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1:52Jessie Chamberland: You know the drama is never ending Don't let it get the best of you Hey, listen to how you doing, baby girls. New York City babies. Huzzah, huzzah, huzzah, huzzah, huzzah. Yes, absolutely. The show is back, baby. We have got a lot to catch up on. The girls' bathroom are back, baby.

2:11Sophia Dall'aglio: We are back like we never left. We've been to Medieval Times. We've been to Harry Styles. Period. We've been to Leon's Bagels. Saddles. We've been got an Irwan smoothie this morning on room service. Cheers, Hussies. Bingo. Let's thrive. We've got our new mic puffs. Who knew New York? How do we feel about the pink S &C mic puffs for those of you watching? Check it out.

2:31Jessie Chamberland: So cute. Actually, I much prefer it. It feels more cozy. I can put it on my chin. It's giving news anchor as well.

2:35Sophia Dall'aglio: I do wish we had these at the studio. I feel like I can move and I can be free.

2:38Jessie Chamberland: And in case y 'all didn't know which one is which, this has got a C on it. Okay, honeys? It's Cinzia for C.

2:44Sophia Dall'aglio: Didn't we have that recently? C for Cinzia. Didn't we have that recently? It was really nice, I thought. Yes, I think so. She was like, oh, I didn't know which one was that. Yeah, I think so. I love that.

2:52Jessie Chamberland: So, honey, it's Cynthia. And it's Esophia over there.

2:57Sophia Dall'aglio: Okay.

2:58Jessie Chamberland: I'm wearing my new Harry hoodie. Together tour. Shout out. I packed mine in my suitcase.

3:03Sophia Dall'aglio: It was, listen. A magical experience. Don't want to annoy the Brit Harry fans, but the US is getting it good and they're getting it way better. Okay. And if you knew that set list, you'd be crazy angry because we were shocked. They're actually getting it much better. Also, Kiwi was a neph. Yeah. The crowd went crazy. the floor was moving and Kiwi is part of the set list yeah because his whole thing with Kiwi is

3:23Jessie Chamberland: like oh I'm gonna tease it but I'm not actually gonna sing it oh and that was his whole thing

3:27Sophia Dall'aglio: in England wasn't it you know it was full like jumping up and down I thought you like having a

3:31Jessie Chamberland: great time Harry why didn't you do this at Wembley yeah well he's just look look he's a free spirit

3:35Sophia Dall'aglio: he's a creative Carolina song too like it was all like it was a little bit of it was old songs it was new it was like what whereas like Wembley was like new album yeah he also did like you know he

3:47Jessie Chamberland: did golden we didn't get golden you know i was kind of upset about that yeah but we've seen that a lot true but that's such a feel good and it makes me so happy but we got satellite yes true we didn't get that before yeah so look look beggars can't be choosers hey honey set lists

4:02Sophia Dall'aglio: yeah so it was amazing and also it's weird here because like when he sings leave america it's just like normal lyrics well no he does make them they did actually scream it though but not like the UK it was like leave America whereas in the UK it's like we're all shouting they just sing along and they love the American girls song obviously yeah

4:21Jessie Chamberland: and it's like yeah okay I get it honey what about the British girls come on represent what about the half Italian girls yeah

4:28Sophia Dall'aglio: what about the girls

4:30Jessie Chamberland: beginning with a C-I-N-Z-I-A Harrison

4:33Sophia Dall'aglio: Harrison but we are here

4:36Jessie Chamberland: live and direct from New York we've got Mariana back there

4:40Sophia Dall'aglio: Mary Nuna we got Lydia to the left oh yes pop that pussy baby honey yeah if you're wondering whose legs are behind us that is Mariana oh there she is with her balloon honey yeah we also quickly New York recommendation New Jersey we highly recommend taking a trip to medieval times oh absolutely I keep saying it was like one of the most unique experiences we've ever shared

5:04Jessie Chamberland: it was dinner theatre on steroids it gave the same vibes as Magic Mike to be honest Yeah, I think it was better than Magic Mike. That kind of like screaming, you know. Yeah, sexy nights. From within. You also got food. You don't get food at Magic Mike.

5:20Sophia Dall'aglio: Do you know what I mean? So for starters, it was tomato soup and garlic bread.

5:24Jessie Chamberland: I would rate the soup, honestly, like eight out of 10 and the garlic bread are 10.

5:27Sophia Dall'aglio: It's all on like metal, like silverware. They don't give you any cutlery because it's possible at the olden times.

5:32Jessie Chamberland: Yeah, but I will say something I consumed at medieval times really didn't agree with me. Yeah, you were shitting your brains out. Well, I wasn't shit my brains out because it hadn't arrived.

5:42Sophia Dall'aglio: I had to request that the door was closed because the smell was really traveling fine.

5:45Jessie Chamberland: No, but Sophia, nothing came out, babe. Nothing came out, baby.

5:49Sophia Dall'aglio: Well, something definitely came out because that smell was strong. Well, that could have been you talking.

5:54Jessie Chamberland: But yeah, I think it was that garlic bread it did. Really? It was my belly out. I got back, I was like, oh, rock hard, like fucking. I was like, what the fuck? Are you sure it's not just what you have for dinner? All I had was a Pepsi. No, because it was when we were in bed before we went. Oh. Oh, and got a piece of garlic bread. I had a piece of garlic bread. I had some beef. To be fair, I did have two of the potatoes and they were a bit spicy. Those potatoes were good. But I did have a Pepsi Max.

6:16Sophia Dall'aglio: See, it takes a lot to rock my stomach. I think I got a stomach of steel.

6:19Jessie Chamberland: Yeah, but yours is the other way around, baby.

6:22Sophia Dall'aglio: Yeah, I only pooed once this whole trip.

6:23Jessie Chamberland: Yeah, like you get back to New York, baby, always backed up. Literally. Like her backside is backed up, hussies. But yeah, medieval times, what a thrill. What an experience.

6:33Sophia Dall'aglio: A great thrill. listen there were a lot of kids birthday parties there but I think it's because we went to the 5pm and also like I'm not mad at that clientele and also it's so dark in there

6:43Jessie Chamberland: and we weren't sat by anyone and it was lovely and it was fun

6:46Sophia Dall'aglio: it was just like fun screaming it was very community spirits

6:51Jessie Chamberland: all the nights were sexy oh my god but we had the sexiest one praise the lord and we won what's his name in real life Mary? Justin we found him on Instagram so shout out Justin of New Jersey Linders.

7:05Sophia Dall'aglio: Please get some posts up because you've currently got no posts.

