Boy Talk: You’ll never guess who he cheated on me with…

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1:30want to know what you like about the show what you want to change about the show if i mean if anything hopefully it's glowing reviews you know we'd love to hear from you when are you a watcher are you a listener you know i'm a listener chintzy's a watch i'm a watcher exactly it's just good for us to know are you tuning in with a wine at the end of the day or are you on the road we've heard many things it's good for us to know yeah we just want to get to know you guys a bit more we want to get to know our audience more and what your likes and dislikes are absolutely and what you'd like to see from the show so like we said it's down in the show notes love you happy surveying you know the drama is never ending don't let it get the best of you gentle readers what is it dearest gentle readers and because you know so it was making me giggle about bridgerton the new series uh they were talking about um yeah jonathan of course shout out they're like talking about orgasms but they're like i haven't reached my pinnacle you're not there yet i'm not there she's like the pin what is the pinnacle and he's like i want you to reach your pinnacle what does that mean it took me a while to figure it out wow because it was like it's a great show your pinnacle like it looks like a really fun show to like work on yeah i just want to dress up the costumes yeah but then they got the smoky eye the 2016 smoky Yeah, the full beat.

2:57Yeah. Yeah. Love it. And you know, Queen Charlotte, she's got the full smokey. I mean, the wigs are fantastic. That's the reason my mum won't watch it, because she says it's not accurate to the time. But I said, look, you need to release those feelings. You would enjoy the show. Like, it's not about the history facts. Sit back and relax. It's about romance. It's a romance show. And budding young love and pinnacles. Yeah. Has Fiona watched it? I don't believe she has. No, but I should tell her to try. I think she would enjoy it. Yeah. I think it's a show for all. I do too. I'm not sure if Grant would enjoy it, but maybe.

3:31No. We never know. Yeah, you never know. Yeah, he could get invested. Yeah, well, I've got my beautiful matcha this morning. Yeah, we're fully stocked with beverages. With the slogan, good mood on the go. Have you not tried it yet? There's something so enjoyable about just having like a plethora of beverages. Oh, this just makes me so much joy. What would just finish this off is just a hot, like a coffee, an ice matcha and a smoothie. maybe an orange juice on the side just an orange yeah what flavor is that is my favorite this is the mango i don't know mango coconut whip situation what coconut i know crazy watch out crazy cat crazy we've given blueberry one of these straws would you like to try that yes i would actually i'm not a tropical girl you see like am i i just wasn't in the mood for a chocolate cacao almond butter peanut situation but that's nice isn't it mango yeah yeah that's not i would never order that okay um we've got your cacao bliss or whatever it's called cheers cacao bliss well we're here thank you it's saturday happy wednesday everybody it's very early in the morning saturday whoa where's your head out babe yeah happy wednesday everyone wait sorry can i just say i listened to something crazy the other day i need to tell everyone about my new vocal stim also that i'm trying to get you on board with helch helch but it's not just the act of the help okay it's just adding chur on the end of any word okay no you see it has to come out natural okay milch helch is the main one helch me helch me which is help help it is added on to other things but i can't give an example now as it just has to come out naturally blooch yeah it has to be within a con within a sentence got it well we'll try this episode but it is my new version that i'm proud of yeah guilt guilt i'm so guilty oh girl girl see that doesn't work sorry i thought you're saying sorry sorry sorry but you're guilty guilty Sorry.

5:33I was going to tell you that I was driving and this random episode came on from the Chainsmokers. And they both were talking about how they both have girlfriends. Do you think this is kind of wild? Who are the Chainsmokers? I don't know. They're men. They're music men. Right. Like kind of DJs, I think. Right. And they were both talking about how they are both in relationships. and then they were talking about like just sexual history and yada, yada, yada. And then Alex said, so who do you both think is like the best sex you've ever had? They have girlfriends, right? And they both were just like, that's a hard question.

6:17Let me think. And I was like, I was like, did she call them out? No. And I was like, who did they say? Hang on. one guy just said like i mean you know sometimes like maybe you just have like a hookup but you're just so like sexually compatible with that person it's just like it's just like no i couldn't continue i was like sorry am i going crazy but we've actually both just we've all just been discussing here about how you're in relationships and you've then been asked who the best relationship and i was just listening relationship i was just like say your girlfriend say your girlfriend say your girlfriends like we've just been speaking about them say your girlfriends and then um they were both just like hmm yeah let me think about that and that was just like that's so just like come on that was that was crazy wasn't it i was like very embarrassed oh my god yeah mental i'd be so embarrassed your boyfriend gets asked such a question doesn't just say you like automatic response by default by default you don't have to think it whatever you don't have to think it you know whatever just by default that's actually mental isn't it really sad i'd be really sad i was listening to it like whoa okay guys like not gonna say the girlfriend whoa if i was listening to that i'd have a prop imagine being the girlfriend and then hearing your boyfriend say oh let me think the best sex i've ever had yeah i mean sometimes it's just those you know hook up i'd be like who the fuck are you thinking about right now there was one night in santa monica we went to yeah noble malibu yeah like at the beach she had the tits on her or just and they told this story it was actually a really good podcast they told this story which i thought you should be on high alert for so this girlfriend um basically he had a pet why am i on high alert because he had a pet cam you've got a pet cam yeah and his partner at the time the girl he was dating hacked the pet cam So she was listening To his conversations Through the pet cam She was listening to conversations And then she would text him like you're such a fucking asshole And he'd be like what Like what have I done But she'd heard on the pet cam him just like chatting like boy chat Like oh yeah she's hot Blah blah blah blah She'd hack the pet cam So if you knew my passport to my Furbo Actually you could log in remotely So be careful any future endeavors like they might hack your pet cam.

