We Debate The Greatest RETRO Football Kits Of All Time - “ I Remember CRYING Over That Shirt..."

0:00This podcast is part of the Acast Creator Network. Well, I just found out that around 67 % of people that watch it on YouTube don't subscribe. So this is a good time for us to say, please subscribe. Is it 67 % or 69 %? Potentially between 67 % or 69%. Okay. What would you rather? A partial? No, not that again. Please subscribe, boy. Hello and welcome to that Peter Crouch podcast with me, Peter Crouch, Notorious SID and Chris Stark are with me as usual. Is everyone okay? Really good. Yeah? Yeah. Great weekend. Really good weekend. Yeah. A lot of love for the Marcus Mumford podcast that came out last.

0:40That was some of your guitar. It was funny. Well, it was good for you. Yeah. I thought you did great. But let's kick things off. Happy birthday. Thank you. Last week. You're one of those that doesn't like to make a big deal about it. And then it creeps up. But I didn't like to. And then obviously, like, I saw Rab, like, looking at, you know, because obviously the girls are very prevalent on Instagram and stuff, aren't they? I've seen her looking at pictures and I thought, oh, she's definitely going to post some stuff. There's no hiding it these days, is there? It's just out there for the world to see.

1:10Well, actually, I only found out because I turned up at the radio and they get like a briefing sheet every day. It was like Peter Crouch's birthday. Bloody hell, it should be a national day, really. We celebrated it on the show. Did you? Yeah, yeah, yeah. We celebrated it. Yeah, we did. We had a golf day. It's our regular golf Friday, really. which is really an excuse to to carry on so how was it yeah it was good it was great great day i mean i played golf and then um said you you ducked out you could see it getting going one way yeah and i'll tell you the way it did go it did go that way did it yeah but you're allowed on your birthday aren't you you can't you can't draw heat for that free pass it was nice um because obviously we've got the golf club where we had i had a few of the lads and then I manoeuvred down to what is a nice little bar where the girls met us.

2:01So that was... It's nice to do that, I think. Yeah. Don't you reckon? Yeah. You kind of get... Don't get in any trouble. Yeah. There's no... You know, everyone feels involved. Yeah. Yeah. You've had your lads one and the wives. Did you get any surprise birthday messages from people? Do you get sort of people out the woodwork? Yeah. It's a lot like New Year's Eve, isn't it? Yeah. You know, people that you haven't spoke to for a long time kind of message you and it's good and bad to that you know the bad is I'm hung over and I've got 500 messages to get through but you know the good side of it is that people care they want to wish you a good well I guess it depends on what the message is because you know like I actually put out a little post for you on Instagram and I thought I put a bit of effort into it I found some old photos and videos did it on Instagram so I know you never see you can never look at that but one of your team will have and uh and uh it did remind me though you know where you get a happy birthday message from someone just says hbd yeah that's worse in my opinion than getting no message at all hbd hbd happy birthday like yeah is that how people do it now yeah that's bullshit that is that at least that would go on the games gone board straight away hbd that's what is it that's that's like it's like H-N-Y isn't it yeah yeah yeah it's the same shit yeah yeah that annoys me that one H-N-Y it's so bad because that is I really can't be asked to send you a message but I feel obliged to do so I can't be bothered to put those little letters in between that's how little I think of you I'd rather not get one yeah I'd rather not get one it's true yeah alright but there was lots of people out there wishing me well and I really appreciate it good a lovely time good did you have a good weekend?

3:51yeah yeah pretty chilled yeah not too much report another week another Watford manager so that's happened again yeah lost another one sadly it was nice Javi it was his second time round he'd been there about three months he knows he knows he knows he knows the script by now yeah it's mad it's got to the stage now where we're not even really announcing when they leave properly it's it's it's just kind of like no one it's not even a shot they don't even report it on Sky Sports News I know yeah it's not like breaking anymore is it? No it's not breaking news they don't do the yellow bar anymore just like you know just in a bit of use Watford manager's gone again and it's annoying because Tom Cleverley's doing well at Plymouth so I can't even say let's try you know let's try and get a bit of groundswell here to get him back I haven't seen the bookies odds for next one but are you are you 40-1?

4:4245-1? We can't be far off it I mean people joke but I do think if there was a team that we were going to come in at Watford's a good shout for us do you think I do because I want to let the podcast take over well why not like try something different on a personal level like I would love it you two have got the badges haven't you we need a break into managing stuff and actually this is the perfect sort of crossover thing if we can make it happen yeah we might have to we might have to sort of be a yes yes man yes man pod don't think you're not a yes man are you I don't think he doesn't answer to anyone well maybe only one person it can it can it will do you know what at Maccasfield right I've I actually went up there recently to Maccasfield they've obviously got a massive game at Brentford you know they've knocked Palace out and because the game's on TNT so they asked me and Joe Colt to go up there and train with the team so we did we had a great day training what a day John Mooney the manager there the staff they made us feel welcome they train at the what used to be the Moss Rose it's the leasing.com stadium now but yeah I loved it full session or was it just like get involved little bit and then nip in nip out or was it one when you're in you're in we were in but they played so many games they played so many games recently that it was quite a light session so it was quite it was a little like boxes then it was like a little transfer game then a bigger transfer game a little bit of a keep ball thing done a little tiny bit of finishing at the end but like you know when you when you're in and you just get the juices flowing again and you know I just loved it but it's an exciting team at the moment isn't it and then you see what's going on and what games they've got coming up it feels like it feels like especially having you guys down there filming as well must have been a bit of a buzz about the place no it was really good it was really good so this was for a build up for the FA Cup game against Brentford yeah against Brentford yeah she's on the Monday so obviously we're a little bit invested with the Macclesfield lads we got them on this podcast I think they were driving to a match or driving to train we got two or three of the boys on before didn't we you know that game got called off by the way did it that night were they playing all the way there they went they come down all the way and it got called off my boy told me no way he listened to the pod he was like dad do you know that game got called off they must have they must have they were going to the train station they got the train down or they were going to meet in the bus or whatever it was.

7:18Yeah, but he got called off. But we feel like we're sort of twinned with them a little bit in this FA Cup campaign, at least. Are they feeling confident? Yeah, they are. I mean, they were talking about the Palace game and saying, you know, when we get them here, we feel like we can beat anyone. It's not what it used to. Make it difficult. And can I just say, the standard in training was good. Decent. You know, like when you think about non-league team or, you know, lower league team against the Premier League, they were good players. Very good players in there. Right, yeah. so they've got they obviously they play Brentford on the 16th it was on a Monday night I think it was on TNT but you know because we were up there right we've ended up thinking how can we help out right so we're going to sponsor the walkout jackets and this is new ground for the podcast well we were always looking at ways to pass the pod right and I got chatting to a few people there and they were like and I was like I'd absolutely love to do that we would love to do that as a podcast so yeah it's a bit of passing of the pod, helping the club out a little bit.

8:18And yeah, because we're invested, why don't we go fully invested? So this is for their warm-up jackets? They only come out before the game. Yeah. Hopefully they'll be wearing these jackets. Leave it up to the people to decide, you know, if there's any designers out there that can help us get some emails in and potentially look at some jackets, we'll choose one. And that'll be in an FA Cup game. It's great. They come out walking, wearing the jackets, it's passing the pod. It's fantastic. It's so good. Live on TNT as well. It's so good. Yeah, of course, because TV game music. Yeah, amazing. Yes, boys.