7:08Jessie Chamberland: Yeah, and also, Justin, Justin, the haircut was a great idea. The buzz cut was the best thing you ever did. He used to have like longer hair, but now he's got this like little buzz and it's done wonders for you, Justin. I think your career, it's about to take off. You're going to be the best night of the whole world, honey. Yeah, absolutely stunning. So, shout out to Justin for making our night special. Should we dive into this week's cheers to us and cheers to Justin? This is so comfy. Rest it on your chin. And it's so lovely. It's like really lovely. Yeah, let's dive into the inbox. Oh, we've got question of the week.

7:39Jessie Chamberland: Question of the week. Coming live to you from New York City. We're still recording. We're still recording up there. Yes, yes, yes. I'm going to lean back. Yeah, I'm leaning back. Ah, okay. Do you mind if I slid down here? You slip and slide, girl. Just get my, get my, get my, get my bit coffee.

7:55Sophia Dall'aglio: Question of the week. What song would be your theme tune in a TV show about your life? Aww

8:04Jessie Chamberland: This is fun Wait what would mine be? What would ours be? Mine would be

8:11Sophia Dall'aglio: It's quite hard to think of Marianna what would mine be?

8:14Jessie Chamberland: Yeah

8:16Sophia Dall'aglio: Oh wait there's some really good suggestions on here Alright you think Mary Girls just want to have fun Girls just want Man-eater Nelly Furtado Love that one She's a man-eater Chaotic Tate McRae What song's that? I'll know if you'll hear it messy lola young nice uh fabulous sharpie evans that's a great suggestion love that one oops i did it again britney spears that's a great one wait this is ours food glorious food oliver twist

8:46Jessie Chamberland: shout out oliver shout out nancy oh yeah the brat song oh yeah open her eyes my space ain't got

8:55Sophia Dall'aglio: nothing on me.

8:56Jessie Chamberland: Oh no, yeah, this is who I'd be. And, but Beyonce ain't got nothing on me. Diva what? Diva who? Diva where? Diva where? That's me. Diva what? Diva who? Diva where? That's me. Me. Look at that ballet leg. Oh my god, you're so flexible. Yeah. She's been stretching. We've got Jaws theme song. Oh, that's so scary. Is that what that is?

9:20Sophia Dall'aglio: Oh, she's sweet but a psycho A little bit psycho And that's just screaming

9:26Jessie Chamberland: I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a We've got Candy Robbie Williams What is that? She's like, Candy Wait, no What's that one? I've got her in my mouth Robbie Williams Isn't he like, Candy? It's on the tip of my tongue It's on the tip of my tongue What's that one?

9:44Sophia Dall'aglio: Shout out, Robbie No, that's that club one Robbie's like, it's a bit more upbeat Is it, yeah I love Zip-a-Z, she thinks she's made of candy. Oh, yeah, the candy.

9:58Jessie Chamberland: Hey, ho, here she go. Even a little too high or a little too low. I love Zip-a-Z, but where'd it go? She thinks she's made of candy. I fear that is Harry Styles in 20 years time, isn't it? Yeah. We've got here Tracy Beaker theme tune.

10:22Jessie Chamberland: Was there any lyrics in that song? It's come on

10:27Sophia Dall'aglio: What is the words? To make my dreams come true A word to come on through

10:35Jessie Chamberland: No matter what may come my way Believe me now, I will win someday The what? Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Everybody that you meet has an original point of view. And I said, hey, what a wonderful time today. Hey, better learn to work and play and get along with each other. You gotta listen to y 'all. Listen to the beat. Listen to the rhythm. Rhythm of the street. Open up your eyes. Open up your ears. Get together and make things better by working together. It's a simple message and it comes from the heart.

11:15Sophia Dall'aglio: Believe in yourself

11:16Jessie Chamberland: Believe in yourself Because that's the place to start And I say Hey Hey

11:22Sophia Dall'aglio: What a word What a word

11:25Jessie Chamberland: D.W. That's what it's about Being in a band Leaving space for others To sing and shine Yeah Getting boiling up We've got the aircon on in here We've got When I grow up I want to be famous I want to be a star I want to be in movies When I find out Grow Whoa And then finally shout out to our queen, Adela. Oh yeah, what? Every single night I pray that my tits are sitting right Adela, we're so proud of you. My long rouge, my corset is so tight Baby girl in control I feel like

12:02Sophia Dall'aglio: We both left the same gap.

12:04Jessie Chamberland: Nicole! Hey! Right. Oh, what a good one. I feel loose now. Oh, sweat. Would you like me to Yes, please. Sugar tits. dive into the inbox here today.

12:16Sophia Dall'aglio: Also, this is good, guys, because you've got four people's opinions in here today. We've got Gen Z. Mary, what are you? Alpha or something? Give us a wave for Gen Z! What, Mary's Gen Z? Well, we're all Gen Z. But different ends.

12:30Jessie Chamberland: Yeah.

12:31Sophia Dall'aglio: We're like low-key not Gen Z. We're more millennial.

12:33Jessie Chamberland: Guys, I'm 29. Like, I can't be Gen Z, but I am. I'm so in with the kids. You are. We've researched it so many times. The cutoff is 97.

12:43Jessie Chamberland: But we're all across the spectrum of it. That's how it starts. Make my walk gone through my walk gone. I'm not liking that.

12:58Sophia Dall'aglio: Just before we get into it, quick disclaimer. We are not doctors. We are not professionals. We do not actually know what we are talking about. This is a light-hearted space. Don't take what we say literally because we could be wrong. Yeah, and if there's anything serious, if there's anything you feel like you're seriously struggling with, Please contact a GP, a professional, because that is not us. We're just girls, girls and boys just like you, you know? We're just trying to get through life as well. Not professionals. Enjoy the episode.

13:25Jessie Chamberland: I'm in love with my best friend's ex. Please help me. So we've got it from the perspective of how has this happened?

13:33Sophia Dall'aglio: How does it happen? And also, like, were you happy about the breakup? Because then it was like, wow.

13:38Jessie Chamberland: Or is it like an ex from school? and maybe they've all, we've all known, you know, little Brian, you know, for years and years. And, you know, little Susie.

13:50Sophia Dall'aglio: Little Susie.

13:52Jessie Chamberland: Maybe they were in love. She got it. You know, when they were children. Hi, Sophia and Chintzia.

14:00Sophia Dall'aglio: Lots of digested.

14:01Jessie Chamberland: I never thought I would be writing in a dilemma like this. Because if you had told me six months ago that I would fall for my best friend's ex. So this is current. Oh, this is new. If you'd have told me I would have fallen for my best friend's ex, I would have told you that you were absolutely insane. For context, I was best friends with this girl. Let's call her Susan for 20 years. Wow. She wasn't just my best friend. She was my person. We grew up together. She was my everything. We went through everything together and I genuinely thought she would be in my life forever. our friendship eventually broke down over time which in some ways was harder than one big fall out she gradually stopped inviting me out and would book holidays with our other friend and i would find out when i saw their instagram stories that's peak that's cruel that is oh that's actually really sad that's just supposed to be the best friend as well by the end of 2025 we weren't really speaking anymore and i had to grieve that friendship susan was also i hear what

14:59Sophia Dall'aglio: I mean, she's saying it is sad that it's a slow drift. Yeah. It's almost easier if you're angry, you know? Yeah. If it was like, oh, well, I don't. And there's a significant event that we can put this on, you know?

