

6 Apr 2026 · 13m · 6 chapters

Episode topic: Niall Horan discusses early “wonderkid” pressure, media comparisons of One Direction to Beatles-era success, and his post-football (golf) routines while touring; he also shares a story about a failed golf lesson due to being left-handed.
Niall Horan (former One Direction; former England youth footballer; Irish/UK pop star) and an unnamed interviewer/host (also into golf; mentions “Crouch” and plays golf with Niall).
there’s “no book” for coping with wonderkid/burst-on-scene expectations; media comparisons to Beatles were more about numbers/scale; Grammy nomination would be his “Ballon d’Or.”
New York taxi moment when One Direction’s first album hit #1; under-18 England team included Ashley Cole and Ledley King; golf lesson with Tyrell Hatton’s dad who refused because the simulator wasn’t set for lefties; Australia news cameras/helis during a par-3; pre-gig routines like “chalk out” foot-tennis/tech-ball and showering right before.
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Exploration of the pressures faced by young football stars compared to others.
“It's like not many people can break America, but you boys did and are still doing.”
Discussion about media comparisons between One Direction and The Beatles.
“Yeah, is there anything you want to do that you haven't done or is there anything that is, yeah?”
Insights into the experience of breaking into the American market.
“We've had quite a few wins over the last few years as well.”
Reflections on career achievements and thoughts on regrets.
Discussing aspirations of being recognized at the Grammy Awards.
“And even like brushing my teeth and spreading myself.”
Funny anecdotes about golf lessons and experiences shared.

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Automatic transcript. May contain errors.
0:00Going back to the start of both of your careers, you probably at one point described as a wonder kid, right? A wonder kid in your fields. What was the pressure around that like? No, for me, I was like, I was a slow burner, you know what I mean? Like these boys were Michael Owen, you know, Wade Rooney, like burst on the scene. And that level, I don't think there's any, there's no way of coping with that. There's no one, no one's done it as well. Like you boys were so big. There's no book for it. yeah like there's no way of there's no one can teach you that because no one's been there yeah that's true who did you play your like underage football with Tottenham no but like with did you play England yeah I played England yeah I was under 18 with who who was on that team well my under 21 team was pretty good but like we had under 18 we had Ashley Cole sort of Ledley King God I'm trying to think like Terry JT was yeah we come a bit yeah but yeah we played yeah wow yeah there's just no there's no there's no book for it yeah if it hasn't been done like that in a while it's not like you could just go to you know what's happening McCartney I'm not saying that's what they were comparing it to you know it was like well the numbers are like I don't know it's a different story obviously that wasn't me comparing One Direction to the Beatles but that's what the media were saying you know and it was like oh yeah Paul what's going on man I need a bit of advice but the difference is like It's America, isn't it?
1:24It's like not many people can break America, but you boys did and are still doing. It's just, yeah, when you grow up around here, it's the holy grail, isn't it? It's good to break America or whatever. So I remember being in New York the day our first album went, number one, it was in the back of a yellow taxi heading somewhere and found out that we were number one. And I remember that moment being like, oh my god this is different what's it like over there like with fan wise and things like that is it more crazy or is it similar it's yeah they're very like they're a passionate bunch yeah it's a massive country so you might like conquer some of it you know what I mean but it's yeah it's very good I enjoy it over there in the States I play a lot of shows there every year have you done do you feel like I'm not even saying regret I'm talking like when you that Champions League game you look back on that right and you don't I don't think you have regrets about the final yeah but it wasn't quite no yeah I mean yeah I suppose it's the pinnacle of my career and then obviously like it didn't go to plan so thanks for bringing it up though no I'm sorry I didn't want to bring the mood down but what I'm trying to do is fucking hell no I don't Grouch you won a lot though you won a lot outside I think what I was trying to get at was more, you know, is there anything at all that you haven't done yet?
2:58Yeah, that's a good deal. Okay, I can see you go with that now. Do you see what I mean? Yeah, is there anything you want to do that you haven't done or is there anything that is, yeah? Oh, God. I never really think, like, mad into the future. Obviously, I mean, to be in the conversation around, like, the Grammys or something like that would be... Yeah. That would be... Yeah, there's a difference between being intro'd as Niall Horne and being intro'd as Grammy-nominated Niall Horne. Okay, yeah. You know what I mean? Just to be in the... You know when you go on a chat show and they're like... That is nice.