8:54Yeah, it's all good. I knew you'd be having that head of advertising. I love it. I love all of this stuff. Well, no, I do because I feel like we've sort of calmed down on that one a little bit, you know? Passing the pod and stuff like that. Passing the pod a little bit. I had a little experience of it in the week just gone as well. So, are you aware of this interview I did with Mila Kunis many years ago yes have you seen it you know about this don't you this was like a few years ago I did an interview with Mila Kunis and I sort of panicked didn't really know what I was doing and invited her to a Watford game to Nando's to come meet my mates stuff like that go to this local pub in Northwood it was a bit of a have you seen it Sid have you seen it yeah of course it is that kind of like almost made put your love in a weird kind of way because you just looked like it was it felt like anyone who was in that position asking a question to someone she genuinely loved it didn't she as well she loved it at one point I invited her to my mate Dicko's wedding now that was a bit of a panic move for me that was did you ever play with Carl Dickinson he was at Watford then he was at Stoke yeah so he'd asked he'd invite me to DJ's wedding and I'd just invited her along that's who the mate you're talking about yeah no way yeah yeah but then I mentioned a load of my other mates stuff like that anyway weirdly it's gone viral again recently it's gone big on tiktok and all this sort of thing so we had ashton kutcher on the radio show who is mila kunis's husband and when i interviewed mila kunis originally she said oh you should have bought a watford shirt with with you i would have i would have worn it um which frankly would be my dream and um and so what I was going to say what kind of dream so what so what I did was Ashton Kutcher was on the show so I got a Watford shirt made up and gave it to Ashton Kutcher but it's kind of a weird thing to bring up with him and I was basically like do you mind giving this to your wife to wear I saw that I saw that and there was a little there was a moment of awkwardness when I don't know if he's been briefed about the previous I don't think he had because it didn't look like he had You brought up his wife and he was immediately on the back foot.

11:09I said, look, just because I was hoping when I said it, he'd go, oh yeah, you're that dude who didn't have a clue. So I've gone, look, a bit of an odd one this, but I've got history with your wife. Yeah. That is it. I mean, it's not an open line, is it? It's a loaded line, that. It's not a nice opener. And he just stared at me and was like, and I was, I sort of doubled down on it. I went, yeah, me and her shared a wonderful moment like 10 years ago or whatever it was like he doubled down on it it was like words to that effect or something and then I and then I whipped out the Watford shirt rescued it it was all quite fast moving you haven't got along with these people have you so anyway after that particular interview he watched he did seem stuff seemed to connect and stuff like that and he's promised he's given it to me to Kunis he probably hasn't but he put it on himself didn't he he wore it and he was sort of yeah he got into it and all that but I just think we can manifest this now like if wherever you're listening to this you know unless you're driving close your eyes and just give it for a brief second just Mila Kunis in a Watford shirt Mila Kunis in a Watford shirt that's that's the dream here I just needed to like bang a photo out on social or something she's in my top one to be fair top one your top one wow that got you going yeah I like I like Mila yeah anyway sorry we got slightly lost in this my point is getting her the kit you know this particular Watford shirt would be a dream come true right and there is something in this you know and we're going to do a whole episode right now about kits yeah it's got us thinking about kits let's get into it but that is a weird niche isn't it you do people people are hotter if they're wearing your football shirt would you agree yeah there is there is certain yeah yeah I know what you're saying yeah I know she wouldn't expect her in a Watford kit and that's probably the surprise element of it as well of all the teams you've played for Sid what's the kit that you fancy the most put a lady in one kit yeah put your wife in her kit for example that's pretty bad whose wife oh for god's sake Sid trying to help you ah it's got to be the Chelsea number nine show

13:42I can see the kit you know the one I've been showing the nine on it ah okay right so we're doing kits are we yeah he swerved it

14:02all right Sid what was your talk me for your first kit memories first kit memories so oh first kit memories um well my first ever kit for my first ever team that I played for was a team called the Reds believe it or not and I was only six years old and I've actually got a picture of it on my phone I'll send over to you guys and uh I remember putting this kit on this my first ever team six years old in Mitchum in South London and during the warm up where we were waiting for the older kids to come off the pitch I remember it was a Saturday morning I've slid I've done a little slide tackle like mucking around with the boys I've slid in dog shit right I've gone over to my mum and had to whip it off couldn't play because there wasn't a spare kit I remember crying so I eventually played the full don't go don't go to don't go to ground stay at your feet so I didn't play in that kit but that was my first ever kit that I wore I remember but my first ever team kit was Crystal Palace because again grew up in South London Croydon and it was the Fly Virgin remember the Fly Virgin yes I do and it was like 19 Andy Gray yeah kind of Andy Gray Nigel Mine right Bright Salarco and that was it that was it there the Fly Virgin and it was the year Brian Wright yeah it was the year they got to the FA Cup final against Man United what about that for a game as well was it the 4-3 it was 3-3 and then it went to a replay that's it and then they come out in the yellow and black kit and I remember crying I was like I've never seen the yellow and black kit it was really weird crying again crying again yeah cried a lot when I was young emotional that's the palace that's what you do for watching palace when you're young so that was my first ever memory of a kit that was my first ever jersey.

15:56Well, can we just dig down on that? So the very first one, the red one that got covered in shit. Yeah. If you were to visualize it, it was like, imagine an old vintage Man United, like 60s jersey. You know, like just plain red, white neck and just white cuffs. Obviously no sponsors, no stripes, just plain, really rough as well. Mate, that really triggers me. I remember my mum and dad sort of refused I don't know refused to get me my first kit I wanted was the Man United one with the old Trafford in the background yeah well that was that was the first that was the Andy Cole because I'm sure that was his first kit as Man United yeah probably would have been I remember really wanting that shirt and a couple of the lads at school had it my parents weren't really into football but I just fell in love with it and I remember saying to my mum I'd like a Man United shirt this was before I'd gone to a Watford game or discovered it I was really young and then I remember my mum bless her she got what clearly was like a knock off version of it but I remember her ironing the Man United badge onto it so she's got a red shirt and ironed a Man United badge and then tried to tell me that was the Man United kit she's trying so hard there and I was like I just don't think this is it was she not solving it no she was like no no no this is the kit did you wear it I did wear it but I've got such a memory that's the jersey there isn't it belt that was the one He's got a picture of Old Trafford on it behind.

17:24That's a classic kit. Yeah, it's a classic. Your first Sunday League one, did your mum used to wash the kits as well? Yeah, yeah. You'd be on the rota for that. And then you'd wear the goalie one at home. I used to love that. I used to buzz off that. Yeah. Wouldn't want to be like, you wouldn't want to wash the kit after that first game, would you? No, no. That was straight in a plastic bag. I remember my mate fell in dog shit in a local park and he came home, obviously, and my mum said take your clothes off no worries you can borrow some of Pete so she said run up Pete and get this you should have seen what I put him in I put him in a pair of Bermudas Bermudas right and then the top was a comic relief do you remember when they used to blow on them and it used to change colour she had a comic relief top with a pair of Bermudas and he said you stitched me up and he had to get on his bike and he said he had to do like half hour back to his in Bermuda.