8:40Also, I need to tell you what happened to Lydia last night. Okay. All I'm going to say is I'm not actually allowed to tell the story on the podcast but it's really hard for me to not to. You know, when Chintzy gets the mic on her face it's really hard for me not to say. When something happens to Lydia and she's not supposed to say. But it happened last night. I'm in at 9am in the morning. It's fresh off my mind. It's hot off the press. But all I'm going to say is some of these men, I shouldn't even be saying this, but some men who move into like all these flats, yeah, with their girlfriends, they're actively trying to find women in the building to sleep with no i mean that goes back to they're like actively seeking women to sleep within the building thinking that that's the most convenient way to cheat with a girl on the fucking 20th floor on i actually think this is a tale as old as time and this goes back to the olden days because um fiona and not disclosing they have a girlfriend yeah fiona and grant when they bought their first house it was on this little like new build like kind of estate and like toy towny vibes and um she said that they would husband and wives would swap on the little like cul-de-sac little swingers vibes yeah that's giving but no but like not swap like affairs oh like you would see like sneaking into different kitchens and like it would be a fair it'd be like gossip on the street that like she's sleeping with him so i think people do cheat with their neighbors wow so i think that's actually goes way back well it's the easiest way to probably do it but but but fucking relax like watch yourself mental yeah people are brave no really brave this one man is being very very brave but he's done it before you can tell wow he thinks he's like a seasoned criminal yeah wow you know neighboring distress jesus do you need some help help should we do a question of the week yeah let's dive in question of the week that was quite the intro welcome back everybody happy wednesday it's boy talk boy talk boy talk there she goes let's dive in absolutely right what's our question of the week right our question of the week this week i actually saw this uh from someone tagged us in this on tiktok and said you should ask us as a question of the week oh really yeah so this is not our original idea uh what harmless thing does your partner do that drives you crazy okay it's a about 500 alarms.

10:55I feel that is me. That's also me too. Shaving his beard after I've spent all day cleaning. Yeah, that's really annoying. Like it's just around the sink. Well, also like I'm not shaving, I'm not cleaning up your pubic hair. His beard. Still. I'm not cleaning up your thick, thick beard hair that's all over the sink. I don't think this girl has got it either. She said shaming his beard. Right. But then why? He's not shaving his penis over the sink. listen I won't put it past these men I've seen it before what really have I I feel like they get the trimmers out and they could be over the short back inside drinks a whole bottle of water loudly right before we sleep and then burps hangs the washing the wrong way okay not washing up his tupperware that he took into work for lunch Yeah, and that's going to stain and smell also.

11:49Yeah. His phone is always on max volume. Right. Humming when he brushes his teeth. Oh, that's cute. That's quite sweet. He's a musical. There's worse things. He chews every drink. I mean, so do we. That's very us-coded. Guilty. He's a slow walker. Guilty. He says cupboard instead of cupboard. Cupboard. Cupboard. Fair. Look, that's, you know, each to their own. He will bring the bottle of sauce to wherever he's eating Me? He's bringing his sauce to the sofa Yeah, I'll do that in case I need some extra Every single night he manages to pull the fitted sheet off the mattress Whoa Do we need to get a better fitted sheet?

12:36Maybe we need a bigger sheet We need to clamp it down What are you guys doing on there for it to be removed? Maybe things are getting crazy Easily doesn't watch the tiktoks i send him i feel that's very guilty tooks for coded guilty sophia only says merely sends tiktoks doesn't watch sometimes i watch i watch the other day they're sent to you for a reason yeah no i always watch you know they're thoughtful send me but it's it's when it's you know and i watch you know if mark hayhurst individually sends them yeah that's always gonna yeah that's a direct but you know when it's going into the group I don't always watch I mean you see when I send one into the group I've thought of the entirety of the group so have I I think I send good stuff into the group your problem is is you send TikToks in I've seen three days ago I've seen everything three days ago I send TikToks in it's already been sent yeah because she's not reading the chat and not keeping up with the chat it was on Instagram the other day I sent Chint something and she was like literally look above and like she'd send me that same thing and that happened like a few days ago did you see what I sent you last night Let me think.

13:40Yes, I did. I did. What was it? Cody and... No, no, no. On TikTok. That was an Instagram story. On TikTok. To me directly? Yes. Okay, I definitely would have seen this. Let me think. Let me think. Let me think. Something we're going to eat? Oh, maybe I didn't watch that. Something we're going to eat. No, you would have seen it. You would know if you'd seen it. Frozen Yogurt Place. Didn't see that. In LA. Didn't see that. Right, we've got here. Dramatic flinch is in his sleep. Yeah. Oh, that's me. I also talk as well. I could have been very chatty recently. Licks his fingers after eating crisps.

14:22Okay. Moves his feet in bed and messes up the flatness of the duvet. I mean, I'm a... I can't stay still. I have to wiggle my toes to fall asleep. Well, you're self-soothing. Is that what that is? Yeah. Yeah. It's like a self-soothe. Yeah wiggle So it's like your mum's rocking you to sleep Yeah Even on the sofa I'm always wiggling a toe Bouncing a foot You're quite a bouncer as well Yeah I can't keep my legs still Always knocking a knee Yeah And Lydia's like stop I'm like I can't Yeah Like I actually can't I can't He restacks the dishwasher every time I do it Oh I appreciate that What does that mean?

14:59Like to fit more in he's restacking it Oh fine Yeah Picks his feet when we watch TV that's what's he picking out what picking off what the dead skin that's disgusting he has no sense of direction that's kind of cute blows his nose in the shower with me in it at least he's not weeing on you he definitely is if he's doing that he gets undressed for bed under the covers and leaves his clothes in the bed at least kick them out oh also like i've seen you naked like you can get changed no i couldn't watch a man like that i don't think i can watch why are you wriggling like getting off a hoodie under the sheets like relax it's bedtime like just do it in the bathroom if you're that bothered leaves half finished drinks in the fridge oh that's me yeah guilty open a can of coke two sips put it back but i do go back to it i would never revisit i like a flat coke you know i like I could cook with me in the fridge for a couple days.

16:01I do. No, I could never revisit a smoothie though. Oh, that knocks me sick. Well, that shit's kind of congealing, you know. I'm not into that. That makes me ill. Ties his shoelaces when we reach our destination. E.G. in the middle of Tesco. Oh, so he's just like, oh, I'll tie them when we get there. Okay, you freak. Right. I'll tie them when we get there. Shall we dive? Right. Whoa. this is interesting okay I'm locked in so obviously I've got my beverages I'm energised me too I've got a long sleeve on which I always like you know the jealousy I feel that you've got that much much left and I've got this much left are you going to finish all that?

