In short
Raoul Pal mixes food/wine commentary with a macro investing thesis: liquidity drives asset prices; the “refinancing cycle” still sets timing; excess liquidity (liquidity growth above GDP growth) should rise, supporting crypto and tech. He also promotes his AI “Raoul” (raoulpal.ai) and his “Everything Code” dashboards/charts on Real Vision, plus book/report plugs.
Guests (and backgrounds)
No external guests. The “guest” is a simulated AI version of Raoul Pal trained on his 35 years of macro work (Real Vision interviews, writings, X feed, wine content). Raoul Pal is the host throughout.
Key claims
Napa wine is overpriced “fruit bombs” for mass markets; markets follow a risk curve tied to liquidity; governments absorbed debt, delaying crypto’s “banana” leg; financial conditions lead ISM; global liquidity is the dominant trend; Bitcoin/Nasdaq relative positioning suggests upside; stablecoins and tokenization expand dollar demand.
Notable examples
Ovid “W11 Spot 4” experimental white wine; “plum jam + vodka” as a cheap Napa Cabernet parody; chart examples include Bitcoin base/W-pattern, Ethereum breakout levels, Tesla wedge/9-13 counts, DXY/yen intervention levels, and gold as a proxy for financial conditions.
Written by AI. May contain mistakes. Listen to the episode to check what was said.
Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOFood and Wine in Napa Valley
2:24 to 4:16
Raoul shares his experiences with food and wine while reflecting on Napa Valley's culinary offerings.
“Napa Valley is probably one of the most civilized places in America.”
Cereal and American Diet Critique
4:16 to 10:00
A humorous look at Captain Crunch and the American diet, emphasizing sugar content and health implications.
“And then there's a list of like 50 different colorants.”
Crunchy Snacks and Wine Pairings
10:00 to 14:00
Raoul discusses various snacks and their pairing with wine, sharing personal anecdotes and culinary preferences.
“So we're going to go, I did a wine tour, put a picture up on X to a vineyard called Ovid.”
Wine Talk and Guest Introduction
14:00 to 15:01
Discussion on wine preferences and introduction of a unique AI version.
“I don't know, a few hundred bottles left.”
Market Insights and Liquidity Discussion
15:01 to 19:25
Analyzing current market conditions and the impact of liquidity cycles.
“he's probably the smartest person I've ever met.”
Promoting 'The Everything Code' Book
19:25 to 19:52
Highlighting the upcoming book and its importance in understanding markets.
Promoting 'The Everything Code' Book
20:27 to 21:05
Highlighting the upcoming book and its importance in understanding markets.
“Just click on your one-click order for a sec, because I want to see a couple of thousand and orders come through so I can pretend I'm really important and I can go to the publishers and say, look how powerful I am.”
AI Development and Real Vision Features
21:24 to 22:23
Discussing AI advancements and features of Real Vision platform.
“Now I'm going to do something again special for you today because I built over the last few months myself, because I'm not only handsome, quite, I'm sorry, from the cheap seats.”
AI Development and Real Vision Features
22:26 to 22:51
Discussing AI advancements and features of Real Vision platform.
“It's probably going to go horribly wrong.”
Economic Trends and Labor Market Analysis
22:51 to 28:00
Exploring economic trends and the impact of demographics on the labor market.
“So anyway, app.realvision.com in a little bit, but let's go to the platform.”
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The Role of Treasuries and Private Lending
28:00 to 29:20
Explore how treasuries and lending influence productivity and the economy.
“So this includes all loans and leases in banks because more lending gets hedged via treasuries.”
Energy, Silicon Chips, and Intelligence
29:20 to 31:36
Learn about the transition to silicon chips and its impact on intelligence output.
“So that's the one to set on your screen.”
Market Dynamics and Financial Conditions
31:36 to 34:12
Understand the relationship between financial conditions and market performance.
“Even though it's built on debt, The output of intelligence keeps increasing and the demand for intelligence is almost infinite or is infinite.”
Liquidity and Its Impact on Crypto
34:12 to 37:00
Discover how liquidity influences cryptocurrency trends and market behavior.
“This is the year on year, don't forget, not outright.”
Excess Liquidity and Crypto Trends
37:00 to 41:33
Examine the effects of excess liquidity on crypto and market cycles.
“important that I've spent more time working on in the last couple of months, which is excess liquidity.”
Chart Analysis: Ccash and Bitcoin
41:33 to 42:00
Analyze the charts of Ccash relative to Bitcoin and discuss investment potential.
“So there's hope for us crypto people as well, even though I invest in anything that I want to.”
Analyzing Ccash and Bitcoin Charts
42:00 to 43:52
Learn about the technical patterns and future predictions for Ccash and Bitcoin.
“okay more alpha let's go through some charts I'm just going to do a run through of whatever the fuck I think I want to look at.”
Ethereum and Market Trends
43:52 to 45:56
Discussion on Ethereum's chart patterns and broader market trends in crypto.
“You know, you get these, they look great.”
Solana and SUI: Opportunities and Risks
45:56 to 48:34
Insight into Solana's potential and the challenges faced by high beta tokens like SUI.
“We're not talking about today, next week, this month, next month, the next year.”
Tesla and Innovative Companies
48:34 to 51:02
Exploring Tesla's stock performance and comparisons to other innovative companies.
“With the 12, we always count to another 13.”
Dollar Trends and Global Impacts
51:02 to 54:50
Discussing the trends in the dollar and the implications for global markets.
“And, you know, I added a bunch to the portfolio when it sold off here on this nine count in DMARC.”
Bonds and Gold Market Analysis
54:50 to 56:00
An overview of the bond market and gold's role as a financial indicator.
“and then they're going to tokenize every stock, and everyone's going to be buying SpaceX.”
Market Analysis and Predictions
56:00 to 57:58
Learn about current market trends and predictions in crypto and stocks.
“it's this rising wedge, which I think will end up failing.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:09I bet you fucking miss me. Welcome to the greatest show in the history of the internet, Drinks with Raoul.
0:15Raoul Pal:Cheers. I've missed this. It's always good fun looking at myself and a camera on a computer screen and getting shitfaced. It's the slightly weirdest experience in the world, but there we go. You're all with me with it. Hopefully you've got a drink. We will be addressing your Philistine behavior yet again. I've been educating you, trying to educate you, and I fail. I just don't know what to do with you lot, but we're going to try. So while I'm enjoying a nice glass of Napa Valley Method Traditionnel rosé sort of champagne-ish, vintage 2022 by Schramsberg. We've had Schramsberg on the show before.
