Girl Talk: My mum caught the affair on CAMERA!!

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1:14And his whole willy's house, she's sucking it. And then they didn't collect the pictures. And all the staff had this picture of her sucking his willy in the photo booth. Why would you not collect the pictures you must have been out of it? So a few porn star martinis in, you know? So actually, photo booth is a very unhygienic place. That's so true. And, you know, all the sex. So when you get your passport pics, just be mindful, you know? Seriously, always bring your hand son in. You know the drama is never ending. Don't let it get the best of you. Gosh, happy 1st of July. Gosh, gosh. White rabbits.

1:51What does that mean? White rabbits. Me and mum say it on the first of the month White rabbits It's like a good look thing What's the TikTok song that's on the first of the month? Wake up It's the first of the month Ay Ay Ay Ay Clip that for TikTok Yeah, I get it guys Well cheers Social, social, social Cheers We are Best month of the whole year if you ask me Absolutely Not even for purely birthday reasons for myself I do just think it's the best month in the whole world It is, it is, it's warm England is generally This is the peak. This is the month we need to remember to enjoy. This is what I've been working towards all year.

2:29We'll clock in then. I'm clocked in. I'm ready to go. I'm in my crochet. Me and Chincerin are matching Adidas JD tops. Absolutely. Crochet. Get it, get it, get it, get it, get it. We are serving summer girls today, actually. We are. I've got a little bit of summer cargo. Yeah. I've got a white linen. Honestly, I'm just... Dare I say... Congratulations to everyone for making it to July. Our hair's the same length. Yeah. Get it, girl. Woo. Do you not think? Chintz is getting curly extensions. You'll have seen them. Shout out. You'll have seen them by now. I've not yet seen them. I can't wait. Absolutely.

3:00I'm really looking forward to it. Cheers to you. Cheers to you. Cheers to you. Cheers to you guys. Cheers to you. For being in July. Absolutely. Most importantly. Best month ever. Cheers to all of you.

3:14The drink pours. Sweet, sweet goodness. Sweet nectar. On my lips on this finest day. What are you being up to? Then we both went to see Harry Styles. We too. and we all went with all of you guys as well but wow i really i felt like we were back three years ago i was literally like oh my god it felt like it's summer do you know what it was a lovely feeling what it made me realize was is that i associate harry's music with summertime yes like i have such a strong association with certain songs and just like summer and i was like oh my god like this is reminding me and i was like wait it is summer like oh my god it's harry and yeah it just brings me joy yeah me too it did i felt it felt the same and and i quite like the new songs live i really enjoyed them i really enjoyed the new songs like too yeah it was a different look and feel yeah and he was in a little crop top i thought kiss so you backstage yeah it's lovely yeah it's great i saw her in the pit so she was smiling yeah it's great she was it was nice to see them kiss and like have that yeah and have that intimate moment yes i read all the comments and people were like i just gasped like i'd see my boyfriend cheat on me like because actually it's no pda really in well they're just like arms around what's on your hand um this is better tints ah well i put it on my palm to apply to my cheeks but then obviously it stains your your artist palette yeah of course absolutely i thought it was a smoothie No, well I couldn't get it off Unfortunately What a shame I know Well shall we dive into the inbox?

4:54Oh no, what's our question of the week? I don't know Oh I'll do it Let's have a look Absolutely What is our question of the week? Please tell me I did actually watch this thing on Netflix last night You need to watch it Tell me, tell me What's it called? Something about that lady That lady The lady Who faked her pregnancy and then she murdered this lady, her best friend. Watch out. Jogging. That was not a good joke. That's dark. She murdered. It was actually really twisted, really twisted, really twisted. So she faked a pregnancy for 10 months. Shit. And then she had to get a bit - Her whole world.

5:34To her family, her boyfriend, friends. And then she ended up cutting out this baby from her best friend's belly and killing her and the baby and now she's on death row. It was crazy. Happened in 2020. I don't want to watch that. Yeah. It's all right. Well, I've just told you the whole story anyway. Okay. But yeah. I've been watching Clarkson's Farm. Nice. Love it. Have the cows been having any babies? Any pigs? Where I'm up to, no. Where I'm up to at the moment, at the moment in episode three, Jeremy is wanting to modernize the farm. So he's gone to, he took Caleb to Holland. What? Or no, Bruges, where we've been.

6:13Oh, Bruges. and yeah went to see the modern technology farms and it was Caleb's first time Oh it's for technology Yeah of the new machines Oh in my head it was like interior design No I was like all new sofas New carpets Yeah New drapes I was like all new kitchen No the machines And it was Caleb's first time leaving the UK Wow Yeah he was a bit nervous Is this the new ones then? Yeah this is season five Oh shit I'm not up to date Yeah I love it I think it's just great TV Easy watch lovely watching tv right our question oh i've got another t uh recommendation i've not watched it myself but i've heard very very good reviews from people in my life project hail mary ryan gosling space film oh i didn't know that we're didn't have not heard of it was in the cinemas it's coming to it's come on like tv really quickly apparently it's amazing space film ryan gosling yes tv soon sign me up it's coming to tv it's on tv now they get to know yeah it's been watched Amazon Prime.

7:12It's Amazon or Netflix, one of the two. And another thing got a full recommendation today. I actually started watching it. Another recommendation. A few people in my life have enjoyed it. J-Lo's new rom-com called Office Romance. Oh, okay. It's on Netflix. Okay. It's on Netflix. I started watching it. I think I watched about half an hour. I had to go to bed because it was late. Absolutely. But I was like, do you know what, J-Lo? Like this is, I'm going to watch, continue watching this. She's always been able to act. She's always done a good rom-com as well. She can act, that lady. So, yeah, Schiaparelli.

7:49Have you seen that clip of her? No. Schiaparelli. I've not seen that. When she was at the Met Gile, I was like, who are you wearing? She was like, Schiaparelli. Have you not seen her? Okay. Right. Okay, shout out. Shout out. I've not listened. I've not watched the whole thing. Like, I don't know if I can, you know, really give it a stamp of approval. but the half an hour that I watched I thought yeah not bad JLo I just remember that other rom-com she was in recently do you remember a couple years ago Marry Me or something yes that terrible with that blonde man oh I like him yeah and we like him Owen Wilson yes and it was shit wait we watched that on tour no with Grace did we I feel like we did I feel like we did on the bus yeah that was so shit and we were did we we watched it together yeah we did We must have been somewhere.

8:39We must have been somewhere. We were desperate for something to watch. Do you know what a really good film of hers is? The Backup Plan. Yes. That was good. Yes. Made in Manhattan, that classic. But Backup Plan was one of her newer ones. Like it wasn't Made in Manhattan days. It was past, it was 2000s. Shout out. Yeah. And she was in that stripper film. Hustlers. Yeah. I don't know if I rated that that much. But she did a good performance on the pole. Oh, she's always been able to act. Jenny from the block. Jenny from the block. what does she say that she gets from the oh orange soda if you know you know and what is it a roll get the orange drink the roll with the you gotta get the

9:24what is it though you gotta get the breakfast roll yeah I don't know what it is oh for the bodega for the bodega with the orange drink if you gotta get the orange drink on the New Yorkers no for the orange drink Yeah, you gotta get that orange drink. Shout out Jennifer Lopez. Sorry about your breakup from Ben Affleck. I know. Did you see the interview about off campus? No. Always bad things happening behind the scenes. No, no, no, no, no. About J-Lo. J-Lo. She's not trying to get involved this year. So you know how it's like, oh my God, it's me. When Ali is dressed as J-Lo. Oh, yes. and the JLo I saw them together no is that what I saw no no the JLo is being interviewed like oh so your new record your sorry not your new record your old record is back in the charts oh was it in the charts yeah on the floor yeah classic on the floor it's like back in the charts did we dance I think we might have yeah was that like a warm up song Brazil Morocco London to Africa sorry straight to anyway that was our warm up song JLo is saying she's going yeah because Because when I heard Jenny, Jenny, Jenny, I thought, oh my God, it's me, it's me.

