WNBA Defines “Woman,” America's Farmer Crisis, & Bibi Rejects Gaza Peace Plan | PBD Podcast #841

0:01Did you ever think you would make it? I feel I'm so close, I could take sweetly throw me. You know this life meant for me. Adam, what's your point? The future looks bright. My handshake is better than anything I ever signed, right here. You are a one-on-one? My son's right there. I don't think I've ever said this before. I'm the one.

0:27It'll pass. Right off the bat. Go ahead, Vinny. You want to tell us? Yeah, as you were saying, tough guy. Basically, it's just a heat rash. Okay. All right. So, gang, hope you had a good weekend. We got some crazy stories to go through. Some people this weekend thought it was a good idea to freeze their eggs because maybe that's their way of showing commitment. Like, how serious are you? Yeah. Are you a gamer? Are you down to run for office in 2028 or no? She said yes. So serious that she's freezing her ex. Who, AOC? AOC, you got to respect her. She was asked. She was asked about being part of the DSA nationally or New York, and her answer was given.

1:07And then you had other people from the DSA kind of giving their vision of what's going on. And the DSA is their MAGA. And some people, your guy, Freeth Zakaria, was saying that their problem is going to be, They're going to do well in primary, but to go win, they got to win independence. Are they going to get independence or not? We'll talk about that. WNBA, folks, honestly, this poor girl does a regular foul. So what she misses and almost breaks Sophia Cunningham's neck. It's white privilege. It's, you know, when she tweeted it, it's white privilege. And then shout out to Royce. Royce White. Royce White and Ennis Cantor who posted the video that went berserk.

1:48or everywhere. 500 million views that went all over the place announcing that they're willing to get into it. Can you imagine how embarrassing it is? By the way, two, three weeks ago, that's right, two, three weeks ago, I said, this is all on the top of the company, on WNBA. They need to take responsibility and stop the discussion so the guys can play. WNBA actually called a meeting to address the definition of women. Can you imagine how embarrassing it is? It went nowhere, by the way. Well, we're going to see. I still haven't figured it out. We're going to see what's going to happen. Is it WNBA leadership or is this on Adam Silver?

2:23Because he's the boss. Adam Silver needs to make the phone call and get it over with. Jeez. Multiple people said Adam talked to Kathy E. And nothing happened. And then Caitlin Clark got a technical foul, you know, simply by running into it. She was going to get the suspension. They rescinded it, obviously. But the same referee, the African-American referee, another black girl player pushed her, never gave her a technical. Of course, it's white privilege that this is going on. 100%. We'll talk about that. I thought it would never do nothing. Iran, you know, you got some stuff that's going on. Who's that, Tom?

2:55If you guys wanted to know who does the most inappropriate jokes, 10 to 1. I love it. It's not even close. I know people think it's others. Tom leads the league in inappropriate jokes. We have to kind of hold it back. He's in the Hall of Fame. He is in the Hall of Fame at this point. He's named after. Iran, we got to talk about some things with Iran on the issues going back and forth. and how they're being impacted by... Adam's touching that, and I'm losing. What happened? Don't touch what? Just don't touch that cord, because I lost you guys. So Iran, you know, they had some things that happened this weekend, and Netanyahu rejected the Board of Peace 15-point peace plan until Hamas truly disarmed.

3:32You know, it's a weird stat that came out from Pew. Pew is like Gallup. You trust Pew. Pew doesn't play games. And look what it says, Vinny. Nearly half of Muslim Americans have a favorable view of Hamas, the view the pupil finds. Let me say that again. Nearly half of Muslim Americans have a favorable view of Hamas. Okay, Hamas. So we'll see. I mean, we're not talking about anything but American Muslims. So we'll get into that. We'll talk about that. Texas experiments, raw capitalism. They're dominating the marketplace with companies moving over there. You know the Idaho shooting that happened last week at In-N-Out?

4:12A video came out, and it was edited in such a perfect way. I want all of us to watch it together to see what happened and ask yourself how you react to this because of what this guy last week did in Idaho and then eventually killed himself. We'll talk about it. I want you to see this video. They don't show the shooting. The way it's edited is so perfectly done that you get to see all of it to see what could have been done differently to prevent this. I think it's important for us to talk about. Americans got the biggest raises in the last five, six years, and it's still not making a big difference.

4:46Bill Maher said what the president is doing is socialism, and Bill Maher may be right. I actually don't like what the president is doing in this one specific area because what it's doing is you're taking the argument away from what socialists are going to do when they one day take on office and they're going to say your favorite president, Trump, did this. So what's wrong with us doing it now? We'll get into that. It's important to talk about that. I think we're flirting with the idea. We're flirting with the idea of accepting socialism and not even knowing that we're doing it. So we'll talk about that a little bit.

5:17Flock cameras. I don't know if you're for it or not. You know, these Flock cameras are everywhere now. They're talking about wanting to use 350 ,000 Uber, you know, Lyft drivers to track what's going on. And there's some very strange stories with Flock. And it's probably one of the most hated companies in America right now of what they're doing with the surveillance. My favorite story here that's a tough one to read that we have to address because these are our heroes. Farmers are filing bankruptcy and suicide at a rate we've never seen before. Every day, 41 farmers go bankrupt. Every single day.

5:5241 farmers go bankrupt on a daily basis. It's a scary thought. And then one last story I got here is the Iran president. Check this out. Imagine you're the president of Iran. Okay? you're only allowed to speak to the missing supreme leader in a dark car meeting so what does that tell you so you got to go in a car that's dark to talk to mochtaba in a in a to the supreme leader and you're the president what is going on over there we got to address that and then maybe if we got a chance to get into a couple of these other stories we will do that as well but with that being said gang vault conference i think the last couple of days were ridiculous ticket selling days on the side.

6:32Some of these things are crazy the last couple of days with what's happening. Everybody typically likes to wait until the last minute to get their game tickets. I got my World Cup ticket I think the day of or the week before going to the World Cup. But if you haven't yet made the decision and you're there, this is the time to do it. I got a message here from Logan Paul. He sent his message to us about the Vol Conference. I want you to hear from this. Here is Logan Paul. This will be our first official sit-down that we'll have together at the Vol Conference. Go for it. What's up, it's Logan Paul.

7:02You might know me from my videos on Vine or YouTube, my podcast Impulsive, maybe WWE, some of my businesses like Prime Hydration or Lunchly, but I am excited to see you at the Vault Conference in Las Vegas, August 31st through September 3rd to talk about how to turn attention into an actual business, betting on yourself and overall winning optimization strategies with Patrick Bet David, the man himself, me and PBD finally face-to-face. So grab your tickets and we'll crack the code and unlock the vault together. Let's get it. The guy's been able to do so. Can you imagine these two brothers? They're probably going to have first brothers that are both going to be billionaires.

7:38That's a crazy story to be thinking about. There's so much to learn on what they did with marketing. Going out of nowhere to all of a sudden you're independently having this much success. And apparently Logan at one point in college had a 4.0 GPA. And last minute he decides to drop out. And he becomes who he is today. So if you haven't yet registered, get a ticket for yourself, your spouse, your business partners, your peers. Bring your kids with you. depending on the age they're at, there's going to be a lot of great topics to discuss going through a 296 page manual. And for some of you guys that are CEOs and you want to be in a room, being able to ask questions of Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos, his lawyer, Alex Spiro, he will be in the CEO session this year to discuss how he went from zero to nearly a half a billion dollar law from being the most powerful lawyer in America today in his early forties.

8:25Go to vault2026.com. Again, vault2026.com. Get your tickets. There's also an opportunity to buy a five-pack. Looking forward to seeing you guys there August 31st through September 3rd. With that being said, let's get right into it. The first story I never thought the first story for PBD Podcast would be a WNBA story. I never thought that. But they're blowing up. Okay? And so imagine if all of these things, Ennis Cantor comes out saying he's announcing that he's going to the WNBA. And, you know, he kind of did one of those things that I want to take my talents to the WNBA. He makes this video. He texts me.

9:05He's like, Pat, check this out. Funny as hell. Go and play this clip. You know, he's ready for it. You know, he does this. After careful consideration on reviewing the current eligibility guidelines, I am officially declaring myself a WNBA prospect. If simply declaring who you are is all that's required, then I meet every single requirement necessary to compete in the WMBA. How embarrassing is it? My team and I have carefully examined the WMBA. You can pause it right here. So he does this. By the way, can you show how many views this got? I think it's very important to say, imagine you make a clip.

9:39How much of a reason why video goes viral has to do with the content? How much does it have to do with the timing of it? You ready? This video got 254 ,000 likes, and it got 48 million views, 16 ,000 comments in a span of a couple days, day and a half. Then Royce White. Is it Royce White? Royce White. We had him on the podcast before. You have to play that video. He plays. Did you see his video? Play Royce White's video. Please make sure you do the right. No, no, no, no, no, no. Play the one where he's in a wig. I think Alex Jones posted it. He's in a wig. Guys, he's transitioning. Let's back up a second.

10:17Adam, let him live his truth. Don't try to make fun of him on the podcast. You have to see the video in the wig. If you find it, put the one in there. You're going to find it. Anyway, so he posted up that he's also going. And eventually, right afterwards, is this the one? Right afterwards. He's so ugly as a video. Right afterwards, guess what gets in? WNBA leadership announces they're having an emergency meeting to discuss what they're going to be doing with the W in WNBA. We have to identify what it is. Literally, they put a task force together to discuss the growing drama around transgender athletes because they got humiliated.

10:58They got humiliated by not taking a position. All they have to do is, Vinny, make a position at the top to say where they stand, and it would have been done with. But every single time you're hearing Kaitlyn Clark in interviews, like, can we just talk basketball? Can we just talk basketball? Can we just talk basketball? And then while this is going on, Sophia Cunningham, if I'm saying her name correctly, Sophia Cunningham, she's going in for a layup. And I want you to see this, guys. Okay? Watch this here. Boom! Obviously, the girl. In the face. Yeah. In the face. In the face. She's going for the ball.

11:32Guys, that's an innocent foul. Some people call this a flagrant, too. She got kicked out of the game. The most impressive thing about this foul is the following. Let it go for two more seconds. Guess what? Sophie makes the shot. Oh, good. That's an and one, baby. People don't forget the fact that she makes. That's the most important thing. She makes the flipping shot. And one. And so she gets up, goes in her face, and then what does the girl tweet right afterwards? She tweets right afterwards that this foul. You ready for this? Oh, yeah. She tweets, it's white privilege. Indiana fever. No doubt.

12:03White privilege on what's going on here. So, Adam, I'll come to you first because I know you're a big fan of WNBA. So for you, what do you think got them to the point of saying, we have to have this conversation? And do you actually believe the WNBA is going to come out and do the same thing that the WTA did? The World Tennis Association, I believe it is, for women. What did they do? The women's. They came out and they said they're testing. If you're a male or a female, they're testing. Oh, yeah, I saw that. So do you think they're going to come out and do the same thing that WTA did? Do you think they will go that far?

12:36I think the WNBA is in a big pickle here. You think? They, damned if you do. Definitely don't like them. Damned if you don't. They're not in a pickle. You know, on that foul with Sophie Cunningham, you know, they say. Pickle. I went right there, Pat. I went right there. You know, they say you do a hard foul. It's a technical foul. What do they say? Yeah. Tee them up. Yeah. Tee them up. Yeah. Tee them up. Yeah. The whole WNBA is getting teed up right now with the trans. I think. They got T everywhere. They don't know what to do. When you have owners and coaches fighting against their own level-headed players, basically saying trans kids matters more than you women in the WNBA, we got a problem.

13:19So, again, listen, you said you got a problem. That wasn't a question. The question is, do you think they're going to make the right decision with all the backlash they're getting? Do you think they're going to be forced to make the right decision? If you got NBA players like Michael Porter Jr. and Lonzo Baller, like what the hell? So these are guys that are supposed to be favoring WNBA. They're saying, you know how embarrassing it is at that point? They're getting – Stephen A. Smith's like saying, what are you doing? By the way, you saw this interview here? In this interview, this is Caitlin Clark's coach.

13:46She's calling the foul on Sophie Cunningham. Maybe take it away from you. No, no, yeah, perfect. Guys, think about this. If you're a player and you're busting your butt – Who do you want to back you up? You've got to watch this because the coach is compromised. She's been – this is from last week. Remember where she's like, I can't tell what's a guy or a – Like, a penis. I see a penis. How do I know it's real or not? This is the head coach after the foul sticking up for the other girl. By the way, she's a lesbian. She's a lesbian herself. Play this clip. Play this clip. And I'm going to give you another.

14:14And I just want you to, when she's speaking, just focus on Caitlin Clark when she's giving her answer saying, I don't think that was intentional defending the girl that hit Sophie in the face and said, why privilege? Watch this. Go for it. One of the things about me is that she's going to play her butt off, man. She's going to compete. Nobody's going to go walking in for a layup. And so I'm not, I don't oppose the hard foul. But I also don't think that she intentionally went for the net. One of the things about that is that she's going to play her butt off. If you are my head coach, if you are the captain of this ship, so to speak, and that is your freaking attitude after my head almost got taken off, and this chick, can you, guys, can you imagine if the roles were reversed?

14:53This is the simplest way to think about it. If a white girl clotheslined a black chick, goes in the locker room, And the first thing she tweets is black privilege. Forget about it. Marches. It's over. It's over. And you know what drives me crazy about this WNBA thing? I feel like Michael Coleon in Godfather 3, when he's trying to gather mafia, every time I think I'm out, they pull me back in. And it's just, again, they're causing more problems. The juice isn't worth the freaking squeeze. Enough of it already. Israel has nothing to do with this. I don't want us to go there and kind of throw. Pat, they can't get out of their freaking way.

