

14 Jul 2026 · 1h 7m · 30 chapters

Relationship and dating dilemmas, centered on cheating/sexual boundaries and trust. The episode includes ads, birthday/food banter, and a “word game,” but the main segments are listener advice about OnlyFans/Telegram porn use and “the other woman” scenario.
No named guests appear in the transcript; it’s primarily the hosts plus multiple listener story submissions.
Written by AI. May contain mistakes.
The hosts celebrate a birthday surprise with a cake and reflect on their ages.
“And hopefully it doesn't go like the smooth it didn't just go.”
Discussion on aging, birthdays, and shared life experiences.
“Or 82 from my POV right now looking at this cake.”
The hosts reminisce about their YouTube journey and upcoming anniversaries.
“Fire alarm's going to start going off, guys.”
A light-hearted discussion about hair trends and personal styles.
“I wonder when we'll be 10 years on the pod.”
The hosts share their recent fitness routines and motivation.
“But like professionally, I get a tan ass on it.”
Discussion on favorite meals growing up and current food likes.
“Well, I had my protein shake this morning.”
The hosts recall their favorite and least favorite childhood meals.
“Yeah, I just, I don't like the old El Paso kit.”
The hosts reminisce about their least favorite family dinner nights growing up and share their thoughts on various meal options.
“That was notorious and I had everyone be like, oh, for God's sake, pork chop.”
Discussion about various food preferences and cravings, including nostalgic snacks and favorite dishes.
“Sometimes I go through a phase of wanting Brinna.”
A disclaimer is provided about the nature of the podcast, emphasizing it as a light-hearted space for discussion.
“But it was still, it was still kind of fine.”
The hosts discuss a listener's relationship story involving trust, personal growth, and overcoming challenges together.
“And we are dipping our toes in with an issue regarding OnlyFans.”
Discussing personal growth through independence and upcoming plans.
“We're saving to move to Manchester together, which has always been my dream.”
A story about finding unexpected messages on a partner's phone.
“But obviously, it was all too good to be true.”
Exploring the implications of finding hidden messages on Telegram.
“and I was like, what the fuck is Telegram?”
A confrontation over a partner's secretive behavior and coping mechanisms.
“I let him explain and he said he knew it was disgusting and disrespectful and it came from a place of deep insecurity and that this was the only time he'd ever paid for anything like that.”
Navigating the complexities of trust after discovering hidden behavior.
“into not doing something like this again.”
Discussing whether to stay in a challenging relationship with a partner's issues.
A new dilemma about a long-term friend and their inappropriate advances.
“Yet your doctor says everything looks fine.”
The hosts react to a wild neighbour affair story, then a listener asks for advice about a 20-year situationship with an old school flame who turned out to have a girlfriend.
“Whoa And he messaged him Because they were in a street group chat You know like all the neighbours Yeah yeah yeah Then the boyfriend messaged him Saying like are you up?”
The complexities of a friend's romantic struggles and boundaries.
“with his girlfriend, Sarah, for four years.”
Analyzing the motivations behind his actions and their implications.
“I mean, it does sound very just sex driven.”
Exploring the challenges faced during early dates and expectations.
“Circular motions is going to solve things.”
Discussing the lack of physical affection and its effects on attraction.
“I feel like that was one of my first proper dates.”
Examining the need for clarity in evolving relationships.
“I never thought I was a words of affirmation girl, but he literally never, ever even paid me a compliment on any of the dates and it started to bother me.”
Sharing the cringe-worthy experience of a disastrous first kiss.
“So she said, I don't particularly like bowling.”
The hosts discuss a series of awkward dates and the challenges of physical intimacy.
“You know, at least we've crossed that barrier.”
The conversation shifts to the difficulties of ending a relationship that lacks romantic progression.
“The thing that was nagging at me was that I had to completely create a moment for us to kiss.”
They analyze the responses exchanged between Sarah and Brian after she attempts to end things.
“Honestly, I'm not really sure where this is heading.”
The hosts reflect on the importance of chemistry and natural progression in dating.
They celebrate positive relationship milestones by sharing a touching engagement story.
“No, it sounds like he'd be doing things.”

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1:51And hopefully it doesn't go like the smooth it didn't just go. I know, I know. So just be careful. But Sophia's officially. Rosie very kindly got me a birthday cake. Woo, woo, woo. It looks vanilla. It looks. It actually brings me. Do you know what it looks like? A dog cake. Cool. We're so on trend. This is such a surprise. I can't believe it. It is such a surprise. Rosie just brought it out from the back. We were like, whoa. It looks delicious, actually. It looks delightful. So you're finally joining the 28 club. As of tomorrow. Wow, can't believe it. That's mental. Or 82 from my POV right now looking at this cake.
2:27Yeah, it looks 82 to me too. Yeah, I can't believe it. Wow, 28. Right, why don't you reflect and take a moment, make a wish and blow it out and hold on to the side so it doesn't... I'm honestly a bit scared to pick it up. Yeah. Well, shout out to my fellow 16th of July birthday ladies. Grace Nicholson. Truly, Grace Nicholson, shout out. Now, truly, I do think it is the best birthday in the world. Speak on it. Like, I don't actually think there's a better date in the calendar. Maybe like the 20th. I also think that sounds really nice. Aren't you like right in the middle of the year, technically?
3:01Yes. Wow, I've never realized that. Neither have I. Whoa. So, you know, you get to experience like the New Year's and then you've got spring. Yeah. Get all the May bank holes. Yeah. Get the, you know, optimism of June. and then it's like wow July summer birthday month and then smack bang in the middle yeah then you've still got August and you've still got September a bit of autumn and then it's yours so I'm like oh I've got Chintzy's birthday to look forward to yeah and then it's nice autumn Halloween they enjoy Christmas you know no birthdays and then comes right around again yeah my whole family's born in July it's kind of strange but it's kind of crazy you know yeah my brother kicks us off at the end of June and then mum's in August we're all in July Fiona and Grant had a little routine they really did they obviously the ovulation was peaking nine months prior absolutely
3:50right shall blot me candles shout out 16th of july ladies happy wednesday everyone shout out to the cancers i guess this is last but last podcast being a 27 year old yeah be careful please it's like actually thank god blueberry's not here today honestly thank god blueberry's not here she'll be barking i don't think she's ever seen oh no she's seen candle flames of course
4:13Fantastic. Round of applause. Absolutely. Fire alarm's going to start going off, guys. I know, that was a great - Let me dissipate the smoke. That was a great one sweet blowout. Wow, I can't wait. Fabulous. Oh, it's literally like a dock cake. This is so exciting. Should I take a bite? Yeah.
4:30Nice, a bit of icing. Mmm. Frosting. That's the good stuff. Yeah. I can see a bit of vanilla cake in there. Get in there. we should actually go to new yorks try.com is it that's a great cake where is where'd you get that from mns of course only the finest just bougie only the finest only the finest shout out mns that on display beautiful round of applause one more time fabulous wow we're both 28 now jesus wow yeah this is the uh this is the peak time of the year where we get to be the same age yes Yes. And actually we have hit, I think we should maybe find the date of our 10 year, probably YouTube anniversary almost.
5:14I think we passed that a while ago. Really? But if you think about it though, prom get ready with us. We were 18. I know, but we had that channel for a while before. I know, but if we, if we start it from like, that was the first proper video. Yeah. That's coming up like now. That's coming up now because that was what, when is prom? And it's literally end of June. Yeah. When do people, yeah. So we should check, we should fact check that. We should fact check that to be fair. Do you want me to quickly fact check it? Yeah, go for it. Okay. Go on. Just honestly ask Google. They might know. Sorry, let's save the water.