10:41No, wrong song. And then they played it on the floor as well. I was like, oh my God, it's me, it's me, it's me. So she thinks, Jenny, Jenny, Jenny, Jenny is about her. It's about her, yeah. She doesn't know Jenny, Blackpink. Blackpink exists. Oh, on a rock with Jenny. Oh no. She was like, yeah, I heard the Jenny, Jenny. And I thought, oh my God, this is me, this is me. Oh, Jennifer. Yeah, and everyone was like, oh, wrong song. well not let her get on with it let her get on with it let her get on with it right question orange drink with an orange drink speaking of orange drink where is the weirdest place you use the toilet we use a lot of the ocean a lot in the ocean yeah regular trips down to the sea regular trips for a wee in the sea we were just the tea was the i mean i would wee in the sea anyway but the toilet was like right at the top of the cliff yeah i think it was like come on just Popping the wee for a C.

11:34We were just going a few. A dip in the pool, a trip to the spa. Yeah, a couple steps down. Lower the tush. Easy. Okay. I've had a lot of nature wees. I had a nature wee the other day. It's quite freeing. It probably is good for you. Yeah, once you get a bit of confidence with it, it's really quick and really easy. Yeah, connect with the earth. You know? Mother nature. Bring it all back round full circle. Very avatar. Yeah, release your juices into the nature. It'll be quite nice. so where's the weirdest place you've had away super noodle pot nice ah yes okay we'd be able to aim into that oh defo defo a vase in my bedroom whoa whoa whoa whoa okay that's gonna to kill the plants.

12:22Unaccessible. A wok. Okay. Okay. Wow. We're really doing like the utensil vibe, aren't we? Are we at a festival? Possibly. Is a toilet unaccessible? Bathroom sink. Yeah. That's pretty appropriate. Yeah. It's classic from Bridesmaids. But you know, if you can't, if you're in the bathroom. If you're managing to get up to the sink, someone must be on the toilet. Someone must be on the toilet. Yeah. Did you have to sit on the toilet at the same time as your sibling? No. I've never been put through that night. What, two bums in one toilet? Yeah. So what was going on that household? We're both moaning that we both need a wee, so we both have to sit on at the same time.

13:02And would Fiona help you? She'd make us sit on it together. Okay. Because it'd be like, no, you can't go first. I need a wee. One toilet. So it was only fair. So we have to go half, yeah. I understand that. Two bums on the seat. Fiona, if that's what you had to do to help you, you know, to parent, that's absolutely fine. Yeah. I don't think often, but I do have a core memory of being sat on the toilet. I remember when we can both fit on here I just remember when Lydia pooed in the bath and it was pebbles and I picked them up Cocoa box yeah and it was just like lots of brown bowls in the bath and she pooed in the bath firm yeah constipated getting constipated we've got here my cat's litter box fair enough yeah fair enough fair enough there's worse places it gets rid of the odour soaks it up doesn't it it's very clean tampon bin tampon bin so like like in a in a public toilet but like the specific tampon bin i'll tell you maybe you were drunk and you were in the cubicle with your friend and your friend was on the toilet and then the tampon bin was there yeah i had a bad experience with the tampon the other day oh would you like to hear it yeah so they have these tampons at my gym which is oh fantastic and just really lovely amazing um and i was in need i was like wow i'm so thankful for this bin that's being put here.

14:21It's really lovely. They had the super ones. So they're big. Big paper. Right, yes. Better for the environment, let's say. But it scratched the shit out of me. And I was like, this is so fucking painful. It is catching and jagging every fucking step of the way. And I was like, I have no choice. It's like, come on, like I need to do this. I then got it all the way where it's supposed to be and it wouldn't push. And I was like, fuck. These paper wands. It wasn't going. It wasn't going. The function wasn't functioning. Because you know what you have to be aware. I thought I can't take this out and do this again.

15:08Sometimes the paper wands, they're already stick, like the, you know, the things that keep, they're already like that. So that's what's going to scratch. Scratch you all the way up. Scratch, scratch, scratch, scratch. And I just thought, oh, give me a Tampax pill, please. I know, but then bad for the environment. And I appreciate the gyms offering the freebies. I know. But like, wow. I know. Painful that was. Well, sometimes I have to abort in that instance. I had to. Yeah. I had to. Because I couldn't get it up. And I thought, I cannot open another one and do this again. Look, where was your nappy when you needed it?

15:37I haven't used those nappies since you got me onto them. I'll buy you a pack. They're the best. Are you buying those every month? No. I think, because I'm only using them at home. It's summertime. time i can't walk around with a big sopping wet in my white linen trousers a big black nappy with blood in it like hanging low like that's not cute so i'm only using them i'm using them at home in the evenings right so maybe i'm doing about just three a term a term absolutely a cycle so i've still got a pack okay i think i had a pack of like 10 12 yeah so it's not every month because i'm not wearing them you know but lovely for bed oh breach you know where else have we been for a week we've got my great uncle's fireplace interesting maybe it's christmas time yeah a bit of extra fuel on the oh yeah wait will urine it's not fun well is it i think urine's gonna kill a fire yeah yeah me too um a coffee cup in the car yeah yeah yeah i look i understand that in the middle of a proud at Peggy Goo.

16:42Just streaming down your legs. Well, maybe she's squat. Maybe she's squat. It's just like, yeah, just got a pair of knickers and just shake it out. Outside Knott's BBC building. Know it well. We've been in there. Knott's BBC building. Off that roundabout. We've been in there on a school trip. We actually have. Wow, it must have been a night out situation early out of the morning. Number two, in the rapids of a river. It got pushed downstream to a group of people. Oh, you were in a public A river, not like Centre Parcs Rapids or something. God, they're great rapids. A club photo booth. Have I? In the corner like that.

17:20Do you know what there is in... I've seen this picture from this photo booth. It was in Manchester. Have I not told you about this? No, Lydia sent it in. Of that girl sticking that guy's dick. Yes, you told me this. This was a while ago, right? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But you've seen the picture. So basically, there's this photo booth in Manchester. This is a while ago. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's a photo booth in Manchester. I'm sure you've showed me. Yeah, Lydia Senter. Yeah. And there was some people worked at the bar or whatever. And this couple went into a photo booth and she was sucking his willy in the photo booth.

17:51And they took all pictures of it. And his whole willy's out. She's sucking it. And then they didn't collect the pictures. And all the staff had this picture of her sucking his willy in the photo booth. Why would you not collect the pictures? You must have been out of it. so a few porn star martinis in. So actually, photo booth is a very unhygienic place. That's so true. And you know, so when you get your passport pics, just be mindful, you know? Seriously, always bring your hand sign in. My mum's plant. Nice. At least you're giving it some water. Oh no, the plant's died. Surely we'll help it now.

