Girl Talk: Her dad wants to WINE AND DINE ME?!

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1:12You know the drama is never ending. Don't let it get the best of you. Hey, what's up? Party time on a Wednesday. What's up, you guys? yes we're back we're back back in here help us mother chinsley's got her mother top on today well i just discovered this brand and obviously as a mother i really you know struck a chord with me absolutely and everything has mother on it so wrapping the three quarter once again of course you know very passionate about it very passionate about the the length on me um yeah as a mother it's great to represent for other mothers let everyone know i'm a mother if you don't know get to know if you don't know get to know it's a hard job blueberry's also looking super fresh she is she's off camera right now just having a break from the cameras you know um she needs privacy absolutely um but she looks beautiful she's had a lovely groom she looks amazing she looks like a brand new she looks different yeah almost unrecognizable yeah well think it's it's it's if i it's like a good wash and blow yeah yeah a good one if i got a pixie cut and went blonde essentially well who's that it's me Jincia you don't recognise me yeah and that's how I felt when she came out she looks more blonde than ginger yes like she's like a fresh head of highlights because every time she goes they're chopping off the ginge and all this and this blight hair is coming through yeah well we're feeling good the sun's shining today thank god I feel like spring has kind of sprung I'm in I'm going to speak too soon well I'm in full summer mode me I'm ready for it I'm full summer mode I think it's summer like same I'm buying flip flops I'm buying pumps I've still got my toes out yeah I'm thinking it's fully here when that blue sky came out absolutely SPF on even though it should be on all the time absolutely even through the winter yes even thinking about dyeing my hair a bit lighter oh well obviously it's not gonna happen but it was just a thought when that sun comes out a little bit of honey I you know I often get served memories of that New York on my iPhone we can't talk of it we can't talk of it I really like it when you've got a bit of lightness in your hair.

3:19Really? Always. But you never like it. No, I didn't. Maybe it was the length. I think what I've learned is, you know, the long hair, of course, down to the bum crack, isn't actually the look for me. Oh, wow. It's too long, drowns me out. Drowns me out. I'm all hair, nobody like. Do you know what I mean? She's all hair. Oh, yeah. Can't even see her behind her. Some people are just all hair. Oh, this is really interesting. Okay, you don't like the long hair anymore. I thought we were doing the long curls for, you know, an Italian summer I know I know well we'll see my hair is growing at a rapid rate yeah it is really long and luscious thank you miss you're welcome almost reaching your length mine's looking a bit drab these days but I'm due for my appointment soon so looking forward to it absolutely you get that blonde injection in I think I'm gonna go red you know really switch it up I mean I support that yeah I think that would rock maybe pink that would rock yeah I need to tell you what happened to me at the weekend on the pod or yeah on the pod Wow, brilliant.

4:19Let me enjoy. Dive in, guys. Sit back. Thank you for being here. This is a story for all. This is a story time. Let's go. Story for all. Obviously wanted to try. Liddy was in town, so I thought let's go to Pilates. Let's try a new class. Are we still going to the class that you are like the only member at? I was, I think Pilates, just me doing Pilates wasn't the best for my body. Yeah. Okay. Interesting. I need to lift some you know iron some weights yeah otherwise it's just a bit yeah seriously you know got a lot more muscle going on gotta keep it up unfortunately she wasn't cutting it even though I did love that spot I hope she's still open me too with the five solo classes I had I'm not too sure it's concerning to be honest I'm not too sure and also the prices were skyrocketing every session it was£20 more I couldn't believe my eyes.

5:18What? They were£65 a class at one point. No, they weren't. Yes, they were. And I was like, these, I was like, this was£30. No, that's a scam. I was like, this was£30 when I started coming and now it says£65. What? In the space of like, yeah. Two months? For a basic, it was like for the basic class. Yeah. Whoa. I know. So I was like, actually, you know, I'm a mother at this point. I've got pet grooming. I've got doggy daycare. I've got a lot of extra bills on my plate. I've got overheads and I'm a single parent. this is a lot so i thought let's just try a new pilates spot okay where's this story going you've got no idea sophia you're not ready for where this story is about to go okay uh so and it's nice to try a new place with lydia you know she was in town it's a bit daunting going to a new place you know solo absolutely new place actually full and road near remy's nice oh drove past it did you yes so you know what i'm talking about and and my yes something weird like that exactly where it is anyway booked on but paid for lydia booked us on whatever it's big sister tree absolutely get there and i did think when i booked it it was this it was like you know there was all these different names of the classes different names of the classes this one was noodle lattes no this is a lie i've seen this on tiktok no no she thinks i'm stupid i think she's not chronically online i've been wanting to do this for so long seen it i said don't say yeah you spoiled it oh i thought you were locked in i was locked in i told you that it was a naked I saw like strawberry and blueberry.

7:00Those girls do it. And she really fooled her sister. Milk mob. You should have just played along. You biatch. Sorry. And it was just meant to be fooled that I went to a naked Pilates class. Would you? What?

7:17Well, like, because like, you know, the laser's working. You know, I could be caught off guard anytime with any nakedness and like I'm bold. She's ready to go. You know what I mean? Like from toes to fucking forehead. bold you know and there's a lot of jealous bitches in this room who are still growing a lot of pussy hair yeah oh no i wanted to prank sophia so bad but look she's woke and she's locked in i'm proud of sophia online i'm chronically online i'm proud of sophia for that uh yeah noodle artes oh good time no i got it's called noodle artes i knew your face looked weird I was like, what's she about to say?

7:57I was a bit nervous. It's been in my notes app for a while. I'm proud of myself. Well done. She wasn't full because Sophia can be a bit naive at times. And it's called Noodle Eyes. I thought you were going to lock into that. For a minute, I was like, oh, it's noodles. And then I was like, oh. Wow. Well, that was a thrill. Yeah, it was. That was a real thrill. That was a moment for us all. Surely you could fool Angie with that, no? Oh, yeah. Do you know what? Absolutely we could. But what a good shout. Absolutely. Yeah. I mean, it must exist out there in the world. Defo. Maybe like a nudist beach.

