Peter Crouch's James Bond Casting, Ronaldo's Retirement & The Football vs. Family Debate! | EP. 432

0:00Chris Stark: Hello and welcome to that Peter Crouch podcast brought to you by Party Power. I'm joined by Chris.

0:08Chris Stark: Well, I don't even know where to start because you've shown me something.

0:15Tom Fordyce: Let's go straight into it.

0:16Chris Stark: We're going to show you because I, you know, I've just blown my mind, Chris. I've shown you the first few seconds. I've only seen the first few seconds. We've suddenly decided actually maybe we should get your reaction. I just didn't see it coming though. I suppose another one

0:33Your ex-manager Sean Dyche is doing adverts for Durex Yes

0:38Chris Stark: I didn't see that coming number one but this this is But like there's quite a few different ones and anyway I just I saw one on the way in I just wanted to get your reaction Okay Cheers I know you've only ever seen him in a professional sense but some of this stuff is maybe quite interesting you might not have known it yourself Well I've got to be honest you know like the reverse cowgirl sideways I always think, you now have to build a culture that represents going hard or go home. If you get beyond the semi, you're going to be in good shape. You know, just poking in the goal. You don't always have to be brilliant.

1:11Chris Stark: You don't have to smash everything. There's lots of hard things about Tandle. You know, it throws at you many different things. That's our jobs. Me and Steve, you get him in that mind readiness. And the only one who can do that is to pull together, make sure we're looking after each other, covering each other's back. What a brilliant club. Thanks, Sean. Cheers, mate.

1:34Tom Fordyce: Okay, so just to clarify this, Sean Dyche has obviously signed up for a Durex campaign or an ad or... Wow.

1:49Tom Fordyce: I thought something might be outtakes, but that's actually made the cut. That's gone out. That's made the cut. Yeah, yeah, yeah. does it take you back to the dressing room

2:02oh

2:03Chris Stark: I've seen some mad things this week you've been everywhere oh Sid you've been on the screen been on our screens yeah what are you working on this week before we get to the main topic

2:13Tom Fordyce: I was I was on everything this week I was on what did I do two podcasts done Sky done Europa for TNT done the FA Cup for TNT it was with Serge on with Roman Kemp he sent his regards as well

2:29Chris Stark: love the fact that you saw the you were talking about the when we were at the party it was Ab's 40th wasn't it Ab's no we weren't 40th 30th sorry

2:38Tom Fordyce: yeah he brought it up yeah he mentioned it that was where obviously

2:44Chris Stark: the Notorious SID was born that's where it formed yeah and Sid was talking about obviously that great moment when Sid was rapping for him and Serge was genuinely and he'd blown away by it. He was.

2:54Tom Fordyce: Yeah, he kind of brought it up. We've mentioned it a few times, haven't we? And he was, he was one that brought it up on Sky and he was getting right into it. He was like, yeah, man, I walked in the room and the circle was there and he said he was just, you know, the shoulders were going, he's bopping like, and I was just sitting there because it's amazing when you see someone like him, he's thatcher that's in the music industry and he's talking like that, I'm like, I actually,

3:14Chris Stark: I'm actually kind of interested

3:16Tom Fordyce: in there a little bit. So, but he was in good, he was in good form. He was in good form. He's got a busy December coming up, lads. And there was one day, there was one day that really struck a chord with me. And he's doing a big arena tour in December. Friday the 18th of December. O2 Arena. Now, so this coincides with Paddy Power and the darts on the 18th.

3:43Chris Stark: So there's a potential for this podcast as a team environment to do the darts, afternoon session, then plough on to the O2 Xavier. You guys have been amazing because I missed out last year because of my job. I've got to be up first thing in the morning. When you did the darts last year, I've never had that thing of missing out. I would argue more than the World Cup, actually. It was unbelievable what I woke up to the next day. It was everywhere, wasn't it? It was everywhere. I think it's viral. It was, yeah. It was unbelievable. I mean, to do that again. On tables and everything, like on the tables, like it was, it was brilliant.

4:27One of the greatest things I've ever seen. It could be the best day ever, no? So you lads were like, well, this year we'll try to do it so that, so I could do the radio show and then we'll get out and then not have to be at the radio the next day so I can cut loose. Yeah. But now you're, you're proposing, not only would we maybe do the darts if we can get tickets on the 18th, we'd also go kick on to,

4:47Chris Stark: I just think as days kind of go, you know, for a Christmas party for this podcast, I don't think anything would, kind of, what this podcast is about is darts and Kasabian, I would suggest, for an afternoon and evening. I mean,

5:07Tom Fordyce: the three of them combined, our podcast, Kasabian and the darts. I mean, I just think, I just don't think, wants to say it. It was a it was a

5:19Chris Stark: it was a hockey stick bang moment there isn't it? It was a hockey stick bang. It was. I don't think anyone I don't think any consortium out there is doing this kind of stuff honestly and looking after the people that work so hard on this podcast. That's a Christmas party. I just think you know no consortiums are doing that. No. You just know like the overlap all of them will be looking on they'll be there in their little Christmas hats. I'm sure they'll have a nice Christmas party. It'll be a nice dinner. It'll be a proper nice dinner. Each podcast, you can sort of imagine what they'll do. They'll have a lovely dinner sort of thing.

5:53One too many red wines, maybe, but it'll be...

5:56Chris Stark: And then the next day, they'll all go into work and pretend they've got a hangover and say, you know, oh, that was a crazy one last night. Yeah.

6:04Tom Fordyce: Ooh.

6:08Chris Stark: I saw you up dancing.

6:14Tom Fordyce: I see you sneak off just before midnight. Well, look, you might need to call in some favours there, mate. Well, listen. It could be the...

6:22Chris Stark: Paddy Power, I've been associated to this podcast for a long time. They're obviously big into the darts. We do, we've got a few friends who actually are involved with the darts. Yes. I'd like to think that we know Kasabian, certainly Serge, and the boys very, very well. So hopefully, we can pull some strings and make that happen. You have had a busy week though, mate, haven't you? I mean, I could tell. The new Maya Jammer, that's what they're saying. No. No, I had a busy week.

6:47Tom Fordyce: But you've got to do it. It's brought up to Christmas. And I think our table here on a Monday represents our weekend. It's pathetic. Three of the buggers on the table.

6:58Chris Stark: We've gone for the waters. Three of the buggers on the table. There's two reasons for that. We've had a slight issue with the Chumbawamba. I don't know whether they've been frozen. The taps have been frozen overnight, unfortunately. and there's no alcohol being served. But we were also very quick to jump towards the waters, I felt this morning. You had a lively one, Chris? It was very lively this weekend, yeah. Good fun. I was around your neck of the woods, actually. A couple of the bars were in your places. It was good. Enjoyable. Same with me, actually. I've got to mention Animal Rescue Algarve.