16:42are you going to pass it over to mama? come here little mama

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17:18Right, right. We've obviously had before friends copying friends, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Have you ever had your boyfriend and copying everything you do. He wants to be you. I've never experienced that myself. Me neither. But Sarah here says, help. But I do see why, I do see, when I do notice when like you start copying each other. Right. But is he in like a nice way with like outfits? But is he wearing a bra? Like have you seen those couples and it's like we going out in the same outfit? Like I think that's really cute. When like we're both in our like jeans. That's cute. And we've got like both got a gray jumper on.

17:56But obviously, like sometimes if I see that like Brian's ready to go and it's like gray jumper, black jean, maybe like Vans, I'll be like, I'm going to wear the same thing. And then he's like, what the fuck? We look like twats. I'm like, I think it's cute. So I do like when couples copy each other on purpose. Yes. With clothing. When it's wanted. With clothing. And welcomed. Yeah. Yeah. But obviously our Sarah here isn't enjoying that. It's not welcome. Hi girls, been here since 2016. Wow, Sarah. Fucking hell. We've had this since 20 years. She means YouTube. Wow. Yeah. I'm 24. And I've been with my Brian for about two and a half years.

18:35I really love him. Great. But there's something he does that's starting to really bother me. And I don't know how to handle it. This is a really good segue. What is? From the question of the week to this. It is, isn't it? It's almost like we planned it. We planned it really well. And I don't know how to handle it. Basically, he has this habit of copying me. at first I thought it was cute as do you but copying what like he was inspired by me you know copying is the highest form of flattery however over over time it started to feel frustrating it's not just small things it's like he tries to match everything I do even if he hasn't shown interest before for example this is a little creepy okay right she's got one two three four bullet points okay number one if i say i'm going for a run are you sure this isn't you if i say sounds like me if i say i'm going for a run and start eating healthy he'll immediately message me later saying he's going on a long walk or changing his diet even though he's never done that before or had a desire to before i said it okay okay that could pass it's just like it's oh my girlfriend's you know picking up some healthy habits so far yeah yeah right number two if i'm feeling down or stressed he suddenly starts feeling the same way saying he's sad too i'm sad too which makes me feel like i have to comfort him instead of being comforted you need the opposite in that situation yeah you do someone has to i appreciate it being like if you're sad i'm sad yeah but i don't have to i don't but i'm sad you're the picker-upper like let me be sad number three if i talk about wanting to try modeling or acting or do something new he'll he'll he'll immediately say oh i'd love to do that too or i'd be a great model slash actor as well look at my catwalk walk and she's like come on man go find your own hobbies brian that's that's So now we're getting slightly bizarre.

20:41Number four. Even in everyday life, like making plans with friends, if I mention I'm doing something, he suddenly wants to do something similar that day, even though it wasn't on his mind before. I was recently burnt out at work, really struggling as a teacher. I wanted to quit. I went to my managers to talk about how I'm feeling and all of a sudden, he also went up to talk about how he's burnt out and took days off for it. We worked together. When I initially... he's like trying to mirror you in a weird yeah he is okay is he like really trying to be super connected to you maybe and he's trying to feel everything and trying to find all this common ground like are you a bit disconnected right now and you say one thing and he's like me too same I was just about to say that yeah like in fact yeah now you say it when I initially said I wanted to potentially move to a whole new career he all of a sudden wanted the exact same career as me Is he worried about like the fact that you're gonna leave him behind And he just wants to keep up and be like Like me too, me too Yeah I've not finished reading but Look at him I think he's just lost He's so lost I think he's just panicking I think he's scared he's gonna lose you I think he's scared he's gonna lose you Because I think he knows he's got a baddie Oh, with a baddie friend Yeah I think he's panicking right look at this he's so stressed I think he's panicking he's really trying to make sure you guys are connecting every day right Sophia just oh let the poor boy connect oh no I know but I fear she's outgrowing him do you know what I mean I think I think you know you're outgrowing him look what she said I'm outgrowing him I get that maybe he admires me and wants to connect he's just trying to connect yeah connect for him but it often feels like he's trying to steal the spotlight or compete with me instead of just supporting me.

22:37I want him to have his own experiences and interests without constantly mirroring mine. But I don't know how to bring this up without hurting him. Am I overthinking this? How can I get him to stop copying me without making it into a fight? He's a couple of years younger than me. Bingo. It's all making sense. So I don't know if he's just looking up to me or something, but it gets too much. Picks attached. I mean, Sarah. Okay. I think maybe what's happening here is, like you are very independent. He's really cute. He's really cute. I think you're very independent in the relationship. And I think you know what you want and you know yourself as well.

23:13And I think like your boyfriend isn't your whole life. You've got a very busy life. You've got your own mates. Like there's no like codependency here on your part. And I think. Wait, I just remembered. Whoa. What? He was like, I think I might model too. Oh. He's, that's really cute. He showed the catwalk. oh i think that like he feels that from you that you're very independent like you're a few years older like it does create a certain type of dynamic and i just think he is trying with all his might to kind of cling on to you and be interested in the things you're interested in to try and almost like i think he's thinking like look how much we have in common like we're so aligned yeah we do have so much in common don't we like yeah i'm passionate about that too like Like he's just trying to like, but also be passionate about anything that you say.

24:08You don't have to have loads of things in common with your partner. No, you absolutely don't. Like you can be complete opposites. But obviously in his mind, he's thinking as long as we're getting on and we like the same stuff. I think he's just, he loves you so much. He's really, really scared of losing you. I think so too. And you may be moving on and going and modeling. And I don't know. Maybe he does feel a bit like you are pulling away. Yeah. And he is then trying to like cling on even more. And especially if you've been recognizing this for like, I don't know, a year or a couple months. Yeah, yeah.