8:38There's some people doing that. Yeah, there's some. Or doing yoga. Yeah, there's definitely some people doing that. Definitely. Yeah. The crazy horse girls. Yeah. You know? Wow. To be a crazy horse girl. Fucking hell. To be a crazy horse girl. Well, there's a lot of requirements we don't reach, unfortunately. Well, now with the bold pussies. you could probably get it when you say pussy i don't like that with a bob pussy let's just go back to the classic vagina okay yeah with the bald vagina yeah you may be able to get i'm sure that's a requirement no but the requirement is like five foot seven number one you've got to read the height requirement they're all the same height remember same height yes and And then number two, like, A cup.

9:21Sorry. Unfortunately. No, some of them have big tits. Oh, shit. My bad. But I mean, slender. Unfortunately, I'm not.

9:33They're like five foot seven. I'm very lean. Like, I won't fit in in the lineup. I don't mind you. Okay. That's fine. But wig wearing, we can do that. We can wear a wig. Can't we? Yeah. and so he has definitely got those moves in the bag if anyone's ever been to crazy what about that one what's their song crazy like i'm sorry but to be a crazy horse girl is like like goals like goals like you know because also like moulin rouge there's hundreds of girls on the stage right there's like six crazy horses but there's only yeah like literally there must be max 10 if they're rotating or whatever yeah the one that rotates on that table and the one that does that horse dance with the neon pit on her legs insane with her bum and then the men sat there with their girlfriends like or they're like this just looking off to the side trying to look at they take it too seriously the men and it freaks i'm like just smile i'm like just just relax like you're not gonna like you were born for a reason like it's a fun date night it's meant to be Just keep your eyes focused somewhere On her face or something Not on the nipples Just keep it focused in one's position Position Bosoms You're looking at her bosoms No

11:00But I'm We need to take Grace to Crazy Hall She's been dying to go We went with her, no? Grace Nicholson No, government name Grace Marie It's not Marie That blows though Wait why do I feel like we've been with her now We have not we've just spoke about it I feel like we've been a couple times We have we've been a solid three Yeah but who've we been with Ourselves one time Another time when we went on that trip And then we went back again With Lyd We've been like three solid times And Magic Mike we've been a solid twice. We've not been there in a while. We need to go back. We OD'd I think. We did but we're ready I think.

11:45Twice in the space of like six months so it's like a bit embarrassing. Yeah they were recognising us. Oh there's those girls again. That blonde one is dying to come up on the page. Look at her. She's salivating. That Brina one keeps trying to make us feel her smooth legs. Right well shall we dive in? Happy Wednesday everyone. Yeah do you know what? That's a great idea. Let's do questions of the week. That's a really good idea. That's just so unique. good idea isn't it yeah really forward thinking so it's girl talk everybody and our question of the week this week is what is something you'd only admit anonymously oh it's giving ask a fan yeah scary scary um i've used his oh oh i've used his mum's flannel to wash my vagina

12:40no Sarah what do you mean with your vagina with her son's as she as like her son just came inside of you and you've just gone to clean up your vagina why but what other reason oh I was picturing her like midnight just had sex she's run up to the bathroom she's like where's the plano and it's like her mom's being flannel she's like wiping everything up sarah sarah like this is the same space but sarah come on look means to when it was survival instinct yeah like hopefully it's like ross with the leather trousers like survival instinct like she saw a flannel she needed a cleaning utensil there was a flannel on the side my boyfriend and i have paid for threesomes oh that's professional lovely yeah at least we've been it professional my brother's wife oh sorry she said my brother's wife pissed me off i thought she said my brother's wife pissed on me so i used her towel to wipe after having a wee no okay yeah i mean look that's quite nice revenge but like then she's putting that in her eye like she's gonna get like pink eye yeah i fancy my boyfriend's brother okay okay yeah yeah sometimes you realize you made the wrong choice yeah sometimes and also yeah and they're gonna look similar they're gonna look similar this is why my worst nightmare is to be a twin you know okay yeah because then there's another person who looks similar to myself yeah so true you know well you obviously fancy us both awkward and also like surely they've got identical like private parts why did your mind have to go there everyone has different unique flowers no not twins though right oh the men no anyone anyone yeah of course identical twins like their boobs are going to be identical that's true that's true yeah teeth yeah that's true that's true and vaginas i guess i guess i'm still logged into my ex's account and troll people in his dms nice love that instagram how do you not notice that though i don't know maybe he's not really uh in the dms down with the tech i'm madly in love with my neighbor and he's 10 years older than me.

14:53Okay. I think that's okay, actually. That's a good love story night. Oh, this one's very U-coded. Oh. I like it when my dog licks my feet. You love that. You told me yesterday. For the record. I don't enjoy that. That's why you got a dog, wasn't it? Yeah, to exclusively lick my toes. We've got... I keep my... I kept my wart after having it burnt off 15 years ago. Oh, that's disgusting. the word wart is also just like a really horrible word it is where are you keeping that that's low-key who's like kept our belly button that makes me knocks me sick the belly button like we've had to have talks about that um i don't find it gross when there's a hair in my food i can't touch the rest of the meal sorry i can't go back to it i slept with my manager and got a promotion oh well you know silver linings it's given yeah i watch my own tiktoks more than anyone else's yeah look art is art you know you create something spectacular watch it time and time again yeah absolutely get those views up yeah i have a sugar daddy and my boyfriend doesn't know what he doesn't know can't hurt him yeah get some money you know i enjoy picking fluff out on my toes how is fluff being being made in your toes does she just mean from fluffy socks no I think she's talking like fluff like toenail toenails don't do that toe separation fluff but how is it gathering there like how long are you not washing for it to gather there you know I don't know about that one I slept with a famous actor's brother And thought about the actor the whole time Most people would Who was it?

