 4, but you can tell this guy's a dog.

1:00Yes, he is. And good for you. But we got more games coming up here. There's a video I watched. Obviously, we got a lot of stories to cover, but I watched an interview with Denzel Washington. Let me tell you, the lady asks him a question about what do you think about all the things that are going on in the world and America politically? His answer is something every Republican, Democrat, and Independent should listen to. and I'm going to share that with you here today because I think it's brilliant the way Denzel answered it and I think if there's anybody that can break that down, it's Denzel. I'm a big fan of his and I think it's something we ought to cover.

1:37Nike stock is dropping left and right. I mean, you saw the other day Mbappe. Mbappe just signed a 10-year contract, not with Nike, not with Adidas, not with Puma, not with anybody but On Cloud. What? Really? Mbappe signs a 10-year,$210 million contract with Uncloud. I sat there. You know what I told the guys? I said, if I knew Mbappe was on the line, we would have made an offer like that to get Mbappe come to FLB. I mean, eventually it's going to get to that point. But you're watching how the market is open right now with what they're doing. But, yeah, he signed a$210 million contract on a major move.

2:15Mbappe leaves Nike for wanting to be the heart of its new football category at his prime. This is the all-time leading scorer in freaking World Cup ever. And the guy's now on cloud. So Nike's dropped. You know, Nike's dropped their revenue in China nine quarters in a row. Their stock has plummeted like this. But nine quarters in a row, they're selling less and less and less and less in China. They made a few mistakes. So it's not just here in America. No, it's not. This is all over the place. It is. And by the way, it's impacting also Jordan's income. Jordan, it's dropped 8%, something like that.

2:48You might have to start doing interviews again to play basketball again. He's going to be fine. He's worth$5 billion, but it is impacting. G7 decides to release 100 million barrels with everything that's going on. West Texas oiled this morning. Tom told me it's 89.80. And Tom also whispered to us that with Newsom talking about how great a state is, the fourth biggest economy in the world or the fifth biggest economy in the world, diesel is also the highest in America. 8.30 right now in the state of California. If you're in California driving those old Mercedes diesels, you're paying 8.30. That's why my dad used to drive the old Mercedes diesel.

3:23You're paying 830. Then, aside from that, rumors comes out from Russia. Hey, there may be a little virus spreading in Russia. Cost this girl's life. She died because she touched her. You know, she was messing around there. Then they put 200 people and shut down Russia. Saying, don't worry about it. We have it under control. And the rest of the world is supposed to believe they have it under control. And so, who knows? We'll get into that as well. I've never heard that. I've never heard that story before. That's weird. I've never seen that movie. An article comes out, data showing that being gay is no longer as cool as it used to be six years ago.

3:58Told you. So it is not, I mean, you know, and by the way, this is coming direct from CDC. This is not even making fun. This is not trolling or rage baiting. It's CDC data showing it's declining. It's declining. And watch what happens when companies like Disney start realizing it's not a good idea, and then kids don't want to be that because naturally that's not how God created men and women to be naturally. Naturally, that's not how it was created. Last week we had Jacob Coxon on, the anthropic whistleblower, and the interview drops tomorrow. And we talked about Chinese spies in different anthropic and open AI organizations.

4:40OpenAI just fires three safety researchers Accusing of sharing confidential company information And Anthropic claims popular Chinese AI model Has mythos, class hacking abilities I wonder where they're getting it from And if it's being passed down From folks that are working at Anthropic or OpenAI That are Chinese nationals Or if they're building it themselves Who knows? The reality of it is As a Chinese national You can work for these AI agencies and companies so maybe they're just passing on the information to others. Men are losing ground on the labor market. Here's why. It's an article from CNBC, which we'll get into.

5:17Another article by Zero Hedge talks about 11 million Americans, workers may need to change careers, switch careers by 2035. Tom Cruise comes out with a movie. What's the movie called, by the way? Digger? Digger. It's called Digger. $160 million climate propaganda film, Digger. You know what it makes opening weekend, Vinny? Can you tell us what it makes opening weekend? $8 million, the biggest flop of 2020. So let me put it to you this way. Imagine you put$1 ,600 in an investment that a guy is telling you, oh, we're going to do so well. And in the opening weekend where most of the money is made, you make$80.

5:54Not$80 on your$1 ,600. The$80 back of the$1 ,600 that you invested. That's what happened on opening weekend. It's not a good place to be. Then a couple other stories I have here as well is how a son views his father at age 5, 10, 15, 20, 30, 40, and how it ends at the end. The relationship between a father and son. I want to share that with you. And then Putin tells Russian troops to abandon every standard for war that we have. Abandon it. Forget about it because of what Ukraine just did. Ukraine makes claims that it forced 250 Russian soldiers to surrender in a daring operation. Can you imagine to get 250 Russian soldiers to, you know, surrender?

6:45And you're publicly telling this to the world. Imagine how Putin feels. Why? And that story makes it back to Russia. You're not going to be too happy about that. But that's the other story we'll get into. And then a couple last stories we got. France, you know, all the, what do you call it, rights that's going on there. It's a little messy. Disney's layoffs. Disney's president comes out and says we have to lay off. It's extremely painful but necessary. I wonder why you had to do it. And then last but not least, first time in history, Besant says, that Iran no longer has oil revenue coming in. First time in history, Besant is saying Iran doesn't have any revenue coming in right now from oil.

7:25And when Besant talks, Besant doesn't mess around. Besson's not a rage-baiting guy. Besson's not trying to play strategy with you. He's not trying to play the power plays. Trump gets those games. Besson doesn't play games. Besson's the guy, when he says that's happening, that's happening. And people better recognize when Besson's saying certain things. And to the Republican Party, there's a lot of things that are out there. There's four types of voters I want to tell you about today. Four types of voters. And the Republican Party is making mistakes because they're getting a lot of third type of voters.

7:56And the third type of voters sometimes are the worst type of voters to get, and I'll tell you about it today. Hopefully we'll get into it. With that being said, got some news for you guys. Obviously with these loafers that we have that, you know, in the market right now, anybody and everybody that's buying them, wearing them, the reviews are unbelievable. If you haven't yet picked one up for yourself or your spouse, your husband, or your son, these are the most comfortable loafers you'll wear at a very reasonable price, made in the same facilities that they sell them for$800 to$2 ,000. Ours are$250.

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10:27All-time score in the World Cup. Nike loses Mbappe to On Cloud. Not to Puma, not to Adidas, but to On Cloud. How does Nike lose the biggest soccer star today to On Cloud? And you see how Nike's shares in China, quarter after quarter after quarter, has dropped. Greater China revenue dropped 22 % reported, 26 % currency neutral in the last quarter alone. And by the way, nine quarters in a row, which is a little over two years, Nike has lost their revenue in China nine quarters in a row. Nike lost ground to faster moving competitors like Enclat, Adidas, Hoka, and others. At the same time, we talked about this last time, Tom, the fact that they're wholesalers.

11:14They started becoming competitive with their wholesalers. Before they would sell it to old wholesalers. Now Nike got cocky and said, we don't need wholesalers anymore. We can sell it on our own. Don't worry about it. You guys are lucky. And they're like, wait a minute. What are you talking about? You're cutting us. We've been the wholesaler for you. They cut them through. And then their digital is shrinking. Nike Direct fell 8%. Nike Brand Digital fell 13 % for fiscal 2026. The Jordan brand and sportswear business has also weakened. I'm sure Michael's not too happy about that. revenue growth has basically disappeared.

11:45Fiscal 2026 revenue was only$46.4 billion, flat reported, and down 2 % currency neutral. Turnaround has taken much longer than Wall Street. Hoped Elliott Hill return as CEO in 2024 and has made some changes, but nothing that's crazy right now. So, Tom, when you're looking at what's going on with them, by the way, let me give you some market cap numbers. At the end of 2021, Vinny, Nike's market cap was$264 billion. Jeez. Okay? $264 billion. You know what their market cap is today? $150 billion. I don't know if you heard what I just said. That's like you have$262 ,000 in a bank that's down to$50 ,000 in your mutual fund.

12:28Oh, wow. That's like you went from having$2.6 million in your 401k. It's down to$50 ,000. down to half a million dollars from 260 billion to 50 billion. Tom, what happened with Nike? So here's what happened with Nike. Nike did three things to itself. First of all, it decided that what it was seeing and all the direct-to-consumer stuff, it was going to go after. It goes after direct-to-consumer. And it did so on logic. And the logic was this. Malls are having more trouble with foot traffic. We've all read about malls. Of course. Right, right. And so Nike was sitting. Remember, they're not dumb.

13:05They just made what turns out to be a bad decision. They're in the boardroom and saying, how hard should we bet on Foot Locker with all this mall stuff going away? Should we protect? Should we sell direct to consumer? Well, they had some strategic decisions to make, therefore, about distribution, but they fumbled it. They pissed people off. They didn't do it moderate. I don't think they looked at data hard enough. I think they're more emotional about it, basically what I've seen. And by the way, Elliot Hill wasn't there. Elliot Hill, you know, was the CEO that got brought back after being gone for two years.

13:36Right. He came out of retirement two years ago in 24. And so they're like, hey, who else came out of retirement? Major U.S. brand, major market cap problem. Disney. Howard Schultz came out of retirement Starbucks. But then they went off and got Brian Nickel and guess what? It's shifting, it's turning. The guy comes out of retirement. Howard says we got to fix this at Starbucks and we need a guy to drive it. They go get Brian Nickel and look at what they are. They're turning it around. So first they have a distribution. The second thing they have was product. Product was getting kind of long in the tooth and they completely missed.

14:12Did you know that the guys that created the OnCloud Foot brought their foam and they took a garden hose and they cut three segments and stuck it in there to make those openings that you see in the on cloud. Do you know who they brought that to? Nike. You know what Nike said? No, thanks. We're good. We're doing our own things with AirFlight and foam and everything. We don't need it. So they do that. So they missed it. So what happens is Nike kind of has missed some of the innovation and stuff that was coming. and they've been relying on Air Jordan, which isn't a bad thing to rely on, by the way.

14:49No, of course. It's done well. And then they started getting into all of their retro shoes and helping the sneaker heads. Like, you know, the Air Max 95, any color, any way. And you have the Air Max 95 half sole, full sole. They have product that's kind of long in the tooth, and it didn't really take off. There's Air Max's right there. You know, I had pairs of those gray ones right there. Yep. Yep. Great, great, great, great shoe. So the second was distribution. And then the third was they ran into the audience. They ran straight into the audience. And what they did, the audience wasn't ready for all the Nike stuff.

15:27They should have taken advice from Michael Jordan. Republicans buy sneakers, too. and they went headlong into the Nike thing. It got really, really weird. And you know what? People didn't like it. Core people didn't. And they didn't like it at a time when alternatives were showing up in the market. All of that has come now to put them in position. And then Mbappe, as Pat already covered, says, you know, what brand do I want to bet on? A brand that's going to grow. And OnCloud or OnTechnology gave Mbappe the same pitch. I went and looked it up. Remember Nike? We'll build it around you. You won't be just another guy at Converse, and you won't be a person at Adidas waiting for them to decide.

16:12You will be you, and we will build this around you. And you remember the movie Air and that Hollywood glamorized it a little bit? But one thing was truth. Sonny Bakaro and them sold it. And so now, On just sold the same thing to Mbappe. Nike is yesterday. We are cruising. We are growing the future. And Tom, I want to ask you a question. Is there an opportunity for them to get out of this, number one? And then number two, is this a time when the stock is low to buy? And let's not forget, these guys embraced how many controversial from Dylan Mulvaney to Colin Kaepernick to all that stuff, and they forgot about their core customer base, Tom, okay?

16:51Now they're cutting other jobs. They're doing all this restructuring. They have to return to sports and athletes, okay? The formula, like, I still am shocked. This is one of the brands where you're like, there's no way, Pat, that this is going to go down. I'm going to tell you this, though. Last week was my last day with PHP agencies. September 30th, I wrote my letter of resignation. We had agreed. Nothing bad. It's just we already knew that a year in advance that this day was coming. It was an automatic resignation, not like where the non-compete starts on that day. And not that I'm trying to get back into space at all.

17:25But I wrote a long email. When I tell you a long email, like one of those emails where only the people that are involved in it, I got a lot of messages, a lot of calls from some people who were calling me and telling me, hey, you know, I was emotional with this thing and I was emotional with that thing. But I talked about the threats and things to be careful with. So you're asking a very good question. So I remember interviewing a guy that they wanted to hire as the potential CEO of the company. And I asked him, I said, in the interview, I said, what do you think about capitalism? Well, you know, it's got some good and it's got some bad and it's got some this.

18:02And what do you think about this? And what do you think about that? And I'm like, I don't know if it's going to work. And I told the guys, I don't think it's going to work out or not. Why is that? We have a very strong culture. So if you come in and you don't speak that culture, you're going to lose some of our best guys in the company. Because culture is what kept people here. So who approved these hires? And how much control did you lose in hires to believe two of the greatest brands America's ever produced, Nike and Disney, made the same exact mistakes? What made you believe it's okay for them to go talk like this?

18:38Was it ESG? Was it too much DEI? Who were you trying to win over? You were trying to win over Colin Kaepernick? Who were you trying to win over? Dylan Mulvaney? Who? You know what OnCloud did? They went and hired somebody called Thierry Henry, who is one of the greatest players of all time in soccer. You know, you've always seen the video with him and Ronaldo and him and Zlatan did a great job with commentary. They brought him. So guess how sequencing works? On cloud says, who does Mbappe admire? Mbappe admires Thierry Henry. So they went and brought him and then he went and recruited who? Mbappe.

