Boy Talk: His whatsapp was locked…now I know why!!

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1:18what's up you guys what is going on everybody peace and pout everyone let's arrive gently let's take a deep breath sorry that was a bit of a snotty sniff me too slightly nasal but it's fine i'm slightly nasal this morning yeah i think it's the sudden and we're both on our period oh my god let me tell you blood sisters unite this week let me tell you i just feel like there's been extra blood coming out this month that's funny because i feel like So much blood. You must have taken mine because I feel like I've barely had any. And I'm like, what's going on? Like, where is it? Jealous. Well, I've just stopped wearing my tampon.

2:01I said, yeah, I'm done now. Like, I'm over it. You've decided it's over. Yeah. Like, I went to the toilet one time and there was another thought. That's it then. I'm finished now. I'm not putting on the tampon in. I had a bit of a surprise because mine arrived like four days early. Oh. And I didn't have anything. See, I'm not tracking. You're not tracking. But yeah, that would be a shot. We were away at the weekend. I was like, oh my God, my period's arrived and I have nothing. And you were in the farm. And we were in the farm. So what did you do? Well, luckily, I had two in the bottom of a random tote bag that I packed.

2:37Very smart. I had an old one. I was like gathering. I was like, where the hell can I get? Because at the farm, they have these natural ones, no applicator. I thought I can't do that. Not the little bullets. I can't do that. I don't know how that works. I can't do that. It's the fingers. I know. I was like, I just can't. So I was, I had basically, long story short, it was, it started on Friday. We were leaving on Sunday. I had four. Mine started on Friday. What's going on? That's pretty incredible. I had four tampons. I had to like ration. Yeah. I made it work. Wow. I got creative. I made it work.

3:14Oh no, I guess they had the natural bullets. They had the natural bullets. Yeah. Luckily when I went to the toilet, I asked someone, she gave me one. And I was like fucking rationing them as much as I could. But I was so light. I was like, I'm never, they were just regular. I was, I'm going to go through this in two hours. But it was so light that I was like, what's going on? Like God was really on my side because like I managed to make those last. Wow. Different story of a hair girlfriend. Yeah. Well, now I'm like, whenever I go anywhere, always have a tampon. Always just buy extra tampons. I was going to pack like a box and I was like, oh, I'm not due till next week.

3:50Like I'm not packing that. Like I'm at full capacity. I've got all these bags. You didn't even have your nappies. Nope. Neither did I. Went completely nappy-less. What's your story then? Well, my story was went to bed, went to bed Thursday evening as usual. No suspicions. Me neither. Nothing. Wake up in the middle of the night. Pain. Agony. Clutching my stomach. Oh no. Doubled over on the bed. Like this. I didn't even check my, I think it was. like 3, 4am and I was like trying to sleep through it, trying to sleep through it. Poor thing. Naked and afraid in the bed. Absolutely. Then I was like I'm gonna have to get up, get the Feminax, get up, get the Feminax so got up naked, walked through into the kitchen got the Feminax and I was like kicking, kicking, got back in bed and then that was my night.

4:36Smashing your belly. Chintzy's got this thing where she whacks her belly and it just makes me shiver. It helps. It releases And when she's got a headache she bangs her head like the opposite, your opposite instinct she's like bang i think the science is is you you release the tension yeah like there's those headache hats yeah and it's like yeah the migraine hat yeah and you put them on it's so tight that it releases the tension i think there's some science to it and the scientists will back me up the scientists listening but yes i woke up a bit like oh frazzled and then blood everywhere crime scene literal crime like it's just like why because remember we had that thing and it was like Apparently it's only two tablespoons.

5:17I just can't believe that. It's not. But this month, I'm like, I believe it. But then the people who wear the silicone cups and they take them out and they do videos of it and they pour out. It's like a liter of blood. A whole pint. But you know, have you seen the new developments with the silicone things? No, please let me know. Someone's invented a silicone cup thing and it's got a little silicone string. So it's not like you're just putting a cup up there. It's got a little silicone string and they've invented a plastic applicator that you put the silicone in so you can actually insert it like a normal, like a sandbag to pearl.

5:51Low key. Okay. We should like explore. But then the applicator's like that thick. That terrifies me. It's like...

6:02It's like... Like it's like, yeah. Chunky. Chunky. You know, on just like a dry, you know, vagina that's just like bleeding. It's not, it's not comfortable. It's not comfortable that. But yeah, I sit soon on TikTok. Okay. Well, that's really interesting. But then you've got a boiler. You've got to pour your own blood out. I mean, listen. I imagine blood gets everywhere. I'm not going to lie to you. I'm not going to do that. But it's good for the turtles. Yeah. Think of the turtles. I know. But like America's still using plastic straws. So. It won. Plastic cups, plastic lids, plastic straws. But I can't get, but those plastic straws, hard plastic.

6:37Hard. Like, like, like the hard, like hard plastic. Yeah. Like a proper, like, you would put it in the dishwasher plastic. And they're just going in the bin. I mean, I loved it. I loved it. That iron spanner from La La Land was like the best beverage I think we've ever had. But those hard, like, hard plastic. Like, not like the flimsy plastic. No, no, no, no, no. Like a Tupperware, a baby cup plastic. Like dishwasher reusable. You could buy a pack, like, they're like reusable. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But they were single use. I couldn't believe it. Shocking. Yeah, absolutely. Well, happy Wednesday, everyone.

7:16Welcome back to the Girls' Bathroom. If you're our fellow blood sister, shout out. I mean, mine's done now. But if you were last Friday, shout out. Just know we were too. Shout out. Okay, so. What's my cue of the dog? Oh, absolutely. Find out. You got a headshot. Yeah. Oh, okay. All right. Yeah, absolutely. Oh, it's like a bell. Yeah. It's the return of the wire headphones as well. I've been seeing. I never left the wire headphones. Oh, I know me neither. We were always wire headphone girls. But now they're officially cool again. No charge. Because I also bought, these are new wire headphones.

7:47Yeah, they're nice. I bought a new pair. I just don't like them at the gym. Oh, I like them at the gym. But yeah, you can't do weights and stuff. Yeah, I'm having to put my phone down. Yeah, it's not right. But like, you know, on a commute, I love a wire headphone. Yeah, gorgeous. I really do. Okay, so our question of the week is, what's an irrational deal breaker you have that you can't explain okay here we go he has to wake up before me and make a good homemade coffee that's nice i like that yeah like i don't really want to be waking up first i also don't want to be falling asleep i don't know sorry sorry sorry i need to be falling asleep first you can't fall asleep before me otherwise i'm stressed now and I'm going to have to wake you up.

8:31No, that's awful. They have to have an iPhone. Yes. We've had experience with that. And the Android ick is really real. It's actually disgusting. We've had experience with that. Yeah. A couple of boyfriends ago. They cannot listen to Westlife. Okay. That just gives you the ick then. That's an irrational deal breaker. You know the one to go on tour just as two of them? Which two? No. The bold guy and one of the other guys. Don't know. But they're going on tour just as a duo. Wow. They've called it The Wanted 2.0. There's just two of them. Okay. Yeah. The wanties. What's The Wanted song? We weren't wanted girls, but I appreciate it.

