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16 Sep 2025 · 1h 10m · 26 chapters

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Girl Talk: Is her DYING wish to sleep with my boyfriend?

In short

The episode is a “Girl Talk” advice show mixing hosting banter with two relationship dilemmas. First, Sarah asks whether her “dying wish” to sleep with her boyfriend is real and how to handle her boyfriend’s closeness to a sick rowing coach. Second, another Sarah wonders if her best friend got pregnant on purpose four months after her, because the best friend is in a toxic relationship with the same-named boyfriend.

Guests/backgrounds

No formal guest list. The “guests” are the hosts (Paige from Giggly Squad is mentioned) and two advice-seekers: Sarah (the rowing/“dying wish” dilemma) and Sarah (the pregnancy/timing dilemma). Both are women in their 30s; the rowing Sarah is dating “Brian” and the other Sarah is pregnant and has a best friend also named Sarah.

Key claims

Rowing Sarah claims the coach is ill with limited life expectancy and that her boyfriend is prioritizing her, crossing boundaries; she also claims the boyfriend becomes defensive and calls her jealous. Pregnancy Sarah suspects jealousy-driven pregnancy timing with a toxic partner.

Notable examples

Rowing Sarah lists seven incidents (seat-stealing at dinner, late-night “deep chats,” sharing coats in rain, helping after a 6:30am breakdown, topless/shoulder-massage confusion as a physio, being invited to a rowing dinner where the coach asks to be a “plus one,” and Instagram story favoritism). Pregnancy Sarah cites the best friend’s toxic “grunting” partner and the close timing of positive pregnancy tests.

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Chapters

1:46

Concert Memories and Justin Bieber

Hosts reminisce about their concert experiences, especially with Justin Bieber.

“She's put the double A, but it's the triple A, isn't it?”
4:30

Sauna Stories and Experiences

Discussion on sauna experiences, including encounters and preferences.

“Yeah, it's just going to come out in the toilet.”
5:50

Question of the Week: Boss Nicknames

Hosts talk about funny nicknames they've given to their bosses.

“Well, I'm consuming the powerhouse smoothie from the Asai and the Tribe.”
14:01

Funny Nicknames and School Memories

The hosts share humorous nicknames and anecdotes from school, focusing on memorable teachers.

“He keeps popping up on my TikTok, Cake Boss.”
16:03

Serious Disclaimer Before Advice

The hosts give a lighthearted disclaimer about their advice not being professional.

“So what did that woman get called now then?”
19:23

Introduction to the Dilemma

Sarah presents her dilemma regarding her boyfriend and a woman with a dying wish.

“We are going to begin this Wednesday with a tale from our Sarah here.”
21:15

Sarah's Boyfriend and the New Coach

Sarah discusses her boyfriend's new rowing coach and their growing closeness.

22:29

Incidents Raising Red Flags

Sarah recounts incidents that raise concerns about her boyfriend's behavior with the coach.

“have affairs at work because you're spending so much time with these people we're blowing off a bit of steam together you know We're celebrating gold together Should we go grab a protein smoothie after training today?”
26:06

Analyzing Brian's Actions

The hosts analyze Sarah's boyfriend's questionable actions and his emotional connection with the coach.

“One time Sarah - Also strange from her, sorry.”
28:01

Confusion at the Row Club

The hosts discuss a situation involving Sarah, her boyfriend Brian, and another woman.

“It's Alcoholics Anonymous, that's what it's reminding me of.”
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29:19

Rowing Dinner Drama

Details emerge about Brian's rowing dinner and interactions with the other woman.

“My Brian has been invited to a rowing dinner.”
31:21

Sarah's Medical Situation

The serious context of Sarah's health condition is introduced, affecting perceptions of the situation.

“quite a few times yet she has never posted any of the other rowers at all so it's like an intimate I've got favouritism in the workplace and now it's a HR issue.”
33:41

Navigating Relationship Concerns

The hosts provide advice on how to tackle feelings of jealousy and insecurity in the relationship.

“He will always go above and beyond to help others.”
39:44

The Importance of Boundaries

Discussion on the need for clear boundaries in relationships, especially when outside influences arise.

“And she never, and remember, you guys don't even have a friendship.”
42:05

Understanding His Perspective

Learn how to communicate feelings and seek empathy in relationships.

44:38

Dilemma of Jealousy and Timing

Explore the complexities of friendship and pregnancy timing.

“Did my best friend get pregnant four months after me out of jealousy?”
48:25

Navigating Supportive Friendships

Discuss ways to support a friend in a troubled relationship.

“And I think it's actually really sad that she didn't have the strength or support to, to, to break up with this awful man.”
53:11

Reflections on Past Connections

Reflect on the evolution of friendships over time.

“I'm a new listener, but have already finished all of your reps.”
56:00

The Pressure of Ballet

Discussing the intense pressure and stress associated with professional ballet training.

58:00

Friendship Dynamics

Examining the strain on a friendship as one friend becomes increasingly distant.

“So we plan to go to Centre Parcs and to sort a spa.”
1:00:00

Plans and Priorities

Debating the importance of a planned birthday celebration versus other commitments.

“And what's a better offer than celebrating your best friend's 21st at Aqua Sauna Spa?”
1:02:30

Assessing Friendship Value

Contemplating the value of a friendship that feels one-sided and neglected.

“And I don't even know if she knows why, but like we're so far from where we used to be.”
1:07:30

Navigating Friendship Changes

Exploring how friendships evolve and the inevitability of growing apart.

“You don't want to be friends with people who don't want to be friends with you.”
1:10:01

Navigating Friendships and Cancelled Plans

Learn how to handle friendships when plans fall through and how to prioritize your own happiness.

“you know, and she never hears from them again.”
1:11:28

Star of the Week: Niamh's Engagement Story

Hear a touching engagement story that highlights surprise, romance, and special moments.

“She is saying, I would like to submit my Brian as Brian of the Week because he really deserves it.”
1:15:49

Podcast Format Evolution and Audience Behavior

Explore how podcast formats are evolving and what audiences truly prefer.

“The thing is, podcast audiences never cared.”
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0:00So you're not worried about hosting the whole family for the holidays? Why would I be? Wayfair had everything I needed to get the house holiday ready. What if Mike brings his cheerful dogs? My tree has tons of five-star reviews telling me how sturdy it is. But what if everyone's plus one brings a plus one? We'll see how extendable this extendable table really is. And extra chairs are on the way. Okay. What if there's a blizzard and everyone has to sleep over? Ready to go with extra bedding and towels. From guest-ready essentials to holiday decor you can trust, Wayfair delivers. Hey guys, it's Paige from Giggly Squad.

0:32Okay, can we all agree that hosting is so much fun? And I really do love it. Every weekend, it's come over for snacks, let's make dinner together, and somehow the second you put out a fruit platter, it seems that bugs show up before your friends do. This is why I have to have my Zeevo flying insect trap. You plug it in and you let it do all the work. It's specially designed blue and UV light attracts the bugs you didn't know you had. And wow, did we have a lot. like house flies, fruit flies, gnats, and then with Zivo, bam. Next thing you know, the pests are caught in the sticky cartridge and away from your yummy treats without any mess or strong odors.

1:09The best part is the design is actually sleek and curved, so it hides the bugs it catches, keeping them out of sight, and when the cartridge is full, you just grab the no mess tab, throw it in the trash, pop in a new cartridge, and then you're done. No mess, no stress. So whether you're hosting a dinner party or spending an afternoon baking treats with all your friends and you want to focus on hosting and not constantly swatting at bugs, Zivo has you covered with 24 7 bug protection. Plug in a Zivo flying insect trap so you can work smarter, not harder, and actually enjoy your time at home. Oh my god, plot twist, she's married?