18:25Bermuda shorts. And I told you the lads in the park, have a look at them. Love that. Outranges, Fjord. Talking of kits, we've just seen you in here, what's this about? I'm at Junior B's there, which is obviously, we're basically around our area. It was a lot of QPR, a lot of Brentford. Yeah. Obviously in West London. And we used to train with, yeah, various teams and whatever. And Junior B's was a, you know, it was almost like a Sunday league type they were feeder club for Brentford at the time what is that under eights yeah about six foot there under eights and most of the kids there have got the you know the normal sponsor which is like I can't read it at the moment what is it like say ball stream or something ball stream it's just construction it's construction as they all were in those days something extreme but there's only me and Roman Nemechek there on the left hand side remember his name he's a really good golfer as well actually me and him have got the fly KLM which at the time was the proper Brentford sponsor.

19:22So I think that we actually got like the proper Brentford kits because unfortunately the construction one didn't fit us. Oh yes, you've got a different sponsor. I actually think there's a bit more politics to that than you're letting on to. I think they've gone, we've got a player here lads and we need to give him the shirt. Roman was a really good player. Well there you go, see? He was a good player. I think you've been given the coat at an early age now. Do you reckon? Do you reckon? Well, I'm just saying. because it looks like there's some flats behind us I mean the pitch is so by the way you need to see this on YouTube if you watch this YouTube you'll see it but like just to explain this it's the most stereotypical photo of of a football team at this level like even to the fact it's on the diagonal and everything all photos were like this the only thing that's missing is one of you sort of resting on a football at the front there's one in the net behind but yeah I mean listen great times loved it like you know some of the best times ever aren't they you know didn't end up at Brentford but I remember my first ever game was at Griffin Park West Middlesex Colts and talking to kits this was a green and black kit with Middlesex Mowers written on it and yeah and then we played at Griffin Park it was brilliant you were Middlesex Mowers were you West Middlesex Colts was our team Middlesex Mowers was the yeah so our football team was sponsored by Middlesex Machines Middlesex Machine Tools was it?

20:51Yeah but we used to get bantered quite hard because I played for Pinstars, we've spoken about them before still going, great team and Pinstars at that time were sponsored by Middlesex Machines but I always remember a big game against Rice-Lip Rangers and that and they would take the piss because they had a proper sponsor but it sounded like Middlesex Machines didn't they which to an 8 year old was an easy target yeah it was an easy one that so my other kit when I so I got scouted for Arsenal quite young so I was playing for Arsenal and we back then obviously it wasn't an academy it was like school boys you know it was like you used to go every sort of school holidays and train throughout the week but games wasn't weekly it was that you'd play for your local team but how many of you would there have been at that level well I was the only one in Surrey basically going to like under 9, 10 there was a few There was a couple of us.

21:45Leon Britton was another one that played in my team that eventually went on to play for Swansea in West Ham. So how did you get discovered at that point? It was a five-a-side tournament in Hampton Court. Yeah. Really? Yeah, playing for my Sunday League team. But you were that good that someone's picture... I mean, well, they get scattered younger now, don't they? Five, six years old. But I was nine. And I think I got a picture of me in the old JVC kit. And again, that JVC kit reminded me of the year that Spurs won the FA Cup. when Gaza scored the semi-final goal I think it was that JVC really old one 1990 it must have been that was it when Gaza got injured yeah did you know you were that good no but nine years old you must remember that yeah I just I was just playing I didn't find it easy I just I don't know that kit was a banger by the way big kit wasn't it huge kit I'm thinking of David Rowe yeah Paul Davis people play like that yeah I've got a weird memory like when I see a kit I instantly think of a random player like Paul Davis is probably not someone that you would you know you'd go to other people wouldn't you but I don't know yeah so that was my first kit when I was a schoolboy at Arsenal which is a great kit that's such a beautiful kit it was a great kit it's a good team that as well wasn't it George Graham era yeah it was George Graham era yeah and then and then from then on it went into like I mean Arsenal kits were great back then you had the Dreamcast one which was like one size fits all wasn't it it was like that was a tough one to grow into that it was a bit baggy for me that one bit baggy yeah the Dreamcast one we had some we had some good times in that because we were successful as well the first team were really successful and our youth team was really successful as well but how good was it when a kit come out you used to buzz for a kit wasn't it yeah i i mean obviously i had a few england ones earlier on in the days but i remember probably my obviously growing up kind of chelsea yeah um my dad was i'm the one i remember was the one i really wanted that i couldn't get was a what's the color a turquoise commodore third kit niche it was niche it was a turquoise and i if you're a Chelsea fan, you definitely would know it.

24:10They've brought it back. Look, that was, there we go. I think that was the original, that was the Commodore. I believe they've brought it back. I've never seen that. I've never seen that, yeah. The Commodore kits were good. It was, that was kind of my first time. I remember the kit, but I've never seen that colour jersey. Yeah, it was like a third kit or a weight kit. They very rarely wore it, but that's what made it so difficult to get. But that was the one I really wanted. But yeah, the Commodore, and then it moved to, I think was it Cause after that yeah I remember from Commodore to Cause yeah I remember Cause and that was probably my first kit that I remember go on who after three who do you see in the Cause kit what Chelsea parody oh one second one two three Mark Steen oh we've all gone different we've all gone different oh we've Mark Steen just because I think it was kind of that that era I'm sure there was a little period in between actually yeah of Cause maybe not because I remember I remember it being Commodore for a long time.

25:12Amiga. I knew there was one in between. I knew there was an Amiga in there. And that was Tony Derrigo. That was his NF data system cup final. I went to watch. I'm sure it was Amiga then. There it is. Oh, yes. I knew there was a year of Amiga. So what was Amiga? Amiga is like Commodore. Like the computer was called Amiga. It was Commodore Amiga. Really? Yes, it was still Commodore. Yeah. That was Mark Steen. That is Mark Steen. He's modelling it. He might be modelling it. That is Mark Steen. So that was my first era. And then I actually had that disgusting orange thing. Orange and grey. So that's the one.

25:50It looked like the telly. You know when you'd fell asleep and you'd left the telly on all night? The fuss. Yeah, yeah. Do you remember that? Do you remember that? And then you have the girl holding the thing like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Chris, you know the one. Chris. The girl with the clown. Yeah, with the clown. With the clown. Yeah, and you knew you fell asleep too long. That's the one I see Rude Hullet in. That's it. That's the kid I see Rude Hullet in. Because he came and there's a video of me somewhere, right? And I'm up there. I'm saying this because we can dig this out.

26:23There's a video out there and I've got a feeling it was ITV News or something like that. Like LWT, remember that? Yeah. And I think something like that. And I was up there and I think it was either Hullet or Hoddle came to the club might have been Hoddle and it was the start of the era where you know Chelsea were buying players yeah and I went up there and they were and you know and they grabbed people around the ground and say are you excited for Glenn Hoddle to come yeah I was like I can't believe it I can't believe it Glenn Hoddle I think that's all I said and then they said you're getting Hoddle on your shirt and I went yeah getting Hoddle on my shirt and that was it do you know what I have actually seen that clip that's been shown before isn't it I think that might have been shown on TNT or somewhere that's good news then because it means that has been dug out of that I think it's either how did they find that yeah yeah I have seen this I have seen that yeah what was your first what for the kit that you can remember well the first one because I only know because I tried to buy it recently but I can't get the right size because the sizing's all off on these kits You tried to buy it recently.

