Hannah Berner: Leaving Reality TV, Starting Giggly Squad & Finding Her Confidence

0:00Someone was like, you just have to do the Slavic smile. What is that? And I said, what is that? And they were like, the Russian girls don't smile. Well, I should know that. Oh, they don't know. They were like, they're very good at being like, hello, welcome to Wimbledon. Welcome to Pretty Tough. Bend your knees. Have good footwork. And I'm Maria Sharapova. I mean. So I was like, oh, I have to channel. The sad part is that's very accurate.

0:33Welcome to a very special edition of Pretty Tough. It's our first ever live show recorded in front of a sold out crowd in New York City. And my guest today is a lot of fun. Comedian, podcast host, and lifelong tennis obsessive, Hannah Berner. Before she was making us laugh on Giggly Squad, selling out comedy tours, or filming Netflix specials, Hannah was singularly focused on tennis. She competed on the junior circuit before playing varsity tennis against boys in high school and division one at the University of Wisconsin. Her dream was going pro until life took her down a much funnier path. So today we're getting into all of it, her journey from the court to the stage, what it's really like being married to another comedian, and we're going to find out whether her heart really belongs to tennis or comedy.

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2:20Welcome to Pretty Tough, Hannah. This is my first live show, but you've done this several times. I live off the adrenaline and the dopamine of attention. You really do. Any tips? You're going to love it because the energy that they bring makes it so much more fun. True. Also, don't be afraid to bring it. I feel like you've done more nerve-wracking things in front of people. Really? Like what? I don't know. Something. So on our podcast, we start with a quote by the guest. And one that I found from you was perfect for today. You said, your dream wasn't to be a stand-up. It was to win Wimbledon. I'm obsessed with Maria because she's savage, first and foremost.

3:11And then a champion. And then a fashion icon. Is that true? Yes. What? This is if my life went very differently. This is like a before and after commercial. Like, don't do drugs. No, I'm just kidding. Oh, you're so focused. Oh, my God. I tweezed too much my eyebrows in college. You guys. No, when I was like seven years old in Brooklyn, New York, I decided I wanted to be a professional tennis player. and a coach told my parents like she's already too late to I don't know the coach basically was like this is way too late. What are they talking about? I don't know that's what I said so I immediately was like F that dude because I don't curse when I was seven and I said I I'm gonna show them wrong and I'm gonna go pro and I had a very creative silly side to me but I felt like tennis was where I fell in love and I literally, tennis was my dream until end of college.

4:15And now I've found myself in a different career, but just because you fail at something doesn't mean you're not perfect. That's very true. Well, in the context of the US Open, starting today, like it now starts on a Sunday, like next year it's going to start on a Saturday and then it's just going to be like a month of the US Open. It's like Thanksgiving, it's so confusing. Are you going? I'm going tonight. Oh yes. Do you have like favorites? What's Hannah's current favorite player? It's so funny. I I always love rooting for the underdog. That's so boring. Tell me who it is. I know. I'm annoying but like I love Alcaraz.

4:56Who's not the underdog. But he. Thank you. I lost the audience already. I got heckled. I literally got heckled. Who on the girl's side? I'm watching Tennis Channel 24-7. What? Yeah, I'm watching like... You're like a stalker. Yeah. No, I don't know why you agreed to let me do this interview. Like, their security needs to be on this stage. Wait, can I tell you a story? Tell me. Okay, so... I mean, that's why you're here. Yeah. You're like, that's the one thing you should be doing. But not to name drop, but I befriended Chelsea Handler, who's my icon. You and Chelsea Handler are actually like my icons.

5:31So she was always in your box. She's wild. Yeah, she's insane. Yeah. So we're all comedians. Yeah. she would be in your box during tennis tournaments she got fired after one tournament but yes yeah oh yeah she also like didn't know tennis and she was well now she does yeah yeah but she do you know the story no she came to the olympics and she attended the first round match and somehow at the olympic this is london 2012 and she comes oh my god people know when it was yes london we there and um she comes and somehow i look at my coach and she's sitting next to like almost next to my coach in his ear and i was like change the game plan such a distraction because i am i mean i am so focused like i i know everyone that's in my box and all of a sudden chelsea's sitting there i was like no no that's not the friend's box that's like my coach's she's drunk so she somehow oh she she came in and out like 10 times during the match you had like 10 drinks in anyway i win the match miraculously and i look at her and i'm like since you sat there you're not gonna leave until i finish this tournament and she held true to her word and stayed till the final and then after the final she's like well what the fuck was that she's like i don't hang out with losers she she looked at me eye to eye and was like uh what what was that that's not why i stayed i hate when friends come to watch you play and then you lose and you're like, I'm going through a lot right now.

