CLASSIC CLIPS: Gary Oldman On What Modern Football Took Away from Manchester United & Critiquing THAT Rooney Advert

0:00This podcast is part of the Acast Creator Network. what's the pinnacle for you like what's the what's the out of all your achievements i mean the oscar must be in that role with church yeah it's it's it's up there i mean it's a thing that well you see it's not in you're not conscious of it you don't do it you don't say oh i'm gonna to play this part because I'll have the opportunity to win the Oscar it's the last thing you're thinking of yet with football you've got the manager going we're going to win the fucking cup you know that's your main goal that's what you're heading to the acting you're doing it and you're not doing it for prizes in that sense and that is a lovely, that's icing on the cake.

1:06You know, at the end of the film I've worked just as hard on other movies and some of them are, you know, they sort of disappear into obscurity. You know, you're just in it for the work but I think with a football player, it's a different thing because the manager wants that. He wants the double, the triple. He's pushing you all the time in that respect. How much football do you watch, Gary? You're a Manchester United fan, right? Yeah, I'm a Man United fan. They're doing me. How's it going?

1:53dear lord it's a it's a shaky start to the season um Brentford was well we had a few people out yeah so um but yeah then it's a bit a bit dodge what made what made you be a main note of fame because you was born in South London right I was born in South London some people say that a real cockney is born within the sound of Bowbells. I was born within the sound of Millwall supporters. And the, and the, and Coal Blow Lane was where I lived in New Crossgate was literally a three minute walk. Now in the height of the Millwall hooligan days, they would come obviously past our front room window and into the garden and through the garden um and the police horses and all the you know because it all my street all funneled into the cobble lane so as a as they were they were i mean a local team they were at the end of the street and you could see the floodlights and hear the crowd from the back from the back garden almost as if you were there in the stadium.

3:18I mean, it was that loud. So about seven or eight, I started to sort of get into football. And then at the time I was 10, I was really now very, very keen on it, you know. and i saw uh man united the european benfica game in in 68 and was just mesmerized by the team and george best who's my hero who um so i i Millwall was the sort of local team and occasionally I would go to see matches there but I tried to see United whenever they came south so I'd see them you know as Tottenham, Arsenal, West Ham you know when they came south so I couldn't always get to Old Trafford back then but um so i just sort of and was as a kid when you're 10 you're dazzled by the red devils the kit georgie best bobby charlton you know you uh but i sort of miss um like we've got we've we've let a lot of people go and there's some new players that have come in, which is great.

5:04But what I think is sad for me is just my own personal taste. When in the 70s, 70s, 80s, when I was watching football and supported that great team, it was your first 11 now i know why people can't play the first 11 in a game that has become more physical and faster and that you just wear your body out you would you'd you'd kind of a little kind of what happened to rooney a bit i think he just he played every game yeah he lost it It wore him out. So I get that. But when you watch the first 11 every week, there was a relationship, a sort of communion that the crowd, the fans had with the team. You look at, I mean, off the top of my head, um uh gigsy 23 years at man united gary neville 20 years at man united george best 11 years at man united bobby charlton his entire senior career at man united every week you went back you knew the team and you had a relate you felt that you had a relationship with the team and i find now i'm away from the for for a while because of my work and i come back and i'd like turn the tv and i'm watching a game and i'm going who the fuck's that i go oh oh he's a transfer oh he's where's um where's garnacci up and you and that's the thing what 2020 i don't know probably old Trafford, I saw his debut.

7:14Dazzling. 17-year-old. I think it ended up being 1-1 or something. That was 2022. 2025, he's gone already. Yeah. Yeah. I don't, so I, and I don't know how that, you could best tell me as a player, isn't there a sort of familiarity that you have when you've got your, when you have your regular guys around you? Isn't there a sort of telepathy that you start to, there's a connection within the team without, and now it's someone plays 10 minutes, they take him off, they bring someone else on. He plays 20 minutes, they take him off, they bring. I don't know how the game to me is, I love the Premier League.

8:14It's thrilling, but I do miss, I do sort of, you're not old enough to be in the old days. We're all about football nostalgia on this podcast. Yeah, we are about nostalgia. And you are good at Manchester United. I mean, you had it so good for so long and it's very rare to have, you know, those players like the Nevels, Keane, Rio, they'd stayed there for 10 years. Beckham, Scholes, they've come through, Nicky Butt, they've come through the system and stayed there their whole career. And is that, is that, I mean, we're talking, the earlier team that I was just talking about, Alex Jennings, Nobby Stiles, Bobby Charlton.

9:01Yeah. They were under Matt Busby. The team, the Cantonares, the Beckhams, the Giggsies, yeah, and Neville were under Fergie. Is it, I would imagine that's vital, isn't it? Yeah. Yeah. I think, I don't think the manager's knocked down. I don't think the players stay as long, do they? But he's one of the greatest managers of all time. If they asked you to play him in a biopic of his life, would you do that? Play who? Sir Alex Ferguson. Well, I don't know what you're going to say, actually. I don't think I'm kidding.

9:57Do you know what really gives me, do you know what makes me chuckle?

10:05is I text him sometimes and he texts back and I have to pinch myself. I go, he's arguably the greatest manager in the game, you know. Yeah. And, oh, hi, Gary, how are you? I'm going, are you texting? I'm texting with fucking unexpressed. and he says love to the wife fantastic what will you be texting would it be football related or is it just just I wanted to come at one point he wanted to come and see he wanted to come to the set to watch us filming and slow horses yeah wow and absolutely and anyway it didn't it didn't work out so it's it would be stuff like you know well sorry it didn't work out maybe next time you know hope you're well but God can you imagine Sir Alex Ferguson on Slow Horses that would have been a nice cameo nice little cameo no we're still oh never say never oh God Gary please I I would love like a Hitchcock moment you know even if he's just in a cafe or he walks by and the audience go is that yeah no it couldn't have been couldn't have been but see I think I think it'd play a role quite understated quite well there have been previous examples of Man United players trying to do acting for adverts and things where I don't know what you I don't know if you want we'll try and get it out now Gary if you don't mind if you wouldn't mind critiquing the Man United team's acting skills I said Have you heard the rumour?

12:01What rumour, George?

12:08Guys, we have a problem. The boss said that the new devil is arriving. Is he well known? Fate was far off the world.

12:23And what did he say about him? They say he is a legend.

12:42Thoughts, Gary?

12:49I'm a bit gobsmacked. what was that even for a drink yes red wine I believe did you know Rooney had that in the locker

13:03I thought Giggs was just as good who are you giving the Oscar to there which one I thought Everett's performance wasn't bad I thought the groundsman at the start was terrific no the groundsman were pretty good I'd have to give that to Giggs, see? Giggs. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I'd never seen that. No. No. I don't ever want to see it again.

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