Trump’s Air Force One Escape, Tucker & Hunter Biden Team Up & WNBA Apology Gone Wrong | PBD #843

0:25Are you okay? Lots of things happening. Sorry. Lots of stories. You know, we got Fauci. Fauci had another rough week with stories coming out about the fact that these guys in text knew that the vax was going to potentially cause miscarriages. A big percent. Bill Ackman comes out and says, no wonder my wife and I had seven miscarriages. And then all of a sudden, Fauci's back into it again. Seven. Seven. Bill Ackman? After she got the shot, his wife together, they had seven miscarriages. That's crazy. That's crazy. In how long of a span? Well, I don't know how long the span would be, say, a couple years.

1:04But, you know, it is something that we'll talk about here today. Brad Pitt came out and said he's no longer sober. He's drinking again after seven years. After the past year. And they asked why some of the family issues, stuff like that. So we'll talk about that. Conor McGregor said he's going to be joining him. And he ends alcohol sobriety. He messaged me, both of them. Are you open to the idea? Stop being a little wussy. And I was like, guys, I can't. You wouldn't cave. Don't do it. No. Despite the headlines, you're not breaking. And then WNBA coach, what a sincere coach. She's so awesome. Isn't she so sincere?

1:34The level of sincerity when she comes out and says, I didn't see it. When they called the foul, I didn't see it. You know, this is like, you not understand you're living in the social media era. Videos going viral showing you're right behind a foul. How do you not see the head getting hit and say, well, you know, I don't think it was a dirty play. She was standing in front of the people that have front row seats. She had better views than the referees of the foul. So absolutely embarrassing. Embarrassing. Imagine you're a player and your players start talking to each other saying, does the coach even have our back or not?

2:11You know, is this person? And she gets upset at the media? You? You're getting upset? I don't think you have a place to get upset. By the way, some guy about a year or two years ago made a prediction, and Tom wasn't a fan of the prediction. And the prediction was the fact that AOC is going to be the Democratic candidate. And Tom fought me on this. Hardcore behind closed doors. You guys know Tom's temper. It was pretty bad. Things being thrown around. And then Adam's like, it'll never happen. I think it was the guy on your right. It'll never happen. And then Calci. Calci comes out yesterday. Do you know how much money has been put on this?

2:46$170 million. $178 million this morning, sir. I'm off$8 million. Calci comes out this morning. You know what it says? Guess who's officially the leading candidate to become the Democratic presidential candidate for 2020? Not Pete Buttigieg? It's not Pete. It's not Newsom. It's officially AOC. A socialist takes over, and she froze her eggs, and apparently they broke up. Her and her fiancé had a breakup, and so there's a bunch of different speculation. Maybe we'll address that. And then SPLC. You guys remember the whole SPLC scandal that came out? Oh, we would never do such a thing. We're about uniting and we're about, you know, bringing blacks and whites together.

3:24Well, apparently Charlottesville, the whole riot was started by the SPLC. And you know who reports on this? Not Breitbart, not Fox. You know, we're not talking about practice. Not talking about practice. No. You know who does? Who? ABC News. Can you imagine how embarrassing it is that you're forcing ABC to have to address this issue with you? But they do. So we will talk about that story. And then FYI, how many times do you try to trick your family or your kids? Like you go to a restaurant and you sneak out on a car and you change the Uber. And then so people don't see where you're going because you're trying to get a surprise or a gift or something like that.

4:01Well, somebody did that at a whole different level. And he's got a job that works on Pennsylvania Avenue. This guy named Donald J. Trump, who happens to have this job called president. And he allegedly used a catering truck to sneak off Air Force One amid Iranian threats. and went on a complete different place, and everybody thought he was on Air Force One. So imagine the people that are on the Air Force One. It's like, look, if we get attacked, we're taking one for the team, and everybody else goes on the other side. But that's the kind of stuff they've got to do. It's like that old movie, My Best Friend's Wedding, right?

4:29Julia Roberts running away in the catering room. That's a good one. That's a good one right there. And Ellisons, who are buying Paramount, they're saying when the deal gets done, allegedly they want to move Paramount out of California to two states, and we'll reveal to you what those two states are. And those two states are not Illinois. It's not, you know, they're not looking at Maryland or New York. They're looking at a couple states that happen to be red. And you can probably guess who was. And they may sell one component. I know. I know. And that one component is the one I don't want them to sell.

4:58I want them to keep it. But they're being forced to sell that. So maybe we'll reveal to them what that one component is. I don't want them to sell it. Don't do it. Keep it. Don't do it. And then we got a few other stories we'll get into. but one of the stories that we'll get into is Tucker Carlson had Hunter Biden on his podcast. And while they were on the podcast, they talked about a lot of different things. Remember the Hunter Biden laptop story? Who was the outlet that X was supposed to take down, the tweet that was going viral? You know, all these different stories during the election that was going on.

5:33I don't know what it was. I don't know if it was a New York Post story. I don't know what it was. I think it was a New York Post. I think it was New York Post where Twitter took it down and they said, hey, this is a conspiracy. It's not really happening. Russia misrepresentation. Well, and Biden, Hunter and Tucker actually are sitting there talking. And Tucker said, sided with Hunter, that the laptop was allegedly, you know, coming from where? I don't know what he was saying. He makes this out again. We'll play the clip. But let me tell you what we decided to do. And this credit to this goes to Vinny.

6:02we decided to reach out to John Paul MacIsaac, who if you remember him at the time, he was the gentleman who Hunter brought the laptop to. And so Hunter on Tucker's laptop called out John Paul. Allegedly, apparently he's saying John Paul's lying. This is a lie. So we said, hey, let's get John Paul to say something about it. And so John Paul is here with us. John Paul, in a minute, we'll come to you and play the video clip for you and then have you react to it and then we'll get into it and maybe the boys, Vinny, will ask a question and then we'll go from there. But with that being said, a lot of exciting things.

6:40And last but not least, the rumors are true. Everybody with the Andrew Wilson offer that was made to Candace Owens for$300 ,000 on the Rogan podcast, the debate is taking place tomorrow. It's going to be live. it's going to be 11 a.m. Eastern Standard Time, 8 a.m. Pacific, and it's going to be a live, not prerecorded, it's not, it's not prerecorded on the topic of, you know, Charlie Kirk and his position is that there's overwhelming evidence that Tyler Robinson shot and killed Charlie Kirk and her argument is the fact that, no, he was a patsy. So that would be a very, very, they've agreed. I was involved.

7:29We had Zooms. We had calls together. And both sides, credit to them, each of them have kept their commitments of going back and forth. So you decide which side you are with this. People know where I'm at, but I'm a moderator for this. I'm not going into this debating. I'm simply there hosting this debate, and I'm looking forward to it. I think the audience has been asking for something like this for some time. So kudos for both of them for having agreed to do this. Again, whether you agree or not, I respect anybody that gets in the arena that's willing to take the criticism and the feedback that comes from all sides.

8:05And you know it's great when people send me messages and say, oh, my God, you know, people are so angry on this side, saying you're going to be on Andrew's side. And the camp from Andrew's campus, you're going to be on Candace's side. That's when you know this is going to be a good show because no one's happy. and respect to Michael Knowles and Rogan, who were also involved. Michael Knowles had his own position he shared with the audience. Joe Rogan was also involved, respect to both of the guys as well. All right, with that being said, gang, for those of you guys that got big plans for 2026 and 2027, and you're seeing what's going on in the marketplace with business, and you got big dreams, and you want to go out there and do special things for yourself, and you want to network with others.

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10:54So go to vault2026.com, get a ticket for yourself. For some of you guys that are bringing five packs, There's an opportunity to get a five-pack with general tickets as well. With that being said, let's get right into it. So Tucker Carlson has Hunter Biden on. And while they're there, the topic of the laptop comes up. And when the topic of the laptop comes up, this is what Hunter had to say, and this is what Tucker had to say. And we decided to invite John Paul MacIsaac, who was the gentleman who received Hunter's laptop that had the Bo Biden sticker on it where John Paul asked him, what's your name?

11:33And Hunter gives him a look and says, Hunter Biden. And this is in the state, if I'm not mistaken, if it was in Delaware, if I'm not mistaken, he'll correct me if I'm wrong. So Tucker had Hunter Biden on. They had a conversation together and here's what they had to say. Go for it. Then the official story comes out about how the laptop was left. You left a couple of laptops in a laptop repair store in Greenville, Delaware, which I'm a town I'm very familiar with. So, and the guy was blind. Then I interviewed the guy who seemed to totally believe the story, John McIsaac. I mean, he seemed to be telling the truth.

12:02But the story did not make sense. Meanwhile, I'm getting, we get approached by Israelis connected to Benjamin Netanyahu. Like, I know that. Who are shopping this stuff to me at Fox News. Yeah. And I'm like, I don't think that that part of the story, the laptop is real. I thought that from day one. Laptops. But the way that it entered the bloodstream of the American media was not real. So I just want to ask you point blank. Did you drop off laptops? And this is the thing that I've said over and over again. I have literally zero recollection or memory of ever dropping off a laptop. Oh, you don't remember.

12:40John Paul McIsaac. No, the answer is no. I was high. Drop it high. Hang on. John Paul McIsaac, who's legally blind, who on the day when the laptop became public, sat outside of his shop and gave an interview and flat out says that he doesn't remember seeing me. He couldn't identify me. He doesn't remember seeing you. And also that his security cameras that he has don't have any footage from that time. And so regardless, though, regardless of anything, just this, the laptop, according to Lev Parnas, under oath in his testimony before the House Oversight Committee, was being sought by Rudy Giuliani in Ukraine all the way back in 2018.

13:27And so Rudy Giuliani is working with a guy named Andrei Derkash, who was a MP in Ukraine and a known Russian GRU agent. So Rudy goes over there and basically takes his dossier and receives information that Hunter Biden's hard drive, not laptop, is for sale. And the person that they can go to is this other Ukrainian-Russian oligarch who is living in Austria. That's what Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman were doing, getting on the plane before they were arrested. We can pause it right now. Now, they're going to go back and forth for about five minutes. But here's what we do know. What we do know as the market, that we saw this, that on October, to give you the exact date, October 14, 2020, 20 days before the 2020 election, this tweet is going viral with the story of New York Post.

14:25They end up taking it down. Twitter does. Remember, at that time, Elon doesn't own Twitter. And later on, when they did Twitter files, I don't know if you guys remember the Twitter files. Matt Taibian, I believe. Exactly, Matt Taibian. There was one other person that was involved as well. Could have been Barry Weiss. I think it was Barry Weiss. Then you see email exchange of them saying that, hey, you guys specifically asked to take these things down. Why did you? And then it was chaotic everywhere. So, John Paul, first of all, thank you for making the time for being on the podcast here with us.

14:57What was your reaction when you saw this exchange about the laptop? How did you, the person that was involved in this story, How did you react to the story? Well, for the last six months, actually, I think longer, I've been listening to Hunter try to rewrite his history. So I think that aspect's comical because every lie that's come out of Hunter's mouth has actually been proven in court to be a lie by his father's own DOJ. Like, Exhibit 6 was the timeline for the laptop, and it clearly states that I sent him an email. I called him. He called me back. he came back to the shop it the serial number of his laptop that he signed for was the same serial number that was on the subpoena so it's kind of it's ridiculous that he's trying to rewrite history unless he owes somebody a lot of money that's also producing a documentary that wants a certain narrative to be pushed and that's what i think's happening who is that who is the person doing a documentary?

16:01Well, Hunter owes Kevin Morris a lot of money. And every time Hunter made a public appearance in the past four years, he's always had Kevin Morris and his camera crew around. So we're waiting patiently for this documentary to come out. And I just assume the last eight months have been Hunter doing Kevin Morris's PR work, basically. What is the exact amount that he owes Kevin Morris for the documentary? Do you know? Well, Kevin Morris footed his bill during the time he was in California. So I heard it was up to$4.2 million, but I haven't been keeping track of Hunter's finances. Okay. And so when you saw this, what was your reaction with the way Tucker pushed back or the lack of pushback on the story?

16:43Knowing Tucker has access to you, he can call you. He had the conversation with you. And Tucker, just a few years ago, was one of the guys that said this is the biggest story that took place. And so his position changed. Did you, one, what are your thoughts about the way Tucker reacted to him? And number two, did Tucker's camp at all reach out to you to get a reaction to the interview? So I'm not really too surprised at Tucker's reaction. So I was introduced to Tucker on October 16th, and I had a lengthy text message with him. This is October 16th of what, 2020 or October 16th of what year? 2020.

17:18Okay, got it. Two days after the New York Post broke the story. Tucker, I was introduced to Tucker in a text message and we texted back and forth. He asked me a lot of questions about what the FBI was asking me and what they had, if he knew what they were looking into and what they had found. And then that was it. The last time, the next time I talked to Tucker Carlson was May 4th of 2022. And that told me that he had absolutely zero interest in confronting me about the laptop. What happened after our conversation on the 16th, I was also introduced with a gentleman named Yakov Applebaum on the 17th by the same guy that introduced me to Tucker Carlson.