15:28It's a failing company. And when you give. It's not though, Vinny. This is the thing. How is it not? If they're losing 50 billion. Enterprises are now being valued at a billion. Guys, just think. Listen. As much as we want to take shots at them. Tell me how many times we've talked about the WNBA last four weeks. Yeah. Every week. Yes. They're winning. Yeah. Well. No, no. No. They're winning because they're going to adjust. They're going to adjust. And as long as the Sophie Cunningham and the Caitlin Clarks are there, the conservatives are going to defend them. This is not going away. Millions of fathers have girls.

16:01There's millions of young girls that want to play basketball one day. Millions of them. This is not – we can sit here and be like, take shots. Let me tell you, these guys are dumb and stupid and all this. They're going to sit there and just be cashing the checks behind closed doors as long as they get this right. But here's my question. I don't think they're going to get it right. My honest opinion. But number two, are they – hold on. Is this going to translate to butts in seats? Translate? No, hold on. Yeah, because here's the thing. Who's going to these games? It is. Guys, it, oh my God, guys, the attendance is up ever since Caitlin Clark came in.

16:34They're selling tickets. They're selling tickets. You can sit there and because, just because you, like the other day, you know how Tico's right now obsessed with, what's this show? This Goji, Jujutsu, whatever it is. Japanese anime. Oh my gosh, every, Jujutsu Kaisen. I sit, I watch one episode. I'm going to get so much hate for this. I sat and I watched one episode and I was like, do you know this is the guy he's got staples on his forehead? And this is how he gets to put his brain into your brain to get all the power that you have. What's the name of that guy, Jake? I'm sure you know what that guy's name is.

17:09So, okay, I'm impressed. So I'm sitting, I'm like, who would be impressed? Who would be interested in something like this? Vinny, then I go click it on YouTube. Millions on top of millions of views of people that are interested in something you and I would never watch. Millions of people are interested. Trust me, the WNBA is not going away. Their business, look at this. Attendance from 66-15 average to 98-07 in 2024 after Caitlin Clark comes in, up 48%, then 11 ,000, then 11 ,000. No, this game's changed. Can you put me the highest and the lowest valuation of WNBA teams? Highest and the lowest valuation of WNBA teams.

17:47Highest and lowest valuation of WNBA teams. So while you're doing this, Tom, I'll come to you to get some of your thoughts. I want to play you guys a couple other clips, and then we'll move on from this story. I have to play that one clip. Go ahead. Look at that. Look at that, Vinny. The Golden State Valkyries are worth$850 million, Vinny. The average valuation is$427 million. Can you do me a favor? Ask the question, the average valuation in 2020, six years ago. Go back to 2020. So what's the high right now? 850-280-427, right? Just remember that. 850-280-427. This is six years ago. If we go six years ago, what are you looking at with the numbers?

18:30The owners are sitting there saying, I am loving this. Look at that, Vinny. In 2020,$10 to$20 million. Are you following me or no? Oh, yeah. In 2020, sports go full valuation, WM France, not 2020. in 2020 was$10 to$20 million. Vinny, let me say this to you one more time. The average team's valuation in 2020 was$10 to$20 million. The average valuation right now is$427 million. Do you know what it's done? 20 to 40X in your investment. By the way, you know what's getting that kind of return? Yeah, I'm not investing in W. No, no. Okay, you're joking? I'm not joking. Can you go and say, do me a favor and ask, If a person had$10 million to put into WNBA team in 2020 versus Bitcoin, what outperforms what?

19:22Just watch how embarrassing this is. As much as we want to laugh at the WNBA, Kaitlin Clark has turned a bunch of people into billionaires. People don't realize this. All it took was a straight white girl who likes dudes to enter a black lesbian league, and she dominates them, and everybody hates her for that. She just wants to play the game. She doesn't want to talk politics. She took a picture with Obama. She doesn't want to be seen as a Republican. She doesn't want to be seen as a Democrat. She just wants to play ball. Look at the return here. Let me show you this, Vinny. Watch this. Go back up.

19:56All you have to do is go back up. There's a sentence right there. No, no, the sentence is right there. Right there. Bitcoin has 9X'd. Vinny, you 42.5X'd if you own the WNBA team. No matter how much shit people are talking, they're making these guys so much money. It ain't even funny. How much I'm rapping right now. Yeah, money ain't funny, Gunny. Get your stuff on WNBA team. I'm going to make it that green. Tom, thoughts? First of all, Vinny, you're speaking pure logic about the coach. That is not a coach. She carries the title of coach, but she is a spokesman for the culture and the DEI standards of the WNBA.

20:33Got it. And she does not support her players. She supports that. So that's what's going on. You do not have coaches defending players the way you think you have. So here's the four choices they have, Pat. All weekend I looked at it and I synthesized it. Number one, they reject Cantor, and they reject the two guys as, hey, that's a PR stunt. They reject them. What happens? The heat and everything in the PR war and everything that's going on continues. So number one, reject them. The war continues. Number two, you establish a trans standard. You have to have transition surgery. Your hormones can't be this.

21:09There are trans standards that are out there. They're still not creating fairness between men and women competing, but there are trans standards. So they've created trans standards and then say, now we're trying to make it fair, and you guys don't qualify as trans standards. The third thing is they define eligibility by biological sex and therefore reject them as males. and then you have the LGBT community and everybody that's inside the WNBA goes nuts. Or number four, you actually accept both and somebody's going to get hurt on the court or it's just going to be raw mayhem. I think what's about to happen, Pat, they have to create a trans standard, but then you're going to have some guys that are in transition, but there's 6 '7", 6 '10", that are bigger and stronger, even post-transition, playing with these.

22:09Because I do not believe, Pat, what's inside the WNBA. Do you think they can go to a biological test like tennis? They have to do it, Tom. But if they do that, Pat, think about the culture and everybody that's inside the WNBA. Won't it be warfare with the LGBT? Let me tell you what's the bigger concern. Here's the bigger concern. You know what the bigger concern is? Do you remember that video of Brittany Griner in her backyard shooting the basketball without a shirt on? Everybody was like, oh, that looks like a guy. Yeah. The bigger concern if they do that is the following. Here's a question for you.

22:43How many current players in the WNBA do you actually think were born a man? That's the question. Pardon me? Let me ask the question one more time. How many current WNBA player, what do you think are the likelihood that currently the WNBA has players that were born a male? How many today? I think there's 100 % chance that there's more than just Brittany Geiner. Okay, so what do you think? Greiner. I don't know if Brittany was born a man. It certainly looks. But the percentage, here's all you have to answer. It's not zero, maybe. So what do you think it is? What do you think is the percentage that there's a player in the WNBA today that was born a man?

23:23Shoosh. It's higher than 0%. By the way, can you do me a favor? Anybody, if you're putting like super chats, I'll read it off. I know right now I got a super chat from a guy that's defending Sophie Cunningham. I actually want to know if I'm alone in this. Somebody posted a super chat talking about what's her name was right. Sophie Cunningham was right. But to me, it is a real thing. What percentage chance that there is a current male player in the WNBA? 2%. You think you're at 2 %? Where are you at? I'm 100%. Oh, Tommy. Wow. Wow. What do you mean? There is, I believe there is a 100. Oh, my God.

24:00I'm not going to go deep analysis. I believe there's a 100 % chance that there is at least one player in the NBA. Born a man. Check this out. Born a man. Audiences are putting 2%, 85%, D-Arc B. Miller. Less than 1 % is Cui BC Power. You got a bunch of people between 1%, 0%. Charni, Wing, 8 ,700, 2 to 5%. You got Chevy, Gooden, 0%. You got a bunch of people saying, you know, all these other things. Okay, where are you at? What's your percentage that there's a male? Yeah, maybe 10%. Okay, do you realize the problem then becomes the following? If they say no, I'm willing to bet the reason why they're not going to do it today is because there's a male player in the WN.

24:47They already have a Trojan horse in there? They know if they do that, the level of hypocrisy that's going to show up will be such a – if they thought they were getting a massive PR hit, it's going to be ten times bigger. But if they say yes, they deserve the respect that they're going to get to stand on their position and say, here's where we are, move on. If that story gets exposed, that the WNBA currently has a male player, do not be surprised the moment they announce this, that less than five people quit the WNBA and get out. and they do what's that guy that got on his kneel did? Kaepernick?

25:20Colin Kaepernick. Colin Kaepernick. That did. They get on their knees. I foresee something like that taking place. And I want to get to the next story. I want you to watch this here, by the way. I want you to watch this here. This is Dana White. Zoom out so I can read the description. This is Dana White. He's being asked. Which one's Dana White? He's being asked. He's the man? He's being asked why they don't have ring girls in the U.K. Listen to the answer. you will be shocked why he cannot have ring girls. Ring boys. Listen to me. Sorry. Ring girls. Go ahead. Where are the ring card girls? Don't even get me started.

25:57Watch this. I don't know what round we're in. The U.K. won't use ring card girls unless you have ring card boys.

26:16Wait, what? Yeah. Did she understand it? We're all confused, exactly. So wait, this is a Zufo boxing event. Listen to what she asked. Who wants to see a ring card boy? What the fuck is that? You know who that is? Of course. Chad, you want to see a ring card boy? She covers all the slap boxing. She's great. She's phenomenal. Her and Armand do their thing, and they're phenomenal. The boyfriend always shoots everything. Her shirt is ripped in the middle. Her boyfriend is Armand? No, no, no. Her boyfriend is the camera guy that shoots everything. By the way, her and Armand, when they make the videos, the chemistry they have, it's like, you know, they're phenomenal.

26:47I think her name is Nina, right? I think. She's great. She's phenomenal. But look at the madness in UK. You got a freaking fight taking place in the UK saying you can't have ring card girls unless if you have ring card boys. It's absurd. I mean, absurd is an understatement. That's double dumb. It's stupid. What do you want to do? Who wants to look at boys walk around being like second round? And by the way, it's not even who wants to see boys. Believe it or not, there's a lot of people that want to see boys. But the question is, hang on a second. There is a question of the audience that goes to the UFC.

27:23Do they want to see boys? Hell to the no. They're going to see guys fight. They're going to see guys fight. And they want to see. I don't even want to see girls fight, but they do that. I want to see them being ring boys. Have a question? No, hang on a second. Yeah. Tom, please don't defend the ring boys. No, no, no, no, no, I'm not. I'm defending a private company's right to conduct itself. Yeah. Okay. So suddenly you can't have ring card girls at an event by the UFC, produced by UFC, sold tickets by UFC, in which they rented an arena from an owner. What this shows you, guess what? If the government gets in too close, you lose the ability to operate as an independent business.

28:06You are seeing in the UK what we don't want to have in the United States. So check this out. Check this out. Connor, I don't know what the WMBS is. Can you show the poll to the audience? So we ran a poll. What are the odds that there's at least one biological male currently in the WMBA? Okay? Look at the poll. What it comes on the bottom right. Do you see it? If you look at the poll, 0%, 18%. 10%, 20%, 50%, 22%, 39 % believe there's 100 % chance that there's at least one male. I'm going to ask this question on X right now to see what the X is going to do. 60 % of the time works all the time. And, oh, my goodness, this is such a crazy thing that's going on with 100%.

28:5250 % of the audience believe there's 100 % chance somebody's in the WNBA that's a male. Anyways, let me continue with this. This madness with WNBA male UK, they have lost their shit. I think this will be one of the things in 2028 that still the Democrats are going to get wrong is because they're not giving this up. They're not giving this up. They don't realize there's plenty of Democrats who are pro-choice Democrats, who are John F. Kennedy Democrats, who have daughters who don't want men to compete with them. And they're going to lose that base to the independent mothers who are going to say, I cannot believe you're forcing me to do this.

29:26I'm going to vote Republican. They're going to lose in this area and they still don't get it. They still don't get it. I'll say one thing. Connor, who's one of the smartest guys here, called it WNBS. That's what's called the Freudian slip. The BS thing right there. Where I agree with you, sir, real quick, from a revenue standpoint, I get it. They're getting eyeballs. They're making money. They're putting butts in seats. But not all eyeballs are the same. They're getting the kind of freak show circus act eyeballs, but the revenue is increasing. My concern for the WNBA, which I've already lost them years ago, is their reputation.

29:59Nobody takes these people seriously at this point. If you want to be known as playing basketball, that ship has sailed. It's now basically a LGBT trans league, and, you know, we're living in a woman's world, and power to the people. You've been supporting them for years on this podcast. How many times? Oh, wait. Sorry. After all these meetings. I've been saying this for years. After all these meetings, I know you want to move on. Do you think, because of this whole thing and this whole tent, LGBTQ, that they're going to say, okay, fine, if you're genuinely a trans, we'll let you play. If you're a dude that identifies and you're legitimate, not like the guys that...

30:33Where do you draw the line, Vinny? That's the whole point. No, my question is this. Are you pre-trans? Are you post-trans? That's what I'm saying. Did you cut it off? Did you not cut it off? Are they going to do it, though? Do you have a wig? Do you really identify? My question is, do they... It's such a slippery slope. Do they say yes? That you cannot win this? Do they bend the knee, though? Do they say yes? You play stupid games. You win stupid prizes. You still haven't answered my question. And they got the gold medal right now. You still haven't answered my question. You said it correctly.