5:48Let's just, oh, don't want to look at all these old videos. I don't want to look at this. Here it is. Oh, it says nine years technically. It'll hit 10. What's the date on it then? Click play? Yeah, I'm looking at it. Please put it on mute. I actually can't even look at myself. I mean, second of July. Oh, we've passed it. No, we haven't. Oh, technically. Yeah. Darn it. Oh, that's our 10 year proper YouTube. But if we look technically. I wonder when we'll be 10 years on the pod. Honestly, not far. We've been doing this for like seven years. Technically. We're going to hit 10 soon. Technically, the first one.
6:24We might have two dogs in here. Two dogs and a baby. Oh my God. Imagine. Oh my God. The 10 year anniversary. I couldn't cope with two dogs. It's going to be like daycare. No. 29th of December 2014 was technically the first YouTube upload December? Wow, we really locked in for that Christmas New Year, new Earth Yeah, absolutely What year? So 2014 2014 So it's been 12 years technically Fucking hell Active on YouTube What the hell are we posting in 2014? One minute lookbook Of course, iconic 69k views Edited by me Absolutely As per every single video on that channel And then everyday makeup One minute We've got 101 Everyday makeup?
6:59Okay, I remember that one 1 ,000 views on that 11 years ago. One minute, 26. 101 ,000 views? Then mini look, okay. Wow, people have really gone. Then yeah, we really take, welcome to our channel. If I've got one birthday wish, it's that none of you ever go back and watch those videos. That prom get ready with has got 600K views. Fucking hell, don't tell me that. Get to know us 100K. No, because I'll be tempted to go back and just delete every single one. Barcelona vlog. It's best that I don't remember that. 193K views. That was a great time that was, to be fair. That was freedom, that was. Wow Reflection What a journey we've been on We're getting old aren't we Yeah New Year's Eve Get ready with us 423k views Fucking hell What's going on But we would post those And they would get like 100 views So people have obviously Just found them I know I know Right I can't look at this anymore Yes best not to God I had fucking dip dye Dip dye was so cool So did I Yeah Love dip dye Bring it back What a trend We should bring that back It kind of is coming back Do you reckon?
8:02Yes. Okay. Someone has it recently. It's kind of coming back. But I guess that like harsh dip line isn't. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I would do some peach dip dye, honestly, tomorrow. Oh my God. I'd do that in a heartbeat. Coachella 2027? Yeah. But like professionally, I get a tan ass on it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Give them plenty of notice. Yeah, yeah, yeah. See, that's so easy for you to do fun dips of color. Yeah, because I've got the white base. Yes. Yeah, but you like to change your hair a lot. You can go extensions in, extensions out. You get to have more fun than I do. Well, I guess, technically speaking, I guess I've switched up more than you.
8:40But technically speaking, you could do more colors. Could do more, yeah. You could. Yes. You know? But not crazy enough. She's not great. She's not got that free spirit like me. I'm set in my ways. I'm a creature of habit. Absolutely. Right. Well, we're going to play the word game today. Oh, God, I forgot. Oh, no. Let the anxiety begin. Oh, no. No, this is actually too. Also, I've got my spectacles on today. Yeah, so really, we're channeling studious, intelligent words. Huge vocabulary. Slip this in. Absolutely, I've got this. I smashed it last time. Oh, yeah, I've got to see what my word is. Easer.
9:17Easer. Rosie, we need to make these words harder. Because that, I fear, is part of our vocabulary. I'm elated with that. And we're never going to catch each other out. No, we're not. Let's go. I said it Chintz likes it when we get an easy way I like a challenge you see remember when I snuck in precipitation like let's just actually deep that I feel we moved on from that way too quick to be fair what was mine mine was mental yours was and no one heard it Gasly no before before you got me on that one though last week Connoisseur Connoisseur yeah I was like Connoisseur if you will yeah that was great right Should we do our question of the week?
10:00Absolutely. Welcome back, everyone. I let you take it away. Happy Wednesday. I've got the triple drink lineup. I've finished my matcha, which is sad. I've just got a double lineup today. Yeah. What's going on with you today, then? Well, I had my protein shake this morning. Because I got a text from Rosie. Yeah. I did let Rosie know that I didn't want a beverage because I didn't want it to be the place. But then I had to fact check it with her saying, you don't want a matcha? Yeah. And I had to say, no. No. Okay. Because, you know, I had my protein shake, honestly, at about 7.38. so it was just it was feeling quite I was just arising for the day yeah that's a lovely time yeah I was just emerging yeah I was I did some Stairmaster I did a little kettlebell series this morning I really enjoyed it this morning actually that's good that's good I've not used the kettlebells in honestly about a year and a half yeah shout out but you know who's been inspiring me Julia and Hunter yeah shout out I'm locked back in on their content and they're still going to F45 every day like they have been doing for the past like eight years yeah shout out and it's all the kettlebells and I thought you know what I'm going to pick up a kettlebell and do some stuff with this.
10:58I like a kettlebell workout. Not doing it in a long, long, long, long time. Bit of swinging, a bit of flinging. Yeah, a bit of swinging, a bit of pushing, a bit of lunging. Yeah, because it's not like boring. Yeah, it switches it up. Yeah, shout out. Shout out kettlebells. Where was I going with that? So I had my shake and I was like, I don't want another shake just yet. Yeah, absolutely. And then I thought I didn't have time to have a coffee. So I thought I'm going to get a nice coffee at the studio. Yeah, absolutely. So that's my beverage lineup. So Sophia said no match of the day. I said no match of the day, Ma.
11:26Which is really sad And I've got this Which is a protein It's a bit chunky though I like that one Oh, banana chunk Yeah, just get it down, you know Needs to be better blended It's absolutely atrocious Okay Atrocious Question of the week Go on, call it She always does this She lingers Is that your word? Yes!
11:55well done yay you never call me out I felt it well done I just thought I'm gonna get it in there early I didn't think you picked that up yeah oh it's these glasses you see oh I'm really proud thank you yeah she's got her thing today oh damn it well we're only two minutes in this is my first loss huh this is how it feels uh-huh wow mm-hmm yeah feels good beat you on your birthday feels good what is your hyper fixation dinner right now oh I'll tell you what mine is go on salmon I mean it's boring it's boring it's boring it's almost out rank I had it last night I was like this is the last time rocket salad with parmesan I mean whatever and that's been my hyper fixation for literally the past two years mozzarella and tomatoes had that three times this week I'm sick of it I have that every night yeah but not the salmon hey no no but yeah yeah i'm sick of it now my expectation right now is kind of barbecue i guess yeah yeah yeah bbq that's nice bbq that's really nice steak fajitas okay nice fajitas oh i mean fajitas whenever it was fajita night at home i go oh my god are you joking when i got fajitas i was like Get in, it's fajita night.
13:16No, I'll be like, I don't want fajitas. I love fajitas. What's not to like about fajitas? Yeah, I just, I don't like the old El Paso kit. I love the old El Paso fajitas. Whenever it was fajita night, I was like, thank fuck, it's fajita night. Sour cream, cheese. It was the peppers. I don't want peppers. Oh, I would just take the peppers out. Yeah. There's just something about it. It just felt like, oh my God, fajitas. Oh, I love fajita night. But like, I love a taco now and I love an El Paso sachet on a prawn. do you know what I mean yeah yeah yeah and I did like the sour cream of it all but obviously it was back in the day we weren't having guacamole and stuff oh was you yeah I don't think my household knew what guacamole was no and you didn't know what guacamole was it was sour cream and cheese and that was it we had sour cream cheese guac salsa fuck yeah yeah all the condiments we definitely had yeah I just remember like no oh that was my favorite night and the worst night was pork chop night.
