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25 Sep 2026 · 2h 12m · 47 chapters

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Trump Threatens Iran, Britain Targets Billionaires & Lesbian Bar Freakout | PBD Podcast #862

In short

A wide-ranging news-and-culture discussion that mixes international politics, U.S. domestic policy, business/finance stories, and viral media controversies. The hosts also debate social issues (jury ethics, alcohol use, euthanasia) and share “best stories” from outlets like Bloomberg and the Boston Globe.

Guest(s)

Chris Wagner (from Indiana). He says he has six kids with the same woman, born over seven years. He joined via a podcast merch raffle/contest. No other guest is clearly interviewed in the provided transcript.

Key claims and notable examples

  1. Britain to assign dedicated HMRC/IRS-style compliance managers to each billionaire; hosts argue it’s a bad idea because billionaires can relocate (Monaco, Dubai/UAE) and cite “millionaire migration” numbers (UK losing millionaires; UAE and U.S. gaining).
  2. Trump’s remarks about Iran at a UN meeting; Israel’s officials allegedly tracking who leaves; Xi Jinping’s aircraft/bombers and staged interactions.
  3. Sonny Hostin allegedly bragging about being a holdout juror in the “Butcher of Tompkins Square Park” case (Daniel Rakowitz), which the hosts condemn as insensitive and potentially factually inconsistent.
  4. A “lesbian communist bar” story: patrons get angry about a proposal to remove masks one day a week for profit; hosts frame it as capitalism/socialism hypocrisy.
  5. A Canadian case where an elderly woman with cancer is euthanized despite family objections; hosts contrast it with a U.S.-style “start Minecraft/YouTube” alternative.
  6. Housing/mortgage rates (7.5% 30-year) and other business items (Starbucks closing 250 stores; Social Security benefit age proposal; Gen Z iced coffee interview etiquette).

Written by AI. May contain mistakes.

Chapters

0:40

Discussing Current Events and British Billionaires

Hosts discuss the news about Britain's IRS agents dedicated to billionaires.

“We had a tornado that came through Dallas.”
2:34

Iran and International Tensions

Discussion about Trump's comments on Iran and reactions from global leaders.

“And by the way, as crazy as this story is, watch how many blue states take this idea.”
4:40

Stories from the Boston Globe and Community Highlights

Hosts highlight stories including a communist lesbian bar and a grandmother learning Minecraft.

“And we have to tell this story because, you know, she just, I don't know, she's a wild one.”
8:14

Housing Market and Economic Trends

Discussion on rising mortgage rates and current housing market conditions.

“If somebody knows, I'd love to call her and make it even a little bit better.”
10:00

Workplace Etiquette and Generational Differences

Hosts discuss Gen Z's iced coffee habit during interviews and related etiquette issues.

“And I'll tell you why I think we need to go the other way.”
15:36

Britain's Strategy for Billionaires

Discuss the UK's decision to assign dedicated IRS agents to billionaires for tax compliance.

“And let me tell you what my favorite story of the day is.”
16:38

The Debate on Exit Taxes

Explore the implications of exit taxes in the UK and Canada for wealthy individuals.

“or it may shrink the base it's taxing, and both outcomes will arrive with receipts.”
19:08

Consequences of Tax Policy on Wealth

The discussion focuses on the mobility of billionaires and millionaires in response to tax policies.

“Listen, there's clients we have at the Cigar Lounge, at the boardroom, which, by the way, if you're local and you want to learn more about it, go to the boardroom cigar lounge for Lauderdale.”
22:51

The Impact on Millionaires and IRS Audits

Examine how tax strategies affect millionaires and the conduct of IRS audits.

“Well, I would assume that you want to become a millionaire.”
25:01

The Ethics of Taxation for Billionaires

Engage in a discussion about the ethical implications of taxing billionaires and their tax strategies.

“No, that's about right, what the number is.”
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26:14

Sonny Hostin's Controversial Jury Experience

Review Sonny Hostin's experience as a juror in a notorious murder case and its broader implications.

“Next topic I want to go to is the story with Patrick Clancy, which I'm going to first go to Sonny Hostin.”
28:00

Insanity Defense Discussion

Explore the controversial use of the insanity defense in a murder case.

“But he fed - that's how much I believe in the insanity defense.”
29:23

Reactions to Murder and Media Coverage

Analyze the media's portrayal of serious crimes and juror interactions.

“Remember on that show, Finding Your Roots?”
31:03

Parental Responsibility and Crime

Discuss the implications of parental negligence in tragic circumstances.

“And I find it really, really venal that she sits there and speaks like this as if it's some, you know, just, you know, speeding ticket, you know, cop's word against the motorist word.”
33:59

Female Role Models in Media

Examine the influence of female-led media on societal perceptions of women.

“I left my daughter when she was 14 months old in the back of our car.”
35:09

Mental Health and Crime

Discuss the complexities of mental health in relation to criminal behavior.

“Look, I literally never watch the view, so the only time I see clips of the view is when we show them on this show.”
37:09

Tragic Stories of Negligence

Share real-life stories highlighting the consequences of parental negligence.

“If you're going to kill somebody, kill kids.”
44:40

Discussion on Tragic Incident and Public Perception

Explore a tragic family incident and the differing public reactions.

“I don't know if it was a million, but it was a lot.”
51:41

Real Estate Market Analysis

Analyze current mortgage rates and their impact on the housing market.

“Next story I want to get to is Tom this morning says 30-year mortgage rates are at 7.5, even if you've got a 750 score.”
56:00

Real Estate Market Insights

Discussion on the current state of the housing market and buying strategies.

“It means if you took the number of condos sold this month, it would take 12 months like that to sell everyone that's for sale right now.”
1:07:38

Iran and Trump's Statement at the UN

Analysis of Trump's speech regarding Iran and diplomatic tensions.

“President gets up, and he looks at the president of Iran, Pezeshkan, who is there.”
1:10:00

Iran's Tragic History and U.S. Involvement

Discussion on the tragic impacts of war in Iran and U.S. involvement.

“And I come from an Iran where, in truth, they bombed a school.”
1:10:58

Analyzing Trump's Statements on Iran

Analysis of Trump's position on Iran and his comments on dealing with the regime.

“The reality of it is the allies that they have.”
1:13:38

The Role of the UN and Global Leadership

Critique of the UN's effectiveness and its current state in global politics.

“They're not thinking about campaign and presidential 2028 and let me go lose some weight and all this.”
1:17:00

Ideological Challenges in Negotiations

Discussion on the challenges of negotiating with ideologically driven regimes.

“You know, I think it was formed in 1945, right, during the end of the World War II.”
1:19:59

Trump's Unconventional Approach to Foreign Policy

Exploration of Trump's foreign policy decisions and their implications.

“They just wait to – if I'm the enemy, guess what I say?”
1:24:01

Misreading American Politics: Iran's Perspective

Discussing Iran's misunderstanding of the U.S. political system and the implications for national security.

“Democrats are going to win in November and the president will no longer be able to do things against them.”
1:26:25

Henry Ford's Influence on Michigan and Immigrants

Exploring Henry Ford's role in bringing immigrants to Michigan and establishing the first mosque.

“So if you go back, Ford hated, he had issues with Jews.”
1:28:45

Ford Tattoos and Lighthearted Banter

A humorous exchange about Ford tattoos and gathering at dinner.

“Yesterday at dinner, we're sitting there.”
1:29:08

B.B. Netanyahu's Controversial Speech and Walkout

Discussing the reactions to Netanyahu's speech and the subsequent walkout by attendees.

“That's not the main highlight of the story, okay?”
1:30:28

B.B. Netanyahu's Controversial Speech and Walkout

Discussing the reactions to Netanyahu's speech and the subsequent walkout by attendees.

“You know that friend you only call when you need something?”
1:32:29

Critique of UN and Israel's Condemnations

Analyzing the United Nations' condemnation statistics and their implications for Israel.

“And the comedian is just bombing and everybody's, no pun intended, but you know what I mean?”
1:38:00

Global Politics and Leadership

A discussion about the fairness of international relations and leadership longevity, particularly focusing on Israel's political landscape.

“any fouls on Draymond Green on Bill Lambert on Dennis Rodman none of them people who are doing obviously the worst things but LeBron James got 188 different fouls something may be going on here.”
1:40:36

Job Interview Etiquette: Iced Coffee Debate

The hosts debate whether bringing iced coffee to a job interview is appropriate, exploring generational perspectives on professionalism.

“The biggest difference that I just want to say is this.”
1:42:56

Casualness in Professional Settings

A continued discussion on perceptions of professionalism in interviews and casual behaviors, including beverage choices.

“Don't bring in a great big jug that tells everybody you're on one of those gallon a day diets.”
1:44:34

Casualness in Professional Settings

A continued discussion on perceptions of professionalism in interviews and casual behaviors, including beverage choices.

“Even if it's not an interview, you go in there to meet with somebody that's trying to bring you in.”
1:48:39

The Impact of Presentation on Interviews

Discussion on how to leave a lasting impression in job interviews and strategies for effective follow-up.

“And while you're doing that, while you're thinking, Pat, our audience, I'm almost positive, almost 80 % is going to say, you don't bring a sweaty cup.”
1:52:00

Memorable Impressions in Conversations

The importance of leaving a memorable impression in conversations and small gestures.

“And then sometime when a guy comes to an interview and in the conversation, something's brought up, a book is brought up, something's brought up, and you leave.”
1:53:36

Decline in Alcohol Consumption Post-COVID

Discussion on the decline of alcohol consumption and its implications post-pandemic.

“Well, I think since Tom is converting to that, let me go into a story.”
1:54:48

Generational Changes in Drinking Habits

Analysis of how younger generations are drinking less alcohol compared to older generations.

“No, I think it's an expense and hospitality blip.”
1:57:50

Impact of Health Awareness on Alcohol Consumption

Exploring how health awareness and health podcasts influence drinking habits.

“Actual sale consumption data tells a similar story.”
2:01:02

Sugar Content in Alcoholic Beverages

Detailed discussion on the sugar content in various alcoholic drinks and its health implications.

“I get it, but it's more like, hey, can I?”
2:06:00

Discussion on Alcohol and Health Choices

Exploration of personal drink choices and their impact on health.

“total carbs, and usually very low sugar, but it's got the carbs.”
2:10:28

Controversial Lesbian Bar Mask Policy

A discussion about a Massachusetts lesbian bar's mask policy and community reaction.

“One of the funniest stories we've done in a while.”
2:16:04

Hillary Clinton's Drone Comment Controversy

Analysis of Hillary Clinton's suggestion concerning Julian Assange and press freedom.

“This might be the greatest example, Tom.”
2:20:01

Clinton's Controversial Remarks on Assange

Discussing Hillary Clinton's serious comments about Julian Assange and implications on free speech.

“Clinton openly inquired, offering a simple remedy to silence Assange and smother WikiLeaks via planned military drone strike.”
2:21:28

Casual Banter and Meeting Plans

Light-hearted conversation among hosts about their plans and experiences.

“Some of us have to go drink a couple of wine.”
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0:26I've never touched a rake. Tom, have you touched a chainsaw? As a matter of fact, yes. Why are you asking? As a matter of fact, yes or hell. In Montana, I almost killed myself. And we're live, guys. Yeah, I know we are. We had a tornado that came through Dallas. Remember that kind of mid-sized one? Yeah. I went out there with a chainsaw, and I helped Claire Parker. These two trees went down, these two guys. We had these trees on. I just want to know if you've used it, Tom. Yeah, no, definitely. You have used it. Okay, all right. You have to know what you're doing. Have you? I was in the military.

0:57We use everything. So, of course, yes. But we have a special guest here with us. A few months back, we announced a certain contest for people to be able to participate on the podcast. Today, we have Chris Wagner. But Wagner is the way we say it, like, Hannes Wagner. We have Chris Wagner here from Indiana. We've never met until we went to dinner last night, and we found that six weeks ago. This man had his sixth baby. Okay? And he's got six kids in seven years with the same woman, not a traditional Catholic, not a Mormon, just a regular guy that wants to make babies. So, Chris, it's great to have you on the podcast.

1:33Thanks a lot, man. Can't wait. And how did it happen, by the way? You bought merch, and we called you, and we ran a raffle, and you came in. Yeah, you announced the raffle. I thought maybe it's real. Yeah, and then, hey, here we are. Let me ask you, have we ever met? No. Until last night. By the way, sometimes people are like, they picked their favorite. Yeah, right. We've never met. This is it. It just kind of happened, and we're about to have you. I was going to say, honestly, I thought I was selected maybe because of, you know, the family and stuff. You guys, you know, it's all about family on the podcast.

1:59I've got six kids, married. So, I don't know. Oh, you thought I was it because of the thing? I thought maybe it was a random, but I don't know. Okay, all right. It was completely random. By the way, when I tell you complete, they tell me. I don't even know. They just tell me, here's a raffle, here's who was selected. But it's great to have you here. For the people that are watching this, if you want to find a way how to get on the podcast, text the word podcast to 310-340-1132. 1132 again. Text the word podcast to 310-340-1132. And we typically tell our community first when we do crazy things like this.

2:28But with that being said, we've got a lot of weird things going on. My favorite story is the one from Britain. Okay? Yeah. And by the way, as crazy as this story is, watch how many blue states take this idea. Oh, God. Britain announces that they're going to have dedicated IRS agents for every one of their billionaires in Britain. Which, by the way, if you think about it, it's a brilliant idea. You pay the IRS agent how much money? $60 ,000 a year. $60 ,000. $70 ,000 a year. Go get the money. And go get an additional percent, 2%, 3 % on a billionaire,$18 million,$17 million. Dedicated IRS agent for you, Mr.

3:02Vinny Billionaire. Is he at the house? Is he at the house? He's following every move you make. What was that? Every move you make. We'll definitely talk about that story. There's a story circulating. Alina Habba, I got to say this. I'm going to keep it very brief. and Vinny's not happy about it. We were having an extensive conversation about, you know, rumor has it Alina Habba is with somebody. It's a new story. Engaged. Anyways, I don't want to get into it. It's a little emotional. Can we turn off the camera? I don't want people to see Vinny. Don't zoom in on Vinny. Anyways, congratulations. Whatever.

3:38Vinny wasn't happy and it's been three years and three months. He hasn't had an alcohol. It's going to start tonight. So it's going to be a very... Chris, you're coming with me, bro. All right, next door. I'm confused. We haven't seen her in a while. I thought she was working for the British government and just was assigned to the billionaire. No? She actually met the guy? Did you get it? I got it. To all the people with MBAs and PhDs that are laughing, I respect you. That was a joke for people that are part of this community. The passel on the... The rest of the people that have never done this.

4:05If you don't even know what I'm doing, you're like, what is he? Is he drawing something? Don't worry about it. You were going to a next story. Yeah, so next story is Sonny Hostin. thought it was a good idea to talk about what she did as a jury back in the days that a lot of people who have been investigating is saying, I think she's even full of shit, but why would you even tell the story? It's such a dark story. It's like, hey, let's just say that's your mom. Mom, please don't ever share that story. Let's say you're a parent. Honey, why would you ever share this story? You're a friend. Hey, you're on the view.

