The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time remake is the most anticipated game of 2026 (that isn’t called Grand Theft Auto)

0:00This week we reveal what will be the biggest video game still to come in 2026 that are not called Grand Theft Auto 6.

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1:13He is currently communications manager at Digital Bandidos, and he's also a veteran business journalist and author it's of course james bachelor hello james how are you i'm good i was starting to think you'd forgotten me i know you you've had some much much more important and much much better guests on but it's been a while and so i was like is he gonna ask me again yeah you know what it's because i need to sort of portion you out i'm still trying to coax you back that's what it is i'm trying to convince you um you're you're waiting for me to beg for it i see yeah How are things going at Digital Banditos?

1:47You've got a big game, you've got a demo coming out this week or something? Yeah, so we've got a big game coming up at the end of the year called Curse of Rest Haven. Honestly, it's such a challenge to try and condense this into one genre. It is a single-player narrative roguelite with deck building mechanics, trading mechanics, a Majora's Mask style time loop. It's hard to kind of get across. That's your job, your job is to get it across. Which is my job, exactly. Exactly. I have to like draft this out and like really own it down rather than just off the cuff say this. No, honestly, it's absolutely incredible game.

2:25It's got this really cool like hand drawn style. But yeah, I'm trying not to make this too much of a plug. The first ever demo is coming out this Friday as part of the 6.1 Indie Demo Days event. And which is we're looking forward to it's one of those games where, yes, it's hard to explain. but as soon as you play it you get it and you hopefully love it so uh yeah we're doing okay um froggy hex snow is still uh doing nicely as well so that's another one that we launched earlier this year and um we're just cracking on we're kind of behind the scenes we're finding ways to kind of help other developers even if we're not directly the publisher we're kind of working with them um on helping bring their games to market so yeah we're just we're doing what we can for the indie space.

3:05Yeah, well, it needs it. Well, the whole industry does. The whole bloody industry needs it, absolutely. We've had a bit of fun, James, since you were last on. George Corner's on the team now. Lovely George. I miss George. Who, of course, was the sales leader on games.biz. He didn't leave with us, but we managed to, he's come across later. We actually just hit a million views on YouTube, on the game for his show. Congratulations. That's fantastic. I am. I. When we did the YouTube thing, I was like, well, we'll see. Like, you know, we've all my experience on GI. I wasn't expecting much. And it's not, don't be wrong, most of the audience is on Substack.

3:45You have a load on Apple Music and Spotify as well. And of course, we're not really about numbers. You know, we're all about reach and influence and all that kind of stuff. But it is nice. I am surprised and pleasantly surprised that YouTube's done all right. We're not about the numbers, but the numbers do help. They do help. You do. We are about audience. Yeah. Do you remember Simon Maxwell, who was the publisher and the boss of Gamer Network? Yeah. And he, see, when I joined Games.Lot Biz, he gave me like a form to fill in about traffic numbers and projections. And I was like, well, business title, that's not, it's not what we're about.

4:13We're not about traffic. And then he would challenge me on that. And he goes, well, we do need traffic and we need audience. It's not. Yeah. Because we used to say it all the time to anyone that joined us, sure, that mobile piece may not do as well as that Xbox piece, but that mobile piece is probably speaking to a very specific group of people that are the most relevant whereas that console pc is being picked up by all sorts which is the reason why the numbers are higher so um it's still the same still the same conversations we're having around uh but it is exciting when we get big numbers it does make us feel uh good that is just the joy of b2b isn't it it's reaching the right people not the most people yeah so this week we did a piece with runescape or last week did a piece with runescape and um it did exceptionally well because that game is a lot bigger older school runescape anyways a lot bigger than i think people realize it's massive and um we do a piece last year on runescape it's actually the most read and watched and viewed episode of the game business show on runescape and this year's one runescape isn't as big as last year's one yet but it's not far off right and so i'm a bit like well what's that about well it's because it's ended up on a runescape subreddit and it's and it's also a good industry story as well but it's it's got that's why it's done those numbers the previous week i did one with netflix on unhinged and the numbers were a lot lower but i got it got picked up by the bbc and the bbc did a whole thing on unhinged because they'd read it the episode of the game business show and that matters those stories matter they're really hard to get across in a linkedin post so i go with the numbers but yeah but it's uh anyway being distracted james so we've decided this week to look at the biggest games still to come this year that's not called grand theft auto 6 now we have a bunch of charts in the newsletter um the data covers games coming out in august to the end of the year so if you're wondering why halo isn't in this list that's because that's out this week sports games are also not in this sports game didn't make the list anyway but obviously nba and madden the asports fc will be top of the charts it's just the way those things happen but we're going to leave them aside because they always they're always there now because we're the game business we're using data to tell us what those games are we have trailer views video views and article count from level up analytics we have wish list data from steam that's kindly supplied to us by simon carlis and the folks at game discover and ign has also shared with us their wish list chart too so that's our old friends that old that's our pair and the folks ign so we have lots of data points to go through and i think it's important we use data for this because james if you and i were just selecting these games let's be honest it's just going to be number one legend of zelda ocarina of time remake absolutely so anyway james kick us off what is the most anticipated game this year that isn't Wow, I've taught a six I reckon it'd be Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time Do you have the numbers there?

6:54Do you have it in front of you? I do have the numbers, yeah So it is genuinely top of two of the four charts I'm looking at, I haven't got the IGN wishlist one unfortunately, so that's all you Top trailers, 152 million views, and that's a good nearly 30 million ahead of the second, which is Marvel's Wolverine Media coverage 17 ,300 articles although I imagine a fair number of a fair proportion that will be where was the rest of it because it was it was such a tease of a reveal but um I mean that's significantly above um the blood of dawn walker which is the second most covered game at 5400 articles and it's third place in video views so it's kind of third behind modern warfare 4 called the duty obviously is um The most accumulated video views at 694 million.