19:15Where is Thierry Henry from? Who did he play for? Where is Mbappe from? So it's a very good strategic move that they made. So, hey, if we want Mbappe, who do we get first? Sequencing. I think sometimes in businesses you think your customers are going to be there forever because you won them once. Are you going to win them over? No. In business, there's this concept that we always talk about is you have to re-engage with your customers. You have to re-recruit your people. You have to re-sell them the dream. You have to re-ignite your consumer base. You have to re-excite, re-enthute everything. You're in the re-game.

19:50So guess what? If you don't like the re-game, sell and leave. But if you want to stay in business and compete, guess what you need to do? You need to re-earn everyone's business over and over and over again. And Nike screwed up. They thought they're going to have the customers forever. They thought the retailers owed them shelf life forever. They thought the China thing was like, oh, printing money. China's going to be with us forever. They don't realize China sells your products first, copies your products, and gets rid of you and then starts selling it, their own products. They thought they were going to have the Jordan brand forever and it was going to be a blue chip stuff.

20:22They thought these players were always going to come to Nike and not go other places. And it's a mistake that you see happen regularly over and over again across the board with every industry. Adam, final thoughts before we move to the next. Yeah, there's a lot to say. You know, in sports, you have hills and mountains that you have to climb. Like, look at the Lakers for an example. So in the 80s, the Lakers were the best team on the planet. them in the Celtics. Then they had, I don't want to upset you, Pat, 10 years of absolute nothingness. And then they had to reinvent themselves. Cedric Sabalas, Tony Smith, Cedell Treat, Nick Bennington, Elvin Campbell.

20:55Not that bueno. Then they got Shaq and Kobe, and then they went on a run again. And then 10 years of nothingness, and then Kobe got Pau Gasol. The point is that the Lakers were the best, then they kind of sucked, and they became the best again. They had to reinvent themselves. You think that's going to happen to Nike again? I'm just saying, at the end of the day, you're going to have to reinvent yourself. They've had this magical 40-year run. Here's the question for you. Do you think going woke is a permanent loss of one year, two years of customers? Do you think it's a decade or do you think it's a 20-year mistake?

21:23Honestly, once your brand loses its reputation, I don't know how long it's going to take to get back. Maybe never. Are you understanding the question I'm asking? I'm asking a question, Tom, because sometimes you make a mistake and you ask yourself, is that a one-month, three-month mistake setback? Is that a three, 12 months or is that permanent? Let me give you an example. Go ahead. Colin Kaepernick. When you think of Colin Kaepernick, what do you think of? Kneeling. Victimhood. Sure. Kneeling, not respecting the flag. Who embraced them wholeheartedly? Nike did. I think of Nike. $40 million. So to me, when I think of Nike, I don't longer just think of MJ.

21:57They had the best athletes in the world. MJ, Kobe, Serena, Tiger. Now I think of Nike, I think of Colin Kaepernick, and they're trying to reinvent themselves with the WNBA. Kaitlin Clark, Asia Wilson, Sabrina Inesco. I can't believe I even know all these names. Where's the big name? I guess here's my number one question. Where's the next MJ? You didn't answer my question. You didn't answer the question. The question is how long is this last? I did answer the question. I said it could potentially be forever. It's not a one or two year thing. So to me, there are certain mistakes that you make that are fatal and never comes back.

22:35And sometimes when you make those mistakes, there are customers that every business owner is willing to lose. Because if you're if you're if you're if you're if you get to a point where you're like, well, like imagine if we said, do we really want to lose the socialist listenership to the podcast? Yeah. Think about what I just said right now. Yeah. Do we really do we not want to have the communists listen to our podcast? OK, do we not want to have these guys that are sympathizers of terrorists listen to our we want those guys, don't we want? No, sometimes. No, we're good. But there's a difference between messaging.

23:07We're in a different business. We're giving opinion. We're in a business of opinion, right? We're giving our opinion. This business is not the business of opinion. This isn't a business of just do it. This isn't a business of eliminating excuses. They got into the opinion business. Once they got into the opinion business, you permanently lose some of those people. Exactly. It's very simple. So that's what could happen here. Tom said Republicans buy sneakers too. Let me get to the next story. Unfortunately, go woke, go broke. I'm going to get to the next story. Next thing I want to get into is what happened with AI spies that are getting into open AI and Anthropic.

23:38And this goes with a conversation I had last week with Jacob Cox and the Anthropic whistleblower that came out and said, hey, you know, Tesla cannot have any Chinese nationals work there. But Anthropic and open AI can. And I started thinking, what do you mean by that? This interview drops tomorrow. So watch what happens a couple of those a couple of days later in a story. A couple of days later, OpenAI fires three safety researchers accused of sharing confidential company information. What? Three researchers have been fired from OpenAI after allegedly sharing confidential company information with a third-party AI safety organization.

24:10Sources told Wall Street Journal, the three worked on the company's safety team. We have parted ways with three individuals for violating our policies on accessing and handling sensitive company information. and OpenAI spokesperson said, our investigation confirmed that these individuals mishandled sensitive information outside established company procedures, violating our policies and breaking the trust essential to our work. The firing came as OpenAI and other major AI companies have disclosed incidents involved AI models engaging in unexpected behavior or autonomously accessing other company systems.

24:46OpenAI has outlined three, six instances of what it's called misaligned behavior, You're including models, creating self-generated instructions, concealing mistakes in task summaries, fabricating information using exposed AI keys, and engaging in unsanctioned communication between agents. OpenAI safety leaders also decided not to release its new AI model, GPT 6.1 Astra, due to safety concerns for anything regarding safety and alignment. There's a tradeoff. OpenAI's head of safety system said the model didn't quite meet the bar. So, Tom, how much more of these types of stories do you think we're going to be hearing moving forward?

25:23We're going to hear a lot of them, and I'll tell you why we're going to hear a lot of them. Because in related news, just two days before that, they say, Anthropic says, hey, we're looking at an IPO the week of November 9th. As early as the week of November 9th, as long as we can get coverage at$2 trillion in valuation. So why are they saying both of these things at the same time? And remember, they put the S1 was a confidential S1 that they put to SEC.gov. So we can't go look at it the way we could go to SEC.gov and we could read the S1s for companies that are going public. We can't. Well, Anthropic says, no, no, no.

26:03We think we could go out as early as November 9th,$2 trillion valuation. Well, if that's what they're trying to do, then they have to clear the deck, Pat, of all this PR. And so what better way to clear the deck of the PR? I know we came out and said we worried about this. I know we were talking about, you know, hugging face. I know we were talking about this. We fired three of the bastards. Ha ha, we're taking action. I think it's that. I think they're trying to, I'm being a little dramatic, but I think what they're really trying to say is, hey, we take safety seriously. This is a way of saying we're responsible.

26:35It's not like anything crazy happened. It's for investors to say, oh, wow, look how responsible OpenAI is. Correct. and to pull back any congressional, here's a bad word, hearings that might be going on when you're trying to go to Wall Street because you can't do both. People are going to say, wait, wait, wait, we're not going public if you're in the middle of congressional hearings or going for 60 days on AI safety. Sorry, dude, you're not going to do that. No one will let them. The SEC will come out and say, stop. We're investigating all these safety things. You're not going out. Remember, the SEC has to allow it.

27:06So I think it's both. I think they're trying to look responsible, as you say. You know that friend you only call when you need something? HomeServe's here for you. Got a burst pipe, HVAC outage, or electrical issue? HomeServe has your back for regular use, where basic homeowners insurance typically won't help. With a protection plan from HomeServe in place before disaster strikes, just call us. We'll send a qualified contractor and help you avoid unexpected expenses. Maybe we're the last ones you want to call, but we're happy to hear from you. Go to homeserve.com slash audio for 50 % less your first year.

27:39Savings compared to renewal price point in Florida. Adam, where are you at with this one? Look, I haven't followed this exact story, but this isn't like this one person they fired, three people they fired. I wonder what's the basis of the story. Were they working together, these three of these people, Tom? Were they independent? I'm trying to go deeper on this story, but then I have an overall. Well, let me do this while you're thinking that. I didn't see bio. Let me go into this. So what I'm concerned about is the following. I want to know how often this has happened with Chinese nationals because you have to, like.

28:12Were these all Chinese nationals? What does it mean? No, not necessarily. What does it mean when people are sharing sensitive information? What does that mean? It's espionage. So, and who are you sharing it with? We didn't really know who they're sharing it with. Like, where did it go? When I go and I think about things that concern me, here's what I think about. There's a few different people. So think about Google. A person named Lin Wei Leon Ding at Google, a PRC national in Google AI engineers, prosecutors said he stole more than 2 ,000 pages of confidential AI material involving Google's TPU, GPU, supercomputing infrastructure while secretly affiliated with two China-based AI companies.

28:56So in January 2026, he was convicted on seven counts of economic espionage and seven counts of trade secret theft for the benefit of the PRC. Can you look up this name, please? Lin Wei Ding, Google. L-I-N-W-E-I, then D-I-N-G, Google. Yeah, this one right here. This just happened, just so you know. This just happened a few months ago. You got another one with Apple. Xialong Zhang. Obviously, you don't have to ask if these guys are from Afghanistan or U.S. or Brazil. It's very obvious. Former Apple self-driving car engineer. He was accused of downloading autonomous driving trade secrets before planning to work for Chinese EV company, Japang, and arrested while trying to board a flight to China.

29:44He later pleaded guilty to trade secret theft. By the way, just so you know, and this is recent. Then I'll give you another one. Wei Bao Wang. Where do you think he's from? I'll let you guess. I'm going to keep going. From the Wu-Tang. Wu-Tang. South Central. Former Apple autonomous system engineer. Prosecutors allege he took Apple source code and technical material after accepting a job. You're going to see where I'm going with this, where my concern is. I'm starting to light up. A job with the U.S. subsidiary of a PRC headquartered autonomous driving company. Okay? By the way, you know who got involved in this?

30:14The FBI got involved in this. Of course they did. This remains an allegation, not a conviction with this one. Hao Zhang. Where do you think that guy is from? Skyworks, a PRC citizen who worked at Skyworks, prosecutors proved he and collaborators stole wireless semiconductor trade secrets and used them to build a competing operation tied to Tian University. And DOJ described an instrumental as an instrumental of Chinese government. He was convicted of economic espionage and trade secret theft. I'll give you one other one here. Weipeng, Avago Technologies, another PRC. By the way, there's two Weipeng apparently.

30:52Weipang. Two Weipangs. DOJ alleged that he and Cenk took FBAR semiconductor technology and shared it with conspirators. Again, a China-based venture. He was charging the same economic espionage. Okay. So, you know, some of the people on MAGA or Republicans that are not happy with Trump in what area? The one area where he's like, yeah, we want to have 600 ,000 Chinese students come here and go to our universities. And China would love for that to happen. Why would they love to happen? You think they're just coming here to learn our stuff and take you back to China? Or do you think those people that are coming here are true believers of China?

31:27They want to come and get the intel, see what we're doing, move into our companies. You have to be very, very careful with how China runs. The U.S. model is you have two terms when you become president. You come in. If you're doing a good job, you get reelected. If not, sometimes you win. Second time, the other side cheats. Then you come back in. Sometimes these types of things happen, right? But if you think for a second, China's not thinking long term of coming in and stealing what we have and sending it back to them, their loyalty is not to U.S. Their loyalty is back to China. They're not in America because they love America and they love the company they're working for.

32:04They're here to share the intel back with them. So my concern is, do you make a law in America that Chinese nationals cannot work for these AI companies? Is it the law that does it or is this the company itself that has to do this? But you can't wait for the company because the company is going to want to engineer. So part of this goes into, do you talk H-1B visa? Do you go into a lot of Indians are coming here? And J.D. Vance just kind of talked about this recently. I don't know if you saw that over the weekend. These are true, real concerns that people are thinking about. You know, one of the things you taught me, you said, listen, here's how I do business.

32:40You said, I hire slow, but I fire fast. So to me, I mean, would you break that down? There's a very strict vetting process if you're going to let somebody into your world. Why don't American companies operate like that, especially in the light of this China situation or whoever these safety researchers are? You just read how many Chinese names that did this? I mean, I feel like the vetting process needs to be completely profound in this situation. How would you go about this as a publicly traded company, let's say, or even private company? So remember, not everything is a deal. Not everything is about making deals.

33:17The president is a deal maker, right? There are some things that there are no deals. It's not on the table. We're not even, you give me, like today, this morning, I'm talking to one of our guys, Dan, 18 Delta, and we're driving, we're having a conversation about what happened to France. I said, let me ask you a question. If you had a choice between being a billionaire or having been in Delta Force for 10 years, which one do you choose? He says, it's not even close. I said, what do you mean? He says, oh, it's not even close. I would choose Delta. Really? Oh, he says it's not. So you see, that's core values to this human being.

33:52I respect that because money can't buy the dream that he had in place. There are certain things in America that should not be for sale to anybody. And this is one of those things that shouldn't be for sale. For no matter how much money you want to give me, something shouldn't be for sale. It's like how many social media platforms that are American-owned are based in China? None. None. But how many are here? Exactly. So, you know, it's kind of like the rules of the road. There's a binary situation going on here. How many American workers are working in China right now? Very few, probably. Very, very few.

34:28And if you don't think that they have the phones to happen. Some guy named Rick just working at Huawei? I want to see what Tom's going to say about this. Tom, what would you say about this? So take a look at this graphic. I don't know if the audience can see this. This is the self-reforcing visa wheel. Now, why does it happen? A H-1B visa holder, your spouse is allowed to get an H-4. If your spouse has an H-4, then they could form an LLC, and they form staffing firms. The staffing firms reach out and help other people get H-1Bs. Why is this happening? Because we've created a market for it. Why do we create a market for it?