4:36You kick them under the table. Be quiet. Cut the clip. Too late. People now know crazy. Crazy, right? Crazy. And we have to tell this story because, you know, she just, I don't know, she's a wild one. Next, we had the United, is it the United Nation meeting? And also Xi, we haven't reacted to either one of them. The president of the United States, Trump gets up and he calls out Iran and he says, we can annihilate you. I don't know what the word he uses, but something like that. I think it is annihilate you. She was annihilated. And then the Iranian president comes up and says, look what you did.

5:07And then Bibi gets up and gives a speech and half the room leaves. and then a representative from Israel's going around taking notes and names of every dignitary, the state leaders that left the room. It's like, who are these people? They may have a pager being sent to them or something like that. Check your mail. Don't check your mail. That's the thing. Actually, do not check your mail. Make sure you have three layers of people that are checking your mail. You never know what's going to happen there. And then Xi Jinping comes with his, what is that cartoon character that Winnie the Pooh and the president flies over a, what was it?

5:43The bomber. The bomber. The B2. And it's so flipping loud. And he just, you know, looking at him to see if he reacted. He stayed, Winnie stays like this. And then he goes to places, showing the auto pan, just taps him in the back. You got to see how he's done it. He's a very interesting guy. Andreessen Horowitz launches AI school as college alternative. It'll be interesting to see what that is. And I think we are going in that direction. some of the people that are homeschooling would actually probably entertain it. Boston Globe does their best story in a long time that gets them thousands of new subscribers.

6:16You know what this – you're not going to believe this story, but this is the part about capitalism that you've got to love. So a lesbian communist bar opens up. I'm not kidding with you. Say that again? A lesbian communist bar opens up. Those are my favorite bars. Those are the favorite bars. But these are like legit communist lesbians that can bench two plays. Not the kind of lesbians you like in Miami. So these are different kind of lesbians that are like combine. They can really do 25, 12 times. Hey, don't count me out. Anyways, so the owner, this lady, who is poor lady, is trying to make the money so she can pay the rent and everything, says, listen, can we once a week allow people to come without the mask one day a week so we can make some profit?

6:56Then the lesbian communists that were coming to this bar get pissed off saying you're such a racist. I don't know what they start calling it. How dare you? How dare you? 2026. We still need our masks. This is why no matter what you do, if you ever start a business, you will eventually become a capitalist, and the communism, socialism will come out of you because you'll see exactly how people treat businesses. Best story, Boston Globe. Didn't Boston Globe do that one story about Catholic stuff, the church, and the movie was made? Was that Boston Globe, or who was that? Yeah, they did a few stories.

7:23Let's not talk about that. Spotlight. Spotlight. Was that Boston Globe, or who was that with? I think it was the Boston Globe. I don't know who it was. We'll check it. We'll verify it. Here's another good story for you. You ready? Spotlight. Yeah, but it is the Boston Globe. You're right. All right, so it's been a long time since that story. This one got them subscribers. A grandmother who is worried for her grandson doesn't have any money. Phenomenal future looks bright story that Vincent Oshana found. This wonderful, I think she's in her 80s. 88? 80-something years old. Chris, she decides to learn how to Minecraft, records it on YouTube, doesn't ask anybody for money, but people learn what she's doing it for, raises$50 ,000.

8:08What an awesome story. What a great story. 81 years old, Pat. 81 years old. I'd love to get her information. If somebody knows, I'd love to call her and make it even a little bit better. Tom, this morning's got some bad news for all of you. If you were thinking about buying a house, guess what? Stories came out, and it's real because Tom is not happy about it. is mortgage rates hit the highest levels in 20 months. Even if you've got a credit score of 750 right now, if you wanted to go buy a 30-year loan right now, it's 7.5 % today, 7.5%. This morning, my dad's like, did you hear how many homes are on sale right now?

8:43The record-breaking most ever. I said, what is it, dad? He gives me a number. I Google it. It's 4.3 million homes right now for sale in America. The highest we ever hit was 5 million, and that was in 2008. And of the 4.3 million homes in America per capita, But guess what's number one state with the most homes for sale? The one you're in right now, state of Florida, number one. Carolina was three, something like that. But, Pat, it wouldn't be a good time to buy because, I mean, the rates. The only reason why it would be a good time to buy is because the seller is desperate. And he is going from selling to renting.

9:14Because a seller to go buy another house, it doesn't make any sense right now. You're leaving the 3.8. You're leaving a 4.7. To go to 7.5, your mortgage is going to be$2 ,000 more. It doesn't make mathematical sense. It's only a great time if you're buying from a seller that's about to go to rent. That's the time. Or they're going through a life-changing event, death in a family, kids moved out, divorced, something like that. That's when it makes sense because the motivation needs to be there. Next story. Starbucks is shutting down 250 stores, and Tom thinks that's a great idea with what Brian Nicola is doing.

9:44I kind of want to hear what he has to say about it. Social Security. A Michigan Democrat says people that are getting their benefits 100 % at 67 years old, I want to bring you down to 60 years old. And I'm sure a lot of boomers are going to be celebrating with this. I think it's a horrible idea. And I think we need to go the other way. And I'll tell you why I think we need to go the other way. And you can fight me on it and, you know, call me out and say all the other stuff. But we'll have the friendly conversation here together in a minute. There's one story that's gone viral that Conor brought it up to us.

10:13And I think he was trying to hint why he always brings iced coffee into meetings. And he doesn't want me to get upset at him. because I'm always like, why does Conor always have iced coffee? This is so brilliant, this historian kid. So there's a story that's going viral with New York Times, Chris, that employers are furious with Gen Z showing up to a job interview and putting in iced coffee right there because that's disrespectful. Massive argument that you should never show up with an iced coffee to a job interview. We'll talk about that. We'll talk about that. I mean, listen, Vinny showed up with a shot of tequila.

10:48It was like at least it was a tequila. It was for my toothache. It was for Middle Easterners when you have that. It's a different. So that leads me to the next story. Alcohol consumption is down. Alcohol consumption is down. Last night we were at Casa D 'Angelo enjoying ourselves. I think about all of us were hammered. It was very bad. Chris remembers this. Hammered on a pappuccino. Tom was telling his dirty jokes. If you can get Tom and you find Tom after three drinks, you're going to have the time of your life. Oh, man. But you've got to get him there. He's hard. He's tough. You've got to find a way to be creative about it.

11:20And last but not least, this 83-year-old Christian grandmother in Canada goes in, and I don't know what happens. They euthanize her. She doesn't. By the way, she has, like, mental problems, but she's older and she has cancer, and they basically talked her into, like, no, no, you should just end your life and euthanize her. She showed up sober? And the family was like, yeah, but think about it. If you're a little bit off, and they're like, no, no, no, you should do it, even though she was like, I don't want to do it. She was crying to her family. That's Canada for you. Canada, there you go, buddy.

11:48And by the way, you know what they would have done? You know what we've done in the U.S.? We would have said go play some Minecraft and start a YouTube channel. Exactly. That's a difference. Damn right. It's a real American out there. Yeah, seriously. That's what a real American is. Start a business, Grandma. Do go start a YouTube channel and play Minecraft and raise some money. That's the right way to do it. Heartbreaking story. With that being said, gang, we got some new things to drop to you. For those of you guys that like these new tech pants, which you can wear at work. Our CFO, VP of Finance, wears this.

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16:16The UK tax authority has assigned a personal compliance manager to every billionaire with its reach as it escalates enforcement on offshore structure and wealth planning. Zero hedge verdict. Britain is about to discover the part of the Laffer curve where the billionaire taxpayer simply gets on a plane and goes somewhere else. The policy is test case for wealth taxation in practice. Tighter compliance may extract more from the ultra-bridge, or it may shrink the base it's taxing, and both outcomes will arrive with receipts. By the way, watch how quickly California, Kamala Harris, AOC, Newsom, Mamdani, some of these blue states, watch how quickly they're going to look at this and they're going to say this is a brilliant idea to go after the billionaires.

17:03Tom, how do you process this story yourself? I love it. So, last year there were 156 billionaires in Britain. What was the net gain year over year? One. One. And supposedly... What does that mean, one? Only one new billionaire. They're now 157 billionaires after one year. Supposedly four were created and three departed. Because do you know what the U.K. doesn't have that Canada has? What's that? An angry departure tax. We've talked to people that are members of the boardroom. Britain doesn't have an exit tax? Correct. And in Canada, they call it the angry departure tax. And we've talked to wonderful Canadian people that are members of the boardroom who have talked about the difficulty.

17:45They had to give like 17 % to 20 % of wealth to Canada to leave. In other words, to turn in your passport in Canada, Vinny, and permanently live in Florida. And we've talked to guys at the boardroom doing this. So back there, there is no such thing in the U.K. And would you like to know the number one place that they go, the number one destination, is places like Monaco. They go to Monaco. And then they go to Dubai. And they just recreate residency. But the number one of all, I give you number two and number three, is the UAE specifically. And they just go get themselves a place there and they reestablish residency.

18:29And so what do I think? I think if you wanted to push all these people out where you have no departure tax and you already are not really making more billionaires, Pat, because there's this migration out happening right now. So you're going to take 156 unemployed people, assign them each a billionaire, and then they're going to be unemployed again because these people are going to leave. All they're going to do is reestablish residency in Monaco or Dubai. That's what the data shows. What's the likelihood that Britain's going to have an exit tax? Have they ever talked about it? I don't know. One of the scariest taxes a country could have, by the way.

19:04There's probably 156 people pissed off. How does that work? An exit tax. Once you leave, they can retroactively go after your money for how many years? Yes. Yes. Listen, there's clients we have at the Cigar Lounge, at the boardroom, which, by the way, if you're local and you want to learn more about it, go to the boardroom cigar lounge for Lauderdale. Can you pull up the website, too, please? Guys are sitting there. They have$10 million,$20 million still sitting in Canada because they want to find a different way to move the money out. So you may have to pay a percentage. Can you pull up what the exit tax is in Canada?

19:34But it's like literally in California, they saw what was going on in Canada. They said, we're going to be doing this. And when they started flirting on this in California, that's when I left. Literally, it was one of the main things. You saw it coming. Oh, are you kidding me? That's when you wrote your love letter? For every$1 million you make in California, you pay roughly$133 ,000 that you could keep. $10 million,$1.33. $100 million,$13.33 million. They keep it. Later on, they're sitting there saying, what if we get an exit tax? So the one on Canada is calculated based on deems deposition of your global assets.

20:08the rate you must declare any growth capital gains your assets made while you lived in Canada. Usually 50 % of those capital gains are added to your annual normal income for the fiscal year and then taxed at your standard personal marginal tax. Exception, many major assets are exempt from this exit tax, including your Canadian real estate, RR, SP, TFSA, and standard personal items like your car or clothing. The$25 ,000, if the fair market value of all the properties you own upon leaving exceeds$25 ,000, you are required legally to report them to the CRA using the form or face penalties. So if Britain doesn't have that, it's a very dumb sequencing time.

20:47If you're going to do it, you first put the exit tax, then you assign the IRS agents to each billionaire, right? At least if you're going to think like a liberal socialist, communist, do it better than this. Come on, Britain socialists and communists, do better. Chris, do you have any thoughts on this story? On the Canadian tax? or... On the U.K. and the fact that they're assigning an IRS agent per billionaire to collect more money from them. Obviously, it's a terrible idea. Like Tom said, I mean, they're just going to leave. Why would you stay? Think about it. Why would you? It's almost like they're saying, listen, take your money, take your business, take everything and get out of here.

21:20Why would you do that? I wouldn't. Absolutely not. Do you have any unique thoughts on this? Yeah, I do. Well, you know, we always say all my billionaire friends out there moving to Miami, you should. You know, they say follow the money. The U.K. has literally basically said, let's follow the money. Literally, let's get a enforcement, government enforcement surveillance state like you're in China, and you get your very own personal money bodyguard that comes and basically checks your bank account every single day. So billionaires, there's two different options here. Billionaires are the most taxed, but they're also the most mobile people on earth.

21:55You could just move. And we've seen this before. It's not like you said this, I think, a few months ago. It's not like the old days where, you know, you have a factory and you can tax the factory. Wealth is in stocks. It's in crypto. It's in different assets. You know who got me thinking about that? You can move anywhere. You know who got me thinking about that? Who's that? CZ, the billionaire,$110 billion guy. Look at him. He said he has 5 ,000 employees in 40-plus countries. I said, where's your headquarters? We don't have one. Exactly. So what do you mean you don't have one? He says, we don't have a headquarters.

22:24So where do you put your employees in? Wherever is the lowest regulation, lowest tax. Wherever they want to go. Wherever you want to go. So this is the worst time to tax the wealth idea by these folks. Like literally, it's one of the dumbest ideas to do it in 2026. This would have been a great socialist communist idea to come up with 40 years ago. 30 years ago. Not in 2026. Double dumb. Not only global marketplace. And then can I just add to this, guys? Can you pull up that chart that I sent you? So there's going to be people out there that are going to be like, well, I'm not a billionaire. What would I care?

22:54Well, I would assume that you want to become a millionaire. Why are you working? Why are you saving while you're investing? Look at this chart right here. The millionaire migration. What country have the most millionaires left? It's not even close. It's the UK. You see at the bottom of the list, they're gone. And where are they moving? Like Tom said, they're moving to the UAE, and they're moving to the USA. So whether it's billionaires or millionaires, you can just flee. Wait, this is a very important chart. If you can zoom into the bottom, the net, meaning net loss of millionaires, Is there a way to zoom in or you can't?

23:28It's okay. The lowest one is UK. You don't see it. I need glasses to see what the minus is. What does a minus say? Minus 7.8. Can you get off of it? Yeah, what does it say right there? 16 ,000. 16 ,500 millionaires in 2025. That's just in one year. In 2025. And who gained it? UAE gained 9 ,800. U.S. gained 7 ,500. Italy gained 3 ,600. Switzerland, 3 ,000. Saudi, 2 ,400. Singapore, 1 ,600. Who's losing it? Sweden, Philippines, Turkey, Taiwan, Ireland, Argentina, Pakistan, Egypt, Norway, Mexico, Colombia, Iran, Nigeria, Indonesia, South Africa, Vietnam. Israel is losing millionaires. Uh-oh. They're losing their millionaires.

24:11Germany, Spain, France, Brazil, Russia. Russia's losing its millionaire. Makes sense. South Korea, India, and China. China can't afford to lose some of their millionaires. The biggest thing here is the UK is running laps around the world. It's not like it's that big of a country. And Pat, you know what I'm curious, too? You know that agent that's assigned to you? Yeah. Do you think that there's some incentives to him? Like, hey, listen, the more you find out and the more you get from this billionaire, the bigger the bonus that you're going to get. Are they playing that game with this person? That's a brilliant idea.

24:41That's what a socialist communist is. Oh, my God. Like, hey, listen, get as much as you can from him. Right, Adam, get me another 3 % off of him. I'm going to give you a raise of$50 ,000. That means that agent is going to be in the bushes outside of your house like this. You just described the practice of the U.S. IRS audit. That's it, right, Tom? Keep looking until you find something. There you go. Remember when Biden, I think, hired like 80 ,000 IRS agents? Didn't he do something like that? Is that correct in that number? Yeah, I think so. Some crazy amount of number. No, that's about right, what the number is.

