In short
Pre-Q4/Black Friday preparation for DTC brands on Meta—start in August/September, warm up algorithms and pixels, ramp budgets gradually, and test offers/creative before peak promo windows.
Guests
Jacob (Pilothouse operator; runs Meta/performance strategy for DTC clients; has done Black Friday prep for seven years). Host: Eric (Pilothouse).
Key claims
Don’t wait until Q4 to prep; use low-cost engagement/lead-gen to build warm audiences for retargeting. Gradually increase Meta spend (e.g., 10–15% weekly) instead of a 500% jump on Nov 1. Ensure strong Conversions API (aim for 8–9/10) and request higher ad spend limits/invoice settings to avoid account pauses.
Notable examples
Engagement campaigns using UGC/influencer videos; giveaways (e.g., bundle giveaway, squeeze page, FOMO after end date) and pre-sales signups; offer testing via end-of-summer sales (sitewide 15% vs tiered thresholds); gift-guide creative and countdown urgency; Advantage+ Shopping with broad catalog plus manual product up retargeting; mention of EsqGo brand protection math (15–25% marketplace loss to rogue sellers).
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOReturning to the Discussion
0:30 to 2:25
Hosts reintroduce the episode's focus on Black Friday preparation.
“A lot of efforts that are going to get a lot of eyeballs on your product aren't going to come to fruition immediately.”
Q4 Preparation Insights
2:25 to 4:50
Discussion on the importance of preparing for Q4 sales in advance.
“with my man Jacob to talk a little bit about the prep work that kind of goes into being ready for the Q4 craziness that we are going to embark on this year.”
Effective Lead Generation Strategies
4:50 to 9:18
Exploration of lead generation tactics to enhance sales potential.
“You know, not everything needs to be by now, by now.”
Warming Up Meta's Algorithm
9:18 to 14:00
Strategies for enhancing ad performance and preparing Meta's algorithm before Q4.
“And you'll see a lot of leads coming in that you can then retarget.”
Preparing for Q4 Ad Spend
14:00 to 16:06
Learn how to manage your ad budgets and invoicing for a successful Q4.
“Start launching those lower-cost engagement lead gen campaigns and making sure you're tracking and KP is sending strong signals.”
Preparing for Q4 Ad Spend
16:11 to 17:32
Learn how to manage your ad budgets and invoicing for a successful Q4.
“Is your ROAS actually good or is it just good for you?”
Crafting Effective Offers
17:37 to 21:30
Understand how to craft and test promotional offers ahead of Black Friday.
“All right, well, on to offer architecture and the creative playbooks that we're testing out right now.”
The Psychology of Gift Giving
21:30 to 24:45
Explore the dynamics of gift-giving during the holiday season and how to leverage it in marketing.
“And your next point here was something I was thinking about in the previous as well, is creative as the gift guide.”
Navigating Meta's Advantage Plus Campaigns
24:45 to 28:01
Learn how to effectively structure Advantage Plus Shopping campaigns and manage performance volatility.
“So, yeah, I mean, making sure that your ASC, your Advantage Plus Shopping campaign is structured correctly.”
Navigating Volatility in Meta Advertising
28:01 to 30:22
Learn about the challenges and strategies for managing ad performance volatility on Meta.
“Has it, have things kind of calmed down at all, or is it still pretty, pretty volatile in terms of performance?”
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Best Practices for Campaign Management
30:22 to 31:26
Discover essential tips for optimizing ad campaigns during volatile periods.
“it's a weird metaphor, but it was called Lennying a campaign.”
Closing Thoughts and Resources
31:26 to 32:08
Get insights on reaching out for help and resources available for DTC brands.
“I hope this helped some of our listeners out there who are getting ready for their best Q4 ever.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00Before we jump into today's all killer, no filler episode, a quick word about who makes this show possible. The D2C podcast is brought to you by Pilothouse, the performance agency behind some of the fastest growing D2C brands in the world. Creative, media, and customer journey all under one roof. Performance and brand without the trade-off. Every Friday, we hand the mic to a Pilothouse operator to break down what's actually working in their space right now. Want a team that treats your growth like their own? That's Pilothouse. Head to Pilothouse.co and now on with the show.