15:10Jessie Chamberland: And you can be like, well, I'm not friends with her anymore because she did this and this happened. Yeah. But when it's a fade out, it's, yeah, you can't really pinpoint where it kind of went wrong and where she wanted to invite fucking Sally out instead of you. So I was grieving that friendship. Susan was also with this guy, let's call him Brian, for years. and when I say I never looked at Brian that way I genuinely mean it that was never a secret crush or anything going on behind her back when we were together he was simply my best friend's boyfriend when their relationship was difficult I was the friend supporting Susan and telling her she deserved better I never even had a friendship with him either like we were not on that vibe okay they broke up around two years ago and eventually Susan and I lost our friendship too So somehow after we both had lost our relationship with Susan, Brian and I became friends in our own right.

16:00Jessie Chamberland: We worked together, our bosses are mutual friends, and we naturally started talking more, spending more time together and having these really deep conversations at work. We naturally just grew a vibe between us, which was unspoken.

16:13Sophia Dall'aglio: Wow.

16:14Jessie Chamberland: Then, completely out of nowhere, Brian told me he was moving to Australia. Oh, lovely Brian. I was gutted as we became close and I really enjoyed working with him and being around him. We also made a little friendship group from work Where we would go our lot outside of work And a few days later He told me he liked me I remember thinking well he's moving to Australia So this can only ever be a little fling Except I didn't realise How quickly or deep it would get Okay so he said I'm moving But then meantime You'd started hooking up and Getting on He had told me He'd actually been developing feelings For me for a little while I wonder how you felt when he said

16:56Sophia Dall'aglio: were you shocked? were you like expecting it?

17:01Jessie Chamberland: she's not said how she felt he told me yeah yeah yeah I was trying to scan to see it's alright he told me he'd actually been developing feelings for me for a while and apparently he told his mum about me months before anything ever happened he notices things about me that I don't even think anyone else does he told me he loves my eyes and that underneath my sassy exterior he sees how soft and sweet I actually am someone who sees me and then we kissed I genuinely can't explain what that felt like we've always had this friendship underneath everything but suddenly there was this complete different chemistry so it was probably a bit of a shock to her and the kiss awoken her senses we were both ridiculously giddy afterwards like teenagers who had just kissed their crush for the first time We'd be at work trying not to smile at each other.

17:54Jessie Chamberland: Wow, irresistible. And since then, things have become much more real. We've slept together, we've spent proper time together, and I've realised I just don't fancy him. Like, this is more than that. Oh, oh, oh. Like, I don't just fancy him. Like, it's deep. When's he moving, though? Shit, I know. But this might be the dilemma. I see. Oh, no, but there's also the dilemma. Yeah. It's just with her ex-bus friends. I think I'm in love with him, and he told me he feels the same way. He said he's infatuated with me. and then we went to Paris so he told you this a while before he's moving wow because we're off to Paris the city of love and lust the city of Ratatouille

18:32Sophia Dall'aglio: shit okay sorry I had to have a sip so this is really advancing

18:35Jessie Chamberland: then we went to Paris Brian planned the whole trip for us and I honestly expected it to be lovely but I don't think either of us realised just how romantic it would feel it felt like one of those little bubbles where the rest of your life dip appears disappears and you just get to be with the person you really want to be with and coming home actually made everything worse because before Paris I didn't really think about leaving him too much we wanted to be in the moment and just focus on us and not grieve something that hasn't even happened yet time was limited and there was no point focusing on it okay so you're both kind of

19:07Sophia Dall'aglio: like oh well this will have to end yeah you know it's coming fuck but before you were like well I can kind of accept that like this is just going to be a fling but then paris has made it all feel way more serious and your feelings have grown significantly on this break on this trip sorry and then you're like oh shit now you're actually leaving well things in the beginning type of way

19:31Jessie Chamberland: about it in the beginning oh that's fine like oh you i fan i fancy you she thought i just fancy you why not and now like she's like you're actually in love with him so now i'm kind of like spiraling about now having to leave him but after Paris I couldn't lie to me sorry that is wildly uncomfortable

19:49Sophia Dall'aglio: I'm pretty comfy here yeah I'm just like getting a bit jittery but after Paris I couldn't lie to

19:54Jessie Chamberland: myself anymore I love being around him I love talking to him I love how comfortable I feel with him but also I still get butterflies he's my best friend as well as a person I am falling in love with and somehow it feels so natural he's become such a huge part of my everyday life that I genuinely couldn't imagine what my days are going to look like when he's gone. And this is where I feel completely sick. He's leaving for Australia in a few weeks. The countdown is nigh. And I don't know how I'm supposed to go from seeing him almost every day, talking to him constantly, having this person be such a huge part of my life, to suddenly not seeing him at all.

20:30Jessie Chamberland: He is moving because he wants to start a new life and become something he wants, a better quality of life. He is stubborn. And once he decides something, there's no going back on his word. He also doesn't plan on coming back for five to ten years, hoodies.

20:43Sophia Dall'aglio: So there's no possibility of a relationship even blossoming here. Unless. You've not even got the concern of like, should I be with him? Because he's going. Decision's been made.

20:55Jessie Chamberland: Well, it's unless she's going too. That's the only solution here, isn't it? I don't think you should do that. Yeah. Unless you're going too. But also you need to remember, I did have a life before this guy. I need to just, you just need to snap out of it. But then if this is true love, this could be your person. Then maybe you need to fucking book a flight to Australia. But let's keep reading. So I've tried to tell myself be sensible. Okay, so you've obviously, maybe you've considered it. I've told myself that I've only known this version of our relationship for a short amount of time. And also there might be a part of it because he knows he's leaving.

21:33Jessie Chamberland: It's even more lustful and like more exciting.

21:36Sophia Dall'aglio: Because you feel like you're on borrowed time almost.

21:38Jessie Chamberland: Yes. And he knows he's not going to have you for that much longer. That's why it's so passionate. And that's why it's so intense. Yeah, maybe that's a part of why it's making you feel so good because he's a different version of himself. He's like this version of himself that's like going to Australia and going to start a whole fresh. And he's just getting out of the system. And wants like a final fling. Yeah. So, yeah. Also, yeah, you don't know him, how he is in a relationship. This could be love bombing. There's a lot of things we don't know about this guy. I've told myself that I've only known this version of our relationship for a short amount of time.