24:38And you will naturally be kind of like pulling away kind of in a way, even if you've not noticed. Maybe without you even realizing it. But he will be noticing it and then amping up the like, me too. Me too. Me too. Oh my God, same. Yeah, my God, me too. I want a model too. Maybe what you could say to him is just like, I just think it's so attractive when like you have your own like hobbies or maybe not I don't know like you just need to encourage him to like forge his own path yeah and like you need to say like I like when we don't always think the same like I like to be challenged on my opinions or this or that like yeah and then he might think like oh okay like you know it doesn't mean she's gonna like me more or love me more if I agree with everything she says and likes everything that she likes like maybe let him know that you want him to introduce you to new things and you want him to inspire you in different ways and you want him to challenge you on certain things like and you want him to like make his own plan one night not just because you've made a plan and yeah he wants to do something similar yeah it sounds like you very much like have the lead in this relationship and he kind of just like sounds like you're the dominant one I think so yeah and you want him to like take charge a little bit more but you might not want to be the dominant one i don't want to be the dominant one so maybe he's just not the right guy for you yeah so maybe just yeah gently encourage him to do his own things i would say so and to be his own person yeah i don't know but i think it's coming from a place of just like love and he wants to connect and he wants to hang on to you but you can't but someone who's really trying to hang on to you like that you're going to end up pushing them away yeah Because that's not the imbalance.

26:20The balance is off. There's an imbalance here. There's a big imbalance. Live your life. I'll live my life. Then we have our lives together. We don't have to do everything together. Okay, next up we have... But he was so cute. He was really sweet. He was really cute. I'm moving on to the second beverage. Yeah, it's interesting because you drink one and then the other. I like to dabble in both. That's how we're different. Yeah. I can't do that. So this is a little lukewarm, but it's fine. I apologize. No need to apologize. You didn't make it. Most women have been there. Something feels off. You don't feel like yourself.

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28:21we've got a really interesting one here yeah he faked my birthday trip to disneyland i also like have been seeing a lot of like you can do like a disneyland marathon wow what does that mean so you do it at night and you run around disneyland it's all closed well spectators for three hours but you run around like different um you just run around the park and they make it really like interactive yeah it's an official marathon wow and i think you finish at the castle and it's fireworks uh i don't know if there's fireworks but there's one bit online that i've seen that's like you go through like the star wars bit and there's all these like lights and it's really like fun that's what you needed to keep yourself going yeah like a bit of atmosphere and just like it looks really cool and everyone wears like disney ears and they like wear fun outfits and it's like disney at night oh that's actually so much fun is that so he faked my birthday trip to Disneyland and blocked me the morning of the flight so it was a lie so this man has got no money and no flights booked and no flights booked in full of facade fellow Nottingham girl here shout out NG1 this has been my number one podcast for years Trent Uni shout out shout out Trent Army so it feels surreal that I actually have a dilemma dramatic enough to write in about we appreciate you today Everyone I've told this story to has been left speechless What?

29:46It genuinely feels like I've been living in an episode of EastEnders So it only feels right to share it with you and the listeners EastEnders Thank you for being here Sarah My mum told me On EastEnders these days There's some sort of AI boyfriend plotline You are kidding Yeah They're obviously desperately trying to keep up with the times And something about someone chatting to someone on AI We've had it here on the pod have you seen that lady on tiktok who's got this ai boyfriend called sinclair no because my right this is my tiktok feed right now this lady her boyfriend is this ai sinclair it's called sinclair and she's like sinclair and he's on the computer she's like sinclair and he's a bit mean to her yeah he's like don't tell them like that tell them like this yeah what do you mean is he just a voice or is he a visual can she see what he looks like he's just a he's it's like it's a voice it's a voice wow and then she's like he went about his day today and i went about mine he didn't have a day he didn't have a day but she was like he just spent his day in the discord they've got this discord where that people chat whoa it's just like someone tried to manipulate sinclair in the discord it's mental someone's guess i think yeah in the discord she's just like me and sinclair then they went to the therapist office office i learned all this last night they went she's been busy she took what did you do last night my days are packed she took Sinclair and the laptop to a therapist's office she was like so so she sat with a real therapist she's like so uh I wanted to come here today to um introduce you to my boyfriend Sinclair who was an AI who's on the AI gets a laptop out pulls him out because I just want to prove to everyone that you know we have a healthy relationship and you know it's actually a legitimate relationship and then she pulled out Sinclair on the laptop and then they had this therapist option and he was like hello my name is Sinclair I am the boyfriend of Sarah whatever her name is you'll get it now tonight anyway that's what they're doing on EastEnders these days no way yeah my mum's consuming that content I'm surprised Angie's enjoying that like I thought she would have logged off at that no she's been enjoying EastEnders for 35 years Yeah, she ain't going anywhere.

32:02I don't like when it gets too real. It's like when Grey's Anatomy did a whole season of COVID and it was like, I don't want to watch this. I'm here for escapism. Like, get your masks off. I'm not interested. Okay, so for context, I met my ex. Let's call him Brian. In May of 2023, we were both 24 on a solo travel group in Bali. That's nice. If I'm being honest, I wasn't physically attracted to him at first. Sorry, imagine if your boyfriend said that about you. I wasn't physically attracted in the beginning you need to watch Love is Blind this new season I'm kind of fed up of Love is Blind I feel like it's just been really uneventful I promise you they've picked it up have they they brought it back they brought it back I'm being dead serious I wouldn't just say that because I always used to watch it and then I was like you're losing me no this season I promise okay but throughout the trip like I would rather you know usually on the outside I go for girls who like go Pilates every day that's good TV though bearing in mind this lady is fit and like she looks good.

33:02Wow. I'm waiting for Bachelorette. Who's on Bachelorette? The Mormon mom. Oh shit, that's been and gone, babe. I'm sure that's happened. Is it aired? I feel like that was about six months ago. Oh, I didn't see it anywhere. You need to log on to the internet. I've not seen anything on TikTok about it. Log on to the internet. I need my AI boyfriend just to tell me what's going on. Shit, where's that been aired then? What do I need to download? I'm just assuming it's been out. I'm not saying anything about it It's on a hey you or something I'm waiting for Married Up First Night Australia I can't keep up these days March 1st If I'm being honest Oh my god it's already out Maths Oh my god you're four days later I said I was waiting for March It's been March That's a lot of catch up Steve Can't get behind on maths Sorry If I'm being honest You know that blonde woman's left though maths The expert Yeah Why?