14:09I fucking hated pork chop night. I'm a fucking vegan, mate. I hated pork chop night. Pork chops and some veg. That was notorious and I had everyone be like, oh, for God's sake, pork chop. Why do British families have pork chops? stuffing on the top. Apple sauce. Stuffing? Apple sauce. Wow. No, ours was just a... And we were like, oh, and also we actually hated jacket potato night. Oh, I could get down with jacket potato night. No, that's good for me. Yeah, listen. nowadays I love jacket potato night but back in the day I was like oh yeah it feels boring and like what the fuck potato night it's like come on cook something else for once
14:52I hated pork chop night and I hated jacket potato night why were you forcing a chop I also hated steak I was 14 I don't want a pork chop I also hated steak night I hated steak no Listen, mum, see, they put - I love macaroni and cheese night. That was quite rare. That's a treat. We don't have macaroni and cheese night. That was quite rare. I loved fajita night. Spaghetti bolognese night, spag bol. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Loved that night. Lasagna, that was on a Saturday. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. With garlic bread. Loved that night. What else did we have? Salmon, hated salmon night. Mum would feed us fish.
15:28Hated jacket potato night. Hated pork chop night. That was about it. Yeah. I had some nice meals at yours. Paella. I didn't mind that sorry not paella risotto I was gonna say Fiona's really shepping up paella risotto yeah nice didn't mind risotto night because when it was steak night mum would cook them with marmite remember this is like her niche yeah that's her niche that's Angie's flair I never liked steak night I'm not sure I did you know but whenever it was pasta or lasagna like that was my flow I feel like we always had pasta at your house unless it was Tuesday and then we had a roast Yeah, roast is Tuesday.
16:05Quite niche. Quite niche. And you does a roast on a Tuesday. Yes, of course, a roast on a Tuesday. Well, back in the day, she did. Yeah. That was always a good night. That was a good night. Yeah. But I feel like when you're younger, you're like, oh, roast. Yeah, you're not into it. You're not into it. But now it's like, wow, give me a fucking big fat roast. On a Tuesday. What a fucking treat is that? Honestly, let me just get a personal chef. I'd love a chef. That's insane. Yeah. Technically, that's what it was. We were just being fed for free every night. And we were complaining about it. Right, so someone's enjoying fajitas.
16:37Shout out fajitas. Veg and tofu stir fry. I didn't love stir fry night, but I didn't hate it. No, I hate stir fry night. No, no stir fry night. Wow. This would be a hyper fixation of mine. Bean toasties. Oh my. I would eat with a brown sauce. There is one thing I could eat every night and it's baked beans. Me too. Seriously. Smiley faces, baked beans. Yeah, not get sick. Baked beans, chicken nuggets. Chicken nuggets, baked beans and cheese. I could eat that every night. Korean salmon and honey mustard slaw Okay, I could get down with that Yeah Mini charcuterie for one Yum Yes Whatever mum has cooked now I'm home from uni Yeah What a treat What a treat Sweet potato with cheese Okay Okay Yeah, this is me Oh, that's what that lady's doing on TikTok This is very us Well, me M &S cooked rotisserie chicken in a bag With rocket and garlic aioli Fucking hell, that sounds good I fear the garlic aioli just, yeah, took that to another level.
17:32Frozen blueberries, milk and maple syrup. Blueberry ice goodness. Yum. Digestive biscuits. For dinner? Yeah, fine. She's just had hyperfixation dinner. Okay. A digestive, yeah. At least it'll get you flowing. I'm not getting those back daily, yeah. Weetabix, same, daily. Yeah. Beans and eggs on toast, love. Sometimes I go through a phase of wanting Brinna. Yeah, yeah, yeah, me too, me too. But I would, like eggs, I don't want the eggs. just want the beans and the cheese and the toast yeah that's it kit kats yum nice love i've not had a kit kat in a while actually neither have i take a break have a kit kat what what chocolate bar would you pick up if you were at the corner shop if i was at the corner shop and i was in the mood for chocolate i would pick up a galaxy yeah i think i'd pick up a galaxy too or i do like a twix i do i do i do about twixes i do i would also if i was in the mood pick up a milky bar yes but have you seen what's going on with dairy milk i've changed that recipe since when i had dairy milk the other day apparently it's like america now it's not the same it's not yeah yeah where did you learn that dairy milk we're gonna have to fact check me but dairy milk's been bought by the by a us company by like fucking fucking hershey's yes america chocolate is i'm being deadly serious it tastes like cardboard it's so disgusting it's so shit like sewage yeah it's been bought by hershey's or some shit and they've changed the recipe they've made it rubbery it doesn't melt anymore it bends it's like american chocolate it's not the same so i'd stay away from dairy milk well we need to buy some in the to have it in stock before it all changes the recipe it's gone what that's it oh my god i think it's a one stick talk Yes, I want TikTok I would go Twix I would go Galaxy also I wouldn't go Mars Nah, nah, nah, nah I wouldn't go Snickers Nah, nah, nah, nah Never going Bounty I'd have the Mini I would never have a full bar of Bounty That's like too much Cocoa Nut I think I'm going to go Twix actually Yeah I do love Galaxy And I love Milky Bar Me too Well, we're going to have to put it to the test Right we've got another hyper fixation We've got plain pasta with olive oil salt And adds a lot of cheese Fucking hell that sounds good I've not had that before Saleros I love Saleros Shout out some of Bianca Janis She introduced me to Saleros She does Peanut noodles One thing I don't like is nuts on food Nuts on salad Nuts on anything The only nut I like is cashew nuts.
20:22I love nuts in my hand and just eat like in a meal like when it's in a curry or a stir fry or a salad I'm like ugh I like seeds like sunflower seeds and stuff and salads it's ruined in it. I don't want pumpkin seeds. No get them gone. Don't want none of that. Brachetta nice. I could eat that every night to be fair. I could eat that every night. I might have one for tea actually. It sounds quite good. I could eat that every night. Taco bowls yum. Fucking hell I like that every night. I can actually smash a taco bowl. It's too hot for a taco bowl for me today. I know but a lot of lettuce It's just like freshness.
20:51Yeah. A bit of rice. I'm never going to say no if you put it in front of me. Yeah, of course. But it's not calling out to me. It's not. Big Daddy Pistachio but in M &S. Fucking hell. That is life changing. That is. That is so good. Cherry tomatoes and feta pasta. That's that classic TikTok recipe. Corn on the cob after every dinner. Yum. I love corn on the cob. Carbonara. Shout out. Every night carbonara. Shout out. Shout out. Yochi. Oh. Don't tempt us. you bitch oh my god yeah so last night i was like i need i had such a bad headache wait i had a okay what are you gonna say i was like i need a frozen yogurt but i didn't fancy a snog last night too yeah but i didn't fancy a snog and i was like i wish go greek was open like that's what i want that thick i want i want that tartness okay did you care so in central london there's this place called fresco have you seen it on tiktok no it's like proper greek proper greek yogurt proper you You know, like, like, like go Greek, like, like Greek yogurt.
21:52And they only have plain. They only have plain. And I've ordered it once before, but it's so far away. It arrives melty. I was like, fuck it. I'm going to order it. Took about an hour. Fucking hell. But it was still, it was still kind of fine. It was delicious. It was just some honey. I had just some strawberries and some sprinkles. Wow. And it was so fresh and zingy. It was amazing. And I want us to go tomorrow. I want us to go tomorrow before we meet Grace I'd love to go tomorrow because I need to experience it there in person fresh I think we should go I'd really enjoy that I know and every mouthful I was like this is so sweet as well I would love that yeah and they have all these different flavours of honeys whoa yeah that's quite special and they have like proper just like yoghurt bowls so I ordered a tub of their yoghurt oh and how's that been I've not tried it yet oh well I've been getting at Snog my new flow is hazelnut flavor.