6:59So who's going to win? I thought it was so cool to see Chelsea, who was like at the top of her game in comedy and you at the top of your game supporting each other. And I was like, oh my God, one day, imagine if like I was in Marisha, it was boxing. It was so pretty cool. It's too late. I'm not coming back. Well, you never know. I know Serena's shit pasted. I know Serena's making you think. I actually taught tennis to Chelsea right after college. I was teaching tennis a little and randomly taught her in Long Island. and I was really nervous and scared. But we became friends later through comedy and she invited me to her show in LA over this last couple months.

7:35And there was a little after party. It was actually quite big, a lot of people. Is this the same show that I went to? Maria Sharapova, that's her name, is standing in the middle of the party. You can't miss her. Gorgeous, stunning, taller than everyone. And I start freaking out to my friend. I'm like, that's Maria Sharapova. And my friends don't know tennis and they're like, say hi to her. and I'm like, this isn't how I'm supposed to meet Maria in like a crowded room, just being like, hey, love your work. And like, that wasn't how I wanted to do it. You did not say hi. I know, because I was too scared.

8:08I didn't want to. And you were with friends. I didn't want to bother you a good moment. So instead I was like, I'll professionally wait for an email. Because you knew one day I wanted to meet in a more fun one-on-one setting. All right, we got distracted. Sorry. So let's get back to the US Open. who's gonna win it i want your hot hot takes look coco's hot right now she looks really really good and okay well she just won cincinnati so that's like an easy choice what about the underdog oh okay i'm she's you're so hard on me i'm sweating okay um that's not a hot take i want pagula she's she's ready oh that's a good win it's really good fans i like it but who did you model like did you did you model your game after someone like who did you oh my god you would have this is so crazy to to talk to you about, because I always envisioned playing you one day.

8:57You would have beat me on one oh, however, you would have been so annoyed by me. Like I was that annoying player. I was slicing, I was getting every ball back. I was hitting weird shots. Some of you might know, I did not like that. I would have just sliced and diced and prayed and hoped that you didn't bend your knees enough and you hit it in the net. And then like got really mad that day. I didn't get mad, I kept it together pretty well. Your mental game is everything. Thank you. And I always like saying as someone who stopped playing tennis, I speak to a lot of former tennis players and I say, whatever made you great in that is going to make you great in the next thing you do.

9:37And at first you feel like this is my only identity, but then it's like you are you and we're all so multifaceted like this podcast is about. So I mean, I'm just as a fan excited to see all the things you've been doing since your career because you can put anything into it. That is very, very kind. And you played against, like, boys. And you said you wanted to play boys because they were strong and you wanted to be stronger against them. And you beat them. And in your senior year, you only lost to two boys. How do you think they felt? So I played. Honest opinion. I played for the Beacon Public School tennis team.

10:14They represent Beacon. Wow. They didn't have a girls team. so title nine you have to let the girls play but I was like a internationally ranked player so I wasn't trying to lose to like a guy who just plays on his high school team so I felt like I needed to win but the guys on my team were so supportive and so fun they would joke like take it easy on her and it was such a fun experience but I also realized looking back I said I want to play like a boy I want to play like a boy it was a different time like like like power Or just like what part of playing like a boy? I think it was powerful and just like the men.

10:51Male sports was respected. But growing up, seeing you, seeing Serena, seeing Venus, no other athletes had the star power that you guys did. And you guys created equality in women's sports. You were a huge part of that.

11:13And when I was choosing the sport I wanted to play, when I saw you guys walk on and what you were able to accomplish by yourselves, I was like, that's what I want. I want to play professionally. I mean, that's the beauty of sport. Like, that's what I love going to an event, to any sporting event, and, like, watching an athlete go through these, like, momentum shifts where you see the agony, you see, like, the relief, you see the excitement. all within an hour and a half of their competition. And that experience ultimately flows into so many parts of their life. And it's not something when you're in it as a teenager you really think about.