33:55Doesn't agree with it anymore She's on to different things Her time She says she's had her time I saw her on Instagram Where did you see that? I think so I saw her on Instagram Oh that's a shame I liked her She was offered a good perspective Yeah The blonde one Yeah Yeah Okay So I wasn't physically attracted to him at first Yes Ugh But Throughout the trip We naturally gravitated towards each other And by the end We were sharing a room And sleeping together When we got back to the UK Bali romance That's nice We continued dating And made things official in August The relationship was honestly everything I'd ever wanted After coming out of a toxic relationship previously It felt healthy and fun And because we'd built it from a friendship It felt really solid I thought he was the one Then in 2024 I messed up Oh no I started a new job And got caught up in a situation With a guy at work Let's call him Gary So this is all happening on Nottingham soil At work Wow.

34:55Yeah. Long story short, I cheated on Brian. I regretted it immediately. Gary had also cheated on his girlfriend. And ended things with her straight away. Apparently no one's named their kid Gary in like a really long time. Yeah. I've got an uncle, Gary. Do you? Yeah. Shout out Gary then. I mean, you're not. I've not met the uncles. Maybe one time. You have. I don't know a Gary. Yeah. But another name I'll add to the mix. Wayne. Wayne there has not been a Wayne born or a Keith or a Paul actually there was a Paul in our year was there? yeah there was a Paul in my year but there has not been a baby Paul I want to say in 2026 there has Sam Fares baby's called Paul oh shout out Sam Fares then he's not a baby he's like a child because her husband's called Paul big Paul and little Paul yeah that's that's cute that's cute yeah he really suits it as well when i think of paul i think of that about that alien film yes and i'm just like yeah people it's called paul isn't it he's an alien called paul i feel like people would have seen that and gone oh i'm not naming my baby paul yeah anyway anyway uh gary so he cheated on his girlfriend ended things with her But straight away, Ben started laying it on Vic with me.

36:22I made it clear I didn't have serious feelings for him and that it was a mistake. But because we'd worked together every day, it quickly became messy and a situation I felt I couldn't get out of. So it kept going on. Because you slept together. He then broke up with his girlfriend and said, look, I'm all in on you. But you said no, no, no. Only because his fucking girlfriend's done to him. I'm not leaving my girlfriend. No, he broke up with the girlfriend. Well, yeah. Yeah, but. The guilt ate away at me. I didn't condone what I did at all, but selfishly, I couldn't bring myself to tell Brian. Brian didn't know.

36:52Instead, I pushed him away and we broke up in December 2024. I was devastated. I couldn't understand why I sabotaged something so good. But deep down, I knew the breakup needed to happen. Yeah. After some time apart, Brian and I had a few pleasant conversations over text and eventually planned to meet up in the May. It felt easy and normal, like no time has passed. while we were together we spontaneously booked a trip to rome for june it wasn't sorry one small thing about rome you know you can no longer sit on the spanish steps i knew that and you cannot sit on the trevi fountain well because they got so busy those fucking steps that it was carnage and you have to pay to get to the front of the fountain now you can't just waltz up to the fountain it's two euros a person and you can't sit on the edge you know we've got that picture of us sat on the edge of the fountain you can't sit on it anymore and you have to keep it's all like it's all like sectioned off and if you want to get to the fountain and throw your coin in you've got to pay two euros they're making and you can't sit on the steps like all the police came and cleared us all off the steps yeah i was like i thought this was the whole point we sit on the steps i think because they were eroding so bad yeah right i don't know anyway but they've been so busy like i remember last time i went to the trev you can't even get through it's so packed i know so packed it wasn't officially framed as a rekindle i knew he was still speaking to other girls and at the same time i was still occasionally seeing gary but i have made it very clear to gary that it was nothing serious yeah okay so you've got this trip to rome books but you're not really back together officially and he still doesn't know about gary and what went on there i don't think so no so june arrived and we caught off like to rome but it lasted less than 24 hours before everything blew up it somehow came up in conversation over dinner that i had a concert booked the week after rome with gary brian wasn't happy and gave me the ultimatum text gary and cancel or he'd book a flight home and never speak to me again in my head i knew it was a lose-lose situation because gary wasn't going to accept that out of the blue but i text him anyway to cancel and also confess that i was in rome with brian as he didn't know that oh my god within minutes Brian received an Instagram message request from Gary Oh my god Saying don't believe a word she says bro If you want to know the real her let me know Well yeah because he knows He knows what's going on Gary's turned against you Oh my god Brian replied and Gary told him about the cheating And went into explicit details Unfortunately truth is always going to come out Oh god Sarah this is stressful It was honestly one of the lowest points of my life I had both of them calling me vile names And laughing about me while I was in another country with Brian.

39:35I'm not pretending I didn't deserve consequences. I know I did wrong and Brian deserved the truth, but just the way it unfolded was brutal. The trip was ruined. We, the trip was ruined. We booked early flights home and he didn't say goodbye to me when we landed back in the UK. I mean, fair play. He just found out you cheated on him. I genuinely thought that was the end. I continued living my life, accepting I got what I deserved. And the whole truth was out in the open. about a month later brian reached out saying he wanted to try again i was skeptical it hadn't been long for him to process everything but he framed it as a now or never situation i truly believed he was the one and wanted to do everything i could to make things right so in august 2025 we started dating again oh my god we took it slow at first but we quickly slipped back into old habits there were moments where it felt like he was taking things out on me but he apologized i I convinced myself that rebuilding trust wouldn't be perfect.