22:49Yes, shout out. With the hazelnut spread. They've got literally pots of Nutella. Yeah, Nutella. Yeah. I mean, my whole order's been revitalized. Where have you been? White chocolate chips and strawberries and Oreos. That's it. Yum, yum, yum. Oh, I love an Oreo. Sardines on sourdough, then a pot of jelly. Nice. Jelly. On the sardines? No, on the other side. Oh, on the side. That's a pot of strawberry jelly. Do you know what? I'm going to get some jelly in the cupboard, in the fridge, actually. Yeah. it's a delicious sweet treat I never have jelly yeah special K yes oh love special K sushi nice ramen nice finally carrot cake oats yum carrot cake oats never heard of that yeah grating a bit of carrot and cinnamon makes it like carrot cake yeah I used to do that back in the day
23:39just before we get into it quick disclaimer just to say we are not doctors we are not professionals we do not actually know what we are talking about. This is a light-hearted space. Okay. Don't take what we say literally because we could be wrong. Yeah. And if there's anything serious, if there's anything you feel like you're seriously struggling with, please contact a GP, a professional, because that is not us. We're just girls, girls and boys just like you. We're just trying to get through life as well. Not professionals. Enjoy the episode. Enjoy. Right. Okay. Okay. Should we die? Is it boy or girl?
24:10Boy. Boy. And we are dipping our toes in with an issue regarding OnlyFans. Oh, we've not had an OnlyFans issue in a while. S-O-S, please someone help me. S-O-S, is OnlyFans an affair? So he's paying a girl to talk to her because you can have those personal conversations. Yeah. And like just chat to them. But then you've got to be paying them loads. Would you rather OnlyFans or an AI girlfriend? Would you rather find out your partner's got an AI girlfriend or only friends? Oh my God.
24:58I mean, I would like to say AI, but then I think that's weirder. Yeah, I do too. Do you know what I mean? I'd rather it actually be a human girl. Same. Because like the AI thing, that's like, okay, so you're attracted to a bot. A bot. Code. Yeah. Love the pod. Get to the scene Get to the scene Wow okay I've been with my brand for nearly five years She's gotten straight to the point Love this Okay We got together in sixth form at 17 And we are both 21 now With loads of mutual friends Before we even started dating About six months in Brian did something that really upset me And broke my trust whilst we were on a break So I ended it instantly During the time we were broken up I chatted to a few other guys And slept with someone Oh nice Nice.
25:43But I kept being drawn back to him and we eventually rekindled our love. From that point on, Brian transformed overnight. Since then, he's treated me like an absolute princess. Okay, so that losing you was kind of the wake up he needed. Shock factor. At 17, he cancelled his lad's holiday and saved up from his part-time job to take me to Italy to visit his family. As he should. I'm a big fan of this guy. He's won me over. Well, yeah, give him a second. then took me to Iceland that is very like 17 year olds aren't doing that like he must be yeah head over heels head over heels for a 17 year old boy to be like no I'm not going with the lads I'm taking my girlfriend away yeah very smart that is frontal lobe energy yeah it is so we took her there when they were 17 then took me to Iceland for my 18th birthday since then there's been trips dinners birthday treats all the little things in between wow I like this man sounds like my kind of guy me too Sounds like my kind of guy too Ginzy's gonna be after him Absolutely Watch out Sarah We ended up at University Towns About 45 minutes apart Not bad Nice And honestly it was the best years of our lives Brian would drive over at 3am To pick me and my friends up from a night out And because I was a busy student nurse He'd come round and tidy my flat And have dinner ready for when I got home Sarah This guy sounds great This is star of the week so far This is lovely I will say There was a moment at uni that tested us a little.
27:12One of my flatmates had developed a crush on me. Oh, okay. Which I was aware of, but didn't mention to Brian. Then one night after a night out, he suddenly kissed me out of nowhere. Shit. Whoa. I told Brian straight away. To his credit, Brian was completely able to trust that I was genuinely shocked and forgave me for not having mentioned the crush sooner. And we moved past this together. And have never been stronger since. last summer he encouraged me to solo travel australia for a month because it had always been my dream and he's literally my biggest cheerleader my family absolutely adores him my mom calls him her favorite child and says i'm lucky to have found someone who treats me so well and looks after me the way brian does i love this guy me too i also got on really well with his family and friends wow it's nice because it's like we're young but he's given we're giving each other the space to do our own things and like experience life being tested a little bit We've come stronger We're united I think it's strong You guys seem like You've got a lot of respect For each other And I think like You going to travel For a month on your own Is really valuable To like just your growth And just like Independence Independence Away from him But still You've still got that life together Do you know what I mean?
28:21We've just finished uni And moved back to our hometown To save up whilst working So we're both living At our family homes for now As soon as Brian turned 21 He taught me to drive And even now I've passed Oh congrats He still comes to my mum's to pick me up and drive me to work so I don't have to pay the ridiculous hospital parking prices. NHS girlies will know. We're saving to move to Manchester together, which has always been my dream. And Brian already has a great job straight out of uni. We are really so excited about our future. But obviously, it was all too good to be true. I'm not a big snooper.
28:58And I've only looked a couple of times before and never found anything on his phone. until the other night oh my god i'd had a dream that i sprayed cheetah on brian's car and we had a bit of a giggle about it can be very powerful yeah it's like you're subconscious yeah so we had a giggle about it but i couldn't shake the strange feeling it put in my stomach after the dream the next day i came over after cocktails with the girls and we had a lovely evening and they went to bed. Brian fell asleep pretty early so I had a look through his phone to settle the feeling. I looked at texts, whatsapp, call history, social media, pictures as always found absolutely nothing as he literally messages no one.
29:44I was just about to put his phone down when I spotted an app called telegram. I heard this from someone. Really? There's something called telegram and I was like what the fuck's telegram and it's like a place where you can message so it's like basically where people would go to like, they were messaging on Telegram and I was like, what the fuck is Telegram? But it's apparently this app or something where, and obviously no one's going to think to look in Telegram. It's like a, it's like an app in disguise, I think. Like people communicate on there when it's like, like she's saying, I checked messages, I checked WhatsApp.
30:17Like it's like a secret messaging place that no one would think to look. So it's intentional. I guess if you know, I'm messaging there to hide. Like now you would be like, I'm going to look at your Telegram. Well, she said, But it's basically, like I never knew what that was until literally last week. She said, look, it's basically a new WhatsApp. Yes. Yeah. For those who don't know. Yeah. When I opened it. We're going to shed some light on some people's situations. Seriously. People listening. Telegram. It's the new thing. Because also like if you weren't doing something sneaky, you just do it in your chest.
30:45Like you'd be messaging the person on WhatsApp. Why would you even need to have that app? Why do you need a separate app to like, this is dodgy. Yeah. Unless you're arranging my surprise birthday. Yeah. That's not needed. so when i opened it there was two chats with porn accounts where brian had paid 10 pound 10 pound for access to explicit images like only fans the first was back in january and the other was literally the same day before i'd come over i woke up i woke him up told him i was leaving and said we were over so he was messaging two porn accounts paying money for pictures and a bit of probably exchange.
