That Norway v England Episode: Kane, Rogers & Burn talk Haaland & their HUGE Norway game! | Ep. 414

0:06Hello and welcome to that Peter Crouch podcast. I've got Sid with me and Tom Fordyce. We're in the inner sanctum of the England camp training camp.

0:16Tom Fordyce: Very, very special. Very special. I'm going to say lads, I was a little bit nervous in the car on the way here today. Were you? Butterflies? Yeah, because, you know, we're at a World Cup. We're going to a training base. You sense the security all beforehand. Big guns on the bloke at the front gate. Not these dogs, actual guns. It was just a case of, look, we're going in. We are going in. A lot of people haven't had access. We are very, very fortunate. We really are. And also, because of the way this World Cup has been, it's been a fantastic experience being out here. But that narrative around England has completely changed after winning the Azteca.

0:54So we found out we were coming here a couple of days ago. It was still a bit up in the air. rumours of which players would get to see and then we got here and the whole England team was here to greet I wouldn't say us with all due respect to you and me Sid they were here to see you Crouchy and give you a lovely little momenta that was an amazing experience yeah I felt quite emotional really like you know so this is your legacy cap I got a legacy cap yeah the red cap but you know we talked about getting, you know, access maybe to some of the players for the World Cup. And I thought, you know, that amazing was granted.

1:35And they kind of surprised me with this legacy here. Gaz has got it here, actually. Look at this. Yes, she is. So I am number 1139 to play for England. Does the cap fit? If it does, you should wear it. It's got my name in it, look.

1:51Tom Fordyce: The cap fit. It's got my name in it. Nice, but your name's stitched in it as well. Yeah, it's stitched in it. it's a bit small I've got a massive brain it's a little bit jockey well the tassel makes it look different it's nice it's got your name on it in case you ever leave it in the changing rooms of school and then it gets handed into lost property and everyone knows whose legacy cap it is that's true I can see this cap full cap wanker the thing is I would with that number and that colour and the badge on it I can see this cap making several appearances at Casa del Crouch. A hundred percent.

2:30Tom Fordyce: I think this could be a Crouchfest vibe, couldn't it? This could be a Crouchfest vibe. I'm going to start wearing this on the train instead of my train hat. It can't be. Do you know what my new nickname needs to be? 1139. Where's 1139? Prisoner 1139. No, listen, it was an amazing experience. And you've got Harry, Harry Kane presents you with it. and since it was clearly it's lovely for you but for us it's like watching your mate do something like that and Carrie was very very sincere it was lovely for us as well watching our mate have that moment yeah you know what I thought I knew it was going to happen but I thought it would be maybe just start training quick hand over and a pick but the fact that the whole team was there and shook my hand to greet me and like it was just it was amazing you know considering off the back of um you know that mexico result and stuff um but you know they i kind of felt like i needed to give a speech but then i was like i didn't want it to be you did a good job i didn't want to turn it back on them because it's not about me is it it's i don't know i'm you know got my hat on now

3:48but they're the ones that are important now not washed up you know number 1139 but I'm very proud of it. So after that happened, we went backstage, so to speak, and then we watched the England boys do their, it's called open training. So if people haven't been to one of these before, it's where the media are allowed in, you get some footage of the boys, and then you're ushered away by a man who looks like he could kill you if he wanted to. He doesn't have to. You'd definitely be able to break your arm. Yeah, he could. And then they do the proper training. So we've been sitting in the media centre.

4:20We're still not entirely sure which England players are going to come through. We've come up with a bit of a plan, haven't we? We talked about this on the flight from Los Angeles to Kansas yesterday. We've undenied a bit. We've gone down some silly routes. I think we've collectively decided to ditch the silly. We're still going to have some fun, though, aren't we? We're not going to go super serious. No, it's just this podcast. I think what I always like about doing this pod is whoever guests we have on, we kind of bring them into our world, I think. People seem to enjoy it and seem to be relaxed.

4:47Tom Fordyce: And they've won that as well. You can imagine the press conferences that they sit in and you can see how much attention there is outside this room alone. I'm sure whoever we get, when they come and sit in here, they're going to feel it each straight away. Really good lads I've noticed as well. Like from meeting them today as well, just having a brief chat with them. Obviously we played with some of the older players, you know, John Stones and Harry Kane, Pickford players like that, I suppose we've kind of played with and against. But some of the young lads as well, all really, really good lads.

5:17So it does feel different this World Cup. that it feels like there is more of a team togetherness more than ever before. There's that famous line, isn't there, from Steve Archibald, obviously Scotland's striker play for Spurs, play for Barcelona, slightly cynically said that team spirit is a delusion fostered by winning. In other words, if you're winning, you're all together. If you're losing, you're not. But I agree with you. I think I agree with you. And maybe that is entirely natural, that if a group of players goes through what they went through in the Azteca, of course it's going to bring you together because you've collectively gone into the Lions then and you've emerged not only unscathed, but you've emerged victorious.