18:02And Yakov is, and this gentleman that introduced me was Larry Johnson, who's a former CIA analyst, a friend of my father, who was kind of helping me navigate this quagmire I found myself in. and uh so yakov worked for larry as his tech guy so larry sent yakov to my house to collect the laptop the data to analyze and verify it he then collected some criminality off of it to mail to tucker's producer which tucker or says the ups lost on i think it was the 27th of october which that just threw up red flags at me because then to have tucker not even want me to talk about the laptop on his show for a year and a half told me that and then when i found out that tucker was in the laptop it kind of all made sense so what i feel like tucker's doing right now is i think he's kind of running cover for his um complacency in covering the laptop i mean he he beat his sabers and uh you know talked about accountability and he brought up the laptop a lot But, I mean, it took him a year and a half to have me on the show.

19:10And I was told if I talked about anything other than what he wanted to talk about, I would never be invited back. Who said that to you? The producers? Tucker's producer. Interesting. So I've had Tucker flagged as, like, complacent with covering up the laptop since basically the 16th of October. 2020, six years old. I asked me a lot of questions, and then that was it. I didn't hear a week out of him. What's your speculation? You said he's in the laptop. In what way is he in the laptop? Is it an email exchange? Yeah, he was friends with Hunter. He was neighbors. I think he was asking for Hunter to get his kid into Georgetown, and then I think the wife had some plans.

19:49I know he was in the laptop. I don't care. It's D.C. Plus, I mean, people forget Tucker was in CNN for a while. I mean, he's an opportunist. Yeah, I think that exchange is, to me, it's nothing. It's, you know, if you guys are communicating at that time, you're in D.C., I totally get it. You know, families talk to one another. And sometimes there is the acting and what we do on TV. And then you see some of these guys behind closed doors that they're friends with all of them. So it wasn't that it was anything malicious that it was in the laptop. It's just purely that there was proof that they're communicating and they're friends.

20:22Yeah, I think inviting to each other's birthday parties, that kind of stuff. Got it. So the last time you spoke to him was May 4th of 2022. The first time you did was October 16th of 2020, four days before the New York Post story came up. And then immediately a few hours later, Twitter took it down. OK, so so in this case, when you're when you're hearing the exchange between the two of them, you know, the market looking at this, knowing all of this was documented. And, you know, Tucker knows this stuff and, you know, Hunter knows this stuff. Why wouldn't Tucker push back? Why wouldn't he push back on this?

21:00Why didn't Sean Ryan push back? Why didn't Candace Owens push back? Why hasn't any interview Tucker done? Why has Tucker refused to do interviews where he knows that there's going to be pushback? So I think, again, I think Kevin Morris is going to get his money back. He's produced Broadway productions. He's produced documentaries before. I think he's put a lot of money into Hunter. And I think he wants to recoup that money. So I think a lot of what we're seeing right now is is opportunities for people like Tucker to insert Israel into the mix, which, again, it's he knows who Yakov is. he knows he's not an Israeli asset.

21:41So why Tucker wanted to pander to his audience about Israelis and the link and the tie, that's on Tucker. But I don't, you know, it just seems awfully peculiar for people to sacrifice their credibility at this level, knowing the facts and knowing the detail and knowing that Hunter's own father, DOJ, documented everything. And, you know, but they're usually the only reason why people would do these things is for money. So that's my only, that's the only thing I can. Yeah, it's funny. I looked at it. The original documented loan to Biden was six and a half million. The current reported debt is five plus million.

22:20And, you know, they're going back and forth. There was also an unusual transaction involving Hunter's artwork. Morris purchased art in a deal that the congressional investigators calculated reduced Hunter's debt to Morris by$525 ,000. and this is stuff that's out there. This is judiciary.house.gov. So it's not like this is a blogger writing this that's out there. But Vinny, when you see this, what questions do you have for John Paul? So, hey, John, it's Vinny. Good to see you again. So, John, I have two things. Because they keep saying, oh, he's blind. He doesn't know. He doesn't see. I have two things.

22:53So that day, John, when Hunter walked in and you said, you know, very intoxicated, smelled like alcohol, trouble speaking, balancing, nearly dropped the laptop on the counter one of them was liquid damage so you couldn't get anything out of it probably because he was drinking and doing whatever the hell um he does on it and then you saw the beau biden foundation sticker uh so you you asked him who he was and he like paused and said hunter and then you're like okay last name biden they want us to believe that what this was some massad agent because they knew you were partially blind they came in to set all this up so i want just very very briefly john can you recall that moment that the interaction with him as if you don't know what his voice is.

23:33And then my second part, John, is now all these years you couldn't talk about certain things on these laptops because of lawsuits. Now that they're all gone and everything's said and done, what's the one thing that you've been dying to tell everybody that you saw that you couldn't tell us the last time that's like, oh my God, so blatantly obvious and one of the reasons he got a pardon? Wow. Well, let's start with the last one. So, you know, I've always had a problem with the inappropriate relationship with Hunter's niece, his dead brother's kid. It's the reason why the gun ended up in the trash can in the first place.

24:08That behavior shocked me. What shocked me even more was Jim Biden and Joe Biden and basically the family, the patriarchy, trying to do their best to come up with ways to silence the mother, to, you know, we'll shove it down her throat. was I think one of the quotes that I read when they were going to describe her drug use to kind of combat, you know, they were going to punish her for Hunter's behavior revolving around an underage niece. And I thought that was probably the most horrible thing that a family could do to itself. And just really quick, John, the relationship, was it just drug use or was there something nefarious happening between those two?

24:55that you saw allegedly? It looked like Hunter was taking advantage of a young lady that kind of saw in Hunter a better man, probably a crush. So, you know, there was a lot of inappropriate... I mean, I believe the mother was upset because Hunter was smoking crack naked in front of her during chat messages or a message. or iChat, I think it was iChat. Okay. Yeah, that's a messed up family and the depths that they would go to to protect their own from their own, it's just disgusting. Yeah, well, remember in Ashley Biden's what was it? Her diary that she left behind at an Airbnb. She said some stuff about her father allegedly showering with her probably at inappropriate ages.

25:47So then, John, just really fast, the day that he walked in smelling like alcohol, dropping it off. Can you just very, very briefly bring that up again? Because they're acting as if you don't know what you're talking about and you couldn't see anything. All right. So I've never, up until he walked in the shop, I absolutely had no interest in knowing what Hunter Biden looked like. So I had no idea who this guy was. The check-in process at my shop is I collect customer information. The first question is, can you give me your first name and your last name? It's simple. So, yes, I am visually impaired.

26:21I cannot drive. And yes, I have problems seeing past five to eight feet without visual aids. Am I blind? Am I unable to see who I'm talking to or recognize a person when they come in or recognize a person that's starring in their homemade porn is the same guy that dropped off the laptop? or how about this for all the people that question my eyesight and my ability to see. I have a pretty good earring. So, you know, the high-pitched, entitled voice of Hunter Biden rings in my ears every time I hear it. I recognize that voice everywhere. So, you know, I'd say it's all bullshit. They should see me at the range.

27:04Yeah. Adam, final question. John Paul, everyone wants to focus on Hunter, but I want to focus on you for a second. And the way I look at this is everyone has their own incentives or their motivations. So break this down to first principles for me. You've been in the limelight for six years. What is your motivation for any of this? Why are you involved in this story other than him bringing you this laptop? How have you benefited? I never wanted to be involved with this story. And I'm actually surprised that here I am nearly six years later, and I'm still having to defend the authenticity, the legitimacy, the chain of command, the origin of this laptop.

27:46And I'm doing it because people want to rewrite history for a reason. And this, I just don't feel like I should let this stand. I was hoping that in the four years that I was involved in lawfare to try to hold people accountable, that the Congress and other people would kind of join me and get my back. And unfortunately, I was left on my own. So after four years of lawfare, I'm free to leave Delaware now. So I'm trying to desperately get out of Delaware before anything more, anything bad. Have you enriched yourself? Have you gotten any benefits from any of this? No, I, I've, I lost my business.

28:20Uh, I'm destitute. I have to sell my home because I can't afford to live here. Um, I have to, uh, I was swatted two years ago. Uh, the state of Delaware has tried to disarm me. Um, I don't like leaving my house because every time i interact with anybody outside it usually goes poorly so i'm i you know this is this has not gone well for me but i'm not going to give up because the people that seem to want to push a fake narrative are also just seem to be profiting greatly off of this and i just think that's wrong to profit off of my suffering and the suffering of anybody else that was involved in this thing well you know if the audience is watching the same thing i'm seeing you seem very sincere on who you are.

29:03And also the first time I had you on, you seem very sincere. Why would you benefit from this? That's actually a good question to ask. So John Paul, appreciate you for making a time for jumping on and just kind of giving you a perspective. And we wish you nothing but the very best. Again, thank you for your time. Thank you, gentlemen. Anytime. Thank you. It's so interesting to me that you try to do this. The motives behind. Remember, in every relationship, if you ever want to size up an enemy, an ally, a friend, somebody you want to get married, remember the five things. Concerns. What are your concerns with that relationship?

29:37Number two, what are your assumptions? What are your motives? What are the fears? What are your asks? What's Tucker's motive with this? What is the motive? I have one angle. We know what Hunter's motive is. We get that. I mean, they need content. They need content to rebrand, and then Hunter's going to come out and say, here's what we're doing. But what's Tucker's motive with this? So I'd love that you asked that. So yesterday, Pat, Chuck Ross, who used to work at Daily Caller, who I think Tucker co-owned or one of them. He did. Him and Neil Patel. He says that when the Hunter laptop story broke, he was working there in 2020.

30:10The reporters there found emails showing Tucker and Hunter knew each other, just like he's saying. Personally, Tucker asked Hunter to write a recommendation to get his son Buckley into Georgetown. So the reporters thought, OK, this is perfect. The media is claiming the laptop emails could be fake, and Tucker could personally confirm that his emails with Hunter were real. But according to Ross, Tucker wanted no part of it and allegedly got pissed off, Pat, saying a story about it would be attack on his family. Like, basically, me and Tucker are like this. They go way back. And who is this person?

30:43Chuck Ross. Is this the email exchange, or is this something else? Of course. Getting on the plane now, but I'll ask Susie to send it. Now, this is Tucker asking in 2014, specifically asking Hunter to help him with his son Buckley get into Georgetown. And you see it's clear. It's not one line, Pat. It's, hey, I'm going to do this. Oh, hey, buddy, I will need Hunter back to Tucker. Hey, buddy, I need Buckley's CV, curriculum vitae, you know, his resume. If you have one handy, thanks. Hunter, I can't thank you. Tucker responds. Hunter, I can't thank you enough for writing a letter to Georgetown on Buckley's behalf.

31:20So nice of you. I know it'll help. Hope you're great and we can get dinner soon. It's all complacency and he's trying to cover his butt because even the FBI, they just had released documents, Operation Round River from December 2019, that the FBI had damning information, Joe Biden, Hunter, Burisma, corruption in Ukraine, and the new material that was released, that 14 informants were giving them all this information, and the FBI was like, no, no, no, no. This is Russian information, Pat. They're all covering their butts. We all know what Hunter is. Like, this whole parading around. My issue is not Hunter.

31:56I know who Hunter is. By the way, I actually think he's funny as hell. He's good on social media. He's doing all that stuff, and he's trying to rebrand himself. I get that. I get why you would want to do that because he's still young. I don't know how old he is, probably in his 50s or early 60s. I don't know how old he is. So he's trying to get back in the limelight. And he's been around the block, so he knows how to communicate. So I get that part. The dirt, the stuff that he did. By the way, the report is that he sexually inappropriate behavior with his niece is what it is. But to me, it's more about what's Tucker's motive?

32:29What is he doing? Where does he want to be? What's his loyalty to? What is he trying to figure out? That's the part I don't know. and we will never know because that's only in the man's mind what he's doing. All you can do is judge the person's behavior and see what it's leading to. And this right here is a, he dropped the ball on this because you can't have somebody like that come to you, say you're a Republican, say you're a conservative, and then change your position. Either leave the party and just say I'm a Democrat. Leave the party and go do something else. Go maybe create a third party and give you a position, which he's kind of doing right now.

33:05But some of this behavior is very weird. Yeah, the thing I'll say about this is I don't think we fully appreciate or genuinely understand how elite and insider Hunter Biden and Tucker Carlson are. I mean, Tucker's kind of parading out there with his tobacco and his flannels as he's an American every man. I like to hunt and fish. Buddy, your dad was allegedly CIA. hunter's dad has been in political landscape the big guy years the big guy 10 for the big guy you need a favor to get your son into college he didn't earn it there's no merit there you send a little email track show the email right here can you do me a favor the favor's done so to me this whole masquerading as this populist you're an elitist you've been you've been on the inside of everything for 30, 40, 50 years, and now you want to kind of play dumb.

