Miles Kane’s Crazy Day With Baggio, Untold Arctic Monkeys Backstage Stories & 2000’s Nostalgia

0:00Miles Kane: Hello and welcome to that Peter Crouch podcast with me Peter Crouch, Notorious SID and Chris Stark are with me. Is everyone okay? Really good lads. Good weekend? Yeah. Good weekend? Yeah, pleasant. Very good actually, yeah. Yeah, decent Sunday sort of session. Sunday was brilliant football-wise, wasn't it? There's a lot of stuff. What's that? F1 as well. We were just reminiscing just before we got started. I think we should just bring this into the podcast as well. yeah well we're reminiscing about blockbuster and um it's just a real shame that's kind of gone out of business now i'll get the streaming platforms you know prime paramount whatever you know netflix whatever you want to there's loads going on isn't there but it was something special about blockbuster what it was and in a world where we're talking about rights for football i mean because it's going to get so confusing if all these different companies have different bits of the football you know you're having to pay for a lot of subscriptions and things like that.

0:53Miles Kane: It's a hell of a lot going on, isn't it? It's confusing, if anything, but just imagine a world where, like, Netflix and all those ones didn't come into play and Blockbuster was still holding strong on the high street. Yeah. So good. Well, I just felt it was a good day out. You know, like, you go down there with your Blockbuster card, and quite often, say, you're a little bit later in life, you'd be hung over from the Saturday night and you think Sunday's a film day, and you'd have to go out with a trackie on some flip flops and your Blockbuster card, and you go in there and go and pick out your snacks, pick your film and then never take it back ever pick up the empty box take it to the counter what was your confectionery of choice or go to sweets I felt like I always had to get a popcorn a sweet popcorn but then I'd regret that and I'd get some chocolate as well I'd probably regret them as well I prefer the jellies oh really you?

1:52Miles Kane: yeah it was mainly popcorn yeah I was Bailey's I was the Bailey's Haagen-Dazs and minstrels didn't they do Ben and Jerry's in there as well yeah I think it might have done actually yeah do you mean the little tubs with the spoons yeah as part of it yeah but they also done the big tubs did they but do you remember the independent polished off in one sitting do you remember the independent video shops there were videos cassette videos I'm going way back now because there was one on Pixhane Lane where I used to live and it was an independent video shop the video got and they were always a bit like they always had beards and were into like you know like like some sort of what's that one what's that what's that game called you know like Legend of Zelda or something like that you know like they'd always have beards and they'd have Warhammer yeah you know they're into like they paint little men fight or something I know exactly what you mean do you know what I mean I'm a Pokemon man.

2:51Miles Kane: Yeah, yeah. No, you're out there. You know what I mean. You don't do that. I think figures. You're talking about the sort of figurines. It means Warhammer. You mean Warhammer? Well, something like that. There's a type of person that works in a video shop is what I'm saying. Yeah, well, we used to have that in Watford. I remember distinctly just outside the shopping centre, you'd go past the Warhammer shop and there was guys and I never really knew what they were up to. Yeah. But they were all huddled around. Yeah. And there was some sort of They're painting little men. Yeah, they're painting little men that fight each other.

3:24Miles Kane: They work in a video shop, the independent ones. I know exactly what you mean, right? Because I remember when I played for Reading and lived in Reading, I went through a spell of going through horror films, like really scary horror films. I remember going into this independent one, and I remember saying to him, I've watched this, I've watched this. I said, what have you got? And it's like... Do you want to see the stuff in the back? No, no, no. He literally went underneath the desk. Underneath the desk? He got it at home. I swear to you, my mum does as well. You got it underneath the desk. You went, this is good.

3:51Miles Kane: And just slid it over. Really? So did blockbusters do porn? That's a good point. I don't know. I don't think they did. I think you could get an 18 in there. That was your limit. Don't think they'd done Frankie Vaughan, did they? I don't think so. No, I don't think they did. But then also, you see, this was just slightly before my time, the idea that you would have a video if you wanted to watch anything like that, if you were so inclined. you'd have to rent a video to access it would you? Well yeah I guess you would have I think that's more more of a Soho vibe really isn't it more than the local video shop and then do you remember with Blockbusters you'd have to then post it and post it back through I'm going to post it but you were a successful footballer by then weren't you sort of getting there so you just well no I reckon I've still got a couple of things I've got some pieces at home now blockbusters well it's been out of business for a long time is it not yeah i don't know if it's evolved on the warhammer do you do you understand the sport of warhammer like i don't understand i don't i'll never understand no does anyone here know how to play jame jamey do you do you definitely you're a warhammer man do you have to he was he dabbles so is it is it like is it like you know how we did sabutio and you'd have the football figures and you'd play a game.

5:17Miles Kane: Is it a game? A little bit. You like roll dice like Dungeons and Dragons. Yeah, that's what I was trying to get. Not Legend of Zelda, Dungeons and Dragons. This is the person that works in a video shop. Yeah. That's what I'm trying to say. And they play this game with the dice. Yeah. Love it. It's one for us to maybe look at one week, you know, try and give it a go. If someone could come in and teach us, you might get into it. Dungeons and Dragons or Warhammer something like that but yeah I mean let us know if you're into it you know email in to another podcast what have you been up to the weekend did you watch any of football I had a good weekend I tell you what I went to Saturday I went to watch my lad play at you don't know this AFC Totten in the Southampton yeah that's right yeah he played for daggers away down at Totten and Andy Carroll scored a hat-trick.

6:13Miles Kane: Did he really? Big AC got a hat-trick. Still going strong. Going strong. They won five. How's he looking? Did he play well? He came off after 60 minutes. Job done. Second goal. Took it lovely. Lobbed the keeper. Yeah, he was doing all right. He was good, yeah. So I was down that sort of neck of the woods Saturday and then I went to watch Come Alive, The Greatest Showman on Sunday, which was brilliant. Well, I know that because you took my little girl down there with you. They loved it. As did I. Did you? very very good if anyone gets a chance to go seriously no I'm being serious this is the greatest show it's so good it's so good is it yeah and do you know the bad thing is I've never seen the film oh it's a great film I know all the songs in it but I've never seen the film yeah yeah it is really really good that's pretty good I am it was Alan Devonshire at Maidenhead it was his last game on Saturday they've been on a bit of a poor run so anyway he's gone but he's been there a long long time done a couple of different spells so that was that was on Saturday How about your weekend?

7:11Miles Kane: Anything? Yeah, lots of stuff, mate. Obviously, I was at the Palace-Masher-Tunite game, which was an interesting game. Yeah, good game, actually. The manager came out a bit punchy after that, didn't he? Yeah, a little bit, yeah. I mean, it was quite nice to see, but I feel like those post-match interviews you get in a bit of trouble for if you're a manager. Yeah, a little bit, yeah. I don't think you should get in trouble, but... We went for the board a little bit, didn't we? Yeah, yeah. Just the lack of spending, wasn't it? lack of spending the amount of games that they've had scoring the depth of their squad yeah first time he's come out really because he's contracts up at the end of the season I believe is it yeah yeah that's right yeah I think he might have had watched this space he'll be he'll be open to offers won't I imagine there'll be plenty of people that want his services yeah done a great job yeah just so before we carry on quick shout out to Billy Bonds oh yeah passed away we are obviously about football nostalgia and we love our past and what a legend talk about club legends legends is said a lot isn't it and yeah he passed away I think the tribute on the TV they were saying that he was unrelenting in standards in training just wouldn't accept anything less set the tone incredible yeah West Ham legend but also a really nice fella you know I was with Joe Carwin and he was broke as well and he said how amazing he was for his family and stuff like that when he was coming through.

