PBD PODCAST MIDTERMS LIVE | with 2026 🇺🇸 Election Results, Breaking News & Guests

0:18All right, we're live. For everybody joining us out there, whether you're on YouTube, C-SPAN or a live audience, make some noise. You look great here Everybody's one There's some people that have the face Let me tell you what the face looks like They're like, Pat, is it going to be a good night, bad night, bloodbath What's going to happen? I just talked to, what do you call it, an anarchist very named Jake And they got a big smile on their face Nobody knows what's going to happen tonight I was having dinner with a couple of our friends At a beautiful wedding Sean had on his wedding last week And I'm sitting next to his pole dresser So who's going to win, who's going to lose?

0:53Is this Pat? Whether some people are saying this person's going to win is red or is blue. It's going to be a toss-up all night. We'll find out. We kind of give you guys what to expect on who we have with us here tonight. Timeline, number one. At 6 p.m., Kentucky and Indiana. We're going to find out what happens. They're partial. 7 p.m. is Georgia and South Carolina. Tom's going to have an update for us here in a minute. Everybody make some noise for Sexy Thomas Ellsworth in the house. He's going to be on the other side at the VT Decision Desk. Sharing some of the data. 730 is Carolina, North Carolina, Ohio.

1:248 p.m. is Maine, Florida, Pennsylvania, Texas, Michigan. Then we got Arkansas, then Iowa, Wisconsin, 9, Arizona, New York, Michigan, Texas, final. Nevada, Montana, Utah, then California is 11, and Washington, 11. Hawaii, Alaska, midnight, Alaska, final one. We will not be here for Alaska. Alaska, all the good people in Alaska, all the great Dan Sullivans in Alaska. There's like 17 Dan Sullivans to all of you. Dan Sullivan, J, S, whatever game you guys are playing. and then special guests we have here tonight of course our panel with Tom Adam is here what is Adam doing here well we got Adam Vinny Elon Snyder we got Lindy Lee in the house that we're gonna have Andrew Wilson with us here tonight Ben Burgess for some of you guys don't know Ben Burgess he's a socialist philosopher is he somewhere here I can't wait to have him up on the stage we have a good time then we have Brian Calum where's Brian Calum from hangover he's Somewhere around here drinking all the liquor.

2:19Keep drinking, buddy. We got C.J. Pearson. We got the great be like Poland. Dominic Tarczynski is at the house. Where's Dominic at? He's somewhere around here doing his thing. I think he's still in the back getting makeup on. Emily Wilson. I probably shouldn't have said that, Dominic. It's okay. You look good. Francis Suarez. Mayor Suarez. The sexy Mayor Suarez will be here tonight. And then we have James Fishback. James O 'Keefe. Jared Moscovitz is going to show the Democratic congressman who's actually on the ballot. He's going to be here tonight. snyder's on jared turner who by the way she flew a last minute yesterday uh and ken paxton insider i had her flying i said i want to kind of give you the inside if you can share with some of the audience she's going to be here with us as well she's somewhere in the room and then we got michael francis he should be here if you go up to him whatever you say don't piss him off but he's going to be in the room as well mickey maize anybody knows mickey maize the the guy that plays cards casino he's going to give a different angle paul renner the former speaker of the house for the state of Florida.

3:16He's here as well. And then we got Randy Fine, Robert Dobby, Roger Stone, Steve O from Jackass. If you know Steve O, you may be joining us as well. Fika Fry, Will Whitman, and Pierce Morgan, Bill O 'Reilly. I think a bunch of people will be. Stephen A. Smith. We may have Clem Beck, you know, Cenk Yoker. We're going to have some very interesting people giving their perspective. And we may have a couple surprises as we're going through this as well. Now, a couple numbers to share with you before we get started. Early ballot voting, record-breaking, Tom. 59 million people have already casted their votes for the midterm.

3:51This has never happened before. Texas, 7.7 million. Florida, 5.4 million. Carolina, 2.83. North Carolina, California, 6.66. Georgia, 2.83. Michigan, 2.31. And there's a lot of things. The president was on a campaign trail, 30 different stops he had. He's on the road making his last presentation. Even today, I think He said something that's got a lot of people on Twitter excited about. He said, you know what? We're going to stop the funding for Israel. Did you guys hear that one? What he said today? Sean, I see if that's going to work. It's not going to work. Anyways, they're trying every single thing.

4:23And if it goes his way, everybody here is getting$5 ,000 apparently, which this crowd here doesn't need$5 ,000. They need to give$5 ,000, but that's a different story. So, Tom, your opinion, a lot of people are thinking, do you think it's going to be a bloodbath? Do you think it is going to be something where Democrats are going to sleep, both the House and the Senate? Can we turn on time, please? Well, I think it goes without saying right now that we're seeing where the House is. I think the House is done. It's just a matter of fact. You're saying it's done? I think the House is done. At 7 p.m., it's done?

4:57Well, I think, you know, and that's just where it is. The question is going to be how far above 230 seats is it on the Democrat side at the House? Now, the Senate is going to be far more exciting. There's some very tight races out there, and you've got all the polling, all the prognosticators, everybody wants to go, but then you have a lot of turnout, man, that's going to happen in places like Kansas, Texas, South Carolina, Darlene Graham. And there's a lot that's there. And so some exit polls and places, there's places in Kentucky exit polls that are showing there is a bit of a blue shift. But that's early, only about 15 % of precincts reporting.

5:35So I'm feeling the blue move, but I'm not really ready to call a tsunami yet. But I'm feeling it. You want to work with me up there in a minute so you can kind of give us an idea what the seven-centered race is. So it looks like, Lindy, your thoughts for you. Do you have a different perspective than what Tom is thinking? I am sorry, but I don't. I think Tom is right. And, I mean, how many times do we say that Thomas is right? He's generally right. You've got to stop because it's really getting him a little bit too confident. He's going to raise every single day, and honestly, it's cost me a lot of money.

6:01Awesome. I get it from a different perspective. Can you guys hear me? I'm a former fundraiser, so for me, it's a money game. And this race costs more than$11.5 billion. That's more than any other race in American history. And this is a midterms, mind you. So there's so much money pouring in at this point. We're kind of at a saturation point. So the question is, why are people still spending money on ads that may not even work? It's because neither side wants to be the first to unilaterally disarm. And so that's why you have Elon Musk pouring$158 million into Texas alone. $158 million. That's more than both sides combined.

6:43Let me tell you right now, I don't know what's going to happen in Texas, but I do know that if Ken Jackson pulls it off, it's going to be due to one man. And that name is Elon Musk.

7:20be the first person ever to put a billion dollars into a campaign ever. He'll do that in 2028. And between 2026 and 2028, if you think who they're going to be investigating nonstop, making one man's life a living hell, I don't think it's going to be Trump. I think Musk's life is going to be a living hell for the next 24 months because they know a billion dollars is coming in from one person. Elon, where are you at with this? Yeah, I'm on the same page as... Is anybody different? Does anybody have a different angle? I do, sir. Let's hear what you gotta see. Well, my number one focus is Florida.

7:53Can we mute Adam's mic? We'll keep going. Here, even if I might have a different opinion, I believe that we live, collectively great-looking people here, that we live and operate in the best city, in the best state, in the best country in the world. So, I don't know what's going to happen in Texas. I don't know what's going to happen with Tala Franco or Syed. I'm just so thankful that We're here in South Florida, and I've gone all in on Byron Donaldson. We're going to see what happens with that. But I do believe that the pollsters tend to go a little bit to the left, so I'm hoping and praying that they're wrong.

8:31We'll see. Yeah, I don't think there's much of a chance for the House, though. I do think the Senate is still a potential toss-up. But either way, I think it's a good wake-up call wherever it ends up for us to just look at the messaging that's been working and resonating with Americans. With the messages, but also the actions. I mean, listen, I'm worried. Our future looks bright. no matter what, I don't see, bro, I don't put my trust in politicians or left or right. I believe in God. My faith is in God, so we're always going to be all right no matter what. We win. That's number one. But number two, we have to admit, but the House, we heard the House was lost.

9:01Everybody was telling me this wasn't like a surprise. The Senate is a little bit of a shift. But you have to be honest, what are the main things that people are focusing on, bro? Affordability is ridiculous. More than a lot of people. It's not just a small fringe. We're like, Why do we do it? Midnight hammer? Okay, go in, take out their nuclear capability. But going this way, and people gas, Pat made a great point last week. What was the stat kind of people looking at the gas prices? 64 % in 08 that they vote, it's in votes based on what the gas prices are. They walk outside and look at the gas and they go, I'm voting for the people that didn't do this.

9:34Can I do something with that? I want to show you something. I want to show something that everybody out there is going to be shocked with. Every day we hear about how high the gas prices are. Yes or no? Make some noise if you heard that before. From median end to the point that some of us are convinced. My God, the gas prices are so high. Now, this is what I want you to do. Pull up the chart for me, please. I have the guys pull up these numbers. Watch this here, folks. Today, gas prices today is$4.14. If we go back in history and we adjust it for inflation, Vinny, I want you to take a look at this.

10:04If you adjust it for inflation today, what is that number based on some of the numbers? 2012, it was$7.35. Who was president in 2012? That was Obama. Barack Obama. If you go back and look at 2014, 602, who was president in 2014? That was Barack Obama. If you go to 2022, it was$5. Who was president in 2022? Joseph. Joseph Biden. If you go to – so if you look at these numbers and you see what's going on, you have to say credit to the marketers that have been able to exaggerate some of the crisis because if there's one thing that I think the Trump administration has dropped the ball on is the following.

10:43The moment we were, how many of us three years ago, all we thought about the border, how many of you guys were concerned about the border, security as parents, as a father, as a husband, you're like, hey, we got a securities number one. Boom, the border's closed, and they don't talk about that massive accomplishment that they had for two years. The border's, wait a minute, that wasn't, nobody brought it up. So as bad as some people say things are, got to give credit for how good of a job the other side has done with fear porn, scaring the crap out of everybody. Yeah, but you know, it's super easy to forget about a win.

11:12You know, let's say you're really sick and you finally get better. Within a year, you forgot about the trauma you went through. And it's the same kind of thing that happens in politics. That is true. What the left did, which is very good, which is what you just touched on, is they hold Trump accountable for the current situation with gas prices. That didn't happen under Obama. That didn't happen in the past. Everyone in the past used to put out the messaging that the president's not directly responsible for gas prices, that there's numerous other factors at play. They took the Iran war, they directly connected it to gas prices.

11:38Brilliant. Two emotional things. Brilliant. Both of them are highly emotional, yeah. But, Eli, this thing is not just about gas prices. Take the other side here. This is not just about gas prices. Are we hearing Jeff? Yeah, could you? Am I on? Is Jeff's mic on? Hello. It's not just about gas prices. Gas prices is just kind of like the last thing. It's kind of gotten to the, you know, most voters, it's the last straw. We've been sick of this crap for year after year after year after year. Trump came into office and said, I'm going to fix this. This is Biden's problem, and as far as most people are concerned, gas prices is just the straw that broke the camel's back.

12:13Okay, so let's do this. Do we have our friend Jeremy on yet or not? Has he called in? If you guys can let me know once he gets on time. While we're going through this, can you show us the seven states and what it's looking like as of right now? The main Senate raises. I'm not talking about the battle of the ladies in L.A. that you're obsessed with. I'm talking specifically. It's an inside joke for some of you guys. I can't tell you what happened there. It's earmuffs, but go ahead, Tom, please. So where we are right now, let's take a look. This is the balance of power as we see it. 34 at the beginning of the night were open.

12:44And so right now we're 31 Republicans and 35 Senate before they come in. We have one call. We're making a call based on VT analytics. We're calling Virginia. Mark Warner, 54 % of the vote in, and he is well up in Virginia. So we are calling Mark for Virginia Senate. So right now that's one. Is that a surprise, by the way? That is not a surprise. That is right on cue. So you're calling that. That's it. Yep, and I'm calling that. Now, let's go to the seven. We're going to go to the U.S. map, and we're going to go through the seven that are there. So now, let me show you the distance here. First, let's go down to Florida and take a look.

13:20We have Moody. And you've got, let me get out of the way here. She's 51-47, and we are sitting at what percent in? This is 7.5%. And so it's right about what we have expected. You would have expected a higher margin for her. Now let's go to South Carolina.

13:42By the way, you said Moody, right? Moody's a Republican. Moody's a Republican. Do you know who just endorsed Moody earlier today? I do not. For the first time ever? the president of the union teamster sean o 'brien who's been four generation of democrats he endorsed ashley moody today which a lot of people were shocked with please continue that's good he also spoke at the rnc yes he did he's phenomenal he's phenomenal so he likes italian food which i like as well there we go let's go to georgia good guy okay and we go to georgia and you can see take a look at this you have in here 800 000 votes have been counted.

14:19And look at where Ossoff is sitting here. Now, you don't have as much of the red rule Georgia in, but this shows you exactly where we are. Do we have the shifts? If we can look at the shift. Take a look at this. The blue arrows show shifts different from Trump 2024. Look at the blue arrows. There's no red arrows in Georgia. So at no place right now with 800 ,000 votes in in Georgia, which is not a trivial amount. Nowhere in Georgia is it as good as Trump performed in 2024. The shift is on. Where else do we have votes in? We have votes in in Kentucky, which is not really much of a surprise right now.

15:02There we go. So you can see Andy Barr handily ahead as expected in Kentucky. That's what's going on in the early ones is where we We have precincts reporting, and we have votes here. The surprise to me is the level of distance that John Ossoff has versus even the most conservative reporting and polls that were out there. He's, with 800 ,000 votes in, more margin than was originally expected. And by the way, he's somebody that's very aspirational, that he wants to go to the next phase of being a president potentially in 2028. And by the way, there's two things we're going to have. We're going to have some fun tonight, that's for sure.

15:38but one thing that we're going to be doing is the following. I got two reports that I had the guys pull up based on data points that we're going to share with you. One is I have our top 50 people with the highest score of running for president based on seven markers, name recognition, charisma, media savvy, fearlessness, somebody that can absorb controversy, authenticity, independence, and free publicity. We scored all of them using AI, and you're going to be surprised who ranked first place. And this is from Roger Stone. We call this the stone scale. We'll share this with everybody tonight. And then I have the next bench, 40 under 40 in politics from the left and the right.

16:15These two lists, everybody that's watching this will text. I'll tell you how to get a hold of them. I'm going to show it to you first, then we'll talk about it. It's going to be fascinating. But who we have that just joined us right now is the former co-founder of Daily Wire. We have Jeremy Boring from the Jeremy Boring Show. Jeremy, it's great to have you on. How are you doing? Pat, thanks for having me on. Fantastic. So, Jeremy, what are you thinking? What angle do you have right now? There's a lot of people that are saying, my goodness, it's going to be a nasty night. The left is going to be winning.

16:42They're going to be investigating Trump. They're going to be going after Hexer. They're going to be going after Musk. What are you thinking about? I'm thinking about the Senate. You know, the fact that we're going to lose the House, I think, is a given. It's gone. It goes without saying, in the last hundred years, almost every midterm, the president has lost, the president's party has lost seats in all but three, I think. So that's just, that's par for the course. You're going to lose seats in the House. It's not necessarily the case that we're going to lose the Senate, but things don't look good.

17:09If we lose the Senate, terrible night for the president, terrible night for Republicans, because it means the next two years are essentially going to be a referendum on Donald Trump going into the 2028 presidential election. That's not what we want. We don't want you paint that picture for me, Jeremy, endure these investigations. We don't want the party having to endure. Jeremy, can you hear me? Yeah, I want you to paint a picture for me. Let's go there. OK, let's play this game. The game is they won House and they won the Senate. What do the Democrats do? Well, the good news for the country is not much.

17:40They're not going to be able to advance any sort of policy agenda because you can't get past the president's veto. But for the Republican Party and for the president in particular, it's going to be terrible. It's going to be investigations nonstop as they try to make 2028 a referendum on Donald Trump instead of a new election about a new set of candidates in the future for both parties. got it so when it comes down to out of all the races that we have going on you got tallarico paxton you got stuff going on in la you got the race in carolina you got the race in michigan which of the ones are you most concerned about meaning if you can only take one of the two you can take paxton winning but abdul losing or abdul winning and paxton losing which one of those two would you take you need paxton to win losing texas hasn't elected a democrat to nationwide wide office in a generation to lose Texas, which is an essential part of any map for Republicans would be, I think, the worst possible outcome for the night.

18:39And listen, it's not just that you could see Paxton lose a Senate race. If things go badly enough, you could see Abbott loses governor race, which would be a true watershed moment in American politics. It would make this more than just a bad midterm. It would make it a deeply consequential midterm. And because why? Because Texas is Texas because everybody's always seen that the left can never. I think the last time we had a Democratic senator win Texas was 36 or 38 years ago, but we've never had a Muslim senator in the history of America. So both of them are our first. Well, certainly having Abdul El-Sayed become senator from Michigan is a terrible moment for the country.

19:18But having a radical Democrat win a Senate seat in Michigan isn't in and of itself scandalous. That is a thing that can happen. And the fact that he's Muslim obviously makes that unique. The fact that he openly aligns with socialists makes that unique. But to lose Texas destroys the map for Republicans going into 2028. And that, I think, is a far more consequential outcome for the night. Just out of curiosity, you know, did you hear the interview? I thought Stephen A. Smith did a great job with the interview with Governor DeSantis. Did you get a chance to watch a couple of the clips of that interview?

19:48What did you think of the positions he took? Do you think that was a position of kind of separating himself that I'm a little bit different than the current administration kind of lobbying for running in 2028? Well, it definitely means that the race for 2028 has already started. And listen, it'll be a very bad night for J.D. Vance if we if we lose not only the House, but the Senate, because it means that the administration is going to be on its hind leg for the entirety of the next two years. It means that an outsider has a better than average chance. Listen, it's J.D. Vance's nomination to lose.

20:21That goes without saying. The vice president in almost every, not every instance, but in almost every instance in the last century, if they have sought the nomination, their party's nomination, they've received it. And 2028 is certainly a bad year automatically, historically, for Republicans. You know, in all but one election in my lifetime, after a second-term president, we change parties. That's just what happens sort of naturally. George H.W. Bush obviously is the one exception to that. But in the age of Donald Trump, I think all the old rules are off. Anything could happen. If we hold the Senate tonight, I think that the administration is actually in a pretty decent shape going into 2028.

20:59If we lose the Senate tonight, it's going to be a terrible next two years. Well, Jeremy, thank you for joining us. Have a cigar on us, and I'm sure I'll see you here soon. Take care, buddy. Thank you, Pat. Do you guys agree with him? Do you agree with what he has to say? P.B.D., I got to jump right in and mention this. I want to be explicit as to what Democrats are going to do if they retake the House and the Senate. It's going to be one impeachment after another. It's going to be ruthless. They've been ramping up for these investigations for the past year. It's going to be Trump. It's going to be Trump.

21:27It's going to be Pam Bondi. It's going to be Pete Hegseth for administering this war in Iran. And it's going to go back to what you said earlier, Elon Musk. And what are they going to go after Elon first? It's a starlink over Ukraine. They are so pissed that somebody suspended Starlink in the middle of a war, and Democrats want to use whatever they can to make sure that they are boosting their chances for 2028. Everything is political. They don't have a positive agenda. I know. I was there. So they're going to spend all their time on law. Okay, let me push back. Let me push back. Here's what Hillary Clinton said.

22:01The great Hillary Clinton, who just had a birthday. I'm sure you guys celebrated her birthday a week ago. Future president. October 26th, future president. So she said if the Democrats go after the Trump administration and they go in the mode of impeach, impeach, impeach, you're handing the 2028 presidency to the Republicans. Do you agree? They can't help themselves because they're addicted to Trump. They can say that they hate Trump, but I'm telling you now, they're not going to fundraise a single dollar if Trump isn't in the subject email line. They need that man. Do you agree? Do you guys agree?

22:30Who agrees? How many of you guys think they're going to think the long way and not do anything because they want to win presidency 2020? Make some noise for that. Not a lot. So you think they're going to go after everybody they want? They want to send a message, too. I've got to tell you, this is a very cynic group. Get them some alcohol, folks. They're a little bit cynical. Go ahead. Can I just say one thing? But as you said, that was very much how I saw it. It could be kind of a silver lining in all of this, that they're overlooking the average independent voter who's very, very relevant, who got very, very tired of that kind of rhetoric, that kind of attack, that kind of obsession as opposed to focusing to any extent on policy.

23:06And if they start doing that now, before 2028, that could backfire on them. They could look at that and go, man, I don't want four years of this. I want four years of change. And if we're going back to the status quo of what we saw before Trump, which was just endless attacks and no change. Sorry, go ahead. No, no, no, you're right. But finish your point. No, my point was that that fundamentally can backfire very, very badly for you. I agree, but what she's saying, and I agree with her, is they can't help themselves, bro. It's all about Trump. What they don't realize is he's going to do exactly what Biden did.

23:37He's going to pardon himself and every single person that they're going after because they want to show the strength, bro. But he made a very good point, Pat, about DeSantis' interview today. Today marks the day where people are going to start separating themselves from the Trump, MAGA, everything movement. He said today, he's like, I disagree with the war. Yeah, he did not. And we're going to show a clip here in a minute. What I want to do is he separated himself. Separate like divide. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm talking about, like divide. So, by the way, make some noise for Vinny, Adam, and Ilan.

24:08I want to bring my next guest on board on here if we can. Can I get Mayor Suarez to come up? Brian Callen. And I believe we have Viva Frye. Do we have Viva Frye? Work your way up here to the stage. Mayor of Miami. He is beloved in Miami. Beloved in Miami, man. You're looking good. I'm seeing you working out. Okay. My man, how you doing? Not today, my man. Give me one of these. You look good. All right. So, Viva, Brian, Jeff, you stay on, by the way. Jeff, you stay on with us. Tom, do you have an update for us? All right. I'm going down. Can we get Tom on? Can we get Tom on? Tom? Yep. We have some numbers that just came in, and this is going to be very, very relevant since we have the dignified mayor emeritus of Miami.

24:51Francis Suarez is with us. Take a look at this. with 4.5 million votes in in Florida. Right now, David Jolly is 51-47 over Byron Donalds. It's thin. And as Mayor Suarez will tell you, the Florida panhandle tends to run very red and it's one time zone ahead. You kind of have to wait for it. So this is just early, Pat. We knew it would be closer in Florida than the big polls were predicting. But you can take a look right here. you can see where David Jolly 51, Byron Donalds 47.8 early, but over four and a half million votes have been counted in the state of Florida. Okay, so what does that mean?

25:33How do you process this? Do you think Byron Donalds is winning no matter what today? Yes, I do. And I think the reason why is people don't realize that Florida has two different time zones. So right now, people are still voting. It's actually 30 minutes before the polls close in the other time zone. So what we're seeing only is results from this time zone. And usually what happens for Democrats to win, they have to rack up the numbers in the tri-county area, which is Palm Beach, Broward, and Miami-Dade County. What I've seen from the turnout, when you analyze the turnout, which is very important, and there's a lot of talk about the fact that in the state of Florida, Governor DeSantis has racked up a million and a half vote advantage for Republicans.

26:15when you start analyzing the turnout the turnout of how Republicans have turned out versus other years or even even versus early and absentee ballots what we saw was a massive election day turnout so we were seeing as early as 9 a.m plus 22 for Republicans then it became plus 26 plus 27 and so statewide it went from plus two and a half pre-election day to plus eight at the last time that I saw when I was coming in the car. So let's assume, for example, that, and again, I'm getting really into the weeds, but let's assume, for example, that MPAs, which are a big category, 20 % of the electorate, non-party affiliation, independence, whatever you want to call them, let's assume that they break 60-40 in favor of Democrats.

27:01That's a massive break in favor of Democrats. More likely than not, it'll be more like 55-45, a 10 % break. That's still a big break in MPAs in favor of Democrats. But let's assume double that, right? 20 % they still lose by like 300 ,000 votes statewide. If you assume that all Republicans vote Republican and all Democrats vote Democrat, there's just not enough votes to make up. And by the way, you know, it's interesting you're saying that. Of the 58 million early votes that we got, 60 million early votes that we got, 43 % are Democrats, 32 % are Republicans, 25 % are independents. That's a pretty big number to get to a number like that.

27:35I want to show you something. I want to ask you a question. This morning I want to vote. I'm in Broward County. It's one of the biggest Republican counties here. So I go there to vote, and here's what happened to me this morning. I want to ask you how often this happens, and if anybody else out there watching this has experiences, please go ahead and play the clip. Can you play with the audio? It's tough to hear it if we don't have audio. Thanks, guys. You look good, though. Go back a little bit because I can't hear it, guys. Go back a little bit. Start from the beginning. Haircut looks great.

28:01You know, it's been the same gel all morning today, just so you know. Go ahead. Concrete, baby. Yes. In Broward County. Today is the first time that I go in there and they tell me you can't vote here. What do you mean I can't vote here? And they send me to a complete different location. Now, I'm going to go vote at the other location. How many people do you think don't go because the other place is 25 minutes away and people got things to do? So Joe Scott, what's his name, Joe Scott? Joe Scott, supervisor of the election. And Joe Scott's the one that's responsible for making the locations? Joe Scott is in charge of all things voting in Gallicott County.

28:34So if I've been coming here every year and all of a sudden I'm going to a different place, that means thousands of other people have to do the same. I'm a candidate running for state house in District 100. I've been here since 6 a.m. I've met dozens of people, supporters of mine. The only Republican district in Broward, the people being turned away at the polls. The only Republican district in Broward that's being pushed away. Ridiculous. Thanks, guys. I'm going to the other place. Please go vote. Yep. So anyways, I went to the other place and I voted. So you can pause the clip here. who all of us who had their addresses changed on where to go to vote anybody have to go to a different place to vote some of you guys who had a difficulty time voting this morning anybody when you went to place i had it who makes that decision is that somebody that just says now you're going to a different place yeah so so the supervisor of elections there's 64 counties in the state of florida each county has its own independent supervisor of election and those are the ones and by the way most of them are elected officials right and partisan officials so those partisan officials.

29:31Partisan elected officials. They run by party. Republican, Democrat. Right? And so those people are the ones that make decisions on what polling places are open, what time are they open, are there emergencies, etc. What we see, and I know that Governor DeSantis declared a state of emergency for I think five or six counties and empowered the division of elections, the department of elections, the supervisor to make decisions. But these kinds of things, particularly in tight elections, matter. The weather matters. Having to be deviated from your polling place matters. The time that the polling places closed matters.

30:05We just saw a Brazilian election where the Supreme Court, I don't know if you guys followed this, the Supreme Court, to favor the presidential candidate that won, left polling sites in favorable polling areas by two hours. That's a massive difference. And by the way, that election was, I think, 51.5 to 48.5. It was a tiny, tiny differential. So these kinds of things can make a difference. Is it effective when it comes down to it? Not necessarily. You know how the old Dan Sullivan guy in Alaska, when they have the same guy they found? Are these type of strategies, because this guy's a Democrat, Broward County, Joe Scott, who's the guy that runs the supervisor for elections here in Broward County.

30:43This is who it is if you want to put it on the screen so he can get a shout-out of what it looks like, just to kind of give him a shout-out. But are these strategies people play to kind of throw people off? Because a lot of people came in, they're like, I've got to go to work. I can't vote. Pat, I'll tell you, it gets so bad that there was a prior election cycle where someone went to jail for doing the exact same thing that's happening in Alaska right now. They put in what they call a phantom candidate, right, a candidate that's not really running. It's just meant to take away votes from someone else.

31:10And someone lost an election in that race, and the person went to jail. So, yes, these things happen. They do matter, and people do pay consequences for them. I have some thoughts in Florida, if I may. Please. All right. Brian, I'm going to come to you right afterwards. I'm coming from this from a money standpoint. Everybody here knows about 10 % for the big guy, right? Everyone is familiar with that? There's something else, though. There's 15 % for the big grift. And what I mean by that, these consultants, political consultants, make 15 % of each, every single dollar of ad buy. And I think Republicans are going to hold on to Florida.

31:46But the reason why Democrats are pouring hundreds of millions of dollars into this great state is that they are making 15 % of each dollar that you see on TV. That is so much money. That is so much money. And this is something that American people aren't entirely aware of. But I want you to be aware of that when you see ads on TV and you wonder why there's an ad for a Democrat in Palm Beach County. It's not because they think they can win. It's because somebody is buying that ad to fund their next yacht. Okay, so Brian, how do you feel about this? I was just thinking about how the United States is one of the few countries in the world where a voting day is not a national holiday.