27:35Yeah, so Watford Lecoq Sportif. Ah, yeah. Keep your eye on something I did also. Almost quite a big, baggy... Yeah. What sponsor? Because I think a sponsor... Funds for you. Funds for you. That's it. Was that a gift to Noel Williams here? That is a... Neil Cox. It was a Neil Cox. It was a Neil Cox as well. Neil Cox. Dare I say it? Even a Sean Dyche maybe. I don't know. I remember that. I remember that. Tommy Smith. they were my favourite kits you know like that had the shine you know like yeah we had yeah I know what you mean the shine ones even the ones that we played Cops Ball T were pretty famous for that because we had a bit of QPR yeah I didn't like the ones that was like a matte finish especially when we started playing because you wouldn't obviously feel comfortable to start but I always found that when you had a shirt that had a bit of a gloss to it it felt nicer yeah I know what you mean I know exactly what you mean yeah we had a few at QPR I remember going to watch the youth team at QPR a few times and Influence was the brand that made them I think there you go look so like it was made by Influence can you see it the little like neon sign they had loads of little loads of kits that was when the Guinness kit was amazing do you remember the Guinness factory buying they used to chain at Guinness that's why they ended up sponsoring that's what it was all about that's so nice that's got to be one of the nicest kits of all time That Guinness QPR kit's right up there.

29:03And again, it's got that little shine, isn't it? It's beautiful. It's a belt of that, isn't it? That would be worth a few quid. Yeah, and also an original one of them. They need to bring some of these vintage kits back. Well, you just think, like, what's your thoughts on some of these vintage kits with, like, jeans and things like that? Like, people going out in them. I kind of love it. Do you not like it? I think, I really like, I'll tell you what I saw recently. it was a bloke who walked into a club and it showed his mate, his mate was filming and he walks into the middle of a nightclub wearing a drogba shirt.

29:37And, but with the attitude of drogba, you know, where you first go into a club and you do a lap just to see who's in there sort of thing. And just to kind of talent scout, I guess it is. He goes in, but with the drogba shirt, there's a bit of intent and a bit of sort of, yeah. I know what you're saying. I don't know. I don't know if, if you walk in in, it depends if you're, you know, if I, if I went wrong, I'm going to put this Guinness QPR shirt on and like, this is like ledge, like I'm going to go out. I think I would go, yeah, no problem. Go out. I think, you know, I basically want to say is I think girls would reject you, but lads would think you're fantastic.

30:11It's, I think you're so right. I think it's the, you've nailed the difference between with stereotyping here, blokes and girls in one. Yeah. I just think lads would go like, oh, have a look. That is so good. He's got a drug. Blokes would look at you and go, you look incredible. Yeah. Yeah. Would, get him away from me. he's a weirdo yeah the game changer would be the name on the back I know these kind of vintage brothers didn't have the names but if you had the player's name on the back it would be totally different if you had your own name on the back if you had Wagley on the back of that Guinness shirt there I think you're that's a smooth shirt yeah if you had Alan McDonald club legend on the back not quite as smooth what about if you had Tucker's 19 on the back you're getting fist bumped off all the lads but you're going at home on your own.

30:58What about England kits? Yeah. England jerseys. Yeah, I'm trying to think of my first ever. Oh, the Italian 90. Yeah, sure. That was the original. I mean, we brought them back for the Euros, didn't we? Yeah. Remember the blue one that I had on for the White Festival? Yeah. I think anything with green flag on it is a winner for me. Anything. Tracksuit, shirts, anything with green flag is the nuts. Yeah, well, green flag, that's when they were chained at Bisham Abbey, wasn't it? Yeah. Terry Venables Day. That's it. Big baggy. Do you know the only one I like is the Umbro... Polo shirt? My favourite one was the Umbro all-in-one sub suit.

31:38Yeah. Do you remember that? Oh, yeah. I think you've spoken about this, because didn't we manage to get hold of one for you? Amazing. No, that was the England shell suit. I'm talking about the all-in-one. All-in-one, like a warm-up sub. Yeah. Do you remember the subs? They used to wear the all-in-one thing. The winter. Like, you're hot. Unbelievable. They used to have a green flag polo. Yeah, it was a baby. Yeah, men's baby grow. It was basically a baby grow. Green flag polo. And I remember it had a sort of, obviously the green flag with the green flag, like a little bit of green. It was so smart and it had little stripes on the collar.

32:13I remember wanting that so much. People must have this stuff though. It's all hidden away. I remember all the coaches as well, like Grey and Ricks. I remember Grey and Ricks, like a couple of the coaches at Chelsea having them the only ones, baby grows. What? And the zip, that is a zip. See where the zip goes like diagonally down. So you just open it. So it's a romper suit. It's a baby grow. Exactly that. That was it. And adults would wear this. The players on the bench. Yeah. Rick's had them on. And he was the assistant manager. Oh, these need to come back. Have a look, look at them. This is a forgotten trend.

32:55look at them it's like a ski suit why are they not around now? oh man I remember I wanted one I'm sure I got one I don't think any football teams had this in the last no 20 years then yeah no they're a long time gone look look at them look top level one he looks like he's on a catwalk there that fella thermal suit look see this is what I'm talking about like you know he's on a catwalk there he's a top level he's but that could that could easily be a fashion week sort of thing couldn't it like that that's that's the range that's what we thermal suits especially if it's Umbro was it only Umbro who did it yeah they were they were the main ones they were the leading manufacturer at the time yeah I think yeah Nike and Adidas weren't on Umbro's level no in English football no no I think do you agree with that yeah 100 % I think they were some of the best kits the Umbro England kits as well they were some of the best did you have one yeah I think I had I'd even have had every England jersey growing up but I played for the 20 when I played for England under 21s it was I'm sure it was the Umbro one with the badgers in the middle so it had been around about 2001 maybe I'll tell you what was a really nice England shirt it was the 98 England shirt with the little cross the little the little square cross almost on the collar of it France 98 yeah that was nice what was the deal with you then so if Crouchy I'm just thinking if you're a professional footballer right it's one thing for me as a fan going and wearing an England shirt out and about if you're a professional player but not playing for England can you still wear a shirt an England shirt out and about but when I was playing yeah you mean wouldn't really do it oh I wouldn't really do it yeah I don't think that's acceptable I'd say it's frowned upon what a shame yeah because you're neither a fan there or a in between it's a grey area it's a grey area there's a real grey area I think with football shirts like do you do you continue to wear them with jeans after a certain age and I also think I think it's different with England shirts to club shirts you know as well because I think the England shirt is a little more of a novelty when you're wearing it during the World Cup and all of that it's like there's flags everywhere so it sort of feels more right wearing an England shirt to the pub whereas I wouldn't necessarily wear a Watford shirt to the pub that wasn't on it no I agree yeah I think an England shirt is more acceptable definitely I think you can only wear one to a sporting event I think if you're just going down the road to go for you know Tesco to get some eggs and milk then you can't stick on a football jersey to go...

35:51So you never put a shirt on in the comfort of your own home to watch on TV? No. Oh, I do. I do that all the time. Do you? Yeah. Do you think civilians, right? Do you think civilians, I'm talking these, when I say civilians, not football people. Yeah. If they see an England shirt with jeans on coming towards them, do they cross the road?