8:40Miles Kane: He was actually manager, wasn't he? Harry was assistant before. But yeah. All right. Well, thoughts are with him and his family. Okay, scores on the weekend. Sid, we're on fire as a team, if I'm being honest. We're going to class ourselves as a team. Sid's obviously on fire more so than us. Another three-pointer with the one-all, Sid. Yeah. Chelsea-Arsenal, which was another great game of football. Well played to you. I got the one point. Chris, you got none. so that puts us on Chris 28 languishing myself 29 and said you really are something special this year they're saying the boys were saying though the standard of the league is much higher this season yeah it feels that way we had a lot of blanks fired last season it felt like a lot of naught on the board wasn't it out of a possible I don't know how many points are available 3, 6, 9 well it's looking like the points that the third place person will be are likely what would have won it last Yeah, it's almost like when West Ham went down with 40 odd points, you know, 42 or something.

9:42Miles Kane: Well, I'm not getting ahead of myself. It's a long way to go. You are, and that's the problem. I think my only question would be, did you definitely say 1-0 in that Chelsea game? I definitely did say 1-0, but when I was watching the game, because I've got a bit of a superstition where I don't like looking what I predicted. Because I forget. I know we all forget. You forget. And you certainly forget as well. And I've done it before where I've looked at it and it's happening and I'm correcting all of a sudden someone will score and my points are gone. So now I can't look during the game. I have to look after.

10:17Miles Kane: And during it, I thought I had 2-1. Arsenal. I did do that as well. But I had one on. I like watching you boys on TV doing the football when it's a game that I know that we've got the score. I really enjoy it. Trying to be impartial. Yeah. But I am partial. That's doing the round. by the way I've seen that I've seen that a bit as well the old Denmark ass flag

10:47Miles Kane: it's gone massive again also I have to say fair play to Amrum as well because he was getting a lot of grief for the Everton game not being able to beat 10 men and they come out and they did well second off Palace are really struggling after Europe coming back and then the second half of the game you could probably see they were leggy but Man United took advantage of that it's been a bit of a bogey ground for them as well wasn't it Sellers Park yeah they've really struggled yeah United to win it so that was a massive a massive game for them it feels as though it's just turning maybe a little bit there they still weren't great first half they weren't great second half they was much better but it just feels like it's just maybe starting to turn for United what do you think yeah good yeah and I thought it was interesting how the manager is sort of straight down the tunnel at the end as well I thought like feels like he's in a bit of a kind of alright, on to the next one, on to the next one they've got a good run of games now as well I'd be interested to see how they get on Right,

11:50Miles Kane: let's get into the football this next part of the podcast is supported by Pardew Power it's a big weekend fixture this is Leeds United versus Liverpool the odds on this are 16-5 Leeds 10 against your 42 pound back Liverpool strong favourites, 3-4 they were in a dark place Liverpool real bad place but seem to have come out you know West Ham you can't West Ham are struggling let's be honest so you would expect Liverpool to win at one but this is a difficult away fixture notorious game this at Leeds as well first thing Mark Vaduka is the first thing oh is it really yeah oh mine's Tony Eboa Tony Eboa off the bar the volley off the bar J-Mo in goal Vial Vaduka it was the because it remembers the early kickoff like 12 o 'clock hat trick and he scored four I think four I think he got four your dink was one of them the love that's what I remember was the dink do you remember this vaguely vaguely yeah vaguely yeah Leeds Liverpool big game so so what are you saying I mean like Liverpool get the result obviously the big story is is Mo Salah getting getting dropped is Zach scoring yeah yeah yeah took it well actually that goal took it really well but do you not I still feel with Liverpool it feels like it's blood in the water do you know what I mean like I still think if you're Leeds you still feel you can I think certainly at home like with Leeds at home versus Liverpool there's some atmosphere there there will be I think this will be a tough game for Liverpool this I didn't realise Liverpool was on a bad run as they was they lost 9-12 games unbelievable across all competitions 9-12 it is and some of the manner of those defeats PSV like at home the Forest game there's a few there's been a few bad ones this is massive do you think ESAC will be almost you get them goals then you can really lean into that that sort of reputation and I got on slots kind of comments after the game was like let us not take it like so literally I've held him back he's he's barely had minutes he's been a bit of a stop start I don't think you can judge him on this start he's had I also don't think even when the way he scored his goal I don't think his confidence has ever wavered you know when one of those where he's lost confidence nah I don't think that's happened that's what he's made up is it no I think he just needs to get a little bit of a run going just like as you say minutes and then he's yeah especially for a striker yeah I mean he's off and running I think he's off and running I think he'll get goals and I think Wurtz will be better because of that as well I think he'll find him in little pockets and spaces Alright, so this is the turning point for Liverpool then from Crouchy.

14:32Miles Kane: Yeah, having said that, I do think this is going to be a difficult game, yeah. I feel like a horny draw coming on here. What's the people out there saying? Let's have a look. You know the folder where you get all the message requests? You get a few new names on there as well. So we've got George Maddox, Chester Pratley. That's a great name, isn't it? Chester Prattley might come back to him Darren Bowden Stevie G Stevie G's been in touch Stevie G go on he fancies Liverpool Stevie G is going Liverpool 3-1 win of course he would Stevie G's Stevie G's 73 with that tally well he's not that old no no JT's in here as well yeah what's he saying Leeds all day no

15:30Miles Kane: All right, where was that? What was the good name at the start? Pratley, wasn't it? Chester Pratley. Yeah, Chester Pratley. Chester Copperpot. What film is that from? Chester Copperpot. Bex is in here as well. Okay, let's get Chester Pratley. Let's have a look. He's gone 2-1 Liverpool win. I like it. You've been going missionary quite a lot recently. It's been coming in. I think I've had to stop doing it because I was getting a reputation for it. You've snuck in and in true missionary style has been ploughing away with it. He's getting solid results. That's the job, doesn't it? When you get the rhythm, it just flows.

16:06Miles Kane: Yeah. So on that, I'm going to go with Chester here and go 2-1 Liverpool. I hate doing this, but I'm going to go for Leeds 2-1. Oh, that's massive. Oh, no, you're not. Are you really? That's huge from you for so many different reasons. I don't think they're out of it yet. Fuck. I don't want, I don't obviously don't want this to happen, but you know, I'll be happy in both ways because, you know, I want Liverpool to win this, the game. But I need the points and I just, I just think it'd be a difficult place to go and I think, and I don't think they're quite out of the woods yet. I think West Ham are a poor side at the moment.