34:59Because is California liberal or conservative? Not even close. The people that are running technology companies, are they largely liberal or conservative? Liberal. Liberal. They're in favor of bringing foreign workers over. And by the way, at the end of it, they may be liberal, but they sure as hell are capitalists because they want lower cost engineers. And they bring over tons of lower cost engineers through this process. I'm not okay with that. This shouldn't be fulfilled. This is, Pat, this is the problem. But this is mostly from India, though, correct? More H-1B, I think, of India. India is a lot of it, but you are also seeing it from mainland China and you're seeing it with spies.

35:35And China is even more sophisticated. They don't want to go through the more visible H-1B. They talk our president into what? Allowing the students to come over to the college. Both have to stop. America cannot be first. Why would Trump want 600 ,000 students coming from China? What's the methodology with that? I'm not in the room. I didn't become a president. So let me just start with that preface. So whatever I say, he can do whatever he wants to do. He became the president. I'm not the president. If I became president, maybe I would have done a different way. But again, I don't have access to all the information.

36:08You just have to realize, when you go to a negotiation, not everything's on the table. Like, you asked me a question about relationship earlier, we're not going to talk publicly. It's not on the table. We're not negotiating this. In certain things in life, we're dictators. As a parent, not everything's negotiable with the kids. There are moments where Perrin must be a dictator. To allow these guys to come and steal our stuff and even think that they're going to be loyal to us, it's a numbers game. Say you've got 500 of them. How many Chinese nationals do you need to be 100 % loyal to China to share our information with them?

36:49One out of 500. You don't need all of them. So it's like, well, it's not all of them. It goes back to the same argument with, you know, not all Muslims are, you know, but hey, 1 % is a lot. Half a percent is a lot. A billion out of two billion. So to me, this is the part when sometimes Israel comes here, Adam, and I have a problem with this. This is the part that for me, I'm not the guy that's part of, oh, my God, everything, something happens, it's Israel's fault. I'm not part of that camp. But I tell you, if you're in the U.S. and you serve the IDF more than you serve the U.S., I question your loyalty.

37:21You know what's the only bottom two religions that don't join the U.S. Army? It's Jews and Muslims. Why not? What's your loyalty to? I'm a Christian. I serve the military here. So it concerns me when your loyalty is to a different country. I don't play those games. Right, sure. And I'm not the conspiracy jumping all this other stuff. I think there needs to be a certain level of, no, if you are this, you can't work here. We're not sharing this technology with you at all. This is not a regular thing to collaborate with and cooperate with. just because you want to get these other three deals done because everyone's going to say it's impossible, but the ramifications of this deal we're not going to see for 20 years when we have three other presidents now.

38:07I think it's, like I said to you, I want to preface everything. I'm not the president. I didn't win an election. I'm not in Durham. I don't have access to all the information. I'm just giving you my opinion. This makes me uncomfortable. It's that simple for me. It makes me very uncomfortable. Did you hear what happened, like, last night? What's that? What's her name? Jin Feng Zhang? She was arrested at LAX. she's accused of working for the Chinese government spying on Taiwan's son his wife, his kids taking pictures of his carpet why would you be sending that back to China so they have leverage if God forbid something happens we got your son we got your wife remember during Biden remember all those videos Tommy you actually sent me the video all these Chinese nationals bringing them into the border none of them spoke English besides a terrorist guy dressed much differently than a lot of people that you could see We're Mexican refugees.

38:57Absolutely. Coming from northern provinces. You know this H-1B visa thing that Tom just posted? Yeah. You know, 73 % of the H-1B visas are from India. 12 % are from China. Right. You just have to also know when people are bringing these concerns. But let's be super clear. Are we more worried about what's going on in India or with China? By the way, I'm worried about both. Sir, sure. But what's more of a worry? I'll give you my answer. And it's China. It's not even a question. In the next five to ten years. in the next five to ten years, it's China. Don't get it twisted. India doesn't think low of themselves.

39:33They think very highly of themselves. By the way, they should. They're the most populated country in the world. They're the biggest democracy in the world. And we have a decent relationship with India. We are rivals with China. To me, it's different levels of competition. You cannot sit there and just think about crisis today. We built China into a behemoth because of what Nixon did. China's a nobody without what America did for them and opened it up China's a nobody without what Japan told them on what to do with the banks and opening up all these banks instead of just having two national banks and you're not lending money so to me we built a monster and now that monster who used to be hi how are you oh very yes oh yeah we're so polite behind closers we're going to eat these people alive they don't even know we're going to crush them only the paranoid survive baby and so you know my paranoia is to protect the greatest country in the world and that's america it's that simple and if you have those philosophies and ideology it's what i'm going to be doing doesn't mean i'm not in the room negotiating with you it doesn't mean i'm not in the room talking but there are certain things that should not be for sale this is one of them would you completely limit h1b's no no no i'll tell you what i would do i'll tell you what i do answer the question and then i'm gonna come to you would you completely eliminate h1b's from china so so to me the way i I see this, Adam, is say you take companies that have direct impact or maybe they're partners of America, the U.S.

41:00government, that have access to information. So let me explain. So let's just say an anthropic. Let's just say Palantir. Let's just say whoever these companies are that are working as a partner to the U.S. government that get access to certain information that is very highly intellectual property to us. Like a public-private partnership. Yes. That goes pretty deep. If I have things like that, not one single Chinese national can be working on that project. I'm with you. Not one. I'm with you. If you're working at Nike and you're working at certain tiers, like, let me put it to you this way. There's security.

41:34There's a certain level of secret clearance in what you're doing. Dude, there is limits of where you're going with a certain industry. I'm not even letting you compete with that. Is your concern, would you do that same thing with India or just with China? I would do that with them as well. Really? Again. Would you do that with every country? By the way, do you know where Hindus lie in joining the U.S. military? Can you do me a favor? Can you do me a favor and ask a simple question? What religions or what's the way to ask it? What immigrants that came to America, or ask the question two different ways.

42:12What immigrants that come to America joined the military the highest? You know, we did this research before, so I know you have it, Conor. I know you're in the back looking at this. You handed me this research. So it came from you. Join the U.S. military. Why is that important to me? Always pay attention when people say the following. I would never let my kids join the U.S. military. When people say that, there are people that say this on social media, if you haven't heard them already. That is one of the scariest things somebody says who lives in America. You know what you're saying? What are you saying?

42:44Oh, I'm sorry. Where does patriotism come from? What is the ultimate way of showing patriotism? Serving. Okay. So now don't get me wrong. You can be a soldier in the military under a Democrat or Republican or you can do all that other stuff and not be happy with the president like you weren't happy with Bush or some people were not happy with all this other stuff. But the question becomes there needs to be patriotism. I watch, you know who's number one, by the way, that joins the military? I think it's Presbyterian. Is it non-denominational Presbyterians? I think Catholics are number two. Do you find it?

43:15Can you zoom in, please? Yeah, watch this. This is it. Yeah, zoom in a little bit. Look at this. Protestants are number one biggest percentage of those that joined the military you know what's the lowest one after Jewish Hindu that's where I was getting to you see the.04 % Jews are above them by.03 % to.07 look at where Muslims are at .15 then it's Buddhist and guess where those four people are from so your loyalty isn't to America why don't you join the US Army the US Navy the US Marines I have a problem with that so I look at you and I say you claim you're a patriot I am tell your kid to join the military no I don't want to you're not a patriot you're just here to take advantage of the opportunity so when you're telling me am I also concerned with Indians I am simply because of this data contribute to society what do you think the parents are telling their kids don't do it and by the way keep this in mind I'm not telling you well they're like well you know you raise your kids the wrong way We tell our kids to go be engineers, doctors, and this.

44:19I respect that. I think the style of Indian parenting, I've done a video on them to compliment them on how great they are with discipline and challenging them and pushing them. You know that one book called Tiger Mom or something like that that blew up so millions of copies? It's a Chinese book. It's like how hard mothers are. And shout out to Mario's mom. I think Mario needs to write a book about his mom. Those stories would blow up. It's a very different story. Lester Molester. But those are different kind of things we're talking about. But I would consider China an enemy or a competitor. I would not consider India a competitor.

44:50I would consider Israel an ally. There's different levels to this thing. My level of paranoia for China is at a 90. My level of paranoia for India is at a 40. And my level of Israel not encouraging their folks to join the military here is at a 15. I judge you. I'm with you exactly. Join the flipping military. Encourage your kids to join and serve in any possible way. It's more about just giving back to your country. It's not so much just joining the military. You can show your patriotism by not joining the military. That's not the only qualification of how you can show your patriotism. Why don't you, though?

45:25Why don't Hindus join the military at all? I don't know. I don't know the answer to that. I didn't join the military. That doesn't make me less patriotic. I went to college. I played football. But I get it. But I'm sorry, Adam. Jews go join the IDF very high percentage. They have to. What do you mean they have to? why do they well it's in in israel it's mandatory why why do they though ask i don't know i don't know i didn't do that either so ask that it's called patriotism towards their country yeah and i have a problem with that i have a problem with hindus buddhists and jews who don't want to join the u.s military i'm sorry i'm a freaking middle that doesn't make that doesn't make people less patriotic they don't sign it is a there's two different things going on i believe look i'm not making friends today trust me again by me saying this i'm not making friends but i'm talking about with the audience watching this.

46:12I'm saying this to tell you, there are certain things I don't compromise. America has to realize the future of war is going to be very, very different. Very, very different. We don't just want our brilliant folks to go join Anthropic Open AI. We also want our brilliant folks to go join the CIA. We want our brilliant folks to go join the FBI. We want our brilliant folks to go join the military. We need MI in the military. God knows we need a lot of it right now because shit's getting real. So this isn't a, a parent needs to be able to say, I got a smart kid. Hey, let me tell you, you go in the military, go MI, move up, go CIA, go FBI, go do something that you're contributing to your country to protect because the enemy is trying to take this away from us.

46:51So I don't want to stay on this story too long. I want to go. It wasn't even in my plans of going this direction, but I think this can, by the way, and this is a good time for me to go and segue into the four types of voters. Okay. You know what the four types of voters I think there are? Here's the four types of voters, my opinion. So, and this goes to Republicans and Democrats. You know what one type of voter is? The one that you piss off and they choose to vote the other way. What percentage of Republicans do you think are going to vote Democrat? Very few. I know. But what do you think it is?

47:223%. I think it's less than that. I think it's 1%. What percentage do you think will vote independent or libertarian? What percentage of Republicans are going to vote? I'm so sick of it. I'm so this. Are you seeing a candidate? Registered Republicans? Registered Republicans. I think there's probably 5%, and they were probably very few. Recent Republicans that go back to the independent. So there were independents that came that will go back because they're pissed off with certain things. You know what's the second type of voter you have? The one that sits it out. He's like, you know what? I'm not even going to vote in Florida.

47:52Not excited about what you guys did. I'm not even going to vote in Ohio. I'm not even going to vote for this. And the president's even saying, I want you to go vote as if I'm on the ballot. It's not going to work. That's not how voting works. He said that in Ohio to help out with Vivek and saying, hey, go out there and vote as if it's me. They even brought John Gruden, and John Gruden looked like he was ready to go back and coach. And he almost dropped a chubby kid that just did Deadway. That's Vivek. That's Vivek, which I'm saying doesn't help. Gruden would be able to hang. I love Chucky. Yeah.

48:17And then you know what the third type of voter is? The type that's the down the, what do you call it? Down the ballot. Down the ballot voter. Just voting R or voting D down the ballot. Exactly. You know what the fourth type of voter is? The type of voter that wants to tell the world how excited they are to vote for you. How many do we have right now? Let me say that one more time. If you want to crush the enemy, you need the fourth type of voters to come out. And Republicans don't have that right now. Republicans don't have that level of mentality. I agree with you. Tell me the dream on who. Give me a candidate right now.

48:47The Republicans are excited about going out and telling the world about it. Go ahead. Show me how they're door knocking. None. Show me how they're going campaigning. Yeah, they had that in 2024 when Trump was making a comeback. Of course they do. Right now, that is— Yeah, that's Trump. Yeah, there's definitely a lack of energy in the base. in my opinion, and I'll be to say it in 10 seconds, I'm energetic about stopping the left. That's what gets me fired up. You might have a different philosophy. I'm not waking up being like, let's go, America. I'm like, the left is coming. This Islamist, Marxist, ridiculous red-green alliance, that needs to be stopped.

49:21That's what galvanizes me. That's why we do the podcast. That's why we started this company. We started this company because we truly believe there's a real enemy, a long term, that's trying to confuse our kids. And as someone that used to be a Democrat, I look at that and say, that is no longer the Democratic Party. That needs to be stopped. But if I was running the Republican Party, if I was running the Democratic Party, that's not enough. Exactly. They tried to run against Trump being a bad man and they lost to him twice. Once with Clinton, the other time with Kamala. And so they lost. Why?

49:52You have to be for something where you get the base excited. They got people pissed off. You need more than just being pissed off. Because you need products. You need candidates that are products that someone's excited about. So, Adam, I can have a terrible headache, but am I going to take Tylenol or am I going to take Advil? There's a brand relationship I have, and there's an enthusiasm. Oh, my God, you have Tylenol. Thank you so much. And I want it. Now let's blow that up on an emotional level with your economy, your country, all the things we talk about. And guess what? There's no product on the shelf.

50:23Are people excited about Paxton? No. Are people really excited in Ohio about Vivek? No. And we like Vivek, but the primary system is supposed to put great products out there, but instead it becomes a manipulated system that gives entitlement and flows people in based on connection to the mega donors and the PACs. It's because they want to get their stuff done. And so we don't have product right now. I think it's that simple. We don't have exciting product to go against an enemy that is so clear. Socialism and all this. Who's it on? Who's it on, though? Who's it on? That is on the party leadership.

