Boy Talk: Does it count as cheating…if I felt single?

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1:37You know the drama is never ending. Don't let it get the best of you. Back to life. Guys, we've been lying to you. We're back. This is actually our first episode back in January. It is. We're just finding our feet. I've got the sleeves on. Well, that's the movie magic, isn't it? Of course it is. That's the smoke and mirrors of Hollywood, you know? Of course, absolutely. This is actually our first episode back in 2026. And when you're Hollywood stars, you see. Woohoo, we've got Blueberry. Blueberry's here after her first Christmas. Sorry, I know we're not speaking about it anymore. The time has passed.

2:11Christmas is long gone. It's boring. We're not speaking about Christmas anymore. But we are feeling energized because this is our first episode back. Absolutely, I've had a little bit of breakfast. Oh, rusty. I was trying to listen to some podcasts, not ours, just to get back in the zone of being a podcaster, you know, in my profession. Get back in the swing of things. Absolutely. Okay. Okay. And it's been going well and I'm happy to be here. Absolutely. I mean, do you know who I actually think we should manifest, guess-wise, for 2026? Oh, yeah? December 10. Who else is obsessed with December 10?

2:48I would love it well why don't we try and get their new single exclusive oh my god wait did you see what I think you're on TikTok on the way here tour dates no tour dates shut up I think we should go we can't go why we're 28 they are 15 we're a decade older more than no they are cool though Cruz Danny Josh if it was 2016 Hendrix I know all their names Hendrix if it was 2016 again oh we'd be eating it up which it is though it is it is the resurgence to 2016 then we would be at their concert yeah i think we should go yeah to show support why garner some support for the boys rally the troops what what was their cover they put out again um backstreet boys

3:37well we were watching over christmas and sending each other that feels like ages ago and it was Like that, I did that. Then I watched Tell Me Lies. I watched Simon's show in one night. Yeah, nice. Binged it. Nice. Tell Me Lies, you do need to watch. Yeah, I need to watch that. Deadass. Also, Lydia. I've been spending too much time with Lydia because that's what she says and I've been saying that. It makes me feel sick. Deadass. Deadass. Deadass. Deadass. It's going to come out a few times. Okay, it's going to rub off on me now. Cut to me in two weeks. Deadass. No, deadass. Watch that. What else did I watch over the break?

4:13Yeah. you know that baby there was loads of things I watched yeah there was loads of good shit going on my mind's gone blank but there was loads of good stuff Tell Me Lies and now I'm waiting for that obviously Traitors is on obviously Traitors is on which I think everyone's watched yeah um Blee B I was in the cinema Marty Supreme oh yeah of course Marty Supreme Avatar loved it yeah need to watch The Housemaid still not watch that yeah me too and I need to watch Hamnet and I want to watch Wuthering Heights but it's not out yet Wuthering Heights is not out yet Yeah. But you should read the book.

4:46And you should read Hamlet. Do you know what? You should get into Shakespeare. No, I'm not doing that. No, you should. Come on. Get into the Shakespeare. 12th and I had to read that at school. Did you read 12th and I? No, I didn't. You clocked off by then. It wasn't in my thingy. Were you doing? Oh, you read it in A-level. I believe so. Because, yeah, you read it of Mice and Men, right? No, no, no. We did To Kill a Mockingbird. Oh, other people read to Mice and Men. The other set did Mice and Men. The other set. We were top set. Yeah, of course. they did a for my summer they did my summer and we were Romeo and Juliet yeah and we were back large and in charge back better than ever absolutely and we've got fresh energy and fresh wisdom absolutely for 2026 absolutely I guess we won't talk about resolutions because we've kind of been there and done that no we've been there done that people are over the resolutions sorry I just got to get in the mind frame you know yeah I have been cooking I have been cooking nice oh my god cooking some salmon that reminds me yeah yesterday cooking some old eggs I've really set myself up nice for tonight because Sunday, yesterday, I made the biggest roast.

5:46Wow. Well done. Two chickens. Jesus. Like a whole tray of roast potatoes. Like I was cooking up a storm in the kitchen. Wow. And now I've got like a whole roast to go again tonight. Nice. I've got whole chicken left. Fabulous. Can't wait. You should make little sandwiches. Oh, yeah. Or a wrap. I'm all over it. Chicken wrap, mayo, lettuce. Yeah, I'm ready to go. Or a Sunday roast wrap. Yes. Would really go down a tree. I was having that a lot over Christmas. I need to chill out with the Sunday roast roast. Are you aware of, is it Caroline Cox? No. Whoa. No. Sorry. Completely wrong person. That lady on TikTok with the food, sweet potato and the cheese, a weebix dipped in chocolate.

6:25No. Sorry. What's her name? Caroline Cox is that lady from America. Absolutely not. Caroline Cox. No. Charlotte or something. We're going to get the C. No, tell me. You don't see people eating the big sweet potato with the butter kaiser cheese in it? No Well she's also been doing This is something we need to do A whole Weetabix She's dipping half of it in chocolate And then letting it solidify Dry And then it's solidified on the Weetabix And then it's a dunkable Dunking it in milk and biting it Get a load of that Nah sorry Yes you do I'm not sure Yeah because you like Weetabix chocolate minis Why would you not like that Of course you would Because it's crispy You need to see it No because you can dunk it for a while You can dunk it you can get it moist oh okay I didn't picture it being moist no you can dunk it and get it moist and people are doing like Weetabix flights all sorts cookies and cream white chocolate nice yeah I'm gonna get it I'm gonna get into that 2022 well we know we love our Weetabix I like warm Weetabix three Weetabix bowl honey microwave 30 seconds gorgeous because what mum used to have was she'd have Weetabix pour a load of sweetener on it nice you know that like powdered sweetener I've got to eat that up.

7:40I used to get my spoon in the sugar and just graze it. Just put it all over the top. Yeah. Frosted white. See, she didn't have the real stuff. She had Splendor. Wow. And that was nice. Cooking up a storm. And then she'd put Splendor on strawberries and I'd eat that too. Right. It is time for question of the week. Let's dive straight back into this. We're officially wishing you a happy January from Sophia and Chincia in January. We're not lying to you anymore about what day it is. We apologize. It's January. It feels good Cutting off the loose ends You know positive thinking You know Healthy habits There she goes healthy habits Absolutely So our question of the week this week Question of the week Is Switching gears What's the cringiest thing You've done To flirt Here we go well it takes me back to friends and monica trying to be will be missed you bought the dvd oh it's fine i just bought it on amazon i mean i thought it was coming back i mean do you know what i'm actually really sad about because what i was really actually getting emotionally attached to significantly in december was big bang yeah like big bang kind of overtook friends for me for a little bit i had it on all day every day like laughing out loud at big bang like it is so funny i know like it's hilarious and i've gone through my phases with big bang but it really took the number one spot for me over christmas yeah and i'm like shit yeah it's gone i know amazon prime i mean we've got two girls though but i've seen all that yeah i watched that once that wasn't that's not like like it's not a thing for me but since buying friends i've been putting on every day because I'm getting my cost per watch.

9:30Absolutely. Before it's out somewhere else for free. Yeah. Where's it going to go, do you think? Well, apparently it's going to be on, apparently they're bringing like Hulu or something to the UK, another streaming service. You know, I've already got Paramount+. I can't keep up with the subscriptions. I've already got Apple TV. I've already got, well, Netflix. I'm trying not to cover it. Okay. So what were you going to say? Cringy thing to flirt, friends? I was going to say when Monica was trying to be sex with the carrots, no? with the carrots. Wasn't she trying to cut a carrot sexy and then the knife blew?

