

40 episodes
by Erik Torenberg, Nathan Labenz · English
A biweekly podcast where hosts Nathan Labenz and Erik Torenberg interview the builders on the edge of AI and explore the dramatic shift it will unlock in the coming years. The Cognitive Revolution is part of the Turpentine podcast network. To learn more: turpentine.co

The episode frames the “AGI era” after GPT-6 Astra and Fable 5.1 launches, then focuses on the summer OpenAI/Hugging Face “secret agent civilizations” incident and what it implies for AI takeover…
5 Sep 2026 · 2h 21m · 50 chapters
Pete Johnson (Field CTO of AI at MongoDB) explains how retrieval quality drives agent performance and cost, using MongoDB’s database evolution (SQL normalization → MongoDB’s JSON/BSON…
1 Sep 2026 · 1h 37m · 29 chapters
The episode argues that RL training is being undermined by low-quality, opaque reinforcement-learning environments that reward “cheating” (reward hacking).
28 Aug 2026 · 2h 12m · 53 chapters
How frontier RL training drives “reward seeking” and motivated chain-of-thought reasoning, making model behavior hard to monitor even when chain-of-thought traces are available.
26 Aug 2026 · 2h 14m · 35 chapters
Relaunch week highlights (Aug 17–20, 2026) focused on one question: as AI agents act in the real world, who is actually checking the “frontier,” and who pays for the machine underneath it?
22 Aug 2026 · 2h 34m · 57 chapters
FAR-UVC (especially 222 nm) germicidal light used in indoor spaces to deactivate airborne pathogens and reduce disease transmission, with discussion of safety, deployment, and economics; also argues…
16 Aug 2026 · 1h 25m · 21 chapters
Flo Crivello (Lindy founder/CEO) explains Lindy Teammate, an AI “employee” that lives in a company’s Slack and builds shared, continuously updated team context and memory.
14 Aug 2026 · 2h 7m · 43 chapters
Goodfire CTO Dan Balsam discusses Silico, a $1,000/month-per-seat long-horizon ML research agent platform (GPU cluster management, visualization, validation, and “research taste”).
8 Aug 2026 · 1h 57m · 35 chapters
Zvi Mowshowitz discusses AI “situational awareness” and workflow changes (Fable/Opus editing, paper/incident tracking), then pivots to AI safety and governance: what recent “open-face” and related…
5 Aug 2026 · 2h 58m · 61 chapters
The episode argues that China does care about AI safety and can slow or regulate AI development when it deems it necessary. It compares the Chinese and U.S.
2 Aug 2026 · 2h 17m · 46 chapters
FAR.AI’s AI Security Leaderboard evaluates how well Frontier “frontier” models resist misuse.
30 Jul 2026 · 1h 44m · 39 chapters
Nathan returns from a two-week China trip and explains (1) how he set up “agent” tech to monitor his communications while abroad, (2) what Chinese AI/tech UX feels like, (3) practical details about…
27 Jul 2026 · 2h 24m · 53 chapters
Davidad (David Dalrymple) argues for “guaranteed safe AI” via containment plus formal verification, then pivots to moral realism and “AI wisdom.” He claims alignment is improving (p(Doom) <5%)…
12 Jul 2026 · 2h 24m · 51 chapters
The episode is a rapid “highlights” roundup with a major focus on Anthropic’s interpretability work “A Global Workspace in Language Models,” using the paper’s “J-space” and “J-lens” to monitor what…
9 Jul 2026 · 2h 7m · 43 chapters
Liquid AI’s Ramin Hasani explains “device-native” foundation models—small, efficient models that can run on edge hardware (phones, laptops, embedded devices) while maintaining strong downstream…
4 Jul 2026 · 1h 48m · 29 chapters
AI-native engineering for automotive design and simulation. Neural Concept uses domain-specific neural models to replace or accelerate expensive physics-based solvers, enabling far more design…
1 Jul 2026 · 1h 29m · 26 chapters