50:58It's on two people, Tom. Who's it on? My opinion. That the Republicans don't have a person to lead? Who's it on? It's two people. Donald Trump. Of course. And then the other part is who? Whoever the RNC is. Exactly. That's who it's on. Just so you know. Who's running the RNC right now, by the way? The fact that you're asking is an issue. Because it was Laura Trump for a minute. It was Romney's girl for a minute. Who is it now? The fact that you're asking. Can we pull that up again? Remember when Vivek in Miami called her out? Yeah. Come out on stage. Rhonda. Rhonda. McDaniel or her? Help me, Rhonda.

51:30Was it Ronda or Ronna? Ronna, yeah. Ronna McDaniel. Ronna McDaniel. Not Pete. But that was four years ago. Who is it now? By the way, go back to that Calci, please. Go back to that Calci. But that's the point. Okay, look at this. Look at this. Ohio governor winner. Look, Amy Acton's now at 65. Vivek is officially at 35. Okay? And this is after Trump's shown up to help out. After Trump's shown up to help out. And then go to the Texas Senate winner. Look at this one here. Tallarico up to 65. Calci, Paxton, 35. And look how much been in bed here. $18.9 million. What's the other one? $19 million. What's the other one?

52:08$2 million. So you got these two big races that they're looking at right now with Calci. Is Calci taking polling odds and then using that to manufacture their own numbers? Because I don't trust the actual poll. Calci doesn't manufacture anything. These are people like you and me that say, you know what? It may only be 5 % in the polls, but I think this one's going to win. So they're doing it in place on what people are doing? My trust today is more on Calci than all the other polls that you read about by CNN and Fox and all these other things. I remember what I used to say about Vegas. I trust Vegas more than I trust polls.

52:39Well, then that's valid. This is Vegas. People are telling you what they think is going to be happening, and you ought to pay attention to it. I'm not telling you this is the all, you know, but you have to pay attention to what's going on with this. But you need excitement. Right now there's not excitement, and Trump needs to be thinking about replacement. He needs to be thinking about replacement. I don't know how much of that will take place. Trump's personality is the type that to transition to the next, whoever takes that next has to edify him nonstop. And unfortunately, what eventually would end up happening to, you know, create your own identity.

53:16Some people have to burn a bridge with Trump. And when you do that, you know what's going to happen? It's going to be catastrophic for them. He's going to go after them in a hardcore way rather than realizing this is how the game works. And it's going to be challenging. It's going to be challenging with them. What percentage is this actually? Hey, it's just the midterms. Every four years, you know, they change powers, the balance of power. How much is actually the economy, things affecting average people? FYI, I'm going to go to the next story. If they address the Iran thing, if what Besson is saying right now, Okay, let me just go to that story.

53:53If what Besant is saying right now, that the first time, this is the first time in history Besant says Iran has zero oil revenue as tanker loading collapses. Okay? And this is coming from who? Tyler Durden from, you know, Fight Club. It's so funny. We know who the guy is behind us. Zero H. She does a great job. Those guys, they're phenomenal. Yeah. So this is the first time. Besson, on a new episode of Axios Show, if you want to pull this up, by the way, they are isolating them economically like this never before. Is this it? Please play the clip. Go for it. Watch this. Do you have it or no? Oh, he can stand like that for a long time.

54:37That's impressive. I'll just read what he says. They are isolating them economically like this never before. You know right now the score barrels out of the straight U.S. about 11 1.1 billion Iran zero go for it. Isolating them economically like this never happened before. Right now the score turns the barrels out of the straight U.S. about 1.1 billion Iran zero. For the first time in history since they started pumping oil they will have no oil on the water this week. they will have no revenues. You know that friend you only call when you need something? HomeServe's here for you. Got a burst pipe, HVAC outage, or electrical issue?

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55:59And U.S. is building a base at Karg Island, hypothetically. In the next 30 days? If I'm saying in the next announcement, not that they're going to build it. They announced they're building a military base in Poland, but it's going to take until 2030 to build. Well, that's a major statement you're making against who? Russia. and you're making for who? Ukraine, the EU, NATO, all that, right? Okay, if all of a sudden we get an announcement that U.S. has taken over Karg Island, Iran has agreed to not enrich uranium, Iran has agreed to not have any nuclear weapons, and X, Y, Z, if that announcement is made, gas prices drop, economy skyrockets, interest rates come down from 7.5 % today to 5.75 90 days before election time, Now you're talking a different story.

56:46You're talking 2028 or you're talking? I'm going 28 November. Yeah, because, I mean, everything's built. Midterm is, midterm is. We're 30 days out. Look, I mean, Charles Barkley was the other day on Chris Cuomo. I don't know if you have this clip or not. And he says, you know, a lot of people are thinking blue and Democrats are going to do this. I don't know about that. I don't know. He called that Kamala. He called that everybody. I don't know. He's saying some stupid. Yeah. Watch this. Go ahead. Listen, I'm an independent who's voted Democratic most of the time. You think that I'm going to get on TV and kill my credibility saying every Democratic?

57:16Like some of these people out here talking about no ICE, no prison, using words like socialism. Like, no, I don't believe in that. Wait, wait, no cops? I think that's some of the stupidest shit I've ever heard. It's true. What are we going to do without cops? What are we going to do without prisons? Like, I've seen some of these politicians, I'm like, this is the stupidest shit ever. And a lot of them, most of them, well, let me take a part, all of them have been Democrats. I think that's some of the stupidest shit I ever heard. Now, ICE has to do a much better job. Much better job. We need that, we need a...

57:58You can pause it right now. So, sensible guys like Bill Maher, okay? Barkley, some of these other guys are calling out the BS that's happening on that site. Midterms, whatever happens with midterms, it's not looking good for Republicans as of right now. Even with Trump going and campaigning. Even with Trump going and helping you out. But I will tell you, going into 28, if things all of a sudden change, Besant closes, politics is like this. Ready? Boom. They turn around like this. Like this? Switch. If you would have told me that in 2022, 2023, Trump was going to basically take over the party again, I'd say, no way.

58:382024 MAGA crown boom things can happen real quickly yeah well you know um that's that's the part with this game we're in this is a very very different game that we're talking what do you think of Barkley's uh political chances of doing something yeah doing something I think he would be very entertaining but I don't think he has any interest really you want you think Barkley running I think he would be very entertaining I think I think he's kind of over basketball at this point Just like Stephen A. I think he has a second half. How old is Barkley? Is he 63? Can you type in how old Barkley is? Charles Barkley.

59:10Yeah, there's going to be some wild cards like that that could run. How old is Barkley? 60, age, right there, go a little bit lower, right there to the bottom. 63. Yeah, he's 63 years old. Wow. February 20th. So he's an Aquarius. Interesting. Yeah. I mean, as of next month, it's less than two years, correct? Two years left until 2028. They have to do something, and it has to happen fast. Because that two years is going to go like this, okay? And Adam, the average American doesn't have the attitude of ours of, listen, regardless of the party, the Dems are just the enemy, and we have to vote. No, they need somebody to freaking make them move.

59:47Get me freaking, like you said, get excited. Because guess what the Democrats have? They got, right now, the socialist thing is on fire. The Mayor Mamdani is the freaking guy. Yeah, then our country is going to be on fire. But hear me out. But the average voter, Adam, doesn't think like us because we know the enemy because we sit here twice a week and we see all the numbers. We see all the stats. You've got to move them. And J.D. Vance, it's looking like he's going to be the guy. He ain't the guy. We could do a friendly bet. J.D. Vance is going to be the guy. Marco Rubio has said he's not going to do it, but hear me out, but let me finish my point.

1:00:19And if you see, Adam, I'm remembering all the moments where he's in those meetings, especially about Iran, and he was quietly distancing himself where the president was saying about J.D. Vance, he was unenthusiastic about this war which gives jd vance what he was talking about the moment to be like hey listen i love the president but i was the guy in these meetings saying no no no because at the end of the day adam the average american isn't thinking about the enemy which we are so you think what they're thinking of hold let me finish they're thinking of a war that they're they're feeling that they shouldn't have started they can't pay for gas they can't pay for groceries and they're like what the hell is going on so you just want my blind loyalty because of the enemy but the enemy's pitch now, Adam, to all these young voters is this.

1:00:59We'll give you all the free stuff, and whoever's attached to Trump is still evil because he's Hitler and his people are all little Hitlers. Do you think, Vinny, that if gas prices were normal again, let's say down to$3, let's just say the average American would even think twice about Iran? If gas prices were normal, would the average American even think about Iran? Absolutely not. I agree. Yeah, yeah. So it just has to do with gas prices. So it just goes to show you the Iran war is absolutely irrelevant to America. It's not costing the American taxpayer barely anything. No, the war made the gas.

1:01:33What I'm saying is the average person only cares about gas prices because of the war. But you're saying like, you know, you think anybody really cares about eating the cheesecake? All they care about is the fact that their blood pressure is so high because of sugar. Yeah, but it's because of the cheesecake. Yes, they care about that we're in war because the war is the reason why this is taking place. Well, we're not really, we're on a blockade. We're not actually even in a kinetic war or anything like that. Well, Iran's, well, why are gas prices wise? The trade-off war moves. You're saying they only care about gas prices.

1:02:02I'm saying that's the only thing that's actually affecting Americans' lives at this point. That is the consequences of the war. If you don't turn on the news. We started with Iran, yes. But it's the. In part. It is, though. It is a part of, no, it is. Like, if you don't turn on the news. Yeah. And you just live your life. And gas prices were normal. you would never even think about Iran. That's even worse. That's even worse. What do you mean? That's even worse because you don't have, people are not even tracking what's going on because you're losing. You think the average American respectfully could pick Iran out on a map?

1:02:33Can pick any other country in the world out on a map? The average American cares about their life, their family. You don't think the average American is following the Iran war? No, I don't. Really? The average American? You don't think the average American If you pulled the average American and say, what's the capital of Iran? What percentage would actually get it right? The average American. I don't think if I'm asking a question like that. I just think the average American is focused on their own lives. You think the average American links the war to gas prices being high? Well, of course, because gas prices are high.

1:03:00Simple. And food, because the gas has to get here. Well, gas prices, inflation were up during Biden. I mean, Tom did an amazing breakdown. Like you said, what was your assessment of what percentage of these gas prices actually have to do with trailing inflation versus the Hormuz situation? Well, Pat and I, Bill, talked about refineries in the last couple weeks. He just did a great expose on it. Refineries is 40 % to 45 % of the increase in the price of gas. The 55%, 60 % is that barrel of oil. So it's real. And to America, they don't know about the refineries. That's why we're doing these things, and we put them up there to tell people about it.

1:03:37The average American thinks about that barrel of oil correctly is making their life hell. And if they're a trucker, if they're a mom, if they have to commute a long way to work, that's not doing it. And they're connecting it to making their life. Let me show you this. Let me show you what just happened right now, okay? Report just came in from Yahoo Finance. U.S. mortgage applications have fallen to their lowest since 1995. Not 2008 after the mortgage crisis. 31 years? 1995, 31 years ago. What happened in 1995 to drop to the lowest there? you know how things are right now for regular mortgage loan officers, not guys doing loans above a million dollars.

1:04:17That business is here. They're not being impacted. But to the guys that are doing$400 ,000 loans,$300 ,000 loans,$700 ,000 loans, how do you think those guys are doing right now? It's a very different game. Why is mortgages the lowest since 1995? Why? By the way, it's a buyer's market. It is a buyer's market. Yeah, it's definitely a buyer's market today because people, It's not like it's – if I'm a buyer right now, I would be making 10 aggressive offers on properties that I want, and let them say no. I'll be making 10 aggressive offers right now. Let the seller say no. Actually, I like that idea.

1:04:53What do you mean? No, I just like that idea. No, that's exactly what I would do today. Because how many people can afford a 7.5 % interest? No, not that many. What do you think rates are going to be in three years, Tom? Three years, I think rates – so that's one year after the new president. Yeah. One year after the new president, I think rates might get down to 4.999. Okay, at 4.999 versus 7.5. Let's just say 5%, right? So, okay, you refi in three years. And when that happens, what do you think property value is going to do? It's going to spike. Okay, because traffic is going to be there. So you're going to have more bids like the auction.

1:05:30You have more people bidding for a product that goes up. You know, they always say, like, you know my Wayne Gretzky card that is sold for$2.2 million? You know why it's sold for$2.2 million? Because it was two millionaires that wanted it. If those two millionaires didn't want it, it would have sold for$800 ,000. So that's just because of two crazy guys that wanted that card. The market maker. The market maker. So right now, if a person's wanting to buy, I would go to my realtor, and I would go make 10 offers right now. Super low, but I'd make 10 offers right now of properties that I like. Let them say no.

1:06:01How low if it's a$700 ,000 house, Pat? Okay, give me a price point. Ready for this? Because right now, I know for a fact, on Zillow, I saw a$700 ,000 house, which I was going to talk to Tom about. It's ridiculous. It's sick. It's like three-bedroom, four-bath, whatever. I would have my realtor pull up comps for what it sold for the last 12 months. Pull up comps. And I'll let you say the comps say$660 ,000. Comparables are at$660 ,000. I'm making a$595 ,000 offer. Say no. Yeah. Go ahead. Say no. At least you have an opportunity to say no. Yeah, go say no. All right, no problem. You know, all you have to say is yes or no.

