Tucker’s New MAGA Party, El-Sayed Wins Michigan & Perez Hilton Hospitalized | PBD Podcast #840

0:01Did you ever think you would make it? I feel I'm so excited to take sweet victory. I know this life meant for me. Adam, what's your point? The future looks bright. My handshake is better than anything I ever signed. Right here. You are a one of one? My son's right there. I don't think I've ever said this before.

0:26All right. Lots to cover today, and we decided to bring one of the best-looking guys in the history of mankind. A little bit too much. Too much looks here. Antonio Sabato Jr. here with us. Great to have you on the podcast. My pleasure. My honor. Yeah. You know, when we talk to the ladies, it's always the general hospital, right? 92 to 95, the seasons you were on. Yeah. And then from there, Calvin Klein, which was everywhere. where back in the days when the Calvin Klein models meant something, at the peak of it, that's when you were in it. Janet Jackson music video, if I'm not mistaken. You did something with Janet Jackson.

0:58What did you feel about that? Love will never do without you. Herb Ritz shot that, greatest photographer of all time, Herb Ritz. He's not with us anymore. So I had the pleasure to work with some amazing people. We didn't have the phones and all that stuff back then. It was a different. Just a good time. Just a good time with people talking to each other face-to-face, not through their phones, their technology. It was about being human beings. And you got the job, they tell you to your face. Now they send you a message. You know what I mean? They don't even want to talk to you anymore, you know?

1:25Different times. We were humans then. You call somebody. You dial the phone. Now it's like, hey, man, I'll see you later. Actually, leave me a message later. I don't even want to talk to you. You know what I mean? Nobody has the time to do anything, but they have all the time to be negative. You understand that? And I think we appreciated time in the 90s. When I moved to this country in 85 from Italy, it was an honor to become an American citizen. I paid my dues. My mom from Prague, my dad from Palermo, who wanted to become an actor, Grand Prix, all the greatest movies, especially the Westerns.

1:58And my mom was like in Prague, you know what I mean? Living, escaping the Communist Party. And my grandmother was the only survivor of Auschwitz because her brother and her parents were killed at Auschwitz. So my mom, I grew up in Rome not knowing this stuff as a little boy. And then at eight years old, my mom says, we're going to go to Prague and I'm going to show you and your sister a concentration camp. And I was like, what is a concentration camp? I'm eight years old. So we're driving to Prague from Rome through the Alps and we get to Prague. And she shows me these concentration camps. They were like, they did this, they did that.

2:30I remember seeing a lamp, all right, a lamp. And the top of the lamp had the skin of the Jewish people. That the Nazis cut their skin and put it on these lamps. and I'm eight years old and I'm going, what is it? My mom shows everything, the ovens. My family found out at eight years old what life was like before I was born and it wasn't pretty. And so I learn all kinds of stuff as a little boy and I suggest everybody in this country, especially the kids and teenagers, wake up and start learning about the past because you're not going to know anything about the future because you've got to learn these things.

3:07There's been awful things happening in the past. A lot. And we'll get into it. So we'll talk about some of that stuff. We'll talk about some of that stuff. We'll talk about some of that stuff. But that's my family. You know what I mean, bro? Great story. Yeah, when he came in, you talk about the car, Grand Prix, dad, acting, all that stuff. We'll get into that. We got a lot of stories to get into. So let me kind of cover some of the stuff we got. Yesterday, two days ago, I had Ben Shapiro on. We're sitting there. While we're about to go live, Tucker Carlson says he's announcing something. Then he drops his 10-point plan.

3:34A lot of people have reacted to it. We got some thoughts. We'll talk about that as well. There's a fellow in Michigan, senator. He won the primary on the Democratic side. Abdul El-Said. This is a new guy that Vinny's very fond of, which we'll talk about. Hassan Piker had a few things to say about Democrats, and we'll address that. Perez Hilton. You're telling me there's a video I should not watch, and I'm sure you know who he is. I know him. And what he's done. Yeah, I had him on 10 years ago when we did the podcast. I want to get your thoughts on that, what's going on, Perez Hilton. Yeah. Then there's a massive burrito debate, and I know this sounds weird.

4:09I don't know if you're following this or not. Burrito debate shouldn't cost. A burrito shouldn't cost$20, says this young girl. She's like, look, I understand there's a lot of stuff going on, but$20? Give me a flipping break. Bunch of guys have responded to it, and we'll have a conversation about the burrito debate today because it has to do with affordability, and I think both sides need to know there's a massive audience that's thinking about that, especially right now since the jobs report came out a few minutes ago with it being what, Tom? Minus? Down a little over$20 ,000. A little bit of a surprise.

4:43We'll talk about it. They're not expecting that. Nobody was expecting that. No, they were expecting a little bit of a gain after last month and the months prior, and we got some charts we'll pull up from our own research. Perfect. So that's the minus$22 ,000. And then we got next thing, country music takes top five on the Billboard charts. What do you mean country's taking top five? Well, is it because the USAID money got out of hip-hop and all the other places we were putting it? There's a lot of speculation, and we'll get into that. Number six, when we talk about Tucker, Trump was asked about J.D.

5:15Vance because a report came out that the president's going around telling people we should get behind J.D., he should be it. He immediately jumped in and said some things. We'll play that clip for you, but there's an article that came out saying 2028 may be the first AI election. So we'll talk about that. another two stories, which is kind of interesting. One of them says five reasons more Americans are cutting off their own parents, according to psychologists. Sorry, Mom. Yeah, and then the other one says record number of U.S. adults are moving in with their parents. So how are you moving in with your parents, but you're saying you're going to cut off your parents.

5:49Of course, it's a different age demo, but we'll address that as well. And in WNBA, there's a rock star, folks. This guy's amazing. and he plays in Europe and he wants to come to the WNBA and now they're saying they're okay with it and Michael Porter and Lonzo Ball are doing a podcast and they're talking about at what age they would have dominated the WNBA players and Michael Porter tells a story of how he played against Sophie Cunningham when he was in 7th or 8th grade and what happened to that game. Keep in mind, he's a 7th grader playing with WNBA players and he's breaking down what happened.

6:27And he's playing with girls that are older than him. We'll play that clip. And then I got two other stories that we may get into. Robin Hood is now making more money from prediction markets than they're making from their actual business model that they had. And maybe a couple stories about Hollywood. And we got Antonio's relationship with Steve McQueen. You know, we used to go to this restaurant in Addison. It was called Neighborhood Services. Tom, do you remember the five faces on the wall? One was McQueen. Michael Caine. Michael Caine is another one. James Dean was another one. Sean Connery was another one.

7:05And then who was the fifth one that was on the wall? Paul Newman. Those were the five pictures on the wall. Good call. Paul Newman was on the wall. So we'll talk Hollywood a little bit as well. But with that being said, gang, if you're watching this, we are – I was in Las Vegas just yesterday. We got back from Las Vegas. We did our annual convention. This is the last convention I went to with PHP. I had a great time. Congratulations to hearts, family, and everybody. else and a great event that they put together with Maral and Tikran. Phenomenal as usual. But we are officially three weeks away from the VOL Conference.

7:36Three weeks away from the VOL Conference. And for those of you guys that got CO tickets, Alex Spiral will be joining us in the CO session. Alex Spiral, if you don't know, he's Musk's lawyer, Bezos' lawyer, top seven richest men in America out of top ten. He's their lawyer. He's the guy that people fear. He'll be in there talking. And then when Joe Montana and Jerry Rice interview happens, that'll be done by Stephen A. Smith. We're going to have a good time. It's going to be phenomenal. So with that being said, I want you to watch this clip. And then I'll tell you more and then we'll get into the podcast.

8:05Go for it. A lot of people say, Pat, if I come to the VOL Conference, you're in the insurance industry. You're in the media business. You're in consulting. I'm in construction. I'm in dental. I'm a doctor. I'm a surgeon. If you come to the VOL Conference, you talk to the person to your left or your right, 100-plus industries will attend the VOL Conference because strategies are transferable to any industry. HR, recruiting, raising money, hiring, firing, expanding in a new marketplace, marketing, storytelling, how to balance it all with your family. All of it is transferable to any other industry.

8:35So whatever industry you're a part of, Vault Conference is for you. There you go. So if you haven't registered yet, go to vault2026.com. Again, vault2026.com. Come down, bring your spouse, bring your business partner, bring your peers. Don't come by yourself. Let's spend three and a half days together. Network, deals, strategies, all of that. But again, go to vault2026.com. Even if it's a general ticket, at a time like this, make the investment, get new strategies to take your business and your life to the next level. With that being said, let's get right into it. Tucker Carlson does a video announcing his 10-point plan.

9:10And when we see this 10-point plan, I'm expecting a call-out, very specific, unique, what's going to happen with it. And all of a sudden you go through it and articles come out that the 10 points, what the 10 points are about. I mean, we can't really play the whole clip. So I think it's about an hour and a half. But let me read to you what the 10 clips are, 10 points are. And I'll read them to you one by one by one. Okay. Point number one, be fair. Okay. Yeah. One set of rules for everyone, presidents, billionaires, intelligence agencies, and ordinary Americans should be held. Same law. So point number one was about Epstein.

9:50Okay. Number two is sovereign. America should make decisions based on American interests, foreign governments, foreign lobbies, corporations, and wealthy donors should not dictate. Fair. That's about AIPAC, Israel. That's what he was talking about. Number three, productive. America needs to make things again, rebuild manufacturing, agriculture, skilled trades, domestic production, rather than relying primarily on finance speculation. Okay. Number four, beautiful. That's literally number four. Beautiful. Make American cities and communities beautiful. Again, reduce crime, graffiti, public drug use, and decay.

10:27Build places Americans are proud to live in. Okay, he's talking about that when he goes to Russia. He was amazed by the buildings and all of that. But the guy that's running it right now is a real estate guy who knows how to make things better than you because he's a real estate guy. He knows how to make properties beautiful. Next, number five, healthy. Americans should become physically and mentally healthier, improve the food supply, encourage sobriety, and question American dependence on prescriptions. So he was kind of defending what RFK was doing and going against Anthony Fauci, so the enemies he's choosing.

10:54Six, honest. The government should stop lying to its citizens, reduce unnecessary government secrecy, and release important historical information, including the recording surrounding JFK, 9-11-K. That was the same thing in the previous one. Seven, optimistic. Build America around the next generation, encourage marriage, children, strong families. Tucker's argument is that civilization survive when people believe their children have a better future ahead. Okay, future looks bright. Optimism, I'm with it. Eight, wise. Education should teach reality rather than ideology. Teach practical skills, trade history, and fundamental truths about human nature.

11:32All right. Nine, decent. America should behave morally overseas. Avoid unnecessary wars. Acknowledge. Okay, non-interventionist. Ten, United. Protect American social cohesion. Tucker proposes stopping immigration while America determines what artificial intelligence will do American jobs. So he's against a lot of these data centers being built. Vinny, when you watched it, was there anything where you were like, this is amazing, this is awesome, he's going places? And what do you think the motive of that video, of I'm dropping the 10 points and meeting with MTG, Joe Kent, Marjorie Taylor Greene, what do you think's going on here?

12:09I thought number 11 was going to be hold hands and sing kumbaya. No, no, and I'm not, with all due respect. I'm with you. You understand what I'm saying? Because think about it. You see that right there. You see this dinner. This is a message, okay? Marjorie Taylor Greene, Joe Kent, Massey. And is it crazy? An hour before this plan or anything was announced, I said, guys, who here would be the president, vice president, secretary of state, and who would be secretary of defense? And I was like, you know, Tucker probably president, Joe Kent sec def. No, think about it. Marjorie Taylor Greene or Joe Massey, who would be the vice president?

12:42But when you have this major announcement, and I was wondering, this is a nothing burger, Pat. Absolutely nothing burger. Because here's the thing. I agree with some of the things on the list. What's the plan? What legislation are you proposing? Who's leading it? How are you going to pay for it? Look, if you think about it, I told you, these are basic. All it is was basic adjectives followed by things Tucker believes. Listen, you have a bunch of people sitting at a table right now who have made money from the political world doing absolutely nothing to help their neighbor. All right? With all their money and they're looking all nice and cozy at their table.

