Luke Littler on Brush With Sir Alex, Fifa With Rooney & His Becoming WORLD CHAMPION at Just 18

0:01Chris Stark: Here we are. Sid has done a sync clap. We're back stronger, more professional than ever. There's sync claps and everything now. I've missed you boys. Welcome to that Peter Crouch podcast. Me, Peter Crouch, Chris Stark and Notorious SID. Back stronger. How are you boys being? Good? Great. Great, great, great. Really good. Very good. Yes. No, been excited about this. I've missed this I've missed this because you forget how it's almost like therapy this it's a release you know like we all go through stuff I feel like I come in here and share it with everyone sometimes for good sometimes for bad yeah I've missed that I take it you've been on holiday no no why me why have you said that looking at me because you're so tan because you're so tan all year round you're really tan it's been 34 degrees in this country that's not just this country I've not been away stop it I've not I've not I promise you no he's been a busy man yeah been busy but Chumball One Bar's had a little bit of come up in places obviously there's a picture behind us which I'm very proud of it's a fantastic addition but more so the tables for me putting stuff down and like I've got a table environment why did we not have a table before I'm not there just throwing this out there good point really good point it's great to have a table We've got the quad board up.

1:26Chris Stark: Yeah, this is great. So remember we talked about the quad board, the darts. It is up. Are we going to have a leaderboard maybe? Yes. I was thinking when people come on, I think we should all have sitting down there because it's too close. I tried it a minute ago. Sitting down, I think a top score, we'll just have it a bit like, what's it called? Well, our leaderboard. Top gear. Yeah, top gear. Top gear leaderboard. Top gear. Yeah. I was a little bit distracted. You see the light board behind. I think it looks wicked. I think it looks really really smart but you know when you stare at something for a long time the hand down below this looks like a penis that's my only concern but I don't think we should draw attention to it well we have done that I'll be honest with you this is a bit of a staple for the podcast isn't it it's kind of the vibe and many a person said it does look like I am is it me?

2:19I'm going down a bit of football heritage here as well the head and the face that silhouette is that like a young Trevor Brookin? Oh yeah. Are you getting that or not? Yeah. Are you getting that? I see it. I see it now. But I think it's like clouds. It's great. We're definitely not going to change it or anything like that. It's awesome. But you know when you stare at the clouds you just start seeing shapes that appear. I think it's one of those that obviously been looking at it a little bit. But no, it's good to be back in the Chumba One Bar isn't it? And I suppose the first question I've got to ask you, Crouchy, is we've yet to do your forfeit that has rumbled on throughout the summer.

2:57We do have news on that. It is going to happen. But can you just let everyone know you're not trying to sort of wriggle away from it?

3:03Chris Stark: No, I'm not wriggling out of it, actually. Before we started this podcast, there was huge discussions about how this is going to play out. Yeah, I mean, it is happening. I'm very... I kind of argued the case against it, this one, because it's highly embarrassing for me, as you well know. But I'm willing to do it. I'm not once ever back out of the forfeit. So anyone who's... I've had plenty of messages over the course of the summer, I hope you've bottled it. I haven't bottled it. No. So we're 90 % confirmed on it. We're just waiting for the last final details. The final details, yeah. Before we release.

3:39Chris Stark: I think it will happen within the next few weeks as well. It's going to be great. It's going to be great. It's going to be great as well. One little piece of admin before we kick off. This season, we are going to be sticking to one release date last week it was or last year it was the Wednesday and the Friday we'll incorporate the Friday pod in the Wednesday pod so it'll only be out on the Wednesday but you'll get everything in one place yeah and be girthier it'll be girthier yeah yeah a little bit more length and girth yeah bang for their buck who's not up for that that was well that was the feedback from the audience wasn't it that's what the people wanted so that's what we're given slightly more length and definitely more girth so enjoy it and also it just means you can get it all in because, you know, previously, you know, it was one on Wednesday, one on a Friday.

4:25Chris Stark: You don't want to be more active, but, you know. One good session a week. One good session a week. This match day will be sure to fit it in. Absolutely. Certainly. Look, since we've been off over the summer, we've all seen the devastating news that the Samrat in Ealing has closed its doors. Our guys have made contact with the Samrat, Mr. Islam, and can confirm, sadly, that Samrat has closed down. Yeah, yeah. And it's one of those levels. I had a lot of people saying, surely we can do something. And we were talking about fundraisers. We were talking about potentially coming in with a consortium to take over the place.

5:04But there was a chat getting Bob Geldof on for this episode. Yeah, Samrat aid.

5:09Chris Stark: But unfortunately, they don't want to be saved, basically. I think what I realised was Mr Islam I think when I was 10 years old he looked the same right so I'm 44 years old now that's 34 years he still looks fantastic you know so he must have been there all that time I think sometimes things just evolve he's done his time I think I'm getting the vibes of that was it Steve Finnan that just wants to just just go away into the night he's happy you can only be saved if you want to be saved do you know what I mean yeah he's actually very proud and you know Obviously, the Samurai has had many, many happy years.

5:46Shall we just take a moment to relive one of our favourite memories, each from the Samurai? We've had some good times there. For me, it will be Dev from Coronation Street, one glorious night in the Samurai. It was unbelievable. There was the QPR mascot. We had Dev from Coronation Street there.

6:03Chris Stark: It was absolutely boozed, wasn't it? Andreas Iniesta lookalike. Miss Chang, my old dentist. Yeah, I mean, Danny Fenton was there. used to work in my school my mother father it was a special day for me and I'll always remember it with fond memories you know they had the picture up on the wall I actually bought when they redecorated it they had a moving picture of a waterfall had the wheel behind it and it was plugged in on the wall and it was a bit like this but the water moved special unbelievable I bought that at an auction I said don't let that when you're redecorating I said you're going to keep the picture you bought that for the Samurai I bought it so I've got it I didn't know that was you yeah I've got it yeah well you've actually got it I've got it at home yeah Abbey didn't let me put it up but so do you mean do you mean you bought it Pete did you buy it for the Samurai or did you buy it from the Samurai no I bought it from the Samurai so one night you were in having a curry you went and I said obviously they said we're going to be closed for a redecoration I think you only saw it at the redecorations this was when I was young and I just started playing football at the time I think I was at Aston Villa I think I was about 21 22 and I'd always go back to with my mates and we'd always end up having a few pints in the Kent and walk down to the Samrat for a debrief.