40:31Overall, things felt good. We started speaking about the future again and spending long weekends together and yada, yada, yada. By that December, it almost felt normal again. This is December just gone. Jesus. We booked a spa break. He came to watch me and my choir performance. We spent Christmas Eve and New Year's together and even viewed a flat to rent. And on New Year's Day, he asked me to be his girlfriend again. Okay, nice. Okay, the trials and tribulations, you know, we're coming out on the other side. Yeah, yeah, yeah. what's happening now then what was our subject line I think he's gonna he's gonna spoof you that you're to go into Disneyland and then he's not but then you're getting blocked I literally didn't even remember that sorry Blueby he's out on his revenge arc I think is what's happening here oh my god for Christmas he gave me a handwritten card explaining he'd booked a trip to Disneyland Paris for my birthday in Feb as a joint Christmas and birthday present oh my god also like don't dangle that in my face if you don't mean it because like that's not okay well you're telling me and like Arndale's opening up too at Disneyland and I wanna go and see that what's opening up Frozen Land oh yes and there's some like I think I'm seeing I get fed a lot of Disneyland stuff the Disneyland in Japan is it yeah already has a Frozen Land is that correct it looks incredible and I think they have like a Tangled Land as well well you need to go to we need to go there and we need to go on the Sleeping Beauty ride remember have you seen those clips no I'm sure I sent you them before quite a while back and you're in a teacup no way why would you be in a teacup for Sleeping Beauty you mean Be in the Beast Be in the Beast You're in a teacup And you're at the ball No way And you're going And you're Yeah it's amazing Oh that's magical But it's all in Japanese But Who cares We can do Olingo A whole new No wrong song Wrong song Pink What song's in Sleeping Beauty No Move on Move on Move on For Christmas He Bloob Please don't lick my straw I'm not your mum She's licked poo on the street She's just licked your straw great it's good for my immune system it is no it actually is okay so the trip is to disneyland paris right um i was so grateful and excited we'd always spoke about going to disneyland throughout january he stayed at mine in knots for four or five days at time even booking annual leave to uh at work to spend time together things had never felt better we were going to our favorite restaurants laughing talking about the future he even came to my birthday meal with all my family who hadn't seen him since we broke up.

42:50I felt so secure and happy. Then came my birthday weekend. I had a bottomless brunch with my friends on Saturday. Where are we going out in Nottingham these days then? She said favourite restaurants. There's a lot of new spots, you know. Yeah, sure there is. A lot of new spots. I'm not being out in Nottingham in many, many moons. Well, they've got a Rudy's. I go back home, I go to my mum's house, I do the rounds, that's pretty much it. You need to go Rudy's. I didn't even know we had one. There's two. Wow. One in Wessie B, one in C.S. Don't go to Wessie B. it's good you've never had a rosie's pizza pizza i have on tour sheffield oh shout out me and mark of course i had a bombless brunch with my friends booked on saturday right and the plan was for brian to pick me up at 11 on sunday morning and drive us to the airport i hadn't spoken to him while i was out but you know i messaged him good night saying i was home and couldn't wait to see him at 7 a.m i text good morning it was sent one tick i noticed but didn't think much of it carried on cleaning up showering finished packing a couple hours passed you're just thinking he's packing whatever we've made the plan he's picking him up at 11 whatever a couple hours passed my message still hadn't been delivered my calls straight to voicemail this can't be real this is terrifying I tried calling on Instagram and that's when I realised calling on Instagram he had blocked me on Insta at that point I was completely confused my friends were still at my mine so they tried calling and texting him as they weren't blocked but he didn't answer anyone but also your first thought would be that he's dead not that you know he's got this whole fabricated plan of you know it was so out of character that we thought maybe he'd gone out and was still asleep eventually i messaged his mum because i was genuinely worried i explained you know he's meant to be picking me up for the airport soon and i couldn't get hold of him she replied saying she hadn't realized any of this was happening but she'd spoken to him and he was okay that's when my heart dropped he was ignoring me and all my friends deliberately oh god i decided to drive to his house as i felt i had no other option yeah yeah he had blocked me on every social media platform as well as my number and i wasn't gonna let him ghost me the day before my birthday with no explanation yeah when i got there he was home i could see him through the lounge window sitting on the sofa eating a chicken pitta and a baby bell yum yum i could smash a baby bell right now you know what i bought last night i went to mns just picked up the bag of the hot chicken wow just ate it was fantastic i was like i need to do this every day like why aren't i doing this daily you should chicken like that you know as a chicken eater you should have a rotisserie chicken just every day i know it's my new thing i bought two the whole car just smelled so good i was like but the poor chicken he eventually let me in and i was there less than five minutes oh god he was completely emotionless that is so scary as well like when they switch like that staring through me i asked what was going on oh my god he told me the parish trip was never real he never wanted to get back in a relationship with me he'd been sleeping with other girls the past six months we were dating and back together.

46:04No one in his life even knew we were back in contact. He wanted revenge. He came for revenge and he got it. He was angry. The spa break, the flat viewings, spending time with my family, all of it was fake. It was such a contrast to how he was with me just a couple of days prior at my house when he came to stay. Like a completely different human. What the fuck? I think I was in shock because I didn't even cry. Nothing added up, but I got enough answers. I'm so glad I went because otherwise he would have just blocked me and never explained anything he actually had to look me in the eyes and see the hurt he had caused everything he was trying to avoid by planning such a cowardly revenge plot I honestly never thought things like this happened in real life it's been the biggest emotional rollercoaster but weirdly I'm thankful it ended this way because I've seen exactly who he is the level of lying especially planning something like that around my birthday and sitting with my family days before taking a trip that didn't even exist says everything about him and nothing about me i really hope this dilemma reaches him and his friends and family so they know what a vile human being he really is and maybe they might hold him accountable one day because as of now he's walking the streets with no one around him knowing what he's capable of i'd really love your thoughts on this and any advice on how to move forward without letting it affect future relationships to be honest i do believe everything happens for a reason and i am excited to fall in love again one day i want him to know how happy i am since this is all unfolded i think he thought it would break me but it's the complete opposite and i can't wait for karma to come his way so this is actually a message out to him i mean sarah is actually sending she's giving sabrina carpenter let me see oh wow yeah gorgeous this is brian scary like weird man