1:48What? Where's her husband or the triple A? She's put the double A, but it's the triple A, isn't it? Oh sorry, I said the AA. Who's the AA? It is the AA. Oh, who's the AAA? Who's AAA? The batteries. I thought you called the AAA. Oh, I thought you said you called the AAA. The Duracells. Wait, it's the AA. It's the AA. You know the drama is never ending. Don't let it get the best of you. All righty, Roo. All around the world. Where, oh, oh. People want to be loved. What a tune. What a tune. Sing it from the high heaven. You're beautiful. Beautiful. You should know it. I'll never forget, first time I went to Justin Bieber live, I bought purple converse.

2:31See, I wasn't there, was I? No, you weren't. I went with my other friend from school. Sorry. Actually, her name was Sarah. Shout out, Sarah. Shout out, Sarah. Shout out, Sarah. I went to the t-shirt printers. Got iHeart JB t-shirts made. Iconic. Also got iHeart Edward Cullen t-shirts made. Iconic. Because we went to the new moon. She's got a kink for vampires. Yeah. And we wore red con. I think I've told that before. Anyway, Justin Bieber. Yeah. Got a pair of purple Converse. Willow. Willow Smith. Shut up. I'll win my hair back and forth. Yeah, it was fantastic. And had a black little like bodycon skirt on.

3:09You must have been nine years old. No, we were in secondary school because it was Sarah. So we went to Sarah's house, like mum before we left. Like I took her digicam. And then before we left, I was like, come on girls, get a picture of the stairs. because we were like going out on our own to this concert. And it was so good. And I'm sure that was the first song or have I got the year? Was that when we went? That was the first song. I cannot remember. When he came down with those wings. Oh, that was when we went. I only remember Cody Simpson at that concert. He was a support the second time around.

3:41And I wore my purple Converse, which were actually fake Converse. Oh, iconic. Because Justin Bieber's favourite colour was purple. So yeah, side fringe. And we blew your socks off, didn't we? Literally. It was the best night ever. Did you shave your vagina ready to meet him? I didn't actually, but I did think that I would get noticed in the purple converse. I really thought like, I'm going to get noticed and I'm going to be the one less lonely girl because it was the one less lonely girl year. And I thought, well, I'm going to like make sure I've got my purple converse on because I know his favorite color is purple.

4:14I mean, iconic if you were one less lonely girl. There's got to be one person listening who was a one less lonely girl. or who knew a one less lonely girl or who saw the girl in the crowd who was the one less lonely girl yes so good but then we went back and then our parents were really angry weren't they why because we had to wait like three hours for him to come on stage well yeah that was when he was in his crazy era and was like three hours late to come on stage in Nottingham when it was a school night yeah but we love Justin we do we support he was going through a lot and it's a java hukon yeah i'll pick up whenever you come what a time well today we're serving like full autumn realness like not even also so weird for us both to be in like one color well i'm trying to cover up like the lack of fake tan likewise yeah i'm giving olive you're giving grape oh yeah plum yeah with a matching smoothie of course yeah i should have gone for the green glow really to be really on theme but we have sustenance today and i've added some collagen to my smoothie oh did you yeah well i looked in the mirror this morning and thought jesus okay you don't well apparently ingesting collagen actually doesn't work oh that was an extra it needs to be injected into you oh i don't think like the salmon sperm yeah i don't think eating it it then produces it in you.

5:42Yeah, it's just going to come out in the toilet. Yeah, because it's just going to come out in your fecal matter, babes. What a lie that was then. Well, no, it must do something. It must do something. Or let me know if I start glowing. Well, I'm consuming the powerhouse smoothie from the Asai and the Tribe. Shout out. It's actually delicious. Yeah, lovely. And it matches your outfit. Yes. Most importantly. I'm really ready for the full form vibes. Active way of play. Absolutely. Yummy mummy. Literally. Literally. In my little lycra. Well, happy Wednesday, everyone. Welcome back to the show. It's a lovely day.

6:16We're actually both going to the sauna after this. Yeah, not the gay man sauna. Not the gay man sauna. But to just have a nice... Are your saunas mixed? Yes, which is the risk. Yes, it's the risk. It's a big risk. Is it a busy... Not usually. Because the girls in my sauna... Depends what time I'll go in. Naked. Yeah, I would love that. I'd love to be wild and furry. I don't personally do I do towel yes but the girls they just take it off yeah I mean love that same it's probably good for all the holes and everything to experience yeah and the steam I've been in there once and there was then two men get in oh for god's sake I'm just ruining the vibe and then they were like excuse me do you mind if I don't speak to me I'm in my bathing suit number one don't speak to me I'm vulnerable number two I'm a 13 year old child don't speak to me He said, excuse me, do you mind if I do essential oils?

7:09Oh. To put some essential oils out. Well, that was actually very polite to ask. And it actually was quite nice. And then I don't know what he did, but then the whole sauna went like minty. Oh, wow. Minty and pepperminty. Oh. And it was really nice. But then. Oh, what a lovely gentleman. It started to burn your eyes. Because the sweat was starting to sting, wasn't it? I don't know. I don't know. It was so strong. It was really nice. And I'd actually like that today just to clear the sinuses. absolutely but then it started to burn my eyes but it was nice I don't know how he did it I don't know if he just did a few drops I don't know what he did did he put it on his skin or did he put it in the like coals I didn't know he didn't do that he just went sorry hiccup he just went do you mind if I just do my essential oils and it was nice but then there was two men with me in there but I usually go on at low full times yeah likewise there's no point trying to go at 6pm a 3, 4pm nothing past 6pm or a 10am also empty great time a pre-work hours I won't yeah because I've always got the fear of what happens if I because you know the sauna like you can't really see how busy it is until you kind of open the door and my fear is I've got eyes on mine as soon as I enter oh really yeah and then if it's too busy I might just wait well that's my fear that I'm gonna go in and I'm gonna walk in and it's going to be full and then like what do i do in that situation do i sit on the floor do i leave no they'll budge up for you they'll budge up yeah i guess they would budge up they would move the girls would budge up for me yeah yeah it's not gonna be that packed how busy is it well i don't know sometimes that changing room is very busy yeah hence why i'm only going at 10 a.m yeah yeah yeah because i've got crowd fit for sure i've had to budge up for people before yeah Well, I always make myself very small because I never want people to feel like they can't fit.

9:00Yeah, if they're laid down, they'll get a lot of job for you. I mean, the hardcore girls laying down on the top. No, that's too much for me. I'm sitting nearest the door, just in case. Yeah, just in case of a fire hazard. Anyway, welcome back. Cozy season is here. Absolutely. Sonar season is here. Lydia did this last time she came to mind, yeah. I bought some brand new New Balances. She's leaving the house. She's got my new ones on. and she's no no she didn't have them on her old ones were at my door said they're not my new balances you've you've packed my new balances give me back my new she's doing it again i've got her old dirty new balances on look at them oh yeah these are not my new balances she's doing a switcheroo on me she's a sneaky little sly little thing yeah because look at these she is this is not a new look at this this is not a new balance fresh i think this is why i'm maybe not meant to have sisters because that would really annoy me it builds your character though yeah it's testing it's it's it's good for building character yeah and patience patience and sharing absolutely conflict yes um all the things lovely very wisdom-monious of you um okay so we're going to start with our question of the week it is girl talk today i believe it is if i'm not mistaken And our question of the week this week is, what is the funniest name you've given a boss slash manager?

10:32Did I have a, right, the only, my first boss was Wayne from Pom Pom. Wayne, never forget. We won't speak of Wayne. He should have been reported to HR. However, there was no HR at Pom Pom. Wayne was a HR walking flag. There was no HR at Pom Pom, that's for sure. No. Wayne, did I give him a nickname? No, but he was just... The pain. Wayne the pain. Horrendous. He was horrendous and vulgar. He was vulgar. He was vulgar. Did you give him a nickname? I don't think I did. We had a manager called Catherine. Well, you had the thieving. You were the thieving manager. No, his partner. His husband was a thief.