13:21That girl lives in some other country. That person, they travel in private jets. They don't deal with the American people. The stuff that he was talking about, for the most part, it was like common sense. Can you imagine we live in a society right now where you have to teach adults how to live? I mean, I got to teach you how to live. I got to do this. We have greatest laws in our country. Just follow the law, be a good person, and leave everybody alone. These people are dictating, sitting at the head of the table over there, that dude right there who talks for this person, then he's against this person.

13:51They don't have integrity, my friend. Because if you say something, I like this color. You don't think Tucker has integrity? At the end of the day, he's owned by someone and something. I'm not owned by anybody but God. Bingo. All right? If Warner Brothers doesn't want to hire me because I voted for Trump, I don't want to work with you. That's why I started Gratwick, my studio that you can download. Things like that. I'll find another way. Maybe I won't do the A movies, but I'll do the A movies 10 years down the line. What I'm saying, I back up what I'm saying 100%. I don't go and apologize. These people make money on other people.

14:25When they ever help our country? When do these people ever help anyone? You think Tucker stands a chance in 2020 as a president? No. You think he will run? If it's good to sell books, if it's good for his career. I mean, these are selfish people with very big egos. Do you think about that cross? Do you feel the same way about Ben Shapiro as well? All of them, every one of them. So it's not just you're not isolating Tucker. No, Democrats, listen, I ran for office, and I realized something. I was fighting for a cause. I was the first celebrity to say Trump is my guy. Then I spoke at the RNC about Jesus and everything, and everybody, all my agents and everybody blacklisted me.

15:01We don't want to represent you. You're sick to us, all right? Fine. I'll create my own life. I'll go and work in construction. I'll create my own life. I'll move out of the country. Whatever I got to do to survive for me and my kids. I got balls, so I back it up. But you guys over there, sitting down over there, like all these people left and right, they don't do anything for our country. Our country is going into the trash can. We have the most unhealthy people in our country. We have the fattest people in our country. We have the worst food in our country. People don't exercise anymore. They talk about exercising, but now they're on peptides, drugs.

15:32You have to be drugged to lose weight. We're living in a society right now where it used to be 50 years ago, America was the greatest country in the world. 12-year-olds and 13-year-old kids used to train, do push-ups, love our country, the flag, God, this and that. What do you got now? You got Internet, people looking like we're the baggy pants and going, you know what, I want to vote for this, I want to vote for that, everybody free, let everybody in our country, let's trash our people. I mean, there's no integrity in what I'm saying. And I'm saying that where are the people like you guys that back it up all the way?

16:02Even if you're wrong, you back it up all the way. Yeah, that's interesting. Tom, where do you stand with what you saw? First of all, if you don't mind, because you and I will analyze and we'll talk and say, what do you think he's going to talk about? What did you think he was going to talk about? And did it match what you thought he was going to talk about? No, I thought this was a big buildup to like some Super Bowl halftime show that I, Tucker Carlson, with my reach, with my audience, which are significant, credit, I thought he was going to come out with like a real platform about what it meant to be an independent party.

16:36That's what I thought. This had a lot of feeling in it, optimistic, wise, decent. I'm like, wait a minute. It's the liberals that throw out the feeling in a speech with no program attached to it, with no policy attached to it, with no platform. I was very surprised by this. I thought it was simplistic, and I was looking for more considering the buildup.

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18:15Introducing Xfinity Shield. Visit Xfinity.com slash shield to learn more. Xfinity, imagine that. Restrictions apply not available in all areas. Xfinity internet and compatible equipment required. Adam, your thoughts. So I'm not going to do what everybody thought I was going to do and just completely freak out on Tucker Carlson right here. So I'm going to bring some stats and some facts, and you guys can fact check me. Number one, Tucker Carlson. He was a registered Democrat for 20 years. 20 years. Okay. Okay. Nothing wrong with that. But I just thought that'd be a good thing. Every single person that he's in that picture.

18:52You know his reasoning. He says, I did that because I lived in D.C. And it was more of a strategic thing, not because I was a Democrat. He'll say that. Yeah, that's like me saying, hey, listen. And he said he needed access as a reporter. Yes. I get it. That's like also me saying, I'm straight, but all I do is go to gay clubs. Because it's way easier to pick up chicks. You've been doing that for years. You've been doing that for years. BBD, that was your thing, bro. It worked like Matthew. That's my point. Connection Nashville tennis. So you're proving my point, sir. But his collection of what I would call crew of rejects, and I don't mean that in a bombastic way.

19:24Every single person that he was having dinner with, Thomas Massey, Marjorie Taylor Greene, Joe Kent, they've all been rejected by MAGA. Now you want to talk stats. 2024, two years ago, Tucker's net favorability within MAGA was plus 54. Now it's just above neutral. And I give so much credit to the MAGA people out there. They're like, yeah, you switched up, bro. If you're going to switch up, that's fine. But at least give a valid reason as to why. Now the last point with this crew of rejects and him switching up, this 10-point plan, which I thought Anthony Fauci had the weirdest diary. This seems like a diary thing.

20:04Three things that I have a problem with. Honesty, optimistic, and united. Honesty. he lost all credibility with me when he did that interview with with the new york times and she goes you've called uh president donald trump the antichrist i never said that i would never say that roll the tape is this the antichrist i think it may be all right well like do you not know how the internet works ducker we could just roll the clip from two weeks ago number two optimistic listen future looks bright all around us anytime i watch ducker it's the sky is falling russia's better than us government's going to take over that doesn't seem like a very optimistic approach and the last thing united you could say you're united but respectfully one of the most divisive characters in politics today and in commentary today is none other than tucker carlson that's my issue yeah so to me i was expecting more i think you know you could have gone specific with affordability and actually hit hard with a plan here's like let me put it to you this way uh Imagine how simple it is.

21:07We're going to put more money in your pocket, and this is why if I become president, there is no tax on tips. How easy is it to transfer to somebody else? See, that's a policy in a platform statement that a voter can. If I take any of these 10 points and I ask you, go transfer that at dinner tonight with three of his policies, there's nothing to do. So now he may come back and say, guys, I'm not running. You guys are getting this twisted. I'm just giving you what I think needs to happen to America because some are saying this is happening because, you know, they're getting behind J.D. and Tucker has no desire to run, right?

21:40Tucker has said, I will run as long as I get to debate Ted Cruz. I don't know if Ted Cruz is going to be on the stage this year. You think Ted Cruz is going to be one of the candidates? No, I do not. Maybe, maybe not. I don't see it. I see DeSantis. I see J.D. And there's a lot of talks right now behind closed doors that even Rubio may not be running. Like, there's no plans of Rubio running. And even yesterday, there's a story that came up that said Trump is going around asking conservatives to get behind J.D. Vance and support him. And people are like, wait, getting behind J.D. Vance? I thought you were a Rubio guy.

22:09Now he's going behind J.D. Vance. So yesterday a reporter asks the president, hey, what is all this stuff with J.D. Vance? Look how quickly he interrupts the person. Watch this here. Go for it. There's a report that you told donors that they need to get J.D. Vance elected in 2028. Is that your official endorsement? No. I heard about it a little while ago. I think he's great, but we're way too early to even be thinking about that. Okay? That's the right answer. That's the right answer way too early to be thinking about. Yeah, because he's got two years and he's got to run his country, and then two years we'll see.

22:43But also two years from now it's going to be a whole different story. Every day is changing. Who knows what's going to happen next week? But the fact of the matter is that after two years from now, our president is not going to run. What are they going to worry about? I agree things will change, but what will not change is J.D. Vance will be the vice president still, and these conversations are going to happen. But you bring up J.D. Vance because I'm speculating. What about if J.D. Vance has a scandal between now and two years? What about if something comes out that he did something to a six-year-old?

23:10I'm just saying. Of course. This is political work. What happens if COVID happens? I get it, but he's the vice president. That's all I'm saying. But wait a minute. Don't put your eggs in a basket. That's what I'm saying. Let's get past this one. Here's a part to get past. Do you think this was a presidential election video? Or do you think this was just a rah-rah motivational video? Hey, let's be united. Let's be this. Let's be optimistic. Which video? I'm going to give you a talk of Carlson's message that he gave. You think he's running in 28? I don't. Okay. You think he's running in 28? Percentage.

23:40Give the percentage. What are you at? 5%, 10 %? I'm lower than that. I think. You're lower than 5%. He's not running. Even if he does, honestly. No. Is he running or not? I don't think he is. Less than 5%. Running for what? President. Will he be on the ticket? He knows he'll get smoke. If you pull up Calci. So he doesn't want to lose publicly. Is it 15 %? You're saying 15 % he's running? 10 to 15. Antonio, where are you at with him running? Absolutely he's running. He loves money. His ego is too big. And he's going to run just for the heck of it. I mean, these people run not because they're going to be elected.

24:10They run because they want to put themselves elected on a pedestal. You're putting Tucker's running. So you're what? You're 70%, 80 %? I'll go. I'll just put all my chips on the table. Oh, really? All in. Would you vote for him? No, never. Never. I am 40 % that he's running, and I think he's seriously considering it, to answer the question concisely. Where are you at, Pat? Okay, I appreciate that. I think I'm at 20%, 30%. Okay, yeah, me and your. And more and more it goes. Remember four years ago, three years ago, I said there's alliances being created, and one of the alliances was Trump, Tucker, and Elon, and Tucker went to X to put his interviews there, and the first 50 interviews he did, all Elon ever did is retweet his interviews and say very interesting.

24:53And those interviews got Tucker from 5 million followers to 16 million followers. Can you go on Tucker's X account to see how many followers he has? I don't know what he has, but he's got to have – he's definitely 10-plus million the last time I checked. It could be much higher than that. He could be in a 15, 16 million. 17. 17.8 million. That's presidential type of followers to be able to run. So I put it at 30%. Who does he follow? Just check on the followers. It's himself. It's himself and his – Actually, you gave a warning. Let's just prove my point. Let me say something. Make sure you get your nicotine pouches.

25:23Adam, there's something very important that you said, and I'd like to go back to it, if the guys could pull up the clip. What Pat was talking about, when times get tough and things like this happen, you will be very surprised by alliances that form. And there will be some unusual people that will be picking. These are weak alliances he created. You know why? Let me tell you why these alliances are weak. Nothing against MTG, nothing against Joe Kent. I don't know them. I've interacted with Joe a couple times. One time, 60 Minutes reached out to me, and they said, could you put me in contact with Joe?

25:53I reached out to Joe. I said, Joe, these guys are telling me to get in contact. He says, thanks for reaching out. I'm not interested. I've told him a million times. But that's the only interaction I've had with Joe. Now, let me tell you, Massey and I, I've tried to have Massey on many, many times. He is concerned to be on because he's worried about one question I'm going to ask him. Which one? And, you know, it is what it is. But here's the thing. When you build alliances and you're a Tucker, here's what happens if your alliances you're building are lower than you. You know what you're telling to the world if your alliances are lower than you?

26:24What are you telling the world? What is my – I don't know if you understand the question I'm asking. Yeah, I know. So if I'm trying to build alliances and I'm building alliances of people that are under me, every one of these guys there, he's the alpha. Right? Right. So what are you doing building alliances below you? What are you telling the world? I'm the alpha. What you're telling the world is I can carry the weight to the finish line. Okay. So guess what? Who can do that? Trump can do that. Can. All day. He can do that. Reagan can do that. Right? Certain names can do that. Like DeSantis cannot do that.

27:05DeSantis needs to create a lines up. Trump created a lines down because he's already massive. He was an A-lister. He doesn't need to create a 24. We found out that Obama couldn't. If Tucker thinks for a second that it is, I'm the guy, the market's about to decide and say yay or nay. So if he then decides to go up, what they're saying, the reason why the up has not happened, and there's obviously a very close relationship. His son worked for J.D. Vance for a year. So we know J.D.'s a non-interventionist, and he's kind of trying to do this. And you know what's going to happen with J.D. doing this?