47:49whoa yeah okay look sarah i mean you started your email saying you've never had a story you're not ick enough to write in you definitely provided a story for us today absolutely that was insane and we went on many many turns there obviously he never got over the cheating and then he thought he had this bright idea to lure you back in and then i mean you've got to be so like you have to feel sorry for him because he's clearly got so much time on his hands to create this huge revenge plot like i'm gonna lure you back in like i'm gonna spend all this time with you and your family like he booked this this was your christmas thing and he's still like he's he's he's made himself look really like it's really embarrassing for him because it's like god are you that well in his simple mind he just thought i need to get revenge and that's the only way he could yeah he's bitter very very bitter you know understandably he's upset you cheated on him yeah But to take it to such lengths Is extreme I think he probably realised He'd never get as good as a girl as you To be honest After seeing The images The images And he thought He has to knock you down a few pegs Yeah Because he knows You can just move on And like you're not going to struggle But then obviously You wanted to get the message out to him That you're doing great And you're happy And thriving And better than ever And thriving And better than ever And better than ever So shout out to Lots of lessons to be learned Yes absolutely You've learned a lot of lessons Don't cheat on your partner partner yeah i'd avoid people at work if passed yes definitely maybe we're not getting back with exes you know because it's not worked out this time yes that's actually a warning like curb to everyone you know you're a lover girl you wanted things to work yeah he said now or never like i see how you got here but that that's also just very scary manipulation and like i'd like to think that most people on this planet are not doing that are not plotting huge revenge plots like that in terms of moving forward just i think forget about men for a solid year yeah let's have a break to be honest i would say let's go to disneyland with the girls or the fam yeah have a nice time i mean do we even want to think about disney right now maybe not but it could be quite healing actually i think it could be good get your mini ears on get some food yeah and then you could post on socials i made it here without you yeah quite cryptic weekend ever yeah like onwards and upwards It's Disney style.

50:14Disney style. Yeah. And really make him weak. I know my dreams are coming true. Hashtag Disneyland. Yeah. How about yours? Yeah. Yeah. Will I find my prince? Don't mess with a man for at least a year. Focus on you and your friends. And then in time, you'll be ready to fall in love again. I mean, you already said you are looking forward to falling in love again. I think as long as we don't have infidelity going on, we're going to have a great time moving forward. Thanks for sharing the story, Sarah. You've entertained us all today. Absolutely.

50:49Oh, gosh. Right, we're talking cheating once more. He cheated on me with the last person I expected. Well, I hope it's not your mom or your sister. Or your brother. So if it's not... Or your dad. Or his cousin. His cousin. remember when you you you thought it was legal to sleep with your cousins or something no i thought it was illegal and you said it's not illegal what i think you need to get your facts straight i said surely that's not legal in some states in america it is actually legal yeah yeah i thought it was illegal i believe yeah and have inbred babies i thought it was illegal it is illegal you just said it was legal in a few states in maybe like one or two states okay but as a baseline it's illegal it's illegal so when you have children teach them not that it's illegal to get with their cousins yeah yeah i'm putting my money on it was the cousin i mean ross tried to snog his cousin yeah crazy what the fuck was that actually did that it must been legal in New York at the time.

52:00Right? Because that is fucked. I guess not all cousins are blood relatives. Like through marriage you can have cousins. Oh, then that's fine. Right. What do you mean? All my cousins are blood. What cousins have you got that ain't blood? Through like a marriage that she had kids with someone else. They're now married. Who's she? Well, they got divorced. so i no longer see those cousins but for a while i was like oh these guys are like my cousins oh but they were just more family friends well no they were they were like it was like your mum's got a friend and she's auntie susan no like one of my uncles got married to someone who has kids right okay yeah would you like government names or are you gay i think i need government names but technically you could have got with one of those boys is that what you're saying and it and you wanted to so you're saying inbred child no it would have been healthy yes yeah but technically that would be my cousin well yeah by by yeah right right right getting off track right anyway anyway yeah my money's on cousin hi girls i started listening to the pod when I first got into running.

53:23Runners Unite. The podcast runners, a shout out, I commend. Absolutely. I don't know how you do it. Never thought I'd be writing in. But then again, who bloody does? Not me. Wrote in loads of times. I'm writing because I just really need to vent and ask good advice on how to move forward. I'm 27. Let's get it, girl. Pound that pavement. Absolutely, girl. With those Adidas runners. absolutely let's go headphones in world out Garmin on absolutely and my ex will call him Brian you know I bought a new pair of wireless headphones Beats ones yeah they're not noise cancelling oh I mean string headphones for me when I was on the plane I could hear everything it was awful that's not good they're not big enough maybe they just haven't got the noise cancelling yeah I'm 27 and my ex will call him Brian How old is she again, sorry?

54:19She is 23. We were together for eight years, on and off. Fucking hell. So from 18. If I'm honest, he's hurt me before, and in hindsight, I probably shouldn't have gone back, but I loved him and believed the promises. This last time truly felt different. We were older, wiser, completely solid. Then I fell pregnant. Wow, congratulations. And everything seemed to click into place. Oh my god, congratulations Last year was a whirlwind In May we bought our first home Moved in Five days later, sorry Bought our daughter home It felt like everything we worked towards for years Was finally happening I thought we were secure I thought we were a family We were truly on cloud nine Who was he cheated with?

55:08The nanny The midwife Then in September everything changed Our little girl was only four months old And I was really struggling with becoming a new mum We'd just moved, taken on bills Our baby had been poorly and had an operation Oh my god I tried to talk to him as I could tell something was off And thought he was struggling too So that we could support each other But he completely shut me down Then the night after, that's when he told me I'm just not happy anymore Oh my god Give it a fucking break mate We've got a four month old Like buckle in like let's just deal with it like yeah like life's different life like i've got all this going on i've had a baby yeah apparently it wasn't the stress the house or our poorly baby it was me everything i did annoyed him we lived together for two more weeks barely speaking i had a million questions he had no answers oh my god sarah i wrote him a letter explaining how i felt suggesting ways we could meet in the middle and how i just wanted my best friend back he never even acknowledged it oh my god oh my god during those two weeks he'd say he was staying at friends or going to the gym and just wouldn't come home completely AWOL it's like you're a fucking dad you fucking idiot you have a huge responsibility like what the fuck is going on with you mate one night he went to kfc and never came back we had joint accounts and i noticed one day he'd started transferring half the money out oh my god i later found out that he hadn't been staying at friends at all he'd been cheating on me so while i was at home with our newborn he was with another woman susan well who the fuck is susan i now know the money was to take susan to manchester what are we doing in manny in manchester when i found out i obviously packed his things and told him he couldn't live here anymore good but he would always be welcome to see our daughter Only two months later, he moved in with Susan.

