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15 Sep 2026 · 1h 3m · 20 chapters

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Girl Talk: I can't believe I walked in on that...

In short

The hosts discuss “Girl Talk” dilemmas about betrayal and boundaries—first a best-friend flirting with the boyfriend situation, then a nightmare roommate story involving a sister who brings her boyfriend into their shared flat and repeatedly ignores cleanliness and personal space.

Guests

No guests are interviewed in this episode. The speakers are the hosts (Paige from Giggly Squad, plus co-hosts including Sarah and Shosh).

Key claims

  1. Best friend is “sister-like” but repeatedly crosses lines with the boyfriend, making the narrator feel disrespected and unsafe about moving in together.
  2. Sister-roommate is inconsiderate and effectively turns the narrator into the “living cleaner,” culminating in a traumatic incident where the sister gives her boyfriend oral sex on the shared sofa while the narrator is asleep.

Notable examples

  • At a house music event: the friend asks about the boyfriend’s tongue length and initiates sexual talk/close behavior.
  • In the flat: the narrator finds them with the door open, then must listen to sex afterward; the boyfriend also uses the narrator’s workspace and contributes nothing (no chores, money, or bins).

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Chapters

1:46

Awkward Family Encounter

Paige shares a surprising and awkward moment involving her sister.

“And there on our sofa with the door fully open is my own sister giving her boyfriend a hat.”
2:14

Dreaming of News Anchoring

The hosts discuss the potential of becoming news anchors and the challenges involved.

“And I think we could do that quite well.”
4:20

The Future of Daytime TV

A discussion on various daytime TV shows, including Lorraine and X Factor rumors.

“If I was ever sick, day off school, it was like, right, daytime TV, here we go.”
7:40

Game Show Nostalgia

The hosts reminisce about popular game shows like Deal or No Deal, and their rules.

“Yeah, I just thought it stressed me out, I think, because I thought, they're getting you.”
14:01

Fun Facts and Light Discussion

Learn quirky facts and engage in light-hearted banter.

“Yeah, I thought handbags were handbags and I thought...”
16:16

Disclaimer and Episode Introduction

Understanding the lighthearted nature of the show and its purpose.

“Just before we get into it, quick disclaimer.”
16:43

Dilemma Introduction: Friend Flirting with Boyfriend

A listener shares her concerns about a friend flirting with her boyfriend.

“My best friend keeps flirting with my boyfriend.”
18:54

Deep Dive into the Dilemma

Exploration of the complexities in relationships involving friends and partners.

24:29

Analyzing Trust and Friendship Dynamics

Discussion about trust issues in friendships and boundaries with partners.

“And if I don't speak to her about this, how can I get over it?”
28:00

Navigating Friendships and Boyfriends

Learn about the complexities of friendships and boundaries when boyfriends are involved.

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31:08

Living with a Sister: The Good and The Bad

Explore the dynamics of living with siblings and the challenges that arise.

“Like we've lived in other places, I am assuming before.”
33:18

Messy Roommates and Their Impact

Understand the stress caused by a messy roommate and how it affects living situations.

“My sister and I have never had the stereotypical best friends sister relationship.”
36:30

The Incident: A Shocking Discovery

Hear the traumatic story of a surprising encounter with a sibling and their partner.

“generally how it goes also like she knows you're gonna do it yeah which is a bad like you almost have to like play our own game and leave it but then it's like it's your home and it's like you You can't.”
42:01

Navigating Roommate Challenges

Learn about the struggles of living with a messy roommate and the impact it has on personal relationships.

“And his fucking boxers, his pooey stained boxers are like here too.”
44:31

Confronting Disrespectful Behavior

Explore strategies for confronting disrespectful living conditions and setting boundaries with roommates.

50:09

Family Dynamics and Relationship Struggles

Discuss the complexities of family dynamics and relationship challenges when family members are involved.

“I'm going to tell them I always hear you having sex.”
56:01

Navigating Family Dynamics in Relationships

Learn about dealing with discomfort around a partner's family and the impact of family opinions on relationships.

“Yeah, I'm now concerned on what he's saying.”
58:53

The Pressure of Family Approval

Explore the pressures of seeking family approval in a relationship and its emotional toll.

“It's his job to go above and beyond to fix it and make you feel really comfortable.”
1:01:25

Reassessing Relationship Stability

Discuss the importance of reassessing relationship stability and addressing underlying issues.

1:04:21

Celebrating Personal Achievements

Hear a heartfelt story of celebrating a partner's positive actions during pregnancy.

“Be the only Garth in the world, do you know what I mean?”
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1:37Plug in a Zeevo flying insect trap so you can work smarter, not harder, and actually enjoy your time at home. I walked into the kitchen, the communal area. No, no, no. And there on our sofa with the door fully open is my own sister giving her boyfriend a hat. No! No, no, no, no. Sarah, move out. I swear to God, move out. Say, mum, you're gonna have to help with my rent. I'm moving out. You never guess what I've just seen Stacey doing.

2:14Good morning, Baltimore. Good morning, Britain. How is everyone? Good we are. Good morning, Britain. Welcome to the show. I think we could be good news anchors. I would really enjoy that. I think we could lock in for that. And I think we could do that quite well. If I get my reading up, my speed up, and just like, because you can't stumble. It's about - The auto cue. It's about like - Do you ever do the auto cue things on TikTok? Sometimes. Yeah. Today in Louisiana, we are experiencing extreme winds and tornado threats. Sometimes the auto cue is like too slow. And it's like, slow it down. Sometimes it's too quick.

2:48You have to rhythm it right with your body language and just your breath work. It's a real skill. Yeah, and the tone of voice. A real skill. Yeah, I think we'd enjoy being news anchors. I think so too. The weather, that is a whole different skill. I just wouldn't enjoy the early mornings of it all. Because it's like, we've got to be on air at six, meaning I've got to wake up at four to get to the studio for five. Yes. So then get ready and prepare. That also is your whole life, because then you're cutting your day short to go to bed early. You can't ever go out at night because I've got to be up for the news.

3:14Yeah. I am the news, honey. This space, this is the news. You guys get your news because of me. Yeah. While I'm the new attorney, I've got to go and make sure I'm there. Maybe like just a nice mid-morning talk show. Like maybe like the 10.30 slot. I think Lorraine's got it quite nice. Yeah, Lorraine's got it good. Luzerman's got it good too. I've heard, yes, because they're at midday. I've heard rumblings that they want to cut Lorraine. What? Yeah. That is like Lorraine. Is that your intel for rumblings? Yeah, listen, I'm in the industry, obviously. I get a lot of intel from the industry. Back of house at BBC.

3:42Wait, it's not. Is it BBC? It's ITV. It's ITV. Yeah. But yeah, I've heard some rumblings

3:50Didn't she used to have like an hour long show? I believe so, yeah. It's like half an hour now. They're like cutting her out. They're like trying to get rid of her. Yeah. No. She is an icon of television. Don't quote me on the facts, but like they've slashed her time. She's pissed. That's why she's always on holiday. She's getting Rylan in or whoever else. Wow. Yeah, she's pissed. That's not cool. No, because like Lorraine is the icon. Like it's the Lorraine show. It's Lorraine. Yeah. The show's called Lorraine. But yeah, axing her time. That's fucked. How am I? Imagine how that would feel. You've got no control.

4:19Like that's her whole show Her whole livelihood Yeah But yeah mum told me Yeah they're slashing her times And she's pissed And she knows Lorraine well And she is pissed Yeah Wow Imagine that though That's just TV honey That's just the name of the game That's just TV That's just Hollywood honey Yeah we know it well We're all about that Hollywood life Absolutely Yeah Imagine that Yeah that's gonna hurt So the show's being cut half an hour Yeah Yeah what What Well my fee better be the same Do you know what I mean But no we're slashing your fee It's less time Yeah But think like, who's tuning into Lorraine?