22:10Jessie Chamberland: And that maybe I'm confusing the intensity of knowing he's leaving with being in love.

22:14Sophia Dall'aglio: Yeah, I think I'd agree.

22:16Jessie Chamberland: It's like the pressure cooker. And it's like, well, do I love you? Because if I love you, then I need to go too with you. Do you know what I mean?

22:23Sophia Dall'aglio: And it's a decision has to be made. Like you feel like you're on a clock watch.

22:27Jessie Chamberland: Yes. And then the intensity of like the sleeping together and the passion is maybe being confused with love. maybe you're kind of right there to consider that it's very self aware of you to say that yeah but I don't think that's it anymore if anything the fact that he's leaving has made me realise how much I actually want him in my life and I've started really considering moving to Australia with him which sounds absolutely insane when I say it out loud I've never been the person who would move across the world for a man I have my job my family my friends and most importantly my dog here

23:04I don't want to

23:05Jessie Chamberland: throw my whole life away because I'm scared of a breakup yes but at the same time Australia is somewhere I've always wanted to experience but I keep thinking what if this isn't me throwing my life away for a man what if it's me choosing a completely new chapter of my life with someone I genuinely love and taking a chance on something that doesn't come along very often and that's what I can't work out because if I let him go purely because I'm scared I don't know if I'll always wonder what would have happened yeah and then of course there is Susan he is still my former a best friend's ex. I know technically we haven't done anything wrong.

23:36Jessie Chamberland: They broke up around two years ago. Susan and I aren't even friends anymore. I didn't pursue him while they were together. I didn't have feelings for him secretly waiting in the background. You know what I mean?

23:45Sophia Dall'aglio: You've got a clear conscience in that aspect. Well, at the end of the day like, you guys are strangers now, you girls. Like, yes on paper it's a bit like, ooh that's a bit crazy. But in the reality of the situation, yeah you guys are essentially strangers now you don't even know each other. yeah and I appreciate you the the genuineness the genuineness of you being like look I didn't like him when they were together like he wasn't on my radar like I wasn't secretly hoping for like I never even thought about him like I think she's not in your life anymore and

24:21Jessie Chamberland: things have just happened the way that if she was still in your life then you know obviously but yeah she'll find out and think it's really weird and she'll probably you know whatever. She'll have a lot to say about it. She'll have a lot to say. But you're not friends anymore anyway. But does that make it okay? Because sometimes I still feel like I've broken the biggest girl code rule imaginable. And I hate that part of me feels guilty for being happy because I am so happy. Probably happiest I've ever been in a long time. Why did I have to fall for my best friend's ex as he's moving to the other side of the world?

24:51Jessie Chamberland: So I need your help. Am I a bad person for falling in love with my former best friend's ex, especially when Susan was my person for 20 years? Listen I don't think you're a bad person And you know what it is It's the nail in the coffin to the friendship So if you are 100 % sure That you do not And will not Rekindle Fine because it is the nail in the coffin She will never want to speak to you And you can appreciate you can understand that And I'm sure you can yeah exactly And that's the situation So if you feel okay with that Thinking okay

25:28Sophia Dall'aglio: I'm going to do this. Yeah. I know what I'm doing. This is my best friend. This is my ex best friend's ex. Yeah. I'm going for it.

25:36Jessie Chamberland: I mean, you've already been doing it anyway. You've already gone for it. The coffin has been nailed. The friendship is dead. And I guess you grieved it before. And how on earth do I navigate being in love with someone who is moving to Australia in a few weeks? P.S. Attached pics that we took in Paris were of each other. We didn't really take too many because we were. I'm sure you've smoked it the whole time, you guys. in the bedroom lovely lovely right what we're gonna do here is we're not gonna let's figure this out we're not gonna make any rash decisions we're not gonna move to australia yet i think a

26:09Sophia Dall'aglio: lot of things to consider like i think a little bit of distance for you guys would actually do you the world of good because i feel like you've had this zero to a hundred quite intense passionate should we be doing this should we not oh my god he's leaving like we've gone to paris you've had a an amazing whirlwind and i think you're in that infatuation stage which could definitely be the start of a wonderful great relationship but i just think it's not the time to be deciding whether i'm going to follow someone halfway across the world because i completely understand that this man has now become like the whole center of your universe but you also know yourself like you had a very full exciting life before this guy came in and you can have that again it's just that this chapter right now it's like it's all about him so I mean have you what I would like to know what his what he's been saying to you about his move to Australia like has he been saying to you like would you ever think about coming out like I'm gonna miss you so much like I'd love to see I can't believe the timing of all this like this is not what I had planned like I don't even want to go like I wish you could come like how has he been speaking about Australia does he even know that you are sat here considering going with him like because there is a part of me that's like if you said that you wanted to go with him how would he respond would he be like oh my god that would make me the happiest guy in the world like I love you so much like let's go and do this together or would he be like oh this was something that i was going to do like you're the girl that stays here and like i'm the

27:44Jessie Chamberland: one that's going because there's a few things that scare me about this situation um he's yeah he's made this plan he's got this idea of what this journey is going to be like for him that might be sleeping with loads of girls i'm just this is going to upset you but like that might be sleeping with loads of girls having loads of fun in australia you know doing that kind of thing while he's kind of starting a new life and doing all that single alone kind of thing. And yeah, if he's not said, like, can you come with me? It's like, oh, we're just inviting ourselves kind of thing. And I'm getting scared that this is just from gathered experience that he could just switch up like that.

28:25Jessie Chamberland: Also, even like the moment he goes, the replies stop. It gets a bit slow. You know, the replies are slower. He's giving excuses. He's not FaceTimed us. he's kind of bread crumbing us a little bit i'm just scared of like him switching up like that so i think let's just win let him move let him go let's plan a visit for like two weeks like

28:47Sophia Dall'aglio: which i would hope he initiates exactly i hope i'm not chasing you across the world yeah like for all i know you've just pursued me like i'm a little fling this is a thrill i don't like yeah we've had fun but i'm falling in love and i'm not and you're going across like because i want to

29:06Jessie Chamberland: trust him and that he is also falling in love with you and he's very serious yeah there is every

29:11Sophia Dall'aglio: possibility that this is the start of a beautiful relationship but also there's also a chance that

29:15Jessie Chamberland: it's not yeah and we've also got a lack of a big lack of information about this man do you know what i mean and you just think the timings of this and his australia move he might have a freak out and think no no i'd need to be single going to australia and a lot of the cases when these men men are moving and going to uni it's like that whole thing oh i need to be single for this what's

29:32Sophia Dall'aglio: he gonna say to you i always told you i was going you've always known i was going which which which he has he said from the off before anything even happened i'm going to australia and he will stand on that and he will say you always do this because one thing always going i thought we were just

29:48Jessie Chamberland: having a final hurrah like one thing a man is always going to do they're not going to change their plans for you. Not at all.