10:04What? And then Chandler lost his toe or his finger? It was a flashback. It's a flashback. Thanksgiving. What a safe memory, an alternate universe. No, a real memory, no? And she's got carrots and she's trying to cut them sexy. Oh my God, I'm really lacking my law here because that's not ringing any down. She's trying to be sexy in the kitchen. It's a flashback of all the way together. And then the knife flies. Oh, when they were at the mum and dad's house. Yes, and then the knife flies. Oh, yes, and the plaster. Yes. And is it the toe on ice? Oh, but it's a carrot. She's at high school. Yeah, but she wasn't cutting carrots.

10:43Oh, no. And then the carrot was in the bag. Yes, I forgot all about that. Oh, well done. Yeah, thank you. I've been watching a lot. So, have you seen those like super hard tests on TikTok? I haven't. I've been trying to do it. Like finish the line. did I send it you? They're quite hard Yeah they are quite hard Yeah I was trying to do them That's what that reminded me of that would be a good one for that Well I've been watching season one because I realised that I'm not that versed in season one at all and I didn't realise that the character that plays not Susan what's her name? Changed Yeah I didn't know that Yeah I know Because I was like who's that lady?

11:15Yeah I know it took me a while Yeah She was only in season one I think and then they swapped her out Makes sense Yeah But I don't go back to season one often I like to sit around season seven I think it is Yeah yeah I like to hit it when Ross and Rachel get married in Vegas. Yeah, yeah. I like to go in around there. And then when Ross is like trying to make Chandler and Monica move in. Yeah, yeah. And it's like, what's all this about you guys fighting? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then he like doesn't want them to move in. That's where I usually like to dip my toe in. I mean, me too. I'm usually a six.

11:48Yeah, six to seven is peak. Usually a six. Okay, cringiest thing you've done to flirt. found his Spotify and posted Insta stories using his famous songs. That's pretty good. I feel that's a classic. I think that's good actually. Like finding common ground. I listened to Yeah, I love that song. Party Next Door. Love that. Yeah, real big fan. Yeah, big fan. I used to purposefully run past his house. I don't think I would be doing that to flirt. I'd be running in the opposite direction. Catch his lintz of you. Bought and drank whiskey at the bar to look cool. Oh, yes. Pretended I supported his football team Okay, yeah, absolutely Pretended I was a gamer Okay, yeah Made a separate story with just him in it That's pretty smart I think I've done that once Close friends just knocking everyone else off Just leave them one person Sometimes you just want to make sure he's watching Made a fake uni buddy account To figure out where his lectures were Oh, what's that?

12:49What's a uni buddy then? Must be a little inside thing at the uni Must be a uni law that we aren't versed with. Let him give me an eyebrow slit. I would never. Actually, my eyebrows grow back quite quick. So maybe. Yours grow back at rapid rate. You'd be absolutely fine. Yeah. Wow. You must have really wanted him to like you. If you let him give you an eyebrow slit. Watch Star Wars so we could text about it. Snooze. Ain't no one catching me doing that. I've actually seen all the Star Wars. Hobbit. I've watched all the Star Wars, but I've not watched the Hobbit shit and the Lord of the Rings stuff.

13:20Oh, wait. I'm getting confused. Yeah, Star Wars is in a spaceship. I was thinking that that was a Lord of the Rings. Oh no, you got your world mixed. I got that all confused. I mean, you actually went through the Marvel phase. Don't remind me. For an ex-lover. I will never do anything else. I will never do anything for a man. I'm never doing anything ever again for a man. Cut back to about four years ago, Chintzia. The Marvel films are actually really good. And I actually really like watching them. Shut up. Like, I will never. I will never. No, but it is interesting how you can get into your partner's interest.

13:51because at the time you were genuinely like you were trying to tell me and Lydia that you were enjoying these Marvel films and we were like you do know that we have known you I was just trying to convince myself I will never do anything ever again for a man okay and you have my word on on tape you have my word absolutely this is why I had to get a girl dog you know right um that's gonna be a great clip to watch back one day I will never do anything for a man ever in my life. No, but this is the thing about Chinzia. Chinzia in love and Chinzia not in love are two different people. And I'm telling you guys that as her best friend of 20 years.

14:35I will never be in love again. Dead ass. Told you it was my new word. Dead ass. Okay, well that's, you know, June 26th, I'm here for it. Yeah, it's going to have to be an alien. I'm just here on the sidelines having a great time. It's going to have to be an alien sent down from Mars. Okay. My parents are aliens. Classic show. True. True. Actually, Heated Rivalry has actually done stuff for me. Heated Rivalry. It's made me realize the male form. Oh, I saw a willy yesterday. Where? You know who? Oh my God. What? The man? Yeah. With the girl. The couple. In the bed. In bed. Sunday afternoon. Of course, they're right there.

15:14She's in bed. I was like, oh, she's under the sheets naked. I was like, where's he? He comes in nude. really flopping everywhere i could just see it i was just stood and i was just stood there you know he's that old man yeah he's like oh like she's young and gorgeous i know and he's like oh but obviously no judgment oh my god um and his i just saw his full willy oh and then i knew he was true he was like i don't know he bought her a cup of tea i appreciate i feel like they just had sex then he went and got her a cup of tea and put it on her bedside with his willy out yeah his whole willy is flopping then he got back in bed sat on his phone with his whole willy out me and blueberry even blueberry was like blanket put your dressing gown on i know obviously he's comfortable he doesn't realize that no one can see him oh my god um so yeah i saw a willy yesterday it's been a while wow gosh it's all kicking off oh do you know what it's funny because i was thinking about those two a few days ago i always think about weirdly and i was wondering if they were still a love match yeah they made it through into jam oh well i'm happy for them yeah she does a lot of nice work at home days from bed.

16:16From bed, yeah. Which I really, it looks lovely. Yeah. You know, and then she has a nap. Nice. Midday, she's been on her laptop. And then she rolls over, has a snooze. Nice. She has a nice, then her little boyfriend comes over in the evening flopping his willy about. Yeah, it's nice. But I get the vibe that it's giving secret relationship. Yeah, but sometimes she is at his. Because she doesn't come back in the evening sometimes. Fair. So she is going to his, he's coming over. Okay. it just gives me it just gives me a sex arrangement vibes yeah me too but I think they are going out on dates because then after that then they went out and I think they went and got a roast because that was like 2pm and then they were out I was like oh lovely I'm sure they've gone out to some food