11:13How embarrassing. He was a shop. He was the manager of a store and his partner also worked at a store. and he got caught for thieving in a store. That's so bad now. And that was like prime work gossip. In his own store. In another store. In the same shopping centre. He worked there at that store. He worked there. So he stole from his own store? No, he stole from a different store. But we had a manager called Catherine and I don't really know where, it wasn't a nickname, but people just used to call her, like they used to go, they used to go, really? That's really mean. I don't like that. Not to her face, but this one boy would always just go like, he would pretend to be on a motorbike.

11:57And he'd be like, really? Why though? I don't know. And if you forgot that was even a thing. We should have asked for nicknames for teachers as well. And I also thought, this is probably karma. Yeah. Because Catherine, she was a lovely woman. It was always a nice day when Catherine was in, because it was like, no offense, Catherine, but she was like the supply teacher it was oh we're not going to do shit today it's only Catherine yeah um and bless Catherine she was lovely and but she would always divulge a lot of her like relationship issues which I thoroughly enjoyed yes I would enjoy that um and I remember she said that she met her husband or her fiance on a dating app and we all thought like oh Catherine that is so sad but the funny thing is like i obviously but i remember we all used to be like oh catherine she's not got a life she had to like meet someone on an app oh catherine justice for catherine and then i'm like oh my god that must have been karma because i also met my partner on an app but i mean i remember the time she had like a house party and she showed us all her vibrator in her cup in her draw and it was like Catherine I think we might have crossed over the professional boundaries here wait she invited you into I always loved Catherine but I would get a lot of discourse from other colleagues did I meet Catherine I feel like I was aware of Catherine you must have met Catherine obviously didn't know the law yeah you must have met Catherine it was always she was always arguing with her partner like from the staff room you would hear it and yeah bless her oh well justice Justice for Catherine from Jack Wills.

13:36Honestly, justice for Catherine. But she had a great time at work. Yeah. I think. Well, that's lovely. Yeah, justice for Catherine. I hope she's still with her partner and driving. Honestly, me too. I hope they are still having a lovely, happy life. Right. So the question of the week was... Cake Boss. He had the biggest promise. Did we say what the question of the week is? Yeah. Weird names for your boss. We've got... Cake Boss. Cake Boss is funny. He keeps popping up on my TikTok, Cake Boss. Voldemort. Cankles. Thrush. G-spot because we could never find her. Skidmark. Skidmark. Kit Kat because they were always taking a break.

14:20That was Catherine. That's funny. Sorry, Catherine. Hoover. Hoover? Why Hoovy? Must have ate all your food or something. Ate all the snacks. Gollum. Blister. Tinky Winky. Rumpelstiltskin. Ripple Stilt skin. Oh. Oh, Krusty Flaps. Oh, where's that one? Oh, no. BDI, Big Dick Ian. Ian. Oh my God, Mr. Worldwide. He's bold and owns a white suit. Yeah. Hell dog, because she was a bitch from hell. Oh, what the fuck? Elaine the Pain, a classic. Wacky backy. What does that mean? Peter Griffin. Who's Peter Griffin? Family Guy. Wait, Family Guy, right? Let me look at Peter Griffin. I wasn't a Family Guy watcher.

15:19My brother would watch Family Guy all night, every night. Family Guy, American Dad. Of course I know Peter. Yeah, because I used to think the baby was so cute. Stu, right? See, I never enjoyed it. Is his name Stu? Stewie Stewie and he was like an old man in a baby yeah but I thought he was so cute he was a little baby he was cute Stewie Stewie we've got here Fossil he was old as fuck Fossil we've got Papa not sure about that one Zaddy I think we've said them all I think we have oh the sloth Le Boo Boo he's short and always angry aww aww shout out to all the bosses out there the bosses and managers you're doing great yeah you're doing great we're doing great i think we should ask for teacher nicknames next oh gosh yeah because like what what what did we have any nicknames for teachers i'm trying to think there was tom the baptist but he was the baptist tom the baptist was he was the what what was he the bishop the church he wasn't the priest the school priest he wasn't a priest he was the the religious leader of the school yeah he was the pre was he not he wasn't a priest though because he he wasn't a pre he was just like a cool catholic like he was a baptist he made like religion like really cool his second name was baptist what yeah that was his second name it It was Tom Baptist.

16:56Yeah. Wait, wait. You mean I got it? I'm sure. That became his name from his studies. No, that is his name. But we would call him Tom the Baptist. Talking about invisible string. I think. I thought he was the Baptist. Well, then what's his second name? Well, I don't know. He was a teacher. It was Baptist, 100%. So what did that woman get called now then? Who? His wife, the chemistry teacher. Yeah, what was her name? She was my chemistry teacher. she was lovely Miss Shulung can't remember her name no I can't either she was very science she was gorgeous anyway they fell in love they fell in love they fell madly in love and they've had a baby have they?

17:36I thought I'm just assuming baby Baptist I'm just assuming I was like 10 years ago and they lived happily ever after with four children oh yeah I can't really think of any Nick games off the top of my head for teachers but let us know guys we'll have to ask that question and maybe it will it might Miss Gilman must have had a few. Aww. We were 10 years old. I don't think we were. No, I don't think we were. I mean, I'll always remember though, we had one teacher who was called Mrs. Grimm. Who was that? Mrs. Grimm. And like deep, her last name was Grimm. That's really quite sad. But she was a scary teacher.

18:12Who was that? It was like from Horrid Henry, Mrs. Battleaxe.

18:19Yeah, Mrs. Grimm. She was quite a scary... I mean she obviously was a lovely lady Wait where was she? As a child I always found her quite scary From where? Very short grey hair She used to assist like Miss Gilman Mrs Grimm And I remember when she told me off Of course Of course the grey pixie cut The grey pixie cut Yes Yes she was old and frail She was a little bit scary for a young child She was quite stern Yeah From memory Mrs Grimm Yeah Like that's a watch I know Anyway Anyway right let's move into some Shall we dive into the D-Limbs?

18:58Just before we get into it, quick disclaimer. Just to say, we are not doctors. We are not professionals. We do not actually know what we are talking about. This is a lighthearted space. Okay. Don't take what we say literally because we could be wrong. Yeah. And if there's anything serious, if there's anything you feel like you're seriously struggling with, please contact a GP, a professional, because that is not us. We're just girls, girls and boys just like you, you know? We're just trying to get through life as well. Not professionals. Enjoy the episode. We are going to begin this Wednesday with a tale from our Sarah here.

19:29It's a long tale. I've just scammed it. Short top, long tail. Long tail. Short top, long tail. And her question, her dilemma is, is her dying wish to sleep with my boyfriend? Make a wish. Make a wish. Yeah. I'll go on, Sarah. Yeah. Go on, Sarah. Go on. Come on, be generous for once. Come on. Hey, girls. Stop thinking about yourself. This is serious now because this is actually serious. Okay, this is serious. Because this lady was asleep with her boyfriend. Hey, girls. I love your pod and I listen every week whilst driving to work. Thank you, Sarah. Thank you, Sarah. This is going to be a long one.

20:09I may end up realising I'm in the wrong here, but I need your advice. Okay, we're approaching this. Sometimes we are in the wrong and that's fine. And you know, no one's perfect. Yeah, no one's perfect. We're approaching this ready to solve. As always. I've been with my Brian for four years. We've bought a house. He surprised me with a golden retriever puppy. And we just love our life right now. Being in your mid-twenties is fun. Yeah. Exclamation mark. Brian is the kindest guy I've ever met and we have never even fallen out until now.