34:03That's the issue that I have. Yeah. Tom, give me the final words. What are you thinking? How are you processing this? So there's a couple things that you can look at. Because if you go to the concerns, motivation, assumptions, fears, and ask, so what could be some motivation for Tucker? If there's a real documentary coming and Hunter is saying, by the way, Hunter is everywhere. There's a Wall Street Journal report, I think, that said Hunter is everywhere. What's he up to? I think it was a journal yesterday. And so everybody's asking a question. Well, guess what? If he's got a guy he owns money to and that guy wants to film a documentary, then he needs footage and everything.

34:35That makes sense to me. How would Tucker figure in that? It's like you got to rewrite history. You got to spin. AOC is spinning. Everybody's spinning on their positions. And I feel like Tucker's trying to spin and his prior position or trying to take something. And the Internet's not letting him do it. People are putting things side by side. Hey, three years ago you said this. Now you're saying this. You know, I'm not trying to be a critic here. I'm just looking at the— Hunter or Tucker? On Tucker. You know, it's just like, okay, you know, you've gone one way, you've got another. So it seems like you're trying to brand and position— Too much flip-flopping.

35:12And you're in there with—you appear to be a really good friend to his. I'm not even joking. I'm being dead-ass honest. I don't know if Tucker knows how the Internet works. I'm being serious. When you're in front of a camera— Now he knows. No, no, hear me out. Hear me out. When you're in front of a camera and everything is, what's it called when every line is read to you? Teleprompter. Teleprompter. And all of a sudden you have to go on your own. And producer in your ear. Tucker forgets somehow that there's a before and after. How many videos have you seen of like, you said this six months ago and then you said this.

35:44You said this two years ago and then you said this. It's like, I don't know if you know how that works. No, the best. I was young and needed the money doesn't work. Exactly. And the last thing I'll say about Hunter, in Hollywood, there's two different types of rehabs. There's, oh, wow, I'm addicted to drugs, Shia LaBeouf, certain people. I got to go to rehab. But then there's the whole industry called reputation rehab, where they clean up your image. It's an image makeover. That's what Hunter's doing right now. I have no clue what Tucker's agenda is. Yeah. So, all right, we'll see. But it ain't smart.

36:15Let's move on. Go to the next story. Next story I want to talk to you about is this. So Sophie Cunningham gets hit with the foul in the head. They turn into a flagrant tool. Girls kicked out. I don't know what the girl's name is. Donji, Donji, you know, whoever she is. Then the coach at the time comes out and says, I don't think she was doing it on purpose. The coach says that. And can you go back so I can say the girl's name properly? I don't want to screw it up because I know. No, go to the second X video you had. Right. What is the name? DeJane. DeJane Carrington. Carrington. And this is DeJane.

36:45This is go back a little bit to show the previous. go all the way to the front. This is how she plays. Look. Damn, girl. She's obviously very sweet. She doesn't at all have any negative integrity at all. She doesn't hit hard. And, you know, she plays very clean basketball. Another white privilege. And watch what she does to the eyes. You see? Goes through the eyes. Yeah. So you can pause it right there. So you can pause it right there. So then the coach says, no, I don't think she would ever do anything dirty. She would never do that. The internet goes after her. Then she's like, wait a minute.

37:14How dare you guys call me out and say the fact that, you know, I didn't even see the foul. I didn't see it. She says I did not see the foul in her message. And there's a video of her. Go to the previous one that shows I did not see the foul. And I want you to hear this message. She's getting destroyed right now on the Internet and well-deserved. Watch this. Go back, play this clip. Watch this. She says I couldn't see it. I didn't see the play in the last game. I didn't see the play in real time. That's her in the back. You sure about that? You sure about that? Straight to a press conference. So you can pause it right there.

37:47And that's her right there in the picture. That's her in the back, and that's the foul. What do you mean you can't see the foul? Unbelievable. And she says she got a better view than some of the referees got. And then this is how she comes and cries on TV about the criticism she got. How dare people on social media call her out? Go for it. What I pride myself on is my relationships with players. For those who have anything to say about the play in the last game, I didn't see the play in real time. I went straight to a press conference. I thought the play got called right. Thankfully, Sophie's okay.

38:17Yeah. Was it egregious? Absolutely. When you have a chance to watch that over and over and over on replay, you can see that. I didn't have that in real time. Oh, really? That's you behind. Unbelievable. I take personally any suggestions that I don't 100 % always have my players back. Stop lying. I ride with them 10 toes down all the time. All the time. They know that. Oh, yeah, for sure. It's a shame that we can't have an opportunity to talk about what great basketball they're playing. Nobody cares about the basketball. Because they are playing. Go all the way to the last 20 seconds. United, every day these women put their ass on the line.

38:57And you didn't protect them. Every day. When they go low, we go high. Love will win. Love will win. Grace will win. Grace. Humility will win. Look at the grace that's about to show up. And kindness will win. Kindness. Here comes kindness. I stand by them. I will always stand by them. Amen. Everybody else can go to hell. Oh. Oh. Kindness. Wait a minute. So, you know what? We need kindness. Brace. They go high. You go, you know. Brace. Sounds like a wholesome person. Hey, by the way, go to hell. And then you leave. You know. Walking, talking, contradiction. Tom ran a poll. And the poll was, do you view this as a sincere statement by Stephanie White, the coach?

39:34Yeah. Vote one of them. Just pick one of them. 77.4 % said no. 100 % forced take, 75 % forced take, 25 % forced fake, and then you got, you know, yes, it's real, 4.3%. Tom, your thoughts, when you hear a coach like this who got called out by media by trying to BS and allegedly trying to protect her player, Sophie, who got a flagrant two, all the referees agreed that was a flagrant two, the girl got kicked out, and then she says white privilege, and now she's coming out realizing she was wrong and she reacts this way. Your thoughts? I've seen a lot of apologies, and you've seen apologies, Pat. We've been part of businesses where a CEO had to apologize to a board, to their employees.

40:16I don't need a piece of paper in front of me that I keep glancing down at and to be performative with my emotion. I come in, and I can make an apology. I know what I'm apologizing for. No one has to write it for me. They can remind me, remember, make sure you say the names of people so that they know you're sincere. Don't get emotional. Don't get over it. She comes in here in performative anger, and I look at it this way. This is not an apology. This is justification, an excuse wrapped in emotion with performative outrage. That's what I think. And she's glancing at the paper there. You know, sincere apologies don't need a one-pager that was likely written by, I'll say likely, I don't know, likely written by the fever PR flack and likely approved by the league.

41:02Every statement that goes out here, the league wants the uproar to stop, but they like the eyeballs. But this is going over the waterfall, and I look at it this way. If I was on the board, I would be saying to the CEO, you know what? I think this thing has gone over the waterfall here, and I think we need to make a change. We need to make a change in leadership. And if I was an owner of the Fever, I would fire her. I would as well. I would say, I don't think that was. If you can't back up the players, what are we doing? That's exactly right. And to go to her and say, I appreciate you do the press conference.

41:33I appreciate you wanted to make a statement. But in the statement saying you don't see it there and now we're getting slammed, you are wearing the Fever logo. You are sitting at a press conference in front of our logo and in front of Gainbridge and Lexus, our key sponsors, are on the logo and the board behind you. They're our partners. And you are caught red-handed. You're standing in front of the people that have courtside front row seats looking right into the play unobstructed. You can't do this, Stephanie. Stephanie, I'm really sorry. We're done here. That's what my board discussion. And that was a question I was going to ask is if you guys own a company and she's the one.

42:15She's the same. By the way, doesn't stick up for her players. When Caitlin Clark was sitting there covering her face, embarrassed that the words were coming out of her mouth, And then think about this. You care about your players. You're willing to have men. Because remember when they were asked about trans men playing in the freaking league? She was like, hey, I'm not a professional. I'm not a doctor. I wouldn't know how to respond to that. So you'd even be cool. You love women. They're doing so good to have dudes, because that's what they are, dudes in the locker room with these girls. If it was her way.

42:46It's just, again, every single day they keep giving us more stuff to talk about how bad. She's defending the league, and now she goes out and slaughters herself. And FYI, again, all of this is the WNBA's fault. Yep. All of this. Amen. All the WNBA had to do is we test everyone for their DNA, for what you are. It's not a hard test to do. You can do it with a swab. You can do it with many different ways to find out what you are. And we are an organization for women only. But because the WNBA wants to play politics and try to win the woke and all this other stuff, they're getting destroyed right now.

43:24and well-deserved. My speculation, like I said the other day, is I believe the WNBA has a bigger problem. I believe the WNBA currently has multiple men that play in the league that they're worried if that gets leaked, it'll be embarrassing. It'll be embarrassing. Speculation. This is not for a fact. Speculation. That either currently or in the past they had it, they don't want to bring it up, and they're worried if that does take place, how bad it'll be for them. Adam. I'm excited for the WNBA. I mean, we're living in an eyeball culture. Attention wins. They're getting the attention that they deserve.

44:01And you know how we say the future looks bright here? I believe the future looks bright for the WNBA. 2027 is going to be the best year in the WNBA history. Why? They already have two of the most brave, beautiful women that have declared for the WNBA draft. I'm talking about these beautiful, courageous women, NS Freedom and Royce White. beautiful brave women who potentially hopefully could get drafted by the wnba and tell me who doesn't want to see we talked about this last week it's not going to happen i want you to why won't it happen i want you to specifically have anything to say about this coach or not if not we'll move on to the next look the the coach is prioritizing the agenda yeah over the player yep you think she cares about the player maybe but trust that she cares way more about this agenda You know who I actually got to give credit to that I very rarely give credit to?

44:52Do you know Jason Whitlock? Remember this guy? And anytime there's an argument, I'm more on the Stephen A side than Jason Whitlock. But I'll give him credit. He goes, guys, this isn't about the trans thing. He goes, you have to understand the foundation of the league, the foundation of the WNBA is built by black lesbian women, period. and those black lesbian women are not going to bend the knee to any of this because they are fully fully aligned with the trans agenda so if each of the players imagine you have how many players on a team 12 players on a team and 11 out of the 12 players on the team are like 10 toes down on this trans thing yep they're not going to deviate so for every one sophie cunningham you have 10 dejeuner whatevers that are going to rip your hair out or rip your face out for this agenda.

45:46All right. So let's talk about the next story, Fauci. Fauci's story comes out. Folks, this is going to piss some of you guys off. And I don't blame you if you do get pissed off. Okay. And these stories that come out, I'll read one of them to you. Fauci texts about vax miscarriage risk. Don't line up with public statements. What? Yep. Fauci. Text shows Fauci, Surgeon General, CDC chief worried about miscarriages after second COVID vaccine doses. Did you tell the world about it? Did you tell the American people about it? Did you say it before all of a sudden we got 71 plus percent of Americans that got the shot?

46:31So let me read it to you. Text message from Dr. Anthony Fauci. Government phone shows he privately worried COVID-19 vaccination could cause miscarriage in pregnant women. while publicly insisting there were no red flags in January 2021. Fauci told then CDC Director Rochelle Walensky and Income Insurgeon General Vivev Murthy that the significant cytokines storm and fever after a second mRNA dose could theoretically be associated with miscarriage in first trimester. Murthy raised his concern about the mRNA causing mutations in the developing fetus, then flagged the World Health Organization advising pregnant women against the Moderna shot.

47:11Days later, Fauci publicly stressed multiple times there were no red flags for pregnant women, eventually saying it's pretty clear they should be vaccinated. He never publicly mentioned the miscarriage possibility. Republican Senators Ron Johnson of Wisconsin and Rand Paul of Kentucky released a text after Department of Health and Human Services turned over Fauci's phone containing roughly 34 ,000 text messages, 500 voicemails, fewer than a dozen messages are public so far. NIH directly, Jay Bacharia told Fox News the gap between private and public comments explains he wrote a trust. He didn't share those private thoughts with the American public.

47:47And Bill Ackman came out. And Vinny, I'm going to come to you right afterwards. Bill Ackman came out and tweeted this. And Vinny, you shared this with me. Yeah, look at what he wrote. He said, Neri and I, this is his wife, I believe, had seven miscarriages trying to have a second child during COVID. and then the time ran out. WTF, what's he thinking? Vinny? I mean, every single day, and I love that. I know other, I guess states are starting to get cases up against him. And if I hear one more person from Cuomo or anybody, anybody, trying to stick up for this guy, kiss my butt. I am sick and tired of all these people going, he's 80, he's this, he's that.