4:50I mean, I would. If I had Freeview, which I don't. Me neither. I would tune in. Me too. On like a weekday. Yeah. I'd put Good Morning Britain on. I'd put Lorraine on. I would put Lula Lula Lula. If I was ever sick, day off school, it was like, right, daytime TV, here we go. Yeah. This morning, Lorraine. Jeremy Kyle reruns. Yeah, Jeremy Kyle reruns the good times. Yeah, the good old days. And then Deal or No Deal at 4pm. That was my life. Deal or No Deal. I never really watched Deal or No Deal. I never understood the rules of deal or no deal with the, I never understood what was going on. It's a whole thing.

5:22You know, they all like live in a hotel, like all together and it's like this whole group thing. I literally don't know what the game is. I just know that they lift those things and it's like, boom. Yeah, but it's like, it's like they don't know what's in the box. They're trying to win money. So there's all these boxes. They don't know which one. Do they only get to pick one box or something? So like they pick a box and it's like that, that number is eliminated. You cannot win that. Oh, I thought that was what you won. No, on the board, you want to get rid of the lowest numbers. Like you want to get rid of 1P and you want to get rid of 10 pounds.

5:51Because it's all about being strategic on what box it's going to have that big jackpot in. But how do you know? It's a guess. It's a guess. So like at the end of it, so you've picked all your boxes. At the end of it, there could be three boxes left, three boxes. You only get one box to take home. Yes. But you get to open them and kind of deduct, right? So at the end of it, this is good. Right. There's three boxes left. Okay. So it's like, it's number five, number seven and number 13. yeah right and on the board it shows you what what money's money's left so there's a one p on the board but there's also 150 grand but then there's also a 2 000 pounds so you're like trying to get out that one p because you're like but there's that big jackpot but it's just a gamble it's all a gamble wow i should have watched it it's actually so good like you're on the edge of your seat that is so good and then some people it's like between two like maybe it's 50 grand and like a thousand pounds and you're like please and then it's and then it's like boom and it's like oh they eliminated 50 grand it's like fuck yeah that's so shit yeah and it's just like also they've been on this show for weeks because it's like this the whole cast they all live together and then it's like when it's what do you mean they're just it's all like camaraderie like they're all they're all like isolated what the people lifting the boxes yeah they're all the people who are there next to compete.

7:08Oh, I thought it was just like random. So then like they're all so, like Derek made this money, like, you know, it's like we've been with him for weeks. Like he deserves this, Derek. Is that necessary to be living together for weeks? Well, I don't know, weeks or like a week. I don't know. But it's like, then it's like, oh, it's like they all love him and like whoever's on. I didn't realize I had that personal touch. And then it's like, oh my God, it's Helen's turn this week. Helen. I didn't know I had this personal energy to it. Yeah, so it's like even more intense. Oh, I'm going to watch that.

7:34Well, I don't have free view, so I can't. Well, you could on Channel 4. On 4OD. On 4OD, yeah. But yeah, I mean, great TV. I always liked The Chase. I never liked The Chase. I liked The Chase. I liked the questions and the answers. It was too brainy for me. Yeah, I quite enjoyed it. Yeah, I just thought it stressed me out, I think, because I thought, they're getting you. They're going to get you. Yeah, hurry. I couldn't relax. I was like, they're obviously going to get it. What were the other game shows that we used to watch? That's a good question. What were the game shows? Well, I liked that word one and the numbers one.

8:04What was that one? the word one so I would watch that before Deal or No Deal my favourite is this what you were thinking of catchphrase no I love catchphrase I'm also really good at catchphrase wasn't that that American show no that's that Steve guy whatever he's called Steve Harvey no it's not Steve Harvey yeah and he's like it's like ice cream vanilla maple sea salt who does that no Stephen Mulhern yeah oh Mr. Mulhern it's like say what you see say what you see say what you see I've never watched that and it's like I see an apple falling not far from the tree woo what the fuck I see an apple falling not far from the tree say what you see no I'm thinking of Steve I fucking love catchphrase I would love to go on catchphrase I'm thinking of Steve Harvey and when they're like this who's Steve ice cream oh oh oh name names beginning with a J yeah yeah yeah Josh that guy went um Jose

9:02name fruits beginning with a P. Pineapple. Banana. Peach. Strawberry. Oh, fuck. Yeah. That's like family feud. That's like the American family feud. Is it? Yeah, but we had on the UK family feud. Name desserts. Test daily. Ice cream. Let's do it. Let's do one. Yeah. Let's name desserts until, right. Okay. Ice cream. Bonacci pie. Tiramisu. Lemon tart. Treacle pie. Apple pie. Sorbet. I was going to say sorbet. And you're right. Chocolate. Chocolate lava cake. It's fucking hard that. Pussy pigs. Waffles. Crepes. Keen pie. Gosh, that shit's hard. It was actually hard. Imagine like all the cameras as well.

9:53No. And like the audience. And it's like mine's blank. And it's like it's to win money. Like, no. I also didn't mind point. No, wait, what was that one where it was like, We asked the crowd what the most popular survey says. Oh, yeah. Was that Test Aliens Husband? That's kind of like that one. Like, is archery on the board? Yeah. No. No. Like, what the fuck? I don't know. I think the new one is the 1 % Club. I know Fiona watches that Saturday night. She likes that. Saturday night? Oh, my God. They're bringing back X Factor every soon. What? They're bringing back X Factor, ITV. Obviously, ITV is obviously panic.

10:26They're slashing the rain. They don't know what to do. Stop it. They need their ratings up. Who's hosting? I'm not sure but I've just seen it's coming back oh my god is it gonna be how it was though well they have to they need to recreate that same alure otherwise it's not gonna work I always see old X Factor on TikTok and they need to get Sunita back and they need to get Louis Walsh Cheryl Cole please Cheryl as well dream cast for the panel Simon Cowell Cheryl Cole Louis he's a classic he's gotta be there I guess yeah remember when it was Mr. Gary Barlow yeah was that when he had to replace Simon for a while that's when it started to flop no offence Gary all the offence actually Sorry, Gary.

11:02Maybe Sunita. Yeah, actually. It's just got to be Cheryl. I was watching Cheryl. No, but they wouldn't bring Sunita back because her and Simon were having sex. Were they? Yeah. I thought they were old love interest. They were on and off for years and years. Sunita was always in love with Simon. I did know they had a fling, but I thought it was old news. So obviously he's happily married now. He has to respect his wife's child. And Eric. Yeah. He's happily married with Eric. With Eric. Okay. Should we die? Yeah, let's die. What is the question of the week? I'm phoneless. Blueberry, where are you going?

11:31What are you doing around there? Blueberry's pissing. She's sniffing. You've got 45 minutes. Hold it in, girl. Pelvic floor exercises. Come on, I know you can hold it. You go all night. Oh, yeah. Yes, Anisha, that's great. Okay, of the week is... What's something you've just learned that everyone else knew? The rules of deal or no deal. I mean, wait, what was it? Yeah. Okay. Donkeys aren't baby horses. They're a completely different animal. Yes. I learned that ponies aren't baby horses. They're a different breed. I didn't know that. Wow. The more you know. I thought ponies were young horses. That hamsters are real and not just a cartoon.

12:15Wow. Shout out Henry. We'll never forget. Oh, sorry. He was a guinea. He was a guinea. That's offensive. Sorry. It's play it by ear, not play it by year. Fair? Yeah. Play it by ear. Why don't you play it by the year? We'll just play it by the ear. We'll just play it by the ear. What did you just say, Susan? Stripper poles rotate. Yes, I learned that in a couple of years ago. Oh, I think I learned that on Hustlers. Yeah, because it's like, they're just holding on. I always thought it was like, the hand is twisting. Come up here and sit up here. We still need to do a strip pole fitness. Pole fitness.