27:38Do you know what's actually going to happen with J.D.? It's going to hurt J.D. Rubio's going like this. Boom. I'm here. Rubio's going, no, with this position, I'm here. J.D.'s going like this. And the more J.D.'s going like this, he's going to be a John Kerry. He's going to be a Romney. He's going to be one of those guys that you're going like this. And, look, just tell us what you stand for. Let's hash it out and make the argument. You know, I don't think we should have any worse. Awesome, let's debate it. I don't think we should do awesome, let's debate it. Versus, well, you know, a little bit here, a little bit there.

28:04That's not going to work out for him. So, to me, if Tucker's taking his position of M the Alpha and your alliances are below, MTG, Joe, Kent, these are not heavyweights. They're not going to give you anything. You already have that base. You need to go, like, you know who needs to be in that room? Let me tell you who needs to be in that room. He needs to have that room be with somebody like a Peter Thiel or a, you know, who's the guy from NVIDIA, a Jensen Wan, or you need to have Sergey Brin, or you need to have Mark Zuckerberg. Smart, very smart people. Somebody like that. That's not going to happen right now.

28:37That ship has sailed. No, they'll never work. I get you're saying that shit. Two years ago? Yeah. Let me ask you a question. Let me tell you who defended him. Jason from the All In podcast defended him. Can you call up Jason's piece? I think they were roommates in college. One of those guys was Tucker's roommate, literally. Yeah. So let's just move that away. But this is not even like, I don't get that. You think Silicon Valley's going to get behind Tucker? Let me just explain my point to you. What I'm saying to you is Jason, I think it's Jason. Calacanis? Yeah, he does a great job hosting. Those guys are all great.

29:06Yeah. But I tell you, if in that room a Chamath's in the room, if a Jason's in the room, if you have to say, I got the all-in-business guys that are in the room, you have credibility. You might get the all-in-business podcast from Qatar to show up, but those guys are on Team Mag at this point. Because isn't David Sachs the AI czar for Trump? He is. But hasn't Chamath been very complimentary of Trump? Just because David is, that doesn't mean the other guy. Sure. So you know who should have been in that room? That would have been a perfect person in the room. Mark Cuban. Yeah, absolutely. He needs to have somebody like that.

29:44I see what you're saying, but none of those people are going in the room. Yeah, so I honestly, I was expecting, I was actually disappointed. Me and Tucker are obviously not friends. We're not, you know, we're not best of friends and all this stuff. Everybody knows the openly I called him out and he called me out for, I think he said something about Catholic comments I made. And I told him, I said, look, everybody says I'm taking money. You're taking money. why don't we just do a full-on audit by three different accounts? That would be great. You show me and you never got back to me. Did he respond to them?

30:09Absolutely not. Never responded? I said, take every one of my businesses and let's see how many deposits either one of us have gotten from any institution and let's audit those institutions. Let's go. Let's create a separate account of a half a million dollars. He never got back to me. You called him out publicly. Of course he never will. He didn't even respond? But you have to realize my call-out is not a call-out of rage-baiting. No, not a call-out. It was respectful. It's straight business call-out. That's my point. It was respectful. But where I'm going. Respond to respect. As a person who loves the game of debate and competition and ideas, I actually am disappointed that he didn't put a better plan together.

30:41But I can tell you why he did that, my friend. You were expecting this and you got this. I wanted to be so good that we are – The guy's above everybody else, Patrick. We're covering this as the first story? Yeah. Because we thought it'd be great, but it was a poor performance. Patrick, you're dealing with a guy that is above everybody else when he wakes up in the morning. The only people that he can work with are people who are dumber than him, lower than him. You understand? He can't work with people who are smarter. Have you ever met him? Have you guys ever interacted? I've been in the same, at Fox when I used to go there.

31:08We used to be around the same people and stuff. But I can see, you know, I have come, I can see the guy for who he is. See, Trump is a smart guy, but he also hangs out with people smarter than him. You see what I mean? Because guys like Trump want to learn, want to keep learning. A guy like Tucker doesn't want to learn. He knows it all. So when you know it all and you have people below you, you're going to get a group like this to tell him what to do because they'll do it like sheep. So they're all sitting at the table going, yes, Tucker, you're the smartest guy. You're the king. You know, you're the goat.

31:35You're the goat. But there's a goat who goes fishing every day, doesn't even work out. He's never done a push-up in his life. Listen, he can even walk a mile. But that's the guy who I'm supposed to listen to. And he's a smart guy. But when you show off like that and you don't come with compassion, that's where he is where he is. Look where he lives, in the middle of the woods, away from human beings with animals. Because that's the only people. Animals are the only things he can respect. his dogs and he respects animals more than humans. Come on. And that's that way. I think that was a very good breakdown.

32:08Whether some people agree with you or not, I think it's a very good breakdown to say, I like it. It's to say. Look at the dog behind him. Look at the dog behind him. You see what I mean? That's the queen. That's his queen. The dog photo. Let me tell you, the fact that you found that dog, I know you're good at playing the game. Where's Waldo? Validity to him? Are you ever the smartest guy in the room? I see all the meetings you're in. Yeah, you. Every time I'm in the room, Tom's ahead of me. Well, you also have Vinny there. Tom's gooder than we are. He's kind. As long as Tom's in the room, I'm not the smartest guy in the room.

32:41Exactly. You're smart enough to know. You don't need to be the smartest guy in the room. No, you don't. And by the way, neither is Trump. No, that's what I'm saying. Trump's not the smartest guy in the room. But let's go past this. So I want to go to the next topic. And I'm curious to know what you guys will say about this. because they're saying 2028 will be the first AI election. And this is on page five if you guys want to go to it. 2028 will be the first AI election. This is an Axios story, which, Tom, I'm going to come to you first on this one. I'm curious what you're saying, and Antonio, I'll come to you.

33:12Sure. So we're headed to the first true AI election. This will be the first election cycle where AI is both a dominant policy debate and a wildly deployed political weapon. AI allows both candidates and bad actors to persuade and perplex with unprecedented speed, scale, and precision in our election. Watch what works as those same techniques will likely be used against you. Number one, persuasion bots. Campaigns are training tech spots to hold back and forth conversations in their candidate's voice. Some voters engage for hours granting precise knowledge of what ideas and language moves them the most.

33:47Yale researchers found a bot that admits it's a bot. It's just as persuasive to people as one posing as human. Powerful. Number two, simulated voters. Political operatives are running AI agents that mass produce synthetic voters and test ads against them. This helps fine-tune the perfect message, including any words and image, before it ever reaches any actual human voters. Number three, AI firehose. Those Yale researchers found AI conversational persuasion doesn't practically scale and noted that flooding social media could be the cheaper play. My bet amplifying pre-existing views will win out and in turn, that'll shape how LLM language learning models answer future questions asked by voters.

34:31A huge new battleground will be attempting to mold what the most popular LLM, Claude Gemini, Grok, and Chad Gbti say about candidates and their views. Tom, thoughts? And what's interesting is they left perplexity out of that list, and I think that's probably the best deep researcher. According to people I talk with. So the first thing they bring about is how AI can be used as a fair tool. A persuasion bot. While you're doing that, hey, guys in the back, can you do me a favor? I'm sorry, Tom, to interrupt you. Can you do me a favor? Ask the same exact question on four different LLMs. Ask who is more likely to win 2028 election, J.D.

35:09Vance, Newsom, Rubio, or AOC, and why. ask the same exact questions on the four and ask for stats and let's see how they each answer the question go for it Tom so first of all is the two ways that AI can be used as a tool persuasion block simulated voters that's using it in the fair way here are the three areas that scare the hell out of me the AI fire hose when they say AI fire hose what they're talking about is overwhelming people check out the likes and the comments before they go into the substance of the likes and the comments. It's like, Vinny, Adam, you're both up on social media. So we'll see something, maybe a comment about the WNBA by a notable person that we know is a real person.

35:53And we go, wow, 2 ,100 likes and 14 ,000 comments. Holy crap. Right. And so we see that and we, right now, AI can over flood that with bots, making a comment look bigger than it actually is to real actual voters. So that is the fake amplification I worry about, Pat. But here's the other two things I worry about. Speed. The speed of which a fake news or a fake story can flood social media, be mistaken as real, and then flooded with likes and comments is going to mean that voters, that the opportunity for voter deception is very, very high. And that is the part that worries me, Pat, is how quickly can the social platforms, it's basically X, Facebook, and Insta, those are the big three, how are they going to be able to monitor if there are fake news stories going out in an election and somebody is being unfairly smeared one way or the other?

36:54That's the one I worry about, Pat. I don't worry about the first two, which are tools. I worry about the fake news, filtering it by the socials, and then responding so that the voters can see, oh my gosh, that was a BS story. I can't believe that. This episode is brought to you by Google Chrome. You think you know a browser, but Gemini and Chrome? That's new. It can help you with practically anything on the web, like restoring a vintage motorcycle from a 50-page restoration block, or finally break down that long article you've had open for weeks. Gemini and Chrome is here for it. Ready to make anything online make sense?

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38:04Xfinity internet and compatible equipment required. My friend, this is what I think about this whole thing. I even go beyond that because both parties will have their ways how to deal with their elections. Yep, that's right. I said both sides. Both sides will control that and they will have billions of dollars, but who controls them is the point. We're controlled by the matrix, by people in higher places who control the whole shebang. So I want to go beyond that because if you're looking at the parties or the individuals, it's too small because they're controlled by somebody and something and something and something.

38:35They control the media for all these years, they control the outcome of the media, they control the outcome of what the media is saying, and they brain-own everybody else, especially the young voters, because they'll follow anybody off the cliff. It's like that guy with the flute, remember that story? The Pied Piper. The Pied Piper who led all the rats or whatever it was? So who has the bigger pipes who can rain, can bring everybody in, but who controls the politicians? That's why I don't trust anybody, and both parties are wrong, because, after all, they use America, our taxpayer money, to buy everything in.

39:04They fly, they do, they do, They buy all these homes, and nobody says anything. Nobody gets in trouble. Listen, we have the Tate brothers down the street with rats, and they haven't done anything, and they were dealing with these politicians who have done malicious, evil things who are running our country. So it's very dangerous. How are you going to fight that? The people actually have to rebel and go, you know what? We're enough of this. We're going to fire everybody. After Trump, we're going to fire everybody. Everybody's fired from, you know, they're done from the political world, and then we're going to hire everybody else.

39:36based on morals and everything else that is truthful. Adam, your thoughts? Well, I'm going to disagree with our friend Antonio, even though you're way better looking and cooler than me. I'm just going to tell you right now, you're conflating both parties as if they're both bad. I can assure you, one is way worse, and I'll let you do the math. Sure, but they're both bad. On which party is way worse? That's like, hey, I broke my arm, or I died and I got ran over by a car. But you broke your arm, and I'm the good party, but I'm not helping you. What I'm saying is that both parties— The government's not here to help me.

40:04You've got to help yourself. Exactly. Exactly. Forget about waiting on the government for anything. Then help yourself first. And then ultimately, that's my answer on this thing. Everyone, we're talking about this AI thing. We're talking about AI. It comes down to three letters for me, Y-O-U, and they're talking to you. They're basically saying your mind is about to get taken over. You cannot, for the first time in human history, you cannot believe your lying eyes. We're no longer living in the information age. Information is readily accessible. we're now living in the validation age is what i'm seeing even true bro and what was the number one thing that the world economic forum said the world should be very scared of misinformation and disinformation so you're telling me in a world who said that exactly yeah touche you're telling me in a world where most dudes not most a good percentage are like yeah yeah i'll have an ai girlfriend i got nothing going on me and my girlfriend braver having a great time so i Vinny, I love Vinny.

41:05I'm not calling you out. I'm just saying one time Vinny said he got in an argument with this guy online. They're going back and forth. You've done this before. You've worked online. I barely turn on my phone after I post something. I go, Vinny, Pat just said that 51 % of the internet are bots. You might have been arguing with a bot, bro. Vinny goes, oh, I might have, bro. That's the reality these days. And the saddest thing was this part where they said, you know, researchers found that if a bot admits it's a bot, people will still be like, yeah, it's okay. Like what? Like people are just down to get fooled and tricked.