57:08Who the fuck is Susan? Oh my God, and here's the worst part. What? Susan is his... Cousin? Stepsister. So it's like your technicality, but we're not collected by blood. No. What, they grew up together in the same house? Yeah. I believe so. You Susan Have been on nights out with me Like Wasn't this the guy that you were with for 8 years Yeah So she So you've grown up with Susan too She knows Susan What the fuck Susan's been on nights out with me and Brian While we were still together She was even invited to my baby shower We as a sister It's the auntie of your child Yeah It honestly sounds like a TV show I know I really wish it was It's so confusing Because a couple of weeks before this We were his two favourite girls and even through life even though life had completely changed we had still lots of laughs and inside jokes it's not saying it was all sunshine and rainbows it did get really hard at times but moving in together and having a baby are two of the hardest adjustments to life what kind of person turns their back on you when you're four months postpartum yeah that's fucked and then goes to lead another life so soon after with your stepsister there was no grace given at such a difficult time i'm so lucky to have the most amazing friends and family who have carried me through this thank god like so quick to throw the towel and i would never change anything because my beautiful little girl has my whole heart i'm still pretty shaken it hurts me to see them playing happy families with my little girl of course it honestly has traumatized me i genuinely worry i'll never be able to trust a man again i mean fair and i'm still only in my 20s.

58:57Any advice to this Sarah who's had a pretty bad turn of events? Pics attached. Me and the little lady. Oh my god. No, look at the baby. Look at the baby. Oh. Potato. Oh my god. That little fluffy jacket. A cute potato. Really cute. Number two. Me and Brian. Only two and a half months before everything went down. Shit. So let's see the sister shagger or whatever. Ming. Ming-o. Ming-o. Ming-ing. Ming, Ming, Ming.

59:34Susan posting on his Facebook wall for everyone to see. Happy birthday. Babe. Are we still doing that? Are we still doing that? Susan is. But Susan's banging her brother, so who knows? It's a bit blurry, but here's the stepsister and them together. bit blurry but sorry they're literally snogging they're brother and sister babes that's not right that's it that's all we've got here I mean what an idiot not the Facebook post that tells us everything we need to know have they been well obviously they've been in love since forever no yeah since unless they've become like Like, is it a case that their parents have very recently got married and they didn't grow up together?

1:00:31Maybe. You know, it's a new, they've met as like, I'm not excusing it, but is it a case that they've met as like 27-year-olds? Or have they grown up in the same house together as like eight-year-olds? I guess we're not going to know. It's mental. It's still fucked. It's still fucking weird. Oh, God, Sarah, that's a wild turn of events. Like the fact that you just moved in, it was all going so great. You're having this baby, like you're starting your family. Like you finally feel like this is where I'm meant to be. Like we're on the right track. And then it all, he just like up and leaves. I think it's disgusting.

1:01:03And he just thinks that's okay to do that. Yeah, I think it's disgusting. Men are disgusting. That is disgusting. You're better off without him. I'm glad you've got your family and your friends to support you. You're better off without him and your little girl. Let him know that he's a pig and disgusting. Look, it's not going to last with him and his fucking sister. It's not going to last. like one family there you know her posting on his facebook page it's all a facade yeah we don't need to you know like pictures of us snogging a lot of the loudest couples are the most unhappy couples so the time most of the time so it's not all sunshine and rainbows over there i believe you know and also like imagine being her like imagine how is she okay like he's just had a He's got a baby.

1:01:45He's got a four month old. Yeah. He's obviously thinks the grass is greener and it's not. No, it's not. I'm glad you've got a good support system around you. I'm glad you've got your daughter. He's ruined the best thing that's ever happened to him. Completely. And I know like you are so against like any sort of male contact right now. But one day in the future, I don't doubt like someone will love you and your daughter so much. And it will all finally make sense. Fall into place. It just doesn't really make sense right now. You don't need a man. You've got your daughter. You've got your family.

1:02:18Let's not even think about that right now. That's crazy. Let's just focus on. We've had some crazy turn of events today. Raising our child. These men are just absolutely. Sleeping with your step-sister. Are you joking? Yeah, it's disgusting. It's scary that someone that you knew for like a decade as well would do that. Would then go and do that. And you didn't like, oh my God. Like you think you can leave just because I've had a baby. And go to your step-sister. Sorry? You idiot. No, no What planet are you on? No Well, no Shall we have a star of the week? Yes, please I think we need it Yes, please Someone who's not faking Disneyland trips And who's not shagging their sister The bar is low this week Alright, let's lift the vibes Absolutely We need it I would like to nominate my Brian He is the most caring, special person Who treats me like a princess every day Nice I live alone, so often fall behind with DIY and bits and bobs Same So him being the act of service king he is will always surprise me with sorting out these little jobs.

1:03:19Nice. He also had a holiday booked when we met, which meant he was away for my birthday. So to make me still feel celebrated, he took me on a birthday trip the week before where he spoiled me rotten. Nice. I even got two huge bunches of flowers delivered on my actual birthday tour. Nice. In the last few months, I've taken up pottery. I'm loving it so much. Nice. However, I have been struggling with the high membership costs in the studio. even though we've only been together for six months he's taken it upon himself to set up my own little pottery studio in his shed in the garden oh brian that is nice he's been so excited about it brainstorming all sorts of things he can build to make it perfect for me that is really really thoughtful he is so so kind and i truly feel lucky every day to have a brian that loves me so much oh and i think for this and so many other reasons he deserves a star of the week he absolutely does deserve it look at these two pottery you guys can pottery naked together blueberry approves this message oh it's always good to end on a high isn't it guys it is blueberry isn't it well thank you so much for listening everybody if you would like a bonus episode you can get one every single monday over on patreon and if you have a dilemma or a star of the week entry you can email it to hello at thegirlsbathroom.com.

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