9:10Chasing the sun. Oh, yeah. They say these days never done. We weren't really wanted girls, were we? And we'll be chasing the sun. I think I went to see them once live. Really? I think ****** had two tickets and she took me a lot. Well, she didn't take me then. What a bitch. He has to be able to stack a dishwasher correctly. Yeah. I don't know how to correctly stash a dishwasher, I'll be honest. Well, my dishwasher is all higgled and piggled. Yeah, mine is too. As long as it goes in, I don't care. I'm not bothered, to be honest. Not bothered. He cannot wear jorts. Listen, I've seen some cool kids in jorts.

9:45Listen. And I like a jort as well. And I, like, Sophia actually brought the jort forward. Sophia was wearing jorts two years ago. Do you remember when we were bullying you about your jorts? that was two years ago that I've ordered some jorts when was that? yeah that was a couple years ago but the two years is I've ordered some jorts of Jade in London yeah so I'm really in with the kids oh I love that for me but I don't know if they suit me I don't think they suit me either but I just like them because sometimes we're in our streetwear yeah we can be cool like we go to Kith and stuff oh duh represent duh yeah I like jorts I don't think they like I don't know I'm not sure they suit me either but like I like it it's comfy it's freeing it's freeing and I'm covered it's a baggy in a hot day it's a baggy short no chafe I don't want to wear jeans but I don't want to wear little denim shorts and like a jaw absolutely covers the knee yeah keeps it halfway keeps it Christian the culottes yeah well essentially a jaw is a culott yeah just a more like you'd wear a culott with a heel yeah I wore a culott with a heel at the weekend get to know it's like one mind well it was like a suit jaw yeah well jaw's at the weekend That's a colotte.

10:56It's a colotte. Love a colotte. If he actively eats baked beans. I love baked beans. I actively eat baked beans, but I have not had some in a minute. I had beans on toast for breakfast at the farm. It was heaven. Brown sauce. Beans on toast with cheese. Fried egg. Loads of cheese. Just cheese. Insane. Give me a bowl of baked beans any day, babes. With smiley faces. Not homemade baked beans. I don't like where places have like homemade baked beans. No, no, no. No, no, no. Stop pissing about. I don't want your barbecue home made barbies. I want your Heinz beans. With some smiley faces. Yeah. If he wears Alexander McQueen trainers.

11:34Yeah. That's also a deal breaker for myself. Look, they had their time in 2016. Yeah, they had their moment. Maybe we should go to the wanted 2.0. I think we would know more songs than they realize. Yeah. I think we would know more songs than we think. Chasing the sun and then missing the one. There's got to be one more. What shit's not? I'm glad you came Really they're quite like Dancy songs I'm glad you came I'm going back to chasing the sun I can't find the difference between them Did you forget about the All time low I'm in pieces I'm in pieces How do you get it from an all time low That's quite dark actually Yeah That's quite sad Well, Max, the bold one, he's got to be 50.

12:29Because he was like... He's got to be 76. But he was like 28 back then. It's not been 20 years, has it? But he was always older than 1D. I think Harry's 30, so he's got to be 45. He's got to be pushing 50. Right. Watch out, he's 32. Yeah. Yeah. But he was always bold though, wasn't he? Was that just a stylistic choice? Yeah, I think I like it. Yeah. I'm not opposed to it at all. So this is an irrational deal breaker. He cannot fart within the three months of dating. Yeah. Well, that's just manners, hey? Yeah. And also, we just got to keep the illusion alive just in the honeymoon. As long as we can, for goodness sake.

13:12Because I don't actually want to be hearing or smelling or tasting anything. Well. He must have a mullet and a goatee. okay i've never experienced a molitora goatee it's australian definitely giving australia they can't get travel sick yeah like i get travel sick sorry well yeah but we can't both be getting travel that's true so then we're just gonna be terrible vomiting yeah we both can't have flight anxiety we both can't have car sickness no what a nightmare yeah our kids would be absolutely all over the place yeah and also like if we're in a cab there's only one front seat and like i'm gonna take that exactly we can't exactly like you're traveling in the back yeah maybe sorry um they have to always sleep on the left side of the bed okay i understand that okay yeah i understand i'm not precious about what side i'm on to be honest me neither it's more of a feeling yeah it's more of a feeling of the room you know how do i feel when i enter the room which side i want to sleep on what do i gravitate towards you know because i would say probably furthest from the door but sometimes it's not really the case because sometimes it's just a bigger side at one side of the door.

14:20Yeah. Maybe with a nice plug. Or I might want to be, yeah, a nice plug is always nice. Because sometimes like, I actually don't want to be next to the window and sometimes the window is the opposite side of the door. Yeah, and sometimes it's nicer to be near the toilet in case of an emergency. Absolutely. An emergency feminac situation. God, don't remind me of that. The torturous evening. The torturous night. If he's shadow boxes in the gym. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I mean, are the professionals doing that? Like it's Tyson Fury, like it's Tommy Fury doing that like yes Molly why don't you give her a call Molly Mae are they doing that I think they probably are don't ask me honey they probably are so practice yeah yeah yeah but we don't need Daniel down the road doing it in front of us do we I mean I'll never forget once when my old hairdresser told me that she slept with a guy and woke up and he was shadowboxing in the mirror and it just gave her like the worst ick because like he also thought that he looked really like sexy and like really like And he probably had sex the night before he woke up.

15:19He thought I got a sexy girl in bed. Yeah, like you did it, mate. You did it. You're the man. You did it. You're the man. And she was just like, oh my God, I've got to go. That's rough. I've got to go. Yeah, that's rough. If he pronounces vitamins like in America, vitamins. Vitamins. So how would you say that in English? Vitamins. Vitamins. Vitamins, yeah. Vitamins. Because who was it that said paracetamol? I was like why do you call it that? Paracetamol She always said paracetamol It's definitely paracetamol We've got here men that have pictures of them holding fish Oh no sorry gotta go Gotta go On the train actually yesterday I saw loads of men fishing On the train?

16:07I drove past Tell me about that I drove past I drove past Okay yeah And I just thought Have you ever been fishing? No I mean I eat fish would I enjoy the art of killing them myself probably not probably revert me back to veganism fishing as a I went fishing once with a friend as a child like we just got given two fishing rods and just got to sit on this lake I did yeah but I got really scared and I just like threw I just threw it all into the river babes yeah I got really scared so I just like let it go I just like chucked the whole thing in but that was a talent it's a skill you know if that was your first time You caught some good catch.

16:47Thank you. If they don't have healthy gums, an inflamed gum is pretty rough. Oh, yeah. Pretty rough. If he posts selfies. Yeah, got to go. That'll do it. Leave it to the ladies. Yeah. Leave it to the professionals. Let us do what we do best. Absolutely. You know, let us have our thing. Absolutely. Right. Well, shall I dive straight into the first dilemma? Please, take it away, Chins. I'd love that. I'd really enjoy that.

17:12just before we get into it quick disclaimer just as we are not doctors we are not professionals we do not actually know what we are talking about this is a light-hearted space okay don't take what we say literally because we could be wrong yeah and if there's anything serious if there's anything you feel like you're seriously struggling with please contact a gp a professional because that is not us we're just girls girls and boys just like you we're just trying to get through life as well not professionals enjoy the episode enjoy

17:41Dilemma number one Sarah says here I guess boys and girls really can't be friends So we've crossed the boundary here We've crossed the boundary here And something's happened My girls, I think the situation has been my Roman Empire for the past year It's about time I got some outsider advice So this story is about my guy best friend She says Taylor's oldest time I have always believed that boys and girls can be friends And I thought I found the best example of my own Ah, so she's always said Yeah Of course I can be friends Because she's had a boy best friend Okay Yeah I was best friends with this boy Brian for five years I met him through one of the guys I was talking to at the time His best friend We got along straight away At the time it was a very brotherly friendship I didn't see him romantically and neither did he.