0:30Jacob:A lot of efforts that are going to get a lot of eyeballs on your product aren't going to come to fruition immediately. Not everything needs to be by now, by now. It needs to be like there's millions of people out there that we can sell to that aren't even aware of us. Let's make them aware of us now and let's really reap those benefits when they're in a high buy and intent period like Black Friday. Pre-warming Meta's algorithm. How do you warm up that algo? You're going to want to spend a lot more in November, December. You're not going to want to jump from let's increase our budgets 500 % on day one of November.
1:06Jacob:You're going to want to gradually ramp up towards that.
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2:39How are you doing?
2:40Jacob:Yeah, thanks for having me. I'm doing good here. How are you? Always good. I was just saying, just got back from this awesome festival, top secret festival on the island here. Look forward to doing that again next year. I got vacation coming up next week before the Q4 craziness kicks in. So what are the main things? I know we've talked a lot over the years. This is our seventh Black Friday together, which is what I know you were even doing it probably before then a little bit. But what are the things that you're thinking about in terms of meta mainly, I guess, that you're thinking about right now to make sure that we're ready to hit Q4 with our utmost?
3:17Jacob:Good question. It's really starting with the mindset of like, you don't want to be running through roadblocks and doing the prep during Q4, right? You want all your focus on maximizing value and maximizing purchases, maximizing revenue growth. So really it does come back to September, August, September, leaking a bit into October. And that's when all the prep should be doing, should be getting done, making sure all your cylinders are firing, making sure your lists are warm, making sure you've tested offers and we'll get a bit more into the weeds. But like, you know, as an intro, it's it's that.
3:56Jacob:And a lot of people are getting in through their summer sprints right now. And then all of a sudden it's like, oh, crap, you know, it's already end of October. No, we got to prep our Halloween sale. Oh, no, now it's Black Friday and we haven't we haven't done what we need to do. And you're definitely not maximizing your value if you're not starting to get ahead of that stuff. So that's kind of what we're going to talk about. And I know I feel like we've done a similar podcast kind of every year at this time, but there's some new stuff, you know, popping up every year, things you can really do with your brand to make sure that you really maximize Q4 and see that year over year growth that you need.
4:32So we're covering a couple of key topics. You have it here is pre-Q4 warmup and signal strategy, and then offer architecture and creative playbooks, which I think covers quite a lot. And this pre-Q4 warmup is what we used to call, to some degree, part of it is stalking the pond, as we say. I don't know if we still like using phishing metaphors, but is that still accurate?
4:53Jacob:For sure. That's still a big part of it. It's a great time to potentially launch some lower cost lead gen campaigns, engagement campaigns, pushing out a lot of efforts that are going to get a lot of eyeballs on your product that maybe aren't going to come to fruition immediately. You know, not everything needs to be by now, by now. It needs to be like, you know, there's millions of people out there that we can sell to that aren't even aware of us. Let's make them aware of us now on top of everything we're already doing. And let's really reap those benefits when they're in a high buying intent period like Black Friday.
5:31Jacob:You know, let's get on meta and let's push out a low cost lead gen campaign, maybe spends 5 % of our total ad budget. let's change the uh the optimization event on that campaign to engagement rather than purchase so that meta gets more eyeballs on it for a better cost sure we're going to get a lot of window shoppers um but because it's you know five percent of our budget it's not going to eat away at all the margins we currently have maybe it's even less than five percent and it's just going to cut like i said really really uh come to fruition in in q4 when now we have them on our our pixel we have them on our website we can retarget them directly with our messaging and we don't need to find them and sell to them in q4 we just need to sell to them right just a quick one before we get back into it i want to know how deep are you planning to discount this q4 most brands are guessing so we're building a benchmark report called beyond the discount if you run a d2c brand we want your data the survey takes five minutes and your answers stay confident confidential.
6:37Every brand operator who completes it is entered to win a$1 ,000 gift card. We're expecting a few hundred entries, so these are probably the best odds at a grand you'll ever see. The link to the report is in the show notes. It closes August 23rd, and we award the prize August 24th. All right, back to the show. What are the most effective lead generation strategies for e-commerce brands? Are we talking about just giving discounts that people may come back and news later? Are we actually talking about creating lead magnets or what's the best way to lead generate this time of year for fruits that will bear in Q4?