7:17Chris Stark: And we go in there and I remember him saying, sorry lads, you're going to have to, probably once a month, twice a month, we'd be in there. And he just said, we're going to redecorate, it's going to be shut for a while. So I said, where's the picture going? We used to talk about this picture all the time. It was unbelievable. I mean, when you'd had a few pints and you'd see water moving on the wall, it was nothing short of, phenomenal really so I bought it there we go so have you got it at home should we bring it to the chamber I've got my England caps I've got you know various boots I've washed shirts all in the loft and the moving picture the Samrat will go on though because we kind of want to represent it somehow some way yeah you know we're open to ideas on this we'll come up with some ideas yeah whether we take on the Samrat brand ourself and you know launch it through Deliveroo.

8:10That's something I was

8:12Chris Stark: looking at. Like you say, launching it for Deliveroo, maybe a pop-up at Glastonbury. You know, if Mr. Islam wants to make one last appearance, just dish it all up. There's various things I'd like to do. I don't want it just to die out. It's a brand now, right? The summer will go on. And also, maybe we could host a kind of Memorial Day once a year from Ealing, because I assume that unit's going to turn into something else. Maybe we can get some sort of plaque on the wall or get the building recognised by UNESCO or get Prince William down there to open it all Prince William the blue plaque I mean that could be wonderful couldn't it I just I just picture him his iconic performances at Crouchfest oh yeah phenomenal the earpiece yeah when we went live to the Samrat hello yes I can hear you well man he's the man he's the best he's woke me up in the middle of the night with Michael McIntyre oh yeah of course But they flew him out of Portugal for that Yeah, they flew him out, yeah Honestly, some of the best times of my life Remembering the great Samrat restaurant Pitzhanger Road Pitzhanger Lane?

9:21Pitzhanger Road Pitzhanger Lane R.I.P.

9:28Chris Stark: Well, obviously there's lots of news over the course of the summer You know, we've had the World Club Championships You know, Chelsea did fantastically well there Obviously the chants of rumours and there's lots of drama that happens over the course. You know, the exact situation, Liverpool sign as many players, they have different windows, how teams have dealt with things. But the biggest thing I wanted to get off, get underway with was the announcement video, Granit Xhaka. I have seen this. You okay with me starting there? I've not seen this. What I understand is like some admin going, right, we've done that.

10:04Chris Stark: That's great. Let's put it out. I think it should not come out. So this seems like it's been done on day one, literally after about an hour after he's signed, it looks like. Yeah, he's just arrived. And I think, obviously, he knows the Premier League. He's been here before, but he hasn't quite known his teammates so much. And I felt that this should have been quashed at source. Finish the sentence. I chose Sunderland because... A big challenge. A big challenge. Sunderland is well known for... Great club. Great club. You lost me a bit there. I'm going to play alongside... Everyone. Everyone Everyone Everyone Everyone My first conversation With the manager was Amazing That's a good one When I told my family They said Very excited They're all very excited I'm sure When I think about The stadium of life I picture Fire The opinion fans Are amazing It's incredible I get it He's answered about 10 questions there And given away nothing It's because It's brutal isn't it It's throw him under the bus I think so I don't think he's quite ready for that and I just think when you watch that I just think do you know what it was a bit early for us to throw that one at him he hasn't trained with his teammates yet I think that's the harshest one like who are you looking forward to playing alongside most yeah but before you sign for a club do you not do you have a like there's an assumed knowledge that you know roughly some of the people you can't highlight I know you're not going to know everyone right but before you turn up to do these sort of videos because you've both done them do you do a quick Google or like try to name some fringe players just to make it look like you know a bit more than you do I think obviously it's more difficult when you go to a foreign country I think if you play in the Premier League and you kind of know who you're playing with but I have to say what a great signing and I think Sunderland have signed well I think they've got I think they've got a chance to stay it up they've signed well and that's a great signing for them it's just not as clued up quite yet for the interview talk about good signings Jack Grealish Everton what are we saying boys well Ross has got a trouser tent over there

12:17Chris Stark: I've never seen a tent erected quicker

12:25Chris Stark: well listen if they get the Jack Grealish I think if they do it correctly like they play the one up front and just give him like a roll a free roll I think he could be back to his best that's the classic it would thrive there he wouldn't have to move house he'd just go and play football and that's what he needs he needs with the World Cup coming up that's what the move is sort of generated around isn't it but I just I've just listen we're massive fans of Jack Greenish here we love him on and off the pitch I just wish I just hope that this one works out I can see a lot I can see there's a little bit of negative around it saying oh is he going to be a David Moyes player is the system going to fit I just feel like the environment and the culture new stadium I think if they just give him the tools to just go we're going to get the ball and we're going to give it to you you just go and win us the game then I think even the fact that he's got the number 18 I was just about to say Gazza Gazza, Rooney Mavericks and that almost feels like I mean obviously he's asked for it but the fact they've accepted that at least suggests an intention there of letting him play in that sort of style I guess it does come down to that What really stuck in my brain was when we had Hal Robson-Karnou on the pod.

13:37And he was talking about playing with Grealish. And he was saying the key with him was you would just give him the ball. He had that freedom. And that was where he was best. And we haven't really seen that the same way with City. So it's whether he can have that freedom, perhaps.

13:52Chris Stark: Yeah, that's all he needs. Do you reckon? No, I think you're right. I think what Crouty said there, Maverick, that is what he is. you know and I think he lost that he got I think modern day players now are getting coached out of that we're losing free spirited Joe Coles you know your Jack Grealish just get on the ball and just go and showcase what you can do and that's what we want to say I think signing a Dewsbury Hall as well compliments it really well he covers a lot of ground I love him as a player I remember I watched him at Chelsea we did the conference league last year quite a bit me and Joe Carl we loved him honestly because he played a lot in that competition but didn't play in the Premier League so I think that's a good sign as well yeah big things for Everton we should talk about Crystal Palace as well while we're on it as well you think about their two last times out at Wembley right they beat Man City and they beat Liverpool and they beat Villa in the semi-final and they beat Villa as well yeah that's like I think they could have an amazing season if they keep hold of Gay this is the big if because you know I think Liverpool have come in for him as well but you know they've kept hold of Glasner you know Mateta Eze Gay so far it's well the one that they cannot let go was Eze like they cannot get rid of him right that would just it would it would send them into decline I believe the rumours coming out they have to sell before they can buy and I think Gehi now they've got to cash in because he can leave on a free from well technically from January onwards really so they're going to want to cash in on him which I believe is going to happen from what I'm hearing probably going to Liverpool as well Eze they can't they can't let go but what is criminal is this conference league but that is just what's happened there is scandalous considering what's happened before and I get like how it is because rules are rules and they didn't know that they was going to get into FA Cup final before March the 1st when they had to submit the forms for the owner at the time is it John but that's not on the team is it he's not even part of the club now he solely shares this isn't on the players it's not on the fans like what happened to the phrase in the spirit of the game you know well our friends at UEFA don't understand that do they it's poor they've got conference league but they should be in the Europa it's it's scandalous yeah no I agree two trophies and what's that four months crazy yeah and you're right and I think yeah if they perform like that this season especially against Liverpool they'll give anyone a run for their money in the Europa League right you know you saw it last year let's be honest like Tottenham and Man United they had an awful season.