18:28A padded bra at my ex's parents' house. Okay, large cup. Acting as a bowl almost. Yeah. A Lay's Crisp Packet. Fair. Stanley Cup. Yeah, nice. Shout out. My husband's bucket hat at Glastonbury. Yeah, desperate times. Sainsbury's Toilet Sink. Nice. The front beer garden of my local pub. Nice. Be careful in your local. Yeah. Don't want to shit where you eat, you know? That's true. Right, is it word game time? Oh God, anxiety just hit. It's word game time. I'm calling it I'm calling it this episode we need to at least call each other out twice okay because you've not called me out once yeah because I'm I'm distracted I'm trying to give advice but I'm gonna lock in I'm locked in even if it's false we need to call out yeah I'm gonna win let's got it confidence is key with this game absolutely take a deep breath and we're gonna call each other out yeah I've got this just be bold and be brave be bold and brave Bold, brave and beautiful Easy Got it in the bag Sorry I think Okay I think that's part of my vocab This is a tricky game you see I think that's part of my vocab Because The easier the word The easier it is to slot in But then the harder it is to detect it Yeah That's the whole point The harder the word The easier it is to spot To spell, yeah We've just got to I've just got to hope that you forget all about it and you're away with the fairies but I think have you seen your word?

20:09yeah I've seen it don't worry about maybes this is fighting talk

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24:14just before we get into it quick disclaimer just as we are not doctors we are not professionals we do not actually know what we are talking about this is a light-hearted space okay don't take what we say literally because we could be wrong yeah and if there's anything serious if there's anything you feel like you're seriously struggling with please contact a gp a professional because that is not us we're just girls girls and boys just like you we're just trying to get through life as well not professionals enjoy the episode okay right girl talk dilemma number one we've caught something on a camera perhaps some cctv love that my best friend is having an affair with our co-worker and i caught it on camera okay nice see lydia's got logins to my furbo now so she ah she's got eyes in my home yeah I thought it was quite a good safety thing Yeah Just in case Yeah You know Yeah absolutely Because I've been sent around to your house a couple of times Yeah just in case there's an intruder Because she gets alerted when there's a human It's like they're both spotted a human She sees a man in there Whoa For context This is my mum's dilemma Okay So it's written from her perspective Right right right She told me about this situation And I knew you girls would be able to help so my mum's best friend Sarah wow so this is the mum's advice wow this is crazy wait so the mum's in the mums are having the problem gosh and you just think mums know it all don't you yeah here they are I saw this thing I took it this morning and it said that giving birth here we go yeah is comparable to like the feeling of like becoming a werewolf oh yes yes yes like that yes and I was like they say that like that's what pregnancy is like like you feel in the night like your back expanding and like your hips expanding sophie habu said that really said that i feel like a werewolf at night i just inconceivable like that's just like opened all my like my whole mind crazy and it's just like yeah i've heard that a couple times a werewolf a werewolf because you are like you are spreading.

26:33That is insane. Yeah, but like also giving birth it's like you know when it's like turning into the world. You know, you would know Twilight. Absolutely, yeah. They ain't giving birth though. That's the boys, you know. They're just they leap and they change. Yes, yes, yes. But they go like, you know. Was a werewolf your word? No. Don't you worry about me? Tick for one call out. Ah. Ah, easy peasy. Okay. Right. So the mother is in need in the workplace. Yes. So my mum's bestie, Sarah, who she works with, is having an affair with their co-worker, Brian. Okay. Both parties are married, but Brian has kids.

27:17So this is a proper adult grown-up. The mothers of the world are still dealing with workplace romance. Oh yeah, because I would say - And workplace wives. This is when those like hard, like, you know, like in their 50s, This is when these affairs start to happen. They've got kids, they're like teenagers, the kids. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's like, now we're having affairs. Yeah, and it's not just like, not that it's any better, but it's not like a workplace snog. It's like double life affair. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Shit. Okay, so let's take it back to the beginning. A few months ago, I noticed fleeting looks and glances between the two of them, but thought nothing of it and thought it was just flirty banter.

27:58Sarah is unhappy in her relationship But staying due to financial stability But Brian has only recently got married And has always acted like his relationship is perfect So Brian's a newlywed Recently got married Brian's a newlywed That's just so Oh my god how petrifying is that? That was until about four weeks ago When Brian started telling us how unhappy he is That his wife is always moaning at him Well Brian if you pick up your own fucking boxes I'm sure she wouldn't have to moan at you If you had some initiative, Brian. It all seemed really out of the blue. Oh, God. I tried to give him advice, but noticed Sarah was very quiet, nodding along like she'd heard it all before.

28:38Of course. Yeah, of course. I also noticed Sarah was constantly on her phone texting. Wow, he's sharing these things. And also, like, 50-year-olds aren't on their phones like that. They're not, like, doom scrolling like that, you know? They're not glued to their phones like that. She's trying not to give any signs. So the easiest thing is to. Her partner isn't the type to message during the day. And she's told me this. So I knew it couldn't be him. Yeah. And let's just say the smile on her face gave it all away. Oh wait. So she's just texting all day. And she's probably texting Brian. Yeah. Right.

29:14Cause. Oh yeah, you're not texting your husband. She's like this. Yeah. And you're looking at her thinking, what are you doing? Fuck. Shit. Using my woman's gut instinct. I knew something was definitely going on. Oh my God, this woman is a fucking genius. I set my phone to record and left the room. I don't even know what I was expecting, but this was not it. This is so high tech for the mums. Like seriously, shout out. You've got a daughter who's like our age. I don't think my mum would have the foresight to think she wouldn't even know how to record on her phone. So this is fantastic. And like, if I worked in the, if I worked in a workplace, this is my dream.

30:00Yeah. This, I mean, this is gold dust. Awful, but this would get me up every day. That's getting me in that office on time. Like, this is amazing. Not, but you know what I mean. I caught them. So I don't even know what I was expecting to find. So we've got this audio memo. But this was not it. I caught them talking about their situationship. Brian described it as a bad habit To which Sarah replied and said But some bad habits can be good Let's just say I was gobsmacked I also heard that they sent each other explicit images And Brian Eww Brian even had to relieve himself Whilst at home with his wife Eww this is horrifying horrifying what the fuck so he's like oh you sent me that pic and that's going wank one out wait what's your favorite line beat one out that was it i'm gonna have to go beat one out what do i do they don't know that i know and i'm finding it hard to act like i don't know yeah i'm also worried for sarah because brian's wife is crazy shit well they've just got married as well this is horrifying and he has kids i've tried to tell myself they're both grown adults they know what they're doing and the risks behind it just watch it unfold but knowing brian has kids and an unsuspecting wife that has no idea he could be breaking up his family keeps me up at night.

31:45What do I do? Do I talk to Sarah and tell her I know? Or do I just mind my own business? I'm very concerned bestie and daughter. So yeah, this is your best friend. Actually, go on, just say. I keep thinking it's her colleague and it's just like the colleague thing, but actually this is your close friend. Right? I've got an idea. Okay. Or do we just like watch it unfold, bit of entertainment? and sit back and relax. And just, but then, you know, it's just gonna... I think maybe you should keep gathering evidence. Keep gathering evidence because what you've gained so far has been insightful. But I'm worried that she might deny and try and play off what you've got so far.