16:52I used my massage gun as a vibrator Ouch Those things are powerful They're really like The muscle gun Yeah that's what she said They are powerful I dipped my flatmate's toothbrush In the toilet But look, if it was warranted, fine. Ouch. That was all. Wow. That took us on a journey today, truly. I enjoyed that. Yeah, me too.

17:24Just before we get into it, quick disclaimer. Just to say, we are not doctors. We are not professionals. We do not actually know what we are talking about. This is a lighthearted space. Okay. Don't take what we say literally because we could be wrong. Yeah. And if there's anything serious, if there's anything you feel like you're seriously struggling with, Please contact a GP, a professional, because that is not us. We're just girls, girls and boys just like you, you know? We're just trying to get through life as well. Not professionals. Enjoy the episode. Right, you take it away, miss. Okay, I don't know if we've had this one before for Girl Talk.

17:55We've got my housemate treats me like a child. Oh, what, like you're incompetent of, like, can I make sure you... Yeah, don't forget. Make sure you put the... You know, like that. Yeah, yeah. Patronizing you. Patronizing in a way that like you've got no initiative to do anything for yourself. I think so. I've just moved into a new share house, which I found through a mutual friend of the girls already living here. I jumped at the chance for it because my lease was ending at my old house and all the girls were moving away. So I needed something secured. The arrangement was nice enough. One of the girls, Sarah, her parents actually own the house and she's just moved out from her parents' house.

18:35That's nice. one it's nice this meant no deposit and no rental inspections i moved in a couple of weeks ago but sarah wasn't staying at the time because her car broke down and her parents house is closer to her job so she's staying there for a few days that was fine i was able to move my stuff in and get acquainted with the space without awkwardly shuffling around people is it just you and sarah then maybe the arrangement is sarah has the front of the house which is the master bedroom and a smaller lounge room and me and the other girl okay three of you susan get the back half of the house oh so there's like a couple living rooms that's really nice this was fine susan and i work different hours so we don't see each other that much so we haven't really gotten the chance to speak um when we do see each other in passing you know it's a little bit awkward i don't think she's much of a talker and when she's got her boyfriend over they don't speak to me and sarah at all.

19:32It's not bad, but it's really weird for me coming from my old house where I became girls, best friends with the girls instantly. Whenever we had people over, we'd always all come together in the kitchen and hang out. So this is just a new dynamic to get used to. That aside, my real problem is with Sarah. So this is the landlord's daughter, right? As I said, she's never lived out of home before and she is an only child she is also a year older than me 23 and when she walked me through the house when i moved in she said a couple of weird things but i let them go like only use blue hand towels for your hands the others are for dishes okay i mean fair i wouldn't have known the blue was for the just for the hands and the others were for the dishes right yeah and always clean them up straight away when you're done okay okay that's not too bad like two house rules especially if that was like hygiene rules if that was the initial tour yeah fine point out the things yeah maybe it's fine to have rules but just strange coming from an environment where we all just trusted each other to not be you know right essentially do you think because her parents own the house she's almost like this is my house I think so, yeah.

20:50I think she feels a bit more responsible for it. And it's not just like, look, I'm going to keep my bit clean and you keep your bit clean. I think she probably has this like overwhelming sense of like, I need to keep this place, like looking in ship shape. Okay, so it's not the dynamic that you're used to. There was one thing she said, which I thought was super weird. She said, if you want to use the dining table to have people over, no worries. Just let me know one week in advance. What? Why? What, to use the table? Why? But also like, I also live here. I'm also paying to be here. So like, I am allowed to use a table when I want.

21:26Apparently because she wants her parents over a lot, which is kind of weird as they have their own house 10 minutes away. But also I wanted to tell her that's kind of overkill. I don't know if I'm going to have people over till a couple of days before at best. Why is she having her parents over? Why can we hug the dining? Why do you have to book the dining table in a week in advance? No, that doesn't make sense. it's not like you're at a restaurant but also like can i book the dining table please yeah 8 p.m i'm gonna have about three people that doesn't make any sense 15 minutes late i've canceled the booking that doesn't make any sense she also stays at her parents quite a bit then randomly appears at like half nine in the kitchen uh singing around the house cleaning the kitchen then she'll disappear again okay she also told me to use the gate if i'm coming in and going uh late early hours because her dog sleeps in her room and barks when she walks past.

22:18Oh, fair. Which I think is kind of annoying because I usually don't know when she's at home. She keeps her car in the garage. And I'm also not going to go all the way around the house at 11 o 'clock at night when it's dark, especially in the winter. There was also an incident today where I was using a chopping board to cut some chicken. I left it on the bench and went to sit down whilst my food was still cooking because she was using the sink. The chicken on the board? Yeah. a board i don't know or just she left the board out yeah so that has had raw chicken on it so you should probably like whoa is she sarah's here so you should probably i definitely wash that straight away because the bacteria is going to fucking will supply and then it's going to go airborne and then we're all going to get color and we're all going to fucking die we're going to get the black pill you haven't booked that dining table get off yeah yeah um the literal second I sat down she stopped using the sink and told me can you clean that as soon as you're done using it you know salmonella she's just like yeah I feel that's me then when Lydia's in my flat I'm like can you fucking pick that up yeah but I would only say that yeah her tone wasn't mean yeah and I said yeah sure and got up to do it right away but it's like I know I've lived out of home for two years like I'm an adult I know how to be an adult yeah yeah uh I'm worried she's gonna be like this about lots more stuff it's only been a few weeks but I'm already avoiding doing things around her in case I do it wrong yeah yeah it's so much harder because she's technically the landlord but I'm already over it she seems like a really kind person but I'm worried I'm going to resent her for hovering right I don't really want to move out because I've only just moved in and the Aussie or in Australia it's like quite a sweet deal as well I feel like it's a really sweet deal yeah and also there's just three girls like she's got her own living room she's got the own yes we have to reserve the dining table but we can eat in our bedroom we can eat at the counter we can stand and eat like at the window sorry also we're in Australia we can eat outside yeah we can go to the beach yeah pick up a yochi on the way home Absolutely.

