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18 Aug 2026 · 56m · 28 chapters

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Boy Talk: He says HER name in his SLEEP!!!

In short

Relationship advice and “boy talk” dilemmas, including sleep-talking red flags, ex/“casual” situations, and how to handle insecurity and communication. The episode also includes banter about beauty/sleep products, drought/river-cruise stories, and “question of the week” arguments.

Guests

No named guests appear in the transcript. The episode is hosted by the pod’s regular hosts (referred to as Drew and “girls/boys” voices), plus multiple listener-submitted dilemmas read on-air.

Key claims

  • If your partner is avoiding you, going out without notice, and repeating a specific woman’s name in sleep, it’s a major red flag.
  • If you sleep with an ex and he won’t define the relationship or take you on dates, it’s likely casual and could repeat past heartbreak.
  • Asking for photos or retakes can trigger arguments due to insecurity.
  • Moving in can reveal “true colors,” and waiting helps.

Notable examples

  • “Brian” hides female items (pregnancy tests, tampons, nail polish) at an afterparty; friends debate whether to tell “Sarah.”
  • “Sarah” fears she’s falling for “Brian” again after intense sex, but he never discusses intentions.
  • A listener’s husband “says” “Helen” in sleep after a “naughty dream,” alongside increased going out and avoidance.

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Chapters

1:39

Discussing Disgusting Dreams

The hosts share their reactions to a friend's embarrassing stories and sleeping habits.

“And you heard him say, oh my God, this is so specific.”
2:58

Breakfast Talks and Good Grain

Engaging conversation about breakfast choices and overnight oats.

“And they actually DM me saying, after we slandered them.”
5:22

Weather and the Drought

A lighthearted discussion on the current weather and drought conditions.

“On a reel, like talking about the environment, we actually need some rain, babes.”
7:49

River Cruises and Travel Plans

The hosts share thoughts on travel experiences, particularly river cruises.

“yeah well happy Wednesday when was I on a river um I've been on the Uber boat several times it's my favourite mode of transport I've never been on a neighbour boat.”
9:30

Relationship Arguments and Dilemmas

The hosts discuss classic arguments in relationships and dilemmas faced by couples.

“I need a break, Rosie, my jaw hurts She can't play the word game today She's in jaw pain What's a question that's guaranteed to start an argument with your Brian?”
14:00

Supporting Friends Through Bad Relationships

Learn about the complexities of supporting friends in difficult relationships.

“And it does unfortunately take two years to realize how twatty of a twat you're with.”
15:00

The Two-Year Relationship Rule

Explore the idea of how long it takes to truly know someone in a relationship.

“But it's usually when I've got a bad feeling about the guy.”
16:27

Navigating Life Choices: Travel vs. Career

Discuss the dilemma of choosing between a carefree life in Australia and a structured career.

“to fully show and you can see them for who they truly are.”
17:33

Dilemmas in Moving On

Consider the implications of revealing past relationships to new partners.

“Just before we get into it, quick disclaimer.”
18:11

The Night Out Scenario

Recount a night out that reveals secrets and hidden relationships.

“We are coming to you live from a man's house and he's hiding all evidence of his girlfriend.”
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19:19

Uncovering the Truth About Brian

Investigate the signs indicating a new romantic interest has a girlfriend.

“So that's exactly what we're doing She has started talking to this boy on our night out Whose afters we are at Yes, nice So it's like, do you want to keep the party going ladies?”
21:45

Deciding Whether to Tell Sarah

Weigh the moral dilemma of informing a friend about a deception in her new romance.

“when these men you meet on nights out, whatever they think they can be, whoever the fuck they want.”
24:59

Revisiting an Ex: A Complicated Situation

Explore the emotional intricacies of rekindling a romance with an ex.

“I'm sleeping with my ex and it's too good to stop.”
28:01

Reconnecting with Brian

Discussion about Brian's return and mixed signals in their relationship.

“It's like, I was going to buy you this more.”
29:05

Navigating Feelings and Affection

Exploring the resurgence of feelings and affection towards Brian.

“slept together stayed the night great time well we've not been out for this meal yet have we have Have we hit that spot in Bristol we were speaking about?”
29:52

Concerns About the Future

Discussing the implications of their relationship and Sarah's fears.

“Whereas I have a stable job, nine to five, enjoy my books in bed by nine, and ideally would like to settle down in the next couple of years.”
31:04

Understanding Brian's Intentions

Analyzing Brian's intentions and the nature of their relationship.

“But I am so scared Brian is going to break my heart again five years later.”
33:07

The Need for Clarity

Emphasizing the importance of clarity and communication with Brian.

“It's like we were in a relationship with this guy and we know what happened last time.”
34:36

Navigating Relationship Dynamics

Discussing strategies for handling the complexities of their relationship.

“I know, but it's like, we need to find out now or we need to get out now.”
35:37

Expressing True Feelings

Debating how to express feelings to Brian and the risks involved.

“I guess it depends how tactical you want to be.”
36:55

Sleep Talking and Intuition

Discussion about sleep talking and how it relates to intuition.

“We're in the house, but it looks even more fucked.”
39:06

Signs and Signals in Relationships

Exploring the signs and signals in relationships and the impact of intuition.

“So, I think this man's sleep talking Same Okay Love that I sleep talk most nights Yeah but you But this guy he fessed up in his sleep Oh Are you revealing your deepest darkest secrets?”
42:01

Dreaming and Sleep Talking

The hosts explore the consequences of sleep talking about another person in a relationship.

“Now we snuggle on a raft and drift for endless hours.”
43:31

Navigating Trust Issues

A listener shares her anxiety over her boyfriend's behavior and sleep talking about another girl.

“help yeah yeah i've never had anything like this happen before but in his sleep around a week ago he had and what i can only describe as a naughty dream about a girl that wasn't me Like, did he come in his sleep?”
47:25

Wedding Disasters and Friendships

Discussion about a disastrous wedding speech and the implications for friendships.

56:00

Discussion on Boy Dynamics

Exploring the challenges of relationships and male friendships.

56:42

Star of the Week: Rodney

Celebrating Rodney, a hardworking chemical engineer, and his dedication.

“digicam is that i don't know but it's amazing everything's popping it's great oh my god so can you let us know your digicam please seriously i'm actually like wow by this image i know i would Make that my screensaver.”
58:53

Incorporating Rodney into the Roster

Discussion on adding Rodney's name to their list of iconic names.

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1:45Jennifer Duran: What? And you heard him say, oh my God, this is so specific.

1:50Sophia Matveeva: He's like, ejaculate in his fucking boxers or whatever. Oh my God. That is disgusting. That is actually disgusting.

1:56Jennifer Duran: Oh, I would be so mortified.

2:06Jennifer Duran: Three, two, one. You would think it's a winter's day.

2:09Sophia Matveeva: Look at me. Cozy blankets. I'm loving. I feel really at home. Really at peace. Really at home. That's good. I've drank a full smoothie. We are hydrated. A full strawberry matcha from home and quarter of my way through my water. You know what I had this morning? I'm juiced up, if you will. It's going to make you gag. Really?

2:29Jennifer Duran: But I'm back into them. Good grain. Good grain. Good grain. Grain.

2:36Sophia Matveeva: That doesn't make me gag at all.

2:38Jennifer Duran: I thought you hated them now.

2:38Sophia Matveeva: No, you hated them.

2:40Jennifer Duran: You hated them too. No, I didn't.