0:56Raoul Pal:Fantastic stuff. Really, really excellent sparkling wine here from Napa Valley. And that's where I'm today, in the stunning Napa Valley. Come to sunny California, they said. The sun always shines in California. Got a fucking open fire going, and it's been cloudy in fog and in rain for the last five days. So they lied to me about that as well.
1:20Raoul Pal:So Napa Valley, obviously what Americans think is the home of great wine. how I think of it is probably the home of the world's most overpriced wine created for people with no taste by people with too much money that's generally Napa Valley in a nutshell but it is absolutely gorgeous and I know one of our our VIP members at Real Vision has earned the state here in Napa Valley so obviously your wine's amazing the rest is swill and it's fucking sweet as well because there's so much alcohol in it I don't know how they do it it's more like port um it's just 15 alcohol and a red wine why anyway that's part of the story so before we get going i need to um have a i guess i'm not very good at these sponsorship readouts but the sponsorship readout from our partner is my book the everything code is now on pre-order by the fucking book Thank you.
2:23Raoul Pal:Anyway, back to the programming. Okay, so Napa Valley. Napa Valley is probably one of the most civilized places in America. If you put your fingers in your ears, don't listen to anybody. It could be Spain. You've actually got a great selection of food and wine here. Even the fucking supermarket here is epic. And it's a local little supermarket, nothing fancy, but it's kind of got all the boutique foods, all of that kind of stuff. I haven't got a lot of boutique foods with me today. I've got some special foods. So one of the things I love doing is cooking. And Blondie and I, you know, will make breakfast.
2:59Raoul Pal:And, you know, I will often do find some great sourdough bread, slice it, toast it, drizzle some extra virgin olive oil, some Molden sea salt, slice some really fresh of those kind of heritage tomatoes. And then drizzle a bit more olive oil, maybe a sprinkle of oregano, maybe some basil leaves over the top. crunchy, delicious, soft, sweet of the tomato. And when Blondie makes breakfast, she brings Captain fucking Crunch. Captain Crunch's Crunch Berries. Yeah, I don't know what to say either. These people have me exasperated. So when we look at the ingredients of Captain Crunch, We look at why Americans are the 47th longest living people in the world, yet are the richest.
3:52Raoul Pal:So here we go. Corn flour, sugar, oat flour, vegetable oil, coconut oil, palm oil, salt, molasses. Do you get the thing, this sugar thing? Americans put fucking sugar in everything. They put sugar in salt. Well, they do, basically, in everything, just to sweeten it up. Sodium, citrate, red, 40, malic acid. And then there's a list of like 50 different colorants. Thiamine, monotrite, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. That's nutrition. Isn't that lovely? Doesn't it make you feel special in the morning? And it comes in all of those colors too. The other thing that we look at is, you know, I am from the civilized continent of Europe where we do things slightly differently.
4:41And so I've talked about this before.
4:45Raoul Pal:Spain makes the best potato chips or crisps in the world. This is one you can buy in the US. You can buy on Amazon. Jose Andres, I think I've featured on the show, also can do these. The entire list of ingredients is potatoes, extra virgin olive oil, and salt. Not too thick, like those fucking kettle crisps, which are revolting. It'll give you a heart attack and not like processed oils like leis. This is just a whole different game. You've got the potatoiness, the clean salt, and the olive oil just gives it a richness. So that's my version of that crunch. You need to have a crunch. When you're having a drink, you need something a bit crunchier.
5:35the Eaton Packet the Eaton Packet
5:42Raoul Pal:of Snack Factory Pretzel Crisps Buffalo Wing Deli Style Rethink Your Pretzel Baked Bold and Spicy so I thought I'd check out a pretzel because a pretzel should be just sort of flour and water and maybe a bit of yeast or something so let's have a look what this one has so enriched flour wheat flour niacin blah blah blah thiamine monotrile ribofloin phlovin can't even pronounce it folic acid sugar it's a salty snack it's got fucking sugar and what's wrong with you people soybean oil salt tapioca malt syrup the fuck is that um malt extract whey monosodium glutamate sodium something something cayenne pepper oh there's a natural ingredient um dextrose modified cornstarch modified one and how many starches do you need in one fucking thing um citric acid dye sodium inosinate disodium guiantate paprika extract canola oil again and soda
6:58potato olive or salt I'm guessing 33 ingredients.
7:06Raoul Pal:This is why you die young. Stop doing it. I feel like Brian Johnson now. Like, I'm great. Like, here's me with a glass of fucking champagne vaping away, right? I haven't done a vape yet. I haven't managed to stop that yet. I'm 58 years old. I'm still vaping. What's the matter with me? Although my mother gave up smoking when she was like 70-something. Actually, when she came to Cayman over COVID, She's now 82, and she stopped vaping last year. So there's hope for me yet. She's strong as an ox, Northern Dutch. Amazing. The other thing I've got is my, I've got a couple of other crunchy snacks to go with my Schramsberg.
7:43We're going to go into a white wine shortly as well.
7:47Raoul Pal:Before we get into all the other stuff, we've got a very special guest coming that I think you're going to love. I really love him. He's probably the best guest, I think, in the world. so I'm really excited to have that and then we've got yeah we've got more wine and then charts and alpha because I know you guys come actually you come for the charts but stay for the insults and you deserve a lot of fucking insults that much I can say so the next snack I've got is the only thing I can thank Mexico for apart from oh tequila tequila's pretty decent but these are I get them in Spain a lot as well these are these large corn nuts that are fried.
8:28Raoul Pal:So very unhealthy. But unlike all Mexican food, Mexican food is basically slob wrapped in a soft slop wrap. And it's literally the least textured food on earth. It's baby food for adults at scale. And so it's the only thing that's crunchy are tacos, which then people cover with sort of vomit and call them nachos. And then it becomes soggy anyway. Or these. And these, as you know, I like a bit of crunch.
9:03World-class crunch. You need that. You've got soft wine in your palate, salty, crunchy snack. Works perfectly. Cheers. So what have you guys got? You guys drinking beer or wine? Okay.