20:46Wow. Dot, dot, dot. So this is causing a ruckus between the two of you, whatever is going on here with this lady. The dying woman. Yes. Brian has always been into sports. Where are we going here, Sarah? I know, it's long. Seriously, it's long. But had a few years off while setting up his business. Love that. Okay. Last year, he returned to rowing. And asked if I wanted to join too. too as race men are really athletically very athletic yeah why don't you do that train where you ask him do you ever wish you were more athletic yeah i think that's funny do you ever wish you're more athletic um sorry i've lost my place last year he returned to rowing and asked if i wanted to join too as the race days and training would take up a lot of time oh so he's saying come with yeah i like that i gave it a go and i love it so i've continued with him It's fun having a hobby together Whilst also training separately Beautiful guys A rowing couple Here's the dilemma Gently down the street He got a new coach at the start of the year Let's call her Sarah She's our age She coaches Surely this woman's not dying Is she?

22:03I'm not sure Let's know She coaches Brian maybe four to five times a week so they spend a lot of time together you know what that's giving it's giving their own strictly come dancing and they're training five days a week five hours a day intimate interlocking passion it's giving training tropes and they fall in love that's why people have affairs at work because you're spending so much time with these people we're blowing off a bit of steam together you know We're celebrating gold together Should we go grab a protein smoothie after training today? Yeah, you're looking really good Let me try yours, sip his straw Now we've exchanged saliva It's sensual, there's eye contact Eye contact You know?

22:53Right, okay, so five days a week They spend a lot of time together She knows me and Bryna together I've always made effort to smile and say hi She's never made the effort back So you guys are not friendly. What's the fucking problem? I know. Well, babes, give me a smile. You guys are not friendly. Smile and wave, boys. Oh, God. Things start going down south. Is that in your relationship, I'm assuming? This was May, sorry. In May, things started going south. Okay, so we've not had a summer of love. No. There have been quite a few incidents. Sorry, I couldn't get over that. Do you want to start that one?

23:28There's been quite a few incidences since May, but I'll just name a few. Oh, my God. Go on, then. By few, she means seven. Okay. Number one. We were out for dinner as a club, as a road club. I went to the toilet and came back and she was sat in my chair next to Brian and refused to move when I got back. That's just rude. On your feet, lose your seat. Yeah. The cheat. Yeah, yeah. The cheat. Yeah. Excuse me. Yeah. Yeah. My name card's there. You know, fine. Fill my seat while I'm gone for a minute. But when I'm back, I shouldn't even have to ask you to move. Do you know what I mean? It's like, oh, sorry.

24:08You know? So, okay. Yeah. That was incident number one. She's testing the water. She's seeing how far she can push you. I need to know if she's dying or not. Me too. I'm sure there's way more to go. Number two, he's been late home a few times because they've been having, I'll be sick, deep chats. Oh, no, no, no. But he hasn't once thought to text me to say he's running late. Deep chats for me is a big red flag. Likewise. Because I fear that's giving like, we're forming an emotional connection. What are we deep chatting about? Like, like this is a, this is a business relationship. Well, maybe we're talking about rowing.

24:50An injury. An injury. Yeah. You know, I'm not saying you can't have deep chats, but regularly. At night time as well. At night after training, like do you not want to get home to your partner or like you could come home and then like you could have a deep chat on the phone and I could be there well well yeah I know okay right number three on one of the race days it was pouring rain and I was soaked I said I was cold and wanted to go home she came over straight away and said the exact same thing he went to give Sarah his coat not me

25:29no i would cry i think i would i would i would cry no that would tip me over the edge yeah it holds so much weight yeah i just got body chills i just got full body is he okay is he actually okay oh no what is oh my god no what is happening here in what universe is no your boyfriend of four years looking at you no looking at no and giving what no no no that no that this to me signifies this is giving emotional affair the end of the relationship yeah do you know what i mean single woman after that event that's for sure that would make me like cry right number four so it's not just to note it's also coming from brian's side yeah it's not just sarah wanting No, I'm thinking Brian's initiated all of this actually.

26:22Sorry, Sarah. Yeah, no, truly, truly. Because - Number four. One time Sarah - Also strange from her, sorry. If in some crazy world, right, I was with a couple and we both said we were cold and her boyfriend gave, for whatever reason, me his jacket. I'd be like, well, don't be silly. Obviously Sarah's got to have it. You'd be like, oh, what are you doing? Obviously Sarah's got to have it. The fact that she actually was like, oh, thanks, I'm going to wear it. Knowing exactly what that signified. Weird. Right, number four. Bring your own coat, Sarah. Number four. One time Sarah called Brian at 6.30am to say she had broken down.

27:04He left. I would, no, this is too much. Call the AA. Don't call my boyfriend, Bates. He left the house instantly to go and help her. Plot twist. Oh my God, plot twist. She's married. What? where's her husband or the triple A she's put the double A but it's the triple A isn't it oh sorry I said the AA who's the AA it is the AA oh who's the triple A who's the triple A the batteries I thought you called the triple A I thought you said you called the triple A the Duracells wait it's the double A it's the AA oh wait what's the what's the triple A wait what does Grace talk about the ad association who did you call the ASA the ASA right we don't like the ASA no we've got the triple A We like the AA.

27:46No, we like the AA. Triple A batteries. Right, not service. I thought it was, you call it the triple A. Double A. Right, so she's saying, yeah. The AA, I think it's the AA. She's saying, where's the double A? Right, where's the AA? Yeah, so she's saying, where's your husband or the AA? Yeah, yeah. Which is half six in the morning. It's Alcoholics Anonymous, that's what it's reminding me of. Yes, of course. Right, number five. So this man is quick to help Sarah out. I think this is your boyfriend's fault. But we'll get into that later. Yeah. Because your boyfriend could have said, no. It's 6.30am.

28:18Where's your husband? Yeah. Do you want me to call the AA for you? Do you want me to call the AAA? Yeah. But he's in love with her too. Exactly. That's what I'm saying. It's his fault because he has not been putting boundaries in. What need you to do next? What? Number five. Oh my God. I can't even read this. Number five. I once walked in on Sarah Topless and Brian was, brackets, what looked like massaging her back. I later found out Where the hell are we? Where are we? What is happening right now? I'm in a nightmare Wake me up Literally I later found out That she had dislocated her shoulder And he was trying to help As he's a physio But why did she need to be in her bra?

29:01Was she in her bra or topless? There's a difference Was her nipples out or were they not? Could you see her areola or not? But still inappropriate Like I'm your trainer And she's stripping down to her bra or nipples right because she's hurt her shoulder but also where are we that you're walking in like i'm really confused maybe we're at the row club yeah in the in the back room i don't know in the changing rooms yeah they're mixed okay so he's not shy to get involved a bit of physical contact well he is a physio yeah fine fine fine but still you're yeah after everything else that has happened it's the cherry you should refer her to let me refer you to my my this physio steve yes you know before I put my hands on you instantly.

29:44Right, we've got two more instances. I can't take any more. I know me neither. Number six. My Brian has been invited to a rowing dinner. Honestly, we need to quit the row club. We need to quit the row club. Row, row, row your boat. Away from fucking here, babe. It sounds like too much is going on at this row club. Too much is happening. For this row club, we had no issues. No, we didn't. We were smooth sailing. I thought you were involved too, Sarah. I thought Sarah was like... Same. I thought you were around as well. Well, it's Rocky Waters. I just got your joke. It's Rocky Waters. Untiarted Waters.

30:18Right. Number six. I've been invited to, my brain has been invited to a rowing dinner. I was sat, sat. I was sat in the middle of them while she leant over me. Oh my God. Touched his leg, gave him a nickname and asked if she could be his plus one because I, and I quote, you'll be home looking after the dog. She said, can I be your puss one because your Sarah will be at home looking after the dog. Blueberry, the dog. Wow. So you're just getting triggered after triggered after triggered. What's he saying to that though? Yeah, sure. I bet he's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I bet he's like laughing and having a lovely time.