24:26Yeah, that's it. Yeah, look, I think maybe just give it some time. Find your guys' feet. Yes. Look, and if you've got to avoid her, you've got to avoid her. I mean, I do think it's good that you think she's kind and she's nice. Like, you don't think she's nasty. Yeah. I think she's probably just like, like we said at the beginning. She's just a bit anal. She's maybe not designed to live with other people. You know, she likes the things the way she likes them. She is probably a prime candidate for solo living. and maybe she's finding it a little bit tricky to live with other people especially in somewhere that she feels like is her home I think that's what it is and it's a bit like oh could you do that could you not do that blah blah blah but at the end of the day like if you she can't hover over you like you are paying to live there you've signed a contract of imagining or what you've got an agreement um and she's not your mom so like I think as long as you keep showing up to be a respectful you know tenant relatively tidy like housemate then she will be absolutely fine but maybe it's just like early days and she's just trying to like she's trying to like lay the law just like letting you know like i am watching what you're picking up and putting down like i am making sure you're tidying up yeah yeah but you'll find your feet you'll get and also i think she will calm down a little bit as well listen i would rather live with a neat freak than a fucking like you know mold building slob who's leaving like everything out so like you go into the kitchen and all her shits out and it stinks and her balls and this like you know when someone who's got their trampy boyfriend around yeah seven nights a week like i would rather be with the clean freak me too there are like if you're gonna tell me to tie that up tie that up now do you know what absolutely because i'll just do that now otherwise yeah i might have done it in 15 minutes but who cares who cares i've got a sweet deal exactly but yeah i think she's just feeling a bit protective over her space but i would rather that than someone who can't clean up without for themselves.

26:32Uh-huh. We have a tale as old as time here. A situation. Situation. Quotes, the girl best friend. I feel like we've not had this in a while. And she's put yawn. Snooze. Okay, let's dissect this then. What's going on? Long time listener, especially on long drives to work. I'm very sorry if this is too long, but trust me, it's barely, barely half of it. Wow. Myself and my boyfriend, Brian, I'm going to tell you also what happened at the weekend. What? I was walking in Blueberry about 6pm. Yeah, nice. Some was just setting. It was light. It was like half five, walking back at 6pm, still like beautiful.

27:11Wow. And walking, walking, walking. I look up at these flats. I'm on the TV. We're on the TV. This is on the TV. What? oh yeah in someone's house yes no yes and i was like oh my god it's me and like she was on like the first floor so like we were pretty close we were on the tv yeah and i was like oh my god it's me i was trying to get a video but i couldn't and i was like oh my god there she had a glass of wine she had a glass of wine and she sat down i was like oh my god like yeah she was like wednesday yeah and i was like wow wow wow and then because her sofa was like backing up again that's a down glass of wine alcohol evening yeah ladies love it wow and then by some reason she turns around looks out the window and i'm stood there and i'm in my leopard print coat and i've got my leggings on i was like and it took her a while to be like who's that and i was out from the telly I was like, I was like, and she was like, and then she came out on a balcony and we chatted.

28:16Oh my God, that's so nice. Isn't that so nice? What a wonderful story. It was just lovely. I enjoyed it very much. I love people who keep their blinds up. Yeah, me too. Look what happens when you keep your blinds up. Me too. We've seen many a thing, haven't we, Sophia? That's so sweet. It was just such a nice surprise. I was like, wait a second. That's the Girls' Backroom podcast. That's my podcast. Well that's really sweet You can come and sit now Blueby Come on But yeah glass of wine It's really good It's wine time yeah Yeah Love that Rosé on ice Rosé Bit of white wine Yes ladies Right So myself and my boyfriend Brian Yes Have been together since last spring So about a year Everything has been wonderful Until You guessed it Taylor's oldest time The girl best friend i'm exhausted already so has this been a whole year of like okay is this stuff that's just kind of triggering you now or has this been going on the i'm assuming the entirety of the relationship no since so this is the girl best friend since high school right susan used to go out with brian's boy best mate until she cheated on him brian has remained friends with them both um she's an aspiring presenter and from what brian has told me not a girl's girl at all okay she has never liked any of the girls that brian has gone out with before which is a major red flag in itself okay she performed a gig not long after myself and brian started going out oh singer of sorts singer songwriter producer yeah um which brian invited me along to that's nice of him nice got me a ticket and informed why is brian friends with him her her sorry like this is the girl that cheated on your best mate i know that's so true why are we friends with this girl it's kind of random it's a very loose link that doesn't need to be linked you've said it yeah you've said it truly yeah there was no reason to maybe he because surely his mate has got a problem with that yeah That's not a normal friendship connection.

30:29But if they're giving it all like, oh, we've been friends from school, like it was school days. I don't know. So inform Susan that was coming along. I mean, green flag from Brian that straight away before you guys are official, he's bringing you to meet her and whatever. Letting her know about you. Before the gig, we went to a pub to meet up with her beforehand. Is she not warming up? She's not got vocal stuff to do Obviously not She could be burping on stage Doesn't alcohol It's not good for the throat Dries up the vocal cords It's not good for the It's not good for lubrication You know We would know You know It's best to have some Manuka honey and hot tea Absolutely Not a beer Dry out the vocal cords Not a burpy beer Burp I mean a beer It'll be going downhill Coke Zero even is pushing it You know Coke Zero Yeah Okay But she's obviously relaxed She's confident in her gig You know She doesn't need to Be sad I mean maybe she's a comedian Maybe she's not singing That's true She actually needs to loosen up Yeah That's true With liquid courage That's true Well then I support it So I met with her beforehand We walk in Brian introduces me And we sit down Her boyfriend was there Oh this is lovely Nice So you're thinking We've got double dates on the cards Yeah I like where this is going Yeah absolutely So lovely So welcoming I made an effort to speak with me The whole night Okay Nice Susan on the other hand Oh the boyfriend Right but susan on the other hand completely ignores me i went to university in the same place that she lives which i thought might be a good conversation starter for us both yeah so nightclubs to talk about we've got restaurants we've got city vibes naturally if someone says around there yeah anyone says to us i went uni in nottingham instantly we've got a lot to flow whoa okay so we're not she's not open to conversation no we're not off to a flying start yeah uh so i just try to initiate conversation tell me why susan physically moves her entire body so her back is is to me what how do people behave in this way like seriously it's just very unnecessary what have you got against me you're here with your boyfriend it's very simple what's going on it's very simple she's in love with him i know but she's got a boyfriend as well but it's very simple there's no reason to act like that there's no reason unless you you love him there's really no reason you just want to keep him single for some reason yeah I don't know.