25:12I got a question, though. Do you think that these billionaires, like, do you really think that they're trying to cheat taxes and stuff like that? I just don't believe it. I just don't think it's going to solve anything. You don't think billionaires cheat on taxes? I mean, sure, some do, but I just doubt it. I mean, why? I mean, as far as, like, what are they looking for? I think what they're going to do is, I don't know if the word is cheat. Some people would say they do, and don't get me wrong. There's probably people that cheat on their taxes. But I think what they do is they go and hire and spend more money to bring in the right accountants that knows exactly what write-offs they could get.

25:47And like in that conversation with the in the debate with Hillary and Trump, where he says, you know, he didn't pay zero in taxes and change the rules. He says, you know what? Yeah, I use the same exact tax code that your billionaire donors use. And if you want to like it, you've been there for 36 years. Why don't you do something about it? But you haven't. So don't bullshit me about what, you know, tax exemptions I'm using. You could do something about it. You haven't. So that's actually a very good question you're asking. But let's go to the next one. Next topic I want to go to is the story with Patrick Clancy, which I'm going to first go to Sonny Hostin.

26:21Then I'm going to go to the Patrick Clancy story. They'll just kind of give you an idea. So Sonny Hostin thought it was a good idea to share and brag about a time, what she did to prevent the butcher of Thompson. If you can play, folks, I just want you to think as if this is your friend, your sister, your mom, your co-worker, what would you advise her? Would you say share this story with others or would you say be quiet? At least think about the story. Go for it. The insanity defense has been around in Massachusetts for 182 years, so I think it's well established. And I thought absolutely that she was not criminally responsible by reason of insanity.

27:01And the reason I felt that, I feel so strongly about this holdout juror is because I was a holdout juror in a case in the Daniel Rakowitz case I don't know if people remember it the butcher of Tompkins Square Park it was in 19 the guy who ate the victims yes he was on that jury yes I was and we never heard it was before I went to law school and I when I brought it up at the Hot Topics meeting I don't think everyone believed me and then my producer looked it up and I'm in the New New York Times. And apparently, several jurors questioned afterwards, said one holdout juror was principally responsible...

27:38Asuncion! ...preventing them from returning a guilty verdict. That was me. And it was because I saw clearly that he was psychotic. Of course. He was in a psychosis. He did not mean to kill her. And once he killed her, he panicked. He chopped up her body parts. Yes, boiled her body parts. Tried to commit the perfect crime. And then - And he got this guy off? Yeah, yeah. You got him off. But he fed - that's how much I believe in the insanity defense. And he fed her body parts to the unhoused. Excuse me, can I move over? The unhoused. But all that being said, it was so clear to me in the jury room - and we were sequestered for nine days.

28:20One juror threw a chair at me. They were so angry with me. But one by one, I picked them off and said, what about this? What about that? And we ended up, all 12, unanimously voting that he was not criminally responsible by the reason of insanity. But he is still in a mental institution being treated. I don't even know what to say to this right now, guys. I mean, look, how crazy is that? Our team in the back is losing their minds. So you know who cares? Monica Burling, the girl that was murdered in 1989, What do you think her family feels or thinks about you? Pat, this guy beat her girlfriend to death, chopped her up, boiled her head, boiled the rest of her body parts, got rid of some of the remains in different locations, and then he cooked some of the flesh into a soup and fed it to the homeless in Tompkins Square Park.

29:16It's unbelievable that she's like, yeah, he did all that stuff, but she's proud of this. okay I don't care what you say that type of like person does not need to be alive I'm sorry that's why we have the freaking death penalty and just look at that you guys look I'm not surprised look at what Sonny Hostin has proved to us over the years okay her husband remember he was named in a massive civil insurance lawsuit her son was just like arrested the other what a month ago two months ago for trespassing she she was over there she's always playing the victim she's like slaves and this. Remember on that show, Finding Your Roots?

29:52She learned that her family owned slaves. So it's like that. I'm tired of besides of you, just Sonny Haas and every single time this walking, talking, hypocrite contradicted. That's all she does. She's a walking, talking contradiction of everything. And I don't know if she was a prosecutor, Tom, or defense lawyer. I would hate to have her as my freaking as my lead counsel. It's unbelievable. Unbelievable. I'm shocked. First of all, I am I'm embarrassed for them that on The View, they're talking about this level of tragedy. And if they really care about this guy and his insanity and being behind bars, why aren't they talking about the cost of the taxpayer?

30:33And they're sitting there, you know, are they thinking about the friends or the family that may have known this victim that are watching The View kind of be giddily talking about it? And, oh, my gosh, it was such a crazy day. I was this holdout juror. It is a privilege to be on jury duty in America. It is your obligation. You register to vote. You're registering to be part of a jury, to be part of a group of peers, to let our system do what it's supposed to do. And you don't come back later laughing about the fact that, you know, oh, you know, it was such a crazy day for this guy. I don't find it funny.

31:11I don't find it humorous. And I find it really, really venal that she sits there and speaks like this as if it's some, you know, just, you know, speeding ticket, you know, cop's word against the motorist word. You know, this is a horrifying, horrifying crime that they just they made light of in this here. And I just don't get it. I don't get it. How can your heart be so deep that you can just conduct yourself like this? All this for for for viewable TV? I guess so. And by the way, the story, when you look at this, this was a 1991 newspaper covered this because a lot of people are saying, was she the one that caused it?

31:54and Austin's legal name at the time was Asuncion Cummings. So the New York Times article, contemporary 1991 newspaper coverage, quotes Asuncion Cummings as a juror in the case, so she was a part of it. And then when she says, I was the holdout juror in the Daniel Rockowitz case, that's when things get complicated. Contemporaneous New York Daily News and Associated Press reported on this February of 1991, described the principal holdout as an unemployed man. Juror Valerie Holmes reportedly said that the man enjoyed receiving the$15 a day jury payment and was willing to deliberate, to keep deliberating because he kept making the$15 a day that was being paid at that time.

32:43And then another report, Newsday apparently said that there were two holdout jurors, so she could have been one of the two. I just think it's a weird story to brag about the fact that this guy went out there and did this, and you're bragging that he didn't know what he was doing. He was mentally ill. This is what we're living today. Yeah, that's who she is. Remember the clip that I told you before we came in here? In 2014, I guess she was on Anderson Cooper, and she admits she left her 14-month-old in the car because she was defending another guy, Tom, that left his baby in the car for seven hours, strapped to a car scene, he died.

33:15Could you play this clip? Tragic. What do you make of this? I mean, clearly there seems to be details we don't yet know more about this guy's history, about his attitudes. There's a lot we still don't know. I think that's right. I mean, certainly it's a tragedy, and we can all agree about that. But we don't know some facts. I mean, I want to know, you know, was there a history of abuse? Was there some sort of bitter divorce or custody battle going on? What was his typical schedule? So I think there are just a lot of unanswered questions. I mean, I read something that you wrote, I think, on CNN.com, about that you have done this.

33:52I mean, a lot of parents do this. Yeah, and this story became very personal for me because I did write an opinion piece on CNN. I left my daughter when she was 14 months old in the back of our car. Great. And I was with my husband, and it was a hot July day. And literally, Anderson, my husband left her in the car. I left her in the car. We went to get a shopping cart. We took the shopping cart past the car, went into Home Depot. I went into the garden center and it was only after about five minutes that my husband came to me and said, oh, my God, we left Paloma in the car. And she was fine. And she was fine.

34:27But I will tell you, I'm still ashamed about it. I'm embarrassed. I'm horrified. And I can see how someone could do this. Had you asked me this these questions prior to when when I did this horrible thing. And guess what? And guess what? God forbid your kid died. You should be in jail. You shouldn't have somebody trying to be like, well, where were where was their mind at? Was she worried about something else? No. You did the crime. You have to do the time. So I love this because this just shows a history of this nonsense. And it doesn't surprise me that she'd be lying about being a holdout juror.

35:01She's one of the worst that we have out there. And I love what Tom said about being ashamed, that the view should be ashamed of themselves, Pat, that they have someone like this on the show. Adam. Seriously. Look, I literally never watch the view, so the only time I see clips of the view is when we show them on this show. But I'll tell you this. I love women I'm starting to really worry about women in society today especially in America because we talk about men needing better role models who are the female role models these days like where are they getting their news where are women getting their information and again love you women out there but you're getting your news and your information the most watched shows are The View Rachel Maddow Call Her Daddy you're listening to Candace Owens you're listening to Scooby-Doo murder mysteries and you're watching Dahmer on Netflix and this is where you're getting your information ladies liberal ladies I think women need to take a step back and say wow what am I actually consuming in my life because if every day you're waking up and watching The View or you're watching Candace or you're watching Call Her Daddy tell me how your life is improving from this you're polluting your brain and next thing you know you're defending lindsey clancy publicly basically saying that she's a great person this is the modern woman but i would i would clarify that it's the majority not the majority but a lot of liberal women they have nothing to do they sit home all day and they have to come up with stuff to be like they latch on to all these movements i think you're right i wish it was just liberal well i think it's just women in general well i would say a lot of these liberal women because well who do you think the view if they if the views camera turned around and showed the audience what kind of people you It's mostly liberal women.

36:43It isn't Republican women because they're either at home raising the family or they're at work. That's what the hell is going on. That's the true. Yeah. Crazy story. Chris, do you have any thoughts on this? No, not really. I mean. This guy's got six kids. I mean, it's. You know, what does your wife think about this story? She, well, obviously, totally disagrees with, you know, her being insane. I mean, it's, I mean, obviously she's insane. I mean, she killed three of her kids. I mean, as far as the insanity goes for any case for me, I think it should not even be a part of it, really. I mean, obviously you're crazy.

37:15If you're going to kill somebody, kill kids. I mean, leaving the kid in the car, I mean, I've seen videos of people maybe of, you know, I mean, maybe it could happen, but I just can't see how. I mean, you know, I saw a video one time of a grandmother. She actually was watching one of her. She had two grandkids. She was watching one. He drowned on her watch. He was like two years old. and then a year later the daughter had her watch another one of her kids left her in the car killed two of her grandkids craziest thing ever the older lady, I think she just forgot so what? life has consequences yeah, that's rough have you seen that?

37:57I heard the 911 call that's what I heard and they were like, what? one day, Jennifer calls me and she's crying I said, what's going on, babe? she was at the funeral of a mother who left the kitchen door open and their toddler, whatever, you know, 16 months, 17 months, went out, fell in the pool. She goes out five minutes, dead. Oh, my God. The toddler. At the funeral. They get a divorce, by the way. But Dylan was feeling so bad because I think he had a sister. And every day he would walk her from class to class because he felt so bad for what was going on. And he would pray for them every day.

38:45Wow. Dylan, you're Dylan? So this is like a real story? This is a real story. Oh, my God. Jen calls me. She says, babe, I can't be at this funeral. I hear the mother in the background. This is like eight years ago. This is eight years ago. We were in Dallas, so it's got to be six years ago. I hear the mother in the background, seven years ago, mother in the background screaming of pain because she took the blame. Like, it's my fault. I did this, right? I mean, these are some painful. Like, we have a few friends that moved here, and I said to them, I said, whatever you do, whatever you do, you know, the doors being left open, all that other stuff, whatever you do, teach your young kids how to swim very, very, very early.

39:28There's a program called ISR or whatever it is, and that's what we did. It was they would throw the kid in the pool, and the video got 110 million views, and we started taking every one of the kids. Every one of our kids learned how to swim between 15 to 20 months old. Oh, really? That young? Every one of our kids. Brooklyn's a tat. Every one of our kids. They teach them to turn over? Dude, this is not something that's at all to take lightly. As a parent, you have to take this. I've heard people cry. There's different types of crying. That was the most difficult cry for me to listen to because you felt the guilt that I could have prevented this.

40:07Oh, my God. So when you're telling me that thing, you know, I mean, this is going to, by the way, you guys have the clip with Patrick Clancy who is doing an interview with 60 Minutes. And in the interview, they're asking him, hey, do you have any dreams? Do you have any dreams? And look at the way he's answering this. And if he still sees, you know, the kids and the dreams, just watch the way he's speaking about the story he's telling. Go for it. You dream about them? Yeah. All the time. Tell me a good dream. I remember early on having a dream, maybe six months or a year after, and I'm in the kitchen at the house, and Cora walks in.

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43:39And by the way, you know, this is a guy, his profile, that looks like a guy that doesn't even want to be on camera. Yeah. Don't talk to me. Not in a bad way. Like, did I just want to live my regular life? Word just came out. They announced, obviously, this was many, many years ago when this incident happened. He met a girl a little over a year later. They ended up getting married, and they're expecting a baby. They just announced they're expecting a baby. And he specifically said he looks forward to telling their child about Cora Dawson and Callan, his three children who died in 2023, referring to them as the child's older brothers and sisters.

44:23My goodness. That's the first time I've heard him speak. Have you heard him speak before? Well, in the 60 Minutes interview, there's a lot more stuff to it, what he says, but now he's the villain. They make him the villain, and she's the innocent one that didn't do it. This is a little too much. How much money did they raise for her? I think over a million dollars. I don't know if it was a million, but it was a lot. But what drives me crazy is the people out there that are like, no, he had to have something to do with it because look how he's acting afterwards, okay? And mind you, I don't have any kids.

44:56I don't know. I can't even imagine the loss. That's the number one, the worst emotion that a human being could go through is losing your child. Statistically, that's what they say, right? How is he supposed to act? Is he supposed to be in a basement in the dark and wanting to kill himself? By the way, this happened years ago, right? He has to, the last thing I think this guy wants to do is sit there all day and think about it. Sit in that house, do this. Of course he's going to sell the house. Of course he's going to try to move on because you have to think of other things. But again Adam you talked about those freaking liberal women that are sitting home that are like nope the pink hair pink shirts wearing out there No, she's the victim Not the babies not the babies not the husband that came home screaming Screaming and having to be in the hospital and being there with the eight-month-old that's freaking dying in his freaking arms He's not the victim.

45:46It's her It's Lindsay who's never didn't want to show her face to the camera and then the courtroom when she does you saw I saw evil in her, okay, and I love that you said that bro I love that you said that, Chris, about they're crazy. Of course you're crazy. To make him leave, to kill all of them, and then try to jump out the window and now all these other women are trying to copycat? Give me a freaking break, bro. Find me a river. What's this right here, this Musgrove Family Fund? Is this the GoFundMe for Lindsey Clancy? I think that's it. Where's it at? Apparently, the$1.245 million, and originally the goal was a million, and they just raised it to$3 million as the goal.

46:26I don't know if she's going to raise it. And Patrick Clancy, within a week of the incident that happened in 2023, 15 ,000 donors helped raise a million dollars for Patrick Clancy. So Patrick got it within a week when it happened for both of them raised over a million dollars. It's a you know, and I even think about now the conversation with the new wife. He married a lady who's a doctor, the new wife, Dr. Rachel Dennis. What do you think that conversation sounds like? Oh, my God. Can't even imagine what they're talking about. Imagine the 101 questions to ask before you get engaged. What are you asking her?