1:06:42And then let them decide what they want to do. But I would be making an aggressive offer like this. The moment it drops traffic with the application, it'll go back up. This is the time to be a little bit aggressive with your offers. Don't be surprised. Trust me, I've made some offers, but a person said yes. I'm like, shit, I should have gone a little bit lower. And when they say yes, what happens? I'm going to go 2-9-9. Play ball. Go back and forth. Play ball. Obviously, don't do it if you can't afford to buy the property. You're doing this for fun, man. Only do it. Don't have a good time. Can you imagine?

1:07:10Really bored. I made a$2.2 million offer on three. They said, yes, I can't afford a$25 ,000. Don't do it. Congratulations. You're being sued. Yeah, don't do that if you don't have that going on. All right, let's get to the next story, and this kind of goes with oil. Tom, G7 nations will release 100 million barrels of oil and diesel fuel after prices soar. This is an AP story that just came out. So let me go to this. The group of seven wealthy democracies said Friday they plan to release 100 million barrels of oil and fuel products in the coming weeks, starting with substantial amounts of diesel.

1:07:45After the fuel hit record high prices, President Trump said the diesel release would happen immediately, echoing the G7 promise of a front load substantial release with 20 days and the rest over four months. Tom, what does this mean? Well, that's not a lot of oil, but it's enough to make a difference. For how long? Well, okay. Watch this. How many barrels of oil does the United States consume a day? Oh, man. Consume a day. I don't know. What is it? I believe it's 18 to 21 million, depending on whether it's winter or not. 20 million barrels a day. We love oil. Nothing. Correct. Now then. So this is getting us through a week, maybe.

1:08:24But the U.S. creates about, you know, we drill and we generate. I think it's 14 to 16, depending on the season and stuff like that. So this will make a little bit of a dent in the cost of diesel, but not a big dent. And if you guys could show the AAA, the AAA price of diesel, and then go compare it to the state of California, just go AAA gas and price of diesel. and then select California. Those are the rankings for podcast. So, yep. Triple A. So what's happening? We'll show you what's going on. And this is also California. Scroll down on the bottom and select California and select Diesel. Right there.

1:09:08Go to California and then right select Diesel. On the right. On the right. On the right. On the right. There you go.

1:09:18Current average,$6. No, no, compared to California. Right there. Location, national, right there. Right there, red, where it says national. Okay. There you go. There we go, Tom. Ladies and gentlemen, it's currently 835, 632 national. That's bad. And so what is this going to mean? It's a start, Pat. It's going to help a little bit of relief. But everything that I've read, it's maybe a 22-cent change for maybe five weeks. because 100 million barrels we just saw is not is is just a publicity stunt like a story you need for five weeks by the way you better have some news and something you do the next five weeks or else it's a waste i think it shows that you're doing something and you're getting people's attention but the the number of barrels that they talk about when you compare the amount that we use on a daily basis, you know, I'm seeing maybe 22 cents in maybe five weeks.

1:10:23Yeah, so what's the point? The point is there's a few ways I'm processing it. It's more PR than anything. One is a PR stunt, publicity stunt. The other part that I see is maybe you have something going on in the next four to five weeks that nobody else knows about. Exactly. Maybe we're just oblivious. Maybe we're just, you know, people that are watching saying there's nothing here, but maybe there is. And what could that be, Tom? I don't know, because the problem that we have in the United States is the refineries. Even if we have enough oil and we can get the oil down, we're still low on refineries because California, right here, they cause Valero to close at Benicia, and they close Phillips 66 to close.

1:11:02And then in Texas, a refinery closed that had been open for 50 years, and it was just too expensive to do retrofitting. And so I'm going to look up here. Date of last refinery built in the United States. I'm going to tell you for it. I believe it's 50 years, believe it or not. And that's what we need. So could we get a lot of supply in? Yeah. Maybe there's something that's going to happen, you know, in terms of a small Texas refinery in February 2022. But the last significant major build was the mainstream facility in Garyville, Louisiana, permitted in 1977. That was our last giant refinery built in the United States.

1:11:44So what's the biz doc solution to this? Well, if the president has got a lot more supply or he's got a way to get the price of oil down, that'll affect the 60 % of the price of diesel and gasoline that is based on the oil. So if he's got a way to do that, Pat, and he's got something coming, then we're going to get some relief that way. But we also need, man, we need refinery capacity. You need scale, though. You need scale with this because the Aramco CEO says that because of the Strait of Hormuz and what happened, the Middle East conflicts contributed to, you know, how many barrels of lost export?

1:12:21Do you know how many barrels of lost export? Probably billions. Three billion barrels of lost export. Yeah. While global stockpiles have already been drawn down substantially. So 100 million is like a sneeze. It's like a sneeze. It's one week versus months and months. It maybe is a good story to tell, but you better have something in the pipeline that we don't know about. I'm just saying. Pipeline is a very apropos word for this. You better have something in the pipeline because everything you're doing, you know what I said the other day?

1:12:50A previous company I was a part of, World Financial, Transamerica, a guy told me something one time. I wrote a paper one time to the company with a 16-page article on nine things the company should consider doing. So this one guy comes up to me and says, Pat, you share too many ideas with the home office. I said, what do you mean? He says, nobody shares as many ideas as you do with the home office. Here's my suggestion to you. I said, what's that? Instead of having nine requests, choose out of the nine which one you like the most and go with that. Go with one. Okay, go with one. Yeah. And then let everybody else say the other eight.

1:13:23Okay? You just say the one. And I said, very interesting. So that approach changed. We got better results. What's the point? Do you remember day one, executive orders, how many things Trump fixed just in day one? On stage when we were there. We were there. How many things he fixed on day one? It was like a little too much. First of all, what you just said is the problem. Yeah. So the amount of great he did on day one, it needed to be sprinkled. Sprinkled instead of calendar. You could have done salt. Every 90 days. Drop it. Drop it. Every 90 days, drop it. So the American people, Republicans, have totally forgotten what this guy did on day one.

1:14:01It's almost like we forgot that we shut down the 20 million people. Chris Cuomo had a guest that got on. And you know what the guest says to Cuomo? I don't know if you guys have this or not. Says, look, I'm a Democratic voter, and I didn't like Trump. But I got to tell you, I like what he's doing. I thought my 401k was going to drop. My 401k is up. I thought this. I thought that. And Cuomo's just kind of listening to him. I don't know if you have this clip or not. I have it somewhere here saved. If you can't find it, that's not it. But it's a lady. It's a lady that calls in and he says, good for you on what it says.

1:14:34Let me just see if I have it here or not. But so part of it is. You're saying there was evidence of a reasonable Democrat. Yeah, here it is. I found it. I found it. I'll send it to you. You're not going to find it. It's very hard to find this one. But I'll find it. I got it. I want the audience to see this. So there are some people that are seeing what change. Like these are the voters that are like, hey, my 401k is up. Did you see what Scott Galloway said? When president got elected, I sold everything I had. What a horrible decision. And you know what he said? By the way, good for him for being honest and telling the audience.

1:15:01Honestly stupid in that decision. You can say whatever you want. You know what he said? He came back and he bought everything 20 % more expensive. Yeah, that's a dumb decision. I understand. I respect the guy, but it's a dumb decision. It's a dumb decision. A lot of people are part of that camp. This lady is the complete opposite. I just sent it. I want you to watch this. Very simple. Nothing crazy. Listen to this. You know that friend you only call when you need something? HomeServe's here for you. Got a burst pipe, HVAC outage, or electrical issue? HomeServe has your back for regular use, where basic homeowner's insurance typically won't help.

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1:16:21Good for you. Well, that is big of you to say. It'll probably lose you some friends in this polarized. So what's it? But you know what the point is right there? A lot of people feel that way. Yeah, they should. Like my 401k is doing so. But I think Trump's PR team, and this is the greatest PR team you've ever seen with a president. They need to kind of say, maybe we won too much too fast. And maybe you're supposed to like, remember that one commercial that Michael did? it's one of the greatest commercials ever. Gymnasium with a bird? No, I have to find this for you. It's a Jordan commercial. I have to find this commercial for you.

1:17:01It's maybe I made you believe. Just type in maybe I made you believe and then type in Jordan commercial. Maybe I made you believe and then type in Jordan commercial. Maybe I made, that's the one. It's my fault. That's the one. Can you go to that one? Can we play that? Pause it? Yeah, for sure. Watch this. And go to the beginning. It's because it's going. Pause it. Go to the beginning and then put the audio. Go for it. Maybe it's my fault. Maybe I led you to believe it was easy when it wasn't. Maybe I made you think my highlights started at the free throw line and not in the gym. Maybe I made you think that every shot I took was a game winner.

1:17:41That my game was built on flash and not fire. Maybe it's my fault that you didn't see that failure gave me strength. That my pain was my motivation. The blood. We have to re-remind Americans. We've ever led you to believe that basketball was a God-given gift and not something I worked for. Wow. Listen. Every single day of my life. Or maybe you're just. Maybe I destroyed the game. Or maybe. Or maybe. You're just making excuses Don't you freaking love this Somebody send it to Nike To me, I think they need to Well, hopefully we sold a few shoes for them So this commercial The American people forgot And they forgot that he got shot They forgot that they played games with him They forgot how hard it was to come back They forgot that they tried to put him in prison They need to tell that story Great point.

1:18:41They're not telling them. We forgot what they did to this guy. E.J. and Carroll. Hey, do you want to go shopping? It's on me. You want to go to Monaco? You want to go to Canada? You want to go to France? $450 million? Oh, Bar-a-Lago is only worth$18 million. Dude, we forgot. Yeah. How easily. And so they need to make that commercial and just say, by the way, if you see this commercial here soon, maybe I made you believe. Maybe. This was easy. There needs to be a commercial like that made. Anyways, let's go to the next story. Next story I want to get to is Russia. The story comes out of nowhere.

1:19:15It's like, wait, what did you just say? So China did this six years ago on Wuhan lab, and it was like from bats, right? What was it? Pangolin had sex with a bat in a wet market. It's a wet market is what it was. And now Russia comes out, and the story's pretty crazy. What page is this one at? I'm trying to find this page. Okay, there it is. researcher at Russia Plague Laboratory dies of unknown infection. Wait, what? Yes, a researcher in Russia dies. Her name, she's a 28-year-old lab worker at Russia's Irkutsk Anti-Plague Institute, died on October 2nd after developing severe pneumonia. There are reports that she may have been exposed after breaking a test tube containing plague bacteria, but that has not been officially confirmed.

1:20:08That's from the Moscow Times. Authorities placed nearly 300 people who had contact with her under medical observation, including more than 100 reportedly monitored in hospitals. A hospital was quarantined, and additional precautions were put in place around the region. The concern is pneumonic plague, the lung form of plague, which can spread person to person through respiratory droplets. And Vinny, I'm sure you love that part of it. Yeah, I love that. So for now, none of the monitor contacts have been confirmed with plague, and officials have reported them asymptomatic or testing negative. Russia's public health agency says the woman officially died from pneumonia of unknown origin and says its testing has not established that plague from her laboratory was the cause of her death.

1:20:52Tom, how worried are you about this? Well, I'm not really worried because this doctor from Russia came to the microphone. His name is Anton Fauchev. And Anton Fauchev came—I'm making that up. I created a Russian clip. Is this a clip from Rubio? Let's see what Rubio had to say. Go for it. We know what we know, obviously, about whatever the Russians have provided, which is it seems that there was a worker at the lab that was infected and is concerned that that could have spread, at least internally. So you've seen them do quarantines of that nature. There's very limited travel between the U.S. and Russia, obviously.

1:21:29But like anything else, something like that gets out, it could quickly spread. So we're watching and monitoring it closely. I don't think it's cause for alarm, but it is cause for focus and a cause to just keep an eye on it. And we're doing that. We know what we know. All kidding aside about, you know, creating an Anthony, Anton Fanchinsky, you know, of Russia. And I'm sure there probably will be one. My hope, I'm with Rubio on this one, 100 percent. Watch. We got to watch out for this and see what's going on there and see. Was it truly just a lab accident? unfortunately but well you know what it also says it says the russians have a lab working on bioweapons that's the point that i was gonna make that's like did we like have we forgot that that an enemy country is working on bioweapons and then you know she she um you know damaged a a a storage unit whether she dropped the test tube or whatever it was something broke open and she got contaminated and the contamination led to a violent fast-moving pneumonia that she died of congestive heart failure of pneumonia rather quickly.

1:22:37Vinny, how worried are you? Listen, okay. If we don't learn from the past moving forward, then we are literally stupid. And I'm not saying nothing about Rubio saying, you know, it's no calls for alarm. I think there's always calls for alarm, okay? He can't say that though because he has to be calm. He has to be calm. Remember, the way the left reacted was so much fear and scare the crap out of everybody, right? Yeah. And use it. Well, no, but here's the thing. Well, when the president said, China, stop the flights and everything, what do the opposite side do? No, I'm Nancy Pelosi. I'm here in Chinatown.

1:23:12Come over here. No, no. I think, by the way, that location, Pat, that airport, everybody there, it's not like, well, Russia's going to be mad at us. Nobody from that area, they need to monitor anybody that she's been in contact with. I know they're quarantining, what, 200 people. None of those people could fight with the United States Period, full stop, zero And let them be ready, you know what's funny If Trump says, you know, nobody from there could come here Watch the left all of a sudden and be like No, we love Russia, bring them, bring everybody No, I don't think it's like cause for alarm Like, oh my god, Pat, but learn from our mistakes Nobody from there comes over here Period Because that's what was happening with freaking COVID Everybody and their mother was flying here on purpose And that's what happened And they shut down the freaking world And nobody was held accountable This is Russia.