32:53Right? There's no reason to act like that. Make it make sense. Like, that does not make sense. Exactly. I tried to speak to her again on the walk over to the gig. Maybe she's not in the gig. Oh. Maybe we're just going to a gig. Maybe we're just going to a gig. Why did we think she was on stage performing? She said she had a gig, no? I guess we'll find out. Maybe she just had tickets to a gig. Right. Spare tickets to a gig, right. some of her friends who were also there were being rude to my boyfriend why is he even mates with this girl therefore he wanted to leave before the gig had even started I thought she would stay to support I thought we would stay to support her it is her gig it would look odd if we just left fast forward to the gig she ignores me all night but is all over my boyfriend even after me and Brian have been kissing hugging and being touchy-feely in front of her after the gig she said to the gig she's not on the stage this lady is not on the stage she's there at the gig with them i think it's her gig me too but then she said fast forward to the gig she ignores me all night well she's on stage she's on stage so she's got to be in she's got to be in the crowd she's working um she's crowd surfing yeah I made it clear afterwards how she was being rude to both of us and I wouldn't really want to see her again okay nice I'm glad you set your boundaries there with Brian yeah unless fast yeah unless she made some sort of effort to speak to me Brian agreed and said he would not speak about me to her and would cut contact due to her not being very supportive friend to him either okay okay so you're kind of thinking I'm not gonna have anything really to do with you anymore neither is brian yeah you're out of here you were just a friend from school bad vibes yeah see ya right you go fast forward to now i have not been feeling too great i only shared this with brian and my parents as i am a private person and hopeful that this period will pass tell me why brian messaged susan and told her what i was going through asking for advice oh oh that's really uncomfortable yeah i saw this on brian's phone of course asked him about it and his response was that he wanted some advice on how best to support me no no no no no no he later yeah but that's my if that's my personal business yeah and like trust he later agreed that it was wrong and that he should not have shared this with her yeah because now she's gossiping to everyone all their mates she's got no loyalties to brian we both know that like i didn't get off to a great why would you ever think i would want her to know my personal business yeah and also we can't trust her with that information so why are you confiding in her it's weird weird really weird yeah you know what it's kind of giving it's kind of giving like those two get together when they're like in that single it's kind of giving like he's like oh maybe this relationship not that it is sarah but like this relationship is maybe on the out and he's like i don't know letting her know and Because it's kind of like, we've had that before.

35:57It's like a girl messaging a boy like, yeah, my boyfriend's doing this. Like, what do you think? And it's like, she's on her way out and she's going to hop in with that one instead. Hop in with him, yeah. Not to scare you, Sarah. Yeah, not that that's happening. It kind of feels like he's setting something else up. He's letting her know that things aren't great and that we might be on our way out.

36:19It's not trustworthy behavior. So following on from that, I messaged Susan myself and told her to please stop talking about me to my Brian and to please keep what he told her to herself. I was very calm and respectful in my message, which she ignored. Oh my God. Brian also messaged her saying that he overshared and should not have told her information of that nature about me to her. She responded to Brian telling him that she didn't really care about how I was feeling and had bigger and better things to worry about. And that was that. Oh my God. Okay. I can't help but feel extremely hurt by this interaction.

36:52I have expressed how I feel with Brian and just feel like this friendship is inappropriate. He agreed. It doesn't even sound like a friendship. Like literally, what are we hanging on for? He doesn't sound very nice. I thought we fell out. Yeah, I don't know what we're chatting about. No. He agreed and said how he feels a friendship has expired. Well, why did you tell her all that business about myself? Yeah, you're not making sense. You're going back on yourself constantly like, and that she's never there for him. he even went as far to say that she wouldn't be invited to our wedding well why are you why are you telling her my deepest darkest secrets however brian will simply not cut this girl out of his life he keeps telling me he needs time to think to which i said then it's her or me so he keeps telling me he needs time to think so are you guys kind of in relationship crises it sounds like it because like i need to think he's time to think he's not being himself you're not feeling good he's turning to her it's getting very messy oh my god no sorry i thought i read something i oh my god am i wait sorry i'm really trying not to read ahead but something mental is about to happen i later found out that the boyfriend that susan was with the night of the gig is no longer with susan because you guessed it she cheated on him according to my brian she has a reputation of cheating on boys this is not someone i would genuinely want to be friends with nor my partner i really hope you can help because honestly i don't know what to do with the situation anymore i'm aware that susan may listen to this podcast oh no we're in enemy enemy territory this is not good we are now in the middle of this mess oh no um as she's also a fan therefore the only thing i can't fault her on is her podcast taste cheers ladies cheers for that love you both let's unite do you know what let's bring the girls together do you know what we're gonna sort this out I think it's miscommunication on both ends unless unfortunately Susan sorry I was chatting about you earlier saying you might be in love with Brian but you might be and also like what was that gig that you had could you tell us yeah I'd love to know but maybe maybe Susan chatting to you now directly because I know you're listening maybe you cheat on these other guys because you are in love with Brian Brian, maybe it's a thing.