7:12Jacob:Yeah, it's a good question. There's kind of the two pronged approach where one is engagement and you don't even need a lead gen campaign. You're just telling Meta to like get these ads. You know, you might want to use like some of your top UGC ads, some of your top videos, or maybe some of your top influencer partnerships and just put them into engagement campaigns where you're getting your ads in front of thousands of people for maybe a couple dollars, right? And people are just viewing those. Even if they're viewing that ad, they get added to your view audience on Meta. So you can actually retarget them based on the views as well.
7:48Jacob:In terms of getting more of that first-party data on lead gen, like you said, there's a few options there. There's things like pre-sales you could potentially do if you have new products coming out. Sign up now to ensure you get the best price when this product releases. Sign up now to ensure you get stock. We allocate stock to you because it's going to sell out fast. Those kind of type of campaigns. There's also things like giveaways that we see a lot of success with. Find a product that you can give away or maybe you have a partnership with other brands. Just as an example, if you're a beer company and you have a partnership with a beef jerky brand, figure out a way that you can do a big giveaway of a bundle of that stuff.
8:35Jacob:You're going to get tons of people that sign up for that giveaway that aren't going to purchase your products right away, but now you have their email, you have their first-party data, and you're going to be able to hit them into your email engine, sending them those drip emails. You're going to be able to upload them as an audience on meta. So giveaways are a really good one. And all it really requires is figuring out, hey, what are we giving away? Okay, it's$750 of stuff. That's really nothing, right? There's no cost behind that. And then you just have this squeeze page that explains the giveaway, shows images of what it is.
9:11Jacob:And then you're just launching a few ads around that and optimizing to lead gen. And make sure your leads fire when they sign up on the site. And you'll see a lot of leads coming in that you can then retarget. And once the giveaway ends, hey, we're going to have this giveaway end on October 15th. You know, you want to do it before Black Friday. Everyone that signed up that didn't win, there's a bit of FOMO there. And a lot of the time they're going to come purchase anyways. And that's typically when that giveaway ad spend, you know, breaks even and gets into the green. once that giveaway is done.
9:45Jacob:And then it's just all profit from there when you're just dripping them after that. So is there any change that you have to make to your engagement campaigns in light of the sort of shrinking conversion window or cookie window that we have with meta audiences? Like to keep them engaged on the pixel, do they need to continually engage? Or if you engage them now, will you be able to recall them in November? Yeah, you can still recall them. For engagement audiences specifically, it's like, you know, it's up to 180 days that they stay within your ecosystem. That is more related to like purchase attribution and how long those like events are attributed to your campaigns.
10:29Jacob:But in the sense of them building as an audience, that's actually not an issue. And it's actually kind of gone the opposite way where with the purchasers now, you can actually build a list. I think it's like 720 days. so you can actually retarget people at a longer outlook. I think we talked about it in a previous podcast, actually. But no big issues there. If you're getting people engaged now, you'll be able to retarget them come Q4. You just need to make sure your conversions API and everything is set up correctly and feeding those server-side events back to your account. All right, next topic, pre-warming Meta's algorithm.
11:11them. How do you warm up that algo? Yeah, I mean, so you're going to want to spend a lot more in
11:19Jacob:November, December, you're not going to want to jump from, you know, let's increase our budgets 500 % on day one in November, you're going to want to gradually ramp up towards that. So recommended like start increasing your spend, you know, around two months early, which we're starting to get towards now, right? September, October, start finding your wins, start building that spend up where you can, where you do have margins. And just know that, you know, if you're seeing slightly less, less of a profit margin in the short term, building that spend is still going to pay dividends in the Q3, Q4, you know, sprint.
11:57Jacob:So you want to warm that up, you want to be, you know, increasing 10, 15%, you know, every week or so, and just start to work on a timeline for yourself that make sense based on your your results and budgets um but that's that's kind of one part so gradually bump up and then when you're you know in november you can go more aggressive versus just all at once and then um you can do a few things like you know build value-based lookalikes um you know we're not doing as much of this with andromeda it is a lot more broad targeting but we still do see success and you know go in export your top 500 purchasers based on who has spent the most at your company at your brand who has bought the most product even over the career of your brand export them upload them as an audience and then build look-alike audiences based on those people so tell meta hey i want one percent of the u.s population most closely related to these people start to hit them across the board.
