EP. 394 | Danny Dyer Gets BRUTALLY Honest: West Ham’s Decline, Fake Big Club Fans & Spurs Relegation

0:00Chris Stark: Hello and welcome to that Peter Crouch podcast. Me, Peter Crouch, Notorious This ID and Chris Stark are with me. Many happy returns, Chris. It's your birthday this week. Thank you, yeah. Have a nice week? It was good, yeah. And thank you for your lovely messages as well. Was good. Yeah, I must admit, it was good. What was it? Hammer down? Yeah, yeah. A few drinks or go now? Plenty of lasagna. Was that? Yeah. Yeah. Homemade? Oh, yeah. I saw a picture of your missus cooking your lasagna. yeah it's our thing isn't it yeah yeah and i've got some good lasagna but it was my birthday yeah of course once a year it was uh it was a lovely birthday it was a lovely birthday and i got a lovely surprise uh we had the pussycat dolls i saw they were in yeah yeah on the show they were reforming in honor of my birthday of course Have they?

0:57Chris Stark: They have reformed because of you. On my birthday. Did you know they was coming in to the studio? You mustn't... I didn't. Well, no, I knew that we had a special guest because last year on my birthday, Big John turned up with some breakfast. I saw that. You don't think you can top that, really? Well, not. How can you? It's a bit of an upgrade. So Thursday was my birthday. I got a lovely message from you both, but you were going to Cheltenham that day. Incredible. You sent me a message saying the helicopter's leaving in an hour if you can get there we mentioned it on here and I realised you hadn't mentioned it again I said you know we're available I know I love this coolest message I've ever received up pops Peter Crouch chopper's leaving in an hour if you can make it how's life got to that fucking awesome get to the chopper it's unbelievable save that because we'll talk about Cheltenham in a bit, all right?

1:57Chris Stark: But just sticking on the phone network vibe, we've got this from Josh Jackson. He says, good day, gents. I imagine he's Australian. Greetings, yeah, Leeds fan in Australia. Love it. Regards to your families. All this recent mobile network talk got me thinking about when the pod was naming 11s. So here's my attempt at some players for a mobile network 11. There's some crackers here, right? Sandro Otonali. Sky Abbott. Sky Abbott. Jamie Vardy. Yeah, I like that. Doogie Threeman. That's a Doogie Threeman. It's like, you know what you on? Oh, I'm a Doogie Threeman. I'm a Doogie Threeman. James Beattie.

2:50Chris Stark: Yeah. James Beattie. James Beattie. And Paul Tesco's. oh that's good there's some crackers there that is good I had Tesco Mobile in the DMs last week actually they snuck in didn't they did they really yeah talking of 11s I did I think you guys got tagged in this one did you see the woman in McDonald's with the captain's armband on oh yes this is so good so for the listeners yeah there's a picture of a woman actually in the McDonald's kitchen and she's she's wearing a captain's armband on her right arm but it's the names isn't it can you rattle through some of these well underneath that first one is Killian McFrappay Killian McFrappay I love this really

3:41Chris Stark: we got Dimitri Frye

3:47where's that one that's the best one Pep Guardacola Guardacola Oh my God. There's a view, yeah. Big McAllister. There's a view. I reckon there could be more of these that's going to come.

4:01Chris Stark: Alexis Big McAllister. Big Archie Cray. Oh, my God. Oh, there we go. Sir Alex Burgesson. Sir Alex Burgesson. It tickled me this. It did tickle me. I come for the comments. Huge respect for her, though. Putting on the captain's armband in any job is massive, isn't it? I suppose that's the equivalent of them wearing the five stars or the badges they used to get in collecting. I've never understood the McDonald's rating. I don't know. You know, like when they sit on the board, if you think about McDonald's, they're quite similar to football in lots of ways. They still have a player of the month on the wall.

4:37Chris Stark: They have a player of the month on the wall. Like you say, there's captain's armband there. They've got the little stars, I think, for how many... Yeah, how many Champions Leagues they've won. It must be how many places they've worked at or something. Do you? what else would the stars be yeah I don't know when you've got like a little few like yeah like the stars like European cups they line up before every shift and do the anthems yeah yeah do you know what I mean there all line up I'm loving it if anyone works at a McDonald's that's listening if they can get their team to line up with the Champions League thing that goes across the whole team yeah that's if we can get that done and get in touch and explain to us the star rating.

5:23Yeah. But big fan of that. I think all jobs should have a captain. Do you know what I mean? It's different to the managerial role. I think every job has a captain. Be that person on site listening to this right now. It's not your boss, but it's the, there's always one. Yeah. Slap an armband on them.

5:40Chris Stark: A hundred percent. We've talked about this before, about like, why does any football have caps? I mean, there might be someone there that, you know, made two, two and a half thousand caps at the target roundabout. Yeah. it's true a lot of the messages we're now a lot of the messages we're now getting into the podcast are like people's appearances and caps lots of people get in touch with that yeah no I've been at Screwfix for 860 caps Target Roundabout is massive though isn't it it's some Mackies well that's the top Mackies that one because you're in and out in seconds yeah do you know what I mean yeah what's your favourite Mackies just out of interest favourite Mackies Cobham Services is a good one but it has to go in for me it's only drive-thru option that's a good question London Colney McDonald's oh yeah it's good that is good because you're seeing some of the world's best footballers popping in there like it's mental yeah a lot of training grounds it's unbelievable positionally as well just off the motorway yeah you see is it drive-thru though I don't remember my original one was Alperton just down just off the 406 just on Hangar Lane but I've been blessed you know because I had you know Target roundabout Alperton Beckinsville just so so convenient you know Target what I like is when you're going down the motorway it's almost poetic you see you round the corner and you're still a good sort of two mile away or something like that and you see that M in the distance it's like they've poked it up high it's the accessibility for me you know like you've seen it well early straight off the slip road straight off the slip road and straight into the drive through straight back on you know one of those where what does me what forgot places like that you're off and bastards for a while you know ages you know those ones where they make you go down the road for ages yeah that's not really that's not really a service station no we've talked about it before but definitely worth bringing back up very briefly if you're out at night and and you see a Mackie's you should not be allowed the light on if you are not open yeah false advertising that light should go off like a taxi get it on the board that's a government that's a government issue that false advertising do you know what I mean they're getting away with murder there come off and end up in you know wimpy the amount of times I've been DJing say a Friday or Saturday night and you're going long journeys and you're coming off the road there and you turn up at services and they're doing night pay only in the petrol station bullshit and you say well why have you let your M up yeah yeah it shouldn't be allowed I had a I had a McDonald's in America once and do you know like when you're in the theme park and it just smashes down with rain we was in I don't know where it was so we had to leave it was like it wouldn't stop so we left we was drenched so we got in the car stripped off into the boxes and the kids were in the back you know just literally in their pants whatever and then wife's got like a bikini top on and a pair of jean shorts and then everyone was hungry so we rocked up at Mackey D's drive-thru drive-thru with no gear on yeah no gear on the woman who served I'll never forget her face she lived in this car as if it was mental but it was the best chocolate milkshake we've ever had even now I say to the kids best chocolate milkshake they go McDonald's in America really yeah they know it wow yeah different vibe it just reminded me of yeah it's funny how they have weird things in different countries as well you know the Macarena An El Spicio or something.

9:17Chris Stark: You know what I mean? Yeah. Patatasar's brother since Bain. Mud. Game's gone. That'll be up. Okay, and actually, getting to Danny Dyer.