32:30Yeah, it's just flirt. It's flirt. And a joke. And like, oh no, it didn't mean that. No, no, you've got that out of context. Maybe try and get some more evidence. like keep keep doing what you're doing you know leave your phone there on record very unsuspecting absolutely and gather some try and gather some harder evidence and then present it to her say to her like look i know what's going on see how honest she is with you and then you can be like i've actually got the receipts i've got this recording and she's gonna die because what you say right now i feel like she's just gonna be like oh no that wasn't no you've got that wrong like no that wasn't me i wasn't talking about me like she's gonna try and twist it to be like no no no you've got that wrong or she's gonna crumble because there'll be a point where this where this it's gonna get too much the pressure oh yeah it's gonna start falling in love with him yeah and then it's gonna be crunch time and she's gonna be like right we'll break up with your wife and he's gonna say no yeah and then this that's when it just they're both married aren't they yeah it's a different i know like this is what it went you know there'll be a moment where she's like right oh i'm ready to leave my brian yeah are you ready to leave sarah and he's like no oh that is i think you either call her out now and be like look i know what you're doing i'm a safe space you can talk to me you can confide in me like let's sort this out because this is a bit mental now and like this is not you've got to think about his family and his wife and you see the boss no i think it's just that's good then at least he's not the boss or yeah you're like do you know what like you're both adults you both know what you're doing like it's not my business i'm not going to get involved like you do you like whatever like you're making your own choices i'm not i'm not your mom but i've not got to take care if it will make you feel better sarah let sarah know that you know and it's kind of like that relief of like i've let her know i know yes whatever like just that you know you're not having to tell the wives and the husband but just letting her know that you know yes so that she wants to talk and like get some things off her chest like let's do that because if you say to her like look i know what's going on yeah she can't really do that you're like i know what's going on like i i literally know what's going on You can talk to me about it But I'm letting you know I've got fucking eyes And I've got fucking ears Yeah And I've got phones That can record Dot dot dot Yeah And you're fucking giggly You know I've heard it all God Messy messy messy We can't be dealing with that With my mums I know I know But it just shows The drama never ends The drama never ends The drama is never ending Well it's just like Don't let it get the best of you guys Don't let it get the best of you Guys don't let it get the best of you Well it's just like Reminds me of David Lloyd Westbridgeford all kicking off all kicking off all the ladies of age all the ladies of age and do you remember that girl we knew and she had an affair on the desk in the office all I know is the fans exist you know we've learnt a lot actually of recent months what have we learnt in recent months just about promiscuous men this message is brought to you by today's sponsor Walden University set a course for change Now is the time to make a real change in your life, career, and community.

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36:50From the school. The school. Right. Your team. Dilemma number two. Should I make amends or keep the past in the past? Hmm. Hmm. Cryptic. Hmm. Let's see each. Hi, girls. Let me start off by saying I'm a massive fan of the pod and YouTube channel. I've been a part of the girls' bathroom since 2020. Thank you, Sarah. Long time. Thank you, Sarah. I live vicariously through you while I work nine to five in PR. Hashtag corporate. Love it. Hashtag corporate. Look, PR is cool. PR baddies, corporate baddies. PR is so cool. Also, congrats on all your progress with Rooms. Thank you. Thank you. As a PR girly, I know you're doing amazing.

37:31thank you hashtag pr hashtag thanks thank you sarah this dilemma in particular has been on my mind for over six years fucking hell sarah six years what's been going on we've been procrastinating way too long let's sort this out for some context i joined joined a new sixth form in 2018 okay i'm turning 20 24 now with a completely fresh slate that's quite nice that's quite nice i think I think I would have enjoyed that. With no friends and tons of new people. Because also with six forms, the thing is with six forms is a lot of people already have their existing friend groups. If you're coming new into six form, that's really brave.

38:12You know, because everyone's like 17. Gosh. Gosh. Sometimes I forget we went to school. I know. It's a blur, isn't it? It's crazy that like, that was our whole life. Yeah. And now. It is actually crazy. It's like, eh? Like I can't even remember it. Yeah. But like in the days I remember those days being like this is never ending. This is my whole life. I'm gonna be in school forever and ever and ever. Yeah. And you know. Like life is school. School is life. That was it. Yeah. All we knew was revision, revision, revision. All we knew. Right. Was that your word? Revision? Ah! She's called me out.

38:58I'm just trying to play the game. You've not said anything that I could call out, to be fair. That's because I've already said it. Have you actually? If you call me out, you might know. I'm just playing on my own over here. She's pulling my... You're pulling my bluff. You're calling me bluff. What's that? Or is that... Or am I? You're bluffing.

39:23Right. So, I joined a new sixth one with a fresh slate. With no friends, lots of new people One girl in particular became my close friend She stuck by me through distant boyfriends and troubles of growing up From 2018 to late 2019 we were extremely close The type of friend to hold your hair back whilst you're throwing up We all need him, that's nice She could have been the Sophia to my chintzia In theory, at age 16 we were sat in a travel agent trying to plan our first holiday together. 16? Yeah. Yeah, you can go away at 16. Wow. Oh, is that a bit young? Look at you girls. You're not 16 in sixth form.

40:11You are. If you're young, you would have started it at 16. Right? Yeah. Yeah. You just sound so young, but you feel so old. Like it's fucking mental. So we're planning our first holiday together and always put each other first. sleepovers every weekend basically calling my mom her auntie throughout sixth form we were known to come as a duo we look quite similar with long blonde hair and both fairly basic in appearance she is a baddie though however i noticed that she began to copy me my style my voice my mannerisms even my music taste and hobbies sometimes do you think that is so part and parcel being a best influence it's like we buy that so i'm gonna buy that too you're doing all the same stuff i'm gonna eat that too yeah that's part of the experience part of the package being a duo i think it's bonding as well you know it's part of the package it's definitely just something that happens we're drinking the same drink it's got the same top on it's definitely just something that happens isn't it definitely i i think that's the beauty of friendship yes it is morphing into each other yeah losing your identity i think it's really sweet i'm lucky she didn't go bruna yeah i think it's nice i think it's part of it it's part of it but she's obviously feeling specifically like you're copying me and it's yeah and it's never like your take it's always she's copying you.

41:46It's not vice versa. It's not like, copy this, copy this, copy this. Yes, yes. Yeah. That's interesting. It's also just interesting that you are feeling like you're copying me. And not like, oh my God, yeah, same. Let's get this, let's get this. Not wanting the same. Yeah. You know. Interesting. Very interesting. So everything, music, taste and hobbies. I was fine with this. But after a while, it became irritating. As sometimes individuality is all you have. i know girl yeah tell me about it as a self-conscious person you could say this would have made my like would have been a confidence boost but it just made me feel basic right because you want my individuality okay okay since being friends however she basically merged into my clone people would say they loved how funny she had become but for me it became tiring because it seemed she was just recycling my jokes recycling your old material Okay.