2:42Sophia Matveeva: You said the bananas made me ugh. Yes, yes. You were dry heaving at the bananas. You really hated it.

2:48Jennifer Duran: No, I hated it. I'm still open to them. I said, I just need some time. No, let me clear my name.

2:52Sophia Matveeva: Because I actually bought the new brownie batter one, but I never had it. It's sat on my fridge. It's still sat on my fridge. We're out of date by now. Yeah, got to be quick. And they actually DM me saying, after we slandered them. Well, they DM me too. Well, actually, they DM me first.

3:05Jennifer Duran: They actually DM me first. They're actually sending me a box. I said, no, don't, because it goes out of date. I can't eat it quick enough.

3:10Sophia Matveeva: When we slandered them about the banana, they sent me a DM saying, should we send you some more? I never replied.

3:18Jennifer Duran: Well, you should watch your mouth.

3:19Sophia Matveeva: Yeah.

3:19Jennifer Duran: Go on and speak to me then. Which ones are you eating then? I'm just back in. Listen, it's only been two days.

3:25Sophia Matveeva: If you don't know, good grain are these jars of overnight oats, where they go out of date like that. And I was having a few which had big chunks of banana in. Yeah. That were making me. And so was I.

3:34Jennifer Duran: So was I. Yeah. Because they have like chunky nut, chunky monkey, banana oats. The matchy one I like. The Perfect Tech Collab. I like the matchy one to have got that one in my fridge. But it goes out of date today. I need to eat it today. Yeah. But they're just great on the go. Breakfast. I bought one in my bag. Had it on my way here. I'm just back into it. It's nice having a breakfast that I know is there. Because breakfast always stumps me. I never know what to do. Sorry. Whoa. Yeah. It's a bowl of Weetabix or I'm like, hmm. Yeah. You're right now. She's not sure.

4:12Sophia Matveeva: We need some more. We need some more water. Well, I've been, yeah, I'm on smoothies. o 'clock you know a lovely matchup for me and a lovely smoothie that will do me great um but yeah obviously not hitting no protein but who gives a shit like we don't need that much protein you know because i know i know a lot about sports and nutrition science absolutely you know obviously i'm at the age you know i'm 20 almost 29 now and you know i've got a lot of wisdom for tea

4:43Jennifer Duran: it's plenty how much do we need I'm now on mercury poisoning alert oh you're fine I am terrified of getting I'm having two cans of tuna a week Sophia you're fine that's it I've already had a can this week and I'm like you've had a can now

4:56Sophia Matveeva: I used to have two cans of tuna every single night for about six months so did I I was having rocket tuna salad

5:01Jennifer Duran: so was I but we must have been on the verge of mercury poisoning well that's us we are here live and direct

5:06Sophia Matveeva: it's the middle of August super cool we are kind of bracing ourselves for the September the impact of September. The September chill, if you will. Yeah, but if anything, I get ready for it. Somewhat, somewhat. We need to get out of this drought. Kind of, yeah, we need rain. On a reel, like talking about the environment, we actually need some rain, babes. Speak on it. It's not rained in a long, long time. Should I actually check out long? Actually, to be fair, it did rain a couple of weeks ago.

5:33Jennifer Duran: It had a tiny, tiny downpour. Very quick, very sparse.

5:36Sophia Matveeva: Are we in a drought? also I was watching a video more than two-thirds of England now is in a drought oh my god I was watching this video obviously Ben and David cruising with Ben and David yeah yeah yeah and they went on a river cruise wow I really want to go on a river cruise

5:55Jennifer Duran: that sounds romantic

5:56Sophia Matveeva: yeah it's like a smaller boat I think I'd like that I think it would too smaller boat you don't have to go to the crazy ports where like you're in the middle of nowhere like you're right in the sea because you're on the river on the boat anyway can't get seasick on a river surely there's no tide exactly it's just flat and back and obviously um well not obviously but um the river the cruise got cancelled halfway because the river was too low because obviously they're in a drought and they were stranded in vienna and they were very upset oh no ben and david yeah how did they get everyone off the boat well it was kind of like well the boat's gonna be here like we're just gonna stay in Vienna like we can't move we're not cruising and then it was like oh but we wanted to go to Budapest now we're just on a river we're not on a river cruise yeah so then they had to all get on a bus and go to Budapest because that's where everyone's flights were flying from

6:46Jennifer Duran: we've been to Budapest yeah one side's Buddha one side is Pest yeah there's gonna be people who didn't know that because we did not know that until about four days there's a lot of cities yeah

6:55Sophia Matveeva: there's a lot of cities I want to return to Copenhagen I want to go to me too really badly you know apparently the flight is only an hour so close yeah I feel like we'd love the food yes Lydia speaks about it every like she loved she loved it so much that needs to get in the diary I think we should maybe an October moment but yeah then that just made me think talking about the droughts obviously the river is too low because there's been no rain I did think the river

7:18Jennifer Duran: Thames was very very very low and I was like oh my god when you can see your yesterday really well there you go we're in droughts I said it out loud I went god the tide's low yeah well call the BBC let them know what you've seen let them know get the cameras down there do they know that the rivers are down the droughts you need to tell them

7:36Sophia Matveeva: you know you need to be a good Samaritan and tell the people spread the word absolutely make an Instagram story about that can't believe it guys at River Thames get to know get to know the tide is so low right now guys we need the rain to come get to know yeah

7:50Jennifer Duran: well happy Wednesday

7:51Sophia Matveeva: when was I on a river

7:54Jennifer Duran: um I've been on the Uber boat several times it's my favourite mode of transport

8:00Sophia Matveeva: I've never been on a neighbour boat. Very close. Why am I thinking of... Maybe you were living through Ben and David's video. Yeah, I think that's actually what it is. Because I've watched two of their river cruise videos. Back to back. But we would like a river cruise.

8:16Jennifer Duran: I think that sounds very appealing to me. Yeah, and just like the demograph is just the oldies.

8:21Sophia Matveeva: My favourite type of people. Me too. That's what I want on my holiday demographic. A sea of grey hair.

8:25Jennifer Duran: Yeah, nice, perfect.

8:27Sophia Matveeva: You know, and then they kind of look at you a bit, but it's like, whatever. It's friendly. Hiya You know But are they? They're not They're not very friendly I think if you're friendly to them They'll be friendly back Yeah Because like when me and Lydia went to Barbados It was just great A sea of grey hair Yeah it's perfect Which was lovely It's perfect But then you know Lydia's You know I guess I'm single too You know where's the you know Where are the boys at? Obviously not here Where's the eye candy? You know Some of them are eye candy Let's not get it twisted Oh okay You know We like a silver fox don't we?

8:55Sophia Matveeva: But I couldn't go near one Couldn't kiss a silver fox Could you? yeah think so could you yeah why not yeah yeah do you know what why not river cruise yeah budapest

9:11Jennifer Duran: yeah tides low stuck on the boat stranded yeah i bet you a lot wet i wonder if they're swinging

9:17Sophia Matveeva: on the river cruises i bet you they are i drove past some gardens yesterday on the big cruise ships i drove past some gardens yesterday do you know that no they're putting pineapples on their doors to let them know knock on we're swingers we'll have sex with you definitely disturb yeah

9:33Jennifer Duran: i saw some gardens yesterday covered in lawn ornaments and i was like oh my god swingers you could be swingers and there's two gardens there was two those bungalows and i was like oh my god swingers love bungalows as well because they've got bad hips can't go up and down here because

9:49Sophia Matveeva: they're using them too much they can't yeah using their hips they can't go down the stairs

9:55Jennifer Duran: Right, it's our question of the week Oh Rosie, do you want to do the word game? I need a break, Rosie, my jaw hurts She can't play the word game today She's in jaw pain What's a question that's guaranteed to start an argument with your Brian? I ain't got no energy for no arguments A classic Would you love me if I was a worm?