29:55Sophia Dall'aglio: No, they're not.

29:56Jessie Chamberland: He will be very happy. I know this is like awful for you to hear right now. But he will be very happy to never see you again in order to continue on the plans that he's already made. So I think let him go.

30:07Sophia Dall'aglio: Because he's not staying, is he, for you?

30:09Jessie Chamberland: No. Right.

30:10Sophia Dall'aglio: But you're thinking about going for him. I remember, you've got your dog. You've got your job.

30:14Jessie Chamberland: You've got everything here. Yeah. So I think let him go. Hopefully he acts right when he gets there. Yeah. I miss you so much. Oh, I've realised I love you. I need to be with you. all of that great energy he's been giving us in person hopefully translates and even just appreciate

30:27Sophia Dall'aglio: a little bit of i can't believe the timing of this trip yeah like i don't even feel excited about going anymore like i don't know how i'm gonna be there without like a little bit of that

30:35Jessie Chamberland: talk would also be nice and you're like i need you to come out let's plan your first trip we i need to try and make a way for this to work what are the chances of this but i feel like we can make it work i want to make it work sarah that kind of energy from him yeah because also i know if he's going to start to pull back we're going to be only clinging on even more with kind of the bread crumming he's going to start to give us yeah so that will look like yeah not replying for 12 hours you know kind of like not calling us not saying that i love views and stuff and that pull you'll feel it sarah and you'll want to cling on to the tiny little breadcrumbs he is going to give us like oh i do miss you and it's like he did say this he misses me say this and it's like oh yeah because like we've all been there where it's like oh we're clinging on to those little droplets of information that they're kind of giving us and we're hopeful that things are going to work out how we want it to so i would let him go let's see how he acts the energy he's going to give us because it should be everything we've explained and let's take it from there i would start with hopefully a visit that he's organized and initiated and booked you know for you to come

31:36Sophia Dall'aglio: i would also just like let's take it from busy let's book some plans can we go on a girl's trip can we do something like let's put some nice things in our calendar so that if it is the case that this is basically a breakup and he's going i'm gonna make peace with that like i need to now get some things in my diary and get equipped for this situation that's about to unfold yeah because

31:58Jessie Chamberland: one thing a man is always gonna do is is stick to the plan that he originally had whether a girl comes along or not unless he like absolutely cannot lose you and he will make it known and And he will make it work. Yeah. And he will make sure you're visiting him and he's coming back to visit you. Do you know what I mean? Let him go and see how he moves, I think. And I think. Keep us posted, please. Kind of work on detachment a little. You know, it's like, actually, I'm so secure.

32:22Sophia Dall'aglio: Well, it's also just like reality check as well. Like, okay, this guy is going. It's like, I do love him. And I need to look after myself. And I need to take care of myself. I need to just get myself sorted.

32:30Jessie Chamberland: It's just kind of like, I do think I love him. And I hope he loves me too, as much as I'm feeling it. So I'm very hopeful that this is going to work out. and he's going to act accordingly and like make sure that this works out and make me feel safe and secure. Otherwise, I'm absolutely secure on my own. I don't need this man. I have a full life. Yeah, I don't need this man to make me happy. And if he is going to choose to Australia, choose to go to Australia and leave me behind and kind of leave me in the dust and forget about me, that's not... I'm not fighting for that. I'm not fighting for that.

32:58Jessie Chamberland: It's not meant to be. It's not meant to be. That's not the energy I deserve or want. And then we can kind of write it off as, you know, love bombing, his last kind of fling in england fucking whatever the fuck fucking whatever the fuck yeah but you've

33:12Sophia Dall'aglio: got this you've got this strong it's gonna be fine absolutely fine everything will work out in the way that it's either outcome it's gonna be fine

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35:25Sophia Dall'aglio: Okay, next dilemma. I earn more money than my best friend and it's causing tension. Hi girls, huge fan of the pod, long time listener and today is the day I decided to ride in.

35:36Jessie Chamberland: Here we go.

35:37Sophia Dall'aglio: I am newly 26 years old and work in London as a corporate lawyer. Period. Diva. Wow. Diva up. Suits baddie. After several years of studying and training, I was offered a job by one of the elite magic circle firms in London and now work as an associate. Wow. Big ball of shit. The job in corporate law, especially in the top firms, is, as you can imagine, incredibly tough, long hours, a very strict culture. We are expected to be constantly available for our clients. And in return, we get paid a very good salary. It is a lot of money, especially for my age and experience. Period. I do appreciate that.

36:12Sophia Dall'aglio: And I am so grateful.

36:14Jessie Chamberland: Diva up.

36:14Sophia Dall'aglio: Diva's up, ladies. Recently, one of my closest friends, we've been friends for our whole lives, who earns a lot less than me, hasn't climbed the corporate ladder. and has been making a point to talk about my salary almost every time we meet. She asks what I spend my money on, brings up my salary in front of others in social settings, expects me to pay for more, and has recently been pressuring me to start donating to charity. For context, I have never, it's like, we don't need to speak about my financial situation with everyone. I feel like you're trying to embarrass me about this. And you're trying to call me out on what I do with my money.

36:53Sophia Dall'aglio: it's a little it's very like it's a little strange to be bringing it up every time and

36:58Jessie Chamberland: when we're in groups with people who i've not shared it with it's not any of your business yeah i mean it's absolutely fine like you guys have discussed it and you've shared with her your salary that's lovely that was a private conversation you know that we that you had as

37:13Sophia Dall'aglio: best friends shared in a moment of excitement and proud and joy yeah and but you don't need to share

37:18Jessie Chamberland: it to every single person we hang out with when i've not shared it with them or like because also it's unnecessary information i don't want to feel like i'm just a walking salary yes you know what i mean like i am a person underneath all this money honey oh well she says for context i never

37:31Sophia Dall'aglio: have brought up my salary and i'm not flashy at all right in my view i just have more money to save and invest and more money is taken to pay off my large student loan debt not more money to spend yeah am i wrong for thinking that i shouldn't be constantly offering to pay for drinks and donating more to charity should i speak to her on these comments or should i be more considerate of her own situation I wonder whether I should be firm with her and tell her my money is my business I worry people might start thinking I'm being stingy and not considering that not everyone

38:00Jessie Chamberland: earns as much as I do okay so you want Sarah to stop bringing this up like this is not a topic of conversation you know we had that like yeah you know my salary I know yours but we don't need to be chatting about it every time it doesn't need to be a theme in our friendship and you You also now feel like, well, the sad thing is, is if you're, if every time you guys hang out and she's kind of expecting you to pick up the bill, you're going to want to stop hanging out with her because you don't want to feel like that. Like, absolutely. I'm sure you want to treat your friends and, you know, help her out and be like, oh, get easier.