42:45Oh, okay. Okay, so you're really noticing this. Yeah, it's bugging you. I fear we are - It's not just clothes, it's like - I'm worried that we're actually verging into frenemy zone here. Well, because it's going to become resentment from our Sarah's part. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then it's, this is just, yeah. And then it's stealing boys. That's when it gets to now friend ruining things, isn't it? It's like, oh, well, I fancy Matt. Yeah. What do you mean you fancy Matt? Well, I've heard that he fancies me. Yeah. And it's like, this is friendship. I said it first. This is friendship. We'll run a one.

43:18One on one. One on one. One on one. It's friendship. Right. Okay. And it sounds like it's irritating to ask Sarah. Because everyone's like, Helen is so funny. I love her top. That's so great. You're thinking that's my top. Helen's so fucking funny. You're like, that was my joke. Yeah. That was my material. That was my material. So, she says it's tiring. This sounds like a classic case of jealousy But honestly I would be fine with her being praised as hilarious If I didn't have to listen to her copy everything about me So we started growing apart late 2019 And in early 2020 we fell out The trouble is after all this time I can't remember why we fell out From memory it was Sometimes it be like that Yeah From memory it was because It was six years ago as well Yeah From memory it was because I couldn't make her birthday party as I had my boyfriend's dad birthday on the same day, which was a tough decision.

44:15Boyfriend's dad. Okay, look, I can understand in the moment, your boyfriend's your life, your everything. You don't want to let your boyfriend down. But also, it's his dad. Yeah, it's his dad. Who cares about his dad? No offense to the dad. It might have been a situation. We don't know the details. Yeah. Okay. Okay, so that, okay. She hadn't been in a relationship, so didn't understand my struggle. I did try and organise something after, but she didn't want to reconnect after this, which was weird because I did apologise incessantly. This hard... Good word. Yeah, I was waiting for you to call me out, but she didn't.

44:52This hard stop to our friendship meant that there was no closure, almost like being ghosted by a friend. Yeah, it's surprising that you couldn't work through it. But yeah, if it was the final straw, it was the final straw. And then I'm thinking COVID then here, and it's like we can't see each other anyway. yeah we're having a bit of space and then i've kind of just got used to not speaking to you like we're not planning to go out of the weekend because we can't yeah so in 2021 i saw her in weatherspoons okay we barely spoke and it was extremely awkward but it was so weird seeing someone who i was so close with almost ignore me yeah it's hard fast forward to 2022 2023 2024 and 2025 we always leave comments on each other's instagrams so we're kind of being friendly now.

45:39Like each other's stories, your message every two years about how we should meet up. There's almost a sense of yearning for each other back. Longing, you could say.

45:54Longing's not the word. The trouble is now I have this longing for a friendship. A yearning. A yearn. I've already said yearn.

46:11that no longer exists. She lives local. So you are actually thinking we could reconnect this. She lives local to me. But since going to uni for three years and working in London for another three years, I feel like I've grown beyond my small town and will probably have nothing in common. I mean, a coffee doesn't sound like a bad... I feel like we can have a coffee. What's friends over a cappuccino? You know, a little blank street trip, a little janky trip, little perfect head can yeah there you go from what i remember she's quite an awkward person and doesn't do that much besides work however is it worth is it worth me reconnecting with her and being persistent about meeting up am i missing out on a blossoming friendship or am i just beating a dead horse i hate that i know that's real she has just broken up with her long-term boyfriend and i think she could use a friend right now yes the sadness i get when i see her is like a weird nostalgia from our friendship it just goes to show that friendship breakups can be just as bad as real ones i've been with my brian for six years we have for the six years we have not been friends okay but i don't feel the same towards my any ex just towards her so you're really longing for her it is different with friendship yeah will i just make things more awkward if i reach out help me girls do i chase my ex personally lots of love you're both in london i think you know matcha you know get a matcha yeah go grab a smooth yeah like you can like go see her see see what it's like if it was weird fine lovely to catch up felt like old times never see her again yeah i think that's fine you're not signing up to be a best friend again it is difficult when it's like oh like you just kind of you had that fallout obviously on your end it was like a few things have been happening over the years that was kind of starting to annoy you then you had that whole birthday thing and then it was like oh now she called the shots there yeah and then i'm assuming yeah like covid i don't know it is it is really sad that you it just sort of stopped but then part of me is like did it stop for a reason like you don't really sound like her biggest fan like she annoyed you like you felt like she was copying you all the time like it sounds like she frustrated you a bit yeah so yeah but you think with six years was a bit of growth like think we were at school yeah we were just figuring ourselves out yeah she probably really admired you thought you were so cool you were cool and like she didn't really feel like she had an identity right then so then that's when she was copying you but it's been six years without you and she's probably really grown and developed her own style and personality yeah and interest and interests and hobbies and stuff and it might be interesting to see.

48:50I think it's always really nice when you see an old friend and it's like no time has passed and it's like, whoa, this is crazy. Like it's literally like I saw you yesterday. It might heal your inner child of sorts. Yeah, it might do. Or yeah, it's going to be a case of like, let's meet up, let's go for a coffee. Like, okay, that was fun. Like I've kind of remembered why we fell out. Like that's it. That can be all it has to be. Like it doesn't, you're not - Meeting up for a coffee doesn't mean that you're signing up to be best friends again. Exactly. exactly like you might you might well end up in each other's lives again but it might just be in a slightly different capacity you might not be like joint at the hip like you were you might just be like oh yeah i see each other every now and again like i think it's beautiful i am always up for getting in contact with old friends like i've had it before with people who i used to work with like and now i'll see them occasionally oh my god this is so fun like we lost touch for a couple years but like now we're back and like we message but i've never fell out with someone and then drifted and then got back in touch i feel like the fall out at like the age of like 17 like think how old like six years is oh so we're 24 now yeah and we felt like when we were teenagers like i feel like time has passed time has passed and growth has been growing and i do think if you i don't think you would be feeling like this for no reason yeah like this is a girl that's a friendship that's always kind of been on your radar and you've always kind of thought like oh I wonder what that would be like.

50:13Like, I think you should just go for it. Me too. And also friendships can ebb and flow, literally like that. Like, oh, we were close in school then. Yeah, we were, and now we're back. Yeah, so normal. And that is fine. It's very normal. So I think, go for it. I think the fact that you're being really lovely and friendly on social media with each other. It's a really good sign. Yeah. That shows that she's not holding anything against you. No. And you're not against her. Yeah. I think, go, go grab a matcha. Have a little date. Yeah. A little after, just like on a lunch break. Yeah, very casual. You know, so it's not like you can have somewhere to be afterwards so you can keep it short and sweet.

50:47And then you might have another longing for each other and then you can meet up again. Yeah. But I think it'd be a shame because of how you feel. Like you feel quite strongly about it. I think it's nice.

51:09my best friend is forcing me to invite her new boyfriend to my wedding no boyfriend is coming to i mean i'm not getting married for 10 years but no boyfriend is coming to my wedding what about yours what about yours

51:26um no she says noach a boyfriend of a year no sorry yeah that's fair a boyfriend of a year no because like well actually well actually i'd have to know the boyfriend like whatever yeah like have i had fun with this man do i have this man's number do i do i know this man Or do you have your own relationship with this man? Exactly, yeah. I think that's probably... It's like no new boyfriend who you don't know. Who I especially don't know, yeah. Right. My girls love the pod. Listen every week. Wow, she's diehard. Yeah, absolutely. I'm hoping you'll be able to help with my dilemma involving one of my best friends.