10:21Sophia Matveeva: Yeah, yeah, yeah Classic But then it's like, say yes. Like, why are you even going to try fire?

10:27Jennifer Duran: Wait, this is a good one. Anything starting with hypothetically. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. This girl said, have you emptied the cat's litter tray? Oh, yeah. Are you sure you want to wear that? Oh, yeah. That would not be good.

10:44Sophia Matveeva: Do not chat to me about my clothing choices at all. Is that what you're wearing? Well, obviously. Take a look at yourself, big man. like why are you tired wait wait wait so what if I said

10:57Jennifer Duran: why are you tired that was so an arg she's saying that he works a blue collar job so he's been out like manual labour all day and then like she's been at the house with the kids and she's like why are you tired like they're competing about who's more tired yes yes yes yes have you emptied the dishwasher yep I'll do it why is your mum obsessed with you and can you retake the photo? Asking to retake the photo should never be cause for an argument.

11:27Sophia Matveeva: If they're upset. It should be absolutely, madame. Yes, your highness. Absolutely, let's do this until the night is done. Yeah, if they're upset that you want to get a picture. They hate you. They hate you and they're insecure. That's for sure. That's our fact. Like seriously. That is fact. If you ask a boy who you are with, can you please take a picture of me? And it's huff, huff, huff, huff, huff. It's hate, hate, hate, hate, hate. It's like, oh, you hate me then. And that's, I mean, deadly sin. You could end a relationship. I'm looking in the lens now. You could end a relationship based on that fact.

11:59Sophia Matveeva: If you asked your boyfriend to take a picture of you and he doesn't and he's huffing, I would say end that relationship right there. And you could do that. And I know that would be the right decision. I would co-sign that. Right?

12:09Jennifer Duran: Absolutely. On the dotted line in the ink. It's like, how insecure are you? Yeah. Like, we're going to do this all night, honey. Yeah. Honey. Honey. I want you over there. I want you over there. I want you there. super zoom let me see it no again like you've got a hot piece of kit here who wants a picture yeah and you're gonna enjoy every second

12:26Sophia Matveeva: if he wanted to finger up his bum during the deed oh so he would argue so he doesn't want a finger up his bum oh that's a no then where shall we spend Christmas this year oh let's just you go to your family I'll go to my family I don't even wanna go to your family home let's just part like the Red Sea yeah can you scratch my back oh and he argued what break up with him Sarah

12:46Jennifer Duran: some people what shall we have for dinner

12:48Sophia Matveeva: You have your own dinner. I'll have my own dinner. I'll sort my tea out. You sort yours out. Why have you hung the washing out like that? Yeah, fair. Do you love me? Fair. Who's a better driver? Yeah. Why do you follow this Insta model's name? Oh my God. But also like, don't argue. I'm going to break up with you then. Don't argue with me about that. Saying, do you fancy her to any singer or actress he likes? Yeah, fair. Yeah. did you sleep with her oh ignorance is bliss i know but sometimes you when are you proposing oh why are you liking girls instagram pics oh this is actually a

13:31Jennifer Duran: nightmare this feels like a bad omen for the start of the episode yeah i'm not sure how i

13:34Sophia Matveeva: feel that was the end of that that was the end of that i think we should move on right so how do you feel about this we've got some quick fire dilemmas is it chic to not do a pregnancy pregnancy announcement online yes very chic I think Mr.

13:51Jennifer Duran: Mysterious wardrobe won that one yes of course and of course Kylie my friend also won that one oh yeah post for like four years then just posted a picture of a baby very chic very chic hard launch we hate my besties boyfriend

14:04Sophia Matveeva: and she wants to go on double dates what do we do

14:10Jennifer Duran: we hate my besties boyfriend but she wants to go on double dates i think you should go you probably just gotta go be a good friend and listen have fun listen they always will figure it

14:23Sophia Matveeva: out one way or another that they've got a bad bad bad just a bad egg it just takes a while it like weeks me and sophia can call it straight away we'll say give them two years then then the The breakup is two years. We're professionals at that. Exactly two years later. We've seen it in other instances. We've seen it in many instances. Give it two years. Now they've broken up. Finally, they've seen the light. And it does unfortunately take two years to realize how twatty of a twat you're with.

14:51Jennifer Duran: There's one couple that we've been wrong on about that. Who? Name them. I'm going to try and give this to you telepathically. I know these people apparently. Yeah. We don't really know them. I don't know couples. But we know them. We've been in their flat. Who? Tell me.

15:08Sophia Matveeva: Oh my God. We don't know these people. They're still together. But yeah. Yeah, that's fair. But he's actually nice. Yeah, but we were convinced. True. That they weren't going to love us. That's actually true. And they're actually. So we've been wrong once. But it's usually when I've got a bad feeling about the guy. It's nothing to do with the woman. It's always the guy. I'm like, no, he's not right. Bad egg. Bad egg, bad egg. And then it's always the case. Always the case. Yeah. Try true and tested. god god forbid it's ever me one day right but i do think it takes you this is why you shouldn't move in with a boy before it's before you've been with him for at least two years because i do think it takes you at least two years for their true colors to show and come out i do and it is that

15:52Jennifer Duran: serious i wouldn't say two years actually but i do because i do think there is an element of like sometimes you actually don't really know someone until you move in yes sometimes the moving in is actually then that's why they say moving in is make or break yeah because that's when you really get to know someone and that's when it's no longer like i'm not seeing you on a sexy friday night i'm

16:14Sophia Matveeva: seeing you all week well then move in but don't buy a home with them oh yeah yeah before two years

16:19Jennifer Duran: please but sometimes moving in is like well that's the test like is it gonna work or is it not that's

16:24Sophia Matveeva: why they say it's make or break but i do think it takes you two years for someone's true colors to fully show and you can see them for who they truly are. Name that reference. When my eyes are closed, I see who you truly are.

16:38Jennifer Duran: Which is ugly.

16:39Sophia Matveeva: Do I move to Oz or be a corporate baddie in London with all of my girls? Go to Australia, babes.

16:45Jennifer Duran: Oz, Oz, Oz, Oz, Oz. I'm not even... Yochi, surfboards, Cody Simpson. Just move there. Not much wrong with Oz. Corporate baddies ain't going anywhere.

16:55Sophia Matveeva: Exactly. The corporate, it's never going nowhere. where you can always come back and do that or whatever age rat race is always running and just get the girls to also come to australia like do i tell my ex's new girlfriend that there was a crossover between us don't get involved no you're not with them anymore you've moved on not my circus not my monkeys yeah also like she's gonna find out eventually when it finally comes out when you know they're chatting about something and she then will realize i don't think i think It's just like, let's heal from that twat. Do you know what I mean?

17:28Jennifer Duran: Completely agree.

17:29Sophia Matveeva: And she will see him for who he truly are, one way or another.

17:34Jennifer Duran: Right, first dilemma. 1-800-BIACH. BIACH.

17:43Sophia Matveeva: Just before we get into it, quick disclaimer. Just to say, we are not doctors. We are not professionals. We do not actually know what we are talking about. This is a lighthearted space. Okay. Don't take what we say literally because we could be wrong.