47:01Hey, would you do me a favor? And when we have a kid, not murder them? And you know sometimes in life certain events happen that changes. You know, like when you hire somebody that comes and takes advantage of you and it's a bad employee, what do you do? You always add a new question that you ask in interviews. Okay? Or you had a bad employer. Okay? You always ask an additional question when you go into the company, certain things that's important to you, right? Okay. This event is such a big event in this lifetime right now while young single men are going through it. This event added one question every man now asks a girl before they give him the ring.

47:42What do you think about this case? That's all it is. Not even who do you side with. What do you think about the case? What do you think? That's all you got to ask because say you're dating a girl and you ask her the question, she doesn't give you an answer like you, You're going to come. Let's just say we're friends, and you come and say, Pat, hey, this girl I talked to, she said this. What do you think? I'm like, oof, Vinny, you're serious? Yeah. What do you think about it? I don't think I can do it. Have you told her yet? No. I think I'm telling her. I'm breaking it off this week. This became one of those moments where every single man who is single about to propose must ask this question before you get married.

48:14Because imagine you're at work, and your girl said, I think she's innocent. I'm with the kids. And she's with the kids at home. What are you thinking about all day? Yeah. Oh, man. No way. Hey, yeah, I'm going to be taking care of him. And you know what? I'm really having some thoughts. What do you mean you're having some thoughts? This has messed some people up. This has messed some people up. So, anyways, our prayers are with Patrick Clancy.

48:42And, man, this is just a very – yeah, I mean – I've got a question for you, Pat. You say you don't want to be on video. Like, what's the reasoning to even do the interview? I mean, why even go out there? Him? Yeah. I mean, just. You're asking a fair question. I mean, I don't think I would ever want to do that. I mean, maybe to help other people. I think that's what people say. Like, when I think about why people talk, I think what the reporter says is, look, I know this is the last thing you want to do, but you're actually being an example for others that are going through this because they want to hear your side of the story.

49:19Like when we were selling life insurance and we would have death benefits that would happen that somebody's relative would die, they never wanted to go on stage and tell the story. But I would always say, listen, if you don't, you don't have to. I totally get it. If you do, it just shows how powerful it is what we do for families. This is a life-changing industry. Most people don't think about it. I've been in a lot of different rooms where you're delivering checks to families who bought a life insurance policy. And it allows them to mourn. It gives them dignity to not have to make an emotional decision.

49:49And I saw some time where the man was like, no, I don't need it. And then the woman was forced to marry a regular guy and, you know, abusive man that you be with because he was a jerk. But he left him no money and she was the homemaker. So to me, I think that's the story that a reporter would say to get the individual to want to talk. Because you can obviously tell he doesn't want to do this. No, definitely. What fame does he get? Does he go out and say, follow me on Instagram for more? No. No. He's not doing this. I mean, you think they're paying him? I'm just curious. No. Do they pay these guys?

50:16No. No, I think at this point it's just, no, I don't think. By the way, I've heard many of those types of discussions after the fact where they said it's the best thing that's ever happened to me. Thank God my husband or thank God so-and-so left me this life insurance policy. But if I had to put myself in Patrick Clancy's shoes, if you don't tell your story, the world or the people that hate you are going to tell your story. So you have to speak. as much as it's painful and as much as it's something you don't generally want to be doing on camera, you have to tell your side of the story. By the way, same for the juror.

50:49The Michael guy, the black guy, the conservative guy, he's starting to speak now because the world's been telling his story. He goes, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Has he been speaking though? He's been speaking a little bit. It's coming out. I've not seen, I've seen his brother speak on his behalf and other representatives. And to answer you, Chris, maybe because I think I read that he's a Catholic, like he's a Christian, maybe he wants other people to see that even going through this unimaginable tragedy from his wife, that he still hasn't lost faith in God, and that if somebody else is going through it, you're going to go through it.

51:18But you can tell he doesn't want to do it. He's broken. He looks like exactly what happened to him. And he's just maybe just to tell people, like, listen, I went through it, I still haven't lost faith, and I'm still here. And imagine how much he wants to be a father. To go through that, to have your three kids killed, to say, you know what, I want to be a father that bad that I want to try again. This guy's going to throw it down. Okay, let's go to the next story. Let's go to the next story. Next story I want to get to is Tom this morning says 30-year mortgage rates are at 7.5, even if you've got a 750 score.

51:49I said, what did you say, Tom? He says, yes, that's right. 30-year mortgage rates right now are 7.5, even if you've got a 750 credit score in some markets. And so, Tom, I'll read this story and I'll come to you. Mortgage rates hit highest in 20 months, okay, 20 months. The average rate on 30-year fixed right now is 7.03, the highest in 20 months, and up more than a percentage point since the Iran war began late February. Freddie Mac shows data rates last topped 7 % in January 2025. Each percentage point rise at thousands, two-tenths of thousands of dollars in annual borrowing costs depending on the home price, and the climb tracks the surge in oil prices and treasury yields with a key treasury rate hitting its highest level in years and amid inflation fears.

52:34The timing is brutal for the administration. Housing affordability was already the country's sore spot, and the war-driven rate spike is pricing out exactly the first-time homebuyers. Both parties claim to champion, with the midterms weeks away, the 7 % print turns the affordability crisis from a talking point into a monthly payment. Tom? So the 30-year mortgage, whenever you see the 10-year, and you see them talking about the 10-year, and let me look at the gap here. The gap right now on the 10-year Treasury, take two percentage points. So, Vinny, whenever you see a headline that says 10-year Treasury suddenly at five and a quarter, just say to yourself, wow, that means mortgages are at least seven and a quarter.

53:18Oh, damn. You add two points to it. Yep. They're lined up together. And so right now, it's even more difficult. We also mentioned that Florida had the most number of homes for sale. Well, one of the reasons the most number of homes for sale is the people willing to sell them have them on the market, but people can't afford to buy them. And also, Florida also still has a bit of an insurance crisis on homeowners insurance. So, headline, Florida's got more homes for sale than anybody else. Well, you have to go look around Orlando and Lakeland, and they overbuilt that area. and with people conserving on spending and going to Disneyland, Disney World, some of the jobs that were in Orlando are a little bit constrained, and so you don't have as many houses for sale.

54:06But right now, Pat, this is tough times. We have 4.3 million homes right now on the market, okay? 2008, when the crash hit and we all saw the video of what was going on in Riverside County with 64 % of homes were, you know, empty. It was just a very – we saw the movie in – what was the movie called? The Big Short. The Big Short. And of the$4.3 million per capita, the state that has the most homes right now for sale is the state of Florida. I think Carolina's top five, but Florida's one of them. I think Florida has one of the biggest plus minuses on value going up the last five, five and a half years since COVID.

54:43And so – But there's three Floridas. Panhandle, there's for sale. Central Florida, there's a boatload for sale in Orlando. and then you get down to Palm Beach, Broward, and Dade County, known as the Gold Coast, and the for sale rates are consistent where they were before COVID. So it's really a tale of three cities in Florida, but there's a ton for sale. Why do you think Orlando's getting hit the most? Orlando, they reacted and they gave fast permits, and they hyper-reacted to what they believed was going to be job growth up there, and there has not met as much job growth up there. And the people moving to Florida are moving down to Palm Beach, Broward, and South Florida.

55:21The people moving with jobs. The people without jobs tend right now go more to Tampa. Tampa, insurance is crazy because the insurance rates went up after those two hurricanes over the last four years. So Central Florida, they overbuilt. The jobs didn't show up there. So you're getting discounts in Central Florida, a lot for sale if you can afford the 7.5%. In South Florida, prices are down a little bit, but not bad. In Miami right now, there are 12-month supply of condos for sale today, 12.7. If you're going to go down and buy a condo at today's sale rates, there's 12.7 months of supply. For where?

55:59This is Miami? Yep, Dade County condos. Tell me what that means, 12.7 months. It means if you took the number of condos sold this month, it would take 12 months like that to sell everyone that's for sale right now. How do they calculate that? They basically look at the number that are being sold right now per month, and they look at the total that are for sale, and they divide it. So if there's$1 ,200 for sale and you're selling$100 a month, that means it'll take 12 months to sell all that. But this is not a bad time to buy a penthouse in Miami. You could get a good discount on a penthouse in Miami.

56:31As long as you're in one of the better buildings that's been inspected and your HOA isn't way up because they're anticipating maintenance. As long as the balconies are locked and all that can't. I'm saying that the risk is going to be fine. Adam, where are you at with this? Yeah, well, look, buying a house right now isn't that expensive. The money that you need for a mortgage is expensive. There's a difference. So I have a little checklist that I've used before, and I recommend that most, especially young men out there who are considering buying a house, factor this in. Do you want a house or do you need a house?

57:05I speak to a lot of guys out there like, I really want a house. I really want to buy a house. It's like, yeah, I know that you want that, but is that actually something you need? And can you actually even afford that? So what I recommend, and I would highly recommend this, is rent, save that money, save the difference, invest over the next three to five years so your wealth can accumulate, so you can save up for a down payment. And when rates go down or there's a buyer's market at that point, then you can buy. I always just say this, unless you absolutely need to buy the house, just rent, save the difference, and circle back.

57:37That's my advice. Yeah, if you do the math, per percent, Tom, per percent of rates going up on a million dollars is what? Per percent. A thousand dollars, give or take. Something like that. Yeah, a month. So per percent. If you take, give or take, it could be$1 ,200, but everything included. So, you know, if you're looking at a million-dollar home at 3%, you're looking at$3 ,000 a month. 4 % 4K a month. 5 % 5K a month. 6 % 6K a month. 7 % 7K a month. 7.5 % for a million dollars,$7 ,500 a month. That's crazy. Just so you know. We've still got taxes and everything, too, on top of that, right? And maintenance and insurance.

58:16And the$7 ,500 a month is after-tax money, which pre-tax money to have$7 ,500. You've got to divide times 0.3. So if you take$7 ,500 a month right now, divided by 3 is what? 0.3. To make. $500? No, no, no. It's divided. So it ends up becoming. So you're looking at around$10 ,000 a month you need to make. Let's just say 30 % taxes you're paying,$10 ,800 a month you need to make to have the net$7 ,500 to make that mortgage payment. So it is a weird time. I will tell you, if I was a buyer right now, I would use that as leverage, and I would ask better questions from the realtor. So I would ask the realtor, my realtor, I would say, hey, can you ask the sellers how motivated are they?

58:55And are the sellers moving to another house? Are they going to rent? What is the life change? Like when I walked into the house we bought, I know this is going to sound weird. The first thing I did is I went into the master bedroom because they were still living there, and I went to the closets. And one side of the closet, all the, you know, women's shoes were there. The other side of the closet, there was no men's shoes. Oh, gotcha. I'm just saying this was a house I'm looking at in Dallas, and I'm like, hey, if one side of the closet, it's only women's shoes, all the stuff with the guy wasn't there, and it's an open closet, you kind of have an idea.

59:30This is a lot. So that is a, and as much as it's, because we, you know, you can be on both sides as you're going through it. As a seller, you don't want the buyer to know that that's what's going on. So the buyer today has to have a better lens to look at. If you've got a better lens, I actually think there's opportunities today. I actually think there's opportunities today. Because unfortunately, what happens when there's financial stress? People sell. Why do they? What happens when people have financial stress? Life-changing events happen. Typically, what gets affected first? Their marriage.

1:00:02And if the marriage gets affected, what is the wife asking for? Money. And where's most of people's money tied to? In their house. In their house. So guess what he has to do? And if he sells it, guess where he has to move to? He has to move to an apartment. Because 80 % of people, when they're going through this, they don't have the livelihood to go just buy another house. At that time, all they're thinking about is, I just need an apartment. and I want to get this thing over with. That's the mentality. I want to get this thing over with. It's like the scene from Wedding Crashers. You say, we want to throw some miles our way.

1:00:31But unfortunately, when it happens, the person that's going through it, the main thing on their mind, guess what they're saying? The line is, I just want this to be over with. They can just break even a lot of times. That's right. So in those moments, unfortunately, there's a lot of people that are buyers of companies. Guess what kind of companies they buy? Distressed. Distressed companies. That's their specialty. They come in and they build it up. That's a massive business model. It's like I have a buddy of mine who's very big in real estate in Miami, and he goes, I don't buy real estate. I rob real estate.

1:01:05All I do is look for foreclosures. Now, he's a criminal. That's a different story. Not a different person. He's going to go spend some time with. He gets distressed assets, and he sells them. But you actually motivated me. I'm going to go looking in houses as a prospective buyer. I'm going to go into the closet. You will never look at the house the same way you do. And I'm going to go into the guy's closet, and I'm going to go get some new clothes out there. Maybe that's a nice little come up. But you'll see when you go in, unfortunately, the seller's job is not to tell you anything. Yeah. And the buyer's job is to not say any motivation to him that you like him.

1:01:39When you go to the house, and if I take my kids, oh, my God, I love this house. Can we move here? I just told you. Be quiet. We have to buy, buy, buy, buy, buy. You don't take your kids. We went and looked at one of the houses. Pat's like, yo, Chuck. I walked by something, like the theater. It was amazing. And the guy's like, huh? And I'm like this. And I just walked out. I just walked out. You know who else doesn't know how to do that? Malva doesn't know how to do that. No, I'm like, daddy, look at this. Daddy, look at this. And kids don't know how to do it. Daddy, this is great. Is this going to be my room?

1:02:11You could be looking at a high-end house and a nice community. You got the poker face. And then you look in the backyard, and two of your three kids are in the swimming pool fully clothed. Been there. Never happens. They seem to like the backyard, sir. We looked at a house in Stonebrier, which was in Frisco, where a guy named Donnie Nelson was telling me, hey, you may want to come and look at this place. The coach? The son of the coach. And so we go look at this community, and we look at one house that had a lazy liver in the backyard. A lazy liver? Lazy river. Oh, yeah. So I'm sitting there. I like lazy livers as well.

1:02:46But so I go, I'm Middle Eastern, but so we go there and I tell Tico and Dylan in the car, hey, listen to me, guys. I'm telling you right now, you cannot jump. This house has a lazy river. I want to be able to trust that I'm bringing you here. You guys can't jump in. Know that. Why would we jump in? I said, great. Because if you jump in, there's pow pow. I'm not going to jump in. And we know we don't want no pow pow. So we go and they see the lazy river and all you see is their eyes get this big. And they're looking at me. I'm like, Dilly, Tico, I told you. And you know who starts it? You know who gets the other one to do it?

1:03:20I bet you can't guess which one gets the other one to do it. Tico told you. Tico gets the other one. So here's what happened. So then I'm like, guys, just go over there. Just shoot a basketball. Go over there. You know, look at some of those streets. You know who? So we go inside the house. And I'm on the second floor, master bedroom. They're showing me the, what do you call it, the balcony. I'm outside. All I see is Tico and Dylan and the lazy river going around. And we didn't bring towels. Oh, my God. Are you going to go into the escalate? I'm like, these freaking kids. I'm like, what are you doing, Dad?