30:52You said they have a pickle or they're in a pickle. They're definitely in a pickle. One of the two. So, Adam, yes or no, are they going to let an actual trans dude come in? Are they going to practice? Yeah, they are. Okay, good. That's how I'll watch. All right, so let's see what happens. Let's go to the next thing. Next thing I want to get into is farmers. Look, I love my farmers. You know, we consult for a lot of our farmers here locally and nationwide, and I think they're the heroes, heroes of what we have in America that don't get enough credit. And this story breaks my heart, and I think we need to bring more attention to it on what these guys are going through with farmers.

31:20Page 15 if you want to go to it. So, Tom, I'm going to come to you with this one first. The Blaze. Great job on The Blaze writing this article. America is losing its farmers to bankruptcy and suicide. Okay? America is losing its farmers to bankruptcy and suicide. So American farmers face crushing debt with total farm debt projected to it$624.7 billion of debt. In Chapter 12, bankruptcy is rising 46 % last year to over 315 cases. A new John Deere combined can cost$1 million, and farmers gamble ancestral property in diesel prices and rainfall every spring for too many farmers. Crushing debt becomes a debt sentence.

32:03CDC data shows farmers take their own lives at a rate of, ready, three and a half times higher than the national average. Let me read that to you one more time. According to the CDC data, farmers take their own life, suicide, at a rate of three and a half times higher than the national average at 43.2 % per 100 ,000 farm workers. America lost 15 ,000 individual farm operations in 2025 at an average of 41 a day. The average farm owner is 58 years old, and many farm kids watched their fathers battle debt and despair before walking away from the family business. The USDA found the only growing farm category is those with annual sales of a million plus or more, while half of American farmland is now operated by farms with sales of at least$500 ,000, a country that destroys its independent producers, surrenders its national independence to foreign supply chains, and corporate conglomerates.

33:01Conservative ideals depend on preserving private property rights and local community ownership. American food security depends on those who begin work at sunrise and end long after it has said urgent action is needed before the damage becomes irreversible. Tom, thoughts? I have a lot of thoughts on this. And one of the thoughts that I've always had is in terms of corporate welfare. You know what corporate welfare is, Vinny? Corporate welfare? Yeah, that's the U.S. government giving like permanent subsidies or permanent prices. Failing out companies. Too big to fail. We're going to give you, you know, tarp money, all this stuff.

33:39What you find out is Monsanto and Archer Daniels Midland. Ever heard of ADM? Archer Daniels Midland? I know what Monsanto says. That's stuff that they put on the crops. Correct. Well, Monsanto and ADM make the chemicals that go after insects and a lot of other things they make where that's genetically modified seeds and things. They've been receiving subsidies forever, And they've always one of the top two that's ever them, Bayer, ADM. And it's just amazing the amount of money that goes to them. But then they turn around and sell these things full price to the farmers. And the farmers are trying to run it.

34:19The number one thing that freaks me out is that the average farmer is 58. And the only farmers that are making money are those with sales of a million or more, which means the factory farms and the big ones are the ones that are still there who can deliver. It means distribution in farming kind of goes away. You used to have distributors where you grow apples, I grow apples, Adam grows apples. We ship our apples to Pat. Pat is the largest apple distributor in the United States. He ships them to the markets. And then he pays us the going rate for wholesale apples. What happens is you're losing distribution and you're losing independent business people.

35:0158-year-old and rising. No one's getting in business to be a farmer. And I'd like to know, Pat, what RFK thinks about this because what it means is the only thing that's going to be left, good luck finding organic. because the only thing that's going to be left is the factory farm and genetically modified food that they can grow in big bulk at low cost and ship it to Costco. And so that's where we're heading. And because it's the small farmers that are making the organic stuff. And somebody's going to say, no, that's not true. There are big ones. Yeah, there are. But go look at the number of small farmers at CARE that are making organic crops.

35:43And so this is sad because what it means is we're heading to permanent factory farming and you've got people like ADM and Monsanto that are getting all these subsidies and then the independent farmers aren't. So I think that there's we've had too big to fail. But in American farmers, I think that there's such a thing is too important to fail. But I don't know where to start because do you then subsidize the farmer with tax dollars or do you let the market work? But in this case, it just it sickens me. I agree with Tom on a corporate basis and too big to fail. So I want to focus on something that is really underplayed in society today, and that's male depression and male suicide rates.

36:34No, stay on this topic. Stay on farm. It is. I'm telling you right now. Yeah. Okay, I'm staying on farmers. The reason I'm bringing up male suicide rates is because it's something that's very important here. I was meeting with a veterans group, advocacy group for veterans, great group. They said, do you realize that how many veterans kill themselves every year and was a shocking number? They said it was 35 for every 100 ,000 citizens. It was one of the highest up there by far. They said, you know who's higher than that? And they showed me the stats. They go farmers, people who work in agriculture, 43 through 100 ,000.

37:09The highest thing is mining workers. What I'm getting at is life is tough. if you're a military guy do you know what you're doing to your body to what it's taxing on you if you're a farmer the the stress that it's putting on your body and economic stress if you're a mining worker and you're living the mining of the mines people don't understand how lucky we have in society today because these men are putting their lives on the line for us so when it comes to the farmers the respect that you have for them is is totally justifiable because what they do for society we don't eat unless the farmers grow their food we're not protected unless the veterans protect us that's the angle i have on this yeah so okay um i mean you're not saying hey life is tough suck it up someone's got to do the job that's not what you're saying because that's a very cold position if you're taking that that's not what i said this this is this is tough out there yeah you know you know you know when when you go to the airport and you see military and i always want to walk aside and say hey thank you for your service thank you for your service but i see farmers it's the same thing thank you for your service i'm like what do you mean i said What do you mean, what do I mean?

38:13What do you mean, what do I mean? How many people are willing to do the job that you're doing? And there's something very emotional about it because they hang with their kids. They have kids like the OG reason why you had kids. You have kids because you want them to help you on the farm and help grow the business and you pass it down to them. And this is a generational thing. A lot of time when you see families like, this is what my grandfather did. I spent time with my grandfather on the farm. And the memories. So imagine your memories with your grandfather. What was those memories like? For these guys, the memory is I was helping them be a farmer.

38:39I was working with them. That guy was my hero. And right now, the way they're modeling it, they're finding ways, like, you know, the too big to fail, similar to how military industrial complex came in and they bought it. We used to have 55 different companies that built and sold weapons that were competing with Boeing, that were competing with General Dynamics. Now we've got like a handful of them. We showed that chart. Yeah, we've shown this many times. And now this is why I'm happy that Palmer Luckey is doing what he's doing. Trust me, we want more farmers. Trust me, we want more farmers to be, you know, doing what they're doing rather than picking them up and going through it.

39:16Unfortunately, a part of capitalism is this is what happens to capitalism. Unfortunately, there is not, you know, there's no. And the government gives a lot of subsidies every year to farmers. I don't know if you know the numbers or not. It's a big number that they give out to them. It's a very big number because they're trying to find a way for them to stick around and do their business. but yes. A lot of what BDC does is helping blue-collar businesses grow. Do you have any farmers? Absolutely. Oh, really? Saul and Mario just went and visited two of our farmers. One of them does$150 million a year.

39:52The other one does$300 million a year. Yes. Oh, I didn't know that. The margins are small, but they work their tails off. Can they adjust? Some of them can. Some of them cannot. And remember, it's like the small businesses. The small businesses. Remember the numbers that half a million to a million dollars? These guys are trying to have a hard time making it work right now. It's very tough. Do their kids want to get back into the business? Some of them do. Some of them don't. Yeah, right there. Look at that right there. So in 2025,$30.5 billion in direct government farm payments was made just to make sure they make it.

40:222026 forecast is$44.3 billion. So we're doing our best, but the reality of it is the model of the bigger ones coming and picking up the smaller ones, it's just happening at a very fast pace, and you hate to see these stories. And so, yeah, it breaks my heart. This is what's called crop insurance, and the American consumer pays for the crop insurance. But the top 10 % of the recipients take 78 % of it. And so the small guys at the bottom, the bottom 80 % only gets 8%. You know what this is like? And I want to move on to the next story. This is kind of like when they were giving out the PPP loans, and we had a board meeting.

40:58And I don't know what the amount was for us. It was somewhere between$1 million to$4 million that we take on PPP loans and never have to pay it back. And I sat with my board. I won't say the guy's name. He'll remember this. It was a handful of people in the room. They said, hey, let's take the money. We don't have to do anything with that, so I'll never take this money. He said, why not? I said, we're killing it right now. We're making more money than we've ever made before. You want me to take PPP loan? It's not impacting me. If it was, we would have taken it. It's not. Let the restaurant guy take it that's going out of business.

41:22That's what he's saying. So 78 % of it is going to the big guys that really don't need it. So they need to readjust this to give it to people under a certain amount of dollars that they do per year, not the big heavyweight guys that are already succeeding at winning. So there's some adjustments we can still do in this area, and hopefully we will. I double-checked the number. Bottom 80 % of the farmers only received 9 % of the local. That's P.S. because that's who needs it. That's who needs to go to. Yeah, that's P.S. So the money's going to all the big guys? Dude, you know what that's like? That's like giving unemployment checks to people that are employed.

41:56It's so stupid. What are you doing? If there is the unemployment insurance that we have that pays it out for three months until somebody gets a job, just give it to them. We're giving our money to everybody. I think it's a mistake. But anyways, let's adjust and let's go to the next story. We pray for you to all the farmers, your heroes. I got so much respect for you guys. Every time I see you, I love you guys. Appreciate you for your hard work and dedication. A lot of respect for you and your family. Breaks my heart when I see legacy businesses go away. As a father, I'm building my business that God will and one day the kids will be involved in it.

42:26Anyways, our prayers are with you and our support with you. Let me get to the next message. Can't wait for Brooklyn to be my boss. Next message I want to go to is what happened at the Idaho shooting? I want to show this to you. I watch this video multiple times, and I want to play this at a 1.5 speed. It's a four-and-a-half-minute video. We won't show all of it, but we will kind of fast forward. Remember last week when we talked about the Idaho shooting, we were all sitting around, and it showed the video of the guy going like this, and we're like, what the hell is going on? Then there was another brave man who got involved, and he came in, and he's like, wait a minute, I saw this, and he was kind of one of the guys that pushed him off to the point that he eventually killed himself.

43:08So this could happen to anybody anywhere. And I'm not trying to scare you, but this video depicts what happened there, right? So just imagine what the in-and-out workers look like when you see them. They're smiling. It's a faith-based company. They're not open on Sundays. They're building based on solid values. And in Idaho, it's the number one state and license to carry. More people in Idaho carry throughout the day than any other state in America. They're number one, just so you know this. It's not like this happened in Chicago, Chirac, or it happened in Baltimore, or L.A., or Compton. No, this is in Idaho.

43:47So watch the guy that's narrating as we're going through this. I would put the speed at 1.5. I thought we put it at 1.5. We did. Go for it. Okay.

44:02He shot her already, just so you know that. That's one. Now watch what he does. He stops the car so people can't go around. Shoots the guy right there. Shoots the guy in front of dead. Watch this.

44:19Horrible. So the cop just runs up. He gets shot. Runs away. He's bleeding. Okay. Mr. James retreats and draws his handgun. He's in a black shirt, right? The gray shirt. Perpetrator is in a black shirt. Got it. Now watch. People are all running. Due to his severe injury and blood loss, he is pulled back into his vehicle and given aid before going to the hospital. Sheriff, yeah. Gotcha. So now watch. People are panicking. Yeah. They got it. This is the guy. Watch. He's rendering aid to Ashley. He fires into the window a second time before his handgun jams. He's shooting in the window. Watch. He returns to his vehicle to retrieve a rifle.

44:48So it locks up. Look at the in and out. This is the workers. So imagine. Inside the restaurant and off-duty Idaho State Police Trooper assists in evacuating patrons and employees while he searches for the threat. With the rifle, the gunman runs back to the drive-thru and fires at nearby patrons before returning to the payment window for a third time.

45:08There's a cop. Yeah, but wait for it. There's a couple guys that want to come help and see what happens to them.

45:18The off-duty ISP Trooper and the gunman exchange fire. The gunman retreats before returning to the payment window for a fourth time, firing inside and striking the fourth victim, a good Samaritan who is attempting to assist the off-duty trooper and render aid to the victim inside.

45:33We still haven't seen that guy, George. Wait for it. Wait for it. No, you're not going to see it. See what he does. The gunman proceeds to the food window. Upon seeing no one inside, he moves on.

45:44What's wrong with this guy? It's called the devil. People like this exist. So now watch. These people are trying to get out and go save themselves. a woman fleeing from inside the restaurant runs alongside the building before encountering the gunman. She takes cover behind his vehicle and picks up the handgun he left behind. And now he runs off. So now he's running off towards the road. Yeah. But watch what he does at the road. So now innocent people are driving by. Watch what he does. Discovering it is jammed. She discards the pistol as she runs away and the gunman walks towards Blue Lakes Boulevard North.

46:13The gunman fires at multiple vehicles that are stopped at a red light. He starts shooting at the cars? Listen. He starts shooting at cars driving on a regular road. Oh, my God. Sick. So then he comes back. A good Samaritan with a handgun engages the gunman who is running north towards the Tesla charging station. So you see the guy right there is charging his car in his Tesla. Look what he does to him. Watch. The gunman shoots the eighth victim in the first Tesla. He then shoots the third deceased victim, Dale Schultz, and his passenger, the 10th victim, in the second Tesla. Deceased. The gunman proceeds through the parking lot towards the Twin Falls Visitor Center.