48:33No, no. He knew all these problems, guys. He lied about everything. OK, everything. And then you hear Bill Ackman, his wife, they're like they tried. Guys, not one time, not four, five, seven times trying to have a baby and it's over because of him. OK, and this is the video right. Can you play this one? This is this is him saying it's pretty clear that pregnant women should get vaccinated. OK, he's in secret talking crap saying don't you know, there's going to be problems. There's going to be miscarriages. But this is his attitude. Go ahead, Connor. However, when you look at the unvaccinated versus the vaccinated, there is absolutely no increased risk of that.

49:13So because of that, the CDC and the ACOG, the American College of Obstetrics and Gynecology, who used to say it is OK for them, for pregnant women to get vaccinated, to change now and say it is recommended pregnant women get vaccinated. So it's really one of those things that's kind of not a close call. It really is pretty clear that pregnant women should get vaccinated. And they text, they exchange a text before this video. Before saying, don't listen. It's like there's problems. So think about how many mothers out there that are probably even listening to this podcast would have made a different decision if you knew what he was texting her, Wolinski, in private text.

49:55Okay? Women were making decisions, Tom, about their pregnancies based on the information that he was doing, this trusted expert, Mr. Science, and I'm tired of another thing. People are like, well, Trump, no, this is the bureaucracy. These are the people, the deep state people, the FBI agents that are underneath him when he came in that were all there to destroy Trump and destroy America, the fabric of our society. These are them. And then Jeffrey Tucker, writer, he was the biggest guy against everything that he said about lockdowns and everything else. He just said that top FDA and NIH quietly officials admitted the real reason for everything that he did, the lockdowns, the masking, the social distancing, was to delay the onset of natural immunity so they could push the freaking jab.

50:42Tom, think about that, okay? Keeping us from natural immunity because as he said in the past, if you have the flu, you don't got to get vaccinated because the best thing to fight it is having the flu. So he knows that. He knows what this was. but he kept everybody away on purpose, everybody away so they could be like, hey, guys, we got to jab everybody. It's unbelievable, Tom. That's why there needs to be a constitutional amendment. This preemptive pardon nonsense is ridiculous. This guy belongs in prison. He belongs to go on trial. And if found guilty for what he's done, crimes against humanity, he has to get the freaking death penalty.

51:20End of story. Or else another one of these guys is going to happen again, Tom. Tom, thoughts? It doesn't surprise me that more and more hard evidence is coming out that Anthony Fauci was a complete hypocrite. He's a hypocrite that became hippo-rich. And what happened here is he was protecting the pharma industry that was making billions on this stuff. Billions and billions a month. Go look at the numbers. It was billions a month. So, number one. So, this doesn't surprise me, the hypocrisy. The second part of it is America should take a look and just look at the level of harm that has happened and that have our legislators and our elected officials do the right thing here.

52:02I mean, there's a Calci with a million and a half, Pat, that says who will be charged with a federal crime this year? Anthony Fauci is at 54 percent. Federal crime would be really hard to get, but there's people that have put millions on Koushi up staying. They think there's a 54 % chance, and they're willing to put their own hard-earned money down there on a prediction. Look at this, that they think he's going to be charged, yet he's carrying this long-term pardon dating back to 2014. And that's what's shocking to me. What's shocking to me is that is the level of silence of everybody but the Rand Pauls and the people that were with him in that hearing.

52:45That is what's shocking to me is the rest of the people in an elected office who cannot look back and say, we got this call wrong. The evidence is here. By the way, you have seen and I can show you books that have been written where I'll be a district attorney. You'll be the public defender. We're talking to each other. A guy gets arrested, Vinny, and I say, hey, Vinny, judge is going to assign you this guy, this kid with the gun charge. He's been charged, and I'm charging him because I got the evidence here, but he's got nobody. You're going to be the public defender. What else you got? This is all I got.

53:19And we will collaborate and see evidence come forward and go, wait a minute. Our minds change here. We need to drop the charge. And so it goes back and forth. So there is no – many of these people that are elected officials are lawyers by trade. There is no sin to come forward and say, we have now seen more. This is wrong. This shouldn't have been a pardon. We really need to dive into this. And 18 years old, legal age, or 88, he needs to face the music. And right now just sitting there taking the fifth, this just shows just how bad it is. But the silence of everybody that sat at that hearing around Rand Paul to me is a greater crime today.

54:00Because you have an opportunity to reassure America that next time when Congress is voting on what? The lockdowns and everything? No, no. Before he ever got the pardon, what did they give the pharma industry? Immunity. Immunity. Until 2072 or whatever the year is. Yeah, until 2074, whatever the year was. And think about the line, Pat. Think about the line. Tom, you got COVID. You got COVID, Tom, okay? And it was really, really bad, right? It was a real disease, and it was really bad. And imagine if all the lies, Tom, if you were on ivermectin or hydrochloroquine and you weren't scared of taking it.

54:40They wouldn't give me ivermectin or hydrochloroquine. My own doctor was in favor of it, but the hospital that I was at said that their corporate policy was that that was not a viable treatment and not an allowed treatment. because they didn't want the liability of treating with it. I went through it personally. Well, imagine you're the everyday American back during COVID. You don't know what to make of any of this. You're scared. You're confused. You're unsure. And the one person that you're supposed to rely on, the one person who you said, all right, this guy actually knows what he's doing, was Dr.

55:15Anthony Fauci. And wow, did he let us down. You know, the famous JFK quote, ask not what your country can do for you, what you do for your country. He probably should have read that a lot more because it seems like he was way more concerned with his own image and being on the cover of magazines and being the hottest guy alive. So there's how many deadly sins? Seven deadly sins. For me, there's pride. You know what's above pride? There's hubris, excessive pride. I'm the best nobody's better than me look at me I deserve everything I'm important I'm famous and if you told me at the time that that's what was going through Fauci's mind I go that's crazy that who thinks like that in the middle of a pandemic when the whole country in the whole world is relying on you but sadly enough that's what his mindset was that's crazy and last thing if you're Bill Ackman or if you're any person that's trying to start a family If you have a miscarriage, oh, man, that's tough.

56:16You have seven miscarriages, and now you no longer have a second child or, God forbid, even a first child because Dr. Anthony Fauci recommended something that turned out not to be true. Ooh-wee. There's a special place in health. And by the way, thank God Bill Ackman is a billionaire and famous. How about the other people that are not? How about the regular day-to-day person that if they post this, they get two likes, one comment, and, you know, 17 comments, and nobody pays attention to it. There were so many people that went through this, and it was so painful. And God forbid if you were to say, I think it's because of the vaccine.

56:51No, you can't say it. It would never do it. It would never do it. The Buffalo Bills player passed out, and all these athletes are passed. It's got nothing to do with it. You cannot at all. I'm like, dude, relax. Maybe it does. And that reaction is what pissed everybody off to say, how do you know? How do you know? And so that is why, to me, when we were going through the 2024, one of the top five things that was very important to me is accountability for Fauci. Because if you want to increase the trust in the FBI, in the CIA, in the U.S. government, the way you increase the trust is by there actually being accountability for when the government gets it wrong.

57:29If you don't do that, it's going to keep declining and declining and declining, regardless whether the president is Republican or Democrat. Let me get to the next story. Brad Pitt, one of my favorite actors of all time. God knows how many times I've seen Micho Black. I watched Billy being Moneyball two days ago, and I've seen that movie 40 times. I think, honestly, Brad Pitt is so recognized for being the sexiest, best-looking guy that people forget how great of an actor the guy is. Like, literally, go back to Legends of the Fall. Go back to A River Runs Through It. Go back to so many freaking things.

58:00Troy, we watched Troy a few weeks ago. Fight Club. Guys, phenomenal. Story comes out about Brad Pitt drinking again. Okay? Story comes out about Brad Pitt drinking again. I want to go to the page, page 11. And exclusive inside Brad Pitt's very personal decision to start drinking again after seven years of sobriety. His life changed. And so Brad Pitt drinking again. Why would he start drinking? There was a couple comments about this that I read in a few different stories. But after seven years, Brad Pitt is drinking again and says he knows his limits. This is a very personal decision that's unique to Brad and his own circumstances.

58:39As the source told Page Six, over time his life changed and he reached a point where he felt comfortable making a different choice for him. That means moderation and being very conscious of his limits. The decision doesn't take away from the years he spent sober. The 60-year-old Oscar winner revealed the change in Esquire interview published Monday. I was sober for seven years. Then I got back off the wagon, he explained, and he now drinks in a more restrained manner. I got overconfident a couple times when, yep, nope, not good for me. He can have a few drinks, but not a lot. to be a professional about it.

59:09Pitt quit drinking after his 2016 split with Angelina Jolie, telling Dax Shepard's Armchair Expert podcast last year that his first AA meeting found him pretty much on my knees. The couple's eight-year divorce battle ended in December of 2024, which, by the way, I think a fourth kid just recently changed her last name to Jolie and dropped Pitt. Imagine as a father how painful that is to continue to happen. And I think one of the things he said is the reason why he started drinking again was because of personal reasons, personal life, personal things that he's experiencing. And then the story comes out with Conor McGregor and alcohol sobriety in support of Brad Pitt.

59:48This is another story that just was dropped. There are two empty seats on the wagon. Conor McGregor got wind of Brad Pitt's decision to consume alcohol again and said he'll drink to that. The former UFC champion who opened up a sobriety leading up to last six months, Max Holloway's fight, announced his Audible Tuesday saying fellow actor inspired him to have a couple of pints of Ford Stout, the brand he launched in 2020. I've decided to have a few pints of the world's creamiest. So whether this is a marketing stunt or not, it is not for Brad Pitt. Brad Pitt is officially back drinking, according to the story.

1:00:23So, Vinny, for somebody, you haven't had a lick of alcohol for a little over three years. Three years and three months, I think. 39 months, give or take. So you haven't had any of it June, July. May 31st. May 31st of 2023 is the last time you had alcohol. When you hear this story with Brad Pitt, and you've been disciplined for all this time, and your life has changed completely, how do you process this story? I mean, I can only imagine that the relationship with Angelina, you know, because he was with Jennifer Anderson, married at the time. This happened. Life is, you know, life is not doing well.

1:01:02You know, AA meetings and all that stuff. He's down on his knees. And then you get over it, Pat, and then everything's going. Because once you're an alcoholic, like once you have that in you, like my father, his father, grandpa, it's in us, that addictive personality. It's going to be in you. So when people go, oh, I'm not an alcoholic anymore. No, no, you're always going to be an alcoholic, so to speak. But there's different types of alcoholics. There's the ones that have to wake up and drink. That's just you have to because it's in your body or something's going to happen. Then there's just the, like, you know, casual, I'm going to have one.

1:01:31I know how to control it. Which one do you think he is right now? I think, well, depending on how this is going to happen, I'm really hoping it's just going to be like a wine or, you know, something with dinner or a meal. but the sounds of it like listen it sounds like he's like i'm off the wagon listen i don't i don't think when you have problems like that and you're going through it that poisoning yourself is the answer and it's never going to be the answer when people that's just a crutch that's going to keep happening and who knows because listen once that that ball starts rolling down the hill pat you're not going to be able to control how fast it's going to go saying it and i hope to god it stays just wine i don't know what he what what he drinks or how big of a drinker he is but i know for a fact like there's no there's nothing there's no problem that's going to like want me to go back to that because I know what the outcome is going to be and a lot of people I've heard this so many times I can control it I'm better than it I have a grasp it's not going to be what you think and those people to me are the ones that the majority of the time that I know from my experience fall off uh the hardest and I feel for that I'm with you one of the best one of the best at it I can only can you imagine imagine some of these kids he adopted from like Cambodia like can you imagine you're adopting these people you're getting them out of freaking poverty and now you want to change your last name as if i didn't have nothing to do with you like you would have still been in freaking cambodia you know i mean so you know i can only imagine what he's going through but my my prayers are going to be for him and i hope it doesn't get as bad as it's supposed to be i have three quick thoughts number one i cannot imagine what it would be to have your children being manipulated to taking the identity away from them in the form of your name after all the things you did for them and you've adopted them and everything like that.

1:03:12Even none of us are perfect people. None of us are perfect. So number one, I cannot imagine what that's like, the stress. Number two, I could see how it might take you back. I don't know how he looked at himself as a full alcoholic or a problem drinker or he was trying to go to AA to counter the claims that you drink too much and maybe he wasn't a categorized alcoholic. I don't know that. but he was very very open about it and I and my third point is when you're under great stress you got to be careful you dance with the devil he bites hard and I hope that the stress of going through point one with his kids is not leading him to make a compromise point two that leads to other problems um when you when you have great stress I believe you need to get to great friends and the foundation of a great faith.

1:04:03And I think that needs to be your foundation through it. You shouldn't turn to, I think, self-medication of any form. But I applaud the fact that he's out here being open about it so that people can see into, say, wow, maybe if a famous person is having this, maybe I need to reflect on things I'm doing. Maybe I don't need to do this. So I think him being public about it is hopefully helping people cope and not giving people green lights to drink, but I can see the trigger he's talking about. Life is all about moderation. If you're able to moderate your drinking, I don't have a problem with somebody having a couple glasses of wine.