1:03:49This is great. This is awesome. I'm like, these kids, man. So I don't know where they get it from, but they're a little rebellious. All right, let's go to the next story. Can't even imagine where they get that from. I mean, you know, it is what it is. So let's go to the next story. Next story I want to get to is let's actually go ahead at the, what do you call it, the U.N. stories. And I want to get into this Boston Globe. But before we do so, for those of you that love the color chocolate as much as I do, which I love. If you want to wear a shoe that no matter where you go gets incredible attention, this is the FLB shoe.

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1:08:16Maybe one of the greatest in the Middle East or even the world. Or do I annihilate the Islamic Republic and do it quickly, never giving them a chance to kill and destroy people and countries again? Do I drive them into hell with no chance of survival? Camera guy needs to get a promotion. Greatness or generations. But I believe we'll make a deal right after the election because it doesn't make sense for them not to. They're waiting to see how I do in the midterm election. What they don't realize is that I'm not running. I did that already and won in a landslide. We won in a giant landslide. And I'll be here for two and a half years.

1:09:04The Republican Party is running, and I'll be helping them. But I am not running. I gave absolutely no credence and will not give credence to the election when it comes to Iran, it doesn't even enter my mind. The only thing that does is that Iran will never have a nuclear weapon. So this is the speech he's giving. The cowards and traitors. Look at the clapping, by the way. So they're agreeing with what he has to say. The cowards and traitors. Then Pazeshkin comes up and he's giving the speech. And here's what Pazeshkin has to say. I don't know if you have the Pazeshkin clip or not when he hits the state.

1:09:43This is what he has to say. Go for it. To present to you, yesterday the United States President described us as terrorists. We have been the victims of terrorism.

1:09:59I come from an Iran in which our esteemed supreme leader was assassinated without any legal framework or reason. And I come from an Iran where, in truth, they bombed a school. You see these children?

1:10:29These children perished under bombs. With weapons used by the United States and Israel. They were innocent. Had committed no crimes.

1:10:47Lomert, one of the small... Okay, so that's the speech that he gives. He conveniently left out the fact that his regime killed tens of thousands of their own people. Let's just brush that aside and talk about what Trump did. Go ahead. He's the terrorist. The reality of it is the allies that they have. Marco Rubio, I sent a clip yesterday about what Marco Rubio said. And Besson, there's two clips. I don't know if we have it or not. I don't know if you guys got it or not. I don't bring it up this morning. So if you got it, you pull it up. Great. If you don't, I get it as well. Where he says, look, here's what's going on.

1:11:20And this is why I like Marco Rubio. He gives a very complicated story in a way that you need to – it's chewable, but it's tough to – matter of fact, I want you to watch this one here. Besant, watch this one, what Besant says. Do you have the Besant one? This is the Besant one if you have that. Play this one first. Okay, Besson explains what they're doing to Iran. A lot of people are not getting on the back end how challenging it is. And I'm going to come to you guys for you guys to share your thoughts, and I'm going to go to the next clip on what happened to the UN, because the BB one is very interesting.

1:11:55But if you can pull up this clip, this is Besson, on the types of pain they're bringing to Iran right now. Okay, if you have it, pull it up. I just send it to you guys. It should be fairly easy. There you go. Watch this. Watch what he says here. Go ahead. Can you start from the beginning and turn on the audio so we can listen to? because, guys, you're on it with the mouse. If you can just...

1:12:19Okay, go back, go for it. Just so you know, we know where in the British Virgin Islands your accounts are at these trust companies. We know the$100 million houses you have around the world, and we are going to freeze those. We are going to, our partners, we are going to close all of that down. So we are going to go after the regime's illegitimate assets that they have stolen from the Iranian people, and those can go back to the Iranian people, or they can go to the victims of terror, like the families of the soldiers who are on the USS Cole or in the Lebanese barracks. But we will stop this regime's ability to have a nuclear weapon, to have their current highly enriched uranium, to project terrorist power through their proxy networks, and to terrorize the Gulf.

1:13:16So after 47 years, it is over. By the way, you can pause right there. There is two people in the administration that you know when they talk, they don't play games. One is Besant. He will punch you, even if you're the richest man in the world. He doesn't hold back. Allegedly, he will. Yeah, he will. I'm just saying. And number two is Marco Rubio. They're literal people. They're not thinking about campaign and presidential 2028 and let me go lose some weight and all this. I'm not saying anybody else. I'm just saying they're thinking about what in general. Like, it's not bad to lose. I've lost 30 pounds this year.

1:13:51You look great. I've lost. I've literally lost. I won from 259 to 229. He's a biker. Go ahead. And every morning, you want to find me, I'm biking. Yeah. You know, so when they're talking about this and the president's giving that message, Tom, to Iran, Pazeshkan sitting there, one, how close you think it is? And do you think anybody's listening to Pazeshkan and saying, oh, poor guy, look what happened to him? Do you think the world is looking at Pazeshkan and sympathizing with what happened to their people? The world does not, but you have people like Christine Lagarde in the EU, which oddly, strangely, you know, anti-capitalist and also, you know, somehow finds victimhood in those that would, you know, commit violence.

1:14:37So I think there's a few. But what the world heard, and Trump was very careful in speech, he wanted to make sure that they heard, this is going to happen after the election because these guys are trying to wait me out. I don't care. We'll get the deal done and you guys are going to wait until after the election. That's them. So he's sort of putting the world on notice saying, hey, we would deal with these guys, but they won't deal. So, number one. And number two, when Peskin comes up there, it's like, wait a minute. Okay, a school was bombed, and it looks like these innocent kids died. That's a tragedy.

1:15:18But that's a tragedy of war. And it's a tragedy of war that started not in February with the first bombs, but that started with these proxy networks and the undermining and the creating of war by Iran. So it may have been the latest round that started in February. But you know what? I'll tell you, this started before that. And I think that when he stands there, people say that is a tragedy of war that shouldn't have happened. That's terrible on one hand. On the other hand, you sit there and say this thing didn't start in February, dude. You guys started it way back, and you've been doing it for 47 years.

1:15:59Don't act innocent. Don't act innocent what you're doing. You killed your own people. So think about it. If you want to make the claim that America killed other people, which, by the way, what they did is that property that they were in allegedly was a former military property. So on the maps when they were given the intel, it wasn't updated, so they used a military property to make it a school, and they hid it and used it. So some people are even saying they knew this could happen, but they needed a story to get the world to sympathize with them. They've hidden behind their own citizens for decades.

1:16:27Yeah, it's a tragic, tragic story, but that's the enemy doing it. Exactly. When you kill your own people, then what is that? Adam, your thoughts on the speech. By the way, on that point, and you turn off the Internet so your own people can't communicate to the media and the press. You're this noble community. Correct. You shut the Internet off and start slaughtering the dissidents. Adam. Look, I think the overarching story is that the U.N. has become a complete joke. You know, anyone that's been following the U.N. appreciates at least what the U.N. was supposed to be doing. You know, I think it was formed in 1945, right, during the end of the World War II.

1:17:08And it was to, number one, prevent another world war from happening, but also to just bring in people to talk around a big conference table to avoid any issues. Now, in 2026, you have dictators, autocrats, supreme leaders, thugs coming in, standing at the podium and lecturing democracies about how they should be operating. So the UN has completely lost its way. It's become a banana republic at this point where you have actual thugs who have never faced zero election, basically control their people. There's no freedom of press. There's no freedom of human rights. And they come in and say, this is how you need to act, everybody.

1:17:50This is how you need to operate, everybody. It's like, didn't you just kill your own people, buddy? Haven't you been jailing any journalist in your country that is a dissident? hey Putin, you know, somehow people are conveniently thrown out windows just magically, but you want to lecture democracies and free people how to operate. You know, one of the things that I've learned since being here, I never really understood this term, this globalist term. Oh, he's a globalist. He's a globalist. At this point, I don't want America abiding by anybody's rules other than America. So another thing that I want to bring out, Trump basically said a couple of major things.

1:18:34He said, as far as Iran, he said the following, I have no interest in leaving the dangers that grow from Iran to grow and fester for another day. I do not believe in letting problems fester. They only become harder to solve. So while others have talked, I have acted. That's Trump's words. So basically saying, I'm not going to wait for the next administration to deal with Iran. I'm going to go ahead and take the lead here. He said, I believe in no global government at all. I think the ICC, the International Criminal Court, is a rogue institution. He called them out in the biggest way. And it should be, everyone should resign.

1:19:10Basically, he came up there and gave a speech and said, you suck, you suck, you suck. You're cool. Let's go. Let's get out of here. And then you have Pazeshkin come up there and basically try to flip the entire narrative and pretend that he's the good guy. You left out skimming foreign aid dollars that these thugs also do. And the last thing I'll say about Iran, and I'll just say this, I've never met or seen another country, organization, that pretends to almost negotiate and maybe we'll do a meeting and eventually maybe we'll have a discussion. There's plenty of them out there. There's plenty of them out there.

1:19:47There's plenty of them out there. How do you mean? You've never met another country that says they want to negotiate but they don't get anything done? It's all talk? This is the number. This is the leader. No, there is plenty of countries that do that. That's the part of the game. They just wait to – if I'm the enemy, guess what I say? These are Americans. You've got four more years. Stop. You're not that tough. You've got two more. I'll outlive you. You're going to be gone. I've got control. You have what I don't have. I've got 20 years to go make change. You've only got four years. And if you're lucky, you've got two years because your midterms – you don't have as long as – you've got American system.

1:20:18You don't have as long as you think you have to make change as a president. I fully agree with you. The only thing that I'll say is the difference is that everyone else acts in their own rational best interest, whether it's China, whether it's Russia. That part I agree. These people are such ideologues that there's no negotiating. They're waiting for the world to end for their 12th Shia imam to show up. And listen, I'm anti-war. I hate war. I was in the United States Air Force. 9-11 happened. They lied to us. Weapons of mass destruction. People went over there. My brother was deployed. I hate it, and I wish to God that we live in a perfect world where none of the war happens.

1:20:56But guess what? It sucks, and it does happen. And what drives me crazy, Pat, is when it comes to Iran, guys, a lot of people just, whatever your algorithm is and you get upset about, you haven't lived it, okay? People, they've never been there. They don't even know people that are there, let alone find it on a map. You haven't experienced it. We're sitting in a room with a guy who's lived it as a child and saw people die and saw the regime, saw the IRGC, and had to flee with his freaking father and go to a freaking refugee camp with his family. You guys haven't lived it. My parents left, okay?

1:21:33We've understood it. We've experienced it. So the people that haven't, give me a break. And you guys, when you talk about killing your own people, it didn't just start there. protesters, wrestlers, professional wrestlers that open their mouth, they execute them. Do you understand what I'm talking about? Like we're over here talking about, you know, Patrick Clancy, Lindsay Clancy's wife and how she should die and all that stuff. These people are just opening their mouths and gay people out there that are supporting all these Islamic, Islam regimes. Take your ass there and see what happens to you.

1:22:00They will kill your ass. Okay. And again, anti-war, but say what you want. There's footage of Donald Trump talking trash about China and Iran way before he tried to run for president. And I was getting a haircut the other day, Ben. I'm talking to my barber, Josh. And he's like, you know what, Vinny? I don't give a day. Brother, dude from New York, from Brooklyn. He's like, you know what? Trump is the only one. Brother, there's people that were sitting ready to get a haircut talking, like going against us. And he was like, Trump is the only one that actually did something. everybody's talking the trash and kicking the can down the road these people say guys death to america so imagine we're sitting here right now chris towns over people miles away their attitude is death to you die i hope all your women children everybody dies how long do you let that slide how because it's not just you know bs you know table talk ah they're just talking stuff in a little water cooler talk they want us dead guys you understand that they want you dead and it sucks and I wish it didn't happen, but in a world where people want you dead, okay, and evil is out there, you've got to fight fire with fire.

1:23:08I'm sorry. It's the truth, Pat. Don't apologize, Vinny. Well, I'm just saying. I wish it was all loves and they want to kill us. You understand what I'm saying? Death to America, what does that mean to you, Pat? By the way, let me tell you, the best breakdown I heard of this was from John Morgan, who said it on the podcast a few months back. He's not a Trump guy. he's a liberal. He's best friends with Bill Clinton. This is not a guy that's a Trump guy. He says for a guy like him, Morgan's saying this, I'm paraphrasing what he said, to decide to, this is not the most popular thing to do, but to do it because he's making a decision long term to protect America, you got to applaud him for it.

1:23:49Look what he's done. Do you have the Marco Rubio clip, by the way? Do you have that Marco Rubio clip if you want to play that real quick? This is a guy that, go for it. I think the Iranians are under this illusion that Democrats are going to win in November and the president will no longer be able to do things against them. I just don't think they understand our system very well. Other countries do, but they don't seem to. In our system of government, obviously Congress, the legislative branch, is a very important branch of government. I served in it for 14 years, so I understand its powers, but I also understand its limitations.

1:24:19When it comes to the national security of our country, when it comes to the imposition of both sanctions and the use of military force, the president has extraordinary powers. Every president does. He's the commander-in-chief, both constitutional and otherwise, to be able to carry out those functions. So I think that the Iranians are fundamentally misreading our political system. And I think the president made it very clear yesterday. For him, the Iranian issue is not a political issue. It is the fact that for generations now, for almost 50 years, every American president, and frankly every country in the world for the most part agrees that Iran can never have a nuclear weapon.

1:24:52But ultimately, no one ever does anything about it. and he's going to do something about it, and he's doing something about it, and it comes at a price and at a cost, there's no doubt about it, but the cost of not doing something about it is substantially higher, especially for future generations. Just listen to the way how he landed that message. Listen to the way how he landed that message. That's Marco Rubio, okay? And Marco, whatever you do, 2028, you've got to be in the arena. That's all I'm saying to you. You've got to be in the arena, okay? You've got to be in the arena. And he's right.

1:25:24By the way, this Democratic Party thing that he's talking about, Pat, I want people to understand, this DSA movement, all these Islamists that are running for freaking Congress and running, like, I don't know if you guys saw him. We don't have to see it because the clip is long. There's a young Iranian-American in Michigan. He stands up, and he's saying to Abdul Syed's face, he's like, we're dying. They were killing us. And, you know, he wouldn't condemn the IRGC. And he's like, listen, I have to be careful. Careful of what? You think, well, they're going to come after you? He wouldn't condemn them.

1:25:54It's almost like Abdul El-Sayed is a fan of the Ayatollah. Weird. It's against America. And I'm telling you. Shout out to you guys in Michigan voting for him. And those guys, those are the guys. He's talking about the Democratic Party. They're pro-them. They're pro-IRGC. I'm telling you. They're pro-they-them. They-them. She-them. You've got to study the history of Ford being the reason why the first mosque was built in America. Ford, the car company. the founder of Ford. So can you explain that? Yeah. I just told my grandpa this morning about that. We had that last time. So here's what happened.