17:54Jennifer Duran: Yeah, and if there's anything serious, if there's anything you feel like you're seriously struggling with, please contact a GP, a professional, because that is not us. We're just girls, girls and boys just like you, you know?

18:03Sophia Matveeva: We're just trying to get through life as well. Not professionals.

18:06Jennifer Duran: Enjoy the episode.

18:10Oh my.

18:13Sophia Matveeva: This is giving reporting live. Help. We are coming to you live from a man's house and he's hiding all evidence of his girlfriend. Live from a man's house? so what's happened here is Carla on line one we've been invited round to Brian's home after a night out yeah with the boys remember the boys that had the girls cupboard we liked them oh yes they were sweet the house of boys I thought that was really nice

18:38Jennifer Duran: me too I thought that was considerate

18:40Sophia Matveeva: yeah

18:40Jennifer Duran: but this man is hiding female possessions yeah

18:43Sophia Matveeva: and it's like clearly a woman lives here yeah okay that is disgusting because whose Elemis cleansing balm is this yeah that is disgusting yeah imagine help Me and my friends have just been on a night out So we are sorry if this is chaotic It's because we're a little drunk We are currently at a man's house Let's call him Brian We came for an after party for my bestie Sarah Who has just broken up with her boyfriend last week Wow, emails at the after party This must be serious It's like we're gonna keep the night going Sarah needs our support We're gonna find us one to snog You know, let's do it Sarah wanted a fun night out So that's exactly what we're doing She has started talking to this boy on our night out Whose afters we are at Yes, nice So it's like, do you want to keep the party going ladies?

19:30Jennifer Duran: Yeah, come back to mine, I'm having an afters My penthouse

19:34Sophia Matveeva: Brian and Sarah have both made it very clear that they are interested in each other We get to Brian's house I ask Brian for a house tour And I see in his bedroom a picture next to his bed Of Brian and a girl looking very cozy I look at him and he immediately looks at me and turns off the light. I then just knew. Yeah, you just knew. Is he fucking stupid or what? So I went to the loo with my two other friends, not Sarah, and we started an investigation. I looked in the toilet drawer. There is nail polish. There is pregnancy tests. There are tampons. We then snooped through Brian's room too. We analyzed his picture.

20:16Sophia Matveeva: This picture of Brian and his girl and see in his bathroom, there is blondifying shampoo so the purple shampoo the John Frieda and conditioner no Brian uses that at this point we are all like right it's confirmed Brian has a girlfriend we come back into the living room and we see another picture hidden we sneak a look and it's a pic of Brian with another girl what? he could have sisters why has he got why has he got one not next

20:47Jennifer Duran: not pregnancy tests and tambones Why has he got a picture with Helena?

20:50Sophia Matveeva: Maybe his mum's young. Yeah. I guess the one in the living room is probably family.

20:56Jennifer Duran: One in the bedroom is lover.

20:58Sophia Matveeva: Yeah, that's a lover for sure. Anyways, we are now split. I think we should tell Sarah 100%. Look. Oh, we split this after party. Yes. Oh my God, guys. But my other friend, I mean, we're not there now. Obviously. Frozen in time. It's a Wednesday afternoon. I think we should tell Sarah, but my other friends think we should keep it to ourselves that she really needs this. Right. So you're kind of. But then. Let's get out of there, girls. She needs to know the reality of men. And this is the reality of men. If we keep her in delusional delusion world, she's going to get her heart even broken even more when she finds out, when she's spoken to this guy for a month and then finds this out.

21:31Jennifer Duran: Before she goes home and starts romancing this guy and starts picturing her life with him, in that flat, she needs to know that, no, no, no, this is a girlfriend.

21:41Sophia Matveeva: I hope she knows now. Me too. I mean, I imagine, listen, when these men you meet on nights out, whatever they think they can be, whoever the fuck they want. But you're gonna... Alter ego.

21:51Jennifer Duran: Yeah. They reinvent themselves for the night. Girlfriend's out of town. Whatever.

21:55Sophia Matveeva: She's on a hen do. Eventually, I'm sure after that night out anyway, you probably found his Instagram and probably found evidence of a female. So true. Whether that's in his tag pics, in his comments, whatever. Even if she is not on the Instagram, I'm sure you could find her if you dig a little deep. If you dig hard enough. Eight swipes in the dump. Yes. There she finally is. Never put me at the bottom of a dump. Never put me at the back of the dump. Imagine I had a boyfriend and he finally posted me and I was 10th in the dump. That's so rude. That's so rude. So disrespectful. I'd rather actually not be there, I don't think.

22:31Sophia Matveeva: I'd rather not be with you. Yeah, point blank here. Because like, what the hell is that? Yeah. Anyway, you've got to tell her. Because exactly, she's going to start picturing her life with this man and then finding out a month later it's even worse. And also, this is the reality of men.

22:44Jennifer Duran: Good luck, Sarah. Poor Sarah. she'll find someone else it was one night out you went back it's not that deep it's not like she's it's not like i'm sleeping with the guy yeah like you know this is just at least you girls you dodged a bullet you did your digging you did a great job definitely tell her

23:00Sophia Matveeva: yep get out of here this guy thinks he can do whatever he wants what a knobhead

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24:59Jennifer Duran: Well, listen to this. I'm sleeping with my ex and it's too good to stop. Uh-oh. Danger zone, danger zone. Hi, girls. I'm in a bit of a dilemma and I need serious help. Backstory. My ex, we'll call him Brian. We were together briefly at uni for around six months and then he broke my heart. I won't bore you with the details. It was amicable, no bad blood, but I was absolutely heartbroken for a long time. But he broke up with you, Sarah. Yeah. flash forward five years to today i recently got out of a two-year relationship we'll call my most recent ex steve during this relationship with steve early days brian actually messaged me and asked me to hang out telling me things would be different if we tried again yada yada yada but as i loved steve i didn't entertain him at the time anyway post breakup with steve i went on a night out with friends which ended with me texting Brian saying hi deep down I've always had a soft spot for Brian and always felt like if I was single then I would want to see him again so I just couldn't help myself he always felt like the one that got away and the one I'd always find myself thinking of when certain songs played certain locations we visited and I often dreamed about him whilst in my relationship with Steve okay I actually don't hate the idea Brian now but Me and Brian got to chatting and he asked if I'd like to see him when I'm free.

26:27Jennifer Duran: A couple of days later, I was at Brian's house. It was a little awkward at first. We hadn't seen each other for five years. Yeah, he just sat on his bed with your bag on your knee. But then things just fell into place and we had the best sex I've ever had. We knew each other's turn-ons and how to please each other. And it just felt so comfortable, which I definitely would never experience with a random hookup.

26:49Sophia Matveeva: This is such treacherous waters though, isn't it? because we've slept with him straight away. If he thinks things are going to be different,

26:59Jennifer Duran: like, oh, I don't know. He was so complimentary and affectionate and I was loving it. Nice. Anyway, the next night we had sex again. Yeah, naturally. Even better than the night before. Wow. Both times I stayed the night. We cuddled. He kissed me goodbye. We're having deep chats about what we've both been up to over the past five years and reminiscing. then he went on holiday for two weeks so we couldn't meet up and i thought this would be

27:27Sophia Matveeva: the end of it do you know what we need to watch um does anyone want to marry harry oh i'm dying

27:33Jennifer Duran: to watch yeah i've seen some clips i'm dying i've literally seen it's like the bachelor quickly i've

27:38Sophia Matveeva: seen two clips last night yeah tell me he's he's snogging one girl in bed she's like i i love you literally one of them is telling him he loves her then he feels pressure to say i love you he then says i love you then in the fucking screen thing you know when he's getting interviewed like in the back room he's like shouldn't have said that like i don't mean it but i can't take that back so he's just said i love you to this other girl then this other girl pulls him then he's snogging her he's snogging them all we need to but apparently it's it's just ridiculous but we

28:10Jennifer Duran: have to watch it okay but brian started so he went away for two weeks and you thought that would be the end of it right but brian started sending me tiktoks of food spots in our area and saying that he wants to take me there.