11:56But when you're older, you're like, I'm so glad I had that experience to rely on. Well, what's so impressive about your career is you were the one everyone wanted to be. It's fun to be like, and when am I going to break through? but every time you won the court if you lost that was not pleasant for you no it sucked how did you deal with and you didn't lose a lot it's pretty bad it's really hard I mean I that's it's actually one of the reasons like the from what I heard is they went through one season of the Netflix show around tennis players and it didn't get renewed and part of the feedback was that it was so dark like it was so deep and it was like to see players come off the court and like like in despair and like not want to do it again also they're not talking to the camera after that they're like i need to reprocess everything i've done people don't that's not uplifting enough and the real that is the reality it was it was a great picture of what the truth is you know as a player you like you lose a match everyone expected you to win and and there are just points within the next two hours, whether it's the press conference where you're answering those like really tough questions where you've yet to establish an answer for yourself.

13:10You don't know why you lost, right? You did everything you could, you prepared, you, you know, believe us, like we worked our butt. And you're in a little bit of shock right after. Yeah. Like we're, we're also a little bit, that's a great point. We're like a little surprised. So we're still like processing it, you know, we were the favorites. And then like we get in the lobby and like the bellman's like, oh we're so sorry you know I got tickets to your next match and you're like well is that supposed to make me feel better because it isn't and it's like I flew my family from across from Europe to see you truth and and then you get to the room and you're like in the previous matches I won they like you know brought me chocolates and then you come to the room and you're like oh the plate's empty and you're like so there's always these like little touch points that remind you that you did not win that day and so that's really hard i look at you though as mentally you're i don't know math but she's a top top top percent of something and they always say michael jordan was so good at after a miss forgetting really quick well that sport were you make an error you lose a match great thing about tennis particular is that you always have a next chance the next day do you think you were i love how you're asking me oh yeah we've turned you're meant to be on my podcast today.

14:26We've turned. We've turned. Kidding. Are do you, cause I, I fail a lot. And I think cause of tennis, they say you win a match. You still could have lost 40 % of the points. So I think I lose a lot and I bounce back pretty quick. I do think on the tennis court, I was like, someone will get a net cord on an important point and I'd be pissed for like four games about it. I'd be like, why do I want to do that? Um, did you feel like that? Yeah. I'd be like, um, there's so many different ways of hitting your racket on the ground. That's not the way I do it, but you do you, Hannah. Do you feel like it was innate or is something that you had to teach yourself to bounce back?

15:11I mean, I think it comes with the territory and the quicker you did, I mean, with experience, the quicker you just get over it. And you almost have to be like stupid enough to just forget the mistakes that you made. You know, you analyze it, you talk about it with your coach and you look at video and then you're like, it was the past. Let's look into the future. Let's, tomorrow's another day. So, and the quicker you did that, the quicker your turnaround was. And back then they weren't having psychologists to the extent they have now. No, I only started working with someone when I had shoulder surgery because I had this like pain that everyone was telling me wasn't there.

15:48And I was like, just trying to prove to everyone, wait, by the way, I, I, there's pain there. And like, but your MRI is not showing until it really did. But that's a whole nother story. That's for another podcast. One of the things that I, one of the things I love talking about on the podcast with these incredible women like yourself is like making change in your life or in your career. And a big change for you was acknowledging that tennis wasn't going to be your future. How did you decide and pivot to something new? Great question. Thank you. She got the card. I actually, this is not why I didn't go pro, but I did get hit by a car in my senior year.

16:27And she's laughing, this girl on the right, I'm dead. She's like, pfft. It was like, it wasn't a career ending injury, but it was one of those universe moments where everything seemed to be going wrong. I was playing number one, and I knew if I had a good Big Ten season, I would probably go pro. I got hit by a car. I lost five matches in 10-point tie breaks. And it was one of those things where I was like, you know what? What if we stop suffering for a second? But it's really hard because with tennis, it's all about being comfortable, being uncomfortable. So I had trouble understanding the voice in my head of you just got to keep pushing versus am I like a surfer that just can't hit the right wave?