12:47Yeah, that's my dream. Me too. I won't be good though. Me neither. I can't even hold my own weight. You're not meant to be amazing straight away. You know? not all ducks are white you mustn't be from the uk then sarah because we have ducks in all shapes and sizes and colors ducks are a variety of breed raisins are dried grapes yeah yeah knocks me sick i knew that hate that that makes me love raisins yeah that knocks me in the red packet yeah yummy what's that brand called sun made or something like that sunflower sunflower yeah something like that a passport is called a passport because you're passing through different ports Wow Wow I never knew that Wow wow wow Carpenters don't fit carpet Right I knew that When I first listened to the pod I thought everyone's boyfriends were actually called Brian Easy mistake Easy mistake to make You just think wow what a coincidence Yeah this is so weird What a coincidence I've actually never met anyone called Brian That you're born with a womb Wow Not all submarines are yellow Yeah fair Yeah fair enough I always thought that handbags were ham bags Ham bags Right, I'm going to chuck it and you're going to catch it.

13:57I've got it. There's water right there. I've got it. Yeah. She's got it. Period. Period. Period. Yeah, I thought handbags were handbags and I thought... She's got a hand in her bag. Oh, I never knew this. I don't think you know this either. The space between your eyebrows has a name. Oh. Do you know what the name is? Absolutely. Just remind me. The glabella. Oh. Okay. I'm just going to whack my glabella. This is the glabella. This is the glabella. Interesting. Didn't need to know that. Swimming caps don't keep your hair dry. I learned that on TikTok the other day. What? That was the whole point.

14:35Yeah, no. The point is for the... But they tried to make us wear swimming caps at school. I could never get it on my head. The point is for the sanitary of the pool, I think. Oh. I thought it was just keep your hair dry. It's not for the point of the hair dry. It's the point for being streamlined when you're swimming. And the sanitary... You know, because when it's like no sun cream in the pool. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No hair down in the pool. Yeah, of course. Oh, wow. I never knew that. Yeah. Ambulance is spelt backwards so you can read it in your mirrors when driving. Wow. That's cool. I never clocked that.

15:05Wow. Wow. I'm learning a lot today. Prunes are plums. Oh, okay. I didn't know that either. I hate a prune. Oh, I did know this. This is a fascinating fact. Yeah. Babies can't drink water until they are six months old. How weird is that? Yeah, I did learn that. That is scary. How weird. But yeah, they need the milk. No water. Crazy. Snails grow their shells. Wow, that's beautiful. That's cool. That's lovely. That you're meant to wash rice. Yeah, I did know that. Yeah. That it's not illegal to have the lights on inside the car when driving. Yes, yes. Paprika is peppers. Oh. You can change your PIN number.

15:42I did know that. What do you mean? On your phone? On your cards. Oh, on your cards. You can change your PIN. Now you get given a PIN. Yes, yes, yes. Yes, because I changed one of my pins once. Yeah, I've never changed a pin. Wow, you're cool. Oh no, I have once. Yeah, I have once. I thought BIM men only worked one day a week. Yeah, you just see them one day a week. Classic. Wow, we've all learned something today. Lovely. Especially, shout out to the Clubella. The Clubella.

16:16Just before we get into it, quick disclaimer. We are not doctors. We are not professionals. We do not actually know what we are talking about. This is a lighthearted space. Okay. Don't take what we say literally because we could be wrong. Yeah. And if there's anything serious, if there's anything you feel like you're seriously struggling with, please contact a GP, a professional, because that is not us. We're just girls, girls and boys just like you, you know? We're just trying to get through life as well. Not professionals. Enjoy the episode.

16:43Shosh, go ahead and read the first dilemma for you whilst I've got your phone. Oh, yikes. Okay. It's girl talk. This is not good. Oh, no. Hulch, she said. My best friend keeps flirting with my boyfriend. Oh God. Yikes. This is a big yikes. This is a long one, honey. Because this is like, it's just scary. I think it's scary. It's weird. It's scary and weird and it's twisted and it's like, what is actually going on in your mind? Yeah, you're right. Okay. Because like, you don't want your friend's boyfriend to fancy you. That's the last thing you want. Yeah. You don't want them to - But some girls do.

17:17Yes, I know, but that's not right. And that's the problem. that's the problem but in a normal world you don't want yeah them to find you attractive it's a brother-sister relationship it's like it's like oh oh oh okay i love the podcast and just love both your ways of life wow thank you i'm also a bit of life thank you sarah recommendations severe thank you so much sarah i'm happy that you enjoy them you have the best style inspo wow it's compliment after compliment here today absolutely i feel like most people are nowadays I feel I love that neither of you are part of the party girl lifestyle back in the day we was Sarah back in the day shout out I feel like most people are nowadays and you just live your life to be happy without constant partying shout out don't do drugs yeah drugs abuse resistant education spread the word to the nation D to the A to the R to the E that's what I say that was a song we learnt in year 6 and it stuck with us and we never did drugs so shout out to dare the dare course shout out honestly really hit us hard at 11 years old yeah and we've never touched a thing actually did because like yes absolutely educate me scared the death out of me but I also like I was already scared like I'm never gonna do hard drugs no you're joking the cocaine's of it all no so honestly guys do dare well brush up on your books we were forced to I've still got my dare notebook I think have you?

18:36yeah I think mum's still got it really? yeah what was our teacher called Mr. O'Sullivan yes that was our police officer shout out so on to my dilemma yeah honestly i am so upset about this and i have no idea what to do at all i have been with my boyfriend for three and a half years and he is the perfect man and will be my husband someday how exciting gorgeous he's a golden retriever and lives to make me happy that is what we like to hear sarah he's doing his job i don't want you to lift a finger sarah if i'm being honest what what did you say i don't i don't want sarah to lift a finger what did you say you something about fingering get your ears checked honey i was like whoa what did you just say my best friend is an ex-roommate i had and we have been friends for around three years nice she feels like a sister to me and someone i just adore and we are usually on the same sort of wavelength she has just gotten out of a six-year relationship and her and my boyfriend have also known each other for the three years that i've been friends with her right yeah so she's just broken up with her boyfriend of six years and you're still with your boyfriend of three and a half years we used to be great couple friends you know as a foursome we would go out quite often double dates there has been one time in the past on a double date I felt she was a little too familiar I would say with my boyfriend while her boyfriend was there yeah to me it came across as flirty but I was a little annoyed at the time and that was that I got over it because you know she was with her boyfriend and maybe I was thinking yeah even when she did have a boyfriend she would flirt with guys on nights out and I do just think she thrives off of male attention right since being single this is even more so the case as it seems to be at the forefront of her mind i have been there for my friend as much as possible and i have said yes to every plan that i can even though i'm trying to save money as me and my boyfriend are moving in together in october nice i have been on the other end of the phone every time no matter what time of the night i've sat with her cried with her over the breakup celebrated every win gone to all the plans i'm generally just trying to show up as a best friend and do the bare minimum yeah i do feel like this is reciprocated but at times i feel as though her feelings and what she is going through is way more important than what i'm going through right skip to this past weekend me and my boyfriend love house music

20:51and a good music event my friend sarah has never been to one so she chose an event she wanted to go to and wanted to book it. For all of you? I think so. I said I'm up for it but my medium distance Brian is going to be at my house that weekend so I'm not sure if he will make it. She said no problem let's all go. Okay so she's saying like bring in like whatever like I want to experience the you know the earlier of the house music. I said okay we booked it and off. The vibes were good to start with and then Sarah turns to my Brian at the train station on the way there and says brian do you like my outfit what do you think of my outfit okay okay that's okay yeah obviously tone is important but like yeah you can say oh yeah what do you think of this jacket it's quite jazzy yeah yeah yeah he looks a bit stunned and says why do you care what i think of your outfit okay so maybe the tone so maybe the tone was like what do you think of my outfit yeah maybe you like this dress maybe you know maybe it was like kit sal corset yeah and he's a bit too sun oh whoa breasts boobies okay and she covers herself and says oh i just want your opinion as a man i can tell he feels a bit uncomfortable when i also say sarah i don't think his opinion really matters ha ha ha trying to play it off right so we've had a little orky pork on the way to the event eventually he says i think you both look very nice that's lovely my just a nice guy yeah i think you both look very nice but i've not looked too hard at either yeah yeah yeah yeah cut forward maybe an hour later we're at a bar she says oh my god take a photo of me and brian i'm like okay i take a couple and she make me take a photo after photo making me making me brian in the end says he wants some photos with me yeah and then he says to sarah don't you want some photos of you girls together yeah and we take some okay then randomly she turns to Brian and says, Brian, how long is your tongue?