5:53So that makes sense. And that's how big tournaments works, isn't it? You get through a game, you get through a difficult game, you might not play brilliant, you keep going, and then you play brilliant together. Of course you're going to continue. We're on the rise.

6:06Tom Fordyce: We've podded after every England game, haven't we? And in between other ones as well. And we've always maintained and stayed positive. You know, yes, there was room for improvement, but we've stayed positive all around it. And it just takes one game, one moment. And that was Mexico. And then I think we're going to see a real different light now. Like you've been in these competitions, you know exactly what these lads are feeling. When you get out the group stage and it's into the knockout now, I feel like these lads are going to feel like this is where we belong. We've done that little bit now and we're here.

6:40Tom Fordyce: And now we're going to get judged from now on. I actually see us really kicking on another notch. Wouldn't that be amazing? We're sitting in here, you know, press conferences, you know, about to take place out there. They're two games away from a World Cup final. Yeah. A World Cup final, two games. Imagine that being in that position. Something else for me as well. So this will be familiar to you two as former elite footballers, but I think this is worth sharing with people who are listening and watching back home who haven't been around football there is something as a civilian let's call ourselves civilians those of us who haven't played football at any decent level when you see elite footballers I always say to mates it's a bit like you know when you go to uh Ascot or whatever race course it might be and you go to parade ring and there's a glossiness about the horses it's almost like they've got the ready-break glow okay so fellow civilians when you see England players elite footballers at a tournament, they've all got the ready-bred glow.

7:38So if you were with us, you'd be thinking Anthony Gordon's taller than I thought. You'd be thinking he looks stronger. There is something about elite footballers.

7:46Tom Fordyce: Thoroughbreds. Thoroughbreds is the word, Sid. And that I think if you were a civilian in camp rather than the next England footballer, that's what you'd be thinking. These boys are athletes. They look ready to go. Yeah, I never heard anyone say that about me. If we was thoroughbreds, what are we now? But before we get into the pod with the England lads, I actually caught up with Harry Kane. Listen to this. How are you? Well done. Are you okay? No, you're fine. You're good, eh? How are you guys? You're good, eh? You're good. You're good. You're good. Oh, Sage. How you doing? Sounds good. Alright, mate.

8:27Yes, boys. Just a little one. Got a legacy cap for our man. Oh, nice. Peter here. 1-1-3-9. If my stats are right, I've got 42 caps, 22 goals. So better than 1-2. So as a striker at international level, that's pretty impressive. So it's like to be proud of. Obviously, we had a nice celebration the other day. We did, mate. We did. I know how much of a fan you are of the boys and all of us and even a fan in general. So, yeah, this is for you, mate. Mate, thank you so much. Thank you so much. Thank you.

9:08Thank you very much, lads. Obviously, it's a bit embarrassing. I wasn't expecting this at all. I just want to put it back on you boys, because I was in Mexico the other night and I thought it was easily even playing the game and being a fan as well myself. That was one of the best performances I've seen and one of the best nights I've had in my life. What you boys are doing is absolutely incredible and I think what you've done has made the whole kind of country start believing in the team, you know. What you've, you know, you're not just inspiring kids to play football, be the next Harry Kane, but you're making the whole country believe in what you're doing, you know.

9:46So congratulations, Thomas, you've done an incredible job as well. And yeah, it's very proud, I suppose, as an Englishman to see you boys do what you're doing. So keep it up.

10:04I think I should say to the lads, like, I like it everywhere, to be fair. I've seen your missus after the game as well, your brother and stuff over in the corner. Have you seen much of the family? Not really, so we see them after each game, in a half hour. My kids come to the Congo game, that was the only thing they've been to, which was a good one to come to do there, so they loved that. but they're still so young, I think they quite enjoy just like watching it on TV. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're based kind of in the Bahamas, that's where they're flying back and forth from. Okay. And what are you doing day to day here?

10:37Are you based? We're based here, so we literally fly back here after every game. Yeah, yeah. We've got a nice hotel. It's quite nice. It feels like home, you know, like after like that the other night. Yeah. Like the adrenaline and everything, we come back here and it's just like, okay. And just to relax. Chill and relax. How do you sleep after that? Like, you know, Have you seen the reaction at home? You know like, As much as we can. Everyone's like, I know journalists who worked when I was playing, you know, who aren't, you know, particularly, haven't been particularly nice to England over the years.

11:05Just saying it's the best game of everything in their life. I think just the whole emotion of it. I think the build up to it, was like the altitude and the fans and the stadium. And then it was like the game almost lived up to that height. And then I had to go through the ups and downs. But yeah, it was mental. Like we, to be fair, We didn't get back to our hotel until like 7, 8 a.m. the next morning. So it's almost, we were arriving at sunrise, just trying to take everything clean. And it's been nice to have this kind of little break, you know, like just to digest it. Now the boys are almost like, okay, now we've got to lift ourselves a bit for this next one.