46:53You're sitting in your Tesla charging your car. He is seen by people inside who evacuate the store.

47:01This is just sick. This is just sick. He's just killing arbitrarily. He doesn't care who it is. Then he goes to a trail and he talks to some person that works there that kind of delays him. and then the cops show up, and then when they surround him, like the coward that he is, he shoots himself in the face. So how many fast food workers do we have in America that are young kids? How many parents do you have right now? Now imagine you're a parent, your kid works at McDonald's, works at Burger King, works at Wendy's, works at In-N-Out. Every day your kid goes to work, this could happen anywhere.

47:31So now, how do you process this right here, Tom? Now that you see the video going from the beginning to the end, how do you react to it? I have a lot of thoughts. I'm curious to know what you think about it. So, first of all, I know this area. Kim, myself, the girls, we've been to this exact In-N-Out a dozen times. Right across Canyon Rim Trail, where he ultimately shot himself, is where my father-in-law lives, right there in Twin Falls. And this guy was just absolutely disturbed. We can talk about him all day long. But what I I was amazed at the video, how many times did he say Good Samaritan?

48:10It's because the people there is a reason that Idaho is number 50 in muggings and in in crime, because there's a 62 percent chance someone's going to be armed. and I want in the midst of the tragedy I honestly was sitting there thinking to myself how many times was he interrupted by a citizen with a weapon a citizen with a weapon deterred him from the main street where he was indiscriminately shooting at those cars came back and it's just and this is before the police could arrive and set up perimeter and and do with this and so I'm very pleased that trained, responsible citizens were part of this.

48:54And I think people are going to talk about the tragedy side of it, which is number one in the headline, and people just charging their Tesla. Two of them get shot in the front seat of their car, sitting there in a Tesla, waiting the 20 minutes for it to get about an 80 % charge. That was a supercharger station. But how the second point I go to is if it wasn't for the good Samaritans there, how much worse could this have been? Yeah, so to me, the first thing that I get is, whatever you do, get a gun. Follow the guidelines of your state. Follow the guidelines of whatever you're doing. You have to protect yourself today.

49:29There's a lot of weird things going on right now. I'm going to show you a clip of what happened this weekend when Adam went to dinner in Miami. I actually want to go through it. We'll go through it right afterwards, too, because I want to hear your thoughts from it as well. and people, I, there was a, there was an article we read last week that said 2020, we read last week that said 2028, I think it was Axios, that said 2020 will be the year of AI elections, right? Bots. I posted a, Adam Kinzinger said something. Can you go on Twitter? Can you go on Twitter on Adam Kinzinger's account? I cannot even believe I'm going to this guy's account.

50:04Go to Adam Kinzinger's account. I don't know who he was until you guys were describing it. I'm like, I think we've talked about him once before, and then you remind me. I'm like, okay, I know who he is. He got shot out of the political candidate. Go a little bit lower. Go a little bit lower. Go a little bit lower. So I retweeted the fact that, you know, Elon Musk's Starlink is thinking about competing with AT &T and others. And I said, we were on a flight that had Starlink, and I was going right there. You're about to get to it, right? Click on that first. Click on my tweet first so we can go back.

50:34So right there. So Starlink is preparing to launch a rival cellular services challenge to T-Mobile, Verizon, and AT &T. I was on a flight yesterday that has Starling. The service was amazing. I was able to FaceTime and make calls during the entire flight. Literally, I'm making calls and doing FaceTime with people calling me. They're like, what are you doing? I'm on a flight. Now, it was a PJ. So we're with our business associates, eight of us. We're not on a regular flight. We wouldn't be doing that with people sitting on. First of all, flight attendants won't let you do that. So Adam responds back and says, which is so amazing just for everyone around you to hear.

51:05I bet you loudly talk about all your business deals, which we do. But he's being sarcastic. And I'm asking, what is he saying by this? I'm just curious to know what he's saying. So I went back and I responded to the comment. Go a little bit lower to see my comment being. And I said, says the guy who got a preemptive pardon from Biden. Thank you. Nothing says I'm guilty like getting a preemptive pardon. I'd keep my mouth shut if I were you. No one on either side trusts you. I would also put likes you. All the best. This is like a prostitute for media that's used. It's a cheap prostitute. They just use guys like this.

51:35but if you can click my comment and go under my comment, I want you to see what the first guy says. First guy says, STFU, which you know what that means. You're a Jewish puppet. Okay, all right. Maybe I am. Let me click on it. Let me see what this guy is saying. Go click on his account if you can. Yeah, hover over the non-picture. And look at this. Account started when? May 2026. Oh, this is a bot. So imagine people are like, this works, by the way, just so you know, people believe this. So go back to the account. And if you can, yeah, UAE. Go back to the account and look what I said. Okay, let's see, right there.

52:12And you're a bot who started this account two months ago. Keep dividing and spreading lies. You don't win at the end. You just make a ton of noise and confuse the majority for a short period. And they do. And so imagine if you're a young person who doesn't double check. Oh, my God, these people are these months. And then you all of a sudden take action and you go to become a hero and you do what this kid just did and you kill yourself. At the end, you killed a bunch of innocent people that are trying to. So what's the point? What is our responsibility as fathers, men, husbands, leaders of our household?

52:47One of the jobs we have is the S word, security, safety. We have to do our part. Things like this can happen at any time because crazies are everywhere. And right now there's benefit to inciting rage because they need those opportunities. Political parties look for these types of opportunities. But what can you and I do? We got to protect ourselves. You had something that happened the other day. We're in the car. We're talking where a guy pulls up in a parking lot, and you were ready. Oh, yeah. Yeah, you were ready to see. I saw two guys pull in. I'm cleaning my car in a parking lot, big empty parking lot.

53:20Two guys pull up at him. They're chilling. They watch me. They turn around, and they're in another empty parking lot, and it's just a stare-off. And they're staring at me, and guess what? I'm ready to go. And I'm just sitting there because my truck is tall, and I'm just like this, and I'm staring at them, and after literally three minutes, I just go, are we good? Are we good? By the way, my gun is right there, right in front of me. And then, voom, and they sped off. So I don't know what they were up to, but you have to be on high alert. It's pretty, and by the way, it's not for people to be like, man, imagine what kind of time we're living and we need to have guns.

53:50This happened in 1776 as well. This was the case in 1800s more than today. It's just, it was normal back then, 1900s and today. You know, it's a very normal thing for us to have to protect ourselves I can tell you what states I wouldn't be living in. I wouldn't be living in a state or a city where I can't carry. Never. You would never find me living in a place that I can't carry. Never. There's no benefit to it. I'm out. I remember the first time our Range Rover was broken into at night when I was asleep. Guy comes and takes my bag and takes my security system. And I said, uh-oh, we're not living here anymore.

54:2390 days later, I moved into a gated community. We bought a bunch of guns in California. And in that moment is when a Time magazine article came out on the cover. It says, you can pull this up, actually, Time Magazine, United States of Texas. And I said, you know what? I'm getting the hell out of California. And I started selling Jen, Moral, my family, Melva, everybody. We're moving to Texas. Everyone's like, well, we don't want to move to Texas. We're moving to Texas. We're moving to Texas. And we moved to Texas because it offers a little bit more of a freedom than it did in California. So you as a leader of the household, you've got to make a decision where you want to take your kids to feel free.

54:58Adam, I'll come to you for a couple thoughts, and then we'll move on to the next story. Well, regarding that Idaho shooting, you know, the first thing that comes to mind is just how they say life is short, man. Life is short. And we're in the insurance business. We know that life is actually long if you're healthy. But what life is is precious. At any point, I mean, at any point, whether you're in the car on the way to work, you're charging your Tesla at In-N-Out, crazy people are out there. So I agree with you. You got to take the necessary precautions to stay safe. That's really all it is. You wanted to talk about this other thing?

55:33Well, no, on the shooting and the thing, I mean, Tom made a bunch of great points. How many times civilians stepped up? I wish that cop, you're an off-duty cop, have a little bit. You don't just, whatever tactics school he went to, just running around the corner. He should come up and you know that there's a threat. You hear the shooting. Be more cognizant and use your training. But then, you know, we don't know nothing about this kid. What type of mental, what is going on with you? I want to find out the meds, you know, the social footprint, the friends that didn't say anything. The family. I'm very curious to what, and again, I'm talking about evil is evil, and I'm pretty sure it was inside of his soul.

56:09But what gets you to that point where you have to do that, and that's going through your body. Like when he was just standing there trying to figure out, am I going to go to the street? There's something evil going on inside you, but how he got there. But for that girl, the biggest shot, that young girl that ran all the way on the side, ducks for cover, grabs his gun because she was trying to engage, and the gun is jammed. That's why he couldn't keep shooting in the window. Dude, that girl's toughness is... Holy moly. In fact, she ducked behind the car, and in her head, she's like, I'm going to grab the gun, and I'm going to engage.

56:42It jammed. Thank God he didn't come to her because she would have been screwed. But Tom made a great point. The bravery and the people that stood up. Because guess what? If nobody shot back, if nobody engaged him, it would have been three times more. Have they located this guy's family? He's dead. I mean, they haven't told us anything, meaning the market right now is waiting to learn more about this guy. They still haven't revealed enough information about him. Hopefully they will see for us to know what's happening. So this weekend you're in Miami, and me and the family come back from dinner, and we're at dinner.

57:08We're about to watch Margin Call. All of a sudden Vinny's like, what's this? We're getting tagged all over the place on X. I'm like, what is this? And it's a video of, Adam, you're in it. I'll play it. So maybe, you know, let us know what's going on here before I play the clip. Just give us a little bit of an insight of what this is. I'm in Miami. I'm in Miami Beach. I'm actually going to an event for our friend Dominic Charginski. It's a meetup, and people are there. I'm not scheduled to be there. I have no affiliation with it. I'm just coming to say hi to someone that we've interviewed multiple times.

57:43And you don't know who you're going to run into in the lobby. That's really all it comes down to. Okay. And then here's what happens. You run into a guy named... I don't even want to say his name. You have to say his name. I think it's Jake. Jake Lang. So here's what happens. Go for it. I don't know what you guys do, but you guys need to get pressed out. Uh-oh. You guys need a couple of fucking nigger bombs dropped on your podcast. Whoa. I'm going to burn the Quran. Just like that. What are you doing? Yeah, that shouldn't be your thing. That's fucked up. That shouldn't be. By the way, he's sitting with like 10 people.

58:12That's a Quran. He's Jewish. He's against that. That's base. Yeah. That's not base. Don't be right about that. I just kept saying not my thing buddy. This is not my thing. It's not you're not my thing Burning good he's burning a Quran Bunch of race-trading faggots fuck Patrick back David deport him

58:39He's not just burning the cronies burning his bridge right now Bridge right now

58:49Yeah, he's just got a phone call. Patrick McDavid sucks Indian cock. He's just got a phone call. Yeah. Got it. Okay. So what is this shtick? This is the guy that takes the pork and goes in Dearborn and walks around and bacon and all. This is the same guy. This is the guy that's looking for trouble. You know which guy it is, Pat? Can you just play that? Play that? This is a Jewish dude. Hold on. Hold on the music. This is a Jewish dude, okay A Jewish guy that goes around Says he's Christian, Pat And he's trying to do civil unrest against Christians And Muslims, okay You know how I feel about Islam and all that stuff But I have Muslim friends and I love Muslims But what he's doing What he's doing, burning the Quran Shoving bacon in it You know exactly what his motive is And I'd be very, very interested to see Who's paying him to be that guy That's not normal and that's not natural, Pat That's not organic That's all a show And he's in a restaurant with butane or lighter fluid lighting, and nobody's saying anything.

59:48He's a fraud. He's a fraud. And I would bet money, Jake, none of this dialogue that you would ever say about him or us ever into our face. Ever. And keep going. By the way, keep going. Keep going to Dearborn and keep doing that crap with the bacon. Some people say he did say to Adam's face. Yeah, well, listen. I'm saying say it with me there and see what happens. Here's what I've learned. Here's what I know. You called me. I'm at dinner I just got to the restaurant remember I was like what's going on PBD you said how what happened how was it what's going on I go what are you talking about I go the meet up with Dominic that's like no the video of you I go what video I had no clue yes so you sent me the video I look at it and I realize this 15 seconds is all it takes to run into somebody for something stupid to happen I don't know this guy I don't hang out with this guy.

1:00:43You run into this person. So all you can do is avoid toxic people. Is this your first interaction with him? Yes. I think he's been on an unusual suspect. He's upset that you don't want him on the PPD podcast. Here, I'll give you some context, actually. You see some other kid. There's a black kid there and a white kid there, if you want to show the video. The one kid saying he's burning his bridge. He's burning his bridge. This kid, if you say this, he's not just burning this. Watch this. We're giving this kid... Hold on. There's a black kid there. He knew something was He's going to go down. There's a black guy there and this kid.

1:01:14Watch this. Just understand. I heard what he said. He's burning his bridge right now. This guy's burning his bridge. He goes, hey, man, would love to come on the podcast and talk to you. And I was like, yeah, man, we'll see. But that's what he said pre. Yes. I said, hey, man, we'll see. That's not my call. And then he goes, well, we got to press you, da, da, da. And I'm like, okay, whatever that means. The kid was trying to basically coordinate us. I'm like, yeah, bro, we're not talking. Imagine you're a black guy sitting at dinner with this guy who's shouting the N-word. Why are you sitting with this guy?