22:45Oh God. He says, um, normal size. Well, it's extra long for you, Sarah. Sarah then sticks out her tongue, looks at him and says, I have a really long tongue. Oh. Then she asks me to stick out my tongue and says, oh, you have a really short tongue. Mine is really long. What is the fucking tongue competition? I'm not really sure about that. Okay. So she's just, she's on a different vibe. and you're feeling uncomfortable yeah the rest of the night i honestly feel so uncomfortable right she's bringing up kind of sexual topics shuffling closer to him every chance she can speaking a lot to him but barely to me i feel so angry and uncomfortable that i keep making excuses to have a minute to myself going to the toilet get some fresh air i'm just in a really bad mood i'm trying to have a couple shots yeah i have a good time i don't know how to get over this because i just feel so disrespected and betrayed this girl is meant to be like a sister to me and I understand she's craving male attention right now but why from my boyfriend?

23:43Yeah like we're also like we're out. There are men here. Yeah. Like let's go and find someone else. Go call them prosper. The fact that you're trying to seek validation from my boyfriend is beyond weird. She's also very short and has always been with short men in the past. She's short. Oh. I know. Okay. She's also very short. She keeps saying she wants a tall man six foot plus. My boyfriend is six foot two. right i'm so confused to this woman does this woman want my boyfriend right i'm unsure on if or how to bring this up because i don't want to make this a thing over our lives and i do want my brian and sarah to have a good normal relationship yeah i worry that when i move in with him i will feel uncomfortable with her coming over to stay for the weekend or really including her in our life as a couple very often so now you're trying to segregate them yeah yeah i have spoken to Brian about how hurt I am and he said he didn't notice that she was outright flirting but he said a couple comments she made did make him feel a bit uncomfortable I know my friend and I know when she is flirting and she 100 % was she is flirty with most men but I just don't accept the naturally flirty excuse because like you're not flirting with your dad like yeah you can control it also like I'm not fucking stupid like I know what you're doing you're a grown woman like You're right in front of my face.

25:01It's inappropriate. Please help. This is such a difficult time. And if I don't speak to her about this, how can I get over it? Or feel comfortable spending time as the three of us again? Brian and me. Sarah. Oh yeah, she is short. Short queen. Oh yeah, she is short. Okay. Gorgeous. She's like, I want a big daddy. Yeah, stunning. Wow, Sarah. You've got a handsome man on your arm there. Whoa, whoa, whoa. We were. Wow, whoa, we were. Yeah. Gorgeous couple. Actually stunning. Sarah, you look gorgeous. Everyone's gorgeous. Yeah. I mean, she's a mess right now. And I think this is like signs of like real mess.

25:37Because like who on earth is trying to like, that's weird. Yes. But maybe, hindsight's a beautiful thing. In hindsight, you should have called her out in the moment. Whoa, he's my man. What are you doing? Do you know what I mean? That's so weird though. I know, but a bit of playfulness. Like let her know, like I see what you're doing. Yeah. I'm clocking it. I'm clocking your tea. Yeah. And like, it's weird. And like, let's go. Fine, look. look all these other men yeah like let's go look around yeah i do think it's also slightly concerning that you will not have these feelings like the fact that you're like like not you don't obviously see her intentions as pure yes you're not you don't see her as like you're straight away like you're flirting with my man yeah like but also like she is you're not even making it up like like she is she is yes it's just interesting that it's like it's like this is really pissing me off like yes it's yeah you obviously don't trust her as a friend no well she did this while she had a boyfriend once before as well you've always kind of had your feelings about her yeah but you wrote it off as like she was she's got a boyfriend anyway like if you know whatever but now you're actually taking no bullshit and it is fucking weird bless you bless you it is weird and i yeah i wouldn't want her around my boyfriend either it's fucking weird like is she actually a friend to you i think we need her best friend she's like this is her but they used to live together like this is gonna this is best friend vibes well it's not at all it's scary this is like saboteur vibes yeah so that do is she gonna say should she say something and say look i know you're floating with my man on the weekend but they're like we're gonna destroy this relationship yeah i think if we're gonna say it we have to be prepared because once she gets called out she's like oh shit my i've been clocked now now i can never face you and like it's gonna be so awkward because it's like when she's been clocked well and she's not gonna admit to it no exactly she's gonna say no i wasn't exactly i'm gonna turn it back on you probably or she'll turn it on him be like well he you know he was like i make shit up about you you know he actually like said this to me yeah and like i thought we were just being like we're just having fun do you know what i mean yeah but this is really dangerous waters i think you just need to look at this like i think take the boyfriend out of it this we need to just look at our friendship as a whole because at the end of the day like you should never feel on any level that your friend your best friend whatever is flirting with your boyfriend no like you should never have any of that feeling so that is a huge problem so in our minds also like she's no friend right that's what this says to me like aren't you my best fucking weird like because this this is weird yeah so the fact that you would even want your boyfriend of your friend yeah to find you attractive or give you a call seeking anything from him or like wanting to turn his head from your friend onto you it's it's really weird and fucked so i think you just need to look at the friendship a bit more and be like okay we've been friends for three years what does this relationship actually look like now do i trust you do i value you like what is going on here because i think it's weird because the fact that you can't go out and trust that she's not going to be weird with your boyfriend is that's not normal it's not normal no it's not normal at all like you want them to have a great relationship and be mates and like yeah you don't want to feel like having to watch what she says to him like that's just not no the vibes that you want that's not a friend no hey guys it's page from giggly squad Okay, can we all agree that hosting is so much fun?

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31:25Right, number two. My nightmare roommate is my big sister. have some respect for your elders Sarah yikes I'm joking this is a long one so apologies I mean listen I do think two sisters living together it can either go amazingly well or it's a horrid story yeah because I don't think me and Lydia could live together I don't think you could either no nor with Mariana no because it gets to a point where I was like thank god I didn't live to have with that evil Kremlin anymore do you know what I mean and it's like especially as adults like there are no bad like I just think it's like you don't have that like that friend respect do you know what I mean where it's like oh I respect her space it's like there's none of that when you're sisters it's a free for all it's a free for all and it's like yeah I can only imagine it now if it works I think it's beautiful if it works it's stunning because it's like family member we're blood this is family we're blood yeah we're blood but otherwise I think it's a free for all there's like no like boundaries or respect of things or the space and like yeah which all comes from like love but it's like not Yeah We can't function like this Yeah it comes from like Comfortability Yeah But like too comfortable Yeah And just like And knowing you can take advantage Because like I would know I could waltz into Lydia's room And fucking If I needed an outfit Take out whatever And fucking leave it in a state Yeah But like that's not respectful But she would also do that to me But you wouldn't do that to my room But I wouldn't do that to your room Exactly I wouldn't touch Sophia's shit Yeah Because I've got basic respect Right This is a long one So I apologise in advance It's me, 26, and my sister, 29.