11:41So, like now, mental night. Do you get to sleep? So probably about four hours. Yeah. By the time we got back and everything, I think everyone's just sat on an adrenaline rush. I can imagine that, you boys, everyone misses. I couldn't sleep myself. And like, you know, that buzz after the game. I mean, what's that like when you're standing there singing Wonderwall? Like, for me, I just, I got consumed by it. To be fair, like from that first, from the Croatia, like obviously the Croatia was the first game, we had a good result. And then first time we hear Wonderwall. And I think Wonderwall is such a like English song, isn't it?

12:15Like everyone knows the word. So now like to see everyone just kind of singing it back. I think to the boys, it's like the closest we get to being like a musician, you know, just getting serenaded by the fans. But I think that's what makes like the memories, obviously what happens on the pitch, you're kind of in the zone, you're kind of in that moment, but then when you get to like celebrate with the fans after that, after that, but then obviously what happened to Hendo, we're all a bit like... Yeah, yeah. How is he? He's had the operation, the operation went well, but just guided for him, because obviously he got stuck there for a couple of days.

12:46Yeah, I felt so bad for him, yes. But then even that, and then my interview, and then there was so much of just - It's all been for the interview. That's amazing. I think it's the best thing I've ever seen. When I watch it back, I still feel like it's like AI. I think because I've got such a deep voice. Yeah. And then I can't watch it without laughing. As soon as I like certain bits, I've had so many messages from the lads. That happened to me. I remember I was doing the old BC Sport. I was on there, and the aircon was terrible one night. I've probably had a night out or something. And mine went completely, so I was the same.

13:21I had it where my voice has gone, but I never had it where it's gone high-pitched. Ah, it was just phenomenal. Completely phenomenal. Listen, I don't want to get involved in your... No worries. ...what you're doing, all right? Great to see you, mate. Keep it going. You're doing so good, so good.

13:45Well, Morgan, Dan, thanks for coming on. I really appreciate it. I want to start with you, Dan, quickly. Sid has been talking about how he made you at Fulham as a player. Do you want to elaborate on that? Yeah, no, he did absolutely completely took us under his wing a little bit, so that's why I got released three years later.

14:04Tom Fordyce: I never said I made him. I said I was part... I was an instigation of the move to Newcastle. Yeah, you were, to be fair. Is that true? I got it. When I was out in Dubai and there was stuff being said and then Siddy rang us and I was like, I'm not spotting him for a few years. And then he was telling us that it was happening and trying to help us out and stuff. So yeah, appreciate it. Thank you. But lads, let me ask you, I was in Mexico. Just what were your impressions of the place, first and foremost? It's the best place I've ever been to play. I agree. It was unbelievable. and all the talk and when you talk about it before and then everyone's like watch this you'll you'll you don't quite know until you go you can't you can think about it but you don't know until you go and then when you go it's crazy it was the fans so passionate the stadium itself everything about it i think it's just kind of the best football experience i've ever been a part of was there a nervousness because obviously i put myself on the side i was quite behind the side when you were warming up, both of you.

15:10And like, was there a nervousness about coming on or an anticipation? Or was it like, get me on, I want to be part of this? I think for me, it was just get me on, I want to be involved. I think memorable games like that, you want your name to be on the team sheet somewhere at the bottom with you coming on. And I think looking back at it now, I know I only came on just in added time, but to know I played in such a special game, remarkable game at such an iconic stadium, I think, yeah, that's what it's all about, really. Yeah, definitely. I think you're just buzzing to get on. I think there's no time to get nervous about or anything like you knew what you were coming on to do.

15:44I've said loads of times in the press, if I don't play a minute, it'll not bother us, but secretly, I'm like, I want to be on. I'm just buzzing to be on the pitch. Do you know there was, I think, the record of the furthest two headers ever in a World Cup? One of them had kicked off me head as well. I mean, that was incredible, though. One went over halfway there on the diving header. fantastic man honestly I mean I was there for it I was thinking amazing putting your body on the line it's got to play at your strengths you know what I mean some people are good with your feet just put us in the box and let us head it but in all honesty like the how amazing the squad has been in general and obviously the the players who started were amazing but all the players who came on had a real impact in the game that's what it's about really I think it's a squad game and it might be cliche people might say you think just to butter you off if you're not playing that everyone's needed and you might hear it too many times you're like I don't want to hear this again but it's a it's a true statement and with stuff like that Bernie's not playing a minute and he's been just as engaged then as he was was he when he was ready to come on and that's no coincidence that when he does come on he makes a huge impact that if he was moaning and wasn't happy or didn't want to be here it shows and people might not think it doesn't you can switch you on but you can't not at this level and yeah every every person even players that haven't played seeing their reaction of when you come on and giving you that your praise and it's just a really nice feeling to have and it means everything and everyone plays a massive role whether you see or you don't and yeah i think that that showed in that game massively it looked like one of those nights that that you boys going to be talking about not just this week but in five years time in 10 years time in 20 years time if you were sitting down with your kids dan in 20 years time what's the one thing that you would tell them about the Azteca about that night in the Azteca a lot really i think the first thing that hit is like when the national anthem the mexican national anthem was like the loudest i've ever heard a stadium ever like and seeing how like passionate they were all crying singing it and stuff like uh and then a little bit of is like i'm i wasn't happy we conceded but just to hear like doing the music plays and all like jumping out and you can see all like the beer getting thrown and stuff so it was like i think just the full game it was like for a neutral watching that game like you no one would be sort of disappointed