16:30Chris Stark: They managed to get to the final. Palace have a real chance of that Europa League. One of the biggest things to happen in their history. So for that to be taken away from them feels so unjust. And dare I say it, they've got a kind of, I don't know, there's a bit of an energy around them in a kind of cup situation, a tournament situation. So it does feel... Any European club coming to Sellers Park, they're going to feel that. Yeah. imagine that on a European night listen also we covered a lot of conference league last year they got a good chance of winning that they'll win that so hopefully they can just balance the two off because I think their squad depth probably may not be able to cope with it throughout the season hopefully juggling it they'll be able to do it but anyway and what about Will Hughes who of course listens to this podcast all the time yeah friend of the pod big friend of the pod lifting trophies good to see great to see really is good to see

17:29Chris Stark: as we told you previously we are merging the podcast this is the Friday podcast the bit of the Friday podcast that's supported by Paddy Power and the big weekend fixture this week is Manchester United versus Arsenal Arsenal are pretty strong favourites here you put a tenner on Arsenal you get£21 back put a tenner on United you get£33 back I think United are good value here obviously it feels like a battle of the two strikers I'm going to try and pronounce his name but I get it wrong every time Goykeres Goykeres why can't I say it though yeah it's a tough one Goykeres yeah I coached him when he was at Brighton did you yeah when he was younger yeah believe it or not imagine that Brighton let him go good went to Coventry obviously Cesc goes the other one yeah you could he was only young then he was only young but you could see did you see it yeah but I mean I think he was on the bench maybe once or twice didn't get on and one that got away for them surely are you saying that he's not the reason he's the player is because he's been coached by Steve Sidwell no is that what you've just said is that what you've just said no I didn't say that I didn't say that the football world has got a lot to thank Steve Sidwell for remember Newcastle wouldn't have won any silverware last season if it wasn't for seeds we've established that already it's true yep city of love we need to get out there as well by the way we do maybe we do that Valentine's weekend let's do it that'd be nice who have they got there around then have a little look at the fixtures we'll look at the fixture list it's a good one this because Arsenal have been crying out the fans have been screaming season after season about getting a strike up they finally got one he was ripping it up in the Champions League in Europe last season and they've got him I think he's going to be a big hit because he's going to have chance after chance then it's going to be down to him wherever he's going to put him in the back of the net Zubamendi as well we're midfield with Declan Rice I think them two are going to be formidable Zubamendi and Declan Rice is a formidable partnership I don't worry about that like defensively and midfield I don't I don't know who do you take out of Cesco and Giochrez that's tough they're both class aren't they I take Cesco personally yeah yeah all round maybe I don't think there's a lot in there no I look at their their mods there I think they're they're a little bit based on last season as well like you look at who United have recruited in Kunia Mbwemo Fassa front three that and that's why I am gonna back Manchester United oh my god he's going straight in yeah you're coming out all guns blazing he's coming out all guns blazing I've seen what a forfeit's gonna be you can fuck off now so you already have an IOU on one forfeit just to be very clear I do yeah listen we've established it is gonna happen very soon okay so you're going United yes I am 2-1 oh god oh I've not missed this feeling completely forgotten about it well are you throwing this out are you doing your normal throwing it out to the what's this story about Arteta by the way oh yeah we need to check in with him can you direct message Tuckers19 and go with that straight away

20:40okay while he's doing that you're right we should start the season start the season with Tuckers19 while he's tucking into Tuckers I'm going to go with a draw on this and I'm going to say it's going to be 1-1-2-2 1-1-2-2 1-1 1-1

20:58Chris Stark: 1-1-1 draw 1-1 draw just messaging Tuckers do you take your time on Tuckers score predictions he's a busy man quickly have either of you heard this story about Arteta in the tunnel it's something like he's got rid of the little covering on the tunnel yeah he got rid of the covering yeah so he can feel it he wants to feel it more what the ones that I think it's the little extendable one that comes out. Yeah. Well, if you lose, you'll fill a bottle. That's what you will fill. In a way, why have they got that? I'm just actually trying to think now. For that reason, so you don't get someone thrown somewhere.

21:33Chris Stark: No, it's not. It's not in this country, surely. Well, that's why they came in. It was so abused. That's what I'm saying. So why are they around now? Well, I think it's for safety. It does feel like an odd tradition that you can't go from the edge of the tunnel to the pitch without a little sort of covering coming out for you. Well, I think like, you know, when you watch games in Turkey and some South American derbies, you know, you do. Yeah, but I think that's just crept into our game as well. Oh, as well. Quite often there's players that aren't religious who have crossed themselves before they come on in games.

22:07Yeah. And also you're stripping away a job that the steward, and we are a big advocate of stewards here, that probably they buzz for that. When that whistle goes, they sprint and they get it and it's out.

22:17Chris Stark: Yeah, good point. I saw a funky one at Watford the other day as well I went to the I went to the Carabao Cup game yesterday and what I don't know really what the story was here but one of the Watford coaching staff was shouting at players from the other side of the pitch so he'd obviously walked around and then was giving instructions from the side of that and I've never seen this before and I don't know if it's illegal but the ref then came over and basically said you're gonna have to stop this so I'm going to have to that's totally illegal but it's like a double-sided bench at that point so he went around there and stayed there and stayed there that's totally illegal is it?

22:58Chris Stark: yeah because there's a technical error for a reason you can't step out of the technical error it's true I mean he was right on the other side of the pitch I don't really know if it was a kind of like tactic sort of thing or but where do you stand on sort of double double-sided double-enders well I guess if you will they're good in some situations but can you imagine Can you imagine, like, just we're very innovative on this podcast with football and how it could evolve. One eye on that. Could you see a time where there is a bench on one side and a bench on the other? Oh, no. I do. I do. I do see it.