1:26:31So if you go back, Ford hated, he had issues with Jews. And people, when they sit there and say, why did he have issues with Jews? First of all, Dodge Brothers. This is Dodge's first logo. Are you serious? You guys ought to know this. So this is Dodge's first logo. I mean, do you see how obvious it is? How many anti-Semites are in their car right now? What? I'm a Dodge Dodge, brother? Pull over. The Dodge brothers are direct competitors, and he is furious with them. Then the union is a problem, and so he's not happy with the union, what's going on. So he starts realizing he can recruit people from Yemen, from Lebanon, and from Syria, and the people that came from there, they did not want to be part of union.

1:27:17So he was saving money on union by bringing people from Yemen, Syria, and Lebanon. Eventually, I think in 1912 or something like that, he brings the first imam. When he brings him to Michigan, thinking, these are great workers, man. I'm not paying any union. They're great. All he's thinking about is the fact that he's not going to pay any union. You know, they're not going to get bigger. Well, the first imam comes, and they build the first, I think, mosque in Michigan. It's in Highland, if I'm not mistaken. And so Henry Ford is the reason why Michigan became what it became today. And from there on, because remember, as Armenians, we would move where?

1:27:54To Glendale, California. Damn right. Why? Because many, many years ago, a very influential Armenian moved to Glendale, and everybody would say, where did John go? He went to Glendale. Menkele ton Glendale. Menkele ton Glendale. So then Armenians, if you go, Assyrians, Turlock, Chicago. Yes. Turlock. If you look at Jews, if you look at Italians. New York. So you go because an influential. So thank you, Henry Ford, for doing what you did to the state of Michigan. He caused this. And his charity that he put money into to help a bunch of people out, eventually he gave the board up to others. The board flipped against him.

1:28:28And guess what things the board of Ford gives money to right now, nowadays? If you went and looked at what things they give money to right now, you wouldn't believe it. So everything he did was positive. He was thinking it was positive. Am I doing it wrong? Right there, right there. Got it. There you go. You almost got that. It's built Ford tough. But I have a Ford, Pat. So because of the – I have a Ford too. I love Ford. I love a Ford. I love a Ford too. He has a tattoo on it. But he actually does. Chris actually does have a tattoo. Yesterday at dinner, we're sitting there. We're like, what is this guy doing?

1:28:57He takes his entire shirt off. Girls are going crazy. At Casa D 'Angelo. We're like, you're a fan. Put your shirt on. You have to shut down the restaurant. Adam couldn't see the Ford tattoo, but it is what it is. All right, let's go to the next story. Next story I'm going to get into is B.B. gets up, gives a message. Half the room walks out. That's not the main highlight of the story, okay? You have this clip. After B.B. walks out, after B.B. gives a speech and just tries to call everybody out, okay? This is what one of his workers did. No, you have to show the walkout first. The right sequence, guys.

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1:32:33What percentage would you say that is? 70 %? 70 to 75.

1:32:40Okay. And the comedian is just bombing and everybody's, no pun intended, but you know what I mean? So everybody's walking out. Now, watch this. Now watch what one of his representatives does. That's the one I'm really interested in. This is scary. No, this is scary. Look at this. Like the people that are in trouble. Who's present? Get their names. Who walked out? You're getting a pager. You're going to get a pager. You've got a tunnel under your house. Good. What do you think he's actually doing? Do you actually think he's getting the name of the people that walked out? He wants to document every single person that got out and walked out because you know what?

1:33:18What if one of them wants a favor or they need something or whatever? They're going to say, oh, really? You walked out during the speech of the prime minister. That's crazy. Thoughts on this? Well, I think every leader in the free world, and those that are in the not-so-free world especially, have a naughty and nice list. They know who's with them. They know who's not with them. And they know who's with them and not with them publicly and privately. And I think this is probably nothing more than the roll call. and at some point in time, you know, you look where they're positioned, you look where they are, and you forget about the technology that is there.

1:33:59Startup Nation, a great book about the companies that are in Israel. People are going to need something. It's not universal. And in the Middle East, when they need things to calm down, they come to Israel and they work with them. So I think, you know, Israel's no saint. But I think that's a naughty and nice list, and I think they're keeping score. And there will be days when people will come and need to work with Israel on something to cooperate on broader initiatives. They'll remember. And I think they're going to remind them. Let me give you the names of the countries. So 77 delegations, Waktad.

1:34:35They said 77 countries, but it's delegations. So it could be a combination. So in a Middle East region, it was Palestine, Turkey, Iran, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Oman, Kuwait, Yemen, Lebanon, Syria, Algeria, Tunisia, Libya, Egypt, Jordan, Sudan, Somalia, Djibouti, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Bangladesh, Indonesia, Malaysia, Maldives, Brunei, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan. Those guys walked out. Now, delegations are from Europe, Spain, Ireland, Slovenia, Bosnia, all walked out. But those countries, all the other guys stayed in Latin America, Caribbean, Brazil, because remember, that's Lula, Chile, Colombia, Peru, Venezuela, Bolivia, Nicaragua, Panama, Guyana, Belize, Cuba, Bahamas, Barbados.

1:35:21Those guys walked out. Africa, South Africa, Angola, Chad, Central African Republic, Republic of Congo, and a few others. They walked out. Asia, North Korea walked out. Wow, very surprising. Myanmar, Tonga. And in a couple of political significant details, Pakistan reportedly walked out but then listened from the sidelines. Bahrain and UAE remained in the chamber despite being Arab states with diplomatic relations with Israel. China also reportedly stayed. The Palestinian mission actively encouraged the coordinator to walk out, asked delegations to enter the chamber, then leave collectively when Netanyahu was announced.

1:35:59So this was kind of planned. Adam, your thoughts. Well, this is the U.N. for you. And I'm just going to be very direct. This is why the UN is a sham organization. So, you know, in the UN, it's called the UNGA, the United Nations General Assembly. I'm going to read some stats for you, and I'm going to be completely unbiased. You let me know what you think is going on here. So there's called condemnations, where a country can basically say, oh, that country is doing bad things, that country is doing bad things, right? So here's the list right now. Israel is leading the world in UN condemnations.

1:36:41They have 188. This is in the last 10 years, from 2015 to 2025. 188. So if you're playing a basketball game, let's just go, you know, we like playing basketball here. How many fouls you get? Israel has 188 condemnations. Second on that list is Russia with 35. Okay, so that is what, 5x? So Israel is 5x worse than Russia. Here's where it gets interesting. United States has 13. Okay, so way low. Syria, that almost a million people died in a civil war, 12. Iran, condemnations that killed allegedly 40 ,000 to 50 ,000 of their own people. 11 condemnations north korea arguably the worst country to live in in the world 11 condemnations afghanistan one how many think china condemnations have had at the u.n general assembly zero zero weird okay turkey zero cuba zero haiti zero so at some point you need to ask yourself a question is Israel literally the worst country in the world the only democracy in the Middle East or maybe the game is a little rigged so if it's a basketball game and it's like so you didn't call any fouls on Draymond Green on Bill Lambert on Dennis Rodman none of them people who are doing obviously the worst things but LeBron James got 188 different fouls something may be going on here.

1:38:18So to me, this is why the United Nations is a complete sham. Because if it was like, look, Iran has some, Russia has some, Cuba has some, Afghanistan has some, Israel has some, okay, cool, it's equitable. When the world collectively doesn't have as many condemnations as Israel have, that's pretty much evidence that it's a complete sham. What I think is funny, you look at this map, and there's a few things I noticed. You draw a line. Everything below, everything above the line, like if you drew a line across the red ones, just diagonal line across there, everything above the line knows how to run a business, but they can't dance.

1:38:55Everything below the line goes the other way, and everything below the line in red is consuming dollars from all the ones that didn't walk out. I'm looking at down here and I'm looking at foreign aid, except the Saudis and certain things over there. Everybody that walked out is like consuming foreign aid from the ones that stayed. So it's like the ones that are walking out, it's like leave already. We're sending you dollars. We're giving you all this stuff. It's just shocking to me when I look at it. I think Bibi in his speech also brought up Sam Piker in his speech. Did he really? I know. He mentioned it.

1:39:32He went after Mondani, New York. Anti-Semite. How much of this do you think though? Because Bibi on and off has been Prime Minister three times. he's been in there for 19 years like at some point it's like bro you gotta move on because you're you're the face of everything ups downs left right you know gaza you know october 7th you're the guy i think at some point even president trump after two terms you know you're getting to the point where people are like enough and it's not just the world it's israelis are over this guy i think uh gadi eisenkhan is actually ahead right now because october is their election and And he's kind of BB's in second right now.

1:40:11And maybe maybe they need a different person. We're going to see. I mean, I always compare BB to Trump, but double it because Trump has won two, possibly three elections. We'll see. But if the American people continue to vote for Trump year after year after year, so be it. So this is probably going to be the most contested election for BB. We'll see. The guy that is running against him is not like he's some, you know, innocent peace dove guy. He's from the IDF. The biggest difference that I just want to say is this. Countries have elections and their democracies, and the rest of these countries have autocrats, dictators, and kings telling people what to do.

1:40:53Let me read this story to you. This may be the hottest story right now online, and it's a very, very heated debate. And you know what it's about? Bringing iced coffee to your interview that New York Times had to write about it, and it's gone viral bonkers. People are arguing over it. I cannot believe if you bring this to a job interview, you are irresponsible. I'm trying to find this story. Is it on the addendum or is it on the would you bring iced coffee to a job interview? The internet is divided. Some Gen Z job seekers say it's not a big deal. Others find it as a big deal. I put page eight.

1:41:28Do you know what page it's on? Can you guys see what page it's on? Iced coffee? Is it on addendum? Okay, there it is. I found it. All right, here we go. Let me read it to you. So, Caitlin, I won't read her last name, president of a Florida recruitment agency, posted what she thought was an innocuous TikTok tip. Gen Z candidates shouldn't bring iced coffee to job interviews because it can signal the interview is just a stop on your list of errands of the day. Over two days, the videos grew 20 different legs and run off into so many different reactions. She said angry responses, strong agreements, parodies.

1:42:03Critics also called iced coffee. Is this the video, by the way, of what she said? Okay, watch this video, what she said, if that's the video. The Times treats the debate as a generational workplace, and Rorschach tests whether professionalism is a set of universal signals or an outdated dress code enforced by people who already have jobs. That's a disposable cup. Can cleave the Internet says less about coffee than about the little. The generations agree on what's shown up, prepared, even looks like. Tom, do you really care if somebody comes to a job interview with an iced coffee? No, I care if you show up prepared, polite, professional, presentable, ready to answer questions.

1:42:44Took the time to learn more about the company when you walked in. Even made a comment to me. I've looked you up, sir. This is your background. Why did you come to this company? Curiosity. I love all of that. Whether you have a Starbucks cup or you have a Yeti. Now, I think you'd be ridiculous. Don't bring in a great big jug that tells everybody you're on one of those gallon a day diets. But if you walk in with a beverage and you sit there quietly, I have no problem with that. I'm probably going to offer you, would you like some water or a cup of coffee before we start? Just to be polite. That's what I'm looking for.

1:43:18I'm not psychoanalyzing your beverage unless it's over the top. That's what I think. Who has an opposite position for Tom's? Go ahead. And by the way, he's hired tens of thousands more people than me. I just, for me, thank you, sir. Thank you. You're done. I just think like, and this is so something, not a hill I'm going to die on. But if you're showing up for a job interview and you're, hey, what's going on? Like, well, put the coffee down. Get prepared. A reasonable job opportunity might say, can I get you a water? Can I get you anything? Showing up, whether it's an iced coffee, a hot coffee, a tea, a latte, whatever.

1:43:55It's like, how casual are you at this job interview? And then, you know, you tell a story about a guy doing a job interview. He's sitting like he's just kind of relaxed because he was confident. But if you're just like a rookie showing up like that, I don't get it. I'm with Adam. But I do want to give you a shout out because not only one, but two words you pronounce correctly. Innocuous? Wow. And then you hit Rorschach? I'm impressed. Is that where your brain is? That's where I went. Sometimes he doesn't get desalination. That's a perfect transition. This segment's brought to you by Hooked on Phonics.

1:44:33I'm working on my English. I gotta give you credit. I'm honestly with Adam. When I go to anything where I'm like... Even if it's not an interview, you go in there to meet with somebody that's trying to bring you in. It's professional. It's really a big old wet. Because those drinks are wet. There's stuff leaking off of it. It's sweating the whole time. Tom, come in with a burrito from Chipotle. You're saying don't do it. I'm talking about a basic beverage. Basic beverage. Wow. Don't bring your thermos to work. But they're saying ice. They're saying an ice coffee. For everybody out there that knows, you know what that's saying?

1:45:07Is it really, though? To me, it's a pat. Ice coffees are wet, and they're dripping in your leaving water. By the way, how do you feel about it if you're watching this? Yeah, ice coffee. Can you run a poll with ice coffee? It's just two options. Like, maybe put don't bring it. Don't bring it. It's okay. And then put, I don't give a shit. Like, just run the poll with those three different options. Pat, what if I want? I can't believe Tom is the one that's basically cool with it. You know what? Why don't you go into the list I gave? Hey, you know what makes it? Professional, polite, prepared, curious, engaged.

1:45:38Yeah, but you know what? But, Tom, you're a neat freak like me. You know how much water is going to be on your desk? Because freaking Freddy brought in a desk. Why not bring some chips and salsa and just start sitting there going, hey, listen, I didn't eat lunch. I know I'm very smart, but you mind if I use a napkin? I think you should just go in there. Now, you said I studied your favorite salsa, and I have it here. That's a different story. Can we eat this salsa or this honey, this manuka honey that you have? It's expensive honey. Right? It's a good honey. What are your thoughts? Tom, show up.

1:46:05Tom got me hooked on it. Manuka. You have to realize, like, we get hit up by sponsors that are like, hey, we'd like to make a custom coffee, you know, product for PBD Podcasts. I said, dude, you must not really know, you know, that I haven't had coffee since I was 25 years old. So yesterday I had Big Mac for the first time in 29 years. Can you guys understand that? September of 2020. But to be fair, tell them the context of it. I finished boot camp in AIT, and then after I finished boot camp in AIT, I haven't had any fast food, any soda, any anything. I went and ate Big Mac. I threw up. I'm like, I can't eat this stuff.

1:46:41Last time I had Big Mac was September of 1997, which I finished AIT and I showed up to Fort Campbell, Kentucky. One of our clients, Mark Parrish, who runs a 22 McDonald's. Mark. He's been consulting with us for quite some time. He comes in and he says, Pat, I'm going to be the first that's going to bring you a Big Mac. And I joked with him. He wasn't joking. He brought me a Big Mac yesterday. Play the clip here. Go for it. That makes me want one. September of 1997 when I graduated AIT. Skinny you look. And the only reason I'm doing this is a good man, Mark. He owns 22 McDonald's franchises. He's closed me on this.