31:09surely right point number seven final point i'm so sorry this has been a summer of hell oh god the most recent issue is that she has posted brian on her instagram stories quite a few times yet she has never posted any of the other rowers at all so it's like an intimate I've got favouritism in the workplace and now it's a HR issue. It's Brian laughing. She snapped a picture. Yeah. Posting it. Mm-hmm. And you're getting triggered by it. Right. Here's the issue. What makes me sound like a terrible person. All right. Regroup now. Oh, no. Because it's serious. Regroup. I thought she was joking. Regroup.

31:58It's going to take me a sec. Actually, regroup. Oh, sorry. Okay. Regroup. I don't think she's dying this year, but here's the issue. What makes me... Right, regroup. Sorry. Yeah, this is actually life or death for our Sarah. She's actually like really... Oh no. She's concerned and she's troubled. Okay, I've regrouped. Right.

32:26Here's the issue. Right. Why don't you turn around? why don't you turn around and dig into your smoothie yeah i finished mine why is yours still full right the issue is is what makes me sound like a terrible person is that she's dying she is not funny this is a serious medical concern she does not have a long life expectancy see it's not funny it's all oh god

33:05simply do it actually is her dying wish yeah oh she's just it was a figure no but the thing is is like she's actually just living her life do you know what i mean she's just she's life short she's actually just going you know what yolo fuck it i want to be the plus one to brian and she's like yeah come touch on me i do have a dislocated shoulder yeah you know like she's She's actually living her life to the fullest. She's taking off that bucket list. I feel we should all take a leave out of the box. Oh dear. She does not have a long life expectancy due to a couple of medical conditions. My Brian is one of the most caring, kindest souls I've ever met.

33:43He is the biggest gentleman. He will always go above and beyond to help others. But in this situation, I feel like he's putting her above me. I've tried to bring this is actually a movie yeah it is no this could be the next Netflix chick flick giving the fault in our stars but just yeah it is um okay I've tried to bring a few of these issues up to him but it ends up in an argument and me getting called jealous your own boyfriend's calling you jealous so he's defending her and their relationship yeah he's not seeing This is a concern Yeah this is a concern When she dies I didn't want to say No but if he goes to the funeral I feel your relationship Will never recover Well he's going to have to Yeah I know but She's going to go as well Obviously But I feel he's He's going to then say I was in love with her I don't want to be with you I was only I was only living this life Because she was in it Or something like that Oh god Any advice would be welcome I've attached picture we've got a lot of pictures in news articles news articles of what I've attached photos of us Sarah and some screenshots of the Instagram stories in question fucking hell Sarah this is journalism it's finest right this is the happy couple and their dog that he surprised her with remember oh yeah the golden retriever he looks familiar stop I didn't see his exploits Oh my God.

35:21The dog is the cutest thing I've ever seen. You're also gorgeous, Sarah. Is he me on him? I'm not sure about him. He's giving ice gem in the best way. In the best way, obviously. No disrespect to Sarah. Yeah. No, he's lovely. Yeah. He looks kind. He looks kind. He looks well-groomed. He's got a nice pair of sunglasses on. Yeah. The dog is so cute. The dog is the cutest dog I've ever seen. And Sarah, you're a bombshell. Yeah. You're blue eyes. Sarah, you look gorgeous. Sorry, too many details. You're a bombshell. right this is sarah married sarah right right okay got a visual of sarah thank you what are we gonna do then well initially i had really took us on the journey it did sarah thank you initially i had more of an issue with your partner because i think like it takes two to tango and you listed seven things there that were kind of wild.

36:18Yeah. But knowing what we know, it does massively change the context. I think he's just got a soft spot for her. Maybe not romantic, but in a caring, like, I want you to enjoy your life. I know. Literally. Like, we need to look after you. Yeah. That's why you didn't get his jacket. She's ill. She's ill. Like, take the jacket. You're ill. Yeah. You need me to come get you? I'm on my way. I'm on my way. You're ill. But where is the husband? That is a valid question. Where is her husband? And where was the triple A? And where was the double A? Yeah. The triple A will never be found. So, I mean, right.

36:57So, right. This is serious. So she's actually brought it up to him. Has she? Yeah. Oh, yeah. And he said, you're jealous. Well, that was a bit mean spirited. I think so. And I don't like that from a boyfriend to kind of like throw that back at you. Like, oh, you're just jealous. because it doesn't like, no, I need some reassurance in this moment. And to be like, look, I can see why it might come across that way. But you know, we've grown very close. Like we are really good friends and you know, I'm just trying to take care of her. You know what she's going through. She's going through so much, like far more than we ever are.

37:27I feel protective of her in a sense. I've known her for a while, but he needs to, you know, when he's throwing out the, oh, you're just jealous. No, that's not nice. He needs to, you need to say, well, how would you feel? Okay. If I started bodybuilding and my new male trainer, yeah. I'm within five days a week. All of a sudden he's massaging me. I'm all over his social media. We're having deep chats. He's posting me. And back lakes. I'm hanging out with him. I'm laughing and I'm going for dinners with him and I'm making you feel left out and I'm prioritizing him. I'm sure he would feel the exact same thing.

38:05Yeah. So the fact that he's getting defensive, that's defense, right? Yeah, you're just jealous. Like, no, I'm your girlfriend. You should hear me out and listen to me and understand where I'm coming from and try and help fix the situation. Because he is your partner first. Yes. Like, I appreciate he's a caring person. Yes, but you should be priority. He wants to help, but he is your girlfriend. You should still be his number. He is your girlfriend. Sorry. You are still his girlfriend of four years. So you should still feel like his number one. Like, yeah, you can be good natured and you can be caring.

38:39And I'm not saying that you can't like have this friendship or whatever, but don't make me feel like the third wheel when I'm hanging out with you. Yes, that's what it feels like. Because like I'm your girlfriend, not her. She's got a husband of her own. Where is the husband? We'll never know. He works away. Then he shouldn't be leaving her alone. He shouldn't be working away. I know. I mean we need to talk about it again yeah and if he can't then obviously there's more going on then I would say okay well there's something going on here that you're not telling me yeah because you're getting very defensive I you know these are just feelings I'm feeling that I think are valid that I think are valid you know I didn't it's just not been one instance it's been seven more than seven yeah because she only littered a few to us I know please if you're not understanding of me then I'm gonna have to re-evaluate this situation because I can't live on like this yeah while I feel like I'm not priority in your life and this other woman is because you don't want to feel like that it's the illness which completely changes the context if she wasn't ill you would be like oh my god this is outrageous you'd say change rowing clubs let's get out of here yeah it does change the context but regardless like what Chint said you should still feel like number one.

40:03And she never, and remember, you guys don't even have a friendship. No. She never put in any effort with you. She doesn't smile at you. She doesn't speak to you. No. That's even more like, how can you be so friendly with my boyfriend but not even say hello to me? Like that I find strange. Yeah. So I think you need to sit him down again. Maybe don't even address her. Maybe more so say like, I feel like just our relationship. where we're at right now after the summer we've not had a good summer since May we've not had a good summer I don't feel like a priority we're not even talking about her no I don't feel like a priority I feel like I haven't seen you I feel like we're butting heads I feel like when I brought up that issue before you were defensive didn't want to hear me out what's going on?

40:46yeah let's leave her out and let's just talk about us yeah like you know and then see how he reacts and if he's defensive and weird again it's like right something is going on here yeah Like you've had sex. In the rowing boat. In the boat. Out at sea. Capsize. Yeah. Good luck, Sarah. That's so complicated. It really is, but it is a bad sign that it's getting defensive and throwing out the jealous. Yeah. Because your feelings are valid. Yeah. I think. Me too. Your boyfriend's grown closer to another woman. It makes you uncomfortable. He's a little bit too close. Even if it's just small things. It's crossed that professional boundary.