7:34Chris Stark: So you're the ambassador. I am an ambassador, yes. I mean, it was more kind of, you know, and Abbey was very much involved with it. Yeah. And on the back of that, I've become a patron myself. We raised a great deal of money for them. Well, I found out you FaceTimed me during a live auction. Apologies for that. Sid, you were obviously working at the time. You roped him into an auction prize. An auction prize. In the moment. Yeah. Oh, great. But I wanted to involve him in the live auction. Yeah.

8:02Tom Fordyce: I loved it. It was brilliant. Literally, as it was going, he was like, oh, yeah, it's up to this. This is the amount. I think he went for good money, wasn't he? Good money. It was like three and a half grand or something. Yeah, it would take that. Brilliant.

8:12Chris Stark: Good cause. Great cause, mate. And listen, they do great work there and it's beautiful to be a part of it and to help. And they were really happy with the amount of money raised. It was fantastic.

8:23Tom Fordyce: Nice. Feels like quite a showbiz week for the pod, what with Sidi being everywhere.

8:29Chris Stark: Well, let's get into the exact, you know, what Sidi's has managed to do this weekend. Yeah. It was nothing short of phenomenal, I think. Should we watch it, Chris, and then we can analyse it?

8:40Tom Fordyce: It's been a really difficult year, Steve. What about Reading then? Because do you feel that they're on the right trajectory right now? Yeah, it's been a real shame to watch them sort of decline over the years. The football club has gone from ownership to ownership and it's just not worked out. And Rob Coogs come in and regards to him and his consortium because he's really steadied the ship at this football club. And that's what they needed. They needed stability. Now they can work on that.

9:02Chris Stark: I just think it's fantastic. There's so much to analyse, Chris. I feel like the deadpan delivery of, and it just fit. It fit perfectly well. The other two don't even flinch. Did the other two know that was normal? No, no. They had no clue. The other two just thought that was normal parlance. Yeah. Well, I mean, do you know what? Because I think normally in that situation, you would say, you know, congratulations to his consortium. But the fact that you've just slipped in regards to his consortium.

9:35Tom Fordyce: It was the perfect moment. It's so good. Because I don't want to do it. I don't want to make it obvious. I know people watching the pod won't understand, but then I don't want to make it sound like the people that don't watch the pod or listen to the pod are going, what is this man talking about? He doesn't deserve to be on TV. Exactly right. It was the perfect balance. It needs to be in context. So I was delighted to get that in and so subtly as well. But the execution, I thought, was exemplary.

10:03Chris Stark: It was nothing short of fantastic. I did promise last time

10:08Tom Fordyce: that I would get hockey stick bang in but I think that that there takes a level of expertise and again hockey stick bang is a hard one generally I've dropped it a couple of times on the radio already have you? it's like I've been pulled up both times have you? oh no so there's no it's I think gonna be a hard one no I can get it

10:30Chris Stark: no but do you know I mean what if something something flies up the charts yeah there's only there's only one outcome that's perfect scenario right I've been working on that for you but I've just been mucking around with a few songs do you want to have a listen oh yeah fantastic great okay

10:58that's one idea

10:59Chris Stark: nice nice is this more of a dance

11:24I like that one.

11:25Chris Stark: I like that one. I like that one a lot.

11:33Tom Fordyce: Hockey stick bang. That was alright. Have you done these?

11:42This is what I imagine Zanti when we're out there, you know? It's kind of true.

11:51Hockey stick.

11:53Chris Stark: That's the best. That's the best. I like that. Okay, so we'll save that for Zanti because obviously we are going out there at the end of the, you know, when the season starts. and obviously I'll take on the Zanzi goalkeeper he's been giving it large we'll do him and then we'll plough on to the nightclub next door and play some of those

12:11Tom Fordyce: definitely are we talking about James Bond we have to talk about James Bond please yeah good because you're not getting away from this what well I don't know but there was a there was a thing on social look we can see his picture here and elegant Peter Crouch has reportedly been cast as the next James Bond outrageous

12:30Chris Stark: I mean these discussions were supposed to be quiet

12:36Chris Stark: and okay you know listen someone might get it you might see someone else get it but you know these discussions that you know nothing's sacred anymore leaked it's been leaked but you know made a best man win what's broccoli saying then um what do you mean Barbara broccoli and the broccoli consortium and the broccoli consortium um yeah no listen we've had our discussions um Anyway, it was put in a group by Jamie, obviously. And then everyone started firing in with suggestions for films. Obviously, the man with the golden boot was one. Gold member.

13:16Tom Fordyce: Yeah.

13:19Chris Stark: Diamond, 442s forever.

13:21Tom Fordyce: That's really good.

13:22Chris Stark: Chris, you put this one in. Doctor No Aura. Yeah, that's good. Outrageous. It's an outrage. The Striker Who Loved Me. Yeah. And no time to dive.

13:32Tom Fordyce: Yeah. That was banging around the group. What was the service provider? That was a good one.

13:40Chris Stark: On Her Majesty's Secret Service Provider. Well, I've got it. Unbelievable. Just before we get, we go on to something else. I've got to say it on my phone, actually. Yeah, just before we move on, guys, I got sent an 11 by Connor Menzler. It was a consortium 11.

13:57Tom Fordyce: Oh, my gosh.

13:58Chris Stark: It was good. I enjoyed it. Manager, Andre Villas-Polus. Share Given. Share Given. Matty Cash. Barkley Sagna. Kurt Zoom.

14:19Chris Stark: Alessandro Investor. Nice. Pascal Gross. Phil Funding. Jude Billingham. oh yeah cash in Ireland cash Robert Earnsmore and Mo Salary nice very good this is brilliant yeah lovely

14:38Tom Fordyce: catched on quick that love it liked it nice

14:41Chris Stark: enjoyed it good good okay lads I don't know if you saw this obviously Cristiano Ronaldo there's a picture of me actually with him playing for Portugal he's retired for from international football what a legend I think has to be the best Portuguese player of all time I know people to talk about Eusebio as well. But incredible achievements. He released, obviously, this statement. Because I'm in Portugal quite a lot, I'm a patron of Animal Rescue Alcalve. I'll translate what he says for you. Thank you. If that's okay. Yeah, yeah, no problem. Here he is. To the Portuguese people, this day has come for me to hand the number seven of our national team back.