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1:49:09Obviously. Yeah, for sure. My body doesn't know how to take it. But what story are we on right now? We're on the iced coffee story. And while you're doing that, while you're thinking, Pat, our audience, I'm almost positive, almost 80 % is going to say, you don't bring a sweaty cup. You know what that says to me as a person? You don't really, who gives a damn? It's a wetty, sweaty, you're going to leave your park. It actually would bother me if they came in there like shaking it, making noises, like come in there, do your interview, You get the hell out of there. I wouldn't like it. There's a lot of things you get upset about.

1:49:41That's the noise that it's going to make. Yeah. I don't know. Where you at, Pat? What are you going to say? So you have to know. What I'm trying to say is if you were in my sales office, and these guys know, the OG ones, I didn't allow coffee in my office for 10 years. I couldn't stand coffee. Because if you – stains is the main reason. Yeah. Guys would bring coffee. They would spill it in their stains. So I'm like, leave your coffee outside. Smart. So in our office, you would see seven cups of coffee outside, and they would all name it. You would have to go out, because I put videos. You would go outside, drink the coffee, and come back in.

1:50:12If you brought a coffee and had a problem with you, and my guys could tell you this, that was crystal clear. It was known with me. Now, you can say whatever you want. That's my wiring. That's who I was. Eventually, my wife, who loves coffee, and then they teamed up against me. I wasn't happy about it. All mutiny. They said, we have to figure out a way to get Pat to allow coffee. And I said, if we get an office that the floor is cement, I'm open to it. So Glendale office, you've never been to it, Tom. Did you ever get to the Glendale office? The purple cement. The purple cement. It was all cement.

1:50:40So then I poured coffee on the floor. I said, no, I'm okay with it. If you guys are able to place 400 insurance policies in a month, that was a number. Not submitted, place. So they had to work to get a place. We hit 403. It was a celebration. I bought everybody coffee. People are spraying coffee like it's champagne. I don't know. I just want to raise. The part you got to think about is there's levels of sensitivities with everybody that you're going to a job with. You want to be able to minimize as many things that they're going to be thinking about you in the interview. So you're probably better off not bringing it to just not get the person to bring two of them.

1:51:16If you do something like that, I'd like it to say, hey, I'm applying for this job. I always like it when people send an email when we have a job opening. Like, we got right now 35 job openings. By the way, can you go to vt.com forward slash careers? Go to vt.com forward slash careers. Careers. Yeah, there you go. If you go to the bottom, you'll see how many job openings we got. Go all the way to the bottom on how many job openings. People will send me an email or they'll send me a DM or they'll send me a manek and they'll say, hey, Pat, I'm applying for this job. I will forward that message to HR.

1:51:44I will forward that message to HR. So that's great. Go apply for it. And typically the people that do the AI interview there go even higher because we get a scoring system on it on the back end. I like that part. And then after the interview, when somebody sends a message and says, hey, I really enjoyed the time with you, I'd love to be able to consider for this position. And then sometime when a guy comes to an interview and in the conversation, something's brought up, a book is brought up, something's brought up, and you leave. Your goal is to be memorable when you leave. Send me back a book.

1:52:14Send me back a conversation. Hey, in the conversation we talked about this, send me something. I just got something really nice from Daniela. It was a Senna, one of these, what do you call it? I don't know, these toys that they had the biggest. Bobblehead. It's not Bobblehead. It's a different thing that kids collect. And it was a former employee of ours. I love Daniela. She sent me something nice. These are small little things that you ought to do. You know, yesterday we had one of our guys, RJ, came here. We got, you know, two nice bottles of wine because I said, hey, man, I got a lot of respect for you.

1:52:41I think these are small little things that you can do that people are paying attention to. But, you know, maybe there's an argument for minimize additional reasons why somebody else is going to judge you because everybody's being judged. We get judged all the time. You're going to be judged. Maybe it's a good idea to not bring the – What was the poll? I don't know what the poll is. Can you send the poll? Did we get the results on the poll? Or were the results? Let me see if they send the poll or not. The results on this iced coffee. I think we got a text. 76 % don't bring it. There you go. 5 % said bring it.

1:53:10I said 80%. 19 % said they don't give a shit. Right. 19 % are like, whatever. I agree with that. It's probably a better idea not to bring it. But if you bring it in front of me, and if not, you're over the top. I care about who you are. They converted you, Tom. I respect that. They converted you. But don't go back on your answer, Tom. No, no, no. You're better than that. I think you got converted. You're fine. You're fine. I think you got it. Tom, I'm going to buy you a coffee. Chris brings chainsaws to his podcast. Coffee's on me. All right. Well, I think since Tom is converting to that, let me go into a story.

1:53:40That's the best transition for this. Alcohol consumption has declined, Tom, for the first time since COVID-19. This is a CNN story. OK, alcohol consumption has declined. And let me go to this story here with you guys. All right. So here we go. Nearly seven years after the pandemic began, alcohol use rates have finally began to drop, according to a study in the annals of internal medicine by Dr. Brian P. Lee, a hepatologist and liver transplant specialist at Keck Medicine USC. The pandemic brought a surgeon drinking in 2020 that hadn't declined for two years. Lee watches waiting rooms filled with liver disease patients, even people in their 20s needing, damn, transplants from alcohol use, something he hadn't seen before the pandemic.

1:54:27Seeing the first decline gives you something to hope for as a doctor, but you have to be appropriately cautious, too, because one change doesn't necessarily mean a sustained trend. Lee said the study found declines in any alcohol use, including heavy drinking, whether it's a turning point or a blip, will make more years of data to know. Tom, we'll take more years of data to know. What do you think is going on here with alcohol? Do you think that's a real thing? No, I think it's an expense and hospitality blip. Because right now we see what's happening with restaurants. We see what's happening with hospitality spending on Americans' budget.

1:55:02And I think rather than get gassed, they'd rather buy gasoline. And I think that's what's going on. And so I think this is a sign of people that are cutting their drinking budget. Now, among that, I do think that the generations coming up are drinking less, and that was before COVID. However, the greater everyone else, Pat, I think it's a blip for everyone else, but I think the young generations are, in fact, drinking less. Yeah, they're drinking nice coffee instead. No, the data shows it. Before COVID, the upcoming generations were drinking less alcohol. During COVID, everybody sat home and drank.

1:55:42Like after COVID with affordability, you have people are going to restaurants less. They're going out less. And what's the most expensive thing when you go to a restaurant? You know, an$8 beer standing next to a$16, you know, restaurant, you know, chicken dinner or whatever it is. And so what you are seeing now, the data shows that people are going out less, that restaurants are having a tough time, and therefore alcohol consumption out is less. but the young generation the data shows they've been drinking less since before covid adam yeah i think uh alcohol is down but that doesn't mean that people stop doing other things that are maybe possibly bad for them because you know just like the truth campaigns people stop smoking cigarettes and now everyone's vaping so there's going to be a replacement so you know as one of the few guys that it's quote unquote out and about i can't tell you how many people are smoking weed thc cbd gummies kava the at the same time there's a bigger wellness uptick that people do want to get healthier and they realize that look alcohol at certain point in your life are you guys good over here okay gotcha certain point of your life the hangover is not worth the uh the fun so by the way i see a number here it says the most striking number is gallop in 2026 only 54 percent of u.s adults say they drink alcohol tied with 2025 for the lowest level Gallup has had in recording since you ready 1939 it's a long time Vinny yeah for comparison it was 67 as recent as 2022 can you can you ask a question in the poll and say have you drank alcohol in the last 30 days I don't care how many it is have you had any kind of alcohol last 30 days yes no simple poll have Have you had any alcohol last 30 days?

1:57:32Any in the last 30 days. Any in the beer, tequila, whiskey, whatever. Absent. I don't care what it is. I don't think it's going to be 80%. You think so? I don't think it's going to be 80%. 30 days? No. Wow. Last 30 days? I think it's going to be 55 % to 60%. Don't you think when people stop drinking alcohol, they replace it? By the way, watch this. Watch this. Let me just finish this. Okay. Actual sale consumption data tells a similar story. According to IWSR, U.S. beverage alcohol volume fell 5 % in 2025 alone. The breakdown. Beer is down 6%. Not last night, but beer is down. Shout out to Chris.

1:58:08Wine is down 2%. Spirits is down 4%. Ready to drink. What is that, by the way? Ready to drink. Is that the cans? No, it's like the margarita mix you just pour it over ice. Ready to drink is down 1%. non-alcoholic beverage is up 15%, and alcohol volumes declined out of 50 states. How many of them do you think declined out of 50 states? All 50. 49 out of 50. What do you think is the one state that didn't decline? Drinking? That gay bar in Boston. We're going to go to that. But what do you think is the state that didn't decline in drinking? Texas. Didn't decline. That's kind of weird. You should be able to get it.

1:58:47Drinking? Alcohol? Alabama? No, it's Nevada. Oh, yeah. Vegas. Nevada didn't decline it. Because they give you free drinks when you're gambling. But I'm going to tell you what's going on here. I'm going to tell you what's going on here. And I wonder, if you got the poll, send it to me. Because I want to know what the poll shows with our audience, where our audience is, would say a lot. Is these health podcasts. I had Chip Wilson on. Founder of Lululemon. Guys worth$6 billion. I had him on the podcast eight years ago. Great conversation. And he said, very soon we're going to have something called smart clothes.

1:59:21And he says in 20 years, so many people are going to be in shape that it's not going to be a big deal if you're in shape. Most people will be in shape, he said, in 20 years. So he said this eight years ago, so we're going to go to 2018. By 2038, most people will be in shape. And I said, why? He says, just the data, and now people are realizing you're killing yourself. If you're eating this food, you're drinking this alcohol, you're killing yourself, are you okay with it? Because the data is going to be in your face. 44 % said yes, they drank. 56 % said they haven't drank anything. Good for you guys.

1:59:5330 days. You're smart. Good for you, okay? Good for you. Because last night, we would have disappointed you. We were hammered. Done. Right? Done. On Camelot T. I'm rolling, Doug. Yeah, but he didn't anticipate all these GLP drugs out here. He thought they'd be smart clothes. But where it's going today, I do think the health podcasts are getting people to think about their health more than ever before. I think one of the worst things that happened to alcohol is all these major health podcasters that are doing what they're doing, talking about the consequences. Podcasting destroyed the alcohol and beverage business.

2:00:33Podcasting in a massive percentage, purely through education. I fully agree with you, and my only question would be, as much as those numbers are down, I'll take one. Bud Light, touch it. My only question is, how much has other things gone up? How much has weed consumption gone up? Cava, THC, smoking, how much of other things increase while alcohol has decreased? But you can't, those are two different things. This is drink. I get it, but it's more like, hey, can I? No, no, no, no. Drink consumption. Very few people can just do what Vinny does. Go out and be completely sober and do nothing wrong.

2:01:11But I'm telling you, I think a lot of people are doing it. I think a lot of people are doing it. I agree with you, but I also think they're smoking cigars, they're vaping. Have you ever gone to the doctor and done a CAT scan and something shows up in your health where you kind of like all of a sudden get uncomfortable? Has that ever happened? Oh, yeah. All the time. They're like, what the hell is that? And when the doctor says, ah, this is not good. Yeah. And you're like, what's not good? Yeah. Well, you know, these cholesterol levels. You got to get on Lipitor, homie. You got to get on Lipitor.

2:01:42You got to get on Lipitor. You got to get on this. You got to get. Yeah. The moment that conversation has, people are. So now imagine all of those videos that are going viral saying, if you drink alcohol, this is what happens to your body. You are literally killing yourself when you drink alcohol. Oh, my God. Let me stop drinking. So the fear aspect of health is truly making an impact. I think a lot more people are like Vinny quitting alcohol purely. And I love it. And I love it. And I've said this before. I think we talked about this yesterday where I go, if you eat too much food, you sit there and just, you know what they say?

2:02:13Oh, man, I'm full. When you drink too much alcohol, it's called alcohol poisoning. It's literally, like when we walk around, we see somebody like this, we're like, ah, look at him. He's buzzed. No, no, no. he's poisoned but he's not poisoned to the point where he's going to die you know i mean because your liver you know it rejuvenates itself which is you know i i guess if livers didn't do that there'd be a lot of less people drinking pat but but there's an exception because five percent of gen z is down from drinking chris chris what would need to happen for you to quit drinking I have no idea.

2:02:45I mean, I don't drink a lot. You know what I mean? I don't get drunk. So, I mean, I don't know. Tell the truth what happened last night. No, yeah, right. Let me defend my guy. You were in Miami? I tried to take him out with me last night. He wouldn't go out. I've had problems with drinking. Like Vinny, I swear, just growing up, I drink all the time. You know, high school parties and stuff like that. And, you know, a couple times throughout my marriage, you know, I've gotten too drunk. I mean, I've not done anything stupid, but, you know, so I can go to sleep. Like, you're like an idiot. But I don't know.

2:03:14I mean, we consider it all the time, me and my wife. We talk all the time. Would you consider it? Yeah, I consider it all the time. Just because of my kids. What would get you to say, I wonder what the process a person goes through. What would get somebody to say, I would quit drinking? I think, for me, like I said, I mean, my wife will tell you, it's like, you know, I mean, I used to get party and stuff like that. And, you know, you always have a little bit of taste of it. But for me, I think it's like, I mean, there's people in my family that don't drink. But it's like, dude, you're on every pill from the doctor there is.

2:03:45I mean, I'm on no medication, right? Yeah, I like to have two or three beers every now and again. So what? I mean, to me, that's how I convince myself in my mind. But I'm not saying I'm right. Yeah. Everybody's on, you know, whatever else. Adderall. I mean, whatever else. If you have the speed. Yeah, you're right. I grew up in high school at the time. Everybody was on Adderall. Like, you can literally just go get it. And here's another thing about Adderall, I'll just tell you. My buddy's an Air Force recruiter. Yep. And he told me that 90 % – this is what he told me, and this is in India, that high school graduates are automatically disqualified because they're on some sort of Adderall.

2:04:22No shit. Or SSRI, because you have to be off – don't quote me, but somebody had to be off medication, I want to say, for at least one year before you could join. I wonder why the freaking recruitment numbers were freaking down for all that time. Everybody's on Adderall. I'll use gunners. Like, yeah, I can't focus. My bodies will get us a party. What do you see? Wow. So here's what I see. I like looking back at pictures like 1940s and 50s. Just look at the streets of New York after a baseball game, a parade, whatever it is. In shape, skinny. Exactly. You don't see the level of obesity and the number of people fighting that.

2:04:52And it's because of two things in America. One is fats and the other is sugar. Sugar and soda. Sugar and cereal. The excess sugar. We know about it. Well, guess what else has a lot of excess sugar? Beer. Yep. Alcohol. I mean, a lot of that's Jameson sugar. And so now you've got people aware of the effects of alcohol, aware of the what's what's happening with sugar and soda and going to get GLP. And so if you want to if you want the GLP to work, you have to you can't fight it with sugar. And people that go on the GLP, they see a double. And if you read about people saying, hey, remember, remember the sugar, you know, back off the sugar.