16:42Miles Kane: Whoa, you're throwing me there. that is, you said 2-1, I should really go for a draw. to I just fancy Liverpool I just fancy Liverpool I'm sorry you've got to surely surely they can they can do it they looked much better the other day I'm going to go for a Liverpool 1-0 win 1-0 Liverpool okay alright you sure on your one yeah I think I I don't know you can't go against imagine if Leeds do imagine if you change and Leeds actually win that 2-1 I've got to take it I've got to have broad shoulders I've got to take it and just think that there's an opportunity here for me to to gain on Sid's ear pull away from Chris Leeds are at home it's a difficult game this I don't care what you say the odds are firmly against Leeds and I hope Liverpool do it but I'm going to stick with my 2-1 prediction.

17:48Miles Kane: This is brilliant. I respect that. I really do. Okay, we've got Paddy's boost here. We pick a leg of the CrouchPod bet builder. The odds on the bet builder are then boosted by 20 % and put on the special section of the website and app. Right, okay. I'm going to have to go with Dominic Calvert-Lewin to score first. Okay. I'm going to go for a player to be carded. I'm going to go for a Leeds player as well. Ethan Ampadu. Nice. okay player to have two plus shots on target depends if he starts isn't it go Mo Salah don't know whether he started even if he comes on he might just come and make an impact that's true odds are correct at the time of recording please gamble responsibly moving on to Arsenal versus Brentford now these games are tonight Wednesday night yes I mean they look good Arsenal don't they I mean Chelsea are always going to give them a tough game I think they're doing well at the moment but it was a difficult game against Chelsea but I think it will be restored against Brentford I think Arsenal are strong at home aren't they Brentford are going good Brentford are going good Keith Andrews doing a really really good job but yeah you can't see past Arsenal getting this one done at home I know they've got experience Brentford they've got some good players is it Thiago is it yeah he got Thiago obviously Jordan Henderson done brilliantly doing well yeah I just think Arsenal will win this it's one of those Brentford have had a good season so far but bad away form yeah I think I think if this is I was going to say Griffin Park there but I think if this was at Brentford the GTEC community stadium I'd be inclined to think Brentford could get something out of it unfortunately away against Arsenal I don't think they can yeah I'm going to go all out I'm going to go first here boys I'm going to go Arsenal back to a clean sheet I know they're missing Gabriel still I'm still going to say Arsenal win this 3-0 I'm happy to go Go on then I'm going to go 3-1 Arsenal Brentford to score Igor Thiago to Nick 1 Okay I'm going to go I'm going to go Arsenal 2-0 Moving on to Brighton vs Villa I suppose they're two of the informed teams aren't they at the moment Yeah, it's a strange one, Brighton, because they've gone a bit under the radar.

20:14Miles Kane: They haven't played... Good win on the weekend. Yeah, massive win on the weekend. And I've watched them a few times and they haven't really been... I don't know if this sounds disrespectful, like pulling up trees. They could play much better. I mean, they've not really been in the headlines of playing real good football and they're scoring loads. Obviously, Danny Welbeck scoring goals, but I feel as though there's still a lot more to come. And obviously, Villa, yeah, they're flying high as well. bit of a bogey team as well I think Aston Villa for for Brighton they have won in seven of the last eight between meetings Brighton at home I think I'm DJing the Brighton team Christmas party are you really?

20:57Miles Kane: I think I am yeah special request I was going to say what are they like? great lads alright so just the results then please lads well you go first mate I think we've been first twice this is the most difficult one I could quite easily come out with zero points on this one across the board it was an awful idea it was four nil at half time okay I'm going to go I'm going to stick with Brighton 2-1 yeah I like that I'm just looking at the DMs for help here James Suckling I'm drawn to here says alright the lads BBQC Copper Bollocks and Cardi P Cardi P is that a new one Copper Bollocks yeah I often wear cardigans and my name is P so it ended up being Cardi P a few people going drawers so it's just whether you go Horny Desmond or I don't know what 3-all would be but I'm horny horny horny I could see a horny drawer I might go 1-all are you I've been to that you gone Brighton 2-1 2-1 gonna go change it up gonna go Villa 2-1 right little bit of admin for you guys if you are enjoying this top quality content if you like a de goods then make sure that you hit subscribe right now okay we're trying to gather an army here first thing you can do to be part of this podcast is hit subscribe do it now okay that's the games done now for something slightly different good friend of mine Mr Miles Kane

22:42Miles Kane: Right ladies and gentlemen Miles Kane Hello mate Thank you for having me boys Thank you It's good to have you mate Cheers mate I'm honoured to be here No we listen I don't know if you know but I live not far from Miles and we used to knock about a little bit together in around Belsides Park In Belsides Park back in the day

22:57Peter Crouch: that's probably what over 10 10, 15 years ago now isn't it so yeah we've had a long connection We have yeah

23:06Miles Kane: I used to go to the gigs and stuff like that it was weird we had a lot of fun yeah no clocking off there is there no clocking off is this what you described as the good old days I would say the good old days I'd say the same

23:18Peter Crouch: it was god damn them days yeah yeah it was we had a lot of fun wasn't it but we've we've come through it all and we're still here that's it and you've got so you've got a new album out I've got a new album that came out about a month ago called Sunlight in the Shadows that I made in Nashville with uh dan airback who's from the black keys who's i'm a massive black keys fan and uh it was an incredible experience really man we'd on a whim uh we sort of got my manager to email his manager last summer to sort of see if he would be interested in a little meet up and writing and i went over there and we had a real strong connection and then after the first day of sort of finishing writing he's like man i want to produce this record man and went back in january and recorded it with him uh over there with these amazing musicians and assigned to his label as well uh for this album and it's been a yeah been a bit of a whirlwind and um for ages i was still thinking because it happened so quick and sort of in a moment it was most free-flowing album i've made and it's my 11th album in total my sixth solo album and it's been uh yeah it kind of i think it unlocks something in me that i didn't know needed unlocking or something or don't know the certain freedom and and sort of uh enjoyment in making it that was pretty beautiful

24:42Miles Kane: really you know yeah and what what's uh what what's the vibe is it different is it black

24:47Peter Crouch: keys is it still miles k yeah well it's kind of i think it's it's probably a perfect hybrid of both and you know it's like um weirdly i've always been into his tunes black keys his solo stuff and that and only since we started working together that i realized how similar our music is in a way you know we've got our fundamentals with the rock and roll stuff we love but you know in terms of that sort of doing that rock and roll thing probably in a bit of a way of Kasabian do it as well you know with like those big riffs and a big single on chorus it's like our version of pop music in it in in a sort of feel-good rock and roll way and uh we captured we captured it pretty good I think on this record you know those big riffs and it does have that black easy sound because I didn't take enemy gear over there so she's using all of his stuff so it's you know when you're playing his guitar and lamp it's going to sound like them in it but it's so it's kind of the same as what i would use anyway so it was uh it was pretty special mate yeah so exciting isn't it we had

25:55Miles Kane: um we had surge on the podcast i've seen that it was a good podcast it was a good episode it's good

25:59Peter Crouch: fun and um he was telling us all about this gig that's happening in finsbury park yeah it's in the diary for you boys and i'm on that you're you're doing it aren't you yeah that'd be great yeah that's gonna be some part exactly and i think again is that thing of what we were up and on a bit, a bit of, you know, we've known each other for a long time and I guess that's a sort of similar time probably we all met Serge, give or take as well, wasn't it? So it's kind of the journey that we're on, you know, you's doing this and we've got our own stuff going on and then to sort of reunite for like a big gig in the summer in London feels pretty special, you know?