23:33Chris Stark: Yeah. That there screams to me that whoever was on the other side of the pitch in terms of that player had zero football IQ. And it needed one of the staff. I wondered if it might be a language thing or something like that. Impossible. Go and get hold of him kind of situation. Go and get hold of him. Yeah. I always remember when we were playing at Stoke and Jonathan Woodgate was right back away at Wolves. This story has been told a million times where he's getting roasted by Matt Jarvis. I think in that situation, first five minutes he gave, I think he might have given away a pen, then he was on a yellow card, then he fouled him again, should have been a straight red within 15 minutes because he was getting roasted at right back.

24:13Chris Stark: And I think then in that situation, and I think that deserved a technical area on the other side. I need like a winning, just calm down, just don't dive in. But he got hauled off and he was very appreciative. I just think in a loud stadium where you've only got the bench on one side, if you're playing right back, you're never close to the manager on that side. I think if you need constant coaching for a football match, you shouldn't be starting a game. That's what I'm saying. The football IQ must be a ring. Professional footballer, you know what I mean? You shouldn't, I don't think I listened to anyone when I was playing.

24:48Chris Stark: People might have been shouting stuff and yeah, your teammates, you kind of, but manager, I couldn't hear him. Yeah. But also when you speak to some wingers, they would buzz off playing on the opposite side of the bench. Yeah, away from people. Just away from them. Yeah. Play your own game. You get it in Sunday League a little bit, but what about the idea of two managers as well? No. No, can't see it. No. We had that growing up. Two managers? We had two managers. There's only one manager. We had Lauren, I can't remember his name it was Lawrence this was Penn Stars it was Lawrence and Ian Cathcart and I think they did sort of one week on one week off yeah oh they was never at the same time maybe sometimes but I think the idea was they could cover if there was oh yeah that makes sense yeah I get the covering one but at the same time well imagine being you know a far touchline manager imagine that was your role yeah what are you on my far touchline could come into play this there could be a little tiny technical area on the other side the pitch for that one person.

25:44A little one person one. A little solo one. Like a boo.

25:47Chris Stark: A little solo one, yeah. Far touch live. I like it. Interesting. Interesting. I'll see if Tucker's has got back. Tucker's is on. Tucker's has replied straight away. Yeah. Whoa. This has made his, this has made his day by the way. All right. He says, say hi to the ginger ninja and the suave bean pole from me. If you're new to this podcast by the way, if you're new, Tucker's 19. so when we do these predictions right and obviously there's a forfeit at the end of the season um we do the predictions throughout whoever loses our little mini league um has to do the forfeit i tend to just go on instagram and ask for everyone's and try to be a kind of voice of the population of people who listen to the podcast because you two are experts and you know you know the players and you you get the latest information all that i i don't get any of that so I go to the people in a bit of a kind of power to the people move and one week we found a guy called Dan Tuckwell his his insta handle is Tucker's 19 and he's ended up just becoming a thing on this podcast yeah yeah he's just uh he's become a bit of a celebrity so I do have Tucker's 19's predictions if you fancy them all of them just this first okay so he's going he's oh god he's going he's going for a United win well that's what I went for 2-1 well what did you go for 2-1 you've got to stick with it stick with Tuckers Tuckers 19 makes me feel great if Tuckers is going for it I feel comfortable I actually feel like I want to change and go for 2-1 no no alright we'll go 2-1 from Tuckers 19 ok we do have Paddy's boost this is if you don't remember we pick each pick a leg of the CrouchPod bet builder the odds on that bet builder will then be boosted by 20 % and put on the special section of the Party Power website and app I'm going to go for a player to be carded Dallo a player to be fouled one or more times Kunja for Man United ok I'm going to go with player to score or assist I'm going to go you've thrown me with the pronunciation don't go for it Guilacarez bang smashed it well done there you go the odds are correct at the time recording please gamble responsibly right next fixture is Villa versus Newcastle I'm actually at this game yeah I'm doing the game since early kick off 12.30 I've done quite a few of these for TNT this year really looking forward to going up there really looking forward to it Villa Park yeah have you seen they're serving Guinness now at Villa Park are they really they're doing a few stadiums aren't they I saw it I think in the Emirates as well they've done there Guinness is getting into football I don't know what the quality will be if you could maybe try and well I'll have one yeah I will I will.

28:29Chris Stark: If you can try and sink one. I mean, it's 12.30 in the morning and I am working. When has that ever stopped you? We'll have a look.

28:43Aaron Ramsdale as well.

28:45Chris Stark: Yes. Exciting move. Really good. I think Lange is a good shout as well. Yeah. Friend of the pod, Aaron Ramsdale. Actually, if you listen to us, Aaron, I've got a shirt. It's on its way to you. he asked me for a shirt for some of a Stoke charity but I haven't done it because I've been away but it's on my mind Aaron so don't let that plague you when you're playing this game it's on its way Villa Park yes love it great love it especially first few weeks of the season I mean it's nice there all the time but first few weeks of the season when the sun's shining pitches glistening like there's no better place there's a lot a lot of rumours over the summer wasn't there like Morgan Rodgers, Tielemans, Ollie Watkins.

29:31Chris Stark: Managed to keep hold of all of those. Obviously losing Rashford, Asensio, who was fantastic last year as well. There's been a few losses but managed to keep hold of them. Newcastle, obviously, that talks been easy hasn't it the whole time. They haven't managed to get anyone in. Just quickly, do you think he will play for Newcastle again? Yes or no? Can't, surely. I don't think the fans will tolerate it. Do you think it's gone, does it really go past the point in D-A's? well you do think that and then there are players who have come back and turned it around then he comes back scores 3-3 gets a bang a hat trick in it's all forgotten I just don't think he does well I just think they're not going to forget are they what's the player's point of view do they do they care about this job yeah listen I think they care but I think you know like I don't think they're going to ostracise him from the dressing room personally I think Eddie Howe might yeah I get the impression Eddie Howe has but it's not like they're kicking them out a WhatsApp group or something they're all talking no sorry the players wise yeah they understand because they would have been in similar situations or I've seen players been in similar situations and look it's Liverpool Football Club at the end of the day but what I will say and we all know this and everyone listeners will know that Newcastle fans are special I've done a piece for TNT up in Newcastle last week a bit of pre-season training and I got a flight home in the afternoon at the airport so Newcastle airport obviously there's flights going to Tenerife, Ibiza the amount of people that have got Newcastle shirts on was just going on like that it was unreal it's a special place and I think they are not going to tolerate someone like that it's just been handled badly I don't think Isak hasn't he hasn't put himself in a good light I've got to be honest he hasn't it's not the way to go about things that's my situation there I think you've got to respect the club you're at you've got to play the games.