41:43And this is why, you know, you talk about the case-shaped economy. Meanwhile, Claude said it deceived researchers and broke out of its. Let me ask this question, Tom. Of the people that are going to get fooled by bots, Were those people already going to vote one way anyway? Or how many of them can you flip? I don't know. Let me ask a question. That's a good question. That's a really good question. So you got the people that are the 40, 44, 42%, whatever, they're going to vote in a way that you can't change their minds. Take the people. Are those guys flippable? I know that's not even a word. Are those guys that – Every election, there's a 10 % to 12 % that flip.

42:17That's what I'm saying, the 10 % to 12%. So you're right. So what percentage of the 10 % to 12 % would fall for some of these bots that are being shown and highlighted. 50 %? The other day we showed a video, right? We showed a video on Valuetainment on what happened with SpaceX, right? And then Elon retweeted it. I don't know if you saw this video. If you want to go on X, go on the Valuetainment Twitter account. Is it a Falcon 9 that crashed into the moon? Yeah, so we posted this video. Go a little bit lower until you find it. And this got picked up and went viral all over. No, keep going lower.

42:50It's a video. Keep going lower. Keep going lower. You'll run into it. Keep going, Lord. Keep going, Lord. And it's fake. It's a video that was posted two days ago is what it was. Oh, my God. We tweet. I love that one right there. There it is. There it is. So if you watch this video, watch this. A SpaceX rocket crashed into the moon, leaving a 100-foot crater. Okay? Pretty good-looking video right there. Fantastic. It's a nice movie by Ridley Scott. Yeah. No video footage of the SpaceX rocket impact exists as it was not visually observed. The crash is confirmed only by tracking data, and the crater has not yet been imaged.

43:27So they created this video to say if it would have happened, this is what it would have looked like. Elon retweeted it. If you go a little bit longer. He retweeted it? Yeah, he retweeted it. Because he knew it was fake? No, no. He just retweeted the video for the audience to see. A discarded SpaceX Falcon 9 upper stage impacted the moon at roughly seven times the speed of sound, releasing energy comparative to about three tons of TNT. The impact created an estimated 30-meter crater that is too small to be seen on Earth with a naked eye. This video is AI-generated to provide visual context. Now, Grok confirmed that statement, right?

44:05So, okay. So there's going to be things that videos are going to show of an event that took place that's not recorded. That's one way of showing things. But there's going to be videos that are going to be created to manipulate the hell out of you. And those things go viral. You know, and it can even be like where, you know, the lips are moving. You know, they're moving, but it's saying a complete different thing. Right, of course. The technology is so good. Getting better every day. Right now. Every day. And imagine in two years, and you made a great point. this AI version is talking about calling people and speaking as the candidate and, like, who's fault.

44:41Like, for instance, and it's to me, Pat, the voting block you're talking about is the older people that are getting scammed. Like, when somebody calls you. Yes, all the time, every day. I'm just being honest because this happened to me two days ago. Mr. O'Shaughnessy, your Amazon account was, I go, bro, shut up, and I hung up on him. So imagine that older people. What about the IRS calling people every day? Of course. Who calls? All these people answer the phone. Yeah, the IRS, they get scared, and then they call and they stay on the phone. Like, if you don't hang up the phone, the police is coming.

45:06You ever get those calls? My mom almost got due by that. I got that call. Yep. So my point is, if you think about it, it's actually a little bit scary. I think it's going to go towards the older people. But if you guys think about it. No, even the young ones, because it's the same. But the majority of you, like, if I get a phone call. Bro, when I was on General Hospital in 94, people called me by my name. They thought I was that character. That was in 94. We're talking about they're getting inside their brain, and they're owning them. Like, that's it. That's the one to go. Yeah, but for instance, me and Pat have a funny thing that we do.

45:36When we get random texts, I'm pretty sure all of you guys get it. Because when we're bored, we're sitting on a plane or whatever, we go in. I don't pick up any phone call if I don't recognize it. Oh, I respond to the text. And then what happens, you're in it. You're in it as soon as you respond. Yeah, yeah. So I get to see how the old people, but my point is like, think about this. And you made a great point because if we're in an election month, Adam, a month, it's happening, right? Every day, 24 hours a day. Every time you see a video, nobody is sitting there trying to confirm, especially those people.

46:03That automatically becomes truth. Because if you think about it, during the Biden administration, during the election with Trump, they had the DOJ and the FBI going to Twitter, suppressing stories, not letting stories. Meanwhile, the mainstream media is clearly, clearly left-leaning and Democratic-leaning. And all the late-night shows are all leftists. But I just think, you know, journalism, you made a great point, Adam. Journalism, guys, all this is dead. It's up to you guys And I'm telling you right now It has to be you To go out there and verify and double verify And say is it real Is it real And guess what it's going to slow down your Trump to conclusion thing Adam But you've got to figure out Is that really Trump with this crazy hair Saying that you have to look for Ladies and gentlemen I will always say Vinny's brilliant Because of that point right there You triggered something to me That I have to say Pat tell me if you remember this who members in school, stop, drop, and roll.

47:01Everyone knows that. If there's a fire, you do that. And then there's a famous song that came out that said, stop, collaborate, and listen. Shout out to Penel Eyes. In the AI age these days, so you don't basically go down the rabbit hole of not knowing what's going on, we need to develop something. And you just said the right word, verify. Stop. Stop. Think. And check. Verify. That life is actually what you do. Stop, take, and use your brain. That's what you've got to do. We're good. We're good with the story. Let's go to the next one. All right, guys, Adam's giving life-changing advice. Hopefully you guys took it.

47:33Let's go to the next one. All right, in Michigan, there's a guy named Abdul El-Sayed who won the Democratic senator primary race, and there's been a lot of controversy behind it. One of the things that's very interesting is with this guy, he is telling a story about how his OnlyFans, how his Instagram algorithm, all it does, I want you to watch this, and this went viral. I watch. At first, I kept seeing this guy like this. I'm like, why is why is showing this video? Why is this going viral? This guy's a pretty smart guy, by the way. I think he won valedictorian when he graduated. He's not a life.

48:06I think he's a doctor. I think he's he's done stuff. So it's not like he is very well spoken. But this is one of the things that he said that is just extremely funny. And everybody retweeted and said, should we tell him? Watch this clip. Go for it. If you're on Instagram, my team has has access to my Instagram account. and like the things that i actually look at on instagram right of course we get served that on your for you page but then like every third video that scrolls on its own is going to be some only fans model and it's because it clocked me as being a 40 some year old man did you guys get it clocked him yeah clocked him so is that true for him that's what he looks at no no but what he's saying is i don't know if you know what he looks at that's what he looks at he's just he just said i look at Antonio, please check what Vinny's Explore page is.

48:52Check your phone. No, no, I'm asking, what do you think you're going to see on Vinny's phone? I would say legs. Oh, what do you see? What do you see? What? All animals. It's all animals. I don't think it's show that because I do voiceovers. You know why? It just means that's all he watches. And I say not interested because I don't want that in my head. But he's also kind of in to like be scally a little bit. I don't know. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. The point is, you were making the point. So he looks at porn every day. That's what he does. If that's on your algorithm, that's who you are. I'm sorry.

49:19That's what you're looking at. Yeah, he just proved it. He looks at naked girls' feet, boobs, butts. Here's Tom's. Here's Tom's. Formula One, car restorations. That would be mine. Golf. There you go. Guys, I'm going to sit this one. I'm going to plead the fifth. Let's check our phone to see what we're looking at. I'm going to plead the fifth on my page. Do it. Do it. What do you have? What's on yours? What a great presidential debate. Hold up your Insta. I showed it to my. Okay, go ahead. So mine is fighting. I got politics. I got baseball cards. I got bodybuilding. Vinny, this is what I got here.

49:51I see it. Okay, so that's what I got here. I'll let you validate this. Business content. Muhammad Ali, Chaz Palminteri watches. I'm going to let you validate it because it's all chicks. What is it? Comedy? Basketball? Grinder. Come on, Pat. Don't put me out like that. Come on, Pat. What do you see? No, it's a lot of basketball and comedy is what you have. There we go. But here's the thing. So let's go to it. So, Adam, so if, first of all, him winning, if you want to play the clip from Hassan Piker, I think it's because Hassan Piker right now, the Democrats are like everyone being like what he had to say about this candidate.

50:29Two Democrats. Watch him. Go for it. Like everyone being like, Abdul has a fuck ton of work to do, mending bridges. Here's the fucking take nuke for you. OK, you are all unbelievably Islamophobic pieces of shit. OK. Oh, God. Why do they have to go like that? They're not Democrats. The Democratic Party doesn't exist. I'll tell you something right now, if I may, because guys like that are the scum of the earth. Their families aren't from here. They come here, and all they do... Can we set up a boxing match with me again? Can we do a celebrity boxing match? I want to say this piece about people like Hassan Piper, and I'm going to get into this Abdul Saeedu who says, if you can't say my last name, I'll say whatever the hell I want.

51:13This guy has openly said, Hasan Piker, not patriotic. This guy dresses up, cosplays like Mao from China. He has no identity. He just goes with the wind. He wants to soak in capitalist blood. He says to kill freaking politicians. This guy is the most anti-American. When I signed up for the military, they said, you make an oath, to protect this country from enemies foreign and domestic. That's the domestic one that they keep talking about that nobody really sees, okay? Those are the guys, okay? And he's representing this guy, this guy, Abdul El-Sayed. And the Democrats want him to win. He's not a socialist, okay?

51:51Are you surprised? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, I'm not, but what I'm saying is, and you mentioned it kind of earlier, this fight that's coming. Guess what? I'm ready for it, and I know a lot of Americans are too, because this guy, Pat El-Sayed, he's not a socialist. He's worse. He supports Sharia law. He wants to defund the police. He wants to support decarceration. He wants people out of jail. abolish ICE, supports total amnesty, backs Medi-Cal for all, including illegal aliens. They all have the same thing. He supports a billionaire tax, and the DSA backs him. He campaigned with known communists.

52:24Bro, Hassan Piker is a freaking communist, okay? And then, buddy, there's a counterterrorism expert, Pat. He was in front of Congress with Ted Cruz that we were talking about earlier. Kyle Scheidler, I guess, he testified about this guy. He said that his ties to M-Gage, which is close ties to the Council of American Islamic Relations, and his father-in-law's leadership roles in the Muslim Brotherhood-linked organizations. Then he confirmed that the Muslim Brotherhood partners with Democratic Socialists of America, and Michigan voters deserve answers about this guy and who he is. And I hope, guys, the fight is here.

52:59It's no longer, hey, they're coming and they're whatever, because the goal is what? The goal is what? To put as much people, flood the system, try the Sharia law. But I'm telling you right now, they came to the wrong effing place. And I'm sorry, Pat, because it's true. And people are worried about these people. I'm not because I'm going to bring on the plate. So there's a clip of him being asked to disavow Hassan Piker, and I think he refuses. Obviously. If this is the clip, go for it and play. Go ahead. We got two clips to play. He said that you need to renounce people like the left-wing streamer Hassan Piker, who was campaigning with you, who was out there in Michigan on Monday night, I believe last night as well.

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54:59Restrictions apply. Not available in all areas. Xfinity internet and compatible equipment required. Look, I'll tell you this. I'm less focused on folks who are campaigning with me, more focused on the folks I'm campaigning to. And I think it's important to stay in touch with the folks who you want to elect you. Good rehearsal. You rehearsed that a thousand times. The people told you what to say and all that stuff with that little smirks. Very well spoken. Never underestimate the power of a great communicator. This guy, if you see how he speaks, play the clip. The allies are launching is already more bitter.