7:42There's down to 553 million for Marvel's Wolverine. And then Zelda's there at 475 million at number three. But, you know, number one in two of the charts, number three in the other chart. And obviously not on Steam wishlist because it's not a Steam title. Yeah. There's a lot of anticipation for this one. Yeah. IGN, hopefully, if you scroll across, it might be there for you, James. But it is actually number three in the IGN way. Yeah. it's actually number three in the igm wishlist chart as well i think the video views chart is slightly lower because there isn't that much to talk about because it was a very small teaser trailers these obviously content creator views and all those sort of stuff jokes aside zelda is the biggest game i'm interested in this one okay because germs you know this but the people that are listening at home they may not know this there are two eras of zelda there's everything before breath of the world and there's everything after breath of the world there's basically two types of game yeah and the the zelda game that was before breath of the wild it's a little bit more linear it's still open worldish but you you go in you go from dungeon to dungeon to dungeon in a select order and you beat the boss at the end those games have been moderately popular they obviously cult favorites a huge fan favorites but the best-selling one of those was twilight princess that did just shy of nine million the original ocarina of time did 7.6 million but most zelda games the exception of those two do under 5 million copies right that was pre-breath of the world then breath of the world happened and that game has done 33.8 million on nintendo switch alone it also came out on wii so it's probably on 35 million now tears of the kingdom which was the sequel to breath of the world 22.56 million so a completely different layer here different scope so zelda's either sort of a relatively small niche game and then you've got these these mega games ocarina of time is obviously in the older style we're assuming we know nothing about this remake we're assuming it's going to be a traditional nintendo remake it looks prettier it runs a bit smoother but it's it's it's the same game now nintendo has released some zelda games in between breath of the world and now that are in the oldish style one of them's a remake which is link's awakening that was a remake of the game boy game it is a 2d zelda game that did six and a half million units they did skyward sword hd which is a remaster of the wii game that did 4.15 million units as of december 2022 and echoes of wisdom which is the only original game they've done which stars zelda and it's a little different that's 4.1 million units those numbers are more in line with traditional zelda numbers and not in line with the new breath of the world era so my brain is going oh ocarina of time is probably going to be around that level maybe a bit higher because Ocarina of Time it's probably not going to be a sort of Breath of the Wild Tears at the Kingdom level.

10:24Having said that, Link's Awakening, as I said, was a 2D Zelda game. Echoes of Wisdom, also a 2D Zelda game, but also I don't think resonated very well even though I thought it was pretty good. Skyward Sword HD, and I know you and I share this with you, James, it's probably the worst of the 3D Zelda games. So, I don't know, could Ocarina of Time be different? Could we be looking at a pretty big, big moment for this? And those are trailer numbers for what is a very small teaser was, I'd love to have heard it in person. I'd love to have been in the room when Ocarina of Time got announced. The roar would have been, even though it had been leaked before.

10:57Yeah. Oh, yeah. The screaming in the old earth, yeah, Los Angeles theatre would have been huge. I'm really intrigued to see how this one does because kind of echoing what you've said, like we've got an entire generation of people who have been raised up on the Breath of the Wild, tier of the kingdom massive huge open world systems driven zelda yeah sandboxy yeah yeah sandboxy i'm still getting like viral videos of the stuff that people have made in tears of the kingdom but also like tricks and exploits people who find the breath of the wild and ocarina of time is not that no and as you said like almost almost certainly and i'm basing this largely on the starfox remake that came out a month ago this is almost certainly going to be a one-to-one remake They might have like polished certain areas and expanded certain things, but it won't be like a, you know, redesigned game It will be one-to-one if you've played this back in the 90s You will know exactly where you are going in this one But I think the difference is like with we've already had Link to Awakening as you say we had Skyward the hype around those games The prestige and the reputation of those games isn't on the level of Ocarina of Time This is held as one of the greatest games of all time.

12:06I think isn't it still like the highest rated game on Metacritic ever? all like nine reviews that are on there for a time okay yeah but yeah its tagline was the greatest game of all time right exactly yeah and that the reputation it has yeah so the the switch generation that have been raised on like breath of the world and tears will be intrigued by this and they'll be more aware of this i'd argue than they are of like linked awakening echoes of wisdom skyward sword and i'm intrigued to see how they'll find it because i think they'll they'll buy it on the hype and i'm intrigued to see what the reception is and you know how word of mouth might help you know help its long tail i don't know a lot of it comes down to how nintendo see it because i've seen this before when nintendo take a game like luigi's mansion and go right we're gonna make this big and they put all their guns behind it it's a good game right they know they've got a good game and they put all their weight behind it and it does those big numbers is ocarina of time are they gonna go yeah it's a remake or put it out like we did super mario rpg or or stuff like that or are they gonna really talk try and go let's try and push this quite hard amongst those breath of the world users as well as those classic zelda fans there's a zelda movie obviously next year we don't know you have to second guess them a little bit there isn't that much from nintendo this year it's interesting if you look at the go back to the chart the only other game in this list that's done really well specifically in the top traders list is nintendo switch sports resort which that surprises me by the way not because i'm looking forward to that i love that i just don't think i don't expect a sort of casual sports game to make it into these charts no but that one has I think it's a lot got shared a lot on social media by the looks of it I'm really surprised to see that up so high like I don't get me wrong it looked great I wasn't interested in Nintendo Switch Sports this one weirdly does appeal to me I think this is scratching the nostalgia it's for like that Wii era but I have to wonder how much of like the attention around this and the the view count is getting how much of that is people taking the mick out of the thumb wrestling demo yeah it might be a bit of that that was the big meme or one of the big means of like the summer game fest period.

14:05So this data is still shared with me from Level Up and Level Up has linked me to a tweet alone that got 2 million views for this game. So that's interesting. But that's obviously a lot more of a mainstream play. The other games that they've got is the Dustbloods. The Dustbloods doesn't make any... Well, it actually makes the media coverage chart right down at the bottom, like number 15. It doesn't make the trailer charts. It had 7.5 million trailers. The Dustbloods is obviously the From Software game. It's a PvP-V-E game. I think that's a really big audience mismatch there. I know they're about to enter some sort of playtest scenario with that game.

14:42From Software games are associated with PlayStation. I know that if you go back to GameCube era, there was Lost Kingdoms and stuff. But Nintendo sometimes sign these games to try and bring those players into their ecosystem. They did that with Bayonetta, famously. and if this game was the sequel to um bloodborne or a game in that vein this could bring those fans over because it's a multiplayer pvp thing or pve thing i'm a little doubtful about it i think it's always mismatch anyway and i'm not entirely sure it'll even appeal to from software fans in the way that you might expect it to so um it's not made any of the lists and but that's the other game that nintendo had this year i mean despite the love of like you know mario carton splatoon and things like that.