31:22The next day I came around with his stuff. Brian was devastated and begged me to hear him out. I let him explain and he said he knew it was disgusting and disrespectful and it came from a place of deep insecurity and that this was the only time he'd ever paid for anything like that. He showed me that after I'd left that night before he'd already booked an expensive course of therapy. Whoa. Okay. And had loads of suggestions for how he could work on rebuilding my trust. We spent the rest of the day together And he went above and beyond Okay so he's in panic mode He's in survival mode I can't lie Seems really sweet I know but he's got a different side to him That would not really be The cracks are starting to show I do kind of believe though that this was a one time thing for him And he was like oh that was so fucking stupid Like why have I done that Well he did it in January and he did it recently So it was twice A two time thing A two time thing I mean, he knows, well, obviously anyone who does anything like this, he knows it's wrong.
32:22He's like, oh my God, let me book myself in for therapy. I think knowing everything you've told us about this guy, I do think that he wouldn't do this again. Because I also think you've shown him that you are no nonsense. So the fact that you saw that and were like, I'm out, I'm going, I'm leaving. I do think it probably, like he knows that you stand on business. and I think given all of the context that you've given us, I do feel like you have almost scared him into not doing something like this again. Yeah, I mean, let's see where this, I would hope so. The problem was when he showed me the therapy booking, I noticed he'd put porn addiction in the description but he told me it was a one-off.
33:05So there's other things that we don't know, yeah. But he told me it was a one-off So I had another look Turns out Brian had made and deleted An OnlyFans account twice in 2024 And then a couple of times after that Okay so this is a It's not just a two time thing It's a three time thing Then a couple of times after that I woke him up again and told him to get out So you kind of like forgave him And then you found something else Then you just had a bad feeling Because lying when I'd given him the chance to be honest Was unforgivable It was only when I showed him the screenshots that he admitted to using it in 2024.
33:43He broke down again and said he was embarrassed about his issues and he knows he needs help and that he feels like a disgusting person. That actually surprised me. Brian comes across as confident and always very popular, liked, so I wouldn't have expected that at all. Brian said he was going to use therapy and also talk to his parents so he could be held accountable and change regardless of whether I broke up with him or not. He is not the person that he wants to be. Oh, God. That's where I left it Brian's gone Oh my god Sarah Respect You are really Standing on business Yeah and giving him A super hard time Including almost Sending the screenshots To his mum But I genuinely feel Like losing him Forever would be A massive loss I told my mum I'd seen inappropriate Stuff on his phone And that he'd lied to me Leaving out the details That he'd paid for it And she said That he's allowed To have issues He needs to work through As long as he's actively trying to sort them and that if he's serious about changing then it's down to me to decide whether I can forgive him when we first got together I didn't really have any issue with that sort of stuff and I even experimented with it myself I'd heard some girls enjoy it but I always thought it was without saying that paying for it was a different thing entirely and Brian agrees it's cheating Brian has shown me he can change before yes true and I can't help but go back and forth with with what i think at some points i feel empathetic like brian's problem is something that he is clearly so ashamed of and wants to fix slash get help and at other points i think he's just disgusting and a liar sure i really don't want to break up with him okay so we're kind of like on a break i'm assuming and was so so so happy before this and just wish i could go back but also will not allow this person i spend the i spend the rest of my life to to be a loser clearly brian doesn't does have an issue and feel like he needs help but am i an idiot for considering working through this i've struggled to find opinions online and i'm not really sure how i feel any thoughts would be appreciated thanks pics attached oh oh let's see good people oh guys you're just so cute i don't think you would be an idiot for trying to work through it Like she said If this was Lydia I'd say Stay away from him For six months Yeah I'd say give him some space He needs to work his shit out I don't want you to get involved in this The one thing I do It's already upset you enough And it's gonna be even more Yeah It's gonna be heavy It's gonna be dark It's gonna be challenging You're gonna be crying I do respect the fact that he There's been no like Defensiveness Yes Or no like Oh you're overreacting He's held his hands up He is holding his hands up pretty much sounds like straight away.
36:32And he does sound like he is taking action. Yeah, I think that's a really good idea. Be like, maybe be like, look, you go and sort your stuff out. Yeah. Message me in six months time. Give me a call and let me see where I'm at. You know, show me the proof, show me the change. Yeah, like before you get back together, you can do the work and make these amends. Because at the end of the day, we're 21. Yeah, we are so young. Like we're so young. If I'm honest, like, I don't want you to be taking on this huge thing that's gonna like be your whole life really it's gonna be on your mind every single day yeah it's heavy it's dark it's gonna be hard like he's not just gonna click his fingers and like it's not gonna be fixed tomorrow no stop watching porn and like you're you're also not just he's not gonna go to one therapy session no and be like yay and you're gonna be like oh yeah and be all happy happy happy again like it's gonna be very hard yeah i think this is something he needs he needs to work on outside of relationship i guess it depends yeah and i guess you've got to ask yourself like is this guy worth it yeah like every relationship you're going to go through hardships yeah some people are going to be worth it and some people aren't so I guess you've got to ask yourself like is this my person I think give him six months me too I think say look I love you that's not changed but this is too much for me right now and I feel like you need to deal with this on your own I feel like you need to handle this on your own yeah you know this is a solo journey that you're gonna go on you're telling me you're gonna take it seriously I hope so yeah And we'll see how we feel in six months.
37:56But I need some space. Like I don't want to, I'm 21 respectfully. Like I love you, but I don't really want to. And also, you know, space would also be very beneficial for you. I think so. Because I think with space comes clarity. And then you would, I think after a few weeks, months, really, really like tune into your like inner thoughts to be like, okay, am I wanting to go back? Am I not? Like you're either going to be like, do you know what? I feel much lighter. I feel much better being like free of that. And I'm actually quite enjoying. I don't want the burden of that. My life right now. Yeah.
38:28Or you're going to be like wanting to pick it up again. Yeah, absolutely. I think give yourself, because yeah, it's very emotional. It's a lot. It's very heavy. Yeah. And I think give him the space to handle that on his own. Kind of, yeah. Good luck, Sarah. Good luck. That's a lot.
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40:05Wow. Next dilemma. 20 year history. Oh my fuck. How old are we? It's like us. In it. Oh, look up. More than. Secret messages and a new house Two streets away from me Oh my Oh me oh my Oh shit Hey girls I fear I am the other woman One second sorry You know what I found out the other day from somebody I won't say who This man is a gay man He's been sleeping with His next door neighbour male Who's got a girlfriend who lives there How mental is that? Whoa And he messaged him Because they were in a street group chat You know like all the neighbours Yeah yeah yeah Then the boyfriend messaged him Saying like are you up?
40:57So got his number from that group chat And then they had sex Holy And he's got a girlfriend Shit How mental Well that's mental Is it not the scariest thing? Yeah that's terrifying It's like your boyfriend could be doing anything Okay, I fear I am the other girl I am Susan I need your advice on a 20 year situationship drama that is completely draining me How old are we, sorry? What do you mean 20 years? We've got to be 40 Are we 45? Basically, there is this Brian who I have known for over 20 years We have a massive amount of history and actually dated back in school about 10 years ago Fast forward to last November I had been single for a few months and Brian suddenly popped up in an Instagram DM for a solid month we were messaging every single day very flirty we kept bringing up like old memories about when we used to date dropping hints about his memory needed reminding about what we used to get up to also drunk texting me at his christmas works do saying he can't get me out of his head well the plot thickened i later found out through the grapevine that he has actually been with his girlfriend, Sarah, for four years.
42:07And they have lived together for two. As soon as I found out, I shut it down because girl code and respect. And also, like I said to him myself, I would be devastated if I was her. What is he on? Cut to two weeks ago. He messages me out of the blue saying that he's struggling mentally and has no one else to turn to. What about your girlfriend of four years? What do you want to break up with her? He doesn't want to be with her. I tried to be a supportive childhood friend, but every time I explicitly mentioned his girlfriend or told him to lean on her or spend some quality time with her, he completely ignored it.