26:35Miles Kane: Yeah, well, obviously we're a football podcast but obviously, you know, we've met so many great people over the years but have you got any a connection with your music have you ever been like on a FIFA game or have you been you know on Sky on yeah

26:50Peter Crouch: and I love it when I see that yeah you know what I mean like on the highlights yeah like a highlight the boxing the footy yeah I love that

26:56Miles Kane: Soccer AM you must have been on a lot of times because that's that obviously yeah did that loads

27:02Peter Crouch: and I had Don't Forget You Are which was an early song that was on the FIFA so yeah I love all that stuff because it is a connection isn't it you know It's like the mentality of the sport and the music. I feel that there is a certain point of, I think why the two sort of align so well is that sort of mindset of sort of keeping your blinkers on and you do have to dedicate and focus yourself. And I think that's why, you know, like with the boxing, the footy, the music, it's all kind of, it's all a bit Rocky Balbauer, isn't it? You know what I mean? to a point we're empowering

27:42Miles Kane: isn't it I think the music overall then whether it's going to be sort of outtakes or the best bits of the World Cup or you say like FIFA music over that I love a montage yeah do you get a buzz because obviously when I'm in a montage with a good tune it makes it it's just a montage with no music yeah no I know it's amazing

28:05Peter Crouch: how like you can well it becomes sort of theatrical innit when you add the music to say a sport montage, it's kind of, yeah, it becomes, it gets, it's like a Rocky film. It's the, the workouts in the Rocky film and there's something, you know, that sort of cinematic music thing mixed with like the fight. It is. Yeah. I don't know. I find that really endearing to be honest.

28:29Miles Kane: You know, like say Sky want to do a montage or, you know, TNT are doing the Champions League final. They want to use one of your two. Do they have to call you up and say, we want to use one of your two?

28:39Peter Crouch: not on the montage stuff I think I think they just use it on sports but say if you were doing say the FIFA game or stuff like that there's something I'm looking at Shiv my manager there is there a fee? yeah so when they use like the sunlight and shadows on this yeah we'll have our own montage

29:02Miles Kane: you got obviously I remember when I asked you to come on you were talking we were talking about the Roberto Baggio tune that you, and I think, you know, we might have a little surprise. We might have a little bit of something later. But talk us through about Badgeau and what happened.

29:17Peter Crouch: So, Badgeau was, World Cup 94, I'm 39. So I was, whatever. My God, my fucking math, whatever, eight. And that was like the first, think, footy thing that drew me in, to be honest, you know. And also on Sunday, because we didn't have Sky you'd watch Galazio and all that Football Italia yeah Football Italia you know the little fella with the espresso and swear and all that

29:47Miles Kane: James Richardson I remember thinking I've talked about this before but I remember I was like Dad look why is this coffee so small yeah yeah bro and I was like it just looked like a different world yeah yeah now it's like

30:00Peter Crouch: God I'd be coming so I don't know there was just something drawn into that And I think when you saw those Italian players and the kits, I got kind of obsessed with the look of it. And I think seeing a Baggio sort of character, not knowing that until the older I got about his story and he's quite the spirituality of his journey. If he got like a crazy injury that he was written off. And then he went into a record store to buy a Bruce Springsteen album. and the guy behind the record store was like, you are one of the greatest footballers. He goes, no, but I'm never going to play again because I've got this knee injury.

30:40Peter Crouch: This was prior to that World Cup. And he was still quite a name then. And he gave him this book on Buddhism and they sort of did a mantra every day to sort of be like, you will overcome this. You will get there. I guess it's a bit like a manifestation thing and it worked for him. So he's a strong believer in that. And it was sort of, it's something that I didn't know till later on, but I found it was such a, powerful story and i think you know that the mind is such a strong thing of what it can do when he was completely written off and cut the story short that wrote this song on the album prior to this one it's called bad geo and it was about me and my mums watching that and being sort of transfixed with it and it was maybe sort of slight tongue-in-cheek as well but it was like there you show me the way to go and i was feeling lost and low i used to watch watch you steal the show and it was a song that kind of wrote and forgot about it and then i was making the one man band album with my cousin james skelly who was in the band the coral he was producing it and there's the day before the album we picked the songs we were doing and i found this demo of bad show and i sent it to rj i was because they care i played it to some people but they didn't really understand what you're talking about bad show for you didn't understand and james like why why aren't we doing this because obviously he knows me from our childhood and he was like you were the only kid when we'd meet in the park we'd all have the liverpool kit on you'd have the italian kit always had an edge people always wanted to be different and um and so i think there was a strong connection and he understood him he's like we've got to do this tune because this is so you and it's amazing that uh i'm glad we did it and it become probably one of the most popular tunes on the album and it's one that people really relate to and then cut the story short he badger heard the song and he invited me to his house in vicenza so i went a couple of years ago for lunch and it was just him and his wife and his daughter at midday and it was uh it was it was an incredible experience you went to I didn't know you went to Roberto Baggio's home

32:56Miles Kane: he was my absolute hero sort of divine ponytail you know when he come in off the left do you remember that goal in the 99 World Cup and I think he come inside and just it was just beautiful it was beautiful to watch there was a little bit before because I was 1990 when I first got on

33:10Peter Crouch: with Baggio so yeah 94's coming towards the end a bit wasn't it for him but it was just there and meeting him it was just what was he like the most incredible guy like just like this really you know he could be sat here with us and you'd love it and we got there and it was like the big gates and he was just you know we parked the car because i had my mate with me we made like a little documentary about it and uh you know he was stood at i'm at the top of the driveway and he was stood there like that and he had his flip-flops on his arms out and I I sort of ran to him bro you know when you you know when the you know when the the the sort of say you're like over there but you know it's kind of like it's it's so it's quite a bit of a walk so you don't know there's like a there's a time frame for not like walking in like hello mate how are you so there was like this like build up and uh I kind of you know like I went red but then I was like sort of started to run then stop you know like you sort of so i ended up like doing this weird skip to him and uh and he just gave us a hug and he was like oh you know he and we walked in he's like do you want a coffee and he goes oh do you want the rose i said oh let's get the rose out you didn't want the little coffee at that point i was so i was i need something to take this edge off and uh you know when he laid out those little crisps on the bowl there was a meat platter and and it was just a beautiful experience and and we talked about that thing and he kept putting his hand on you and my heart going like how much he was touched by the song and the sort of um i think that understanding of like of that believing in yourself it come down to a bit of that and we talked about the sort of spiritualness of life and those things i talked about before with his journey and stuff and you know he gave me this book on on buddhism at the end and and it's of it's not not to get in a preachy one but i think it's just that anything just to give yourself a little minute and a bit of space just to sort of whether you need to reset or just to sort of realign i don't know i just did sort of it was a powerful experience you know what i mean the whole time and afterwards i called me mum you know and like i cried in the car you know it's it's sort of it's a beautiful emotion isn't it and things like that in life you know when you're thinking about you wrote this song about a childhood you were fascinated with this player of this amazing talent and the way he looked and then sort of whatever it is 20 years later this song that you record and talking about the childhood and then you're meeting him it's sort of uh it's a testament as well to those things that are real and you know maybe if i hadn't made the album with r james who was producing it because he knows me growing up and as a kid that song may not have even made the album you know what i mean so there's so many points to life to that connect that i feel become very more clear for me anyway the older you get and i think i'm sort of i think it's i like being in tune with that it doesn't always happen but it's like when it does it you know it's you're having a glass of rose with badgio and he's putting his hand on your heart being like you're cool and he gave me like you know yeah an italian shirt he wore in a game and yeah you know it's

36:34Miles Kane: sort of it's powerful you should do this with more footballers i'm thinking clearly works you know yeah yeah ronaldo yeah messi yeah here we go same song yeah what uh if you come across any other footballers on your on your travels anyone comes to the shows or i know leighton baines was a fan Layton was, yeah. Got eyes to come.