12:58Jacob:And that's just like, it is warming up your algorithm, your pixel to find those types of people in congruency to you increasing your spend and you're kind of attacking it from both sides there. Making sure your conversions API, like I just said, is feeding server side signals correctly. If you're going to your events manager and you see weak conversions API scores, like a five out of 10, six out of 10. Okay, why is that? Typically, it's because you're not sending enough parameters back. And so you can go in and you can make sure you're sending, you know, click IDs, event IDs, name, email, phone number, everything you can, you want to send as much as possible back, you know, while still staying within ruling.
13:45Jacob:So that's sort of the other side. So it's really those three things, you know, gradually getting spend up where you can. Think about that now, two months ahead of Black Friday and Christmas. Start building value-based audiences to kind of lead your pixel towards them. Start launching those lower-cost engagement lead gen campaigns and making sure you're tracking and KP is sending strong signals. You typically want to see like an 8 or 9 score at least out of 10 on Cappy. And then finally, also just make sure that your budgets are ready to roll. Make sure that you're not going to get capped with what you do want to spend in Q4, even if you're not spending it now.
14:24So you've got to proactively request ad spend limits.
14:27Jacob:Yeah, good point. It's a really good time. Make sure you go into your payment settings in Meta. Check if you do have an ad account spending limit. A lot of brands have also been shifted over to monthly invoicing by Meta. So make sure you don't have this massive outstanding balance that, you know, manually needs to get paid because sometimes that can actually cause your account to get paused until the payments happen. We've seen that where it's just like you have to manually pay a monthly invoice because it's a new thing where they're not just, you know, automatically charging your credit card like they used to.
15:02Jacob:And if you don't do that or forget or whatever, all of a sudden Meta flags the account, pauses it until it's resolved. And that could be crucial during a Q4 push. So make sure your ad spend limit is good. Make sure it's way higher than you want to spend just in case you see a ton of success and really want to push up. And yeah, make sure you're checking on your invoicing and everything as well. Which they have now fully switched over to. I see it was April 1st that they sort of really began the full phase out of credit card payments. Those are all fully phased out now. Everything is on invoice?
15:34Jacob:Yeah, I think for the most part, pretty much everything is monthly invoicing now. A lot of people have the credit lines set up as well, but it's out of just the daily credit card charges that brands would see. And a lot did prefer. So there's been a few pushbacks from certain brands and things like that, just based on how their company operates. But yeah, Meta's kind of forced that switch through. This episode is brought to you by Triple Whale, the AI operating system for e-commerce. Here's a question worth sitting with. Is your ROAS actually good or is it just good for you? You know your ROAS, you know your CPA, your AOV, but how do those actually stack up against brands you're competing with?
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17:37All right, well, on to offer architecture and the creative playbooks that we're testing out right now. We're actually working on a big report called Beyond the Discount, which is funny because I think probably a lot of the results that we'll get from that are like, no, we're still doing a lot of discounts, especially this year, I think when people are feeling the financial squeeze. So I feel like maybe brands may be squeezing themselves in order to kind of meet them where they're at. But what are your thoughts on how to craft your offer or how to, how to be testing your offer ahead of time to make sure that, you know, it's, it's going to be the most effective it can.
18:13Yeah.
18:14Jacob:I mean, it's kind of interesting because a year and a bit ago, like the tariff situation was putting a lot of like pressures on a lot of brands to, Hey, we actually can't offer, you know, anything now, like our margins are so thin for the most part, it's, you know, time has passed and like brands have adjusted as needed, right. To survive. And that has come to a bit more of a, from what we've seen, at least like more brands in a better spot again on that side, whether they found new providers or adjusted their ingredients or whatever it might be. Right. So So we are finding a lot of brands are a lot more free to offer something now again, which is great to see.
18:53Jacob:And yeah, I think like whether that's you adjusting pricing so you can have offers or whatever it might be, you're going to want offers in Q4. If you're just running a buyer stuff, when all your competitors are offering 15, 20 % off, you're probably going to struggle a bit during Black Friday. And you can get creative with these offers 100%. So it's like now is a great time to test these playbooks. You know, what are the offer structures working best for us and our brand and our products and our audiences? You know, let's run them as a end of summer sale. Let's do a little split test. Let's, you know, for two weeks do a site-wide percentage discount, 15 % off all products site-wide.