42:40Instead, he kept fishing for validation and even sent me a super inappropriate sexual reel blaming it on the Instagram algorithm when I called him out. The reel said, the reel said it would solve all my problems but seeing you naked would a couple. Oh, it wouldn't solve all my problems but seeing you naked would solve a couple. And he sent you that. What is he on? The final straw. Is there even reels like that on Instagram? Apparently on his algorithm. Oh my God. I didn't even know that was it. Who's posting that? Oh my God. The final straw happened this morning. So he's basically saying I've not had sex in two years.
43:20He wants you. I still live in my childhood home and it turns out the house he bought with his girlfriend two years ago is literally two streets away. right on my exact daily dog walk route. You've got to change your route, Sarah. He asked to join my morning walk while he had a day off and his girlfriend was at work. I confronted him face to face and asked what he was playing at, but I just got avoidant answers like, I don't know, and you tell me. I also said to him that I know how he feels. I felt like this with my ex and I wasn't happy, but I never crossed boundaries and would message other people.
43:55I've officially told him to leave me alone until he sorts his life out, but I am so drained. To be completely honest, I have always had incredibly strong feelings for him and my stomach does backflips every time he appears. Am I right to think he's just using me for a secret ego boost while keeping his cozy domestic life? Or is this more than just history? And should I tell the girlfriend? For context, I have never met her. Lots of love. I mean, it does sound very just sex driven. Yeah, it sounds very lustful. It sounds boredom, lustful. like I think he is probably like doing what most people do like your relationships coming to end and you're thinking okay who could I go back to like who's still around who's nearby who's nearby who's fucking around the corner oh well she is around the corner I'm gonna message her again who do I know has a soft spot for me and will reply yeah you know I think you are probably a means to an end like that real thing is disgusting disgusting you've got a girlfriend like yeah like no yeah like obviously like you're having a dry spell with your girlfriend and you think that you're going to easily get me in bed too while she's out at work.
44:57Yeah, that's disgusting. And like, I hope you're finding - And you also wouldn't feel good about that, Sarah. Like you would not feel - And she knows that. You know that, yeah. And I hope you're finding this like extremely unattractive and actually kind of like, you know, because maybe we've been fantasizing about him for literally 20 years, but this is the reality of this man. Yeah. The reality of this man is he wants to, he's actively trying to cheat on his girlfriend. And you're probably not the only girl he's messaging as well. you're just the one that that you know that he's trying there's there'll be other ones there'll be others he's trying to get in someone's knickers so bad that isn't his girlfriend and he's trying to use that sympathy card of like oh well i'm just not feeling yeah yeah yeah my relationship's not great and blah blah blah and blah blah so and it's just bullshit and like the reality of this man in a relationship is he's gonna try and cheat on you yeah like he's he's doing this don't romanticize this man because of how he used to be when you dated at school like he is not that person not at all like he's showing his true colors right now and it should be extremely off point and i think you had you stood on business and you said look yeah i don't want nothing to do with you until you've handled this like it's very weird i think maybe if he tries to contact you again maybe just say like if you keep communicating with me i'm gonna tell your girlfriend like do not communicate with me anymore because you're dragging me into this and it's like you're being a weirdo like break up with your girlfriend if you don't want to be with her yeah and then you can sleep with whoever you want not me actually but you can sleep with whoever else you want yeah like you're being weird I'm not your therapist respectfully respectfully yeah yeah like I think it's so like these like break up with her just get out of the relationship stay clear Sarah I think so like stay very clear oh this is him have you seen the image yeah dirty dirty man his kiss was like being trapped in a washing machine.
46:47Just swirling, swirling around. Swirling, swirling around. He's thinking what you're digging for. Circular motions is going to solve things. Hi girls. Love listening to the podcast. It gets me through many long days at work. I actually met a girl this morning. She just finished her run. Oh, love that. She listens on her runs but she forgot her headphones today. The runner podcast. We always say it fascinates me. Yeah. Gets me through. Yeah. I'm 25. You're a woman from Australia. I recently met a 24 year old man on hinge Let's call him Brian Nice been there We first went on a coffee date and got along instantly We could talk so easily It felt like talking to a best friend So we went on a few other dates Such as mini golf And a fancy Italian dinner I went on a mini golf date once do you remember Yeah same Fell over So embarrassing I was so drunk I think I was about 19 Sloppy Sophia Well it can't be 19 It must have been 18 Shit Sloppy that was What in the corner house Yeah Yeah Do you remember when I went on one there When did you go Who did you go with Oh my god Him I just like completely unlocked a whole memory Him I forgot all about him Yeah me too Yeah He was handsome He was very handsome yeah How did we find him I don't know how we found him Was it Sarah's friend Something like that He was very handsome to be fair He was handsome.
48:14Yeah. I feel like that was one of my first proper dates. That was first kiss, wasn't it? Yeah. Never forget it. Never forget it. Big night. Big night. And he dropped us off at that party. He was cool. I remember. He had a car. He had a car. Ooh. Yes. Yeah, me and Sarah in the back, and then we got out, and then you guys kissed. Ew! That's disgusting. Ew, that's actually disgusting. I was like, oh my God. I'd have got a boyfriend. That's disgusting. Right. Mini golf, a classic date mini golf. But also like don't take me to mini golf. No, I ain't going to mini golf now, but as a 17, 18 year old, it's a classic date.
48:54Good drinks. It's an activity. Something to focus on. Because like at that age, I don't want to sit at a table with you. No, no, no. I just don't. It's too awkward. It's just us two. It's a bit playful. It's dark in there. It's dark. Yeah. If you're at like a night one. Yeah. You know? Um... So we've gone on these nice dates. He was very good looking. Working places, paying for things. However, the issue was that he wasn't making any romantic moves. No hand holding, no kisses, no arm around me. Not even a brush of the legs, so nothing. So he was very like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I've got a story to share.
49:35Yeah? Keep going. All right. Nothing. I could tell he wanted to. and was trying to hype himself up. Unfortunately, he just never got the courage to do it. He was nervous. He was nervous. We literally talked at the Italian restaurant until it shut down. Bella Italia. Then went for a walk on the waterfront. I even pretended to be cold to cuddle up to him while we walked. Oh, I'm freezing. Yet nothing. His whole body froze up when I cuddled up to him. It wasn't just the physical. Relax. He can't relax. Chill. He's in his head. It wasn't just the physical side. I never thought I was a words of affirmation girl, but he literally never, ever even paid me a compliment on any of the dates and it started to bother me.
50:23Yeah. Okay, so he's just like, is he so nervous that he can't even utter a compliment or is he just not bothered? It's like, because it's going to get to the point where it's just like, you're just not bothered, mate. Yeah, it's confusing, isn't it? It's like, you're asking me on a date. we've been on like four dates but you've not given me any sort of like indication that you like me in a romantic way yeah and like i'm not sure if i'm feeling like much chemistry or much lust on like either side yeah so she's saying all of this is starting to bother me no compliments no touch however he continued to ask me on more dates yeah that is confusing yeah i said yes because personality wise we really did get on we went to a casual weeknight dinner and I pressed about his relationship history.
51:09Yeah, go on. It seems like he didn't have much experience at all. Just quickly mention that he talked to someone in high school and changed the subject. It was all making sense to me. However, I kept thinking if he was so nervous, I would have even preferred if he would ask, can I hold your hand or say, I want to kiss you. And then I could say, yes, go for it. That's even more. That's even more. He's not going to say that. He's not going to say that. I would like to kiss you. That is not But you would rather that And be like Yes I would like to kiss you It's giving not much relationship history Yeah Not had a girlfriend before So we walked to my car At the end of the date Yeah Once again No romantic moves were made However he proceeded to invite me To his birthday the following week With his closest 10 friends Fucking hell mate In the moment I had to be honest And tell him It was too soon For me to meet all his friends Yeah But he couldn't even hold Like he couldn't even hold my hand Or kiss me But he somehow wanted me to be in the room with all his friends.