17:13that was a like weird metaphor but I actually I always had a really creative side to me that I was suppressing and I was always goofy and I would get in trouble working out because I'd be making people laugh and being silly and losing focus and I did a little sports broadcasting in college and part of me was like I think I want to do video which is so embarrassing like to say you want to be on camera is actually like the hardest part to be like I want attention but you're on camera while playing tennis like that's part of it a hundred percent you're putting you're did you not realize that not really and also on the tennis court you guys I was a nervous Nelly like I was I would get I hate to say the word but I would get the yips all the time it would move around from a serve to a forehand oh I have a question on double faults later so we can oh can talk about it I got you I also I when I was 14 I was ranked like 15 in the nation and went to Florida they changed my grip on my forehand oh why do they do that that's the thing I'm like I just had they just said just trust us just trust us and I would I was trusting them but I got really good at the forehand slice but all these things happened to me you had a forehand slice well because I was like not confident in the enrolling it what are you doing with your hand so for anyone listening to this podcast she is showing off her forehand that is that I could not hit so I would I would win matches like no serve no forehand basically just a torso but I had a lot of heart tennis it was always I loved practice and I didn't like matches oh yeah no that's and that's when you agree I mean no you loved matches I did love matches yeah well that's why I said like that that's when you knew that's but I mean I should have known for 20 years but I was it was the end of college and like I would be going about my day and like oh, I have to play a match later.

19:07It was very judgment day. And now looking back, more mature, I realized I had all of it except the confidence. I mean, I believed I should win, but I didn't believe in the little parts of it to get you there. I was obsessed with the result, but not necessarily the journey of the match. I just wanted to win. I just let me win. And then I'd win ugly, and you don't even feel good after. Oh, no, you do. That's the best. All I did was win ugly. You've never won ugly in your life. No, no, no. Oh, yeah, I did, like plenty of times. I think a few people in here can confirm. Yeah. Well, you always looked beautiful.

19:46I worked with Jimmy Connors for a couple of weeks. It did not last long, but he was like my coach for a few weeks. And he used to, I'd play a practice set, and I'd just play a terrible game. And it was, I'd like have break points. I didn't take my chances. and then I ended up losing the game and I was like what a waste of time I just like worked my butt off for 10 minutes in this game and I lost it and he's like but that's the best because he's now thinking like he spent 10 minutes trying to win a game on his serve so just that like little mentality shift from then on like even when I had break points but wouldn't win that game I was like that's okay I put a I planted a seed that's like playing doubles when you fake them out a little.

20:32I don't know what that's like because I didn't play doubles. She was like, babe, I don't do that. I was like, girl, sharing? What? But she keeps asking me to play doubles with her. I'm like, I'm busy, Maria. I do comedy. She's like blowing up my mind. They're like, do you want to have a co-host on this show? I was like, no, no, no. I want all the attention. I got this. But it's crazy. With tennis, I loved it so much, and I did love the competition, and I would win ugly, and I'd pull stuff out, But it wasn't sustainable emotionally. When I discovered stand-up comedy, I remember the first time I went on stage, I was walking on Caroline's in New York City.

21:08And I immediately thought, oh, no, what if what happens to me when I go on the court is what's going to happen when I go on the stage. And I'm going to lose confidence and I'm going to double fall and I'm not going to be who I know I am. And I got on the stage and I was I felt like I was talking to my friends at brunch. And it was, I was like, wait, this is how Maria Sharapova must feel when she's like, I'm going to hit an A's in Wimbledon. And I felt like, oh my gosh, all these things I learned from tennis, for some reason, this is where I'm meant to be right now. And stand up, you're alone, you're traveling, you're dealing with adversity.

21:45It was like a perfect transition. What a breakthrough also, like a mental breakthrough where you got to acknowledge that this is my place. And also I decided to like, I don't know if you guys are in therapy, but reparent myself where with tennis, I was really mean to myself. Like when I'd lose, I'm like, you little piece of shit. And with comedy, I was like, no one's spending money on me. I don't have a coach. The only pressure you're going to feel is you put on yourself. So I was like, what if I was nice to myself during this process? So when I get off from a set, I'm like, you did great. You learned.