9:31Chris Stark: Right, Danny Dyer. Thank you for coming on. Thanks for having me, boys. Yeah. I'm here because this is the biggest, one of the biggest sports podcasts out there, son. Well, we like to think of ourselves as football heritage. I know this from my PR lot. Yeah, yeah. so this is the one to be on do you know I want to be a guy North's going to do Paddy's one but couldn't be fucked and also this is bigger I'll say that as a compliment thanks for having me honestly you know absolute pleasure and you're a busy man at the moment we work together on various Paddy Power stuff I quite like it the busiest gazes in the country yeah mate me and you know each other a little bit you know for my little Paddy love Paddy shout out to Paddy Power yeah they seem like a good crack team good fun They know the adverts and stuff.

10:15They know what they're doing. Love their adverts, tongue in cheek. Yeah, it's good fun, right? Yeah, and don't take themselves too seriously, like we don't, so it works. It's a lovely little collab, so yeah, so good to be rap man on this very professional setting.

10:30Chris Stark: So you've got to talk us through your film, One Last Deal, right? Right. Talk us through that. You say you're playing a football agent, and the way you're playing this football agent is, it reminds me of a lot of agents that I've been around. Well, I think they've run the game now, agents, don't they? They're such a powerful force. And there's an argument to say, not very nice people. I mean, agents are there to look after their client and their client only, so they never really have an affiliation with the club they're playing for. And you feel like contracts, it doesn't mean fuck all now. You sign a six-year contract.

11:04It's like, well, if the player gets the ump, it'll go anyway. So I suppose really it's... the point of the film is I'm the only one in it. So this is why I was attracted to it because I thought, I got sent it, it was 120 pages, it's just me in a fucking room on my own. And I read it and I thought, this is so good. It's like this geezer has the worst day of his life, right? And he's, you know, he's been a snake throughout, you know, it's all starting to come back to him a little bit now. So I read it and thought, I love it. And then I thought, can I fucking do it? And I think the only reason I'm going to know is if I say yes.

11:39so we shot it 10 days straight in Dublin and it's just me in a room. It's like an episode of Twilight Zone. He just has the worst day of his life and he's just out of rehab so he's lost a lot of clients because he's got one client left and this one client is like Harry Kane. He's the best player. He's the top scorer in the league, right? It just happens to be, it's quite relevant as well, that on the same day this player has got a court case, he's got a trial for rape now my character who don't care about all that who's sort of tampered with the evidence and stuff like that he's just got to get him this five year deal and get him as much read as he can and pray that obviously the trial cut and he gets off right so again no morals this man but it's really clever the way it pans out and I don't want to give too much away but I had to keep it interesting hold the screen for an hour and a half every character's in it it's on the end of a blower so it's my job to make them sort of feel alive as well so they cast other people when we did it on the day I came in I turned up put my little earpiece in because obviously when you're on the phone you have an earpiece so that you can hear the other actor never met the other actors that were doing it they was in a tent somewhere come in get me a bit of clobber and I go hello baby getting on yeah lovely would you have a breakfast and I like small talk and then we start acting 15 pages a day and it was a real test for me man but was it a reminder for yourself as well about, because everyone's got to love Danny Dyer and everyone's got to, or feels like they know you, bit of a national treasure.

13:13Well, if you look on Facebook, mate, there's a lot of cunts that hate me. Maybe, maybe. But is this a reminder of what, like, your game is? Sometimes we can underplay the, or forget the skill of certain players because of their character. Do you think this was a reminder of why Danny Dyer's a great actor? Well, I don't know. Listen, I'm just like everyone here. I'm trying to ply my trade. I've been doing it for a long time, feeding me kids, having a nice life. That's it, really. I've never said I'm a fucking genius or a brilliant actor or whatever. I think what makes you a good actor is getting hired.

13:50So there are people out there that say I only play myself and all that, but over a period of three decades, there are plenty of directors and producers want me to be in their stuff because they think I can do the job for them. So that's all I'm doing. I'm ply my trade for as long as I possibly can. So I'm now in a position where I've got fame and a profile. So I get offered jobs now. And this was something where I thought, how many opportunities are you going to get to sit in a room on your jack and try and bring this character to life? Now, you hate him at first. My job is, can you give a fuck about him towards the end?

14:19Because it comes on top. He buckles early with a booze. First bit of adversity, he gets the whiskey out. So now I've got to start playing drunk from about halfway. He sucks off two bottles of whiskey by the end. He's absolutely dishevelled. We have to deconstruct him. In the first scene, he turns up. He bowls in the office. He's got a three-piece suit on, braces, cufflinks. It looks the nuts. As it goes on, we had to lose the tyre. You know what I mean? The brace has got cufflinks. We had to very carefully see that this man is deteriorating before your eyes. So it really was just another test for me to go, can I do it?

14:54Now, I'm not good at accents, never have been. If this character was Irish, I'd have been fucked. so it was about me going I can draw on all my experience and the things that you know what people like me as an actor and bring it to life and be interesting and and what is an actor is someone who's I'm a salesman I sell words I sell sentences and that sounds like a weird thing to say but I'm going I'm going to speak now do you want to listen to me and there's plenty of people that don't and they'll turn me over other people are engaged in it so it's just about the the the rhythm and the musicality of sentences and words is what we do as actors we sell it you know i'm getting off me nut there look yeah yeah just we've just got a little clip of you now the braces whose idea were the braces well we were at several row and you know i mean it wasn't a big budget but obviously i'm the only actor in it so they had a bit of dough for me clobber uh nutty pair of strides i'm not gonna lie but um uh yeah we've done it all proper like we thought this is a proper agent he's worked a few quid you know it's all about how you look and everything so yeah they propagated me out mate and like I said one outfit with a nice little sort of suede loafer and this is the scene where I think everything's going to be sweet I've pulled off this deal right it's going to go tits up but so I get off me nuts and start dancing to Three Lions this was they didn't play a tune during the day they didn't know what tune they were going to get so I just had to dance to nothing you're doing this to nothing no you can't do that

16:19Chris Stark: you did that to nothing I'd do nothing. I'd have to get home a bit. There's a bit where I played a ukulele and they sent me a ukulele. I thought, fuck, I've got enough on me plate. I said, I've never played an instrument. I said, well, you know, there's this thing, go online and I went online, looked at it. I said, listen, can we make it the most simple fucking tune ever written? And then basically I just sing, you put the lime in the coconut and drink the fucker down. And I'm playing a ukulele. And, you know, it's like a little ditty sort of, you know obviously he can't really play the Yulele but I've sort of done it a little bit and I think it's just another task innit but again it's sort of going into the football world for sure and about how snakey agents can be I'm sure you know you know how it works but it's also about a man who's struggling with addiction and you know a man who's estranged from his wife now he doesn't really see his kids he's give up everything for the pound note he's driven by the dollar and he comes unstuck so I'm very proud of it I've probably got a wave of shit coming my way there'll be a few critics I fucking hate it but I'm here brassing myself off so that people know about it and are aware of it and if you fancy going down if you're a fan of mine you'll love it like I said don't fucking swerve it you say are we a fan of you right Football Factory in the business for me there's not many films I watch multiple times strong bit of work multiple times those two for me are like are incredible brilliant young gun then you know Nick Love I did Marching Powder with recently you know it's great right you've worked with him a lot yeah we've done five films together now so you know Football Factory was really sort of like the first we started off whether that's a good or bad thing that hooligan genre you know Green Street came out shite I watched ID before that ID was good ID was good but I was delving more into sort of an undercover cop and all that so whereas this is actually just about the culture and about you know back in the day youngies it's all tribalism and it's a shame I had to be a Chelsea headhunter.