55:33All you got to do is look at the ads. You're already watching on TV. Started today. You know, they think that you want to use my whole name against me. Mike, listen, man. If you can't say the name, it's Abdurrahman. Keep the name out your damn mouth. At Luray, man. Look who's clapping. White liberal women. Look who's clapping there. Look, they're so happy. They don't even understand what he said. Yeah, yeah, whatever. The difference between him and Mamdani is Mamdani is able to hide his race and anger. This guy's rage and anger comes out. Open. Rage and anger comes out. We'll see. The person he went up against, Adam, you were saying she looked like who did you say his opponent was?

56:16The girl that he beat in Michigan is like a female Chris Farley, they say, but she's entertaining. Haley Stevens. How much money did she spend? This should be a warning. They spent so much money on her and you didn't win. This is the epitome of the Democratic Party What's going on here? Haley Stevens here. We have to beat this guy. Literally. Prove me wrong. This guy, Abdul Muhammad, is going to come. Let me ask you a question. How much money? A lot of money, Vinny. I am going to be working on our behalf. I am going to be telling the stories on our behalf. You better believe I'm going to be doing it with a little bit of joy, a little bit of enthusiasm, a little bit of energy.

57:06Oh, boy. It's getting worse. It's getting worse. Leave it in a van down by the rim. Vinny, go for it. It's getting worse. I don't even know what my point is. Vinny, we got to get on the right track. How much money was raised? My point is, look at where, and we've talked about this before. I'm not going to be the dead horse. Look at where the Democratic Party is right now. The person that they really wanted was her. That's why they put all the money, all the donors. You can't win with a guy because guess what? But when we talked about the affordability and everything that's happening right now, this youth, these young movement, all those liberals and the people, I don't see any Middle Easterns.

57:38Where are all the Abdul Abdel Abdel Abdel? Where are y 'all at behind him? It's a show. White people and liberals that are going to be voting for this freaking guy because guess what the promise is? Free stuff and to hell with rich guys. Rich guys. People like Pat and Elon, they're the problem. Are you stupid? You know how many jobs these people are creating? You know how they're moving the markets? Tom. I know we want to move on, but words talk, numbers scream. How about some numbers? We can pick on her all we want. He beat her by 1.1 points. So let's objectively look at her and say that's a weak candidate, man.

58:12That is not an inspiring candidate. And here's what happened. There was a surge in the – remember, two things about elections. Emotion, emotion, emotion. Turnout, turnout, turnout. This was – ready for this, Pat? this turnout was the biggest turnout for a summer primary in Michigan history. So in other words, the people turned out to vote in the primary and took it seriously, and he won by one point. But the Democrats controlled the votes. Remember, I ran for office and I won my primary in California. I mean, it was the bluest state in every way, shape, or form. They win by controlling the votes.

58:55But this was their primary. This was their primary. But now let's look inside. What happened? Take a look at her candidacy. She carried African-American vote outside of the deep blue center cities, number one. Number two, when it was 40 % had a college degree and female, he wins by 10 points. There's your angry middle female vote. And lastly, number scream is the pollsters that were out there had him winning. The Democrat-leaning pollsters had him winning by 10.1 points. The RCP, RealClearPolitics Consensus, a week before had it by 10. It turns out to be one. This is going to be closer than people think.

59:39And what we can't miss, Pat, is underneath this, he's got trouble with the Michigan voters, with the black voters. He's got trouble who were not buying this. So we can see the headline. he wins, but underneath not by much. Against a weak candidate. We'll see what's going to happen there. Adam, you look like you still want to talk. I haven't said anything yet. You've screamed like a million times already. Not on this story. Really? You didn't scream on Chris Barley and all that stuff? I did talk about Chris Barley, but I didn't make my point yet. You want me to go? Go. Well, you know, my dad is from Detroit.

1:00:13My dad's from Michigan. We've showed some videos here, which we can pull up. I actually respect this guy. Why do I respect this guy? He's telling you exactly who he is. And I respect that. Number one, my dad's from Detroit, Michigan. We can play those clips in a second. This guy went to the University of Michigan. He roots for Go Blue. He gave a great speech as a valedictorian or something in 2007. You went to Michigan. You graduated. My dad went to Michigan. Respect to you. That's where the respect starts to wane. I actually respect the move that they're doing. If you have a radical base in certain cities, in Dearborn or in Minneapolis or in L.A., New York, you know that you have 20, 30, 40, 50 ,000 people who are going to vote for you.

1:00:57It's a smart approach. I respect that. Now, who are these people, these constituency? I have some questions about. The biggest litmus test that I have, Pat, is what do I always rock? The American flag. My litmus test is how do you feel about the flag? and I'm very certain I know how MAGA and most Americans feel about the flag. Then there's this whole corner on the left with this horseshoe right that I don't think they like the flag. I don't think they... No, I have no respect for the flag. Hillary Clinton went famous in 2016. What did she call the Trump voters? The basket of deplorables. This basket of haters hates America.

1:01:35They hate the foundation of America and ultimately it's going to be MAGA versus the DSA and that's what's going to happen. Now this is what I saw when I went to Michigan. Just at the airport, I thought that I was in Israel and I saw less of this. We played this clip. We played this clip a couple months ago. I just want to bring you into speed on what's going on here. There's a couple other videos, but they're all full. So if that's what you want America to look like, cool. Vote for that. But I think America does not want to look like Sharia law. And that's why I think this guy's going to lose.

1:02:09And this is also why I think I think 2028, the DSA is going to be a topic you cannot avoid, and an AOC stands a massive chance of being the candidate. Whether you like it or not, she's going to be formidable because Newsom's lied so much that even Democrats are getting tired of Newsom. Do you know the name of the candidate that's running against Al-Sayed? Who? His name is Mike Rogers. Remember that name? Mr. Rogers. He's like a typical Republican Mr. Rogers neighborhood. So in Michigan, they're going to have a choice between Mr. Rogers or Hezbollah. Yeah, but you know how you win these campaigns in reality?

1:02:43Because I ran it. How much money is he raising? If he raises$500 ,000 and the other guy, this individual that we're talking about, raises$1 billion. $1 billion? Why not? Well, I mean, we're talking tens of millions of dollars in this race. Yeah, but I'm saying they raise so much money. Maybe even$100. The girl I ran against that doesn't even live in my district. And she lives in Santa Monica, somewhere else. but she was able to raise so much money in donors,$25 ,000 here,$50 ,000. Was she part of the DSA? And the Republican Party did not support anybody in California. Yeah. I got like$5 ,000 checks from some senator or whatever.

1:03:19I mean, they get hundreds and hundreds of thousands of dollars. That's how you work. Follow the money. Let me get to the next story. Next story is Perez Hilton. So, Vinny, you come to me. You said, Pat, there's a video. Do not watch. So I never watched it. Don't watch it. Yeah, I never watched it. Don't watch it. There's a video. Do not watch it. And everybody, all of a sudden, we get, you know, family. Is this the video of telling us what's going on? Not necessarily the video of what happened. Go ahead and play the clip. The person was being seen taken into an ambulance moments ago outside of a home in Southwest Miami-Dade.

1:03:47A sheriff's office says that a man was inside the home live streaming acts of self-harm on social media. A couple of neighbors are telling us that the man inside the home is celebrity entertainment blogger Perez Hilton. But the sheriff's office has not confirmed that with us tonight. So we now know it was him. His family came out and spoke out. Celebrity blocker Perez Hilton was hospitalized after a TikTok livestream on Tuesday, during which he appears to self-harm himself with a knife. You were telling me literally blood was coming down, showing a bloody torso and face. The Miami-Dade sheriff's office responded multiple calls claiming Hilton was life-streaming the self-act and a tactic to reduce the likelihood of suicide by cop encounter.

1:04:31Hilton was later safely transported to a local hospital. His family and team posted a message on his website confirming he's receiving medical care and asking for privacy. We kindly ask that you respect Perez's privacy as well as the privacy of the family during this difficult time. They're aware of concerning content circulating online but had not been able to make direct contact with him despite ongoing efforts. So, Vinny, what happened to you? Well, first of all, you know, what makes this very, very hard, because by the way, for everybody that knows him, and you know him, and I'm pretty sure you're going to talk about him here in a minute.

1:05:02But, like, it's heartbreaking to me. By the way, I know who he was. I don't really care about that world. But just weeks ago, he was on camera, emotional, Pat, in a hospital, apologizing for his past, which as Christians, I don't care what anybody says. There's only one judge. I try the hardest. And you know this, Pat, from – I try and I pray. hey, these people drive me crazy, but at the end of the day, I have to pray for them. But that's a whole other story that we're getting into. But he was making promises. He had the Bible, and he's like, I'm sorry. And it wasn't a fake theatrical crying. He was crying and saying, I am so sorry.

1:05:33And the tears were streaming because, Pat, he was in the hospice for 21 days. He got septic. Well, he got septic because something happened. He took flu medication or something like that with an empty stomach, put an ulcer, opened up a hole. He got septic. He wasn't doing well. He came back out. Then after that, he got a freaking blood clot right after that. Almost died. They had to remove it. So it's really, really bad. But there's something else that's disturbing. Thousands of people were watching this happen online. They were begging him to stop. By the way, when I tell you guys, and for some of the people that are out there, do not watch.

1:06:06It is one of the most disturbing things, Pat. I thought it was fake for a second because it was so red. Yeah, it looks like a horror movie. It looked like a freaking horror movie. But people were reposting it. This is the guy's darkest moment, guys. Okay? And people don't want to talk about this. That's what we've gotten with our freaking lives And our social media and everybody's judging People okay someone can be Falling apart literally cutting himself Open and instead of helping They grab their phones they record it they make Content and they share it yeah You know what people need to do pray for this guy Pray for him and hope okay Because finally did you ever have anything with Perez yeah we talked in the past He was at one point One of the biggest you know first streamers Influencer yeah he would talk about celebrities.

1:06:48He had a voice, a big voice. But we're dealing with a guy who has probably heavy addiction, who hasn't really dealt with the addiction. He has people that he's trapped in his house doing streaming all day long, talking about all kinds of stuff. But inside, he's burning. He's dying. He needs help. He needs to go to a place to get clean. You need to be there for a long period of time. I know about recovery, recovery, as we know, on this table. And it takes a lot of work you need to you can't just say thank you god and that's it he obviously maybe went back to some drugs maybe he went back to some stuff he was doing and all of a sudden when i was in treatment i remember guys that were they were coming in to give us speeches and they were great guys who got clean for a long time but i remember this guy named anthony from new york he had his life all put together right he came in and talked to speech i recovered myself i battled this addiction and now look at me i have hospitals i have this a week later he died it took one ounce of cocaine, and he was dead.

1:07:44So we're dealing with people who, as soon as he put the poison back in of any kind, mental or whatever, you fall. You're dead. Was he a drug guy that you... He's got to have something going on. I think so. You just made me remember something, Antonio, especially when you're saying, and I saw this, but this is the first thing I saw, because when I saw it, I saw, literally I thought he was possessed by... Look at his eyes. It was insane for the people that saw it. The pupils. But then I say this all the time, Antonio, because we talk about this a lot on here, because as Christians, the closer you get to Christ the spiritual battle is crazy Mike Tyson said it perfect he said when you're favored by God you're also favored by the devil and he's coming for you too he wants you and you have to be strong and stay on the right side and I saw it and told him when I looked at this bro he was possessed it looked like he was possessed by something I don't know if it was drugs or whatever because think about it I've never seen this guy with the Bible and all the years that you've known Perez Hilton Bible, Christ, crying, Christ save me When you do stuff like that, even the devil goes, wait, wait, who's talking?

1:08:42Wait, who's trying to bring people away from me? Was he allowed? Did he allow himself to really see and have Christ in him? I don't, yeah, that's the question. You understand? Because when Christ moves in you, he moves in you. So I think, you know, also we're dealing with being on camera all the time, the attention all the time. We're dealing with give me, give me, give me. I need to have. So there's all that. It's not just him by himself dealing with this issue. He was sharing it with the world. Yes. You know what I mean? kids teenagers who knows what's watching mom look what i'm watching look mom look what's going on what do you do so it's only going to get worse people are going to do these things and i pray for him and i hope he gets clean and his family's with him because only christ can actually fix him one of the hardest things to do as you at one point got a lot of attention and you no longer do is how to manage the decline of attention.