9:20Raoul Pal:Buzz balls. That's what we are today, is it? It's a buzz balls kind of day. I remember when I did the Buzz Bulls tasting. That stuff is fucking toxic. What is wrong with you people? It really is some of the worst thing I've ever had. And I will have it again, obviously, because it's a lot of fun because it's so bad. Finally, my other little snack here today. I've got a selection of cheeses as well, but I'm not that hungry. But Cornichons, fantastic. These are so good. I think I've had them again on the show as well. So these are the French ones, Meilly. and they are what's great is you've got oil from the crisps and the corn nuts or whatever you call them I don't have a Spanish name for them and these give it that vinegary cleanness that cleanses your palate very typical in Spain, France to have that kind of balance of flavours balances your palates out
10:22that's really good
10:23Raoul Pal:I said it before, I think I did it at Blondie's house in Texas, Schramsburg, it's great. So we're going to go, I did a wine tour, put a picture up on X to a vineyard called Ovid. And why I wanted to go to Ovid is because it's not, I went to one of the big commercial ones as well, and it's like, yeah, just put sugar in a bunch of grapes, get the alcohol to 15%, ship it out the door, and charge 100 fucking bucks for it. It's just not good. I know that's really, people don't like that. Although I did go to the French Laundry last Sunday and had a 1973 Imperial Grand Reserva Rioja. That was fucking amazing.
11:06Raoul Pal:My heart bleeds for that stuff. That stuff is like, for me, the greatest wine in the world. It's immortal. You can't kill it. It just lives forever. And it ends up tasting of silken strawberries. and it was still structured and elegant and lovely and it's five years younger than me. So 53 years old, bloody amazing. But I went to one of the other big winemakers. I won't mention them because I've connection to them through random little Cayman. But Ovid is this small, beautiful one with this amazing kind of design aesthetic, half barn, half contemporary architecture, using old techniques like concrete, new techniques like steel.
11:52Raoul Pal:It's just really clever. It's a beautiful place, small, but really high-end wines. And when we sat down, they said, you're going to need to try a white wine. We're like, really? White wine from here? Because the Chardonnay from here tastes like boiled fucking pineapples. Awful stuff. because the weather's too hot. It needs to go up to Russian River or Oregon where it cools down a bit and you get more structure to the white wine. If it's not, it's just a mouthful of sugary syrup. But this was quite interesting. I've never tried this before. So it's from Ovid. It's called W11 Spot 4. It's one of their experimental wines.
12:34Raoul Pal:Every year they do a different experiment, which they label. This is their 11th white from 2003. 24. Now this has got more grapes than I can probably, well, I didn't know half of these grapes. 28.3 % Ribello Gallia, 20 % Spenum Blanc, 18 % Albarino, as you know, Albarino, my heart, my heart goes out, flutters when I hear Albarino. Vormantina, Grenache Blanc, Sauvignon Blanc, Roussin, Vignon, Picapau Blanc. Don't know half of those wines. So they gave it to me. I'm like, oh, God, it's going to be a 15 % white wine. And it's not. It's 13%, 13.5%, and it's really kind of elegant. And I don't know if you can even find it.
13:23Raoul Pal:I'm sure you can. It's such a small vineyard and so boutique-y. And probably it's very expensive. I can't remember because I was actually shit-faced when I left. I had the red wine as well. Red wine for me, I think I told you before, now gives me migraines. So I have to go, I have to take allergy tablets beforehand and kind of fortify myself, milk thistle, anything to stop myself getting a migraine. And instead I got shit-faced and I didn't have a migraine. So the wine was obviously very good. But this is great. It's kind of got a bit of the Sauvignon Blanc smell to it. But it also smells like the wines of Rueda in Spain.
14:01Raoul Pal:It's different.
14:05Raoul Pal:and it's really clean and fresh it's fucking great well well done ovid this is a really good american white wine really different as well i can't really describe it but it's fresh it's clean it's lovely and they didn't give me that i had to pay for it i left with a multiple grand bill i haven't bought red wine i've got so much red wine at home i can't drink it because it gives me migraines unless it gets really old. So I'm just storing most of mine. I don't know, a few hundred bottles left. So I had about 800. I've drunk as many as I can. And then half of them get ruined as well. By the time you ship them through England or France to Cayman, no, to Spain and then to Cayman, yeah, some of them didn't do very well.
14:49Raoul Pal:So I'm going to bring on, because you're probably bored of me by now, and my next guest, well, my special guest, I think is the end to that. Because I honestly think he's probably the smartest person I've ever met. Certainly the most interesting. So let's bring on the guest. The guest is me. So I am launching, I have launched a AI version of me, which is trained on 35 years of kind of my macro thinking. It's got every interview I've ever done on Real Vision, all of the presentation I've ever done. It's got everything I've ever written on Real Vision in Real Vision Pro. It's got my X feed. It's got wine stuff.
15:38Raoul Pal:It's got all sorts of stuff in that. And it's really fucking cool. And it's free to use for everybody, raoulpal.ai. And I think we're going to chat with Raoul because he is literally the most interesting person I've ever met. And I think Blondie would say probably, sorry mate no she didn't actually say um but let's let's call up Raoul and ask him a few questions
16:06okay if you want some help thinking through what's going on in the markets and the economy just tell me what's on your mind and I'll give you my read through the everything code framework if it's anything to do with your portfolio real time then this goes to the real vision brain on Real Vision itself.
16:21Raoul Pal:Raoul, what do you think of Napa Valley wines? And do you think Americans just have unsophisticated palates because they're Philosteins?
16:31Look, Napa makes some of the most expensive, sweetest, highest alcohol fruit bombs on the planet, and they're made for the mass market. There are a handful of genuinely elegant exceptions, O plus one among them, but as a category, it's overpriced sugar with a marketing budget behind it. As for Americans having unsophisticated palates, that's not really how I'd frame it. People everywhere drink what they're sold and what tastes good to them. The issue isn't the palate, it's the marketing and what gets pushed. My honest advice, if you find yourself in Napa, is to walk into any wine shop there and buy something European instead.
17:10It will get far more elegance for half the money. And if you want the full Napa Cabernet experience at home, for about four quid, buy a jar of plum jam from the supermarket and chase it with a shot of vodka.