33:01It's literally me and Lydia. Okay, it's adults, it's grown-ups. Yes. So like we're, like I'm 29. We're grown-ups. And she's 26. Yeah. Like we've lived in other places, I am assuming before. Yeah. This isn't our first rodeo of having roommates. Yeah. Like, you know. So we live together in a flat in Nottingham. Not shout out, she said. Shout out. Shout out, ladies. My sister and I have never had the stereotypical best friends sister relationship. You've never had it? Never. Okay. We've clashed pretty much our entire lives. But a couple of years ago, after a relationship breakdown, I decided I needed to move out of my previous home.

33:36My sister already lived in Nottingham City Centre. I worked in town. And financially, it made perfect sense for us to move in together and have our bills and half our bills. Nice. Oh, I wonder why she works. I know. Zara. I know. Great Zara. That's a great Zara. One of the best Zaras. Great Zara. One of the main bonuses, I thought, was that she works away a lot, Meaning I basically get to live alone most of the time That is a perk Yeah How naive was I? When she's away, life is bliss When she comes home, I feel like I'm living in a nightmare I'm very house proud I love a clean, tidy home And I genuinely find mess very stressful My sister, on the other hand, appears to believe That if you leave something long enough Eventually someone else will deal with it But she's the older one So that's interesting Is she?

34:25The messy sister's the older one Yeah she is Fuck Yeah Well she's thinking I've got a lot of responsibilities in my life The last thing I want to do is tidy my home If you're going to do it for me You're going to fucking do it for me Yeah She leaves pots in the sink for days Until they are basically developing their own ecosystem Oh my god Do you know what I saw on TikTok last night? Do you know our period blood can grow plants? What? Our period blood can grow plants Plants Plants Plants This lady put a droplet of her period blood In soil In water In soil yeah but you can i've seen women that they are putting on their plants outside oh this whole thing this lady she kind of makes sense it so makes sense we are mother nature so much nutrients we are mother nature we are healing we are everything they don't let the men find out do you know what i mean life into the world and life into the soil men find out and so she put some of her blood in this water she left it out like let the sun you know whatever full moons and stuff and literally this it grew a plant this beautiful plant apparently it was the first plant on earth of course in the water yes i thought plants needed soil seaweed that's in the water lily pads yes there's things in the water yes wow yes and when she grew that it was her period blood then i saw this other video did you sprinkle anything else on it nope it just just one ingredient just yeah one ingredient the blood then I saw this lady she had a full thing of water it was like her blood water she was pouring all her plants outside I've seen that I've seen that lady flourishing flourishing I'll have to give that a whirl I'm gonna put a droplet somewhere and see what happens definitely I'll have to wait I've just finished so I'm gonna have to wait a little bit we'll do some research but everyone's saying like don't let the men find out so fucking take away our periods do you know what I mean because we're so powerful anyway we're so we're so cool shout out ladies yeah let's bloom right so we've got messy older sister 29 yeah okay she's pots in the sinks yeah yeah that would stress me out too food's getting left out until like i've had enough and then i clean it yeah yeah yeah that's generally yeah that's generally how it goes also like she knows you're gonna do it yeah which is a bad like you almost have to like play our own game and leave it but then it's like it's your home and it's like you You can't.

36:42You can't. But it's like she will not learn her lesson until. The bins, I'm not convinced she has ever voluntarily taken one out in her life. I spent hours resetting the flat after she's been home, even if it's only been for a couple of days. We've had countless arguments about it. I've explained over and over again. I feel like she has absolutely no consideration for me, not just as her roommate, but as her little sister. And yet nothing changes. But then she got a boyfriend. Oh, God. Oh, God. No, no, no. What's happening now? Not a fucking man. Don't bring this boy in this flat. Go to his. Because he's going to be...

37:17Go to his. He's going to be a smelly ass man. No, go to his. He's 32, but has his own flat, but lives about 30 minutes away. You think this would be helpful because surely that means she would go to his sometimes. No. He is basically a permanent resident at our flat. No, no, no. That is not the rule. So now... That is not the rules. Yeah. So now on top of that, when my sister is here, he's also here oh this big man's here and he's contributing nothing not a penny not a chore not even a bin bag ugh waste of space waste of space wet lattice get out get out look I'm picking up his dirty socks off our sofa I'm cleaning their bathroom I'm washing their pots I'm taking out their rubbish I feel like I've accidentally became the living cleaner for a couple who don't even hire me oh no and it's affecting in my actual quality of life.

38:11Yeah, because you're picking after their fucking pigsty. Sarah, I'd be so wound up. I would be wound up so fucking tight. I'd be livid. I can't even express the feeling. I can't even express the feeling of a man basically moving into your space who you don't even know. No. Who isn't even considerate of you or respects you. No. It's not even like she's bought in this guy and oh, he's a clean freak. Oh, thank God. Thank God. Do you know what I mean? Because some men are. Yeah. She's actually bought in a fucking another tramp. Yeah. how are they going to live together just the two of them we'll be living in squalor they'll be living in squalor but they're thinking kerching kerching kerching we're coming back to this beautiful clean house fucking flat it's now affecting my quality of life I work from home two days a week our kitchen and living room are open plan and there's a table in the living room where I normally work when her boyfriend is here he uses that space so I have to work from my bedroom what I'm sat on my bed doing work go home you're 32 go to your job yeah trying to look yeah I'm sat in my bed doing work trying to look professional when of course I do not I've also been told I'm too loud when he's working so I can't make lunch because he's working oh shut up put yourself on mute go to a go out go to a coffee shop in fucking Nottingham like get out when I go to make dinner the kitchen is sometimes so disgusting that I genuinely just decide not to bother I'm essentially confined to my bedroom in my own home listen you're the big sister stand up she's the little sister yeah fucking stand up I'd say get this girl writing's the little sister oh shit yeah still stand up stand up fucking say we're gonna lay the law now sorry if this is getting out of fucking hands stay in front of him too I'm surprised he's not exploded you're disgusting me too your shit is everywhere yeah like this I pay half you don't sorry respectfully get out have a conversation with your sister and say he can be here yeah two nights a week but not anymore he can't work from here I work from home it's my priority this is my rent this is my home like he has a home yeah he should go to it He should go and work from his home.

40:10Yeah. Like, ew. Then came the incident. So this was like her final straw, I think. Oh my God, what was it? Oh my God, I feel sick. One night, my sister and her boyfriend had been out drinking. I'd gone to bed and woke up in the middle of the night because I wanted some water. Oh no. I walked into the kitchen, the communal area. No, no, no. And there on our sofa with the door fully open is my own sister giving her boyfriend a head. No! No, no, no. no Sarah move out I swear to god move out say mum you're gonna have to help with my rent I'm moving out you never guess what I've just seen Stacey doing no that's traumatizing that is trauma it actually is that cannot happen I think we couldn't speak for months after that that's fucking no fuck off oh no they found it hilarious yeah I bet they fucking did fucking weirdos I unfortunately did not and as if that wasn't enough I then had to spend the rest of the night listening to them have sex.

41:10No. Yeah, because now you're traumatized. You can't get back to sleep. No. And you're hearing all the fucking rumblings and the shufflings and the fucking noises and the fucking whatever. I'm still traumatized, she says. No. Honestly, if it had been a one-off situation in an otherwise respectful living arrangement, maybe I could have eventually laughed about it. Yeah. You're thinking, yeah, fair. Fair enough. But on top of everything else, no. Like you're having, you're giving him head on the dirty sofa where the dirty pops and the dirty pants on the fucking like his dirty fucking socks like it's all fucking dirty in it.

41:41No, no, no, no, no. And like his, what, is he sat with his bear bomb on my fucking sofa? I was about to ask the question, no. Like his skid marked fucking pooey like club bomb. No. Is sat like his spread eagle, his fucking butt cheeks on our fucking velvet sofa. No, no, no, no, no, no. Get the fuck out. Like where he's had two poos that day. You're 32 years old. Like he's showered in the morning. It's disgusting. No. It's actually just like. No, no, no. And his fucking boxers, his pooey stained boxers are like here too. So that combined with everything else, the mess, lack of consideration, having to hide in my bedroom.