1:01:45Why don't you punch him in the face? Imagine you're this kid that's trying to, I don't know, do something reasonable with his life. And this is who you hang out with. My ultimate point is this. The people who are sitting with this guy have a choice to stay at that dinner or leave. I've been in some stupid rooms in my life. I've been around some stupid-ass people. What I do is walk the F away. if you're that person that after dinner stays there after some guy burns the Quran shouts N-bombs, telling everybody everything, that's on you this guy's got major issues good luck to him, my question is the people around him, why are you around this person?

1:02:21Jake Lang is the January 6th with a bat hitting, bro, he's there to provoke and I hope somebody out there, I don't know, one of these investigative journalists, and allegedly texting underage girls and trying to holler at girls too, so if you think about who he is, what he's doing, where he's from, Pat, and then beating up cops with a bat. Can you show that? That's him with a bat January 6th. No, no. Emphasize that. That's Jake Lang. He's there, Jay 6. Guys, so don't... Piece it together. Who he is, what he's about, what he's claiming he's an operative. Plain and simple. You're a fraud. You're a fraud.

1:02:57Thank you for sharing that. As much as information you know about him, I know nothing. He was a dude who came up to me to say what's up. We gave him unusual suspects. We were freaking cool. You were on the show with him? I was on the show. I was hosting the show. I wasn't on that show. No, you weren't. I don't know this guy. You're not an unusual suspect. Yeah. So I'm just saying, I know this guy is unoriginal. He's a freaking operative, and I can't wait to find out. We're giving him exactly what he wants. No, Mike, it's not even what we're giving him. So he, you know, I saw a girl the other day tag me in a video, and I'm like, wait, she just like went off.

1:03:31Patrick Bedavid is this. And she just went off on trash to me. I'm like, wait a minute. I think I know this girl. She came for a job interview. And I said, let me go check my DM with this girl. I did. She reached out to me. I'm a big fan. I love the content. I love what you, I love the fact that you interview Andrew Tate. And then there's an entire, hey, can I come and say, so I said, give me your number. I gave it to Robert O 'Rourke. Robert O 'Rourke, you go do an interview. And then now, so there's a pattern, which by the way, the longer you're around, this happens. If you don't give people a platform, they get angry and they come out and call you everything.

1:04:04That part, it is what it is. But the part with guys like this. Is burning the Koran? My son is reading it. What burning the Koran? You know, my son read Communist Manifesto. We read everything. I read Mein Kampf. Anything and everything to get educated, to learn what's going on on the other side that you may or may not agree with and ask yourself, why are so many other people interested in this topic? We want to get educated. Burn it? It's the dumbest thing you can do. That's exactly what caused the fatwa that you got from Khomeini back in the days with Salman Rushdie burning. You don't do stuff like that, but there are plenty of people like that in America today that want this, and it gets you to think about who wants to divide America.

1:04:50This is not a pro-America guy. This is not a guy that's going to unify us. This is not a guy that's going to do that. This just raises the temperature more than anything else. Now, don't get me wrong. The price of freedom of speech is what? He gets to say everything he just said. Of course he can. That's America. He gets to say anything he wants to say. But there will come a time where you're going to face somebody, and that person is not going to handle it like a lot of other guys. That's how this world works. You can go around talking as much shit as you want, then you meet somebody. And then something happens.

1:05:23Those types of people are out there. Our goal is to try to lower the temperature instead of seeing something like this take place. Unfortunately, this is not a good example of it. When I saw this video that was sent my way, I'm like, wait, what? What was this all about? So, anyways, now we know where he stands. And FYI to us, we give everybody a platform. The guy sent me a message on my neck saying, you know what? Things changed ever since you hosted BB. I said, really? Yeah. Okay. I said, tell me what other podcasts hosted BB and hosted Nick Fuentes within 30 days. Go ahead. I'll wait. Go ahead.

1:05:58And then tell me which other show hosted BB and Fuentes and Maddy Hassan and Andrew Wilson and Andrew Tate. And go ahead. Try to find somebody. It does not exist. It doesn't exist. We're the only ones that will sit down and have the conversations with everybody. And people feel comfortable doing that. You know, people will feel comfortable doing that. So I'm in the, like, you know, right now Andrew Wilson and I think Candace Owens, they're going back and forth. I hope they have a debate. I hope they do it. Okay. But you know what it is? I'm glad they're doing it and there's a camp that's going to side with Candace Candace has got a bigger audience than Andrew and there's going to be a camp that sides with Andrew but guess who wins?

1:06:38The audience that gets to hear both arguments and hopefully both of them will come prepared and let's see how people react to it so to me this behavior right here is the kind of behavior that gets America closer to a civil war you don't need stuff like this I'm telling you right now my heart of hearts, he's not organic that doesn't just come out of nowhere where you're that guy and you're doing it and it's all on purpose. And don't get me wrong. I understand about the fight. Okay? I understand. Islam, the ideology, the stages of them coming here. I get that and I'm willing to fight and I'm down the fight.

1:07:10Okay? Because the enemy that we're going to be fighting, I'm not going to pass it down to our kids and nieces and nephews. No. That fight's coming. And it's here and I'm going to fight it now. I just have the last word. But that's ridiculous. And that's him right there getting his butt jumped. Look at him. And then he's playing the victim. See, here's doing what right? He's there. He's there with the... He's a professional agitator. He has a sign that's like... He's an agitator. But wait a minute. What's that sign right there? What's he doing here? He's in, I guess, Dearborn? What sign is he holding?

1:07:36I don't know what it was. But by the way, let's just say he's holding a sign that has to do with Jesus, but he went out there and put the bacon... Bacon in his crotch. In his crotch. And then in the Bible. What are you doing? He's saying America's a Christian country. He's agitating. A Jewish guy with a Christian sign. Give me a break, bro. Go ahead. I don't know what... I just want to say this one last thing. I completely disavow this person. Of course you don't even know. I have nothing to do with this. That's all I'll say. Yeah. Okay. All right. So let's go to the next story. Next story I want to get into is, and by the way, this is the crazy part.

1:08:04People watch this and it's like going back to the day where I went to Publix and I'm wearing a future looks bright shirt and I'm wearing a future looks bright hat. And I do this every time when I go to the same lady to order my martadella. Yeah. Every time. And she smirks at me every single time. And she says, you really believe the future looks bright? Yes. You really believe that? Yeah. I said, you don't. No, of course I don't believe the future looks bright. I said, you believe in God? Yeah, of course I believe in God. How do you not believe the future looks bright if you believe in God? Yeah, but that's after we die.

1:08:38I said, no, that's not how this works. I said, that's not how this works. It works, but you truly believe in the future looks bright because God is in charge at the end of the day and everything works itself out. Even with that bot when I said, you're going to be able to confuse certain people, but you're not going to win at the end of the day. Folks, bots are coming for your brain and your mind. And unfortunately, you know who they're able to get? The younger audience. Oh, my God, let me go do something because I'm a hero. And I certainly believe the future looks bright ourselves. That position is not going to change for us.

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1:10:32I said, no, George. I disagree. We had a nice little friendly back and forth. And so I've worn these things. FLBs nonstop. They're so flipping comfortable. It's not even funny and light at the same time. If you haven't yet placed an order for yourself, your husband, your son, go to vteemerish.com, place your order. With that being said, let's get to the next story. Next story I want to get to is kind of a weird story. Weird story. Iran's president only allowed to speak to missing supreme leader in a dark meeting. What? This can't be real. This is a movie. This is Donnie Borasco. This is Goodfellas.

1:11:04This is Godfather. No, no. This is Iran. Seriously. Yes. So officially, the modern-day Corleone veto is a different name of Mochtaba Khamenei. That's who he is today. You've got to meet underground. Iranian President Masoud Pezeshkin was allegedly taken to a secret Tehran location, allowed minutes into a dark, tinted window car with a man presented as Supreme Leader Mochtaba Khamenei. According to Iran International, Pezeshkin could not see the man beside him and later asked whether the voice he had heard had really belonged to the Supreme Leader. Sources claim the report described the president as finding the situation humiliating, particularly after it took threats to resign to convince handlers to allow the meeting.

1:11:49Moshe B 'Khamenei, who succeeded his father Ali after his death on February 28, has not made any public appearances, no release videos or audio statements, leaving Iranians with no proof of whether he's alive or not. Rumors suggest he was severely injured in the airstrike that killed his father, potentially with a disfigured face or limb amputation. Pazeshkin claimed in May to have met Khamenei for two and a half hours, described in conversation as direct and frank, but in a Thursday state media interview, conceded communication is now very difficult. He nonetheless praised Khamenei as exceptional in terms of ethics, logic, and humility and denied planning to resign, saying, I will not resign and I will stand firm.

1:12:27Iran International had reported Pazeshkin attempted to resign dozens of times with Khamenei, allegedly warning he would accept the next resignation letter. Trump mocked the regime in April. Iran is having a very hard time figuring out who their leader is. They just don't know. Tom, thoughts on the story? Well, CIA and other people, there have been leaks all over the place since the attacks, the very early attacks, that there was a full building collapse, and supposedly he did lose an eye and was disfigured and allegedly lost a lower limb that was pinned in debris. So that's not conjecture. That's the conclusion coming out of multiple leaks and reports.

1:13:11And then the guy doesn't show up in public. And so he's basically, we have no place to say anything about this. And I'll tell you why. Because we just had Biden as president. And for the last two years, there was evidence of incapacitation. This guy is incapacitated. They won't even let him go out in public because they don't want to show what Trump to say. That's what I did to that guy. You're next. You're next. Vinny, they don't want that, right? They don't want to give Trump that victory. I knew where you were, and I got you. So that's what's going on. But they have basically an incapacitated leader.

1:13:52They're trying to make good and make it work. But you know what? We had an incapacitated leader. We could clearly see that Biden was suffering, whether it was dementia or Alzheimer's or age-related disorder, whatever it was. It was sad to see. If you have a heart, I do have a heart, and it was sad to see what we were doing with our president. So we don't – no pun intended, but we don't have a leg to stand on here because they're not the only country that's had an incapacitated leader, and they don't want to put it out in public. And then the real question is, Pat, who's really running the country?

1:14:26You know what it makes me think about? I'm sorry, but you know what it makes me think about is because he claimed, Pazeskin claimed he had a meeting with him in early May for two and a half hours, but no videos, no audio, no pictures, no nothing. And people are like, wait a minute, you really sure that took place? You sure that meeting took place? No handshake? Nothing. So we have to now believe that. And the part that gets me to question, by the way, this article is reported by Reuters, Bloomberg. So it's not like it's a story that's a, you know, daily mail story. No, it's a mail. It's a story that's coming up from credible sources.

1:15:00The question becomes, why drop that story today? Why? Why drop that story today? After what? After the offers that are being made, you know, after, you know, negotiation where Americans are realizing that Iran's economy is in shambles and they don't want Iran, you know, U.S. to have the leverage over that. By the way, you know what's the one thing Iranian leaders follow very, very, very closely? The polls in America, midterm polls, Trump's credibility. You know what Iran said on their news this past weekend? Iran said on their news this past weekend that the Iran war is the number one reason why Trump is now not a popular president in America.

1:15:38And the longer it goes, the less popular Trump gets getting closer to the midterm. So they know timing. And then at the same time, you know, the whole story with the 15 points that came in that Bibi apparently is not. Where's that story that says Netanyahu rejects Board of Peace 15 point peace plan until Hamas truly is disarmed. That story comes out until Hamas is truly disarmed. And Tom, what are your thoughts with the agreement, the 15 point why Bibi wouldn't agree to it? I think you even said it's kind of fair. It's not like it's that aggressive of a request that they have. Yeah, well, Bibi doesn't trust anything that the other side would be willing to sign.

1:16:24Period. He doesn't trust it. The same way we don't have a lot of trust of Iran. Sure. However, a lot of— May I read this? Let me read this. Israel rejects a 15-point plan. Netanyahu said at the start of a cabinet meeting, the IDF will not make any withdrawal until Hamas is truly dismissed and will continue to thwart threats against the forces and citizens. So that's kind of what the, regarding the Gaza Strip, first of all, I want to clarify that the main thing is as long as I am prime minister, there will be no Palestinian state, neither in Gaza, nor in Judea or Samaria. And Netanyahu said, when I say disarming commands, I mean the heavy weapons, the less heavy weapons, all the weapons.

1:16:58And we are talking about the real disarmament, not fictitious disarmament. Netanyahu called Trump our greatest friend in the White House, but added, we can and know how to stand our ground even against our best friend when necessary. Yeah, what Israel is saying is, I want to define your disarmament, and I'm not going to sign an agreement where both of us do something. And the agreement, remember, when Anwar Sadat came across the Suez Canal, and 67, Adam, or 73? I don't know. No, no. There's three major wars that happened in Israel at that time. So when Amr Sadat came across, there was an incredibly difficult negotiation because Israel actually defended and pushed back and pushed back further.

1:17:47And so now Israel was occupying land which was previously belonged to Egypt before they attacked. So they attacked and they got pushed way back. And there was this massive negotiation that had to go through. But cool heads prevailed and they were able to get it. Neither wanted military stuff in that area. So Israel historically has been able to protect itself and get what's necessary. This seems that there were some reasonable parts to it. But Bibi came back and said, look, if it's anything involving a Palestinian state here or you don't disarm first, we're not going to do it. And it's like it's like two guys that are pointing guns at each other, Pat.