32:26It's a very rare thing, and it's interesting. Why is it that we don't have a national holiday? Why does everybody have to work when most countries give everyone the day off so everybody can work? The fact of the matter is if you work for a living, you may have a very hard time getting to a polling booth. And I think that's very significant. I suspect the Republicans wouldn't favor very well. So a lot of times people say they would never let that happen. You know, it probably wouldn't be very favorable to the Republicans for a lot of reasons. But to your point about money, I'm always so blown away by how optimistic Americans are.

33:04Because I look at the grand – so I think at the end of the day when I see this kind of voter turnout, what I interpret that is – I interpret that as voter anger. and everybody is desperate for one party to turn that voter anger into results. That's just what we want because nobody really feels like their government represents them. Do you feel represented? That's a new thing and it gets worse and worse. With all that money, people with deeper pockets are the ones that sway everything. And it's very easy to feel as though your vote doesn't matter, but I'm always heartened by the fact that Americans are angry enough to go out there and go, hey, this may mean nothing, but I'm going to vote anyway.

33:42But at the end of the day, I think really it's the party that can somehow turn voter anger into results is the one that's going to prevail. And I always fight my pessimism when I'm on nights like this. I'm always like, all right, you know, same old, same old. We'll see what happens. You talk about voter anger, and I think this cycle is going to be about voter disappointment. And for anybody who doesn't know, I moved down from Canada under Biden. And I say this unequivocally, the United States is the greatest country on earth, even when it's under the bad administration. And so, you know, I came down during Biden, lived here while Biden was, you know, ruling over the country, persecuting the Jan Sixers and everything, and living under the fear of, you know, what happens if it's Kamala Harris in 2026, or 2024, sorry.

34:29And I think I'm not blackpilled, I'm not doom-pilled, I'm not pessimistic. Tonight, I'm just realistic that you're going to see some of the blowback from people who don't feel that necessarily that the current administration has responded to what they were supposed to respond to. You know, Florida may it stay red because it's the greatest state in the union. I'm talking about Texas also. Like if Tallarico wins in Texas, you don't just have blowback. You have an indication as to what needs to be course corrected for 2028. But, you know, Florida should stay red. It's the most beautiful state in the most beautiful country on earth.

35:03And even if there's something of a blue wave tonight, this is still the greatest country on earth, even when it's run by scoundrels. I want to ask Lindy something, because Lindy, you know this deeply. We've talked about this. Why is it that we're always given these sort of two candidates that we can barely stomach? How does it happen? Is it because people don't vote in the primaries? Is that the problem? Explain to me how that works. I have a one-word answer for the Republican side. I have a slightly more long-winded one for the Democrat one. For the Republican side, it's all about loyalty. It's all about loyalty to Trump.

35:35Putting that aside. For me, 2026 is a normalization of weird. And that's what I mean by that. Let's go to New Hampshire, for instance. You have some guy named Joy Jackson. I kid you not, fathered two kids with his second cousin. In the year of the Lord, 2026, and somehow we're supposed to be okay with that? All right, that's Maine. That's Maine. And then we go down to Texas. James Tallarico disappears for 12 days. We're not allowed to ask about it. This is the same guy who says that God is non-binary. He had the flu. He had the flu. It's a long flu. Letting you know there was flu-ish. If you were sick, you know you would be working hard as F.

36:19You would be putting videos out there. You'd be fundraising. PBD doesn't get sick. He didn't get sick. They had to hide the guy. Maybe I would visit a mental hospital for 11 days. I mean, I don't know. So, you know, there's rumors you hear on what places people go. I'm not speculating. I'm just saying, like, a possibility. But go ahead, continue. I don't want to interrupt. But anyway, he says there are six genders, all right? And he's a vegan in the state of Texas. Putting that aside, all right? I have one more. Abdullah El-Sayed, all right? This man, his own sister, says that their entire family is, quote, unquote, MB.

36:53You know what that stands for? Muslim Brotherhood. And he says every time we ask about it, we're Islamophobic. No, dude. It's basic vetting. Get over it. And it's not just that. His mother was a longtime activist for the Muslim Brotherhood. His father-in-law was one of the leaders of the Muslim Brotherhood and happens to be one of his biggest donors. So, again, this is what I call this cast of characters. They're all extremely weird and questionable. What does that say that they're likely to win? What does that say about the mood of the electorate? because American people don't support these people in some of those extreme examples and some of those extreme positions.

37:29What it says is this is not just we're a little bit upset about the way things are going. This should be a wake-up call to Republicans, and maybe they actually need it. But Syed talks to them. I understand. But Syed also talks to them. But in a normal election, would he even have a chance? Well, but the problem is Syed is very personal. What he says is, hey, capitalism, all for it, not crony capitalism. How about the fact that you can't afford to, you have to choose between gas and food, or you have to choose between sending your kid to baseball. Why does that message resonate? I speak in my language, so I don't care who you are.

38:01I'm telling you why it's resonating. This is my hot take, and you can be angry at me, but this is how I genuinely feel, and I'm here to be painfully honest, okay? If Trump had not gone to war, he'd be running away with the election today. That's how I feel. That's just how I feel. The last thought I want to get from the mayor, and then I got a few Gen Z's here. We want to process some Gen Z issues. Yeah. So my last thought is everything you said all makes a lot of sense. But there's also something that I've looked at very in depth and I don't think it's talked about a lot, which is candidate quality.

38:31If you look at the candidates and I'm sorry, and I'm not talking about whether you agree philosophically or ideologically with these candidates or not. But the four that you just mentioned, Abdul Zayed, Talariko, Mandami, even in New York, Ossoff in Georgia, what do they have in common? they're all young again my wife is here i love my wife but they're they're good looking good looking guys right they're they're telegenic they're articulate and they're incredibly on message incredibly on message if you listen as someone who has to respect like game respects game right i don't agree with anything any of their positions i i totally think their positions are abhorrent but at the end of the day they're incredibly on message and the message has been to your point right uh health care for all right the message has been corruption i mean that's the message that they're saying every single day and and they've been consistent and so what happens is they're running against candidates who are not exciting who are not young who are not articulate who are not on message right and and to your point they have to deal with the headwinds that some of these issues have created for them right so cost of living uh the the foreign war etc so i i think we have not really and i think this is where the wake-up call is for republicans you need to have like look byron donald is going to win tonight he's a young articulate you know good-looking candidate as well and someone who i think republicans should try to find candidates like that and i think that's how they're going to turn this around well listen if if looks matter you're going to be the supreme leader of the world all based on looks but here's what we're going to do i got i gotta make sure we got he's got to go to a different place i appreciate you for coming in Thank you so much for your commentary.

40:15Definitely. We have some young bucks here that want to give us some commentary on Gen Z. Let's make some noise for Mayor Suarez. Thank you, guys. Appreciate you. Thank you so much for stopping by. Appreciate you, brother, for follow-up. And Lindy and Jeff, if you guys can swap with them, I'll bring you guys back over here. Vivan, Brian, you guys stick around. You guys stick around. You guys are Gen Z. It's Gen Z. I said Gen Z. You guys got to stick around. So we have a couple friends here. We got Nick Shirley in the house. Make some noise for Nick Shirley, Will Witt, CJ Pearson, and Emily Wilson.

40:42Come on in here, guys. Grab a seat. Nick Shirley, great to see you. CJ, nice jacket. Emily, how are you? Do you want to grab a seat here, if you don't mind? Come on, Emily. Will Witt. Come on, Mr. Cool. He's just cool about it, right? The way he walks, like, he's in the wrong industry. He's mogging us. He's mogging us. He's mogging us is what he's doing. Okay, Gen Zs, what is at the top of your mind? What is the most important thing to you at this point going into 2027? Immigration. Immigration is number one for me. Tell me why. Because I see our country becoming... Is that a Gen Z issue or is that an America issue?

41:19It's definitely an America issue, but I think it's definitely a Gen Z issue for the fact that the people who are growing up right now, young people especially, are not going to be able to experience the country that our grandfather and grandmother had. This country is becoming unrecognizable in not just demographics, but you have people who don't speak the same language and we're supposed to have a cohesive country. That doesn't make any sense. You can't have a cohesive country if people don't have the same language, the same culture, the same values. And we don't have that in America anymore.

41:47And you look around the world, what's happening in France and all of that, and it's quite obvious what happens when you import the third world. And so we can't allow that to happen. And to me, immigration seems to be the biggest issue. One of the data that came up about Gen Z, it said that Gen Zers, 70 % of them are afraid of running out of money more than they're afraid of death, affordability. How important is that to you, CJ? I think it's a really critical issue. And I also think that the ownership issue is a big thing. Gen Z doesn't own anything anymore. So when people ask the question, why does Gen Z seem as if they want to burn it all down?

42:19It's because they have no stake in this country as it currently stands. They don't own their home. They don't own any property. They don't actually own stocks. And so when we as conservatives look to point to how good the economy is doing and we say, well, the stock market is doing really good. Well, they're like, damn, I don't own a stock. So they don't really actually feel any stake in that economic opportunity. How do you increase that? I think it's a few things. I think, number one, it's making it easier to buy a home, and I don't think it's actually socialist policies that do that. I think that it's actually deregulation that will increase housing supply that can increase access to that.

42:50But I also think it goes back to the foundational building blocks of what we're teaching in schools today. There's a reason we don't teach financial literacy in schools across America because they realize that if you learn the basics of financial literacy, you would never vote Democrat. You would never be socialist. So you think that's intentional? I think it's absolutely intentional. I think it's a key part of their agenda to indoctrinate the next generation of Americans. If you don't teach them how to actually build something of their own and to not be perpetual victims, they will vote Democrat.

43:16Or they might just be financially illiterate themselves. Exactly that. That's a large part of it. By the way, you know what's an interesting data that we just looked at from 2019, 2020? I can't find it here, but I'm sure I have it. From 2019, 2020 to 2023, do you know the public schools we've lost? 1.8 million kids going to the public schools. 1.8 million going to the public school to homeschooling whether it's homeschooling as well as birth like birth rate has dropped dramatically so going back to it emily do you agree with cj i agree with him 100 but i also agree with will i mean i live in los angeles and me and my friends are like we all have to become multi-millionaires to even buy a one bedroom condo and that's just not realistic for everyone but then at the same time i'll be somewhere like calabasas and it's beautiful but there's nine languages being spoke around me and I'm like, how are the kids supposed to grow up in these schools?

44:08And how are they going to have things in common? The crime is out of control. I mean, obviously, I think I live in the most beautiful state. It's the most poorly run. And I think mental health is a really big thing and border security, safety, crime is out of control. And my biggest issue right now is watching the other side of the political spectrum become so radicalized. I talked to my family and my father who supports and loves me. And I'm like, it's crazy to know that just because I'm a conservative and Republican, half of this country would be happy to see me die, and they would celebrate if it happened.

44:38And I think that's a big issue we need to talk about in this country, even though it's a little uncomfortable at times. Let me ask this question. So what needs to happen there for you to leave? Can they do anything to fully lose you? Are you there yet? Fully lose me from California? Yes. No, I'm staying and fighting. Communism, you're staying. I'm staying. We got to respect. Make some noise. She's out with the show. She's willing to stay for communism. Look, I get people have families and they leave, and I respect certain aspects of it. But we're seeing this across all the states we have all these people who vote republican that are common sense they're great they have businesses they have kids and they leave and i'm like well when you guys all leave who's left you're gonna give the most beautiful state to the craziest people that destroy it over my dead body i'm staying and i will never leave okay respect so now what's your solution affordability give me ideas give me two or three ideas on how to help with affordability because in my opinion neither side has a so one side is saying the government's gonna fix it the other side saying it's all on you which there's a certain level of responsibility but what ideas would you propose okay one affordability and somewhere like los angeles where everyone wants to live the odds of it going you're not going to see a house for 500 000 especially where i live it's just not going to happen but at the same time i'm like we gotta i don't i mean that's tough i don't know i i really don't know can i challenge you on that encourage all of you guys because one of the things i want to hear from gen z is we need ideas from you.

45:57I proposed something the other day and I send it to the president just to see if they would entertain this idea or not. My idea was anybody under the age of 30, for the first$200 ,000, I proposed a half a million, but let's just say$200 ,000. For the first$200 ,000 you make, you pay zero federal income taxes. So keep all that money, set it aside, save it, buy a house, have kids. After 30, whatever you pay, you go into the same tax bracket as everybody else, but it gives you a jumpstart. I would encourage you to come up with some ideas because people are listening today. You look like you have an idea you want to propose to us before I go to Nick.

46:30Yeah, there's tons of ideas for fixing affordability. I mean, first of all, again, talking about immigration. I mean, look, if you have two houses available and someone cuts in line illegally and comes and also needs a house, that's going to push up the prices of housing. So you have to stop illegal immigration. And with immigration, you know, this is also legal immigration, not just illegal immigration. You have a massive welfare state that Americans are net negative paying into the system and not getting anything out of it. In Minnesota with Somalians, I mean, you have 81 % of all Somalians in Minnesota are on one major welfare program, 75 % of all Hondurans, 76 % of all Dominicans, 87 % of all Afghanis in this country are on some major welfare program.

47:10So we are paying into a system that we are not getting anything out. If you want to fix affordability, stop giving the free handouts to people who are not Americans. That makes sense. Nick, you're all over the place. You're traveling all the time. You just got back, I think, from Brazil, right? And by the way, just so you guys know for some any brazilians in the room here make some noise if you're brazilian we got a few of them well eduardo bolsonaro is in the house tonight so we will bring him up here a minute as well his brother just flew into miami a couple weeks ago i think he may be talking the next couple days on what's going on where are you at with affordability and gen z yeah i think affordability is a really big issue i'd like to see all the fraud be taken out here inside the united states i think that's like a really big one and then the rise of the far left is also very concerning and i'm kind of disappointed to see what's happening right now with what's going on with it's like the midterm stuff because i think people are starting to forget like the far left killed charlie kirk and they also celebrated a mother who killed three of her kids and now we're going to elect people that openly support those maybe they don't support charlie kirk dying but some of these people glorify and speak with the same people who glorified the death of charlie kirk which is a bit concerning to see like the far left they call us far right but they're actually extremely far left in the ideas that they want.

48:22And it's not going to be a safe place here in America. Vivo, you look like you want to say something. Even though you're not Gen Z, I want to make sure people know you're not Gen Z. But go ahead, give us. What am I? I'm almost 50 years old. I don't know what I'm going to be. You're 50 years old. I'm 47. I'm 48. Tight skin from here. You should see a skin, not a blemish. I was just going to say, like, the reality is that radicals and progressivism thrives when populism underperforms. And populism and radicalism or progressivism are sort of two sides of the same coin. And when people, the people don't feel that the populist side of their concerns are getting met, they move to the Mamdani's and they move to the El-Sayed's and they move to the radical progressives.

48:58And they are people who want to burn it all down because they have no stake in it. And the question is, how do you get people to have a stake in the corporation that is a country? Markets. Markets. We need to start articulating how to deal with this stuff. So, yes, multiculturalism is a problem. Multi-ethnicity is beautiful. I want all the ethnicity. I want all the food in my mouth. It's great. But I want a uniform culture, and that is the strength of this country. What is that culture? The culture of America is a brand. It means potential. Most of the world has to give up who they could be for who they have to be, and this is one of the few places where you can actually realize your potential.

49:38We have to reward your risk-taking, your ingenuity, and that's a very important thing. And so you've got to lower regulations. You've got to make it easier for people to start a small business, for God's sake. That's a really important thing. And that is it. Look at California. Open a business in California. Tell me how it goes. Try building a house. Talk to a developer in California. See how much you have to go through. These fires, they still haven't built a thing. It takes forever. You got a thousand different regulations in everything. Everything is adjudicated. Even if you're a governor, you try to get something done.

50:13Watch what happens when you try to do any kind of a project. It will be adjudicated at every single step. Sue, sue, sue, stop it, stop it, stop it. We got to figure out a way to make things a lot easier for you to take an idea you have, hang a shingle on a door and open a business. Markets. Capitalism. You start talking about capitalism. It's a word people go, ah, crony capitalism. Don't talk about capitalism. Talk about markets. Talk about free markets. That's very important. Talk about multi-ethnicity, not multiculturalism. Understand the difference. And if we can articulate that difference on this side over here, guys, it'll be very, very, it'll be much easier.

50:51It's very important to be very specific about your language and to know what the real enemy is. You've got to understand the meaningful difference. Because otherwise what happens is we start talking in general terms and I promise you what everybody kind of go we all settle into this fog and we go oh it's a huge problem no no there are specific get back to first principles what made this country great the fact that you were rewarded for your risk taking for your ingenuity that we were it's a it's a marketplace a very valid point you're making i mean it's going back to capitalism emily i'll give you the final thoughts and i'm going to go to the next panel any final thoughts you have with us for the gen z side i mean i do want to comment on affordability again in los angeles Like, my thing is, I think rent control should be completely gone.

51:34You have people paying$7 ,000 a month for a one-bedroom next to people who pay$400 a month for a one-bedroom. And it's honestly just, it's just completely unfair to the person paying$7 ,000. On top of that, we're helping illegals get loans for a first-time home, but not, you know, younger people like us. And it's just completely unfair. And then I'm watching them spend$750 ,000 to build a condo for a homeless person who isn't going to go inside that condo because they refuse to get clean and get off of drugs. and I'm watching them build all this housing and it's empty. The shelters are empty. The housing is empty.

52:05And I'm like, these could be, we're building it. My biggest issue is building these low-income housings at places like Santa Monica and Malibu. I'm sorry, if you're homeless and on drugs, I don't believe you should deserve beachfront real estate. We're basically rewarding them. All right, make some noise, folks. Make some noise, make some noise. Thank you. Next is going to be James Fishback, Ben Burgess, Paul Renner, Randy Fine. Brian, you stick around. Let's also have Michael Francis come up here. And while we're doing this, we're going to go to our sponsors here, Angel Studios, a new movie that's coming out called Drummer Boy.

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54:55I play for you And me! Brian, can you tell us what you just said right now? I said, I'm going to see that movie. I'm going to be pumped. Ray Trader. I want to be a drummer boy. Good for Angel Studios. Drummer boy, go watch the movie. It's coming out here. Again, Angel Studios doing a phenomenal job. With that being said, next topic. Great to have everybody here. I haven't seen you for a while, but it's good to have you guys on. The next topic is can Democrats save their party? And, Ben, I think I'm going to come to you first. Maybe give everybody a little bit about your background, you know, a socialist Democrat, and then how you feel about what the Democrats could do to save their party.

55:34Sure. So, yeah, my name is Ben Burgess. I'm a columnist for Jackman Magazine. And I would say that judging by everything we've been seeing in the polls, judging by the results we've seen so far, the more important question is could the GOP. save themselves because right now it looks like we're about to find out whether we've got a blue wave or a blue tsunami how bad do you think it's going to be in your opinion I don't know. We're going to find out in the next couple hours. I am reluctant to say anything with great confidence because, you know, polls are not infallible. But, you know, but right now I see here in Florida, for example, the last results I saw was like 85, 86 percent in and Angie Nixon was ahead by a hair.

56:20Right. Just a hair. She could still lose. But right now I've got to say, if you're a Republican, I have to think this is not looking good for you. Well, it looks like Tom's got an update for us. Tom, go for it. What's happening? Yes, we have a call, and we are calling Georgia Senate for John Ossoff with nearly 40 % of the vote in. He is up 429 ,000 votes and 25 points, and this one is not unexpected, but the margin of victory is much larger than we expected. I want to point out something in the middle of Georgia. Let's go to Twiggs County in the middle of Georgia, and let's look at a map of data centers.

56:56We're going to take a look at where the data centers are and where there's been a lot of protests that have been going on. So in the middle of Georgia, you have Twigs County and normally red rule Georgia. Let's take a look at the margin of victory that Donald Trump had. He absolutely scorched it. So it was 14.7 point victory, 14.7 points that he won Twigs County. Now you look at where it is here. Ossoff is going to carry the county a shift of 16 points from 2024 to 2026. And keep in mind, Donald Trump won Georgia by only 115 ,000 votes. Ossoff right now up 400 ,000. The lead by all of our tabulations is insurmountable.

57:40We're calling Georgia for soon to be Senator Ossoff. Tom, how much of this is on the candidate as Mike Collins versus on Trump and what the market is doing? Well, you can take a look at this. Let's zoom out to Georgia and take a look at the shift. The shift, there's nothing that has gone. What we're showing you here is the difference between 2024 Trump margin of victory and where it is now. Everything has shifted to the left. But what I'm saying is that's not answering my question, Tom. Is it the candidate or is it the marketplace? Is it the fact that we don't have an exciting candidate that people want to go out there and rally behind?

58:16Or is it the fact that the market is that better on the Republican side? Fishback, I'm going to come to you. Hold that thought. I see you. Go forward. So I believe that what you have is, number one, you have issues with affordability. The number of people in Georgia that said they were financially strained on recent polls coming right up to the election. Take a look at this. You take a look at the strainings. Mike Collins is not a particularly dynamic candidate. John Ossoff is a very dynamic candidate. But, Pat, look at the dark brown of people that are saying, I am now. Not dark brown people.

58:46It's just what the way you made it seem like is what the dark. Come on, Tom. I'm just saying, please. The cameras are on. Go ahead. We'll give our audience on C-SPAN. Tom, please. Restated property. Okay. The more brown it is. Yes, thank you. The more people were saying they were under financial stress changing from 2024 to 2026. That's better. And there were people that were very upset about the data centers. Specifically, I showed you Twigs County and the big shift. they were very upset to hear a data center was coming they were fearing and that seems to be a topic that's good to know so james i'm going to come to you james uh you know the question was can democrats save the party maybe let's change the question the leak on each party republicans what's their blind spots democrats what's their blind spots ben pointed the fact that it's the republicans that have an issue right now but i want to give this number to you according to nbc that just came out today the democrats are less popular than the irs according to the nbc okay 29 % of registered voters, positive opinion of the Democratic Party.

59:5138 % have a positive opinion of the Republican Party. Why do you think that is, James? This is going to end up being a turnout election, and the most important number for voters at home is$22 more is how much the average American is spending to fill up their tank today than they were before this war started at the end of February. And so if you actually map as an inverse correlation the gas price against President Trump's net approval rating, it has a 96 percent correlation. Pat, that's everything you need to know. James Carville said it best in 1992. It's the economy, stupid gas prices. You think it's that simple?

1:00:31It's that simple. And that's why you're seeing it's not even a blue tsunami. It is a total bloodbath at this point. Obviously, very, very early on in the night. But there are races in Florida where, you know, President Trump won by 13 points. Governor DeSantis won by nearly 24 years ago. And these races are coming down to a hair, just half a point deciding them. And so this is a really tough election for my party tonight. So I want to go to a gas expert, Michael Francis. You have a lot of experience with gas in the past for some people that got the joke. In a way, yeah. Do you think this is all about gas prices?

1:01:03You know, Patrick, I think this election is all about Donald Trump. I think his messaging, he did a lot of good things for the country, no doubt about it. And I think we can see that. But his messaging has been horrible. It really has been. Every time he goes out, he makes everything all about him. You know, I think what happened in 2020, I think there was Donald Trump fatigue. If there wasn't, he might have won that election. Forget if it was fraud or anything else. But people just get tired of him. They get so exhausted. Everything is about Donald Trump. He's done great things. I think the Iran war, I think, was bad timing.

1:01:41I think when he went in and bombed the nuclear plant there, he should have left it alone. Maybe six months later, bomb it again if they were doing it. But to go to war, you know, we had a saying on the street. The best way to defeat your enemies is to make them your friends. We realize that. But if you can't make them your friends, then you have to neutralize them. Period. End of day. Because they're always going to keep coming back. He knew if he didn't have a shot to change that administration there and get rid of them, he should have never done what he did. Because they're always going to keep coming back.

1:02:12Very interesting take, Michael, to have a position. And this is coming from somebody that supported him in the past before, right? Absolutely. Yourself. James, did you want to say something to that? I would just add on to that. You're absolutely right. I mean, look, President Trump, I think, has done a did a decent job in the first six months of the administration. The biggest success of the second term has been shutting that border. We had 10 ,000 illegals invading the country in some cases every single day. But the Iran war was a mistake. The economy is no better off today than it was when he took over.

1:02:39Gas prices, unemployment, we are staring down an economy that doesn't look like a golden age, looks like the exact opposite. And then if I were advising the president, I would have told him to make his closing argument something like this. We know we did good. We know we screwed up. Give us an opportunity to make this right. Instead, what did President Trump tell Fox News yesterday? you've never been richer. Quote, you've never been richer. And so it's not just that he screwed up, not just that he didn't deliver. It's that he's gaslighting as a closing argument, and voters resent that. Former Speaker of the House of Florida, Paul Renner, how do you feel about what they're saying?

1:03:16Yeah, look, I mean, in 2024, people were desperate because of the price of things and gave Republicans and Donald Trump the mantle of leadership. And what's happening is not just gas prices, but that's continuing. And the sense is that that the focus is not on what people are most concerned about, affordability, but it's on all these other things. And that comment, obviously, is very unhelpful. And so data centers, in my mind, is an affordability issue, driving up the cost of electricity, water. People sense that it's going to destroy and further degrade their quality of life. You asked about the blind spots.

1:03:50The blind spot is focusing on everything but what the voters are focused on, which is affordability. That is the number one issue. Can I give you some recommendation for the future? Can you get a better marketing team? Can you get some social media? Because you've got to get noticed more. I really like the way you handle yourself on the debate. I give you a lot multiple times. But you've got to get more exposure for yourself. Because if the market doesn't know who you are, you're not going to be noticed. My feedback to you, this is separate because of how you handled yourself during the debate.

1:04:17Of course. It sounds like an invitation to come on and accept. I'm expensive. All I'm saying is, you know, I think when I watch James doing what he's doing on the market, he knows how to poke. He knows how to get under people's skin, and he kind of goes out to put some stuff out there. Your messaging is very spot on. I just think you've got to market yourself a little bit better. Andrew, you're over here seeing very poised, very calm. You're dressed in a black suit as if it's a funeral today. Like, be a little bit optimistic, Andrew. He got a haircut. He got the look. He got everything going on.

1:04:46What are you thinking about this whole conversation with blind spots on the left and the right? I just didn't want to be the only guy here without a suit. You look good. I think you look good. The biggest blind spot, and I hate to be the bearer of bad news, is how we deal with Zionism. That is the undercurrent in both Democrats and Republicans. That's what socialists are talking about, and that's what the far right-wing dissident is talking about. Zionism. Can you unpack that for us? I can. It's how do we deal with Israeli relations and the way that they deal inside of our government in the 21st century.

1:05:21and because nobody wants to address that on the right and if you do you're a social pariah you're not in with the ngos uh you're you're in big trouble and that's what we've come to this whole election if the right wing loses it let's stop pretending it's not a referendum on what's going on in iran and what's going on with our relations with israel because that's exactly what it is can i play a clip for you i'm sure everybody's seen it with the president coming up saying what's going to happen with support for israel is this the clip that we're talking about uh okay go for it and play this clip go ahead now as far as paying israel the bb net ya and i have made a deal that we give israel four billion dollars a year and we made a deal months ago that we're stopping and at at their they're fine with it because you know they become a very successful country that are needed and we won't be paying any more israel so it's just a wasted thing because we've already agreed that by the end of this year we won't be paying israel that will help israel if they need it you know they've been a great ally and we've been the greatest of all allies to many many countries we've been great to many countries you're saying you're not giving them four billion dollars worth of weapons you're not you're no longer control brian we have total control of the harmless trade total control of the harmless trade nobody thought that was possible our navy our blockade our military is incredible we make the best equipment we have the people that know how to use the equipment the best you know it's very complex stuff when you go to the patriots and the tomahawk it's very complex you have to you need smart people to operate we can pause here there was another clip if you want to play the other one on what he said that uh kind of shocked some people i think he said this a couple times before he said if i wanted to go for it some reason they do need it or they need help so i'm the number one i was so voted i'm at 99 9 % approval rating in Israel.

1:07:12Can you believe it? In fact, if people ever got tired of me in the U.S., I'll move to Israel and become prime minister. But I'm at 90. Does this messaging, do these statements help, hurt, or there's no impact to it? They hurt bad. You need the dissonant right. Republicans got to remember this. They need the dissidents, and they don't have the dissonance. The dissidents believe that Donald Trump has become a stooge, Zionist puppet, and that's a huge problem. Nobody in the mainstream right wants to acknowledge this as though the base of Donald Trump wasn't filled to the brim with outcast, dissonant right-wingers.