17:23Raoul Pal:Okay. Okay, that's pretty good. So what do you think about Sutter Home?
17:36Raoul, what do you think about Sutter Home?
17:41I'm afraid I can't answer that one. Sutter Home is Blondie's favourite. You should need the pocket bottles. I would quite like to keep my job.
17:53Raoul Pal:So talking of fruit, whatever happened to my fucking banana zone, you promised me?
18:01Huh. Fair question. I slipped on that banana and landed flat on my face. And I have said so publicly. I thought there was another leg to go and the timing was wrong. What did not break is the mechanism. The refinancing cycle still sets the rhythm, liquidity still drives asset prices, and things still respond in the same order. What changed is that governments turned their debt out. The cycle stretched from four years to roughly 5.4 to 5.8, and the excess liquidity that should have flowed into crypto got hoovered up by the AI trade instead. The banana is still coming, it's just later than I wanted it.
18:39And for where we actually sit in that sequence right now, the dashboards have the live read.
18:44Raoul Pal:So how should I think about asset allocation at this point in the cycle?
18:51Everything sits on a risk curve. And the further out you go, the harder it responds when liquidity shows up. Technology and crypto are right to the far end, which is why they move like a whippet off the leash while everything else ambles along. What's happened lately is that excess liquidity, the bit above what the economy actually needs, hasn't been strong enough to lift everything at once. So what did show up went on the loudest story in the room. That rotates. It always rotates. I don't do allocations. But the risk curve is the thing to understand, and it's all in the everything code.
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19:24Raoul Pal:Okay, final question for you now. How handsome is Raoul?
19:33Very fucking handsome. Thank you.
19:36Raoul Pal:I appreciate you. I'll talk to you later.
19:41good on you we'll talk soon so as you can see it's really accurate it's amazingly put together it has um
19:52Raoul Pal:well look it's pretty fucking cool it's fun so go to relpal.ai it's free go and play around with it it's actually trained on i'm going to plug my book again the everything code the everything Code is that structural thesis about what drives markets, what drives economy, and why it's all happening, why things get more expensive every day, why it's harder and harder to keep up, all of this stuff. That book comes out in November, November 3rd, but the pre-orders are available. I'd be honored if you were to buy my fucking book. So go to amazon.com. In fact, I'm going to wait for you for a sec. Just go to Amazon.
20:28Raoul Pal:Just click on your one-click order for a sec, because I want to see a couple of thousand and orders come through so I can pretend I'm really important and I can go to the publishers and say, look how powerful I am. Everybody just follows everything I say. Anyway, Amazon.com. I'll wait for you.
20:51Go on. Just sit there drinking a fucking beer and eating your Doritos. Order the book.
21:02Raoul Pal:raoul pal r-a-o-u-l pal the everything code one click buy perfect thank you okay so what's next so the everything code is that framework that actually the whole ai is built on it's also the framework of which i look at markets And so as ever, it's time to get into the alpha. Now I'm going to do something again special for you today because I built over the last few months myself, because I'm not only handsome, quite, I'm sorry, from the cheap seats. I'm not only handsome and obviously incredibly intelligent and have fine cultured taste. I'm actually now a expert programmer and developer and I can build anything.
21:50Raoul Pal:In fact, what I do is talk to Claude with my Whisperflow and just ramble at it. And it does things for me. And it built my entire Everything Code dashboard. In Real Vision Alpha, there's the macro investing tool dashboard. And then in Pro, there's a whole other bunch of dashboards. And they're all broken down into tons of stuff. Anyway, you'll see it when you go over to Real Vision. I'm going to be doing, by the way, questions with the Raul AI. The Raul mentor is going to be on Real Vision on the platform. So go to app.realvision.com. It's free. Just go there, sign up, and then you can go and see the questions when the audience on Real Vision, who are the smartest, coolest audience in the world and we'd like to hang out with them, are going to be asking my AI questions.
22:41Raoul Pal:It's probably going to go horribly wrong. It'll probably give awful mistakes. and embarrass me. And then you can take snapshots and put them on the internet to show how terrible either I am or my AI is, or both of us, because we're kind of connected with the same person. So anyway, app.realvision.com in a little bit, but let's go to the platform. So I'm going to try and find which screen I had this on. Okay. So we're going to start with, so these are the everything in code charts. Now, there is hundreds of charts of all of the charts you've ever seen me or Julian Battelle talk about in the past.
23:25Raoul Pal:So global liquidity, excess liquidity, US liquidity, the big picture charts, they're all there and you can play around with all of these. You can zoom them in, zoom them out, change the leads, lags, everything. So they're really cool. It's super powerful. Nothing exists like this anywhere, but it's on Real Vision and it's all part of your subscription. There's even stuff on the free tier as well. The free tier is amazing. You get the trade ideas from the audience, from the community. You get the notes from the community. You've got a whole bunch of dashboards being launched, which looks at not only technical signals and stuff like that, but also scrapes all of the actions within the communities, where the focus is, and finds what looks like the breakout trades, interesting opportunities, that kind of stuff.
24:11Raoul Pal:I've also done it via sectors and all of that stuff. There's portfolios for you to follow. There's a lot there. But anyway, without plugging Real Vision too much, this is the stuff that I managed to build for everybody. But I'm going to go to my charts because I've selected a bunch of charts. So this is the Everything Code in a very quick nutshell. Settle back. Get yourself a drink. I'm just trying to sound what I actually prefer. This white wine is really bloody good. I'm telling you, I don't know how much it is. Blondini idea? I think it was like 100. I think it was expensive. It was not inexpensive, says Blondie, who has a Louis Vuitton habit.
24:47Raoul Pal:So that means it's very expensive. So a quick break in your regular programming. If you're serious about your future, grab my free report called Prepare for 2030. I think you've got five years to make as much money as possible. And this guide will help you navigate what's coming. The link is in the description. Download it now. So, okay, here we go. Firstly, it's all about demographics. Always has been, always will be. And the robots and the AI will be the new demographics. Once you understand that, you basically understand all of economics. Most people don't get it. Everyone's too fucking short term.