52:07Like, what would that even look like? As we were messaging during the week, I could tell it actually really bothered him that I declined. Clearly, he couldn't understand how awkward the situation would be. We pushed past it and went on another date. Like, is it flirty? She just says it's personality. It's feeling quite platonic. Yeah. Maybe it is a bit flirty. Maybe that is why you're kind of feeling something. This time it was bowling. Oh, God. Snooze fast. Snoozeville. Don't take me fucking bowling. Bowling drunk is quite fun. Yeah. But it gets real old real quick. Oh, yeah. It's short and sweet.
52:47I'd rather go and play top golf. Well, you hit it. Yes. Or the darts. Done that once. I like that. Yeah, never done the darts. Yeah, I like that. We did it once. Did we? Yeah. Don't remember that. With our old management. Did we? Yeah, it was like a... Did we? I actually do not remember that. Maybe I've made that up. Yeah. No, no, no, we did. We did. Really? Yeah, we did. No. I don't remember that. That's what she... So we went with this time bowling. So we're covering all the activities. Yeah, we are. He's really thinking outside the box. So she said, I don't particularly like bowling. I assume this would be a good opportunity for him to make some moves and teach me how to bowl.
53:25Next, we're going to Laser Quest. How to bowl. I mean, shout out, Laser Quest. Shout out. I would smash a game of Laser Quest. I was going to say. Hair up. It's quite stress-inducing. gym leggings on trainers like taking it serious good workout I bet there's adult laser quest yeah those parties would come out so sweaty it was just it was a drag like it was actually scary it was quite scary like it was actually scary um so she's thinking it's gonna be like intimate it's gonna teach me how to bowl it's gonna be quite cozy yeah yeah yeah quite cozy we still had a good chat but unfortunately we got to the end of the date and no romantic moves yeah this is getting long now it's getting boring as well yeah it's like we're five we're probably about five or six dates in at this point you've not even held my hand No And you've also Not even complimented me That's a big thing Yeah You should be complimenting me On date one You're not like Wow Date one Yeah We should be leading Every time Because like This is actually affecting me now Yeah So nothing Just saying No moves made at all I made the decision That after five dates I needed to know If we had chemistry or not If we were just So this was the fifth Like we feel just like friends Yeah So Yeah is it just like You're just going to have to make the move, babe.
54:34Yeah. You're just going to have to grab his face and do it. And do it. See what happens. Fuck. So I think this is what she's about to do. So we walked into the car and he gave me a long hug. She said this was his signature move. Oh, a long hug. So he's not learned how to transition this hug into a smooch. Yeah. Into anything. So when we pulled back from the hug, I just went in for the kiss. Like shaving your whole body for no reason. It's exhausting. I'm getting razor bumps. Yeah, yeah. So she said, I went in for the kiss. Oh, go on. So I was just going in for a soft, quick kiss. But all of a sudden, he started moving his lips at such a pace.
55:12It was like I was being trapped in a washing machine. Oh, no. We pulled back and he said, what's that bad? Oh, for God's sake. Oh, me. Well, it wasn't great, especially after you've just said that. Was that bad? At least own it and try and be confident about your technique. He's really not got. Unfortunately I couldn't lie in the moment And sheepishly Sorry Sheepishly Said yes He's never recovering that But then laughed it off And said it's okay It could be awkward kissing someone For the first time Trying to find each other's rhythm Oh no guys So we kissed again And it was only 5 % better So I pulled back and said Let's pick this up next time Shit Oh it's feeling a little bit But look Snuck Marry Avoid tutorial Yeah she said look Look I left in good spirits Not Snuck Marry Avoid Angus Thongs and Perfect She left in good spirits.
56:02Because obviously it was like, finally. With kiss. You know, at least we've crossed that barrier. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I could see him walk off pretty dejected. Well, yeah, he's just shot it. Dejected, that's a good word. Yeah. He shot it.
56:18The thing was. I'm just noting it's a good word. I like it. The thing was, is that I still liked how well we could talk to each other. So, we're getting on. You are getting on. And even though the kiss was very bad, I thought I'd give him another shot. Yeah. Chance number seven. I'm exhausted. I've run out of outfits. I've used all my jeans and tops. Well, she's right in this off. I've got nothing else to give. What are we doing? Mini golf again. Back to the beginning. I'm not going mini golf again, babe. She's right in this off as pure nerves, but at least we've crossed that barrier. Yeah. Like we've crossed the physical barrier.
56:50He just needs to relax. I think his problem is he's not relaxed. I think he's - He's so tense in his head. I think he is lacking experience and he is maybe self-conscious about that and it's all just coming out in nerves and panic. Get a drink down you. Get a drink down you. I know, have a few beers. Get a drink down you. Liquid courage. Surely that will loosen you up and give you that confidence, confidence juice. Confidence juice. Confidence juice. Right, so she's saying one more shot. The thing that was nagging at me was that I had to completely create a moment for us to kiss. Yeah, it wasn't romantic at all.
57:26We were literally in a parking garage And therefore were struggling to feel any chemistry So you're thinking, let's create a new moment Somewhere dimly lit, cozier So I decided to give him one more date This time, deciding I would not initiate any of the moves Yeah, you would hope this time It's like, come on I wanted to see if he would finally take the lead We were walking around some food markets It's not really snog material, is it? And my hand was right there. So you were hanging your hand down open. Also, I guess the annoying thing is, like it's not coming naturally to either of you in this moment.
58:06And so far. And you know what it's giving? We're not having any natural chemistry or like touch or like comfortability. We're so awkward with each other. And it's giving training seasons over. Training seasons over. Trazing. Trazing seasons over. training season's over like you're training this man how to kiss you yeah we don't need to be doing that no you're training him how to hold your hand no like come on so my hand was literally dangling there I was waiting for him to grab it or something and she said lo and behold once again nothing oh my god fuck this guy seriously we hugged goodbye and I left another long hug great you rocked my world oh god yeah I think we're gonna call it now sack it off now Sarah he could tell it was awkward at the end And so he sent me a message asking for another date.
58:55No. I'm so fed up of you. It's unbelievable. It's actually boring now. I'm so fucking bored of you, Brian. No. So she said, I had to be honest and tell him, I don't know where this is going. Yeah, good for you. Because there's been no romantic progression and we've been on six dates. Fucking hell. That's six weeks probably. Six dates. Yeah. Like, I think we - You could have seen a lot more of him by this point. She said, look, I think we're on very different pages because while he was aware of the fact he wasn't making moves, his response to me breaking things off was as if he was so in love with me.
59:30Saying things like, it would suck for us to lose this. Lose what? The chats we've had. And he was quite literally begging me to reconsider. Screenshots attached. It wasn't really, I wasn't really sure what we'd be losing other than a friendship. Yeah. So he said, hey, Sarah, thanks for today. it's amazing mark oh formal I feel like I left things a bit awkward there at the end oh my god this guy this guy I am so uncomfortable for you right now Sarah this guy this guy this is so awkward so I feel like I left things a bit awkward there at the end after last time but I'm really enjoying spending time with you and would love to see you again soon exclamation mark it's so platonic she said hey Brian thanks for today full stop Honestly.
1:00:25Full stop. Honestly. Honestly, I'm not really sure where this is heading. I am.