3:30It's a nice touch. I'd love that, yeah. I just... Yeah, that'd probably be the thing I'd love to do, yeah. Is that like your Ballon d 'Or then? Yeah. The vision of like Michael out in early doors or Cristiano Ronaldo, Lionel Messi, the Grammys is the Ballon d 'Or of music. Yeah, basically, isn't it? Yeah, or the World Cup of music, yeah. I love it well look I think there's lots of similarities between the two I've got to ask a question because I'm an into my golf as well yeah we still have to play yeah yeah have you two not played together yet no we've organised it we've sorted it now we're going to play I just want to see this putting stroke from it for myself I've modified it have you I've modified it yeah I've had to do you get clubs your own land yeah like it's none of it is what you do you know it's none of it is conventional but um you know my football wasn't conventional and that went okay you know my golf's not conventional uh none of it looks right but um my putting technique has to he's had i mean i used to i used to do that have you seen the picture i used to do the pendulum but i've had to i've had to refine it because basically if it was not standing on the putting green i'd have to go to people um this is our part laugh now yeah and then we'll we'll get over it yeah because i don't want you laughing on my back swing, you know?
4:47But it's slightly better now. But obviously, you've got a management company and obviously, it's doing great. Yeah. It's amazing. And obviously, it looks like you're doing things right. You know, you're taking it seriously and you've got some good golfers. Yeah, we've got some great golfers. We've had quite a few wins over the last few years as well. We've got 13 players, basically half and half men and women. And yeah, we have our own event on the European Tour as well, which is same price fun for men and women in the same tournament which is like the first of its kind in Europe which was brilliant we got players like Tyrell Hatton and nearly won at the weekend and then we got like just on the Tyrell Hatton thing I did I tell you I tried a golf lesson you know you're trying to get me into golf a little bit Tyrell Hatton was it?
5:32well Tyrell Hatton's dad it turned out what? no but it's really bad speaking capital we're paying him too much Tyrell Hatton as his coach I'm just sorry just reminding me just on a catch-up thing I had a golf lesson one right so I turned up I was a bit nervous because I really want to get into it now because you know what I'm trying to like I've got kids now and I just want to be in a better place in my life I can enjoy my weekends a bit and do all that right and so Crouch is like get into it get into it you know we can play some golf you know the ambition so I went along for this one lesson turns out it's Tillhatton's dad right Jeff good on Jeff so I've turned up at his house so I'm a bit suspicious about the whole set-up anyway because I'm like well how am I playing out of a sort of semi-detached in, I won't say what.
6:14Oh, he's got the thing in that house, hasn't he? He's got a garage with a simulator in, right? So I go in, he looks at me, takes one look at me, like, I pick up one club and he looks at me and goes, I can't teach you. And I was like, what? Like, my missus has bought me golf lessons. Like, she bought it for me. I was like, I can't teach you. I was like, why? He goes, you're a lefty, aren't you? And his simulator wasn't set up for a lefty at the time. So I had to leave. and like my only experience of having a golf lesson has been horrendous oh my god Jeff you need to get you need to get a left handed simulator it was like we can practice without the clubs but I was like that's not going to go anywhere is it not even involved visualise just air oh my god so you actually left so I left mate I've not done one since no way that is so good I'd love to get into it yeah you should keep it going do you think I should like is it especially when you when you have kids as well it's like it's the best I love my children but I also like getting away from them you know what I mean and like going out in the middle of nowhere for four hours with your mates phone in the bag you know phone away couple of beers after you know you compete it's a good game yeah and everyone can play different levels can play against each other you know like a 20 handicapper can play with a 6 and still be you know like it's I just love it I used to like I always use it as the great escape you know like when there's madness going on just being able to just go something especially especially for someone like you right you play you know whatever you play and there's fans everywhere and then you go out on a golf course and just get left alone with your pal have you ever found a fan in the bunker or something with a camera no no definitely not no imagine I've seen you actually I'll take that back actually remember one year we went to Australia and we'd go to Australia in their summer so playing like Jan Feb we'd always tour Australia and it was mad obsession with news crews and helicopters and anywhere we went these like you'd see Channel 9 News and decided it or the helicopter and it would be coming down to the point where the balls would be moving on the green remember we were playing playing golf and then we were on this par 3 and it was close to the road like you know in the corner holes and we went over and I could just see five or six like local news cameras in the bushes behind us me and Harry anyway it was myself Harry and our photographer at the time and the three of us hit the worst shots you've ever seen but we said before we'd hit it we pretend we all got a hole in one just for the news did he make the news yeah of course we had that we had that before the world cup I remember playing at the world cup and before the world cup and there was people in the bushes and stuff and that's where the putting picture came from is that what that is yeah some little rat in the bush I was like that obviously with the pendulum and I've turned I've heard loads of clicking I thought what's going on I turned around I went no I'm not going to play it anything else oh I was going get me doing a drive or something I was going that's going viral take that again delete them I'll do something else let me do something else you know like I was thinking you know with a with as a footballer when you're touring as a footballer like you'll have a you know a set routine with your meal before say a gig or a match and also when you were touring you know as footballer i remember you get on the plane and you sometimes you don't you just don't even know where you are you just like you get there you see the hotel yeah you're back on the bus you're at the airport and you're gone yeah is that the same when you're gigging yeah there can be i've always like said to myself from day one that i was going to try and stay like as present as i'd like you know i love traveling the world i love the especially when you tour europe you're waking up in a different city every day with a different language like you'd go to bed in germany and wake up in Sweden and it'd be a completely different place that stuff is where I love it it's incredible different looking crowd everything but like I try and do like get into a bit of a routine on tour I get up in the morning do half a workout or play around the golf in the morning or something then come back and have a bit of food and then pre-gig actually on the last tour we basically people asked us what's on your rider and we were like we need two bike racks and they're like what?