1:23:55Don't let nobody come here. I agree. I mean, cause for concern. If I'm the average American, I'm not overthinking this. This is nothing that I think is going to affect the average American. I'd be worried about what's going to happen with China because Russia borders China. I'd be worried about what would happen in Ukraine because Russia is in an all scale out war with Ukraine right now. So who knows what type of things they're putting on the battlefield? By the way, speaking of Putin and Russia, did you see that story about what Putin mentioned, his philosophy on wars these days? He said the following.

1:24:31Let's see if we can find this. Putin orders Russian troops to abandon the rules of war, Zelensky claims. Russian President Vladimir Putin has ordered his generals to abandon the rules of war and step up attacks on civilian targets and nuclear energy sites. So just at the same time that there's this potential outbreak with this pneumonic potential plague, you also allegedly have Putin basically saying attack civilian sites and nuclear energy sites. So I'll continue to say this and ring the alarms. Russia's not our friend. Russia's a problem. Putin is a thug and we need to act like it. That's just my overall assessment on Russia.

1:25:12I love this, Pat. Boris Yeltsin admitted that there was a bioweapon program and ordered it shut in 1992. What survived was supposedly a minor biology facility, and Russia refused to allow outside verification or inspection. And the U.S. for years has said Russia is likely out of compliance with the BioWeapons Treaty. Well, here you go. CNN calls it a plague laboratory because CNN can't say, and CNN also says things like minor attracted person because we changed the name of things. It's a bio—I'm going to call it right here. I personally believe that where there's smoke, there's fire, and this means the Russians probably have a bioweapons facility that they've had going on that they've since 1992 when Yeltsin said, yeah, we'll shut the thing off.

1:26:02Remember the movie Reagan where the three guys kept dying of heart failure in six months? How am I supposed to negotiate them if they keep dying? So he was one of those guys, you know, Chernyenko, Andrei Chernyenko, and Yeltsin. And so here now we have confirmation that they have a plague institute, not a bioweapons facility. So I think Siberia. That facility you're talking about, what's the name of it, Tom? The Irkuts. Irkuts. Let me pronounce it for you. Siberia adjacent. Is this the Yeltsin one? No, I'm talking about the one that Yeltsin said. What is the Yeltsin one that he talked about? That's the one I'm interested in.

1:26:43It's called the Biological Weapons Convention that they signed.

1:26:56I just want to know where that location was. Svrdlovsk, S-V-E-R-D-L-O-V-S-K. In the city of the incident. Svrdlovsk. But the name of the place was Arizona. Anthrax spore leak occurred at military compound 19, a highly classified military bioweapon lab. Okay, so type in Military Compound 19. Just find that city. It said in Irkutsk. It's Sverd. Well, they changed it to Irkutsk. Yeah, go to that one. It was an anthrax leak. This is in 1979, you're saying? 1979, Soviet authorities contemporaneously maintained the list was due to consumption of tainted meat in the area with butchers. I don't know if there's exposure being indicative of a tainted meat.

1:27:39Oh, wait a minute. I love that. I mean, their excuse was the China excuse 20 years prior? The earlier chronological event in Western Uventus, Soviet hosting a program aimed. Interesting. So then what did they do? Go a little bit lower to see if there's controversy behind it. Accident, a Harvard University Press account reported that at some point during the period, April 2nd through 3rd, 1979, Anthrakis spores were released from a four-story building located in Soviet Armed Forces Research Facility near the place in Soviet Union, referred to as Kampa 19 Special Zone. The building is said to have housed a production unit which produced dry bee and thracous spores for weapon use, for weapon use.

1:28:23The spores could have created a plumb which the wind carried over parts of it. Plums? Plume. A plume. That's like smoke from a fire. The release, according to one Russian source, took the plague. Go a little bit lower. Go a little bit lower to see what else. What's the 59 ,000 people? Let me see that one. No, stay right there. Right there at the top there. It says 59 ,000 people. Go a little bit higher. The large scale of vaccinations and population in the affected district were also undertaken by the authorities. And also 80 % of our 59 ,000 eligible people were injected with the Soviet STI anthrax vaccine.

1:28:59Yeah. So, I don't know. Now, listen, when you're working at places like this, is the airport fully shut down of coming down here? Like, not really, right? Because you can travel back and forth. Even Rubio said there's not a lot of travel. From Russia to here? What is the total volume of travel from Russia to here? What is the total volume of travel from Russia to U.S.? I would make it zero absolutely today. There's not much. You cannot come here. What is the volume of travel from Russia to here? How many people are coming? What does it say? Ryski International. So you can find the map. Irkutsk is in eastern Siberia, north of China.

1:29:42Nationals traveling to the U.S. Yeah, I'm anti-anybody coming right now from there. I wonder what, because all you need is what? One person. One. That is it. Remember how Italy was a big part at the beginning of COVID? Yeah, of course. Chinese people were traveling to Italy and spreading. they were coming here. So it also, some people may say, who cares what the number is? It's about. I'd be much more worried about it going to Europe than I would be coming to America. Okay, well, let me tell you how it gets here. See, it goes from Irkuts to China. Irkuts is a military and mid-size manufacturing city with travel frequently to northern China.

1:30:27Yeah, I'm not a fan. I would just shut it down. You're not a fan of mnemonic plagues? No, no, I'm not a fan. Anything with lab. Trust them. No, I don't trust them. They're not a partner. So they're not a partner that what they tell you. Let me ask you guys. Where would you put China on the list of our greatest adversary? I say enemy. I don't say adversary. Whatever you want to. Enemy. Whatever you want to. That guy wants to kill me. He's my adversary. No, no, he's the enemy. Where do you rank them? What do you mean? On the global stage? They're up number one. Who's above them? I mean, okay, I'll just give my ranking, and then I'll say Iran number one, Russia number two, China number three.

1:31:05So you put Russia ahead of China? Yes. Okay. Because we do no business with Russia. We have an interactive relationship with China. Yes, we're competing. Okay. But we have a trade agreement with them. We have this AI red telephone now. We got nothing going on with Russia. Russia's goal, Russia's a type of country, they would cut off their arm as long as you lose your arm. But it's like, yeah, you'll lose your arm too. They don't care. That's what they're built for. Just to destruct United States, what's your ranking? Nis Naya. What would you say? The Las Vodanya. What's your ranking? IRGC, meaning they're evil, they're disgusting people.

1:31:41They can't do anything to us on a big scale. China, in my opinion, purposely released a virus that killed millions, and guess what? Nobody could do nothing to them. What's your ranking? I'm putting them number one. Okay. Adam, you know why? Millions dead. spying on us, building bases here. And hold on, the scariest part? We have governors of California, everybody worshiping them, bringing them. You have Hassan Piker dressing like freaking Mao Zedong, like the loser like he is. China's up here. Russia knows. We got the nukes, you got the nukes. Iran to me, the IRGC, it's not that big of a threat to me.

1:32:16I have the travel information, nothing to see here. By the way, what's your ranking? Geopolitical enemies. China's number one. China. China's the biggest. So here we go. But I think Russia's the worst. All right. All right. Well, let's talk about it. Irkuts. I think it's a personal problem. We'll keep going. What good do we get from Russia? Hang on. At all. Let's go to, let's talk number scream. Go ahead. 25 ,000 travelers a month go from Irkuts to three major areas of China. The major hubs being Beijing and Shanghai, where business travelers go back and forth. Well, at least those aren't widely populated.

1:32:51Thank God. Oh, my gosh. And then to Hainan Islands, which is also known as the Hawaii of China, that during the winter, you know, right about now, starting within 30 days, they go to the island of Sanya from Irkutsk, the wealthier people and people looking to take a break. It's called Hawaii of China. And to the the more moderate economic people go to the northwest border cities where they have relatives, because apparently South Russia and northern China, there's a lot of people apparently that ethno-socially look fairly similar. So there you have it. $25 ,000 a month. Some go to an island, and then some go to Shanghai, some go to Beijing.

1:33:32So in other words, Pat, there's a lot of travel. If this breaks out as a plague there, the travel, it goes everywhere. Let me ask a question in a different way. Because it goes to Shanghai and Beijing. Let me just be a devil's eye and just completely think a different way. Do you think a Putin may be dropping this to scare the shit out of it? Like, let me just completely go a different direction. Hey, let me tell you what we're capable of here. Because remember, this is right after Zelensky says publicly, Ukraine said it forced 250 Russian soldiers to surrender. And then this happens? Do you think this is kind of a part of where Putin's trying to say, look, guys, I don't know if you want to mess around with me.

1:34:18If you want me to stop the whole world, I'm capable of doing that. Do you guys want to mess around? And he would do it. Yeah, absolutely. But what do you think a part of this is like a dark, demonic, dirty way of intentionally doing this just to scare the shit out of the world? Leaders do this a while. Did I see former KGB Putin pulling off something like this? Yes. During the early part of the Cold War, Francis Gary Powers was captured when a US U-2 spy plane went down. Before that, we would fly up there sometimes, and there were times where we sent fake distress signals. And we said, we may need your help.

1:34:53We have a military test aircraft that we just want to let you know. The only reason we said that to them is they would look at the map and look at where they are. And they'd be like, what the F are the Americans doing at 75 ,000 feet, 1 ,000 miles over our land? We did it not to warn them that there was a problem. You know what we did it to tell them? I'm there, mother. We're around. I was here. Yeah. You know, and so we would make, oh, gosh, we may have something here. It's a bit of a test. Sorry about this. Psychological warfare. And they'd be going, what the hell have they done? That's exactly it.

1:35:24Psychological warfare. Now let's take that to what Pat just said. Turn the page to full-blown evil of wiping out citizens. Not just telling you how far my military technology can go, but making a threat against citizens. I think he's very capable. I'll just tell you a quick story of why I became even more hawkish on Russia versus China. And it was recently, you know, Fareed Zakaria on CNN, he does a great job interviewing a lot of geopolitical characters. He was interviewing, it was basically regarding the 2008 recession, regarding the mortgage-backed securities. And I want to say, was it Ben Bernanke at the time?

1:35:57Whoever was chairman of the Fed that flew over and it was a big meeting. And basically he got wind of this story. He said there was a credible assessment that Russia went to China, Putin went to China, and tried to convince the Chinese leadership, I don't know if it was Xi at the time, to completely offload any mortgage-backed securities that they own with intention of bringing down the American economy. So the Chinese leaders at the time had to say, oh, wow, so you want us to team up against America to do this? And you know what the Chinese leaders decided to do? Nothing. They said, we don't want to get involved in that and make matters worse because that could bring down the global economy.

1:36:39And Russia said, we're willing to pay that price. What's my point? Russia is willing to self-destruct in order to bring down America that's their goal I'm not saying that China's a friend and I'm not saying that China's not a foe or a competitor or anything like that I'm just saying at the end of the day China is trying to beat America when it comes to the number one economy in the world Russia is just trying to basically divide and sow chaos in America that's where I did did a Russian person piss you off this weekend? no a Ukrainian did but that's a whole other story All right, so let me get to the next story.

1:37:14Next story I want to get to is a clip from Denzel Washington. In an interview, he's at a university. He's being asked a question. I love his answer. I think everybody in the world can learn from his answer here. Go for it. Equality. Now to see it all so under attack. Under attack by? Government forbidding it. The hardest thing to do is look in the mirror. The easiest thing to do is blame someone else. And I'm not talking about anybody. I'm talking about everybody. It's so easy to go, if we could just get them right, if we could just fix her or just fix him, then we, but we don't look in the mirror.

1:37:54That's where it should start. Well, what can I do better? Well, why don't you try being honest with yourself, Denzel, or whatever your name is. Ask yourself real questions and give yourself honest answers. Can you go to the part two? There's two of them. The last day of your life doesn't matter what you've done. Who you've helped is what matters, who you've lifted up. You can't have more success than I've had. And I'm here to tell you, it doesn't mean a daggone thing. It complicates things. It's lonely at the top. Look at the pyramid he explained. Trust me. I've been at the top. It's a pyramid.

1:38:32It's like this, right? Like a pyramid. It's very slippery up there. There's not a lot of room. it's easy to slide down and there's hardly anybody up there so be careful of what you ask for and don't measure it by what the world tells you success is what a power great freaking point and i love that slippery at the top here you can't left the right not a lot about so you're getting up there is one thing staying up there's a second thing but also always trying to see if the other person can fix themselves, it'll be so much better. It's like, well, what if the other guy can fix himself? What if the other guy can do something about it?

1:39:13No, what if you and I can do something about it? It's never been the most exciting message when you give this, when people come up to me and say, that person did this, this person did this, that person did this. Well, what can you do to improve it? You know, I think a lot of times like, well, Democrats, this and Republicans, this and, you know, business, this and taxes, this and this state, this and that person, this and my mom, this, my dad, this, my wife, my husband, my cousin, what role do you play in this? What role do you and I play? What can we, it's a, it's a, it's a, such a unpopular message that whenever you get this message, you don't like that person.

1:39:49Yeah. Whenever that person gives you this message, you actually don't want to talk to that person. I remember one time I heard a person say that there's three different types of people that, you know, uh, people speak to. There's those people you speak to that are ahead of you. There's those people that speak to because ahead of you, they give you wisdom and what's to come, and they can challenge you. There's those people that you speak to that are at the same level as you because it tells you you're not the only person that's going through the challenging season. And then there's those people you speak to that are below you because it shows you that you can give value to everybody.

1:40:21Sometimes people just want to hang out with people below them because it makes them feel superior instead of making them feel small. And the moment you get to a certain level, you're like, I just want to talk to the people at the same level as me or below me. That was one of the threats I gave to my guys when I sent a message out to them. People don't want to hear the truth. People don't want to hear the message about what you can do to improve this situation. So I saw this message from Denzel. I'm like, man, the world's got to hear what this guy said. I wish Denzel would do more of stuff like this.