39:11Maybe you do have a soft spot for him feelings. Sophia, is that too crazy for me to say? Kind of scared to talk to Susan. Susan, thanks for you to be here today. Would you like to see some pics? Yeah, go on. She said, pic is attached of me and Brian and one of Susan because I know you love them. That's lovely. Lovely to get a visual. Okay, thanks, ladies. So this is the happy couple. Oh, gorgeous. Oh, gorgeous. Brian looks friendly. Really friendly, actually. Yeah, he does. And you look gorgeous, Sarah. Gorgeous. I love the black and white. And here's Susan. oh yeah she's a presenter yeah it's giving uh yeah yeah it's giving presenter yeah gorgeous Susan okay gorgeous okay gorgeous girlies do we just need to have a chat once and for all I feel like we've never even really tried to speak properly but I guess Susan doesn't want to I don't understand why Susan was really cold with you on your first meet because it all started very strong yeah you know like brian was like susan's got gig tickets it might be her gig it might not be we'll find out on the night um let's go we're gonna meet we're gonna hang out the four of us you know susan's boyfriend like it all started really really strong and also susan's friends were also there like there was a real potential for a real fun night out there but it seemed to be that she had no interest in building a friendship with you no interest in getting to know you she didn't want to give you the time of day so that to me says what are the reasons for that there number one she loves brian that to me says that number two is there any other reason brian to have a girlfriend she likes when brian's single she doesn't yeah she wants him maybe she feels like she loses brian yeah when he's in a relationship yeah you know and she likes to kind of have him for herself even though you've got a boyfriend yeah i don't i really don't like the fact that i mean susan like put susan to the side i really don't like the fact that your boyfriend told all your business to a girl who he knows that you don't like and didn't get on well with not even don't like like she wasn't don't even know yeah and like we don't even have a she doesn't even know anything about our relationship for you to then divulge information about me and what i'm going through right now that's a real but then also really weird for then what I'm just getting a bit confused I'm getting really confused because why would Susan not reply to Sarah's message when she said I just appreciate if you didn't let anyone know about that because why wouldn't she just reply like maybe there's some jealousy there or do you think Brian has lied and made up some fabrications and kind of painting Sarah in a bad light so she's kind of like I've got no time as a for you like you've done the X, Y and Z to Brian possibly yeah you know or maybe it's been twisted in a way that yeah you've done something Sarah to Brian yeah potentially She didn't like you from the get-go.

42:02True. But yeah, Brian might have twisted some things. I don't know. I don't know. To try and make himself look like the angel in whatever the situation is. Like, is it marital issues or was it something personal? I guess we don't know. Or like, Susan, I'm really sorry, but like, is Susan jealous of Sarah? Because like Sarah's with Brian. Yeah, she wants Brian. And maybe like she sees qualities in you that she wishes she had or she thinks she lacks or whatever. Like maybe she's comparing herself to you and comparison is a thief of joy. Like, I don't know. And then the only way she can try and knock you down a few pegs is by ignoring you and making you feel small.

42:40Yeah, and being like, well, I'm friends with your boyfriend. Like we've been together long. It's that classic thing of like, well, you know, I've known him longer than you have. And like, you might be his girlfriend, but like we go way back. I know his mom and we just have a really strong relationship. He knows me and I know him. Yeah we're just really close I know him inside and out So it's a bit strange I wonder if they've slept together I mean she didn't say I wouldn't put it past I wouldn't put it past Would you when they were younger at high school I wouldn't put it past You know it's because Why is he not mates with his mate Anymore who she was with It's kind of giving She cheated on his mate Whenever they broke up And then they slept together And then that's why he's not friends with this guy anymore That's why yeah And why they've now formed such a bond.

43:29Because they share a secret. Because they share sexual compatibility. Anyway, right. Okay, so Sarah and Susan is watching. This is a message to both of them. Take it away.

43:45I think this man is... You know what, it's kind of hard because we don't know what this issue that was shared was. Yes. but I also just think like maybe this man is not for you yeah you don't want a man who's just telling your secrets to women who you've expressed you don't have a relationship with and don't intend to like that's a very big red flag in itself and in general like telling anyone in general like something that's very personal to you even if he told his best mate you'd be like oh I didn't really want him to know that you know yeah like you don't take information outside of the relationship like I do appreciate that he does need to talk to someone about it but not the girl who you don't like it's really weird yeah I would listen to your gut I would think what does your gut tell you oh we need to remember one thing he said I need to think about this I need to think about this and you said well her or me and he's still oh I need to think about this okay well you've chosen her then chosen yeah really if you don't know then it's not me yeah exactly you want someone that wants you without a doubt.

44:50You don't want someone who's like umming and ahhing between uh, uh, uh, uh. Like I think this friendship between them is a bit strange. They have a special bond that I think, you know, they should go and be together happily. Sounds like they should probably be together. I think they should, truly, I do. She's never liked you. And like, fair enough, like you don't have to get on with everyone in life, but she didn't even make an attempt. I just think like this relationship is bringing a lot of stress into your life and you don't want to feel in any scenario that your boyfriend's not on your side and it kind of feels, you don't really feel like, I don't know.

45:23It just doesn't seem right. That she's not going anywhere and unless you want to sign up for a life with both of them, like get out of there, I would say. Anyway, he's not even chosen you over her anyway. So that tells you everything. Him saying, I need space, I need to think about it. It was enough. Like you're actually like, you didn't want to distance yourself from this girl anyway. I think he was just bullshitting I think they're both in love with each other go and be happy together Susan I guess you should go mess with Brian I mean Susan I'm happy for you hopefully this is your fairytale ending and all the game playing can stop and all the cheating can stop Susan and we can go and be happy with Brian in time and release Sarah from this situation of turmoil good luck ladies happy lives ladies thanks for listening both of you Yeah, we appreciate you both.

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47:40okay dilemma number three what do we have here do i tell oh my god this is really concerning oh god you're not gonna like this really do i tell my friend her dad made a move on me we're not going to enjoy this one i mean never do you what's their relationship like already is it already turbulent if so yeah this is just another thing he's done we've got a lot of paragraphs to get through or is he like this great guy you know who's like innocent and everyone loves him and it's like what david would do that surely not surely you know what i mean okay never thought i'd be writing in but here we are buckle up it's juicy.