38:31Jessie Chamberland: It's not a problem. But when it's expected, that's not a nice feeling for you. That's just rude. Yes. Also. It's not, it's not a nice feeling. But also what's sad is that you'll want to stop hanging out with her, you know? So we do really need to kind of nip this in the bud.

38:44Sophia Dall'aglio: I don't want to cause a fundamental rift in our friendship over money, but my salary seems to be the talk of everyone when we go out and I'm getting sick of it. Grateful for your help.

38:54Jessie Chamberland: Okay, maybe just the next, I mean, so either you kind of send her a text, line it out. I think that could be sufficient. And just be like, hey Sarah, oh, you know like at the weekend when you kind of brought up my salary to like Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. Yeah. And Bartholomew. Yeah, it kind of made me feel a bit awkward, like I didn't really want them knowing and it's kind of just like, oh, it makes me feel a bit uncomfortable. but I don't really like talking about money and I'd just appreciate it for next time you didn't. That could probably work. And I'm sure she'll reply being like, oh shit, sorry, my bad, I won't bring that up next time.

39:24Jessie Chamberland: And hopefully she doesn't. And hopefully from that she kind of gets the message like, oh, she doesn't really like talking about it in general, even just between the two of us. Yeah. You know? Yeah. Or you kind of wait till like it happens in the moment and in that moment go, oh, I don't really want to talk about that, guys. Yeah. Oh, well, it's no one's business really. And say it there and then because sometimes that's like, oh, well, I wasn't expecting you to stand up for yourself that way. Yeah. And so you could do either or there. But I think you're going to have to say something. Otherwise, she is just going to continue making you feel uncomfortable and bringing it up and stuff.

39:57Sophia Dall'aglio: I agree. Yeah. I think you just say something. Maybe do it on a text. Maybe do it in person. Whichever you feel most comfortable. You've got every right just to be like, look, babes, what's going on? Like, just like, oh, I don't want to talk about it. It's fine. I'd rather speak about Harry Styles and like what shows we're watching. What is she going to do about when she always expects her to pay?

40:15Jessie Chamberland: I think, okay, if she's kind of like waiting for you to go, oh, I got them last time. Yeah. Should we half it? Yeah, should we half it? I'll pay for mine, you pay for yours. That's fair. Fairness. You know, like, oh, I'll get mine. You know, just kind of make a point of like, oh, I'll get mine. Don't worry. You get, yeah. I'll go up first.

40:34Sophia Dall'aglio: Even though it might feel awkward in the moment, just try and like have these new like boundaries yeah kind of thing and then it will just hopefully

40:43Jessie Chamberland: start to feel like it's the norm because yeah because when you do pick up the check she's gonna be expecting it every time do you know what i mean like yeah you need to just be like oh i'll go to the bar first and get mine and just like it might yeah the first time we do it you might be a

40:57Sophia Dall'aglio: chicken so i'll get that like just you know and then like do what's that app split share split

41:03Jessie Chamberland: you know and just like be like oh do you owe me this for that or oh i owe you 24 that nando's like let me send that to you and it's kind of like we know we're going to split things from now hopefully this is something that you can just iron out and it doesn't like start to become a real thing yeah once it kind of settles down she just drops it yeah she should yeah once it kind of becomes the norm that yes honey i'm making a lot of money honey like then hopefully successful Successful woman, everyone. I'm big in corporate law, honey. Yeah. Yeah. Then she'll, I'm like looking for my phone. It's fucking here.

41:37Jessie Chamberland: Yeah. Yeah. She should, it should become less of a shock and less of a thing, you know, less of a big deal.

41:42Sophia Dall'aglio: It's tricky to navigate in the beginning when it's like, well, what's all these questions like? I'm sure she'll get used to it.

41:48Jessie Chamberland: It'll become kind of like the norm.

41:49Sophia Dall'aglio: Yeah.

41:57Jessie Chamberland: Oh, are we on to star of the week? No. oh

42:06Jessie Chamberland: oh no we've got a star of the week turned bad boy of the week god she said how has this happened what a fall from grace star of the week could have been dot dot dot instead liking porn girls photos so I think she was I was gonna email in yeah I was considering to say that you were gonna be at the girls bathroom I was going to email in that reminds me of when Amy's saying to Curtis I was here to tell you that I loved you it's like I was going to email in to the girls bathroom for the start of the week but you were liking porn girls pics oh that's such a shame oh no what a fall from grace how does that song go isn't there a song that goes fall from grace she's beauty

42:51Sophia Dall'aglio: and she's grace she's misguided yes but isn't there one

42:55Jessie Chamberland: about falling from grace hmm Hmm. It's not on the tip of my tongue, divas. Right. Hey, girls. Long time listener. Been around since the frozen yogurt days in Nottingham. When were we having frozen yogurt in Nottingham? Do you mean zero in Nottingham? The acai bowl. The acai bowl. Maybe. Possibly. Diva up. Do you remember that? Divas are up. This diva's down. Who is this guy? I know. One of the reasons I chose Nots Uni then and was widely disappointed when it closed by the time I got that. I know. I'm so sorry. That was like the heartbreak of all heartbreaks. That was like. Listen. We had a serious talk about investing to keep that place going.

43:28Jessie Chamberland: No, we actually did. He was like, do you want it? We were like, I don't think we've got enough money for that.

43:32Sophia Dall'aglio: I don't think we're suitable for that. We're 19 years old.

43:36Jessie Chamberland: But what a spot. That was a really delicious acai bowl, to be fair. With the chocolate chips on the top. That was ahead of its time. The granola he had there was also just great.

43:44Sophia Dall'aglio: For like the knots, that was ahead of its time.

43:45Jessie Chamberland: It was. That was like our first trendy, cool spot we would love to go to. I don't even think there is another acai bowl dedicated shopping. He should bring it back. There's not. He went back to school though, didn't he? He went to Australia maybe. He went to New Zealand.

43:59Sophia Dall'aglio: I thought he went, oh, did he? Yeah, I remember he went back to school in New Zealand or some shit. And we were like, oh, fuck, he's actually gone.

44:06Jessie Chamberland: Right. My Brian could have and should have been Star of the Week for many reasons until recently. It just shows how the mighty have fallen. It just shows how they can switch up so fucking quick. Switch on a dime. It's scary, isn't it? Because, goodness me. Backstory real quick. Me and my brand met during my first job back in 2016.

44:25Sophia Dall'aglio: Diva.

