In short
Biological dentistry claims that each tooth is an “organ” (with nerve, blood supply, lymph drainage, and function) and that dead/infected dental tissue can drive chronic systemic illness via chronic infection, immunofatigue, and pathogen spread through nerves (trigeminal/vagus) and lymph/blood pathways. Key claims include: cone beam CT/x-rays plus tooth-by-tooth assessment can reveal cavitations and hidden infections; root canals/teeth extractions can leave infected jawbone/periodontal ligament “swamps” even without pain; removing infected tissue can rapidly improve brain fog, psychiatric symptoms, fatigue, autoimmune markers, and joint pain.
Guest background
Dr. Jigar Gandhi is a biological/holistic dentist in Long Island, known for “myologic/biologic dentistry” protocols and using cone beam imaging, meridian-chart correlations, and surgical cleanup (including PRF/ozone/red/green light described by host).
Notable examples
Host reports symptom resolution within 48 hours after a tooth removal (shoulder pain, lung “catch,” toe numbness/itching). Referred patient with multiple root canals/bridges/caps reported low back pain gone within months after Dr. Gandhi’s procedure. Another patient (Amelia) reported next-day improvement in lifting her child plus IBS and chronic joint pain relief.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOUnderstanding Dental Health and Systemic Illness
0:00 to 1:16
Learn how chronic dental health issues can lead to systemic illnesses and the misconceptions surrounding teeth as organs.
“The biggest misconception is what is an organ.”
Personal Experiences with Biologic Dentistry
2:18 to 4:28
Gary shares personal health issues linked to dental problems and the positive impacts of biologic dentistry.
“Last time we shot it in your living room.”
The Role of Teeth as Organs
4:28 to 6:10
Explore why each tooth should be considered an organ and the implications of leaving dead or infected teeth in the body.
“And now, maybe because I started really digging into it, I get things through my feed all the time.”
Understanding Chronic Infections in Dentistry
6:10 to 7:07
Learn about the chronic infections that can occur in the jaw and their systemic effects on health.
“Well, if you want something dead in your mouth, then keep it.”
Symptoms of Dental Issues and Root Canals
7:07 to 9:10
Discover common symptoms and issues related to root canals and dental infections that may not present with pain.
“And so I called you up and I said, I'm going to make this introduction because during my discussion with him, I said, have you ever had a root canal?”
Inflammation and Immune Response Related to Dental Health
9:10 to 12:18
Examine the relationship between dental health, chronic inflammation, and immune system fatigue.
“It's like real estate agents or day traders.”
Pathogens and Dental Health: Beyond Bacteria
12:18 to 14:00
Learn about the various pathogens that can affect dental health and their implications for overall well-being.
“or homocysteine, you know, other things.”
Understanding Dental Pathogens
14:00 to 17:20
Explore the hidden pathogens that can linger after dental procedures.
“Yeah, I saw the spirochetes in my blood because one of the things that we did, and if you haven't seen our first podcast, you should really go back and watch it.”
The Role of Biologic Dentists
17:50 to 23:00
Discussing the importance of finding qualified biologic dentists and their protocols.
“Yeah, now is there any kind of repository for real biologic dentists?”
Linking Oral Health to Systemic Diseases
23:00 to 28:00
Unpacking the connections between oral health issues and systemic conditions.
“You know, what was really interesting is you and I geek out a lot.”
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Understanding Dental and Systemic Health Connections
28:00 to 31:33
Explore how dental health relates to overall wellness and the importance of regular dental check-ups.
“Like you didn't have symptoms all the time.”
Patient Transformations After Dental Treatment
31:40 to 35:14
Discover the profound changes patients experience post dental procedures.
“Now let's get back to the Ultimate Human Podcast.”
Path to Understanding Autoimmune Diseases
35:14 to 41:05
Discuss the complexities of autoimmune diseases and the importance of holistic treatment approaches.
“because you are depleting the police force that's there to protect you.”
Real-Life Remissions and Testimonials
41:05 to 42:00
Hear about patients who have seen improvements in autoimmune conditions through dental health interventions.
“Teenagers all the time, they're like, they would call it freshman 15 or 20, whatever it's called now.”
Autoimmune Conditions and Remission
42:00 to 43:57
Explore how dental health can impact autoimmune conditions and remission.