18:37I guess, yeah, if you're meeting him through your boyfriend, it's you're never looking at him in that way. No. As the years went on, we became even closer. I moved away for uni and he stayed home and decided to just work. We'd FaceTime all the time. He would fly over to my uni for my birthday every year. Fly on a plane. Wow. Effort. Yeah. for my birthday every year and even go for dinner with my family without me even being there whoa his mum would message me on the daily you get the gist so you were besties besties our families always wanted us together they were convinced we were in love high school sweethearts and hadn't realized it but we and that we hadn't realized it just yet around my third year of uni I got a placement and moved cities for the job.

19:29I was on my own probably for the first time ever. And during my time alone, I decided to download Hinge. I've had situations with guys throughout the years, but I was never one to date. I've never had a boyfriend because as my friends say, my standards are very high. So downloading Hinge was a new year's resolution to get out of my comfort zone and meet new people. Lovely. Nice. As I started to go on dates and meet all these guys, I will call my friends and tell them all about it Brian included In the first six months of my placement There was no one I properly liked And I was completely fine with that Until one day I went on a date And I was completely smitten This person was perfect for me So I thought Where are we going?

20:13It's giving me like love rosy anxiety Well it's giving that Brian's going to be like Don't date these boys, date me Like you've never had a boyfriend Because like well you've always kind of been in love with Brian Like you're comparing everyone to Brian I actually not realized it. And also you've always had that kind of male presence of like someone showing up for you, like coming to your birthdays. Yeah. Obviously just without relationship things. The physicalities. Okay, so you've met someone that you really like. How does Brian feel about this? Right. So she said, so I thought this person was perfect for me.

20:41We had the same humor, values, hobbies. He was of course easy on the eyes. So I began going on more dates with this person. Brian would call me and I would tell him all about it and it was honestly so fine. I didn't second guess anything I was saying once. So in that moment, she genuinely was just like, I'm telling my friend Brian about this guy I've met. Also quite handy sometimes because it's like, what do you think this means as a guy? It's a great sounding board sometimes when you are dating someone to have that male friendship because it's like, what would you do? What do you think this means?

21:14It's pretty useful. Three months later, being now exclusive with this man, I found out he was cheating. that's a story for another time she said so obviously i was quite upset as you as you do as you do i went to the people i trust so as you do i went to the people i trust and love the most and again one of those people was brian brian being the person i thought he was what was getting dark was supportive and helped me get out of this rut okay okay so this guy was a twat cheated on you lent into your friends one being brown A month later, I fly back home for Easter. As soon as I got back, I started calling and messaging people, letting them know I'm here.

22:02I would love to see them. Most people replied, but I heard nothing back from Brian. Strange. Yeah. Like, I'm home. Yeah. Let's hang out. I thought it was a bit weird, but didn't think too much of it. Other people in my friend group were speaking to him and organizing plans, but I still hadn't received a reply until I did. He was very distant and nonchalant. I thought maybe it was a phase he was having, so I left it. Over the four years of being friends, we'd had our moments, but never like this. So she didn't see him. I flew back to my job and carried on with my life. But now the FaceTime calls I used to get from Brian stopped.

22:42The messages would come every two days and the TikTok notifications stopped. I thought maybe he's going through something, I'll give him space. Three months go by And I get a call from my friend Susan And she says I've heard a rumour about you What? Where are we going? I was taken aback and I immediately said what's the rumour? The rumour was that Brian was going around Saying that I was in love with him And that I talk about guys to make him jealous What? They just put what? When I tell you I was speechless So he's going around saying that You are in love with him to make him jealous. You're in love with him and you speak about other boys to him.

23:27But why would that make you jealous, Brian? Unless you cared, Brian. To get jealous, to make him jealous. But why would he... I don't know. Why is he trying to sabotage you? I thought he loved you. I thought you were friends. Do you know what I mean? Why would he make that up? He's just out of himself. I don't know. But he's just out of himself as liking you because he said if that makes you jealous, that means you like me. She's trying to make me jealous, but I don't care. Oh. oh, okay. Yeah, I don't care. She's in love with, right. Okay, right. So I was speechless. And for context, I talked for England.

24:00In my head, I was thinking, that's not true. There's no way. I tried to find out who Susan got the information from, but she refused to tell me. Susan, mate. Oh, Susan. I trust Susan, so I was just very shocked. Two days go by and my brain is jumping off the wall, so I decide to call him. I told him about the rumor and explained what I heard. and said if I did something that could be misinterpreted, like tell me. He denied it. He didn't ask who told me. He wasn't angry. He simply said, I didn't say that. That's it. What's going on? So I obviously don't know what to say. I just said, oh, okay. Right.

24:36Well, I wanted to ask. We carry on speaking, but it's me carrying this conversation on my back. I start to explain I haven't heard from you in ages. I would appreciate more effort from you in this friendship. He agreed with me and apologized. He said he has been so busy with his new job and hasn't had time to do anything at all. But will call me next week and we can catch up. I was like, okay, great. Sounds good. That was nine months ago. You could have birthed a whole child in that time. Literally, I didn't get the call. And we have not spoken since. Unless you could count a birthday message, which was, happy birthday, Sarah.

25:09Wish you all the best. So girls, tell me what the hell happened. Pick up me and Brian. What? He's in love with you. It sounds like he hates you He's a lover He can't handle his emotions There's some things Gone down Do you want to see the visual? Yeah I'd love to He's confused Oh gosh Sarah you look gorgeous Yeah stunning I don't really know Honestly give him a couple I'm very confused Like this was always A great friend Let me just try and think Your families were friends I'm just getting my powers And then Like do you think The reason the friendship worked Was because like You'd never really had a boyfriend You'd never had a relationship because that's the only thing that changed you then got a boyfriend you really liked him you got in a relationship and that's when the friendship dynamic switched so it's got to be around that I would imagine because I was then also like you're broken up like you're not with that guy anymore and he had the chance when you were coming to him heartbroken to kind of then yeah if he liked you that much but it's weird because or do you think maybe he's dating someone and his girlfriend okay at the time is sort of saying like i don't i don't like this girl maybe there's more going on in his life that's actually not about you and maybe he's got people on his side or a girl being like you can't speak to her yeah because you guys were really close and did do a lot of things together and he was like a part of the family.

26:41I do feel like there's a big piece of the puzzle that you don't really know here because it doesn't really make sense. Yeah it's a a new girl who said you can't talk to her anymore but don't tell her it was me like just stop. That is quite plausible. But then I feel like you would have heard that he's got a girlfriend like through the grapevine like through Susan. And also like if our families are friends and our families want us to be together can't the mums be like what's going on? Like have you heard anything about him? I know There's something we don't know here I think he always thought that you would be around without a boyfriend And he kind of liked that situation When he actually realised Oh she's actually like She actually doesn't want me She's actually actively dating someone else He kind of just like broke his own heart And he's pushed you away Yeah that's a really good point And then he didn't like that you were coming to him and crying about other guys Like he wants to be the guy and he in his like avoidant way he's like push you away yeah and and like that's and he can't even like speak to you properly he's like i'd like to think in time you might reconnect well just also like just get older like get to the bottom of what actually has happened here because it feels very vague right now and like i'm trying to talk to you i've asked if there's a problem you've told me there's not i've heard this rumor you've said you haven't said it like well he's You probably realize that Sarah's not in love with him.