1:07:47It was. And until we address that problem, we're just pretending. We're just playing pretend. Paul, do you agree with them? I got a couple guests here. My two baby girls, before they go to sleep, they just wanted to come say hi. Everybody say hi to Brooklyn. Hi, Brooklyn. And we have Senna here as well. Paul, by the way, Brooklyn, do you agree what Andrew Wilson was talking about earlier, yes or no? Your answer could be very controversial right now if you say yes or no. Paul, do you agree with him? Well, I think there's no question if you ask, especially younger voters, that that is a real issue.

1:08:20Having traveled all over the state, that people on the right have those concerns, I believe that it's really, again, affordability, affordability, affordability. Pocketbook issues will always be the number one issue. And most voters obviously care about what's pinching them right now, not what's happening overseas or foreign relations. Now, they don't like wars, having been in two of them. And I think on that front, on Iran, you know, I'm more favorable to what the president was trying to do. But if you're going to get in, you get in and you get out. Then why would they? You finish the job, but you don't let it linger and we're going to open the straits, close the straits.

1:08:55I think it's been a bleed out on Iran. Well, why would they elect socialists then if they're worried about just affordability? Nobody elects socialists because they don't understand that your corporate income taxes are going to shoot through the roof and taxes and everything else. Actually, I disagree. I think Mondami was elected exactly on – he's a socialist – on affordability because he said, I'm going to give you free groceries. I'm going to give you free bus rides. I'm going to give you free, free, free. He gets in. He just gives them taxes. So I think affordability is the issue. It's whether you're going to buy – I don't think either half of that is true.

1:09:28That's not true about what Mondati said. and it's not true about what he's done. He never said free groceries. He said he was going to build one public option grocery store per borough, and those plans are underway, right? You know, we're on track for that to happen. He said he was going to freeze the rent for 2 million New Yorkers in rent-stabilized apartments, and that happened, right? It happened. He said that he was going to go after bad landlords. He's been doing it. And, you know, you can see that actually contrary to what a lot of people predicted, Mamdani has gotten way more popular since he came into office.

1:10:03He won by a relatively narrow margin last year, but right now he's got like a 69 % approval rate in New York. He's hugely popular, and I think he's hugely popular because he's been delivering the goods. You know what I think? You were talking about Zionism. I think it's very interesting. I think when you have someone like Abu Sayyid or you have someone like Mamdani who is not even so anti-Israel, but they refuse to support Israel. They kind of talk around the edges. A very interesting thing happens, and I think Republicans could learn from this in one way or another. What happens is they get all the attention.

1:10:38Everybody goes, did you hear what he said? And they start beating. So what that means is you get a lot of Abu Sayyid. You get a lot of Mamdani. You get a lot of these candidates, and we hear about them 24-7. And I don't even hear about Mike Rogers. When was the last time you heard? Where is Mike Rogers? All I saw was Abu Sayyid. and and and there's we live in a time like it or not where your monologue will be amplified if you can amplify your monologue all press is good press because what happens is we go oh that guy's an anti-semitor he hates israel but now we're listening and then he gets a chance to rebut that or he gets a chance to tell you what his real policies are and he gets a chance to say you know what i'm not talking about that i'm talking about affordability can you guys afford gas and groceries And we go, oh, wait a minute, I'm listening.

1:11:24And swing voters do that. So that's a hack to me. And I think Zionism in that sense, I totally agree with you. I think that's really where it has a huge impact. It feels disingenuous to the voters that so many mainstream Republicans talk around that issue. I do. They just won't engage with that issue. And what happens is they become invisible. Because as long as they are blindly on Israel's side, nobody messes with them. It's really ironic because all of a sudden you don't hear about them. But you certainly hear about Abbasid 24-7, and I think that's one of the reasons that he's going to win. Well, I just want to say I grew up in Michigan.

1:12:01Mike Rogers was my congressman for many years, and I would not assume that if people heard more from him, they would like what they were hearing. The man, as far as I can tell, has never found a war that he didn't like until this year when it was convenient on the campaign trail to back off of the war in Iran. I remember getting constituent mailers from Mike Rogers in like 2006, 2007, where he was still talking about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. I think the problem is not that he's not getting enough attention. It's that voters don't like what he's selling. Okay, so here's a question for you guys.

1:12:32The question is, does an Abdul El-Sayed, and I want to move on this because I got a Stephen 8 that's going to come on here in a couple minutes. Would an Abdul El-Sayed candidate win in any other state but Michigan as a senator? No, of course not. But what other state would he win in? A candidate like that? He could win in places like California. He wouldn't win in California. What's that? He wouldn't win in California. No, I think he could. Okay, what other states could a candidate like that win in? New York. New York? I think New York. What else? Illinois? Maybe. What other places? I mean, it's entirely possible Angie Nixon's going to win Florida tonight.

1:13:07But is she a background like him? Not the socialism side. I'm talking on the Muslim-Islamist side with the Muslim Brotherhood comments, something like that. Do you think a person like that can win in other states? But remember what Sayed does. He talks about playing football. He talks about being an athlete. He does push-ups on stage. He talks about how Pete Hegseth rode the bench. He talks about being a capitalist. He has a business. He says, I'm not a socialist. He talks about affordability, affordability, affordability. That's why I'm going to say it. He's charismatic. So can someone like him win in other states?

1:13:42Yes. They can win in different states. Okay, great. And not only that, socialist populism is here, and it's the sum of all fears for the right. But if we get real socialist populists in there who decide that they're going to become very pro-union, which means anti-immigration, but then move their economic plan forward, the American people will compromise with that. It's the sum of all fears. And that's where we are. I want you to stay here with us because I'm going to go to Stephen A. Let me know if Stephen A. is up here. Where is our friend Stephen A. Smith? If you're up here, can we see his face if he's joining us?

1:14:16They're telling me he's backstage virtually. Can we put him up there so I can see him? He just did a phenomenal, phenomenal interview with Governor Ron DeSantis earlier today. I think it was posted today or yesterday. He's not in his seat. Okay, we'll come back to him. So then we'll come back to him. Let me show you guys what I have here, okay? This is my concern. This is my concern of what I have. I have a list here that I want to share with you. The list is the bench of 40 under 40, both political parties. And what I noticed with this, the concern is the deep bench on the left versus the deep bench on the right being under the age of 40.

1:14:52Can you pull this up for me? For the folks that are watching this, we chose the following things when we pulled this up. Under 40, you have to be under 40 eligibility proven or tested serving an elected official or a notable candidate in 2022, 2026. a plausible role as a governor, senator, leader, mayoral, or cabinet member, and then we took the following way we weighted it. Influence and governing leverage, 25%. Electoral performance and momentum, 25%. Media and persuasion ability, like James Fishback, 20%. Coalition breadth, 15%. Credible next stop opportunity, 15%. Can you pull up the names that we have up there for me, please?

1:15:31So here's who we have, some of these names. Some of them you may recognize, some of them you may not. Josie, Michael Bashar, David, Carter, Norman, Alexis. You can go all the way down to the last names that we have. Kat, James Fishback, based on the scores at 34. James, we got to kind of get you up there a little bit. Josh Hoover, Yasmin Ansari, Addison McDowell, Ru Roman, Aliyah Gaskins, Richie Torres. How many of you guys have no clue what names I'm reading off here? Who has no idea who I'm talking about right now? But look at this here. Nabila Saeed, all blue. Four out of five on the slightest blue.

1:16:04So if you look at their number, Joe Mitchell, then you got Eric Flores, Rob, Justin B, Maxwell Frost, Brian Jack, Houston Gaines, Maddie Doherty, Brandon Herrera, which anybody knows Brandon Herrera? Who knows who Brandon Herrera is? YouTuber with five, six million subscribers who's going out there. Second Amendment guy. Makes great AK-47s. He makes phenomenal. Ryan Fictiwa, Sarah McBride, Jack. You got Pat Harrigan. Anyways, Ana Paulina Luna star, but she doesn't want to be in politics long term. Then you have 10th place, Sarah Jacobs on the left. Caroline Leavitt. Who would like to see Caroline running in the future someday?

1:16:41Anybody would like to see her running? She's pretty capable, media savvy. You got Austin Davis, Destin Hall. Then you got Brandon Gill. Who likes Brandon Gill? Who here knows who Brandon Gill is? Stud, Young coming up. Greg Caesar. Then you got James Tallarico. Look at the top four. Mamdani, number three. Number two, John Ossoff. top five out of five is all on the left and guess who's first place can anybody guess who's number one come on ben aoc number one what does this tell you so to me when i see this by the way if everybody anybody's watching this and they want to have this list being sent to them what is the text on this one can you tell me what the text is on this one 40 text the word 40 to 310-340-1132 text award not the number the letter f-o-r-t-y 40 to 310-340-1132 we'll send you this entire list what do you think about when you see the bench on the left of 40 under 40 versus the right james well what i would tell you is we got a real problem on the right because we have a persuasion problem we can't connect with young people i'm less interested in the bench of the 40 under 40 although thank you patrick for putting me on there than i am the voters who were under the age of 40.

1:17:54When my dad was growing up in the 1960s, half, half of 30 year olds were married and own their home. Today, less than 15 % of 30 year olds are married and own their home. My generation younger cannot buy a home, cannot get married, fears losing their job to a foreign worker or artificial intelligence. And that is threatening their whole identity as Americans. Now, the number one question, Pat, that an under 40 voter asked me when I was campaigning here in florida was by far did you take a pack money that is the number one question that young voters asked me personally as i was traveling the state young voters on the left and the right they don't want anyone who has anything to do with a pack with zionism with sending u.s money over to israel period and it's something that my party has to reckon with i'm no fan of the left but i gotta tell you they are right on this issue ben they have adapted in real time they have a good strategy and it's time for the right to wake up as well.

1:18:50Anybody else on the bench? Specifically the bench. That includes our NGOs. Yes. Our right-wing NGOs need to have a counter-message of actual America first. It doesn't surprise me that that's the message that you hear, especially when it comes to AIPAC, when it comes to other NGOs. One of the things that the left has been really good about is viciously attacking NGOs from getting tons and tons of cash from the Israeli lobby. Yes. Now, whether APAC does this or not, that's kind of up to the win. I've been told they don't, but people seem very sus about that. So I agree with you on this. The question is, how do you move them away from that sweet, sweet money?

1:19:34That's the tough part. That's the tough part. Paul, what would you say? You've been in this game. You've been in this game for a while. How do you get a deeper bench? Right now, if I'm looking at a team, who won the World Series this year? Anybody want to know who won the World Series? Was it the Yankees? Brewers. Was it the Dodgers? Was it the Mets? Did the Mets even make the playoffs? Who won the game? It was the Brewers and the Tampa Bay. So they're going thinking long game, developing culture, injecting belief, all this stuff. And I had a call the other day with a very heavyweight Republican.

1:20:02And I said, what's the story? How many meetings are Republicans having behind closed doors to develop the next generation of leaders? The late, great Charlie Kirk was doing it. Who's doing it now? So, of course, since we've lost Charlie, that bench has gotten a little bit quiet. What do you think about making that bench bigger on the right? Well, it has to be through Charlie Kirk, and obviously it could have helped and was helping. But I think it's a factor of what James referred to is the lack of family formation. You know, conservatism as its core is about these organic social connections that don't depend on government.

1:20:35and young people not having that as they did just decades or generations ago are gravitating to the siren song of the left, which promises a direct line from government to providing every knee that you can possibly imagine, going back to Mondami and taking care of those problems. And so if you're desperate and you don't have those alternatives to government, the left is a pretty attractive option for young people right now. and they're coming up right now, I believe, and this is what really concerns me on our side of the aisle, is not having the experience or believing in the future of the American dream, that the institutions are stacked against them, America doesn't work for them anymore.

1:21:18And I think this is a real thing for a lot of young people who do not believe. A guy that traveled with me on the campaign said in my class, went to a great university, don't believe they'll ever own a home, ever. And so right now, the average age is, what, 40-something? That's crazy. And so I think that's the risk we have in recruitment, but in losing the next generation is my biggest concern, is that they're going to drift to the left because the left is going to make that false promise they can never really deliver on, but it just sounds so good. I want to believe it. Yeah, but, I mean, listen, it's a better job selling, and I think the part that we need to be doing is selling people to run, developing their mindset, developing how to get out there and do their part on the marketing side, and then encouraging the youth.

1:22:01Because right now they've got a deeper bench under 40, and I know maybe something, oh, it's not really a big deal. We're not really thinking about that. But that comes from also not defining yourself on what you're against. What I keep seeing is people saying how much they hate the other side or they don't like this. You have to be very specific about what you are fighting for. Defining what we're fighting for is very important if you're a politician. And that comes down to philosophy. It comes down to what are you defending? As an American, this is a brand. This brand, this grand experiment is about potential.

1:22:33It's about the fact that I can have a better life if I use my energies and my training and everything else, sacrifice, but I can have a better time of it tomorrow. That is what this country is about. And if you can't afford a house, oh boy. And if I can never afford a house, there goes the brand, baby. That's a big problem. And one more thing I think that's really important. You know, whether you like it or not, when you wage these wars in the Middle East, Iraq and Afghanistan, we're talking 23 years, and nothing really changes over there. A lot of dead bodies, a lot of dead brown people, a lot of wounded and dead Americans.

1:23:15And nothing really comes of it. It's very difficult for the Americans to then start talking about a moral high ground. the next war we go into and we go we're going to change that place and make it better what do you mean better like i've got a son of iraq like do you ever talk to the average iraqi lately i haven't but i i so so that is a very important thing as well that's a good point you're making i want to go to this due to sake of time we got stephen a smith here with us stephen a can you hear us and see us i can't hear stephen a jake you got to put his audio okay can you hear me now steven a or no i can hear you yes i can hear you clearly how you doing how you feeling i'm doing all right how you doing i'm great man what's going on good job on the interview with ron de santis you you you made him look very likable and he's all over the place people are talking about he may run in 2028 so you have some good i don't know people have told you this in the past you have a decent interview ability you're pretty good on camera you should entertain this business it could be pretty good for you and profitable for you steven a what what are you thinking with everybody you're talking to you were at the president you were at the white house with bill maher you guys had a four and a half hour meeting with them privately now you're talking to all these folks that are coming to you they're knocking on the door you were on the view a couple days ago what are you feeling what is the pulse you're getting with what's going on right now with the midterms a lot of man a lot of animosity towards the president and they're taking it out on the republican party who they believe has shown no spine whatsoever to reign him in in their eyes You do have people who are obviously strong supporters of the president.

1:24:48You know, they see some of the good that he has done as it pertains to themselves and their own beliefs. But the war in Iran being compelled by Netanyahu to do what he's done in that regard in a lot of people's eyes has really been a turnoff for them. The dismissiveness of his words and what they perceive as being his attitude towards the affordability issue. This constant delay. We're not in a war, but we're in a war. And then obviously you bomb Iran and you say we've obliterated them. Then you turn around and you bomb them again because they're a month away from having a nuclear weapon. And then after that, it shouldn't last more than four weeks.

1:25:23Then after that, it shouldn't last more than four months. Now, here we are a year later. And right before it reached a year later, you're telling the American voter out there, vote for us. Make sure the Republicans are back in office and we'll put five thousand dollars in your pocket. That stuff didn't work with a lot of voters out there. Galvanized the base against the meeting, the Democrats. It got them more motivated to vote against him than they were to vote for Democrats. And that's the situation that the Republican Party is looking at right now. They're expected to lose the House. I just finished interviewing former Virginia Governor Terry McAuliffe, who's the former head of the chairman of the Democratic National Committee.

1:25:59He says they're going to win the Senate as well. And obviously they're going to prioritize, you know, addressing affordability, investigating Trump, his family and their cronies in terms of what dealings that they've been doing. So the government benefits and what have you, the government or government contracts to contractors and stuff like that. got all of this going on right now and they're gung-ho to get at it and they believe that there will be a mandate that is handed down this evening where they will reclaim the house and senate and they will be able to really stymie what this man's agenda is over the next two years i like the angle you took earlier you know because the question is the following let's say let's play the let's say game the devs win the house and they win the senate okay yeah one what do you think they'll do And if they do that, what will happen in 2028?

1:26:49I believe that the Democrats are going to be arrogant enough to believe it's a mandate as opposed to a vote against Trump. There are going to be enough of them that think that it was a vote for them, their mandate, that they've reclaimed power. And they're going to be stupid and arrogant enough to go after him with stuff like impeachment. They're definitely going to try to impeach Pete Hanks. They're definitely going to go after Marco Rubio with an investigation. They're probably going to do the same with Trump. And we're going to be inundated with similar chaos to what was transpiring leading up to the years between when he departed in 2020 and he reclaimed the presidency in 2024.

1:27:32And that same kind of chaos is going to cost them the presidency in 2028 in all likelihood to Marco Rubio or Ron DeSantis. That is what I believe. So you have Marco Rubio or Ron DeSantis in 2028 if they go aggressive on the right. Yes, if they go aggressive on the left. If they go aggressive on the left. For sure, yeah, yeah. Meaning if they attack the right is what I'm saying. If they go attack. Correct. And so, Stephen A, a complete different question for you. You and I have talked about, hey, Stephen A, what if you run for office one day? What if all this other stuff? Obviously, I have a report here, which I'm going to send it to you afterwards.

1:28:05I have the top 50 people with the highest scores on who should run. I'm going to give 50 names tonight, and you're on this list. I can't tell you where you rank. You've got to look at the list. I'll send it to you afterwards. But the more you're around this, you're in the conversations, do you get the itch? Are you like, man, I want to get into it? Or does it more is like, I don't want to have anything to do with politics ever. I just want to stay in business. Does it pull you in, or does it push you away? It pushes me away, but only because of what I'd have to sacrifice for a campaign, as you well know, because you're my buddy, and I've told you this.

1:28:39I was informed that the minute I announced I was running, I would immediately have to forfeit my job and my career, essentially because of equal time rules by virtue of what I do, the airtime. I'm not allowed to have that. So if I were to win the presidency and I had to give up what I'm doing to run the country, would I do it for that reason? Sure. But I'm not going to do it to campaign. I'm not going to give up everything on a maybe. That's not going to happen. I wish that I could because I believe that I could win, to be quite honest with you. And I believe we need to have that kind of structure in the White House.

1:29:14I'm a centrist. I know I believe in negotiating on both sides of the aisle. I believe in understanding that sacrifice needs to come along with everything. No one gets to get everything that they want, do what's in the best interest of the country and operate that way. That's what I believe in. And I'm obviously pro-business. I'm about free market capitalism. As you would say, and I will accurately, I will openly admit this to everybody, to all of your listeners, because you've said it to me to my face. You've told me I'm the most conservative Democrat you have ever met. You have said that. And I'm here to tell you, you're probably right.

1:29:48I do believe in a safety net. I do believe to help in helping the desolate and disenfranchised and underprivileged amongst us and having some kind of safety net to help those and uplift those who are less fortunate than the affluent that lives in our society. But I am about free market capitalism. I am about strong borders. I am about strong national security. I am about a strong economy and I am about safety in the streets come hell or high water. I'm that guy. So I definitely think that that's something that needs to exist in the White House. And I think that, unfortunately, too many people on both sides of the aisle have been preoccupied with what they want for themselves and the individual power that they get to flex, as opposed to being committed to doing what's in the best interest of the country.

1:30:31And that is why I would be interested in running, because I think I would be better than all. So if that's the case, Stephen A., if you're coming this close to it and you're talking politics instead of just going away and talking sports it seems like you're like you're flirting with it you're like hey stay close to me because who knows maybe one day i may change my mind i thought for a second you were about to say and i'm here to announce my you know running for 2020 i thought you were about to give that speech and you're gonna drop that you know what i i would be doing it if i was rich as patrick ben david i mean i put i do it then if i didn't have anything to worry about, is it pertaining to my quality of life?

1:31:07Hell yeah, I would probably do it. But that would be the only condition in which I would do it. Well, if you did that, you'd have millions of people who would love to see you do it. I've spent a lot of time with you one-on-one. And as much as I always, I've told you, first time you and I spoke, how much I followed your stuff and I would always hear what you had to see your opinion about sports. The more I spend time with you, the more I like you. I wish the world knew your character as well as I know it. You're a mensch. You're one of a kind. We love you, Stephen A. Thank you so much for your time, buddy.

1:31:34Appreciate you. Love you too, man. Thank you. I love you, too. Take it easy. All right, so if we can get Brian a break, because he seems a little tired. Brian, if you don't mind taking a break and going over there. Ben, I'm going to bring you back up. Stay here. I'm going to bring you back up as well. But what I want to do is I want to bring a couple other folks on stage. If I can have – do we have the folks here? Do we have the friends here? Okay, this one's going to be an interesting one. I wouldn't mind bringing up James O 'Keefe, Dominique Tarjinsky, and Eduardo Bolsonaro, if they're here, if we can bring those folks up, if they're here, let's have them come up here because we're going to have a complete different conversation with them.

1:32:11And Paul Renner, if you can give us a break, I'll bring you back up. And Andrew, I'm going to bring you back up as well. Everybody will stick around. Let's make some noise for the folks. If we can have the other folks come up here, that'd be great. In the meantime, Tom, can you give us an update? What's the latest on what's been happening? There are some things going on here that are getting pretty serious. So let's go take a look at, first of all, South Carolina. Darlene Graham, sister of the late Lindsey Graham. Let's go take a look. Is it the Senate? South Carolina? Senate, South Carolina? Okay.

1:32:44We're trying to find those numbers. What do you see with South Carolina, Tom? What's it showing you? Andrews is leading by more than we anticipated. Andrews is leading Darlene Graham more than by what's anticipated, South Carolina. Also, there's some things going on in Ohio, Ohio Senate. Okay, we'll come back to you, Tom. We'll come back to you, Tom. You guys take a look at it. I'll come back to you. Tom looks like he's fired. By the way, if you want to know one thing about Tom, Tom and I were at an Inc. 5000 conference 10, 15 years ago. And while we're there, the mayor of Frisco is there. He's got a poker game that's going on.

1:33:25While we're doing this, they play poker. Tom is getting bad hands the entire time. 45 minutes into it, Tom's face is so red that the mayor from Frisco, Maso, comes up and says, that is the worst poker face in the world. You have pocket aces. Literally eight players, we all drop our cards. Tom flips his cards. He says, how the hell did you guys know we have pocket aces? Because when Tom is upset or excited, his face turns red. That's a tale. if you ever play poker with him in vegas i just saved you a few thousand dollars tom we love you anyways um eduardo great to have you here it's phenomenal to have you here dominic phenomena have you here thank you as well so it's fair to say when it comes down to values and principles national sovereignty conservative values there's some interesting things going on around the world your brother which a lot of people think he beat lula in brazil the race was close i know ben doesn't agree with that and lula came out the debate i thought he crushed it your brother did a phenomenal job in brazil when he went out there poland right now who has the lowest rape lowest unemployment probably the safest country in europe you guys got a lot of good things gold reserves that's very important gold reserves but you have barack obama who the other day is talking about poland and hungary and hungary he's unhappy why do you think these two so we're going to start off with poland first and then eduardo i'll come to you as well all the election of what's going on in America.

1:34:48How much does the world get impacted of what happens here first? Whatever happens in America, it happens in Europe in six months. If communists will take over, communism will be back in Europe, 100%. What is going on in Poland now is as communists and globalists in general lost presidential election, they are not able to push their agenda because in our system, president has to has a right to veto or sign the bill right any new law so they cannot they couldn't beat us so they found the way to get over constitutional tribunal and constitutional tribunal would remove president from the office what it means it means that when communists cannot win when globalists cannot beat us they're using force it the same thing it's going to happen in america if please god i hope it's not going to happen but if they will take house and the senate the first thing they will try to do is not economy not a war remove president from the office that's what i think they will try you know how they did it in poland they just closed the building for you know they get rid of the our our elected judges and they stopped it with their people and they said you're not judge anymore you are not president anymore what they did in in brazil How come, can you explain me, how come that the candidate who was losing two hours before the end of the election, they extended this by two hours, and then he gained all the votes from the previous...

1:36:26You know, both sides asked for that extension, right? No, okay, okay, but it was used. Can you explain it mathematically? How is it possible that all other candidates who some of them endorsed Bolsonaro, he didn't get any votes from them? How is it mathematically possible? It's impossible. There's nothing mathematically impossible. It just didn't go the way you like. You guys need to get over this thing. I do not know that any case in a history... Every time you lose an election, it's a conspiracy. No, it's not a conspiracy. It's mathematically impossible because he gained more votes than all other candidates who endorsed Bolsonaro.

1:37:05It's ridiculous. Logic is important in politics, just like philosophy. We are not stupid and blind. There's no theory. It's a mathematical and political practice. Lula winning the election in Brazil should be the least surprising thing ever because if you look back at the last bunch of presidential elections in Brazil, The only one that the PT, the Workers' Party, Lula's Party, lost was in 2018 when Lula was imprisoned in false charges to make sure it was not in the election. That's why we have the saying in Poland, it doesn't matter who's voting, the most important is who's counting. Oh, so those were all stolen?

1:37:43All those elections were stolen in Brazil? That's what's happened during the communism in Poland. They were winning all the elections because there was no one else to compete. No, I think they're winning the elections because they're popular. Eduardo will explain it better. But coming back to Poland and America, why is it so important? Because globalists in general, Soros, USAID for years, they will send money to the leftists as they did, as they used to do it for years. If European communists would not have money from American leftists, nothing what happened since 2015 with illegal migration in Europe wouldn't happen this is the problem open borders abolish army abolish police this is the problem the money was sent from USAID to the radical left in Europe and what they did they started with the borders they couldn't do it in Poland because of our government and because of my zero we decided none no one will come to Poland.

1:38:47And if you want to try now, cross Polish border, you are shot dead. And this is what we need. What we need something seriously wrong with you. I haven't finished yet. It's Polish law. It's Polish law. You see, that's the other thing. The lefty, they don't want to listen about facts. It's not my opinion. I haven't finished. I'm sorry, but you just lied about what I said. I didn't say, I wasn't disputed the facts i said there's something wrong with you if you're clapping for shooting people for crossing the border yeah something deeply wrong with you well i would level that's not a dispute about beautiful it's great that's a dispute about basic human okay it's beautiful do you want to clap i think many people are clapping what i think this is where a lot of people clap so you know what i i wish you i wish you because i try to explain it like a to a five-year-old.

1:39:43When someone is trying to break into your home, you visit him with the flowers or you shoot them to protect your family? Well, I think that sounds like an explanation that a five-year-old would give with a five-year-old's understanding of what the options are. So our experience. It's either flowers or murder. There's nothing in between. Yeah, give them chocolate then. Okay, so our experience. Can I say something? I want to say something. I'm finished just one sentence. No, in your defense, I want to say something. This is the same attitude that when we ask people to stand up, okay, for the parents of people that were raped and murdered from people coming over the border, they wouldn't want to stand up.

1:40:23That's okay? No. Is that okay? Hang on, hang on, hang on, Dominic. He's asking him. He's asking you questions. Is that okay? Is what okay? Is it okay to sit down and not stand up, okay, and pay respects to the parents of people, of two women that were murdered, okay, because illegal migrants came over the border and raped and murdered them, and they didn't have the courtesy to stand up. I think that you know that that's misleading. I think that what they weren't standing up for was a demagogic use of those people's deaths in order to propose a wildly false narrative about crime in the United States.

1:40:56You call that demagogic? That immigrants are committing a murder at a higher rate than Native-born Americans. Facts are stubborn things. That is a fact that immigrants do not commit murder at a higher rate than Native-born Americans. But they did commit those murders. Murder. So why do you not stand up for the parents of the people that were murdered? But if you said, oh, hey, you found some case, like, you know, let's say an anti-Semitic politician was saying, hey, I found a case where a Jewish person murdered someone. Can you stand to respect the parents of people who were murdered by Jews? No, you would sit down because you would understand that that was being used as a demagogic thing for anti-Semitic purposes.

1:41:33And this is the same thing for anti-immigrant purposes. No, it wasn't. It was very simple. No, it's not. It was very simple. Stand up for the parents. Here's your homework. Watch the clip and see what point Trump was making in that speech when he brought that up. Can I just one sentence coming back to my thought, okay? If they will not come to our Polish border, they will not be dead. Do not come. We don't have this discussion. I agree. Do not come. Ben, what do you see wrong with that? There is no problem. There is no discussion. There is no chocolates or flowers. And there is no guns. Totally agree.

1:42:06Do not come. What is wrong with saying the only options are chocolate flowers or murder? Can I ask you a question? Let me ask him a question. So if somebody comes to your house, in your house, they open the door. If I walk into your house, what should you be able to do to me legally? Do you think that's a good analogy for immigration? Of course I do, because it's our home, homeland. This is our homeland. I live in my homeland. You cross my border. This is my homeland. I'm entering the door of your homeland. So go back to the question. What do you see the problem with him? Lowest rape, lowest crime, lowest unemployment out of all the countries in the EU.