15:20Chris Stark: Never felt it belonged to me alone. But for 23 years, I had the privilege and the responsibility of defending it, carrying it with me to stadiums all around the world. Today, the time has come to pass it on to the future. It was not an easy decision because some decisions are not made with the mind alone. They are also made with the heart. A journey that began in August 2003 has changed my life forever. It's come to an end. And I look back at everything I experienced with the national team. I don't just see matches. goals, records or trophies I see people I see Portuguese people living abroad who for 90 minutes felt close to me to home I see millions of Portuguese people I have never met but became part of my life because at the end of the day football is much bigger than a game football is about people throughout my entire career and the national team I always put myself beyond my limits I wanted to win I wanted to be better I wanted to make history I always demand the most of myself I always wanted more I believed we could go further yes it's difficult for me to you know to translate because I speak it in English in my head but how you've done that that's incredible yeah I spent some time out there but but no I think we should probably pay our respects to a real legend there and I'm glad it he's kind of taken the decision to do that I think it was the right time personally yeah the inclusion of the moth in the montage I thought was an odd shout I noticed that as well if you go all his best bits it does seem odd that that's clearly bothered him since yeah a slow-mo about five seconds that was a moth landing on his face unbelievable right and and amazing to put something like that out cinematic what what's happening with the shirt now does a number like that get retired or who takes it on like yeah it's a massive massive shout whoever has to wear that.

17:26It's pretty iconic, isn't it? Yeah.

17:29Chris Stark: I know what you mean. I'm not really a huge admirer of retiring shirts. Like, for instance, like with Maradona, right? Do you retire the number 10 or do you... Messi's probably almost done more or has done more. Yeah. Yeah, the idea that no one else could. Could. It's kind of giving away from the fact that someone could be as good as him. Yeah. Because Messi achieved that. But I think you, I like the idea of being a custodian of the shirt. And even if you then move through several players, when the right person comes along, eventually. We look at Bellingham, obviously, I know he's not Zidane yet, but he's going a lot that way.

18:09Chris Stark: Yeah. I mean, which is amazing with the five. Yeah. George Best wore the number seven, you know, like David Beckham. And then obviously, you know, you've then got Ronaldo himself. Bellingham had it at Birmingham, didn't he? Didn't they retire the number for him?

18:21Tom Fordyce: They did. Yeah, they did. Yeah. Yeah. I think, undoubtedly, Ronaldo has been one of the greatest players ever, obviously, on this planet. But then, if they do retire it, imagine the kids that are playing in Portugal now, all around the world, and they want to aspire to wearing that number seven jersey. That's what I think. They will go, I want to be, that is my dream. It's an aspirational thing. Exactly. I think, you know. That's why you keep it.

18:49Chris Stark: Yeah, and I think it's a real privilege for someone who starts doing really, really well you know we present you yeah with this number we think you can get to that level like what a what a bonus for someone to also like they just make you feel good if you're a top player and you get to a level where it's like oh you deserve this yeah most people would agree that Ronaldo meets the threshold right you'd agree that Messi meets the threshold I think the problem is when you leave this in the power of of of people at football clubs and all of that that threshold could change. It's like the value of a£100 million player.

19:23You know, it's obvious that they could, in theory, retire the shirt for those players. But where do you draw the line? You know? And it's a bit like a vasectomy. In theory, you can reverse that decision, but it's awkward.

19:37Chris Stark: You know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's quite a final... I've always thought it. I've always thought it. The numbers retired from football shirts and vasectomies. Hand in hand. do you know what I mean it's quite a final kind of yeah agreed yeah and yeah it'd be good to see another seven so I mean and what an exciting thought it is back to your point about not retiring as respectful as it may seem it's exciting to imagine there will be a player that is even more greater than what we've seen well I just think if you look at Portugal's the players they've produced over the years you know they're unbelievable players world class players over the course even in that team at the moment with Bruno Fernandes Bernardo Silva you know players of high high quality it's not what I'm saying is it's not you know unconceivable to imagine a player as good as Ronaldo

20:36Tom Fordyce: well look who wore it before Ronaldo as an iconic Figo Figo so I mean big shoes to fill Figo, Ronaldo

20:45Chris Stark: but still Eusebio but these are players of the highest highest quality I don't think anyone will ever beat Ronaldo's goal record I don't think that I don't think that is even you can't even contemplate that no why though more tournaments more games yeah yeah but it's a was it hundreds it's hundreds of goals isn't it hundreds it's loads yeah

21:06Tom Fordyce: it's Ronaldo it's a shit time it's loads I mean

21:09Chris Stark: it's Portugal record yeah 146 goals in 234 games? It's mad. I mean, I'm sticking my neck on the line here, but no one in 234 games is going to get more goals than that. Yeah. I bet you in our lifetime someone does. Really? In our lifetime. Okay, fuck me. Okay, so this is a big one now. What if, Jesus Christ, I'll get a, I'll get a picture of Ronaldo tattooed on me if that happens. It's saying this.

21:44Tom Fordyce: Yes!

21:45Chris Stark: I love this game. It's going to be one of them. It's going to be a silhouette of Ronaldo. No, I'll get it tattooed on me, on my leg or something. Yeah. And you're pure, like you haven't got a single tattoo. Not one tattoo. And then I'll just have Ronaldo's face on me. Oh my God. This is so huge. But I'm willing to stand by that. Bearing in mind, this is going to be a fucking shitload of time. I'm going to be 70 or older. And this podcast, if this potentially could, it might be going, but there's a high chance it won't be going and all of a sudden I've just put on my social a picture of whoever it is Pedro Neto bags another 110 I will hold you to this as we'll see whichever one of us is alive this footage is going to be around forever and you know I think in 30 years time when it happens or something some young player at the moment he's training in the favelas in Lisbon it could be you listening could be one of our listeners right now just needed that extra motivation I'm going to do this if you listen right now can outscore Ronaldo do they have to be Portuguese or is it oh yeah he's played for the Portuguese national team okay yeah if you are listening from Portugal and you're 10 years old and you're doing keeping ups in Madeira

23:10Chris Stark: you potentially have the ability to tattoo my leg. Good luck. Right, lads, some headline news from the weekend football. We've got to start, Man United versus Aston Villa. What an amazing game, eh? Crazy. Mad game. Mad game. I mean, Villa, I mean, it was just, it was end-to-end. I think defensively, obviously, poor from both teams, really, but people are saying the greatest game the Premier League's ever seen. I mean, where do you stand on that?