36:58Peter Crouch: Yeah, you and Layton were, and I seen him a couple of months ago, he was down here with his missus and that. Yeah, because Layton was, when I first met Layton, I was, I'm a big fan of WWE, right? And I went to one of the shows with me mate and Layton was there, but his excuse was he took his kids. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I did that. You know what I mean? He had an excuse. I was just there two of me, like, you know what I mean?

37:25Miles Kane: I did this years ago years and years ago I think I was about 15 or something like that and the Spice Girls were on at the Royal Albert Hall and I said I've got a little sister I said just come with me to this I did that she said who are they I said I took her along

37:44Peter Crouch: I just left her there and just absolutely buzzing off it yeah so yeah we met we were about 21 and I was still living in Liverpool that time and yeah I mean he's a great guy and he'd come to a load of gigs with us. He'd been to Glastonbury, been on the tour bus. So yeah, he's seen a lot back in the day. Yeah.

38:04Miles Kane: You are a Red though, right? You're a Liverpool fan. What was your first kind of, what got you into Liverpool?

38:09Peter Crouch: It was probably, when I was living, you were probably playing there. I went to Anfield with my J-lad. We had a flat on Hope Street in Liverpool. Oh yeah. And it was, I'm just trying to think, like when Torres around that era and we were just I'd just go and make Jay Ladd who got me into it basically and so it was probably around that time yeah you know what I mean yeah and what's what's

38:35Miles Kane: what was it like Liverpool in those days when you're when you're gigging as well and like when you make a name for yourself did you have a good time around the city I mean we had a fucking

38:44Peter Crouch: belter time yeah we had yeah and we were right in that we were right in town we and me mate Jay Ladd after six months I had to kick him out though because I was like I needed my own space but we added a belt at the time and obviously we know what Liverpool was like mate I remember actually did we go like the news bar

39:00Miles Kane: yeah

39:01Peter Crouch: did we have nights in there

39:02Miles Kane: we have had many a night

39:03Peter Crouch: it was a good one that was what is this place

39:06Miles Kane: that was it was the news bar it was brilliant the famous news bar yeah

39:10Peter Crouch: is that still there that was kind of where all the footy play is when I think I'd started doing music so I would swan in there probably was it with you probably I think so Oh, yeah, you know what I mean? So, you know, it was, probably thought, made it. You know what I mean?

39:28Miles Kane: Yeah.

39:29Peter Crouch: You know what I'm saying there.

39:30Miles Kane: I don't know if you've heard this story, right? I went with Miles, right? At the Camden Roundhouse. I think I've told you this story before. It was generally, it was the Apple thing they did, the Roundhouse. I went with him and he said, I'll come down. He said, the Arctic Monkeys are playing tonight. So we'll go down. Obviously, I know Alex, he doesn't show the part of him. And I'll sit next to him. and he goes right I've got to go down and do something and I was like okay so he's walked he's walked down and I've walked behind him and we've gone to the side of the stage and I've gone he's not bearing in mind he's not told me anything what he's going to do right so now I'm by the side of the stage I'm like what are we doing now and then the fella he walks then on stage and the fella gives him a guitar and he goes on and then he bangs out 505 he didn't tell me so I'm like I've just watched it happen and it was like it was nothing it was honestly one of the best moments i've ever seen the way he's just come on banged it out and then he's gone back like we're going to get a beer now i was like has that just happened fuck me you make that sound like a film i wish i'd have filmed it it was like the walk on and everything give me the guitar

40:40Peter Crouch: it's banged out 505 because we were watching them in the crowd for a bit when we and then Don't then just put themselves on stage with a guitar.

40:49Miles Kane: Yeah. In my head. Yeah. I don't know. Yeah. Just what were you? Cause you, there was no preparation. There was nothing. You literally just walked from the crowd, played five Oh five. When we're back to you probably. That's like him coming and grabbing you in the crowd. Yeah. Just joining the game.

41:10Peter Crouch: It's fucking hell. It's quite a, yeah. When you say it out loud, it's quite a it's a moment roundhouse is mega as well isn't it do you know what I mean it's so good but for that

41:19Miles Kane: for you and the arty monkeys that feels that's a special night seeing them in oh it was amazing all of you guys for me personally it's quite a small venue it's one of my best tunes it's a cracking tune it's such a tune I play that a lot

41:31Peter Crouch: in the car I do yeah killer riff on that yeah and it's yeah it sort of really stood the test of time I think that tune I think it's one of their biggest

41:42Miles Kane: do you still speak to Alex and stuff yeah man he's like

41:45Peter Crouch: yeah no he's one of my best mates so I've seen him about a month ago you know we've been there doing a small lap of Victoria Park and then getting a macchiato so times have changed at the minute you know what I mean

41:59Miles Kane: yeah

41:59Peter Crouch: we're doing yeah it's more of a plod these days around the park and they're cutting it short to get a coffee basically mate is where we're at at the minute do you still play football at all no you know because I used to when i was younger i loved it and then i had i was playing a bit of like five other side down here but then i was just it would do me head in there little friendly games not in but geez is just coming i broke a rib fractured my elbow and so i had to stop just because of the thing of like you know what i mean it's annoying really on that thing you know when you're like you you don't get that aggression in a boxing gym you know like just like people going in And then I guess, I couldn't play my guitar.

42:43Peter Crouch: You know what I mean? It's just like, it's annoying really. Because I do, I like where. You must have been half decent.

42:48Miles Kane: You must have had a little target on your back to say, listen, he's their danger. I just had a fake baggio pony time. He's wearing a, you know, a 1990 Italian baggio shirt. He's going to get two foot, isn't he?

43:00Peter Crouch: Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah. I've got a fake tan on and a wig. You know what I mean?

43:06Miles Kane: But you are, I mean, listen, your clothes and your club has always been a big part of your life, right? Like what is, what's the, where did that all start?