36:14I think... Is there a stigma behind an England shirt? with jeans during the day with no game on yeah that's step over material you're swerving that do you reckon yeah I think there will be a small minority that will acknowledge that yeah there'll be some some very pleased with it but on a hold on let's say it's the middle of the world cup you pass someone on the street wearing an England shirt that's perfectly normal that's what I'm saying yeah I'm talking I'm taking a shirt out of context yeah a shirt during the day yeah down the shops game's gone is that acceptable no no for a man of 30 years old no well I'm asking you the question I'm not passing judgement it's a no from me it's a no from me it's no to wearing an England shirt just out and about what just like just random yeah yeah that's what I'm asking he's saying no you seem to think that is okay I think if I saw someone walking down the road here wearing an England shirt I wouldn't think anything of it if Ross walked in right in here now right with an England shirt on I think you'd go what the fuck are you doing I don't know if I would aren't you not full kit you mean just a shirt jeans no I don't I think it's a statement it's a statement you can't deny it's a statement it's a statement of a bellend see I think that's a disgraceful thing to say about the national shirt what I'm saying is it's a happy medium but I don't know where I don't know where to sit with it listen if the world cup is on I'm all for it right because you're like you know I can't imagine you in an England show we'll have to make this happen because I wouldn't walk around in a football jersey because also I don't think you see ex-players walking around do you know what I mean like imagine Gary Leffler in the Man United show walking down and shooting achievements on

38:01oh we've got I do want to see that though but the thing is you're asking a question to someone that wears a football jersey indoors like just randomly he'll just get up out of bed and just stick a he does yeah I've seen him he's done the pod in Watford's shirt regularly he's done it yeah yeah I think the problem with footballers is they're afraid to be fans sometimes. Everything's got to be too fancy. You're worried too much. Just step into it. I think it's because we wear a jersey week in, week out. You wouldn't get a painting decorator on a Sunday morning and get up out of bed and put his ovals on.

38:40That's a good point. It's true. It's a good point. You want to do something different. Yeah. That's what I'm looking at. Look, the happy medium here is we order a load of these, the substitute romper suits, the thermal things. Get the rompers back out. I reckon you'll see a surge in them, tell you now. I want one. Very quickly, for niche player in the 98 England shirt there, who do you imagine? Who's the first player that comes to the world? That shirt there? Yeah.

39:07Batty. Do you know why? That's mad, because I had exactly the same. I loved, you know, I remember watching the thing on David Batty. you remember he scored you remember he missed the pen that knocked us out right and they interviewed him and I remember I think he was pushing his son on the swings and it went back to him and he said oh you know what you're doing now and he was you couldn't see anyone more less bothered yeah oh really yeah I don't is it just me I've not heard anything about him over the last few years the most unassuming man just like he's just like that's the way football goes eh oh my god cold like yeah cold I love it though it was actually that's probably the right right way to do to deal with it but I in my head because I was so devastated by the whole the whole situation in my head it was like oh my god how can he I bet he's not been able to live it's the way he takes that penalty and almost just spins round you know that little jump little hop yeah a little hop and then I remember we went back to him and he was just like football

40:10never to be seen again you just you need to be like that otherwise it would continue wouldn't it best way to deal with it you don't speak of him too much as a player it is the penalties the thing that comes around to I mean again it would be a fascinating person to speak to just because you know he was a he was a great player I'd love to get him on the pod he's a great player you never in speak Blackburn won the league didn't he with Blackburn yeah yeah he was part of that Jack Walker era you know he had the fight with Graham Lissot didn't he yeah and really good player Leeds he was fantastic legendary Leeds you don't see him at all now Blackburn went to Newcastle he must purposefully distance himself from it yeah that'd be good to know why talking of kits that was the one that threw me actually I think they were one of the first team to do it that Newcastle team I think it was back when Batty was there the shirt number on the back was it in the shield can you remember do remember that yeah god yes do you remember that no imagine a stripy Newcastle jersey and the number on the back was in like it had a background to it you mean like a shield yeah and the name was on it as well yeah I can picture it do you like the fact that they're bringing back some of these shirts like I think I'm sure Newcastle I'm sure I saw them the other day some of the t-shirts they were arriving in were that kind of kind of maroon and you know the kind of stripy hoop one yeah the Newcastle brown now I'm sure they were still wearing them the players now the vintage stuff is brilliant isn't it I can imagine Ginola in it you know Ginola had that shirt on yeah that was some team that Newcastle team I like get the vintage stuff back I love it almost like the better the kit was made better sometimes by a really good team you know like that Asprea Ginola Newcastle team Kevin Keegan's team they're iconic kits because you saw them every week because they were so good yeah yeah you're right with that it's the same with the JVC with Arsenal Crown Paints Liverpool yeah great teams just make the kit better, don't they?

42:16Brazil sums it up, doesn't it? The great Brazil teams. I had that kit. I had the 1970 kit my dad bought me. Old school, retro. Obviously, I was born in 81, but I had the 70 kit. So they won the World Cup? Soccer scene he got it from. Soccer scene in Carnaby Street. Oh, what a shop. Oh, mate, I had it. I had the blue shorts and everything. Yeah. Just nothing on it, just the Brazil logo. Do you know what? They was, it was a really hard kit to get hold of a Brazil kit. It was. It was. Our national team's just not allowed to have a main sponsor. Well, there was a few. I remember there was a few places like, because we were Carlsberg when I was at Liverpool.

42:56And I remember we played in a, in a Champions League qualifier. Got a feeling it was Bordeaux in France. And we weren't allowed our sponsor because they weren't allowed alcohol brands or something. Right, right. I don't know if that's a thing in France, but I'm pretty sure it was Bordeaux that we couldn't have it, which is, you know, which is a bit rich considering they're pretty famous for wine.

43:23But just some of these, if we were to entertain it, let's say Dream England sponsor, front of shirt. Not just for the training kit, like it would go with the... Why stop at Maccasford? This could be the start for us. Because just no one thought about it. No, I think FIFA don't have their own sponsors, don't they? Yeah. And they don't allow teams to have sponsors for that reason, I would suggest. FIFA have the monopoly on it. It'd be like roast beef or something. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. PG Tips. Or the England sponsor. Yeah. It'd have to be something very British, wouldn't it? Kellogg's.

44:09Kellogg's. Kellogg's can be good Warburton's Ofrol yeah yeah Ofrol will be the dream something old school yeah

44:23I just moved manoeuvring nicely into our league I've had a really good week good few weeks yeah I've just it was the Desmond I've been called the Dubai Desmond on on emails people socials and everything and Dubai, Desmond, I went for a 2-2 and Spurs City, it came off. It wasn't looking lightly in the first half, I'll be honest. And I kind of turned away in disgust. I've got to admit, I didn't watch the second half. It was my birthday weekend. I've had something planned and I'd much rather have sat in, obviously, and watched the game. But we went somewhere and I just didn't see it coming at that time and Spurs got a great result.