23:36Tom Fordyce: I mean, 4-4. They're thrillers, aren't they? 4-4. And this one was, but not the greatest. No. It weren't like Newcastle, Liverpool. There's been some great ones down the line, isn't there? No, with 10 minutes left to go, the commentators were very much like, normally with the Man United team, you would expect this last 10 minutes, you'd be worried, I think they said, or as the opposing team, that goals would be scored. They were almost writing that off because of the tempo and the game at that point. It was a very exciting ending, but yeah I don't think it was kind of blow for blow sort of thing throughout no enjoyable though very enjoyable yeah yeah good

24:18Chris Stark: obviously congratulations to everyone at Nottingham Forest Consortium yes

24:24Tom Fordyce: well incredible win big win can you believe before this game they hadn't scored a home game a goal at home

24:31Chris Stark: yeah just hadn't scored a goal pleased for Liam De Lapp as well pleased for Liam De Lapp as well because that goal that De Lapp goal was amazing yeah one end of the pitch yeah great goals good goals yeah City again obviously struggled there they lost the last three

24:48Tom Fordyce: three in a row

24:49Chris Stark: in the league what's happened there? maybe interesting and again the same with Sunderland as well really really struggling this season yeah and a massive result against Chelsea yeah

25:03Tom Fordyce: do you know what look at these teams there Chelsea City obviously United where they are but this genuinely could be a season for anyone to get in the top four anybody really you look at the likes of Bournemouth Brentford Brighton all these teams could be the most entertaining open seasons we've seen yeah

25:26Chris Stark: this and again Hove since we've mentioned Hove as well the Hove side of Brighton and Hove Albion has galvanised them hasn't it as you can see Gomez as well what a goal that was yeah it just shows you when you put two parts of the city together yeah as one yeah what happens

25:46Tom Fordyce: they can go on

25:46Chris Stark: and achieve anything people talk about Premier League yeah

25:50Tom Fordyce: fantastic agreed we do have an

25:51Chris Stark: international break coming up boys obviously it was not as long as the last one I had a lovely time at the last one obviously taking my boys to the Spain game it was great yeah you know in regards to the FA Consortium for helping me meet some of the players obviously my boys were buzzing with me They meet Yamal and Harry Kane, down to the dressing room. It was fantastic.

26:12Tom Fordyce: Nice.

26:13Chris Stark: Had the best day. Great game of football as well. You'll try and take them to the Croatia game, actually. Yeah. Try and get down there. I don't know what it is about the international games. I just can't. I don't get a horny free. No, I know what you mean. I know what you mean. It's just my boys love it, you know, like seeing the stars, you know. Well, they were in the tunnel. Yeah, yeah. It was different. It was different gravy, really. Yeah, yeah. I know what you're saying Sid however it is an excuse to go see a bit of lower league isn't it oh yeah of course and sometimes you can forget to do that as well yeah people write off and go yeah and you've been going to a few games this season Sid obviously with your boy playing and stuff

26:54Tom Fordyce: yeah yeah how's it all going he's down alone at Eastleigh yes no he's doing well he's doing well and we've we've mastered a kind of a bit of a plan haven't we about getting some some stickers

27:03Chris Stark: yes right so I just noticed actually in the office before we came in to do the podcast in the Chumbawamba. There's a load of stickers. They're dotted around the office. Jamie, my ears, my beautiful young helper. My assistant. Glamorous assistant. Jamie there. These are the stickers and there's loads of them we've got. So we thought if we do go to non-league certainly or any league in general really everywhere we've dished them out to a few of the lads any games you go to just put them in various little locations maybe video it bang it out there and see see what we can come up with I think there'll be some good places I'll try to get the maidenhead and we'll get a couple up there for sure when you're at Wembley maybe if you go to Wembley Wembley could be a good shot I find myself anywhere near the tunnel again just bang that on the way out anywhere yeah

28:04Tom Fordyce: anywhere we're nice I think it's a great idea just football stadiums no no don't limit it no the jingle bell ball coming up oh here we go lovely

28:16Chris Stark: who would you say is like the biggest the biggest performer there of if you can like Capaldi oh Lewis lovely John Legend doing a bit there it's a good line up I'm just thinking if you could put it on Capaldi's drum or something. Yeah. You know, like, because you're going to be on stage if you can get it just on his snare. Okay. We're going for the drum kit now. We'll be nice on the drum kit. No, I need the drum kits. Drum kits at the O2. Why not? Okay. They sometimes have their logo on it. Why can't we get ours on there? I totally agree. Well, you know, when you're backstage, you see all the equipment and the cases and all that.

29:03Yeah. Just whack a couple on those. as well and I'll take them with them around the world all around the world yeah yeah okay great alright alright

29:11Tom Fordyce: it's all stuff to point out okay well back to the international though yeah the Bellingham brothers they're in the squad for the first time what do we think about that

29:20Chris Stark: yeah I mean I don't know what the deal is with brothers over the course obviously I played with the Neville brothers with England what was that kind of thing Charlton we had the Charlton brothers did the Neville brothers ever sort of bicker was it like yeah yeah I'd say oh yeah but more than two other players do you know what I mean like brother you know when you I don't even mean like a pissed off with your brother or something or like yeah I mean yeah definitely they used to slay each other like certain things yeah it's quite does he call him Phil or Philip Gary yeah it's a good point I've heard he saved Philip before Philip yeah it was more Philip I think yeah

29:57Tom Fordyce: so sorry so who are the there's only three brothers three sets that have played in the same team is that right for England Yes.

30:05Chris Stark: Charlton.

30:06Tom Fordyce: Charlton. Nevels.

30:08Chris Stark: Nevels. Who's the other one? The other Bellinghams, you say? Another. Or is there another one?

30:12Tom Fordyce: No, no, that's it. That's it? Yeah.

30:14Chris Stark: I mean, what a proud moment for the Bellingham family in general if they end up playing together. Wouldn't that be amazing? You know, to have one kid playing for England is unbelievable, right? Yeah. I mean, the chances of it are very low. To have two. In the same team. Yeah.

30:31Tom Fordyce: Yeah. We've never had triplets for England, have we? No way. No way. Do you know what? Any football team. No way.

30:39Chris Stark: Do you know what? I'll get a tattoo of all three of them. If that happens.

30:52Chris Stark: Wow. So hold on a minute. In 1881, England's pre-war brothers, there's triplets, Ernest, Charlie and Arthur Bambridge. In 1881, three brothers played for England. that effectively not in the same team no it's hard to say

31:09Tom Fordyce: jeez if there was triplets in one team I'd even argue with the double there I would argue that means as a parent you're effectively one of the assistant managers because you're responsible for

31:22Chris Stark: most of the team you know a significant proportion of the team yeah also the chances of having triplets I don't know what the odds are but I'd say pretty low yeah

31:32Tom Fordyce: yeah

31:32Chris Stark: the answer of those of them all enjoying football, I'd say is pretty low. Then the odds of them all playing professional football then to represent their country. Well, slightly bigger, I would say, the odds on the basis that with the brothers, do you feel that it's kind of DNA related? Do you think those two have something they're born with? Well, the dad, correct me if I'm wrong,

31:59Tom Fordyce: I'm sure he plays for England over 50s.