“let's go back to it and let's see what we can do and how to make a difference for you.”
The Connection Between Infection and Joint Pain
43:57 to 47:18
Understand how infections can lead to joint pain and systemic issues.
“But if you look at high-powered lines, like an electrical plant, electricity can jump, and that's how the human body is.”
The Complexity of Symptoms and Root Causes
47:18 to 49:42
Learn about the diverse symptoms linked to oral infections and their origins.
“It's like going in and getting a Pronovo scan or a full body MRI and do this, you know, just for peace of mind.”
The Domino Effect of Health Issues
49:42 to 53:25
Examine how one health issue can trigger a cascade of other health problems.
“So all of these cytokines secreted from white blood cells.”
The Domino Effect of Health Issues
53:28 to 53:41
Examine how one health issue can trigger a cascade of other health problems.
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Improving Oral Care Routines
53:41 to 56:00
Discuss the importance of advanced oral care practices and personal routines.
“And I agree 100 % with you because we see patients who are athletic, but they gained a little bit of weight, then they lost weight, right?”
Importance of Oral Care Routines
56:00 to 58:15
Learn about effective oral care practices and their impact on health.
“It's like, dude, your mouth gets exhausted.”
The Role of Biological Dentistry
58:15 to 1:00:35
Discover how biological dentistry can address unexplained health issues.
“Hydroxyapatite in it, like particle form.”
Understanding Dental Materials and Health
1:00:35 to 1:02:38
Explore the health impacts of dental materials like metals and fillings.
Spirituality and Health Connections
1:02:38 to 1:04:45
Uncover the relationship between spirituality and personal health practices.
“And then if you had a tooth taken out and it wasn't taken out with the biological dentist, just get it checked out to see if there's something there.”
The Journey of Becoming an Ultimate Human
1:04:45 to 1:09:23
Reflect on the importance of continuous learning and personal growth.
“which is essentially the law of attraction and the law of abundance and frequency and, you know, tying into the quantum because there is a lot more that we don't understand and that we can't yet specifically explain.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00The biggest misconception is what is an organ. Each tooth is an organ.
0:03Gary Brecka:If we can believe that, then if it's dead, why are we keeping it there? There are physicians out there that have said, I have never had a patient come in with any form of cancer that did not have severe dental decay. The biggest thing is patients are suffering from chronic issues. When I see the x-ray, I don't even need the medical history because I can just look at each tooth and know what's going on there. Patients are coming in sick and these patients want to be better, but they're not getting the right care. Chronic infection causes immunofatigue, the progressive slow overwhelm of the immune system.
0:39One of the things I've noticed on every patient who goes to this treatment, taking out the stuff that shouldn't be there, their eyes lighten up. Brain fog gone, psychosis gone. It's insane.
0:49Gary Brecka:What else does my audience need to know about myologic dentistry or what symptom might they be having right now that they can't put a finger on? One of the biggest problems with that is I'm like the 30th person they see. They've been around everywhere. They spent so much money on their health care. And the major thing in biological dentistry is...
1:16Gary Brecka:Hey guys, welcome back to the Ultimate Human Podcast. I'm your host, human biologist Gary Brekka, where we go down the road of everything, anti-aging, biohacking, longevity, and everything in between. And I'm so excited to welcome back a very close friend of mine who's become a close personal friend of my family, my kids. He's done so much for my family and I. He's given me teeth, my wife, my daughter, my doctor, just about everybody in my life has gotten a tooth from this dentist. He's one of the best biologic dentists in the world. He's taught me so much about the importance of the oral cavity.
1:50Gary Brecka:If you haven't seen the first podcast that I did with Dr. Jagar Gandhi, you've got to go watch that podcast. Biologic Dentistry is now just hitting the mainstream. We just launched our short on oral health and oral health care and biologic dentistry, and it trended so fast that I said, we got to bring Dr. Gandhi back on to answer some of the questions from you guys and really take a deep dive into biological dentistry. So Dr. Gandhi, welcome back to the Ultimate Human Podcast. Thanks for having me. Last time we shot it in your living room. Yeah, we did a living room. Because I was actually up there to have a surgical procedure done.