45:02And that was my three-pointer. I got a four-pointer, big week for me. just a one for you Sids and Chris you got two points so you're languishing a little bit there Chris on 37 I'm on 46 catching Sids on 48 I just can't seem to get any memento in this and I was watching the United Fulham game 90 minutes it was 2-1 I was thinking brilliant I've got it in I thought just see it out and then I think it was nine minutes extra time what's going on with extra times at the moment they're getting silly are they? yeah not happy and another one before the game's gone well I think so I just think it's the norm now to have these massive amount of extra time on the end yeah it's meant to stop time wasting isn't it to try and keep it quicker but they're just owing on at the end which is you're guaranteed a goal I think you're guaranteed one there's always a goal can we get the odds I know we do this thing with Paddy Powell can we get the odds on like 90 plus minutes goals because that's a good bet to have yeah be interested in that we'll have a look at that it is because I always think when it gets to 90 minutes you see that board go up and it's always that noise from the crowd isn't it it's like like opportunity and it's so different to any other 10 minutes in the game yeah it's a sudden that's right but it's true isn't it and then there's wind and sails I'm there going oh god it's never going to say 2-1 it ends up 3-2 yeah mental but that's like Rosini I think Rosini said it actually because there was carnage at their game you know Chelsea West Ham he said tactics out the window you know just go for it Go for it.

46:36Yeah. It may be the only country in the world, again, you know, similar to corners. We just fucking love them. Tackles, we love them. The ball goes up with nine minutes. I think it's another, I don't know, I'm not sure any other country's years like we do. Well, you saw Mourinho put the goalie up, didn't you? With Benfica. Peak. Mourinho. Which was brilliant. Brilliant. But they reckon as well, sorry, just on that game, they reckon that Jose tactically delayed them coming out for the second half so he would kick off to get more time so he would kick off after all the other games because all the other games were on the same night so he would know where they would be oh no really wow that was possibly the ploy that's a huge conspiracy and then my next conspiracy for you based on what we're talking about here if you're a manager and you're looking for little edges is there something to be said for time wasting in the early bits of the second half because the 10 minutes at the end is more valuable to you.

47:36What, because you're near enough guaranteed a goal? I don't know, just a different sort of... It plays better to you. Yeah, yeah. But it can't be far off people. I mean, for me, it's one for the game's gone board if we're playing most of the game after the game. It happened in the... Sorry, the Man U Fulham game. Fulham equalised, didn't they? In 90 plus minutes. Yeah. And then it showed on them celebrating and then Marco Silva, but then it went to Carrick instead of just sort of being you know gutted he was like we've still got time you know like the old Trafford of old it was like come on we've still got time they're never in the school Fergie was doing his I like it when Fergie celebrates what the amount of times that he's done little arm up you know late doors but I heard him talking about that recently it's just a mindset of like getting in a box and you know passing it around and just throwing people forward yeah launch it it's the thing right yeah you don't have to you don't have to you don't have to stick to your belief in those moments.

48:32No. It doesn't matter who you are and what your beliefs are. Anything goes. You can't pump it in the box in the last five. Yeah. Don't be any stigma like that. It gets, things happen. Yeah. And I think to your point where there is always a goal, I think it's kind of, we're in a period of time where you expect a goal in those situations. Yeah. But look, the end result of that was I went from three points back to one point and this is my issue with this league. I just can't get three points it's doing my head in me neither I need a serious bluey because I've been well you've caught me well we're still adrift from you a little bit but I've just I've just hit a purple patch here but let's get into it this next part of the podcast is supported by Paddy Pound it's a big weekend fixture this is Liverpool versus Manchester City Liverpool are 7-5 we've got Manchester City 13-8 I mean it's a very there's not much in it at all Liverpool's slight favourites very slight repeat repeat of last meeting it'll be 3-0 Man City 22-1 can't see that happening I thought I thought Liverpool did well on the weekend yeah Virts looks sharp I thought Eketike do you know what Eketike's second goal reminded me of we burst past him go on who do you think what the actual finish yeah yeah Romario oh Romario yeah reminded me of Pete Torres at Anfield oh yeah you know like where where he slows people down and then bursts shifts gone like he kind of slowed him I remember him doing one to Rio a couple of times actually where we slowed him down and then bang gone with the pace and then outside the right foot reminded me of him he he I I was up at Anfield on Champions League the week before last week and there was a little bit of like you know where you walk around you know where you go from like the the compound TV compound then you start walking to the stadium you walk through the fans just doesn't feel right at Anfield they're trying to make it out there's a lot of outside noise but the fans it seems like a little bit of nervous strange season this one isn't it it is yeah I mean they listen they won 6-0 on the night but I don't think things are great there I will say on that though I did enjoy you on the co-coms thank you for that game good at that it's a tough gig I feel you good at it yeah I like it it's a tough gig I do like it I didn't know you were doing that man I just tuned in I passed the pod passed the pod got a lot of messages passed the pod I said about enjoying it but enjoy it by being disciplined when those four new up lovely yeah but I think that's a tough get I think people don't realise that CoCom's role it's quite hard it is because you were I think you were with Sam Matterface weren't you who is brilliant and you know that is a skill being a commentator that CoCom's thing is so immediately the analytics you're having to constantly do without really being briefed in that as well.

51:31There was the free kick. That was the one. I text you after it. Sid's called that free kick exactly who was going to take it, like where it was going, and they scored exactly from. I think that just, I think that literally just sums up being a co-commentator, especially if you've played the game, which the majority have. You just see things happening. So, so Bozlai just rolls it back, Salah sort of whips it. It's the fact you said it would take a little touch. It's just saying, and you have the confidence to do it as well but Joe what it is the key to it is is the key is sometimes silence is golden as well so knowing when not to speak so it's a hard one but yeah Barenford was a little bit I'm just sort of I mean now they had a good result midweek and again good result against Newcastle Man City aren't firing as well I mean let's be honest they should have no they're not well they threw it away didn't they get Spurs exactly very comfortable and obviously Pet he was fuming a little bit wasn't he it felt like after the game I think the decision on Gay with the goal with Solanke but what a goal from Solanke what a goal unreal ok so what are we saying here Chris do you want to have a look at the old yeah I'll have a equivalent what's the what's the listeners saying the one thing they were saying about that Spurs game though is you know Spurs get a good result there and the only people it benefits is Arsenal which is Arsenal won the league on that weekend I've got an Arsenal fan yeah mate who's who's just a bit like buzzing with Spurs the week before they were arguing amongst each other aren't they Arsenal fans now they're all arms out now they're all hugging yeah mate he's Arteta out look at him now he's giving it that one now okay just having a little look on Instagram we've got Jordan Winter hi Jordan Winter says hi Crouchy from Bahrain one ball and Steve did well regards to your families he's gone for a Liverpool 1 Man City 1 Rhys Gibbon good name he's gone for a City 3-1 win I don't know I don't know if you can be that that sort of bold after the weekend

53:41Ethan Chilcott Oliver Crane this is a good name Denzel Keast should we go with him? Denzel's gone for a Liverpool 2-1 win this is the thing I think it's going to be split all over the place with this. It's always a tough one, isn't it? It's a tough one because Man City aren't, they're not firing, especially defensively. I think there's going to be goals in this. I don't know if it's going to be 2-2, 3-2, 2-1. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. And it could go either way. I like this shout. Who's this who's done this? Sean Law. Sean Law Law. Anyway. Probably getting your name wrong. But he's got 3-2 Liverpool.

54:24Does that mean a bonus point if that comes off? Yeah, yeah. Oh, fuck. That could be good, couldn't it? All right, 3-2 Liverpool. That sounds like a great game.