18:21I still get a bit of grief over that, but it was based on a book, brilliant book, Football Factory, and it's just, and also it's clever what they've done, because I'm a hooligan who's questioning it. Yeah. I'm going, do I want to be running about nutting people on a weekend? Do you know what I mean? It's like, he's a bit psychic in it. It's a bit weird. He keeps having these dreams about he's going to die, and so, you know, we added that element, and of course the moral bit is, you know, I say, was it worth it? And of course, classic Nick Love, I go, of course it fucking was. back into the fray but it wasn't apologetic about it we're not glamorising it we're just saying there's something about that sort of Saturday afternoon back in the day geezers getting together go and have a chair up half of them are all pals head of the different firms they bring each other up and then have a lager after it's just sort of just sort of delving into that culture and I think we really hit something they're very low budget listen real hooligans in it you know what I mean we don't have no extras in it everyone in most of the geezers in that was on tag like we had to finish filming at a certain time.

19:15So they can fuck up and they got nicked. So I think it was authentic. And that was the key to it. You go, fucking, I've never seen nothing like this before. And then the business obviously was Nick's second go. And he thought, well, you know, I want to make a proper gangster film. And Nick really, what he's done is he's took every sort of gangster film that, you know, he's ever loved. And that's what filmmakers do. They get inspired by other pieces of work. And really it was a sort of Cockney gangsters running about in Spain, looking all sexy. And again, a character who's questioning it, should he be doing it is he part of this firm you know and the music I'm real in it

19:48Chris Stark: I listen to the soundtrack like sometimes in the car yeah it's amazing mate because we had the Rockstar Games behind us Rockstar we do Grand Theft Auto they love us they produce our films and so their back catalogue of music is fucking unbelievable they give you all the tracks for free so music's very important to films it's almost like a character an unseen character but the best films you've ever watched you don't realise it's half it's down with fucking music yeah I genuinely like that you know when Tomo's got he's got the club yes yeah and then I think there's a couple of tunes in there where I'm like oh my god when he's getting noshed off yeah hanging on a string that's true oh my god straight in what an introduction oh no it's basically some sort of the attire isn't it well like the track suits and that one as well we brought all that back yeah there's a lot of people wearing a lot of eddies on the back of now the old surge and the feel of stuff you know the velour yeah I mean I couldn't get them fucking shorts on there little tennis shots but yeah it was good days man and good era for films I felt well you know do you see that obviously being a West Ham fan like when you were a kid and stuff coming through going to the games do you see any of that because I used to go to Chelsea when I was a kid and there was a it was that nasty element around it and obviously you know with England as well there was a problem right and when I was a kid there was it was a huge problem right and then I suppose Did you see any of that as a young boy?

21:11Chris Stark: Of course I did, yeah. I mean, I was brought up in a place called Custom House. Tough area. Right on the docks. It went next to Canning Town. So there's always violence in the air anyway, do you know what I mean? So, you know, with West Ham, I suppose, it filters into that a little bit. And it is, again, going back to tribalism, and this is our area. And listen, we've always been sort of shit, West Ham. And, you know, that's why I so miss Upton Park. I mean, it was a gaff, Upton Park. And it really was, you know, the fabric. Well, yeah, we played there. Well, you know he's all only playing notes and they would be a bit excited about it, but you'd fear it.

21:43But it's like, this is the thing for me. I think the club chooses you, right? All these fucking people that support clubs, they shouldn't be. Support the team you're meant to support. Unfortunately, you're not a scouser, right? Especially people that support Liverpool, that are not from Liverpool. I don't understand it. I just think you'll never, like you can choose who you want to support, but I just don't think you'll ever have that real feeling of standing in a stadium where everyone speaks the same. It's like being a West Ham fan. Everyone sort of half knows each other. And these big clubs come to your ground to try and nick three points off you.

22:14And most of the time they would. But now and again, you'd have a fucking win and it feels beautiful. It's running through your fucking veins. And if you're a fucking Cockney Red, you're never going to feel that. How can you be singing songs in Old Trafford about Cockney North and all that? It don't work for me. I've always sort of struggled with it. Nothing worse than two Cockneys, one Man United, one Liverpool, arguing over their rivalry. I go, the fuck is this? their rivalries about the docks back in the day it runs it runs deep it's about work and about social climbing and and the fact that they're sort of hating each other for no reason you go like you know go and support fucking Goldchester that's who you're meant to support so I just I find it fascinating it's all a bit weird at the moment with that innit because they have come unstuck now because obviously I understand why you'd be a glory and a support man United back in the day having a little run at the moment but you go well how do you want to be The whole bit sounded like the start to a new film, didn't it?

23:08Yeah, it did. I enjoyed that. You'll love our games. No, it's passionate.

23:12Chris Stark: So we got games gone for it. You know, we had Harry Wilson on last week, and he came in and said, the VAR in the Wrexham-Chelsea game, because obviously he's from Wrexham, and he signed it, he was fuming about it. We just did woke deadline days. Woke deadline? The problem is, you know, deadline day now is that they don't, they do it from within the gates. You know, before, the reporters used to be outside the gates. Okay. You'd get something in your ear, you know like you'd get a bit of grief there'd be some colourful language yeah so now it's all like moved on that's what we're saying yeah okay is there anything that pisses you off I suppose what plastic well I've just said well just support the club you meant to support the club chooses you you know what I mean I was born a minor half away from the ground always would have been pony I mean we had a good run in the 80s the boys of 86 and stuff like that but in general I've accepted the fate that West Ham you know they're going to break your heart a lot but it's me manner you know what I mean it's where I'm from that's why I support that club do you know what I mean so I think people supporting unless you come from a place like I don't know fucking Jersey or something I don't think they've got a team but I think every area has got a club of some sort unfortunately you might be down in the doldrums you're not always going to be Premier League but they need it but also I think it's passed down through your dad right you may be or your mum if you've got a scourced dad maybe that's an exception to the rule you know what I mean sometimes like you say you might move away as a family but you know for instance you moved away you know your boy or your whatever there's still support in West Ham I would have thought so I mean my son's not into football too he's into rugby mad so I'm now learning about rugby I never really liked rugby I took him training I took him to a little football club purely for my sake and I realised as soon as he touched the ball I thought oh fucking hell he's got nothing about him like he's fit as a fiddle you know what I mean he looks the part and they just weren't enjoying it it's great you admit that because I think some dads struggle to do that.

25:04I had two daughters and I finally had a son and I think in my night you want to stand on the sidelines and watch a boy play football. You know, it didn't work out for me. Anyway, he's playing a rugby team now, Edmund and Claptons, shout out. And he had a game the weekend. He's a left winger. He's fucking good at rugby. He's learning and I'm learning. Are you enjoying it? Yeah, I do. I love it. It's a proper sport rugby, by the way. Talk to me about the fans though because they're chalk and cheese to football fans, aren't they? What do you mean? Like in the sense of the rugby lot and the... The rugby fans I'm not sure all the rugby dads hate football