28:01Me, yeah. Because you're not. She's not even said that she likes him in that way at all. And he probably has been, to be honest, because I saw a picture of you, Sarah. You look gorgeous. And that realization of that is like, oh my God. Maybe that hit him like a ton of bricks. And he was like, what am I doing? Yeah, and he's just trying to move on. Yeah. And then by him doing that, he's treating you poorly. And he couldn't upkeep the friendship. What a shame. What a shame. what a shame but like the only reason for this breakdown is like there had to have been feelings involved like I just felt like he had feelings because otherwise what else has changed it doesn't just happen why are you talking about saying like she's trying to make me jealous like he's projecting his own insecurities because he's the one feeling jealous when we're supposed to be mates yeah like he's the one feeling he's actually feeling jealous because you're dating other guys sorry that you got in that pickle Sarah that's a real shame that's really disappointing what is a shame because you thought he was like a good friend yeah yeah

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30:12okay we're back for dilemma two we have had a i've not even got me mic sorry we've had a beverage spillage for myself smooth it was it was from sophia's side not me just completely tumbled

30:30oh my god oh my god oh my god oh my god I'm just proud that it wasn't me to be honest sorry have let us down Blippi we have a catastrophe in here but it's absolutely delightful and it's absolutely fine we have got our beverages I was really selfless and gave Sophia some of my smoothie. I refuse, refuse, refuse. But I insisted, insisted, insisted. She wanted to be able to have that moment. Because I'm a sister in this moment. Absolutely. And I would want the same in return. So sometimes you've got to sacrifice. I'll never forget that. I'll never forget that. Generosity. I'm going to hold that close to my heart.

31:12Thank you. Okay, so dilemma number two. Turns out my eyesight wasn't the problem. He was. Yeah, that'll do it. Okay, glasses queen. hello i had the longest most spicy tea and would love to hear your thoughts on this spicy i have a friend let's call her sarah we are not super close but close enough to hang out yeah i have met her boyfriend brian a couple of times brian felt nice enough no big negatives or positives really either that's funny they turn the negative to positive isn't that a drink song oh pimple i want all of you mr 305 that's what she did also that's quite funny like no negatives but no positives either you're just like nah he's okay yeah like not that memorable like not much to say about him yeah i like that so for a short backstory we all used to live in the same city but a year ago sarah moved back to her home down due to a job opportunity.

32:22This was quickly after they started dating. The city is close-ish. They do see each other often. I hadn't seen them in a while, but I saw them quickly last week at an event as they were walking past and said quick hellos. Now get ready for the rollercoaster. Today I was walking back home with a few of my friends and since we came from the pool, I wasn't wearing my contact lenses. One thing about me is that I don't recognize people. You don't wear contacts at the pool? I've never thought about it I'm going to have to ask Lady Bayless Zullo She would know I feel like I've seen her with contacts on by the But maybe our Sarah is swimming One thing about me is I don't recognise people easily Nor do I see far without my contact lenses We were chatting with our group And all of a sudden I can see this couple Walking towards us holding hands Well Brian has a very distinct style And it looked very much like him Holding hands with some girl Who definitely does not look like Sarah Another girl Oh shit.

33:16And I knew she wasn't in the city anymore. I asked the group if they saw him and was it him, but they were all focusing on other stuff. And when they turned around to look, they had sprinted off and were not visible. So we just continued home. So it's like he saw you. Yes. You guys. When I got home, I was talking to my boyfriend and telling him what I may have seen, but I wasn't sure if I should tell Sarah since the facts were really not there. And the vision literally wasn't there. Literally the vision was compromised. Yes. he being the nicest and smartest did convince me that it was better to tell Sarah and give her an opportunity to figure it out in case it was him yeah so I sent Sarah a voice message telling her that I'm not a reliable witness and I was the only one who saw this so um she should take it with a truckload of salt but I think I saw Brian holding hands with another girl and I think like you know when you've seen someone like don't you if he has like a distinct style like i know what you mean you're like like that's definitely you know when you've seen also like just like some of the shape of someone's legs yes can even the shape of their head yes you just can know sometimes i can spot someone like chintzy's got a gift like she can just spot people from the back like a niche people who have not seen since 2008 she can find them from the back it's crazy i love that power she called me immediately and we discussed it and i felt so bad because i got immediately insecure about every piece of information I had about it well yeah because it's like you're doubting yourself it's like this is going to be relationship ruining yeah yeah and you know just if only you had your contacts in so you could absolutely say with certainty Sarah did tell me that Brian does have some mental health issues and has been acting weirdly recently due to that but it obviously wouldn't excuse walking around holding hands with another girl she did possibly also recognize the girl I saw as a new friend of Brian's who he had been partying and having sleepovers with.

35:16Sorry. I got distracted by my dog. He's partying with other women and having sleepovers with them. With this new friend. Who's a female. Yeah. So he's going to say, I was just with my mate. Yeah. Who you know about. Who you know about. I've told you. Yeah, I had that sleepover at her that one time. We agreed she should try and call him to see if he's at home or somewhere completely else. And that could prove if my eyesight is simply horrible. To be honest, with all the new info about Brian, I can't say I was surprised that he did not answer. Sarah was obviously very stressed with not knowing the situation and being further away.

35:51So I came up with a small solution. Since when I saw Brian earlier, he was heading towards my usual running path. I decided to go on a run there with my contact lenses in and maybe I'll see them on a walk. Okay, so you're thinking they were heading towards the park. Why don't I just go out for my park run and see if I can bump into them again? So this is still the day. This is still, this is live and direct. Oh, I'm thinking we're like days later. No, no, no, we're live. So we're going to go try and catch them again. We're reporting live. Oh, I see. That's why she called him. He's not going to answer.

36:22He's with the other female. So I ran one full street and I saw the couple and I was very convinced it was him. But I had already run past them. So I took a picture of their backs and sent it to Sarah. So you think you spot them again? Nice. Sarah confirmed it. Then it was him, yeah. So having all the adrenaline, and also like, I know what my boyfriend looks like from the back. I know that jacket. I know those trousers. I've seen those trainers a thousand times. Like that's what you left the house with in this morning? Yeah. No, but she's in a different city. Oh, still. You know, the best thing to do is when you spot someone, snap a pic instantly.

37:01Yeah. snap a pic snap a pic instantly because your mind plays tricks on you after the fact as we would know you know you're like what's that no it must maybe it was and then you do doubt yourself but you've got photographic evidence you've got photographic fucking you can clock back that's definitely you absolutely uh so having all the adrenaline in my body i went to run around the block just to run past them absolutely god sarah's getting And all that K's in today. 25 miles. She's got a new record pace. Sub two hour record. Being so energized, I managed to run into them again. Fucking hell, walking in circles.