1:40:49I wish Denzel would share. Every time you see him in interviews, he drops gems. He's very good. One time a lady said, so who did you vote for? Have you ever seen this interview when he was asked, who did you vote for? You ever seen this? Can you find this? Have you ever seen this? He was outside? Yeah, he was outside. He's like, he says, who did you vote for? And he says, who did I vote for? It's none of your business who I voted for. You've never heard him say this? Oh, yeah, I saw it. It's election time. Just go on X if you want to find it. Yeah. Yeah, none of your business who I voted for. Go for it.

1:41:19This is two minutes. So hopefully he'll get right into it. Mr. Washington, you're here in D.C. during an interesting time with the transition in the White House. Just wondering who you wound up supporting in the election and why. Go ahead. Fences. Fences. How about this? I don't know if you saw it. There's a fake news story going around. It got thousands of shares online. You saw that. And I just thought you might want to clear it up because people are confused. There's a few words that start with F and end with K. That one ends with E. But it starts with F. Yeah, but it's too vague. You've got to be specific right now.

1:42:01F, K, and E. What was the question? Well, that was the question. Who you wound up supporting in the election, presidential election? None of your business. None of my business? None of your business. Well, I'm only asking because the story was online, but that's okay. Let me ask you this. What issue do you hope President-elect Trump tackles? What's number one in your mind with the new administration? I don't know. You know, I'd have to be more informed to just say off the top of my head. What a great answer. I don't know. Education, jobs, health. I mean, there's so many. Yeah. I want to just ask you, though, about the issue of race relations, because the film touches upon that.

1:42:44Right now, under President Obama, over the last eight years, in your mind, have race relations improved under his leadership? You know, race relationships have to do with race relationships. you're white or whatever you are I'm black or whatever I am, we're standing here talking now, that's how we get things done you can't legislate love the president of the United States can't legislate us to like each other let me tell you, so every once in a while, when the kids have a lot of homework and everybody's busy you know what I can there's a few movies I can watch back to back to back movie ends, I can put it again, you know what's one of them?

1:43:23Man on Fire And you know, in a different lifetime, Denzel was going to be a pastor. Really? Oh, yeah. Denzel, man on fire, I can watch. And in that, he's conflicted with God and his life and with us for living and killing people and all this other stuff. Yeah. I don't know. I wish this guy would talk more. Yeah. And not about politics, about life. Life. Forget about politics, who you voted for. I want to know how you think. he can he's one of those guys he's one of these guys you know what these guys are these are the guys that he can do this he can bring these guys and say knock it off already he's one of those guys you don't have a lot of guys like this you know very and he said he says trust me I've been to the top what is he saying he's not right now he's not right now you know how hard to say he was at the top he was the guy of course forever And then ricochet, all the movement.

1:44:24And I love that you brought God into it because, you know, about the people that you want to hear and the friends that you don't want to hear the advice and you don't want to hear those people. You know who was that person? Jesus Christ, at the end of the day, Pat, he wasn't like a nice guy. He wasn't walking around patting everybody on the back. He would tell you, he would call everybody out on everything, and a lot of people didn't want to be around him. That was that friend that we have that's always like, hey, listen, that they check you. They're like, hey, man, you're not like, think about it.

1:44:50If you're getting big, if you're gaining weight, you don't want to be around the person that's always like, yo, dude, I've been watching you. You know what I mean? Are you trying to get healthy? If you're not ready, Pat, to make a decision, that's the last person you want to do. You want to be away from that person as much as you can. And so I think it's very important to actually want to be around that person that holds your foot to the fire all the time. Like, dude, how are you doing? Not always bashing you, but how are you doing? How's your family? That thing that you were talking to me about, are you okay?

1:45:18Are you doing this? Are you trying to make changes? You need that, though. I just want to go back to what he said at the beginning and why I thought it was so important. I think the reason that you wanted to show this is because it starts with you at the end of the day. He gave the shout-out to the man in the mirror, Michael Jackson. Every day, that's the only person you see. You look in the mirror, that's what you're going to see. And he talked about self-reflection and self-improvement and self-esteem and self-reliance and personal finance and everything that you can do on your own. The way I look at it is the world is changing so fast.

1:45:50What can you do? What can you control? What are the things that matter to you that you can actually do to manifest what you want in your life? And I love what he said about you can't legislate love. You're going to get along with the people you're going to get along with in your life, and you're going to make those decisions. So respect to Denzel. That sounds pretty conservative to me, Denzel, but I don't want to put words in your mouth. It's none of my business, you know? Yeah, I love this guy's philosophy and the way he is, personality. He'd be the kind of guy I would want to have a three-hour dinner with, no cameras on, no phones, nothing, just to talk to him.

1:46:27Not even a podcast. Somebody you want to just talk to. Did I tell you the story about Denzel and his son? My friend Damien Wayans Jr. was at a movie, like sitting in the front, and he went with Denzel's son, and apparently the son wasn't supposed to go. Everybody's in this theater. The movie hasn't started yet, and Denzel watches. and walks in and goes, you, get the hell out of here. And Damon's sitting there, and he's like, can you imagine you're in the theater? And Denzel Washington walks in, points at someone and goes, get the hell out of here, and they leave. His son was in there. He didn't have permission to go watch a movie.

1:46:59Oh, wow. It's my kind of a guy. Yeah, I love that. All right, let's go to the next story. Let's go to the next story. So on another note, Tom Cruise does this movie, $160 million budget, and it ends up doing$8 million opening weekend. And the movie's called what? Digger? Digger. Digger. And the story, so what's the movie about, Tom? You were talking about, I saw the commercial. It sucked. I couldn't even mind. It was horrible. What's the movie about? I was confused by the commercial. I was confused by a few things I saw on X and social media that were reviewing it. So I attempted to go find a description of the plot.

1:47:35And the nearest thing we can figure out is you as the viewer open up with this supposed oil billionaire named Digger. Digger Rockwell. Who is drilling for oil in Greenland. In Greenland, and they hit this methane gas, which makes a huge explosion, and a giant chunk of Greenland breaks off and starts floating on the currents toward Norway, where they say it's going to make big tidal waves and destroy shipping lanes and all this stuff in Norway. And then all of a sudden, well, this is, and then they decided, according to the plot, no, you know what, we're not going to tell anything to anybody. Maybe it'll just melt enough in the ocean that when it hits, it won't be so bad.

1:48:19So then all of a sudden things pull back and you realize you're watching a stage play playing out this happening. And so I looked at it and I'm like, this is completely confusing with twists. So that's near as I can figure what it was about. And Pat, whether the viewers didn't see Tom Cruise in this role or they didn't understand the way the plot was twisting or they thought it was just another anti-climate change, anti-oil drilling DEI. The fact is, everybody else did something else this weekend. As baseball playoffs started, the NFL hit week four. College football was in full song, and there were other movies out there, and they ended up in Sucksville for the weekend box office.

1:49:06And, Tom, you nailed it. He's an oil tycoon. So check this out, guys. These are the numbers, right? Costs around$125 million to$160 million. They're saying closer to$160 million they make. Which is a small movie, independent movie without CGI. Yeah, and he's producing plus roughly$100 million in marketing, meaning Warner Brothers could have$225 million to$260 million investing in this thing, $8 million domestically putting it as one of the biggest box office bombs of 2026. So, Tom, the movie is essentially a satire about fossil fuels, billionaires, politics, climate change, and all that stuff.

1:49:39So here's my thing. With a twist about whether you're watching a play on stage or you're in the depiction of a world. Which is, that's who the director is. And he did Birdman and he did The Revenant. You know, Revenant, which, you know, one of my favorites, you know, top 20 movies. But this is the thing. And I absolutely love Tom Cruise. When me and Dylan met him at the World Cup, I actually had a moment where I didn't even really want a picture. But I was like, Tom, I just want to say thank you. Because, like, he said that. I go, thank you for all the times of all the movies, of all the moments that me and my, because my dad, you know, would, you know, drink.

1:50:10And he was that guy. But when those movies were on, all of us were just in another world. And we forgot about the life that we were living in. So I thanked him for that. And he looked at me, Tom. He was like, wow. He's like, nobody's ever complimented me like that. So I thanked him. But look at, like, remember, he just did Top Gun a couple years ago. Maverick. That's what America, fighter jets, brotherhood, that type of stuff. How many times is Hollywood not going to get it, Tom? Like, how many times? from climate lectures to LGBTQ, from what we found out about Disney and all this stuff. It's like Hollywood keeps turning entertainment into this sermon.

1:50:46And how many times are you guys not going to get it? America doesn't want it. If I'm going to go watch a horror movie, I want to be scared, okay? If I want to go watch Tom Cruise, jump off of a building, do your own stunts. That's who you are. Like this shift. Yeah, MI8. Yeah, yeah, MI. Tom, it could be like Fast and Furious 35. It could be MI20. if Tom Cruise is in it, I'm watching it. Besides him as being a freaking fantastic actor, the guy's jumping up. The actor is portraying characters that is in sync with your perception of them. And now I want to see him do it again. Absolutely. Well, he said, Cruise said, he's been wanting to work with Alejandro.

1:51:22It was a long-held dream that he wanted to work with him. So he admires his work and his fearlessness and willingness to transform himself for the role. And they're not best friends, but we know this Alejandro guy. He's not a conservative. He's going to be on a complete opposite side. So there's a message there. And sometimes, you know, Jim Scott Bell, who Tom introduced me to, wrote a book called Plot and Something. He said, whenever the message is bigger than the entertainment, you lose the audience. And maybe the message was bigger than the entertainment. And maybe they were trying to make such a message about climbing because what critics called the movie, these are the words they used, smug, overlong, loud, preachy.

1:52:06So deliberately unpleasant. Like it's trying to tell you that you're wrong for doing this. How do you not know that America doesn't want to hear that? Vinny, like if right now, who's your favorite director of all time? Who would you want to be in a movie with? Francis Ford Coppola. If Coppola gave you a movie right now to do that is a story about capitalism sucks, are you going to say no to it? That capitalism sucks? And you're playing a guy that is giving hardcore recognition to communists. No. And you would not play that movie. No, because anti, because I don't stand for that, Pat. It's a story about Americans are greedy and all they care about is money, but you get to play with Coppola and you're the fifth most important role in a movie.

1:52:53You would entertain it. I would entertain it, but in my heart. Maybe, maybe it's just a role because you wanted to work with them. and maybe we as viewers don't have to necessarily say he agrees with the storyline. But he invested money too, but he's a producer of the movie. Tom put his money in. Did Tom put money in too? Oh, yeah. Could you look it up? You know that for a fact? Sometimes you can get the producer and not put money in. I'm almost positive that he had to. I think he put money because if he's producing it, I think he's. If he invested, you can get the producer without investing because they want to put that name on there as a title because it can draw an audience.

1:53:29What's wrong with him doing a passion project? I have no credible reporting that Tom Cruise personally put his own cash into the movie. But he is a producer of it. What I'm saying is he had a producer. He did not personally invest. Champion. Champion. Those are two different things that you can do. So I don't know if he invested in it or not. Okay. Not his best work. But not a snitch. But not a snitch. Who would you select? Similar to Cruise with this, is there somebody out there that you would love to work with? Like if you were an actor. For me, it wouldn't be directed. It would be an actor.

1:54:00If I'm in a movie with Denzel, with RDJ, with Russell Crowe, with Vince Vaughn, man, Vince Vaughn, like the stuff you watch, like Speaker City, right? The stuff that he did with Old School. You know, you get a couple miles. You think I'm doing this for me? You think I'm doing this for you? You think I want to be away from my wife and kids? I'm doing this for you. Shame on you for saying something like that. We need sand in here. I know a great sand guy. The stuff that he says, earmuffs, that's all you have to say. Why can't you do it? That's all you have to do. I'd love to. There's certain people.

1:54:37I would love Mel Gibson directing, Stanley Kubrick. Well, Mel Gibson would be a fun one. Mel Gibson would be a fun one. Who would it be for you? Ridley Scott. It's not even close. Really? Wow. I don't care for the liberal guys that are out there. I just don't. you know, Dino De Laurentiis going way back when. De Laurentiis, of course. But Ridley Scott, the things that he did, he did Alien, he did Blade Runner. Of course, he's old school. He did Gladiator. But look at the amount of time that spans. Blade Runner, Alien, Gladiator, and everything. It's just incredible. And, of course, his brother, Tony Scott, did Top Gun and all that.

1:55:15And then those are many. Yeah. Brother. And then Tony Scott committed suicide in Long Beach, California, jumping off a bridge. True story, unfortunately. tragically but I'd want to work with somebody like Ridley Scott very cool now we know Ridley if you're looking for an actor Tom is very good he's been on a couple sketches or Didley Scott Tom has been on a couple sketches so let me let me read to you guys father and son segment let me read this to you about relationship of a father and a son and how a son views his father as they're going through the different ages. Okay, so here we go. At five years old, your dad is your superhero.

1:55:55He's the strongest and cleverest man on the planet. He lifts you with one arm, fixes anything that breaks, and knows the answer to everything. Nothing is scary next to him, not the dark, not monsters, not thunder. You want to grow up to be exactly like him at five years old. At 10 years old, dad is the defender. He's the one you run to when someone hurts you outside, when the bike breaks or when you need a yes for something that matters. He is still a hero, but he is no longer a magician. You start to notice that he gets tired and that sometimes he does not know either. But behind him, it's still safe.

1:56:31At 15 years old, dad understands nothing. His advice is old, his rules drive you mad, and his jokes are not funny. You tell him, you don't get me and leave me alone. You are sure you are smarter than him and would do fine without him. and you never notice how much your silence hurts him. At 20, that is somewhere in the background. You're busy building your own life with study, friends, first love, first money. He calls you and you decline with, I'll ring you back later. He texts and you answer in one word. And every single day he waits for a simple, hey, dad, how are you? And he doesn't get that text.