25:32Chris Stark: yeah well this is my problem so every time I go like I watch rugby or I go up into Twickenham a few times you know that they're always that everyone wants to tell me how shit football is they dive around they roll around all the time it ain't a real sport they got no yeah they're like you know the way they talk they swear get what they're saying a little bit but I also understand that at a rugby match you can have a lager mate and watch it yeah but you can have a lager with the away lager exactly right so it says a lot and you've got to think this is an aggressive sport by the way if anyone should be kicking off in the stands it's a sport where they're smashing at each other and it's not it's a gentleman's sport and a real team sport and all like you know what I mean they're all out on that pitch looking up at each other some boys are bigger than others my boys are skinny so he's on the wing you know what I mean he's lively whereas you know there's a few lumps in the middle you know what I mean and they're like in the scrums you know however you're built is where you're going to plot so I'm learning about it they don't do conversions yet he's under 12s so you know it's great and it's something to get him off his iPad had on his playstation and get a bit of fresh air in his lungs and you know like yesterday he had a game they beat up Minstark it's up there you know he's still you know that tackle I can tell he's a bit because he's a winger he has to wait for the ball a lot so I'm standing he's cold you know what I mean it's like you know he's not in the middle of it so but he's been patient and they don't like passing it right out do they because you've got to go again get it out to that wing and then he can bomb they all want to run back into trouble and score a try so I'm learning love them all though I've got to say love all the dads and the mums there all piss heads I'll give you that love a Guinness nice clubhouse 11 bells in the morning everyone's on the Guinness I thought what a guff this is Danny Dyer and rugby yeah great so it's been West Ham obviously difficult season this year but you seem to be getting by I think you're getting by it's looking better now chance sort of going back to what I was saying someone's been hard about being a West Ham fan we had three years we had a lovely little run in Europe and you know winning that fucking cup I mean what was that like for you just before we get into this at the moment what was the conference league like for you to win were you there that's the nature of it because it's my boy that gets the winning goal you know so it couldn't have gone any better I couldn't have wrote a better script getting the 90 second minute it's like all the Rovers stuff get slipped in one on one I'll tell you something now Jared one on one he fucking puts it in every time mate his decision making is unbelievable so of course it was amazing I was doing Soccer Raid that year so they had the final in Prague in a 15 ,000 fucking seat of stadium, which I think is outrageous.

27:59So I knew if I'd have gone out there, because I started the training the next day and I've always wanted to do soccer raid, I knew I wouldn't have got back from Prague. So I thought I want to experience the whole thing. So I watched it indoors with loads of pearls and when he scored that goal, I mean, I was about eight stellas in, but I sobbed my heart. I rung up Danny and I went, have you seen what he's done? She was like, oh, I know, Danny. I'm telling you, fucking hell. It was amazing. oh anyway so I had a session that night and then I got picked up and then we went and done the training for soccer raid the training the soccer raid is better than the game by the way you've done it no I've not done it never done it never asked you

28:35Chris Stark: no no no done it no fucking hell anyway you stay in Champions for four days they hide a whole gaffer and you just train with ex-pros and you know amazing people and you know it's a brilliant fucking charity anyway but to be part of it it's like so beautiful and so anyway so I had to elbow it But yeah, I turned up, you know, obviously we'd won the cup and everything. I'm like springing my step. I mean, listen, show me back West Ham because I've supported them so long. We're the only team that can win the cup and go backwards, other than Spurs. You know, it's like, it's just been, it's been bad recruitment.

29:07We let good players go. And I think that's the reason, isn't it, really? You know, it's just one of them things. And a lot of people hate the owners and, you know, they're not ideal. But what you're going to do, it's hard to get owners out of a club. I think once you sold our stadium, Upton Park, I think, again, I'll say it again, to lose that gaff and to change your crest. I mean, forever, I can never forgive him for that, honestly. But it's been the era of Jared. And unfortunately for Jared, he's been part of our greatest era and our worst. Yeah. Did you think too much put on him? For sure. I'll tell you something now.

29:42He's a captain. He was reluctant to be the captain. He's not that sort of player. But he's also a very brave man. if you get asked I think it was Lopetegu who asked him to be the captain you say yes either you shy away from it and he went well no of course I'll do it you know what I mean there was no one else that wanted to do it you've got to think with West Ham this is what it is with us we lost Mark Noble right who not the greatest technical player but someone who fucking loved that club and a leader in that dressing room we lost him then we lost Rice now these are two players you can't replace back to back and I felt for Moyes as well do you know what I mean because we won the cup and obviously he didn't fancy it Rice I do love him but you know we're always going to be that club we get people that are half decent we fucking sell them to other clubs when will that fucking change?

30:24I think the top six is changing slightly now because you can't call Tottenham a top six side when do we stop doing that bollocks? do you know what I mean? they're just not and I will say this as well about their fucking win because it was the conference cup let's have it right because that Europa League day one was the first time ever no Champions League team dropped in same as the conference they played Bodo Glynn in the fucking semi-finals right which is who we played as well so you go hold on a minute why is this the fucking Europa League and then they beat the worst Man United side ever by an own goal fucking worst final you've ever seen in your life and they're giving it all the bigging and all that bollocks

31:04Chris Stark: I'm getting the impression that you know if West Ham got out of trouble this year and Spurs got relegated oh fucking that'd be better than winning the cup would it really oh of course it would because it's the arrogance of Tottenham fans. That's arrogant. Well, it is because they can't believe they're in this position. They've never been in this position. They call themselves a top six side and they're not that good. And so actually, you know, you're there for a reason. And it's like none of them give a fuck either. We've found a little bit of form. I mean, how mad would it be for him to keep us up and Forrest go down, by the way?

31:35Oh, yeah. But I think we're just starting to find a bit of rhythm with Nuno. He's obviously, he's a good manager. Whereas the others are all over the gaff. I mean, look at Forrest. they've got great players but again changing managers all the time your leader good managers as well that's the thing well and in Tottenham of course just the injury list is awful but at the same time they don't give a fuck their players know if they go down they'll all fuck off same as this fucking Igor Tudor geezer who I love by the way I'm glad he's there because he's clearly pony right but again if they go down he'll fuck off and go well that really changed my life so they should have maybe gone for an ex-player someone who loves the club someone the fans love and appreciate and respect and then I think that would have got the fans on side but I can't see them getting a point from anywhere would they get the next point yeah

32:26Chris Stark: this is the issue for me I think sometimes when a team like that is in trouble you turn to the players that care about the club you know like and I think about when I played you know four spurs you look around at Robbie Keane and Jermaine Defoe it might not be right from the area Aaron Lennon and Tom Huddleston and, you know, players, Jermaine, Genis, people that you could tell, like Michael Dawson, he might not be from North London, but they care. Of course they do. You know, and you look around now and you think, like you say, with the West Ham thing now, Jared feels to me like he's kind of taken on that.

32:56Chris Stark: You know, the stands can resonate with him. Yeah, 100%. They go, he's one of us, even though he's not from, you know. Of course, yeah. But with regards to Jared and, you know, obviously him being with your daughter and stuff like that, I've got two daughters. What's the initial thing like? like you know like because I remember with me Abbey's a scale server dad's a massive Liverpool fan yeah so he was a bit I'm sure he was like nah my mates are going to rip me here oh what because when you was playing for Liverpool yeah because I was playing for Liverpool and then obviously I'm going out with your daughter he must have fucking loved it in old short he loves it now so if you'd have been pony at first he was like I'm not sure about this did you have any of that or not were you like nah this is great fucking joking it was weird because did you get with Abbey before you signed the Liverpool or did you get with I was up there I met her while I was up there yeah so we bought him from Hull and no one really knew who he was and Moyes got him and I remember he was demanding a big fee and we was like who the fuck is this geezer I remember he was haggling over this sort of deal and I swear I hadn't heard of him I didn't have a clue and we signed him and it was Covid so there was no one in the fucking grounds anyway and he was fucking unreal like he was just he just I was like fucking he so switched the decision making in football because he was he was on fire at Hull wasn't he he was on fire I remember they went down but he come into the team yeah and he'd done well for them but they were gone yeah but not like you know not a flashy player you know it was just one of them sort of grafter and so anyway he my daughter moved next door to him because obviously he was down and he was quite he was living with his mate and everything that's how they met but you know from the off he was like a proper player so I was like wow fucking hell when she brought him up I thought what a touch