1:00:34I really enjoyed talking to you and getting to know you. However, after six dates, there hasn't really been any romantic progression. Great line. I've kind of been waiting to see if you'll grab my hand, put your arm around me, going for a kiss or even a compliment. But nothing has really happened unless I've initiated. this makes me think we aren't romantically compatible that was a beautiful message lovely very mature succinct paragraph also you're being direct you're being to the point you're saying this this and this is what's lacking like you've not done this yeah it's atrocious then he said is it atrocious i've already got you
1:01:14he said what you're feeling is completely fair and honestly i don't have any great reasons to to why I haven't. Beyond just getting into my head way too much. I'm definitely very attracted to you and honestly, I'm sorry I haven't shown that. It's news to me, mate. And made you feel that way and that's not really fair to you. If you would be open to it, I would definitely like to see you again and I'll make sure I don't make you feel this way again. Oh, I mean, it's quite sweet, really. She said, look, I really do appreciate your response and hearing your perspective. This is like a work email.
1:01:44This is so formal. Kind regards. I know. Just circling back here. Sarah's made a good point here. She said, look, I think we're past the point where any initiation would feel genuine. Yeah, because like now it's like this next date. It's forced. It's forced. And like you're going to be even more weird. Like you're so awkward. It's not capping that. It's not going to happen naturally now. This is such a chat GBT response from him, I fear. He said, I'm really sorry to hear. I'm really sorry to hear that, Sarah. Are you something, something, something? Are you fed up? Yes. He said, I feel really strongly for you.
1:02:19And I promise I've really wanted to allow those things. And I really, and it really just, and it really just something, it really just something and not any backer feelings for you. For me, it'd feel like such a loss if this was it. If you really are certain, I'm so sorry to hear it. And I wish you the best too. For what it's worth, you really did look beautiful today. and you have and you have every time we've gone out it's just like too late too late mate you can't just I've just said I've just said you don't compliment me you just have well you did look beautiful it's like well I've just it doesn't make sense now it's irrelevant yeah I'm really sorry I don't want to be pushy or anything I just don't want it to end like this I really like you wasting your breath save your fucking breath I just really like you she said thank you for saying all that I thank you for the above she's just said i think it's best for us to be like decline so we can grow and develop individually i'm sorry it has ended like this truly wish all the best i'm really sorry to hear that sarah he keeps coming back i just really enjoyed my time with you and i think you're amazing i hate to do this again but i'd i'd hate it more if i didn't can you just sleep on it oh if it now it's like you're desperate you're begging me if you feel the same way tomorrow i understand and i won't bother you again but if there's any point of you that still wants to give this another go it would suck for us to lose this enthusiasm come from mate she said look i appreciate it i just think for the reasons i've already mentioned it's not gonna work yeah please accept that fair enough sarah i just wish you the best so my question is is do you think i did the right thing yes yes absolutely i feel like i did yeah just because he was a nice guy doesn't mean he was the right guy exactly this is this is something we need exactly like he's nice and also i guess he's showing interest now that he likes us but that it's too little too late yeah at the same time i do feel like a bitch for breaking his heart you it's fine yeah it's fine sarah like you're allowed to break up with a nice guy and just because he's friendly doesn't mean that you can ultimately like excuse kind of bad behavior like i know he didn't do anything like wrong wrong but at the end of the day like if you're going on dates with someone the least you expect with a guy that you like is you want to feel chemistry you want to get have butterflies you want to feel like oh my god this guy is obsessed with me like he thinks i'm the fittest thing on the planet like you want to feel that chemistry and that spark and you don't want to feel like you've got to take the reins and this is like forced awkwardness and like at the end of the day like you probably left those dates feeling a little bit deflated probably quite disheartened a bit shit like and yeah you're kind of clinging on to like oh well yeah he was nice and we have good convo we have that in common you know lovely but that's what you look for in a mate like not what you need a lot more when it comes to a partner and also like so i think you've definitely made the right call here and also i think it's a rite of passage to break up with a nice guy i think so also you don't want to get to date six and he's like sorry that was so awkward like that is so we should be way past that by now yeah like date one we get all the awkwardness out then it shouldn't be like awkwardness shouldn't be a thing like it should be chemistry should be flowing it should be natural like I don't want to have to train you I don't want to have to tell you hold my hand no put your arm around me you're not a child like leaning for a kiss yeah like come on and then like you don't I don't want no no also like I've told you I want to leave this here stop messaging me now yeah it's getting a bit it's a shame because like personality like you had nice conversations but I fear also it just sounds like he's never had a girlfriend before so it does sound like okay maybe you know you could pick up some kissing and some holding your hands, but it sounds like he's never had a girlfriend before.
1:06:09You're going to be training him how to be a good boyfriend. Number one, it's too much. He needs to go and get some experience before. It doesn't sound like a relationship where you would get to sit in your feminine, you know, sit back and chill. No, it sounds like he'd be doing things. You don't have to be calling upon it, being like, boyfriends don't do that. And like teaching him how to be a good boyfriend. I'm really sorry. I'm really sorry. I'm just learning. No, you didn't make the right decision. I agree. it's time for our star of the week i would like to nominate my brian for brian of the week his name is brad hi brad we don't have many brads in england really i know a brad oh really yeah but it's not a very common name that to me is like brad yeah i know it's like the jack of america i feel like yeah i guess there's bradley's bradley but bradley is not that common here i No, we had a school, Bradley, didn't we?
1:07:02Did we? Yeah, Bradley. School. Did we? Yeah. We weren't in the same circle. No. We have just come back from the best, most romantic trip of our lives. Oh, yeah, girls. We went to Skiathos in Greece, where some parts of the Mamma Mia film was filmed. I'm gagging for Greece. So it's always been my dream to go there, and we finally booked it. And after two and a half years of being together, we proposed. Oh, well done, Brad. Well done, Brad. It was so romantic. He found a spot on the beach, looking out to the sea, and the sun was setting. I turned around. He was on one knee, and of course, I said yes.
1:07:41It was the best moment ever, and he really spoiled me the whole trip and treats me like a princess every day. I would like Brad to be Brian of the Week because he is the most gorgeous, kind person ever. Well done, Brad. Thank you for being here. Congratulations, Brad and Sarah, on your engagement. Absolutely. Wow. In Greece, I want to go where Mamma Mia was filmed. What a place. Wow. Congratulations to Sarah and Ryan. Congratulations, everyone. Well, that brings us to a close, Sophia. Did you do your word? Sophia, I said my word within the first second and you didn't even clock. I said it straight away.
1:08:17What did you say? Elated. I said, oh, I'm elated with that. I'm elated with that. That is so smart. It's the glasses. It's really got us today. I said it straight up way we need harder words I think I know I got caught out today but we need words that are more like out of our whack where we started yeah because I think that was too far I think we need a good middle ground yeah bring back precipitation you know I think that's what that's what that's the challenge we need because I slipped that in so you didn't even I wasn't even aware the game had started I said I'm elated with that wow she took us all by storm today get those glasses on next week i will well thank you so much for listening everyone if you have a dilemma or a star of the week entry you can email hello at thegirlsbathroom.com follow us on youtube um instagram and tiktok thank you see you on monday and we'll see you back here next wednesday
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Does anyone else have a strong hatred for pork chop night? If you do... then you're listening to the right podcast! The girls reminisce on their favourite meals and read out your current hyperfixation go tos in this week's Question of the Week. PLUS, what is wet, soggy and goes round and round? Ask our Sarah, because she has had a bad experience with a Brian who kisses like a washing machine... and of course, the girls play the word game. Is today the day Cinzia finally catches Sophia out?
Word Game 🎯
Sophia: atrocious
Cinzia: elated
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