17:01living through that couple so that's lovely yeah that's nice okay and I didn't verbally tell you what happened to me with the flowers oh my god wait tell the pod did it i dumpster dived what did the story develop no that was it i dumpster dived dead ass oh seven again i genuinely dumpster dived i went it was december it was before christmas yeah it was before christmas and i do think this was a sign and i'll tell you why okay i went down to the bins to take my rubbish out as i do yeah nice just about to fling about to fling the rubbish the rubbish into the bin there is beautifully preserved 250 baby pink roses in a massive bouquet and that's not cheap beautifully preserved i know for a fact in london that's 900 pounds fact we'll insert a pic for the visual yeah i took a picture of them in the bin i couldn't believe my eyes i didn't even think about it i looked at the cameras cameras one camera there one camera there because i knew they were watching me the cc pout taking the flowers i was one camera another camera and i went and grabbed them out the bin too right looks around again and i raced out there i got into the lift and they not a single petal was brown no this this was for they were delivered today i the way i would know the law of who these was there a name tag no i need someone's defo got cheated on like they were apology flowers and she screamed and dumped them in the bin because they were delivered that day wow that day 250 roses and then it took me about an hour notice board i didn't want to because i was i guess you want your i was gonna make a tiktok but then i was scared she was gonna find me out i didn't want to be seen as a dumpster diver of you know my my building yes you didn't want to give away your location no and i didn't want the concierge men to watch me on the cameras and say that i'd stolen because i was actually quite anxious about it's in the bin that's not theft true but still is it illegal to dumpster dive i don't think so no it's not because it's in the bin but they do watch me on the cameras because of email me about things before oh just like you can't put that in the bin it'll be like you can't put that that you know it's like we saw you yeah so i was literally looking at the cameras anyway i think it was a sign okay either it was it's either one of two things so it's a sign that i don't need a man in the universe is going to provide me with flowers do you know what i mean lovely lovely lovely so it's kind of like look you don't need a man like his here's 250 roses for you for free free or one's man's trash is another man exactly or it means that someone is coming in for me in the new year cut back to i'm going to be single forever it's just always about the right moment it's not just a boyfriend it's a father i'm here for any occasion i can't wait but i actually think it's a sign that i don't need a man okay because that was the universe giving me flowers like 250 because i could have put up my story and gone you know acted like they were from a boy because they were that gorgeous they were stunning let me actually just show you in the room well i'm locked in patinsia baylor solo 2026 and then they filled like six bouquets i need to know the story behind yeah i think she just thought fuck you get the fuck out of here and i thought what a diva what a diva gorgeous like incredible like you should try icon it's a shame that you can't find out who that was because i look like i'm the desperate one getting them out the bin because i've been given flowers giving like new friendship unlocked like who are you yeah you reckon and like we could be me this is them in the bin yeah so and i thought it was a great wait to see what 2026 yeah i thought it was a great omen for going into the new year i really did i like that a lot really settled me yeah sorry i was reading my question yeah um we have here so it was what's the craziest thing you've ever done for a man the good thing is that we've all learned from these things and we're not going to do these things again absolutely I once spoke to spoke in his accent the whole time he's northern and I'm southern yeah I get that yeah it's rubbing off on you yeah we adapt I accent adapt we conform we do conform I once asked a boy if he liked my name I have the most basic girl name possible do you like my name?

21:28Jane definitely Jane Jane is a nice name yeah it's a beautiful name Jane is a classic name yeah Lane always reminds me of Tarzan oh so you're right with my mum's friend Jane yeah of course yeah Jane hang in there Jane learnt the rules of rugby so I could talk to him about it I couldn't tell you the rules of rug I couldn't tell you I've not got a clue no absolutely not pretended I like his SoundCloud music SoundCloud yeah yeah no hate on SoundCloud absolutely not we've been on SoundCloud we used to have to listen to the Leroy Sanchez covers on SoundCloud we did yeah we Billie Eilish ocean ice sound yeah of course yeah my mum paint made my mum paint my room purple because it's my crush's favorite color that's giving me the fever that's definitely that's giving me 2011 it was like when I painted my room coral and teal I remember we painted that yeah we painted your room that color I remember that awful paint job that was I'm going around to Chintzy's room today to paint why would I pick I remember I was pitching and I was begging so hard for a black room because Kylie Jenner had that black wall.

22:40Those black sheets. It's kind of giving. Yeah. She had this black. She was always a blue proof. A matte black wall with a picture of lips on it. And it's all I want. I was gunning for it, but I wasn't allowed it. And I'm proud of Fiona for standing by that. Yeah. She never let me do that. I really wanted it though. I would have done that too. Well, Mariana's boyfriend, sorry to speak on other people's business. Mariana's boyfriend having to stay in Mariana's room, which is filled with those little babies. And also, you should see Mariana's room. It is. It's also haunted. Cuckoo. Yeah, of course.

23:15Of course, if you've experienced it. Yeah. And her lovely boyfriend is buying her flowers and staying in that room. King. Isn't that really nice? Keeper King. Yeah, we do like him. Okay. Let's go into the inbox. It's boy talk today, guys. Welcome back. This is good. Thanks for tuning in. We're learning. We're progressing. We're progressing. One man's trash is another man's treasure Truly

23:43Just before we get into it, quick disclaimer We are not doctors, we are not professionals We do not actually know what we are talking about This is a light-hearted space Don't take what we say literally because we could be wrong Yeah, and if there's anything serious If there's anything you feel like you're seriously struggling with Please contact a GP, a professional Because that is not us We're just girls and boys just like you We're just trying to get through life as well Not professionals Enjoy the episode

24:10Dating escapades begin In 2026 He told me he's locked in But Hinge is his most used app Good Not good at all Can you believe I followed you since the prom YouTube days Wow that's a real day one Thank you for sticking around Sarah I'm writing in because I'm in a bit of a dating dilemma and genuinely don't know if I'm overthinking or something that should actually be concerning me so some background I'm almost 29 working PR and events for a big company which makes me very very busy yeah I've been single for about five years after a six-year relationship and since then I've honestly done it all dating apps situationships short-term things long-term things spontaneous holidays with guys everything i'd say i'm usually pretty experienced when it comes to dating i've always been really independent and focused on my career and friends after a slightly long toxic relationship when i was younger i've never been desperate for a boyfriend i've just been enjoying my life that said over the last couple of years i've been more open to the idea it just hasn't really worked out yet So at the start of December, I started speaking to a guy from Hinge.

25:30Nice. Brian. Okay. 31. Okay. Oh, lovely. And after a couple of days chatting, we went for drinks. I like that. Couple of days. Yeah. Nice. We've got momentum. We're moving forward. He's a teacher. He's efficient. He's on the clock. He's up for work. Absolutely. Five days a week. He's got six weeks off at summer. He likes children. He's passionate about educating children. Absolutely. I get on with most people So sometimes I find it hard to tell Whether I like someone Or just get on with them Because you know I'm quite a good talker That's a good thing to consider ladies actually Yeah that's true actually It's like of course Of course I had a good time I'm nice Yeah And I'm funny And I'm good So yeah exactly Yeah Did I just send you on my own company Exactly Or what Did I just make him laugh the whole time Yeah And have a good time Yeah After the first date If I'm being honest I wasn't 100 % sure Yeah sometimes it can take a few dates though because nerves play a part men can actually be nervous too yeah however straight away he asked if I wanted to see him again which uh you know said he was really excited about seeing me again and asked when I was free okay we appreciate that from the teacher yeah that alone felt very different to what I'm used to because I've dated quite a few pricks so to have this upfront you know positive attitude was nice the following weekend another date mini golf a bar I got quite drunk ended up back at his with the teacher night tonight let's go he then drove me an hour home the next day which i thought was really sweet he did not go to school must be weekend friday night of course saturday just got some just got some essays to mark you know a few homework bits to do bit of prep for next week some planning yeah i have got parents evening next week so i'm just gonna make me next really nice feeling you know when you're dating someone and they're actively being like before the dates ended you're already asking to see me again and he's not confusing you he's saying i like you i want to see you again like that's no confusion oh he must like me of course it does the next week i just remembered the title of this episode oh shit yeah the next weekend we went on another date and i stayed at his again he had work early the next morning but i stayed at his whilst he was there.

27:48Wow, that's a real advancement. Yeah, skipping girlfriend. And when he got back in the afternoon, we went out for food. He even mentioned potentially doing something together for New Year's Eve, which I didn't end up doing. After that day, I realized I was actually starting to like him. It felt cozy, intentional, comfortable, in a way I haven't felt in a while. He's also way more attentive than other people I've dated. Planning, checking in. Yeah, he's got that teacher gene. Yeah, he's a caretaker. Of course. Absolutely. He's an acts of service kind of guy. Oh. He also made a passing comment about being locked in with me.