19:38Jacob:Let's look at how the math is going to back out on that. you know, our investment and our output and our costs. And then let's do a tiered spend threshold where, yeah, maybe you're getting$20 off if you spend a hundred or more. And, you know, theoretically all offers are going to help versus just your evergreen, evergreen like push. But we do find that like site-wide just works a lot better for certain products maybe that have a ton of variants, right? You have a hundred different products. It's really hard to, you know, pick and choose certain collections to give a sitewide discount. Or if it's a product that, you know, you have a hundred of them, but people might want 10 of them.
20:21Jacob:That's a great offer because now they can just go freely pick and choose whatever they want. There's no roadblock there and they're still getting the offer. But then, you know, on the flip side, there's brands that might make sense where it's like our margins just don't make sense on a$50 purchase or it's really tough. We need to incentivize like higher deals and we don't want to offer on, you know, every product because half of our products sell themselves. Everyone knows about them. You know, an offer probably isn't going to make a difference. So let's do a, you know, tiered offer on this new collection that we just launched.
20:57Jacob:And it really does depend on, you know, what is your North Star this year. But I guess the point I'm trying to say is like, you should be testing those now versus just, here's our Q4 offer that we're just going to roll with because we think it'll do good. You need to add reasoning behind why you're doing that. And, you know, August, September is a great time to test those offers at a smaller, smaller percentages. You don't need to go give 40 % off. You could do a 5 % off or 10 % off. Just prove out the concepts. Yeah. Love that. And your next point here was something I was thinking about in the previous as well, is creative as the gift guide.
21:36It's a crafting gift for him or her visual hooks, which just sort of can plant the idea for when it does come time for holiday shopping that, you know, these socks are going to be the perfect gift for your whole family or whatever. Just kind of planting that idea of your product as a gift for the holiday season seems like a great, great angle.
21:54Jacob:For sure. Yeah. And it's a good time to be doing that now. Like you said, a lot of people do do their shopping even earlier. And it can actually kind of circle back to the engagement campaigns and like, you know, gift guides, you know, the perfect gift for your wife, the perfect gift for your husband. Those are actually good ads to run in like a engagement campaign as well, or even like a lead gen, you know, sign up now to be notified of offers, things like that. But just in general, bringing it in the front, even in your purchase intent campaigns, you know, with visual hooks, unboxing reels, people talking about how it's the best gift ever while unboxing it and showing that, you know, process is very real and people are going to relate to that.
22:42Jacob:And Andromeda is going to start to take those signals as it does. And it's going to start to optimize those specific ads to people that are looking for gifts. And obviously in Q4, that's everyone. So to get ahead of that now and start getting those people onto your pixel is essential. So yeah, creative as a gift guide. Think about that. And then as you get closer to these dates, these, you know, shipping cutoff dates, you need to order by, you know, December 10th to get it for Christmas. Have like some countdown, you know, urgency assets added in there, whether that's in the ads or on the page.
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23:21Jacob:Maybe there's an actual countdown timer to the shipping cutoff. Make sure you're following all the rules there and it's not just smoke and mirrors. But you do want to add that urgency the closer and closer you get to these days. And that'll convert this colder traffic a lot faster, for sure. All this cold traffic you've been building up through the engagement campaigns and all the other stuff. I wonder what percentage of gifts bought during the holiday season, specifically closer to Christmas, are gifts versus purchase for oneself. I bet it's probably a pretty reasonable split. I'm sure a lot of people are buying for themselves, but I'm sure a really solid chunk are thinking about the season as a gift-giving session.
24:03Jacob:Yeah. I mean, for Black Friday, I'd say that's a time when tons of people are buying gifts because you want to get the gifts on deals, right? And that's a good timeline where, okay, Christmas is a month away. Let's get the gifts now. There's an awesome Black Friday sale. But to your other point, I would wager it's more than half buying for themselves still. But even that gift-giving language is still going to convert those people. Like, sure, it's the perfect gift, but I also want it. Treat yourself. Yeah, treat yourself. As they used to say. You're not sort of like limiting yourself to those people with gift-giving angles.