52:14Just a little context. I have two best friends, Helen and Susan. We are a trio and have been best friends for over a decade. Wow. Helen. Congrats. That's lovely. Helen knows the owner. Helen knows the owner. Because sometimes three can be a crowd. Helen hasn't always been the most present. Sometimes she's difficult to get a hold of. But when we are all together, it feels like nothing has changed. Lately, the situation with Helen has gotten worse. She got into a bit of a whirlwind relationship at the end of last year. Susan and I have met her new boyfriend, Steve. So she's got a new boyfriend, Steve, as of the end of last year.

52:53Okay. He seems nice. Great. That's good news. They seem very in love. Great. More good news. To the point, I'm struggling to recognize her. Right. No, but does she mean in a good way? Does she mean like... I don't think so. She's bringing out the best in her. She's so happy now. She's like a new girl in front of me. you know what my instinct is it's ursula when she brings that man back right and she's just faking our whole life and it's like you're not being truthful with him when ursula pretends to be um no when yeah when ursula's like i work in the i want to help the children in africa when she brings out that new boyfriend i'm picturing little mermaid ursula no is it Phoebe's sister called Ursula yes she is yes yes yes you know when she brings that new boyfriend around to meet Phoebe of course of course and she's like saying she doesn't smoke she's having cigarettes she teaches the kids and he's like well we both built the the schools one village apart um so she's saying she isn't telling us about important life stages moving in with Steve opening a joint bank account etc this has already happened she's not told you that she's moved in with him and think she just met him end of last year and they've already got a joint bank account we found out because he brought it up in conversation and when we questioned helen about it she just said i'm sure i told you right he didn't susan and i feel like our friendship is very unbalanced she isn't putting in the same effort we are putting in and it's becoming very exhausting she talks a lot about her and steve and a part of me is writing this off as the honeymoon phase of relationship but time but as time goes on i'm finding it harder to believe she sees a hat so so they got together in december december january february march april may june july eight months july's month number seven okay yeah so seven months so it's it's harry and um zoe because they've been eight months harry and zoe how about they've made no they don't think they've got a joint bank account have they no i don't think so well they've both got a lot of money yeah that would be a bit crazy so she seems happy and all i want for her is to be happy but it's getting to the point where it is damaging our friendship because i'm not seeing much interest from her right helen and susan a brides who's getting married oh i'm getting married i think helen and susan a bridesmaid i am getting married next year i've been finalizing the guest list here we go I see where this is the guest list to send or save the dates and I sent Helen a message to say that due to numbers and budget Steve won't be able to come to the ceremony but we will invite him to the reception if there's anyone that can't make it to the ceremony then there will be space for him I think that's fair that's so fair that is so fair it's more than I would do number one I've met him what three to a handful of times he's still gonna he seems nice and there's definitely gonna be someone who's not gonna be able to make it to the party and he can call.

55:56And also like that's still an invitation. Yeah. I think that's really fair. I think that's really fair as well. I actually think you're being really fair there. Me too. I thought you just weren't inviting him. That's really fair. That's so fair. Is it fair your word? Yes. Right. Okay. Yeah. I think you're what that's you've tried to you've offered a suggestion you're not like completely shunning him. I think that's great. Right. But she's not happy about this, I'm imagining. I'm assuming. Mind you. I've been incredibly strict with my guest list. Some of my family aren't coming. Childhood friends who I haven't seen in a while, etc.

56:39Unfortunately, I've had to make some harsh decisions. The only people that are invited to the ceremony are people who are involved in my life and people I care about. Too right. I have expressed to Susan and Helen how stressed the guest list is making me. Note that Susan doesn't currently have a partner So she has no plus one When I sent this message Especially I think you're being so fair Especially in a situation like this Where it's like I'm not inviting you on your own Like you know everyone at this wedding You know me You're the best mates here You know my mum You're going to be sat with them You're not arriving on your own You don't know anyone I'm the only person you know You know a lot of people at this wedding So you don't really need a plus one Especially when all your mates are here That's a fair point So when I sent this message Helen didn't respond Even though she'd read it So she's got a red receipts on I knew she was annoyed And I thought about messaging her But decided to let her think it through Hoping she would understand my reasoning Yeah just like let her call off Digest It's a shock Process Give us 48 hours and she replies Right She responded a few days later saying thank you for letting me know okay so she's okay she's at least like you know not she's at least gone thanks for letting me know it took her two days took her a lot to write that she knows that i think she's probably realized what can i say yeah because what can you say being very fair and also she knows you've been having all the guest list struggles and all this like nothing she can say thank you for letting me know we met up a couple of weeks after this and things felt very normal good susan i saw a glimmer of our old friendship my hopes were high okay so this boy you say that she's happy and you like him but you don't recognize her in a negative way she's different she's different she's different all three of us were together yesterday talking a little bit about my wedding and helen helen confronted me she said something along the lines of quote steve and i've been talking and we know this will be a really special day for me and it just wouldn't feel right not to have my partner there he's gonna be there he's gonna be there no oh my god but also like you can live your life he is invited he's invited but also like you can do things without your partner like he's also invited it's irrelevant he's invited also like you can do things without your partner your best friends are going to be there.

59:12Like, this is for you and your best friends. Like, you can do things without your boyfriend once in a while. Like, seriously. Also, like, respectfully, Sarah. I hope this isn't the case, but like, I'm not getting married till next year, so we'll see if you're still together. Respectfully. Respectfully. Very respectfully. Yeah. Like, we'll see then, shall we? And that's the tea, isn't it? Shit. That's a bit of a crazy thing to say. I just think that is... I understand where she's... Unwarranted. In her mind, Brian's my life. No, what's his name? Steve. Steve's my life. Steve's my everything. Steve's my everything.

59:42Steve has to be with the everywhere. Steve, Steve, Steve. It's weird. Like, he really doesn't have to come. He really doesn't have to come. He's also coming. He's coming. He's coming. He's literally coming in the evening. And what's that? He's going to be coming for the dinner, no? It's just a ceremony. I think he's coming for the party. Oh, fine. The disco hour. Fine. Fine. Like, you can enjoy yourself with your best friends. Enjoy that moment with your best friends, the trio. What Sarah's forget... Is it Sarah? Sarah's also forgetting. Sarah. if she's a bridesmaid like I've seen bridesmaids at weddings they are busy people well yeah you're locked you're not gonna be sat with him in the ceremony it's like the ushers like you've got jobs to do like also she's gonna be by your side she's gonna be helping you with this helping you with that like she can't even like go and hang out with her boyfriend anyway like her boyfriend would be on his own because like she's got jobs for you to do and it's not like Helen's got a boyfriend she's got jobs for you it's not like Helen's got a boyfriend who he can hang out with he's gonna be on his own yeah he's gonna be on his own so it's probably good that he's not coming until the evening because that's when you're kind of like off the hook anyway you know exactly i think that's a bold thing to say um and she's saying if it is a budget budget issue we will be willing to pay for his place do you know when you'll start hearing back whether people can make it so we know if there's a space for him do you know what i rescind his invitation he's not even got I know rescind big word you're gonna call it I've never heard that word before in my life recent call it recent her English is really shining through it I think that was an actual conversation but now I'm watching and listening she said what a special day for you yeah I could feel Susan's face drop across from okay so susan's yeah in this conversation too in shock susan yeah helen did not run this conversation past susan before they brought it no chance i scrambled to say that it could it would be when we sent rsvps out and that depending on how we arrange the tables which i wouldn't be figuring out until next year that would constitute how many people is seated well seated and we are already at the limit of one of the table styles which is completely true yeah also it's not exactly like it's however many people per table i can't just add on another like it's not doesn't work like that but at least you're kind of being like oh yeah we'll get the rsv like you're next year you're pushing it down we'll get the rsvps back we'll see if we can you're actually like that was a good response to try and like just like you know what's the word like make her feel hurt yes that's okay yeah i'll think about it we'll see yeah meanwhile you're thinking ain't no fucking chance well yeah i feel like it's him being like i you know i should be coming i don't really oh yeah you think she's that why would he want to come he ain't bothered true he doesn't know anyone at this wedding he's not true true true true severe's right right so she's saying look that was all completely true i was doing things for the rest of the day so i didn't start processing it until yesterday evening yeah it is really odd to me that both her and Steve were having this conversation about my wedding guest list she's the one yeah I understand they're madly in love but I don't know him that well and the more I hear does your fiance know him no she's saying the more I hear about him from her the less I want him there so he's not even like he's this guy's an idiot yeah he's not coming this guy's an idiot it is just so unlike her that I can't help but wonder, is this his influence?