1:57:11At 25, it turns out he was right. The advice that annoyed you works. and the warnings came true. What sounded like nagging was experience all along. You start calling him yourself, asking and listening. He was never behind the times. He had just walked the road before you and he was trying to save you from the potholes. At 30, that becomes a person. He's not a superhero or God. He's a man who was scared, who got things wrong, who did not know the right way either. He worked the job he hated so you could have a childhood and he kept his own pain quiet so you would never carry it. You finally see him as he is and you love him more for it.

1:57:53At 40, time is running out. You notice the gray hair, the slower walks, the pauses when he loses a word. It hits you that he will not be here forever. So now you count the visits. You hug him harder. Say the things you put off for years. One day, there will be nobody left to say them to. After he's gone, dad lives inside you for good. You catch his gestures, his phrases, and his look in your own mirror. You raise your own children and suddenly understand every choice he made and every silence he kept. He never really left. He is in your voice when you tell your children, don't be scared. I'm right here.

1:58:36So call him today if you can, not tomorrow, and not on a holiday. Say the things you keep putting off or just ask dad, how are you? Those words mean the world to him more than you know. So, guys, let's just text our dad real quick and say, dad, how you doing? If you can. Some people's dads are not here, but it's a simple message that means the world. Tom, when you hear something like this, 5, 10, 15, 20, 30, 40, how do you process that? I'm glad that my dad and I didn't have a real distant shift in my teenage years. Um, uh, I found he was pretty smart, pretty quick. Um, first business I built was when I was 17, my surfboard and boat repair business.

1:59:20And I remember him sitting down talking to me and saying, now you do know that you're wrapping some of that resin in newspaper and putting it in a trash can and it probably should be chemical disposal. And I'm like, yeah, I guess I got it. So you told me, I remember that conversation and I remember him saying, and you do know you're not paying insurance in my garage and you do know if something those surfboards get stolen out of my garage you're going to have to pay for those because you have no business insurance and I'm like dude all I was trying to do was make money repairing surfboards but I remember just how smart that was and when I wanted to be a marine biologist and he's and I no internet so I drove down the University of Miami and I said hey what do what do people do with a marine biologist degree Oh, about 60 % of them go get a master's.

2:00:08Thanks. I drive all the way back home from Miami. And then my dad said, what do they do with the master's degree? And I'm like, damn it, I didn't ask. I didn't think. I go back down there and I find out about 70 % of the master's get a PhD and they go to work for an oil company as an offshore drilling lobbyist. Or they go work for an environmental fund or they go back and teach. Okay, you may enjoy marine biology, but do any of those three things have any appeal to you? I said no. So I remember how my dad used to give me logic and reasoning with questions. And I would go out and find the answer and come back and like, did he know this but put me through this?

2:00:48And that's what I can go. I remember complaining to my mom. Mom, I drove all the way down to Miami twice. I had to pay for gas and everything. And just to get the answer to the question, she said, well, now you have your answer. And I used to think to myself, did he have the answer all along? And I could have just asked him, but I wouldn't have. So he was a builder. Yeah. What's the greatest thing you learned from him? Greatest lesson you learned from your dad? I'm going to come to you guys as well. What's the greatest lesson you have? And folks, if you're listening to this, just post it below.

2:01:12What's the greatest lesson you learned from your dad? Never piss off your mother. So it's like, was that it or you're joking? No, that was number two. Now, that's a pretty big one. But was that actually one that he would say? Well, he wouldn't say it like that. He said, don't upset your mother. He would warn me. because then we're all in trouble. And he was very, because if mom was upset for something for a week, it's always like, okay, everything was there. I think the lesson he taught me was simply about integrity, honesty, and, you know, don't give that up because you'll carry a label for a long time.

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2:02:36When he got cancer at 59, and he and my mom had a little extra money, and so he selected MD Anderson Cancer Research in Houston, and they were flying from Atlanta to Houston for treatment because it was the best in the U.S. for cancer of the esophagus, what he had. And my favorite moment was sitting with him after his surgery and just talking about things that matter. But we didn't talk about the cancer. We talked about optimism. We talked about persistence. And we talked about tomorrow because I flew down for him. And when I walked into the room, he tried to get out of the hospital bed after the surgery with these IVs and everything because he wanted to hug me.

2:03:28And then we talked about everything but cancer for two days. And two years later, the cancer won. I remember.

2:03:41You're amazing, Tom. That was crazy. Love you, Tom. It's like, ask me these questions, man. It's hard. Tom, thank you for being vulnerable. No, it's hard. It's hard to lose a parent at 60. And I know there's another guy I know right now is hurting because he lost his mom at 60 and a half. And this is something that now we both share that I was trying to encourage him a little bit with. Yeah. Vinny, what would you say? from from what he what what i remember lessons and favorite moment um because i'm well i'm gonna take it and i'm gonna bring it down to this because me and tom share my dad died at 53 almost 54 years old i was 19 i remember getting the news i was protecting a missile while they were working on it my mom calls and goes listen fyi he has it don't worry about it he's gonna have chemo so they kind of downplayed and then three months i'll get to that part really quick but because he could Mind you, my dad spoke five languages, fluent.

2:04:40Syrian, Farsi, Russia. My father was that guy, okay? Composer, music, math, whiz, okay? Loved all his friends. The only thing he really told, there's one thing that always stuck out, and he said, you tell me who your friends are, and I'll tell you who you are. That's one of the main things. Another one that he said was, money is a very good thing, but a very good thing isn't money. Those are two things that always. Wow. My dad said that. Money is a very good thing, but a very good thing isn't money. Those are two things that I remember. Favorite memory. Favorite memory. I don't know last week you shared that picture.

2:05:11That was wild. The picture is deep. But favorite memory ever. Oh, man. Fondest. I'm going to try. Oh, man. I'm going to try to hold it together too, Tom. He went out and he drank. And me and my brother shared the same room, TV. I'm sitting there watching TV and it's late and I shouldn't be watching TV. I heard him come in, drunk, you know, door coming in. So I'm sitting there and I'm pretending that I'm sleeping, Pat. and I've only told a few people this comes into my room doesn't go to my brother's bed comes to my bed and I know he's drunk I could smell it and I could never showed emotion no hugging no kissing to us just stayed there with me for like a minute kissed me on my head got up and he left and I pretended I was sleeping the whole time and I never woke up to tell him like what was I going to do wake up and be like hey dad I know that you're drunk and that you're here never could show the emotion when he was sober but I'm saying when he was around but in this moment he came home and it was the weirdest thing because I just stayed sleeping.

2:06:07What was I going to do? Do you remember him? I 100 % remember and my brother was passed out. Vicky was passed out but I shut the TV off and pretended I was sleeping. And one of the hardest things Tom was, Pat when I tell you like how you are with math, how he is with math, my dad was so amazing. Like I would, I'd go in the back of the book to see the math, like to test, see if he was right. One day the answer in the back was wrong and he's like no, no, that's wrong. I went to school and I tell the teacher, I go, hey, just to let you know, this is wrong in the back. And my math teacher was like, how the hell did you figure that out?

2:06:40And I didn't want to be like, oh, my dad was doing my homework for me. But she gave me credit for that. But the worst is when this three months I go to visit when the doctor tells my mom, you should have your kids come now because this is not going to end good. It went from lung. He smoked three packs a day. From lung to brain to bone. My dad went from looking 53 to looking 90, lost all the hair and everything, Pat. And one of the hardest things is when I was there for the two weeks before he passed, and I'm sitting there, and I'm in the recovery. They're trying to see if he's, because the brain cancer was like a sheet on his head, and I saw it on the x-ray.

2:07:17Pat, the nurse is trying to do simple math with my dad. I'm talking about five plus five, and I'll never forget. She's like, okay, Mr. Oshana, five plus five. and he gives me the look and he's like he doesn't know and at the last week he didn't even know who I was because this pressed on his brain so hard at the end my father had no idea who I was or who we were and my mom was in that room sleeping in the hospital every single day for months Pat and the day that he died he wasn't eating anything he told her go shopping with my sister go shopping and go get food and that was the moment that he passed and I walked in with my brother like the last breath, I walked into the room when that happened.

2:08:00So, yeah, kind of rough. Anyway, how's your mask skills these days? I'm doing gooder than you. But we got to get that picture for you, man. Yeah. Your dad. Respect on that. Oh, you want me to ask this? What about you? What's the question? Fondest memory. Fondest memory. Well, how do I summarize this? My dad was not a role model, but he was an example. Showed me maybe who I wanted to be and who I don't want to be. But we always bonded about sports. I remember when the Marlins beat the Yankees. I think it was maybe 2001. 2002 maybe. We always bonded about sports. We could always get, you know, if there was a heat game on or like a Michigan Wolverine game on because my dad's from Detroit or even a Pistons game.

2:08:52We always bonded about sports. There's my dad right there. Oh, wow. That's the first time I've ever seen your dad. Yeah, that was him. He always had a knee brace on. He had heart issues. He had a lot of stuff. I'll just tell you this. I think what I learned with my relationship with my dad, I never blocked my dad. You know how you can block someone on your phone? I thought about it for years, blocking the guy. Because it was always drama. And I never blocked him. The only time I did block him was 2019 when my girl was dealing with cancer and it was very hard on me. This would have been that summer because she got diagnosed with cancer July 4th.

2:09:35So that whole summer he was like, he was like doing very ill. He was blaming me that she got cancer. I'm like, dude, you're just, you're blocked. And I remember he was leaving me voicemails. and then my mom called me and uh she's like you know your father died and I was like what I thought she met my stepfather because he was actually in worse shape than my dad my mom knows how to pick him when it comes to health um went to the funeral and uh it was very uh what's the word cathartic because you get to speak publicly I literally did stand-up comedy and did a eulogy all in one and the crowd was crying and laughing and shedding tears and and and and cracking up and it was amazing and that was the the best and worst I ever felt and it's been the best feeling on me forever eventually I I checked uh my phone and I had so many missed calls and voicemails and they were a lot of them were very negative and uh it was uh time and place he was my dad and and now moving into another chapter of my life without him.

2:10:46And he's taught me, I'll end on a positive note. He taught me a lot about work ethic because this guy could barely get out of bed. He had cerebral palsy and a lot of health issues, but he worked every day and I respect that. So thanks, Pops. Everybody's got a different story. And everybody, you know, when you go through it, I have my own issues as well with family. When you're talking family, you and I, Vinny, we've spoken. You know who picked your dad and your mom? God did. For a reason. You may not know for a long time. Good, bad, ugly, he picked them. For me, with my dad, it's any time. Any time we're together, I've enjoyed the company.

2:11:32The time we're at a wedding in Glendale, and this Russian family is like, Gabriel, we had so much alcohol that day at this wedding because these guys wouldn't let us. Finally, he's like, we've got to get out of here. Your dad was drinking? Gabriel got drinking. How many shots? We're at a Russian wedding because I used to date a Russian girl. Listen, we had such a good time at that wedding, but my dad said, if we don't leave tonight, we're going to be hospitalized. Were you both drinking together? Are you kidding me? The way we're in the car leaving, I can't even tell you how we got home. Wait, how many shots did he drink?

2:12:11Papa Gabriel. I had no idea. Stop it. I'm not joking with you. I had no idea your dad got down like that. Their blood is actually made out of vodka. But your dad's not Russian. But he knows that. But that day was like horrible. I have a newfound respect for Papa G. No, to us, the first Hawaii trip we went to in February of 2004, Manny Soto and I were talking about this the other day. and how we looked at a tuna salad. It was$20. I said, I'll put$10 if you want a$10. That's the kind of money we have. And I would go to a local Walmart and buy bread and cheese and ham just to have sandwich in the morning.

2:12:46I was that broke. But we were in the back, and my dad said, you know, I could live in Hawaii one day. I said, you know what? You know, it was kind of like first time my dad was dreaming or the last moment when we're leaving Iran, and he puts a necklace or he gives me something for me to think about because this is a guy I wanted to be around my entire life. Gypsy King concert. Wrote a bunch of different things. But special guy. But no matter who it is, folks, whatever you're doing, call your dad, send him a message, ask him how you're doing. You would be surprised by this. So let me read this last manect before I shut it down and get off.

2:13:18I got a manect from a man in Australia. He says, my name is Leon. I'm from Australia. My parents and I enjoy listening to your podcast and your co-host, all of them, Adam, Tom, and Vinny. My dad, Frank, has stage four pancreatic cancer. He was on chemo for quite a while and was not doing well, but the situation has changed since. And after meeting with the doctors today, his options may become limited. Despite the diagnosis, both of my parents have been very supportive and positive as they keep saying, think positive and be positive. I'm very grateful to God for giving him the best parents I could have ever asked for.

2:13:55If possible, it would be very much appreciated if you and the team could send a message to him and keep him in your thoughts on the neck back. I said, instead of sending a message back, we're saying it here. Frank, wherever you are, sir, out of Australia, respect you for staying positive. Leon, good for you for, you know, praising your dad and giving him credit. You know, you are part of the lucky few of having great parents who are setting a great example for you. And may God be with you. You're in our prayers. And hopefully you get better, God willing, and we'll get a chance to meet you one of these days.

2:14:28We got a lot of people from Australia that follow the content. But much love and prayers your way, sir, Frank, as well as Leon. Much love to you as well. They wanted to hear from everybody here. Frank, Leon, God bless you guys. Ruin and praying for you. Thank you all the way from Australia. Gang, have a good day. Go Yankees. We'll do this again Friday. Take care. God bless. Bye-bye.

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