1:18:32Right. You have a standoff. He says, okay, we both drop our guns. No, you drop yours first. The other guy's not going to do that. Boy, I drop my gun, then I get shot. So I kind of felt that there was room in this, but Israel doesn't want it. And I thought there was room to have progress here, and we need progress. And clearly there's some zero acceptables that Bibi has. I have three points. so number one Trump is in a very tough spot I don't know if you've ever tried to negotiate with Iranian and a Jewish guy it's not easy and that's what Trump is trying to do so if I would recommend Trump if I was in Trump's ear with Iran and Israel right now I would say number one brush up on the book that you authored called the art of the deal make sure you remember all your stuff and I would read one more book you ever read the book never split the difference and it's basically a hostage negotiator who's basically saying, here's how you deal with business, like how I dealt with hostage negotiations, right?

1:19:36Negotiate as if your life depends on it. Now, there's why I respect Iran and the IRGC, because they're really good at what they do. And what do they do is they hold people hostage really well. That's kind of what terror, that terrorist thing, you know, they'll hold their own people hostage. They'll hold the Gulf states hostage because if you try to basically do anything in there. They're just going to shoot down American bases. And if they could, they'd hold the whole world hostage with nukes. And Trump is realizing, how do you negotiate with these people? You know, what's the famous thing they said in Afghanistan?

1:20:08You guys might have the watches, but we have all the time. They will wait out Trump. Now, what I will push back on that is, and I've said this before, they're worried about the end of times and Trump's worried about midterms. So come midterms, I think Trump is going to deal with this one way or another. We're just going to wait this out. The Iranian economy is plummeting, whereas what? What's the worst thing that's happened here? A dollar extra in gas prices? I get it. I think after midterms, this thing gets settled. As far as Bibi goes, look, when I was on the plane, I read this article. Here you go.

1:20:43Here's these two guys sitting and having a discussion. I think they're not fully aligned, but they're aligned enough to know who the bad guy is, and that's Iran. Vinny? uh well i mean rejecting the plan but i mean complete disarmament i think it's almost impossible standard how do you prove it who decides hamas has zero weapons left who's going to verify the tunnels the hidden weapons and not like if israel gets to decide when hamas is fully disarmed and israel gets to decide when the war ends okay and at some point america has to ask like what's actually achievable what what are you trying to do because i've seen the videos i've seen everything gaza is no more so we're hamas so we just have to take your word and say like hamas i i thought we killed everybody.

1:21:21I thought everybody was dead. So now you can just keep saying, well, Hamas is still there. You ever think, Adam, because think about the sons and all the people that Hamas is never going to go anywhere because now you just created a bunch of people that are upset. What's your recommendation? My recommendation is it's going to keep going. It's never going to. What's your recommendation? There is no recommendation because there's no, there's no. All right. That's like when you say the war on terrorism. When you say the war on terrorism, there's no face. Let me read this to you, Vinny. Let me read this to you.

1:21:47So from the post-millennial, Nearly half of Muslim Americans have a favorable view of Hamas. Pew poll finds. This is not Fox News poll. This is not Breitbart. This is Pew. Pew and Gallup are probably two of the most credible that are nonpartisan polls out there. And some may even say they lean left, but they're fairly reasonable. According to Pew Research Survey from July, 44 % of Muslim Americans support Hamas, while 26 % have a favorable view of Israel people, 26 % of Muslims. One out of four Muslim has a favorable view of Israeli people. 74 % don't. Three out of four. Among all Americans under the age of 30, 58 % said they have a favorable view of Palestinian people compared to 32 % said the same about Israelis.

1:22:38Pew also found a significant shift amongst Republicans. Republicans under 30 view Palestinian Israelis more similarly than older Republicans, a notable change from previous years, and Republicans were far more favorable towards Israel. Democrats have more positive view of Palestinian authority than of Israeli government. Younger Democrats were slightly more likely to view Hamas favorably than Israeli government, while older Democrats were slightly more favorable of Israel's government. Religious affiliation also played a significant role. Jewish Americans and white evangelical Protestants were favorable toward Israeli people than the government and other groups.

1:23:11White evangelical Protestants were the only religious group surveyed in which a majority expressed favorable view of Israel government. That means Catholic and others, and they were on the other side. The findings came amid grown skepticism amongst Americans towards both Israel's actions and conflict of Gaza and Iran and influence within the U.S. So 44 % supported Hamas. How do you react to this poll? I mean, that's not good. It's a terrorist organization. But my question is, what pushes Americans, besides the bots and all the, what is changing that view on people of Hamas. I'm very curious. What do you think?

1:23:47I'm just curious because we saw October 7th, horrible. Horrible Hamas, horrible terrorism, horrible. But the response, I think one of them could be the response of Israel was so brutal and so over the top that it's making people bad because it could have easily been... You know what's crazy? I had Ben Shapiro on last week. And the podcast is going to come out this Wednesday. And we talked about Nick Fuentes, and he said something he's never said about Nick Fuentes, which I think the audience, Groypers, go tag each other. You'll know. This Wednesday. This Wednesday. It'll drop. And then we talked about his biggest blind spot.

1:24:25I was surprised that he was actually open to the discussion of his blind spot. He actually openly talked about it. Okay, his blind spot. It's a great part of the discussion. It's one of the best parts of discussion. Yeah. But you know what else he talked about what Israel did wrong? He says, you know what's the biggest criticism Netanyahu gets in Israel today? I'll let him describe it. Yeah. He says, in Israel, both on the left and on the far right, they're both united on one thing, that Bibi didn't respond fast enough and strong enough against Hamas. Let me say it one more time. In Israel, the people that criticize him, that are probably going to take over Israel now, and they're going to replace Bibi.

1:25:01On the left and the right, if there's one thing they're united on, is that Bibi didn't react fast enough to what Hamas did to their people. He didn't go hard enough. He didn't go hard enough. So, I mean, we'll see what's going to happen there. The part that is interesting is 44 % is favorable of Hamas. Tom, how do you look at this poll? Pew. Well, with some degree of horror. You have people that are living here in the United States and want all the freedom that we afford, and they have a positive viewpoint of a world terrorist group. And that, so does it shock me? You know what? When people tell you who they are, believe them.

1:25:43And that's it shocks me. You know, we have great freedoms in the United States and we have all sorts of, you know, faiths from people around the world. I don't remember Hindu Indians saying that they had a favorable view of some, you know, terrorist group and they would love them to come over and wreak havoc and they look forward to it. I don't recall Buddhist Japanese who came over after World War II talking about that they look forward to Buddha coming over and raising Cain. And I just didn't see it. And now they openly say what they want to do in the future with Islam in America. And then they say they support a paramilitary organization that's a terrorist group supported by Iran.

1:26:34To which I say, I'm not surprised, but I'm kind of worried. Adam, final thoughts and we'll move on. Well, number one, Israel has a PR problem. They do not have a winning a war problem. They have a PR problem. Hamas are like freedom fighters. It's like saying Al-Qaeda are aviation aficionados. I didn't call them freedom fighters. I called them terrorist organizations. I wasn't talking to you, Tom. I'm just talking about Hamas. which is we're talking about that's the stories about right so uh what i'll say about this for the people that love hamas um i would ask how do you feel about isis how do you feel about al-qaeda how do you feel about hezbollah when you answer that we'll have a little clarity but more importantly how do you feel about america because something tells me the people that are rooting for hamas are also rooting against america so if i'm israel i'm looking at the lay of the land and I recognize that I have a PR problem.

1:27:31But then it comes back to the conversation they had in white man can't jump. Would you rather look bad and win or look good and lose? And I would argue you always want to win. You always want to have total victory if you can. And you'd rather be respected versus liked. So, yes, Israel has to clean up their PR problem. But Hamas is the bad guy here. Yeah. Well, listen, we'll see what will happen. And, again, the Ben Shapiro interview when it comes out, It is very, very interesting what things he talked about. And by the way, he reached out to me to come on the podcast. We didn't reach out to him.

1:28:04You know, the last time when it was canceling all this stuff after Nick Fuentes, he reached out, we sat there, we had a great conversation, and Nick was one of the topics of discussion. And it could lead to a very interesting thing afterwards. Let's get to the next story. Next story I want to get into is Flock Cameras. I don't know if you're following this thing, but Flock Cameras, very, very weird what they're doing. How much more do you want to know? By the way, I actually think this is going to be a topic of discussion in midterms in 2028. that people have to address, that people truly have to address.

1:28:32So let me kind of go through this with you, and you tell me how you feel about this. What page is it on, page 14? All right, here we go. Flock planned to use 350 ,000 Uber, Lyft, and delivery drivers as mobile license plate cameras. What? Uber drivers? Yes. What's your outcome? Why are you doing this? A Flock presentation obtained through a public record request shows the surveillance company plan to use dash cameras installed in hundreds of thousands of Uber, Lyft, and delivery cars to collect license plate data for its network. The document written to present to Georgia Office of the Attorney General last August stated, plus Nexar partnership, which include 350 ,000 Uber, Lyft, and other delivery service devices.

1:29:16Flock told 404 Media it never executed the partnership with Nexar, but the presentation lays out the company's plan to enlist ride share and delivery drivers to gather license plate data. It is not clear whether Uber, Lyft or drivers would have known their vehicles were being used for this purpose. Nexar sells dashcams that provide front cabin and rear view and already offers clear license plate capture with full HD video. Neither Uber nor Lyft responded to requests for comment from 404 Media. The report comes as Breitbart News recently documented at least 50 law enforcement officers caught using flock data to stalk victims, including online police chief who allegedly tracked his ex-girlfriend and her teenage daughter plates about 600 times.

1:30:06Vinny, your thoughts on this. I'm 1 ,000 % against this, and I don't know how all Americans are always like, our privacy this, our privacy that. This should be at the forefront. Connor's going to play this video, Pat. This is in Waukesha County, Wisconsin. Police boxed in the silver SUV, held two people at gunpoint after a flock camera flagged the vehicle as connected to a Milwaukee homicide involving an armed suspect. There was no accident, no traffic and stuff like that, but the traffic was ridiculous. The flock system scanned the license plate, matched it to an alert in the database, and police responded.

1:30:40Like, potential dangerous guns drawn about to kill this person. The problem was the alert was outdated. The police no longer were looking for the vehicle or the people inside of it, but someone failed to remove it from the system, okay? Human error in this computer. And the camera did exactly what it was designed to do. It read the plate, alerted the police on that information. And by the way, this isn't the first. I saw a video pad. This lady's at her house. This video here? This is the video. Play this video. Look, that. Guns drawn. Pull over a car, they say, was flagged by flat cameras in connection to a homicide automobile.

1:31:13Hands open. Turns out this was all some sort of mishap with the Flock camera systems. In fact, they think that's a murderer. Because the car, the camera's reading the license plate, reporting to the police station, but the police station didn't update it. So they're chasing this person, stops him in the traffic. There's another one where a woman is, a detective shows up to her house and goes, this is you, you're stealing a package. And she's sitting there calm going, no, no, I'm not. He's like, you're lying. This is 100 % you. Guess what? It's not her. and then you mentioned there's up to 50 people are using it to spy on people there's two other videos i sent connor that one one guys at a golf course look at this what the hell is this doing at a golf course you're golfing what what really really you want to track people there that is unbelievable at a shooting range and everything i'm just telling you guys right now and it's being used to stalk people let cops do their job okay we pay them to do their jobs give them the tools to go after criminals i don't want cameras on every corner pat and by the way this is ai It tracks movement.

1:32:13If there's a dent on your car, it could flag you, and it knows that. Let me tell you what my concern here is. It's less flock, it's more Nexar. Because a study of 2023, academic study, used 24.8 million Nexar dash cam images from rideshare drivers in New York City to identify where police vehicles were located. Researchers detected police vehicles in 233 ,596 images and used that information to analyze police deployment. Okay, so then here's my question for you, Vinny. that's maybe it's the devil's advocate are you okay with ways telling you there's a cop ahead i don't use ways anymore but but are you okay with the technology that tells you a quarter of a mile ahead of you there's a there's a cop yes do you support that i use it you don't drive bro how would you use it well i tell the uber hey don't go this way or go that way because it's are you supportive of knowing when you're driving fast you're going 90 miles You don't drive fast, but I'm saying let's just say a person's driving fast 90 miles an hour, and it says there's a cop ahead of you.

1:33:14Do you support that? I'm kind of indifferent because it doesn't really apply. A lot of people would say they support it. It's legal. Well, a lot of times it's like there's a cop. A lot of people like it. A cop was there because they were doing something. Do you know what I'm asking, Dope? Yeah, yeah. Okay. That's a form of it. Yes. That's a form of surveillance. True, but that is Wazers. Shout out to the Wazers. They're reporting on what they're seeing. When it's a surveillance state, I'm 100 % against it. Yeah, but the laser, a part of it is also technology that shows what they're doing. Because this Nexar company, you know, this isn't a new thing.

1:33:52Like, Nexar has been doing this for a while. You know, Nexar has deliberately targeted ride-share drivers for a year. In 2021, it partnered with New York City's Black Car Fund to put cameras in thousands of vehicles driven by independent and rideshare drivers. 2021 is five years ago. So have you ever heard of Nexar? Tom, have you ever heard of Nexar? Nexar, no, but I know about the program and I know why they were doing this. They were putting cameras inside black cars because drivers were getting jumped. They also put cameras back there because drivers were hearing things And then the police wanted to know, hey, when the two guys got in the back of your car, one of them had the black backpack, what did you know?