1:03:13Right. That's what, you know, I did. Yeah, Chintzy did say that. Connoisseur, if you will. Because some can be like, why don't they want me there? Does she not like me? There must be a reason she doesn't want me. What have you said? Now I'm seeing it in a different light. Like, you know, he could be like, what have you said to her to make her not want her to invite me? Do you think he's worried about her being at a wedding on her own? Like, it's where people meet. A lot of the time, everyone's getting really drunk. Like, is it that? I think it's more of the image of it. He's thinking, well, do they not like me?

1:03:42What have you said? Is like that kind of vibe? Like they should want me there. I'm your, like, you know, that's your best friend. And he's giving her a hard time to be like, try and get me an invite. What's going on? I've got the solution. So she's like, okay, let me ask. Let me ask. I feel like maybe she doesn't want to ask. I've got it. Because she, yeah. But it could be either way, yeah. Get your fiance to message Brian. Yeah. If your fiance doesn't have his number, that speaks volumes of why he also shouldn't have an invite get your fiance to message him hey bro um sarah's got getting like got a lot of like webmen to do so just wanted to take this off her plate um apparently you are not pleased that you've not got an invite i wanted to reach out like it's nothing personal we'd love to have you there in the evening like it is a numbers thing of why you can't be there in the day like hope that's okay bro like can't wait to celebrate with you in the evening blah blah and then he might be like oh yeah like i didn't even i'm not even sure if i can make it to be honest like blah blah and then you'll be like oh or he'll be like oh yeah fair blah blah sorted yeah and then if helen brings it up again you can be like oh the boys have spoken about it it's all sorted like he's happy to come in the evening what you want about okay yeah that's that's a good way around it so she's saying she feels uncomfortable that they're having this conversation about my wedding guest list i blah blah so she's saying yeah i'm wondering if it's his influence it just feels like helen is a completely different person i'm so confused at the audacity to ask for something like that she's always preached independence in a relationship and has been a great example of that in her previous relationships it's the man it's the man then it's the man i don't like it it's the man it's changed he's he's just this guy yeah yeah i think he's in a head start you said that she seems really happy and he seems really nice love bomb yeah it's not what it seems yeah in the beginning they always the manipulate the manipulative men yeah are always the best the love bombing in the beginning because they want it to seem we're so it's a bit controlling then and it's like you can't go places without me like i need to get an invite that kind of vibe that kind of vibe as well and i think also the vibe like what have you said do they not like me do you first not like me like what's going on like yes have you been telling them too much about what we did like and now she's going to start pulling away like it's getting really bad now okay so you're shocked that she's brought that up with you and said that so you're saying this is not like her usually she's so independent in relationships this is a complete 180 and it's it's like you're saying like in her previous relationships is if this had happened she'd have been like yeah absolutely that's fine cool so in your so you know that it is him the man has changed things yeah i think she was coming from thinking it's just the budget and that if she offered to pay it'll be okay i feel like i'm being forced to invite him because I could never imagine asking my best friend to pay me so her partner can come to my wedding yeah my partner has childhood friends who live a few hours away compared to Steve living 30 minutes away from the venue yeah you can pop there in the evening yeah his partner's friends are invited to the whole day but we have had to make the decision that their partners are only invited to the reception yeah let me reiterate they live multiple hours away Steve's lives 30 minutes away.

1:06:54I have no idea what to do. If I leave it, I fear my resentment will grow. If I talk about it, there's a huge chance she will get very defensive and it could blow up. I want to give her the benefit of the doubt and have a chat about her new relationship. It's so confusing to me that I worry that she's just going to defend. It feels really odd and isn't sitting comfortably with me. It feels like she's completely blinded and isn't understanding how it's coming across. Do I have a conversation with her? Do I send her a message about clear boundaries do i leave it hope it gets better help i wonder what your other friend thinks as well she's got her her reaction was gobsmacked yeah do we just go do we just go and have a girly night and not talk about weddings and just see what the right and we just talk about like boys and relationships just see what happens well it does seem when we're not talking about boys and the relationship she is her usual self yeah which is and it felt like the good old days yeah let's just be girls again yeah and let's just like connect some nice like let's go out let's go for a picnic let's reconnect let's go for some drinks the three of us let's get back to how we were before we met this boy because you said that you had that nice like the wedding's not till next year we can like let's address this later down the line maybe i'm gonna put money on they're gonna break up and it won't even be a problem anyway yeah if if if sarah can start waking up and realizing oh my god i'm with like a twat yeah because you say she used to be really independent and stuff so it might just take her a minute just to realize what's going on and be like whoa actually i don't need to i don't need this from you yeah this is actually wrong because it will crumble yeah if that is the vibe yeah i will put money on it that's the vibe yeah but yeah just offer a support try and get that friendship back maybe just let focus on that try and let's let's stop talking about the wedding let's just leave that because that's what's rocking the boat here yeah and let's just be the three of us and do some nice things

1:08:52okay god we're in the same vein here i hate my brother's girlfriend basically around six months ago my brother started speaking to a girl from his work who we will call sarah for context my brother is three years older than me and we are really close My boyfriend of five years is also best mates with my brother. So we are a very close family. That's really nice. Me and my boyfriend went traveling in January for four months to Australia and Southeast Asia. Since we've come back, my brother's girlfriend has basically been living at my mum's, yet barely holding a conversation with us. No interest in getting to know us at all.