18:01Tom Fordyce: yeah you said about national anthem again you said about whether you're involved or not involved after the game the new national anthem of obviously wonderwall everyone's together everyone's involved in they whether you've been on the on the field or whether you come on a sub or you've not how does it feel standing there because i've been to welcome semi-finals before and you see the like the wall of red and white fans to be there singing that it's been really special. Yeah, we've loved it actually Sid.

18:37No, it's been class like honestly unreal. I think like the first few times it was on, it was sort of like we were just watching them do it and then like we're like, oh, like get together and like made it a thing and it was a yeah class like just hearing everybody sing it like and for how many English fans that were there compared to how many Mexican fans and how loud it was. I think those are the bits that you remember, like you probably not remember like the games as much or like what absolutely happened, but like little moments. I was just about to say, I'm not bothered about the games anymore.

19:04I'm just bothered about the win and the celebration. Yeah, yeah. That feeling is just as good as scoring the last minute winner. Like literally it gives you goosebumps and it's like a tingling feeling of them. Like just you're looking at people's eyes and seeing how much it means to them. It's just as big. It's really nice. I actually think because you've got time to take it all in there. Like when you score a goal, everything's just a blur and you're already thinking about the kickoff and getting back in. Whereas that, you can stand there and enjoy it. Literally just stare and just watch. And yeah, it's a mad feeling.

19:35It's come from nowhere, really. Like we didn't expect it after the first game. We've gone to clap them. And all of a sudden, I think the stadiums played the music and we were like, go on then. Like, have a go. Let's have a go here. and it just kind of now it's a thing. Well, make sure you enjoy that because I played in two World Cups and we couldn't get in the dressing room.

19:57What's the last question? What's it like kind of around the place? Like when you're in Kansas, based in Kansas, are you bored? Is there stuff to do? What are you doing on a day-to-day basis? I was actually thinking about this before and thinking, what am I going to do? How am I going to spend the time? It's a long time away from home, family, friends and whatnot. It's been so easy. so easy there's so much to do you just end up having debates for three four hours and like you get to your room and it's how have i gone to bed so late like what have i been doing today i've got nothing to show for today but other than just laughter and debates and whatever and yeah it's a good hotel as well and i think like a lot of the teams have come and they've just been stuck on like a floor of a hotel where like we're like in the middle of a park so you can like go out like people are friendly you can go off like coffee there's like being lads going like getting and some ice cream and stuff.

20:44So it's like, it's not like you're just stuck there. And it feels like a bit like a home way from home. Like when you were coming back from Mexico, going to Kansas, like you were buzzing that, like you were coming back to it. And like from what I've heard of like previous tournaments or whatever, I think that's like a big plus.

20:58Tom Fordyce: There's gotta be a little competitive edge. There's gotta be some kind of games. Like there's always a game room, but it's gotta be something that's going on at the minute. That's getting the lads together and just like, somebody wants to win it or - Traitors at the minute. Is it traitors? Oh, I'm a big fan. Traitors is the one, is it? that every day and the faithful's hammering it i think there's like i think there's seven wolves and five have been caught and we're not one of them one of them's eddie the photographer and he just admitted he was wolf so we're just keeping him in the game keeping him in making him drown these sorrows so yeah they're they're gonna have to recruit a few more wolves to keep the game going on there but like stuff like that there's been like the lads playing golf basketball going on we've been playing that sky draw game we're playing like everyone's got their own different thing that they're doing and you're just watching them do it it's just funny it's nice different characters so good we all grew up didn't we watching world cup so for you two at your first world cup is this how you thought it would be or has it been even bigger even more exciting even more thrilling than you thought it might be when you were a kid watching your first world cup it's different and i think even you know when like you dream of being a footballer it wasn't what you thought about when it was being a kid you know i mean like there's like there's a lot more to it but I think just like like this is like the pinnacle of football for me anyway like playing at a world cup for your country is like like a pinnacle so I'm just trying to like enjoy like everything that's been going on there's been loads of stuff like people who have met like Tom Brady coming in like like mad stuff like I like just things that you would never never even have the capacity to dream of when you're a kid it's just like trying to appreciate it all really I think it being here in America everything that comes with it obviously I love America and stuff.