1:42:42Why? And if you cross the line, they'll kill you. What's wrong with that? Go ahead. I think that killing people for nonviolent offenses is something that any— They killed our soldiers. They were a big women in Europe. What are you talking about? With standard human values is going to have a problem with. So jihadists are coming with me. If somebody has committed a nonviolent crime, you can arrest them, but no, you should not kill them. By the way, can I say, and I want to go to Eduardo on this, Dominic, so I'm going to come back to you guys. And I've got a couple other people, and we've got a couple things to do as well.

1:43:12But, Ben, this is what I want you to think about on what you just said. A part of the reason, by the way, my son, Dylan, let's see everybody. He scored four goals today in the game, so make some noise for Dylan. Great job, buddy. And he just got back from practice, but thank you for that. But, you know, a part of it, if you think about immigration is not a top three issue right now. Why not? Because it was fixed. But it was in 2024. The only reason immigration is not an issue is because we're not seeing the number of people crossing the borders and YouTubers and podcasters there saying, what the hell is going on here?

1:43:43There's a reason why so many people side with him. The 250 ,000 rapes in UK, the numbers that we've seen, it's pretty scary side on what's going on. Just revealed ones. I'm going to come back to you. Stay here. I want you to stay up here because I don't mind you pushing back. Eduardo, your brother was in a debate with Lula. Lula, president of Brazil, who Operation Car Wash many years ago, he went to prison for theft. He was given a house, all this other stuff. Alexandre de Moraes comes in, the Supreme Court from Brazil. Can you pull up his picture? He looks very friendly. He looks like a sweetheart of a guy.

1:44:15If you can put his picture up, somebody you would want to be friends with. This man right here, if you can put his picture up, Alexandre de Moraes, goes back and says, who can beat Jair Bolsonaro? goes to prison, brings a guy out named Lula, who Obama called one of the greatest politicians of all time. Look how sweet this man looks here. Tell me this isn't somebody you want babysitting your kids. This guy goes and brings Lula out of prison. Then Lula becomes president. Your father, I was there when I was interviewing him. Ten minutes after we're done with the interview, somebody comes whisper saying, you got to get out, you're going to jail now.

1:44:49There were some issues that he was facing when we were in, I think it was Brasilia, when we were together there. Your brother is now in Miami, if I'm not mistaken. What happened to Brazil elections? It was clearly stolen. It's like, give me the most Republican state of the United States. I don't know, Wyoming. So maybe you open the, start the county and then, oh, Biden won in Wyoming, won in Texas, won in, I don't know, any other central state here. Is it possible? Yes, it's possible. It's possible Brazil score 100-0 in a soccer game against Argentina. Yes, all of this is possible. That's why people say, oh, it's mathematically possible.

1:45:29Yeah, but the situation in Brazil, to explain to you Americans, is like we do not have primaries in Brazil. So in the first round, everybody runs. In the two best positions, they go to the runoff, all right? So imagine a first round, you have Trump won 47%. Second one was Kamala Harris, 45%. Then all of the 8 % rests, it's among Mike Pompeo, Nick Hawley, and Bob Kennedy. You are going to run off. Who do you think the guys who in the first round, the voters who in the first round voted for Mike Pompeo, Nick Hawley, and Bob Kennedy, are they going to vote for everybody to Kamala Harris? this is the situation in Brazil.

1:46:20What I'm telling you is exactly the picture of Brazil. So in the first round, you had 9 million votes that goes to these other center or center-right candidates. And suddenly, 9 million votes, remind that. And suddenly, on the runoff, Lula got almost 11 million votes more, which means he got all of the votes of all of the other candidates plus almost 2 million more votes. how can someone come to me and say this is okay this is legal then you have a lot of other things just like in venezuela in 2015 what happened is 5 p.m it ended you cannot vote after 5 p.m in brazil and the elections happen every county or the whole country in only one day after 5 p.m everything is closed when it was 501 a justice not for the electoral court from the supreme court for sure he's not caring about the electoral court he said no no let's open the let's keep there are some cities that they have problems with transportation whatever and let's extend the rotation two hours more in some cities and who asked for to do that lula da silva lula da silva asked that why because some buses in the city of salvador in some others they did not they were they weren't working they weren't working properly because a union that is connected with the left they put stickers of lula on the bus and by the brazilian law you cannot campaign on the day of the election so what the mayor did is the bus are not going to get out from the garage they are not going to work today we need to take out all of these stickers and then they can go back to the normality.

1:48:08So this was the excuse, and for sure everything is tied. The union, there is no union from right in Brazil. All of the unions are connected with the left-wing movements or left-wing parties. They did that, so they did give the excuse to Lula to go not to the electoral court, but to the Supreme Court asking for the justice with only casualty, all right? It's just a coincidence. He's the former lawyer of Lula da Silva. So his former lawyer that he appointed to the Supreme Court gave an order to say, okay, in these left-wing cities, you can vote for the next two hours until 7 p.m. Are we really talking this is a democracy?

1:48:47And then for sure, the lawyers of my brother say, look, once they scam the votation, once they have a way to do what they did in Venezuela in 2015, it's done. Once Lula is elected, that is very hard. There is no way to annul the election. So what they did is we have an option. We do nothing, and then you have more people likely voting left in these cities. Or we can try to also open, we're disperated, we can try to open two more hours for people in our cities to vote to where you have some strong reigns or whatever. So this is what they did. That's why he was saying, oh, the lawyers of Flavio Bolsonaro already asked.

1:49:28What do you have to say to that? What do you have to say to that? Yeah, I think that it's a lot of cope and it's a lot of excuses. is I think that Lula won because he's an extremely popular politician who has, you know, who has won multiple times before. It should be extremely unsurprisingly won. And I also think as far as that specific story we heard, the most important part was very quietly tucked into a little corner at the end, which is that his brother's lawyers also asked for an extension. When Lula's lawyers did, that's evidence of a conspiracy to steal the election. When his brother's lawyers did, Well, that's different because, you know, they just had to or whatever.

1:50:03Both sides were asking for extensions. There's absolutely no serious evidence of fraud. It's just become an article of faith for the global right. Ben, question for you. Is he a criminal? Is Lula a criminal? Well, I don't think so, no. Oh, he's saying. So he didn't go to jail for... Yes, he did go to jail, and it turned out that there was crazy corruption at that trial. There was crazy collusion. between the judge, the prosecutors, and I'm sorry, the Bolsonaro family in that trial, which is why he got out of prison. My family? What did my family have with the car wash operation? I would recommend, I will even name somebody who I think that some viewers of this might take seriously.

1:50:48Glenn Greenwald wrote a very good book. I think it was called Defending Democracy about Brazil. I'm going to give you the final thoughts on this, and then I'm going to go to Tom. He's got an update. Go for it. And you can read all about the problems with that trial. And I think this protestation of innocence, oh, no, no, no, the Bolsonaro's had absolutely nothing to do with this, rings very hollow. All right, let me read some details. He's saying that Lula was persecuted by a judge, a local judge. His name is Sergio Moro, who, by the way, just got elected governor of a state in the south of Brazil.

1:51:20So this judge, in the case of the apartment that we received from a company with bribery, it's in the beach of Guarujá in the São Paulo state and also a farm in the city of Atibaya. For this case of bribery with reforming the apartments and giving some lands to Lula, this judge convicted Lula for eight years in jail. Lula appealed for a state court. In the state court, what they did is, five of the judges, they increased the punishment for 12 years. So how can the local judge, he's persecuting you, and he say that you are guilty and convicting you for eight years, and then you appeal to another court where you have other five judges, and then these other five judges say, no, no, no, you are not only convicted, you are guilty, but you are going to increase your punishment for 12 years in jail.

1:52:14And then he did go again to the Superior Justice Court in the capital in Brasilia. And this court said, okay, Lula, you are convicted to, by the way, these rights my father never had. My father was this justice, Alexandre de Moraes, was the repraternary of his case. And they convicted my father. My father, there is no one, no other court to appeal. And at the end of the day, everybody, almost 20 judges convicted Lula. He's saying that he's not corrupt, false accusations, but the apartment is still there in the Guadalajara Beach. The farm is still there in the Atibaya City. You can go there and see with your own eyes what you have there.

1:52:53And to finish it, the Supreme Court never said that Lula is not guilty. What they did is Lula, his trial was in the wrong city. His trial was supposed to be in the city of Sao Paulo or in Brasilia. And he was convicted in the city of Curitiba. So they restarted all the process against Lula from the ground. And for sure, these cases are related for facts of 2007, and there is no time anymore to convict him. Look, the reality of it is right now with what happened, the 11 million votes, that's a little weird what happened. A lot of people are suspect. But the part is how much the other day had Pete Buttigieg on on the podcast last week.

1:53:33And I asked him a question. I'm trying to find out what's going to be happening with the plan of 2020. In the month of May of this year, they had a meeting in Canada, closed-door meeting with Barack Obama, Slotkin, who I don't know if you guys heard, Slotkin is a lady that said, we want to do something where conservatives coming out of college, they're frightened of joining the MAGA movement or things like that, so they want to put the fear in them. And Pete was at the meeting as well. I said, what did you guys talk about at that meeting? And we talked about wealth tax. And I said, so what happens if people who are getting the wealth tax in the state of California are not happy, and they leave and they go to Texas and Florida?

1:54:06What do you do with that? He says, that's why I believe wealth tax needs to be a national thing, meaning a national wealth tax, even if you escape to Florida. Then I said, great. Then what if, now, Ben, this is the part that concerns a lot of people. I said, now, what if some people say, screw America, if you're going to do wealth tax on everybody, the billionaire like CZ from Binance, he lives in a country, Singapore, he's got 5 ,000 employees in 100-plus countries. I said, what if they leave America to a different country? You know what he said? This is why you have to get the world to agree on having a wealth tax in all the countries.

1:54:37I said, you sound like a globalist. That's why people fear you right now. This is why what's happening in Poland, Brazil, all the other places, people are worried. Something could shift in a mentality going left or right and scares the crap out of them. Before we go to the next part, next segment, we're about to have Glenn Beck join us as well. Glenn Beck is one of my favorites. He's going to come up here in a minute. And then afterwards, I'm going to show you my top 50 draft picks of who should run for president. And then you're going to be surprised who scored a highest number one on who should run for press.

1:55:06I guarantee you, even if you guess it right on the comment section, you're not going to get number one. If you get it, I'll be surprised. You know who he is. You know who he is. We'll share this with you in a minute. But prior to that, let's go to our commercial break real quick. I don't get excited about every movie that comes out. But when you have a musical, an American musical, and another story about a great American entrepreneur, and I get to buy it with four tickets and streaming all in one, now you got my attention. And I'm talking about Angel Studios. And guys, this deal is ridiculous.

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1:56:07Go to angel.com forward slash PBD and join today. By the way, I myself can't wait to go watch Hershey. I watch these movies all the time when they come out. Tom, what is the latest? What is the latest update we have here? Well, let's first take a look at the balance of the power in the Senate. The night started. 31 Republican seats in place, 34 Democrat. There have been nine calls for Democrats tonight, and I'm going to give you the one that's been called for the Republican side. So let's go first to the state of Florida and see how Byron Donalds is doing. And then Byron Donalds is now up by 1.2 percent.

1:56:42As you can see, the whole panhandle is in. The South Florida is in. The blue areas of Miami and Fort Lauderdale, as expected, he's up by 1.2. The last polling, remember, Pat, this was predicted to be a four and a half to five point race. Other people said, nope, I think it's going to be tighter than that. It is. It's 90 percent in. He's got a 98 ,000 vote lead. It looks good for Byron Donalds, but nail biter compared to what was expected. However, on the other side, Senate for Florida, we're calling Ashley Moody will win the Senate for Florida. She's got a five point lead with 90.5 percent of the vote counted.

1:57:20Now a bit of an upset. Let's go to South Carolina. South Carolina Senate, take a look. Annie Andrews has a 5.3 % lead over Darlene Graham. And the area on this map that you can see here that hasn't been tabulated yet is dark blue. Those are dark blue voting areas expected to be 58-42 for Andrews. So this is expected to spread further. Now let's go check on early look on Texas. Texas, there's some things going on down there that are making people nervous. Look at Tallarico early on, 715 ,000 vote lead with 18.2 % margin and 39, almost 40 % of the vote in. This was supposed to be, oh, the turnout will be there.

1:58:11That's what I was thinking. I was hoping there's a lot more to count in Texas. but Paxton is going to have to overcome 715 ,000 vote deficit. Let me ask you a question. Did you just say 715 ,000 deficit? That is exactly right. Tallarico is sitting at 2.3 and Ken Paxton sitting at 1.5, 1.6, almost 1.6. Wow. With about 30, see, what do we got? Almost 40 % of the vote in Texas. This so there's all of the seven, the seven that were on the edge and everything. Oh, we can show you Ohio, Ohio Senate. Look what Sherrod Brown is doing to John Husted. It's a nine point two percent lead with forty five percent of the vote in.

1:58:57Sherrod Brown has now a two hundred thousand vote lead in Ohio. So with the exception of Ashley Moody, I haven't shown you a lead or a call for a single Republican senator. in those seven toss-ups, which are not really toss-ups. That is pretty wild. That is pretty wild. So do we have Glenn Beck ready in the back? Let me know if Glenn Beck is ready, the great Glenn Beck. Glenn, if you can see me and hear me. He's an optimist because he is an optimist. Let's see. Glenn, how are you? How are you doing? There he is. Hey, how are you, my man? How are you? How are you doing? I'm really good. I'm really good.

1:59:32Did you see the numbers on Tallarico having a 715 ,000-vote lead on Paxton? did you see my mouth say shut up okay so how are you feeling what are you thinking what's going on bad what are you thinking what's going on we had seven percent population increase in uh texas a lot of it came from or sorry is it four percent in four years seven percent in the last four years a lot of it came from california um you have uh texans actual texans who are very conservative sick of quite honestly of of uh of the governor they don't think he i mean they think ron desantis was more of a texan than texas was during covid and everything else they don't see him as somebody who's actually really guns a blazing um paxton they just they don't trust him he's he ran the worst campaign i've ever seen anybody run it's like he wasn't even running um uh and he just wasn't trustworthy to too many people here in Texas.

2:00:42And, you know, and then on top of that, you have the president being the best out of all of them. And still, he didn't get the message right. I mean, El Syed had the, I think, had the best campaign slogan out of anybody I've seen in the country. And that is more money in your pocket. What was it? More money in your pocket. More money out of politics. Islamic rituals or money out of politics. Money in your pocket. Medicare for all. And money, yeah, and health care for all. I mean, he was talking about the things, or at least the slogan was, that I think people are concerned about. And I didn't see anybody.

2:01:21What is the message of the Republicans? Patrick, what is it? I don't know. I got to tell you, I told this earlier. I said there's four different types of voters. The type of voter is those you lose to the opposing party. that just don't want to vote for you, Republicans or Democrats. Number two is those who sit out and they're like, you know what? I'm not even going to vote for anybody. Number three is those who vote for you but don't tell anybody. And then the last one is the highest level, which is what you want. Those that vote for you and want to tell everybody what they're excited about voting for you.

2:01:51I don't know who the Republicans had that everybody's going out saying, hey, Glenn, you got to vote for this guy. He's amazing. I don't know if they have somebody like that on this. I don't think they did. I don't think they did. They don't have a message. Here's a good thing, Patrick. I think there's a chance that this resets the Republican Party entirely. It's just bad. It's just bad. I will tell you that if it turns out to be a landslide and a very bad night for Republicans, the Democrats, especially the El Sayeds, the AOCs and the Marxists are all going to beat their chest and say it's us and it's our message.

2:02:36And that's going to cause an internal fracture with those few Democrats who will still go, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. I am not for this. This is too far. And I think it could turn out to be it's going to be really tough, but it could turn out to be the best thing to happen to us. I learned my lesson in 2020 of stop saying, oh, this is the end of the world. It's going to be horrible. We wouldn't have had the Donald Trump that we have today had it not been for him losing in 2020. So it turned out to be a really good thing for us in the end. We had four years of pain. We might have two years of really bad pain, but they might get so crazy and so radical that the Republicans are scared straight and you sweep in 28.

2:03:25I want to ask you a question since I have you right now. You had a clip that went viral last week, and you said the last time I said something like this, it was 2008. I don't know exactly how you said it, but you prefaced it in something like that. So the concern, there's a lot of people. Yesterday at 2 a.m., one of U.S.'s drones was shot down, I believe near Cargill and Kesh, Kesh Island that's out there, and then U.S. retaliated, no casualties, nobody was killed, nothing happened there. But a lot of people are concerned, you know, of, hey, is something going to be happening? You think right after this, if the election is lost and Trump's not going to be happy, could it lead to a war?

2:04:01Could it lead to something happening with the grid being down? Has your position changed? Are you still in the same skeptical point? No, and it wasn't because of the war. I've been watching this, Patrick, you know, I've been watching this forever. Yep. And I've been watching the Green-Red Alliance. I've been watching Marxism. I've been watching from the Arab Spring all the way. And this is a very well-crafted plan. This, to me, what I'm watching tonight and what I'm going to be watching over the next six months for elections all over the world, this is the first global election. The same tactics are being used by many of the same people.

2:04:40The same policies are being passed. the same. I mean, you had Slotkin come out this weekend or, I mean, a couple of months ago, talk about she's she and the Democrats are going to use the iron broom. I didn't know what that meant until what happened this weekend in Poland. The iron broom is what they just did with the kind of quasi coup in Poland. They'll teach the other side a lesson. So we're seeing the same tactics everywhere. I also am really concerned about hacking. More information came out on that this week. You know, freezers are being shut down. We had we have I think how many, Jason, was it like 20 different countries now are saying you need to have supplies?

2:05:23You need to be self-sufficient. The government may not be able to respond right away. There are too many things that are happening all around the world that are putting us in a very precarious situation. And I us as the West. And I think 27 is going to be a very dicey year when it comes to the war in Iran. I absolutely think the president is going to go out because if he especially if he loses the Senate, this Senate, there are members that look at Iran as a bigger ally than the United States of America. And I think he's he knows if they get in, they will cut off the funding. they will shut this war down uh he has got to win how he does that i don't know it's not going to be with nukes uh and it's not going to be with troops but i i would imagine if it's a bad night tonight not because he's angry or anything else because he knows he's now on a very short timeline of january and he's gonna hammer the bats knot out of these guys he's got to kill 3 000 irg members irgc members at least 3 000 of them he's got to kill them um and then somebody's got to give the streets guns uh and if the people will rise up and he can kill enough of the irgc members we have a chance of turning this around yeah i mean that's that's what a lot of people are worried about and they're sitting there saying if this attack goes and if he doesn't by the way and this extends into a long war then that means the republic is not going to lose in 2028 and so then an aoc gets electorate my opinion is if this war prolongs and he's not able to get it done in the next 60 days he'll be gridlocked which means he can't do anything then if it prolongs even more gas prices stay high interest let's say warsh doesn't bring it down and the economy is not necessarily getting fluid then 2028 aoc will be your president in 2020 my guesstimation not saying you agree with that that's just my guesstimation glenn always great having you on uh we look forward to having you on the podcast you're along from together here soon thank you so much for your time thanks yes appreciate you all right so james what do you think about what he had to say here i think gledbeck's right that republicans what are we running on anymore we we know what we're against we're against drag queens we're against socialism we're against all of this what are we running for abdul el sayed is going to be the next united states senator from michigan that is a fact at this point.

2:07:54What did he run on? He ran, his catchphrase was money out of politics, money in your pocket, Medicare for all. Now, politics aside, political substance aside, there's not a single Republican who ran in this election who could sum up their platform in a positive, affirmative vision. Do I actually think that Abdul is going to get you free healthcare? No. Do I actually think he's going to get money out of politics? No. But Republicans aren't even trying. So allow me to try, if I may, Pat, if I could do the Abdul-esque affirmative statement for what Republicans should be fighting for in 2028. Fight for the middle class, stay out of the Middle East, and defend the United States Constitution.

2:08:35For 2028. Were you joking when he said you're going to run for office in 2028? I was being sarcastic. But the point is, Pat, we have to run for something, not merely against it. If you went to the halls of Congress and asked a Republican. Why should we vote for you? They're going to tell you about how the other guy is a fascist or a socialist or a crazy kook. They're not going to tell you affirmatively why we should vote for them. I also want to take the opportunity. I know you just called the race for Ashley Moody here in Florida. I want to congratulate her. It's all but certain that Byron Donald's Republican, my former competitor, is going to win this race.

2:09:06And I want to directly speak to the governor-elect Byron Donald tonight. Congratulate you on your win. This was a close win, governor-elect. It's now your obligation to bridge what was a one-point victory to unite the state of Florida. Floridians from the panhandle to Miami, I spoke with them, you spoke with them, they are looking for real unity at this time, and I want to congratulate the governor-elect on this victory, and I hope that he has an opportunity to lead the state with courage. Thank you for that, guys. Here's what I want to, I want to get to the next part, so Ben Burgess, James Fishback, if you guys can dismiss yourself, if I can get Roger Stone up on stage here, as well as Robert Davi.

2:09:43If Robert Davi's Anybody knows Robert Davi, the actor? If we can get those two coming up here, Roger Stone always comes up with his beautifuls. Make some noise for our next guest coming up. So this is what we're going to be talking about. Eduardo, if you can also be dismissed, we'll bring you back. I want to have Brian Callen come up. Thank you also, Eduardo, for your time. Appreciate you for coming down. So here's what I want to talk to you guys about. And I want to surprise you a little bit, and I want to see how you react to it, James. You're here also intentionally, not just stay quiet because you're rarely quiet, but we need your insight for this as well.

2:10:13Roger Stone, pleasure meeting you. You look amazing. Roger, great having you here. Roger, great to have you here. Look amazing as usual. If you like Roger's suits, Roger Stone sells suits, his own suits. All right, so let's get into this. Let's get into this. And I want to get a little bit spicy, and folks in the audience listening to this, comment, tweet at me. I want to hear your thoughts on who you would like to see run. I personally am committed to calling people to say, you got to run in 2028, 2032, 2036. We got to get a deeper bench with the values that we believe in. Capitalism, free market, freedom of speech, freedom of assembly.

2:10:49So we came up with this list. And the list we used, Roger wrote a book many years ago. I think it was called Roger's Rules or Stone's Rules? Stone's Rules. If we can go to the second slide, I call this the first round draft picks. Celebrities to office. And the seven ways we scored everybody is the following. Number one is name recognition. Does this person have name recognition? Roger was one of the first folks in the early 80s when he met Donald Trump. He says, I think this guy has what it takes to run for president. People thought he was crazy. He ended up being right twice specifically with that case.

2:11:24So name recognition. Do people know who this person is? Number two, charisma. Does this person have charisma? Number three, media savvy. Do they know how to handle the camera, all this stuff like Stephen A? Number four, fearlessness. Do they know how to absorb controversy and readiness to challenge power? Number five, authentic. Is this person authentic? Number six, independence, willingness, and ability to defy institutions. And last but not least, free publicity. Can they just get free publicity and the market talks about them? Based on this, we took a list of names. We put it into AI. We scored it.

2:11:57And we got a top 50. So I'm going to name them from 50 to number one. And when you see some of these names, Etienne, I'll come to you guys. I want to hear from all of you. Roger, I'm going to come to you first. Who is a hell no? Who are you shocked? Who else you'd want to nominate? but let's go through it. So number 50, the scores that we got up there, Bob Iger ranked as number 50, and Bob's leak was fearlessness. He's trying to, you know, kind of vanilla walks, you know, worried about what people are going to think. Mr. Beast was 49, Jamie Dimon 48, Dwayne Johnson 47, Palmer Luckey. Palmer Luckey was the founder of Oculus, and also Andrew, who's developing all these drones.

2:12:36He scored higher than Dwayne Johnson. When we looked at the AI, we said, why is that? Dwayne Johnson scored very low on fearlessness, 5.6, because he doesn't want to offend people. And Palmer Luckey scored low on people don't know who he is. How many of you guys have never heard of Palmer Luckey before? Raise your hand if you've never heard of him. Most people don't know who he is. He's working on that. 45, the good-looking Tom Brady is on that list. 44, Scott Galloway. 43, Spencer Pratt. He showed he can debate and campaign in L.A. 42 is Jocko Willink. 41 is Eva Longoria. Number 40 is John Morgan, the guy from Morgan & Morgan, lawyer, billionaire.

2:13:13He likes media. He knows how to get free publicity. Then we have Anthony Scaramucci, an old friend of yours. Adam Carolla, Ben Shapiro, Charlemagne Tha God at 36th spot. 35th, we had Sean Ryan, the podcaster. Pat McAfee. Anybody knows Pat McAfee? He was 34th. Kim Kardashian, the great Kim Kardashian, 33. Matthew McConaughey, 32. 32, Alex Cooper, a podcast you probably don't listen to, but Alex Cooper, Caller Daddy 31st, Rachel Maddow, sweetheart, 30th. Hassan Piker came up as 29th. Hassan Piker scored 29th. Whether you like it or not, this is not about who you like and who you don't like. It's scoring.

2:13:54Stay with us. 28th was Glenn Beck. We just had Glenn Beck on here a minute ago. George Clooney, 27th. Jimmy Kemmel, 26th. Robert De Niro, 25th. colbert 24 aaron rogers 23 high score on fearlessness 9.8 taylor swift 22nd dana white 21st now we're in the top 20 okay you guys get can you scream out who you think's going to be in the top 20 on three if you have somebody in mind one two three who do you think all right mark cuban's on that list lebron james 20th stephen a smith 19 i gotta send this to him Oprah Winfrey, 18. Jake Paul and Logan Paul, neck and neck. Look at that. They both scored 9.27.

2:14:36Even though all the individual scores were different, they only got a 9.27. Andrew Schultz scored 15th. Surprisingly so. Candace Owens, number 14. Kid Rock, 13. Megan Kelly, 12. Mark Cuban, 11. Now we're going into top 10. You ready for this, Callan? Who do you think is going to be number one? You have a guess? I don't have a guess. You don't have a guess? let me go through this number 10 i i think i do actually nikki minaj is number 10 joe rogan's got to be in there somewhere joe is in it nikki minaj is number 10 number nine deon sanders we were blown away that he scored so high but remember this is a family guy colorado talks about his kids yes number eight cardi b was number eight if you got nikki minaj you got cardi b yeah good look number seven bill maher is number seven and by the way he's interesting lately right number six elon musk although he can't run for president number five dave portnoy he's out there number four john stewart number three tucker carlson which leaves what number two joe rogan and you know who number one is you will not be able to guess not at all you ready we didn't even put me on that list number one charles barkley came up as number one for the list.

2:15:53Charles Barkley? Charles Barkley came up number one on this list. And by the way, if you're watching this, is draft, by the way, is the word draft? If you're watching this, you want to get the PDF, text the word draft to 310-340-1132. We're going to send this to you again. Text the word draft, D-R-A-F-T, 310-340-1132. We're going to send this over to you. So what do you think Well, first of all, the criteria we're using, which is likability. Be careful with the criteria. He came up with it. Well, I understand. I think these are facts. Yeah, I'm saying that this is different, I think, in my lifetime.

2:16:30Thank you, social media. We're not really looking at people who have necessarily, with all due respect to all of them, a formidable intellect or a track record of solving problems or an articulated philosophy. we're looking at sharp profiles charisma likability that's not what you need to run a country that's what you need to win an election there's a big difference between the kind of personality that wins an election versus running a country i said it out loud go ahead roger take me to town take me to scott can you put the mic a little closer please he's absolutely right what a candidate must have is vision vision for the country a driving vision yes name id is important Yes, fundraising capabilities are important.

2:17:15Yes, charisma is important. Yes, a following is important. But that's really a measure largely of name ID. If you don't have a larger vision to beat back globalism, to preserve the American Constitution, the free enterprise system, capitalism, if you don't have that vision, then you're not right to lead the country. Roger, let me ask you this. Of all the seven things that you talk about, name recognition, charisma, media savvy, fearlessness, authenticity, independence, free publicity. What's the most important amongst these seven? The universal name ID is extraordinarily hard to get. Remember, Donald Trump kind of had the apprentice all to himself.

2:17:51So through the apprentice, he becomes ubiquitous. Every American knows the most prominent capitalist businessman, outsider in the country. That's why his candidacy is unique. He doesn't have to start by telling people who he is. They already know who he is. He just has to start talking about the problems of immigration or the degradation of our military or getting screwed by our NATO allies. These are issues that he's talking about beginning in 1988. Did you see anybody on this list? He's got the standing already. Did you see anybody on this list that you said, yeah, I can see those guys running?