43:13Peter Crouch: And that's just always been in me, you know, Peter. Like, you know, I've never, I've never had a stylist or anything like that. It's like, even before the music, you know, in my mums and, you know, growing up, you know, I wanted, my first thing that I always wanted that I had the vision of was the full black lacoste track suit. You know, like, and I think it stems from that. and in school you know we'd have uh like the rockport shoes we'd wear that with trackies you know it's a very sort of northern maybe it's like that terrace culture thing in it you know maybe more this day and age it'd be more like stone island and stuff like that but i don't know if you had them rockport boots and we'd have our socks over it so it kind of stems from there and then you get into like the 60s thing and obviously like you're looking at and the mod culture paul weller oasis as well you know beatles so i don't know it just always drew me in with the hair then you got liberty and strokes you've got the leather jackets and it's just something that i've sort of i find i really enjoy it and it's important to me you know what i mean and sometimes you sort of you feel i've had stages wearing a jumpsuit makeup you know i've gone out there and then you go okay let's rewind and then we reset button it'd be like you know the mod vibe the fred perry and that and then you know you grow your hair you shave it so it's just i just go off like what i'm feeling at that time you know what i mean it's mad these eras as you talk about them

44:48Miles Kane: though because you talk about the libertines and um and strokes and then you talk about arctic monkeys and yourself you talk about that experience it it feels like the parallel i sometimes see with football like who who do you who do you see as like who impresses you that's coming through at the moment who's the kind of like apprentice who's the young footballer in there you mean

45:09Peter Crouch: in your world yeah yeah when you see there's a there's a new young band speaking on that mod scene called the molotovs it's a brother and sister they're super young they're about I don't know 19 20 if that even and um you know they're sort of fans of us and you sort of you know you I see and actually there's another there's another like called Tom A. Smith then you've got like even Liam's son they're supporting us now that I've become old like that was say me with Liam and Wella and stuff and I'd look up to them and now you see these younger kids that are like that have been inspired by us thank god and now it's i'm not the young guy anymore i've sort of taken so it's kind of like i don't know if passing the baton is too dramatic or too intense or something but i do feel there is a sense of that thing of like you know what i'm saying to the those younger bands that i just mentioned like what liam or paul wello said to me at that age or you know or when you see they've got that sort of nervous energy sort of bit angsty you know i can relate to it because i was like that you know what i'm saying what was that so

46:24Miles Kane: who is your like the heroes growing up and did they help you like you mentioned liam gallagher paul weller there yeah they obviously a big influence on your career why you did it but

46:33Peter Crouch: also were they good with you yeah amazing both of them you know no and liam no song some bvs on my first solo album as a sort of nod uh liam when i first moved to london sort of took me under his wing around that time you know become and would probably be saying similar things to what we're saying now of it being sort of passing the baton or like the generational thing or it's like it's just like one big circle and when you're young you don't really understand that do you until you get older than you're in that position and then you know paul weller would be you know in my early 20s mid 20s he got asked who would you like to work with in an interview and he said me and i just started out and then next minute we were in the shoe joe and we wrote songs together and you know he he's been like kind of um i'll probably say he's been probably the most mentor he wanted in a way just of someone that like and i so respect it the older i've got that you know there is something about embracing the youth and the new that i think helps both parties and i think if it when you see something in someone that is whether they're looking up at you or you know you can see what they want to do and if you can help them or encourage them i think it's such a healthy thing and and i see that now you know it's it's um it's beautiful i remember like you know when i was with well and there'd be other people like me doing similar music and I'd be like oh they're robbing me off they're doing this and I remember him saying no you stick as you are and you know that you don't get jealous of if anyone overtakes you or whatever because you're in this for a long game and that was when I was about 27 he said that 26 and that always stuck with me that advice you know what I mean because you and it's like it's weird you see it I can see it in the younger kids now it's it's kind of yeah it's it's kind of like so it's the same journey i guess we're all on to a point in it what um what was it like in london moving down

48:42Miles Kane: and liam showing you around well what was london like in those days well it's surreal and it's

48:49Peter Crouch: everything you dream of you know and and it's like didn't you used to pretend to be him or something in the mirror i'm pretending to be him carl barrett the strokes yeah i used to sing in I mean, like after school, I'd sing in the mirror, you know what I mean? And mime and air guitar and dream of being on stage and stuff like that, definitely. And then suddenly he's taking you off. And then the next minute he's in your flat and you're kicking him out at 5am, like, get out. And you're like, wow, how's this happen? You know, it's like, it's like sort of that, yeah, that's sort of like, yeah, you realise that we are just all the same really.

49:24Peter Crouch: But it's like, yeah, it's a whirlwind when you come down and all these dreams or these fantasies do become reality, you know what I mean? And I guess it swipes you off your feet, doesn't it? Because there's no preparation for it, but it's just great to go in head first, really. And I think I look back at some of them times and, you know, the nights and the madness and the chaos, but I see it as beautiful. And I think it's great that you sort of, you learn a lot from that as well, don't you? because there's no rule book here and you know from our upbringings and our mums and dads and that's like this is this is so other otherworldly you know and and it takes and i've been lost in it as well you know you lose yourself and you get caught up and you start chasing and you sort of come out of all that but there's um yeah there's no regrets of it all because i think it's sort of it it's you learn a lot from it all you know what i mean what's the biggest buzz you've had like

50:26Miles Kane: gig wise um well that story you told about in the roundhouse is pretty cool yeah the i don't know

50:35Peter Crouch: i'm probably thinking of something the one that's just coming into me ever this one we did in mexico a few years ago it was me the hives monkeys and it was like this massive stadium that it just felt and they were all singing don't forget you are and it went on for ages and ages and I just was stood there and it's all live. And those extensions of songs that say the sing-along bits or the catchy bits, you know, certain nights is, it's more than others. And some nights, what I've found is sometimes I'll let that come and it may only happen, it may not happen sometimes as quick as you want it or sometimes i used to force that and you know there's a sense you've got to do that to sort of rile them up but there's sometimes that taking that step back that breather and letting whether it's a bit tense or they're not quite there yeah sometimes if you pull back i feel like it comes quicker really comes more i don't know there's a certain powerfulness and like an energy of taking that step back and it don't know whether we're on a mexican standoff but I quite like that I don't know that's where I'm at with it anyway is it different so we've obviously

51:55Miles Kane: played all around the world when you play around the world different stadiums it's a different noise the chance when someone scores a goal is that similar when you gig around the world

52:06Peter Crouch: yeah and it depends on the audience whether it's more laddie or more girls the high pitched it's like ah you know so there's a different there is a different and our gigs these days it is there is we've got in this last few years, like a really younger audience. So there's a big mix of the geezers and like, you know, the young lads and girls. So it's kind of like this, it's chaos really, but it's, you do notice it, yeah. And depending on the night of the week as well. But yeah, I think in Europe and that, there's definitely a bit of a hysteria is too over the top, but yeah, there's a bit of a wildness that feels going on over there.

52:50Peter Crouch: Okay, I've got a couple of quick fires for you.

52:52Miles Kane: Red or blue?

52:53Peter Crouch: Red.

52:55Miles Kane: Acoustic or electric? I've got to say. A cue? A cue? A cue? You're going to say that? Do you know? I showed the lads to your video message, right? The funniest thing. When I said, would you do, like, you know, the Baggio tune for us, you said, yeah, shall I just bring the cue down?