1:34:40I wasn't paying attention. I followed my Uber, you know, map that I was supposed to, and I dropped them off. Where did you drop them off? What did you see? So police have been trying to get this. So I did not know about Nexar, the company, but I know I am very familiar with the program because police wanted the surveillance data, Pat, on people in the back of the car. and you get into an Uber and there'll be a little sign, you are under surveillance. Yeah. Because there are female Uber drivers that didn't want to get robbed or jumped as well. Yeah. Well, Pat, ready for this then? Yeah. These are small cases.

1:35:17Imagine when it's at the hundreds of thousands where detectives are showing up to your house going, this is you, you're under arrest, and then you have to wait to prove yourself. And then what's going to be the next thing is going to be pre-crime. Listen, from the steps that you're taking now, we assume that you're going to probably go and kill this person because you're mad at her because she broke up with you. What is that, Minority Report? That's Minority Report, but I'm just saying, but Tommy, these are the small steps. And I get, Pat, you made a great point. What are you comfortable with?

1:35:42Flock made a deal with Ring to get door camera stuff, and then they also made a deal. They actually bought Aerodome, which was police drones. They bought the company, and they're trying to provide this. Amazon Ring cameras, because Amazon bought Ring. pat homeowners associations wanted people in their neighborhoods everyone please get a ring camera so that we can turn this over to the police and those of you that have been having high value amazon packages stolen on your porch what are those called porch pirates says now we can turn this over to the police so on that side people go hey that's great hey are you looking forward to aoc being president in 2028 and using data like this no to yeah i'm I'm not a fan of that.

1:36:28Well, there you go. Well, Americans will give up the freedoms, Tom, for the illusion of safety and security. Sell it on law enforcement benefit. And then bad people use it for their thing. Well, it's just the Palantir argument. Adam? I mean, it's definitely giving me George Orwell 1984 vibes. I'll say that. But I'm also, like, sort of—I understand that this stuff's happening. Everyone's got a cell phone. Everybody's a citizen journalist these days. We're going to—nobody wants a surveillance state. But, like, cameras are everywhere. Ring cameras are everywhere. Thank God we have cameras in certain places.

1:37:01Yes, we don't also want to be tracked. So I think there's like a pros and cons thing here. I don't think this is a black or white issue. What will probably happen is like somehow you could register and like opt out of being tracked or something like that because we do believe in, you know, freedom of movement and not having been tracked. But don't you think this kind of stuff is just inevitable? But it's weird. It's eerie. Look, Andrew Bustamante, shout out to him. By the way, Andrew Bustamante, when we were on, he says, brother, this is what I'm trying to tell you, that we are living in surveillance state and there's nothing you can do about it.

1:37:32They're watching everything that we're doing. And if I'm not mistaken, if I'm not mistaken, that he even recently just announced that he's leaving the state and going to a complete different place. Yeah, he's the least discreet spy ever. He's like, hey guys, I got a podcast. Can you go to Amazon? I'm going to go into hiding now. Can you go to Amazon, by the way? Can you go to Amazon and type in Andy Bustamante? I think his book is coming out. you know, you got to read these guys' books to see where they're at with the stuff that they know. Because he said, Pat, this is happening with the UNI right there.

1:38:02If you just click his name, whether you like it or not, yeah, that's the one that's coming out right there. Outsmart Everyone, Spy Skills to Gain an Unfair Advantage and Work and Life. And that book, if you want to put the link below to go buy the book that's coming out on Andrew Bustamente. But to me, when you think about this, it's here. It's just how much they're going to expand. and it will be a political thing that some guys will support it, but it is going to be on the ballot. I think flock will be a topic of discussion in 2028. When we did the governor debate with Paul Renner, Jay Collins, and James Fishback, right?

1:38:38You know what they all wanted to talk about? Flock cameras. Everyone wanted to talk about the flock cameras. By the way, let me say something about the debate that everybody knows because people keep asking me. Byron Donalds, who is the leading candidate, he's ahead by a mile. I don't know where he's at, between 35 % to 45%. He said he would do the debate if anybody hits double digit. On multiple reports, Jay Collins and Fishback, whether you like these guys or not or support them or not, they both hit double digits. I've called Byron Collins and I've texted him. I've not heard back. So from my end, because my name is also on the line, I've reached out to try to bring Byron to do the debate.

1:39:16His team hasn't gotten back to me. He hasn't texted me back. He's always been very good at getting back to me. He hasn't done it thus far. and that is their way maybe of saying that they don't think they need to do the debate. I do applaud the Collins camp and the Fishback camp that got to double digits. I actually really, really, really like Paul Renner. I really like what he had to say. Nobody knew who he was, and sometimes marketing matters. But Byron Donalds told me he would do it. He hasn't done it. He's probably going to end up being a Florida governor here, and it's not like I want to have a thing with all the Florida governors every single flipping time.

1:39:46This is probably a guy that I'm aligned with a lot of the things he believes in. But we try to schedule the, what is that number, Joe? According to Cal sheet, this is not the odds. No, not Cal sheet. He's up 98%. That's not the point, though. That's what I'm saying. There's polls. There's your word. Totally get it. There's my word. You told me. I said that. I got your commitment. And I think a lot of this is behind us. Evan, whatever, the Florida GOP guy. Oh, the Republican. That even DeSantis is on my side. DeSantis says there needs to be a debate. What did DeSantis say? DeSantis says you should debate.

1:40:17DeSantis, yeah, there needs to be a debate. and you know some of the people are like well he's just doing what you know Trump did, Trump didn't need to do debate no no he did and Trump debated multiple times and Trump was the president previously and Donald has not been the governor but they're already going to the other side Evan Power, the Florida Joe Evan Power, yeah what's the last day by the way what's the last day if they do decide to have a debate or not you know when the primary ends for Florida can you see what the date is I think it's August 23rd oh it's coming up soon but he's going to debate in the general right against the Democratic August 18th.

1:40:50So that day cannot come fast enough for Evan and can't come fast enough for the other guys. So they avoided the debate. You saw that Fishback kind of called in on Byron's show recently. Yeah, he said, this is Thomas, and he calls in. Look, nobody is doing marketing better than Fishback. You've got to give him credit. Again, whether you like it, this is not about policies. Nobody does better on marketing than Fishback. He's doing a great job on the marketing side, and these guys don't want to sit down and talk to him. He gets eyeballs. He knows how to get eyeballs. Not all eyeballs are good eyeballs.

1:41:21It's not the point. I'm about the debate. I'm about the debate, especially if you're not a governor yet. I'm about the debate, and we're going to be around for a while. If you give me your award, keep your award. I don't like it when you give me your award and you don't keep your award. Anyways, let me move on to the next story. So the next story I want to get into, and by the way, he's probably going to end up being the governor of Florida. And when he does, we're going to support him. But if you deal with me long term and you tell me you're going to do something and you don't do it, that's a problem with me.

1:41:48I don't like that. That's just not how you do business. But let's move forward. All right. Next story, AOC. So, AOC, no one made a bigger claim that they want to run for office and overcome one major objection. You know what the objection is? Are we ready for a female president who may be pregnant? Well, she overcame that objection by doing one thing. You know what that was? She froze her eggs, and she did it live. And here's her doing it. So, go for it. If you want to play this clip for the audience to see. Don't be weird about this. It's too late. Even though I know all of you will be. Okay.

1:42:21So what is she doing here? She is... She's playing for the camera. No, no, she puts the shot. Is she already pregnant? I don't know. I don't know. She's got... I'll make the noise. Ow. I hate needles. That wasn't so bad. What is it? She's gained a lot of weight. I'm not even being rude. She looks like she's gained a lot of weight. Okay. Are you asking what this is? I want to hear Tom what she's doing. I believe this is hormone or medication treatment. This is not GLP. No, this is hormone or medication treatment in preparation for having your eggs harvested from your body and frozen. So what do you think the message is?

1:43:01Why be so important to make a video about it? Are you trying to overcome an objection? Is it a marketing stunt? Is it a way of saying, hint, hint, I'm running in 2028? What do you think the purpose of that video is? I've frozen my eggs. You've frozen your eggs? I thought you were pausing. I'm sorry. But the question is when somebody does this, when in the history have you seen an influencer or somebody running for office publicly show that they're freezing their eggs? What would be the outcome of doing that? I believe, this is my speculation. This is just Tom talking. I can be a very effective president.

1:43:35You don't have to worry about it. If I want to have children, I can have a surrogate do it. They can take my husband and send them into the bathroom with a plastic cup, and then we can take my frozen eggs, and we can go fertilize them and then have a surrogate carry. I can be a fully functioning president and still build a family. So you also see it as this is my way of saying don't worry about me. I'm running for office, and I'm not going to be pregnant. She's trying to take that objection away. Okay, and then she was also asked a question about being a DSA or not, and here's her reaction. I think that's the video about her being part of the DSA.

1:44:13And she answered in an interesting way. Go forward. By the way, just a quick definitional thing. What, in your mind, is the difference between socialism and communism? I think, to me, the fundamental differences, I mean, there's many. One prevailing one is democracy. And I believe that democratic socialists are fundamentally pro-democracy. And we believe in the ballot box. We believe in respecting the outcomes of elections and governing democratically and ensuring that the ideas and policies that are implemented are won through popular vote and popular opinion. And so I think that's why so much of what we focus on is also making sure that we are providing for the majority of Americans, guaranteeing health care, raising wages, strengthening the right to a union.

1:45:09And I think that that's at its core what we're about. Are you still a member of Democratic Socialists of America? Of the New York City chapter. The New York City chapter, not the national. No. What's the difference? So you're still a Democratic Socialist. A little word salad right there. Pat, we talked about this earlier. If you're in the mafia, it doesn't matter if you're in the New York chapter or the Cleveland chapter. You're in the mafia. Like, shut up. Like, it's just. Straight from Cleveland. And by the way, credit where credit is due. You've told us about her. You've warned us about her.

1:45:41And listen, the smile and the young and this movement. Say socialist. Say communist. Say everything. Guys, these people, these people are for defunding the police. They are for abolishing ICE. They are for opening the border. They absolutely hate you if you're rich and you're making money. And from her estimate, Tom, the world is going to end in what, 12 years from 2000? Okay, well. What? Everything you're saying is correct. You guys, I sent you the Cal share. Were you excited? I'm not, I don't, listen, besides the, Tom, she's probably going to be the nomination for the Democratic Party. But I want people to know this movement, that big tent that they keep talking about.

1:46:19I'm telling you guys right now, Tom, at the end of the day, the Hassans, the movement, the all these guys, that whole Islam and whatever. She can say what she's doing, Tom. They're opening the doors for all these people. And I've said this before. The enemies we don't fight in our lifetime, Tom, our children are going to have to fight it. Your children. And guess what? I'm saying when it comes to that, my attitude is simple. We have to fight it now. Bring it on now. Because guess what? They're going to have to have their own fight. 1 ,000%. I'm not taking it away. But as long as I don't want them to inherit the same fight that we are.

1:46:49We can't just sit back and be like, oh, yeah, they're just here. Nobody's sitting back. I am absolutely not sitting back. He's saying you're sitting back. That's what Vinny's trying to say to me. All right. Well, then, I'm not sitting back. I'm saying is that the opponent in the general election is very critical, and I believe she is going to be that opponent. I agree. So we need to be ready to fight her values. That was crazy, though. Don't forget that you guys call me crazy. I didn't. Adam didn't believe it. He still doesn't believe it. No, no. Pat and I talked over the weekend, and Pat pointed out that I was.

1:47:17Pat, no, specific words you guys said. You're crazy and you've lost your mind. Me? You're crazy, man. I don't. Pat. You know what? Wait a minute. I like you, man, but you're crazy. You're crazy. We talked this weekend, and Pat reminded me. He said, Tom, you thought it was speculative, and you weren't there, but you at least gave some hearing to it. I never said Pat was crazy. But she's right. So to your point, Vinny, we have to get ready. $175 million in predictions on Cal sheet, and now she's within a point and a half of Gavin Newsom. Go ahead, Adam. Adam, go ahead. No, go ahead. You good? Come.

1:47:55Okay. I'm actually happy for you. I feel better now. You good? I feel better now. Get it out, baby. Get it out. You good? Go ahead. All right, good. I'm actually happy for AOC. I'm happy for her first husband, Riley Roberts, who could potentially be the first husband of the United States. I know that Kamala didn't pull it off. First partner. And I'm looking forward to her being pregnant. I wonder if she wants to be referred to as a mother or if she wants to be known as a birthing person. I want to know what happens. Maybe if she has a kid that wants to transition, how would she feel about that?

1:48:30Take as many shots as you want. I'm not taking shots. This is a formidable person. These are policies she supports, sir. So don't tee on my parade right now. One of the things she said here was women can do anything, which I agree with. The challenge is that they can't do everything. So is she going to be a mom? Is she going to be the president? Is this guy going to be the first lady husband? We're going to see what happens. but it's always interesting to see what happens when they dictate everything you should do but when she becomes pregnant and a mother i wonder if she's going to want to trans the kids or not yep so we'll and by the way while you were staying on this topic she was also asked about hassan piker because a video went viral this weekend of an old clip of hassan piker you showed it to me i think this is the one vinnie of him watch this clip of hassan piker go for it we're going to keep bringing in immigrants in this country on purpose just so they can fuck your sister and then maybe even your daughter we're gonna destroy the white race bitch i didn't know that's what we're here to do i don't know we're gonna keep bringing an immigrant to this positive wow i thought it was bleep so anyways this is him from uh in the past when he made this video and so aoc was asked in the same interview what you think about hassan piker and i don't know did you see that interview where uh the same guys asking aoc about hassan piker well he's changed he apologized yeah he apologized for saying america deserved 9-11 so we're supposed to go okay that's cool So as if that feeling, the picture that he has of the world trade burning and Americans dying and jumping to their death, just because he said he's sorry, move on.