28:25Okay. I know men chat shit, but his actions felt consistent with what he was saying. Okay, Professor. The next time we saw each other was Boxing Day. Wow. That's pretty serious. That's quite intimate. Very. Not family day? Yeah. He'd gone to the shops the day before, asked me what I liked. He went to the shops on Christmas Day? Christmas Day. Shops aren't open on Christmas Day. maybe a tesco express closed christmas day closed tesco express you gotta make sure you got your food delivery i don't know if that will be running yeah it would be of course i know tesco is closed on christmas day okay yeah thanks for that asked me what i liked bought food snacks and pudding that reminds me someone tried to deliver a pizza to my house last night i almost took it but i thought it's bad karma no he literally handed me it and i was like uh i don't think i've ordered one and he was like oh what kind of pizza i didn't open it it's a huge large pizza oh you could have took that that was just a it was just a type i'd already have my tea but well i thought what if it's the neighbors and then i'm just like taking that yeah yeah you'd have to ask it wouldn't sit right on my conscience i don't know my neighbor so i could just took it perks uh we actually attacked someone in the world she didn't attack someone came out the lift as we We were leaving.

29:40We need to get her under control. Blueberry? Yeah. Oh, my God. She barks at everyone and everything now. I don't know if you can train that. She doesn't strike me as a yappy dog. Oh. I know she's been howling recently. You should see her. That's been new to me on FaceTime. Yeah. She's like a wolf in there. Oh, don't. It's not going to start it. Yeah, but she's a real... I need to get the train around. I mean, she's still a baby, isn't she? She's still learning. Okay. I was realising I started to like him He said about the fact that he was being locked in Boxing day he went to the shops We ate, watched films and spent the next two days together Where's family?

30:20I guess family days are over However This is where things slightly shifted On boxing day I noticed on his phone That Hinge was his most used app So I know where she spotted this you know when you go on your phone yeah and then you go down to search and it's a series suggestions that is what you're tapping on the most you see here can't be it is because like that's what like yeah i've just been on cap cut i've checked my steps that's that's my recently tapped that's not why i'm on the most that's my recent well exactly that's his recently tapped then oh yeah so it's like you've been on that today or whatever because yeah look i've been on the cameras i've been on find my friends because i look where you were of course i must have been on health to see if i got any steps in and i've been on cap cop today i've been on slack yeah she's working flow oh just need to check a few things of course mail and jump nice because it's very accurate yeah okay okay it is a it is like that's the last so that must be what so he'd been on it we've been together for three days straight hinge was number one yeah that means he's just been on it yeah that's his last tapped app oh my god sorry I'm shouting at the time I didn't say anything yeah that's how I'm like that I kind of just take it in we'd only technically seen each other four times even though those times have been quite long and intense yeah and also like I'm sorry if you're going out to work look, I'm staying at your place and I'm at your place when you come home.

32:01But do they just think, they just think. That doesn't, that counts as more than one date. Yeah, but yes. It's Boxing Day. And to us, we would be like, oh my God, this is like a girlfriend. Girlfriend. But obviously to them, it's just like, oh, convenience, she's still going to be there. I can shaggle when I get back. Oh my God. We're going to go think like a boy sometimes. Oh Jesus. And then it's just, you know, oh, I'm so locked in. I'm so locked in. Will you just chat and shit then? We chat and shit. Yeah. So you're looking at Sarah, Susan and Jane on Hinge. Classic Jane. And Shane. Shane's a threat to us all.

32:33I bet Shane. I bet Shane. Yes. I wouldn't be surprised. We can't roll it out. Roll it out. You cannot roll it out. We can't roll it out. Absolutely. Okay. I was thinking, okay, we've just spent two days together over Boxing Day. Surely the next time I see him, it won't be there anymore. Yeah, because Stuart's Boxing Day is a big significance. Huge. To him, he's thinking, I've got no one to see. I might as well get Helen around. I told myself that if it was still like that next time, I'd have to say something. Honest serious suggestions. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I also felt a bit stuck because in fairness, we hadn't had any conversation around other people being exclusive.

33:10You know, really, it's only been a month. So it did feel like a bit of a gray area on what actually are the rules here. Fair. Between Boxing Day and New Year's Eve, I kept catching myself spiraling. So it begins. You know, I think. let's not let men make us spiral in 2026. If he went quieter in the evening, my brain jumped to, is he on a date with someone else? Oh, he's out with Jane. Jane's going to haunt us. Jane's our new villain of 2026. Jane's our new villain. Yeah, Helen's out, Jane's in. Yeah, Jane's in, defo. I'd say I'm usually pretty chill, but something about this really triggered me.

33:51I hate to admit it but I even went through some of the oh oh no what see what has he made us do now going through the girls he's following on Instagram to see what pictures he'd been liking and there were quite a few where he'd only liked their most recent posts from a few days prior which then made me think they were recent followers and once you start thinking like that it's a slippery slope anyway so like your love bubble is slowly bursting Yeah, because now we're checking who is following. Is it going up by a few? Oh my God. Yeah, we're in that territory, aren't we? It's gone up by one today.

34:28Who is it? It's Jane. Fucking bitch, Jane. Jane the pain. Fast forward, Elaine the pain. No. Fast forward to New Year's Day. He picked me up from the station. We got back to his. Okay. Got into bed. Watched Stranger Things finale. Okay. Quite bonding. I lay on his chest. He goes on his phone. What do I see? No. Hinge. Still. Very sloppy from him. Very sloppy. Still number one. Joking. So I'm thinking, fuck. But, you know, trying my best to focus on the Stranger Things finale while I'm internally spiraling. Also, now I feel sick. I heard that was important, that finale. Wait a long time for that.

35:05He's one of those people who always closes his apps, never has loads of tabs open. I'm the opposite. I have about a million. About an hour later, he swiped upon his phone to check the football and he had three apps open. The second one was Hinge. I think he might have clocked that I might have seen it Yeah Because he kind of subtly swiped it away Left the others open and locked his phone Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah At that point I felt genuinely sick Yeah He had food in the oven And I was panicking about how to bring this up Without turning it into an argument And me wanting to leave I wasn't expecting But we want to leave Yeah, like I'm getting my clothes back on And I'm getting that Chicken culottes Cutlets Chicken culottes It's because I said culottes earlier I wasn't expecting to have this conversation so early in the evening.

35:54And I honestly couldn't think of anything worse than having it while sitting over dinner. Yeah. And also it's boring. Like you're not even my boyfriend yet and I'm having to bring these things up. And I'm having to pull you up on something. Yeah. I completely shut down. For about 20 minutes, I was giving one word answers, which is very unlike me. I kept going to the toilet to text my friend thinking I was going to cry. Eventually he asked if I was okay. Oh gosh. I didn't respond and just carried on flipping the halloumi on the hop. Oh God. Oh God. Oh God. Oh, I can picture you now, Sarah. I know, Sarah.

36:28Like 10 minutes later, he asked what was wrong. He knows what you've seen. Yeah. And I said, you. Get it. Whoa. Get it. Yes, Sarah. I do kind of think he knew what it was about. If that were me and someone was mute and said you, after asking what was wrong, I would be like, you know, what have I done? Tell me. but instead he kind of avoided it which was a bit sus when we sat down to eat he tried to carry on a normal conversation asking me loads of questions about New Year's Eve which I was barely responding to it was so awkward so he's clearly a brush under the rug type of guy he's not wanting to face it because he knows what you've seen and he knows you're upset and he's trying to brush it under the rug and to be honest he's probably thinking can't be fucked to deal with this don't need this lot well he's thinking I've just matched with Jane yeah I'm gonna take Jane out she's message me now Wow.

37:17He's thinking Jane wouldn't give me this. Jane wouldn't give me this. She seems super blessed. Jane would, you know, Jane would cook the hilly me naked and like, you know, like suck my willy like right now. Eventually he said, are you going to tell me what I've done then? You know what you've done. So I looked up the courage and said, do I have any guesses? He said no. Always lying. After a bit of back and forth, basically me waiting to see if he'd admit anything. I finally said that it didn't make me feel great seeing Hinge popping up on his phone or I meant to be having a nice time together literally in his bed.