15:24Like Switch has never been, and Nintendo in general, have never been platforms known for online multiplayer experiences. Like that's not the go-to. No. My memory isn't, the Dustblood's like, it's related to Bloodborne. It certainly looks like it. It's something like it's set in the world, but they can't name it Bloodborne 2 because of reasons or something to that effect. That was my understanding of it. But yeah, it's weird. Like, you know, it's a title that's there to appeal to a very specific audience. but that very specific audience has already got you know other platforms yeah plenty of things to play from software is a major pull and i'm sure it'll do all right i'm just not expecting much from it and i don't think the internet will be expecting much from it the other game is fire emblem which is out in september that game is not on any of these lists which doesn't surprise me because it's a niche ish game but if you go back to the the last major final game there was one in between but the last big one was fighting three houses which was a which is a moderate hit and And it was really popular, really well received.

16:24And then if you go back to Fire Emblem Awakening, this game, I think, is being positioned as the sort of sequel to Three Houses, which, you know, it did over four million copies, Three Houses. So it's not a tiny, tiny game. That's out in September. So anyway, my whole point is I wonder if Zelda, it looks like the biggest thing they've got. Zelda is the biggest thing they've got. Unless there's like a September Direct where they suddenly reveal a 3D Mario or something. There's Christmas, which is not going to happen. No. This is absolutely their big bet. Yeah. i'm intrigued chris when do you think they could release this i think november 19th exactly where i was going yeah genuinely i think nintendo are the only ones who could launch this on the same day as grand theft auto and it wouldn't be affected um i don't think you'd launch it the same day as grandpa thought i think they'd be mad but i do think they could release in november for this and i think for several reasons one it's a switch 2 exclusive and gta is non-switch 2.

17:17also it's not like the game isn't going to get coverage you know the thing is with a lot a lot of games that are going or we're avoiding launching in november it's because your game isn't going to get the attention i'll be honest if zelda and gta come out close together i'm getting zelda because i'm of yeah that i that's you're speaking to an you know you're speaking to me and i so i think they probably could and they'll they'll have a lot of zelda promotion going all the way up to the movie which i think in the spring next year so you'd still recommend they put it a little bit away than GTA because it is going to suck a lot of the oxygen.

17:47I've got in my head, wasn't the original Ocarina of Time out on like 22nd of November or something? Like November was historically a Zelda release date, if I remember rightly. So the famous thing about Ocarina of Time in the UK is they released it, I can't remember the exact date, I thought it was early December, but they didn't have enough units. They sold out almost instantly. They had very few units in the stock. And then they air-shipped in copies of the game because they didn't need to get it out before Christmas. it landed just before Christmas that airshipment and that's why Ocarina of Time was number one Christmas number one when that used to matter it was Christmas number one in the UK good times actually you know I'll go back there's a couple of more stats here obviously this isn't the first remake of Ocarina of Time no the other time it sort of came back was on the 3DS there was a you call it a remake I mean it's very similar it's a remaster it's a remaster we're into remake remaster reimagining but it's remaster isn't it yeah same game with a new coat of paint Yeah, it's very similar.

18:46That is 6.4 million units, which is actually above what a lot of Zelda games do. Yeah, I very rarely guess or predict sales figures. I would put Ocarina of Time Switch above that. It's definitely not going to hit like the 20k, 30k that... 30 million, yeah. 20 million, 30 million that Breath of the Wild and Tears of the Kingdom do. But I think it could maybe hit 10. Maybe. Yeah, it won't do it quickly because it's a Switch 2 game. No. Oh, no, no. And we're still in the early days of it. yeah i agree i think it could be very special particularly we're probably a long way away from zelda right i knew we could talk about zelda for ages that's why i did it first um i'm going to take the next one james go for it i'm going to pick call of duty uh so call of duty is in a really awkward unhappy spot so black ops 7 i know you missed this because you were out of the media it was a disaster like you know brendan sinclair on the games in the shop he used to talk about predict the demise of call of duty and he was always wrong right if he'd have predicted it that year you'd have got it right um launch sales of black ops 7 was down 50 percent compared to black ops 6 in europe it lost its place as the biggest shooter of the year it went to battlefield 6 that's never happened before call of duty is usually the best-selling game in the us every year unless rock star of a game out it's normally uh call of duty is the best-selling game but last year it was fifth oh that is low yeah according to ampere call of duty hq which includes black 6, 7, Modern Warfare 3, Modern Warfare 2, and Call of Duty Warzone, it had 12.3 million players in June, just June just gone.

20:15But that's a whole 8 million lower than June the year before. So it's nearly lost 40 % of its audience in the last 12 months. Now, there will be some fundamental problems here that go beyond just Call of Duty Black Ops, because there's been, it was declining before Black Ops 7. Black Ops 7 certainly was a bad result for it. I've been keeping abreast of the Modern Warfare 4 numbers. They does seem to be generating some strong buzz and as you've noticed from the charts Modern Warfare 4 is the third most watched trailer most watched trailers rather in the chart. 119 million so behind Wolverine, ahead of Marvel token.

20:53It isn't in the media coverage and this is fascinating because I spoke to her and I said why is there no Call of Duty media coverage? That does confuse me yeah. It's all YouTube right and so I actually spoke to Andy Robinson for vgc and went why don't the media cover call of duty so much because we do a bit he said but that audience is all on youtube and i thought that's interesting i didn't know that but yeah it's number one in terms of overall video views so it's across all creators nearly 700 million views there it's not on the igm wish list but that's always it can be a bit vague so it's getting a bit more buzz it's getting a lot more attention if people are being more positive about this one uh and i saw and i'm fairly confident in saying that modern warfare 4 will be bigger than black 7 black ops 7 was very bad and this game does look look stronger there was also this weird pattern with quality where you had like modern warfare 2 was really really good and everyone loved it and then modern warfare 3 wasn't and everyone hated it and then black ops 6 was really really good everyone loved it black ops 7 was also actually quite good but people hated it um so you have this you have this sort of one year you have this weird cycle of they did this weird thing when they did these two quick fire sequel things it doesn't seem to have worked but we're in the up here if following that pattern this should be the year where this one will be really good its problem is a certain grand theft auto there's no chance that modern warfare 4 will beat grand theft auto but i'm intrigued to see like how close it comes i am not a massive call of duty player but my understanding is that modern warfare is still like the prestige sub brand that's the one that everyone loves the most or is it shifted to black ops shifted to and from a couple of times It was actually a massive quality fan back in the day.