28:23Sophia Matveeva: Okay. Positive. Do it then. Don't just say I want to do this. Do it then. Do you know what I mean? It's like, I was going to buy you this more. Diamond necklace. Yeah, yeah. Do it then. I was going to take you on a yacht for the weekend, but. I was going to take you on a lovely river cruise. Yeah, I thought we'd just have sex instead. Like mine. Yeah. Yeah. I was going to take you on a river. I just thought we'd just stay at mine and have sex instead. I bet. And get a take away. I bet, yeah.

28:50Jennifer Duran: this confused me as i had assumed we were just casually sleeping together how'd you sarah and dates you know didn't seem like it was the vibe that we were on okay anyway he got back from his holiday this week and out of five nights he's been back we have met for three of them slept together stayed the night great time well we've not been out for this meal yet have we have

29:14Sophia Matveeva: Have we hit that spot in Bristol we were speaking about?

29:17Jennifer Duran: Yeah. That TikTok you sent me. Remember that? Yeah. Yeah. Come on then. Let's see where. What's he doing then? The issue is, did you bring me anything back from your holiday? What you got in that suitcase? Yeah. Hopefully not an STD. What? The issue is, last night things felt different. I felt like we were right back to five years ago. Nervous giggling. Watching movies.

29:37Sophia Matveeva: I'm really scared, Sarah. Because we've not said, we've not, he's not said a single, like, we've not chatted about what's going on here.

29:42Jennifer Duran: so much non-sexual affection okay and I can feel myself falling for him all over again we need to just be careful right this moment okay I know Brian is not my future husband as we are at different life stages he parties regularly wants to travel the world lots and no way near ready to settle down he sounds like someone who's gonna put you ninth in the dump definitely in a group

30:12Sophia Matveeva: He's not putting you in the dump.

30:15Jennifer Duran: Whereas I have a stable job, nine to five, enjoy my books in bed by nine, and ideally would like to settle down in the next couple of years. I'm trying to remember these things whilst we're together, but my feelings get the better of me and I go right back to when I was 21 and absolutely besotted by this man.

30:30Sophia Matveeva: He's stroking your head and kissing your forehead in bed. Like, you're no better than any of us, Sarah. You're no better than me, Sarah. We're all going to be thinking the same thing. Like, this man loves us, you know? And we're all going to be... I'm romanticizing this. Yeah, we're all thinking the same thing. But the reality is, is these men just do this for fun. And then they piss off to Bali. Do you know what I mean? Absolutely. For six months. Yeah, you say it. You know, to go and fuck knows what they're doing.

30:56Jennifer Duran: Yeah. I don't know what to do. I really don't want to stop seeing him as I do really enjoy his company and the sex is amazing. But I am so scared Brian is going to break my heart again five years later. And I fear I will never recover. I also don't know what Brian wants from this. Does he think this is just casual sex with an ex? Yes. Or is he wanting to try again with our relationship?

31:21Sophia Matveeva: If he didn't think this was just casual sex with an ex, you would know. I completely agree. He would have made you his girlfriend. He would have seen you that first night and gone, I have missed you so much. I have actually loved you for five years. Will you be my girlfriend, Sarah? I can't have you not be in my life ever again. I think the fact that you don't know, the fact that you're wondering, I wonder what he thinks this is, shows you really everything you need to know.

31:47Jennifer Duran: Because, yes, like you met up, you had sex, it was great. Ideally, then it could have been like, let me take you out for dinner. Yeah, come back to mind, you can have sex, great, stay over, great. but I did and the conversation even though you guys have been catching up about the last five years I feel like you would know with the conversations of like can't believe I ever let you go like I really hope you give me like that you know if you would ever give me another

32:14Sophia Matveeva: chance like you know biggest mistake I ever made was letting you go five years ago you like I always

32:19Jennifer Duran: picture our future like I think you would feel a little and you he would be speaking about the future and you know feel that security about oh it's like maybe we should book a trip or maybe we should do this or you could leave some stuff here you know you can have a key if you want like i want this to i feel like you would even though it's very early you guys have known each other before and i feel like you would have more confidence in oh my god that he wants it this time whereas because you don't know that to me says this is just casual sex i'm really scared

32:47Sophia Matveeva: for you same and i and i think you sarah you you might need to pull back you share our same concerns i know you're concerned and like i'm but you're wanting to brush under the rug because you're

32:57Jennifer Duran: having fun it's exciting it's something new to do on a wednesday night and you're like oh my god this is gonna be fun i'm gonna go i'm gonna have some food and sleepover it's really yeah like

33:05Sophia Matveeva: that is so fun who doesn't want to do that listen i want to do that too yeah it's great i want to do that too that sounds really fun however he's made it very clear what his kind of lifestyle is he's not made it clear how he feels about you at all he's thinking i'm gonna break her heart in a couple months like i did five years ago he is actually thinking about and that this is how sick and twisted men are they act like that and will still break your heart yeah you know yes he's talking deep yes he's you know cuddling you and kissing you and put all that pillow talk and being all nice and the amazing sex but he will do that and still break your heart like they are not scared to do that when it stops feeling new he's gonna be gone yeah yeah or when all of a sudden he says I'm going to Bali for two years that was always the plan

33:55Jennifer Duran: or when he goes out on Friday and takes someone back and sleeps with someone else what's wrong with that? or when he just goes to us

34:01Sophia Matveeva: when he just stops replying when he starts going dry like I don't know I don't know how we even go about this like do we just look at the end of the day it's like we've known him for ages I feel like you can say look what the fuck is going like I'm getting feelings again and I'm just gonna warn you I feel like we can be honest in this instance because we've not just met him. It's like we were in a relationship with this guy and we know what happened last time. So it's like, actually, you do need to give me some security. And you need to -

34:31Jennifer Duran: We don't want to be asking for that though. Well, exactly.

34:33Sophia Matveeva: Exactly. Well, I know what his intention, I know that he's not. Because it's just going to be bullshit. I know, but it's like, we need to find out now or we need to get out now. Yeah. Like we need to just see what bullshit he's going to, you know, unload when we like say how we're feeling right now because this can't go on. Sarah, it's going to destroy you. You've already said it is. I know. Like I actually.