44:26Jessie Chamberland: But barely even spoke until nine years later when we were both in the right place at the right time. I was visiting my hometown from London and he had just moved back from Dubai. Lovely. Cool. We hit it off, had the best first date and it lasted from 4pm until 2am. Then made it work whilst I was still living in London. He made the effort to come down and stay with me over the odd weekend we had the best time ever. Brian booked a weekend break in the countryside for my birthday after a couple of months. It was gorgeous. Red wine, open fire, sticky toffee pods. Toffee. Sticky toffee pods, honey.

45:01Jessie Chamberland: This was six months after meeting and we spoke about moving in together, which is finally happening next month, by the way. Exciting day. We've just had the best time together. It'll be a year since our first date this Friday. Okay, so we're at a year. This is great.

45:15Sophia Dall'aglio: Happy anniversary. Happy Annie.

45:17Jessie Chamberland: And we're going to do the whole thing again. Our families are so happy for us Our friends and anyone close to us Can see how much we do love and care for each other We have just got back from a week long holiday In Greece with Brian's family They told me while we were away How much they like having me around And how I'm a part of the family I'm on cloud nine she said Was on cloud nine I guess However Tell me why Tell me why men don't use their brains Now I may have snooped on Brian's phone About a couple of months ago around the time Megan Fox had posted those photos on her Instagram. Shock horror.

45:54Jessie Chamberland: They had been liked and shared, etc. So he'd like them. Which images? Sorry. I don't know. Do you want to quickly fact check that? Or maybe just Google it. Megan Fox pics. So he'd shared it to his friends. So he'd liked it and he'd shared it to boys. Right. Right. Megan Fox sexy pic Instagram.

46:23Jessie Chamberland: was it when she did that skims collab maybe she was looking gorge there was those lovely pictures it's megan fox i mean let's just assume yeah it's some incredible pictures i mean yeah it's megan fox honey so shock they've been liked and shared around okay fast forward to last week when brian was show so that kind of happened a couple months ago okay yeah and you kind of thought oh it's a celebrity it's not really grounds to kind of yeah pull it up it's Megan Fox it's Megan Fox whatever kind of let it slide yeah and that was probably your first instance of like finding something on Instagram and kind of being uncomfortable about it so we just got back from oh my god am I okay fast forward to last week when Brian was showing me and his mum photos on his phone and Brian swiped to the next photo and it was an image of multiple women with their huge fake tits out.

47:18Sophia Dall'aglio: Oh my God.

47:21Jessie Chamberland: He likes the titties. Oh my God. That is fucking mortifying. And his mum was there as well. Oh, mate. So that was, this image was saved to his camera role. You would have thought he would have been way more careful. You know how embarrassed he was because it was his mum as well. Good. Oh my God. Absolutely good. Oh goodness. Right. So it was multiple women with their big boobs out an immediate death stare was thrown towards Brian he quickly moved past it and I saw him delete it so like any rational girlfriend I snooped again later that night

47:56Sophia Dall'aglio: what did you find then?

47:58Jessie Chamberland: so nothing was kind of said in that moment well his mum was there

48:01Sophia Dall'aglio: it was like oh that was really fucking awkward he probably went bright red and it was just like oh this is horrible

48:07Jessie Chamberland: so I snooped again later that night unlocked recently deleted deleted and oop there's the photos of the boobs and two pornographic videos of again huge fake boobs he likes the titties he likes the milkers so he went quickly to delete all this stuff obviously not realizing that you were going to ask later that night like let me see that again i said nothing fast forward another week i checked his following list so you're just kind of these things are building up before you say something you're kind of gathering all your stuff.

48:41Sophia Dall'aglio: You're just noting it. You're like, okay, recently deleted. I mean, this is awful.

48:46Jessie Chamberland: And she said, so in the following list, oh my God, we've got fucking screenshots. Oh my God. She said, jackpot. I found an Insta porn model, whatever you want to call it, call the profile, are most recently followed. And Brian had liked... Why have you got follow?

49:04Sophia Dall'aglio: Like, that's so sloppy. Why are you fucking liking the fucking pictures? Are you alright? Are you stupid? What are you doing?

49:10Jessie Chamberland: And Brian had liked a recent photo, which was posted between his birthday weekend I had spent with him and the weekend I took him to Madrid also for his birthday. So it's just like you were with me and I was taking you on trips. And I was spending money on you too. That's so fucked. Now, I love my Brian so much. He would do anything for me. So this feels very out of character. Attaching screenshots of when I called him out for it. As you can see, he's apologized, but still gross. I've been away for work and not seeing him But planning to bring it up in person to Clavia

49:44Sophia Dall'aglio: Okay so you have decided I'm going to finally say something Yeah

49:48Jessie Chamberland: Good This is all at such shit time We're planning to move in together next month And I feel disgusted

49:54Sophia Dall'aglio: It's such a rain cloud over this like exciting period Yeah We're moving in together This is supposed to be one of the most special things ever We're always going to look back at that time when we first moved in And now we're having this like weird tension Because you're acting stupid

50:06Jessie Chamberland: Yeah Sarah I don't think we're ready to move in at this point like I think it's that serious I'd be like okay I'm not ready to move in with you because this is a very big commitment please can we read these times so so she was saying this is such a bad time like we're planning to move in together I feel disgusted like the models you know get your money and single guys do what you want but my Brian like why do you need to be fantasizing and looking at another girl because we all know he's not just looking for the sake of looking how would you girls feel am I overreacting this hurts more because of how lovely my relationship felt before this shit well yeah now it's tainted now i feel completely different like i'm looking at you a bit differently as well as she said look it has been playing on my on my mind for a while but unable to say anything i've been having nightmares of him cheating on me also attaching photos of us too so yeah because you hadn't said anything for a long time you were kind of letting it build up and then right so you sent him the screenshots of this girl and you said this can go he said done uh and you've said I'd much rather you ask me if you're feeling this way than, sorry it's a bit blurry than looking at another girl.

51:13Jessie Chamberland: Makes me feel sick that you probs have done that. Are you basically saying I think you've wanked over these girls? He said, I don't want you to feel sick and to be clear, I haven't done what you think over the Instagram girl above. Okay, so he's saying I've not wanked over her. Oh, thank you my liege. My lord. I get why you're uncomfortable and don't want that at all. I remember what you've said. Okay. Then you said you've not just followed her because you admire her creativity of posting her tits out. And you just said, okay. And here is the couple. I mean, Sarah, you're gorgeous. And also, you look phenomenal, Sarah.

51:53Jessie Chamberland: I know this is, I mean, I wouldn't move in with him if I'm honest. Because I think that's kind of rewarding like bad behavior. Do you know what I mean? Treat men like a dog. But it's just showing him that like, oh, yeah, you can get up to that. And I'm still happy to move in with you. It's like, actually, no, I've got boundaries. And this has really upset me. There has to be some punishment. Yeah. Like, I don't think this behavior now means, yes, I'm going to move in. We're going to go ahead with this, I think. Like, if this was Lydia or Mariana, I'd say, well, you're not moving in with him. Like, I'd say that's not happening.