24:41Jacob:they're still going to buy for themselves if they think it's a good fit. And then what's your last point here about Advantage Plus Shopping campaigns versus manual retargeting? So, yeah, I mean, making sure that your ASC, your Advantage Plus Shopping campaign is structured correctly. You do want to give meta a lot of freedom to dial into whoever it thinks and to make sure it is showing your full product catalog. So it's going to custom tweak which products it's showing to which people, especially important. if you have a large catalog, which, you know, all the listeners might not have. Some of them might just have like a hero product or two, but you want to make sure that's structured where you have that broad one, but then you also have some bottom of funnel retargeting, like product up where you have ad sets or campaigns for specific collections with more of a manual catalog setup that you can like really, really lean into.
25:34Jacob:And if you have that mix, you know, one, you don't have so much control over, but the other you do, you can just, you have more, uh, more triggers to pull on what's working and what's not during those, those peak promo windows and catalogs just get stronger and stronger as Q4 hits. Cause people don't, a lot of the time they do just want to see products quick, right? Scroll, scroll through them. You go on Amazon's homepage and essentially what that's what it is. It's just a catalog of all these different products. There's no UGC videos and things on Amazon's homepage, Right. So you, you kind of want to replicate that experience.
26:11Jacob:If your catalogs are hitting your, your warm audience, that's, that's a big win versus like hitting your warm audience with more discovery ads, which they don't need. They already know about your product because you've done the engagement campaigns. Um, they just want to see your selection and the sales, right? As the season rolls on with catalog ads, do you ever, can you tweak catalog ads to be like, you know perfect for him like have have like a caption on the catalog or you or do you just kind of keep the catalog ads the same throughout the year yeah so the ASC stays fairly consistent throughout the year bench plus but you do get that control you can add um add copy first of all so that will show right above the catalog but you usually want that to be very hard-hitting and and not too long and just like you know amazing products for this than this on sale today but um There's also these catalog frames that you can add in where you'll like each product will have a little frame around it and you might want like mistletoe or like whatever, like Christmas themed frames.
27:15Jacob:And within those frames, you could say like the perfect gift or whatever you want. So you do get a little bit of control on that side. You can build catalog frames right in meta now, or you can kind of upload them as like PNG files, custom ones. And we 100 % are testing different frames throughout the year based on seasonality and everything, as well as that messaging. Just finally, we did a podcast last week with Aves and Abby and Taylor, and we talked about the platform volatility that Meta has experienced. I think it was a big news on Twitter over the past few weeks. A lot of people chiming in about it being a really challenging time on the platform.
27:56I'm curious if you're, you know, heading into Q4 here, are you, are you seeing the same thing? Has it, have things kind of calmed down at all, or is it still pretty, pretty volatile in terms of performance?
28:05Jacob:It's always kind of volatile, but it has, uh, this past year has been crazy. I think a lot of it is due to meta trying to move fast through like just AI and like releasing all these tools and, you know, Andromeda shifts and like basically revamping their algorithm every week, it feels like. So one week you might see really strong performance, the next you don't. And it's because your ads have now, for some reason, tapped into a whole new audience and you didn't have control over that. And it's, you know, meta doesn't really give you insight into what's going on in the back end. So I think a lot of algorithmic AI shifts, signal and tracking gaps with just all the browser restrictions and making sure CAP is set up.
28:48you know and then people what happens is like people try to fix that and alleviate it by going
28:55Jacob:in and making human interventions right oh we need to edit our budgets we need to fix our targeting because things suck this week and that just adds to the volatility and you kind of do need to do that because you can't just ride the wave if it's you know crashing but uh they they do bundle up And I would say the last year has been pretty crazy. And, you know, luckily we do have a big portfolio of clients where we can identify some of these trends a bit deeper and as well as, you know, listening, social listening and checking out what's going on in the market. But trying to stay ahead of those is pretty crazy.
29:32Jacob:Another side that helps with it is our agency advantage relationship. Like we have a strategic partner at Meta. So we actually have like office hours with Meta. and things like that, where they try to give us heads up on some of these things, but it's not everything. And the volatility is definitely real, you know, week to week. And it's really just about trying to zoom out. I always say this, like try to zoom out and look at the week to week or month to month, not the day to day. Because, you know, one day is going to suck and one day is going to be amazing. It's really about those longer timelines and benchmarking, you know, each number you have.