42:19That's so disrespectful. Also, if you're going to have sex, have sex in your bedroom. Don't have sex on our shared mutual space. Disgusting. Disgusting. Like he stinks. Also, just get out. You're here all the fucking time. Leave. Go fucking get out. Go to his fucking flat. go away. I mean, his flat must be disgusting. It must be horrible. Of course they're coming here because it's somewhat clean when they're home because you've cleaned up, Sarah. Do you know what I mean? Like a boy's, like this is a dirty boy. So a dirty boy's flat is going to be, oh my fucking God. We're standing on business and we're putting the laws down.

42:57I think now it's like that end is, get out or get rid of him or like sort of, or pay for a cleaner, Sarah. Yeah. I'd respect that. If you're like, okay, look, I'm incapable. it's my fault I'm incapable of keeping things clean I'll make sure a cleaner is coming in twice a week to pick up to pick up for us both at least that's some consideration and like do you know what I mean some effort so I having to hide in my bedroom being unable to work comfortably clean cook relax in my own home I absolutely did not find this funny I also have a boyfriend 27 and I've started turning him down coming over during the during the time they're back because I'm genuinely embarrassed about the state of the flat he still lives with his parents and i don't have a car currently so it's hard to even escape to his yeah that's annoying i only let him come over when i know my sister is going to be away for a decent amount of time because i don't want to put him in the environment when they are home yeah i always joke um he should be brian of the week he listens to the pod now encourage me to write in oh brian because i've cried to him him about this multiple times and it's always so and he's always so supportive understanding and tries to give me advice on the situation we're also not in a position to buy a house together yet although our two-year plan genuinely cannot come quick enough okay so that end is kind of in sight you guys are obviously he's saving he's at home i eventually messaged my sister a very long paragraph explaining that she makes me feel like a cleaner and that i feel completely disregarded and i don't think she's showing me any consideration as great either a roommate or her little sister well done she apologized but of course nothing changed oh that just is like so do you know what that actually just annoys me even more because you're just blatantly disregarding my feelings I'm expressing to you which took a lot of courage by the way to send this paragraph and you're literally just like kicking me in the teeth she's taking advantage of you because you're her sister that's so rude that's what it is she's she's literally taking advantage she's like well she's not going anywhere she can't move out anyway it's tough shit like even more hurtful because it's like you're still doing it whilst knowing how I feel she's the older sister she thinks right yeah yeah so she thinks she's the queen we're gonna have to get mum involved yeah she thinks she's got the power and it's like it's like oh yeah i'm sorry nothing changes like in it like we need to get mum involved so i even opposed a two night a week boyfriend limit which she did agree okay that's something but as i'm writing this we are currently on day four of him being here my mum has now got involved but still nothing no mum do more mum come on step up so girls what do I do do I accept that living with my sister is simply never gonna work and start looking for somewhere else to live do I become even more strict with the boyfriend rule yeah do I hold it down for two years until me and my boyfriend oh two years no it's too long do I stop cleaning up after them and let the flat descend into complete biological warfare oh my god until they finally get the message i feel like they but like messy people that they're okay with living in their mess doesn't really bother them it doesn't really bother them no or do i just accept that i'm apparently the third wheel in my own home and pray that my lottery numbers come through so i can move out right i think this is intervention time i think like let's picture this was me and lydia i would like if this was me and lydia lydia had this bum ass boyfriend i lived with her it was squalor i was cleaning up after her it was affecting my work it was affecting my mental health it was affecting my days because i'm just cleaning i'm cleaning i'm cleaning it would be intervention time mom is in we're getting this boyfriend out look at the reality of this situation it's disgusting you need to wake the fuck up sister sister yeah sister honey you need to wake the fuck up i also think like okay you've sent your big paragraph she knows how you feel you've said it a few times and she's just like oh i'm really sorry you feel that way like I'll try and improve like nothing changes it's literally got to be in the moment if you wake up in the morning and all her shit from the night before wake her up and him knock knock knock knock knock knock guys come and clean the kitchen now please it's disgusting yeah like call them out wake up rise and shine I would also say to the boyfriend like oh so you're going home tonight then because you've been here for two nights and we've got two nights so you're going to go home tonight and also like respectfully like you left your socks on the sofa like it's disgusting I would call them out I'd be like I would almost embarrass him as well be like Like, Brian, you're fucking rank.

47:15Like, your stuff's all over the place. Like, this is really shit. Like, all your plates are here. Like, I would just call them out in the moment. Constantly. No more, like, tidying up, treading lightly. Don't be scared of them. Text messages. Be like, oh, Brian, so you're going home tonight then? We've got a two-night rule. Like, you've been here too long. I would also say to Brian, like, Brian, this is, I live here. You don't pay to live here. You aren't working in communal areas. Yeah, get the fuck out. Go to your fucking flat. You're going to have to work in Sarah's bedroom. or you can work in your own home.

47:44Like this is my home. I get fucking dips. I think we impose the rule that he doesn't work here at all. He can't work here. No. Okay, you stay the night twice a week then you fucking leave in the morning and you go to work. Yeah. You get out. I think you just need to be a bit more forceful and a bit more indirect in person. Look at his face, look at her face. And then like, you know, if you wake up in the morning, you're going to the gym, kitchen's mess. Send a picture of the kitchen. Yeah, yeah. Clean up your shit by the time I get back, please. And if it's not clean, hello. I can wake them the fuck up.

48:12Knock, knock, knock. You need to clean this up. Yeah. Get mum on FaceTime. Mum, look the fuck at this. Yeah, hello. This is what they do. Hello. This is what they do. Wake up, wake up. It's fucking disgusting. You're minging Brian, mate. I would honestly be a fucking pest. I would be a pest to them. Don't be scared of her. Because she'll be embarrassed. I would also like piss him off so much that he doesn't want to come around. I'd be so naggy. Yeah. I think you say to him. I would not shut up. You need to channel. You're 32. Yeah. You're 32. This is how you live. And this is how you fucking live.

48:42God forbid knows what the fuck your flat looks like. Yeah. You should probably go home and clean it. Brush your teeth as well. Like be fucking like. I would be the biggest. Embarrass the fuck out of him. Nag. So that he's like, I don't want to fucking go there. Her sister never stops nagging. Don't be scared of them just because they're older than you. Do you know what I mean? I think that's what they're using. They're using that like, we're the elders. Like we kind of, we run this flat. Like she's 26. I would fucking pest, pest, pest, pest. And embarrass her. Like take the pictures of the mess.

49:05Send it into the family group chat. Yeah. Show mom, show dad, show everyone. And then it's like, they're like, then they're embarrassed because it's not like their dirty little secret. It's like, everyone can see how you fucking live. Get him the fuck out. You know, tidy up after yourself, Sarah. Stop being so polite and so like, oh, I just really have my feelings. So I would say, try that for the next couple of months. Yeah. Standing on business, calling them out in the moment, embarrass them, airing their dirty lot. Like show her friends. Look how she leaves the - Yeah, it's gross. Like embarrass her.

49:32Then she'll like, then I think she'll wake up and say, oh my God, everyone's like kind of like finding out how fucking - And just like physically asking them to do stuff. Like I know you walk in and you're like, oh, this place is a fucking mess. Like they've obviously not done. Like I would just ask them like, Brian, can you come and clean the kitchen, please? What's he going to say? No. And if he says no, he'll be like, well, it's all your mess. And like, I want to work in here. So you need to clean this in the next half an hour, please. Otherwise, I actually physically say to them, can you come and do this?