34:54because not only that and I will say this is a lot of stuff said in the media and all that about me having a you know having a say in his career and he's like he's married to me daughter and he's the father of my grandchildren before anything else he's my family he's part of my inner circle so you know he makes his own decisions in life do you know what I mean it's his it's his career of course it is man he's very dedicated to it and and I think he it's been hard for him because he has been carrying us for a fucking long time so you can tell he's a bit shattered the pressure of it being a captain the fact we've had a fucking bad season nothing to do with him by the way I see the comments now and again on on line of these little twats or meant to be West Ham fans digging him out or he shouldn't be a captain or we'd be fucked without him I'll tell you something now he could potentially go on to be our greatest ever player and I'm talking about everyone going way back like he's almost our top scorer and he's already got most goals and assists ever from any player for the short amount of time he's been there and you know as footballers what is football it's you train all you want is you're in a theater with no script and he's fucking pure improvisation so it's that you received the ball what are you going to do with it and his decision making is fucking unbelievable he should be his agent danny well you see the film you're going to be fucking out no I'm only talking I know I might be slightly biased but it fucking winds me up he should be on the plane for the World Cup by the way both can be right both can be his talent that you're describing being true and you being proud of him the two don't have to live the numbers speak for themselves do you know what I mean I don't disagree with you

36:27Chris Stark: at all both footed scores with his nut and some of the goals he scored with his nut at Hanfield the diving header diving at Van Dyke's feet beating him to the bowl and nutting it bottom corner. You go, you couldn't put Saka up there to do that, right? Now there's a thing about Saka, because he's a sexy looking player and he's silky and all his bollocks. Look at his numbers this season. The fuck has he done? So why is he on the right wing definitely over Jared? I don't understand it because what you will get from Jared is a shift and he will definitely fucking put at least two beautiful balls across that box for someone on a plate.

37:00I'm guaranteed. He loves his little, you know, Maisie runs himself. So I just, and now there's like this Maduaki thing like he's second in line to Saka again I go the fucking geezer ain't scored in 25 games he will have his day Maduaki I think he's got real potential but Jarrod now nearly 30 give him his shot this is his last time to get on the fucking plane and I know for a fact he'll do a job mate and I think I just you know there's a little bit of politics there that I think do you know what I mean on merit a man you know they're fighting relegation and we're battling you know he's in a much worse side than Arsenal do you think a change of England manager helps his cause or not I think old Tommy Tickle does like him you know I think he likes his work rate and he's humble as fuck Gerard as well do you know what I mean never watches Match of the Day did you just watch Match of the Day if I played well it's only time you're on if you played well if I played well it's only time you're on I've found you around there watching yeah if I've missed a few you're out mind you mind you this season I've not been out to watch Match of the Day I've only been a couple of times obviously so

38:03Chris Stark: what do you think of England's chances World Cup you'd be out there at all in some capacity maybe if Jarrod goes if he's out there for sure but again we do it every fucking time don't we you know we start backing ourselves booking ourselves and I think Tuchel has got something about him for sure but we haven't been tested yet got our group to the fucking qualified it's like a load of shite do you know what I mean it was the half decent team in there was it Serbia yeah fucking shit we done 5-1 yeah so was it Lithuania who else was it like really all from fucking sides so really you know we should be walking all over then we need a test and that's when you'll start to know you know whether we've got something about us I mean look you know I'm looking forward to it of course bollicky kick off times one of them ones isn't it get you in for a team talk maybe for me that feels like the type of game especially from back here where you know say kick off it's fucking midnight and like one of them where I wake up in the morning and go did we win or lose you know one of those you know you either drank so much or you fell asleep yeah yeah so it's always good when it's a World Cup year and it's exciting we love it you know lots of football in the Turley so maybe if they take Jared fucking yes if they don't take Jared then no I like that right we got a couple of questions from some fans here we we've had loads of people coming go on firstly though before I ask that just favourite West Ham player of all time or give me the top three that you've seen?

39:35What I've seen? Fucking, I was going to put Bobby Moore in there, obviously. Yeah, but I thought, well, it's got to be Paolo Di Canio.

39:41Chris Stark: Yeah. For sure. Julian Dix was someone I used to love watching as well because no one fucked with him. We had Julian on the podcast and we were actually advertising the beer brand at the time and we said to him, Julian, do you mind just drinking this because we were, you know, promoted by these. So we asked him, yeah, he went like that. I said, what's it like? He went, that's not for me. I quite liked it no we kept it in because you know what it was like it's not through he's a lovely he's a really nice man to meet him real life on the pitch he was just fascinating the way he struck the ball he took our penalty was it Man United or he took the roof off left foot smashed it it's amazing and he was an old school throwback of a player I know he went to Liverpool for a bit and then he came back to us so I put him in there as well I do like Paya but I suppose the way he left us deserted leaves it slightly tainted but because I've been big and I've got to put Jared in there and all yeah of course of course well mate let's give you some great memories oh brilliant I mean I watch it and I'm an emotional man anyway but when he fucking scores especially when I'm over there fucking hell when he asked you for daughter's hand in marriage did you cry I was trying to give it a big and went on because he ran me up but really I was half begging him it's the first time he's done the other way it was cute he rubbed me up and asked me and he said oh I said course mate fucking hell and then she was like and then he went to me oh do you think she'll say yes I was going don't worry she'll fucking say yes no so it was very cute and old school doing it and all that sort of stuff so yeah man I'll put him in there just because he could go on to you know be if he stays of course you know top scorer of all time and all those things and you know I don't know whether we're in a cup again in my lifetime so you know that 92nd minute in Prague absolutely fantastic you know I was working I was in the Champions League final with TNT and then obviously Joe Cole and Colton Cole I love how you got a lot of that joke I didn't mean that I didn't mean that Joe and Colton were doing the game but they obviously you know they still love West Ham and you know and they obviously had gone out that night and I think they ended up with a team and they went all the way through did not sleep and then I think we were in Paris for it was the Liverpool Champions League I think it was and I was out there and these two rolled in I was like oh my god he said that was some night that see Joe Joe has to flip between Chelsea and West Ham Colton obviously he played with Chelsea as well but he's I think he works for West Ham doesn't he so he's he loves it he's difficult with Joe with Chelsea playing West Ham I know he loves the club and he's a great man Joe but what a player I got to play with him in Soccer Aid I mean what a fucking moment for me yeah yeah brilliant brilliant alright I've got a couple fan questions before you go go on then give it to me Right, Brad W.

42:33Chris Stark: Malloy. What's your favourite memory at Upton Park? Fucking hell. There's not many really, is there, because of the pain. I think there's a few really for different reasons. Really sad, that last game at Upton Park. Very emotional, but we beat Man United. That was a really magical... Fucking hated the fact we were leaving, but the fact that we won the way we did and everything. so that's up there and just because you know it was so emotional but going back to Pai I think him scoring a free kick against Palace in the FA Cup I don't think there's ever been a free kick like it since the way he hits the ball you couldn't get any more fucking top corner and he did it time after time I don't know if you remember it and he goes out and it's I've never better than Roberto Carlos when he bent it it was just so you know that was an amazing moment as well but it's been a long do you remember Pau de Cano's Davoli I weren't near that game Yeah.