2:18:24Spencer Pratt's the only one there that has anything close to vision. The rest of them are largely entertainers or great athletes. Now, I do think it's transferable. Reagan proved that, but Reagan had vision in spades. He had his background. Interesting. So you need a vision. Without it, forget about it. Nixon wrote very extensive about this key element in a presidential candidate. I read the – Michael, what would you say? Well, can you get into that place without having a vision? Because you have those other characteristics. That's the thing. You know, that would worry me. Well, for me, it's kind of like a draft pick.

2:18:56Like, hey, you're seven feet tall. I'm looking for a center. Whether you love the basketball game or not, your name is Andrew Bynum. You're seven feet tall. I've got to teach you a couple things, and I've got a seven feet tall. So if I have these scores, can somebody go in there and say, hey, have you ever thought about running for president? What if you go out there and become the president and you use that talent to put him up there? Is that something you could do? Again, I think the person has to have the instinct to begin with. Reagan had an instinct. Reagan was an instinctive conservative.

2:19:22He had charisma. He had standing as a movie star. He'd been a union leader and so on. I think it is. He had values too, though, didn't he, Roger? He was very good at articulating what he stood for in that old-fashioned sense, didn't he yes i don't see that he also had a radio show he was in media yeah with politics forever you know i mean the governor of california in 1946 when he fought the communists something we should talk about it is interesting in our government and in what's going on with our politicians there's no one with the vision of saying we've got communism in the country we've got to worry about that it's i've asked a couple of the youth today in backstage i won't mention who?

2:20:01Do you know who David Horowitz is? Have you ever read Unholy Alliance, Radical Islam and the American Left? No. Did you know who Bill Ayers and when the underground was when they said, well, I want to take the white liberal and the black liberation movement and create a fighting force to bring down American imperialism and institute world communism? It's the green thing now today. But this was back then in the 60s. Without someone that has a certain kind of prescient understanding of the past, we're dead. We're dead because the youth isn't learning about it, the educators aren't, and the politicians don't understand culture.

2:20:36The politicians don't know how to communicate to the American people. Most of the Democrats, because they embrace culture, go to Hollywood, and they understand how to say, like what Tellurico said yesterday, the common man. We need to find the common man, and we need to find affordability. Meanwhile, the GOP has better ideas, but they talk this way. They're not reaching. And the youth hears that, and they're not responding. None of those people up there have that ability that you mentioned. Okay, so here's a question for you. Here's a question for you. I remember one time a guy in Granada Hills told me, I've got to introduce you to this pastor.

2:21:14He knows everything about the Scripture, and anything you say, he can recite it to you without even looking at the Bible. So I go and meet this guy. I sit down. He says, ask him any Scripture. Deuteronomy this, whatever you want. I ask him. He knows it. You have Revelations. He knows it. Corinthians, he knows it. Then he says, you got to come to the church on Sunday. I said, how long has the church been here? It's been here for 20 years. I've been the senior pastor here for 20 years. I'm thinking I'm going to a church with 20 ,000 members. I go to church on Sunday. 70 people showed up. And he gets up on stage.

2:21:44So you know what it was? He may have known all this stuff, but he doesn't know how to resonate and move people. So the challenge then becomes the following. I'm in the business right now of getting certain people to say, hey, America matters. You have the platform. Let's go. You got to run. So I'm trying to find out the sequencing here. Do a group of people go and sit there and say, you have a platform, you have the capability, you're getting the eyeballs, you have the money, you have the way of fighting people. I think you need to get in the arena. No, I don't want to do that. The other day I'm at a wedding.

2:22:13I'm running around trying to find this guy named Trey Gowdy. Anybody knows who Trey Gowdy is? I don't know if you know who Trey Gowdy is. You obviously know who Trey Gowdy is. I love Trey Gowdy. I'm like, why are you not in the arena? Why are you not fighting? There are certain people that I think have the dog, but they're so afraid. It's almost like the people that are running. Do you know Tom just texted me right now what he's telling me? He says Tallarico is now up 829 ,000 votes. 40 % has counted for. Paxton has to win the rest. 57 % for Texas to lose a senator to the Democratic side. Why?

2:22:44Is Paxton a marketable candidate? He may know a lot about AG and all the other stuff, but you need marketable candidates. So what do we do to go draft some of these guys? To paint. Tellurico said something, God is not binary, or God is binary, or whatever he said. Non-binary. And the problem with that is the GOP didn't say, excuse me, the Bible says Adam and Eve. God may love all people, but God is not non-binary, or whatever it might be. You have to see, if the Bible was non-binary, then why were there not Adam and Eve and Joseph and idiot and the baboo and marry and turn into this. But it's not.

2:23:21But they don't know how to then combat that because it resonates to certain people, not to denigrate anyone's sexuality or anyone's proclivity, but the idea of not understanding how to combat the attack of the left and use culture and use linguistics. You're not answering my question, though. You've got to put yourself in the arena. Your question was how do you get... I'm not asking about Adam and Steve. I mean, I leave those guys around. Talarico believes all the Adam and Steve, not Adam and Eve. What I'm asking is, I'm in the pipeline business. And what do I mean by the pipeline business? Look at who we've had today.

2:23:55We've had a lot of different minds. We had a great moment of debate between Ben and Eduardo and yourself. This is good. We are able to make up our minds because you're making the show. You make the show, right? Because we have a pipeline of guests. Well, we get different perspectives to hear. Where is the pipeline of people to get inspired to run who have the platform? Him and I spoke, and I said, man, this guy's got to run for prime minister. He was a star last time. Who remembers election night with Dominic Tarjinsky when him and Jenks spoke, and he went viral. He was all over the place. There's opportunities for us to say, hey, I think you've got to nudge and run.

2:24:28James, I'm going to come to you first, and then Dominic, I'll come to you. What do you think about this conversation of getting some of these guys to run? I think the problem is leadership is a liability, and they're going to put you in jail if you effectively do the thing you're going to do. I mean, how many times has Trump been sued? Hundreds? It's all about to begin again. 5 % of that. But at this point in time, this country is so utterly divided. I don't know how you unite people around a single vision. And 30 years ago, I saw the old clip of the Raging Cajun, which is named Carville, I distributed.

2:24:59And he said, when he ran against George H.W. Bush, he said a comment like, well, we didn't think he was evil. We disagreed with him. Now it seems irreconcilable. So for me, like I looked at that list, I happened to think, well, Tom Brady is an interesting choice. He's charismatic. He's a champion. He's a Christian. Christian, good name recognition. But if I'm Tom Brady, do I really want to run for president and then face 200 lawsuits and be incarcerated? No, but that's the problem. And you and I talked about this one time. You called me about five, six, you know which call I'm talking about. I'm not going to reveal what the conversation was about.

2:25:31And I said, no, James, you're a fighter. God's using you. You've got to be in there. Sometimes we get called upon to do something that, you know, maybe is not the most exciting thing to do. Maybe you've got a pretty good life and you don't really want to do it. I mean, Trump, before he ran, he had a phenomenal life. Who loved him? He was hip-hop, rappers, Tupac, Home Alone, everything. But he chose to do it because maybe he saw an enemy. I think a part of that messaging for us to give, we're scaring a person like Tom Brady away instead of saying, I'm sorry, where did you make your money and what country?

2:26:04Was it in Malaysia? Was it in Russia? If I was it in, no, it was in America. And I think eventually when I read the book of the Bush family and the Kennedy family, one of the things I liked that they had in their family at the end was later, after you make your money, you have three ways to give back to your country. Either go give to clergy, either go give to the government, or go give to a nonprofit. But one of those three ways you got to give. And I think we need to challenge them a little bit to say, hey, why not you? Why not you? You have the control. go do something. I called one of my pastors the other day, and I went and met with him, and we had this meeting, and he says, what's this meeting about?

2:26:43I said, you know why I'm here? I says, he says, no. I said, I think you need to run for the governor of California. He says, what? I said, you need to run for the governor of California. I'm a pastor. We need more pastors running. You know how to get, you speak every week. Every week you're debating other people on different religions. You have the ability to debate. Let's go. So it's a part of the fear, like today we're talking to a group of ours are like oh my god tonight election night's not going to be as good as 2024 so how are you going to handle it to keep the audience entertained and all this other stuff how do you think the opponent kills you they steal one thing away from you it's hope the moment you lose hope you're done and that's how the enemy wins half the time i want the opposite i want to say you think you want to dominate it let's start thinking long term with a big pipeline of people that should run that's all i'm saying and i'm using his playbook on what he's talking about so my encouragement is more as we're going through this shit show on what they did to trump you know what they're trying to tell you hey james if you run we're gonna do to you as we did with trump that's how they're winning and that's that's why one of the most important things on this list you know what it is number four fearlessness baby i fear this country is worth the fearlessness that's all i'm saying but that's the hardest thing to find i believe i have one quick trump anecdote i know you'll appreciate this.

2:27:592024, May, Trump's in Manhattan dealing with all this. And I did a story in the CIA. I recorded a guy in the CIA saying they were withholding information from Trump. And Trump invites me up to his house in Trump Tower. And he's watching the video. He gives a reaction. And I asked him a question. I said, how do you deal with this? I've been sued. I've been incarcerated. I know it's difficult. And he's signing a hat for my dad. And Trump says, I just don't care I just don't care and he meant it and how many people can actually say that and mean it he's a fighter an American's perspective fighter if you want to raise your profile you put your ideas out there in the marketplace and I'd say to every Republican you got to go out there there's one thing about this guy right here Dominic if you're a Republican and you want to up your profile you want to disappear don't debate your opponent You should be constantly calling to say, hey, you and I right here, City Hall, name it, anywhere, and I will take my ideas that made this country great, and I will pit them against your new ideas as you're trying to reinvent the wheel.

2:29:04And that's how you do it. That's how you raise your money. I agree. And, again, a part of what makes Dominic attractive, and I'll come to you last. I want you to give your thoughts because we've got Pierce Morgan here waiting for us to come to him next. Pierce, we're going to come to you in a minute. Hello, Pierce, from Dominic. Oh, Dominic, your thoughts on what we're talking about here. Okay, from my perspective as a politician, I'm 20 years in politics. First of all, it's motivation. Why do you want to do politics? Because of revenge? Because of ego? Because of good money? Or maybe because you want a legacy when you're gone?

2:29:42So I think the most important is to answer the question. What is your motivation? What is the motivation? What would be the motivation for these people? Right? I don't know, well-known sport people or, I don't know, celebrities. What would be the motivation? Right? My motivation is the history of my family. Communists spit on my mom. My grandpa father fought against them. My father was the founder of the Solidarity Movement against communists. And I hate them. I can say that. I hate jihadists. that's what i do and that's why i do what i do we heard that we should be focused on very positive message of course my message is positive i do not want jihadists because i love my family i don't want to kill them i don't want them to come but that's that's the reality so very important fearless yeah you have to be but when you can be fearless as a politician when you are not owned by anyone.

2:30:46I'm not owned. Nobody ever gave me even a penny. I didn't take money from anyone. I don't give a single anything, right? I don't care. I'm going to go to him because I'm going to come to you. I have to go due to time. Do we have Pierce on there? Pierce, are you with us? It's a machine that he has taken on. It is literally everyone in the entire political establishment. Okay, we've got Patrick, I think, now. Patrick, can you hear me? Yes, how are you? How are you doing? Great to see you, my friend. What is your reading of where we are? It looks like, on the face of it, it's a blue wave, possibly tsunami.

2:31:19What's your take? I think that's probably a good word to use. I'm looking at Tallarico now. It's got a 1.13 million lead in votes over Paxton. Why do you think that's the case? Why do you think this is taking place right now? Well, because Paxton is a diabolical candidate, for one. And because it's interesting, you know, I was going to say to you that the exit polls, that AP have been conducting with people. Six out of ten, the US made the wrong decision attacking Iran. 90 % say government corruption is a major factor in their vote. Six out of ten disapprove of Trump's use of ICE. Six out of ten say higher prices are because of Trump's policies.

2:32:00And the economy is the biggest issue on the exit polls. Most people think Trump has handled it badly. You know, I think you can look at all this and think Trump started so well in his second term and it's very quickly gone, as we would say in the UK, tits up. Tits up, as you call it. So, by the way, we use different words, but it is good that I don't think you're in UK, though. You know you're in a city that believes in America. We believe in Second Amendment. Are you in D.C. right now? That's a beautiful backdrop where you are. Yeah. You're in BC. That's the capital behind me. Yes. The capital of a beautiful country, which, by the way, you swap.

2:32:41You come here and you go back to UK. Tell me about what you think about what's going on with Michigan with Abdul. I don't know if you've had a conversation with him. I know you talk to everybody. What do you think about what he's doing against his competitor? Yeah, no, I've not talked to him. I think I was saying earlier on the show that my view of the Al-Sayed thing is multifaceted. One, Paxton's a terrible candidate to put up against him. Clearly, Al-Sayed is very, he's dynamic, he's eloquent, he's a great talker. Sorry? You said to Mike Rogers. Sorry, Mike Rogers. Sorry, Rogers is, to me, the wrong guy to put up against someone like Al-Sayed.

2:33:19You've got a young, dynamic, progressive left guy who's making Rogers look like an old fuddy-duddy. And I think the Hayley Stephens thing massively played well for Al-Sayed and was a pathetic piece of personal politicking of the worst kind. But I also think that he's been over demonized. I'm interested in your view of this, Patrick, because I think that Al-Sayed, if you constantly call this guy a jihadist terrorist when he's not, it's a bit like constantly calling Trump a Nazi when he's not. It just helps Trump when you do that. And it's helped Al-Sayed to, in my view, over demonize him. Yeah, I think the only difference is Trump's sister never supported the Nazi 12 years ago in a tweet.

2:34:01I think that's the biggest difference. and al-Said's sister 12 years ago tweeted supporting MB Muslim Brotherhood and quite frankly I know it's a different case in UK than it is in US but a lot of people in America are slightly uncomfortable with the possibilities of what could happen when your sister and family supports Muslim Brotherhood that's the concern what do you say to that? Yeah but I remember yeah well I remember being I just joined CNN when the Arab Spring happened one of the first things I had to cover as an anchor, replacing Larry King. And I remember a lot of people talking in that kind of way about the Muslim Brotherhood at the time.

2:34:37So, you know, it looks different today, but if you go back to when the Arab Spring happened, that was not an unusual sentiment. In fact, Mike Rogers, I think they revealed he'd been saying similar things at the time about the Muslim Brotherhood. So, again, I come back to, you know, do you genuinely believe, Patrick, that Abdullah al-Sayed is a jihadist terrorist? I honestly don't know because every time he's been asked, he gets very uncomfortable with it. He's not somebody that gets comfortable with that statement. But I'll come to you with a different question, Piers. You live in U.K., right?

2:35:09You know, Rupert Lowe did a report saying 250 ,000 girls were raped by, I think, 87 percent of them were Pakistanis. Are you at all concerned when we hear about the stories of the invasion with all these immigrants coming in? Because you had Dominic Charginski on, I think, a week ago or two weeks ago on your podcast. I thought it was a great show. And this is one thing that I love. A lot of people criticize you and they take a lot of shots. I think you're doing a phenomenal job. And I think we need more format because your skin is thick. You're willing to have the conversation with anybody. But why do you think it is that Poland's unemployment, rape and crime is the lowest amongst EU and they don't take any immigrants coming from places like Pakistan?

2:35:48Why do you think that is? Well, in answer to your various points there, I mean, the grooming gang scandal in the UK was a total disgrace. The perpetrators were predominantly in the particular scandal where there was a shameful cover-up, were predominantly British Pakistani men. That is indisputable. It's a fact. Many young white girls were appallingly raped and abused and mistreated. And there was a systematic cover-up driven by a fear of being branded racist, which was a stain on my country and should never have happened. I would add to that that a successive government since the start of the century, led by Tony Blair actually opening the front gates to Eastern Europe, there's been a complete failure to control immigration in the UK this century.

2:36:34And as a consequence, the population has shot through the roof. And we have the added thing, not just of the boats coming over from France, where tens of thousands of illegal immigrants come in and get on the shore. And then we put them in these often three, four-star hotels, which drives locals around them completely, crackers, understandably. But also the rising population with so many immigrants coming in, legal and illegal. The main problem has been legal, actually, with, for a long time, families being able to come in mob-handed, like five, six, seven members of a family coming in with one person who got a visa.

2:37:12And the problem with that is it has put enormous strain on public services which were already under enormous strain. And an example I give you, like the National Health Service, when it was first started in the UK with free health care for all, it was an amazing thing. started in the 50s, but it was designed for a population of the UK of 50 million people. The population of the UK is now nearly 70 million people. So in the space of, what, 70, 80 years, you've got a 40 % rise in the population, but you have the same kind of infrastructure around the health service. If you extrapolate that to all the other public services, this massive rise in our population has been unsustainable.

2:37:52And successive governments, conservative and left-wing, have completely failed to deal with this. And it has been a rising big issue. So I think these things are all inarguable. Piers, I respect the fact that you said that just right now. So the bigger fear in America is they watch. When I talk to a lot of people, we have a lot of different people from different walks of life here. When we talk to people here and they watch what's going on in Germany or France or UK, they simply don't want to see that happening in America. That's it. And by the way, Michigan. But Patrick, I see a lot of Americans, for some reason, I think it's driven by people like Rupert Lowe, by Tommy Robinson, who's not even Tommy Robinson, by the way.

2:38:36His name's Stephen Yaxley. And these guys have been whipping up, in my opinion, I live a lot of the time in the UK. I was born and raised there. I have a place in London. I travel around the UK a lot. I was in the Midlands in Birmingham recently and so on. I do not recognize in any way this suggestion that we've been invaded by Muslims. It's just not true. The Muslim population in the UK is still 5, 6 % of the country. There's no invasion. There's no invasion. I live in a very multicultural city, London, and it's just not true. 65 ,000 people are charged and prosecuted for criticizing radical Muslim or other politically incorrect statements on the Internet.

2:39:21There's oppression going on in the UK. That's Roger Stone talking about how many people can't criticize. Yeah, the numbers aren't as big as that, but there's been a ridiculous number of people who've been arrested for comments on social media. I think that flies in the face of Britain's adherence to free speech, and it shouldn't be happening. But there's also been a significant fall in violent crime in the UK, which is never mentioned in the United States, but is an incontrovertible fact. violent crime has been steadily falling in recent years. So this idea there's a Muslim invasion, which has led to a massive increase in violent crime, is simply not true.

2:40:01And we have, I think, a Muslim population, 5 % to 6%. America has, what, 5, 6 million Muslims, I think. And the vast majority assimilate well in both countries and don't cause any trouble. So I just say we've got to keep these things in some kind of proper perspective. I don't know why it is, but a lot of Americans, fueled, I think, by the likes of Tommy Robinson and others, have this impression we've been invaded and the whole country is out of control. Honestly, I live there. It's not true. It's 100 % true. You're blind or you want to be blind. That's number one. And the answer is my question.

2:40:40Why we do not have these problems in Poland? Why? Why peace? Why we do not have these problems? Why? We don't even discuss it. Over 7 million, over 7 million Ukrainians cross Polish border when the war started. Over 2 million stayed in Poland. There's no problem. There's no problem at all. That's why I said Islam is not compatible with the Western values as we know. Yes, but I would say to you, look, I had you on my show because I respect the fact that you have a big following in Poland. Thank you very much. I enjoyed our debate. The moment you lost me was when you said you would ban all Muslims from your country.

2:41:18Of course I would. And you thought Britain should ban all Muslims. Of course I would, just like Christian churches are banned in Saudi Arabia or Qatar. That's the same thing. I think we are equal. but just right but just to remind you that you know there are two billion muslims on the planet yeah that's why let them stay let them go to qatar in saudis they can go why would you be so but why would you be so bigoted against two billion people i told you because it's better to be a bigot but alive than a sold out to qataris i told you i answered i want to be a live bigot let me be a live bigot let me be christian let me eat my pork i i want to live as i want i do not want sharia law and this is what is happening.

2:42:00Who's stopping you? Sorry, who is stopping you eating your pork? I give you a story that I gave this story to Patrick recently. I tell you who schools in Brussels. You see on what where are you now? Are you on earth? There's this a very well-known case where little girl was her mom was asked to come to school because her sandwich with the pork was offensive to other students if you do not know these cases we shouldn't even discuss this subject that's a very well known case there is no there's more there is no christmas trees there is no merry christmas happy holiday do not be offensive i want christmas i want christ okay this is christian continent why don't you come to london during christmas right in christmas week you'll see lots of Christmas trees and you will eat lots of pork.

2:42:53There's no problem. You're allowed to eat pork in the UK. You're allowed to celebrate Christmas. Trust me, I will be doing both. I love pork and I love Christmas. Thank you very much, but I don't have security in limo just like you. I don't live in this beautiful part of London. I don't have security in all limos. I don't have either. The reality is, Piers, listen. Reality is zero illegal immigration means zero problems. like in poland be like poland pierce come on be like poland i was there but i've already said to i was in london filming pierce i was in london filming a couple of months ago and i was walking around and i was told by the police that's under sharia jurisdiction don't go in there that that to me what is that in london and i've been in london since the 80s Hang on, hang on, look.

2:43:43There are no legally standing Sharia courts in the United Kingdom. Yeah, they are illegal, you're right, but they are there. That's the problem. That is the problem. But none of them have legal standing in the UK over British law, and they're not going to. But we do not have this problem in Poland, because there is zero jihadists in Poland. Just like the right word. There is no problem, we don't have to discuss it. Or Romania or Hungary. I like Poland. I love Poland. That's why I do what I do. I've been to Poland a few times. You are very welcome to come and see the difference, Piers. I'll buy you a nice pork sandwich.

2:44:22We can go out at 2 o 'clock in the morning to centre in Warsaw. You're welcome. I'll pay for your flight. I'm not that rich as you, but I'll get you a flight. I'll get you a hotel. We're going to go out. We're going to have a sandwich and ham at 2 o 'clock in the morning on Saturday night. You will see the difference between London and Warsaw. Last time I was there, though, I remember going to a football match in Poland, and I don't think I've ever feared for my life more than I did on that match. So the idea that you lot are somehow blameless from being violent at all is for the birds. You're a very tough country with a lot of tough people, as is my country.

2:44:57Poland is not perfect, and the UK is not perfect. I'm prepared to accept our flaws. What I'm not prepared to accept is that my country has been overrun by Muslim invasion because it's a load of bullshit. Okay, so what about new mayor of Birmingham? Can he speak English? Can he? The mayor of Birmingham? Yes. Can he speak English? Yeah, I assume he can. I haven't met him, but I assume he can. I've got some doubts. That's number one. What about slams? What about slams? I haven't finished yet. I haven't finished yet. The reality in Great Britain is you cannot win any local elections without official support from Muslim communities.

2:45:36Is it true, Piers? absolute nonsense okay then we are on the different planets I lived in London for you know that I can I can see the difference my family is dead now I know what is the difference and the fact that I was banned traveling on my diplomatic passport is the fundamental proof that there is no freedom because your country sorry just to be clear I wouldn't ban you if I was running so you but i'm not you keep telling me uh us yes we've got problem with this it shouldn't happen i wouldn't do it and then you say oh it's great it's okay you see every single argument i'm making the point i'm making the point i had you on my show because i believe fundamentally in free speech and hearing different opinions and i did say thank you very much but the problem is we are talking about country not about you the country but i'm not the prime minister fundamental fundamental right as a freedom of speech and communists the first thing they do in poland they took away our freedom of speech this is what is happening now that's it that's it that's a real fear that pierce a lot of people here have but pierce as usual appreciate you for making the time to come on i'll give you the final word if you want to say anything and i will go from there all i want to say is i enjoyed my debate with your uh polish guest uh the other day on my show he's always welcome i love hearing different views.

2:46:59I just will always defend what's going on in Britain because I do not recognize the way it's being portrayed by some on the conservative right in America and I think they're being deliberately ill-informed by people like Tommy Robinson and his time is stopped because there are reasonable arguments to be had about things like immigration which I would completely agree about. I've just been told by the way in my ear the mayor of Birmingham does speak English. So if you'd like That's a good information because we wouldn't even ask this kind of question about Polish mayors. The other thing I'd say, Patrick, all I say is I think that tonight is a really big night for people like you and I.

2:47:40I think this whole content creator world that we now occupy is where people now go on these big election nights. We saw it with the 2024 election. We're seeing it again tonight. It's great to be with you guys. Great for you to be on my show. I think this is where young people in particular now want to get their information, their analysis, their debate. You're a broad church, the PBD podcast. It's why I love you guys. I love going on it. We've had great debates. Long may that continue. We are the defenders of free speech, and I will always be grateful to you. I think you enjoy coming on here. Any time people criticize you for what you do, I always say I love the fact that he's doing it because it's getting people to talk to each other.

2:48:21So I want to encourage you for doing great work that you're doing. and Pierce, thank you so much for making the time. Appreciate you. We'll talk soon. Thanks, buddy. Thank you. All right, so, Tom, can you give us an update? Because in a minute, I'm going to be bringing in Bill O 'Reilly and Cenk Uygur that will be joining us from the Young Turks. So, Tom, what is the latest? I'm seeing these numbers. Is this really happening right now, Tom? Yes, right now in Texas, there's a defining moment. Two races are going to be called. This, I think, is like one of the headlines of the election. Tallarico will win the Senate of Texas.

2:48:51He's up 1.1 million, 1.2 million, 60 % of the vote in. It's insurmountable with all mathematics in the other outlying areas, number one. And number two, Texas governor, hang on to your seats. Greg Abbott is down 872 ,000 votes to Gina Hinojosa. And it appears that the bluing of Texas is taking place. The Democratic conqueror of Texas is taking place. That is going to be a major headline tomorrow, and this is major celebration going on in Democrat strategists all across the U.S. right now. Now I'm going to take you to Michigan, which was thought to be tight. I'm going to show you what's happening with Michigan Senate right now.

2:49:36There's only about 15 percent of it has come in, but you can see Abdul Syed has a 51 ,000 vote lead. However, right here in Wayne County, Detroit, only 2 % is reported. When that comes in, that lead only grows. We're not calling it, but it is farther apart than was forecast. So you're talking about Abdul El-Sayed? Abdul El-Sayed. Okay, so what I want to do is, before we go to our next two guests, can we have a friend of ours, can we have Haas, if you're in the room, work your way up here. Haas is a very interesting angle. And Michael, if you don't mind having Haas come in for a minute, everybody will stick around.

2:50:17Haas is a Muslim businessman. He's in the insurance business, runs a multimillion dollar insurance business for himself. I've known him for many, many years. And a classy guy. We were just having dinner the other day, lunch the other day at a friend of our house, a friend of ours house. It was Moral Antikrin. And I said, so Haas, you're from Michigan. You're Muslim. You're proud Muslim. You're the one that gave me the Koran. It was your mom's Koran that I went and gifted to Andrew Tate when I was in, I think it was Romania when we did that interview. And I gave him a Bible and a Koran because that was the thing he was going through, purely out of respect.

2:50:52What do you think about Abdullah al-Said? Do you support him? Do you like what he's doing? Do you like what he stands for as a person that's from Michigan? So maybe share your story and where you're at with it. Absolutely. So I'm very, very confusing, right? So meaning I'm a Muslim, very proud. I'm a conservative, very proud conservative. I love America. Today my son's singing the Pledge of Allegiance. right and god bless usa is five years old for me i chose specifically that school that only does the pledge of allegiance that's the second thing i see so many right now people on the conservative side not knowing how to be able to debate these guys not knowing you lose me right away when you start talking about kids you lose me right away when it's talking about trans you lose me right away when it's talking about you hate america you lose me right away we talk about oh socialism you lose me right away we don't stand for that muslims don't stand for that unfortunately what's happening is the conservative party is not attracting us that's the problem because what i'd like to do is for me i like to go into the family and say hey guys we're here we need to debate within ourselves to have a better game plan right because would you like the muslims on your side or not this language of not having them on your side is going to be a problem long term because they're playing ball now let's talk about abdul sayed uh yeah you're from michigan yes born and raised in dearborn michigan 29 years of my life right so dominic you know when he says that I can't have pork.

2:52:05I mean, in Michigan, we have over 30, in Dearborn, we have 30 churches. Not in Belgium. 30 churches, 12 mosques, right? So there's more churches in Dearborn than there is mosques. Trust me, there's plenty of ham. Some of my best friends in the world, some of my greatest mentors, greatest teachers are Christian, Catholic, amazing people. I didn't grow up with that kind of lifestyle. Maybe some have. That's why I do not want America to become another Europe when children cannot eat their sandwiches. They absolutely can. In Dearborn, they can. That's what I'm saying. I do not want America to become another Belgium.