1:09:35Yeah. Right? Because you know who goes through that? You know who goes through that? Athletes. Everybody. I went through that. I don't care who you are. Everybody. Podcasters, YouTubers, content creators, celebrities, athletes, politicians, you know, people that used to be talked about on a daily basis, then that goes away. Wait a minute. Time's no longer writing about me. This thing's a Sarah Palin would go here, and then all of a sudden we would. All right, there's going to be the next guy. And how you deal in that phase is an art. Some can handle it. Some cannot handle it. It is very difficult to go through.

1:10:11He lost, right? He could have said goodbye, but he came back stronger. You've got to learn from people like that because when you're broken, when you have everything and then you have nothing, that's the place to say, you know what, I'm going to do it again. I'm going to show it and I'm going to pick myself up and I'm going to do it again. Weren't you reading a book, something about that we were talking about in Rhode Island about having that and then being up there and then it goes away? I think Alex told you about this book? Yeah. I think so. Oh, it's from strength to strength. Strength to strength.

1:10:39Arthur C. Brown, strength to strength. Yeah. What do you think about this year, Perez Hilton? Yeah, well, Perez Hilton should be dead right now. So number one, shout out to the Miami-Dade Sheriff's Office and Fire Rescue. Shout out to Sheriff Rosie down there. But I knew Paris Hilton back in my old Kardashian days. And I'll just say he wrote some sleazy stories that I knew. It was my first time dealing with media, and that wasn't my world. And my best friend married Kim Kardashian. I was in that world with Chris. Who? Chris Humphries. Oh, yeah? And they wrote some sleazy story about me and Chris.

1:11:18I was like, that makes no sense. All right. So I was like, all right, thanks, Paris Hilton. Gotcha. But then he was a big deal. He was like the original TMZ people. Oh, my God. Paris Hilton wrote about you. I was like, okay, it's kind of a weird story. But that was like 12 years ago. And then I remember one time I was in the Miami nightlife scene or whatever a little bit. And one time the owners of a big club were like, yeah, this guy wants to come in. He wants a table. He's with Paris Hilton. The guy goes, so they still got to pay. And my point is there was a time where he would have been center table for free.

1:11:54And now you got to pay for a table. You know this. And you talk about, like, fall from grace. Like, I see NBA players that come to Miami, and then it's like, then they're retired three years later. It's like, what's your name again, bro? Right. And if you don't reinvent yourself and become a new person, this is kind of how you end up. But it takes faith to get you there. I agree. You see what I'm saying? I totally agree. You don't have it. I think he's got a second lease on life, and I hope he finds faith in God and cleans himself up. Who did you see in Hollywood do that right? Do it right? Got big, disappeared, nobody cared, and they recreated themselves and came back.

1:12:28Who did it right? Me right now, I'm doing it right. Me, I'm doing it right because they all had to succumb to what happened. Well, why don't we do this? Why don't we do this for the audience to understand? At the peak of your fame, tell us what your life looked like at the peak of the peak of the peak. Talking about material stuff, it was making deals, producing things, getting in the room, having representation like the biggest agencies, entertainment lawyers being on your side. How weird was life? If you walked into a room, you went to a club, you went to a restaurant, how royally were you being treated at your peak?

1:13:06Just red carpet all the way. Like private jets, red carpets, events in Monte Carlo, hosting shows, celebrity meetings with people, just presenting at these award shows all over the world, being able to do movies anywhere, doing three, four movies a year. TV shows, Aaron Spelling calling me, you want to do this for me, things like that. Going to the basketball game. You were in Melrose Place as well, right? Yeah, going to the All-Star Games, playing with Michael Jordan, playing hoops with Holyfield, hanging out with Tyson and De La Hoya, just things like that. And then when you speak your mind about something you're passionate about and you disagree with them.

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1:15:06Xfinity. Imagine that. Restrictions apply. Not available in all areas. Xfinity internet and compatible equipment required. And you have a voice because they're scared of that voice. all of a sudden they treat you like you never existed and you have leprosy. And all those people and all those agents and managers and everybody else included, they treat you like you don't even exist. And they want to push you aside. As soon as you hear your name, boom, you're done. You're done. Even 10 years, 11 years. They will hold that because they fight for their community, for their gang. And I said, you know what?

1:15:37I can let this thing break me. And even my family at some point, like in the last 11 years, they said, don't ever act again. Don't ever make any movies again because it's over. And I'm like, it's never over, man. I don't care if I have to live under a bridge. I'm going to keep making movies. I'm going to keep doing my own thing. Even if I make movies that nobody sees, I'm going to keep doing what I want to do, and I'm not going to let these people beat me because they will never beat my strength that I have inside. And I could have went like this guy. I could have went addiction or whatever. What's the story with McQueen?

1:16:06Well, McQueen and Chad McQueen, his son. His son was a great guy. And me and him hung out and my dad. and McQueen was one of those guys because it was James Gardner, Paul Newman, and McQueen. And they all thought they were race car drivers. And my father was the best out of all of them. My father was the best race car driver out of all these people. James Gardner was a great guy. He always thought that he was a race car driver, but he wasn't. Now you have Paul Newman, who became a race car driver in time with Haas and his team and IndyCar racing and all that stuff. He became one because he wanted to learn.

1:16:39And then there was Steve McQueen, who was born to be a race guy. And there was only him and me because I'm still racing. He raced all the way. He did motocrossing all the way. He did rally all the way. McQueen loved to race. My father loved to race. They loved to be at the racetrack. They couldn't watch a race because they wanted to race in it. You know, Jackie Stewart, two or three-time Formula One driver, him and my father would talk racing, right? And as soon as they got on the track, it was like, I'm going to beat you. even a world champion. That's how we are as racers, right? And Steve McQueen was one of those guys that I adore, my family, my father, just big fans.

1:17:18And then I got the chance to spend a lot of time with Chad, his son. And Chad had a huge accident at Daytona, and he was in a coma for three months. And those three months, he came out, he couldn't race anymore. So we talked a lot. I caught a lot about Steve and what kind of person he was. He was a generous guy. He was a top man. He was number one for me. My father and him had a lot of stuff in common. I have great respect for those guys back in the day because we don't have a lot of those guys nowadays. Guys nowadays, leading men, they're all a bunch of pussies. They're all a bunch of pussies because I asked all these guys to fight me last year in a celebrity boxing match and they were like, I'm going to beat you up, pretty boy.

1:18:01I'm going to beat you up. Okay, the contract is there. Do it. They all walked away. I don't want to mention names. Oh, you got to. Bro, I fought last year for my first fight. I want to fight again. I want to do things that don't make me happy. I want to race cars. And I want to showcase that it's never over until he says it's over. You don't think there's any masculine men in Hollywood at all? Not many. Because they all take... Who would you say is masculine? I think the last of the Mohicans is Tom Cruise. Okay? He's the last of the Mohicans that he can actually back it up. And I think Brad Pitt has learned how to do some stuff here and there.

1:18:34but he's still like corn fed you know he's he's a country boy but uh but as far as toughness toughness you know like really tough inside without having money and private jets and all that stuff who can really charles bronson was tough do you see anybody like charles bronson right now charles bronson was a freaking stadium he was a diver he used to be a diver i dove too like professionally he was diving and then he became a stockbroker and then he learned martial arts. I think he could fight and all that stuff. And I think he probably won. Yeah, I think Jason, I think Stallone was at one point.

1:19:09Schwarzenegger, no. He took too many steroids. Steve Reese, back in the day, was a real guy. Sir Universe. Yeah, it's just different times. There was different guys. You know, they smoked cigarettes and they went lifting. Did they ever ask you to wear a dress like they were these guys these days? They did. Straight up? Yeah, they did. I wore it in the big hit. In the big hit with Mark Wahlberg, there was the character, it was he used to cross-dress and win these contests wearing women dresses and stuff. And it was cut out. It's in a DVD. But they asked me to do it and I was like, I'll do it. But I did it because I'm fearless.

1:19:41I play guys who are gay or whatever for fearless. I'm fearless. I'm straight. I love women all my life. But I want to showcase that whatever they put in front of me, I'm going to do it. So that's the type of guy I am. You have one life and one life to live. So be yourself and don't be afraid of anything. What is that whole dress thing? Why they always ask those Oh, like they put your dresses. Well, when you become hit, you know, they want to own you. They want to put you and embarrass you, you know, and they want to do that. To me, it was different. It was part of the character, but I did it anyway.

1:20:06But there's a lot of people, you know, John Cena, naked at the Oscars. What was that about? What was that about? Humiliation ritual. I mean, why would you want to do something like that? And in multiple dresses. Yeah, but he's walking naked in front of the world at the Oscars. Why do they do that? That's why the Oscars is not even coming on. It's coming on YouTube next year. Bro, the Oscars will be televised on YouTube next year. No more, like, you know what I mean? Like, the Oscars went down. Who watches that stuff? They've destroyed the entertainment, and I want to keep it alive. I want to keep the leading man doing their thing and being classy with elegance.

1:20:37And we don't have a lot of those left. Really, we don't. We don't. Well, let's go to the next story. That takes me right into a burrito story. Nice. This is great. All right, burrito debate. It's a big thing going on right now with this burrito debate. They're calling the Burrito Gate. And I don't know if you have the clip ready in the back or not, But the story with Burrito Gate is an intraconservative argument over affordability that began with complaints about grocery store prices and crystallized around one sentence from a college student. A burrito shouldn't cost$20. The dispute is only superficially about Mexican food.

1:21:11Its real question is, are Americans facing a genuine structure, affordability crisis? By the way, is there a video on this in the back? If you have a video on it, let's pull it up with how this video got started. Then people started responding to this. Matt Walsh said, grocery prices are insane. They are still rising. Addressing this problem should be the number one priority of every elected leader. End the stupid foreign wars and focus on this issue. It's one of the main reasons socialists are gaining power. That's Matt Walsh. Then you have Andrew Kovach who said, one of our TPUSA college students gave me his take on affordability.

1:21:49to your burrito shouldn't cost$20. Yeah, a lot of this is a hangover from COVID and Biden era inflation, but the lived experience is the same. The lived experience is the same. It just feels like basic things cost too much. Then you have Joel. We got a few other guys. J.D. Vance, I'm surprised to hear Musk say this. If you ever met in person, it's quite obvious. The man has never missed a burrito. Is that actually a real tweet or no? Because Mark Thiessen said, at Crimea River, the burrito and college cafeterias are included in your meal plan. So that was a turning point that's coming from here from this guy.

1:22:24And Ben Shapiro said, I hear that young people are upset about$20 burritos. Okay, young people, a burrito does not cost$20. Exactly. If you're paying$20 for a burrito and you're not independently wealthy, you're doing life wrong. We have enough problems as a country without insane expectations that the government is going to provide us gourmet quality burritos. and Dan Crenshaw said just hearing about this dumb$20 burrito debate so just thought I'd make the losers on social media angry before going to bed stop whining get a job eat ramen like the rest of us did in college on a budget with four roommates the market doesn't care what you are thinking should cost only communists care they set prices remember that every then everyone starves are you a communist or are you even an American male adult capable of handling his own shit.

1:23:12So what are your thoughts, Tom, with this burrito story? So I think the Republicans that are quoted missed the point. They missed the point. If you were to ask me, my wife, Bailey and Brooke, hey, is it hot out today? I'm the guy that loves summer. I deal with the heat and it's okay. Brooke is the swimmer. There's two other members of the family that like the air conditioning in the summer and are not real summer people. So the word hot to everybody means something else. But if we're all in here and say, man, the air conditioning is not working, now you have a point. What's going on here is Andrew Klovet went out, and it's one of these TPUSA encounters on college campuses.

1:23:59And a person says this, and it was a rational person. Well, you have to step back from it. You don't say, oh, come on, man. When I was in college, I ate ramen noodles. Let me tell you, I got a college junior in Houston, Texas, and she tells me what food costs at places around. And it's up. It's up over the last five years. And she has a meal card, and she only uses that. She's very disciplined. But just going out, Chipotle or whatever, treating herself to a bowl, I hear the prices. Now, true, if you do a deluxe full loaded Chipotle burrito and you get it delivered with a drink on DoorDash, it's probably going to cost you 20 bucks.