10:34you know those like racks at the front of like a gig you know down the front and they were like why is that so we would chalk out like a foot tennis thing in the car park at whatever gig we were playing and myself and the band and the tour manager that's what we'd do right up so you're good at that head tennis yeah you've got the table for that I've got a tech ball yeah so you're going to get you around for a tech ball game and then I kind of treat the pre-gig like a night out like I try and like I always have a shower even if I had one like three hours previous to that. Just before? Yeah, just before.
11:07Same as me, yeah, I do this. And even like brushing my teeth and spreading myself. Yeah, I do. I do, I did that. And then just like treat it as we're going on a night out, get together with the band, have a little jam and like try and get each other hyped up, listen to tunes. Do you have a kip in the middle of the day? So like, say you get up early, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's like as a footballer. Like a late game. I think this is men's fault. He thinks it's insane. He thinks it's madness. Can you imagine a whole Liverpool squad having a little nap? and Benitez talking him in yeah yeah Peter go to sleep 3 o 'clock do you do that or not?
11:40do you know what once I'm up I'm up I remember doing I'm going mates with Robbie Keane and I remember doing soccer the first year with him and in the daytime I went into his room and he had two single beds in it and he just he walks in he's like come in here we'll have a chat and a cup of tea a biscuit before I knew it he'd like close the curtains and he was asleep he was like tucked up in the corner I said what's this fella doing you know what it's what they do it becomes the norm doesn't it you know like for me I was I mean at Liverpool we'd have a Champions League game we'd have AC Milan on you know at quarter to eight but we'd me and I'd always room with Steve Finnin Irish boy and then we'd just get in a little single bed at Melwood at the training ground and then I'd say night Steve and he'd be goodnight goodnight John boy I think it's a mental what is it is it like post lunch nap is it like you know what and then you come honestly when you wake up you go down you have a shower and that and then you're like right and you're pumped you know sometimes I'd be so nervous in the early days of England like I'd be so nervous I'd be sitting there like in lying in bed and I'd just go oh like we've got say Spain at Old Trafford later and I'd be like going well I could just stay in here and like and no one would no one would know and like I'd have no nerves and like I wouldn't fuck up and like it'd be so I could just yeah you know like sometimes you go like you don't want to go to work or something I'm going like I'll cut a face you know would you get like mad mad like how nervous are we talking yeah like early days early days really really like nervous hey it's Paige from Giggly Squad you already know once I'm in my jammies I'm in my final form and lately my last step before fully clocking out is the cover girl jammy lip sleeping mask.
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FROM THE VAULT: In this clip, Niall Horan sits down with the lads to reflect on the surreal rise from “wonderkid” expectations to global superstardom with One Direction, and the unique pressures that come with being compared to icons like The Beatles.
Niall opens up about how there was “no blueprint” for handling that level of fame, especially when breaking America at such a young age, and recalls the exact moment he realised just how big things had become.
The conversation dives into the realities of life on tour, from the chaos of constant travel to staying grounded and present while performing across the world. Niall also shares his ambitions beyond music — including what a Grammy nomination would mean to him — and how he measures success in an industry often compared to football’s biggest prizes.
Away from the spotlight, Niall explains how golf became his “great escape” from fame, offering rare moments of peace away from fans and media frenzy. With funny behind-the-scenes stories, reflections on pressure, and honest insight into life at the top, this clip reveals a side of global stardom few get to see.
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