2:52:39I live in Belgium. The lady who approached me, approached me at the airport. She recognized me. She was Polish, and she says, please stop this. She came home crying. I was called to the school, and the principal said she cannot do it because it's offensive. So this kind of thing is about changing the nature of the society. This is why we did not let them into Poland. Do you think that Abdul Syed won or Rodgers lost? We don't know yet. We don't know yet? Let's say Abdul Syed won. That's a good question. Let me ask you, do you think that Abdul, if he wins, because my opinion right now, based on what I see in my city, he's going to win.

2:53:17Tom just said Wayne County. You guys know what Wayne County is? That's Detroit, that whole area. Yeah, I think. It's the biggest turnout since 2024. I'll tell you why. It's a bigger turnout now. I tell you why. Ask yourself why. You think your current strategy is working? Because many, not all, many candidates, Republican candidates, were quiet, not direct, and weak. Soft. That's what I think. What we need is a strong message. My message is very strong. Do not come to the Polish border or you will be dead. Simple. That's my question. Another one. Another one. Okay, I love it. By the way. By the way, I want to see what, but I want you to tell me, because what I want you to share with them, give me 30 seconds, Abdul El-Sahid.

2:54:06Do you support him? Do you not? Why not? So for me, when you sit there and you say you're going to tax me more money because I make more money, that does not work in America. I disagree with him. I'm not voting for you for that right away. When you tell me that your kids can go to the doctor and repay for the care for them to get surgery, yeah, it's not going to work with me. I will never vote for a candidate like that. I don't agree with him. Whether they're Muslim or not. Absolutely, whether they're Muslim or not. This is very important. This is about me. Yeah, no, no, no, no. But how about the part where the sister tweet from back in the day's Muslim Brotherhood, how do you feel about those tweets?

2:54:38So for me, here's the one thing about me. Number one, I don't believe that there should be any Muslim Brotherhood in America, any other stuff like that nature. By the way, I don't believe in anything like that infiltrating America as far as religion-wise. I believe that we have the Constitution of the United States of America, which I follow proudly. Now, that's the first part. The second part is the Muslim Brotherhood thing. Yeah, anyone that kills innocent people, anyone that claims to be Muslim Brotherhood, that goes out there and doesn't do the right things, I disagree with. As a devout Muslim, as somebody that doesn't drink, doesn't smoke, teaches my kids these things.

2:55:10I live in Boca Raton, highly populated Jewish area. I have some of the best Jewish friends in the world. Amazing people. So I don't come from that camp. Abdul Syed, this is his issue. He's not going to get you Medicare. What do you think this is? Obama, did Obama try to do it? He sounds like Obama. I'm thinking it's Obama running. He's not going to get free Medicare. We all know that, even though he wants to. But the message landed hard. I personally would not vote for anyone that's a socialist. It does not work. You can't charge me more money if I make more money. You cannot sit there and tell me you're going to give this money away to some of other people that don't want to work.

2:55:42It doesn't work in America. I won't vote for him, no matter if he's Muslim, not Muslim, because at the end of the day, I've got to go what's right for America and for my kids and their future. If you look at the stats, guys, you know, look, as somebody who lived in the Middle East for eight years of my life, if you look at the average Syrian in this country, Lebanese, especially in this country, Egyptian in this country, I promise you, I promise you, they're primarily entrepreneurs, free market people, the farthest things from socialists. Now, and there's something else. I think the Founding Fathers foresaw this being a debate.

2:56:16It's why the United States and why being an American holds that sacred covenant, which is the separation of church and state. Your relationship to God and how you choose to worship is between you and your God. That is the principle this country was founded on. And to your point, if you pledge allegiance to the constitution of this country, you're allowed to worship everybody from Moloch, Satan, the God of the Israelites, or whoever it is you want to choose. That is the ideal we have to hold true to. So, you know, you sound, you may be a devout Muslim, but you sound very American to me. You're obviously a free market capitalist entrepreneur.

2:57:03I want you to hold that. That's why I brought Haas, because he gave me the perspective I wanted to bring him on. And James, you got some thoughts you want to share. But we have Bill O 'Reilly and Cenk Uygur joining us. I know Bill is in his seat. And, Bill, before we come to you, let's go to this commercial break before we go to Bill O 'Reilly. Go for it. I don't get excited about every movie that comes out. But when you have a musical, an American musical, and another story about a great American entrepreneur, and I get to buy it with four tickets and streaming all in one, now you got my attention.

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2:58:42Bill, can you hear us or no?

2:58:47Testing Bill, can you hear us? Can you hear us or no? Bill, I say let's do it live. Let's do it live. No, we don't have him yet? Okay, I'll let you guys figure that part out. When you have him, team, let me know when you do have him. In the meantime, while we're going through that, Haz, going back to the final thoughts. James, did you want to say anything about what he was saying? I just want to say there's a video out from Dearborn right now. We have investigated people everywhere. Today, the officials were speaking in Arabic. This is on video. It's viral on our channel. And they were telling the voter to vote illegally for non-citizens speaking a different language.

2:59:26So I recognize that's anecdotal. I completely disagree with that. That's not right. That's against the law. Anything against the law, they shouldn't do. I agree. If you pledge to the Constitution, you have to follow the laws. You can't tell non-citizens to vote in a different language. 100%. I agree. Do you think, would you vote for me if I ran for office as a Muslim and a conservative? Yes? I don't think you being Muslim has anything to do with it. Right? To be personal. So here's the thing. Shouldn't we have that conversation? Shouldn't we convert more people into that mindset instead of demonizing it?

2:59:57What do you think? We need more people like you speaking up for the Muslim population. Because most people think that Islam has been hijacked by the radical Islam movement And that phrase, taqiyya, where you can lie to get what you want, is being used continually through the politicians that are out there. Yeah. A.K.A. Mandami and Saeed. Not a fan of Mandami either. All right. So you're a different situation. It would be wonderful because this is how we feel. This is what we want. I was just in Uzbekistan. Uzbekistan, I was in Tuscan. It's an amazing country. Jews, Catholics, Muslims, no headaches in that country.

3:00:38They're all thriving and living and expressing themselves. Yeah. In that instance. Can I just reverse this question? Can any Christian run for office in Saudi Arabia? No. There you go. By the way, that's... So that's the problem. That's Saudi Arabia. This is America. Sorry? This is America. Yeah. That's why America is the greatest country in the world. True. That's why he said that Islam they represent is not... Saudi Arabia is not Islam. The same... There's no... Yeah, but no Saudi Arabia is not Islam. Islam is not ran by one country. Yeah, I know. But what I'm talking about, any Islamic sharia law state would never allow even to think that a Christian can run for the office.

3:01:19Look what happened in Lebanon when there was a division between president, prime minister, and they had two years each. Now it's gone. There's no Christian. Yeah, the president of Lebanon has to be a Christian. And it's not. And I went to Lebanon four times, and I spoke to the people, and they said, okay, we had agreements. We've got two years of prime minister, two years president. We switch because even though it's a Christian country, now they are gone within the time. So it's a process which was stopped in Poland and should be stopped in America. So there's a theological debate, and there's a cultural debate.

3:01:53There are two different things. All right, so let's do this. So I believe we have Bill O 'Reilly on with it. Let's test it one more time. And, Bill, let's do it live, Bill. I want to make sure you hear me. Can you hear us or no? I got you loud and clear. I told Bill the other day when we were speaking, I said, Bill, I don't know if you know this or not, but you're on the Mount Rushmore. Whether you like it or not, a lot of people for decades followed you when you had the number one show getting 20, 30 million views. Before there was any of the podcasters, there was Bill O 'Reilly. So, Bill, thank you for making the time.

3:02:24Bill, how are you feeling? You've been doing it. You've been in this sport of politics for decades. What do you think is going on when we're seeing Tallarico got a one and a half million lead now and Governor Abbott potentially losing in Abdul El-Sahid? Have you ever in your life, being in politics for decades, have you ever seen something like this before? Well, not exactly. There were, Barack Obama got waxed in his last midterm. And in the 19th century, there were big upheavals in politics. But I think that I and others underestimated the anger of the American people. Chris Cuomo had a good line tonight.

3:03:05He said, anger ushered in Donald Trump to the White House, and now anger is ushering his administration out. And it's true. Americans were angry about Joe Biden and his irresponsible administration, And now they're angry because they have to pay more for the essentials of life. And the Republican Party has not really defined it very well. So you're getting a reaction that is emotional rather than based on anything else. And I'll just throw one more thing in it. And this is not a partisan analysis, but it's true. This affordability stuff that the Democrats hid behind is just foolish. that party is going to raise taxes for everybody.

3:03:56I mean, the people who make the most money are going to get waxed the most, but working men and women are going to get hammered. And that's going to wipe out any affordability that may or may not happen. Government can't control the private marketplace no matter what. But people don't understand that. And so they're voting on a motion. And Donald Trump is on the ballot once again. And they say, we're disappointed. We want somebody else. By the way, I just saw the numbers right now with Calci. Cenk, great to have you on as well. Cenk, let me know if you can hear us. Yeah, I can hear you. Okay, fantastic.

3:04:35So Calci just had it 99 % that the Dems are going to have the House and the Senate. Tallarico, I don't know what it's at right now. 1.3, 1.4, 1.5 million lead. Abbott potentially losing his behind. Abdullah Al-Syde's got the lead. It looks like that's also going to go. Cenk, from a different perspective, people know which side you lean politically. How do you think this happened? Why do you think this happened? Yeah. Well, is that to me? I'm going to go to Cenk. Then, Bill, I'm going to come to you right afterwards. Go for it, Cenk. Okay, sure. Yeah. So, look, what's happening is that people are constantly looking for and voting for change.

3:05:11And that's happening across the world. And people can't tell. They're like, well, I don't get it. It's going right. It's going left. left, people are searching for answers. So it goes to Trump, then it swings wildly against Trump. Now, a lot of that is predictable. Trump is sitting at a negative 26 percent approval. I mean, that's going to catch up with you at some point. And that point is right now. And so that's why this is a bloodbath. And he said, act like I'm on the ballot to the point that Bill was making. And it became a referendum on Donald Trump. And when you're at minus 26, minus 51 with independence, that referendum is not going to end well.

3:05:45So look, my thesis, Pat, is we've all tried, you know, establishment Democrats like Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden, etc. We've tried establishment Republicans like George Bush, Dick Cheney. We've tried a populist right in Donald Trump. I don't really think he's a populist at all. I think he's a fake populist. But we tried all that. The one thing that this country has not tried is populist left. And so if and what they're beginning to try tonight with abdul el-said and others is not far left far left is different that's dsa socialists etc populist left is roqana abdul el-said james talarico and and the country's saying let's try that now and see how that goes and so for a guy like me who's on the populist left it couldn't be better than this bill what do you have to say about what jenks just said do you agree with him No, I don't think that there's anything good about the populist left or the radical left, however you want to define it.

3:06:45And everybody's different. I mean, everybody in the Democratic Party defines him or herself in a different way. All you got to do is look at what's happening in Europe, which is the entitlements have overtaken the treasuries of at least five countries. And now the people don't want to cut back and they're setting their countries on fire because you can't afford, no one can afford to pay for somebody else's life. And that's what the populist or radical left promises. We'll take care of the housing. We'll take care of your kid. We'll take care of your medical expenses, universal health care. I mean, Great Britain didn't have any money.

3:07:30I mean, Great Britain is out of money. They cannot afford to pay their national health care. France is out of money. They can't afford to pay anything. And the people won't even take retirement two years down the road. All the French government says this. Maybe you don't retire at 62. You got to work to 64. No, we're not doing it. So that's the road that the left down. It's going to be a very painful road for this country that owes$40 trillion. Cenk, question for you, because again, you've also been in the space for a long time and you were mainstream, you went independent and you've done what you've done.

3:08:15When you see this happening, so they take Senate, they take House. What would you like to see the left do now that they're going to have control of the two, the next two years? Yeah. So just real quick on what Bill said, look, there's nothing radical about populism. We have like the populist plank on tyt.com. And that's all of those issues pull it over two thirds of Americans. And Pat, as you and I have discussed before, there's issues like paid family. If you give moms 12 weeks off after they have a baby, that pulls at 84%. That's not radical. Three quarters of Republican voters want it. 94 % of Democratic voters want it.

3:08:51But we never get anything we want. Populism just means, hey, why don't you serve the voters instead of the donors? And there's populist right, too. Like, for example, I think Vinny Oshana from PBD Podcast is populist right. And that gets to the answer that you're asking for here, which is that, look, I know what the populists want, both on the right and the left, and the wars. That's what we voted for. We voted for that in a thousand different ways and a thousand different candidates. We voted for that in both parties, and we never get it. And a corollary to that is end funding Israel. And now that Donald Trump said he's going to end that.

3:09:26Ro Khanna was just on our Young Turks election coverage, and he said, well, that's now the baseline. So if any Democrat says that we should fund Israel, they're to the right of Donald Trump. So no, we've, you know, and look, populist rights started this by saying America first. And about that, they're right. The American voters should come first. Why are we constantly funding a different nation? Why are people declaring their unconditional support for Israel instead of the voters of America or Michigan. I think that that Rogers, Mike Rogers, lost this race when he said, I will serve Israel unconditionally.

3:10:03That is an insane thing to say. Mainstream media is on that side. They're on the side of endless wars. They're on the side of Israel first. But the American voters are not. And they just showed it to you. So when we get into Congress, that's it. No more wars. Cut off the funding for this war and cut off the funding for Israel. I don't even think they're an ally, but certainly the American voters just gave you an enormous mandate. We don't want to do it anymore. And Pat, you might've seen it. You know, we did the rebellion pack ad. That's the groceries ad. That was my pack rebellion pack. And you know, people on the democratic side, they were nervous about it.

3:10:36Oh, they got to disavow and all this stuff. And what happened? It was an enormously popular ad to the point where Donald Trump had to say, yes, in Michigan, we're getting so much pressure that we got to cut off the funding to Israel. So again, these elections couldn't have gotten better, but you're right. They have to follow through and actually deliver what the voters actually voted for tonight. So Bill, the topic of Israel, again, for someone that's been in the space for a long time, have you ever seen the level of criticism of Israel involvement? You know, the amount of money that's being paid out to them.

3:11:08It's it's a wide range of folks. There's even some people on the Republican side that agree with the sentiment. What do you say to that? Because sometimes Republicans are uncomfortable to discuss that topic. What do you say about that? Well, the Congress has to vote on where the money is going to go. But if you understand the Israeli experience, if we withdrew and we're not going to, that's a ruse. That money will still get to Israel, but in other forms. If you understand the Middle East, and I've covered the wars there, without our support, there'd be a massive war. Massive. And it would be a wipeout, kill every Jew.

3:11:54Because that's what Iran wants. That's what Hezbollah wants. That's what Hamas wants. And they'd all band together and try to kill every Jew. Is that what you want in Michigan? Is that what you want in America? I mean, these people need protection. And if you don't understand and what happened in World War II and subsequently afterward, then you should read up on it, because it's just ridiculous. And I'm going to address the other things. Just because the people want it doesn't make it noble. Okay? So open borders is a tremendously destructive force, which the Democratic Party will bring back in various ways, shapes, and forms.

3:12:40So I'm a long-term thinker. This vote tonight, I called it, Patrick, I called it because Republicans were not showing empathy to the American people who were suffering because of the Iranian situation, the essentials of life. There wasn't any empathy coming out of the GOP. That's why they got waxed, because people said, well, wait a minute, I'm getting hammered, and I'm not hearing anything from my congressperson about how to solve this. And then when you have the oil companies making unbelievable profits, profits, record-breaking profits off a war that's supposed to be a war that prevents a nuclear attack, which is a noble thing.

3:13:38But when you have oil companies, and President Trump addressed it once. If I were president, I would have addressed it every blanking day and got those people into to the White House and said, you cannot profiteer off the suffering of Americans. That's the new leadership you need in the Republican Party. And with all due respect to all of your viewers and all of that, the Democratic Party doesn't have any interest in that. Their interest is taking over the federal government, running the economy, and as Mamdani said in New York, controlling the means of production. He said it. That's communism.

3:14:27Go to Cuba and see how that works. So again, I'm a long-term thinker. This is a huge setback on Donald Trump's legacy and the Republican Party tonight. Cenk, I'll give you the final words before we wrap up. Go forward. What's your reaction to what Bill just said? Yeah. Look, first of all, thanks for having us both on. I think This is a really fun conversation. Bill, I agree with you, was a kind of legendary in the television business, the original giant talk show host on cable news. And I like to think the Young Turks, the original giant show on the Internet. So it's a nice meeting here. And I like what Bill's saying at the end there, which is, yeah, why are we holding the oil companies accountable?

3:15:10You know that they get 19 billion dollars a year in free money from the taxpayers. That's actually way more than Israel gets in a normal year. Why are we giving the most profitable companies in the world extra gifts from the American taxpayers? It's unconscionable. And Bill's right. They did triple their profit margin during this crisis. And they bragged to shareholders that actually it wasn't supply and demand that was driving up the prices. It was their profit margins. So that's unconscionable. But on everything else, I got to disagree with Bill. I mean, populism just means give the people what they want.

3:15:43and you say you can't give people what they want, well, why do we have a democracy? Of course we should give the people what they want. It doesn't mean that they want communism. If you ask them, they'll tell you in America that they don't want communism. And by the way, the populist left is not about communism or socialism. We're not the DSA wing. We're not the socialist wing. We're the, why don't you give people what you want, what they want wing. And what they want isn't Santa Claus. They want just fairness. They want equality of opportunity. and they want to be able to pay their bills and they don't want to pay for other people's bills.

3:16:16So it's so hyperbolic to say that all the Jews are going to die if we don't fund Israel, their infinite requests for funding, their infinite requests for war. But, you know, people are dying. Our soldiers are dying. Our service members are dying. In fact, we cover this haunting story. The Army Times reported that they're teaching our soldiers how to quickly dig mass graves because that's what they might face in Iran. The Israelis aren't doing that because they're not sending in any ground troops. It's constantly our guys who are getting killed, us paying the bills. We spent$8 trillion on the global war on Israel's neighbors.

3:16:52So what are we doing here? We're bankrupt. We're borrowing this money from China. We have to pay the interest rates the rest of our lives. So do our kids, so do our grandkids. Why doesn't Israel borrow the money from China if they want endless wars? It's not our business. And I think that times are completely different now. I don't think that it's a left-right thing anymore, you know, paradigm anymore, as much as it is the populist versus the establishment. And the populists of both parties are sick of paying for everyone else and never getting anything we want. And after this election, after the Democrats ran on ending the wars and ending the funding of Israel, they better do it.

3:17:30Otherwise, they'll wind up losing in 28 and they'll get their asses thrown out and people will vote for change again until someone delivers. Bill, do you have anything? It looks like you want to say something, Bill. I always want to say something. Look, I got a new book out and it's called Confronting America What Has to Change. And in the book, I say the key to a successful life in a society like the United States is developing your talent, working with the traditional system of capitalism, and you will come out okay and obeying the law. Don't be a miscreant. All right. And I give countless examples.

3:18:13The government cannot do it for you. You say you want fairness. Life is not fair. There are brilliant people. There are dumb people. The dumb people aren't going to do as well as the brilliant people. So I would rather live in a real world, but I believe that Congress, and this is absolutely necessary, and I hope you guys read confronting the United States, is developing your talent, working with the traditional system of capitalism, and you will come out okay and obeying the law. Don't be a miscreant. All right. And I give countless examples. The government cannot do it for you. You say you want fairness.

3:19:05Life is not fair. There are brilliant people. There are dumb people. The dumb people aren't going to do as well as the brilliant people. So I would rather live in a real world, but I believe that Congress, and this is absolutely necessary, and I hope you guys read Confronting America, has to be a little bit more proactive in protecting the 350 million Americans. instead of sitting there, we should have had an immigration bill 20 years ago. 20 years they sat on and they could make a fair immigration bill. No. So yes, you're right. Trump's on a ballot. He's getting his butt kicked tonight. He'll use the veto and executive orders to mitigate the damage that is coming his way and then in 28 we'll see if the uh american people are as angry as they are tonight thank you for both uh uh cenk last time we did this you had a friend from poland that you guys had a special moment on election two years later he's got a question for you i've got just one question for you chank if you would be so nice to answer yeah do you know who i am by now uh no so you will learn more you will learn more and in the next two years and i'll see you in two years right here i hope you're gonna come you will learn more jank uh bill again appreciate both of you guys for making the time thank you so much jank and bill thank you guys take care bye-bye bye-bye thank you all right fantastic okay that was great by the way um couple things before we change the panel tom's got an update for that for us and let me see what i just got here two things and we got people in the lounge of a small business owner that's being interviewed and i'm going to change the entire lineup so if you guys don't mind we're going to bring the next group in tom give us a latest update of what's been happening thanks guys appreciate you we have a milestone moment in the u.s senate and we have called kansas for adam hamilton who is the democrat who is the uh minister of the methodist church of one wing of the Methodist Church.

3:21:24He is the winner in Kansas, which gives 49 senators now to the Democrats. And we will now project they will control the Senate because Oregon and Minnesota are not in doubt. And that will be 51. The only question is how far above 51 is this going to go? but we are projecting Kansas, Hamilton, the Democrat, and 51 in the U.S. Senate. It's done. Done, done? The U.S. Senate is done. It will be Democrat control. There you go. So now they control both of them. They control both of them to see what happens. Anthony in the back. I think if we got Anthony or Taylor in the back in the cigar. By the way, if you're watching this, and if you're enjoying all of this exchange that we're having, you enjoy what we're doing.

3:22:14This happened as well last time. If you haven't yet subscribed on the channel, it would mean the world to us. It allows us to bring bigger guests. So click on the channel. If you're enjoying this, it would mean the world to us if you support the podcast and press the subscribe button. Do we have the folks in the back at the Boardroom Cigar Lounge? Anthony or Taylor, are they ready in the back? Hey, Pat. Can I? Because I can't see you. If we put the camera on you, I want to see where you're at. Right here, Pat. Can you guys flip to the camera on the back? They're in the private. Okay. All right.

3:22:46Anthony, who do you have there? By the way, tell me Anthony's not handsome and good looking. Look at this guy doing a great job with VT Gen Z. Anthony, what's happening back there? Hey, Pat. So I got Alex here, small business owner, actually grew up in the Soviet Union, immigrated to the States. What's been your biggest takeaway so far with the midterm elections? Well, everything I saw I expected. My take on this, we have a big problem in our country. We have a big problem with our voters being uninformed. and just plainly stupid. They're more worried about instant gratification, about pushing back on Trump instead of the long-term damage they're going to do by voting for Islamists and socialists and communists.

3:23:25Let them know. Turn it off. Jake, turn it off. Come back here. We'll come back to them. Fix the audio, please. And Adam, please grab a seat respectfully. Mickey, how are you doing? Good to have you here. Thanks for having me. Yes, we have a different lineup. So now, based on everything that right now is going on, What are you thinking? Your life is a very different life. What do you think about all the stuff that's going on right now? I think that... Can we have Mickey's mic on, please? Is my mic not on? Okay, now you're good. I think that politics are ridiculous. I think that supporting any political philosophy with blind allegiance is ridiculous.

3:24:05I think this is America, the greatest country on earth. I think this is the land of the free and the home of the brave. I think we should be discussing policies at a policy-to-policy basis and not blind allegiance to any party. I think every political philosophy has parts right and parts wrong. And I think that a lot of people, especially young people, get consumed by what they think the truth is based on what they see on social media. And I think it's incredibly distorted. And I think it's very violent in thought. And I just – I don't want to subscribe to the sentiment of political parties at all.

3:24:38I have my own moral compass. What's important to you? If you were to give your Mickey top three issues to you, what would it be? My top three issues. I would say first would be the discussion of taxation. I am not pro more taxes. I work really hard for my money. I used to have none. And the idea that I have to give the money that I earn to someone who's unwilling to get up and get it doesn't sit right for me. Okay, so what's the second one? The second one, I would say, I think that social media should have an auditing system that prevents politics from being discussed on it. Really? Yeah. So you're not for freedom of speech?

3:25:20Not really. Really? I think you're honest about it. I appreciate the honesty right there. Being honest. So tell me more. You're not for freedom of speech? No, not really. I think most people in first world countries, particularly America, are really soft. You know, I've been homeless and incarcerated, and I've been around a lot of people that if you break their rules that you didn't get a chance to vote on, there are grave consequences. And you can still prevail, and you learn to excel in this environment. And it's not necessarily as a whole the freedom of speech I'm against. You know, I love being able to say whatever I want to say, of course.

3:25:58But I think the idea of the youth, which are rather uneducated, Like to take a political opinion from an 18-year-old who's two years shy of even being eligible to have voted in the last election, I think is ridiculous. So I remember when I was 18, I did things like tattoo my face. I partied. I did drugs. All these things. And then as a grown man yourself, a successful man, you're going to come to me when I was 18 years old and say, I think you should have a say in how I run my life and who should govern me. I mean, it's ridiculous. So then what age? If it's not 18, what age? By the way, you're making an argument that I've made in the past as well, but what age?

3:26:37I think that it should really be based around merit on an individual level. I think there should be some kind of psychiatric test and maturity test before you can make decisions like that. How many of you guys agree partly with what he has to say? Yes? No? Maybe? Make some noise if you do. It's good luck. Yeah, good luck with something like that happening. Okay, make you thankful. Stick around because we've got other things to talk about. So you saw O 'Reilly. You saw what happened. You saw what it's like right now. Guys, it's over, just so you know. Dun-dun, okay? I made the joke, if only someone had given the administration some warning.

3:27:09For the last year and a half, people were issuing righteous, sincere criticism as to how this administration could correct ship, and they were called black pillars, doom pillars, panikins, all sorts of names, written off, demonized, from the righteous criticism, which was the coalition, or at least the promises, the campaign that was made for the coalition was not being respected in real time, and that coalition was going to shatter, and this was going to happen. and people were foretelling it a year and a half ago and they were brushed off and demonized. And now we're seeing the consequences of what was entirely avoidable.

3:27:40Vinny. Well, first, Pat, I just have to go just really quick back. Piers, who was on, and my name was mentioned with Chank and everybody. Piers Morgan always likes to say, Tommy Robinson's name is not Tommy Robinson. He keeps doing that. You think Piers Morgan's name is really Piers Morgan? It's not. It's Piers Stephan O'Meara. Just since he always wants to talk crap about Tommy Robinson, but I'll move on. So, Pat, I've been sitting in the back and I've been listening all night, and this is the United States of America, and all, the top, I've heard the whole time from everybody, is the word Israel and Iran.

3:28:11Israel, like, this is the United States of America, Pat, and I personally, the fact that our midterm, and it's looking like it's going to bleed into 2028, the fact that another country's actions, whatever, I don't, I'm not judging, it's the fact that it's affecting my life and my country bothers me. i don't like it i i if i counted how many times the word israel was said while i was up here my the paper the ink would have ran out on the pen okay and then you have chank up here pat about populism and i respect chank but chank's nephew is one of the main factors that helped el sayad go to number one and guess what this guy's message is i wipe the constitution with my ass i i hope capitalists in america their the their streets are bleeding and soaked with their blood he hates freaking america and i love and i have to side with dominic pat that whole attitude of no there's good people two billion people if 25 of them are radicalized you know how many hundreds of millions of people that means hates you and hates america and we let them in and for we let them in because pat the second strike on iran everybody knew we shouldn't have done it everybody knew we shouldn't have done it plain and simple the first one we knocked out everything and this is what bothered me the director of national intelligence tulsi gabbard who i respect immensely sat in front of a camera and said guys we knocked everything out they don't have any more nuclear capability and they all turned on her they were like what that she doesn't know what the hell she's talking about and then she was like oh uh no no they do have it and then she was gone okay this is america and america spoke tonight they spoke and i hope they're listening pat because now if the attitude is let's go and bomb the shit out of iran we lost 2028 okay we have to change that freaking attitude the future looks bright but the future starts tonight they better start making some radical changes or else these radicals are going to take over the country where have you been the entire night what happened to this that makes the most for vinny guys i've been sitting in this is our vinny and pat ready for this ilhan omar is 99 whatever winning like the the accountability and i understand going after people i'm about accountability i'm not about this lawfare that the left did against trump but people broke the law we should be going after them but then every time they arrest them or they indict them guess what we run into a judge that biden or obama appointed and they just dismissed the case like there's two fbi agents that just got caught for uh the biden uh the laptop they lied about it guess what happened to them the judge said bye bye get rid of it okay so we have to guys tonight is the freaking night and i hope everybody wakes up and understands this whole sitting back laying back the the republican party was trump it's all trump but we learned tonight you can't just sit back ken paxton everybody and be like oh his endorsement's gonna do it it ain't gonna do it get your ass out there get abdul sayad was out there talking shit to people like yeah even though he's 100 the whole family supports the muslim brotherhood he was like yeah yeah no of what he never denied it that means the whole family's in on it if you don't think he thinks like that too you're delusional okay so by the way fyi for For everybody that's watching this out there, not only subscribe to the YouTube channel, but I want you to DM Vinny because he's a bachelor, single, handsome, in shape, cooks, very good food, takes care of his body.