22:22And I coached myself the way I wish I was coached in tennis. I love how honest you are about it because people hold that in, like the aspect of, wow, this was really scary. It felt overwhelming. I couldn't acknowledge it. I couldn't break through. And then you find a space where you're like, it's my time to shine. Yeah. And I thought everyone was having these crazy nerves, stomach aches before playing. They do. They do. part of it. It's how you channel it. It's not normal to go like that. If you go to a match or a big moment or a big meeting and you don't have, you know, the butterflies, then there's nothing on the line.

23:04Like that's the beauty of performing, of overcoming those little, you know, insecurities or you've worked on something and you hope that, you know, along with your team, you're like able to showcase it. And yeah, I always, I mean, I love the butterflies. That's the thing. The butterflies you have to and like I love the butterflies like before we walked on today I was like oh now I feel I love feeling like I'm about to perform and I just thought with tennis everything was really hard and I was you have to lean into it yeah but um I do like just showing that you can not accomplish something and you have to be tough to then with comedy it's not my ego where tennis was a lot of ego.

23:49So you can fail at things and still succeed at things is kind of what I'd like people to remember. Great point. You're not a loser. Just because you, I'm not going to get into it. So you find yourself on a reality TV show called Summer House. And toward the end, you're painted as a villain. you leave the show how did you shift that narrative because the hannah burner that i'm sitting across is not that i can confirm well i think reality tv at the end of the day is like a tv show and they need different characters each year i was two for three had two two of three of my years were fun and great.

24:40And my last year, I was COVID and it was so difficult. We were locked in a house and we were all just fighting with each other. How many of you? There was like nine of us, maybe eight of us. And I remember when I left the house, just feeling like really bad anxiety. And I definitely didn't feel like I fit in anymore. And I didn't feel like I was in the right place or with the right people and I had been doing comedy but they weren't showing it and I was hanging out with some comedians I was telling them some of like the fights and stuff that we had on camera and they were making fun of me and laughing at me and they were like I would have done so much worse if that was said to me and done that and I realized like oh it's a shift in perspective like you're in this crazy world right now when you have to laugh at this and you have to have some humility and when the show aired I couldn't be on my phone because it was so scary so I just kept going on stage to just like I'm like if people are gonna judge my character at least judge me like in the flesh even though I don't like saying in the flesh but it became therapeutic for me to be on stage it's kind of like moist I don't like that you brought that up though well true thank you though um but yeah we i just kept going on stage to kind of like work through it and then i got fired which by the way star power um getting powered getting fired is empowering because it's like they like kick you out of the nest i think i'd still be on bravo and i would never be sitting here with you i really hope we got that angle of you kicking kicking the audience in the air.

26:20Wait, can I do my mario trip of impression? Sure. Where's your agent? I mean, brace yourselves. Oh my gosh, what is she doing? Oh, you're doing the little, the foot shuffle. Okay. Is that, oh, there it is. There, oh, the little, the butt back. Oh, my lower back. Okay, that was good. A round of applause. That was our physical comedy. oh well I was gonna get to confidence next so that was a really good segue she's like that took a lot of confidence don't do it again is your best friend and your giggly squad co-host Paige has said that your confidence should be steady where does that confidence come from well has the stage enhanced that confidence?