25:22Raoul Pal:They're worried about, you know, did I catch the latest move on some piece of shit on Robin Hood? Because some guy on X talked about it for 10 minutes while he got paid in the token and then dumped on you. It's that kind of mess. I just think it's much easier to be longer term. And we'll come on to some of the charts in a bit as well. So labor force participation rate and the births deaths. So the births deaths is what drives how many people are in the workforce, obviously. And because of the baby boomers retiring, the largest cohort that was ever born as a percentage of population, it drives everything.
25:58Raoul Pal:And that drives down the labor force participation rate. And it's going to keep falling all the way here into 2028 or so. We're going to see a collapse in the number of people in the workforce. It's going to make the unemployment data screwy because there's going to be less people in the workforce, but employment will stay relatively okay because these people aren't claiming unemployment because they've retired. Anyway, it also slows down economic growth. And because it slows down economic growth, I say this every time I produce this chart, nobody's ever else produced it, which is, and it's not exactly complicated, but people don't understand how important it is, is the labor force participation rate is what drives debt to GDP.
26:39Raoul Pal:As an aging population slows down the trend rate of growth of GDP, it's papered over by debt. And so we know from this that the labor force participation rate is going to fall a lot. And therefore, debt to GDP is going to rise a lot. And we can see that. There seems to be no way out. The interest payments on the debt keep going up. And that compounds the debt itself. And then it's paid for via liquidity. They create money either at central bank level, money printing, or via the banking channel. They're the only two people who can create money. And this is the total liquidity narrow. So this is basically the Treasury general accounts, the Federal Reserve balance sheet, and in addition is the amount of treasuries held at the banking system.
27:40Raoul Pal:So this is not the total kind of leverage of the system. This is just them absorbing these bonds and then creating credit from them. And you can see very, very highly correlated. And then we get the correlation of total liquidity and interest payments on the debt. Why this happens is I think the answer is because this is broad liquidity. So this includes all loans and leases in banks because more lending gets hedged via treasuries. And so you create a demand by treasuries by increasing lending in the private sector, which is one of Scott Besson's ambitions, Steve Mirren and others, is get the banking sector to take over from the central bank as the main creator of money.
28:24Raoul Pal:And that's what it does. And it just says it keeps going. The other thing we're waiting for is, I've talked about it a lot, Scott Besson has talked about it a lot, Walsh has talked about it a lot, is we're all expecting productivity to pick up very sharply. And productivity is basically, you know, how productive are people in the economy? You know, what output do they produce? So it lags the purchasing managers index, the business cycle. So it should start picking up. It also lags the capex in the AI build out and all of this stuff. So fully expecting productivity to start increasing as CPI share of the economy of nominal GDP starts falling.
29:10Raoul Pal:This is what everybody's waiting for because this is the big one. This is what we got in the late 90s. This allows you to have a benign inflation environment and strong growth. And I think it's coming. So that's the one to set on your screen. The other thing is the CapEx. So CapEx is also lagging the ISM. But CapEx is the thing that's driving this. What we've got is this amazing cycle right now where the pointy end of the stick is, in fact, the entire economy is based around something I call the universal code, which is a whole different thing. But basically everything, not only the economy, but every single observable part of the universe, biology, physics, chemistry, everything is based around output of energy per unit, output of intelligence per unit of energy.
29:58Raoul Pal:And what we see is there's observably in the business cycle now, we have, you can't create energy without silicon chips. So it all starts with that. And what we've gone is to a crazy world now where we're now, we've gone from putting electricity through carbon, humans, all biological life to create intelligence. And we've jumped substrate. We've jumped substrate to put electricity through fucking sand. So silicon is the new substrate. Silicon doesn't parallel process as fast as yet as carbon, but it's a million times faster. So this is the machine world we're moving into. So silicon comes first.
30:48Raoul Pal:The chips get exported. They arrive in the US. They start training models. We start to see the increased intelligence. You can't ramp out that intelligence until the data centers are built. You've got massive capex to do. You have to do the energy component, the solar, the gas, all of this stuff. And then what happens is the output is an acceleration of intelligence. And we've seen that. The money that was spent three years ago, two years ago, is now producing Fable 5.1 and today Chad GPT-6 or whatever the fuck it's called, which seems pretty wild. And that is the dominoes that the output of intelligence keeps increasing per unit of debt even.
31:36Raoul Pal:Even though it's built on debt, The output of intelligence keeps increasing and the demand for intelligence is almost infinite or is infinite. Anyway, that's a whole different topic. Speculative positioning right now markets is flat. Maybe it's long. Markets look like they absolutely want to rip. And we'll go through some of these charts. And I'm flipping around because they landed in random order. ISM versus financial conditions. Financial conditions leads everything. It is the daddy. And why is it the daddy? Because it's rates and the dollar. and the dollar is the big one here. So rates and the dollar here, this is three-month rates and the dollar is financial conditions.
32:13Raoul Pal:It leads ISM. It leads it by nine months. And it tells us that ISM, you know, we had that, this month was down a bit, should go up a bit. And then it'll probably trade sideways a little bit into the first quarter or two of 2027 post midterm elections. That's the hangover you usually get from midterm elections. But like the 90s, I don't expect a business cycle. I don't expect financial conditions to tighten dramatically. I think it's ongoing because of the biggest CapEx build-out in all history has to be financed, along with the government has to be financed. So they have to let the monetary spigots continue to flow.
32:53Raoul Pal:And they haven't been flowing enough yet. And I'll come into that in a sec. There's also, we've had some monetary tightening from financial conditions. and I break it down by the four component parts. So you've got front end easing, long end. The long end here has been squeezing. The front end has been fine. The dollar's been easing and the oil has been squeezing. So of the four legs, only two are firing to say, yeah, there's tightening going on. So that means you get wobbly markets probably Q1 next year that don't feel so great. Now, there's no precision to this. You can't really tell because leads lag shift around.
33:35Raoul Pal:But basically, it's telling you it's not a serious tightening of financial conditions. So things should carry on as normal. Financial conditions matter because here's the financial conditions versus the Nasdaq. And you can see, while they're not a perfect fit, they're directionally the same. So financial conditions have been trading sideways for a while now because of the Iran War. And what we had is crypto trading sideways. Now, my guess is financial conditions are about to loosen because I think the dollar is about to weaken dramatically and rates will come lower, which is out of consensus. And this will mean that that black line hooks up and that gives NASDAQ the chance to stop moving.