1:04:45What I've realized in my many, many years of partying in South Beach and going out, and I've been to enough events and parties for 10 lifetimes, is how much do you want to turn up the dial? What I've recognized is like one time Vinny came out with me. He went volume 10. I'm like, slow down, buddy. You know, the way I live my life, and this is me about moderation. You're going to publicly tell the time he was dancing on the stage. I'm not going to put it out there. And taking his clothes off and the girls and all that stuff. Why would you put his business on? That goes, I would. As you do, my shirt is slowly going off.

1:05:17Take it off, baby. They cut to me and I'm just like, yeah. Put it this way. The world is a lot better with Vinny not drinking, and the world is a lot safer with Adam not driving. Amen. So what I would say is if you're going to have a few drinks, I look at things as a volume dial. I like to keep my volume at a three to a four, have a couple of drinks. That's fine because I can do that. I'm a moderate type person. I moderate my activities. Some people, when they go, they go. And the reality is, he said, I can have a more restrained manner of drinking. I'll just make one suggestion to the Brad Pitts of the world, to the Tony Romas of the world, the Tiger Woods of the world.

1:05:54Don't drink and drive. Just do that. I don't care how messed up you get. do not get behind the wheel of a car and turn into Wolf of Wall Street, Leonardo DiCaprio trying to get home on Quaaludes, bro. But here's the thing, though. He had a major problem with drinking. I get where you're coming from, but if you had to go to AA, Adam, it's a serious drinking problem. It's not like he was like, yeah, I'm going to stop. If you were that guy and now you're like, well, I'm back, it's like the comparison path is like, you can't do that. You can't. Look, does he give you the vibes that he has real close friends that love him?

1:06:31Yeah. Brad Pitt, yeah. I would think so. He gives me that vibe. I think so. Does he give you the vibe that he's the guy you love? You're like, man, that's my boy. That's the guy I'm rooting for. Picks up the phone all the time. He gives me that vibe. So I don't know. In life at this phase, a guy like him, he has a handful of people that will tell him exactly what he needs to hear and who he respects. I hope those people are giving him the right feedback because you're going to have some people that are going to give the feedback that he gave, which is what, don't worry about it, moderation, all this other stuff.

1:07:02Not everybody has the moderation DNA. Some people have the hardcore, obsessive, hypomanic, super, you know, like, hey, you know, we're going to go. Like if you're going to go, you're going to go. You can't do that. You can't mess with it. So I don't like it. I don't like the story. I actually didn't want to read the story because I don't like hearing stories like this. I don't like hearing a guy like him going through a phase like this. I think what could get this to settle down is a good girl. Now, how you find that nowadays in Hollywood and knowing everybody wants you because of your looks and sexy and all this stuff, it's going to be very hard.

1:07:39But to all the young people that are watching this or fathers, mothers, man, And talk to your kids about who they marry. And don't talk to them about it when they start dating somebody. Talk to them about it way in advance before they start dating. When they're 13 years old, when they're 12 years old. I'm talking about my daughter's boyfriend, and she's 10 years old, and she doesn't have one. I'm talking to her of what's going to happen when men start flirting with her and how to pick them good. And what happens. And we need to have those conversations early because one bad girl can destroy your life.

1:08:19To me, Angelina Jolie, when I watched the movie Original Sin, I don't think she was acting. I think that was her. I watched the movie. I'm like, oh, my God. She destroyed Antonio Banderas' life. Have any one of you guys seen this movie or no? Back in the day, like 20 years ago. Do you remember the movie or no, Vinny? Of course. Original Sin. Ridiculous. Very good. She was the most gorgeous woman. Yeah, she was. She was on that list of gorgeous women, but that's a part of it. That's another one of those. That's a part of it. So, you know, you know who could potentially help Brad Pitt out? Jennifer Aniston.

1:08:53And I don't know if she drinks or not. If she's living a better life. I don't know. I mean, that was the – sometimes it's like a different kind of a love, you know, that you have that maybe can make that fun. You can't go backwards like that. Look what happened to Ben Affleck. I'm not in the business of what they like personally. I'm just saying, like, whatever they want to do, they can do. But let me get to the next story. Next thing I'm going to get into is the following. AOC is officially dominating Newsom. You know why? Because Newsom looked around and said, hey, let me try this getting to the left of center and bring Charlie Kirk on and Steve Bannon on and Bill and these conservatives, Hannity's on, and maybe that's going to get me to be seen more moderate.

1:09:36He was headed in the right direction. That was the strategy for him to be a president. But he doubted himself, and he said, no, let me be a socialist. Newsom said, let me be a socialist. I'm going to join because AOC is my leader. That's what Newsom said privately and publicly. When he said, I think we need to make wealth tax, not just a state thing. Damn it, we need to bring you to every American in America because the top 10 % of Americans own 90 % of all the stocks. He just said that. The moment he said that, I said, what a big mistake. Officially, your leader is AOC, and I said this a year and a half ago, when you know you're watching this, when you're watching a podcast, and Tom was fighting me hard, throwing pens at me.

1:10:20I said, AOC is going to be the one for Democrats. You're out of your mind. I would get my next, you're crazy. You don't know what you're talking about. You've lost it. What happened to the good old days where PBD was a pa-pa-pa-pa-pa? I didn't tell you she's going to be president. I just said she's going to be the candidate for the left. She is. and you have to know the DSA is out there. And you know what happens? Calci comes out and you know what Calci does. Listen, nowadays you got to trust where people are putting their monies at. Not telling you it's 100%, you know, where you go by it and this is it.

1:10:55But this is officially the first time. You see the blue? Can you zoom in a little bit so people know how competition works? See the blue? Look at – go to the peak of the difference between blue and green. At one point it was 37%. About a year ago. To 9.6, and that's less than a year ago, Vinny. That's 10 months ago. Yeah, V. And nine months ago, all of a sudden, boom, AOC takes over, and AOC is officially first place ahead of Newsom because Newsom became a socialist. What a sweetheart you are. Yeah. And he's not. By the way, deep down inside, he's not a socialist. Of course he's not. Deep down inside, he's a center left that can get along behind closed.

1:11:33You know who he is? You know how Hunter Biden and Tucker talk behind closed and say, can you give me something like that? Of course. That's who Newsom is. 100%. Newsom probably hung out with Republicans and hanging out. His wife was, you know, he used to be married to, what's her name? Kim Guilfoy. Kim Guilfoy. He was married to a dying beautiful, best-looking couple. So he hung out, and then all of a sudden he's like, hey, one advisor or one dumb thought, maybe I got to be a socialist. So, Tom, you follow this stuff very closely. By the way, I take a lot of shots, and I'm having fun with Tom.

1:12:03If you guys didn't see the video, maybe we'll show the video to you guys of what happened yesterday. See you on president. Apparently a lot of people liked it. But I will tell you, behind closed doors, you guys don't hear this. I hear this. The people who do polls privately talk about the one name that they trust a lot nowadays with polls and making predictions is Tom Ellsworth. That's where I go. And a lot of people see – now, he got it wrong with AOC. But aside from – That's fine. That's fine. He's not – For the most part, you've got to pay attention to what he's got to say. Tom, how do you process this?

1:12:35So I process it. You know, I'll give bullet points on what you were talking about. What Pat was talking about. And we have the image right here. We don't need to play it. But you see the image on screen. That was Gavin Newsom. I believe that was June 26. Puts on a suit and tie sitting there in the office, you know, books behind him. A different look for Gavin Newsom. And he took more than one step toward DSA and the socialist side. Why? Because he saw what was happening to him in prediction markets and in polling. He wasn't surging out to be the de facto presumed candidate. So he was doing that while AOC was keeping an even keel.

1:13:12Did she run away from DSA? She did not. But did she kind of just lean toward establishment and try to level it out and obviously was getting coaching and suddenly her answers were a little less, you know, different than we were used to? Yes, that started happening. And then, Pat, last week, what did the Democrat establishment do in the last 30 days with Hong? It was like, get away from us. Get away from us. And they ran to the establishment candidate, and he won by a whisker, right? By a whisker at night. By point something. By point something, right? That's exactly what happened. So what is going on right now is Gavin Newsom chose wrong to lean toward DSA a little bit because he wanted to make it like, let's make a big advantage.

1:13:59He made a mistake. He flinched. Big mistake. And AOC was getting coached. And she then this week says, well, maybe Woke 1.0 was a little crazy. She's stepping back from where she was with the new green team and everything that she went with that. No, the squad and the new green energy. Right. New Green Deal, all of that. She's leaning back toward the establishment. Why? At the same time, the establishment is going against Hong. And now what you have traditional polling. There's going to be a reckoning, Pat. There's going to be a reckoning. Traditional polling on a national basis because of her existing presidential machine that is still in place, but on idle is you still have Dems.

1:14:44Rasmussen ran 2 ,000 Democrats, likely voters, and they span states. They still have Harris at 30 points, Newsom at 13, and AOC at 10. But the prediction markets are running ahead of it. And I think what's about to happen, Pat, we're having a reconciliation of the old polling and increasingly difficult times they have getting a hold of people, clipboards in front of Walmart. You know what I mean, Pat? It's increasingly hard to get good polls that way, and the prediction markets are here. And I believe right now we have seen the tipping point. Will it stay tipped? But I call AOC the Democrat candidate frontrunner by a whisker right now.

1:15:29We'll see how it shakes out. You're so funny. No, no, no. I'm saying it's numerically. Numerically. This is the— Okay. No, I'm saying this despite the other regular polls out because Kamala Harris went out— You finally converted Tom. Yes. But, Pat, yesterday. Did I convert you or no? Be honest. You led with this thing, and I followed that, and I think you did influence me. Yeah. Absolutely. I can't say no. But let me. So I want to ask you a question, Tom. This is the part that Tom is very good at. I want to show you guys something here. I want to ask you guys four things, and I want you to score it 0 to 10.

1:16:03I'm not messing around. I know you're not, Tom. And people don't know how we are behind closed doors. We're like this 24-7. I want to ask you. I want you to score them, okay, each of these things. Zero to ten. Okay. How much do you think the market respects AOC versus Newsom? Zero to ten. So say like nine, eight. Which market? Establishment Democrats? The Democrats. Just go to the majority of the Democrats. Don't just put her following. Just Democrats. Just put the market. Everybody. Everybody. Everybody. Respects her? Respect. And we're judging AOC versus Newsom only. Yes. Zero to ten. Go. Oh, versus Newsom?

1:16:37Yes. Oh, okay. So everybody. Yes. Got it. Okay. Okay, go. Respect. AOC versus Newsom. What is yours? What do you give respect to AOC? Over Newsom, eight. So AOC, you give eight. What do you give Newsom? Five. I'm 8-5. The Democrat voters. So what's your Newsom? So Tom is 8-5. What are you? 8-5. Okay, you're also 8-5. Where are you? I'm 7-4. You're 7-4. AOC, seven. Perfect. Newsom, four. Watch how this is going to go. Likeability, zero to 10. AOC, Newsom. Likeability. You're going to see my score on this. Likeability? Likeability? Yes. 9-3. Nine Tom, three Newsom. I agree. Newsom has become not likable.

1:17:18He effed up royally. And his resume's not. What do you give? He attacked Trump. I give nine two. Nine two? He's a serpent. What do you give him? Seven three. Okay, so stay seven three. Fair. Fear. Who do you think is feared? Like, oh, shit, man, I better not cross her. I better not cross him because he or she and their following is capable of coming after me. and they're strong, loyal, devout fear. What do you score? Eight, eight, and another three. Okay. Because she has a follow. You're right. Where do you put it, Tom? I put it at 9-2. Chuck Schirmer's people have leaked that he is scared shitless of her running for his tennis.

1:17:54Give me Adam. I'm at 7-2. Perfect. You're staying the same place. Now, talent. The ability to debate. Talent. That's it. This changes now. Okay. Talent, ability to debate. Go ahead. 5-8. Okay. He's okay, but she doesn't have it. It might even be lower. 8-4, but her 4 is improving. Oh, no, no, 4-8, Tom. The other way. I got you. Adam, go ahead. Newsom, 11. Yep. Because he's just the most talented lying politician ever. Yeah. And she's a 5. Okay. And then last but not least, loyal following, influence, social media, all of that. AOC, Newsom. 8-8, AOC. Uh-huh. She has him, ride or die. and to me that he's sounding with him, three.