37:50He kind of stuttered and initially said he wasn't on Hinge then said he'd only been opening it out of habit and wasn't talking to anyone or swiping. And are we meant to believe you? Why would I believe you? I told him I don't believe that because if it's your most used app that doesn't just happen accidentally. And also I saw you panic and close the app I'm not fucking stupid. Don't try and flip it on. Don't try and, no. I told him I didn't want to be a placeholder while he was looking for someone else. Nice. That's a good line. I like that. He said he didn't want that either. He was really enjoying getting to know me and exploring what was going on.

38:25I said, well, you don't see Hinge on mine. So how does that explain yours? He asked me about my dating apps. I told him I'd paused Hinge. He then said he'd pause his right now. Yeah, but. And what? Okay, okay, okay. But you just told me you're not going on it and it's just like a habit thing. And now you'll be like, so now you are telling me that you are active on there. I said I didn't fully believe him. He said, why would I lie? If I was still talking to other people, this would be the perfect time to tell you. That was basically the end of the conversation. It's a bit of a blur because I kind of blacked out.

38:59Since then, things have actually been fine. He's not been distant, talking about plans, but he wants to make future plans, comedy shows, blah, blah, blah, blah, cinema trips and we're planning to see each other the day after I get back this weekend because she must have been away but I don't know if I can fully shake the doubt. Realistically I don't think he told me the full truth. There's no way Hinge could be number one every time I saw him if he'd barely been on it and if he regularly closes the app and Hinge was number two he must have done it before I got there. So there's some level of lying but part of me also thinks that if he genuinely wanted to keep his options open surely he'd have just said that he was still open and not paused it at all he's got in your head babe i'm definitely not even ready for him to be my boyfriend right now i've been single for a long time and i wouldn't make that decision lightly but i still want to focus on one person and i want them to feel the same about me if i were to see hinge there again that would have to be it why is it still on his phone though just delete it get it gone it feels like taking the piss to be going to someone's house every weekend acting all cozy and coupley while they're still out there swiping and chatting to other girls i also don't want this to turn me into someone who feels like she has to check his phone or question him and i can't help but thinking if he lied about this what else could he do in the future this is the start of our relationship starting off on this situation without the hinge thing i honestly would have said he's one of the nicest guys I've dated in a really long time and I wouldn't be overthinking all of this like you know the followers and what he's up to because that's not usually what I'm like so this has really thrown me maybe it was the wake-up call he needed to get rid of hinge as it's only been a month or am I just being an idiot so my question is oh my god we've got pics oh thank god I think he's got a mustache has he got a mustache a tiny one shut up just mustache oh my god okay wait we're not finished yet oh okay what do you mean a tiny mustache it's not heavy it's light just that and a beard but the mustache and the beard is not connected okay right these are her questions yeah am i overthinking too early into the dating stage and need to relax let's take this one question at a time let's keep it short and sweet am i overthinking too early into the dating stage, do I need to relax?

41:24No. No. Don't relax. I also think - Stay alert. If you want to keep seeing this guy, I would do as he is doing and just also keep your options open. Like you keep going on Hinge and keep exploring other options. But also she just said, I feel like he is lying. Yeah. I have doubts. La, la, la. But his only positive is that he's the nicest guy I've met in a while. Number two. That's it. Am I being a mug for carrying on when clearly there was some level of lying? Unfortunately, yes, he knows he's lying and got away with it because he's still seeing you. Which everyone would at that stage. Unfortunately, I think he's thinking, oh, thank God, you know, she's still seeing me, got away with that one, phew.

42:06Like he knows that he's lying and he knows that he's done wrong and like, no, I don't like that. Should I see how his actions play out, give him the benefit of the doubt till he proves me otherwise, rather than this being a deal breaker? do men deserve the benefit of the doubt no usually not no any thoughts would be hugely appreciated this is him let's see he looks like a heartbreaker really is he really gorge zoom in please little pair of skinny sunglasses yeah a light it's giving yeah you were right on the light moustache it's giving yeah he's giving he's a man about time I love chatting to girls he's a man about time and I know a girl at every venue Yeah, he's a man about town.

42:49You're right, darling. Kiss, kiss, hug, hug. I know he's a man about town. You are so familiar with every girl in this establishment. He's a man about town. And of course, he's active on his hinge. I mean, this is Sarah. He's following new girls. Sarah's really sexy. And he's like, yeah, Sarah, you look familiar to me. I might have seen that proper picture before. You get on out of there. Yeah. You've got the red hair. Yeah. Yeah. Red hair. Red hair. You need to be in your heartbreaker or you need to just get rid of him. He knows he's lied and got away with it. Slightly more wholesome image. And he's going to, okay, that's nice.

43:20He dresses nice. Dresses nice. A pair of white trousers. This is him, family man. Okay, yeah, with the nephew. Yeah, with the nephew. Nice. Wholesome. Any more? Any more? That's it, unfortunately. The rest are of Sarah. Here's Sarah and her mate. Gorgeous. Yeah, lovely. Yeah, nice. My concern is that... What's your concern? That he's lied and got away with it. Therefore, he's going to think, ah, Sarah, I lied to her she forgave me and I got away with it I think what's happened here is naturally as I also would we've got a bit carried away here because really in hindsight like it's been a month you're allowed to if you've not spoke about exclusivity dating I would say to you yeah keep going on Hinge why are you locking down with this guy it's only been a month he's not even asked you to you've not even had that conversation Like really he's not doing anything wrong technically, but I think it's felt so much more than it is because you've had these very intense dates.

44:26Like you've been sleeping at his house. You've been staying there while he's at work. You've been seeing him on boxing day, on new year's day. Like you've been seeing him for like two days. A date's lasted two days. So I think in your head, like I would be, I would be thinking, oh my God, this is probably going to be my next boyfriend. Like it's got really serious really quickly. Like, I think he really likes me. Like he's told me this and he's told me that. And I think you've got very tunnel vision on this guy because it seemed really great. And he's been very charming. And actually - He's got the teacher earlier.

44:53He knows how to speak. He's like got the gift of the gab. He's been like very loving and thoughtful and attentive and really given you that like girlfriend experience. But really, is this just, we need to check ourselves. It's only been a month. Like I need to dial this back. He is active on Hinged. He's been liking girls' pictures two days ago. Exactly. So if you were all in, you would surely have to chat to me and say it's exclusive now. Like this could just be what this guy like does. Does. Like he's good at being a bit of a boyfriend package, but he's not actually like going to commit. Of course not, because he's keeping his options open.

45:28He's looking for Mrs. Jane. I think the only like, I think I would just sack it off now because I think you have now got the paranoia, which I don't think you can shake of, and he's check his phone. I'm going to check his followers. What's he doing? Why hasn't he replied? like is he on hinge is he on all the lovely like the rose colored glasses the rose tinted glasses have been taken off now and it's really put a downer on this whole experience with this guy and i think you either just sack it off or if you want to keep seeing him you need to open yourself back up again and not be so tunnel vision on this guy like she says she only likes to date one guy he can sit on the roster well maybe we should change it up yeah like if you want to keep him keep him on the keep you get some people in the mix to stop you being so like honed in on this guy or just get rid but because we know he's lied he's lying he tried to say i've not been on hinge like he like we know you're a liar like in that instance i know it's not what you what it's not i know it's not what you wanted to hear at the time but i imagine you would have respected it more if he was like well yeah we've not spoken about exclusivity like i kind of assumed you you were still on hinge.