54:34Do you buy Desmond? I'd like to, yeah. That's what I'd like to go for. You're looking that in? I'm just sticking with a 2-2. Yeah, well, if you allow me to, I will go for it. Because I... You've been working for a reason. You've been working and I just feel like this. I can see it Dubai Dubai Desmond I think this is one of the hardest ones to date this season we've had this is to call what are you going to go for? Liverpool 3-2 are you? oh that's an extra point as well that's an extra point oh got to go City 3-2 then haven't you surely are you going to go 2-2? no you I'm going to go 2-2 unless you've won it no no no you're 2-2 you're 3-2 Liverpool oh gosh okay I'll go City just to keep it alive and I'll go 2-1 okay we've got the Paddy's boost each pick a leg of the crouch for a bet builder odds on that bet builder boosted by 20 % it'll be put on this Paddy Power special section of the website and an app I'm going to go with a player to score first Hugo Eketike okay I'll go for a player to be carded Mark Gahey and I'll go player to have two plus shots on target Semenyo okay the odds are correct at the time of recording please gamble responsibly we're going to segue straight into Leeds versus not in the forest now Leeds they've only lost two of the last 12 across all competitions losing just one of the last six at home that's surprising isn't it yeah it is I didn't have thought that it is yeah I watched Forest actually midweek they were dominant Ferranvaros was it Ferranvaros that are called Robbie Keane was manager I felt a bit sorry for him they started well Robbie Keane's team there but yeah they dismantled them in Hen Forest they looked good but Leeds different proposition at home I would say yeah yeah Leeds at home are quite strong aren't they I mean I know they got smashed by Arsenal 4 we thought there'd be a bit more in that didn't we I did we thought it'd be a tiny bit closer yeah I did what would you like to go with Sid you go first

56:45I think I think Daishi gets it done. I think Forest get an away win and I'm going to say it's going to be a 2-0 Forest win. Big game this one, isn't it? Which is powerful. Would you like to go, Chris? Yeah, again, it looks pretty split on the messages I'm getting on Instagram here. I'm going to go for Leeds 2, Forest 1. I'm following Archie Mills here. Leeds 2, Forest 1. Okay. I'm going to go with with 1-1 horny for draws again love the draw I think we've all gone different as well which is great very horny for draws moving straight into Manchester United versus Tottenham should be a good game this one I think does anyone else when we do these predictions when you say your prediction and then someone else says theirs do you ever go that's a really good one yeah and I was thinking it but then I was like now that you've said it I like it more yeah yeah do you get that yeah all the time I'm regretting the 3-2 work.

57:51But what can you do? What can you do? So, sorry, this one's United Spurs, yeah? United Spurs? New Manchester United. They do look good, don't they? Yeah, I think it's big to have Solanke back, but I don't know if he's injured for this game. Obviously, we've got, you know, people that work for our team on it have said that he's out, but obviously we don't trust that.

58:18our team at times have been dog shit at this kind of thing I mean we've very we've quite often had games where we've had the team written down a plan at home who are actually away so I don't trust anything they say now but yeah regardless if Salaki's in or not if he's in it makes it a lot a lot better because I you know I think Tottenham are a better side with someone up top like that and Tottenham are a much better way from home as well I know they've got the draw against City but they are better away from home well the fans haven't been over the moon with how it's been going at home have they let's be honest no very much Michael Carrick got the bounce at the moment yeah that's why I think it'll be Manchester United to win personally yeah yep I think so who have you been first I haven't gone yet no go on then I'm going to go with 2-0 oh no I wanted that so I'm gonna go I'll go United 2-1 then I'm gonna go United 3 1 oh come on okay gentlemen good luck good luck

59:35okay boys I do like catching up on kits like I'm a bit of a kit pervert yeah to be honest boots and kits no no back when I was young I remember boots that was a joke I was massive on boots I used to love the big fold over high techs yeah I remember watching that I was at Griffin Park and I remember watching I think Chelsea playing the pre-season friendly there and I was right in the corner flag and I remember like Dennis Wise used to dink these little these little corners in you know the near post corner yeah and I was thinking how do you barely touch it like that yeah and I was sure it was the fold over big high tech fold over I've got a bit of a ball fetish myself at the moment I've started collecting, treating myself to an Ultimax not too long ago.

1:00:19It's the Mita ones mainly, I must say. Mita's great. The Ultimax. Yeah. But original, Mita, Delta, Ultimax. Oh my God. That's about 94, 95, isn't it? Is that the pinnacle? I think so. Yeah. You don't get much better than that. Nah. Don't think you get much better than that. It's nice to reminisce. So I just think, isn't it mad that, you know, I was a ball boy at a time in an era where, you know, because Man United did the same thing, that Umbro ball. And because at Stamford Bridge at the time, it was the Umbro ball. I was like, you know, but you went somewhere else to be a different ball. There was no monopoly on balls.

1:00:54You know, you play with what you're given. Yeah. And I think they were so different. Yeah, they were all different. The quality, the standards. They were all different. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right. Shall we get into some... Sore issue for me, that. but yeah we carry on yeah yeah okay listener messages love you pod Chris and regards to Crouchy and Steve heard you talking about marriage names in a recent pod it reminded me of a girl I knew at school with the surname Trotter years later it turned out she married a guy with the surname Gammon oh wow the pork is strong in the family I guess oh he carries on continuing going to go with names.

1:01:40I honestly think the BBC's own Nicky Cardwell missed out on her true calling, born to be a ref, keep up the good work, lads. Cardwell. True. Yeah. But that's great. When the job matches the name, it's that reporter, do you remember him during the fuel crisis reporting from, they just had him reporting from garages, Phil McCann. Yeah. Phil McCann. That is absolutely phenomenal, isn't it? World class. That reminded me of the Rigatoni, didn't it? I used to call him to call him Pasta the rig I called Tony his nickname's Pasta John thank you for your message there it's a good one I like that yeah lovely okay got one here alright lads I was just listening to my latest pod I've taken my wife's name and double barrelled my surname you know we were talking about this yeah yeah he's gone for it it helps her dad's the golf pro at Ealing oh listen my dad was a was a member there played there many a time he played in the open but he played in the Walker Cup and he played alongside the likes of Seve.

1:02:42It was an easy decision to make. I hope you're well. Love the pod. So he's just taking, like you said about kind of a status thing. Yeah. You know, potentially men taking people's names. Yeah. This is from Sloane here. So yeah, Sloane's seen an opportunity in that he knows he's married into quite a cool dynasty. Wants to have a bit of that brand on himself. I just think about people like, you know, you know like Tom Cruise he's got daughters hasn't he the fella's just come in and it's like I could be a cruiser yeah genuinely there's potential for me to be a cruiser yeah Steve Cruise can you imagine it do you remember having this conversation on Friday with the lads at the golf club yeah I think I might do it after golf it was a few beers deep yeah well this topic got brought up this topic got brought up oh is it present on your mind now yeah it's just it's kind of got it's a big deal mate it is 100 % or a crouch don't put yourself down I'd happily I'd happily be a crouch yeah I'm thinking like you know of of Grammy like Oscar winning yeah you know imagine being a Spielberg yeah well I interviewed Chris Pratt last week I'm not suggesting you'd want to be a Pratt per se but his father-in-law Arnold Schwarzenegger really well imagine being a Schwarzenegger I didn't know that until he casually dropped that during the chat.