22:37The group, where we are, I think everything's just made everything so much easier. The football side of it's actually been quite easy to just take care of itself and we can just fully focus on that because everything else, I think it's all a build up. I think if you're not happy, you want to be at home or it's maybe a bit difficult, you're a bit homesick and then the football becomes more difficult. I think you just add pressure, but because there's been no pressure whatsoever off the pitch, I think we can just focus firmly on it and yeah, it's just made it's so much easier to be here. Have you been aware of the buzz back at home?

23:06Like, you know, there's some, you know, there's a certain journalist that obviously I've seen, you know, here when you're doing the press conferences that have been very negative of the England team. Why have you lowered your toe?

23:17Tom Fordyce: Why? Because I'm shitting myself. Yeah, I'm just caning them. I don't want to be honest. You know, there have been negatives. And I've literally seen them completely change and say that and they've been covering tournaments since like 86 and they're talking like that game was the best they've ever seen you know so are you aware of all that uh bits i'm like i'm not massive on socials and that anyway so i don't like to really see anything outside of the camp obviously they ever come in and speak to the press like you get a sort of a feel of it um but yeah i understand like there's going to be a hype after after that game but like also know like we've got norway on Saturday, which is like, it's like not going to be an easy game.

24:01Like they've done so well, but you just want to try and keep this going. Like it's one of them where you don't really want it to end. You know what I mean? Like, it's just like a dream. Really? Yeah. It's going to be some calm down at the end. I mean, we don't wait to win boys. Please keep going. We'll get it done. If you sit there in Valaraki going, I remember that. Exactly. Okay. How are you feeling about Norway boys? Um, I hope Harland doesn't play. Excited as we have been for every game. Another big challenge, another tough team and another challenge we're gonna have to overcome if we wanna get to where we wanna get to, but excited.

24:38It's the games you wanna play in. In Miami, I think everything just adds to it. I think it's gonna be a special occasion and yeah, it's about us delivering and that's the excitement. I think I'm happy and I'm confident going in with this group of players, especially after that game, and no matter what the game brings and what normal it brings, which would be difficult, we've got the tools and the ingredients to win the game. And confidence is the most important thing. And we've got that, especially after the last game. So yeah, we're excited. We're looking forward to it. We know it's going to be a challenge.

25:05I feel like we've won lots of different ways this tournament as well. Do you know what I mean? Like coming from behind and doing that at the Aztec. But I feel like as a group, we don't really feel as if we've hit the level that we expect from each other as well. So I feel that's quite exciting as well that we're in the last stage of the tournament, but we still don't feel as if we've put a complete performance together. So it's been nice so far, the whole Mexico thing. But like we had a meeting this morning, like that's done. It's like on to Norway now, it's going to be a tough game, even though everyone's going to make us favorites for it.

25:33And it's just now about us trying to like, I think for us as players, we don't want to leave the tournament before we know the level that we can hit, which I think is quite an exciting thing. I think I said before that you know what you're achieving at this tournament is kind of inspiring people, I suppose, at home, you know, young people to come and play football, but also you've got the country kind of believing in something now it really is amazing and you know congrats to to what you've done so far and good luck for the rest of the tournament appreciate it thank you brilliant for that thank you boys thank you

26:15right this is the part of the podcast where the production scene thought it'd be a great idea to to take us out on a challenge. Check this out. All right, what's this all about? Fat cells. Fat cells is ready for us. Guys, what are we doing here? Here are the decks. Yes, boys, how are we? Good to see you. Oh, what a star. That was natural. Boys, take a seat. Get your cells gathered round here. I'll explain all. Come on, sit. Come on. Okay. All right. Does anyone have a clue what fat cells is? Or what they do? No, they make people big. They make people big, in a manner of speaking. Listen, I've sent you this challenge, right, for the World Cup, so what I want to do is test your iron stomach.

27:00And this means that you're gonna have to do an all-you-can-eat sort of buffet sandwich challenge in 40 minutes. He'll be with us in a second. Have you ever done a food challenge before? Nah. Never? That's the diagonal I've done. You were looking great at the minute. It's okay that way. Cheers boys. Cheers lads. Cheers boys. I can't cheers lads. The game's gone. You've changed. Even though the lads said them. Wow. The big guys. It's unbelievable. It's like... It's unbelievable. I've never seen him quite like it. Jesus Christ. It's a hard watch. It just keeps going. It's not sounding great is it?

27:43We're making this up really well for us. It's like every topping I've ever seen. I'm thinking just because it's so big, maybe we'll add a table at the end. Add a table? Well, let's... No, it's just going to be tight. Yeah, it's going to be tight.