37:37But this time, I decided - It's given so day, like they're just walking loops. Yeah, aimlessly. This is like first day, just like - I decided to greet him and ask how he is. Very clever. Brian immediately let go of the girl's hand. But he did. We'll call her Susan. And told me a little bit about how he was doing. oh fuck matcha matcha on my jacket oh no the beverages are going everywhere today would you would you like me to pour some of mine in yours i would thank you for the selfless act she's like a disciple from the bible write this down wow oh god i knew it was gonna happen it's all in the rim oh it's only a tiny bit but i just look mucky now a mucky butt like just look messy and mucky okay getting locked in here again now i can drink freely because i've already got a stain freely the banana girl yeah so i looked at susan and said oh hey i'm his girlfriend sarah's friend i'm his girlfriend sarah's friend Call me a weirdo But I enjoy the terror in his face The girl looked shocked But didn't answer Because Brian quickly answered My ex He's got some bloody big balls on him Big blue balls on him So naturally I told them But I just saw you two last week And he continued to tell me They have broken up So I said You should have voice recorded this whole conversation Oh my god can you imagine You should have got a little camera on your running vest like police have yeah little GoPro it reminds me of live stream you still need to watch that it's giving cheaters where they would go and find the cheats yes but you need to watch that should I marry a murderer thing because she's still hanging around this guy she's voice recording every single conversation then she's got all the evidence wow that's amazing anyway yeah so I said I haven't heard that from Sarah but have fun and literally ran off and called Sarah nice Sarah and I agreed that she should DM the girl and tell her about the situation.

39:45So we ended the call and she did that and I went home. Also the sheer fact that he's saying, my ex, babe, you've just been caught out right here, right now. You're panicking. I'm Sarah's mate. Later, I received a DM from Susan asking if I am Sarah's friend and how no one deserves to be cheated on, et cetera, et cetera. So I told her it wasn't her fault and she did seem so shocked that I assume she didn't know anything about this. To my surprise, she tells me, she is not the person I saw him with what is going on here babe babe babe I've got to I put them in though but has also been with Brian and met him through tinder a few weeks back but it didn't end up working out so they stayed as friends and he has been trying to make her jealous by showing pictures of the actual Susan to her mind you both these Susans look completely identical are you following this because I'm not so what I've gathered here is we've found the wrong girl Sarah needs some more contacts on social media no because she's saying I received a DM saying no one deserves to be cheated on that actually wasn't me wait wait wait so the girlfriend received a DM no she's saying I received a DM the girl the police GoPro girl so he's just he's just been out and seeing two extra girls then yeah two girls but yeah this is not the girl we he was hand in hand with sarah being the icon she is hopped in the car and drove almost four hours just to get her stuff from brian who refused to say who this girl is because not everything is her business and he was going to break up with sarah today who is this idiot so the question here is should we try and find susan who isn't very easily reachable since we don't know her name and haven't found her instagram this is the lady who was handing out with brian i think i believe yeah or should my conversation with them be a good enough warning to her yeah i mean he's already been outed as like a complete liar freak i think imagine i went on a date with a guy walking around the park some girl rocks up oh i'm his girlfriend's friend my ex my yeah and then you watch him go almost not what sarah said last week she's never going on a second date again she's going to be thinking what a fucking weirdo if she had any sense you're not messing with this man I don't think so like he's full of shit isn't he yeah I think you've done enough there by going up to that that is sure she's going to remember that for the rest of her life that's going to be her crazy first date story forever like well I was on a date once and someone came with me saying he was just girlfriend's friend you're never going to forget about that yeah wow okay so that's it right I don't think we need to I mean look if you can she has said P.S.

42:32I just wanted to say my sister convinced me to write this and send it to you girls. She loves the podcast. Here's a picture of my amazing sister and a new fiance. Gorgeous couple. Oh, so this isn't Brian. And they've got a little dog. I did see that picture. I thought, oh, what's going to happen between these two? But it's just a nice picture. This is just a happy couple. Oh, lovely. Thanks for listening, guys. Well, that was a crazy story, actually. That was a roller coaster, yeah. But yeah. Long story short, put your contact lenses in. Do you know what we should actually start doing? That's also very meant to be, though, that like you saw him leaving there because God knows how long he's been acting like that for.

43:07So it's great that you, that was so meant to be that you bumped into him like that. Don't you think we should start doing like this man, for example, he deserves to be outed. Yeah. Like just pop his picture, just pop his face on the screen. Wanted with a wanted poster. Just like warning, this guy is like, do you know what I mean? I don't think it's a half bad idea. I don't either actually. If you ladies want that, let us know. Let us know. These men are going to be quaking in their boots.

43:38should i chase him when he's disappeared we don't chase we attract next dilemma hi girlies he's disappeared it's giving like we were seeing each other and he's for like months and then he's just gone. But it's giving double life always. Could be dead. He could have been on that hantavirus cruise. Could have been. But they do have phones and stuff and I think they're off the boat now. It's giving he's got a child in Texas. You know, that's what it's always giving. Right. Just want to start by saying love you both, live for your vlogs. Thank you, Sarah. Oh, thank you, Sarah. Shout out Texas. Shout out.

44:25A couple months back, my best friend Sarah dragged me to go on a night out with her in the small town we go to Union. I really didn't want to go but she practically begged me so I said I would drive and come for an hour or two. That way I could leave whenever I was ready and didn't have to drink. Yeah, yeah, yeah. After she finished her shift she got ready at hers and headed out. We had a really fun time just the two of us. Nice. We then met up with some more friends at another club and eventually walked around to Domino's for our post-night out pizza. that. Highlight of the night always. Ramming a pizza down on the street corner, nothing better.

45:03And you know, like, we've never experienced like a kebab. Because we've never, I've never had a kebab. I have. Oh. Well, you've had a kebab? Proper kebab? Yeah. Where? I don't know. Back in the day. I can't remember the most recent time. I've not had a kebab in a while but sometimes Fiona at home, we like get a kebab. Or like Like, mum and dad would go out, you know, with their mates. They would get a kebab, bring it home. We'd be awake and we'd be like, oh, I'm going to have some of that kebab. I've never really gone in and, like, got my own kebab. But I've had bites of others' kebabs. Yeah. See, I don't even know what does a kebab taste like.

45:40Tell me. It's like pita, meat. It's kind of like a bit. So what does a meat taste like? Delicious. Delicious. Well, I can imagine. Yeah, delicious. Wow. Yeah, but I wouldn't really choose a kebab. It's not for me. Really? I'd rather like post night out, I'm having a pizza, pasta, nuggets, burger. Yeah. It's going to take me a while before I get a kebab. But also if someone else had a kebab, I'd be like, that looks so fucking good. I need some of that kebab. Like a pitta. But I'm not having a kebab for myself, but I'm having some of other kebabs. Yes, yes, yes. Wow. Thank you for that. You're welcome.

46:15I can get you a kebab if you'd like. Well, maybe one day. Get one to the studio. Maybe one day. A bit much for a Wednesday morning. A bit much. I don't know how well it will sit with my stomach. Save it for a Friday, maybe. But yeah, never tried a kebab. But I can imagine. Never had a kebab. Never had a kebab in the house. Never had a kebab. That's a good word, kebab. Yeah, never had a kebab. No way, you're missing out. Because they're not at fish and chip shops, are they? No. No, no, no, no, no. They're kebab shops. No, kebab shops. Kebab shops. I love fish and chips. Me too. Did you ever get a battered sausage?