34:53Jennifer Duran: We just need to keep ourself in check big time. Like next time he invites you around, I think say no. I'm busy. Sorry. Like maybe at the weekend though. Like next time you say no. We need to just slow this down a little bit. Keep us. Because if you say no, hopefully he is then like, oh, well, what about this? Like I think unless he starts asking you on dates. Yeah. this is just like a very casual thing and if and you're not going to be okay with casual because you've got feelings like you've already said well should we just try

35:27Sophia Matveeva: and communicate to him

35:32and just

35:33Sophia Matveeva: and just say what are you going to say then I don't know just be like I'm about to fucking lose it Brian I'm about to lose about to fall deep no like I'm about to lose I'm falling in love I'm about to lose my fucking head because do you even realise what you're doing Brian like we were together this is such red flag territory and also like it's it's so unbalanced because he broke up with us we were the one left heartbroken he walked away before that means he's happy to walk away again he ain't scared of nothing he ain't scared of nothing he ain't scared of nothing honey he's got all the power right now

36:02Jennifer Duran: that's why I think that's what's not good

36:04Sophia Matveeva: no I'm busy yeah but it's like but we love him we can't say no we want to see him

36:09Jennifer Duran: we can say no

36:10Sophia Matveeva: but we're desperate right now we need to cling on to whatever we've got we don't know how long we've got left with him it's gonna break up with us in a couple weeks

36:15Jennifer Duran: oh my god he's slipping through our fingers

36:17Sophia Matveeva: It's actually panic, panic fucking stations.

36:21Jennifer Duran: I think. Yeah, I don't know. I guess it depends how tactical you want to be. Option one is you lay your feelings on the line and you say, Brian, this has been so exciting the past few weeks. Like I've been a bit of a whirlwind. It's been like, you know how I feel about you. Like it feels like old times. Like I love this and I love what's going on. And I love you.

36:44Sophia Matveeva: And I love you. And I love you Brian No don't say that You should have seen that clip Sorry I keep going back You should have seen that clip Of that girl saying I love you too I'm gonna watch it tonight Harry He's like don't say it He's like you're gonna freak me out Don't say it And then she like grabs it He's like don't say it Don't say it Don't say it He's literally like I don't love you I don't love you Then she grabs his face Strokes him and she's like I love you And then he's like Why'd you say it Why'd you say it Like no no no Like take it back Take it back And then he's like Is it Then he says it Is it Bachelor vibes when we're like in the house?

37:18Sophia Matveeva: We're in the house, but it looks even more fucked. God. Like he's like, you know how in Bachelor, like they don't start snogging. Yeah, yeah, yeah. From what I've seen, I've only seen two clips. I don't actually know what's going on. It looks like he's snogging them all. Oh my God, I'm going to watch the whole thing tonight. Like snogging them all. Wow.

37:34Jennifer Duran: I think I'm going to watch it tonight too. So yeah, I think you either be like very upfront, put your feelings on the line, lay your heart on the line. And be like, you know what?

37:42Sophia Matveeva: I don't want to be back where I was five years ago. Yeah. You either let me know now how you feel and like we move forward with this relationship or like I'm leaving because I don't want to feel how I felt five years ago when you left me.

37:54Jennifer Duran: Which you could do. But for the record, I think if you ever have to do that, it's a red flag in itself. Exactly. But we're in red flag territory.

38:00Sophia Matveeva: But he's already a red flag.

38:01Jennifer Duran: We're already sleeping with our ex who we love, la la la. Or I think if you want to go the more tactical route, it's like, I'm going to pull back and I'm going to see if you chase me. Like, no, I can't come round. Like, no, I'm busy. like oh well if you want to take me out but like when's my dinner like if you want to take me out for dinner like i can see you like or you go a bit more like that and then it's like i'm going i'm going bye bye bye bye and if he lets you go then it's like whatever you've let me go but that

38:26Sophia Matveeva: is that's tricky to do when you're feeling the way that you're feeling i want a boyfriend if you don't want my boyfriend like i'm actually gone and be gone don't then have sex you have to stand on business if you're gonna say that sex with him that night no you have to say it and mean it and and leave. Yeah. Because like, otherwise he's like, this lady's full of shit. Yeah. Like, she's going to say whatever. Of course, she's still going to come back to the nuke. Yeah.

38:47Jennifer Duran: She loves it. Here she is again. But the breakup five years ago is haunting you and it would be haunting me too. Me too. Good luck. Let us know how it goes. Me too. Yeah, please.

39:05Sophia Matveeva: Oh my God. Okay. So, I think this man's sleep talking Same Okay Love that I sleep talk most nights Yeah but you But this guy he fessed up in his sleep Oh Are you revealing your deepest darkest secrets? No Right you're just chatting shit

39:27Jennifer Duran: I'm asking to put the kettle on

39:28Sophia Matveeva: Yeah she just wants a cup of tea Hey girls I've been watching the pod and you both for a good while now Usually listening while I work from home My friends at this point are sick of hearing about my boyfriend So I've decided to turn to a neutral third party Lovely

39:42Jennifer Duran: We're never sick of hearing about boyfriends

39:44Sophia Matveeva: Myself 24 and my boyfriend 25 have been together for four years Living together for two We've had ups We've had downs Like any couples But in the past six months I've gone from stable settled girl To questioning whether I'm going clinically insane You've got to get out of there Sarah

40:00Jennifer Duran: This is sleep talk You've got to get out of there right now We had that boy before remember who was being really mean in his sleep talk when he was drunk.

40:07Sophia Matveeva: When he was drunk. Yeah. He wasn't good, was he? But if your friends are sick of hearing about your bad boyfriend, I think we're going to get away from this guy. It's not giving husband, is it? It's not. You going to marry this guy, Sarah? Don't think so. It's a lot of sleep talk to come. This all started two months ago. When I started to get weird feelings when he'd go out without notice.

40:31Jennifer Duran: Right. Well, that's not good, is it?

40:33Sophia Matveeva: telling you something that's a woman's intuition as an anxious girl i didn't think much of it at first aside from this is your fears talking but as it progressed i'm turning from anxiety to

40:45Jennifer Duran: intuition and i fear i need to trust my gut yes yeah i'm quite a spiritual person and so i read

40:53Sophia Matveeva: into signs and signals and so i was unsure as to whether this was one of those situations and then a week ago it happened what what myself and my boyfriend have very different patterns of sleep i fall asleep about an hour after him and i'm quite a light sleeper recently i've been quite stressed and my sleep has gotten even worse than usual often falling asleep two to three hours later than usual and the lemmy is not helping the lemmy does not help the lemmy makes things worse the lemmy makes you more tired and it it's i couldn't even fall asleep on the lemmys i've never had a lemmy and then i woke up with the worst headache on the lemmies and you're even

41:30Jennifer Duran: more tired get harry style sleep story on l-o-v-e that will do it wow we're on a raft

41:37Sophia Matveeva: on that raft l-o-v-e love best bit the best bit is when we're snuggling on the raft yeah that's the best bit it's like i am snuggling you harry on the raft yeah wow this is amazing I could if you put me in the right zone I could quote that entire 45 minute sleep story I thought you haven't heard it all but I have though where does it start my brain's heard it all a thousand times it starts where does it start it starts goodnight oh it starts

42:11Jennifer Duran: he says a nice little thing doesn't he about going to sleep we'll just play it for the people

42:16Sophia Matveeva: I'm gonna help you drift off to sleep yes yes with some soothing words of some calming stories. Some soothing words and calming music. Music. Let's get to the Raph bit. The Raph bit's ages away. Now we snuggle on a raft and drift for endless hours. Nine minutes in we're snuggling on the raft. In my head that's half an hour in. No, yeah, me too. I'm already gone. I think we're nearly at the end when we're on the raft. Me too, but it's nine minutes in. L-O-V-E.