2:26Gary Brecka:I think when we did the last one, this tooth you had taken out and had the post. So you put this post in and this tooth had come out. So you put this post in. So we still got to get you a tooth. I still need a tooth over there. It's coming soon. Yeah, I'm not airing the podcast till I get the tooth. It's going to be like a little quid pro quo. You want me to release the podcast? I need a tooth. But he's done this for my wife. He's done it for my daughter. He's done it for Dr. Sardo, who's been our clinic director for years. And you know what's crazy is that from that first moment that you and I, I mean, you and I had a friendship for a long time before you ever actually did any work on me.
3:06Gary Brecka:And, you know, we were clients of each other's. We met through the 10X health system. And I remember the day that I cracked my tooth and I called you and you identified all of the problems that I was having associated with that tooth. which I had never connected to that tooth. I had left anterior shoulder pain. I had a catch in my left lower lobe of my lung, which I just thought was runner's cramp, you know, from exercise. And then I had this strange thing where once in a while, my left toe, of all things, would either itch or it would go numb. And sometimes I would tap my foot on the ground, and Sage used to make fun of me because I would take my shoe off and I would just itch my big toe and I would put my shoe back on.
3:45Gary Brecka:and I never connected that 19th tooth meridian to the symptoms that I was having and 48 hours after you took that tooth out, the symptoms went away and I think the thing that hit me the hardest was being woke to biohacking or whatever you want to call it. I do the red light. I do the sauna. You know, I eat whole foods. I focus on sleep. I get in the sauna. You know, I'm really trying to do the best with the tools that I'm given. And I was completely oblivious to biologic dentistry, even though we were friends, and the impact that it could have on people's health. And now, maybe because I started really digging into it, I get things through my feed all the time.
4:34And the claims range from it has no impact at all,
4:41Gary Brecka:leaving dead tissue in the body doesn't harm you, to, you know, there are physicians out there that have said, I have never had a patient come in with any form of cancer that did not have a root canal or did not have severe dental decay. And when you start to look at the maps of the nerves and the blood supply and the proximity to the brain and the drainage into the heart, it really starts to make sense that as these signals are transgressing the body and passing through the oral cavity and back up through the oral cavity and that decay and parasites and bacteria and viruses that are here, you know, in your mouth, they're easy gateways into the body.
5:30Yeah, correct. Because the biggest misconception is what is an organ, right, when we think about it. So Dorland's Medical Dictionary will define an organ as something that has a nerve, which is a trigeminal nerve that innervates the teeth. Then you've got the blood supply. Then you also have the lymphatic drainage, which we neglect a lot in modern medicine, like lymphatic drainage. Oh, it's just a lymph. No, the lymph is the pathway where everything's going to start spreading. And then the function, mastication, right? You're chewing with the teeth. So each tooth is an organ. If we can believe that and go by that, then if it's dead, why are we keeping it there?
6:07Or if it's infected, why are we keeping it there? Is it okay? Well, if you want something dead in your mouth, then keep it. It's up to the patient. But education is number one. And that's what I'm seeing the most now. Patients are coming in. They're self-educating themselves, which is what we want. That's what you do really well is you're educating people, and then they're learning about it more and more. So they're going to the doctors and figuring it out. like no this is the problem this is what's causing me or holding me back yeah yeah and you know since
6:35Gary Brecka:since my journey with you um i've referred you some of the most famous and impactful people in the world i won't mention their names um they may or may not go public public with their story but i have yet to hear anything other than just astounding stories of you know we have a a mutual friend from Atlanta that recently came to see you. And I won't say his name, but his blood work indicated that he had an autoimmune disease. Correct, yes. And so I called you up and I said, I'm going to make this introduction because during my discussion with him, I said, have you ever had a root canal? And he's like, I've had four.
7:19Gary Brecka:Yeah, I've had wisdom teeth. Yeah, four. Do you have other dental work? And he just talked about bridges and caps. and root canals. And so his mouth was a minefield. I just knew it. And I referred him to you. And even though he was in a lot of pain and recovering very well, I talked to him 48 hours after your procedure. I think he still might've been in New York at the time. And he did not have enough good things to say about you, man. I mean, he was just raving about, For him, it was the instant relief from his low back pain. That's the number one thing that he said to me. Yeah. It went away.