2:05:33Well, Tom, you just made very good points. So let me just kind of go through what has the least amount of sugar and what has the highest. And don't let this inspire you. Yeah, yeah. So vodka, tequila, whiskey, gin, rum, straight, zero sugar. Huh. A person could use that. That's why I only drink gin, brother. I only drink gin, brother. Hard seltzer, unsweetened, got zero to two grams. Dry red wine, one gram. Dry white wine, one to two grams. Regular beer, 10 to 15 grams. total carbs, and usually very low sugar, but it's got the carbs. Champagne, 103 grams. Sweet wine, 8 to 20 grams. Rum and Coke, 25 to 40 grams.

2:06:14Mojito, 15 to 30 grams of sugar. Margarita, did I pronounce that right? Yeah, one margarita. Margarita, two margaritas. 15 to 35 grams of sugar. Pina colada, 25 to 50 grams of sugar. No good. Frozen daiquiri, sweet, like this is Adam's drink, frozen daiquiri. Loves it. 30 to 60 grams. What about a Shirley Chabot? And by the way, when people are out, I don't see people with shots. I don't see people on the rocks. I see people drink. It's the other stuff that's in it. It's the sugar in the daiquiri, the sugar in the – and so people are backing off. People with GLP, you'll see comments back and forth.

2:06:50It says, hey, remember, you've got to go easy on this. You've got to go easy on sugar. Because you're paying for these injections, don't fight it the other way. Let me ask Tom a question. I want to know what your drink is. Like, when you get into the studio about to wrap, about to throw a beat down, you have one cocktail. Maybe you pop a little something. What's your drink of choice? Pat knows I'll have a glass of red wine with a steak rarely. Compared to five years ago, it's rarely. He knows. We've been out so many times. And I'll say to them, hey, bring me the best house Pinot Wall you have, but bring it with my steak.

2:07:24I don't have it before dinner, and I don't wolf on bread. So I'm moderating that. And so I'll enjoy that with the state. Rarely. Yeah. Mostly, you'll see me have, they say, hey, can you bring me a cranberry juice with lime in it? And I'll have one with no alcohol in it. And then I'm drinking sparkling water all day. I'm going to tell you this. I went from 259 pounds in January with a belly, okay, to 229 this morning, okay? 259 to 229. And you're 6 '4". And I'm 6 '4". So that means I can handle the weight. I know on the internet you're 5 '6". Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's so funny. So what was cut? July of 2019, I cut soda.

2:08:06The guy yesterday, Mark, brought Coca-Cola from McDonald's. I'm not touching that. He did have a Big Mac. He did have a Big Mac and the fries. No Coke. When I would go to movies, and I go to movies a lot with the kids, I would have Slurpee and popcorn. Slushy. Icy. That's sugar. And the big ones. Guess what? Just cutting that alone was massive. I haven't had one since January of this year. Not one. I could vouch for that. I would go and get the cheese, you know, with the popcorn and cheese. Oh, my God. That cheese to me is a nacho. But popcorn with cheese. Oh, yeah. That's a different story. Legendary.

2:08:41In Iran, I mean, who doesn't have that? Legendary, right? We got rid of all the cereal in our pantry. And my cereal, you know what it is? Lucky Charms. Cinnamon. Cold crisp. Oh, my God. And you know when Coca-Crispies is the best? It's called 1030 at night. Oh, no. By yourself. You're just like. This is crazy talking about it. Scoop is sugar at night. This is sugar crazy. Killing it, right? And then cut a lot of that stuff, and I moved my dinner to 430. So unless if I go out and I'm hanging out with people, moving dinner from 8 o 'clock at night that some Middle Easterns eat, just move that up to 430, 445, night and day for you.

2:09:21430. Early. 430, 445. I can't condone it. Because you have a wake hour. Dinner needs to be when the sun is down. Breakfast. If you can go without breakfast and let your body go through the whole process of, what did it call it? Pitosis. The fasting that you're going through and the body's getting ready for it. Breakfast is called break too. A lot of people have been telling me about that. Those simple things changed my life. And I would say never combine two glasses of wine with an old-fashioned Vinny. Don't do that. I would highly recommend not drinking like that. Never do that. Yeah, but a little fun fact, guys, cocaine looks like zero sugar, gluten-free.

2:09:59Hey, guys, can we pull up that video that we just had on the screen? Hey, don't play the audio. We can't play the music. Don't play the music. Play the music. Play no music, but just watch Tom. Look at Tom. Look at how wet Tom's hair is. Look at how wet Tom's hair is. Look at Pat getting it. Oh, shoot everybody, Pat. Shoot everybody, Pat. Look at that. Get that money out. Get the uh. Uh. Uh. By the way, if you go back, Tom almost grabbed his hand. Tom almost grabbed his junk. Go back to Tom almost grabbing his watch. He's about to grab his crotch, and he doesn't do it. Look at him. The Biz Doc.

2:10:30The Biz Doc is grabbing the Biz crotch. The Biz Crotch. Gang, gang. All right. There you go. The truth is out. Shout out to the Migos. You don't want to see Tom rapping. He's actually pretty good. Well, your moves, Pat. Look at you move. Let's go to the next story. One of the funniest stories we've done in a while. You ready for this one? I want to find a story. There's a page on it. So is that the one? Yeah, there it is. So, the best story Boston Globe has done in a while that got him thousands of new paid subscribers, this is the story. You ready for this? You're almost not going to believe it.

2:11:02A Western Massachusetts lesbian bar required the KN95 masks. When it changed the rules, all hell broke loose. Okay, let's go through this story. Wait, this is the lesbian communist bar? Lesbian communist bar. Is it called the red carpet? How does that work? Let me read it to you, okay? So, which is the one? Okay. An August 31st Instagram post from last-ditch bar and arts venue, a lesbian bar in Greenfield, Massachusetts, teased a new DJ lineup and partway down dropped a sentence that splintered the queer community of the Pioneer Valley. It is with love we inform our... What the hell is that? In love?

2:11:48What? No, no. what is an immune-compromised disabled divas, we will be opening Saturday night as mask optional. Patrons had previously been required to wear well-fitted K &N 95 masks or better at all times. The change was not received with love. Just say you're being complicit in a mask-disabling event and get it over with, one commenter wrote. People like you kill disabled people in the name of your own leisure and convenience posted another. One hop, the venue gets firebombed. The Globe trade. Wow. The fallout as a case study and COVID era activist subcultures while masking became identity and relaxing.

2:12:34It became betrayal five plus years after the pandemic pandemic's peak. So apparently this story with the mask meltdown generated thousands of subscribers in one day for Boston Globe and on pace to shatter all sorts of Boston Globe records. These guys did the Catholic story with the boys, the movie that came out with Tom Hanks, okay, per Max Tenney, managing editor calling it, by far our most best-performing story of the year, the Globe Peace Chronicle, the Ditch Bar, and when they put that tweet out there. So the details keeps escalating. Rules welcoming poor and unhoused people. A bartender rejecting a Lady Gaga night because Gaga is canceled.

2:13:15Gaga is a Zionist in a September 11 community meeting where owner Jackie Metallian working multiple jobs and living in her car broke down. She's trying to make it work for these communist lesbians who want a mask to be on. I never really wanted this. I don't think I'm doing a very good job. Attendee slammed her tears as incredibly racist and deflecting behavior and objecting that the mediator was a white therapist. battalion owes her landlord $3 ,900 by month's end. So Vinny, what do you think about this crazy story here? Can we see some pictures of what these ladies look like? That'd be great.

2:13:53Look at how hairy her legs are. Zoom in on that. I want you to zoom in on those legs right there. Is that really hairy? Can you zoom in on that or no? Like right there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So they all have masks? At a bar. Easing the mask? At a lesbian bar. But, Pat, like, first of all, can I ask a very weird, like, is this appropriate to ask this question? Go for it. You're a lesbian. You want a mask on? Yeah. Don't go deeper. Don't say anything. No, Pat. We won't go deeper. No. Can't. How are you doing anything? How is anything happening? Isn't that like, like, if I was a lesbian, I would go to places that don't want a mask.

2:14:33I have zero masks. Because it shows you who's open-minded. You're damn right. No pun intended. So, I just think, Pat, anything. Catastrophic decision here, Tom. Just the fact that you say, Tom. I think this is going to lead the Boston Globe covering other things, such as a gay totalitarian bar, free beer, free Tibet. So it's a little bit weird. And the Boston Globe is going to be running for it. See, this works. So stand by for other stories from the Boston Globe who they can talk about this or that. But deep inside, they're capitalists and they want to get subscribers. So I'm waiting for a whole list of these stories every Thursday.

2:15:07The fact that this is the biggest story of Boston Globe, that they're reporting saying they gained thousands of subscribers per note from Boston Globe's staff, the lesbian bar story generated a thousand subscriptions to the paper yesterday. Global management editor said, by far the best performing. Insanity. Insanity. So you think they're going to do it again, Pat? What do you think? You know what it does? What I love about this story is when we had Mehdi Asana on, and I said, hey, man, isn't it great that you're now a capitalist? He said, I'm not a capitalist. Of course you're a capitalist. You started your own company.

2:15:36And he's going to crush. He's going to do well. He's very, very talented. But the longer you're alive, the longer you eventually become a capitalist, and hopefully you realize, hey, man, we've got to make sure we find a way for this lady to make money to pay her rent at$3 ,900, or else this incredibly lesbian communist club is going to shut down, and we need this place to be shut down. We need this place to be open. She can't afford razors to shave her legs. But good point. At some point in time, you're going to realize that rent and food takes cash. Ain't that a bitch? Yeah, but you know what it is?

2:16:06I know you want to go. This might be the greatest example, Tom. I've seen people getting eaten alive by the culture they helped create. She's broke, living in her truck. She's working four jobs, drowning in debt. And the people that you're trying to please, they're calling you racist, ableist, because you made mask optionals. Guys, one night a week in 2026. And if we're going to be honest, Tom, and then you apologize, and then they attacked the apology because it didn't feel like an alternative text. I don't know. Where does she live? Boston, right? Yeah, but where does she live? She's in her truck.

2:16:42Down by the river. Yeah, exactly. In a van. Like, it's insane. Chris, what do you think? I have no clue. It's the best answer to this. Come on, man. You haven't been to a lesbian. I mean, it's not interesting. Because just to wrap your head around this, it boggles my mind that that, like, listen to all the levels of how insane it is. And it's, by the way, am I the only one that if you guys are hanging around right now, the other, when was it? Was it yesterday, Chris? We're sitting there. This lady had a mask. Pat, when was it? Was it yesterday or the day before? We're sitting there eating in 2026.

2:17:15Guys, COVID, what happened? COVID? Anybody? Did COVID disappear just like the flu when COVID happened? She had a mask on so tight. When I see somebody wearing a mask, that to me is like, you are the most gullible, brainwashed. Like if God forbid the zombie apocalypse comes You're the first ones to get it What are you wearing a mask for? This lady was 30 years old Tight, tight mask in a restaurant And every time she ate I'm like what the hell is going on? I mean that's another one of those questions What is wrong with you? If a man goes on a date a girl still got a mask on You gotta be like You gotta move on You've just described Islam You're going on a date And the person you're dating is sitting there It's a ninja.

2:18:01When do you get to meet? At some point. Hopefully some point later on. I got to give Tom credit for that one. Look, this bar is the exact opposite of any bar I've ever been to in South Beach. In South Beach, it's chicks in miniskirts, fake this, fake that, you know, lips inflated. The last thing they have is a mask on. Men in miniskirts. Only fans, chicks. Yeah, literally none of that. No, not on Collins Avenue. Never. Tom knows a lot about what's going on in South Beach, apparently. Step up, boys. They're hip-hop writers. This bar is like the Venn diagram of, like, pre-Palestine, mask mandate, pro-Lindsey Clancy, LGBTQIA, identity pronoun, anti-capitalist communist.

2:18:45Shove them all in a bar. I would just lock the door, now you can't leave, and let them all figure it out, and let the best man win in that bar. By the way, did you guys invite them to your bar? There's two stories we got. One of the two stories to get to. Do we want to go to the Xi Jinping or do we want to go through what just came out when Hillary Clinton said kicking out the free press and stories came out of Julian Assange where in an email she asked, can't we just drone the guy? Did you guys see that? I saw that. Okay, so go to the Hillary Clinton post. Hillary Clinton post this yesterday.

2:19:14Kicking out free press is what fragile authoritarians do, not American presidents. This is her tweet 24 hours ago, okay? Oh, yeah. So this is what she says. Kicking off free press is what fragile authoritarians do, not American presidents. And she gets a community note. Hillary Clinton literally suggested U.S. should kill a prominent journalist Julian Assange through a drone. Have you seen this letter? She's a killer. Can you go to the tweet that shows the notes? Look at this. Can you go to this? Can't we just – where's the – while Julian Assange – no, no, but there's actually a – There's one that's highlighted.

2:19:50Yeah, that's highlighted in yellow. It says, can't we – Just drone the guy. This is one frustrated of Hillary Clinton. Sources said at some point blurted out a controversial query. She said, can't we just drone this guy? Clinton openly inquired, offering a simple remedy to silence Assange and smother WikiLeaks via planned military drone strike. According to State Department sources, the statement drew laughter from the room, which quickly died off when the secretary kept talking in a terse manner. Sources said Clinton said Assange, after all, was a relatively soft target walking around freely and thumbing his nose without any fear of reprisals from the United States.

2:20:29That's the true Hillary Clinton. To all the people out there that are like, I'm with her and everything. She is a legitimate killer gangster. And you know why the room got quiet? Why? Because everybody's going like this. Oh, crap. She's serious. She's serious. Oh, guys. And one of the most. And I talked about this last night at dinner. I'm one of those guys that would sit there pre-COVID, after COVID, during COVID. I would just watch hearings after hearings from Benghazi to you name it. And her attitude, besides all the mysterious suicide, death, Mark Middleton, people that are connected to her, her husband, or the Clinton Foundation.

2:21:05Guys, her attitude of Chris Stevens and all these American patriots getting killed. She's like, what difference does it make? She doesn't care. Hillary Clinton, you nailed it, Pat. She is a legitimate gangster, and I believe her 100%. So the irony of her trying to talk about the free press, you wanted to kill a guy that released footage that he got of American soldiers killing innocent people in that video. What was it called? Collateral damage? Like, give me a freaking break. That's who Hillary Clinton is. Chris, are you a big Hillary fan? Yeah, I voted for her. Did you really? No. He speaks sarcasm.

2:21:44Yes, he does. He speaks sarcasm. I love it. Okay, gang, it's 1130, and it's time. We all got meetings. Some of us have meetings. Some of us have to go drink a couple of wine. A couple of pina coladas, Pat. Pina coladas. Pina colada. A little respect for the pina colada community. But Chris, how was the experience last night and today? Great. I mean, it was great. That's all I can say. That's it. There you go. Most casual guy I've ever met, man. I love him. I love him. Whatever, man. By the way, like I said to you earlier, if you want to find a way to be here talking with us and going to dinner, text the word podcast to 310-340-1132.

2:22:16Again, text the word podcast to 310-340-1132. We will have other opportunities in the future with us. We've got some very strange interviews that are going to be shot today that will come next week. Can't wait. I think you're going to enjoy the interviews that's coming here soon. Take care, everybody. God bless. Bye-bye. Bye-bye.

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