53:13Peter Crouch: And then I sent him the voice that I was there and look at the roll neck off of the akibir and all that awesome video you put that on

53:21Miles Kane: the video's events oh it's phenomenal that video I sent him calm down calm down oh yeah I'm telling myself

53:28Peter Crouch: to calm down because I looked at myself and I was like I'm sat in my house that was all real time wasn't it and I was like I'm like fucking Del boy sat in me

53:39Miles Kane: I'm going to show you I'm going to put on I'm going to put it on the video right

53:42Peter Crouch: that video that'll be better in my acoustic performance in a bit, let me tell you. Oh, no. But you have bought the Akui. I brought you the Akui, so the Akui's ready to go. I can't wait for that.

53:53Miles Kane: Let's wrap through this. Crouch, you're clancy.

54:00Peter Crouch: It's a lose-lose, isn't it? Abby, I love you, but I'm going to go for you, man. I don't believe you. I don't believe you. Hey, girl.

54:09Miles Kane: Liverpool or London? Oh, Liverpool. Yeah. Most embarrassing moment on stage?

54:16Peter Crouch: what I've had, I've ripped a few pants on stage. Yeah, there's some tight ones I've seen. Yeah, I couldn't get into them these days, but embarrassing. I don't know, once someone lobbed up drinking, it hit me on the head once, and I had a big golf ball off, off, on the head. So, yeah,

54:35Miles Kane: yeah. Probably that. Okay. Most unexpected footballer fan? Baggio. Probably Baggio,

54:42Peter Crouch: yeah. Never in my wildest dreams. You know what I mean? be off the top of me. Yeah. Best city in the world for a night out? Don't know. I'm just going to go, London probably. Yeah. Pretty good. If you want to get wild.

54:55Miles Kane: Okay. What's the most surreal moment of your career?

54:56Peter Crouch: I think we discussed Baggio. Yeah, I know Baggio is really the theme of today, but it feels right, doesn't it? Surreal. Yeah, probably that or having, you know, nights with Liam and then being like, can we keep it quiet because the neighbours, you know what I mean? When you're on one and stuff, They're surreal moments when you're talking in situations like this. You're telling him to keep it quiet. Probably, yeah. Like the mother in me coming out, probably paranoid, you know. Yeah, okay.

55:24Miles Kane: All right, well, get the Akui. All right. Right, you know what? This is the tune we've been talking about for most of the pod, right? It's the Bajo tune by Miles Kane, right?

55:35Peter Crouch: Well, I brought the Akui down for you. Just the Akui is my favourite word now. All right, well, I'll do a little bit of it. Here we go.

55:46Peter Crouch: Destiny, it's playing hide and seek with me. It's messing with my memories, the ones that always get a hold of me.

56:08Peter Crouch: Badgeo You're showing me the way to go When I was feeling lost and low I used to sit and watch you still show Yeah The deepest dark despair Romance in our heart will lead us in It leaves us in a heap upon the floor Yet still I'm wanting more

56:53You'll never be as strong as me

57:03Peter Crouch: You'll find them if the end meets The ones that always get a hold of me Are we feeling that? Oh, I'm feeling it! The deepest dark Despairs Romance in our heart Will lead us air It leaves us in a heap Upon the floor Yet still I'm once and more Yeah Well I'm crying out In dreams Where I am something more than what you see I'm not talking about possibilities To bring us back together We'll have a little wall ending Whoa Whoa Whoa

58:19Peter Crouch: Oh, Crouchio.

58:28Miles Kane: Well, lads, what did we make of the Akui? Wow. It was good, wasn't it? How good was that? More musical performances, I think, on the podcast. It was just another string to our bow, wasn't it? I was actually blown away I was blown away incredible he was so good and also you must have had some good times with him I did have some good times with him lively very very good very very good great when he gets the old guitar out in the evening love that play anything don't you think we should just get I know we've talked about getting a piano in here should we just make sure any guest has to perform a song at the end doesn't matter how good or shit they are they've got to offer some sort of musical offering in the end would have been great with Joe Cole it would have been actually yeah what would he have done do you reckon well like Only Falls North's theme tune Man Miss Meets Streets yeah I can see Joe Cole doing the streets yeah but then I'm adamant that we get Scott Park on at some point and bring in Mike Skinner didn't we talk about doing this before when he's done that the interview and it's they put it to the backing track yeah but I think we've got to make that happen on the podcast I think it's possible man I think it's possible we've got to get into some messages before we go Pete Stark and SIDS hope you well regards to your families my dad's mate passed the pod to me in April 2023 on the way up to watch Coventry away against Blackburn where we secured our place in the playoffs it's taken me two and a half years of religious listening from the very first episode but I've finally caught up to your latest podcast I'm going back to your recent episode about Fanny Fart Lane Rumbles on does it I forgot all about Fanny Fart Lane I work in the automotive industry and I've worked with a few Fannys in my time as it's quite a common European name apparently yeah I had a ski instructor called Fanny when I went skiing for the first time she was lovely Fanny right where's this going to go I'm just that is it really okay trying to work out what jokes come in no no no no genuinely her name was Fanny and she was lovely and she was a good skier.

1:00:36Miles Kane: It's quite a common European. The guy who sat next to me in the office was a bit of a wind-up merchant and he used to ask me questions during calls with Fanny, who was our customer, such as, what do you think of Fanny's opinion? Whilst looking at me giggling, and it used to be so difficult not to crack up laughing every time. Anyway, in light of finishing your podcast from the beginning, I thought I'd bring some nostalgia through a Valorama with some old names from the pod. Susie Dent Statman Dave and Mr Islam who's sitting where he didn't see this coming today thanks for bringing me many laughs over the last past few years and I can't wait to listen weekly now I'm up to date Chumbawamba well congratulations on catching up amazing he must have really loved it to go right there's a lot of stuff that we've done over the years and if you're new to the podcast you can do that you know they're all out there you can go find them and catch up I mean god there's a lot of podcasts.

1:01:35Miles Kane: Okay. A bit of anorama then? Susie Dent, Statman Dave and Mr. Islam just didn't see this coming today. No. Wasn't on my radar. Oh, these three podcast titans there. So yeah, Susie Dent, if you don't know, I'll just recap them. Mr. Islam was obviously the owner of the Samrat. Statman Dave was obviously on the pod. You know, he was fantastic for us. And Susie Dent was someone that basically we'd have words like, I remember there was like panache, you know, words you only use in football like panache and aplomb. Daisy Cutter she did. Daisy Cutter she did. Yeah, little things like that. It was, Shithouse was the main one she did and she explained that so eloquently in a way she does.

1:02:19Miles Kane: And she just, bizarrely she's been in touch recently about what, Ross? What was it? About the shades of paint. Right. And Tamcock and where it originates. from yes that's right so someone with the last name tancock got in touch with the podcast about something we then started talking about his last name tancock discussing what color tancock would be also we did throw it out and we said what is the history of that name every name's got a history attached to it um and i'm guessing what we're about to play from susie dent is a bit of a kind of well this is this is hot off the press because we only just received this so the story of the name

1:02:56Peter Crouch: tan cock well just to take cock or cocks on its own as a surname and that was usually a reference to a cockerel because the strutting barnyard fowl became a bit of a basis for describing a sprightly or what is called in the dictionary a pert young lad and that cock or cocks was often attached to other names in a diminutive sense keeping that sense of a young lad and particularly for the son of someone so Hitchcock meant the son of Hitch and Hitch was a nickname for Richard. Hancock was the son of Han which in turn was a pet name for John so it was John's son is really what Hancock means and then we get to Tancock and you'd guess then it's son of Tan and Tan was a pet form of Andrew so it's Andrew's son and this was very much the way that surnames worked how they operated.