27:57Tom Fordyce: Six foot long, Sid. Look at the size of that. So we have our big, fat fatty. This is a 27-inch garlic hero with cheese steak, eggs, pastrabi, cheeseburgers, butzorale sticks, french fries, bacon, onion ribs, chili, mara dara, and fat sauce. And what will we have? What will we have? I got three more coming out. That's just produce. 40 minutes to eat it. Any tactical chat. And if one person finishes it, they get to David Craydo and fat sauce. Oh, that's good. What? Six people in 15 years have... Seriously, six total people out of a couple of years. in person for the whole thing. But where are they now?

28:43Where are they now? Are they all dead? Fuck my golf record.

28:49We're all professional. Oh, OK. What, when you see it done, what tactics have worked? We had a girl, a girl named Molly Schroover, who ate it in 13 minutes. Same. She dumped the bread, went to town, and then was dipping the bread in water to finish it off. Oh. But you gotta be a real serious... Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's not for the faint of heart. We've seen some epic fails as well. Couple more here.

29:18Tom Fordyce: So if you complete it, you get to name a sandwich? We create a sandwich that we run as a special. Wow. Okay. Are we up for it? Sid's sandwich? Sid's sandwich? How do the guys eat this? Just bare hands or...? I will bring out some plasticware for you, but they bare hand it, they fork, it's really every man for himself situation.

29:50There's a lot of it boys. There's eggs, I forgot about the eggs. There's a layer of eggs at the very bottom. I'm ready for that. Boys, I'd like an answer on this. Of all the players you've played with, which player are you backing to polish this off?

30:04Tom Fordyce: Oh. We signed it. It's harsh, that. I tell you, it looks great, but loves his food. Real. Yeah. Real. He does love food. I hope it's healthy, I hope he says. There's protein galore down here. So is that burgers at the bottom? I'll just tell you, the burger is unbelievable. Yeah, I've just got a bit of this, I think. It's actually nice, the burger. I think you were surprising yourself here, weren't you? I'm doing alright. I think Coach is doing the best so far I've been. There's no way you can do that in 45. What about if you had a really big 15 in the middle, right? Just like, sack off a conversation.

30:40You've been professional athletes, get your pro gamer heads on. Come on. How many chips are? I don't think you can do it on chips. That's the thing. No. The thing is, the longer this challenge goes on, the harder it gets, not only because everyone's getting fuller, but because the food is getting colder. Hey, pouches. Pouches doing all right here. Now we're on. Let's try and break it down. How many big portions are in there? Eight, ten big portions? Maybe ten? So I reckon you are probably looking at... That's a scary one. You could be looking at ten pounds. Got sauce as well. You're putting me off here.

31:17I'm asking you. I've got to get to work here five minutes in my stomach. That's insane. Can I ask you a question? How many calories is in this?

31:25Tom Fordyce: I don't know, 13. I don't know exactly. Roughly. I'm going to say 15 ,000 maybe? Maybe? You've never done the full calculation. Wow. So for the average man, that is one, two, three, four. It's almost a week's work. It's a week's food. It's a week's food. It's a week's food. Well, now we're now at the four minutes, guys. By the way, it's beautiful, but we're going to struggle here. 100%. We need that, bring that lady back. She can hop us out. The lady who did it in 14 minutes. I would love, I would actually love to see that. You can watch it on YouTube. Yeah, yeah. Help us. Bring this out a little bit.

32:08We need help. Lads, when was the last time you had a meal quite like this? Never. Never? No. No. As ex-athletes, does this go against everything you stand for? Ex-athletes? Yeah, it's not ideal, is it? No, she's outrageous. Now listen, what's that? Well listen, we're not athletes anymore so we can have a little go. We can have a little go. We can find a burger. Don't keep that, he can't find it. He's demo. You put me off with the egg. Yeah, exactly. He's there, he's actually on top of the egg.

32:41Tom Fordyce: Ploughing on. I'm getting a real glimpse into Sid's competitive mindset here, look. Terrified beforehand, now the contest has begun, he can't switch off. I think we're done guys now. We've been defeated now. We haven't just been defeated, we've been thrashed. Look at this. We've got nothing left. Ian Bielstall. I think we did okay, you know. That is tough, yeah. We had a terrible effort. I've definitely seen worse. Have you seen worse from four men?

33:16The egg was an interesting combination in there. you weren't sure about the egg at all really? I wasn't either nice just maybe not all together can we get that in the doggy bag to go? yes well good try Jarman thank you very much respectable well done very good well played

33:49here from the Minister of Mischief from Powers Towers. Powers Towers? He's Crouchy Tom and Mr. Stephen Sedwell. Formal again.