46:38Like I'm still like, that's where we met. Like we've never spoken about exclusivity or like where our heads were at or blah, blah, blah, blah. Like he could have used that to actually just be honest and being like, well, yeah, it's only been a month. You would have appreciated that much more than the lies. It wouldn't have felt better in the moment. But then after the fact you could have been like, okay, like at least be honest with me about where, what we're doing here. Like I can stay on hinge if you're staying on hinge, but the, the package you were providing, the treatment you were providing.

47:06was giving me that I was going to be your wife. I don't want us to start a relationship off where we're checking whose girls, pictures he's liking and what girls he's following. That's not giving husband. No, it's not. He's what? Cut. Deadass. Deadass. He's cut. Oh, sorry, Sarah. Yeah. That's a shame. But you know, the only thing that we're still keeping him around is because he was the nicest guy we've met in a while. We'll meet another nice guy. Maybe we've just had shit guys. Yeah. Like maybe he was just the best of a bad bunch and not even really that great, you know?

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49:30okay okay Sarah here hello my ladies thank you hello my lad just want to start oh I've not read the thing help my boyfriend slash father of my child got condoms delivered to our house so that means that's actually mental you're cheating on me we've got kids he wants a stash of sex in his back pocket oh my god that is crazy for when he goes to the club how can you be so sloppy with your Amazon order yeah Like Just go Be discreet At least Just go to Tesco Just go buy them in Tesco Yeah And you're thinking What's that for? We don't use those Yeah He's trying not to spread his seed We've got a child to prove that we don't use those Isn't he?

50:22Shit Just want to start off by saying How much I love the pod and vlogs To set the scene Gosh Yeah Me and my boyfriend Have been together for nearly five years Yeah We ain't using condoms babe The time's gone We have a three-year-old son and have lived together for nearly four years. Congratulations. As you can imagine, our sex life has gotten quite repetitive. We both work hard. I'm a teacher, fellow teacher. Not fellow, another teacher. We are teachers. Fellow teachers. Absolutely. I'm a teacher and the job is so rewarding, but also hard. Yes. we have sex usually once a week which i don't think it's too bad considering the circumstances yeah right on the school night years is into the weekend get some homework tomorrow on saturday with a bang absolutely literally but as i said it it is very predictable until after a drunken night out which doesn't happen often okay he pulled oh this is what happened on the night out he pulled out an anal pearl vibrator and lube on the night out I think so when he was drunk what in the club an anal pearl vibrator wow what he just had that in his pocket in his mad bag yeah he'd been waiting he was obviously waiting for the drunken night he must have been nervous to bring it out around you oh we are at home sorry I'm thinking we're out well she said until after a drunken out we've got back it's a rarity that we've gone out and we're a bit tipsy and we're drunk the kids you know with the babysitter or the kids are at grandma and granddaddy's and we've come back and he's gone what I've got babe yeah guess what Merry Christmas like open your arsehole I've got something buzzing it's gonna go I was pleasantly surprised obviously Sarah was loving this oh nice she's thinking finally we're switching it up we're switching it up you know we're going anal as I thought as I thought about introducing things like this before brilliant so now we're aligned wow we're synergized we're finally aligned Shout out to the anal pill vibrator Yeah absolutely shout out But I didn't just think he would be interested Okay obviously now brilliant We both are interested Let's go for it Honestly I thought he would have taken the piss out of me For it okay so finally we're aligned Sexually The next morning Okay so we must have had a good time The next morning I was tidying up the packaging For it Oh so he bought it out in a box Must have When I came across condoms, they were still in the parcel from Boots.

53:01I have an implant. God, of course. Yeah, it's like we don't need to be using condoms. No, we don't need to be using condoms. No, but this is even worse. Yeah, because you've actually got an implant. Yeah. You're not even just like going out and hoping for the best. He can't even say like, oh, it's just in case. Better safe than sorry. We don't want a second. I have an implant. We've only used a condom once or twice in our relationship. I thought maybe they came in a package deal with the lube. But after searching on the Boots website, two for one, yeah, of course, like free condoms, stay safe, yeah.

53:34I came to the conclusion that they had to have been bought separately. I've now put the condoms back in the cupboard. So ladies, what do I do? Do I confront him? Put them back in the cupboard? That's where she found them, in the Boots parcel, I think. Do I confront him about it and catch him off guard, to see what he says do i wait to see if the condoms are moved you could count them idea i would you could see how many there are and we could go checking especially if he's going on a lad's night out or he's out late or something i'm so baffled because if he is cheating on me i don't know how he's doing it like we're so busy he goes to work and comes straight home every night it's a lady at work is at the office yeah jane's there he's such a home body and rarely goes out thank you ladies for your service the female race just wouldn't be the same so i need a wink that's really funny um okay so we can go about this one a few ways how did you not my question is how did you not immediately react like if you found that in the cupboard why what's this why have you got like how do you not like this is the guy you've been with for five years you've got a three-year-old like how did you not immediately question that she's obviously a processor yeah and she needs to sit on something for a while before she brings it up before she but also is he not stressing like where are they they're in this cupboard like i think that must be where she's found them and she's put them back because they were still in the boots package obviously they were in the package yeah and he's thinking that you're not going in that Packaged because that's where he was storing the anal bead.

55:18Oh my God. You know, which you'd never found before. And you were putting that away, you know, and then you found the condoms. So either, right, you know, for a fact, if you say to him, I found some condoms in the cupboard, like, what's that all about? He's just going to say, I bought them for a lad at work. Or he's going to say, I bought them for the kids at school, you know, to pass them out. We're doing sex ed this week. Yeah. Yeah. Or, oh, I bought, oh, just to have, just to have. He's going to lie, isn't he? Or we can sit back and yeah, we can count the condoms. And see if condoms. And we can see if they're being used and took out with him.

55:56Check his wallet, check his back pockets of his jeans. Oh baby, wash your jeans from that night out. You know, because he's obviously being sloppy. He's not even hiding them. I think it's best to count. So he's going to be sloppy. I think I would sit back and watch out for a couple of months and see what happens. Yeah, play the long game. Exactly, because we know for a fact he's just going to lie. And I fear he's going to say, I bought them for Stephen. Because there is a very slim possibility, if we're thinking the best of this man, there's a very slim possibility that he's gone on boots and he's in a little sex order.

56:27You know, he's got your anal beads. He's got some lube. And maybe the condoms were on sale. And he's like, oh, I'll get those. You never know. But we don't need them. But maybe he's thinking, oh, sometimes, I don't know. So he's thinking. I'm just saying, if we were thinking the best of him, like maybe he just thought, oh, I'll grab those. like you never know she might she's been speaking about her implant or whatever they may have been bought as a good to have in the cupboard one day anyone ever needs one i've got one one day we might you know she might not have her implant or we might want to use them again they're on sale i'm going to grab them they'll last for years yeah if we're thinking the best but i do think it's weird that he wouldn't be like babe should i get some condoms they're half off at the moment like why have you not told me like that you've bought because you've told me that you've bought the anal beads and the lube yeah so why are you leaving out the two for three the third package i'm scared that he's bought them as a yeah put them in his back pocket just in case with the lads but that is that is unbelievably sloppy club toilet shack i know but it's been five years and he is being sloppy he doesn't care yeah he does not care he's been sloppy he's thinking she'd never leave me and even if she found the condoms i've got a good lie like he's not even thinking he doesn't care i think play the long game then sarah i think so and just monitor them count them i think so and see if they start to disappear i agree and that's the only and if they sit there exactly for years to come then you know it was just oh you may as well grab i think fair enough if for two months let's say two months they've not been touched they've not been moved maybe put a mark on the box just so you know the positioning and exactly how they're looking in there if it's been two months has not been touched then i think you could just bring them up maybe there's some condoms in there and then maybe it's just yeah he just bought them because they were one pound 99 yeah or he's grabbing them he's pulling them out but yeah or he's got like a condom kink i don't know is he doing is he pleasuring himself with a condom i don't know i don't know i would also say like what does your gut tell you like i always think like whatever your brain first leaps to is very telling.