49:58And hopefully then they're like, oh, fine. Don't just like leave it unsaid. Like call it out in the moment. And hopefully that should inflict some pain. some change yeah and then otherwise it's like mummy to help me out with some rent I'm moving out yeah unfortunately yeah because you can't go on like it's gonna affect your mental health and it's affecting your relationship because you can't bring your boyfriend around because you're embarrassed of the state they're leaving the flat and that's not fair because she gets to bring her boyfriend around whenever you know and like you equally deserve to have your boyfriend around and be like I'm gonna tell dad what I saw you doing on the sofa if you don't pick this up you got some blackmail there I would use it yeah like I'm gonna tell mum it's fucking disgusting Have some respect for your family.

50:37Yeah. Like seriously, simple respect. I'm going to tell them I always hear you having sex. That's disgusting. Even if I don't, I'm going to tell them that. That makes me sick. Yeah. Yeah. But call it out in the moment. Don't be afraid of her just because she's a big sister. I'd be a nag. But Lydia Maran, be afraid of me. Don't take that as you can not be afraid of me.

51:01Right. Last dilemma. This is savage. Hit me. My boyfriend's sister-in-law. My boyfriend's sister-in-law. How does that work? Oh, yeah, got it. Your boyfriend's... Stepsister. No, your boyfriend's got a brother who's married. Sister-in-law. Yes. Got it. Said she'd never bothered with me because she didn't think we'd last. Well, that's rude. I mean, who does she say that to? But also like... You, by the sounds of it. Yeah, that's fucking... Okay. Also, I've been here for 40 years. What do you mean? Yeah. And also like Respectfully like How can you judge that I didn't think you'd fucking last Yeah Here you are I didn't fuck I thought you two would get fucking divorced So like I'm surprised you're still here I'm surprised you're fucking still here Yeah Hey girls Love you both so much I've recently joined the group chat Which is full of my morning walks With so much laughter So thank you This can be on the normal pod Or the group chat Shout out Wednesday's episode So Would you be able to get over this Or would it completely change How you felt around his family I've never really felt like my boyfriend's sister-in-law has been that keen on me.

52:05Because also, side note, she's sharing that with everyone else. Well, I don't think they're going to last. So I'm not that bothered about that. Yeah. Like she's sharing that, I think, with like the other family members. It's known. Yeah. Since I joined the family, she's never really made much effort with me. It's like, I'm Pam. I'm the owner of this house. Yeah. Like here are you. Yeah. You're like the new girl on the block, you know, and she's like been in the family. Yeah. Well, it's like she thinks she's going to be saying that, you know, well, we had Helen last month and like we had Susan a couple of years ago.

52:31So we'll see about this one. Yeah, we'll see about you. Yeah, I'm married, so I'm here to stay. Yeah. Until there's a ring on your finger, honey. Yeah, I'm not going to go to coffee with you, honey. Yeah. She never made much effort with me since I joined the family. And I've always had this feeling that she just doesn't really like me. It's just such a shame because we're two women entering the family. Like, this should be a great relationship. It should be a lovely bonding. Our kids are going to be cousins. Yeah, this should be a lovely bonding thing. But it's like, what do you deem me not worthy that we're not going to last?

52:58I mean, sorry. but sometimes you you do just think oh they're not gonna last sometimes there's a sense so like maybe that there was something in her that was like well do you know what especially if he had had helen and susan combined it's like oh it's another helen and susan there is there is the other thought that like not to bad mouth your boyfriend not to think badly of him but like has he been chatting shit about you like to his brother and that's why she's got this sense that like oh he's not that bothered about this and in her mind she's like i don't want to form a friendship that's gonna have to inevitably end because he is saying all this stuff about you oh god now we're seeing on the other four i mean hopefully not but like that is something to consider yes because yeah if if if i knew if yeah if i had a brother ben and he's like oh yeah brother ben oh brother ben oh good brother ben and he you know was like oh yeah you're gonna meet this girl but like not that not let me know what you think yeah that kind of vibe i don't think she's the one but like she's great for you know what i mean then of course the girl's gonna be you're not gonna be going out of your way to yes my boyfriend has always said it's because she's so focused on her two boys who are three and five which i completely understand because obviously she's a busy mom we've been together for three years surely you can now make some effort with your brother-in-law's girlfriend okay anyway fast forward to march this year and me and my boyfriend went through quite a rough patch where he basically wanted to break up with me oh my god No, what do you mean?

54:23The timing of it made everything feel weirder because it happened after a weekend where we'd gone separately to see our families. So he'd spent the whole weekend with his family, including his sister. Okay. We eventually patched things up and afterwards he told me that during that weekend he told his family he wasn't happy in their relationship and that he felt under pressure about things like potentially moving closer to my family, et cetera, et cetera. That's a whole other story. Oh God. But finding that out made me feel so weird because his entire family knew we were having problems while I had no idea.

54:56Meanwhile, I'd been with my own family singing his praises and acting like everything was normal. Oh, God. Then he casually drops in the conversation that apparently his sister-in-law had never really bothered making an effort with me because she didn't think the relationship was serious. So, right, he's gone to family weekend. He's opening up thinking, I think I'm going to break through Sarah. It's kind of making sense why she's never bothered about you. I don't think he's been speaking that highly about you, Sarah. Me neither. Like if he's gone to this family weekend and the whole conversation of this weekend is like, I think I'm going to break up with Sarah.

55:26La-da-dee, la-da-da. La-da-dee, la-da-da-doo. La-da-da-da-me, la-da-da-da-do. Of course, she's feeling comfortable to be like, well, yeah, to be honest, Brian, I haven't made that much of an effort because I didn't think it was that serious. I never thought you were that serious about her. I would actually say in this moment, I think that's probably a fair judgment from her. Same. Especially if he's then gone back. Obviously, this is maybe a pattern and things he's saying to them. And yes, we've been together for three years, but he's obviously made it clear, like I'm not going to marry the girl.

55:53Yeah. It is seeming that way. Especially she's got two kids, three and five. She's thinking, I ain't worried about your girlfriends. Like I'm a mom, I've got two kids. I've got this, I'm with the family. Yeah, I'm now concerned on what he's saying. It's not like she's your age and you're like just dating. I also don't like how he was going to break up with you. No. And he was like, I'm going to break up. He was going to break up with me. Yeah. Like just because of what? logistics okay i'm 25 he's 27 right we've also been together for three years ever since finding all of this out i felt so uncomfortable around his family i've only been to stay with them once since and i genuinely think i cried about three times in the toilet trying to compose myself because all i could think was they know all our business they probably don't like me what has been said about me yeah and that's an awful feeling and it's like you know there's been conversations about you yes and you know everyone's put their two cents in giving him advice as they should yeah absolutely he has every right to go to his family and talk about things but the fact that it's just so oh uncomfortable known and like you'd rather maybe like the mom say like oh like sit you down and be like how are you feeling oh a couple of weeks ago that was kind of rough but we love you we're happy you're here like we you know you know what i mean like some reassurance but we love you it's still been like unsaid it's just kind of sarah's here wonder how long this is gonna be yeah and obviously the sister and i was like wonder how long this is gonna last like this is what they're all saying sitting back and watching it's entertainment for her and now i absolutely dread when my boyfriend says we should go and stay with them god the weird thing is i'm normally perfectly capable of talking to people i genuinely enjoy speaking to my friend's parents my ex's parents in the past but around them my mind just goes completely blank i forget everything about myself all my hobbies disappear from my brain and i basically become mute well it's because you're uncomfortable and you're overthinking everything you're saying you're too worried about how you're being perceived that yeah it's like silencing you and you're like oh i want to be positive yeah i say that blah blah blah like it's tricky and it's so uncomfortable it's like well my boyfriend wanted to break up with me two weeks ago you guys all know yeah and it's like but i'm still here and it said they agree yeah and it's like also you've given me no reassurance as the family it to be like oh you know like i said like we love you we're happy yeah like it's really awkward it's like actually do you want me here i'm constantly being analyzed everything i say because i feel like i'm being judged or like i need to prove that i'm a good enough for my boyfriend.