1:18:41Okay. Flip flop. What do you go with, Tom? What do you go? No, we're talking social media. I'm 10-2. Okay. And then Adam? I have AOC at eight. There's some people that disagree with her and I have Newsom as a one. I don't know anybody that goes, that's my guy. So to help me understand. Do the score. You want to add him up? No, no, it's not. Guys, it's a sleep. She blew it. It's a runaway. It's the only thing. The only thing, if she was my girl, my candidate. She's available these days. I'm just saying for the single gentleman out there. I'm talking about, I know she is, and they had a breakup, and somebody asked her questions yesterday.

1:19:11She says, I really don't like to address any personal matters of my life. Oh, right. But let me jab myself. You were jabbing yourself on IDS. That's normal. Let me freeze my legs. She's used to getting hit by. This was it yesterday. Play 10 seconds of it. It's not a long video. Are you and Riley Roberts still together? I don't comment on my private life. Thank you. Your mother once said she loves Riley and wants to see you guys get married. Is she going to get her wish? Again, I don't comment on my private. Okay, you can pause it right there. Is there anything I will stab myself in the belly? The number one thing she needs to do is go higher, the best of the best.

1:19:51Historian from the right. She needs a historian that's the right to help her out. She needs to bring a debate person from the right, not the left. She needs to bring people that she is sitting there coaching her. how to debate, how to have these positions, she's going to have to go through all of this. And it needs to happen yesterday. And if that will be the only reason why she doesn't end up winning, it won't be because of all the other stuff. It will be only because of debate. If she's able to show up in the two primaries, she's the candidate. So she needs the coaching. I don't know who's doing the coaching on the back end to her.

1:20:27That kind of came out the wrong way. I don't know who was, like, coaching her properly to get her ready on the political stuff. But, you know, I think if she has that, I think she's got a shot, and she's formidable. He has a better organization raising money, but that's something to be corrected once they see the momentum. You have to be likable, Tom. You have to be likable. You don't got that. You know, you have to. When Ben and I were having this conversation the other day, he said something that says people respect me, but people love, you know, Tucker. He's got a like following. You have to.

1:20:58We put a very low score on likability. But in these types of moments, you need to have a very high score of likability. You've got to be likable. You've got to be likable. So, yeah, I think this is going to be an interesting situation between the two of them. Calcium market's already, you know, saying what's going to be happening. The market's putting the wager behind AOC. And I've been saying this for a good 18 months now that she's going to be the Democratic candidate. Do you think Gavin peaked too early? Do you think there's time for him to come back? I think he had zero strategy. He did exactly what John Kerry did.

1:21:28He did exactly what John Kerry did. Honestly, you know what we should do? We should send Newsom some Future Looks Bright flip-flops. Yes. I think he would like it. If we send him some Future Looks Bright flip-flops to remind him, yeah, we have Future Looks Bright flip-flops. And by the way, I'm talking about some high-quality flip-flops that we have. That's his Future Looks Bright on it. Yeah, good ones. If you want to go find it, Connor, so people can see it, we have some high, high-quality flip-flops. Send them to him. But that's exactly what this guy, go to search. Just go to search. You don't need to make it hard for yourself.

1:22:01Yeah. That's exactly what this guy did to himself. That's what he did. Watch LeBron James' picture come up. He flip-flopped. And he kept going and going and going. Instead of telling us, what do you stand for? He couldn't do it. He couldn't do it. Go a little bit lower. That one right there. Click on that one. That one sells out. Every time it comes out, middle one, the middle one. American ones? Look at that one. Those are sick. That goes instantly. Every time. Surprised we have them right now. These slides go like this. Those are gel. on the bottom is the most comfortable flip-flops. Newsom, you've got to worry this because it shows you love America and it shows that you believe the future looks bright, but he messed up.

1:22:38And by the way, some people are going to say it's his camp's fault. No. You have to stand tall. You have to sometimes make the decision that is not what everybody, not the leading indicator. You've got to be the leading indicator that gives a controversial position and everybody says, oh, he's out of his mind, he's crazy. No, you followed, trailed AOC. Massive, massive mistake. Massive mistake that they made. And she's getting set. You want to talk about the breakup? He also went the wrong way. He had the Hillary playbook. Attack Trump, attack Trump. Trump's not on the ballot in 2028. And he mishandled his own scandals.

1:23:14Hillary mishandled her own scandals, the server and everything that went with it. He went into so old school. But can I tell you something, Tom? And didn't make the decision. But let me tell you why I think Hillary did a better job than Newsom. because Hillary at least went against Bernie. Hillary at least knew I'm not a socialist. Hillary at least put her foot down and said, this is what I stand for. She never went toward Bernie to get his voters. No, I get Hillary more. But by the way, you know what Hillary's problem was? What do you think was Hillary's biggest problem? What do you think her score is on likability?

1:23:43The lowest likability score of all time is Hillary. People are scared of her. By the way, no politics. Having dinner with AOC, you think you would actually enjoy the dinner? Absolutely. We'd laugh and act like New Yorkers. Dinner with Hillary Clinton, you would enjoy it. Imagine at Casa D 'Angelo. Can we have some bison? Is that what you're going to order? Go ahead. Yeah. Go ahead. Yeah. It's ladies first, but go ahead if you want to be. Holy shit. Here, I brought some hot spots. I wouldn't touch anything. But AOC would laugh and joke and do this. Likeability, man. Never underestimate the power of likeability.

1:24:15The challenge is, say whatever you want to say about Hillary. She was at least smart and calculated. In my opinion, these female potential candidates, from Hillary to Kamala to AOC are getting more likable but way dumber. You think that AOC would stand a chance on the debate stage versus any credible person? Let me ask you a question. That to me is the problem. How do you do in debates? What's that? How do you do in debates? I'm asking you. How do you do in debates? How do I do in debates? How do we all do in debates? You think we're all like these. It depends on what you're solving. But what I'm saying to you is, can that be taught?

1:24:52Of course. Of course it can be caught. All right. And guess what it takes? You know, people don't realize, I can have somebody that I debate with if people think I sit around and just create content all day. They don't know what I did until 9, 30, 10 o 'clock last night. The emergency meeting we had, that was a phenomenal meeting we had with our executives for three and a half, four hours. It was a great meeting. What I'm trying to tell you is AOC has to prioritize everything towards becoming smarter. She's got to read the Republican positions as well, not the socialist positions. She's got to bring the right people to prep her.

1:25:25She has to, and that can be taught. We put too much value into being smart. You think Trump was the smarter candidate that won? No, Trump knows people. He knows how to show. He knows how to show up. He won people over. Hillary Clinton's likability score is the worst ever. And by the way, Newsom may be the worst trust score ever. He ruined it himself. Like you almost want – like for me, you know what I wanted? I want him in the ring. It's a very weird thing for me because this is a cool sport. I like the sport. I wanted to see Newsom against Rubio or Newsom against J.D. I actually want to see that.

1:26:02I think it's good for television. I feel you. He debated when he debated against it. Because he will fight, but he will be exposed. But Rubio is legit. Rubio is equal. I fully agree with you on the likability. I get that. but there's also policies and I just don't understand how that could go into the general Trump didn't know policies guys Trump is one of one AOC ain't on Trump's level nobody's rapping about AOC nobody has AOC's name on their building Trump is an anomaly but Adam watch this because all the stuff that's happening right now look at how strategic freezing her eggs ex-fiance for 10 years gone you know why?

1:26:40Because he's a tech billionaire they're changing the image Can I tell you something, though? Can I tell you something? Blindspot. Me and AOC follow each other. We've DM'd each other. We've talked to each other. We've seen each other's posts. And every once in a while, I will tell you this, is I don't think America will elect a single woman. I was just going to say that. I don't think they will. I think she needs a relationship. And so the concern to be a single woman with no kids. May I? Sir. instead of being a person in a relationship, the worry that, well, America's going to have the first, what do you call it, not lady, first lady, first gentleman, whatever they call it, I don't think that's an issue.

1:27:24I literally don't think that's an issue today. I don't think it is. I think her being single splits her chances by, you know how much? 50%. My position changes after the breakup if she stays single. She can't stay single. She'll be, and I agree because, and I think this. She needs a relationship. I think her people... She's going to pivot right to somebody else. Oh. They're going to put a plant in there. Well, she froze her eggs for a reason. They're going to bring some guy, Pat, that's probably going to be more conservative, more palatable to the conservative people and the independents, because she has to soften...

1:27:54Guys, she has to soften her language. The image, she has to be more mature than this radical leftist DSA nonsense. That's why I'm telling you right now, they're going to introduce the reasonable, nicer AOC, and then a guy's going to come. This is all... But she needs the guy to be sooner. Like James Fishback, he was with a girl, then we went to a different girl, and then they got married, and then they were having a kid. That timing was a little bit too hurry, okay? Strategically, he is a better campaigner than Byron Donald. He's a better campaigner than Jay Collins, and a better campaigner than, what do you call it, Paul Renner.

1:28:31Policy-wise, I'm more on Renner. Like Renner's, believe it or not, policy-wise, I like Renner on how he presents his stuff. What's his trustworthy score? Trustworthy score would be lower. But he is a very good presenter, right? But to me, AOC can't delay this relationship thing. And maybe there's somebody already in there where she's making a move. Can you just DM her and ask her if she likes funny Assyrian guys? I'll take one for the team. Vinny, what? They go low, we go high. I actually think you guys would get along. AOC needs to. It would be a problem. It wouldn't work out. Obviously. I think on a date, honestly, on a date, you guys will laugh your asses off.

1:29:09Who pays on that date? Wait, wait, wait. I have a message for Elon Musk. He's a man. He'll pay. About AOC being a single president, I have a message for Elon Musk. Ask not what your country can do for you. Right. Ask what you can do for your country. Go for it, Elon. All right. So here we go. Let's go to the next one. Next one I want to get into is the SPLC story. Kind of weird. A little weird. Maybe a lot of weird. Yeah, a lot. So you know this whole Charlottesville that was all the MAGA's fault or right-wing extremists, all this other stuff? What if you were to learn that maybe the people behind Charlottesville, it was really this SPLC thing.

1:29:53That apparently they're supposed to bring blacks and whites together and unify. DOJ charges former Southern Poverty Law Center CFO with fraud. You know when your CFO gets charged with fraud? You know what the CFO knows with finances? Everything. Everything. Okay? And this story, you know who it's written by? Not by Breitbart. Not Daily Caller. Not the, you know, all these other sites, Fox. No, no, this isn't Blaze. This is written by ABC News. So let me read it to you. The Southern Poverty Law Center, former chief financial officer, was arrested Wednesday, charged with fraud, and a superseding indictment accusing her of overseeing fraudulent Donored payments to informants inside hate groups, including one with whom she allegedly had a romantic relationship with and shared a bank account.

1:30:38Heidi Birik, if you can put her up so we can see her face, was arrested in California Wednesday morning and charged with counsel, including conspiracy to commit wire fraud and money laundering. Prosecutors says Birik, who previously led the SPLC hate group track and section, was among several individuals who oversaw payments to people who infiltrated white supremacist groups as informants. The indictment alleges one British Birik approved payments for was an imperial wizard in the Ku Klux Klan. What? What? You can't make this up. What? and that Biric had a romantic relationship with another person.

1:31:15The SPLC paid over a million dollars since 07. Between 2015 and 2021, approximately$140 ,000 in SPLC donor money flowed into a bank account she allegedly shared with that person. So let me ask you, I learned this from Anthony. Would you consider her a rocket? Is she like a rock? She's a dime, obviously. She's gorgeous. She's your type, isn't it? She's more like a bomb. Yeah. In April, the SPLC was charged as an organization with bank fraud and money laundering over the informant payments. Birick is the first named individual charged. Attorney General Todd Blant said the case shows investigators will keep on working it even after the initial indictment.

1:31:51Vinny, thoughts? Connor just said she's a rocket like the shuttle. He's hilarious. But guys, can you like just let wrap your head around this. The irony is unbelievable. For years, she's warning America how these Nazi and white supremacist groups were growing under Donald Trump. It was she was dating an alleged white supremacist Nazi in the freaking KKK or whatever. Well, in her defense, she's going to take whatever she can. Oh, I can't even get mad at that. But beggars can't be choose. I'm an imperial wizard. Fine. Yeah. He's at least he's high. Does he have a male member? I'm in. But I mean, this I just want people to understand this.

1:32:33these organizations, this SPLC, BLM, is it just me or every single thing that the left has done? It's all a lie. From Russia to impeachments to collusion to January 6th, to racism. Guys, understand this. We're constantly told that America is the most racist country ever to exist, and they keep having to manufacturing that racism is here to prove it. Like, everybody's racist. They have to make racism. Manufacture the fracture Thank you So like for instance go back Remember Juicy Smouye Whatever the hell his name is When he said he was attacked by MAGA supporters And turned out the attack Was two black Nigerian brothers Who were in on it allegedly Then there was Bubba Wallace Remember the NASCAR They were told someone left a noose Hanging in his garage FBI determined that the rope had been there From 2019 And it was just for the garage to pull it up or pull it down.