33:59Tom Fordyce: We're off on bad foot. I thought the mental image of the three of you modelling your new podcast shirts was bad enough. Then you went and released a bucking bronco footage. Yeah, we did. It weren't very good for me. I don't think I've seen it, actually. Sid went over the top, didn't he? Yeah, he did, yeah. He did. There are now images burned into my retinas that I worry will never leave me. Credit where it's judo, there was some impressive hip movement on show. Hips don't lie. I think so. I'm shortening the odds on one of you appearing on Strictly Dancing immediately. Maybe not you, Sid. First, you lose your top spot in the league.

34:38Then you lose to a mechanical bull. What has America done to the once notorious SID? I do like these letters. Good, aren't they? And Crouch, you must address the scenes of you and Harry Kane. The way you launched yourself into his arms and declared your love for him was like a scene from Dirty Dancing. I'm half expecting you to see in a full England kit, arm in arm with the squad, belting out Wonderwall after the next game. Don't rule that out. That's possible, isn't it? Don't rule that out. We're in the camp at the moment. I'm going to pop the question. Now the games are coming thick and fast, I haven't even had the chance to tot up your scores from France-Morocco before rewriting this.

35:17I told you your selections would reveal a lot about you, and let's just say they certainly did. Until then, your next Paddy Power big fixture is Norway versus England, the big one. Had to be. Harry Kane versus Erling Haaland, two of the world's deadliest finishers. And this week's chaos card is the American dream. This is America, where they believe anything is possible if you back yourself hard enough. So this week we're adding a bonus leg to the bet builder. It's an extra pick of your choice, and means an extra five points up for grabs. will you make it count five bonus points to go to the game week winner best of luck lads the Paddy Power Minister of Mischief please gamble responsibly ooh la la always a curveball with the Minister isn't it always a curveball

36:00Tom Fordyce: jeez there is okay shall I start us off boys yes okay so in the build up to this game boys I've been getting very strong 2018 quarter final vibes when England played Sweden another Scandinavian nation and England after penalty drummers against Colombia that time it just did a job, I'm getting job done so I'm going to say England are going to beat Norway 2-0 for two shots on target I am going to say probably, quite obviously Jude Belliam for a card, a card's a tough one the card's the one I've struggled on the most actually there's a few England players already on a yellow card I think it will be one of the centre halves, I'm going to say Mark Gay will get a yellow card trying to look after Erling Haaland and then the curveball I'm going to say first goal scorer Harry Kane Nice I'll take that right now I don't want to come in for your sake for the nation's sake I do but not for you Crouchy Okay, I'm going to go with the score of England 3-1.

37:17I'm going bold. So I'm going to tie that in with an over 2.5 goals for a little bonus. And then I'm going to go Jude Bellingham, two or more shots on target. And for a yellow card, I'll have Aya. It's the half of Norway.

37:38Tom Fordyce: Oh, really? I think he also just read the preview on his phone No, no, no I don't do homework Homework's for chumps Remember that, kids?

37:54Nice use of the word chump Wasn't expecting it

37:57Tom Fordyce: Oh, you've killed me there How was the last time you used the word chump? I don't know Just then I enjoyed it I don't know, maybe I'm out in America I'm saying words like sidewalk now Do you know what I mean? And barfed barfed right okay okay okay okay I'm going to go for I was actually genuinely going to go for 3-1 I'm going to go for 2-1 England I'm going to go for Christopher Ayer as well to be carded I'm going to go for Harry Kane two or more shots on target and for my cherry on the top I'm going to go for both Harland and Kane to score. It's getting serious now. That feels good, that. It does, doesn't it?

38:46That feels like he's done some homework there. It's one of those ones where you say it and I feel slightly jealous straight away. He's been sitting up in Kansas and in Hampton Inn. Well, the problem is he's been behind. Sid isn't used to being behind, is he, in this game? I think he's been right. I've seen something in your eyes the last few days, like a coldness, a sense of competition.

39:05Tom Fordyce: I do want to get back on top I'm not going to lie I've got the ring and that's banked he doesn't lose much at this he won't like it and we'll see if there's a reaction

39:27OK well that was brilliant do you know what that's made me feel I was already relatively optimistic about Saturday's game against Norway but you get the senses don't you that all the England boys are not only really enjoying themselves out here but they've not looked at the Mexico game and gone that's us done they've looked at that and gone what an experience what do I want to do I want to have that experience all over again

39:48Tom Fordyce: the camp seems like it's in a real good place Morgan Rogers how well does he speak we watched a bit of a press conference which was on his own which was great by the way but him and Dan Byrne just like just like the downtime just seems good it just seems like they're enjoying each other's company whether it's golf whether it's traitors you know whatever it is there just seems like it's in a real good place the perfect place to go into the Norway game we always know you're getting on right when he's talking there he's saying that we just spent three or four hours just like chatting and he realised that we've achieved nothing but they've passed the time and they've enjoyed themselves sounds like one of our evenings it does it does sound like one of our evenings they'll be back the same time tomorrow night doing the same thing class brilliant 100 % Tom so this this could be farewell Well, are you leaving us?