43:28Chris Stark: It's such a kick. Yeah, unreal. Against Wimbledon, that was. So there's been some, you know, been some good times, but a lot of heartbreak really, do you know what I mean? But I've got that in there. Fair play. Lewis Quinn says, in your opinion, what's the best caravan site in England? Nuts Farm and Priory Hill lays down the Isle of Shelby. Anyone does want a chalet or caravan, Harry Wilson was asking. Do let me know because I am selling them. we have got a one for you here so Harry Wilson's granddad I don't know if you know he put a bet on him to play for Wales when he was 18 months old do you know that yes we were chatting to him last week and he said he said have you got anyone else I said yeah Danny he's coming on next week and he went can you ask him if he's got any good caravans it's twofold can you sort him out his granddad with a new caravan and the other one was would you consider telling his story in a film what whose story Well, I guess it's Harry Wilson's granddad.

44:28Slash Harry Wilson. How much did he win? It was two and a half thousand to one. Tell him what he got on it. And he retired on that. If you think about it, it's bollocks. They were 18 months. 18 months old. That should have been, what, 10 ,000 to one?

44:42Chris Stark: As William Mill was and Paddy Powell, was it? Paddy would have given you a good deal. I think that's interesting for sure. Probably slightly easier getting picked for Wales and fucking England. unbelievable that though mate it's a beautiful story so it's enough for him to retire for work and obviously and he's great and he's in the car event yeah yeah no listen get in touch mate and I'll talk to you right out I'll get you a lovely little van nice bit of decking on the sea great yeah lovely lovely okay just one here this is from Finley Chung really important question for us this one you might wonder why we're asking it but it's what phone network are you on?

45:23O2 O2 yeah I'm an old tuna you've been with them a while I can tell I don't think you changed here do you ever fucking change a lot of egg in it it's like your football club it's like Jarrett Bowen have you heard of Gif Gaff it's a ball egg innit changing it I've changed my fucking wifi before you ever fucking done that have you heard of Gif Gaff I've heard of it but what is it do you want to explain how do I explain this I've heard of it is it a phone network Gif Gaff it's just if you ever If you're reviewing your options, you should consider the benefits of moving to a gift gift. Go on, talk to me, go on.

45:59Let's give them a plug. I just think they're... What are they going to offer me at O2? Well, I think you probably, probably, don't really know how much you're paying per month. No, I pay me daughter's phone bills, and I fucking knows what that is. I still pay Danny, she's fucking 30. You can have her on some sort of data package, which means you've got full control of your... The thing is about the O2 turnout, is you can get free tickets for the O2. you get O2 priority do you really oh shit I never even thought of that so what's Gif Gaff got for you that's a fair question so I fucked it in I like the sound of it though Gif Gaff

46:33Chris Stark: yeah Vodafone I can't get the F1 anymore can I nah they're not doing that are they go on oh well okay do you think Spurs will go down yeah I do I do I think I can't see them getting out I don't know where to get their points from unless they fuck this Tudor geezer off I don't see what changes unless it'll be lovely is if Tottenham go down with Kudos Kudos who jumped ship fucked us off in a heartbeat see you later mate in the championship do you want to come back hold him a little bone out go do you fancy coming back boy we might suffer it I mean Kulisevski another one out the game you know big players and then you go unless they get any of them back and of course they're not going to make the grand running I can't see where they get their points from I reckon we've got at least another sort of eight points in us we have got City at home next but fuck City because they're not what they was and I think why can't we have a go at them I think the Liverpool game was rather flattering for them I think we played well against Liverpool the first goal we fucking scored it was his name in Kete is it fucking hell he brought the ball down he's fucking hit it as Mavropanos is lunging at the ball it goes slips right under his fucking leg it's a post and then you think you fucking lucky sorry sorry that's five minutes five minutes in I thought oh here we go a couple of their goals will deflect I thought we had a go at them as long as we have a go and we don't just sit back because he's made a lot of mistakes like that Nuneo with a sitting back and fucking going oh let's not conceive let's have a go so I fancy look we've got a few more points to nick where do they get there I think they've got I think they've got Liverpool away next time I don't know about Forest I mean you know but yeah I think I think they're gone can I ask one question on this one would if Spurs go down and you stay up would you like to see Millwall come up and play them in the Premier League or would you rather Millwall are always below the echelons no I've got to see Millwall come up yeah I've got a lot of Millwall friends and in research for my film Marching Powder all the boys in it and Millwall trying to go to a couple of Millwall games fuck it now did you get the little badge you know the fucking badge I put a cap on and I'll do this out of respect but fuck me I've got some shit over there did you get a lot of good fuck holes I'm a very famous West Ham fan I was with the right people so no one got tricky with me don't worry about that they won they won a couple of games you know it's a proper old school ground you know what I mean old school kind of mentality and fans so they've never been up have they?

49:05they've never done it so I'd like to see them up you know yeah and fuck tighten them up that's a good rivalry

49:13Chris Stark: do you know the deadliest men was there anyone when you did that is there anyone who genuinely really scared you?

49:23A mad show, that one, wasn't it? It's a right throwback, the idea of it and the concepts of it. No, there's a few tricky people in there, you know, it was hard to shoot that because there was a little journey I had to go on. So I always had to sort of pretend I was shitting me pants in the beginning. I've become a meme for that now, you know what I mean? You've got to build it up and fuck me, these keys are going to iron me out. Then I get to know them a bit, become a bit pally. that's the middle section like part two you know talk about cutting people's ear holes off and all that and sort of bond over that and then and then I also have a moment of a Jerry Springer moment where I've got to sort of sum them up and sort of so it's always like a little archery but all of them had wrote books you know proper people by the way they're not on the telly we all know them or we've heard of them they don't want to talk about it they don't write books on it so you know but you know there's a few that I've stayed in touch with that do come in handy now and again but it's a different kind of telly then, you know, it was, I think our single-handedly broke down the channel Bravo with some of my fucking, some of my shows, I'll hold my hands up.

50:32But listen, that's just been a whole podcast of quotes. They got me on the housing, got me on the property ladder, that show. Yeah. You know, so it was, I didn't really want to do it, you know, I'm not a journalist, I don't want to run around, you know, You give a lot away about yourself when you do them sort of shows. And, you know, I give a lot away about myself. And I think that's why maybe people sort of say about me, you know, playing myself and that. Because if you're quite a private person, you don't do a lot of interviews and, you know, people think you're a really good actor. But if you give a lot away, which is what I've done, give fucking everything away.

51:08There's nothing no one doesn't know about me. That's what I get accused of. So, you know what? I don't regret nothing, really, do you know what I mean? in a sense of, like I said earlier in this podcast, I'm just feeding me kids and earning a living, plying me trade. It's like a plumber would and an electrician would, like all of us. I mean, what would you say you're doing there? You're plying your trade, what are you, pundits, presenters. Fair point. I mean, I'm just trying to, you know, eat well, drink well, fuck off to the Maldives if you can. Yeah. Right? No, have a lovely holiday. Hopefully all your family have got their health and, you know, and live.

51:44And, you know, listen, there's a lot of bollocks going on in the world. You fucking put the news on for too long. You go fucking party. So eat, drink, live, love, earn readies. Fucking hell, mate. Fuck why you're in it. It's strong.

52:00Chris Stark: Danny Dyer, thank you very much. Thanks for having me, boys. Thank you. A bit heavy at the end, but thank you very much.

52:09Chris Stark: This part of the podcast is supported by Paddy Power.

52:16Chris Stark: Shambles

52:21Chris Stark: Okay I was good to chat with them actually With Paddy Power How was it? Wow They look after us Fantastically well As we mentioned previously I think obviously I went on the chopper Which was You know It's a bit hairy at times But It's a bit windy out of the day But we all got there Fine Great Got straight to the box And Paddy Power looked after us Very well All the You know I've seen Danny Dyer In the box with us and Chema Collins was in there. Yeah. Various other people. Jimmy Nesbitt was in there. Saw him some time. Ruby Walsh. Paddy himself. Yeah. What a great day. A few of my pals went down.