32:01Chris Stark: yeah so Jude and Job's dad yeah plays for England as well so that's right three of them are representing their country fair play alright well listen you know congratulations to them yeah what consortium dull Christmas though isn't it if the whole family is taking it because you you were saying Christmas time with the family was trickier wasn't it I suppose if you're not on your own then yeah yeah but if there's two of you

32:29Tom Fordyce: that are playing double bubble yeah have you been involved in any games where any siblings or cousins or so like Jamie Redknapp would have played Frank Lampard wouldn't yeah yeah quite a lot they used to go in hard on each other didn't they quite a lot I always remember it was quite like an intense game that yeah so obviously they're cousins so have you been involved in any games where someone's a family so Harry obviously Harry was manager so you He played under Harry where he may have...

33:02Chris Stark: Well, he managed with Jamie. When I was at Southampton where Harry was the manager and Jamie was the captain. That's crazy. Which is interesting. They're both winners, you know? They were both real winners. It never felt like... And also, you know what Harry's like? He wouldn't let anyone even... Jamie was obviously... He'd done so much in the game, right? And when he comes to Southampton, it was very much like everyone looked up to Jamie anyway. I think it becomes difficult when certainly, do you know that interview when Frank was at West Ham and Harry goes and someone's questioning him? I think someone goes out or they sell someone, don't they?

33:42Chris Stark: And they keep Frank and he's like, oh, are you just... He's going to go to the very top. And he says that you'll go to the very top. But I think the questions come because you're family. Whereas Jamie at that stage has achieved so much. She played for England and everyone was pleased to have him, really, and just keep him fit. So that was never questioned, but I don't think Harry would even be asked about that anyway. My son's a top player, regardless, whether he's my son or not. He was basically coming to help his dad out, really. Yeah. And that's why he was there. Does it add another dimension?

34:13Just giving this a bit of thought with the Bellinghams and that. You think having your brother on the pitch, I don't know, adds a dynamic that's helpful. So rather than just the bickering side of things that we're talking about, does it actually, I don't know is it some sort of weird bond or something like is there an element of extra power that comes with it or is it just another player I think it's good for the players

34:36Chris Stark: because I think you know say Joe for instance now right this is his first time in the squad I believe right so his brother is you know we saw what he did in in the World Cup you know if I'm a kind of player or I'm a bit nervous like you know your brother's there already like that must be a great you know to ease him in must be really good must be really helpful to have someone like that that you know's got your back at all cost I think obviously help him and he's a he's a fantastic player in his own right because he deserves to be there it's not for any other reason other than him deserving to be there yeah

35:11Tom Fordyce: I suppose Jude's got probably an element where he's got to let him stand on his own devices isn't he as well find his own way he's got to be that because they seem like a real tight knit this England squad so I'm assuming there's going to be a bit of banter as well you know yeah definitely they're warming up and he's probably sort of in pairs and he might be looking after him. He's not even like a friends show, is he? Friends. Do you think a manager would have... Family. Family. Would the manager have gone to Jude before, do you reckon? No. Can he? Say what? I'm thinking of bringing your brother in.

35:46Chris Stark: Well, you think Thomas Suka's gone to Jude? That's right, Mark. No. Nah. What do you reckon? Should we do it? Well, imagine he said nah, I mean shit

36:00Chris Stark: you imagine nah mate not for me nah he can't have done that he can't have asked you're only going to say yes aren't you if you say no so has Jude gone to the manager and gone can my brother come over can he have a game

36:15Tom Fordyce: can my brother play yeah I don't know do you know what you talk about funny ones family ones the game went on the weekend Peterborough v. Reading Peterborough manager Robbie Savage yeah yeah of course Charlie Savage he scored as well he was the player of the match

36:31Chris Stark: was he brilliant he was outstanding was he really he was how much of that for Robbie right he must be buzzing obviously see his boy do so well obviously so we

36:39Tom Fordyce: you know Robbie really well we've worked with him very emotional very passionate loves his football we spoke to him after off cameras before and talk about the elements of management and the stresses and the highs and lows and talk about Charlie as well because Charlie's having a bit of a tough time at Reading you know he wasn't starting games so he was starting that night so was he at Man United before yes so in his own right it was a big game for Charlie because he wants to play well but then if he plays well and scores whatever in the outcome of that game it's going to go against his dad that also needs a big result because he's struggling because they had a few losses and he could like the whole build up was about them two and I felt like do you know what it's lovely but someone's going to be on a losing side ultimately Reading won 5-0 Charlie Savage was exceptional but even the handshake after so you could tell that obviously Sav was Robbie was really pleased for him but didn't even give him a smirk after which was like a little sort of high five that was it because he's no his team's been thumped on TV 5-0 it doesn't look good on his managerial career so that was I found that really difficult to talk to after but give Charlie his flowers he was he was brilliant he was awesome

37:52Chris Stark: he's got to do listen you've got to be professional right family whatever it is you know like you can't you have to be professional in that situation I think like father and son you know I'm sure obviously with Jamie Redknapp I don't know the ins and outs of that but when he's played against you know Harry's West Ham maybe for Liverpool or there must have been certain situations like that and we saw it recently was it Ashley Young who's is his lad Tyler yeah they didn't

38:21Tom Fordyce: they was they were They didn't get on, did they? Yeah. Actually played. It was an FA Cup game. Actually played. Tyler was on the bench for Peterborough as well, I want to say. But he didn't bring him on, the manager. I think it was Alex Ferguson's son.

38:37Chris Stark: That's right. Darren.

38:39Tom Fordyce: Darren Ferguson. He was a manager. He didn't bring him on. And it would have been the first time for him to have shared a pitch.

38:44Chris Stark: Would have been nice.

38:45Tom Fordyce: Would have been nice, yeah. But that's football. Yeah. I don't know. Family and football. Do they mix?

38:53Chris Stark: Family and football do they... That's a big question. It sounded like... It sounded like Kilroy. Kilroy! Fuck, wait, since it's gone deep. Jesus. Family and football. Do they mix? Give us five on that.

39:15Chris Stark: Fucking hell, I mean, what? Chris, have you got anything? Let's move on to it. Family and football. we once had one Sunday league game that I was playing for Penn Stars and it was a big game against Rice Liberators excuse me

39:36Chris Stark: football's for everyone I think with family and football I've got to finish my anecdote so when he's cut you off again he's cut you off no yeah You've got to respect the lower leagues at the pyramid. No, of course, yeah. You would be nothing without the lower leagues. Go for it. Go for it. What happened? Pinstas, Reislip Rangers back in the day. Big derby. It doesn't get big. It doesn't get bigger than that.

40:08Anyway, what's tricky for me is a lot of my family are from the Reislip area. So we're playing this game, I'm playing left back, and I've cleared the ball out, and I've hit what I've later found out is my second cousin's mum in the face with the football. It's only when we were around my grands later, I've heard about, you know, a little shit from the football game earlier. She got hurt in it and I was like, that was me.