3:31:28Ladies, Vincent O'Shanna, go to his handle, DM him, and then swipe right, whatever way you got to do your thing. But with that being said, we got somebody special here with us, Ann Coulter. Ann, are you up there? Let us know. Hello. How you doing, Ann? How you feeling? Fantastic. Everything I said would happen, happened. And it's all because of the Iran war. Remember, we talked about that on your show before when Trump was just threatening to do the Iran war. If only he'd listened to me. Oh, my gosh, I knew this was going to happen. We're going to lose all these battleground states. Oh, but good news.

3:32:04Amendment three passed in Florida. Ha ha ha. You know, I just got back from New York. In New York, I saw more ads against Amendment three that will limit local taxes. Thank you, Ron DeSantis. I saw more ads against Amendment 3 in Florida than I saw ads for Hochul and Blakeman. That's how much these public sector unions have to spend on this. So, ha, ha, ha, Amendment 3 passed. By the way, it's interesting you're saying that. So this is where I wanted to ask you. Biggest winners, biggest losers. Because one of the winners, based on you just saying Florida, I mean, everybody in Florida won. Is that because of DeSantis?

3:32:41Is that because of Trump? if de santis didn't have the rough night florida had a pretty good night and look it's looking pretty good with him for 2028 so your thoughts biggest losers biggest winners where you at de santis huge winner um particularly because of what he said about the iran war today um you gotta end it this is this is destroying the republican party um i mean yes he 100 it's only de santis who pulled Ashley Moody and Byron Donalds through. I was amazed. It was as close as it was considering, you know, how beloved DeSantis is in Florida. I'm so happy Amendment 3 passed. But really in the rest of the country, I mean, I'll keep my fingers crossed for Collins in Maine.

3:33:27And there's a guy Houston in Ohio. There are a few I'd like, but no, it's all the Iran war. I mean, look at what Trump did today. He came out and said, first of all, on Fox, he said, well, I think people are glad we stopped the nuclear program in Iran. No, they aren't. Nobody was worried about Iranian nukes. And also he apparently, I don't know, sat on Truth Social or came out and said, OK, fine, we'll stop giving Israel four billion dollars. He's trying to get people to vote for him and he knows what it's about. it's what the polls show i mean if people don't say the iran war specifically and a lot of them say the iran war they say gas prices they say cost of living well that's the iran war and by the way i think it's worth pointing that out and don't let anyone tell you otherwise because i was just watching you know all these democrats on i don't know cnn msnbc um and they want to say it's about anything but the iran war it's oh they people hate trump and it's because of the tariffs and it's because of voter suppression and racism in January 6th.

3:34:34No, it's not. It's the Iran war. That's simple. Okay, so now, Ann, you're famous for making predictions, right? You were one of the first ones on that Bill Maher show when you're like, who's going to win today? Donald Trump. What? They lost it, and then you ended up being right. So what happens next as a strategist? What is the left going to do? What is the right going to do? How is the right going to prepare for 2028? Does this hurt J.D. Vance's chances? Does it increase Marco Rubio's chances? us. What happens next, both left and right as strategy? I would it ought to hurt Marco Rubio's chances.

3:35:05I don't think he's going to run. I think he wants to make some money. But he was I mean, he's sort of in the neocon camp. He's the one supported by all the people who were cheerleading for the Iran war, which, by the way, not only wiped out the Republican Party. Oh, my gosh, the Iran war has been bad for Israel, as some of us said it would be all along and got yelled at for. Anyway, J.D. Vance, he's a hero. He was the only one in the cabinet who opposed the Iran war. As we all know, it leaked. It came out. He was on the Atlantic tape-recorded phone call when they were talking about an earlier intervention.

3:35:44He was the one who tried to end it. Remember, he had the memorandum of understanding, and Fox News and New York Post and all the usual suspects attacked him and called him an anti-Semite and, oh, why don't you talk to our enemies? If only he had ended it. I mean, we now have a Senate and the House that is going to be majority Democrat. 80 % of Democrats have a dim view of Israel and have more sympathy for the Palestinians than for Israel. You like it now? You happy with what you produced with that Iran war? Oh, no, you were warned. And I think J.D. Vance should go up. I think DeSantis should go up.

3:36:24And Republicans better learn, for one thing, keep your promises. Trump campaigned that he wasn't going to take us to war. He attacked the Iraq war. A lot of people were citing the fact that, you know, I'm anti-war and I thought he was, too. So, number one, keep your promises. Number two, don't go to war. No more pointless wars. So what are the Democrats going to do next? I've asked everybody the question. Everyone's had pretty much the same answer. I wonder if you have a different angle of what do you think they're going to do next. Are they going to go aggressive? Are they not going to go aggressive?

3:36:54Are they going to solve for 2028? Are they going to try to impeach? What do you think is going to happen?

3:37:02I think they might do a lot of the investigations and impeachments. I mean, you'd think, no, they won't, because that didn't help them last time. It just annoyed people. Look, you've got a majority in the House and Senate. You may not have the presidency, but maybe war. A lot of people were citing the fact that, you know, I'm anti-war and I thought he was too. So, number one, keep your promises. Number two, don't go to war. No more pointless wars. So what are the Democrats going to do next? I've asked everybody the question. Everyone's had pretty much the same answer. I wonder if you have a different angle of what do you think they're going to do next.

3:37:35Are they going to go aggressive? Are they not going to go aggressive? Are they going to solve for 2028? Are they going to try to impeach? What do you think is going to happen?

3:37:44I think they might do a lot of the investigations and impeachments. I mean, you'd think, no, they won't, because that didn't help them last time. It just annoyed people. Look, you got a majority in the House and Senate. You may not have the presidency, but maybe you'll get it soon. I think their base so hates Trump, they might be lured into doing some of the investigations and impeachments. I think they're going to push it as far left as possible. I never believe there's such a thing as a moderate Democrat. You never believe there's such a thing as a moderate Democrat. So you don't think they're going to hold back?

3:38:18Okay. So by the way, Trump just tweeted right now. Let me read you what he just said right now. Can you guess what he just said right now? Literally two minutes ago. I think you can probably guess. I wasn't on the ballot. And if I was, we would have won in a landslide. And he specifically said, Ann Coulter, thank you for your attention to this matter. Okay. Right. That's his tweet. So do you agree with them? No, of course. You know, I'm sorry. I'm only embarrassed that I did not guess that because I've been joking about that with my friends for, I don't know, a few weeks now that, you know, when when when the blue tsunami comes, he's going to say, well, it's because I wasn't on the ballot.

3:38:58No, of course, it's comical. People are voting on him. They are voting on gas prices. They're voting on cost of living. The Iran war is massively, massively unpopular. and and i wish republicans would stop taking the country to war after campaigning on not taking the country to war and as usual thank you for your time and uh keep kicking ass you're amazing thank you anniculter make some noise make some noise make some noise thank you have a good one um do you agree with her do you agree with what you just said adam i'll come to you do you agree with what there's a lot of what she said that that i agree with but i mean i mean look ann's going to do what and does by the way and if you're hearing this you look great still uh i have a different perspective what was uh by the way the networking backstage has been incredible so thank you pbd for putting this ridiculously incredible by the way let me just say thank you if you think this is good 20 there's only one place in the world you're going to be on 20 28 november and and i can't whisper to you what we're going to be doing it's going to be a spectacle it's going to be like magic mountain meets disneyland meets politics meets entertainment all combined together i'll reveal it to you in 18 months but go ahead adam you're gonna say i'll just say this obviously was not a good night was a great night for florida shout out to byron donalds and ashley moody congratulations congratulations to you guys in florida we're the best state in the in the union uh what i will say is this um you know they say you don't win or lose you win or learn and a lesson was learned in this midterm election.

3:40:32And I think three things are going to, learning lessons that we have from this. Number one, your finances. Affordability is a real thing. The average American on Main Street does not care about Wall Street. They care about their grocery bill, not GDP in America. So when Trump says trillions and billions of dollars, that doesn't necessarily resonate with a guy, with a family, with four kids, like the Red Baron pizza guy who's working his tail off and life's tough. And I get it. So put affordability and your finances first. Number two, as someone that used to vote Democrat and is disgusted by the Democratic Party, what I'll say to the Republican Party is you need some fresh faces.

3:41:09The Democrat Party, no matter what you think about them, and I do not agree with their ideology, with their playbook at all, they have vibrancy, they have fresh faces, and they're winning. I don't like the Tallaricos of the world, the Al-Sayeds of the world, any of these people. But the Republicans need to have a deeper bench. Last point, the future. We said the future looks bright. I'll tell you this. I'd rather lose the halftime show, but win the Super Bowl. So I think 2028 is still up for grabs. I think America tends to be bipolar every two to four years. We go back to this guy. We go back to this guy.

3:41:45I remember after 2020, there was no chance Trump was going to win. Wins in a landslide in 2024. So I think at the end of the day, 2028 is completely up for grabs. And anybody that tells you differently, is just lying. Emily, is he lying to us? Is he right? Do you agree with him? Where are you at? So funny. I was still trying to unpack everything you said, and I was like, all right. I was just like, I don't know about all this. It's a little doomsday, and we have to consistently pull ourselves out of that. I did a debate, Iran war. These things are so divided. I think that's the most difficult part of that.

3:42:21People are very for it, or they're very against that. I'm very disappointed with the candidates Republicans put up. I did not think they were strong candidates. And yeah, like Abdul is a perfect example. I saw a clip of him on Instagram today, 405 ,000 likes. I mean, putting numbers that are unbelievable. They're younger, they're out there, they're bold. And it's really disappointing. The Republicans have a lot of old white guys, and I'm not against that. I love that. But at the same time, we need younger. Brandon Gill, I think is a perfect example, crushing it on social media, in your face. I think Vivek used to do a really good job of that as well.

3:42:59And we kind of got our butts kicked. And I hope that, you know, I want a strong Democrat party because it makes us a better Republican party. And I don't want the black pill or whatever new pill it is. We just need to be better. No, it's crazy. I mean, we had Republicans, House, Senate, presidency for two years. And now we got a Muslim guy who is winning in this country. I mean, if it was me, if I was president right now, I would say no Muslims are allowed to even run for office in this country. That is what I would say. I know that's radical, but it is the truth. Because when you look at Sharia law and you look at Islam, it is not just a religion of freedom of expression.

3:43:36It is a political ideology, right? Sharia law is a political ideology. So if you are saying we are allowing people to run for office who hold this political ideology that is antithetical to what America is, then you are going to lose what America is. You are going to lose what the founding fathers envisioned for what this country is supposed to be. And if we are just going to sit back and say we have this very pernicious idea of what liberal democracy is, what liberalism is, because of our 21st century sympathies, you will lose America. We have to be stronger on the end. Mickey. I think this whole thing sounds ridiculous.

3:44:12I'm going to disagree with some of your points. By the way, I agree with a lot of things that you lean towards. You disagreed with me and disagreed with me in the same sentence. Yeah, because some things you say I think are right and some things I think you say are wrong, just like politics. For example, you said you don't mind losing the halftime show to win the Super Bowl. This isn't about winning or losing. You're talking about human lives. We're talking about our kids. This isn't red versus blue, Republican versus Democrat. We're talking about the best version of this country for our kids and for us and for our grandkids.

3:44:42Both sides have right and wrong. This isn't about winning and losing. These are human lives. These are our children and our grandkids. This isn't about winning. This is about being a better nation for generations to come. I agree with obviously being a great country, but at the end of the day, there's ideology and there's values and principles that each party has. And as someone that was a lifelong Democrat, that is a staunch MAGA Republican at this point, I can tell you with absolute certainty, the values and principles of the modern day left do not coincide with American values like you were talking about.

3:45:15You can't take blind allegiance to MAGA. And I'm not saying I'm pro or anti-MAGA. If there's anybody that's not blind allegiance, it's the guy that's been flip-flopping for the past four to eight years. You just said the last statement. I forget the verbatim quote, but you said you're a hardcore MAGA. What I'm saying is because it aligns with my values and principles. But you don't – 100 %? 100 %? Nothing is 100%. And if you ever watch the show – This is not a winner. This is a guy – just so you know, that guy, he voted for Biden in 2020, right? 2020, whatever. He literally voted for Biden. He was a Biden guy.

3:45:44He's never voted for a Republican president. You wouldn't say I was a Biden guy. No, you were a diehard Biden. You were going around trying to get all of those. I do have a Biden tattoo on my lower back. I'm not going to lie. Yeah, so he's got kind of a thing. But, you know, it's interesting hearing everybody what they have to say. Viva, do you want to put some thoughts on this before I go to the back? Just one quick thing. You know, it wasn't just Iran. It was you have Tulsi Gabbard and all the populist movement who was effectively pushed out of the coalition. And the fundamental things, you know, like you come in and you say no new wars, no regime change.

3:46:13and then you get new wars and regime change. You say Epstein files, and then if you're still pushing the Epstein files, he no longer wants your support. I mean, you had a betrayal on the most fundamental things that brought the coalition together. People were sounding the alarm in real time, and they were written off and demonized. Glyphosate immunity from the Maha part of MAGA coalition? What's totally frustrating is that the coalition succeeded because it appealed to the needs and the wants of people. And then when people get into power, for whatever the reason, they think they know better than the people who put them into power.

3:46:44And it goes from representing the voters to representing the donors. And that is what sunk this administration. And they refused to listen to all the constructive criticism for the last year and a half. Yeah, and by the way, there's this data I want to show you, what came up. Can you do me a favor and show the voters under 30 back Democrats by how many points? Very, very important to show. If you can pull this up, this is a NBC News exit poll. If you can pull that up so folks can see it. Do you know which one I'm talking about? I'll put a thumbs up on it right here if you have that ready. I want you to see this thing.

3:47:15So take a look at this, folks. Voters under the age of 30, okay, where they went, 71 % Democrat, 25 % Republican, plus Dems, plus 46. 30 to 44, Dems, plus 23. 45 to 64, plus one. The only one they got is Republicans, plus four, 65 and older, is where they're at, 65 and older. and then if you go 18 to 44 plus 30 45 plus plus one republicans that's what you have so maybe mickey's got a strategy to increase the age of voting to 44 things would have been very different tonight right mickey's idea so i want to do this i want to go to the back i think taylor and anthony the mic's been addressed can we find out you you got somebody who's a business owner in the back can you share with us anthony can you see us okay perfect let's try this one more time Go for it, Anthony.

3:48:09Hi, Pat. So I'm here with Alex. He grew up in the Soviet Union. He's a small business owner. Alex, we're kind of seeing a blue wave a little bit. What's been your biggest takeaway from these midterm elections? I'm not surprised what I saw. I've always said we are a society of uneducated, uninformed, instant gratification people. This was just a pushback on Trump. Our population is more worried about picking up the bird, giving the bird to Trump, than thinking of the damage they're going to do to their children. Have you ever lived in communism? I have not. I did. And I stood on lines for four hours for milk.

3:48:49And then when you get to the front, it's for shoes. And they don't have your size. I was told by my parents, don't laugh too loud or talk too loud, because the KGB is going to think we're doing too well. Let me tell you something. Our country has let the wolf into the hen house, and that wolf is never coming out. There's going to be a lot of problems that are coming up, and society just doesn't see it. We're a society of no mentorship, no guidance. Our kids aren't informed, and we got problems. There you go, Pat. That's perspective in the back. Very good perspective. What do you guys think about what he just said?

3:49:24Pat, you know, I agree with, like, I know people feel it. They don't really talk about that much. But there's something, I want to say the word evil, but there's something negative, very negative happening in the country. Like, everybody's always wondering. I know in Ephesians chapter 6, verse 12, it says, we're not wrestling with flesh and blood. People always go, man, that person wouldn't do this. You know what? Because we're fighting something deeper. I think there's something evil, Pat. But I am very, very optimistic. And I mean this from the bottom of my heart, guys. This country, America has been through, you name it, bro.

3:49:59Depressions, wars. We've dropped freaking bombs on Hiroshima. People are like, the world's going to, we've done crazy stuff. America always finds a way to come out on top. And I agree with what Mickey's saying, Adam, where it's the blind loyalty. It's like, no, whatever this person is, I'm with it. Mind you, I've been ride or die. I talked to Pat today about this. I never vote, guys, I never voted ever. United States Air Force veteran Mom and dad, legal immigrants We never talked about politics ever My dad just loved Reagan Because he was in the movies and he loved his hair And that was it Hair matters though I voted because when I saw Trump I went guys this guy doesn't give a shit Sorry for my language He loves America from the 80's He was sitting on freaking talk shows going America, I love America And he fought for this freaking car Every time he had a chance They all loved him on The View and all these things But to be just a blind, I'm just going to go for it because guess what?

3:50:55I voted for him. The only time, first time I voted was Trump. I voted again in 2020 and I voted again in 2024, all right? But you have to be able to say, besides the optimism, you have to be able to say, like, what is right in front of me. When you see a train coming at you, you can't be like, man, that's not, that could be something else. It could be, no, no, that's a train and you have to admit it. And I understand about the halftime thing, but the adjustment has to happen, Patrick. Now, you notice DeSantis doing his thing. J.D. Vance, what she was talking about, Ann Coulter was talking about, was when J.D.

3:51:28Vance said, and I think he did it on purpose, what Trump said, he said that J.D. Vance was unenthusiastic about the war. That was a very, very key moment because that separated him for a potential 2028 where he could say, hey, play the tape. the trump was the president was talking about me not wanting this war but this guy right here has helped me and it's not just a gimmick the future looks bright i'm a christian i'm not one of these just cross wearing i go to church on sunday no i believe in it i believe jesus christ what he did what he said and i'm telling you guys right now we're going to be fine but we have to fight freaking plain and simple i love it we gotta fight i'm with you i'm with you tom do we have anything going on tom just gave me an update on vivek what's going on with vivek what's the latest Let's go take a look at Ohio governor.

3:52:16This is closer than people thought. It's funny because this is what they thought was going to be a bloodbath. Like everybody thought this is the one that's going to be by 20 points, you know. Yeah, that's absolutely correct. But what you have right now, Amy Acton at 50.7 percent, Vivek at 46. She's up just under five points, 191 ,000. It is a big run. There's already four million votes counted. And we're sitting here today with, you know, up over almost 85 percent of the vote in. So this is a big road up for Vivek. It doesn't look like he's going to get there, but it is not the eight or nine point victory that many of the late polls and the prediction markets had when there was so much negative publicity around the things that Vivek had said.

3:52:57This ended up being closer. So this is one area where they were right about one thing, that the core of Ohio were Republicans that were going to come out on Election Day and vote en masse. They were correct. Just not enough of them came through. And Amy Acton, I can't call it just yet, but we're up over at 85 percent, Pat. So it's going to be a real run, but it is relatively close. I want to, Tom, ask you one question while you're there. If Vivek didn't say the comments that he said about Americans and being lazy, if Tom, if he didn't talk about that, Tommy, is he winning this race? If he didn't say those comments.

3:53:36When you look at this and see that it's only 191 ,000 votes, 4.7 percent, and you rewind this campaign, and Vivek is more core America rather than an elitist group versus other groups, then core America carries Ohio. Presidents win when they win Ohio, and Ohio has classically been rust belt, but it's exactly what you see. The rusty Cleveland, then Cincinnati, but the rest of it, heavily, heavily conservative. But look how it moved. It moved 15 points versus how it voted for Trump. Take a look at those blue arrows. Vivek speaks about core exceptionalism of Americans and kids in school, rather than creating elite tears, which made him look very elite.

3:54:23If he doesn't say that, Vinny, I think this is a whole different race, especially when you see Ohioans that have come out and they're sitting there only five points apart. I just want to give, you know, I like my shout-outs. Can we just give a round of applause for Tom Ellsworth, the biz dog? I mean, I've been coming up to him all night. What's going on? What's going on? MSNBC's got Steve Kornacki. CNN's got Harry. And we got the biz dog with the biz dog board over here. and I'm just thankful for you, Tom. We're filling us in all night. Thank you. Tom, just say it. I want you to say this. Here's the deal.

3:54:53I'm the best. I'm the best there's ever been. I pissed. Okay, go ahead. Adam, are you going to make a point or just give your shout out? Okay, Viva's got a point. Go for it. Here's the deal. This is our software, and we're the best. No, I was just going to say, like, you take for granted that you're going to have the support of the base, and it's a big, big mistake to do. And when people were issuing the criticism back in the day and the deep state accountability and then it's just wait just wait you know it takes time to do this and then oh we couldn't do it because we were distracted with your other demands and then lo and behold nothing gets done and then you talk about activist judges blocking trump's agenda which they were you had the power to impeach them or at least threaten impeachment you didn't and so you didn't do that which was necessary to ensure that this was not just a transitional presidency into democrat rule but a transformational presidency presidency that it started off as and you had the tools of power to do it and you didn't and then you tried to blackmail and emotionally extort your supporters into voting for you because the alternative would have been worse i i got my next panel that's coming up adam if you're going to say something 30 seconds i have a question for you yeah you've talked about public losses and public humiliations this is a bad loss for trump this goes to him and i want to know what you would do as a leader of a country as a leader of a company how do you you know get back get back with your team get back with your administration and say guys we got two years left here's what we're doing as a leader as a ceo if you were in trump's ear how would you handle something like this a public humiliation yes like this yes what well what would you do what he tweeted let me read this tweet one more time you ready i wasn't on the ballot and if i was he would we would have won in a landslide no but you don't understand like that that that is undermining everybody remember him said here's the problem let me tell you what i said to me my whole thing with this list right is what we need a bench we talked about people under 40 we need a bench i'm i'm trying anyways i'm doing something behind closed doors to develop the next layer of killers that are going to be running for office that's what we're going to be doing we're going to build the next kings i'm trying to be the king maker here of getting the next talent coming up everything we're doing here this is going to be happening for a while but we need to teach the fight we need to realize there is no more trump's endorsement is a guarantee it's not just because you're endorsed by trump that is no wrong this is going to go to a complete different route and remember what ann said ann said jd is now at the top rubio drops rubio is going to want to go make money ron de santos comes up ron is going to have a pretty good thing going for himself going into 2028 but for me we have to get past the president he's done his part he's going to go in the history books and i have a feeling this is just going to be the beginning because he has the dna and the wiring this is the only concern i got he's got the dna and the wiring of vengeance and i hope after tonight he doesn't drink but i hope he goes and does this thing eats his good food good meatballs all the stuff that he's doing i hope the vengeance is not going to be at the at the cost of the republican party but republicans have to identify who's next you salute you say thank you what's going to be happening next and if that's not going to be happening this could be a lost 2028 in a massive way not in a small way so will i give you the final words and i guys i got to bring the next i was gonna say i said this on your show when i was on your show and we didn't totally talk about it but i said there is a problem with vivek being an indian guy who's a hindi instead of a you know white christian American guy.

3:58:34And I think that played a lot, a large part in this. I think that if the Republicans, instead of Vivek, would have ran a white Christian guy, you would have seen a different. I don't know about that. And let me tell you what I mean by I don't know about that. Maybe the Hindi, my opinion, we can dispute that and have the debate. I think the part is, look, I'm a guest to America. I wasn't born here. How many guys were born here? Raise your hand if you were born here i'm a guest so i think when you're coming from that standpoint you have to be very respectful when you're in someone's land and you have to speak about it in a certain way now he was also born here so to his credit i'm not saying he was not but sometime when you see a brown person especially not hispanic brown but middle eastern or hindu brown you automatically think they're not born here you know you don't think that about everybody else you have to make sure the way you communicate you have to be extra sensitive about how grateful you are for living here and the money you've created you can't have this kind of an attitude nobody likes that kind of an attitude nobody when i was a kid the kids we would bully were the snobby kids we had these rich armenian kids that would walk around and come to school with a bmw those are the kids that would get beat up or punked or bullied but there was a kid that was from a rich white kid you know from a rich family he was the nicest guy never looked down at us he hung out with us he went like this is a freaking phenomenal guy so i think that part when you kind of have your nose up and you think you're better than you can only fake that for so long but you just said that that if when you see someone who looks like maybe middle eastern or hindi or indian whatever it is that you automatically think that the person might not be from here.

4:00:19I don't think for one, for position number one as a president, that's going to be problematic. But I think for position of a governor, senator, some of those things, dude, we just had a Muslim guy whose sister said the Muslim Brotherhood senator just won. That was a Democrat. On the left, right? That was a Democrat versus a Republican. I understand that. I think the values for me is going to be more Christian, conservative, proud American, grateful, military. You have to have certain pedigree to be able to speak about that. And unfortunately, that was my son. Guys, I got to get the next. I got Steve O here.

4:00:56Make some noise for these guys. Where's Steve O? Thank you, guys. Thank you, thank you. Thank you to everybody. You guys did great. Appreciate you, buddy. Yes. All right. Next group I want to bring up. For the first time, we got Steve O. Vinny, you stick around here. Lindy Lee. Ben. Ben wants to fight, folks. He's ready to fight. We got Jeff Snyder if he's up there. Elon and Jarrah. Let me come around, man. How you doing? I love talking to you guys. Good to see you. All right, grab a seat. Finally having him here. I love talking to Steve-O and his pops when you guys come down in the debates and the arguments that we do.

4:01:39So, Ben, I'll come to you first. You got a smile on your face. How are you feeling? Oh, I feel great. Tell us why. Because the first thing you asked me tonight was about what I thought was going to happen, and I was cautious. I didn't want to exaggerate, but it looks like the blue wave is big enough to capture Texas, Kansas, South Carolina. This is big. This looks to me like a massive repudiation of the Trump administration. And I'll say one other thing, too. I've been hearing a lot of people tonight saying it's all about the war in Iran, and that definitely didn't help. That was definitely a big part of it.

4:02:20but I do not think you can pin it all on that. Trump has been very unpopular. A lot of things he's done in the last years. So you're saying if he doesn't go to war, the same results would happen tonight? If he doesn't go to war, it's probably not this bad. So give it to me. He was unpopular before the war in Iraq. Do you think Tallarico still wins? Maybe not, but I think that he was still very unpopular before he decided to win. Did you hear what Ann Coulter said? Did you listen to what Ann Coulter said? What did Ann Coulter said? I never thought that I was going to be listening to Ann Coulter and be like, you go, girl, you're here.

4:02:57I was really with her. Okay, yeah, because when she said that, she's like, what's CNN and MSN, right? Not MSN, because they lost two letters. I'm so sorry, MSN. Forgive me. I can't do it. Thank you for correcting me. I haven't clicked on this statement. I am so grateful for your correcting me. That was going to add the two letters. But, you know, the left has a tendency of adding letters. They like to keep adding letters, but that's a complete different story. But, Ben, question to you. Ann said on CNN, on MSN, on everybody, they're saying, oh, it's because of the tariffs. It's because of this.

4:03:27It's because of that. It's because – nothing about Iran. Okay? Do you have that same position yourself? No, I think Iran was huge, but I also think it's coped to say that it was just Iran because I remember before Iran, like back in – Iran started in February. Back in December, back in January, every time there was a big Trump controversy, you know, something happened, like the shootings in Minneapolis, there was always about a third of the country in polls that sided with Trump and about two thirds that didn't. And so I think saying everything would have been totally fine and copacetic if not for the Iran war, I think that that's not grappling with just how unpopular Trump has been in general.

4:04:10Okay, so let me tell you guys, we got a friend of ours here. Do we have our buddy, the weightlifter that can do two plates, I think 25 times like a combine. Do we have Steven Crowder with us or not? Let me see those shoulders. Where's his traps at? Do we have Crowder with us or no? I'm right here. Can you not see me? How you doing? How you feeling? How you doing? The Persian hammer. I knew. I needed words of comfort because I said, hey, you know what? The fight continues. This guy knows how to fight. Patrick Moran, for God's sake. They're framing me for a crime. So, Steve, let me ask you. You keep telling everybody they can impersonate me better than everybody else.