1:49:57Is this it? Guys, move on. Yeah. Go for it. Another person who's been made an issue is Hassan Piker, who obviously endorsed Abdul Syed in Michigan. You've been on his live stream, you know, at least a few times. He's somebody who said, you know, that America deserved 9-11. Now he backed off from that. Yes. Yes, yes, he's apologizing. But he said a lot of controversial things. Is he somebody that should have a role in the progressive movement going forward? You know, I think when we look at our elections that have happened, we have lost young people. Much hay was made about the fact that we lost young men in the last election.

1:50:38And many of the same consultants that are wringing their hands today were the same ones talking about how we need to go on Joe Rogan and we need to be not so willing to engage in cancel culture. And I think that the flip-flopping on this is a tactical debate that they may be having. But she does say that he changed. She's not the same. But let me ask you and be honest. As a man, somebody that said America deserves 9-11, somebody that said that kill capitalists and let the streets soak in their blood and that refugees who escaped communist regime can suck his you-know-what. You want me as a New Yorker and her as a New Yorker.

1:51:26Shame on you to just go, well, he said he's sorry. Give me a freaking break, Pat. This is why Donna Brazile and all these people are like, we have a big tent. This is a party of a big tent because they know that their party's been hijacked because of their laziness and their TDS for 10 years, Pat. And they're done. It's over for them. It's over. She's going to be the face. The Hasan Pikers are going to be the grassroots people like the Charlie Kirks. And guess what? Just because they said they're sorry, they're all going to go, oh, it's okay. It's okay. It's not okay. Okay? He's not got that. That guy hates America.

1:51:57He says he's unpatriotic. He dresses up like Mao Zedong. The best thing you want is for her to accept Hassan Piker. The best thing that can happen for you is the left receives him. I hope so. The best thing that can happen. I hope they all receive him. I hope they all support. I hope he campaigns with them. I hope he goes and campaigns with them. Because you have to realize that messaging of what he says, one, is a terrible example to America. And most people are not there with him. Most people are common sense. The youth is like, look, just allow me to have a life, buy a house, have kids, and afford to be able to build my own family.

1:52:34Most people don't have that kind of hate in their bellies. The guy, the way he speaks, he speaks purely the hate language. It's purely the hate language, and it's very attractive. To who? There's a video that's gone viral. Anthony asked me a question of this. I never know what Anthony's going to ask me when I walk in. He says, hey, can you react to this video? What's the video? This video is a video of a guy that used to be in PHP, and he says that if a person walked out of your meeting, that you would lock the door. I said, yeah, I would. So tell me why you would do that, because I don't want you to distract me.

1:53:09By the way, ask people that were at the VOL conference early on. See what they would tell you. You've been to the VOL conference early on. You've got a ladder infection. If you walked out, I'm like, dude, wait until the next break to walk back in, because everybody would do that as a distraction. So even one guy in the middle of the meeting, what do I do? I said, hey, guy, listen. I go up to him. Man, this is a waste of my time. And his business partner's like, dude, we're here. We need to take our business to the next level. This is a waste of my time. You know how many deals I could be doing right now if I was back at home?

1:53:34I said, say, you realize if you talk like that, if you're not here, there's a business run without you. I said, you don't own your business. Your business owns you. And he kept bitching to his partner. Finally, I said, look, I'm willing to give you twice the amount of money you invested to buy a ticket to you as long as you leave within the next minute. It was like$6 ,000. He took it. I said, you have 60 seconds. He took it. I said, go to outside. Tell them I'm going to text my guys right now. They're going to pay twice the money. Wow. He bought a$3 ,000 ticket. I gave him$6 ,000 just to leave.

1:54:00Those are the standards. But guess what's a popular video to make? Well, you know, these guys lock the doors. Yeah, we do. These are standards that we have, right? So Hassan's message is going to resonate with the people that also hate and are rage and anger. It does. How big is that population? Is it people that want to burn down America and rebuild it? hell no it's a smaller percentage let them have it let them have that community and see if that message is going to resonate with independent voters that you got to win over exactly it's not going to independent in the general election here's how i look at it can i go yeah vinnie touched on this the left but but i want to say a part that trump is doing that it's a mistake i i want to get into this i want to do something that the president's doing that that i think it's a mistake and I know I'm going to get you know people it's like you know it's a bad thing about being in the position that I am and we are how do I describe this we're we don't have a place I don't know how this makes sense like the moment you know the Jews are like oh you know bbd podcast and it's like I don't like what he said over there so oh Trump does why would he criticize the president.

1:55:15All he does is defend the president. Every week we're like losing people. Let me tell you, Bill Maher said something here that I agree with, that I think the president's making a mistake with. I don't think we should go into this area. If you got the Bill Maher clip, this is socialism. Bill Maher accuses Trump of going further left than them. I said this a few months ago when they invested into Intel and said a percentage of it is the U.S. government. I don't know what the number was,$50 billion or$15 billion. Tom and I both agreed on this. Do you have the video clip on this? There's a video clip of Bill Maher saying this.

1:55:44I don't think we need to go into investing into companies. I don't think that's socialism. You're making it easy so even though a person who's a great salesperson that can overcome any objection like the president can, he'll be able to convince his party and say, yeah, look how much money we made going into Intel. Look how much money we made investing into NVIDIA. Look how much money we made. We're making money for you. We're making money for you. I get it. but that's the socialist argument nationalizing then they're going to be like well here let me play the clip this is what your president said what's the difference and then you're going to go this much but you know how far they're going to go they're going to go this much then what do you do correct so i'm not worried about a capitalist choosing to invest into companies because you're a capitalist i'm concerned when a socialist gets in charge which they eventually will And then what are they going to be doing?

1:56:41Hey, let's extend this. What do they say? Give them a little bit. The other day I watched, preparing for the Ben conversation, I watched this interview with, what do you call it, with Pierce Morgan 30 days after Sandy Hook happened, and they're there, and Ben was calling up Pierce Morgan. I don't know if you guys remember that interview. He says, do you realize of all these mass shootings, how many of them use AK-47? And Ben says, do you realize of all the people that were shot, The percentage that were by this, it's guns. Why don't you go ban guns? Go ahead, Pierce. Why don't you ban guns if you really want to protect everybody?

1:57:13And Pierce was stuck. He was cornered. And what is he trying to say? You give them a little bit, they're going to take a lot of it. If we're giving them an ounce of them being able to play the socialism card, they're going to go full on, you know what? You can't be making policies just based on you being president for the rest of your life. That's not how America runs. the way America goes is very different. It's very, very different. You know, is this the one? This is the one. Play this clip. Go for it. It's so interesting, the wrinkle in this story, because now that they're communists, there's an opening for socialism.

1:57:48And you know who's filling it? Donald Trump. Donald Trump. How else do you explain? A 9.9 stake in intel. Mistake. By the government. Don't do it. Is that not socialism? NVIDIA, we took 15 % cut when we let them sell chips to China. Nippon Steel, that's merged with U.S. Steel. We have a golden share. We basically run their boardroom now. And you know this is socialism, I think, because Bernie Sanders agrees with it all. Oh, yeah. He wants to do it with the AI companies. The free market is dead. They have decided that the government wants to control 30 different companies. And Intel alone, which was a loser because of NVIDIA, they basically own 9.9 % of that company.

1:58:31And that's a lot. And President Trump, after they invested in this company, he then went on to buy stocks in NVIDIA, which shot up 200%. Okay, so he actually made a ton of money on this. His government created a floor on a stock. You can pause. By the way, as a guy that voted for Trump three times, this is a mistake. We can't do this. Period. As a guy that voted for Trump three times, we cannot do this. Because, you know, it's crazy. like the company I just left. My job, you know, when we went to this last conference, I told my guys, don't make it about me. Don't make a whole video as a founder.

1:59:13Patrick, David, I don't want any attention. I want to come give a simple message and leave. Tom, how many times did I say that to everybody? You said it weekly for the past year. Literally, you talked about it. I don't want anything. I want all the attention to go to Brian Adams. I want all the attention to go to Integrity. I want all the attention to go to the leader's heart, all our guys that are growing right now. I don't want any attention. Why? Because I want the business to be healthy after we leave, right? Okay. You can't just think of how you can control these contracts with NVIDIA and Intel while you're president.

1:59:44You have to think about how it's going to happen when the next political party comes in charge. And what do they do with that? Do they abuse it? I don't think it's a good move. I think we're making a mistake and we're just feeding into the socialism argument. By the way, if I'm AOC, if I'm any of these guys, you know what I'm going to use? Guess what I'm going to use? That this. I'm going to use that argument. Of course. You can't give it to them. You look like you want to say something. Well, I wanted to weigh in on this. I agree mostly with you because I agree mostly with the position of Donald Trump.

2:00:09But here's what I've learned in politics. I'm never going to agree with anybody 100%. So I'm solving for 80. You know, the whole 80-20 rule Pareto principle, the Reagan quote, someone that you agree with 80 % of the time is a friend and ally, not a 20 % enemy. Yeah, there's things I disagree with Trump. Look, let's use Charlie Kirk and Hassan Piker as an example. I think Hassan Piker is the Charlie Kirk of the DSA left. And you could put up Charlie's words. You may agree with him. You may disagree with him. I agreed with most of what Charlie said, but not everything. But when it comes to Hassan Piker, I mean, how many people agree with his greatest hits?

2:00:52I do not support the United States of America, says Hassan Piker. America deserves 9-11. my favorite flag is Hezbollah I don't have any patriotism in my heart if that's what you agree with vote for that I just think the average American is going to look at this and be like this is absurd I don't agree with everything Trump's doing but I agree with nothing that Hassan Piker's doing so as far as the economic thing where I actually need some clarity is is there a difference between a stake that they said or a partnering or an investing versus what the socialist communists want to do which is seizing the means of production.

2:01:29No, no, you can't. There's a difference between 100 % and 5%. And that's kind of what I'm getting at with the Charlie Kirk-Piker thing. I agree with Charlie Kirk 80%, 90 % of the time. I agree with Hassan Piker 0%. That's not how life works, though. I'm just saying it's a binary option. That's not how life works. We can sit there and say this is not good. And a lot of times when you think, you know, it's like, well, I can do anything and get away with it. You can't. Nobody can. Maybe for three months, maybe for six months, maybe for 12 months, where you are so untouchable and your insane status.

2:01:58Look what Iran's done. What is Iran war doing so far politically on every side of the Republican political party? Are they 100 % supportive of it? No. What's happening? Nobody is a prophet forever and just loved and admired. Nobody is. Nobody is. I went to my insurance conference. My own guys didn't come and say hello to me. These are guys that I helped become decamillionaires. They didn't want to come and greet me. One of them. Two of them. How is that even possible? It happens. they forget from stage. I said something. One guy's like, I don't remember. Of course you don't remember. You forgot a lot of things that when you were only broke, going bankrupt, going through all the issues, one guy had your back the entire time.

2:02:37People forget that's normal when it happens. You hope it doesn't happen, but it happens, but it happens, but you have to make the right decisions long-term, not just for the old people that were there. You have to make it good for the new people that their lives are depending on you 10, 20, 30 years from now, that are the younger people coming up that want to have wife. kids buy a house, buy a car, have their dreams become a reality. The moment you forget about those guys, forget about it. I see what you're saying. Forget about it. HP analogy. Forget about it. You got to think about it. As much as you love them, you got to forget about it and move on.

2:03:09Let me see if I have another story to get into or no. I think we're over time. Let me do this last story. I don't even know if we have time for that. I don't even know if we have time for that. Let me see if I have the last one. Guys, we got to get ready. We got to go to a WNBA game later. We got to hurry up. Give me a second to see if I can hit any of these stories. Is there anything that you guys are thinking that I missed? I think I got all of them. I think we're good. I think we drove it. We'll wrap it up. Great podcast, gang. For those of you guys that are in here with us, again, for the Vol Conference, if tickets are going left and right right now, especially this last week, especially the last two days, I can't tell you why.

2:03:45If you haven't, we'd love to see you guys, especially those of you guys, conservative values. You believe the future looks brighter. You run a business. You want to find a way to take your life to the next level and be around a community of others where you build relationships together, you don't want to miss the Vault Conference. Vault 2026. Go to vault2026.com. Again, Vault 2026. And last but not least, Tom has a special message and a gift to give to somebody he loves the most because something very special happened today. Tom, tell us. I have the 25th annual one-year contract with my wife renewed.

2:04:16It's my 24th year wedding anniversary. The BizDoc, babe. Kim, I love you so much. Thank you for watching. She watches all these. She listens to it. She's getting their classroom ready right now, and she'll be listening to this. So I love you, honey. Thank you so much. 24 years, and I have a one-year contract for this year for the 25th. And I so appreciate it. Congratulations to both of you. If you're a husband and wife married and you want to know how they're doing it, both of them are on MNECT. Give them a congratulations and ask them a question on marital advice. Tom Ellsworth is on MNECT, and his wife is also on MNECT, who has been a teacher for 30 years, can give great counsel.

2:04:51send them a congratulations there god bless everybody take care bye bye bye

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