58:34Well, I think her gut is, we've been having kind of semi-sex for four years. Yeah. And I was shocked and horrified that he had condoms because we don't use them. Who else is using them with? That was her gut instinct.

58:49Play the long game, monitor them. Even put a little, no, he'll see the camera. Yeah. We're going to just monitor the, or you remove them from the cupboard you get rid of them and see if he buys more and see if he's no but then he's not going to say then he's going to know and then he's going to be more secretive and we're not going to know so I think leave them we're playing the long game we're monitoring or you could also you could confront him immediately if you don't want to play the long game confront him immediately and like you know when someone's this is your partner of five years like you would know if they were being awkward or weird you'd be like well you'll know if he was lying you would know so if you don't have the patience to sit on it and you want to immediately like i need to do something just ask him and just judge for yourself like what his whoa like what his reaction is and like if he's panicked or not or if he's if it feels genuine but good luck sarah i think he's gonna shit himself oh dear do you think he's been so slick with his beads and his you know lube that's just so sloppy though like that is so far from slick but all men who they're so sloppy I just don't want to think the worst of him just yet I know I mean but it's not it's not a good sign no it's not it's giving you what to be promiscuous out there

1:00:20okay next one speaking of potentially cheating and oh god secret not so secret condom doms does it count as cheating if i felt single what have we done a day but that's okay this is a safe space i uh love you guys thank you so much i even got to see the christmas special yeah i knew my time for a dilemma would come at some point and here it is here we go i've been with my brian for just over two years i'm 22 and he is 27 nice on paper we're best friends we laugh loads get on really well and there is love there okay okay what does that mean what do you mean but he is the definition of bare minimum oh we went from going at it like rabbits to barely once a month yeah which from a girl with needs is not the one of course we barely go out on dates because it's only me that plans it um but when we do he makes me pay for my half of everything And he's 27.

1:01:22And you're 22. Coffee, dinner, you name it. Coffee. It's giving Monzo boy. Yeah. Yeah, it's giving Monzo boy back at it again. And it's like when you go to Nando's and he goes to the till and just orders his own. And sits back down. How bad is that? And sits back down and says, oh, babe, go get yours. Off you go, your turn now. I'll hold the table. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You go first, babe. Now for the dilemma. I've been friends with a guy for over nine years. Here we go. Let's call him Simon. Here we go, Simon. Mr. Cow Mr. Cow's in the building He has always had a soft spot for me and we've always had a flirty friendship but nothing's ever come of it until now After a massive argument with Brian I received a phone call from Simon asking to meet for a long overdue catch up The argument you asked The timing of that is beautiful We went to our friend's party Before we even got there he offered to drive so I could drink but only if he could drive my car because he didn't want to use his fuel.

1:02:22Her boyfriend. That was the argument that they had. He said, I'm going to try, but I need to use your fuel. Yeah. Granted. I did throw some fucks into him and it became a pretty heated argument. We both said some silly stuff, but he topped it off by saying he only stayed with me until now. Oh, no, no, no. This is now getting traumatic. No, no, no. Because my dad died and he felt bad. Wow. Throwing that out in an argument like that. How fucking disgusting. Dare you. This should have been enough for me to run, but obviously my favorite color is red. I understand. It's a good line. He didn't message me for a week.

1:03:05And whenever I tried to reach out, he told me he didn't want to talk to me. You don't want to talk to me. Oh, well, it is over then. That is fine. that to me that is the end of the relationship you can do whatever you want we've broke up right so out of rage I met Simon the night after the party I feel that is absolutely warranted and fine and yeah we definitely caught up yeah we did and the worst part I didn't feel guilty you're a single girl you are single you're well and truly single girl he said that last line we never come in back from that he said that last line and he's not spoke to you in a week we're over I tried to move past it and make things work with Brian which we did for two months we even had a fair amount of sex so I really thought we were back on track.

1:03:47Oh, we see. Until he randomly deleted every picture of me off his Instagram. How old is he? He's 27. Grow the fuck up. When I asked why, he said, you can't blame me. I don't know how but you just make me feel like doing it and it's staying like that. Who the fuck is this prick? Do we have a fucking picture of this twat? Do we have a picture? Yes. Thank God. Oh my. I'm going to go and troll him. Wait. On my fake account. I'm going to go troll him right now. Oh my God. I actually am. Oh my God. what a fucking can i see him now this is the type of guy no wait this is the type of guy we've still got a mustache babe we've still got about eight paragraphs has he got a mustache i'm trying i'm not i'm not sure yet which guy is which all right oh my god wait what a fucking loser i'm sorry who the fuck does he think he is simon is way more attractive than brian of course he is like the fact that brian's got the cheek to be acting like that is ballsy what the fuck brian's also the kind of guy he thinks he's got it he thinks he can do and say whatever he wants but you're gonna you're about to wake the fuck up he's the kind of guy that you could never nasty like he would make any argument your fault yeah and if you went to him with something where it was like you've upset me because you've done this it would then just come back to me and end up i'm now apologizing when actually i came to you in the first place because you upset me this is the kind of guy that brian is yeah he's steven demarco that tell me lies tell me lies this will mean i need to watch sorry i need to watch you do need to watch okay so you kind of were trying to move past it but he then deleted his you off his instagram side note i genuinely don't believe brian would ever cheat on me not because he's perfect i think he would i think he's got i think he's capable he doesn't look like he can oh oh he's not got the options then no he's not well endowed is he he has not got the options oh i see that's why he's so angry he's so angry because he's so jealous of you because you're gorgeous and he knows that you could get any guy you want and he can't get any girl he wants he can barely bother to have sex with me so how would he go out of his way to get it anywhere else i told him if he wants to act single online that's fine just be single in real life he said Okay.

1:06:00Yeah, fuck off, you fucking loser. And then again, we didn't speak for a week. He's a fucking loser. During that week. Yeah, because in that week, he realizes he can't get any other girl. I saw Simon. Nice. Of course you did. Once again, he put on an absolute performance. Mr. Cowan, he's really playing out back. He made me feel wanted. Good. And straight up told me I'm with the wrong person. Good. But you're not even with him. He said he wants to be single. Which brings me to where I'm really stuck. You're not stuck. Oh, no. She needs some help. I actually want to be with Brian. You don't, Sarah.

1:06:37You don't. He's Steven DeMarco's in your head. He's a master manipulator. That's why I tried to make it work. Especially because I know Simon is a bit of a player. Simon looks like a player. Yeah, but Simon's different. Simon's not you can change Simon yeah Simon wants you forever I can't shake the feeling that with Simon I might just be one of many but he constantly calls me asking to see me asking how I am tell me how good I look and makes it very clear he wants me but you want to be with someone who's going to like verbally abuse you but at the same time Brian clearly doesn't want to be with me we only live 20 minutes away from each other and I see him maybe once a week we are not together when I tell him I want to see him more or explain how I'm feeling.

1:07:23He tells me he doesn't care and that I'm starting an argument for nothing. And you still want to be with this man? It's fascinating. Wait, wait. It's fascinating. She says, I want to be with Brian. It's fascinating. He is just saying, I don't give a fuck about you. I don't give a fuck about you. What the fuck? Also, after that dad comment, you cannot be with this guy. I'm being dead serious. I think maybe you've got a trauma bond. I'm going to step in. I think you might have a trauma bond. Yeah, because he was there for you in that time. Because he was the guy that was there for you during that awful time.