46:49Never. No, me neither. That's what Mariana would get. I often actually quite go for the scampi quite a lot of the time. Okay, okay. Scampi and chips. Pie and chips. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Chips and curry sauce. Chips and gravy. Kona chips. Yes, I do like the vinegar. I often go for scampi though rather than a whole fish. Scampi is what? Fish. Little bites of fish. Yeah. Yeah, got it. Right, so they went for their pizza. Heaven. We got in there. There was a massive cube, but I pre-ordered. Oh, clever. Wow. Oh yeah Because she was sober I guess So she knew what she was doing Yeah absolutely Smart So just had a few minutes to wait Stuffed crust Yum Oh my fucking God It's got to be stuffed crust Who invented that Clever clever clever person Clever Sarah was like You're going to hate me But I'm getting in that queue To order food We had a bantering bicker And giggle To which a guy behind us Said to his friends Wow this town is such a weird place Oh so he's made that comment Based off what you ladies have said Oh my God You know, a runner yesterday, I was walking, called me a fucking idiot.

47:56Yeah, I had like beef on the street. Beef on the street. Stop it right now. Start the whole story again. I was walking my dog. Manning your business. Literally, I had my hood up. Doing your mothery things. Hood up. Wow. Sunglasses on, walking at a usual glacial pace. Absolutely. With my dog. Yeah, manning your business, doing your thing. We're about to go on this bridge. And then I can hear a runner behind me, a man. Yeah. Excuse me. Like, I'm just walking forward. I'm walking forward. Go past me. Excuse me. So, and I had my hood up. I turned around slowly, just like slowly, literally looked at him.

48:32He could have got power. And then he ran past me, turns around, tuts him and goes, fucking idiot. I was like, excuse you, you fucking prick. You should have started running. You should have started chasing him. Yeah, I was like, you prick. What? I was like, who the fuck are you? What do you mean? I literally just looked I turned around He's got like runner's rage Where did that come from? I was like you need to relax It's Sunday morning as well Oh wow I was like call me a fucking idiot The vibe's really ruined I think he thought I was like A 16 year old girl or something So like my whole job and stuff And I had no makeup on But I thought Relax mate Sunday morning That's mental I'm like fucking idiot I'm gonna look right I'm gonna look me dead in the eyes Brick Or you Get back here now I was like with my child I'm trying not to swear right now Yeah I'm a mother I'm trying not to eff him back Please Like Couldn't believe it Wow Yeah I was like You're meant to be in a good mood You're on a run Yeah That's mental Run as high Yeah So I had some road rage You poor thing I know It was awful Shook me up It did It is shocking Yeah You know There's a shout profanities Back at him Absolutely I'm glad you stood up for yourself You just said Oi get back here Yeah Say it to my face Yeah I was like you prick yeah imagine if he made a scene everyone was like what's going on imagine if he stopped you'd be like oh my god blueberry i think she'd start barking yeah no she would she's good on the senses that yeah yeah yeah i'd say go for ankles i'd say ankles that is mental yeah i know shocking idiot kill blueberry attack yeah i should teach her like get the ankles you know yeah Yeah.

50:14God, we've gone from kebabs to... Oh, so the people say, God, the people in this town are crazy. At the kebab shop. Oh, yeah. The people in this town are weird. So he said, this is such a weird place. So I quickly turned around to make it very clear, we're not from here. And realized one of his friends was very attractive. Okay. So she turned around like, we're not from here. Tell me about it, we're not from here. Yeah, but there's a fit guy. After this, we chatted to them for a little bit. Then I collected my food while Sarah was still waiting in the queue Sarah then stole this random guy's garlic and herb dip So I said, I'm just going to wait over there while you order As I walked over to the side The attractive friend from earlier, let's call him Brian Was sat eating his pizza We started to chat, just the two of us And he let me eat half his large pizza I honestly can barely remember what we spoke about But the conversation really flowed Sometimes that's where you have good chats The night's kind of over.

51:13We're a bit tipsy, but we're okay. Yeah, like we're eating. We're chatting. We're relaxed. We're relaxed. Inhibitions are low. We're ready to go home. We've had fun. We're winding down. Yeah. Yeah. And we got to know each other a bit and had a laugh. Nice. He then followed me on Instagram and then me and Sarah said goodbye and left. Nice. A nice interaction. When I got home, I followed him back and dropped him a message. She says, I'm trying to get over my fear of rejection Saying thanks for the pizza Thoroughly enjoyed it That's a nice like, you know, I'm going to say something first Yeah, I like that He replied pretty quickly And the conversation carried on from there A couple of days later We spoke about meeting up He said he wasn't looking for anything serious Can you just remind me the subject line?

52:02Because I've completely blanked He disappeared Oh no Forgot about that he's got a girlfriend yeah he's definitely got a girlfriend because he's like because he's out in a city he doesn't usually go out in he's got a girlfriend his girlfriend's back in their own city and it's that thing of like no one here knows me like there's no link i don't have any mates here i don't know anyone at uni here like i can do what i want here and feel live this like like he's met you sarah he's like wow what that's like gorgeous girl yeah lovely conversation she messaged me whatever lovely i'll just tell her now i'm not looking for anything serious i'll see if I can sleep with her a few times.

52:40He's never got a girlfriend. What a shame. And Susan will never find out. That's a red flag him saying, I'm not looking for anything serious. So he said off the bat. Yeah. Like, well, we've just met. So we were speaking about meeting up and he's like, just to let you know, I'm not looking for anything serious. I think that's a red flag. Me too. Because like, I appreciate that you can meet up and not really be looking for anything serious, but to declare it, I think it's a strange, yeah yeah i just think it's a bit off there's no need to say that like we'll know if the vibe is there or not like we don't need to announce yeah i don't know well sarah said look i was absolutely fine with that because neither was i but also it's like aren't we romantics like let's see if there's a chance that we could fall madly in love and like do you know what i mean well that's what i mean like it's fine going into it not thinking that you want anything serious but like yeah yeah exactly but it's like but surely if you meet the right person but then boys don't think like that they are they're in the taxicab theory in it they're in the what sorry the taxicab theory when it's just like when they're ready they'll marry or whatever they'll the taxi cab theory what's that sex in the city don't know it's just like when like when they're 30 and other people are getting engaged they'll get engaged they just get they yeah choose the person that's there at the time yeah it's like oh i feel kind of ready to have a girlfriend all right susan you'll do like that like whoever's there yeah like whoever's there got it i think that i think that's what it is she said look i was absolutely fine with that neither was i i wasn't looking for anything serious um she says that i've got two girls holidays booked for this summer he he you know whatever he he we then arranged for me to go over to his house which i did a few days later we had sex and chatted a lot and i ended up staying the night okay so that's his sexual arrangement set his tone for what his arrangement is.

54:35This kind of became a regular occurrence. We don't message too much between seeing each other as it's purely a casual sexual relationship. After seeing him last week and spending the night together, I was really confused. You see, here we go. Here we go. You know, like... It was good while it lasted. I know, like when we start getting confused, it's like, well, he did actually say Yeah, he told you what he wanted from it. That it's just going to be sex, essentially. they're actually quite straightforward i know so she said i was getting confused as i felt that i'm starting to really like him yeah this is going bad get out get out get out i was psyching myself self up to bring it up to him at my next visit oh my god god sarah i feel your stress i was um asking about what's best when it's best to end it and i think i'm starting to like him and if he doesn't feel the same way then i'm happy to leave things yeah okay enough yeah you know what because you can't let it go on liking him Sarah because it's just going to end it in.