41:24Like after rowing, like, can you just like get home? Like I don't need you hanging out there for another two hours after you're rowing like five times a week, like having deep chats. Yeah. Just, can you just come back home afterwards? Yeah. Yeah. Small little like boundaries that maybe we could put in place to make you feel. And the coat, we mustn't forget the coat thing and the double A thing. I know. You know? Because she does have a support system. She has a husband and a family. It's not like she's out here on her own. Yeah. but good luck good luck sarah i think the only way to tackle this is to talk to him more about it and see what he has to say and if he can understand your point of view at all and and say to him like i said before how would you feel if i had grown close to another man yeah who wasn't making any effort with you yeah he didn't want to know anything about you but was really putting a lot of effort with me posting me doing all sorts coming to get me in the middle of the night giving me his coat how would you feel it's always good to put it in their shoes yeah see if he'll wake up yeah good luck what a journey that was

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44:37Okay, next dilemma. Switching gears. Did my best friend get pregnant four months after me out of jealousy? Surely this should be a happy time. This should be an incredible coincidence. This should be a joyous... You get to go through this together. Yeah, this is joyful. Yeah. But obviously it doesn't feel like that way to Sarah. No. Hi girls. Just wanted to start by congratulating Sophia on her engagement. Super excited for you and Brian. Thank you so much, Sarah. So my dilemma is that I believe my best friend might have gotten pregnant on purpose four months after me Purpose Is it that easy? Is it that easy to just click your toes and get pregnant?

45:15I don't think so I don't know For a little bit of context My best friend and I are both 30 She is called Sarah and we were on a vacation in California recently And during a drunk late night talk we both agree that we are we are now at the age of wanting to start having children yeah and that we are ready to start the new chapter of our life i am now four months pregnant i'm a very in a very happy and loving relationship with my boyfriend of over a year now kind of crazy timing i know but i believe everything happens for a reason we're talking about the two best friends and you both had that chat oh yeah like let's both get proud i know sounds perfect.

45:56While my best friend has been with her boyfriend, Brian, for maybe six or seven years, though their relationship is very toxic. For many years, I have given her the advice that she deserves a lot better than what he gives her. She's a beautiful, bright and selfless person, while he is what I call a dark cloud. Always in a negative mood, only wants to speak about his interests and will express he doesn't care about yours if you try to talk. Does not want to do anything to better his life. Oh, he sounds fun, doesn't he? I've witnessed on many occasions him coming home from work and her greeting him with a smile and questioning, you know, how his day was.

46:35And he basically grunts and says to leave him alone. For God's sake. I could probably write a book series about different examples of how he's a terrible match for her and overall a terrible person. I just received a text message today from my best friend of a video of her showing a positive pregnancy test. I was shocked and not sure how to respond being that I am happy for her, but my happiness is limited due to knowing it's with Brian. I also feel like there is a part of her that rushed into getting pregnant so she can be pregnant with me at the same time. you know they've been together for six years and her also saying she does want children but not with brian she said that why all of a sudden does she decide to get pregnant with him yeah so is that maybe what she said in that conversation in california possibly is that she's ready in california in california but not with him yeah i guess but then And, oh, oh, silly.

47:39So part of me feels like she's maybe trying in a sense to steal my limelight. And I feel like my special moment has been taken from me because she is now pregnant too. My mum and grandma think Sarah did this because she wants what I have. Right. Side note, Sarah has mentioned before that she is somewhat jealous of the healthy relationship I have with my boyfriend. Right. And wishes her Brian could treat her like mine does. oh that's sad i could really use some advice on how to navigate this situation am i being selfish in thinking like this or is there an ulterior motive thanks for reading i don't think she did it to steal your limelight i think she did it because she's sad and yes she probably wants what she probably her getting pregnant was probably the only similar thing that could happen to her that would be that so she could have what you have does that what does that make sense and maybe she's sad those where it's like oh this will help our relationship yeah like this will save us yeah this is what he needs and just knowing because i think knowing what you know she said she's unhappy doesn't want to be with him doesn't want to have a baby with him i don't think she would then do that no i don't to steal your limelight i think she's done it because I don't know.

48:57She wants to keep up appearances. Yeah. And I think it's actually really sad that she didn't have the strength or support to, to, to break up with this awful man. That she doesn't really want to be with. That she doesn't want to have a baby with. And maybe she has done it because she's thinking, oh my God. Yeah. Okay. Sarah, she's got pregnant after a year. She's only been with him for a year. We've been together seven years. Like that, like on paper, I should be doing that too. Let's do it. and she's just done it when deep down she knows oh I don't want to have a baby with this man so I don't think it's anything really to do with you Sarah like stealing your limelight or jealousy I think she's just in a really I think she's quite sad I just think she just needs your support at the moment I wouldn't see it as like oh you're trying to kind of one up me because like you know be thankful for what you have Yeah, she's in an unhealthy, happy relationship.

49:54In a happy relationship. Like you're, you know, having a baby. And I think it's beautiful that you're going to have each other. And I think it's amazing that she's got you. Absolutely. Also having a baby. Because you can be that one person that's going to know exactly what she's going through. You're going through it at the same time. It's also beautiful for your kids. Like they're going to be similar ages. Maybe even same school, same friendship groups. Like there's so much that you guys are now going to get to have together. And I think she needs you. She's going to need it. That man ain't going to show her no support, that grunting man.

50:30The grunting man. Like he sounds horrible. Yeah. And it's really sad that she's not felt like she can break up with him. Yeah. Because like. Well, she's probably thinking I've been with him for seven years. I'm 30. I don't want to start again. Yeah. So I'm just going to have a baby. So at least I can do it at the same time as my friend. Yeah. Possibly. Yeah. Maybe it was an accident. Maybe it was like, oh my God, I can't believe it. Yeah. Yeah. But I don't think this is about you. No, I think she needs extra support. Yeah. Because she might be, maybe for the time being, the pregnancy has helped their relationship and maybe he's there in this little excitement bubble and she's thinking, oh my God, this could be the start of something new.

51:12Yeah. For our relationship, I feel like he's changed a bit. He's a bit excited, but we know that he's going to slip back into his old grunting, awful ways. And that's actually sad. We hope that he doesn't. We hope that he doesn't, but chances are a baby doesn't fix a relationship, makes it 10 times worse. Harder. Harder. Harder and worse. Because is that man going to, we don't, obviously we don't know him, but I don't think she's done it out of like stealing the limelight. No, me neither. I think, I think she sees what you've got and she's like, wow. Wants to emulate. I wish I had that really happy relationship and she's trying to emulate it in the best way she can, but she can't really.

51:54And maybe for the time being, like it's appearing happy. Yeah, it's a plaster. And he's like a bit, I don't know, a bit joyer. Is that a word? No. A bit more joyful. A bit more joyous. A bit more joyous. A bit more joyful. Yeah. But it won't last, will it? I don't think so, but we can pray. I would just offer a support right now. Like share your excitement. Like, you know, inside. See, it's an exciting thing. Sarah knows who she's with. She's probably inside having these thoughts of like, hmm, okay, what's this going to be like? I'm going to really struggle. Like, I think she needs more support than ever and more excitement than ever.

52:32Like, I don't think you need to be like, fighting her on it. Oh my God, Sarah, are you sure? Like, she's having the baby. She's pregnant. She's pregnant. I think you need to be like, oh my God, this is the best news. I'm so happy for you. We're going to get to do this together. Like, because that is such a beautiful thing. the first pregnancy we can share this experience together offer support for each other as well see it as a beautiful thing and just see it as a blessing that it's happened at the same time yeah and not that it's a stealing the line competitive situation no because your babies are going to be besties now it's so fun you can take them for walks in the park yeah well good luck to you and Sarah good luck guys I would offer her the most support ever

53:21so sarah here says this is why we're talking about brows my best friend cancelled my birth my 21st birthday celebration for her eyebrow appointment so this lady takes her eyebrows very seriously very seriously as it appears hello gorgeous skills i hope you're having an amazing day. I'm a new, can I speak? I'm a new listener, but have already finished all of your reps. Oh my God, Sarah, be careful. Don't get sick of us. Due to the fact I listened to you for the entirety of my night shifts. Oops. Love that, Sarah. Thank you, Visible. This might be a long one, as I do love to yap, but I think I need to start with some background info.