1:07:54He's literally saying the nastiest things. You can't even have a conversation with him. I know. I was just joking. It's so... He said, I don't care. ...fascinating what love can do to you. I need to see a picture of this man right now. I'm so excited. Am I settling because Brian is comfortable and familiar? Yes. Yes. Yes. He is an ugly, nasty piece of work. It sounds like I've not seen a picture of him. I also think, Sarah, that you have got so accustomed to this awful... cycle treatment yeah and the cycle of it that you have convinced yourself that this is what every relationship's like and this is normal it's so steven de marco you're like you have been with this man for two years and we're going through these toxic cycles of big arguments not speaking to you for a week you always probably break the no contact and go in with the apology like it's always your fault you have got you have normalized this so much in your head that i genuinely don't think you realize how horrible your relationship what it's doing to you he's so nasty piece of work he is yeah he's a nasty piece of work he's so nasty he makes you pay for everything he said the things he said he said i don't even care he won't even see you he won't even have sex manipulated you to the max he's not complimenting you he said that nasty thing about your dad he's literally said he doesn't want to be with you he's literally said he was ready to see this man he said he's deleted you want to see i'm not even ready i'm literally not even ready i'm not

1:09:27and look at how look at sarah fucking sarah dare he look at sarah what's his instagram right now look at sarah model genuinely the way these ugly men can look at simon look at simon and manipulate look at simon absolutely petrifying right it's worlds apart it's worlds apart it's You need to get rid of that Brian right now He is so jealous He hates himself Right Brian He's a clear case He hates himself It's a clear case It's a clear diagnosis He hates everything about himself Therefore he's putting all that onto you Because he wants you to also hate yourself So you'll never leave He wants you to think that you could never find anyone else Yeah And he would I'm sure he says that as well Like oh you'll never find out where it's going to be And you're starting to believe it Sarah Because look at you You're saying you want to be with him He's manipulating you to the max He's nasty And he looked like, what?

1:10:17What? If he's not even got an ounce of like gorgeousness. I know. And I'm not like, no, he's nasty inside and out. You need to get rid of him immediately. Your life will be so much better when you get rid of this man. I'm being so serious. And you probably won't end up with Simon and that's fine. Simon is just the tool in order to help us realize that Brian is. I don't think you even realize what a weight this relationship is on you. like you deserve so much more and this type of like you know the way you even speak to each other is not normal like people who love each other don't speak to each other like that he's 27 as well and he's acting like that he's using your fuel and i feel like you've got a little bit of that like weird age power play where because he is like 22 and 27 is quite a big gap like especially in these like in these years like you're still figuring yourself out at 22 and i think you're with someone who's quite a few years older i think you've fallen into that dynamic of you know best like you know how this like he is treating you like you don't know shit you're a child you can't stand up for yourself and that you're like immature i bet he says you're immature and you haven't got a handle on your emotions and like all of this stuff and i think you need to break up with him immediately.

1:11:38Unfortunately, he knows that he can manipulate you and he's still and continue to do it. And he knows that he can be nasty to you and you'll still come back. And we're not, that is not happening in 2026 for you, Sarah. No, we can't. Seriously. Do your friends know about this guy? No, they mustn't know the details. You need to share it. He is evil. Evil. I've not heard a case that bad in a while. In a while. Like, not every boy acts like this, Sarah. I need you to know this. He just knows that you're way better than him and you're younger and he thinks he's 27 he thinks he can treat you however the hell he wants be so nasty to you he knows he'll never get another girl in his life because I've seen it he's not going to get anyone like you ever again of course not and he knows that and that's where he's trying to make you hate yourself so that you don't leave and you stay it's actually working unfortunately yeah and you crave his validation yeah and his like praise we crave him like wanting to be back with us and he thinks he's going to delete you off his Instagram when he's going to manage to get girls on his Instagram.

1:12:37I don't think so. I don't. I definitely don't think so. But that's not a reason for you to stay with him, Sarah. You need to try and imagine if your friend told you this, you would be like, what the fuck? No. Like, I know your emotions are involved and it's a lot more complicated, but you really need to try and see this for what it is. You cannot excuse this evil behavior. Pure evil. And it's not normal. You need to watch Tell Me Why, Sarah. You'll be having big arguments and not speaking for a week. And only seeing you once a week. We live 20 minutes away. This is not a happy... You don't feel good about this relationship.

1:13:13How does this man make you feel? Do you feel like adored, cherished, praised, celebrated, championed? That's why I was seeking out Simon. No. You feel shit, worthless, probably making you feel insecure, probably ripping apart your personality and your appearance. What? Exactly. but we still want to cuddle him at the end of the night no no no no no you've got this Sarah you know what you need to do he has to go he has to go he has to be gone and we need to watch Tell Me Lies apparently no you do because it will open your eyes to the toxic man where can we watch it Disney Plus oh nice okay yeah you need to watch it one season two season how much have I got it just two seasons third season's out tomorrow babe oh nice it just shows you a toxic master manipulator man on the screen right there in front of us and we can see him manipulate in action.

1:14:04And it's fascinating how he gets, how he does it, how he gets away with it. It's fascinating. It's like the men on Temptation Island. Worse. Death's involved. Oh my God. Yeah. He's crazy. Okay, I'll be tuning into that. Yeah, you must. Sarah, you've got this. We believe in you. Yeah, please get rid of that man. Everyone's behind you. We need a star of the week now. We need to live spirits. Absolutely. And we've got a good one here. Star of the Week this week We've had quite a negative man episode today We need Star of the Week But we've got here Brian got me a puppy to cure my homesickness See Sarah You see what you could have right This is why Star of the Week is important To restore the faith in the species And it helps me out also Hi girls, love the pod, love you both You have both always kept me company In my long car journeys When me and my Brian were long distance And now listen to you both every Wednesday as I set up my classroom the third teacher in the room oh my god wow it's really popping off in the well we're back at school now you know I guess yeah but can you imagine the talk in the what's that room called the staff room I know it's crazy that's why they're always so secretive in there yeah I would like to nominate my boyfriend Brian for Brian of the week since moving in with my Brian's family I've been really struggling we met when I was at uni and because he's from Carlisle and I'm from Durham one of us had to make the move Twilight.

1:15:30While we save for our house. I moved in with his family, which was a huge change for me. I'm extremely close with my family back home and grew up in a busy household. I'm one of four on a farm surrounded by people and animals. Goals. Living in a much quieter house with just Brian and his mum and no pets has left me feeling very homesick and upset at times. Brian noticed how much I was struggling. And even though his family have never had a dog in their house before, he agreed that getting a puppy would help me feel more settled and at home. that's really nice that decision meant so much to me the Dachshund puppy we got I love Dachshund has brought me so much comfort and happiness I've named him Wallace Wallace that's beautiful shout out Wallace and shout out Brian has a picture of the three of us from the day we got Wallace which I've attached oh my god we're a family of three and it means the world to me Brian's kindness and understanding and willingness to step up outside of his comfort zone during such a difficult adjustment truly shows the kind of person he is I love him very much and genuinely believe he deserves the nomination.

1:16:29He deserves that well and truly. I love him. Also, Chinsia, does Blueberry feel like your biological child? Because Wallace does. Love from a dog mom, Sarah. Oh, dog moms unite. Shout out dog moms. Shout out. Oh, thank you, Brian, for getting our Sarah dashing. We appreciate that. Considerate. We appreciate that. We love you, Wallace. A considerate king, hey? We love that. Oh, we love that. Right, guys, thank you so much for tuning in this week. Thank you for being here in January. If you have any dilemmas, please email them to hello at thegirlsrathering.com. follow us on instagram tiktok and youtube where we can find us thank you and we'll see you on monday if you're on patreon the group chat if not we'll see you back here next week bye

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