34:12Raoul Pal:This is the year on year, don't forget, not outright. Total liquidity itself in the US has flatlined for a little bit as well, which is why many markets did, NASDAQ included. Year on year, you can see it's kind of been not very strong. You know, if I go back in time, you know, generally speaking, you've had much higher rates of broad liquidity. So that's credit growth plus central bank balance sheet. So we've got plenty of room to move. I would expect it to get to 11 % or so. But let's see. But that's what Walsh and Besson are telling you. Narrow liquidity, this is just the bonds held at the banks plus the central bank and treasury side not really moving around.
35:00Raoul Pal:Year-on-year rate of change, about zero. But here's where it gets interesting. They are correlated. Again, nothing is perfect. Don't expect perfection to play out. Just expect that over time, the correlation holds. Here we've got a 90-day lead lag between total liquidity and NASDAQ. it kind of suggests that NASDAQ can go higher. And I think that's right. It feels like many have corrected, been sideways, got a bit bored for a while, and people's eyes off this stuff. I think it goes up. But I actually don't think it goes up as much as crypto. I've been on technology from December 2022. It's been a fucking stunning performer.
35:44Raoul Pal:And I still think it goes higher. there's um bitcoin versus sorry now i'm rude um crunching oh i go but they're so good
35:56so you're still according to narrow you'll get used to this terminology it's work that i've
36:01Raoul Pal:done recently to start to understand why things like global m2 drifted um why many of the measures before drifting is because everything is very bayesian and there's leads lags that shift There's influences that shift. And one of the reasons being, as we said before, is there's kind of not enough liquidity growth. Where are we? We lost the chart now. There's not enough liquidity growth for both the, what's this one, the broad liquidity. It's just not enough growth really to finance AI investments, both in the stock market itself and in the private sector and the debt, because that's huge. And we need more liquidity to do that.
36:52Raoul Pal:And that's why we've seen these kind of lags and stuff that's not really acting as we think they should do. And the answer here is something important that I've spent more time working on in the last couple of months, which is excess liquidity. Excess liquidity is liquidity growth in excess of GDP growth. So that would be there's new liquidity that is not required for generalized GDP and it ends up going to speculative investments. And the correlation is pretty decent here. And this is excess liquidity based on those two narrow and broad. So we've created a Z score or Z score between the two, put it against Bitcoin.
37:35Raoul Pal:it's starting to rise. As I said, I think that liquidity growth is going to start to exceed GDP growth, and that creates the right conditions for markets to rally. Let's see how well it's stood up in the past. These charts get a bit screwy, obviously, because of Bitcoin's scaling. Let's see if we can... It's not very...
38:06Raoul Pal:I mean, generally speaking, there are correlations, it falls apart. But when you're seeing, I really need more of a year-on-year rate of change to show this as clearly. But basically, when excess liquidity is rising, crypto rises. When excess liquidity is falling, generally crypto falls. That makes sense. The trend itself is global liquidity is such the most beautiful trend. This is the everything code in a fucking chart. is like, and as Lynn Alden would say, nothing stops this train. Nothing stops the debasement of currency. And it goes between 6 % and 12 % a year, depending where we are. It's currently at 5.7%, but it moves around.
38:53Raoul Pal:And we're currently still a bit low. So let's zoom in. Don't you love how well I've built these charts? I'm incredibly talented. I just want you to know that. See, we're still almost one standard deviation below trend. And we've been for a while. But over time, you get these whole periods where you go from below trend to above trend, and that's the cycle peak. And that's what we're waiting for, is to see the move from below trend to two standard deviations, which it almost got to there. and then it gets somewhere up into the one standard deviation or so, and that's usually where it stops. We're nowhere near that.
39:37Raoul Pal:And we've got so much debt to roll that it's going to keep going. Another version of the same idea, here's the year-on-year, narrow liquidity versus Bitcoin, hugely correlated. Narrow liquidity has been flat. It needs to go up. And what does that mean? That means the ESLR rulings allow the banks to own more treasuries. But the banks haven't bought that many new treasuries. And the reason being is because they've got constraints because the yield curve is too flat. The yield curve needs to steepen. Now, what we don't want is a bearish steepening. So we don't want the long end blowing up. So Scott, best of all, let's try to peg the long end, get the Japanese and Chinese and South Koreans and everybody to buy it.
40:22Raoul Pal:And we'll come on to the charts on that in a sec. And then we've got Walsh going to use pretend he's really hawkish and then knowing that the data is going to weaken and the inflation data is going to weaken, productivity data is going to pick up, and he'll find an excuse not to raise. I don't think he hikes. Bitcoin and its trend because it's related to global liquidity. NASDAQ. So Bitcoin's interesting, right? So Bitcoin is one standard deviation over sold. it got to one and a half or so so it's pretty oversold only gets there very occasionally let's see if we go back um it only gets there very occasionally so it was pretty oversold at that point now when you look at the nasdaq the nasdaq has been over one standard deviation overbought for a long time obviously because there's the ai boom going on but on a relative basis, and I haven't got the chart here, NASDAQ versus, I'm sorry, Bitcoin versus NASDAQ is a super interesting chart because it too is in a log trend because Bitcoin outperforms over time.
41:27Raoul Pal:It got to two standard deviations oversold and it suggests to me that that gap will close. So there's hope for us crypto people as well, even though I invest in anything that I want to. um crypto's one of those passions so that's that fuck I've already run 42 minutes we've not even got to the platform I'm hopeless what am I drinking I've lost track already it's okay I've just got random glasses
42:02okay
42:03Raoul Pal:more alpha let's go through some charts I'm just going to do a run through of whatever the fuck I think I want to look at.
42:14Raoul Pal:Probably the best chart in the world, so I'm probably jinxing it now, is Ccash. I mean, what a gorgeous chart, right? It's a really easy narrative as well. Super easy narrative because all you have to say is, oh, well, it should be about 10 % of Bitcoin is used for privacy money and we don't have enough privacy in this world and that's fine. Makes perfect sense. I own some of this. I think it does well. Let's actually have a look at the longer term charts.
42:53Raoul Pal:Okay.