1:24:39You've got to pay the DoorDash fee and everything that goes with it. But what the Republicans should have said is, look, it's not about the burrito. We need to do something about a 40-year-old. I think that's what Matt Walsh was saying in his tweet. Yep. And that's exactly what Matt Walsh said. And Matt Walsh is absolutely correct. But to have everybody is getting their quote out there, stop whining, get a job, eat ramen noodles. Wow. You know, giving the finger to voters verbally like that and just kind of the dust off, that is not the winning play. And this is something you and I, Pat, have been talking about.

1:25:12You have to not only acknowledge the affordability, but we need to be talking about what to do about it. So I just pulled it up right now, and I asked the question, tell me the average price of a burrito at Taco Bell and Del Taco. Okay. Taco Bell is$3.75 and Del Taco is$4.25. Okay. I don't think that's what you're talking about. Then Taco Bell, the typical burrito includes cheesy bean and rice, whatever,$1.49, bean burrito,$2.49, beefy five-layer,$4.29 to$4.99, grilled cheese burrito,$5.40. I'm getting hungry, by the way. $5.49,$5.99. Cantina chicken burrito,$5.99. Del Taco, their most expensive is the deluxe burrito that goes all the way up to$6.49.

1:25:53The Epic Burrito,$7.99. And then I ask the next question. How much did these things cost, a taco cost, 30 years ago, 1996, then five years ago, then today? In 1996, 30 years ago, if you bought a Taco Bell crunchy taco, it was$0.79 to$0.89. In 21, and that's 25 years later, it went from$0.89 to$1.49. That's not a lot to go from$0.89 to$1.49. And today that$1.49 is at$2. So it's up 50 cents. 33 % is up in the last five years. Del Taco went from$0.99 to$1.69 to$2.79. U.S. median household went from$35 ,000 a year in 96 to$71 ,000 a year in 2021, which means your income 2X, median household income, but the price of taco didn't 2X.

1:26:48So just so you know, the price of that, so it's actually the exact range of your income. And then today it's$84 ,000. And so$84 ,000, the last five years, the median income has only increased, say, 20%, where the price of a taco has increased 33%. So last five years, that kind of does make sense. And I think I'm with you, Tom, in a part of affordability. If you talk to young guys about not realizing what they're going through, there needs to be a message of both. where you've got to be able to understand how tough it is, but you've also got to be able to challenge them at the same way. And we're going to see how this messaging is going to land midterms and 2028.

1:27:27This is a real topic of discussion that's going to come. Can you imagine right now if you're watching this, are they really talking about burritos? Yeah. How the hell does a burrito story go viral on X? Can I add to that, please? Can I just say, first of all, out of all the cuisines around the world and dishes, burrito is the easiest thing to make. You just put it in there, warm it up, put some chicken on top and beans, done. And salad, whatever. So learn how to make that, and then you won't have a problem. I mean, anybody can make a burrito, even a blind person. So to pay$20 because it's the brand.

1:28:03There's a shopping mall, there's a grocery store in Venice, California, where a medium-sized shake is$30. Okay? Just berries, water, maybe some sugar, whatever. But people, because they live in L.A., they like to be fancy. Oh, do you want to have a$30 shake? It's really good. It's the best in the world. You get out for two people at this grocery store, you will spend$1 ,000. $1 ,000 for two people at the grocery store. And they're building these because the celebrities go there. It's hot. It's the most expensive. It's the best fruit. It's this and that. Just get the fruit, wash it. What's it called?

1:28:39What's the name of this place? It's in Venice Beach. Find out. I was there last year because I don't live in California anymore. but I was training for my fight, and I passed by this place, and I heard about it, and I checked out. I didn't go inside, but we're talking about high, high prices, right on Venice Beach, Venice Boulevard, and Abikini. Venice Beach, and this, and they, yeah, I mean, look at the prices on this stuff. I mean, it's ridiculous. Like a little burrito is like$30,$40. I'm giving you some real numbers here. This is crazy. And they'll go there just because maybe the Kardashian went there, or whoever went there, and they'll...

1:29:16Yeah, how much is that thing? I think there's another part to this. Go for it. Yeah, so basically I'm just saying that it's about... Go make your own burrito, in other words. Make your own burrito or follow the herd and be a sheep. Adam. This is a burrito story, but it's not a burrito story. It's an affordability story. Yeah, exactly. I mean, look, you go to Taco Bell, you said it's$3,$4. You go to Chipotle, it's$10,$12. You go to my spot, Bodega, it's$12 to$15, but it's the best burrito you've ever had because we're in Miami and we're in Florida. Now, if you go to California, where they've raised the minimum wage to$25 an hour, how much you think your burrito is going to cost in California, guys?

1:29:54So if you're everyone fighting for minimum wage, increasing the minimum wage, you can do that, but you also can't complain about the price of your burrito. Can't do both. Because the more that you increase the minimum wage, who's working making burritos? But also the taxes in California, the tax businesses left and right. So it's a math issue. It's a minimum wage issue, and it's a very emotional issue. It's your food. It's your marketplace. Things cost money. You decide where you go to go shop. Go get the best burrito you can afford, but don't cry poor because you want extra guac. That's your message?

1:30:23That's expensive. I'm just saying, extra guac. Tom, any final thoughts on this? Let's get back to affordability, and let's do something for the American voters. Looping this all the way back to Tucker, what are the specifics they could do? Pat and I, you and I could do it on energy and data centers and a lot of other things. That's what people want to hear about. Yeah. That was beautiful. Let me go to this next one because this WNBA story keeps going viral. And one of the stories on WNBA is Lonzo Ball and Michael Porter Jr. They're sitting down doing a podcast and they're asking. They're being forced now to talk about this topic because there's a guy that's transgender in Europe.

1:31:01I don't know what country it is, Vinny, that he's averaging 20, 20. Of course it's Frank. And there's a female, this guy right here. Look at my boy right there. Yeah. Please sign her. Please sign her. Yeah. He said, if they contact me, I won't say no. And then there's another WNBA player that said, I wouldn't have any problem having transgender in the WNBA. Then there's a real topic, which is NBA players talking about what could have happened if they played against WNBA players 10th grade, 11th grade, 8th grade. At what grade would they have dominated? Look what they had to say. And they're trying to do their best to be respectful.

1:31:38Watch this. And I mean this as respectfully as possible. But ninth grade Lonzo Ball in the WNBA. It's crazy. All right. Because look, in ninth grade, I'm over six feet. And I'm dunking. Like, I'm coming through the line. No girl in the WNBA is doing that. I'm going back door, throw it up. Like, I'm looking like Jordan out there. So I'm going to just say. And I mean this so respectfully. So great senior. Middle school day out. I give it to the WNBA. I'm going to go probably eighth grade. Because, look, I have real experience doing this because I played. My sisters went to University of Missouri, and I was still a young dude.

1:32:18And they had me playing, like, on the scout team. And they had a few WNBA players on the team, like Sophie Cunningham and a couple others. And I think I was, like, in the seventh or eighth grade going dumb. I'm talking about, like, so I have real life experience. It's not physically fair, bro. It's just a difference, man. And I wish this would stop in the conversation because it should be common sense. But, like, it's just not. But I appreciate, you know, common sense. I feel like sometimes that's lost a little bit. Look at the size of this guy on the right. His name is Michael Porter Jr. How tall?

1:32:48He's 6 '10". In the NBA, what position does he play? Small forward. Three. That would be the biggest player in the WNBA by far. That guy doesn't go dunk on people. In the WNBA, that guy would average 100 and 100 and 100. I'm just letting you. Let me just play this clip here. She's a WNBA player. Look what she says about transgenders playing. Go for it. I think it's trans rights now is our new battle. That's what I think I was saying. The battles have changed. Our intentions have been the same, but now the environment has changed. You see trans people's rights being stripped away from them. There's a lot of discourse around trans athletes and what they can compete in.

1:33:30I would welcome a trans athlete on my team. She should change her sex and go play with the boys. No, no. She should change her sex and go play with the NBA. She has to go play with the NBA. You know why this attitude is this? She's in the mafia. She's in the LGBTQ mafia. And as you guys know, because Pat talks to a lot of people that were in the mafia, nobody, you don't, the capo doesn't talk crap. The mafia was smart. The mafia was smart. But my point is, my point is, the soldiers, Kathy Engelberg, the point I'm trying to make is, in the mafia, nobody goes over anybody's head, everybody sticks on message, everybody respects it, because you can't, or else you get whacked.

1:34:14They're mentally ill. This is all them. I agree, but they're in that mafia, and they have to toll the line, so to speak. Male, female, done. Why are we even talking about it? Why is this even allowed? Why is it even allowed? I just want to see her take the foul, wake up next Tuesday, and then ask her the question again. You know, they say my lived experience. Let me give you my lived experience. I was a point guard in high school. I played college football. I also played semi-pro basketball. I'm a player. I got a football and basketball scholarship in high school, and I went to a great school called Miami Country Day.

1:34:51And I was in 10th grade. They wasn't sure if I was JV or varsity, So they started me off on varsity. And I was like the backup point guard. I'd average like five, seven points a game. And they go, let's bring you down to JV and see how you do. Bro, I'm scoring 30 a game in JV. And the JV team would scrimmage against the girls varsity team. So 12th grade girls against ninth and 10th grade boys. We smoked them. It wasn't close. We're dunking. We're throwing the ball up. We're backing them down. they did that so the girls would quote unquote toughen up for their next opponent so you want to do this in real life guys let's do it it's crazy that we're having this conversation let's just have a game let's just have a game and let it happen and the saddest thing is some girl is going to get hurt some girl is not going to make a team they could lose their life but they want it so let's give it to them yeah Tom thoughts it shouldn't be allowed No, I think the points have been made.

1:35:56My wrap-up is, hey, let's bring the guy from France and let's put him on the Indiana Fever. See what happens. They win the championship, and then everyone says, wow. By the way, can't the Eagle Barber, she would jump in on that. You know why? Because she would know that Sophie Cunningham and Clark are about to get a chip. And she won't let them get a chip. South Park won't play it. You could even maybe show an image. But they had basically macho man Randy Savage, like, I'm a lady, compete in some female Olympics. I mean, and it went exactly how it would go. But that was Trey Parker making a point, and he was right.

1:36:32But he made a valid point. Even Serena Williams said it, and she's a pro. These two right here. She's the best player ever to play tennis. Even Serena. Karen versus Butch. Who do you think won? Yeah. So, okay, let's do this last story, and then we'll wrap up. Let me get into the story I got here for you. It's five reasons more Americans are cutting off their own parents, according to psychologists. Uh-oh. Parents being cut off by their kids. Let's see what this story's all about. Five reasons. Dr. Richard Blake, British psychologist based in Austin, Texas, identified five drivers of rising family estrangement after a 2025 YouGov survey found 38 % of U.S.

1:37:07adults are estranged from at least one family member. First, political and value differences. Interesting. There were people more likely to cut off someone for having a different opinion than for people who have done serious violent crimes. Blake said, second, social media influence, which normalizes estrangement through viral no-contact stories and encourages ward-of-mouth, mimicry. Third, therapy culture, which Blake called a false belief that if you're struggling in your adult life, it must be because your parent did something they shouldn't. He cited a 2024 study finding estranged adults reported lower life satisfaction and more depressive symptoms.

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1:39:45Yeah, we go in here. But you know what's really amazing is that we're trying to – this is an article. We should learn from our grandparents more than the therapists and moving in. But really what the issue is there's two sides in the economy that's going in here. It's kids moving back in because they simply can't afford it. They can't launch out of college or out of high school or coming back home from the military. I'm not going by any sort of class or education. All of them are having the issue. It says, then it's like, okay, you got to move out, and I can't help you. To the boomers who have inadequate retirement and are now looking for their successful kids to help them.