54:08Me and my best friend, Susan, have been besties for 18 years, since the age of three. Wow. Since conception. Yeah. We met at baby ballet class and have been inseparable for years through our professional dance careers. Oh my God. It's us in another life. It's us in our professional dance lifetime. Oh, I'm so jealous. I am so jealous. That is our dream. No, you're professional dancers. We wish you professional dancers at Swan Lake. Professional dancers at Trin College. Oh, at Elmhurst. I got into Elmhurst. If you know, you know. Oh, if you know, you know. She got into Elmhurst. Did you hear? Did you hear?

54:49Ellie got into Elmhurst. She got to be in the newspaper, didn't she? Yeah. In the leaflet. Yeah, she got into. Did you hear? She didn't get into Elmhurst. Oh, no. But her sister did. The drama. Right. Oh, God. Oh, my God. You guys still were professional dancers. Everyone always knew we came as a pair. Love it. Where one of us was, the other wasn't far. Our mums were so close, too. We used to go for dates, all the four of us. Perfect. To the Ivy. Oh, all the time. After ballet class. Yes. Oh, we're going to the Ivy for dinner. I even had my own bedroom at her house because I was simply a part of the family.

55:25That's insane. That's insane. That's insane. How many bedrooms we got? Wow. I love that. That's insane. Fast forward to the age of 19 when we retired from dance. Oh, you guys. We gave it a go. it happens to the best of us not everyone can be a prima ballerina it's tough we had to hang up our ballet shoes yeah yeah about age 15 16 yeah we hung them up no but they were 19 they were almost there i bet you guys i know you must have a contract yeah or maybe you would did the college and i just thought yeah it's too much it's strenuous you're an athlete maybe one of you had an injury yeah it's it's the hottest ballot and they're very strict very strict you know and they're so strict about your body changing diet and diet it's all too much for a young woman like a lot of pressure and then you know because you're training so you haven't got your period yet you know when you're 18 it's a lot of comparison as well a lot of stress on the environment it is yeah so you know fantastic fast forward to the age of 19 when we retired from dance for susan to do teacher training and for me to start uni lovely wow we obviously had less time to see each other and work and working out meetups became much much harder yeah before you were you had ballet every day yeah same schedule same teachers same world same bubble same life same friends yes over the past couple of years i felt like i've put in 99 of the effort to keep the friendship alive there would be days on end where susan wouldn't reply to my messages and when i'd ask when we could see each of the next i would feel like i'm begging for weeks until i finally got a day out of her i absolutely understand so susan's the one who's gone teacher training yeah and our girl writing in is the uni though i absolutely understand life gets in the way but i always try to make the effort to come from uni and let her know in advance and come up with ideas of things for us to do you know new things a lot of plans that susan would agree to but she'd end up cancelling last minute oh okay that's not good and being overall very flaky okay so this so this eyebrow issue there's a cherry on top hasn't been the first time that she is the final pluck of the hair hasn't been the first time that she's no she has been acting a bit flaky for a while okay interesting yeah I did you think though the birthday is the one time that you're gonna come out and like show face I know it's strange that she you know the birthdays yeah I can't miss the birthday she must be very upset or yeah I'm not really sure um I did speak to her sometimes about how I felt you know about this how I felt a bit neglected by her and that she doesn't really consider me anymore and the answer would always be that she's so so sorry uh I feel like that and that she's just busy but she always has time for her other friends especially her 30 year old friends from her teaching job right okay so she's got a new uh she's got a new world okay I can't have a feel like she's outgroomy and has grown up super quickly due to the fact that she's only surrounding herself with people that are older than her she either goes on holiday with them whoa but when i mention booking a trip it's always oh i'll let you know and then never never does type situation long story short the friendship has fizzled out over the past couple of years which is just really sad to see anyway back in april we planned say about this i know the mums must be mums are probably just like what can we do what we can't get involved but they should back in april the mums on the phone yeah black in april we plan to go to center parks aqua sauna spa oh i love aqua sauna in that one love aqua sauna at center i've been to an aqua sauna once they're beautiful They're stunning.

59:35They're fantastic. So we plan to go to Centre Parcs and to sort a spa. The outdoor jacuzzis. Yes. For her 21st birthday in September. Gorgeous. She never could settle on a date because she didn't know what she was doing around the time. But it's like, if we just say one Saturday, like. It's very flaky. But then you say to other friends, oh, I'm busy on this Saturday. Like, it's like, I'm booked up. Like, whoever got there first, like, you're booked. In my opinion, it sounds like she's always being iffy on plans to wait and see if she gets a better offer from someone else. And what's a better offer than celebrating your best friend's 21st at Aqua Sauna Spa?

1:00:11I agree. It's now the end of August. And after weeks of me asking to book this day in, she penciled in a date. But this morning, oh my God, I receive a text from her. Explaining that she's really sorry and she'll have to cancel the spa. as she's got an eyebrow microblading appointment the day before and cannot get her eyebrows wet for 72 hours after. Well, yeah, she's really, I fear she has found, she's been sitting on what excuse she can use. She's been thinking and thinking. And yeah, you can't get your eyebrows wet. No, you can't. After microblading, right? We've all seen Legally Blonde. It's exactly the same, similar to a perm, isn't it?

1:00:55Yes. Is it laminating? because you can't get your eyebrows. Well, it's like when we get a lash lift. Yeah, you can't get them wet. Like keep them dry. But we don't have to be wet in the spa. Just go, yeah. There are dry rooms. Yeah. There are napping rooms. You could take your book and go and sit in the, we're going to have lunch at the spa. Also. You can still get involved. We're not splashing around. No, we're adults. We're adults. Yeah. You can sit on the edge of the jacuzzi. Maybe don't go in. But also, what's a drop here or there? Okay. Are we being so for real? My mum and my Brian will always tell me that I let people get away with disappointing me far too often.

1:01:36So I finally decided to speak my truth and explain that this has upset me. My reply was this. Quotes. Girl, comma. I find it unfair that this has been a plan for such a long time so we could celebrate my birthday. And I saved up money for it and then it kept getting pushed back and pushed back by you. We finally penciled in a date and you're now prioritizing an eyebrow appointment over it. It makes me sad, really, especially as we've barely seen each other all year, let alone recently. X. Yeah. To the point. Let her know I'm disappointed. Great response. Proud of you. God, this is just going to piss you off more.

1:02:15Then Susan explained she cannot cancel her eyebrow appointment, as is the only time the lady can fit her in before her graduation from teaching school. don't get me wrong I completely understand a good beautician is hard to get a hold of and normally takes booking far in advance to fit you in they do and I also am big on anything beauty and wanting to look your best especially on a big day like her graduation but it's clear she booked this appointment last minute and after our spa plan was made yeah yeah because you said that date yeah we made that plan first surely someone who regularly gets treatments knows to book in advance and so i feel this is just poor planning on susan's part and complete disregard for me and our plans it's too late for us to plan another weekend and i go back to uni the week after the initial plan was in place so that's my birthday plan out the window and the microblading appointment prioritized I'm really big on forgiveness and benefit of the doubt but I fear this is the cherry on top of two years of neglect on Susan's part and I'm not sure where to go from here any advice and words of wisdom are greatly appreciated girlies am I being unreasonable or should I distance myself lots of lugs lugs lugs obviously I've attached pics something's happened you know something has happened I don't know what I think she is it looks like she doesn't want to be your friend anymore.