1:33:33How many of these stories, Pat, have to keep on coming? If America is as racist as these people keep telling us, why do they have to keep on making this nonsense up? And think about it. The news cycle is so much. Nobody even gives like I think there's like three people including us that are talking about this story. I'm good for her that she's getting arrested. Accountability is happening. But I just want shout out to America. Okay? America. That everybody says that we're this racist nation. We're not. There's millions and millions and millions of dollars behind it to manufacture the stuff to make everybody think that everybody's hateful in this.

1:34:07No, we're actually a loving, dope country. Yes, there are some racists here left and right. But the main people around it that are pushing it, that are pushing it, are not only paying for it, they're dating the actual Nazis that they're warning us that this country has. So good for you and good for her. I have two thoughts here. The first thought is the DNC Democratic National Committee should just change its name. They can keep DNC because it means dirty tricks never cease. Nice. So, number one. And number two, there is more coming from the Department of Justice for SPLC. The one person you want to get, if you know an organization is really corrupt and you want to take down everyone, you know who you start with?

1:34:46The CFO. You know what they did at Enron? They went after Andy Fastow. And you know who they got? They got Ken Lay and they got Jeff Skilling. And they created a triangle around them, and they got them all. And when you hear the dirty tricks that they played on Andy Fastow, not that he was innocent. We've talked to him, and I think he was doing stuff that everybody else did. But they claim by the letter of the law here, and they really pinched him in a terrible way. The one person you want is the CFO. The CFO knows everything. And the questions will go like this. Okay, how much money was sent here?

1:35:24Yeah. Who approved that? Did the president approve that? Yes, the president approved. I have the email right here where he approved me to send it. Now they got him. This is just the beginning. And I'm glad to see it because SPLC has been not the Southern Poverty Law Center. It has been an arm, almost like, you know, USAID organizations that are out there doing bad things. All it was was a funded organization that was out there doing dirty tricks. But that's my take. I'm not going to go deep on SPLC, Pat. They got the CFO. You know how this works. You know what happens next. Other people are going to come down.

1:35:59You know what happens next. What happens next? Are you, like. Well, she's arrested. She's going to rat on everybody. First of all, so who do you think knows everything? Her. That's it. She's the one. And she knows who approved everything she did. Paper trail of everybody who says send that money to XYZ message to her. Oh, my God. Do you understand? You get her, you get her emails, it's over. It's done. So then she has to either be a whistleblower and talk about all the other stuff that's going on, or she takes the heat. She's a PhD in racism. We'll see what happened here. By the way, I want to cover two other stories before we wrap up.

1:36:33One of them is the Ukraine story. Did you see the Ukraine story? I did not. The Ukraine story is that the U.S. and Ukraine forces went head-to-head in an exercise. And guess who won? Ukraine. Ukraine's drones won. This is a Wall Street Journal story. and then a story comes out, Ukraine could destroy all of the Russian ballistic missiles if U.S. sells 10 % Patriot supply. But before we get into the stories, and I want to get into the Candace Owens and Andrew Wilson podcast and some of the conversations we had on getting into, and the last but not least, we'll do the Trump truck. But before we do that, I want you guys to see this.

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1:39:23During the exercise called Combined Resolve, Ukrainian drones units easily spotted and defeated U.S. troops and armored vehicles on rotation from Fort Hood, Texas. Around 3 ,500 U.S. personnel, primarily from the 3rd Armored Brigade Combat Team, 1st Cavalry Division, which that's the biggest base we have in America. It's a very well-known decorated base. Attacked a position defended by opposition forces reinforced by Ukrainians from the 412 Regiment of Unmanned System Forces, known as Nemesis. The Ukrainian eliminated a U.S. armored brigade. heavy vehicles threw up dust at reconnaissance drones easily spotted followed by explosive dropping and first-person view drones scoring kills so quickly that the u.s vehicles had to be respawned to keep the exercise going the americans improved over two weeks as they learned to disperse conceal and use electronic warfare the drubbing couples with u.s casualties from iranian drones shows american vulnerability years after the u.s pioneer long-range drones warfare British and Swedish forces have suffered similar defeats.

1:40:25It is vital that the U.S. military master that. And thus far, unfortunately, that does not seem to be the case, said Elliot Cohen, a scholar at the Center for Strategic and International Studies. And this story from Wall Street Journal comes out same time when a story comes out from CNN saying, CNN saying Ukraine could destroy all Russian ballistic missiles if U.S. sells 10 percent of Patriot supply to them. Tom, when you hear this story, how do you process the story? I process it two ways. Ukraine has had to get better by necessity, and necessity drives invention. And necessity also drives urgency and speed.

1:41:05And Ukraine's had all three. They've had the necessity to defend themselves. They've had the urgency because of various Russian thrusts that have happened, you know, in phases during the war. And they've needed the speed so they could get back and be the one on the offense. Whenever you have that, you always iterate faster. You always iterate faster. So apparently they've iterated faster, point one. Point two, apparently the lack of investment during the Biden administration and things like this have led to a situation where we're not ready for certain elements of modern warfare. We have giant aircraft carriers that can sail around, and they're protected by nuclear subs and Aegis-class cruisers right next to them.

1:41:52That's the old style of warfare. Once you're over the—look at what's happening right now. We still have Iran ability to make missiles, launch them out of the mountainside from over here, over here, over here, so finding needles in a haystack and then hitting ships. Right here, what this is telling us, saying if you gave me 10 percent of your patriots because I could defend against the Russian missiles, we would go in with the drones and we would destroy the rest of them where they sleep. We saw a – I was very impressed and shocked. It was two years ago, Pat, where – I believe it was two years – where the Ukrainians launched an overnight drone assault on Russian bombers that were parked the way the U.S.

1:42:40and Russia parks the planes. You remember this, seeing this? All the Russian planes were parked in a row. And zoom, they went over there. They overwhelmed the air defense, and they were bombing these bombers, bombing the bombers. So there's the two things. Ukraine did it out of necessity, Pat, and the U.S. is not ready for this level of modern warfare. We have got everything we need for the old level of warfare. Let's fly B-52s at high altitude and drop unbelievable amounts of bombs on the mountains and come back and say, we've destroyed Iran's nuclear capabilities. That's old style. This new style, this is the same thing we learned in Vietnam.

1:43:19You know what we learned in Vietnam, Pat? It says that we learned about guerrilla warfare. We learned about tunnels. We learned about caves. We learned about trap doors. We learned about so much in Vietnam when we pulled back that said this is different. We also learned a big lesson in Mogadishu. We learned about urban warfare in Mogadishu. And what we're finding at is that the modern war is going to be electronic war fought by autonomous little nuisances. And we're not we're not ready for it. And by the way, you know, in this in this interview with Zelensky, he's asking. I don't know if you saw this or not.

1:43:54Zelensky said this year I'm asking American partners to sell me five percent of missiles, what they have in their stocks. Zelensky told CNN in an interview, if they sell us 5%, we will go through the winter and save people's lives. If they can sell us 10%, we will destroy all the Russian ballistic missiles. The appeal came amid a severe air defense shortage. In July, Ukraine intercepted only 29 of the 195 ballistic missile Russia launched, making it the deadliest month for civilians since the full-scale invasion began in 2022. According to the UN, I have 1%, Zelensky said. the current Ukraine acquisition of interceptors.

1:44:34The U.S. itself faces a reported missile shortage as the Iran war depleted stockpiles. President Trump said August 6th, the U.S. needs missiles too. So imagine you're asking me for missiles. You want me to give you missiles while I'm in the middle of it? You understand what I'm saying? Like you want us to share it with you for what? We're in the middle of something ourselves as well. So it's not like America has the ability. By the way, we do have some useful clues. Zelensky said in May that U.S. production was only around 60 to 65 Patriot missiles per month. So we're only doing 60 to 65 Patriot missiles per month and argued that production needed to increase substantially.

1:45:10Zelensky is telling America, hey, man, let's go. I need more missiles from you. While America is dealing with Iran, this guy's asking for us to give the missiles. Trump's like, wait a minute, we may need it ourselves. So how are you processing this? Well, the fact that this is the monster that we created with Zelensky, you know, coming here begging, remember, money, give me money, give me money. This is a problem that Biden and all them invited, invited Russia to do a minor incursion. Do you remember that, Tom? Minor incursion, meaning start the war, go for it. And then all the guys, you know, all the defense contractors and this whole money laundering situation.

1:45:44And now we are stuck besides our own freaking war with Iran. Now we have to deal with this guy and Ukraine. And by the way, Russia, if you guys notice, Russia has been really quiet. Tom, I haven't heard that much about Putin. But how do you think Putin feels about hearing, hey, if America gives me 10 percent of Patriot missiles, I can take out everything with ballistic missiles. That's that. But if I'm Russia, I'm like, yeah, go ahead. I dare you, because then that's going to ruin whatever relationship that we have with America. Putin's short of troops. Yeah. And we are short of air defense. Yeah.

1:46:16And Ukraine is short of air defense. Yeah. I would say everybody is looking at this and not liking where they are right now. No, and Tom, to me, if our relationship is cool with you, and then I'm going to find out if you give somebody a bunch of Patriot missiles that are going to take out all my ballistic capability, bro, to me, that's an act of like, okay, now you're in on this even more. And again, I don't want nothing, Ukraine and Russia, I don't want that to be any of our business. But Biden made it our business. And by the way, these videos are scary as hell. I've seen these drone warfare, because, you know, on X, if you click on one of them, guys, it's just constantly happening.

1:46:52Are these Ukrainian soldiers and then Russian soldiers trying to run away from these freaking drones? And there is nowhere to hide. This thing is following you. I don't care where you hide. It's coming. So I would just hope I would hope because two things. That's what it looks like. Play that clip. Boom. It's coming to you. You're looking at drones. Boom. Yeah, they're all gone. If you don't have shrapnel in your all over your body. 10 seconds. Go back. Watch this. They think they got away. They began to hug each other thinking they had emerged from the battle. And then all of a sudden they hear the sound of the drone.

1:47:24Oh, he's going to try to shoot. No, you can't. By the way. You can't shoot a drone. And I'm pretty sure the aftermath. Oh, at least the guy, they're done. They're done because it's like a 5 to 10 meter range. By the way, Russia, Russian attacks killed 10 in Ukraine, as Zelensky says. Moscow is getting more North Korean missiles. This is just two days ago. So this is still going on. And so for them, you know, one week they're having a successful week. Next week, Russia's coming and saying, don't worry, we'll get it. Remember, Russia and Iran are together. So in this situation, Russia's partnership with Iran is forcing U.S.

1:47:54to get closer to Zelensky, even though Ukraine and Iran will be more comparable because they're the smaller ones. They are standing up against a bigger bully. And this is my thing. It's the main thing is what? Protection of our troops are having these exercises, and they're showing how bad we are. Over here, number one, I obviously think that we need an iron dome. You know what I mean? If we're giving all the money, all these other places to have protection, we need protection here, number one. Number two, it's all of our United States soldiers stationed all over the place that if something, God forbid, happens, we just saw the story.

1:48:25We're not trained, Tom. And this is a freaking, this is the future of warfare. It's not even troops on the ground anymore, Pat. It's just drones coming in and blowing everything up. So we need to get ready. Yeah. Yeah. This is why Palmer Luckey's company, Adriel, has been so successful. Mass produce it and mass produce modern weapons meeting the need, Adam. Well, here's what I've learned during this Russia-Ukraine war is that Russia has been totally exposed. We thought that they were this big, bad army that, you know, could take over the world. They can't even take over land in Ukraine. They're barely winning.

1:48:58I mean, does anybody look worse than Putin? And I'm being completely unbiased here. Putin, what has he accomplished in the last five years? What has he done? He's ruined his country. Hundreds of thousands and a million people have died. For what benefit? I mean, where I will criticize Trump is maybe putting too much stock that his personal relationship with Putin might change anything. Trump campaigned on ending the war in one day. Buddy, it's been five years. I don't put that on Trump. I think he's tried, tried, tried again. I put this on Putin. I think this is Putin's legacy at this point, is that your country has basically been outmaneuvered, outmanned, and out-innovated by the little engine that could Zelensky and the Ukrainians.

1:49:42But we're giving them all the money. But Adam, think about it. Well, they're winning. If you're fighting a giant and some other giant is giving you a – Zelensky. Ukraine is winning. You know what I'm saying? So, Adam, think about this. Adam, ready for this? Hold on. There's a giant that you're fighting. Right? It's me. I'm a little guy fighting a giant. David versus Goliath. But somebody keeps giving me everything that I need to keep shooting and fighting. It's like, what do you mean the other team is going to be losing? Putin can't go in and just nuke Ukraine He can't go in there and just destroy them He has the capability Adam, you don't think Putin could just go in there And wipe out Ukraine in two seconds He could But then what happens?