27:11Tennis gave me a lot of confidence in that. I was crazy where like, I'd be going to a match and I'm like, you cannot swing through on your forehand. That would be bad. Definitely can't hit a second serve, but I'd be like, but I'm going to win this match. And that was crazy of me, but that belief got me really far in tennis. And gave you that inner. And it gave me, I just felt like I can deal with adversity. and even when I'm on stage people are like how are you telling jokes in front of 2 ,000 people I'm like if a joke doesn't land you can make fun of that like oh that's where you guys draw the line where with tennis double faulting against Duke third set your whole team loses and then you have to sit in a van for six hours in silence that's what I'm scared of I mean now that you've painted that picture it's dark yeah but it's funny because I went to a racket mag party this week and I saw all these players from my past like from eastern section from nationals from pro and we all felt like we were like out of a cult where we were like were you like look at me now well it was fun to be like we never talked to each other during juniors like it was pretty cold so then to look at someone and be like I actually like I know who you are you played for UCLA I'm a fan I love following you and for us to be like that was hard right and I've never had more respect for these women that at a time were like villains in your story they were between you and your dreams yeah oh it's like serena and i and then at one point were you just like holy fuck i'm proud of us i'm like i have so much respect for this individual because she knows exactly what i'm going through and like who else knows the boundaries that we keep pushing every single day and it's her and the pressure the responsibility not just for a day not just for a tournament 10 months out of the year the scrutiny the ups the downs the injuries that half of the time nobody knows about you know showing up to a tournament and saying withdrawing from the event because you're injured and the tournament director being like are you sure she's i'm like why did i fly all the way to Australia you think to get to just pull out of the tournament no no no just to mess with you right so like all of those things there's only a few people that really understand that and and and there's always a mutual respect but when anyone's like in between a championship trophy you're like no no no you're in the way yeah but I feel like Nadal and Federer have that respect for each other and it's funny because I was at the Tennis Hall of Fame last year when you were inducted and it was incredible that was such a fun evening serena came out to surprise her and everyone just were you surprised i i think there were murmurs that she might come what there was murmurs but we don't lie we didn't know when i might have made that up we did not know she was gonna appear at that moment and to see her come out to be like you are the shit and i'm so honored to be in tennis when you were in tennis was such a beautiful moment I feel like women coming together and uplifting each other is so important once you're done beating each other down yes and respect each other and you you two made each other better that's very true I've said that very often yeah I mean there was a moment like after the ceremony where her and I are like at this little after party that my team hosted and we're like having a margarita and my dad comes over and he's like what he's like I never thought I'd see something like this I was like dad you and me but then you're like this woman knows me more than anyone yeah no it was it was great so much fun and you played ton it you played some doubles oh yeah I played doubles I played I had a moment with Andy Roddick where and beat him down the line and Kim who was also a hero of yours yeah so Kim Kim saw Kim Clijsters.

31:18Shout out to Kim. Incredible. Kimmy. Love her. Kim, the sweetest. She is the sweetest. She saw a stand-up joke I did, which, by the way, very dirty joke. Very dirty. And Kim Clijsters messages me and was like, ha-ha, this is hilarious. She doesn't know that I'm like up. Did you print that and put it on your fridge? It definitely is going to be. Also, the dirtiest joke. But, you know, Europeans, they're a little looser. so she they're fun um like she would get it she's hysterical by the way and then I go by the way huge tennis player I love you and she's like do you want to hit sometime because she's in she's in New Jersey I'll give you her address no don't and I actually was like ha ha like I thought she was fucking with me next week she's like when do you want to hit and I'm like this is insane and then we ended up hitting and I was so nervous and out of shape like you know when you can't get your breath in the beginning like after 10 minutes I started doing that like you remember when you were like tying your shoe over and over again no I don't Hannah you've never been out of I don't remember that well you also wouldn't run to drop shots so I did not run to drop shots wow i like this i like where this is going so anyway hitting with kim it felt like watching picasso paint like have watching someone do what they're so great at so it was just so beautiful to experience that moment for you when was that time you played too long ago too long ago like six months ago i know i know crying I went into a tennis shop like six months ago to string my racket and I gave them my tension and it was like, the thing is I don't even remember what my tension was.

33:17I had to message my sparring partner. You Googled it. You're like, what was Maria Sharpova's racket tension? I messaged my sparring partner, my former sparring partner. I was like, I'm so sorry. I don't know what you're doing. I don't know where you are at the moment. It might be in the middle of the night, but like what was my tension and he's like it's 61 59 and I was like oh you know sir I don't remember who it was and they're like oh that seems like that's a little tight and I was like I write back down I was like was that my tension and he's like yeah I've strung your rack like hundreds of times that is your tension and the guy behind the desk is like I don't think you're gonna like Nobody plays with that tight of a string tension.

34:00And then 10 minutes in, he realizes that I used to play tennis. He should be fired. And he was like, do you work at a tennis pro shop? He's like, wow, I didn't know. I thought someone like you just played really powerfully. And I was like, yeah, no, I mean, I hit the ball pretty hard. And he's like, I just, I did not think that was the correct tension. Anyway, he charged me$59 for a racket. And I was like, how expensive is this sport? I was like, 10 years ago, it was not that expensive. Or I just didn't pay those bills. No, yeah, you had, you were, Nike covered that one. No wonder it's hard to get young players to play.

34:49I can't believe that he was like, Maria Zervova, it's on us. Have some coof. No, you know, they actually charge you more. Yeah, they upcharge you. You've won enough Grand Slams. We can get you.

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