52:57Chris Stark: Yeah, apart from the fact, obviously, I got stitched up again and lost my bit with Paddy. Did see that, mate. But you know what? It gives me an opportunity to go down to the Guinness Village for a little bit. Things started brilliantly down there. It's lively down there, isn't it? Yeah, when I say lively, very lively. Really? And there's a lot of football fans down there, I noticed. because as soon as I arrived, there was people singing. And the songs were brilliant, actually. It started with There's Only One Peter Crouch. I thought, things can't get better. It ended with, you're shit, but your wife is fit.

53:26You're shit, but your wife is fit.

53:30Chris Stark: Which, you know, wasn't quite as nice, but it was all good natured. I love the top you're wearing as well, by the way. You know what? That's a collection by my family. They game-crashed Paris Fashion Week and did like those tracksuits. but like obviously they're taking a piss obviously out of Paris fashion week as they do but they're actually alright so you go down there if your horse doesn't come through you have to pay a British horse I have all the British horses and he has the Irish ones and he said he was saying to me yeah but you've got a chance this year and I actually believed it that's two years in a row and then you go down and then that's where I see the video of lots and lots of guineas yeah lots of people are like filming and there's a lot of stuff going on.

54:15Well, there are, yeah. You get caught on the racing TV. You get all of that. It's great because you sort of see you throughout the day. Yeah, I know.

54:22Chris Stark: It's just very busy, isn't it? And there's a lot of... It looks like you have to sink a pint later today. Yeah, yeah. I'm not really good at sinking pints. Like, I'll do it for the... It takes me a while. So, like, by... After a few seconds, it becomes a bit uncomfortable, doesn't it? Yeah, same. Do you know what I mean? You sort of feel like you should be better. Yeah. Because I like beverage in general. some people can just open up their gullet I'd love to be one of those yeah if I could be one thing in life I'd be an open gullet you're you what would you have been if you weren't a footballer an open gullet it is impressive though isn't it it is people do it in like seconds so you had a bit of a a bit of a break but you're back on the rocking horse now you're on the boost yeah I had a little break mate yeah I would like to say I'm back stronger my mate's 50th actually yeah it was Wolf of Wall Street themed yeah yeah well Ab went as Margot Robbie and I went as Leo did you really lots of other things as well but yeah we recreated that iconic pose which which pose I can just picture this already this should be your this should be your screen table you should have a ringtone and this should be your screen table oh it's not the the high heels on head one in the nursery oh it is for your eyes only that one yeah well close okay who suggested that who do you think suggested that

56:00Chris Stark: that's nothing to do about it that means she's even seen the film oh oh

56:11oh Oh dear. Brilliant. Unreal.

56:19Chris Stark: Okay, just getting to the football league now, guys. We're getting worse. We're getting shitter. But you know what? We went for a spell really doing well. Yes. It's a tough league, as we know. One point, that point was from Sid. It's squeaky bum time now. You know, you see people faltering top, bottom, all over the place, you know, so it's the same for us. Sid's just a one point there. Difficult results, I thought, this week. I mean who would have thought West Ham would have got anything against City and you thought Liverpool would have been all over Spurs so you wouldn't have thought that Spurs would have got one back especially late on as well Liverpool were over them they just couldn't really finish massive point with Spurs though I feel like I've been in the 50s for like weeks now I'd love to see how long have we been in the 1950s no I've been on the 50s 50 points for a long long time I need to get out I need to get into a 60 at least you're in there I'm three points behind now you're 59 55 Chris you're 48 you're not dead and buried it's not what is it that's not seven points seven points that is doable I don't know if it is I just can't see where I'm getting points it's the best league in the world it's the best league in the world this part I don't think it is that good a league right now this this our league our league nothing's changed for ages I feel like I'm adrift what are you what are you going to change up to what are you going to do it feels like he's it feels like he's lost the dressing room over there massively feels to me like he's given up I reckon these listeners and the people that you go to your guys you haven't got you haven't got the faith we just haven't moved from this third position the whole thing oh look we're running out of games but hopefully we can get some more points on the table.

58:07I'd love to challenge you. I really would, but I just can't see it happening. He looks resigned to me. Did you see, on the Tudor stuff, did you see him get confused with the wrong Baldy? Yeah, I did. Yeah, yeah.

58:18Chris Stark: I know that guy, Alan Dixon, he's player liaison. Yeah. Yeah, he looks like Brad Friedle more than... Oh, so do you think he did know who he was? No, no, no. You got that wrong, yeah. Yeah. He's just seen Baldy from behind and gone... Yeah, but hold on, hold on. He would know Alan Dixon, do you know what I mean? He would know him, but from behind... I think the minute he turned around he went, oh, it's Alan. I do think that, yeah. But there's no way he doesn't know he doesn't know who he is. Yeah. He works in the... Yeah, so he's a player liaison officer at Spurs. At Spurs, yeah. Yeah. Did you see Tudor's press conference bit afterwards?

58:55Post-match interview. Post-match, yeah. Did see that. It was... Bit awkward, wasn't it? It was kind of... I always find it... I'm not angry, you are. Sort of, like, you know. it's one of them isn't it it's the hardest interview to do for both like because we know a lot of people at TNT and Sky and Bits and they and the reporters that actually do it they've got to ask the questions

59:19Chris Stark: and if they don't they get caned they do by the broadcast so they keep goading they goad it yeah but not like it's not open it's not a loaded question but it's the question that everyone wants to hit the answer to it's not necessarily looking at the positives in that no is it but it's not positive is it at the moment you know the fans are fuming about it situation potentially there's potential for them to go down which is absolutely mental it's mental it's been mismanaged for you know for a long time so what was your take you know when Richarlison scored it is a big point still isn't it they wouldn't have expected points against Liverpool what do you think of the celebration is it is it a bit much if you're in that position as a team and going that sort of audacious and I would say cocky well he's in he's in he's in he's in he's in he's in he's in he's in he's in he's in he's in I mean, he gets a lot of grief as well.

1:00:09Chris Stark: Probably wants to give it back. But I did think, yeah, it's just a draw, mate. Yeah. It's one point in the last five. Yeah. Whatever it is. Yeah. But that would feel like a win when you're in that situation. Yeah, it's massive. And any goal you score, you just lose yourself. So I can understand both arguments. Okay. All right, we'll get into this. I mean, this feels like a huge game now. This is huge. Spurs versus Forest. Forrest, 16th plays 17th. Poor form, obviously, both of them. They have to say a good point from Spurs in the end, regardless of what you think. There's a good point. They got dismantled in Europe, didn't they, beforehand?

1:00:52Chris Stark: And I suppose Forrest, is that a good point? We had them down to get beat by Fulham. Yeah, I thought a draw. I didn't think it was going to be highest score in that game. And listen, it's a point. And when you're down there, every point counts. I mean, that could be the point that keeps them up. But this feels like whoever wins this game kind of stays up in a way. Like, it's... The funny thing is because, obviously, if you count Wolves and Burnley gone, then you've got Forest, Spurs, West Ham, really. Yeah, and Leeds just above. Leeds just above there. But Forest, Spurs, West Ham, one of them's got to go.