22:26Modern Warfare was the hero brand. And it came out in 2007. And then the sequel was 2009. But then Modern Warfare 3 is when Infinity Ward had that implosion. And Sledgehammer had a takeover. It was at that point that Black Ops started becoming the premium brand. And they're basically, they're both very, very strong. Yeah. I think the movie is going to be based on Modern Warfare. I would imagine so, yeah. It's the quickfire sequel experiment that you mentioned that intrigued me about this one. because obviously like the the reports I remember covering were sources say was the Modern Warfare 3 the new Modern Warfare 3 was originally an expansion or DLC or for Modern Warfare 2 that got spun out into a standalone release like the following year and that would mean that this is technically if true this would technically be Modern Warfare 3 yeah and so they've had a bit more time to to percolate on it a bit more so this should be the stronger release in theory yeah and activision blister they're not doing that anymore they're not doing the quick fast sequel we won't have modern warfare 5 next year i don't know what they'll do next year whether they'll have a game or whether they'll do you know updates or they're investing warzone i don't know the franchise is in is in i don't think troubled like not bad to disappear but there's a time i would have said what are the biggest games of 2026 excluding call of duty i'm not doing that anymore No.

23:43But this One and Warfare 4 is out 23rd of October. And of course, that's just under a month before GTA 6 looks. So it has time to get the launch out there and get players, but it is going to hit into that GTA window. And it's now down to Activision Blizzard and Microsoft and their marketing team and being able to go, how can we lean into GTA and the audience that will bring into PlayStation and Xbox rather than lean out? Could we do some big promotions around Black Fridays and stales and stuff like that? you know one people put down GTA um I don't know it's great to see it doing all right in these charts um but it's in a tough spot ultimately like even when Call of Duty is in a tough spot it's still selling like millions more than part of the majority of other games at the top of the show you said that um sports games aren't in this because we just know they're going to come out we know they're going to sell well I kind of put Call of Duty Call of Duty is like the gun sports game as it were so James you pick the next one what's the next game should we talk about I mean the next one must be marvel's wolverine yeah it's up there near the top of the charts for all of them so 128 million views in top trailers second only to zelda it's third in terms of media courage 5300 articles written about it it's uh second in video views 553 million accumulated views second only to modern warfare is top of ign's wish list um it's not on the steam wish list that's because it's not on steam that's because it's a playstation game that'll be why god am i out of touch already um this no this is this is a big one like so insomniac spider-man games have done so well and they've really kind of raised the bar for kind of not licensed tie-ins but licensed titles um you know in original text the comparison i would see is like they've kind of done for marvel games what batman arkham asylum did for dc games and they've raised the superhero game bar um higher I'm intrigued to see how this one does because this one is a lot more linear than the Spider-Man game Spider-Man games the usual kind of open world you're in New York and oh now we've got a bit Queens as well but it pretty much the same sort of structure that Spider-Man games have been since the Spider-Man 2 in 2004 Wolverine's gonna be a bit more linear lot kind of set pieces lots of globe trotting and different locations and so forth and it's a lot more brutal like I am a bit of a Marvel fan I enjoy a bit of Wolverine but I watch this personally I watch this footage and I'm like I really hope there's a way to turn off the blood there is apparently because there is so much of it there's a lot of excitement for this one like Insomniac have proven what they can do with superhero games Marvel as much as the MCU is kind of stalling a little bit the hype is building again for Avengers Doomsday at the end of the year so Marvel has never completely lost its popularity wolverine's always been one of their biggest characters i this has got to be and this is this is coming out september so this potentially what biggest game is september apart from sports games i think outside of sports and gta this is probably the best thing of the year because on paper it's got everything right yeah it's a story driven playstation game i know that it's not the open world of spider-man as you say it's more of a linear thing but those games also do well on PlayStation as we've seen with God of War.

26:51It's more God of War than I think Spider-Man. Yeah, it is. And those games do extremely well. Insomniac are just consistently brilliant. This is their fourth game on PlayStation 5. They had Miles Morales, they've had Spider-Man 2, and they've had Ratchet & Clank Rift Apart. All of those did really well critically. So you've got a great game. Sony are clearly putting their weight behind it. They were just at Comic-Con this weekend doing a lot of promotion around the game. Spider-Man is huge. You say first two games by May 2022 this date is really old 33 million sales spider-man 2 is not included in that because it came out later but that sold 11 million units in six months so these are you know they're they give it games there's a few things like i do think the violence is a bit much insomniac games are always in about bit like pg-13 or 12a right it's the ratchet and clank studio yeah and then they do do obviously spider-man is a lot more violent than ratchet and clank but it's still yeah it's still something that i wouldn't mind if i had a 12 year old playing it right but I would mind Wolverine and Wolverine's I don't resonate with that character quite as well as Spider-Man I oddly despite being a massive Insomniac fan I'm not that excited for it but on paper it looks really good it's actually one of two Marvel games that Sony are publishing the other one is this yeah beat-em-up Marvel token which I'm a bit out of that scene I went to Evo last year and went oh wow I can see why these games do really well in these charts and this obviously there's been a couple of new fighters this year the other one was Invincible Versus which also got a lot of buzz around it.

28:19Lots of pre-release buzz and hype for Marvel token. It's in the chart. Number four in the trailers, 98.5 million. It hasn't had a huge amount of media. Oh, I know. That's why I'm lying. I should have put numbers on this. It's number five in media coverage and it's hanging about. It's doing very well in those various charts. Let me just see where it is on the Steam wishlist. This one is coming out on Steam to confuse things about PlayStation and published games but it's not on the steam which is shot i think it's a fighting game so therefore it's naturally going to have a small audience being able to dedicated and very you know active audience which is the reason why the numbers are so high obviously stars a lot of famous marvel characters they've done a lot of promotion for it the beta weekend it just had there was a bit of a backlash to the pc performance there were some issues around that but um yes two marvel games um both from sony um wolverine will be the big one yeah oh absolutely but like i mean I'm interested to see how Token does because as you say that is a very targeted release there's a very specific audience there the fact that it's developed I believe it's developed by Arc System Works yeah you know big fighting game developer so you know just the screenshots alone it looks really it's one of those games you look at it's like I am not the audience but if I was the audience I would absolutely get this like it looks like kind of best of class kind of yeah what game do you want to cover next?