8:00Gary Brecka:Yeah. He's like, and he said, I'm not going to mimic his voice because you'll know who it is. I almost did my impression of who he is. But he called me up and he was like, Gary, I'm not kidding you, man. I am not shitting you. This is not placebo. My back pain is gone and I've had it for years. It is gone. And this has been months now. And I talked to him about four days ago, and he said, it hasn't been back. And so nothing else changed other than he got this procedure done. So if someone is new to biological dentistry, if someone is new to the concept of root canals and cavitations, which are these pockets of infection in the jaw that not all dentists are trained to see, right?
8:45Gary Brecka:You need a special type of x-ray called a cone beam x-ray. If someone's new to this, and wonders if it might be something they should look at to address symptoms they have. What's kind of the myriad, what's the world that these symptoms live in if there's issues in the oral cavity? Just having a cone beam is one thing, and it depends on who's looking at the x-ray, right? Because biological dentistry and holistic dentistry now is being thrown around. It's like real estate agents or day traders. Like everyone's doing it, right? Right, real estate agents and day traders. And that's the problem that we're facing because I see a lot of referrals or second opinions from patients who visited biological dentists.
9:25So it just, it depends on the training and we're working on it. Like you did a podcast with my buddy, Dr. Dom. Oh, yeah. He's awesome. And we're working. He's like the godfather. Yeah. And we're working on trying to get the word out there, like well-trained biological dentists, not just with biological dentists, because now you do how to put that word just because that's the biggest problem that we're facing now. It's just everyone wants to advertise biological dentistry. Right. So the biggest thing is patients are suffering from chronic issues, right? And what we're looking for is, like, I'm a dentist.
9:55I'm not a medical doctor. So leave the medical profession out of this. But when I see the x-ray, I don't even need the medical history because I can just look at each tooth and know what's going on there by looking at the meridian chart as a reference tool. And patients are coming in sick. and these patients want to be better, but they're not getting the right care, right? So the biggest thing we're looking for is if there's metals in the mouth, whether it's titanium, mercury fillings, metal crowns, any teeth that were taken out that weren't clean, like our friend who came in to visit us, he had teeth that were taken out, but they were infected in there, in the jawbone.
10:37Wow. But he was told that everything was fine. And they stitched it shut, and because there's no tooth
10:40Gary Brecka:and maybe even the nerve is dead and the blood supply has been reduced or even eliminated, that's the thing that's important for people to understand. There's no pain associated with this. Correct. It's chronic. Yeah, and it's not like you're stuffy and sneezy and your chest is congested and you have pain in your jaw or you have a lot of phlegm or mucus or things like that. The normal things that would drive you to seek some attention, those are not there. And I think a lot of times because those symptoms aren't there, we think nothing is wrong because we associate an infection with pain, redness, numbness, swelling, you know, some kind of dysfunction.
11:16Gary Brecka:But what are the most common symptoms? And I know there's just an endless myriad of symptoms, but I would say if you were lumping your patients into major categories, what are most of the symptoms that they're coming to you with? Do they have autoimmune? Do they have cardiac issues? Do they have pain somewhere along the meridian chart? Yeah, so autoimmune is big. and cardiac issues and chronic inflammation. And it's hard to determine where it's coming from. Like elevated interleukin 1 and 6, elevated ESRs. So they're coming in with a gamut of diseases. Yeah, so these erythrocyte sedimentation rates and these interleukins that he's referring to are different cytokines, different inflammatory compounds that are secreted from white blood cells in the body in response to an infection or the presence of a parasite or a virus or another pathogen.
12:16Gary Brecka:Just wanted them to know that. So general inflammatory markers would be things like C-reactive protein or homocysteine, you know, other things. So you're saying that they'll have these inflammatory markers in their blood work. Maybe they've been diagnosed with an autoimmune disease out of the blue. Yes. no family history, no real trigger that they can point to. And, you know, chronic infection causes immunofatigue. And we know now that one of the big emerging theories in aging and longevity is this whole concept of immunofatigue, like the progressive slow overwhelm of the immune system. It's like putting a pound in your backpack every day until eventually you have so many pounds back there you just can't right and then the immune system essentially collapse and then bang the fire starts and this is no doubt a part of that sequence of stressors yeah that the immune system has to deal with that eventually cause it to cave i mean when you look at chronic fatigue syndrome it's huge right look at what happened with your wife yeah she had the cavitations but it didn't know why she's always waking up late and now she's up early yeah all of a sudden absolutely true what changed for her she's improving the same protocols that you put her on but yeah that'll work yeah you ruined my good morning babe series it was the most popular series on instagram and you screwed it all up because like i i wake up in the morning like on fire and she slept in and it used to let me go get a workout and get a breath work sunlight then i would come barreling in the room and wake her up and i got so much joy out of that but and and that's what happens when the tooth is taken out like what you're talking about tissue closes so when you take a look inside the mouth the tissue looks beautiful it's nice pink but what's underneath there and when the ligament is left behind what we call the periodontal ligament that causes a root of all evil it just becomes a swamp of pathogens in there and it could be any type of pathogens it doesn't have to necessarily be only bacteria because as a dentist would have trained off bacteria, fight the bacteria.