42:48Jennifer Duran: wow that's only nine minutes oh my god it's magic

42:52Sophia Matveeva: yeah and then we're on the shoreline looking at the stars yeah of course I don't ever really get to the shoreline I sometimes drip I'm conscious when we're looking at the stars he's talking about the stars and it's like we are snuggled up on the shoreline looking at the stars Harry

43:08Jennifer Duran: can pop us the dilemma

43:11Sophia Matveeva: he's asleep he's asleep he's sleep talking we're locking back in so we're getting anxious and we're falling asleep that's it she said the lemmys aren't helping oh yeah that was it yeah she said i'm falling asleep like three hours after him the lemmys aren't helping yeah because then we said the lemmys aren't helping you said harry styles will help yeah yeah i've never had anything like this happen before but in his sleep around a week ago he had and what i can only describe as a naughty dream about a girl that wasn't me Like, did he come in his sleep? That was so fucking disgusting. Oh, he had a wet dream.

43:45Sophia Matveeva: And did you see that? What? And you heard him say, oh my God, this is so specific. Ejaculate in his fucking boxers or whatever. Oh my God. That is disgusting. That is actually disgusting.

43:59Jennifer Duran: Oh, I would be so mortified.

44:01Sophia Matveeva: I had suspicions about this girl. Who is it? Since the start of our relationship. She doesn't have a name that's common. Chintzia. Oh my God. Oh my God, it's me. And he followed her. Oh, he followed her on Instagram. I thought he followed her in person. He followed her after going on a night out, a week after he made me his girlfriend. So - Ew. Get rid of this snob head. Who is this twat? Yeah. He sounds like a waste of space.

44:34Jennifer Duran: So since the start of our relationship,

44:37Sophia Matveeva: this girl's been like a - This girl's been a name that you've had your - Yeah. and blinkers yeah and he followed her a week after he made his official that's weird and that's really weird dodgy really dodgy you're not just following girls you met a night out that makes no sense so i did what any girl in this situation would do would they and grab the phone right was this at the start i think so i've never been one for snooping and i found nothing apart from the old odd message over the years oh no this is when he was asleep now after the wet dream yeah apart from the odd message over the years and stories slash post likes the next night he said her name again in his sleep loud and clear and since then he's been going out more frequently

45:21Jennifer Duran: and avoiding me oh break up with him please please i'm going crazy trying to work out whether

45:28Sophia Matveeva: this is something i need to bring up i feel like for the first time in a while my life is really going great and if i'm honest i don't want to cause drama where it isn't needed your life will be going better without this man sarah seriously you your life will be going better without this man should i trust my gut or is there another explanation trust your gut 100 this is not right

45:48Jennifer Duran: i also think like forget even like the the sleep talk the going out thing and avoiding you like why is your boyfriend avoiding you and going out and not telling you right like what do you mean

45:59Sophia Matveeva: that's not normal the only reason very clear what's going on and he's just exposing himself in his sleep exactly and i think that's literally the universe being like wake the fuck up i'm showing you what's happening like wake up yeah like we've always had concerns about helen he's literally saying helen in his fucking sleep and he's literally coming in his boxes next to you talking about helen meanwhile he's still been liking helen's pics the whole entirety of your

46:25Jennifer Duran: relationship which is weird that you're saying like i don't want to mess things up like things are going really well like they're not they're not because this is what he's doing also sarah they would be like yeah you don't want to have to like sweep things under the rug and not face things because you're worried about oh it's all gonna blow up like really from now on it's inevitable because this has started now you checking his phone this girl like him going out and avoiding you like it's not the constant you need to put yourself first the constant

46:54Sophia Matveeva: spontaneous nights out they're not right and him coming home avoiding you also like your life is going great right now sorry because you're great yeah and you're doing your life is always going to be going great because you're great what's he doing he's strapping you down he's not making it

47:09Jennifer Duran: very great right now he's making it worse yeah your life's going great because you're great and

47:13Sophia Matveeva: you're doing great things he's not doing nothing so once you get rid of him your life will be going even better because you finally listened to your gut and followed your intuition and actually let go of the waste of space and what is weighing you down there'll be more room for something else great and then your sleep will be fucking amazing oh that harry is gonna be so soothing yeah you're gonna have the whole bed to yourself and you're gonna actually have a proper night's sleep i think you're not sleeping because you're so stressed and worried and and that's not how you should feel when you're in a relationship i mean if you want to bring it up to him like see how he

47:41Jennifer Duran: moves when it's like what are you doing i bet it'll be defense i bet it'll be defensiveness but that might give you even more clarity to be like i knew he's enough yeah like it might just be what

47:50Sophia Matveeva: you need yeah yeah why don't you try and get this explanation that you think might be there yeah and if you will know if it's bullshit yeah like he probably will be full of bullshit because he is full of bullshit okay last one here today his friends or his wife his wife

48:20Jennifer Duran: this is my first time writing in and i really hope you can help me with this dilemma which has been keeping me up at night i married my lovely brian earlier in july and despite the dilemma i'm about to tell you it was an incredible wedding congratulations so we just got married a month ago yes for context brian has two main friend groups his friends from home and his friends from uni personally i've never been a fan of the home group as we're very different not just to me but to brian as well but it's one of those where they all went to school together so they've known each other forever and they're just always going to be there it's also worth noting they're in a band together so we've always had that as their bond cool wicked sweet wicked sweet i've never explicitly expressed my dislike you know what wait sorry you know what's been on my tiktok

49:08Sophia Matveeva: like the rocker boys who like screaming people like the bands on the stage wow and then they're like thrashing around in the audience like hitting each other and jumping on each other punching each other in the fucking crowd it's mental have you seen that no it's insane it's like a barren crowd mosh pits not even it's like 20 people there but then they're flailing their arms around smacking each other while the man's like screaming on the stage it's insane wow that's my tiktok feed i'll have to show you later it's insane so that's what i'm picturing when you say your husband's in a band i'm with the band i'm with the rock band i'm with the band i'm vip

49:50Jennifer Duran: okay so they've always had that as the bond i've never explicitly expressed my dislike for them and i've always been cordial yeah when it came to choosing our bridesmaids and groomsmen brian made two of his home friends his joint best men we'll call them steve and paul when choosing them brian expressed things he wanted and didn't want from the stag do best man speech at the wedding etc didn't want i think he's saying yeah like just like things like i want that one in the speech i don't want you to talk about that let's keep it like that on the stag i don't want to do that i want to do this he's given them like some pointers yeah yeah one of the things brian made clear in what he wanted from the speech was no mention of previous women slash sex life as we had spoken about it and agreed it's not appropriate or pleasant for anyone to hear well also it's just

50:36Sophia Matveeva: disrespectful like it's your wedding day like it's your wedding all our families are here what you want about at the end of the day steven paul whatever your fucking names are like you're 35 years old like keep you respectful keep it cute keep it cute i'm sure you can already tell where

50:53Jennifer Duran: this is headed but not only did they ignore brian their supposed best friends only request but instead they made it the whole focal point of the speech what just about x's they printed the speech on massive pieces of paper behind each page there was a sign referencing women and one night stands from brian's past and that part of the speech would reference that particular story and let me tell you even people that didn't know these stories aka my parents what the fuck could understand the references this is absolutely disgusting i felt so humiliated but unfortunately

51:35Sophia Matveeva: but also sorry really quick however funny they think this is like laugh and joke with the boys who is laughing though but but but like fair enough if in private you're laughing what whatever but the fact that you would bring this to my wedding day as well and upset me we've paid and

51:49Jennifer Duran: disrespect me in my white dress yeah like you're not embarrassing Brian you're actually embarrassing

51:53Sophia Matveeva: me you're disrespecting me completely and like it's disgusting I felt utterly humiliated but

52:00Jennifer Duran: unfortunately both me and Brian froze too much to think to take the microphone away luckily I didn't let it affect my night but it's something that is now constantly in my head but you know what

52:10Sophia Matveeva: every you know everyone will walk away from that wedding talking about that speech and that's the

52:14Jennifer Duran: lasting impact well hopefully they won't but brian was um obviously humiliated too people will leave being like those two idiots like they were idiots they're not it's not anything against you they're

52:27Sophia Matveeva: gonna be like those were idiots but it's just like why would they fucking do that brian was obviously

52:32Jennifer Duran: humiliated too and incredibly upset that his two best friends would go against his wishes for such an important thing when he messaged them after the wedding asking for an explanation they ghosted him and to this day haven't replied or messaged him at all. What the fuck are they on? Here's my dilemma. If it were up to me, we would never see them again and cut Brian's home friend group off completely. I would low-key love for them to be humiliated like we were, but I fear that would bring me some pretty nasty karma. However, I'm worried that Brian will still want to go to things where Steve and Paul will be present and eventually forgive them.