29:36well I was thinking it's connections we had two Marvel games there were also two Star Wars games now I ruined your segue way i'm so sorry no no i was i was i was we didn't at all i i was i was thought maybe let's go try that let's go from marvel to star wars because there are two star wars games in this chart one again like marvel actually marvel is quite high on both of them there's two types of star wars game again very different genres one is star wars galactic racer which is number six in the trailers 44.3 million uh views on trailers it is it's doing quite well with media coverage a little bit lower down 11 i think in the it's in the video views 121 million visit video views it's number four on the idea and wish lists uh this is a uk made game published by uk studio based on the star wars ip it is i i played this james did you did you play pod racer back in the day of course i did yeah yeah right that was a very arcadey star wars yeah and i only realized that because i played this one and it is not the pod racing thing is excellent like it was so excellent but I crashed a lot because I realized that I can't just skim a wall oh that's how I got through the courses yeah and if you touch a wall your thing blows up right and it's like wow this is tough and it's also very burnouty so in burnout remember when there's a crash and then the camera does this whole sort of fit and in in in in Star Wars Galactic Racer I'm driving through the canyon like this and then suddenly I nudge somebody and he crashed into a wall and there's a lovely replay of it then it cuts back to me and then I crash into a wall because I'm going really fast in a canyon but i thought it was brilliant it looks incredible but and it's and it's but i'm surprised there's not been a star wars racing and this these data suggests it's a bit of surprise not been a star wars racing game um uh in a very long time there was a couple brown pod racer there was a couple that followed it but then sort of from the early 2000s they just stopped and um this marks a return to it the last one i remember was i think was star wars pod racer racer revenge yeah there was also super bombad racer their cart version oh god yes yeah yeah i remember that but all of this was around that um for the prequel trilogy time yeah when star wars well yeah lucas were licensing out like star wars there were there were points where there'd be like three or four games coming out per film you know i remember like around attack of the clones you had like the clone wars which was like the strategy sort of one you had bounty hunter your action adventure you had Jedi Starfighter, which was your dogfighting game.

31:58So, yeah, the pod racing they were capitalising on when the prequels were huge and they were trying to make them huge. This feels like good timing because we are in that weird point where it's the nostalgia cycle, isn't it? It's been 20, 30 years since the prequels. Therefore, the people who watched that growing up are now excited for that feeling again. And so this is, you watch it and you watch how it's directed, how it's lit, how it looks. this is very much like a pod racing game for the children who watch episode one but are now adults and want that feeling again and i did i find it fascinating seeing like the pre because the prequels were obviously so we hated them they were hated everyone hated the prequels for decades and in the last five ten years it's become like oh weren't they brilliant and all that generate that that generation was fantastic the son of nostalgia for like clone wars and star wars rebels so this This is a well-timed...

32:55This is a... You're right, it's surprising there hasn't been a Podracer game earlier, but this is the right time to do it. And I think this could do quietly quite well. I think it will do really well. It's made by Fuse Games, but that's almost entirely the need for Speed Team, right? So these people know how to do this stuff. Yeah. Interesting, as a Doctor Who fan, I'm used to everyone saying, Peter Capaldi, what a rubbish Doctor. And then two generations later going, do you remember the Capaldi era? Yeah, it wasn't that good. And then we're going for that through Jodie Whittaker at the moment.

33:18So it's a weird thing, like, rose-tinted specs a little bit. but this game is not a pod racing game there is pod racing in it but there's like loads of different vehicles all the way from different eras you know even though it's set in a certain specific time place with characters and there's a story to it um they do it isn't just for people that loved episode one pod racer but it is clearly going to go to that and yeah you're right it's doing so well because of that nostalgia it looks great as well there is another star wars game coming out called star wars zero company that's actually quite soon um it's from ea it is quite low down in the trailer charts in fact technically it's off the trailer chart 21 at 10.2 million um it's in the steam wishlist chart 652 000 wishlist so it's doing quite well there um but it's sort of not in any of the others uh this is another i think this has another nostalgic potential because it's basically star wars x-con um but it's not it's not generating quite the same um noise as galactic racer but i don't know i don't think it matters when you've got a game like this um these sort of games it's a strategy game it's certainly more it's certainly more niche um it's out next month by the way it's out on the 27th of august um and um it can build and find that fan base and stuff like that all over time if you look at how you know sort of fur axis games do i i think it has that potential if it's good um i don't know i i know this is it's nothing to do with this studio has nothing to do with this publisher but come on stop messing around with licensed x-com games and just make me an x-com game it's like can't we just start building our own ip a little bit here but yeah i i think it's interesting because obviously star wars outlaws didn't do very well it missed it was a bit of a disappointment if you go back to that ubisoft game which angers me because like star wars outlaws is one of the best star wars games i've played in years like it is it is factually brilliant so i don't understand why it didn't do better well i think star wars probably going for a bit of a malaise there's a lot of noise around it and that because of but but i think the thing for me is being niche and going into targeted areas we're going to make an x-com star wars game brilliant yeah i'm going to make a racing star wars game brilliant rather than going let's make a big blockbuster star wars game you're going to make a marvel fighting game i think that's kind of where things might work for video games i do think if you're going to spend that much money on even insomnia with wolverine actually i probably don't agree with that but certainly if i was ubisoft i'd probably have made the division three rather than star wars because you didn't have to share the revenue with Disney and all sorts.

35:44Anyway, James, pick me, pick us the next game. You know, we're not going to go for all of them. But by the way, if you want to see all of them, the charts are in the newsletter and you can see all the games in there. But James, pick us another. The one I was going to pick was, I'm going to go with Control Resident. So this is coming out, this is second in the IGN wishlist chart. It is bottom of the top 10 in video views, 124 million. so still more than it's just above star wars galactic racer it's number six in media coverage 4200 articles it doesn't i was right down the bottom of top trailers uh with 10.7 million views but i mean this one is particularly interesting because remedy have been uh remedy historically perhaps a little niche in terms of their games there's a big big cult following around them um but they've never been like absolutely massive sellers Control did really really well Alan Wake 2 then followed and has done well my understanding is that Alan Wake 2 has done well over time and here was a sequel I'm intrigued about this one like I am not a Remedy fan unlike people that we know I am not a massive I mean you're a bit of a Remedy fan I love Alan Wake yeah and Control is the one of the two games of theirs that I actually really enjoyed I liked Quantum Break but Control I absolutely loved this is interesting because it's a sequel but it goes a very different direction the first one was very kind of third person shooting and you know lots of superpowers and so forth and it was all set within this kind of brutalist um claustrophobic office and then this has gone it's not open world but it's like much more open sections um of levels and it's a lot more melee and like almost superhero melee combat with like weird powers and so forth and so given that it's control did really well and was received really well to go such a strange not strange such a different direction with the sequel i'm interested to see whether this pays off for them classic remedy they will never this is but this is but the but you're right we had remedy on the show back in in may and the big thing we talked about is that the game should do better you mentioned alan wake 2 did well it didn't like it is it's profitable i don't lose the money but um it didn't it didn't took them a while to get to profitability on that title and um it should have been a massive hit like it's one of the best horror games made in it's up there with it's resident evil quality now i'm not expecting it to do resident evil numbers those games an exceptional thing but even like it should do it should be one of the better performing horror games it wasn't and i partly i think that's to do with the fact their games are a bit strange and they are a little bit unique and a little bit you know David Lynch-y and I the whole thing is Remedy's publishing this one themselves now they learn how to publish games with last year's incredibly disappointing I've got the name of the game now the live service game they released last year that underperformed for them and they basically scaled back on that.