1:03:50And I'm not really sure. It doesn't seem like you know why. And I don't even know if she knows why, but like we're so far from where we used to be. But the thing is, it's like in a relationship, you can love and love and love and love and love. You don't, it doesn't mean that you get it back. And sometimes you have to realize like, no matter what, I could be the best girlfriend or best friend to this person doesn't mean they're going to reciprocate my energy and i just think you feel rejected by her she's letting you down consistently on your birthday especially when that's not even really an excuse like excuse no don't don't want to get wet like you can be very dry in the spa just don't go in the steam room don't go underwater swimming have gone we have a lovely long three-course lunch at the exactly like we could have just done that dip your toes in yeah go in the whatever like that's not really an excuse so i mean it seems like she's trying to distance herself but i don't really know why is i think she can't i think in her brain she knows you're always going to be there and she's kind of and then she's moved and she's got this new life and she's just prioritizing them and the 30 year olds and her teacher training yeah and she's and she's just put you on the back burner and she's not actually realizing what she's doing.

1:05:11Because she knows, I think she thinks you're always going to be there because of your mum's friends. There's always going to be a link. And like right now, I've got these new exciting friends. Yeah. And she's just, I want to go away with them. Oh, but that weekend, Emma wants to do something. So I'm just going to say about the eyebrows and like, I'll see her, you know, I'll see her at Christmas. And I think she's not taking it seriously. I think it sounds like she doesn't want to be your friend anymore. Yeah. to be honest yeah but then how else do you receive that like I think she's getting caught up with this new life and not realizing who her real friends are to be honest and I do think she'll realize give her six months give it a year it's been two it's true but give it you know something then she'll be like oh my god like what did I do there like she was really there for me and she was expressing how badly she wanted to see me and what why did I not prioritize or get on that train and go see her and do you know what i mean i would do i would just take a step back but yeah right now i think you don't want to fight for people's attention no or friendship or whatever or just presence like you're gonna because even if she can't even if you force her to come to the spa she's not i fear she's gonna be miserable yeah because she doesn't want to be there she doesn't want to be there i think it's been two years now of you trying to keep in contact trying to like make suggestions giving her the benefit of the doubt oh she's busy oh she's she's doing her training for whatever reason she is not really wanting to pour into your friendship right now it doesn't to me it doesn't sound like she wants to be your friend anymore i don't know why but that's what i get from it because you can make new i don't i don't i just don't get why she would be so like i think she's dismissive and passive and like it's like she's trying to fizzle you out it's like phoebe in front friends yeah when they're trying to fizzle someone out and i would just stop like yeah i think she's taking you and your friendship for granted yeah she's got these new exciting friends i think that's what it is but you have to put yourself first and think right well i've tried for two years so i will wait for you to reach out for me and i'll always be here for you because i have been your best friend since baby ballet but right now it's really exhausting and draining for me to be reaching out making plans and getting rejecting yeah you know it's really awful and then at least you know like if you stop reaching out and you stop hearing from her she might switch up right well yeah she didn't want to be my friend you'll even never hear from her again or she might switch up and think oh where's sarah gone and she might actually i don't know but i think she's just being a bit silly right now and not not valuing and seeing the friendship that she has right in front of her and it's just getting really exciting with these new mates who are a bit older she may deem them as cooler because they're a bit older you know yeah I think stuff like that but I also wouldn't try not to be too sad about it like you've had a lovely friendship it's not very lovely anymore like she doesn't make you feel good she doesn't like value you clearly she values her eyebrows more than your birthday like she's not been a good friend to you in recent years like I can't excuse like you know really shitty shitty behavior because six years ago well we had a great time like I think you've done everything you can to be a good friend you've given her so many chances you've forgiven and forgiven you've reached out you've been the olive branch always and I just think like you can sleep at night knowing like well this friendship unfortunately has fallen apart but it wasn't down to me.

1:08:44I tried my best. You don't want to be friends with people who don't want to be friends with you. And maybe this was just one of those childhood friends and now you're not doing the same thing every day and you're not in the same environment. It's no longer working. And if that's, maybe we just have to let it go and it is what it is. And maybe, you never know, when you are 30, 35, you might randomly reconnect and then start this lovely friendship all over again. Like, although it feels like a massive gap at the moment, if you are like lifelong friends, you know, really five years in the middle, it's just a bit of a blip.

1:09:21But it's just because you're in the blip at the moment where it feels massive. But you never know. I'd have every faith that you guys could reconnect when you're like 35. And when you're young and growing and evolving and like early 20s and stuff. It's normal. I think it is normal for friendships too. But it's a shame she can't see the importance of maintaining this friendship. She's not making any of it. But I think she's just making, I think she's just young and she's not seeing the value of this, of the friendship that you guys have. She thinks she doesn't need you. That's what it is. She thinks right now she can take a bit of advantage that she doesn't really need you because she's got these new, cool, exciting friends.

1:09:58Yeah. But what happens when they all get jobs, you know, and she never hears from them again. And then she's thinking, oh, but I had that. Where's my best friend? Oh, oh shit. She tried to see me two years ago and I, you know, made that shit bullshit excuse, you know, and I think she'll realize. And I also would ask the mums. I would say something to my mum. Yeah, I'd say mum. I'd be like, can you ask her what's going on? Yeah. Because she might have an opinion. She's cancelled on my birthday. Yeah, I would ask the mums because they're obviously very close. They know you both very well. You had a bedroom at her mum's house, for God's sake.

1:10:31That's insane. I would just see what you can get. Have a lovely time at Aqua Sauna with your boyfriend or with your mum. don't cancel it please go and enjoy the aquasala I'm thinking she's going with a group no I think it was just them too so the plans have fallen through I think she's saying like it was for them I thought it was like a group no I think it was like when are you free to go to the spa because I'm going to book it yeah oh that's even worse it's like when are you free for us to go that's even worse how she got the balls to cancel that she doesn't want to be a friend anymore no I think that was the final straw That was the final straw.

1:11:10Yeah, you're doing yourself a disservice. It's her loss, Sarah. It's her loss. I'm sure you're a beautiful person. She'll realize. She will realize. Go with your mum. Go with a sibling. Go with a boyfriend. Go on your own. Go with anyone. Like, you'll have a lovely time. Please don't not go. No, still celebrate. Just because of that. Cousin, auntie. Okay, it's time for our star of the week. Woo! And this week we have Niamh writing in. She is saying, I would like to submit my Brian as Brian of the Week because he really deserves it. We got engaged at the end of August. He actually managed to surprise me, which is hard because I am usually the planner.

1:11:45We had finished a lovely meal at Gigi's, one of our favourite spots. Our favourite. And then to my surprise, he whisked me off for a surprise boat tour trip down the Seine and popped the question while the boat was pulled up in front of the Eiffel Tower. Wait, I'm going to, there's pictures attached. I'm going to look at the pictures too. She's saying we've been together for four years. were both 28, kind of thought it might happen soon, but genuinely shocked and surprised he managed to pull off such an amazing proposal. He even wrote me a letter, which I think he got the idea from overhearing me watching the engagement episode where Sophia gave her Brian's kiss and can confirm it's such a special and emotional addition.

1:12:24So thank you so much for sharing. Pixattash! Oh my God, I love it! Look at every single picture. There's like 10 pictures. Oh my God, a whole fiancé. Oh my God, they're so cute! oh my god to sit outside at gg's you lucky things i know and your ring is beautiful oh my god wow honestly you know like the city of love and romance the city of love and that will always be such a special place for you guys congratulations i know i've seen that so cute so lovely thank you so much for sharing well done for taking the tips on well done brian star of the week Blueberry Woo Alright guys Thank you so much For listening If you would like An extra episode Of the podcast You can get one Every single Monday Over on Patreon In the group chat We do two episodes a week Absolutely You can email your dilemmas To hello at thegirlsbathroom.com And your star of the week Submission Yes And you can follow us On Instagram YouTube And TikTok At thegirlsbathroom Please We love you Love you See you next Wednesday Bye Bye

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