42:57So what we did is form this kind of lovely sort of W base pattern here
43:03Raoul Pal:and we're breaking high. I mean, I just don't see how this does not go a long way. obviously on log charts you don't get the magnitude of the move so let's change it from the log chart just in case it looks any different
43:19even then
43:20Raoul Pal:I mean just I mean this is a good looking base chart now could you have a spike up back down yet of course nobody knows how it's going to play out but I actually really like this Bitcoin itself let's just go back to weekly. We kind of got this. I'd love to clear this area. And then what's this? This is the AB 2000 level. And then I think it looks good, but let's wait and see. Cause we, you know, you can see these fucking sideways chop fests. You know, you get these, they look great. And then they fall later. So let's just wait and see. My liquidity work, the workers I look at suggests that the base is in and it goes higher, and that'll be the end of the four-year cycle narrative and everything else.
44:11So that'll be that. Ethereum is, I mean, just the most gorgeous chart I've ever seen.
44:26We need to clear this level, this 2.5 grand level.
44:30Raoul Pal:it's always done a lot of chopping around two and a half grand ups and downs and ups and downs breaks that and obviously goes to the top of the range the five grand level and then when this wedge goes you know we saw what wedges look like wedges look like that let's do the weekly Zcash when wedges go there's a wedge going there's a wedge going when they go they really go it's kind of stored power and the stored power here is enormous. So I still really like this. I know everyone's like, oh, fucking hell, it's been so shit, crypto. I'm like, really? Again, because everyone's time horizons are so goddamn short.
45:13Raoul Pal:And what's bizarre is the shortest time horizon, people, are the 20-something-year-olds. Show me the money now. I'm like, Jesus Christ, you've got the best set of opportunities the world's ever given you and you want it immediately and you've got it all. it's all in front of you so it's amazing I just cannot understand the short termism of people given a macro opportunity set but that's you know that's why us macro old dogs tend to do quite well over time Solana interesting chart as well because this really to me you know if I just look at the monthly chart it just feels like it's a big fucking cup and handle This is right.
45:59Raoul Pal:This is La-La-Ville. Again, this is a monthly chart. We're not talking about today, next week, this month, next month, the next year. But we're talking about the overall structural signature pattern of the markets. And they're very good. I mean, they're very, very good. I see nothing that is negative in a longer-term basis. Short-term, is it overbought? Is it oversold? No, no. let's use, I love DeMarc indicators. You should all get them. They're fantastic. On TradingView, Tom DeMarc's a friend of mine. I mean, everybody from Stevie Cohen to John Burbank to Stan Druckenmiller to Paul Trudeau, everybody uses DeMarc indicators and most people, retail people don't.
46:41Raoul Pal:They're fantastic. And just ask your AI to tell you how it works. But, and it's not very expensive either. On Bloomberg, they're bloody expensive. I paid for them for 25 years. I just think, yeah, we've got the power to go higher here. Another one, because I know a bunch of you hate me because you're in SUI and you think it's the worst piece of shit ever. It's gone down 80%. And I keep saying I don't care because it's a high beta token. And that's what happens when the market goes down. The liquidity is not strong enough. And you're all like, you're a piece of shit scammer. And I'm like, really?
47:18Raoul Pal:Here we go again. Why don't you go and buy your fucking cat token again and lose money and then get your money, your wallet rugged because you clicked on something. Just, you don't need to do any of that. I like it. I like Sweet. Yeah, I'm on the foundation. I like it. I think the technology is the best that exists in the crypto space, fastest, cheapest, but also what they're building with it is amazing. Forget that. The chart is the truth. Chart went down a lot, as we know. I think we're forming a sort of weird it'd look better if I do it the other way around this weird head and shoulders you can't see it from here see if I can invert yeah invert scale it's this pattern if we were to break here whatever that is 93 I mean this would take me all the way down to 260 or so I'll invert it
48:21Raoul Pal:but overall this is what i think it's forming so it's earlier cycle so it hasn't got the structural log trend yet but what we've got is what i think is the basis of a large sort of wedge pattern forming over time so break here we get to the top we probably pull back and then we go and all the charts show me the same thing is the long-term pattern looks great right that's enough crypto let's do a bit of other stuff i mean another fucking killer chart and it's so unfashionable but it's tesla i mean it's just it's just one of the best technical charts the world has ever produced it produces amazing i mean i didn't show you actually with uh with um sweet produced a monthly weekly and daily nines and 13 patterns But here we go with the 9 of the 13 in Tesla.
49:17Raoul Pal:With the 12, we always count to another 13. This wedge pattern, they're all the same. And Tesla's very driven by liquidity, obviously, because it's not only a car company, everything else. Even Circle looks amazing. I mean, there's so many good charts out there. And this whole pause that we've been in for a while is really good. I mean, look at that. Really? What else do you need? I mean, Scott Best and the Treasury Secretary of the United States is telling you one of their primary ambition is to massively grow the stablecoin market because it buys the government debt and dollarizes the world.
49:50Raoul Pal:And you don't own Circle. I mean, I don't fucking get it. Oh, because it went down a bit recently and I lost some money and I think you're a scammer and everybody is shit. So yeah, look, it went down. Actually, let's do it. Oh, Circle's shit because it went down 85%. Went down 85 % shit chart. Come back to me in three years' time when it's up here somewhere, and we'll talk again. SpaceX. Killer chart.
50:28Raoul Pal:Yeah, but what about all of the people who are along the stock who are going to dump on me? Everybody dumps on me. It's the greatest fucking company the world has ever produced. This has the highest chance of any company ever of repeating the British East India Company and the Dutch East India Company. This thing is basically going to be a fucking sovereign state and you're worried about what it did because some VC is going to dump on me. It's like the narrative in this space is so stupid, it's embarrassing. What else is interesting here? I mean, Robin Hood. I mean, Vlad doesn't fucking stop. That guy's a goddamn machine.
51:10I mean, it really is.
51:14Raoul Pal:The guy's a machine. Look at this. And, you know, I added a bunch to the portfolio when it sold off here on this nine count in DMARC. It's starting to rocket up again. I mean, this thing is producing a nice log trend channel looking really good. What else have we got here? Interesting stuff. Oh, yeah. This is the killer chart of the day. Let's go to the daily chart. Dolly-yen, the big daddy, also known as the house of pain. Anybody who ever traded Dolly-yen in macro lost their fucking shirt. This chart looks to me like, A, obviously we had intervention, U.S. intervention, intervention. If they break this, and the Japanese are really good with charts, and trust me, the central bank uses them because I've lived it and experienced it firsthand and they've even talked about it.