1:01:30Chris Stark: That's it. Yeah. That's it. And, I mean, it's one of them games, isn't it? do they go for the obviously going to go for three points but as the game goes on is it like a point's good enough is it going to be a bit of a bore draw this but you do feel like three points in this game especially down there at this time of season is massive massive there's been a lot of talk of you know everyone keeps asking Harry don't they and he's even said he'll be bringing you there any conversations yet not yet no not yet are you partial I'm partial yeah absolutely partial as you know you could do it you could do that that'd be mega wouldn't it imagine that what is what is Joe's side there is something in Harry going back there isn't there it's like you speak to a couple of it just puts a bit of at least some sort of energy into it well I remember last time Ramos we were struggling they were down the bottom then and we ended up in the Champions League spots yeah it might just give something for everyone to rally around and you can sort of see it for what it is I think you know you bring in someone I suggested Robbie Keane and Glenn Hoddle as a few people have but I think that'd be great you know young manager with Glenn's experience knows the club loves the club just galvanise them a little bit well they need to do it if they're going to make a change they need to make it soon yeah okay what do we fancy this is Spurs at home as well should I do some shout outs what's your thinking hello Richard Smith I'm really tall with this Ollie Pierce, Harrison, Danny Mort, Robert Barrett, David Vela.

1:03:09I think, or David Vela, depends who you pronounce it. David Vela. Let's have a look. He says, hello, Barbecue Sea, Bonfire and Crouchy. Imagine this was David Vela. He's calling you Barbecue Sea. this is Crouchy I'll never forget the time you got sent off my team Southampton in our relegations season loving the pod as ever currently out here in Morocco passing the pod to the English on poolside Spurs Forest stinks of a 1-0 reeks of it to be fair I hope we get promoted regards to your family that's good great great message David bear in mind that's been on Instagram four or five minutes max yeah yeah yeah brilliant well done I'll go with him then she thinks of a draw 1-1 1-1 reeks it to be fair I like that that was a good shout I'm going to say Spurs

1:04:05Chris Stark: get a result I'm going to say 2-1 Spurs alright I'm going to go with 1-0 Spurs ok moving on we've got the North East Derby big one versus Newcastle versus Sunderland big one this yeah poor couple of results obviously the Port Vale one was difficult for Sunderland needed to bounce back I thought certainly at home to Brighton another poor result but Newcastle on the other hand it's fantastic against you know played well against Barcelona done really well against Barcelona really well yeah and then obviously get the result against Chelsea as well Newcastle yeah tremendous result you know there's a few incidents that happened but next week we're doing doing a games gone sections a few points in that game that I need to reference in the next episode I think I know what you mean right yeah but what do we see how do we see it Sunderland won this one didn't they at Sunderland in the reverse fixture because I remember they done the picture do you remember after the game might have set themselves up for another picture a little bit of needle in that one do you remember that yeah they beat them at home and they had done the big picture of all the staff and that's going to rattle Newcastle a little bit Newcastle at home I fancy Newcastle strongly in this gives a score I'm going to go Newcastle win this three one okay I was recently up at Sunderland me and Kevin Phillips did a little training day up there it was good I cannot my knee just I had a paddle paddle session this morning cancelled you're injured what because of that my bird he's killing me it weren't because you was on the floor was it when you was kissing Abbey's foot don't be that helped I've done it a long time You got the injury Up at Sunderland Up at Sunderland Or in paddle Yeah yeah No playing Also you was You was Niall Quinn Basically Yeah Quinn and Phillips Quinn and Phillips Yeah yeah yeah How was Kevin Phillips Has he still got a bit Was he a bit Has he still got a bit We had a little competition We had a competition in the gym Destroyed me 52 And then You'd expect that They went outside Fucking hell I think he could still play Really I think he could still play Unbelievable Nice What a legend Good day Sunderland Was that big great day yeah good lads really good lads as well what do you fancy here then I fancy Newcastle just to shade it not as much as Sid's but 2-1 Newcastle so in my head I'm attempting to do another 1-0 but I might switch up to a Desmond 2-0 2-0 2-0 I reckon 2-0 alright lovely okay we'll move we'll segue into to Leeds Brentford shall we this is a good game this is a good game Brentford on the on the cusp of Europe and Leeds just hovering you feel like they only need what five more points probably really another win and a few draws or two more wins and they could be kind of safe I think they'll be alright I think their home form is good as well yeah and they are at home against Brentford Brentford have they have upset a few away from home though this season do you want to go first on this one I think Leeds get a valuable win here.

1:07:26Chris Stark: Yeah, 2-1 Leeds. Missionary. Go on, let you go. I don't know. It's actually, looking at the messages here, a lot of people are saying Brentford. Low goal scoring. I am, however, going to, it's not going to look good on paper on this. I can sort of foresee the comments, but I'm going to go 1-0 on this one. He's done draws the whole way. yeah horny for draws yeah but I think they're going to be quite unhorny draws I just don't see a lot of goals if that makes sense unhorny draws okay I'm definitely going to go for a unhorny Brentford 1-0 away win okay wow well that's that's competitive yeah Sid just as you know a bit across the comments and quite a lot of people think you've got an issue with Leeds that's every time we've had them on you've backed against them.

1:08:23Yeah. In the last six games. Any beef? Is there any beef? I love Leeds. I just see Brentford winning.

1:08:33Chris Stark: Yeah. I saw you can be as honest, isn't it? Leeds, Leeds. Or you can be as honest. Really enjoyable session today. Enjoyed having Danny Dyer on. He was great. He's a character. He was great. He's good. Very passionate about West Ham. Get him in the speeches, is doing something you know like in the changing room West Ham should get him in the changing room before the game he'd send a firework up there wouldn't he yeah he probably would we had Ray Winston come on once Ray Winston did a video for us at the World Cup yeah that is a good idea or get him out on the pitch sort of do you remember when Bruce Forsyth did the FA Cup that time and he got all the fans this is such a great video it's a classic video Bruce Forsyth the FA Cup different time everyone in the crowd just with flat caps on and Bruce is doing the whole nice to see you to see you no way yeah look we've got a video here

1:09:32there's not many people who I think could get away with this at the football Bruce Forsyth walked out at Wembley a pair of red stripes I have never seen this oh look there's just been someone just luzz the ball oh there he is fair play name another person I think Dan Dye is probably the nearest option he's going to beat it oh no he's attacking the Liverpool end

1:09:55Chris Stark: he's attacking the Liverpool end everyone loves him everyone's clubbing him here he goes oh my god I've never seen this before I've never seen this this is so for the audio listener here we've got the band obviously that play at Wembley Liverpool playing the cup final Bruce Forsyth just come on here he goes dribbled into Liverpool scored a goal celebrated and now he's conducting the band. He's got the crowd in the palm of his hands. Watch this. Nice to see you! To see you! No way! No way! Everybody here from Liverpool!

1:10:43I have never seen this. We were a proper country, weren't we?

1:10:48Chris Stark: My God, yeah. That was a 1974 FA Cup final. 74. Newcastle, Liverpool. Never seen that. I've never seen that either. Bruce Forsyth. Oh, that's brilliant. I don't know who else could do it now. Who have we got? Like Danny Dyer, maybe Joel Domit. I don't think. Yeah, I mean, you've got to be a big character. All great people, but not quite Bruce. Nah, not quite. As if he's gone nice to see you to see and the whole crowd have gone nice. The whole football crowd. Unbelievable. You know, recently you talked about, I suppose one for the game's gone, but I saw it was in Ibiza at a nightclub and the Prodigy were playing and it just was going off and then they compared it to Ibiza this summer and everyone's there's a big AI thing going on and they're all just filming it and no one's bouncing whereas Prodigy it was no one had a phone out and everyone was raving and towards now it's like people are watching the TV screen with a DJ yeah it's boring game's gone alright that's for next week

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