48:28Wonderful. I met my friend Susan when we were at uni and we quickly formed a sister-like friendship. Sleeping over each other's houses most nights, crying to each other about boys, doing all nighters in the library, going out, staying in. You get the gist. We did everything together. Fast forward to graduation. I'm 24 and I land a grad job. Since I'm originally from way up north, Susan kindly offers to let me stay at her beautiful family home so I can commute in while I found myself a flat share. Let's give in salt burn. Her lovely mum welcomed me with open arms and during the short time I stayed, she treated me like one of her own.

49:05Cooking for me, ironing my clothes, drove me to the station every morning. Wow. And insisting it was no bother. I think I'll stay. She was happy to do it. What's for tea tonight? Shepherd's pie. Oh, delicious. Just a lovely, lovely lady. Her dad was a very different character. Oh, okay. A high-flying, alpha, finance bro-type man. He kind of tried and had banter with me, making the odd joke in the way middle-aged men do. But other than that, we didn't really speak or cross paths much in the house. Fine. Okay, fine. You know, you're not expecting... Yeah, we don't need to bond. We're not much in common.

49:48I remember when I went to that French exchange and the dad was there and I was like, well, I'm not looking at you or even speaking to you. Because that's weird. I'm just here with the mum and the girl. Like, you're at the table, but I'm not chatting to you. We're not forming a bond here. During this day, there were a couple isolated instances that on reflection were a little strange, but nothing I thought too much of at the time. At a family event I attended, he hugged me on arrival and whispered in my ear that I looked beautiful. Okay. Okay. You look beautiful. Yeah, okay. yeah okay if it's gonna get worse in another instance when i was moving out he was helping me take my cases to the car and he said i can't believe you're leaving us sarah when am i gonna see you again i think that's okay okay yeah i was i was expecting something like which i just awkwardly laughed off he would also frequently offer me money saying um are you all good finance wise you need extra money well well if you're offering there's actually quite a few things i've i'm after which i just took to him being extra generous giving that i was a recent grad but i now look at it as him flashing his cash in some attempt to show off and assert himself as a provider okay yeah or maybe even bribe me in some way as i say i didn't think anything of it at the time but looking back it doesn't seem so innocent especially given that all these instances happened out of earshot of everyone else right so you're now realizing actually you had a lot of ulterior motives here to try and potentially whatever yeah but this is where it gets really strange once i'd found a flat and moved out of susan's family home susan's mom was texting me that she missed me.

51:45The house was quiet without me and there was no trace of my dental retainer that I could, and that there was no trace of my retainer that I couldn't find when I was leaving and she promised she'd search for it. I said, no worries and thanks for looking. I forgot all about it. The following day, however, I got a text from an unknown number saying, hi, Sarah, just checked and can't find the retainer. How's the job going? Then signed it off with his name. I thought it was strange since I'd already cleared this up with her mum so there was no real need for him to go go out of his way to contact me we had a few back and forth where i politely responded to his questions and asked how the family cat was after his leg up oh hope the cat's okay it did it did strike me as strange that i was having this little text exchange with my best friend's dad but in my head i was thinking this surely has to be completely innocent and there's no way yeah i mean it sounds like to me that does sound quite innocent like Like, you could look at it as your best friend's dad.

52:47Like, the mum's kind of seeing you as a daughter. She's looking after you. He's kind of seeing you as the same. Yeah, and he's just checking, oh, how's the job going? You know, but then if you look at it in the way, it's like, oh, you're trying to chat to me over text. You can look at it both ways, can't you? You know, you're trying to go out your way to form some sort of separate, yeah. But generally, yeah, that is innocent. Yeah, obviously. When am I going to see you again? like if you've been living at their house you're doing good for money do you need any honestly if you ever need any help i'm here yeah but if he's not saying in that kind of like way we are yeah and if he's not doing it in front of everyone it's like oh why are you when things are out of earshot to everyone else it's like are you just trying to be like a friendly dad figure like i'm sure you probably chat to your daughter like this and you're kind of putting me in the same bracket but then on reflection you're thinking was that weird okay let's keep going it must get weirder but right okay yeah here we go here we go but then to my heart it's like we had those interactions with that one man who was getting really weird with us come around we all cook you dinner yes like man even when i'm sure that man i'm sure that man messaged me again really so we worked with this man yes he did and then it was he deleted it really yeah like we worked with this man for a few years on the 14th of feb yes it was valentine's day what do you mean this year yes saying what?

54:10don't know this message was deleted I got a text Sophia that's not good I forgot about that did you not see any of the contents of the message? it was just at the top of my WhatsApp message deleted Valentine's Day I was like that's weird no I don't like that anyway we worked with this man for a few years right? yeah but not consistently no but like on something else yeah and then he did progressively get weirder and weirder with us and and like inviting us over for him to cook us a meal like shit and it's like no why would we do that we're not gonna do that like no also like you're really old yeah like you're like no like but also like we have a really a working relationship not yeah and like other weird things let your kids yeah like other weird but in like a really weird weird and that's so weird like we've know it's been years now okay but then to my horror yeah this is horror oh this is getting this is real horror okay i'm now picturing it's that guy we yeah you know okay yeah initially i was like oh this sounds like kind of normal dad vibes but it really changes.

55:33But at first that guy was giving normal dad vibes. Like we actually know the type now. He dropped into the conversation that his wife and kids were out of town for the weekend and the house was lonely. So why don't I come on over and let him wine and dine me? It just got weird. Yeah. Okay. No. Yeah. Okay. And you're also thinking, bingo, I fucking knew that was weird. Yeah. Like I knew that All that now seems really off. I was questioning it at the time, but I thought, no, that's okay. Like maybe you're just a friendly man, but now you're actually a weirdo. No, I'm not hanging out with you without your wife or my best friend.