1:03:54Peter Crouch: They often described a family relationship or a professional relationship, occupation, etc. You'll find Tancocks particularly in Devon. And I don't know what other theories you have heard. I would be fascinated to hear them, but I'm pretty sure that in this case, Tancock is really son of Andrew and their location would be probably in Devon.

1:04:19Miles Kane: Wow. That is amazing, isn't it? I didn't know she did names. I didn't know she did the whole... I didn't know she branched out into that. She does it exclusively for this podcast. Exclusively. I'll say it again. Her voice is great. Yeah. Don't you start liking her voice. No, I'm serious. I think she's got a great voice. If she's willing to do last names now as well, that opens up a whole thing because where's Crouch come from? Yeah, I know. At some point that was... Because it would have come from the act of crouching, I imagine you know a man who was commonly famous for crouching or something you know like I was speaking to Herman Haridison about his surname and all that Goodman's son it's Goodman's son you know that Haridison and all that you know that I've just never thought about it before so their father would be called yeah if he's Herman Haridison his father would be called Harida oh right it's mad yeah as she's saying so Herman would be Hermanson yeah so his son would be Hermanson that's right yeah so what about Sidwell sorry I said it in sort of Spanish Sidwell Steve Sidwell Steve McLaren over there you said that with a bit of panache I did aplomb it's because you're a pert young boy he is a pert young boy you are pert do you know what that is a great word to describe you do you know what I got from from that as well you know when she was describing like cock right No, listen, come on.

1:05:53Miles Kane: You know when she's saying, obviously, like it was a bit of a bullish kind of burden, like someone should say, I look at cock. Oh, he's a cock. You're not saying because he's like, you know, that area. It comes from obviously that bullish, like he's having himself. Yeah. Yeah. There's lots of different ways of describing cock, isn't there? Like cock of the class, like, you know, cock of the school. Cock. He's a cock, you know, or like, you know, or cock is a young boy. Like Sidwell. Steve Sidwell. Where are we putting Susie Dent's that name, Dave, anyway? Oh, yeah. I mean, who's driving this car?

1:06:38Miles Kane: Dave, for me, feels like he's just got, he'd have the navigation sorted. Like, Susie Dent would keep the conversation flowing between them because I don't think it would flow if Mr. Islam was sat next to Statman Dave whereas Susie could be the go-vers. I think Statman Dave Statman Dave is almost the antithesis of Mr. Islam. Yeah, yeah. He's almost the polar opposite of humans. Very different characters. Very different characters. Mr. Islam and Statman Dave. I feel like Susie can hold things together there. She's holding court. Yeah. Yeah. Without doubt. All right. Lovely. Great for you. thanks for your message Chris of House Stark 67 Pete and Stevie Blunder no idea let's just move on season's greetings to the family have you seen this video clip of a fan holding up a sign asking for the ref's autograph and shirt it's in German so just I assume that's what it says imagine the fourth was watching it dreaming that one day he could be them all the best that's from Daryl Eaton Sidz can you describe what we're seeing here well am I am I seeing that he's going off to the crowd.

1:07:48Miles Kane: He's signed, it looks like he's signing an autograph on a bit of paper. Now he's taking his jersey off. Hold on a minute, he's unclipped the VAR. He's taking his jersey off. He's giving it to the man. The man's giving him the pen back to sign his jersey. This is unreal. So this is a fourth official or referee or a linesman. I'm not sure which one. He's got a sign obviously saying like, fourth, can I have your shirt? you know like you'd see you'd do to like Cristiano Ronaldo yeah I think the problem is there's now so many signs at the football that you're so unlikely to get a player's shirt it's almost pointless having the sign because everyone's got one if you go for the referee though there's a strong chance you'll get that shirt right now until everyone starts doing it that can't happen in the Prem why?

1:08:36Miles Kane: I think we get it going I think we get it going of course it can it can do you reckon? and it did let's do it I think that is the way the game's heading. I hope so. Maybe it's one to try out this Christmas. Just on the Christmas thing, if you put your Christmas trees up and all that. Yeah, they've been up for a while, man. Yeah, have they? Yeah. We've done it yet. Who's on the top of your tree? Have you got one yet? Didn't we talk about trying to get Angel? Did we talk about doing an alternative nativity? One on the top there. At one point. Yeah, yeah. That was our nativity, wasn't it? We were trying to get Jesus from Arsenal.

1:09:15Miles Kane: We had Wen Pavlo and Gail. Yeah. Yeah, there was loads of them, wasn't it? Like Ledley King, Marlon King, and... That was it. Oh, Crouch, how have we gone through another year of not doing this? We've not done it, have we? Ledley, Andy... Ledley, Andy, and... No, no, Josh King. Josh King? Oh, yeah, film Josh King, yeah. Mary Earps.

1:09:38Oh,

1:09:42Miles Kane: please, we've got to make it happen. No one's done this yet. How's no one done this? Andy Cole? Andy Cole, yeah. Who else was knocking around then? You had a donkey, didn't you? Dean Windus. Dean Windus. Dean Windus. It's all coming together. Got to do it. Yeah, I don't know. Football League Nativity. Okay. Hello, Robot OG. One ball and the Dolphins.

1:10:13Miles Kane: what's the dolphin about well he said smooth like a dolphin no hair is he regards your families Dan the Sunderland fan here you may remember from the skiing 11 we do Dan I've been planning a proposal for my beautiful wife for my beautiful now fiance Frankie for a while and listen to the pod inspired me to get her a very special Sunderland shirt to commemorate the occasion especially as the red and white wizards are on the European charge they're our pod team as well see the attached shirt and I pay homage to the pod for inspiration Frankie's from Essex but is now well and truly an adopted Mackham I'm confident in saying she will get the seal of approval from Sid as a top signing hopefully Steve Sid will like hopefully my name is Corner and keeping with the theme of modern football going back to the old school route 1 I'm happy to say Frankie will be having a corner slung into her box for the rest of her days.

1:11:23Miles Kane: You have previously said on the pod it's hard to score from a corner. Not. See that coming. Did you? I just didn't see that one. You were fully invested reading that. I'm just reading what was there. I hadn't read it beforehand. God, oh my God. I mean, he's wrote this leather. Yeah, he's leathered in Mexico, he says, with the future missus. That's from Dan. Oh, I'm worried. So he's fired off his email. Yeah. He's probably forgotten he sent this. He's probably forgotten, yeah. She's Mrs. Corner. Bye. What?

1:12:02Miles Kane: What is this podcast now? This is where it is. Steve Sidwell reacts to your missus Is this a new section New section We can't do that Sid reacts to people's missus You sent a picture of your missus Steve Sidwell reacts We can't do that We have

1:12:27Miles Kane: Mrs Corner Show some respect Well Get your wives in and we'll see you next week