14:26What about the fungus? What about the parasites? What about the viruses?
14:28Gary Brecka:Yeah, I saw the spirochetes in my blood because one of the things that we did, and if you haven't seen our first podcast, you should really go back and watch it. And right around that time, I did a post on Instagram. If you scroll down, it's probably still on there where we took it and we went back and we put it on a slide and looked at it under a microscope in your office. What was astounding to me was we burst that little sack and we sort of smeared it on a slide, so gross, and looked at it. and you could see the little spirochete parasites, these little helminths, and, excuse me, you could see my white blood cells, my macrophages, kind of going after it like little Pac-Man, which I was, when I looked at that activity and I saw it with my own eyes, and we took that from the bottom of the tooth that you removed, I was not only convinced, I was committed to getting your message out, and that's why I also interviewed Dom and really just trying to spread the word of biologic dentistry because I think pain and symptomology is what drives people to seek attention.
15:32Gary Brecka:And unfortunately, this has symptoms, but they're not the symptoms that you link back to the oral cavity. There are symptoms of other kinds of chronic disease, autoimmune, cardiovascular, psychiatric, but you're not linking these back to the oral cavity because you don't have any symptoms here correct and that's where well first thank you for getting the message out there i mean you've made a world of difference with biological dentists like i've done this all around the world that i'm friends with really and by us doing that podcast it helped get the word out there and we're not afraid of talking about it right before the message was like hey don't don't talk about it just do it And we've known each other for a while.
16:16Yeah, sadly, because it's outside the box.
16:17Gary Brecka:Correct. And it's so hard to get that message out. But now it's like, okay, well, the science is backing us. There's nothing weird we're doing. We're just following the science. And if someone is having these issues, like you talked about psych issues, well, if you have pathogens on your trigeminal nerve, they're going to go connect to the vagus nerve down over near your neck area and then go shoot up back to your brain. So now you're in sympathetic and parasympathetic. Your body can't decide. So of course you're going to have psychosis. You're going to have all these issues. So if we can get every medical profession out there, hey, like treat the patient, but bring a panorex, bring an x-ray, just a visualization, a 2D visualization of what you have going on.
17:02And just simplicity. You're not going to diagnose. I mean, just take a look. Oh, well, you had some dental work here. They'll find the proper dentist and see if this can be correlated. And we work as a team. Because that's the only way to get this out there and get optimal health for patients.
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17:57Gary Brecka:Is that something that you're working on so that, you know, obviously not everybody can fly into New York to see you. You're in Long Island. But is there a place, if I'm in Kansas or I'm in California or I'm in Texas and I watch this podcast, I'm like, man, I got to go get with a biologic dentist. Is there a registry that we can find? There is. We're going to – we'll give the link so then everyone can see it. Okay, so I'll link that in the show notes. Because it's also not just a biological dentist. We want to make sure that they're fully trained. Okay, great. And they can follow the same protocols, like the same protocols that were used on you, used in Sage, used on even Max, everybody.
18:33Yeah, yeah, yeah. We can talk about this because they saw the paper form. Throw Max out there.