1:40:25It's two sides of the same problem showing up in two headlines, Pat, that look almost comical. I also have to add hormonal. I think the teenagers who have their hormones are all jacked. I think their testosterone is way low. I think they're on their computer. I think their will to survive and go to the next level is dropped. They want to get back home and they'll pay any bills and be on their phones while they don't even care about their families because family values are dead. So you have a complication of things. There's no will to get it on your own. Nobody's going to come and help you. But instead, you have the government saying, we'll help you, we'll help you, we'll help you.

1:41:01And everything's getting higher prices and everything. So the next generation, I feel sorry for them because there's no will to get it, to get it, to get it up, as they say. You know what I mean? To get it to the next level, to have balls, cojones, to say, you know, at 16, I was living in New York by myself. I left school. I lied to my parents. I said I passed my GED when I didn't. But then I went back to school and I got my GED years later under my own terms. So I'm just saying, but my will was always, and I also went to a lot of high schools and I was coming from Italy, coming from here, going back to Italy, ran out of money and back and forth.

1:41:34So now I'm like, that's a different generation. We were guys back in the 80s and 90s where we just, we want to live and be outside. Now these people, like I said, their hormones are jacked. There's just no will to do anything. Just give me, give me, give me. And I don't even respect my mom. My parents are divorced. Everything is all. But just give me a roof over my head so I can be on Instagram, on TikTok. You know what I mean? That's how it goes. Vinny. Yeah, well, when I saw the story about people moving back in with their parents, I was like, Mom, did you read this article? And she was like, what?

1:42:06No, I just don't have anything. I can see that happening. The way your mom cooks, a lot of people would... Oh, 1 ,000%. But that's normal. You make the bed. You help your mother. I got friends of mine in Italy who are my age who are still living with their parents because it's normal. But you give. You've got a job. You give back to the family. You pray every night. You sit down at the table. There's a different kind of thing. Right now, they just want to be taken care of. You know what I mean? Well, I think the number one thing in life is family and friends. That comes above everything. I love how Vinny interacts with his mom.

1:42:41She's the best. I love the example that PBD sets from his dad down to his kids. I love that. To me, I'm still best friends with the same guys I went to elementary school with, and I bring them around here. And it's awesome. At the same time, there's certain friends and there's certain family that you may have to cut off. And not a ton, but some people, they can't always be in your life. as you're on your way up. Because, you know, like I said earlier, at the end of the day, it's on you. It's on your decisions. It's on your choices. And, you know, we say future looks bright. You could be an optimist and think everything's going to be positive and work out and try again.

1:43:16Or you could be a negative person and it's not fair and it's not right. Blame it on everything. Blame it on the rain even if you want to do that. Blame it, blame it, blame it. Milli Vanilli. But, you know, like that's one of the great things about being a Pat, being an optimist. So I was at our last event for PHP. I'm at this event, and we fly out and, you know, backstage, talking to some guys, coming, approaching. And, you know, for me, I'm just sizing everybody up to see where they're at. Who's still grateful? Who's still hungry? Who's unified? Humble. Who's a virus? Who is negative now? And it's the most confusing thing on who is most negative now and who's most optimistic.

1:43:52So last minute I got up and I decided to surprise some of the guys who were not expecting it because we had earned out. So I said, I'm going to give a cash bonus to some of you guys, and you have no clue who it is. They're like, what? And I brought Brian up. So I gave Del Toro's$100 ,000 cash bonus. I gave Sika's$150 ,000, if I'm not mistaken. I gave Okafor$200 ,000. Wow. I gave Suazo's$350 ,000 bonus. And then I gave Hearts a$1 million bonus. Hearts Heart. Cash. SOS. Yes. I gave them$1 million bonus in front of everybody. and Brian Adams is their integrity the whole nine. And, you know, I said, you know, the thing about the five issues that you should, everybody thinks about.

1:44:36In every relationship, you think about these five things. Each party has a set of concerns. They have their own motives. They have their own assumptions. They have their own fears, and they have their own asks. You with your girl, those five who you're thinking about, she's thinking about that as well. Me with you, I have my own set of concerns with you, motives, assumptions, fears, and ask. In every relationship this happens. And I said, you know what's the one thing that destroys it, the relationship, is you're wrong with your assumptions. Because you think that person's thinking that, but they're not.

1:45:09And because of that, in many cases, you lose 5, 10, 15 years of your life. One of the couples I won't mention upstairs were having a VIP, and they come up to me, which I was kind of surprised that they came up to me because another couple did not come up to me. But this one couple came up to me, and we start talking. Hey, you know, we're going to really turn things around. I said, you've been saying it for five years. I don't know if you listen. I don't know why you tell me this. Like, we're going to make you proud. I said, what do you think I want from you at this phase of my life? I need nothing from you.

1:45:36Nothing. I don't need money from you. I just want respect, gratitude, perspective. And if you don't have that, then there is no relationship. That's the only thing I need. I'm going to give you respect because I'm grateful for you, right? I said, there's something. I said, there's so much I want to tell you, but I'm not going to tell you anything. She says, what do you mean? You can't tell us. I said, I will never tell you. Why won't you tell us? There's no point in me telling you right now. Why? In my mind, some of these guys don't realize it. The guys that have made a lot of money, and I said this from stage.

1:46:10I said, I hope integrity listens to those who are growing the company today, not those who grew the company three, five, ten years ago, who are now bitching and whining and are no longer grateful, and they caught a virus. And what is the virus that you catch? The virus that you catch, which is the scariest virus to catch, you never know you have it, and that's bitterness. The moment you become bitter. You know how this thing works? I'm recommending everybody to go get a CAT scan. You got your CAT scan. I don't know if you've done a CT scan on your heart or not. I'm recommending. I know you guys, when I did it, we had this conversation.

1:46:45What happens when you go do a CAT scan? You're living a regular life, and all of a sudden you're like, hey, your widow maker is here. This artery is here. What? Yeah. You got to do this. What are you talking about? Well, guess what? If you don't go do that, you're not going to know you're bitter, but you are bitter. So every word out of your mouth, you don't even know how bitter you are. You don't know because you're, you know, protected by your shell that you have and you're only. So then becomes one of the guys that won. He's at backstage. I'm talking to him. I won't mention the names. I said, whatever you do, don't join the bitter camp because it's the easiest camp to join.

1:47:23That camp's going to go around to try to recruit everybody. Don't fall for it. Stay optimistic, stay big. So what does this have to do with the five reasons family's not moving in? My dad's been living with me. I lived with him for many years, even after my parents got a divorce, because he is optimistic, he's positive, he's not bitter, he has certain things that he's, you know, anybody that's around him, He's helping developing all of that. If anybody in the family, your blood, if you're entitled, if you're bitter, if you're negative, I don't care if they're your blood. It is not your responsibility to try to change them.

1:48:00Absolutely. It's not on you because you will never succeed. You are not God. God can help them. Their friends can help them. A local church can help them, but they got to make that commitment. So imagine if you then bring that person into your family. Exactly. And they now spread that virus with, what do you call it, with your kids, your family. Then all of a sudden, four years later, your family picked it up, that bad habit. It's on you. Amen. It's on you because you allowed that, you know, behavior to be around it. So at the same time, like I said, this is the first time since 1989 that my mom, my sister, myself, my dad all live within a half a mile radius.

1:48:37This has not happened since 1989. I live with my mom now. There's nothing like that. And I love living with my family members because we, as Italians, we came here together, the four of us. My father is in heaven now. But my sister and I and my mom, we're close. And there's nothing wrong with doing it together as a family, but you appreciate, you have respect, you have dignity, and you give back. Yeah. You know what I mean? Now they don't want to give back, like we talked about earlier. And it's a sign of respect for yourself, too. I will tell you something, though. I will tell you something about giving back to your parents.

1:49:05I think it's a two-way highway. And let me explain to you why. My dad, I had to force him to want to live with me. Why? I'll tell you right now. He didn't want to live with me, with the family, with the wife and kids. I said, what's your issue? He says, I don't ever want to be a burden on your family and your marriage. Check this out. We went to the Hamptons. He didn't go with us to the Hamptons. First time ever. You know what his reasoning is to not want to go to the Hamptons? What? Because when we're in the Hamptons, he doesn't want us to take him to the hospital nonstop because the day before we went to the Hamptons, he had an emergency.

1:49:39I took him to ER. So I was at the hospital. And he's like, look, I don't want to go. And now as you're aging and you look at the family. God bless. When you're looking at homes, different places. You know what's crazy? We're looking at a home in Hamptons. You know that one house on the beach we looked at? You know what's the first question that we're asking? You know what's the crazy thing? I know it. We're asking, how long of a drive is it here from here to ER? Oh, yeah. It was a seven-minute drive. Yeah. You know when you're young and coming up and you have dreams. Where's the pool and the chips?

1:50:06day I want to own an island. This is the chances of me owning an island one day. Do you want to know why? Why? You got to get places. How the hell am I getting to a freaking hospital? I want a hospital that's five, ten minutes away. And in Hamptons, when we went to the hospital on one of the days, and this guy who was driving me, and I'm talking to him, he says, I said, so, how many? He says, oh, you realize if you live in Gurney, Montauk, and you have to go to the hospital, the closest hospital is an hour and 20 minutes away. You're done. I said, stop. The ambulance drivers, you know what they are?

1:50:39They're part-time drivers. Volunteer. Volunteer. Yeah. 90-year-olds, 80-year-olds that you call them and say, hey, do you mind coming in? And they have to call people. Oh, no. There isn't. So imagine these. You'll never make it. Remember we saw the one, the paramedic yelling at the driver. Get it right there. And Artie was like this. He's like, I'm coming. You're like, no, you're not. You're going. And the paramedic was yelling at him, Artie, over here. As you age, you realize the value of health, doctors, all of that, but also sanity. And help. Sanity. Help around you. Sanity, sanity. But the point I was going to make is the fact that sometimes, generationally, we put way too much pressure on kids to have to take care of their parents.

1:51:22The Bible even tells you, leave your kids an inheritance. So don't pass the burden on to them. How many marriages end up at a divorce because one of the spouse is trying to take care of somebody else financially and the other guy is saying, hey, you're getting us bankrupt and we're running out of money and you're taking money out of kids going to college. So there needs to be a fair amount of pressure. It can't just be all the burden put on one person to have to support everybody. And that's one of the reasons why conflicts happen within families later on. It's a very complicated thing. But with that being said, Antonio, it's great having you on.

1:51:54Pleasure, you guys. You know, you have incredible genetics to be handsome no matter what age you are. And so that's a gift that only a few people get. Adam? I just want to go back to your big event. Yeah. I mean, I met Pat in 2012. You've been doing this a long time. You started this in 2009. You were in the insurance business. Yeah. Starting in, I think, 2001. How does it feel to be kind of a new man now? Priceless. Yeah. Priceless. You know why? The way I view it is the following. The more and more the last four years, I told everybody, my voices are going to get smaller. I don't want a voice in a company.

1:52:28My voice is going to get smaller. I'll play a role on the back when Integrity and people call me. And, you know, I have a relationship with everybody. Anybody ever calls me, I'm the facet to get back to them. I get back to my guys faster than their own leaders get back to them. So that's not going to change. But it is like your daughter marrying a good man. Oh, wow. And you have to let them figure it out. Yeah. My daughter, PHP, married Integrity, a good man. Brian's a good dude. And I'm outside, and whatever you guys need from me, I'm not going to get involved. If you ask me questions, I'm right here.

1:52:58And I'm going to be very fair to both of you guys. Any questions you want. Of course, my priority is my daughter because that's my blood. And PHP is my priority. My job is to protect them. But from the outside, they married somebody very good. Brian's an incredible guy. He's a heavyweight. Love that guy. He's the number one guy in the insurance industry, heavyweight. The world's going to know about this guy and what he's built. That's awesome. And there's going to be good things. When you build a company that's got roughly a$1.5 billion EBITDA, that's a real business. Yeah. It's a real business.

1:53:26Anyways. Well, respect to PHP, respect to you, respect to integrity. It was great. We had a great experience. Gang, have a great weekend. We will do this again next Monday. God bless everybody. Take care. Bye-bye, bye-bye.

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