31:25Chris Stark: Of course, yeah, behind the scenes, you're like, look, I do want to go there. And you say to Eddie Howe, but you train properly. You know, I just think the way it's been handled has not been good for anyone. And you've got to respect the tone in the manager, I think, as well. I think a lot of people buy into Eddie's manner, I guess. How he carries himself, how he represents the club in these press conferences and how he explains what's going on. Must be a very tricky one because I guess this whole thing around the move as well and his value is affected the more it goes on. And it's a strange situation, that all in all, because you also can't not play a depreciating asset.

32:04No, no. And that's why I just, I see the deal happening. Obviously, Nunes has gone from Liverpool. I just see it coming to an agreement where a fee will be agreed and he'll go. And it's a shame whether it's been more him or whether he's been ill-advised, and now it's come out about some of the actions that he's taken. but I, yeah, I think this is just gonna, just put a bit of unrest in that squad. I think Newcastle fans, I think you're right in everything you've said but they are fair and it's interesting you think it's too far. I'm just trying to think of examples where it has kind of worked out.

32:39Tevez? I assume. What, where, where you come back to it. Yeah, you stay, go on, win. Yeah, but I think it's what he said when he's come out and I believe he said this that I won't play for Newcastle again. Yeah, I mean, if that, is that what was said? Wow. That's a big call. Yeah. So in that respect, I think Villa, especially their home form from last season, I think they're going to carry this on. I'm going to jump in here and I'm going to say Villa 3-1.

33:09Chris Stark: I was at the game last year at Villa Park. Yeah. Villa destroyed them. Yeah. Newcastle were flying as well at that time. Do you remember when Izak was on that mad run of goals? And then I interviewed him and then watched the game and he dried up. I don't know what it says about my chat. Goy, what have you boys got? It's not really me anymore, is it? It's Tucker's. Have you asked Tucker's 19? Tucker's has gone... He's on with it. It says, sadly, bad start for the Geordies because the transfer issue is 2-0 Villa. I like Tucker's. He knows your stuff. So that's two for Villa. What was your score?

33:503-1 Villa. You've got 2-0 Villa.

33:54Chris Stark: it feels like there's only 2-1 left I like 3-1 I'm going to have 2-1 Biller yeah fine I'll have to move on you're still in the game if Newcastle score I'm in the game aren't I I've got value

34:12Chris Stark: go on in

34:18Chris Stark: last game's Brighton Fulham is this is this going before Luke Littler alright right Brighton Fulham is the last game we're going to have to hurry a few predictions please because we've got Luke Littler to get on yes what's Tucker saying Tucker's is saying Brighton 2-0 really yeah Fulham had a good season last year they did yeah SS Derby this is and Brighton at home yeah I think Brighton will just edge this I'm going to say did you say 2-1? 2-0 I'm going to say 2-1 2-1 Brighton I do see them keeping a clean sheet though 2-1 Brighton still I'm going to go I'm going to go 1-0 then that's a good shout I enjoyed the video over the summer of all the Brighton players with the horse great yeah good to see really good Because you've told me this sort of stuff happens.

35:20No, I've heard of that. A lot of the horses that you wouldn't realise are backed by a team or owned by a team. James Milner instigates that. He's got a little consortium. Has he? Does that, yeah. So if you want a horse, you go to James Milner, do you? He's the horse man.

35:35Chris Stark: He's the horse whisperer. Anyway, we caught up with Luke Littler. Check that out. 190.

35:51Chris Stark: Right, ladies and gentlemen, Luke the Nuke Littler is with us. How are you? I'm all good. You're good? Yeah, all good, mate. I apologise for our... We were slightly late today, so I apologise. I know you've had a bit of a day of it, but it's a pleasure to be with you. We've had the privilege of throwing a few darts. Chris, you missed it because you were late. I missed it. Sorry, train delays and all that sort of thing, Luke. It just happens, doesn't it? But we're here now and that's the most important thing. How was it playing darts with the boys, Luke? It was good. They've got a better battle themselves.

36:18who's bad you can be honest there you go

36:24Chris Stark: he's not happy with that he's got his darts and everything I'm retiring the darts already I've got to say it was poetry emotion watching yeah it was good to watch honestly just everyone just like doosh doosh do you know the sound how does it work for you do you think you can get to any dartboard and play play well because I've seen these lads when they rock up to say a park and the standard is still top you know I mean if it's if it's the right height and the right length then yeah I don't know he was wobbling that ball a little bit when he was taking the darts he kept moving the 20 to be fair when you pulled the dart out the 20 like literally rolled down to like 3 o 'clock so we had to keep moving it around and I don't think he was overly impressed but do you know it's amazing obviously you've gone to global stardom now right at such a young age you know 18 years of age I think it kind of hit home to me just now when you explained to me that you've got to do straight after this interview you're going to go and do your theory test just thinking how working out i think about 25 years since i did my my theory test so but like it's amazing i mean how you know how difficult has it been for you just to go from kind of just being a normal fellow who can go down the uh you know wherever you practice pub or wherever play darts so then becoming the nuke yeah i think it took a lot of time to like well i say settling like just get used to it get used to media attention um i'd say like the first honestly the first five six months of last year after my first world i was just in my house i just didn't want to go out really i was all new to it um but now it's just it's part of the job it's part of the plan and just gotta get on with it why why was that were you just because you're a private person you just couldn't get over this kind of attention that you were that's it I just couldn't get over the fact that at the time I was just like I just got to the world championship final but everyone was like it was a big deal obviously but I was just like I'm known now there's no going back but yeah now I'm just used to it used to the fans and everyone wanted to take pitches outside and just give them a bit of time you know what I was playing when Wayne Rooney came through and it does feel something very similar with yourself you know just straight into the top level of your game.

38:44Chris Stark: I mean, it must be so satisfying to be there and it must be so hard to kind of deal with at the minute. Yeah, it's literally all I've wanted to do, just play on the biggest stages. I wanted to play on all of them. I think I've completed them all now. But now I'm just, I'm living the dream. Yeah. What about the theory test? You haven't completed that yet. Not yet. Six times. I'm lucky today. Is it? Six times. It's not that bad, is it? No. you know with the theory test i don't know it's been a while since i did it but my memory of it was you had to guess where the hazards were right but it's your perception of what a hazard is so i just went anything dog goes past hazards yeah you know uh pedestrian elderly pedestrian hazard hazards everywhere luke that's that's the way just click away you know don't be shy there's been a few times where I've been tapping to watching this and go you've scored zero because you clicked too many times oh is that the issue yeah alright you know we actually had a thing on we were talking about you you know your rise to fame so quickly we had a thing on our podcast that we weren't going to get you on because it was more like we wanted to protect you it felt like we had you got this diamond and you needed to be sheltered before do you remember this?