40:37Now they were second cousins and parents of second cousins. So, you know, stretching it when we say family, but in that instance, I would say family and football did not mix.

40:45Chris Stark: Yeah, that's a valid, valid point. I think it can it can go well though yeah yeah

40:52Tom Fordyce: family and football I actually think this would be a good one to throw out to listeners because there's going to be a lot of stories out there yeah this covers brothers this is the new wider football it's because there's so much in this the classic one is you start seeing someone meet the family they all support your rival team yeah family and football can really not mix not mix

41:17Chris Stark: Yeah, so that's exactly, we've had the loads of those over the years, especially when the daughter brings home a, usually like a not really a football fan daughter would bring the boyfriend home to like a staunch Man United fan or bring like a scouse at home. I've had this recently, not recently, but one of my best friends, Jason, is married to a Mancunian and the Mancunian scouse situation, staunch Manchester United fans one side and Liverpool fans the other where they live number one who does the son first son support they're tricky situations where where it can be done because in that in that circumstance I've seen it it has it has worked they're still together they do get on with the families grandparents go for it as well grandparents sort of try and put their football team on on the kids from the off as well but let us know I think I think if we put it out there to the listeners get in touch can is what was the question again Kilroy what was it family football and family football and family but do they mix we have football we have family do they mix have you can I quickly show you do you guys know about Kilroy I love Kilroy can I quickly we know Kilroy if you are listening right now and don't know Kilroy like Kilroy was pretty Jeremy Carlton what happened to him Pre-Trish show.

42:42Chris Stark: Where'd the Kilroy go? The mad thing about Kilroy would be the questions that he would ask at the start of the show. And there's this amazing YouTube video where they just do loads... Seven years ago, and you're still in love with him? You let your kids eat their way to an early grave. You're surrounded by your family and friends. But do they mix? It keeps trying to get you out of your soul. You have family and friends in football. But they don't mix.

43:23Your daughter brings home a fan of a rival team and you spit in their soup.

43:32Chris Stark: Is it acceptable to call your son of your favourite player?

43:42Chris Stark: Okay, why the football not?

43:52Chris Stark: Right lads, the next part of the podcast is supported by Paddy Power. Let's kick off with why the football not. Jack says, hi Crouchy, Sid and Chris. Regards to your consortium. Regards. I'm a Liverpool fan. I work as a children's magician on weekends. On Sunday, I was at a kid's birthday party with my phone hidden in my top hat so I could follow the palace game. But if you're a magician, I'm sure you can hide a phone and watch the football. When Vert scored, I pulled the phone out. The kids were gutted it wasn't a rabbit. I showed them the replays of the gull and celebrated like a possessed man to a room full of six-year-olds.

44:27Chris Stark: Not one of them cared. In fact, I think one of them cried. Why the football not? Those kids' parties can be so annoying. and like to be sat around the edge, you know, where you've taken your kid there and you're having polite conversation with other parents, things like that. If I watched a kid's magician pull a phone from a top hat and start showing replays of goals, I'd fucking love it. We'd be invested. You'd love it. You would be invested, yeah. It's great, isn't it? To be fair. Fair play to you. He's watching the match. That's dedication to this craft. Brilliant. Yeah, it really is. I have to say, where do you stand?

45:03I mean, I did a fireworks,

45:07Chris Stark: night on Sunday night recently and where do you stand like obviously you can't drop them off there but I mean with kids parties is it more a drop off and go policy for you or like because when they're young is it what age do you start leaving them do you know what I mean because obviously every you know everyone wants to just leave

45:27Tom Fordyce: yeah small talk isn't it there is a bit

45:30Chris Stark: they want to be there and then come back

45:32Tom Fordyce: yeah I think you might get the odd one where you're whether it's your only child or whether it's one of your siblings, one of your kids, and then they've got a good friendship group as in like the friends and you know their dads. Know their parents. And then if you've got that, you've struck gold. If you've got a consortium where you can sort of all agree most of you don't want to be there, you each take it in turn to just sort of sit there and do the token thing, you know? Yeah. On the magician front, similar but different, Crouchy, a party I was at on Saturday night, it was a birthday party.

46:05They'd hired a magician to sort of walk around the room. They're always impressive, you know, and they do the stuff where they like take cash and turn it around, do the cash, take the ring off, like hide it, put it in Sid's pocket, that sort of thing. The only bit I really don't like is you'll be having a conversation with one of your mates and it's the way they integrate or introduce themselves to the conversation. Yeah, that's awkward. That specific 10, 15 seconds is awful.

46:34Chris Stark: yeah and you know they always come over and they've always got their sleeves up yeah and they move them up as well and then go hi I'm you know the magician well they hit it with confidence yeah you know when you're having a good discussion you know like I haven't seen my mates for ages you know someone's hired a magician you know we'll have a little chat for us three right oh lads I haven't seen you for ages and then he goes oh hi I'm the magician you go fuck off and they got you then for five Five minutes. And you're handing over your phone, your wallet, everything. It's all good. It's great.

47:10This isn't a thing against a magician because what they do is amazing, but it's the way they have to come over and... Totally agree. Yeah. That initial bit. That initial... You should be able to go to them if you want. I fancy... Do you boys fancy a trick? Brilliant. Do you know what I mean? It's like, we go to the bar for a beer and then be like, conversation's got a little light. We've discussed the weeds football. Boys, lad over there turning out tricks.

47:34Chris Stark: they're amazing these tricks do you want to go see them should we go and have a trick 100 % let's change the dynamic of magic why the magic not and actually do you know why I think this is a good thing Crouch as well for their point of view they're having to work a room it's hard for them I think it's yeah it's too it's too much for it it's too intense if you set yourself up over in the corner with a little booth and a sign just says tricks free tricks magic this way free tricks and we'll come to you fucking perfect makes total sense Chris I'm glad you raised that yeah alright well listen keep them coming in because we always enjoy them why the football not with regards to the our football league we've had another shocker here lads we've drawn a blank who out of these games right ok Man United and Villa they can go either way ok I went for Villa Cid's went for for Man United Chris you went for for Villa as well ok I get that one that could have gone either way but Spurs Leeds I mean yeah Chelsea who saw that with the form who saw Sunder winning that none of us did anyway

48:44Tom Fordyce: we'll look at our scorelines as well 4-0 3-0 2-0 Spurs we thought there was a bit more of a bounce they should have got at least a goal so I still think it was you know Leeds did deserve to win it was the right result I'm not questioning the result I'm just saying we weren't far off with the shouts mitigating circumstances here

49:01Chris Stark: right it's time for the Paddy Power big fixture it's I know you're not horny for international breaks but Spain versus England may get a slight bit of movement it's going to get more than a twinge I think it's 1-2 Spain England are 9-2 strong favourites then really draw 7-2 I don't think England are terribly priced at 9-2 I know Spain are the best team world champions but they're not great value at 1-2 are they? No.