55:34I'm glad that you said that actually I'm glad that you kind of checked yourself. But she said, she's not said it she was just trying to psych herself up. Because she said, however, yesterday I went on to Instagram because this is where we message each other and clicked onto his account but it came up with error that the user cannot be found and been blocked. His girlfriend's found you. Yeah. I initially thought he blocked me Oh wait, so I checked all my accounts Made Sarah see if she could see the account And made my mum check too Oh he's just deleted his Instagram But for all of us it was coming up with the same thing He had deactivated his account He's a man on the run I'm glad he didn't block me He's wanted 2.0 Oh my god, yeah he's going to be on tour with them Wanted 3.0 I'm glad he didn't block me But I don't have his number to message him It was all in the DMs This is scary.

56:30Well, you've got his address, though. Yeah. Yeah, we do. I just want both of your advice on what I should do. Is this a sign that it wasn't right and I should just leave the situation? Yeah, it's giving fugitive. It's giving prison sentence. It's giving drug dealer. Yeah. It's giving I need to erase my whole identity. Because they're onto me. And hit the road. Yeah. Hit the road, Jack. And don't you come back no more. So she's just saying, should I just leave the situation where it is? should I message his friend who was with on the night out to check if he's okay? No. I'd be going around to his house.

57:03I obviously know where he lives. Yeah, she's saying, I feel like turning up on his doorstep. Definitely. I feel like turning up on his doorstep would be wild, but should I post a letter? I mean, in the words of Lydia Baila Solo, she said she's turning up. I think so. I think you're worried. Because also you're not turning up to be like, you need to be my boyfriend. You're just turning up to be like, you're right. Just a health check. Where have you gone? what's it where it's a welfare check yeah literally welfare check what's happened i'm not upset about it as i thought uh as i i'm not as upset about it as i thought i would be but we really did get on and we did have a lot of fun together he was such a nice guy and made me feel safe with him he's exactly my type we have the same sense of humor things were nice even though it was just casual should i do anything about it or is this a sign to just run whilst i can will he ever contact me again lots of love are confused sarah do you want to see the boy yeah because initially like gut instinct of ours is like okay he's got a girlfriend you were blocked because the girlfriend found you and he was getting in trouble but everyone's deactivated i'd be knocking on this is our sarah gorgeous gorgeous gorgeous Sarah but I just think do you see what we're doing here though with that last paragraph we're romanticizing him and we're thinking that there's a chance he's literally treated it oh yeah no I'm not I'm not knocking on to be like be my boyfriend yeah yeah yeah I'm just knocking on to be like is everything okay yeah what are you all right yeah but then I guess But then I do think someone who's capable of doing that, like we've been seeing each other for a while.

58:44Like we've been intimate and you know, if you were going to disappear, you could have just given me a heads up if you, if you had to go somewhere. Yeah. But like the fact that he's said his intentions, he said, I'm not looking for anything serious. Hey, how about you come over to mine? That's all he wants to do. It's not like, let's go get a pizza. Let's not go get drinks. He said, come over to mine. Yeah. We're having a good time. and then you'll leave and then you'll go and I've not even bothered to ask you for your number so I'm now gonna delete my Instagram I don't care about you I don't even I don't even respect you enough to say let you know I'm off you know I'll be going I won't be seeing you again he doesn't even respect you enough to do that therefore I just think let him leave I know what you could do fuck you goodbye you could park outside his house down the road yeah and just like monitor and you could just because i think if you just see him because he walk in the house or leave the house you'd be like okay he's alive he's a fucking prick like he's actually just like i don't need to know i know you want to know like why have you deleted your instagram like what's going on in your life like you don't need to know it's not really going to give you any closure i think knowing the truth also will only upset us a bit more yeah like we're one of many he's probably got a girlfriend like he didn't want to take us out on a date like you know what i mean like i just think it will upset us even more let's leave it as the illusion of like look we had a good time he's ghosted me he's gone it was nice while it lasted goodbye if anything it's done you a favor that he's just disappeared yeah because now you're like it's not getting messy where it's oh my god he had someone else and blah blah blah like he's just removed himself from the situation But Sarah said, will he ever contact me again?

1:00:34Will he come back? Even if he does, he will. He probably will. He's going to reactivate that account. Give him six months. He will message you again. When he's in town and he wants to have some sex, he's going to message you. But then that's when you take your power back and never reply, open it, leave it unseen or block him in return. Because regardless of what he's doing, he has just completely dropped you. and that's really disrespectful and he'll do it again yeah like I know we agree this was casual but there's still respect there there's still like decency to be like we've got feelings now goodbye we've got feelings now so the moment he comes back we're thinking oh my god he's going to choose me again he's going to choose me and then okay maybe we do have sex with him again but then he's going to do exactly this again he's going to ghost us again and then we're going to be it's going to get even worse and worse so self-esteem's just going to dwindle leave it now like let's respect ourselves when he comes back we ignore Or we then block him because, no, we can't get involved with this man.

1:01:34Wow. What a journey. Gosh. He's giving issues with the law. I do want to. He's definitely got a little friend. Oh, you think it's fugitive, yeah? Yeah, I do. I mean, maybe he did get arrested and he's in prison. Possibly. Because he's not going to. You don't have your phone then. But then why is it deleted? Then maybe he called his mate. Deactivate it. Delete it. Delete it. Yeah. Burn the evidence. Yeah.

1:02:04okay let's do one more his whatsapp messages are locked interesting so he's got a pin on his whatsapp messages you can lock specific chats i know you can lock your whole i know you can hide specific chats right yeah uh hey girls it's the classic i never thought i would write in but here we are thank you for your podcast and vlogs they get me through the week thank you sarah i could really do with your honest opinion and advice about my marriage me and my husband got married sure me and my husband got married in 2025 and we've been together for eight and a half years now i love him and we've had some incredible times over the years he takes his phone everywhere the shower the toilet outside but i never thought too much of it because to be honest you know i carry mine around everywhere too and i've got nothing to hide but he recently changed his notification so it doesn't show the message on the lock screen it just says notification oh my god yeah so it just yeah he's got it so the name doesn't pop up it just says whatsapp whatsapp whatsapp yeah when i asked him about this he said it's because i send him lots of love hearts and he works a professional job shut up i don't buy that i'm afraid what a stupid excuse get a privacy screen then i kind of just accepted that and moved on i don't buy that excuse sarah by the way you send me a lot of what no that's a new one that's the first this weekend me and my husband attended a wedding and i ended up wearing his jacket because i was cold and went off to the toilet where i noticed i had his phone oh my god bingo i took this opportunity to look through his whatsapp and was not expecting a locked message i didn't even I know you could lock messages.