39:59Chris Stark: what was the actual quote do you remember this? well we had we'd done another podcast I think it was just before the first championship final and I don't know what the topic would have been on that podcast it would have been like up and coming stars and you was on there and this is actually this was the quote so this is actually from you Chris we are going to be the only media outlet to say we don't want Luke on because we want him to concentrate on his darts this amount of weird attention that appears you must have seen it galvanise some players and people but it does have a negative effect as well maybe that's what we do with Luke we give him a couple more years win a few world champs at some point then invite him onto the pod yeah honestly and bearing in mind obviously it wasn't on your teams and yourselves radar anyway but we declared ourselves out before we were looking after you and then the first available chance to get you on we got you on get it take it you gotta time these things right oh yeah but i think there was an element of that and i feel like what you've been talking about there in terms of just getting this you know quite intense uh attention i guess um and the way you seem to deal with it and kind of float through it uh what what is like your main i don't know coping mechanism with it all how how do you do it um just well last year like I said I just didn't move out of the house I just wanted to stay in but now it's it's just pretty normal I'm an 18 year old go out with my lad go out with my mates obviously they drive drive about just like any any normal people do and I just want to want to be normal but then obviously when it's when you're at the darts you're not normal you're you're a global superstar like how does that feel like when you're kind of in that darts environment do your mates from home do they come watch you yeah most of us I invited him down for a few of the games at the World Championships as well yeah sorry I was going to say you said earlier on when we was throwing darts do you get angry to Lou and you was like I do within myself but I don't show it which is incredible really from like being so young is that just a mentality thing to show your opponent that you're not rattled or is that exactly what it is yeah because if say if say if I'm playing someone and they've had a bad score and they've got, they've like shaken their head and I'm like, I've got him now.

42:34So that's why I'll just never, never show anything. I never do show someone then you might get me. It's a real one. Yeah. Crouch, you mentioned Rooney earlier. I love how you've kind of, I see a lot of stuff from you, especially online to you, Ginge. Rooney likes to get involved sometimes in that. I love how these different sports get involved in darts and love the darts as well. you've obviously made a lot of new friends. What has been some of the kind of, I don't know, fanboy experiences for you as a sports fan? I think number one's taken the world championship trophy onto Old Trafford. That's got to be...

43:11Big United fan, right? It's got to be up, that's got to be up there. Going to Carrington for myself. Scoring a great free kick as well. Yeah.

43:21Chris Stark: Have you got a bit football-wise? Yeah, yeah. I have noticed. what were you what position were you what position did you play I think the last time I played like properly I'd probably say I was like 9 or 10 so I was just like striker left wing I am left footed though you're there there's a premium for that I'm a lefty yeah there is a premium for that you can't throw left handed though no we had to go I'm not sure if I'm better left handed you met you met Fergie as well which must have been incredible is that the best have you met Pitbull yet yeah have you what was let's talk through both experiences two very good experiences can I just say in one sentence there you said have you met Ferguson and have you met Pitbull two greats at a game in their respective fields what was that like both of them separately please yeah I mean Sir Alex is just he's the goat isn't he obviously for my dad obviously he's 40, 41 but he still couldn't believe it because obviously when he was growing up that's when Sir Alex was doing wonders and now I'm left left in the mud a bit oh you are a bit you know what like I because I had to look at when you were born 2007 right so you know you got like less for eight years the 99 treble I remember it like it was yesterday I mean it was one of the greatest things that United have achieved and um amazing but you you know you're kind of you've missed out on that and they're great teams of the kind of 90s and early 2000s I suppose and what was the first team you remember player wise Rooney Cristiano yeah I grew up watching United I've seen thankfully I've seen Sir Alex's last season when he won the Premier League so I've seen one when I was when I was six but yeah I think my top United player has got to be Rooney yeah and obviously when Cristiano came back that's when I went mad and when the world went mad yeah has Wayne been to see you at the darts yet but I assume he's a fan yeah he came in Manchester this year and then have you got quite pally with him obviously your mates with him and that good fun yeah obviously we played he's been on the Xbox and the Playstation have you seen these videos boys yeah I've seen them yeah yeah I've seen them pro clubs love it unreal but yeah so is that what you do like you game most of the time whenever down time gaming see my mates got some food with them go shopping some new clothes and do what an 18 year old does and I suppose you played all the kind of youth events and you've obviously been playing a long long time like where did it start for you and did you play in pubs or did you play at home yeah I was I think when I was about I think nine or ten when I started to play in like pub leagues um obviously when I got into it found out about a team and then they played like Tuesday Wednesday Thursday Friday so I was in the pub like four times a week playing darts and then they'd be like local tournaments that I never heard of on a Saturday and Sunday so I'd go play them and did you love it though yeah I just didn't want to stop seriously I could kind of tell that before because we were here early before and we all just us three and you just did not stop as soon as you get going like that's when you you just don't stop yeah obviously when I'm at home I'm practicing on my own it can get boring that's why I don't practice that much I bet the old man was loving it I've got to take him to the pub again because he's he's got another comp so he's got another comp so he's got to go back to back last night and tomorrow night here we go so I mean your dad must be thrilled as well because you know I see we've got the nuts around here the KB nuts is that a staple give us your flavour then give us your flavour best ones of them spicy chilli spicy chilli no not spicy honey roasted dry the tie oh yeah but this is before your time I swear it was the caper nuts this was before your time do you remember where you'd get the nuts and then there'd be a picture behind the nuts that just slowly revealed when I heard we were coming to meet you and the nuts were going to be involved I was really hoping it was going to be one of those situations but it was Luke sorry about that just slowly reveal I don't know what you mean there yeah where are you going honey roast is the one honey roast there's a place for original always yeah I'm an original oh yeah beer in a pack of nuts I thought you might be you're coming from this I just thought you might be an original I thought you might be old school yeah yeah alright sorry crack on the main reason I'm not eating all day so I was going to let me hold this I didn't think it'd be as easy you're going to go for it I'll have a couple so when you go to the pub to practice obviously you're too young to have a few beers whatever so what would you be a staple I imagine it'd be the nuts, but what would your drink be while you're in there?