58:07I've explained this to him a few times, but it never really goes anywhere beyond him saying they do like you. But I don't find that actually fixes how uncomfortable I feel. Especially now I know his sister-in-law actively chose not to bother with me because she apparently didn't think our relationship would last. And I think that's the bit I'm struggling with most. Part of me is genuinely scared of being in a relationship where I dread being around his family because obviously this is always going to be a part of his life. What would you girls do? Would you make an effort to try and win them over and start afresh?

58:37Would you keep your distance and just be polite when you have to see them? Or would you expect your boyfriend to do more to make you feel comfortable around his family? Yes. Because at this point, I'm not even sure what the normal reaction is. Yes. I mean, he's put you in this situation. They look like a lovely couple. Sarah, that's a beautiful dress. Let's see. Yeah. Oh, Sarah, you're really stunning. I think he's put you in this situation. It's his job to go above and beyond to fix it and make you feel really comfortable. right he needs to understand what this situation he's put you in i also do think we need to check in with this man i think he's scaring me going on here he's scaring me like i feel like yeah you probably feel like you're more in this relationship than you feel really uneasy right now really uneasy really unsettling and like yeah horrible i'm a bit scared i feel like you yeah yeah he's tried to break up with you before that's really scary he obviously doesn't speak highly about you to his family oh i don't like it it just really scared you like i would hate that i'd hate to go around and feel uncomfortable and feel like yeah that's not how you should feel either you should feel a part of the family welcome with open especially especially after three years yes i i'm really so i'm scared that he's kind of saying to them yeah i kind of want to end things so she's kind of pulled me back in we've got this holiday booked let's probably go let's just ride out till christmas and then we'll see so naturally when you're coming around they're kind of a bit uncomfortable because they're thinking oh well we don't want to bond too much with her because he's chatting about wanting to break up with her he's a bit probably like i kind of feel sorry for her yeah and they're probably like oh my god brian's a bit of a mess like he needs to make up his mind like but for now like we'll welcome her in but like we're all a bit uncomfortable right now because he's a mess yeah he's not reassuring us he's not reassuring you sarah He's literally Like this is his job To fix this I think And you need to say to him Hey Brian Hello Remember me Remember me You wanted to break up With me last month Yeah what's that all about What's that all about Yes we've patched things up But have we Am I meant to be super grateful That you've not broken up with me Like if you don't want to be with me Just fucking say Number one Number two I feel so uncomfortable Going to your family I've been with you for three years Yeah And I'm scared To go and hang out with your family That's not normal Because what are you saying to them Yeah Like do they think You're going to break up with me Like is that why they're really uncomfortable around me like they think that you're gonna end things with me i'm like i'm not your wife i'm not like i'm not gonna be who you're gonna be with forever so that's why they're kind of being like this with me like be honest with me because yeah i i think that's kind of the situation at hand me too so that they're not going out of their way to be to make you feel super comfortable because they're thinking he's gonna break it break up with you like tomorrow yeah and also that's not a nice feeling to be in sitting in your relationship i would definitely check in with the relationship like how are you feeling what is the reality of it like I do think this is a big moment to really look inwards and be like is this my like is this your person you're 25 frontal lobes arrived you've had three years with this guy like is this your husband like it it might be but I would be feeling unsettled on the back foot I'd be feeling like oh I'm more in this than he is I do think you need some relationship chats because yeah it is very like he's broke up with you and now like you're bad and you you went home singing his praises he went home basically like saying it was terrible like we're clearly viewing this relationship very differently we ain't aligned we don't share the same feelings because obviously we don't like my family think you're fucking great and apparently your family don't think i'm gonna stick around so like what's going on conversation and if it's nothing other than reassurance yeah you feel it coming out feeling super secure and like oh i feel really great after that i feel so much better he really reassured me he's gonna let me know that he's going to talk to his family why did he break up with you what were the reasons why did we then get back together like what went down here what changed that you then thought actually no i want to be with you like what yeah like situation i can't be in a situation where you're considering breaking up with me because that shouldn't be an option of losing me no that's where my mind is like no because like if i'm considering to break up with someone i mean it and i don't really want to be with you i know but i've just kind of found myself back here because like because like you were convincing you're convincing and like yeah it's been three years like maybe i'll give it six months like that's where my mind is at when i'm considering breaking up with someone so i'm scared that he's kind of like being like oh i'll give it six months and maybe just cool off going to the family home for a bit like i think sort the relationship out first behind closed doors to your between yourselves and then gauge it and then you know when you do go around maybe try and think okay i'm really gonna make an effort with the mum this time yeah like i'm gonna say to her like should we have a cup of tea like let's sit in the kitchen like let's just not go upstairs and sit in Brian's bedroom like let's sit with the fam yeah yeah yeah and let's have some chats and let's like sit with the mum for a bit Brian can be in the living room I can be with the mum in the kitchen like let's try and make an effort to be like okay I love this family I want to try and get on board I mean I think it's on Brian telling them to stay but you also want to make an effort with these people and like try and like build your confidence up with these connections as long as Brian is reassured you made you feel secure after this conversation absolutely let's go back into the family smiling bubbly i'm here to stay attitude motherfuckers yeah like hopefully brian's like you know bitch but i'm here like hello yeah i'm auntie bitch yeah sorry i would never but yeah i'm back yeah like hello i'm auntie yeah and i'm good vibes yeah but it's on him to let the family know actually yeah i'm not i'm not breaking up with those she's actually here to stay la la la yeah and then they can relax and everyone's gonna make it yeah you know that's awkward spot to be in god i'm stressed yeah but yeah yeah i don't like that talk's needed yeah that's more of a problem than what the sister-in-law yeah like if he came to me and said my boyfriend oh he was thinking of breaking up with me last week but i've managed to convince him to stay yeah i'd be like oh don't bring him around like you have to like yes awkward for us it's yeah exactly it's all good for us we don't want to have no yeah yeah don't like it yeah check in on that star of the week yes i think we need it have some niceness whoa we're really getting good off throwing cash we actually are right oh you're gonna love this one oh what is it I would like to nominate my boyfriend Garth Garth Wayne's World party on Garth excellent woo woo woo why what's that it's a famous Garth yes in Wayne's World I've never seen oh I ain't seen Wayne's World you ain't seen Wayne's World Garth Garth I love that name baby Garth love Garth for star of the week As in May, we found out we're expecting our first baby.

1:05:03With Garth? With Garth. Garth Jr. And since then, he's been making... Rosie, good name for you there. Yes, Garth. Baby G. Baby Garth. That's cute. I like it. Bring it back, you know, bring it back. Be the only Garth in the world, do you know what I mean? Be the second Garth in the world. He's been making extra effort every single day to look after me during my pregnancy. He went back to work offshore a week ago, but still FaceTimes every day and even sent me flowers in the post yesterday to cheer me up after I had a bit of a down day. He's also reading baby stories to my stomach before he went away.

1:05:37That is so cute. Which was the cutest thing ever. I know he will be a great dad. And when the time comes, but for now he's going to be the best boyfriend to me. Pics attached. Daddy Gar. Let's see Gar. I want a visual of Gar. Here he is. Wow, no, I was expecting for Gar. Proud daddy. That is so cool. Yeah, he's tall. Gar? Yes, because he's working offshore. Isn't that like on the oil rigs? It is. we saw all of them at the airport didn't we yeah we did but shout out Garth shout out Garth daddy Garth round of applause an iconic name for an iconic boy baby Garth on its way 2027 shout out thank you so much for listening everyone we've loved having you here absolutely what a whirlwind of a rollercoaster today has been if you have a dilemma or a star of the week entry you can email it to hello at thegirlsbathroom.com absolutely you can you can follow us on Instagram YouTube and TikTok and we will see you on Monday during the group chat If not, we'll see you next Wednesday.

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