1:03:55There were messages with a girl he works with and my heart dropped. And that whole chat is locked. Oh my God. I've attached screen. So if I'm right, like when a chat is locked, it's either face ID to open it or a passcode. I've attached screenshots of the messages, but he is saying how attractive she looks with no clothes on and basically offering to have sex with her. oh my god right um read the messages out loud i was heartbroken immediately and then had to act like nothing was wrong because i didn't want to ruin someone else's wedding day but later that evening i pulled him aside and confronted him i screamed and pushed and cried he looked awful and apologized and promised he never did anything with her physically but he didn't really explain the next morning we had to act normal with everyone from the wedding and then we had an awkward three-hour drive home we were quiet with each other but still acted normal ish and i can't help but think he thinks he's gotten away with it does he i have an important exam tomorrow so i'm just focusing on that but afterwards i don't know what to do i feel sick at the thought of him and her and i hate him for it i can't believe he would do something like this i want a gentleman not a fuck boy it's also my birthday this weekend and i don't know whether just to try and forget about it and or have it out and potentially break up yeah break up what would you girls do oh my right i'm gonna read these messages i've got them up too read them okay so he she said you that's really blurry you like look fit you look fit in the blue shirt if that helps and then he said you look fit in all your clothes and even fit her with them all off oh my she said fucking god sorry for the sexual harassment today the blue shirt did things to me that that they're snogging at work they're having sex at work how was the something something oh my god he said please do it more about the sexual harassment and include physical arousal harassment next time thanks you just do things to me oh my god sarah and and sorry he's saying nothing ever happened he is they're literally having sex at work sarah oh my god i can see you in a dress as well wait oh my god oh my god yeah oh sarah this is awful what a fucking is his is his he's saying well nothing's happened physically He's trying to say that nothing's happened.

1:06:33Well, he's a fucking liar. It says it right there. Please do it more. That means I've touched, snogged. That means he's seen her naked. It's just said. You look fitter with them all off. Oh, Sarah. Sarah, please. I know it's your birthday. I really, really do. I know it's your birthday, but please don't sweep this under the rug. Please, let's just hash it out. Please break up with this man. Please. I know that you... And I know it's been eight years, but... I know you want to, like... forget about it like avoid and it's easy to just be like it's easy to he's not like it's not like you've walked in on him having sex with someone you're thinking he's telling me it's just messages i'm gonna put i'm gonna believe that he made a mistake blah blah but there is no doubt from those messages he's seen her naked that's just what they've touched they've snogged and also doing it regularly what you need to also think sarah here is like think how much has happened for them to get here like they've been at work together they flirted think of those initial thoughts he had i'm gonna cheat on my wife yeah like to get to the point where they're like essentially like sexting flirting so much other stuff has happened they've established a full relationship so many choices that your husband has made every single day to take this further they've probably got had drinks after what they've definitely or they've definitely had sex and they've definitely kissed that those messages yeah are between a two people who have had sex yes i'm sorry without a doubt in my mind the fact that he thinks he's gotten away with it and he can talk normally with you absolutely not he needs to be held accountable yeah i know it's your birthday i understand but like let's look let's he needs to be held accountable first he does like let's not have like some pity presents and like a dinner from him for what like no like you've cheated on me mate and I've seen it yeah and like that was like and you're not gonna convince me that you haven't done this because I've seen do you think I'm an idiot do you respect me that like I've seen what I needed to see like I think it this Sarah anything's gonna warrant a breakup it is this and I know it's tempting to be like look I'm just gonna believe him I'm gonna sweep under the rug I want to have a nice birthday I want to have a nice summer you know we've got that trip planned you know what i mean defo but but also sarah you need to remember that unfortunately like you could sweep this under the rug you could keep plodding along but you are never gonna forget this and this is gonna be something that every time he's on his phone you're thinking about every time he's home late every time he's not answering the phone like this is now unfortunately never ever ever going away and your relation i know you immediately are like oh my god forget about it put a plaster on it just don't deal with that but your relationship has forever changed now you are never gonna be back to what you were before this night because this happened now and it's changed forever and it's all his fault prick what a you owe it to yourself and your future to be like i'm gonna walk away here because i've seen what i need to see you're never gonna convince me otherwise i know there's more that I haven't seen like and you need to have almost like a rebirth and just a walk away and it's going to be hard but you need to think about yourself in these instances like think of myself in two years time I might be I know you don't want to think about this right now but you're like I could even be with someone else like I'm going to be thriving I'm going to be happy I'm going to be at peace my life's going to be back on track I'm going to be all sort I'm going to be in a new home I'm going to be doing this I'm going to be doing that or over that two years down the line you can be like i should have left two years ago because now i've just walked in and she's doing and he because you know what he's thinking now ka-ching i've just cheated on my wife and she's just away with it and got away with it we can keep going yeah susan let's keep having sex yeah because my wife isn't ever gonna leave me ka-ching oh you know what i'm gonna go sleep with helen as well because my wife's never gonna leave me she just forgave me like that yeah do you want to be that wife you don't sarah i know it's so scary he's only gonna get more balls and more balls and more balls you need to respect yourself and think i don't deserve to be treated like this and leave and it's only also gonna get worse to be single yeah then to be with a man who's cheating on you being single is the best why do we want to now be miserable with a guy who is cheating on you every every day probably every day he's going into that office five days a week yeah seeing his little lady who's getting naked for him and also like his world is going to come crashing down because this whole workplace affair is only sexy and exciting because he's married the minute he's just a divorced single man loser it's just like oh well this is shit like it loses all of that appeal that it's got for him right now because it's like oh yeah and even for her like she'll just be like oh so i'm not like the little i'm just the girl now like it it takes everything out of it so you need to be like i don't know who you thought i was but i'm not this girl like i'm out of here i know you thought i would forgive you because it's been eight years but no i'm fucking walking away from you you lose a prick yeah oh and also you got to think like at a wedding as well that all happened for a reason like you had that jacket on you had that phone you were like i need i need to look through this like your mind knew there was something there because you thought oh my god i'm gonna look through that what's that you knew his behavior was off already and that was the universe giving the universe really helped you out there and it showed you what you needed to see and if you don't act on it i fear it's just going to show you again and again and again he left his phone in his jacket and gave you got sloppy yeah but that also shows how long he's been doing this for it's not new for him he's not scared he got sloppy yeah because he's been doing it for a long time of course because if it was like the first week he'd be like he would not be leaving you would not be doing that what a prick get away from that loser get away uh he's bold he's bold he looks like max from the wanted he looks like max from the wanted i am not we can't be trusting bold men this week no oh my god yeah he's fully bold that is shining it's literally glistening well what an idiot these bold men i think they're so brave literally right let's do star of the week because lord knows we all need it after that we need it i want to nominate my brian matt for star of the week he is away a lot for work and in the military and always tries to make our time together special he planned a super cute weekend away in the lakes for my birthday as he is being deployed next week not only did he plan every hike dinner and brunch and decorate our tent for my birthday he also spotted sophia at the top of the mountain oh my god we are the lakes at the same time I was gonna say I went to the lakes recently he's one of the girls when I put the podcast on in the car oh my god yeah this is the girl that I was gonna say this is the girl that I met he convinced me to say hello and told me I looked fine even though I was a sweaty man oh my god that was you guys oh I was gonna say I was like maybe it was the girl that I saw thanks for being so sweet Sphere I hope you had a good time hiking as we did just want to shout out Brian for always putting me first making me feel super special it's something I've never had before I'm so grateful for him We love Matt.

1:13:57Hiking Queens, Lake District Queens. Matt, shout out. Matt, Matt, Matt, Matt, Matt, Matt, Matt. Well, thank you so much for listening, everyone. This week's episode. If you have a Star of the Week entry or a dilemma, you can email it to hello at thegirlsbathroom.com. Absolutely. Follow us on Instagram, TikTok, and YouTube. Thank you very much. We'll see you on Monday or Wednesday as usual. Bye. Have a good week.

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