4:04:45Let me hear it. Look, I'm not going to do an impersonation of you because the Persian hammer, there's only one, right? There's only one guy who's a Persian hammer. There are other people who might be other kinds, right, of hammers, my man, but only one Persian hammer. Look at those biceps. I'll give it to you. I'll give it to you. I'll give it to you. So, Stephen, what are you thinking? What are you thinking about, you know, you've been very instrumental, panel specifically last 12 months and i've always been a fan of what you've done but what do you what do you think about what's going on today lots been said a lot of different angles where you at well i will tell you this um my main thing is there are legitimate reasons so we ran this earlier you know there was the mike rogers tweet that went out everywhere it was a quote of mike rogers and the quote with a clip we do this segment called clickbait you know this week in clickbait it said i joined the u.s military to serve israel and if i join the senate i will join the senate to serve Israel.

4:05:34And it was uploaded natively three or four times with the exact same quote, but the clip, he doesn't say anything like that at all whatsoever. And that had millions of plays. And we see a lot of fake news out there. So I think we need to separate real legitimate grievances and where this party has failed, the wake up call versus the manufactured issues versus the fake issues. And my big concern is there's going to be the wrong takeaway because statistically, historically, we've talked about this with this kind of a flip, there's an 80 % chance that Democrats win in 2028. But the more concerning thing is almost invariably, without exceptions, so if you talk about the Tuckers, the Nick Quintesses, the Marjorie Taylor Greene, the people saying sit out or vote Democrat because we'll get someone better, you're going to get a Romney or McCain.

4:06:14My concern is people look at this and they don't go, hey, this was a referendum on MAGA, on Trumpism, no longer serving the movement, but serving this sort of insular, almost a new swamp, but they think the Republican Party needs to moderate because that would be the wrong takeaway. And that's my concern. Otherwise, my job doesn't change, right? The fight goes on every day. But what's your major takeaway here? I think Ron DeSantis is the big winner. I think he is the biggest winner right now. He's sitting around and everybody is saying, Ron, good for you. Why? And I'll tell you why. Because all the other states lost.

4:06:48Byron Donalds looks like he won because of Byron Donalds. But Byron Donalds won. Good for him. I'm not disputing anything about him running. Byron Donalds won because Ron DeSantis crushed running the state of Florida the way that he did the last eight years, and he's now handing it over to somebody, oh, six years, whatever the time. I think it's eight years. So I think everybody in the state won. All the other people didn't. So this is an opportunity where Ron DeSantis, by the way, can you do me a favor? Pull up Calci on Ron DeSantis right now. I'm wondering on what the trading right now is, Ron.

4:07:22if anybody's a trader on Calci, if anybody's a trader, this may not, no, no, no. The one that shows all the different candidates, you know which one I'm talking about? The one that shows all the different candidates. I want to know where Ron is on that list right now. Can you pull them up? I'll give you a second for you to find it when you guys pull that up. I always feel like when you say, I'll give you a second to pull it up, someone's getting fired because they're not getting what you want. Why are you leaking my strategy on how I build my business? You're making it feel like I fire. We did a video the other day.

4:07:55Everybody knows Tom fires everyone. I don't fire. Tom's the one. You guys miss. I'm so sick of this, of you guys thinking Tom's this nice little sweetheart. Every day Tom fires five people. I have to hire ten people every day for Tom firing five people. This guy's got a temper. Nobody sees it. They all think he's a nice Christian guy. I'm sick of it, honestly. All the negative reviews I'm getting. Hey, calm down, calm down. If people know one thing about me, it's that I say, no, no, don't be tired of it, because if people know one thing about me, they all know that I say Tom's a piece of shit.

4:08:28So, you're fine. Tom's a piece of shit. So don't have this tree. Love you, Tom. Love you, Tom. And Gerald the panderer. We had cigars, we had wine. Go ahead, Tom. Oh, boy. See, that's the face of death. What is this all about? He's not happy with you. He knows the true you. He knows what you're all about. Do you have red in his hair? Does he have red in his hair? Does Tom have red in his hair? It's called lights. The light here, we got the red, blue, and white. There's this American flag that has those three colors. Well, next time fire your lighting director so Tom doesn't look like fucking Rufio.

4:09:06But continue. That's a good point. That's a good point. DeSantis. By the way, that's also an insight because that's something we got to follow up on. We had a meeting yesterday saying, why does Pat hair look red? Anyways, let me come back to you. Let me come back to you. Pull up the couch for me. Pull up the couch for me. Where's Ron DeSantis? He's officially third. Okay? And by the way, he's going to move up very aggressively. So I think he was the winner. I think it was a rough night. Maybe the roughest night. And I'm just watching to see how Trump's going to react. So let me ask you this. What do you think Trump's reaction is going to be?

4:09:42What do you think is going to happen next to Trump? We saw it on Truth Social. We saw it, by the way, on Truth Social, where he said, I wasn't on the ballot, but if I was, you can bet that we would have won. And his White House, someone from White House Communications also tweeted. And this is the problem. It's not a policy issue. It really does, I think, people who voted for Donald Trump and rightfully feel like they have not been listened to. And you see that in the response. This response will be echoed on leftist media for a very long time. They'll go, look, he's the elitist that we told you he was.

4:10:10Instead of helping, coalescing and galvanizing people for the fight, it's, look, I didn't do it. I don't know what you did. If I was there, we would have won. And I will tell you, that's something that's always bothered me about him. And he highlighted that tonight. It's a personal issue, not a policy one. So, but what do you think he does the next two years? I asked Beck earlier, and I'm sure you haven't seen it because you're running a show yourself as well. You know how Beck did that video last week that went viral about, hey, I haven't said this since 2008. I'm concerned about what's going to happen next.

4:10:38What do you think he does the next 60 days between now and when the Democrats take over the House and the Senate? What does he do next 60 days? I don't know, but we do actually have some breaking information here, if you're good for this. I don't know if you guys called this yet, but we just got it. Kansas, the Senate in Kansas right now, we are officially calling. And you're going to cut out for a second. You'll be able to see this. But the Kansas Senate, unfortunately, is going to the Democrat, Adam Hamilton. We called that already. Is it official that it's Democratic, Congress, and Senate? Oh, yeah.

4:11:13It's done, done. Big news in Kansas. Yes. What do you think about that? Does that mean that Iran war ends? Can you mute that, by the way, guys? On the back, Jake. Lord, the audience is going to mute it. Yeah, both of them. Does that increase the odds of this goddamn war in Iran ending sooner? Not the next 60 days. So not the next 60 days. He's got – Jeff, what do you think? What do you think he's going to do next 60 days? Oh, I think there's an attack in Iran tomorrow. Well, it wasn't there already. No, that was because they shot down a drone and he hit. So nobody got hurt. Nothing's happened yet.

4:11:46In fact, PBD, I think Democrats are incentivized to prolong the war to ensure that they have a higher chance of winning in 2020. I think you're right. Do not underestimate their Machiavellian tendencies. They will do anything to take back the White House. God, I wish that were true. I mean, that is true. The idea that Democrats are these Machiavellian masterminds rather than— Dude, I was with them my entire life at the highest echelon of the party. But we can all read the news. We can all read the news. We know that Chuck Schumer and Hakeem Jeffries and all these people are unfortunately not You don't think Hillary Clinton is Machiavellian?

4:12:22I wish they were. You don't think Hillary Clinton is Machiavellian? You don't think Barack Obama is Machiavellian? So we're going back to Hillary Clinton who controls what now? No, you don't think Barack Obama is Machiavellian? Okay, so now we're going back to 2016. That was the last time. I don't think you know how the party works. Have never been Machiavellian? No, I'm not saying Democrats have never been Machiavellian. I'm saying the current leadership is pretty spideless, unfortunately. I wish you were right. Barack Obama continues to exert profound influence on the direction of the party because there is now a power vacuum.

4:12:57It's either that or Zohar Mamdani. So the establishment of the DNC has actually turned back to Barack Obama. He's become the figurehead. So yes, indeed, Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama are incredibly relevant. And don't think that Chuck Schumer is making decisions on his own. He is taking orders from his big donors and from people like Barack Obama. They are listening to him. And the general rhetoric on the left to embrace even political violence has increased tremendously over the past years. You saw it post-Charlie Kirk. You see people on the left celebrating on Halloween Charlie Kirk's assassination.

4:13:32That's been happening tonight. So I'm sorry, but you're talking about individual random people's Halloween costumes. There wasn't a single, there was not a single prominent person on the left who condoned what happened to Charlie Kirk or, in fact, didn't condemn it. I can pull up a video. I don't have a video here, but forget Charlie Kirk. There are videos of, obviously, I don't have the tech technology, but I'll DM it to you, of a highlight. of go out there and whoever said protests has to be peaceful you should go like harass people in the street it's like this rhetoric that is endorsing from legitimate political figures so it's not just you know coming from there's it's trickled down to some extent that what's endorsed at the top is starting to be endorsed at the bottom and you are seeing a trend who's the person on the top who's endorsed political violence uh i thought today with elon musk Elon Musk We were talking about calling Elon Musk a traitor and treating him like the Rosenberg We were talking about the Ron Warren somehow he got sidelined to Charlie Kirk's Halloween costumes but I do want to say to answer your question there are a number of videos of Nancy Pelosi espousing violence like go fight in the streets, go do that so you can't just pretend it doesn't happen The idea that Nancy Pelosi advocates political violence is something that might get taken seriously in this room.

4:14:56There are videos. But you're not going to get that taken seriously anywhere else. You cannot deny that there are videos. Yes, I certainly can. Excuse me, you're just speaking over me. I think any video that you're interpreting that way, I think, has been taken hopelessly. Ben, let her give her a go for it. I don't speak over you, so please don't speak over me. But I think we should go back to the more important issue of the Irvine War, and it's just deeply unfortunate. I left my party to support this administration, to support this Republican Party. And I see dozens of tweets out there saying, oh, is Lindy Lee going to switch back?

4:15:28Sorry, BBD, you're stuck with me. I'm going down with the ship, guys. But I do want to say this. Two years ago, conservatives were filled with hope. We had historic coalition. We had minorities. We had young people. We had Latinos. We had Asians. and it was such an amazing opportunity to unify the country behind a positive agenda, and I feel like we squandered that in late February. I feel like also, I hate to bring it up, but it is deeply mentioned frequently. It's the Epstein files. A lot of young Americans are really despondent over that, and we can't just pretend it doesn't exist. Yeah, Jeff pulled up something that was really interesting earlier.

4:16:0988 % of people voted based on the economy, And it all comes down, in my opinion, and Jeff gave me a good talking too back there. There's certain cyclical realities in the economy. And there's some really, really interesting trends. And there's unfortunate realities that when people are feeling like their life isn't going how they wanted, that they took a risk and they voted on someone. And then they're stuck there and the messaging is so disconnected. It's so disconnected. When Trump came out and he said we're in a golden era for the economy just recently, that's a disconnected comment. that reverberates to America.

4:16:42It hits them especially hard when they put their trust into Trump. And then they're feeling like they're now struggling to pay for groceries. And that's why you do see all this, you know, what Crowder was talking about, all this manipulative messaging that's not honest, where it's like, well, we're paying, you know, this much money because we're sending money to Israel. You could do all those things because there is a real grievance to take advantage of. That allows all that other messaging. I'll let you take over, Jeff, because I know you. You asked earlier, Tallarico, he had this election sewn up last year.

4:17:11We saw this last year in the off-year elections, whether it was Virginia and New Jersey. The amount of anger, the amount of disconnect, it was not just the Iran war was, like I said earlier, the Iran war was sort of the last straw. The anger, let's be honest here, the American people are pissed off. They are pissed off in a big, huge way. And like you said, Elon, the messaging has just been completely disconnected. in um republicans sort of went with the idea that the affordability crisis made up by democrats that was the exact wrong thing you realize this is the same exact battle that biden had on his hands he had to somehow convince the american people that the economy was better than it was and obviously the biden economics became a laughing stock but i also want to point out guys well that's because nothing changed trump came in office saying i'm going to build this Did you know inflation is around 3.7 % right now?

4:18:05Hold on a second. Inflation today is higher than it was when Trump entered office, so he can no longer say that it's Biden's fault. But just to put it into macroeconomic perspective, this is the single biggest repudiation of a political party since 1974, Jimmy Carter. This is the scale and the magnitude of today's loss. Today was a very big deal. Yeah, but there was massive complacency that took place on the right. I want to do this. Don't even get me started on that. I want to go to Jarrah. And for some of you guys that don't know who Jarrah is, Jarrah's been a friend of ours for many, many years.

4:18:41And Jarrah was an insider with Ken Paxton. So Ken Paxton, who looks like Tom, can you tell us how far behind Ken? Is it done done by how many millions? I want to know actually by how many millions Tallarico won against Paxton. Okay, here we go. If you don't mind sharing that. We'll go to Texas Senate right here. and James Tallarico is sitting right now 1.395 with 70 % reported on the nose. Unbelievable. And so I want to get your insight, but before we do so, let me go to one thing that I've been very excited about. You know, for us, if Angel Studios comes out with a movie, we watch it as a family.

4:19:18It doesn't matter if it's Washington, Runner, you name it, they come out with a sound of freedom, we're going to go watch the movie. One thing I'm excited, I remember the first time I met these guys at Angel Studio. We were in LA. We sat down and they told me about their Angels Guild. Like they literally would bring commercials of a movie and they will allow the people that pay the membership on a monthly basis to score if they like it or not. Then they would fund it and they would say, well, I don't like this. I don't like that. And the users, the number of people that are using Angel Studios, the movies that they're making, you get to say yay, nay, and then they fund the movies and the movies becomes on the big screen.

4:19:51So if you're somebody that's watching this and you're not yet member of angel studios with what they're doing i would go on their website angel.com movies shows for the whole family they got different kind of basic 12 a month they got one with 18 and 20 month 20 a month for a premium you can also do it annually but i would go to angel.com i'm excited there's a story that came out the other day about angel that they don't do movies with f-bombs they don't do sex scenes and so family friendly take your kids take your family you don't have to worry about any of that stuff so go to angel.com become a member now so with that being said uh jara you live in texas right um you're pro second amendment person you've trained us i think we brought you in one time you trained i think it was 30 of us 20 of us i don't know what the number was on going out there getting trained on how do you you've done this for a long time but you were an insider working with paxton when was the moment for you where you said, I don't know if this is going to work?

4:20:50Was there one? What did you learn? We've had a lot of really high-level commentary tonight, and I think that this is a really good opportunity to bring it down to the local level. So for those of you who don't know me, I'm Jared Turner. I'm a precinct chair in Texas, and what we do is we are the grassroots. We're the ones that are going and knocking on doors or having the conversations on people's porches with them about how they're feeling. And a lot of that you have spoken to tonight. and they are feeling this way. They're not happy with the Iran war. They're not happy with the economy. But I have a little bit of a different perspective on this because I campaigned for Paxton.

4:21:30I campaigned for other Republican candidates. To see this tonight, it's very sad and heartbreaking. And to be frank, I'm a little pissed off. And I think that Ken Paxton owes us an apology. He owes the grassroots an apology. We broke our backs. We put thousands of miles on our Nikes in neighborhoods, having porch conversations with people, trying to get them to understand that they should vote on policy because Tallarico's policies are awful. Okay. Paxton has better policies, but he didn't put in the effort. And that's what's so frustrating for us is he rode that wave of the primaries where he beat cornyn and he and he he thought he could ride that he thought he could ride endorsements into the into the midterms and so he didn't put in the effort that was needed that's the problem how many people feel like you how many people feel like you who were working on the campaign almost every precinct chair in tarrant county and here's and here's something that here's a here's something that you need to know i live in tarrant county So Tarrant County was the last Republican urban stronghold in Texas, and it is gone.

4:22:42It's gone. Harris County is blue. Travis County is blue. Tarrant County is now blue. All of the Republican judges gone tonight, y 'all. This is a big deal. This is a huge deal for us. Texas is gone and we have until 2028 to try to reverse course and make this better. But Paxton is a big culprit here and I'm really mad at him. We did a lot of work. We did a lot of groundwork for him. Do you understand the uncomfortable conversations that we had to have with people on their porches about the decisions that this man made in public, in his marriage, going on vacation with his mistress in the middle of a campaign and we had to try to find creative ways to still get people to the polls.

4:23:33The evangelical Republicans are pissed off at this man right now. He owes us a huge apology and I want it. And you said something earlier that I have to push back on. I don't know if you can tell how angry I am right now, but I have to push back on you. You said earlier in the, in the podcast that if, if Paxton won this race, he owed it to one man and that was Elon Musk. I disagree. It's very easy to write a check to a campaign. If he won this tonight, it would be because the grassroots got him there. The people who were walking the streets and knocking on doors and getting people to the polls and poll greeting, that is who he would have owed.

4:24:09But he squandered it and he put it and he shit all over it because he spent too much time talking about how weird Tallarico is instead of his plan to better Texas. lindy yeah i just i appreciate that that was fantastic thank you i think if the american people i want every your what you just said on every screen in every living room in america that was so important although i will say the smartest thing for him to do was not to run at all it should have been cornyn it should have been cornyn we would have won texas tonight had it been cornyn we squandered so much money trying to prop up a candidate whose own wife had trouble endorsing him I mean, what does that tell you?

4:24:50What does that tell you? That's all you need to know about the quality of this candidate. We spent so much money and time and resources propping up candidates who had no business running. South Carolina should not have gone down tonight, folks. That was an unforced error. And you know what? And you know what? You're right. And maybe you're right about Cornyn. I don't really know. But you really said it, Pat, earlier the other day where you said, you know, don't pick your favorite kids too early. You know, we've said it several times tonight that we need better candidates and that the Republican Party has to turn out, you know, a better product.

4:25:27But I think that one of the nails in the coffin for Paxton, too, is that he refused to debate. And that was a big thing that I saw on people's porches and in their yards and on the streets when I was talking to people. I knocked the door. I knocked thousands of doors. The precinct chairs in Texas knocked thousands of doors, had hundreds of thousands of conversations with people. And they said, why wouldn't Paxton debate? Tallarico was ready to debate. So we opened this door for this Trojan horse that Tallarico has just kind of pulled in on a leash with this velvet cage that he's presenting to people where they are sacrificing their independence for comfort and lies.

4:26:06And we opened it up. We did it because the Republican Party got complacent, and Paxton is probably the most disappointing of them all. I think people didn't vote blue tonight. They voted against red. And so the very complacency, the frustrations you're experiencing, everything you're saying. People are looking. I'm looking for authenticity in the people that represent me. I'm looking for some degree of honesty. I want to know that what I'm putting my energy into, my future into, is actually going to pay me back somehow. I don't care about the person who's not in control. I care about the person who is in control.

4:26:41And so if I'm not getting what I need in that case, I'll do whatever it takes. And I think this is a backlash toward that. And you see a lot of people who don't care how bad they might see it on the left. They're just pissed off at the right, and they're voting out of that frustration and that anger. It's not necessarily that they support anything on the other side. It's that they're frustrated with what they're seeing in front of them and how they were represented. And so it's very, very hard, again, if you don't come back. And I think, honestly, I hope this is a huge wake-up call for the right.

4:27:08I think sometimes, you know, you got to get punched in the mouth and then it's how you get back up. Let me say this still. Let me say this. Everybody that we've had here on the panel, we're about to wrap up here and finish it off. And it's, to me, you know, I'm very optimistic about the future. Nothing changes with mine. But of everybody that we had on the panel here tonight, no one was vested for an election more than a Jera. She's vested. I remember one time we're in D.C. This is after Trump won. and I'm at this guy's house. I don't know whose house. It was a beautiful house. And I'm talking to the guy that was working in Pennsylvania to get all the signatures and go out there and do all the things, and he was telling me how hard these guys were working.

4:27:49By the way, I don't know if you know the schedules of what they do. Their work, they got jobs, family, all this stuff, running around, making calls. It's a lot of work. The part that you have to be thinking about is Trump did his part. 30 stops in two weeks. It's not like he didn't go to the stops. He didn't sit there and not do anything about his part. Then everybody was waiting, well, if Trump comes, it's going to be done, we're going to win, everything's going to work itself out. It's not. I hope this becomes a learning lesson to see what's going to happen next. What I'm interested in is the biggest losers and winners of what the Democrats are going to do these 60 days.

4:28:27These 60 days. What Trump's going to do these next 60 days than what they're going to be doing next two years. If they push hard, Trump's going to win. Another person's going to win in 2028. If they go with a different strategy, It could be an AOC in 2028. If the war continues, AOC folks will be your president in 2028. You know what a lot of people are going to say? There is no way in the world somebody like that's going to win. There is no way an Abdullah side is going to win. And there is no way in the world that James Tallarico is going to win. And you know what you're going to say in 2028?

4:28:56There is no way in the world AOC. Holy shit, AOC is the president in 2028. I've been with Trump. I've been saying this for years. Well, they have to go through John Ossoff and Gavin Newsom first. I've been saying that Newsom is a such a flip flopper. He has no backbone. At least, you know what AOC stands for. Nobody knows what the hell Newsom stands for. One day he's prop 41. He's prop 42. One day he's for the wealth tax. One day he's not. He has no backbone. He's not a marketable guy. I can't get behind a guy like that, but AOC will at least get people because she's a true believer in what she believes in.

4:29:27And that today, if the number one draft pick on who's going to win 2020 at election, if everything goes the way it is today, AOC is your president in 2028. If the Republicans don't get their act together and change and realize shit's really on the line, that's what's going to happen. Now, I'm not saying it's going to happen to you. Republicans are going to go back, back to the drawing board, strategy. What are we going to do? What do we do with money? You know what else we learned? You know what else we learned? We learned$400 million means nothing from Musk. He put$400 million of his own money.

4:29:56He put$160 million in Texas. Nothing. Tallarico destroyed Paxton. But again, we saw that. So a part of that is to show that the money in politics didn't mean anything this year. This is a very big argument for the Democrats to make, that we won without the big guy because he's going to bring a billion dollars in 2028. You know what? Think about what you're thinking if you're Elon. How pissed off are you? So she went and did the legwork, right, going and knocking on doors. He put up the money. What is he thinking about? What is he thinking about for 2028? Think about that conversation, right? You don't think he's going to be more selective on seeing who's going to run, who's not going to run?

4:30:36It's going to be an interesting next couple of years. PBD, there's something that we haven't mentioned at all tonight, if I'm correct. We didn't mention the backlash of gerrymandering, which in this cycle I called it dummymandering. Because after all that talk, after all these states, you know how many seats Republicans gain net? Three. After all that, the billions that were spent on these, redrawing these districts. and so this actually incited African American voters incited Democrats to do everything they could to go to the polls they even had operations called souls to the polls so I think it's really we need to be careful about not overplaying our hand if I could if I could bring up one more point I think that one of the other issues that we have is the way that sessions are done I have I have floated the idea of changing the Texas Constitution because right now we meet every other year in the odd years, January through May, no true middle class person, right, no teacher, no lineman, no gun instructor, right, no mom is going to be able to take six months off of work and go to session.

4:31:43So these sessions now favor the wealthy as candidates, and we can't have that. We need regular everyday people represented in our House legislature, and I think that we need to change the Constitution to change our sessions. I would rather have, you know, a two-week session every quarter, right? I can take off work two weeks. I took a huge financial hit, Pat, to campaign for these people. I mean, I canceled classes. That's my livelihood, to go out and knock on doors, you know, during the day. I wasn't doing this in the evening and on the weekends. I cleared my schedule for these people, and then I got Ken Paxton that ran a half-assed campaign, and that's why we're mad.

4:32:21Yeah. Yeah, I mean, look, I hope the right people, can we clip that and post what Jarrah said at the beginning? I think the market needs to hear that because that's raw. That's from the streets, and that's not coming from somebody on the opposing side criticizing you. That's somebody from your own side saying, what the hell are you doing? Last but not least before we wrap up, I'm going to go to two people. We need our in-depth analysis from the one and only Steve Ho. Steve, please, I know you're somebody that's hardcore experienced with politics. to spend your thing your entire life i know sometimes you act like you're not following i know you do what are you thinking um i'm looking at the calci uh roster of the most likely republican uh you know primary jd vance in first place oof what do you think oof is he really you When I look at the Trump administration, from my perspective, I listen to Mark Rubio talk.

4:33:27He seems like the only adult in the room, the way that he talks. The way that, you know, I think Mark Rubio is stronger for you guys than J.D. Vance. Who do you think on the left? Because right now Ossoff is above Newsom. I think Gavin Newsom, no bueno, man. Why? I just think he just seems slimy. I think he seems slimy. And his whole thing with, like, Rogan, and it's just like, and, like, to your point, flipping the flop and the COVID and he's in the restaurant, you know, it's just a lot of bad stuff. I don't dig. How much time do you spend watching politics per week? I watch fucking Jon Stewart on The Daily Show, man.

4:34:14He is good. So you watch John Street? Who else do you watch? I love watching John Street. You know, what I'm most focused on is not even the politics. It's the economy. BBD. The debt. The fucking unsustainable. Now we're looking at the bond yields creating even more interest payments. Are we already over a trillion dollars? in interest alone annually? I think we are, right? Interest payments over a trillion. Yeah. It's a doom loop. It's a spiral. This is my concern. Red, blue, I don't care. My concern is the fucking debt. And then you got the AI. But really what's happening with the AI, My concern is that trillions of dollars of venture capital are being sucked and then it's going out the window because that, well, this.

4:35:21You know what I can tell you is going to happen to the stock market tomorrow? It's going to be a bloodbath tomorrow. When you wake up, I know you're in the business. When you wake up tomorrow, what is it doing right now? Already. It's already down 2.5%. It's going to be a bloodbath tomorrow when you wake up in the stock market. Tom, Steve-O, thank you for that, and thank you for coming down. Thank you. By the way, you stick around for a couple days? I fly out on Thursday. Okay, so we'll talk afterwards. Tom, last thoughts. I'm going to leave you with the last thoughts. What's going on? So, final thoughts.

4:35:54It didn't have to be this way. We all know it didn't have to be this way. That's how a breakup sounds like. You know, it's like he's breaking up with us. Go ahead. If you take a look here, here's the balance of power. 51 are already decided. There's more races that are out there. But I want to go to three and show you just how close it is and what didn't have to happen. Let's go to first to Michigan, right? The seven-point victory is not showing up. He's up 2.4%. He's up 44 ,000 votes, Abdul al-Sayed. And we've got 1.8 million votes in. And look at how the Upper Peninsula and the, you know, as they say, the thumb, the Peninsula, UP and all that.

4:36:36You see what's going on down there in Detroit, which you expected. It's pretty amazing considering Donald Trump took this 49.7%. Then we go to Mississippi. Look how close this is. This will shock you. You have, look at this, 12 ,000 votes and you could potentially have a Democrat senator from Mississippi. Then look at Maine. Susan Collins had had this so long. And look at this. 1.2%, 4 ,172 vote lead. That's it. These are places that didn't have to be this close. This is what the nation swings on, because this is the Senate. The Senate is the Supreme Court confirmation hearings. The Senate is where so much ratification comes.

4:37:26The power is in the Senate. And you take a look at what's happened to these senators, Pat. But it didn't have to be this close. If there was just some, you know, some I echo what Jara said. You know, I feel like all the foundations that raise money and they put them into the packs and they ignore it. It ignores the little man that's out voting and the little guy that's out voting that gives 15 bucks to his candidate and knocks on doors and everything. And this is what you get in terms of the campaign. This is the kind of candidates you get. It is an insult. And so now on this insult, this is the group that's going to control the Supreme Court justice appointment process.

4:38:03Oh, and there's a lot more to it. There's a lot more to it. But trust me, here's, they're going to go, when the Republicans won, Trump won in 2024, if you remember, the eight and a half hours of us being live and not using the restroom, and a lot of people thought I had a bathroom down here. I did not. I sweat out whatever I was dealing with. Everyone's like, how did you go without peeing for eight and a half hours? Tonight I haven't peed for four and a half hours, five and a half hours, but I'm going to go handle them. Too much information for you. You don't need to know this kind of stuff, but when we do this.

4:38:31If you remember how it ended, Tom, that night, what time was it? Two, three o 'clock in the morning? I don't know what it was. It was super late. And I said, sometimes when you win this big, you get cocky. This is why very few do back-to-back-to-back championships. The Dodgers missed out on the back-to-back-to-back this year. It's very hard to do back-to-back. What happens? You get cocky. You get arrogant. You think you're going to keep winning like this. And when you lose, what happens? You step on, you go on the drawing boards. You don't think Republicans are going to go out there and go on the drawing boards and see what they're going to be doing next.

4:39:08They learned a lot from this election. This is the first election we had where, what do you call the Calci market, all the stuff that you see, it revealed a lot. And to be honest, you know who else was a winner tonight? Calci was a winner tonight. They said this was going to happen, and they were right. So Calci's CEO is going to go out tomorrow and say what? I told you guys we were right. A lot of people are paying attention to the prediction markets. But anyways, to everybody that joined us here, YouTube, C-SPAN, all the people that are still here, some of you guys are smoking cigars in the back.

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