38:54But this one is their publishing themselves, so they can probably lean into their weird little bit. They can embrace what makes their games unique. I'm not saying the publishers didn't get it before, but they really get it, Remedy. So I'm intrigued by it. It's getting a lot of attention. They're very good at PR, Remedy, and media really love Remedy. So the fact that it's done very well in the media coverage is not a surprise. It's done really well on video views, though, even if it's not done quite so well on the trailer charts, but it is in the trailer charts. I think it'd be interesting it's coming out in the death zone though what is it with Remedy and releasing their big games next to big games like it's just I know they don't do it on purpose this is like it just seems to be the curse of them Alan Wake 2 came out when Spider-Man 2 did and was in that sort of weird crunch zone of October I can't remember what year was 2023 where it was like it was just all these big big titles that came out at once at that time that obviously famously Alan Wake ended up being killed by Red Dead Redemption and now we've got control resin in that kill zone of September but obviously it's not all about launch anymore and you know they're getting the game out well in advance it looks interesting I really want it to do well so yeah it's interesting can I pick some new IP?

40:07Go for it. I'm going to pick two because we're running out of time. One is Blood of the Dawnwalker Blood of the Dawnwalker is really interesting we had them on the show earlier this year this is a game from the former witcher devs it's basically vampires meet the witcher with some sort of you know you decisions that can't be undone and all you have to make decisions and things like it is uh it looks good public publisher of ando namco who are good at uh public the western rpgs obviously um they're with the they did the witcher they also published from software games as well so they're good with this sort of audience um uh the um the uh uh i think this is going to be a hit if it's good i think it will be a hit regardless but i think it will be a it'll be so blood them will get it's not that high on the um trailer charts and just just outside the top 15 15.4 million trailers but it's number two in the media coverage and um it's it's number two in the steam wishlist charts 1.47 million wishlists coming out in early September it's also I'm unless I'm missing something is this the only western RPG coming out this year I can't think of any other Fable was due this year it's now February there's also there's a lot of lingering hunger for a new Witcher game so in the absence of that a new game by the Witcher developers and particularly if it ends up being very Witcher like like you know I know a lot of studio a lot of developers like when they break away and they start their own studio they want to make something completely different but I think if there's enough crossover there um yeah I mean like you know the the Witcher 3's reputation is just absolutely huge it's one of the one of the most you know praised games of the last 10 years wow it's just announced DLC for the Witcher 3 yeah I know that's nuts that's how uh it's still going and obviously the Witcher 4 is deep in development I think it will come down to how good it is um I'm thinking like you know there's a thing with sort of European made RPGs that are, you know, Baldur's Gate 3 and stuff, they can break out and do really, really big numbers.

42:05Blood of the Dawn Walker, I think it's going to do good, decent numbers any or regardless. It's not the biggest team. It's made in a country that's not, it's quite cheap to make games, relatively cheap to make games rather than other. And so I think that, I think it's going to do very well. How well will depend on how good the game is. As you say, it comes down to how good the game is and how well Bandon Amkai and Rebel Wolves emphasize that, Witcher connection because I'll be honest when I first looked at these charts last night like I was like blood the door walker honestly had forgotten the name it's it's very kind of word of the word word sort of title but it's do you know what I mean like it's not generic but like it's like it's just I don't know what that means as soon and I thought oh that's scratching this I have a vague memory of what that is as soon as I saw former Witcher devs I'm now interested so I think they really need to emphasize that kind of from the makers of I think Gamescom is going to be a big moment for it as well as td project be there pulling at the witch as well so it's going to be a lot of noise around that kind of stuff the other new ip i want to talk about is beast of reincarnation yeah now this is this is a japanese rpg it's made by game freak who are obviously very famous for um uh pokemon um oddly this game is not on nintendo it's backed by xbox it's game pass uh day one so that guarantees a strong sort of audience on day one it's it's high on the list this past because it's out soon it's out next week right so that's that sort of naturally that's the thing with these charts they are influenced a little bit by the games and they're out sooner it's it has featured but it has also featured in both the Xbox and PlayStation digital events so we have you know it has had a lot of push from the consoles it's it's you know it's doing quite well in terms of media coverage I think it will do even more because it's just had a load of uh stuff being said about it it's in the top 10 28.2 million in top trailers uh it's um uh it's surely it's in the i don't know it's the bottom 97.7 million video views in the video charts um yeah it's it's just it's just it's in the in the ig and wish list thing i think it could be and the buzz is quite positive around it and it looks kind of nice for what was used to the technical capabilities of pokemon yeah like hang on why don't what uh that's that's what i'm waiting for well that's what i'm waiting for is when this if this comes out and is an absolute technological marvel and is done brilliantly and like then the scrutiny on winds and waves next year even though obviously like you know very different platform you're making you're making this for like much much more powerful consoles than you know nintendo's even the switch too but it does it looked stunning like i like i watched the trailers for this i watched you both the um the showcases in june and i had to keep reminding myself like this is by game freak like you proper squint it's like if you took the logo off the trailer you would not be able to tell yeah this is by the people who made pokemon it looks like a whole other class of game yeah yeah well the numbers are certainly positive for it go on james you pick the next one i'm actually gonna pick a chart can we talk about the steam wishlets chart okay go on then there's a lot of games in that i'm like what yes exactly well no just it just emphasizes to me that steam really is its own world like it's completely separate from the the wider console and pc space like you know if you look at steam on its own like you know blood of the dawn walk is like number two as you said but you know phantom blade zero on a musha way of the sword dawn of war four those are like the other top the others in the top four and those are much lower in the other charts but you know you mentioned about new ip there's so much more new ip in the steam whistle chart and it's because it's it's indie games yeah and you've got you know nivalas i'm not going to go into detail on all these but just picking out some that i know of nivalas knights is i believe the developers of cloudpunk they are it's set in the world of cloudpunk and they've made it it's kind of a cyberpunk life sim is my understanding of it um big walk is the new one by house house and panic um so that's the house house is the untitled goose game developer i believe yeah there's lots of the weird kind of like job based games like you know low budget repairs, re-story chill electronics repair like just I look at the Steam wishlist chart and I'm like it really shows that the PC gaming space is very very different to kind of the broader market.