56:15What do you mean your wife and kids? You mean your wife and my best friend? Like, no, yeah, you mean my peer. Your wife who I have a close, lovely, loving relationship with and my best friend. Yeah, what are you on about? My jaw was on the floor. I tried to reason with myself and not jump to conclusions. Perhaps he was just being friendly and wanted to catch up. But after stewing over all possible interpretations of the message. Invite Paul your mate round and have a beer. And go and play golf. Yeah, go and play whatever you play. After stewing over all possible interpretations of the message in my head, I conclude that unfortunately there's absolutely no way that can be taken as anything else.

56:55Yeah, wine and dine is mental. Wine and dine means like that's like dating territory wine and dine that's not like that is very purposeful language wine and dine needless to say and also the fact that the house is lonely like no no like this is no i don't like this now needless to say i was stumped as to how to handle this or what if anything i should respond but eventually hours later i sent back a carefully constructed message saying that i was busy this weekend but that it would be lovely to see both him and his wife together once she gets back i think he got the message as i haven't received another one since okay my moral dilemma is this do i tell susan right oh god there's a risk of splitting up her family you know if we really take this seriously and certainly my connection to them i'm probably going to be ruining my friendship with her after all the woman always seems to cop the blame somehow or do I take this to the grave?

58:00You know, nothing really happened. I was never chatty with him when I was staying in the house. In fact, I was quite shy around him. So there's no way, you know, I was giving any sort of signal. The fact he thought there was even a chance I was actually going to say yes is so bizarre. This man is clearly doing this with many, many women. If I was her, I would want to know. because also just quickly do you realize how normal for you this has to be and for how like confident you've got to be in like having affairs for you to approach your daughter's best friend and think that it's going to you're so deluded because you've been getting away with this for so long and you've been doing this so easily and so effortlessly he thinks that this is the perfect set up for him that this is gonna work he's so deluded that he thinks you're gonna be popping round with susan your busy mate and sneak off into the fucking garage and have sex with him while his wife and your best friend like he's so deluded he thinks that that's gonna happen genuinely he thinks he thinks that's what's gonna happen yeah he does right okay so sarah here is saying she would want to know if i was her i don't know But if I was Susan, maybe I wouldn't want this to come to light and blow up my family.

59:25Susan is my best friend. And now I feel like I'm keeping this dirty secret. I hate that he's put me in this position. Please help. All my love are scrambled Sarah. Do you think he feels embarrassed? This is the mom. This is her and the mom. Mom's gorgeous. She looks about 20 years old. Oh my God. This is the girls. Oh, the girls. This is him.

59:55he thinks he looks young enough to like be with a 20 year old 100 % he thinks he's 25 yeah and he thinks 25 year olds thinks he's fit yeah he someone must have told him that once and he's ran with that and that's why he thinks he can pursue 20 year old women seriously right okay so we've got wedding coming this is complicated i wouldn't even my gut instinct would just be to like screenshot the text from the dad send it to your best mate being like laughing at it laughing at it like oh you guys miss being like your dad needs some new mates like your parents love me like being like oh laughing about it so you're not the one insinuating this is weird your dad's weird and then it's like you have the facts yeah she can read the text and be like haha wine and dine and then she could interpret that as why that's a bit fucking weird dad why did you say the mom have you seen what that was really weird don't speak to my friends like that that's weird like and then they can have their own family discussion dad that's really embarrassing like don't speak to my friends like that she might not even see it in that in that like and then the dad's been signaled that yes we i've told her about this yeah like this is not your dirty little secret our dirty little secret that you think is gonna happen like i'm letting like i love my best friend and your wife and i'm like i'm gonna let them know yeah so you're not being like can i sit you down yeah i think your dad's fucking weird like yeah yeah i would just send it and maybe just screenshot and say i forgot to show you this how funny how you will miss me so much child yeah yes something like maybe just go easy like how's the fam like miss them god they miss me look at this i ever tell you this your dad sent me this text screenshot i'd be like haha i'm your long lost sister yeah something like that and just like let her run with it yeah that's smart sofia's got it otherwise i don't really know it's going to be very bold of you to go in your dad's making accusations making accusations and making accusations when really we don't have that much hard evidence of him cheating or being like yeah yes the text was weird but it's not like hard evidence of like your dad's a fucking you know yes sofia's got it good luck sarah yeah well let's bring it back round we've got to start of the week i'd love that something we need that after that um absolutely you know we're thinking about affairs and all sorts of high girls i want to nominate my boyfriend now fiance congratulations of the week he planned the most thoughtful beautiful engagement by recreating our very first date we went to St.

1:02:48Augustine Florida to celebrate our two-year anniversary and he took me down near the water then he pulled out a box with a ring and asked me to marry him oh wait there's pictures wait I forgot to tell you yeah I saw a proposal in Rome at the Vatican at the weekend at the Vatican oh our father who are in heaven and everyone was cheering very nice oh with the Pope they were there with their group of friends oh it was really sweet everyone just started shouting i was like that was such a nice little religious spot for that yeah it was really with jesus in attendance yeah it was lovely his best friend was hiding secretly capturing the entire moment then he told me to look into the distance i saw people running towards him and suddenly i recognized them he had planned for our whole family to be there oh my goodness he coordinated every single detail recreated the exact moment our story began and somehow brought the people we love most to witness the moment our future started i have never this is written beautifully sarah stunning i have never been more surprised or felt more deeply loved and cared for in my life it was the most thoughtful intentional thing anyone has ever done for me wow i love love here they are in the moment on the bench at saint augustine oh saint augustine gorgeous here's the whole family everyone's delighted to be there and here's sarah grinning with her drink and her engagement ring oh congratulations sarah and she had a french so she was prepared oh what a classic she was prepared she knew what she was doing she was prepared oh beautiful so happy for you sarah congratulations that was a lovely story to end on well thank you for being here today everyone thank you so much for being here everyone if you would like a bonus episode you can get one every single monday over on patreon we have two episodes a week.

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