30:11Jacob:and starting to identify those trends. And if you do get too proactive with the changes that you make, you can make things quite a bit worse. I remember back in my media buying days, we used to call it, it's a weird metaphor, but it was called Lennying a campaign. Because if you've ever read or seen the movie Of Mice and Men, it's about the character Lenny and he gets a box full of bunnies and he's like, I love these bunnies and I just want to hug them and pat them. He overpats them and kills all the bunnies. You can do that if you handle your campaigns. if you get too proactive with changes on your campaigns.
30:44Jacob:For sure. Yeah, it's a fine balance. And I think it's definitely like, there's some things you can do, like a consolidated structure helps. So all of a sudden you don't have a hundred different signals to figure out why it's not working. You have three or four. You know, try to avoid making those edits during the learning phase as best you can. Meta is going to be volatile on a new launch, but after a week or two, it should settle. Make sure your data signals are super strong. Your CAPI scores are really high. And like I said, just evaluate multi-day trends, not day-to-day trends. That's really the most important point, I would say.
31:24Jacob:The key there. Yeah. Nice. Well, thank you. I hope this helped some of our listeners out there who are getting ready for their best Q4 ever. And as always, if you want to talk to Jacob or us directly, just send us an email, Jacob at pilothouse.co, Eric at pilothouse.co or direct-to-consumer.co. And we'll set you up with an account, audit, or just chat with us about what you need this year to crush it. As always, it's going to be our biggest and best Q4 ever. Thanks for coming on to talk about it today, Jacob. Oh, of course. Yeah. Thanks for having me, Eric, and enjoy the week off.
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Every year around this time, Eric and Jacob record some version of this episode. This is their seventh Black Friday together, and the through-line hasn't changed: brands sprint through summer, look up at the end of October, and realize the Halloween sale and Black Friday are on top of them with none of the groundwork done.
If you run meaningful spend on Meta, this is the checklist to work through before the CPM doubling kicks in.
What you get:
- Stocking the pond. Low-cost lead gen and engagement campaigns at 5% of budget (or less), optimized to engagement instead of purchase, so Meta buys you cheap eyeballs now that become warm retargeting audiences in November.
- The giveaway playbook, start to finish: partner bundle (the beer brand and the beef jerky brand), a $750 prize, a squeeze page, leads firing on signup, and an October 15 end date. The FOMO purchases from non-winners are typically what push the giveaway spend into the green before the dripping even starts.
- The audience-window answer: engagement audiences hold up to 180 days, purchaser lists now build to roughly 720. Engage someone in August and you can still recall them for Black Friday.
- Warming the algorithm: start ramping spend two months out, 10 to 15% a week, instead of a 500% budget jump on November 1.
- Value-based lookalikes in the Andromeda era. Export your top 500 purchasers by lifetime spend, upload, build the 1% lookalike. Less central than it used to be, still working.
- The CAPI audit: if your events manager shows a 5 or 6 out of 10, you're not sending enough parameters back. Click IDs, event IDs, name, email, phone. Target an 8 or 9.
- The invoicing trap. Meta has moved brands to monthly invoicing, and an unpaid invoice can pause your account until it's resolved. Check your payment settings and your spend limit now, and set the limit way above what you plan to spend.
- Offer architecture: why tariff-squeezed brands can finally offer again, sitewide vs. tiered thresholds, which catalog shapes suit which structure, and why you test at 5 or 10% off in an end-of-summer sale instead of guessing at 40 in November.
- Creative as the gift guide: "perfect gift for your wife" hooks, unboxing reels, catalog frames with Christmas theming, and countdown urgency tied to real shipping cutoffs. No smoke and mirrors.
- ASC structure: one broad Advantage Plus campaign with the full catalog, plus manual bottom-funnel catalog campaigns per collection so you have levers to pull during peak windows.
- And Lennying a campaign. Eric's Of Mice and Men metaphor for over-managing an account to death, plus Jacob on why human interventions during volatile weeks add to the volatility.
Who this is for: media buyers, retention leads, and founders who want their November spend converting instead of prospecting.
What to steal: the 5% engagement budget, the giveaway structure with a pre-BFCM end date, the CAPI parameter audit, and the payment-settings check you should do today.
Timestamps:
00:00 Pre-Warming Your Q4 Audience
05:00 Building Leads Before Black Friday
11:00 How to Warm Up Meta’s Algorithm
18:00 Testing Your Q4 Offers Early
28:00 Managing Meta Performance Volatility
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