46:29I know we people can talk about PC and consoles if they're the same sort of thing they're really not the audiences aren't really different yeah like and like there's a heavy turret simulators in this hell let loose Vietnam by the way British made game published by team 17. we don't talk about that very much i'd like to get them on the show at some point um the um uh but yeah but also even things like phantom blade zero which is the wuxia sort of um uh action game it is technically part of a franchise but yeah um it's it's a but not really you know that game is very high in the trailers and the steam wishlist charts not at all in the media charts um that's the thing like none of these games are the media charts um on emotion so yeah it's really it's really fascinating by the way we talked about patrol resident earlier number five in the steam wishlist chart yeah that's true yeah and and crucially grand theft also is not coming out on pc yet so yeah these are the games that people are looking forward to because they don't have access to grand theft also yeah it's certainly uh it is a it's an eclectic chart i actually wanted to bring up because you mentioned uh we mentioned phantom blade zero there and sort of i guess it's leastly connected to that it looks similar is on a musha played that summer game fest i was a little bit like capcom why are you doing that you know it's like it was and don't be wrong it was okay on ps2 did all right but it's not like the biggest thing in the world but look look at it i underestimate capcom at your peril um number three in steam wishlist i played it as i'm going first of all it was really good it is in the top trailer charts i think it's at number 11 for 18.5 million uh views there it's been covered quite a lot by the press it's just behind control resident 3800 articles um and capcom on such a streak of success resident the Requiem into Pragmata and Onimusha looks like it might do all right I don't think it's going to be the biggest thing in the world it's also coming out in that kill box of September but um yeah sorry I was sort of derailed there from talking about Steam but it's like it's in there it's in that top get charts it's a good one to pick out yeah um I think the only other thing like looking across all the charts that that strikes me obviously we've talked about Zelda Ocarina of Time extensively there is one more remake that's doing the the rounds which is Rayman Legends retold I think the fact that you picked that out talks to our bias I think it does to the games that we like I never played them that's not my bias that is my surprise I'm surprised that that is so popular it is a little higher than I thought it would be this is like a 3D-ish remake of Rayman Legends I don't know why it's not just a different game I have said that to Ubisoft why is this being positioned as a remake when it's so different and i mean it is it's quite similar to it but yeah it's doing quite well top it's doing the top trailers top 10 12 point um 24.2 million it's uh it's had a bit of media coverage as well um yeah it's it's it's it's in this even in the video views it's had a lot of chat around it which you know i'm pleased by i'm not expecting too much from that i don't think it's gonna be the biggest game of the year but it's um certainly uh doing a little it's doing all right with the numbers of course what we should probably talk about and i don't care about it i suppose you don't care about it very much either it's Gears of War E-Day which is which is higher up a lot of these a lot of these charts it's number nine in the trailer 25.3 million it's number four in media coverage 4 ,600 I expect most of that is people amazed that they're making it exclusive to Xbox I was going to say that is absolutely the majority of the narrative around this game again really interested to see how that performs because Xbox shifted away from exclusivity for a reason uh that reason perhaps being lower platform sales than you know the biggest platform on the market um I mean I'm just I'm interested to see whether this because funnily enough I've been hearing a lot of um conversations like podcasts and stuff around Gears of War and the debate as to whether Gears of War obviously is one of the tentpole franchises for Xbox but is the audience still there is the audience that grew up on the original trilogy on xbox 360 are they still interested in gears of war are they still i don't know i don't mean no entirely it is relatively popular in the u.s gears of war right i think they can't we come from a slightly european perspective where the franchise it does sell some copies over here but not very much um uh which is the reason why i think they've utterly killed it in the in europe it'll do all right in the uk because uk has a decent Xbox and store base but Europe doesn't um and I think not putting Gears of War on PlayStation is going to hurt it quite a bit outside of America um but it isn't the hero title it used to be even though it's closely associated with the the console um but numbers are pretty good a lot of chat around it in October um so and maybe this will be the one you know Capcom whole thing about Xbox this whole plan of there it's all the layoffs all the closures and stuff it's all about focusing on the core franchises and they've clearly identified Gears of War being one of those core franchises, certainly one they believe they can bring back.

51:25Obviously that plan is new, Gears of War E-Day has been in development for some time, but yeah, we had Lucy James on the podcast and she just was very dismissive of it and some of the fans were not entirely happy but I think, you know maybe this will be the one it's like, games do stage comebacks all the time I'm going to have to run out, I'm going to leave it there, if you want to see the full chart by the way of all the listeners at home um we have got there's loads of games in this that's interesting silent hill town falls in there as they obviously are well that's sort of in the middle of a lot of these charts minecraft dungeons has done well with the trailers doesn't do so well the media coverage but it's is in there as well um uh we dawn of war 4 it's actually quite a big pc release that one um obviously made by a different developer this time the from the dawn of war normal games that's that's in the charts as well there's a few games that aren't in the charts because they're technically not new games that i think will do very well and i'll pick two of them um one is lego batman so lego batman it obviously came out in may it didn't come out on nintendo in may it's coming out in nintendo i think in september um and obviously that is a uh that the lego games do very well on nintendo platforms they're one of the third party games um that do very well on on nintendo things they don't necessarily tend to do very well at launch on on on nintendo platforms yeah september 18th um they tend to do well over time they do well at launch and then they just keep growing and growing and growing but that will be a significant one um for that game the other one is forza horizon 6 right because that's coming out on ps5 and apparently it's coming out ps5 in 2026 not on the list because it came out on pc and xbox back in may forza horizon 6 forza 5 came out on the ps5 last year and was a huge hit um so this is so I don't know if that means that people for the hyzer 6 come out and playstation fans will go we just just got one just got that one a year ago or if they'll go ah we love that one we'll get this new one as well um I think that but I think it will definitely do numbers it'll definitely do all right it is coming depends how close it not just the GTA actually I suspect but um that is a uh assuming it's still coming into A26 there's another game that's uh coming out to a new platform at some point I knew you're going to mention this yeah of course it was yeah what's What game are you going to mention, James?