48:17Chris Stark: Water? No, just Coke. Cut the Coke? Yeah, literally. And like now, obviously back in the day, I remember growing up and watching the dance players, very much like it was a lot of, there was a lot of drinking going on. And, you know, now, is it more, is it more professional than that? Like, is it, are players watching what they eat now? Are they watching the diets? Yeah, I think, I think we have to because of the busy schedule and we're always traveling.

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50:08a podcast right so we've got a mini league goes throughout the season i lost a bet and so the boys arranged it that i would join the the dancers at the world dance and i'd have to dress as cheerleader and go join them exactly it was your first it was your first final yeah yeah yeah so i'd like to claim some of the success for getting the crowds you know that getting the crowd going no listen you should watch it back you had to seriously had to go go behind stage crowds were great for a few hours learn the routine come out yeah pom-poms the lot wasn't it yeah so there's

50:40Chris Stark: an argument to say you might not have reached that first final without chris whipping the crowd they were excited very excited you wasn't i definitely wasn't no what what's been your this is you must have had this before but your favorite legged darts right because there's so many out there already there's such a young age you know obviously the nine dieters like which of the of the legs or the or the are your absolute favorites um well people say about the van grew and michael smith like but i think man and josh rocks unreal yeah like i'm just thinking with him right he's standing there and he's on he's on a nine dollar you get it before him yeah well how does he feel did you speak to him after no i didn't really speak to him but in the moment and he said well done but yeah I think I was I was like 6-2 down I weren't even thinking of the 9 obviously you're on it you can hear the crowd but in my head I'm just thinking just win the leg just win the leg he's got back in the game obviously I have it at the 9 it's 167 average Josh has gone 180 180 he's averaged 180 and he's not had a chance to it as 9 unreal and yeah what was it so 9 15 no 15 perfect darts yeah unreal but it's the celebration after it was just the like it's the I don't want to say arrogance because you need that arrogance to be like to be a superstar which is what you are I was fuming myself because I was like 6 '2 down I was just like not bad yeah but it was a struggle on the shoulders to go like what do people expect your reaction sounds good isn't it Sid's is right there's sometimes I look at you and you have that Eric Cantona swagger about you you sort of turn around and give it a bit yeah it's when the net comes out I think that's class yeah that was it you know he's in then at that point what is that feeling like though because I know it myself because I remember if I get a 220s I go I'm on for 60 here

52:44Chris Stark: I just think I know exactly what it's like like when you're on for a 9 dart like it's not just 2 darts and you know you get the 180 a 9 dart that's something different right so when you're on that last start or the second to last start is there is there more adrenaline i i find it i find most adrenaline when i've got 180 180 and you find the the next treble so you've hit seven treble 20s in a row and then you're like you've got a switch now you've got to go downstairs again um but yeah that's the hardest thing once you get the first treble and obviously treble 19 or treble 17 for myself i think that's the hardest it's still a hard thing to do I know darts is televised more and more now but it seems as though chances for nine darts you see a lot more than you did probably back in the day is that because the standard's probably getting better or is it just because it's on TV more does that mean yeah the standard's definitely getting better anyone can win there's been a few times where obviously we play like behind closed doors tournaments I lost to one of the one of the Polish lads I think he was around like 50 or 60 they made a story out of it Polish dart player drives a bus in Ireland beats Luke Littler I'm like sorry we're on tour we're battling it and like I said no matter what rank you are no matter how good you are anyone can win you were going to claim the darts earlier weren't you Sid no I was assuming assuming one of them you had a look and went no I did that no downstairs I was good upstairs it might be this ball I don't think it's I don't think it's legal this the trajectory is not right.

54:27It's a poor hockey. Luke, what about Pitbull then? Meeting Pitbull, talk me through that. Are you gutted you didn't get, or did you go to his concert in a ball cap? No, I didn't go with a ball cap. I've been twice this year. I went to Dublin. He was on the Wednesday and on the Thursday I was playing the Premier League in Dublin. So you went to the gig? On the Wednesday and then played on the Thursday. Just to meet him. obviously my song it came from wrestlemania back in 2017 when i went to america um that was a moment i'll never forget and then obviously i was like when i was playing like youth darts if i had a walk on it'd be green light and then now i brought it brought it into the fan base will you stick

55:10Chris Stark: with it forever do you think a big question yeah i don't know about forever i think i can't i can't swap it now because everyone's just getting into it yeah it is good though but yeah once the crowd starts to be a bit quiet I'd be like alright then I've got a couple of suggestions Vanessa Carlton a thousand miles number one just always a classic or Chumba Wumba is a potential just have a look you probably don't know who they are but you'll have a look we'll have a look we'll have a look we'll have a look talking to talking to United this year mate what were you saying we're what finish I'd like to say like he's genuinely tucking into the K-Penuts I'd be happy with like a 7th or 8th back into the conference or even back into the Europa I think it's better this season obviously last season was awful but I think this season without the midweek games obviously players can rest and be fully fit I think I think we'll do well good signings coming in yeah signing wise you happy happy so far I think United themselves they wanted them two players Cunyre and I think we've got them but yeah I think a few more need to come in I put on my Instagram story Douglas Luiz the event is just letting him go get him in he can play holding he can play attacking he can do what you want I think I've seen Garnaccio might be going to Villa so take Watkins off them as well maybe a swap deal see I like this because I'm feeling you know you've got a little bit of influence yeah do you know this reminds me of literally I had a little flashback there to Elton John do you remember telling us literally Elton John used to fire little emails into Watford and say you need to look out for this player and this player and yeah I'm a big Watford fan you know Elton's pissed off when suddenly something comes up on Instagram it's always the story and it's just enough to go like manager gets another six months

57:18Chris Stark: Littler says Douglas Louise or you can't great good you're doing brilliant you're doing brilliant so what's next Luke what's next for you mate where are you you're in Australia you said yeah yeah fly out Australia Monday have Monday to Thursday well Monday to Wednesday chill Thursday I can chill out but then we'll do a little meet and greet with a few of the fans Friday Saturday play darts Sunday fly over to New Zealand and then same again Monday Wednesday Thursday meet and greet and then same again the things like that literally take is it a pinch moment where you go you've been sort of grown up in you know Manchester area throwing darts to realise that this is actually like a global like how big darts is because it's getting huge now is it bigger and bigger and bigger when you go there I mean the crowd is still huge can you still bigger younger are intensive it's just it's kind of absolutely mental I know it's obviously it's big in Australia but I think the big one was New York and America we played Madison Square Garden this year but only in the little theatre there was still 3 ,000, 4 ,000 over the two nights but that's for myself I'd love to play in the big Madison Square Garden but I think in a few years America do you still claim it I would say we did the O2 we did the Indigo 2 you know it was Indigo it was like two and a half thousand people but we were just calling it the O2 yeah it's the O2 you claim that did you prefer playing in a big arena with loads of fans or would you prefer a smaller one where the fans are like on top more intense I'd probably say a big arena more people yeah I just love the atmosphere the walk on the adrenaline but yeah the fans every time wherever we go they're amazing Do you love all the fancy dress and all that?