49:35Tom Fordyce: I think England are priced better. That's a good one. The repeat of last meeting 3-2 Spain 14-1.

49:41Chris Stark: Lovely. Nicely.

49:42Tom Fordyce: You see a lot of goals in this game.

49:44Chris Stark: And that'll get you the extra points on the league standings. We've got Ballon d 'Or rivals haven't we? Yaman and Kane leading goal scorers.

49:54Tom Fordyce: Yeah. I think we've had some tough international ones before. We know quite a lot about their form but we know about this.

50:02Chris Stark: We certainly do. If you've got Kane and you've got Bellingham firing, you know, full of confidence, Ballon d 'Or winner and mate, he's got his brother along. So, why the football night? Depends if the family can mix in this. But, they're two brothers. Can they mix?

50:25All right.

50:26Chris Stark: What do you reckon in that? England in Spain's backyard. I'm going to take 14-1 I'm going to go straight in there I'm going to go Spain 3-2

50:35Tom Fordyce: are you? yeah that's massive that is massive that gets me an extra point yeah I'm not at that stage yet I don't think I'm at the gamble yet okay I'm I'm going to go I can't not go against England I'm going to go England I think listen they played really well against them they were unlucky I thought I'm going to go England I think Spain will score I'm going to go for us to win 2-1. 2-1. Sorry.

51:06Okay. This is hard because... This is very hard. I'm going to go Spain 2-1. Okay, fantastic.

51:17Chris Stark: We've got another belter of a game. Well, you know, historically a belter of a game. Italy versus France.

51:24Tom Fordyce: Italy. I thought their form hadn't been great over recent weeks, but looking at that, they've won three. out of six. Lost one against Belgium.

51:32Chris Stark: Got a stat for you as well. Italy have scored in each of their last nine meetings in France. They always seem to score. But they have lost their last three home meetings versus France. It is in Italy.

51:42Tom Fordyce: In Italy, yeah. Okay, and they've scored as well in each of their last nine meetings, have they?

51:48Chris Stark: Yes. They pumped Belgium, didn't they, in the last game? France? Yeah. Yeah. Their only loss is that England. They drew in France, didn't they? Yeah. I remember doing that game you know we did that game in the international break France it's the last one where they drew one all

52:06Tom Fordyce: yeah I don't see anything other than France on this I'm going to say I'm going to go I'm diving in well you go first then no no no what was you saying well what no you go first no just exciting

52:16Chris Stark: he's scared you're going to go 2-1 somewhere no I'm not going 2-1 what are you going to go 3-1 to France no I was going to go 3-1 no it looks like no because I know what happens what would you want I'll go 2-1 and then everyone goes 2-1 again what's the point don't listen to outside noise I'm not this season

52:32Tom Fordyce: I'm not me you're on the beach stony

52:36Chris Stark: do you remember your call to start of season didn't you say United win a league is that what you said yeah slow start but they'll get there

52:47I could have picked any other it's a slow burner it's a slow burner that one do you know what's mental about that and the heat I got from it is I could have picked any other like Like, the way this league is going, just go for anyone. Anyone other than Palace and I would have been fine.

53:05Chris Stark: Oh, well. All right, so what are you going to go? 2-1. Okay. France. Good shout. I'm going to go 1-0 France. Considering it was tight last time.

53:17Tom Fordyce: Yeah.

53:17Chris Stark: But I still fancy France to win. And a belter of a game historically, really. Germany versus the Netherlands. 2-0. Straight in 2-0. Lovely. quite a lot of draws I think when I look at Germany Drew with Greece recently Drew with the Netherlands in the last game Drew with Paraguay that was at the World Cup wasn't it what do you fancy me I'm going to go with you went 2 it was a quick 2-2 as well wasn't it I'm going to go with 2-1 Germany

53:49Tom Fordyce: I'm going to go for an efficient 1-0 win for Germany

53:55Chris Stark: nice 1-0 okay just quickly what's your thoughts on not saying Holland anymore it's just the elephant in the room isn't it thank you Peter because once again we're saying something without being informed well I think on this podcast what you do you won't get any commentator or football commentator explaining why they're now called it's like Czechia whatever they're called they were Czech Republic no one's explained to me exactly why Turkey A Turkey A you know It was Turkey.

54:28Tom Fordyce: Yeah.

54:28Chris Stark: It's now Turkey, eh? Yeah. Holland, I understand it because I've Googled this before. And the reason behind it is it's a region in the Netherlands, Holland. I didn't know that. Yeah. So that's why we're learning as well. But I knew that because I've Googled it before. It's a region. Yeah. So the Netherlands is the country and a region. But basically... So I've ended up calling it Holland. Because the English, it was a very... I think it was very English back in the day. It was the English part of the Netherlands. Don't quote me on that, but I believe that's the reason. And it was, so when we referred to it, we referred to it as Holland.

55:03Chris Stark: That's where majority of people would go from England. Do you know what I mean? Yes. So it's all we knew. So in Euro 96, I'm trying to remember, did we, was it, were they called Holland? I think they were Holland then. No. For us. But always Netherlands for them.

55:17Tom Fordyce: I think they've always been, I think they're, whenever they play on TV, they've always been Netherlands in the corner. They've never been like, you don't think England is ENG isn't it England like because in like the schools yeah it would always be Netherlands I'm pretty sure I can't remember seeing a H-O-L but I remember

55:36Chris Stark: commentators referring to them as Holland I think you're right no thank you because where's your man let's ask your buddy which one commentator Clive Tilsley of course it's Clive Tilsley what am I asking is it called Netherlands no I'm just saying have you said the words Holland he won't off he's a classy guy he tells me off for calling them Man United he picks me up on it does he really yeah you know a bit like if you don't do your manners if I'm with him and I say oh Man United had a shocker at the weekend he'll go Manchester United

56:10Tom Fordyce: do you know what I noticed that you say that I noticed that on the weekend Ashley Young said Manchester United every single time did he really never said United never said Man United so I think it's one of them when especially if you if you know you know you always have to say Manchester United I think you're right Brighton and Hove yeah that might take a bit of time in my opinion I think it should be that I think we should I think if you should ask Clyde Tillsley if that's right for a voice note and then come back to us yes he would have known that he would have said no for as long as I've known or as long as I've worked in the international games hang on they would have been and also never lint in the corner