53:41007 First Light. Millions sold within the first couple of weeks. Absolutely the best Bond game in decades. I might double dip myself. Might pick it up on Switch as well. I'm going to. Yeah, it's about time the Nintendo audience saw how good it is. So that's coming out at some point before the end of the year. I don't think that's going to be one of the biggest launches. Not for you, but. Well, but, I mean, it is for me. First of all, it's brilliant, right? Yeah. Absolutely brilliant. I'm the guy with the gold and I signed gold and I post on my wall. Yeah, I know. Yeah. Fair point. Fair point. And there is an association with Bond and Nintendo because of that game.

54:19Yeah. So yeah, I think it would do all right. I just, um, it's I don't think it's going to trouble the charts come, come, come the end of the year. James, thank you for joining us. No, thank you so much. This has been a really fun episode to be on. So thank you so much for asking me. Yes, it's less layoffs. No disc. What's happening to the discs? None of that rage. It's all just let's look forward to some games. but yeah I think it's an interesting year oddly although there's lots of games on this list they're all quite lots of loads of different games yeah right even in the September we're talking about September being this kill zone and I guess it is a little bit but Marvel's Wolverine Control Resonant Onimusha they're quite different and I think even if they're going to eat each other a little bit in September because people are having to make choices I'm a big Fire Emblem fan I'm going to get Fire Emblem which means I'm probably not going to get Marvel's Wolverine I'm probably not going to get Control Resonant that month months but I will get them because they they they took brilliant um so uh yeah I think it's I think it's gonna be good it's gonna be a good year plenty for everyone obviously I'm just waiting for Zelda but yeah there's other things to keep me distracted on the on in the meantime yeah me too right I'm going to now do the news James so I'll let you go but um yeah thank you for joining us thank you so much good luck with your demo launch cheers all that's left for us to do now is wrap up the news from the last week and there were actually a few stories and there was a few financial results as well and we're going to start with crafting and we don't always cover craft and some financial results but craft and launch the subnautica 2 smash hit game only a few months ago and it has paid off for them very well the korean games giant saw its revenue shoot up 94.9 to 889 million dollars and operating profit rose 67 to 283 million dollars it wasn't just subnautica 2 that did the business for them pub g as well but obviously that game was a real breakout hit um even though we did see it coming it was dominating the steam wish lists but uh yeah did extremely well sticking with financials capcom delivered incredible results really for q1 this is on the back of two things resident evil requiem continues to do very very well it's now sold 8 million units and also the new game pragmata that's a new ip as well two and a half million copies that game has sold as a result capcom's income rose 69.2 percent 177.5 million dollars while profit hit 250 million which is up 67 percent uh incredible results there for the folks at capcom let's do ubisoft's financials as well it's a little bit older this one um it's a mixed results 255.8 million euros which is you know down 9.2 over the quarter the year before but the decline was due to the comparison of assassin's creed shadows which launched in march last year and did very very well for them into the following quarter the firm is feeling pretty bullish though it's just launched assassin's creed black flag resync which has done very well and it's sold three and a half million copies so that's um some some more positive a little bit more positive news out of ubisoft um a few negative stories double fine production has reduced its workforce by 23 people or 25 of the team and this is following its divorce from xbox obviously left the studio now it's independent it's still going to sign p it's trying to find new deals new publishers uh as is compulsion games the other studio that spun out from xbox these are hard landings these companies have been given a little bit of runway cash but they have to find work fast and it's going to be difficult it's difficult market to do that in also a company having a bit of a tough time which was the coast um so wizards owner hasbro recorded a 56 million dollar impairment charge last week due to its video game investments several video games have been cancelled and now was the coast boss john hight will step down he's taking down from september the 1st he's a former blizzard exec he sort of handled world of warcraft and he's been overseeing magic the gathering dungeon dragons and the upcoming video games exodus and warlock uh both those games still scheduled for 2027 they're big bets there for wizards of the ghost some interesting stories atari has signed a deal with universal pictures to develop 10 of its ip into games those titles are asteroids adventure berserk breakout centipede crystal castles millipede missile command pong and y 'all's revenge none of them are particularly massive and i'm not entirely sure what the plan is with those games they don't screen blockbuster successes at the box office but who can see well i'm sure there's plan somewhere down the line february is shaping up to be a really busy one for the video game industry next year we already had fable the xbox reboot of the classic um rpg franchise that was coming on february 23rd we had tomb raider legacy of atlantis coming on february 12th and now we have god of war lofe the big big playstation game coming out february 16th there's a lot of female fronted games there and they all look excellent so busy busy february for the video games industry the eu commission has approved the 55 billion acquisition of electronic arts and that's the from a consortium of investors led by the saudi arabia public investment fund we have talked about this quite a bit on the show and check out the political episodes we've done with george osborne sort of explain why the saudis are so interested in buying ea and their and their investments in video games it's eye-opening reading and a few final little stories human fall flat has now sold 60 million units worldwide that game came out 10 years ago which is deeply upsetting for me that feels like only yesterday it's been developed of course by no breaks games it was published by curve so incredible results there human fall flat what a massive number and finally xbox is making classic games available on PC and via Game Pass.

59:19The first four titles are Blinkster Timesweeper, Fusion Frenzy, Crimson Skies, High Road to Revenge, and Conker Live and Reloaded. That last one is a remake of Conker's Bad Fur Day, which is the game that inspired me to become a video game journalist. So I love that game and I wanted to make sure that I referenced that story. That's it from us today. And in fact, that's it from us for a week. We're taking next week off. A little bit of a break for us. We've been doing 135, 136, I've lost count, episodes of the Game business show as of now and that doesn't include our micros so we're having a little bit of a pause but we do have some really big episodes when we come back we have a major interview with two major interviews with big triple a game studios we've got some interesting companies you've never heard of as well plus a major three major publishers i think we're doing and one of the biggest video game legends you can imagine is coming on the show as well all in the next few months uh we'll of course also be covering the hokio game show on my first time in japan i'm very excited to be going out there to be interviewing some of the Japanese game studios and games companies and Gamescom.

1:00:17Of course, we're going to be there in a big way as well. We've got some nice interviews set up there and we've got some breaking stories. We've got for you some more data, lots and lots of stuff to look forward to. Just not next week. Next week, you're not going to be here. But until then, thank you for tuning in. And if you want to make sure you don't miss those episodes when they do land, head to thegamebusiness.com and put in your email address and that way you won't miss an episode. Have a lovely week.