40:35Is your loan up? I mean, has someone put a bid in?

40:41Boys, it has been an amazing four weeks. When I got the shout out from you boys to see if I come out, I always knew I'd have to go back before the end, and that's come to pass. I'm going to join you, hopefully, from back home. So it's not a big goodbye. It's just a little, I'm going to send you on. You boys are going to go to Miami. We're going to catch up after Miami. It has been an amazing, amazing trip. It's been lovely reconnecting with you, Pete, since getting to know you properly. We've had some fantastic times in the pod. We've had some great nights out, some very quiet nights out as well.

41:12So I'm not seeing this as the end. It's just a little World Cup pause, and then let's see what happens when we get home. It's genuinely been great having you back, mate. Honestly, you know, we were right at the start, the OG. Great to have you back on. And listen, this is not, this is just bon voyage. Is that what they say?

41:30Tom Fordyce: Hasta luego. Hasta luego. Yeah. And boys, go on, Sid. I was going to say, are we going to see off with a quiz? Well, I'd actually like to present you with fuck all. You've seen me play football. That is a suitable gift. Boys, I'm not going to leave you that quiz. Oh, thank God. I think you'll like this one. This is in honour of the big game on Saturday. Okay? I've simply called this Norway or Yesway. Norway or yes way Norway Norway is this a Geordie quiz in honour of Dan Byrne as well so I'm going to ask you questions you have to tell me if you think they're true or false by saying Norway or yes way do you have to say it like a Geordie you're going to go first Vikings wore horned helmets Norway or yes way I mean this seems like It has to be a yes way.

42:33But I think there's a potential curveball on this one. No, I'm going to go, yes way. It's the wrong answer. I knew it. I've got a feeling. I think Kasper Schmeichel said that it was the Danish. Well, apparently it was a Victorian invention. They just wore ordinary helmets. Because if you think about it, how awkward it'd be, like running around with your mates with a load of horns. You'd be jabbing each other all the time. They just had ordinary helmets. and the Victorians decided it'd be more poetic if they had horns on their helmets. Norway.

43:09This is already my favourite quiz. Hornet helmets. Who would have thought?

43:18I bet they had them as well.

43:23Crouchy, your question. The population of Norway is smaller than the population of Ireland. nor we're or yes we're yes we're

43:39it's actually worse than your brummie accent when we did one pablo i'm afraid the population of norway is slightly bigger than ireland 5.6 million to 5.3 so it's zero points uh since the norwegian king's guard okay so a small army unit officially adopted a king penguin named Sir Neil's Olav Wasn't that frozen? Olav it was Norway or yes we're It's gotta be a Norway That's a yes we're No That's actually true None of this is good None of it It's not Norwegian It's Geordie A little bit of extra detail for you The king penguin named Sir Neil's Olav resides at Edinburgh Zoo Not sure where it's not in Oslo Zoo and has since been promoted to the rank of Brigadier.

44:32That is unbelievably a yes we're. Crouchy, your one. Norway has won more Winter Olympic gold medals than the United States of America. Yes we're or nor we're? I really want to say nor we're. I want to say yes we're. Is correct for the first point that's on the board. Whoa, he's in. Yes. Sid, okay, I need this. When Erling Haaland makes a latte at home, he uses reindeer milk.

45:06Yes, we're or no, we're? No, we're. It's correct. No, we're. He's actually getting good. I feel like I listened to Biker Grove.

45:19If that would have been a yes, I would have been out that door. Even if he shits at his quiz, he's getting really good at the accent. He is, he is. I think that's one all Peter Crouch Aha Have sold more records Than take that Yes we are Norweer Yes we are It's the correct answer Aha Have sold north of 100 million records Take that A mere 45 million Double Over double Yeah Insane So that puts Crouchy two one up Yeah Two more questions Sid Oslo Capital of Norway Is further south Than Aberdeen Yeswe or Norwe? What a great question. Oslo is further south than Aberdeen.

46:04Tom Fordyce: I'm going to say Norwe. It's an amazing accent and it's also the correct answer which makes it 2-2. To win it. This is to win it. This is to win it. The Norwegian, Roald Amundsen, was the first European man in space. Yeswe, Peter Crouch or Norwe? Norwe, man.

46:32Is the correct answer. He was the first man to the South Pole. Fantastic. So the winner of Yeswe or Norwe is Peter Crouch. Norwe.

46:49Oh, there you go. Brilliant. Wow, Tom, absolutely loved that. I think that was my favourite quiz so far. Yep. Give us one more of the accent before we go.

46:59Tom Fordyce: Norway. Norway. Norway. Anyway, tune in to Horny Vikings and Shanika's Box.