53:06Jennifer Duran: After all, they are still technically part of the band. I don't foresee myself getting over this horrible feeling are we performing at festivals or what? I think we're in the garage and becoming overwhelmingly upset every time I think about the speech but I'm worried that telling Brian we can never see them again will only drive him away help girls, what do you think I should do? Sarah, you look absolutely stunning let me see gorgeous wow

53:35Sophia Matveeva: you look radiant and look at them wow do we got a picture of steven paul no we're not a picture oh wow that is stunning oh we haven't got a picture of steven paul no they don't deserve it oh sarah you look amazing what idiot seriously and you know what losers they thought they were being so fucking funny like how old are you you're not 16 yeah grow up some emotional have some respect like i'm sure they both don't have partners no and that's what it is a hundred percent they thought they were being so fucking funny and they were gonna make no and now they've gone all cowardly by not even

54:12Jennifer Duran: speaking to brian yeah they can't even own their actions no i think it's up to you sarah i think if you want to cut these people off i think cut them loose i think you can say to brian i won't be seeing those two boys ever again yeah and i hope that you won't um and exactly because

54:29Sophia Matveeva: it was also the disrespect there shows how they feel like boldly just ignore brian's wishes pulling you into the crossfire too to upset you on your wedding day yeah it is unforgivable i think i think it's completely unforgivable but then i do know boys are different and boys just kind of like keep going and like just make up and like it's like nothing happened i've seen that before

54:52Jennifer Duran: with boys but i think if you want to pull like i'm your wife yeah i think you can pull that card 100 yeah because like because he felt the same way top of the list in my eyes like you are now the head like you're now the family like you're the top of the chain like if the relationship with husband and wife isn't right nothing else is going to be so I think you're top of the food chain so I think you call the shots I think if you don't want him to be associated with because you like your friends are a reflection of you like and you're going to hang out with them yeah I don't even think your partner probably wants to hang out with them anyway I understand in like big group scenarios but I would just be like no chance like we're disbanding this fucking band mate like yeah like we're breaking up i'm starting my own band with just me and

55:36Sophia Matveeva: fucking matthew be a duet yeah like this band no broke all our fans sorry fans sorry guys like we're not even doing a farewell yeah like just out of here the band's over because we had some big fucking breakups like cats i have lost sophia now well she's coming back she's on hiatus too i

55:52Jennifer Duran: know they're dropping like fly sophia i know well they're working very hard i don't know what's going on she's not going to be at the thing then is she no we're seeing a concert of four we thought

56:00Sophia Matveeva: was seen constantly of sex um but yeah it's it's band dynamics are yeah tough tough and i think that's enough to to disband i think that's unforgivable personally i agree i think it's disgusting but knowing but but then boys i wouldn't be surprised if he's like they're my mates for 20 years well why do they treat you like that well i know i know but i know what boys are like with their friends but keep us posting yeah please i think you've got grounds to make this me too it's disgusting yeah yep right we've lost all faith in uh let's have our star of the week please oh my god i'm just seeing that picture on my own i know that is insane what sort of digicam is that i don't know but it's amazing everything's popping it's great oh my god so can you let us know your digicam please seriously i'm actually like wow by this image i know i would Make that my screensaver.

56:55Sophia Matveeva: I think it's so pretty. It's beautiful. Right. Okay. Star of the Week. Hello, my ladies. Star of the Week. I would like to nominate my Brian Rodney. Rodney? Yes. Shout out. Oh my God, it's like flushed away. Rodney. Shout out for Star of the Week. I've never met Rodney. He is a chemical... I wonder what they call him for short. Roddy? Rod. Yeah. Or Nee? Rod. Yeah, Rod. He is a chemical engineer and currently working on Shift. Wow. Beauty and brains. Yeah, absolutely. 12-hour shift from 7 p.m. to 7 a.m. Rodney. Oh, Rodney, hard worker. Through the night, Rodney. Bloody hell. He is working so hard and is always so tired, but he still calls me every morning at 7 a.m.

57:38Sophia Matveeva: to talk to me on his drive home from work. Poor Rodney. Rodney. Rodney's so tired.

57:43Jennifer Duran: Rodney needs a nap.

57:44Sophia Matveeva: While I'm getting ready to leave for work. It feels like our ships are passing in the night sometimes, but he still does his best to plan his days off around me and just booked his tickets to see the new Spider-Man movie, Spider-Man Dies. Really? Joking. No, he doesn't. I was going to say, whoa, Tom. No, he doesn't. Which I've been so excited for. Spider-Man Dies. MJ is dead. Which I've been so excited for and sent me a little text with timestamps of when we're leaving, getting dinner, buying snacks. Rodney! Rodney is so organized, chemical engineer. Rodney, you're so cool. Oh, let's go and celebrate life.

58:21Sophia Matveeva: This is a reminder to the girlies to appreciate the little things as much as the big things.

58:26Jennifer Duran: Rodney's not saying girl's name is sleep, that's for sure. No, Rodney is locked in Sarah, Sarah, Sarah, Sarah. Rodney is dreaming about Sarah, Sarah, Sarah and Spider-Man.

58:32Sophia Matveeva: And shout out to, yeah, Spider-Man, Tom Holland, Tom Holland, Tom Holland. I love Spider-Man. MJ, MJ, MJ. Don't die, don't die. And shout out to our hardworking Bryans who still make sure to make time for their ladies. Absolutely. Love you so much.

58:44Jennifer Duran: Rodney. Shout out, you guys. We needed that this week. Rodney is king.

58:49Sophia Matveeva: Rodney, Rodney, Rodney, Rodney. do you know what you know what Rodney we're gonna add Rodney into our roster of names I think it's iconic yes I like it yeah now we've got Brian it's so new and unique yeah Brian, Ryan, Rodney it goes great Brian, Steve Rodney, Ryan Brian, Steve Rodney, Ryan yeah I love it yay Rodney

59:09Jennifer Duran: well thank you so much for listening everyone have a good week if you have a dilemma or a star of the week entry like our man Rodney Rodney you can email it to hello at thegirlsbackroom.com

59:20Sophia Matveeva: yeah Rodney I'm gonna say that all day now yeah watch out girl she's coming for you man where's my camera engineer yeah see you next Wednesday

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From the publisher

Rodneys are rejoicing this week as their name gets added to TGB roster from a very shiny star of the week submission. One Sarah wonders why her Brian keeps saying another Sarah's name in his sleep and two evil Brians manage to derail the best man speech at our gorgeous Sarah's wedding…how dare they!

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