1:09:30My brother has stopped asking my boyfriend to do stuff as well. So we're not doing double dates or anything. she was in the same year of school as me so we have mutuals which i understand is awkward oh right okay so she's kind of new to the picture you're kind of friend of a friend you do know her because yeah you you're the same year but it's kind of acted like op in in a well it's kind of had like an opposite effect it's kind of been like oh this is really more awkward than like oh this is great we're all friends of our friends yeah yeah basically i had heard some crazy stuff about sarah's previous relationship through friends of mine and my brian's right i have also known her to be quite bitchy in school and with her work colleagues for reference we went to different schools my best friend of 10 years went to school with her we are both 19 me okay so she will know that your best friend doesn't really like and you've heard stuff you know what went on me and my brother went on a walk on monday where he simply asked me my opinions on sarah okay that's actually really interesting i said i've heard some stuff but it's not fair for me to say based it's not fair for me to base an opinion off what someone else has said to me yeah i appreciate that i then told my brother how i have heard her best friend tends to even slag her off to my best friend which i thought was odd because i would never do that anyways we went for a walk and I got home thinking nothing of it I then got a message this morning from my best friend let's call her Susan we've been best friends for over 10 years yeah um she's you know my girl saying that Sarah's best friend has told her everything I said to my brother so your brother has gone and oh right come on I'm now fuming because why is my brother snitched on me for one but even more so why is she now taken what I've said outside of the family yeah yeah I messaged her a screenshot of susan's message and said what's this about she then said she's clueless oh so i asked my brother and yeah to be honest i'm kicking off at this point yeah anyway it ends up being a huge argument between me and my brother and then me and her i said to her how i think she's disrespectful for not coming to me and asking me what i said and instead going straight to her friends she's now calling me a psycho sister saying i'm crazy and don't want this to be together saying that he has to choose her over me and my Brian.

1:12:01Shut up. I did go off on one and said all the stuff I've heard about her and told her to leave my house before I'm home because I don't want to see her face. What is your mum saying about all this? I am so upset by this. My brother has now blocked me and keeps saying to the rest of my family that I've ruined our relationship and how I'm a psycho and I just want them to break up, which is not the case. He's saying this is all my fault and that he never wants to see or speak to me again. Oh, please. I've now moved into my boyfriend's house. oh my god you've moved out the family home she's saying this has all happened today lol very fresh oh my god sarah what should i do i can't speak to her because i tried to have a conversation we both blew up over text um i can't get through to him because he just isn't he's just thinking this is all my fault my brain his fault though oh yeah he's the one that yeah he's the one that like why would you do you ask what i thought of her i told you like we're family yeah you asked me i told you like in confidence like you know my brian has tried to speak to him but he isn't changing his mind or opinion on the situation i'm so stuck i'm so sad i love my brother and just want him to be happy and when he's been with a girl for five minutes and she's already causing drama with my own friends i just can't be happy about that please help look sarah yeah this has happened today yeah this is mega fresh yeah it's very raw it's very fresh i have every faith that your brother will come around.

1:13:27It's just so heated right now. Emotions are very, very high. Honestly, let's give it four days. Let's give it a week. And I do think hopefully your brother will have seen a bit of reason. Things will have just like cooled off a little bit. and I think all will be fine in the end. Yes, I agree. I also believe this relationship is not going to last, unfortunately. There's always been mega, already been mega, mega drama where there's been a major rift in the family. The brother knows he's only siding with his girlfriend because that's his girlfriend. And he's trying to keep his relationship afloat right now.

1:14:09Not thinking how important a relationship with his sister is, to be honest. this is being a bit stupid there i do think but sometimes boys are stupid if also like if this is like his early relationship he's figuring out like what to do as a boyfriend like whose corner am i in yeah he's just he's trying to like he is just trying to keep yeah he's just got a bit he's a mess right now i think he's acting very immature about this whole situation and not seeing who's truly in the wrong yeah i do think it's great that your boyfriend and him have always had a really good relationship and i do think i know so far it's not been very successful but i do think give it a few more days give it even a week or two and i do think your brother would listen to your boyfriend a little bit more and they could like they could get a nice vibe i mean it could be a nice if it was me i would say mum kick her out i know but maybe she's got nowhere to go well let's assume she does i'd say mum kick her out and and then he and then the brother can just figure it out because she's not been making like all the things you said were true she's not been making an effort with the family la la la not you know she was there for months and months and months hadn't spoken to the mother yeah um like i'm allowed to come back into my family home like this is my family home like you're not in my house like that's actually crazy i know like you're not being in my house like the mum needs to be like look your mum won't want that either she'll want you back at home yeah i think the mum needs to have a conversation with the brother and be like, look, I love you.

1:15:33And if you're happy with Lucy, then you're happy with Lucy. That's fine. However, let's not have her, like we need to get your sister back in the home. Come on. I think your mum's probably already doing mediator moves, to be honest. I think she'll be planting some seeds. Your mum knows this ain't going to last. I agree. Let him cool down for two days and then I'm going to go in. Your brother knows that this is too much drama for the start of a relationship and hopefully he will wake up soon. And he knows that like you and him are very, very close. he's really close with your boyfriend like he knows like what's changed and why things aren't working anymore upon reflection he will realise oh I've really fucked up what have I done and hopefully he should come around and mature a bit and rebuild his relationship with his sister it's just very fresh right now give it some time what a shame I think it's just a young boy with a new girlfriend I guess if she wasn't living at the house none of this would have happened it's the fact that she's in the home it's too intense it's too much all the time and i think he's young he's got this new girlfriend who he's obsessed with yeah and like anything she says like oh my god yes lucy yes lucy yeah yes fuck my sister yes yeah yeah yeah like not thinking just acting like a total buffoon ideally this girl leaves the premises yeah and relocates yes well good luck good luck sarah did you get your word i said my word what was it you didn't clock i said my word because anisha texted me like don't forget to use your word i was like i said my word right at the beginning what was your word i was genuinely locked in i was genuinely locked my word was inconceivable fuck i said that was inconceivable i said it right at the start my word was connoisseur oh my god i did not notice yeah and i said it i said oh i was like oh connoisseur if you will i said it oh that was good you were just talking and i just went and i tried and i tried to keep a straight face straight face straight face and we called each other out we were more alert i thought yeah more i was more alert too didn't get concert at all well done thank you inconceivable i thought i've got that in the bag didn't even fucking i honestly did it right at the beginning and i was like pressure's off i've said it pressure with I said it like three dilemmas in and then I was trying to say like different words to make you call me out nice I was like come on I'm trying to give you some bait because you didn't say anything crazy that's why I went in with a couple but yeah I was quite late in the game three dilemmas in and I said it oh you were late you were deep I was quite late well because I almost did it before and I was like no and then I was like oh my god I need to do it it's always a rush we've got star of the week we do indeed an inconceivable star of the week a connoisseur a connoisseur if you will I'm gonna read them out you may alright then right start of the week long time listener here started watching your YouTube when you were doing your pre-writers videos back in the day whoa rock on this one goes out to my Brian Tom Tom who's really become who's recently become a dad to our beautiful baby girl Poppy oh I love that name who as I'm writing this is two months old she's been quite challenging recently and whilst I'm on maternity leave he is at work I've obviously been doing a lot of the workload she's quite the crier she's put me through it but I came back from my nail appointment the other day to the biggest bouquet delivery with a card saying mummy sorry I've been at hard work lately I love you lots and lots and it melted my heart you really deserve all the recognition thank you Tom for being a good father and a good husband what an amazing man thank you Tom for the flowers very happy for you Sarah lovely guys thank you for listening everyone if you would like a bonus episode you can get one every single monday on patreon yes and you can email your dilemmas and your star of the week entries too hello at the girls bathroom um follow us on instagram youtube and tiktok thank you love you love you bye

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