59:16Do you ever see someone and does it make you laugh? I remember years and years ago when I was watching the darts, Premier League, for 17 nights straight, there was a Mario Luigi in the same spot at the front.

59:29Chris Stark: 14 nights straight. Just love it. It's the most fun. We've had some good times. It was good. You know, you're such a fan of wrestling, right? Can you see darts embracing that sort of idea more and more with the characters of darts players and trying to play on that a bit more? Because obviously there's the skill and the talent, but do you think that we'll see more personality come through increasingly? Yeah, obviously you may not know, but the amount of youngsters out there now who are 14, 15, so they're nearly old enough to try and become a professional. There's going to be some youngsters coming through the ranks and I'm sure you'll be talking to quite a few within the years to come.

1:00:10Yeah, it's just mental. We'll make sure we're the last people to do so. I can vouch for that. So I've got three boys, as you know. I've told you the stories about the kids. And we've got a dartboard up at home in the kitchen. And the door that separates the living room to the kitchen, it's got like a little glass panel. And the boys, I'll be watching TV, and then the light will be off, okay, in the kitchen. And they'll have their phones on flash, like doing lots of UBC in the flashes. And they'll start playing music, their walking music, their dance. and they come in and they walk one by one and I'm thinking it's a nightclub in there like literally it's all going off and then all of a sudden the lights go on and it's like a little then you can hear the they've got the app for the darts counter yeah first up so it is he's catching on to all the youngsters you used to have me a video of you once with a dressing gown on your head and you were walking through I think abs had to film it or something and you were there doing your walk on

1:01:08Chris Stark: yeah yeah you always think about your walk on like you must have had that did you have the nuke for instance and the music did you have that sorted before you even got to alipali yeah um did you yeah where did the nuke come from then obviously i know why but did it just happen just happened literally me and my dad sat in a pub and we were like a darts we um i wanted my own my own darts shirt my own design um and then we were just like because a lot of the um players it's like the first name and then the or some of them is just the name but then we would just think like luke the nuke and then it just popped in our heads and we were like i'm having it it's the one um a question that a lot of people have asked me a lot of mates of mine actually have asked um when there's a break in the darts and you go off stage what do you do is it a case of you go in there and throw is there a dartboard where you throw or do you go in there and talk to someone or you do you go there and grab a bite to eat or as you have a drink?

1:02:09Yeah, just, well, for myself, just chill out. Obviously, it's very hot on stage, so when we get a break, use it. Is there an allocated time for that? Is there like, if you've got to be on enough? Two, three minutes until obviously Sky come back on air. But if there's not a dartboard, then we'll probably go behind for a minute and then we'll still have two minutes on stage. Obviously, the fans will see us practicing on stage, but obviously the people at home, they'll be watching adverts.

1:02:37Chris Stark: I actually, something we did on the podcast asked before I don't know if you've heard this might have been before your time but there was a quad board with a with a with a quadruple how do you feel about that I meant to bring it today but I'll be honest with you I completely forgot but it would have been nice for you to have a little go at that what are your thoughts on the quad should we bring it back have you seen it yeah yeah have you I remember it yeah nonsense it'd be mental wouldn't it especially if you're playing 5-0-1 what could you finish in yeah yeah 8-0 don't ask me an eight dart leg the perfect eight what would if you if you could change or if there was in time changes to be made because sport evolves what changes would you like to see or would you think it's just perfect how it is I don't really like look into into it too much I just obviously when the calendar comes out me and manager sort it out put everything in and obviously if I'm worn out a bit I'll obviously pull out of tournaments but yeah the calendar's it's there for a reason it's absolutely stacked there's been even more competitions this year but I think it's going alright obviously the older boys might not be happy about something but I'm just there to play darts The game is evolving as well Is the dream darts at Old Trafford?

1:04:03I wouldn't say no to it definitely would not say no they'd have to shut the roof off don't want any wind yeah we found that today with the air con yeah

1:04:18Chris Stark: it was on it was on it was on wasn't it that's just moving me dart to the one it's not nice is it right Luke I understand you're partnered with KP Nuts and there's a promotion going on at the minute what is it yeah so obviously once I signed this year KP they've been working the magic thinking of ideas for obviously these content days as what us players do with different sponsorships but this one it's special I think it's crazy loads of pubs up and down the country they can sign up and there's going to be one lucky winner I don't even know how many have signed up but one lucky winner they'll get an appearance off me for a few hours in their pub and throw some darts so you're going to come down with the locals and you're going to mix they're going to have a few beers I'm just not sure you're old enough yet but they're and they're going to you're going to play darts with them yeah it's Luke Littler at your local Luke Littler at your local there you go that's a good one this sounds class so from the 11th of August people can apply for this yeah on behalf of themselves or I guess their local pub my god this will go massive I presume all nuts will be provided I assume so good luck please be within a few miles don't we maybe go to Wales or something nowhere far come on that's not Wales is not far from you is it it depends where okay fair enough fair enough listen I'm conscious that you've got a theory test to go to and you're going to Australia so make sure you pack a load of nuts mate you take them with you on the journey sick time lucky did you say with the theory test it will be come on do you want me to dance for you again because it worked for you with the world so if I do a quick dance so it might just make things happen if you're on the theory test no he's good are you alright alright so before I do hopefully go and pass my theory yeah oh really look at that oh mate that's unbelievable science sealed the lute there we go do you know what this is going to go prior to place mate in the Chumballon bar which is where we record all our podcasts get it in get it framed we'll get it out there mate nice one beautiful if it's not in the frame in time we'll wear it down to Alipali at Christmas time yeah mate we'll 100 % be there because as a podcast a whole team we always go around Christmas time so you will see us there I might be wearing this don't avoid me alright Luke Lillo everyone legend brilliant thank you brilliant cheers mate thank you thank you