52:10Raoul Pal:If between them and Besant, they can break this trend line at 155, and it's probably coming down to 140 or so, and that creates the demand for bonds and everything else. What Besant is trying to do here, along with the central bank, let's get rid of the log chart, is, let's get rid of the D mark here. I mean, look at that. One, two, three, four, five, six. Daily 13s. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven. I mean, that's the largest number of top counts I've ever seen. This was pretty similar, but these are almost all at the same level. Unreal. So let's look at the long-term chart here. Now, my view on this, and people who read Global Macro Investor can account for this, back here I said this thing is going to 200 plus because of the inverted head and shoulders.
53:11Raoul Pal:So far it's done well, but 9.13, they really want it lower. They want the dollar lower and the yen higher, and they will. Those of you, because I can see everybody's traveling to Japan right now because it's so cheap. It never used to be. It used to be the most expensive country in the world because it's so high quality. Anyway, so that leads us to the big daddy, the DXY. DXY, over time, we're in the dollar uptrend. This is a dollar-debted world. The dollar is going up. Anybody who tells you the dollar is going to collapse since the end of the world order is smoking crack or stupid. But if we just go to the Daily Sharp, I mean, this is a...
53:53Raoul Pal:Sorry, I'm fucking around with the charts always. I do apologise. But I don't know what I'm doing. But here we go. A, B, C correction. Five ways down. A, B, C, breaking lower. And as we break lower, it should start to accelerate down to where I think it's going, which is...
54:21Raoul Pal:somewhere down here. And it'll still be part of the uptrend of the dollar. But you can see the 9s and the 13s stacking up here, telling us it's not going to last much longer. So it comes back down to here, and then we have the next leg higher because the dollar over time is trending higher. And it's trending higher for a very simple fact is 50 % of the world debt is in dollars. The US is going to introduce stable coins to every single fucking corner of the planet, and there's going to be more buyers of dollars. and then they're going to tokenize every stock, and everyone's going to be buying SpaceX.
54:56Why would you invest in a local market,
54:58Raoul Pal:you know, Nigerian brewing company, which have been great bets in the past, versus SpaceX, because it's tokenized, and you've got some crypto because you've got stable coins. So that's where the world is going. I'm trying to think, bonds. Let's look at bonds quickly.
55:19so let's look at the uh by the way to actually i didn't even know that
55:25Raoul Pal:so the two years point 213s on a monthly chart and they're two months away from a nine as well generally speaking i'd expect to move down to kind of two percent And my longer-term view is that, based on the deflationary aspects of AI, robotics, and everything else, and the aging population, inflation has no chance. I just don't get the fear of it. So right now, we're nudging up against the risk limit of the nine at the top of this range. I think it's an ABC. Let's see. And if we look at the daily... it's this rising wedge, which I think will end up failing. We're already getting top patterns. I think it breaks the bottom of the wedge.
56:14Raoul Pal:I honestly do. We'll wait and see. 10-year bonds just for everybody there. How I look at 10-year bonds is I think there's a range of which everyone goes, oh my God, they're breaking out. But this is the range that every time it gets into, Scotty Boy sorts it out. And he's doing it now. And there's the weekly nine. final one because I know a bunch of you look at it gold looks fine it broke out from the wedge corrected a bit let's have a look at it on the short of the same time horizon and gold is basically real time financial conditions if you want to know what Ronald's financial conditions are you can look at gold because right now they're very highly correlated tells you I think that this once this level goes here this kind of inverse head and shouldery pattern then gold goes up again because dollars are going to fall, rates are going to fall.
57:07Raoul Pal:And that's why dollar falling, rates falling, financial conditions moving, the central bank having to continue to finance the interest payments via the issuance of money by the banking system or themselves is the everything code to offset the aging population. I don't think there's a full cycle. I don't think what we've gone through in crypto is a cycle. It can't be because it wasn't a liquidity cycle. It was a dampening of liquidity whilst there's a massive bull market in something else. I just think it continues over time. And I don't sweat the small time horizons. If you do, you're fucking up the biggest opportunity you've ever had.
57:48Raoul Pal:All you've had to do, and I said this when I started the whole idea with the exponential age, I'm like, it's two bets to have. In fact, the everything code. The everything code was two things. Own Nasdaq, own crypto, go to the beach. and still the Bitcoin has outperformed the NASDAQ from the low, and it will do over time. But because your time horizons are too short, you're going to fuck this up. Okay, that's all the output I'm going to give you fuckers because you're free and you haven't come over to Real Vision. So there's a couple of things. Raoulpal.ai. Go and talk to me because you need your help.
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59:04Raoul Pal:You can even, once you kind of put in your email into the bot, you can even upload charts like Dolly Yen and say, what do you think about it? And my AI will tell you about it. You can upload PDFs of other people's work and say, what do you think about this from your framework? It'll do all of that. You can use it as your mentor. That's why it's called an AI mentor on the Real Vision platform. it's there for you to help you but it won't give you what presents your portfolio but over in real vision there's the the rv brain and that's trained on real-time information and almost everything that happens on the real vision platform and it's really powerful for that kind of stuff now again it's not financial advice but it's going to help you a lot so the ral mentor is supposed to be your investing mentor not your financial advisor the rv brain gives you more granular detail to help that.
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Timestamps:
00:00 - Drinks With Raoul: Napa Valley Edition
02:18 - The Everything Code Is Coming
15:14 - Meet Raoul Pal AI
18:02 - What Happened to the Banana Zone?
21:09 - The Everything Code Framework
24:51 - Demographics, Debt, and the Liquidity Machine
28:09 - Why AI Could Trigger a Productivity Boom
31:39 - Financial Conditions and the 2027 Business Cycle
33:40 - Why Raoul Expects the Dollar and Rates to Fall
36:44 - Excess Liquidity: The Key Signal for Bitcoin
39:26 - Why Bitcoin Could Be Ready to Catch Up
42:00 - Bitcoin, Ethereum, Solana, and Zcash
46:32 - Raoul’s Sui Thesis
48:30 - Tesla, Circle, SpaceX, and Robinhood
51:26 - The Yen, Dollar, Bonds, and Gold
57:16 - Why Raoul Thinks the Crypto Cycle Isn’t Over
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