1:50:20What I'm saying is Ukraine has no chance The only reason they do it is because they know that we're back Do you remember when they talked about This is three, four years ago That they gotta give Putin an off-ramp You need to save face for model Russia Has anything been done to give this guy an off-ramp. They met over Alaska over a year ago. Remember that? Trump and Putin, is anything that had been accomplished by that? One of the saddest things is that everybody, when the Gaza-Israel thing happened, everybody pivoted to Gaza. And everyone forgot that the most disastrous war that we've seen in Europe, potentially in the world since World War II, is happening in Ukraine and Russia right now, and nothing's happening.

1:50:59So the glimmer of hope that I have for America, You know, they say you can win. You don't win or lose, you win or learn. America got beat on the battlefield by Ukrainian forces. And then they said America actually improved over the next two weeks, that they learned to basically conceal and use electronic warfare. Thank goodness that we have an ally like Ukraine that's giving it to Russia right now that we can learn from and that we're not fighting these people and we can use it to our advantage. Because at the end of the day, I'm with you. We care about America. We want to protect America. But it's in America's interest to make sure that Russia does not win.

1:51:33Yeah. And oil is eighty two dollars, but the market's at an all time high. So the K-shaped economy in the background continues. Yeah. Weird. OK. All right. Do we want to go to the story of the president getting sneaking off of a, you know, Trump reportedly use a catering truck to sneak off Air Force One amid Iranian threats? Like you read the story like, is this real? Is this it? Play the clip. So this that's him getting off and he gets into another truck. It's behind it. Just to throw people off in Turkey. while they're thinking he's on Air Force One. So that means the people that are on Air Force One, if Iran was going to do anything, so imagine you're on that flight.

1:52:13Hey, guys, take one for the team. Well, no, imagine finding out, like, you're on there eating lobster and hanging out. Where is the president? The president, by the way. No, no, no, imagine you're on the plane, like, where's the president? No, no, he took a different... And you know automatically why, what happened? You look at the flight attendant, flight attendants are nervous. Oh, my God. We don't, he typically would be here. I don't know what to tell you, Mr. Oshana. I don't know what to tell you. I can picture Trump in the trunk with all the catering. Stigity snack right here. Pass me a Diet Coke.

1:52:40Give me a hamburger. But can we make, Connor, can you check? From what I heard, he faked the funk, didn't get on this one. With a nasty dunk. He went on to the second one and then got off and went to a third plane. He didn't get on. Can you make sure? How many planes does he have? I think Trump certified. He switched planes in Turkey. He went to one. Well, there's a Qatar game. And then he was on a jet. Guys, he went on a jet. He went on a smaller jet with Pete Hegseth and somebody else. And I'm just saying right now, you know what would have been funny? Connor made a great point. If, God forbid, this person that had like a shoulder rocket fired, whatever, I don't know, whatever the reporting of whoever even said it, if they shot down the first Air Force One, you know how many Americans would have been like the leftist that cheered?

1:53:23We got him. Yeah, red, man, orange. And he's just like, I'm back. And he shows up. People would have been so freaking furious. I'll be back. Yeah, that he didn't die. But this is the clip. Can you play this? Can you tell us about your ride on the airport catering truck in Turkey? Why did you need to do that? Well, it's only up to Secret Service. I just follow what they'd like to do. So I go by Secret Service and the military. They wanted me to go on a different flight, a different plane, equal safety. But they wanted me to do it, so I do it. I do what they say. Why did they want me to do that?

1:53:59I love them. I guess there was a threat out there. I didn't really ask too much about it. I get a lot of threats. Why was it too dangerous for you to fly on Air Force One but not too dangerous for the threat? I think actually the plane that I flew on was at greater risk. Why do you say that? Because that would be the plane I think that they would be more likely to go for. Didn't Clinton in 2000 get on a, he came on a different flight they liked, Pat, from Pakistan? he flew into Pakistan on a different plane than everybody thought he was on you know what I would have said to her who are you with CNN MS Now or whatever all the crap you guys talk about me for the past God knows how he is good for you I'm out I would have just walked away get out of here Hillary and I were in Pakistan I just flipped off those bastards from the stairs Air Force One she gets in I went the other way I was thinking maybe my lucky day I process this a couple different ways.

1:54:58Number one, do I think that Iran wants to kill Trump? I mean, obviously. Do we have the picture that I just sent you, Connor? Eight days away. They're promoting it. They're saying it everywhere. They're saying death to America. They're saying that they want to kill Trump. Here's a banner that they put up in the Islamic Republic right now. How much more obvious should they make it? We will kill Trump. Okay? That's what they're doing in Iran right now. And I get it. He took out their Ayatollah. He took out Soleimani. So when someone tells you who they are, believe them. Number two, and this is just my speculation, where was he leaving that plane from?

1:55:33Turkey. Turkey. You know how much I trust turkey at this point? As much as you trust ham? About this much. Yeah. I trust ham a little bit more than turkey at this point. And I'm keeping kosher, if you know what I mean. Yeah. But to me, I think you have to protect the golden goose. Trump is the golden goose. I don't know what's going on here, but when Secret Service says get in the catering truck, Trump's getting his ass in the catering. You know who knew what was happening were the pilots of Air Force One. Nobody else knew until later. You know the pilots were crapping in their pants, bro, because they said a guy was walking around with a freaking surface-to-air missile.

1:56:07Like that, yo, I'm already afraid of flights, bro. I would have gone. Protect this man's secret service. You got a bullet in his ear. You got how many attempts at his life? Do we have that picture of when he's golfing? And then they have, like, some missile launcher? Do you have that? He's in Jersey. This is what you need when you're playing. He's in Jersey golfing, and you see Sam. Actually, their defense missiles to knock stuff out of the sky. That's what a Patriot battery looks like, by the way. It's called a Patriot battery. Look at this guy. This is what Trump is golfing with right here. That's a hole-in-one, ladies and gentlemen.

1:56:39Each of those square containers has got four to eight missiles inside it that will seek out and knock down an incoming. Very dangerous joke. Last but not least, Andrew Wilson made a$300 ,000 offer to Candace Owens to debate him on the topic of Charlie Kirk, overwhelming the evidence that Tyler Robinson shot and killed Charlie and her saying no, Tyler Robinson is a patsy. That debate is going to be taking place tomorrow morning, 11 a.m. Eastern Standard Time. It'll be live stream the entire time. I want to show you the intro of this. Go for it. Go ahead and play this clip. And podcaster Charlie Kirk has been shot.

1:57:18Tyler James Robinson is the suspect in custody. Tyler Robinson is a patsy. Utah Valley University. I feel pretty certain about that. We got him. He texted his boyfriend and admitted to the crimes. You're saying these are his texts. We can't even determine if they're fake or they're real. Redaction. I don't think your investigation has proven a single thing. There is nothing but a single shred of this case that they have delivered that has been concrete. To bring justice. I don't believe you can tie Erica to anything. I don't believe you have a single credible eyewitness or alternative theory. You got to connect the bullet.

1:57:58You got to connect the person. And I'm just as connected to this case as you are, which means not at all. Dude, I'm watching it. Yeah. Tomorrow morning, this will be live. Okay. And we had multiple conversations. There was a lot of, well, you know, she's not doing this. He's not doing this. She's not doing this. He's not doing this. We finally had a Zoom. We got on the call. Tom, you were on that Zoom as well. And it was very clear on exactly what his position is versus what her position is. They fully agreed on the same page. This is my position. This is yours. Let's have it. Let's sit down. I think this is the conversation a lot of people have been waiting to take place.

1:58:41And respectfully, they're both formidable. Both of them know how to debate. Both of them know what to do. Candace has, of course, got a massive follow. and Andrew Wilson is kind of coming up where he's been around the block debating hundreds. He knows what he's doing. And so it should be a very, very interesting debate taking place tomorrow. I think it's going to be a world-class event. I think they're both very capable. I think Candace is going to bring her best. I think she's going to bring her feelings. I think she's going to bring her dreams and her intuition, her motherly intuition. And she might not know, but she might know, you know.

1:59:17and I think he's going to bring facts and evidence and debate tactics and we'll see what happens. I think, you know, another thing that I think that stands out, Pat, is the trust that they have for you to be the moderator of this because they know exactly who you are. They know you're not going to be picking any sides and I think that trust is freaking amazing. It went from Joe Rogan to somebody else to Michael Knowles but, yeah, guys, it's been a year. It's been almost a year since Charlie, God rest his soul, was murdered And I'm very, very interested to hear both sides. And it's going to be, if you had to guess, Adam, Tom, how many live viewers?

1:59:54If you had to guess, I'm saying over 300 ,000 people are watching live during the day on a work day. On a work day, people are going to be tuning in. I'd say 300 ,000. What do you think? Listen, the moderating started on that call. These are both smart people. That was not a screaming match. Pat moderated the positions to get the deal finished. I love it. And now he's going to moderate the debate itself. But both these people came across very smart, very deferential, and during the point of putting the call together. And now we're going to see it go live and go see, as they say, hot conflict. So I'm looking forward to it.

2:00:26What is his relationship with Turning Point? He doesn't work for Turning Point. He's his own guy. I don't know what his relationship is with Turning Point. I do know he said we and the TPUSA, and I think he had a visit. I believe they've communicated together, but I don't know his position. I think Andrew is his own man. He is, you know, he goes way, way back to a show that I think him and Dave Smith used to have, I think, 10 years ago. This guy knows what he's doing. He's a, you know, they do this for a living. This is their business model. He's always on that whatever takes. Crucible. Podcast.

2:01:00Crucible, yeah. So what were the guidelines, meaning there was no personal attacks? Can you establish any rules or can you tell us what's basically been agreed to? No, they're both. leaning on me to keep it about the issue for them to go back and forth with. It's very much of a being fair and the right proper time and all this other stuff. And so the agreement came to this. By the time we're done with the first position, let's just say it goes 90 minutes to two hours. By the time we go through the first position, this may be three and a half hours to five hours. I hope so. Just so you know that.

2:01:37This may be three and a half to five hours. So it's going to be a sit down for a while. And we have to talk about bathroom breaks and how to do it, timing, all this stuff. It's going to be what the audience wants to see. Are you going to have live fact checks? Because a lot of it will be feelings. To be fair for both sides. And by the way, credit goes to Candice. Candice is like, bring your team of three to do your own set of fact checking. So while we're there, Candice has her own team. He has his own team. And if I say, hey, can we fact check that? Both teams can fact check it. Nice. and put it on the screen, and they can ask their team to pull it up.

2:02:13I'm telling you, they're doing it the right way. Well, it's put up or shut up. This is the right way to do it, and they're the right people to do it. Some would say Andrew's got more experience with debating, and some would say Candace has more experience with this. But regardless, the fact that both sides are kind of saying, well, the other person has the advantage, well, the other person has the advantage, this is a good showdown. And are you revealing the location? I'm not saying that you have a location. No, I'm not going to. No meaning, but you're going to. No, you'll just see that's going to be alive.

2:02:43Don't worry about the location. Just keep in mind, put it on your calendar. It's going to be great. And the reason why I'm doing it is for me, just so you know, I'm not getting paid. This is not like, hey, can you pay me for this? They're not even paying me for my flight. Just so everybody knows this. And I'm doing this because Candace is pregnant. And in many cases. She's pregnant again? She is pregnant. And so we're doing this because we're going there. And, you know, Candace has come here many times. This is one way of us going there and hosting this conversation, and we're looking forward to it.

2:03:13We're looking forward to putting your calendar. It's going to be wild. It's going to be intense. It's going to be massive, and it's going to be what many, many, many people have been waiting for. There's a massive audience rooting for Candice, and there's a massive audience rooting for Andrew, and I think it's the right show. So tomorrow morning, 11 a.m. Eastern Standard Time, put it on your calendar. You will see it here on PBD Podcasts, podcasts you know on all over the place the clips will come out it's going to be great so with that being said gang if you're watching this um we will not be we typically would do monday friday the reason why i'm not doing tomorrow is because of this we will go back to it again next monday and i'm sure many of you guys will be tuning in to this whether you like either party or not i highly recommend tuning in and listening tuning in and by the way for the people that are like wow you know pat's on candace's side pat's on andrew's side i just did a Ben Shapiro interview last week.

2:04:06Yeah. Do you understand? Like if there's anybody, so for both of them to agree to this, this is a very, very fair positioning on where everybody's at. And keep in mind, respect to Michael Knowles. He's one of my favorite guys on the market. I love Michael Knowles. You know, what he did and what his position was, I respect it. And as well as Joe, this started with Joe's podcast with, you know, what do you call it? Andrew Wilson doing his thing. Being there. So Joe was offering as well. So everybody wants to have this conversation. We'll do that tomorrow, 11 a.m. Eastern time. Guys, take care. Have a great weekend.

2:04:42We'll do it again next week. God bless everybody. Take care. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Thank you.