56:50Chris Stark: can I just do this claim as well I've just explained that it was the English it was majority of English people used to go there. Just for a disclaimer, that could be complete bollocks. Hello, mate. I'm just doing the podcast at the moment. The boys have a question. At any point in your career of commentating, did you call the Netherlands Holland or have you always been Netherlands? Let me know. Ideally in voice note form. Thank you. Lovely. All right. That'd be great if Clive Tilsey gets back to us because he can clear that up. I'd like also as well I don't even want to be friends at the rest of this history or anything podcast what you want me to go for obviously what I said could be complete bollocks about you know the history of us calling it Holland yeah it'd be odd if the country comes after us though do you want me to know no no no I just for my you know I don't really give a fuck but I find I find normally if we need correcting we get Susie Dent on and everyone's happy you know I just think I'll be more than that do you want to ask Susie Dent that question don't we usually use it for sort of spelling and yeah I don't think it's geography isn't it really or history geographical geographical geographical history you've just reminded me of something else do you know what I found out the other day which really pissed me off again might be bollocks they should call this podcast it may be bollocks yep well I've got no the thing is we're saying things we've got no clarification or or knowing I just thought I heard it once about Holland right see and I'm really pleased you've done this Holland thing because it was on my mind as you were saying it and like it's good we're getting to bottom of it here's another one for you who wants to be a millionaire you know when they go I'm going to phone a friend in my mind if I'm on there I've got like you and my phone you and my phone I've got maybe a list of 10 that I've given them and I choose the one who will know the most about that subject so if I was on there I would want different skill sets and different people.

58:53Someone's told me they just have one friend and they're calling them regardless. Really? And I'm hearing that that person is in a little booth next to the studio with a runner from the show to check that they're not Googling anything. So I like to imagine that it's like I get put through and it's not Chris Tarrant, it's Jeremy Clancy. I was just imagining it in bed or something, you know what I mean? Yeah, exactly. Oh, are you sorry? I'm just in Waitrose. I really hope he picks up, never picks up to me, Peter. but you try Jeremy Jeremy phones you it's ringing you answer hi Peter it's Jeremy Clarkson here I've got your friend Chris Start you'll no doubt say something funny like who?

59:34put the phone down or something

59:36Chris Stark: is that the kind of thing I do is it? that's not it that's not you wouldn't I don't think and if I think if I called you on Who Wants to Be a Millionaire you wouldn't pick up but how funny would it be if I was in a booth, right, with a runner, right, and I didn't pick up.

59:57Chris Stark: And then the runner's going to, Peter, yeah, you've got that, that's your, you're on now, you're on. And I go, I have my right. I go, fuck him. Let that run to voicemail. But then, if this is true, and it might not be, and I hope I'm, this is a little bit, rest is entertainment, actually, quite like, if that's not true, then sorry. but if that's true then when Jeremy Clarkson phones the friend they're having to pretend that the call has come out of nowhere right so Jeremy Clarkson goes hi Steve it's Jeremy Clarkson they're always like oh hi Jeremy yeah but they know they're getting the call because they're in a fucking so they're acting someone tell me if you happen to have been on Who Wants to Be a Millionaire and you were the phone a friend let me know and then nine times out of ten the friend hasn't got a fucking clue anyway yeah yeah oh well would we be would we be on your phone a friend who would you have well it depends like now you're telling me I can only have one person I think you've got to have like a midfielder yeah somebody who knows everything right like you know I think you've got your specialist subjects that I would take you in on but if I need an all rounder you know I mean Susie Dent someone like that you know I'd love to have her involved with me yeah that would be a flex something like that you know what about this one if that question did arise about you know why did we used to call it Holland and Netherlands who would you pick on who wants to be really there who would you have if I had free range of my phone book if you know that's the question who would you pick for that question because then we'll get in touch with them and find out exactly why rude hulet

1:01:38it's so good

1:01:40Chris Stark: because he spanned Holland and Netherlands didn't he

1:01:47Chris Stark: you couldn't have picked a better person actually alright so lads if you can get in touch with Rude we've been going before haven't we that's brilliant we've been going before see it's actually you got in touch with JT didn't you and JT I got a video from Rude remember when I did that yes so if you can get in touch with Rude will you text JT and say do you mind passing on a message to Rude and just ask him why yes why Holland and why Netherlands and why is it just the English that did that okay

1:02:15Tom Fordyce: I'll voice down that

1:02:16Chris Stark: alright brilliant so we did add we went on a bit about Neverland didn't we do the predictions we did do the predictions we did do the predictions the predictions are wrapped up so once again we'll be sharing all the picks on the feed on the Paddy Power app for you to find the feed is where you can browse copy share the bets with other football fans everyone shares their bets and if you see one you fancy you can just copy it and make your own Head to the featured tab on the feed in the Paddy Power app to find our picks. Odds, of course, are correct at the time of recording. 18 plus, gambleaware.org.

1:02:59Boys, at the time of recording this, very quickly, I've just seen a video pop up of Wayne Rooney arriving in Australia. Is this real? Because you don't know whether he's AI or... No, this is definitely him arriving in Australia. but what's amazing about it is he's obviously there to do I'm a Celebrity but he has to deny that so all the journalists know he's there we all watching know he's there for the jungle he has to try and duck the questions which you're really good at as footballers and you're trained to do this shall we see how he gets on? yeah Hi Wayne I'm calling you how are you?

1:03:34Tom Fordyce: how was your flight? how was your flight? are you excited to be in Australia?

1:03:48Tom Fordyce: Wait, will you be doing any karaoke

1:03:50Chris Stark: when you're in Australia?

1:03:52Tom Fordyce: Are you looking forward to doing karaoke in Australia?

1:03:58Chris Stark: Oh, is it? Okay. Yeah. He'll be all right in the jungle, won't he? I think he'll do great. I think he'll do great. He's very funny and he's a great character. And I think, and I think he kind of loves those kind of shows. I think he'll enjoy doing them. Yeah. I think it'd be great. Yeah, same. I'm looking forward to watching. That's, you know, if he is in the jungle. If he's in the jungle, of course. He might be in Australia for, I don't know, you know, just visit the Gold Coast or something. Right, lads, before we go, I know it's been a while since we won this, but I just left it in my house, Ragers.

1:04:35Chris Stark: But yeah, I'd just, you know, like to say thank you again for everything that you do for this podcast from behind the camera and you boys on it. There's a British podcast award there for the best podcast in the sport category. That's that Peter Crouch podcast.

1:04:51Tom Fordyce: Brilliant.

1:04:52Chris Stark: Well done everyone. There it is. It's just an addition to the Chumble one bar. I was going to put it kind of in front of Ronaldo since he's retired from Portugal. What a fitting way to retire him. Yeah. Yeah, put him next to him. Maybe next to him because you know I think he deserves to stay up there. Game sees game. Yeah, I just think, yeah. There you go. Great addition, lads. Congratulations. Regards to this whole consortium.

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