52:22Jessie Chamberland: Like, we'll have to figure out another solution. Because this relationship is not in the point right now for us to now go and live together, which is intense and everything changes. like that's just my my thoughts on that what are your thoughts yeah I I I don't know I think it's good that you finally said something because you know it's important I appreciate this guy has been

52:45Sophia Dall'aglio: like really wonderful obviously not this incident but you've had you do have like a great relationship and at the end of the day my my mind is kind of like well you've you've said it now and he's acknowledged it and he now knows that he can't do that you don't like that that's your boundary you're not okay with that yada yada yada so I would hope that this is now all in the past this is all behind him and you're never going to find again I'm scared girls in his following list girls like him liking people's pictures that he shouldn't be liking because the boundary's now been set so i guess it depends gonna actually take action and listen to you that you will know that because you know this guy you know his personality you know your relationship whether like how seriously is he gonna take this and how seriously is he gonna take you but we've only

53:37Jessie Chamberland: known him for a year and i think this is the first time we've kind of said had a hurdle hey brian I don't like that

53:43Sophia Dall'aglio: he does have a chance here now to really step up apologize never do anything like this again and be better because he knows like no no no that doesn't I shouldn't be doing that that is like he got called out and I'm hoping that he felt embarrassed and didn't want you to feel like that and didn't realize maybe the severity of how that was going to make you feel and I hope a huge fucking light bulb has gone off in his head like oh shit like I understand now what that looks like I'm never, I never want to do that again. Hopefully that is now what happens with your relationship in regards to the moving in.

54:19Sophia Dall'aglio: Like, I don't know whether you should still do that or not. I think you will know whether you still want to go ahead with that. You don't have to rush to move in. Like, I don't know if you've signed stuff and if you've paid deposits, like yada, yada, yada. But in this incident, I think it's good that you've called him out. You've said what you don't like and hopefully he acts better moving forward and in future i would call things out sooner because yeah with that megan fox thing you could have called it out then and hopefully we never would be here with the pics of the tits we could have called it out then hopefully we wouldn't be here so i think in future do things more in the moment and don't sit on it and wonder in your head about

54:59Jessie Chamberland: these things i also think it's very important that we're going to have a conversation in person

55:04Sophia Dall'aglio: definitely and i also think that will help you understand like and help him see how serious this is for you yeah and hopefully you will then get a much better gauge on like how seriously or not

55:15Jessie Chamberland: seriously he's taken what you've said like you'd be so fucking serious in that conversation saying that this isn't going to fly with me yeah like this is disgusting i don't want to see it like i don't want you to be doing it like and i feel uncomfortable moving moving in with you right now i'm not sure if i want to do that because this is really that serious because it is this serious and And I really wait. Like, I hope he sees the seriousness of this and not like, don't end the conversation. Be like, oh, it's okay. And like, be happy and cuddly after. Because then I'm scared. If we're going to then move in, give him two months and he's going to slip right back into it and looking at the big fat titties.

55:48Jessie Chamberland: Okay. The tartars. You know, the tartars. Have your convo in person.

55:52Sophia Dall'aglio: And see how you feel. You know, talk to you. Don't feel forced that you've got to move in because you said you would. No, please don't. Like, just, there's no rush here.

55:59Jessie Chamberland: Because once you move in with someone, you can still get out, but everything's more intense. It's much harder. You know, you know, anyways. But yeah, I would really, really. Speak to your friends as well. I would put some fear into him.

56:13Sophia Dall'aglio: I would speak to your friends and family, the people that really know you guys and just get some more advice.

56:17Jessie Chamberland: I just want him to take you seriously in person and him to realize, oh, I can't do this. Otherwise, she's not going to want to be with me. This is not the behavior of a boyfriend that she wants. You know, it's like, wake up, Brian. Yeah. Like, she doesn't want a boyfriend who's doing this. And I hope he understands that. And it's like, oh shit, she's not going to move in with me if I keep doing this shit. You know, like. You're not full from grace. Like, he was a star of the week. I know. Well, should we do our real star of the week, Sophia? Yeah.

56:40Sophia Dall'aglio: Okay.

56:40Jessie Chamberland: I guess we should. You know. Let's give the vibes.

56:42Sophia Dall'aglio: You know. Please keep us posted on that one, Sarah.

56:45Jessie Chamberland: Me too, Sarah. It's just disappointing. Like, why you got to be doing that? Everything is so great. And also, it's like, you would think it's common sense for these men. You would. But it's not. Which is just like, what the fuck? Also, like, where's your just basic level of respect? so I'm hoping oh my god

56:57Sophia Dall'aglio: sorry

56:59Jessie Chamberland: this won't happen again but be aware we need to do this dilemma

57:03Sophia Dall'aglio: next week oh really okay right we're saving this for next week my roommate my roommate said my boyfriend can't keep shower gel in the shower and can only stay once a month okay we'll do that next week that has to be in the next girl talk okay right it's time for our real star of the week

57:17Jessie Chamberland: okay Brian

57:18Sophia Dall'aglio: but listen Brian

57:19Jessie Chamberland: you can fall from grace real quick we've seen it happen

57:22Sophia Dall'aglio: like I'm not even too impressed with you today star of the week my bestie introduced me to the pod a few months ago and I've literally listened to every single episode already. I am sitting with her now writing in and she has just opened my birthday present to her which was a fully booked bookmark. Oh, lovely. I would like to nominate my Brian George for Star of the Week. He's in the Navy. And has been away for seven months on deployment. But he still sends me flowers, gives me lots of calls and lovely messages even when he's doing long hours and hasn't been off his ship in weeks. Ship. We are wedding planning for our winter wedding and he makes me feel so loved and excited for our future, even when I hadn't seen him in such a long time.

57:58Sophia Dall'aglio: He's back in a month and I can't wait to see him again. That guy moving to Australia could learn some tips from the Navy guy. From our Navy guy, George. Oh, you guys, such a gorgeous couple. He looks so cute in his uniform, Sarah. Sarah and George.

58:12Jessie Chamberland: Shout out, George. Shout out, George. He's on the best behavior.

58:14Sophia Dall'aglio: We're watching you.

58:15Jessie Chamberland: Huzzah. Huzzah. Huzzah.

58:17Sophia Dall'aglio: All right, guys, thank you so much for listening to our episode live from New York City. Absolutely. We have enjoyed having you here with us today. love you so much cheers and if you want to join the Patreon you can get a bonus episode every single Monday absolutely honey star of the week entries dilemmas email hello at thegirlsbathroom.com

58:34Jessie Chamberland: if not we will see you next Monday or next Wednesday honeys love ya divas bye