1:04:07Clearly, I've missed something massive there, but imagine that. If I'm Chris, right? How have you not gone through? If I'm Chris and my father-in-law is Arnold Schwarzenegger, I'm giving up my name. Yeah. A hundred percent. Oh, yeah. A hundred percent. Don't worry. Don't worry about you being a Stark. I'll be a Schwarzenegger. Imagine that. I'll be a Schwarzenegger. Imagine that. Because wherever you go and if someone asks your name, they're going to double take. Yeah. Schwarzenegger. You could, I mean, that's tables for life. And it's like, you know, like if you want a table there like so what's your name sorry Chris Schwarzenegger I imagine getting used to that as well because you'd be like let's say you don't meet the person you're going to marry generally to your like at least mid-twenties right so you've got so used to your name this is why I don't think we give girls enough credit it is like mental that most of the time they're just giving up their name like that it's just the done thing isn't it a total rebrand in your mid-twenties rebrand Well, it's a bit of a mud one.

1:05:05Like, even like, I'm looking at Kelly Cates now, for instance, right? You know, poor girl's Adele Glees. Yeah. She's Adele Glees. Yeah. Like, that's a great name. Like, you know, her father's made it an incredible name. Like, you go anywhere in Liverpool, you know? As soon as you ring up and say, it's Miss Cates, you're not getting the same table Adele Glees is getting. I think what you want to do is like... Yeah. Mate, you're spot on. Mate, you're spot on. Especially if you're in the same area. Right, in Liverpool? you might not even get a table it depends on the area as well I think being married gives you the opportunity to choose which name is going to best function for your family rather than assume one I'm a bit of a traditionalist so I guess I naturally assumed my wife wouldn't be too bothered about just taking on my name but actually we didn't sit down and think about the merits of both names I'll just let you know some discussions have you had, especially in this day and age now and things aren't a stigma anymore it's an interesting Interesting topic of conversation.

1:06:03Mad to think. And you're right, Crouchy, especially with the megastars. Obama, you know, like that kind of thing. He's got two daughters, right? Chris Obama. Can you imagine that? Yeah, Chris Obama. Peter Obama or Steve Obama. It's mad, isn't it? Mad how it could play out. You could choose one. What would it be? Any last name. Schwarzenegger's up there. It is, isn't it? I just think everyone... It's so immediate. There's not many out there, is there? Also, if you ever met a Schwarzenegger, you'd assume you'd assume they're somehow related yeah this is a this is a topical conversation this would be around around the country now like people in pubs what would you who would you take whose name would you take if you married yeah because it's it's worth it's worth a conversation there'll be people out there about to marry someone who's got a name that they didn't even think that they could take yeah now it might or or they're around the table with their mates and they're like what's your missus surname they might say and they go mate you've got to stay with her just for that name that's a good name anyway I'm not even thinking about Marilyn it might go especially if there's a bit of a kind of flair to it Henri for example do you know what I mean you'd roll up in a pub one day and go I'm only Mr Henri now yeah that's mad yeah until they say table for Henry yeah you'd just be Chris Henry wouldn't you give me that off you would actually be just Chris Henry you like especially when you haven't got the French if you had the French accent you'd go oh Mr Henry but you'd go it's Chris Henry it's true there's actually a problem like if I married someone called Henri I would never be able to pronounce it properly for it to be a good last name for me yeah no everyone puts up it sounds like I'm taking a piss right lass don't forget we've got a Games Gone board coming up I think we're going to do a whole episode on it next time because we've been literally inundated with people that want to get involved in this.

1:08:02Loads of mentions of why they think the game's gone. For instance. I think this is going to be huge, this. Just going to say, I think this has got so, so much legs in it. Oh, there's so much, so much going on. But I, basically, my phone's gone, believe it or not. My phone went today for the first time. I was, something flashed up and it woke me up, right? Came up. And I think it might have been, it was like BBC News or Scott. It was a big news channel because I only have notifications. You turn all your notifications off. So something big happens, right? It kind of beeps. Kind of woke me up. Said Lewis Hamilton's going out with Kim Kardashian.

1:08:42No. So I woke breaking news. My phone's gone. It's gone. The phone's gone. You're right. I mean, couldn't believe it. I said, can you imagine being woke up for that news? I thought there's been a tornado somewhere or something. you are right you know what I mean the breaking news on your phones is taking the piss where have the levels gone where are the levels is what I'm trying to say just keep an eye on that because the phones might go

1:09:13to be fair I didn't expect that though that has piqued my interest Lewis Hamilton and Kim Kardashian you're saying apparently they're they're an item stop it apparently well it came up on my phone breaking news anyway we've got Callum Perry sent one in

1:09:34so bearing in mind this is what Callum said here there's a new you can be the referee in a football game so look if you look here you're looking through the referee's view you can make decisions you can look at VAR decisions you get the opportunity to see if it's a foul or not oh I don't know I kind of like this idea if you were saying on the new FIFA you could choose to be the referee you would give it a go wouldn't you one of the FIFAs like right back in the day but I'm tentatively to say it was mega drive levels you could run around the pitch and the referee would chase you you could do like that for hours I did that yeah sensible soccer was it it was because they were trying to book you they were trying to book you I think it was you could run away from the ref and you could run away which is a real flaw in it it was only if he caught you could he book you so hold on a minute so that's a game for if you want to be a referee.

1:10:28You can spray the line on the grass and everything. You can spray the lines. You've got to check the time. If you go over and all that, you get people complaining. I think people rate you off the game, but I don't know. Potential for games gone. Listen, we're going to do an episode about this next week. Because, you know, we'll talk about how the game is, the state of the game, where we think it's going, whether we're happy with it or not. And, you know, there's a... Sometimes we can... It's easy for us to go, you know are the games gone because we don't play anymore so I think we should take it I think we should go into it with an open mind an open perspective yeah you know are these things actually making the game better are they making it more beneficial okay right well that's the that's all the messages guys obviously we're teeing up for that for next week we've got a great episode there I really love going back over the old kids I love the kids yeah yeah I think we know we're a football heritage we love all that but the old kits were the best.

1:11:24They really were. I do want you to go out walking around here in a kit though and I just want to I want you to see people's reaction to it. I don't think it's as abnormal as you think. Well if I lose our league I'll go out in a football kit. I think you'd get a lot of attention walking around in a kit. Yeah okay. Alright. Maybe we'll test this out on you. Just see. Okay. Yeah. Alright. Alright then. Okay well we'll see you next week guys. This episode is brought to you by aloadopricks.net. We are the experts in selling houses. Chris couldn't sell his house. What did you do, Chris? I couldn't sell my house for love nor money, Crouchy.

1:12:00Three different offers I had, all at the last minute, fell through. I turned around to my wife and said, what can we do to sell this house? Every estate agent is failing us. Then I told her, let's go to aloadopricks.net. But Chris, what did aloadopricks do for you? They were brilliant, Crouchy. They sold my house right away. The sign had barely gone up when a dressed gentleman came along and offered me twice the asking price. Chris, would you use a load of pricks again? I'd use them every time, Crouchy. Go to loadofpricks.net. They will sell your house like no other. Loadofpricks, loadofpricks.net.