18:37Gary Brecka:just through your medical information yeah to two million people yeah um no you've worked on my whole team i mean with with incredible results you actually owe max a tooth too he owes two people in this room dude come on bro you guys are so busy you just come monday but i like don't stop did you bring it with you i mean can we pop it in on the podcast here you go what was actually really cool is the last time i was in there i was like hey you know by the way i chipped this tooth right here and you're like no problem fix the little chip that i had in my tooth real real quick um like like like a macgyver but um yeah i mean calling attention to it is um important and i think you know uh when you went in there and and removed the tooth from me last time i was really uh it made perfect sense the mechanics of what you were doing because um you ran ozone and down into my jaw um you ran red light i even think green light into my jaw and um and then you took my blood spun it down and made these little slugs called uh prf platelet-rich fibrin and and packed them into the to the wound so took take my platelets which remember platelets are um these cells that carry growth factors and they're all the healing power of the human body and most people most people have heard of prp platelet-rich plasma um you know it's infamous for being injected into joints and whatnot but when you can actually concentrate the power of the human body in one location i was actually very surprised how well i healed um how little pain that i had you know i had some pain that night which you handle with motrin but um uh i didn't take pain medication after the first night um didn't really interrupt my sleep and interrupted my chewing for a few days stitches healed um it's completely was painless thereafter but what i got out of it the level of mental clarity and the the fact that all of these symptoms you know almost immediately disappeared was astounding but what i remember from the surgery is when the tooth came out there wasn't it didn't bleed much at all correct and and my gum was very light pink and it was oxygen deprived and you said that's a bad sign and i remember you worked on it until we saw the bright red flesh fresh blood because you wanted that blood supply to return you wanted the immune system to be able to get there you wanted to be able to flush out the toxins um and it just made so much sense to me um i remember when i had the root canal done it was like wham bam thank you ma 'am it was just i mean the waiting room was full there was a line of um treatment rooms in this dental office i went to i won't say who it was but a line of treatment rooms and all these dentists did was root canals and they were just turning people through there and um i mean he he drilled it did the root canal packed it and i was out the door so fast i almost felt like wow that was that was a really quick procedure i wonder if he got everything i want if he sanitized i just i had that on my mind and then when we looked at the cone beam x-ray there was an air gap in there and then the infection correct um and i think dentistry is probably the only practice of medicine that still believes you can leave dead tissue in the body yeah a cardiologist doesn't believe that nephrologists don't believe that you know a colorectal surgeon would tell you remove the bowel's necrotic you got to take it out right the the crazy part for that is like when you think of if a tooth is sensitive right you put a little desensitizer on there there's two million tubules on a tooth or more right on each tooth so whenever you do the the root canal procedure you're taking out the main nerve the tooth so now it's dead so all of a sudden sensitivity goes away but think of a tooth like a sponge it's going to soak up all the water that you spilled.
22:23Now, when you do that procedure, do you think all the two million tubules are plugged? No, but they did a great service for you. Cause if you had severe pain or acute pain, got to get you out of pain.
22:34Gary Brecka:Right. So the procedure still is necessary in dentistry, but what's going to happen after the fact we need to plan for the future to prevent any other disease from starting. Right. Cause there is going to be something that happens. We all start breaking down somehow. Right. And if we want optimal health, then, okay, well, this is a problem here. What are we going to address it now or in the future, a few years from now, if you, whenever. But at least the patient has a game plan. Yeah. Right. You know, what was really interesting is you and I geek out a lot. We text things back and forth. I mean, look at this study.
23:08Look at this study. The photos. Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah.
23:11Gary Brecka:He sends me some gnarly surgical photos, which maybe I'll throw a couple of in the show notes so you guys can, if you're as gory as I am. But they all have a happy ending. That's probably not the best part. That's not a good thing. Yeah, it's not. They all have a bright spot at the end of the story. And where you see these mouths just wrecked and torn apart and then this beautiful smile emerge. And one of the articles that you sent me that I took a deep dive on was actually looking at the pathogens that are in some of these root canals identified as the same pathogens that they're finding in a lot of cardiac pathology, including plaquing, scarring, narrowing, calcifications, atherosclerosis, arteriosclerosis.
23:57Gary Brecka:And then they talk about it in this study, and I'll put the link in the show notes below because I don't want you to have to make a medical claim. But when they were mapping these pathways, you know, directly down to the heart, and you can see that these bacteria and these pathogens have a wide open hallway to walk through. There are not even any closed doors right into cardiac pathology. And the fact that they were able to isolate the exact pathogenic species from the jaw in the heart and as the genesis of some of these pathologies, my head was like, poof, you know, it just exploded. And I believe that dentists like yourself, especially under this new administration, I think you're going to see a wider lane opening under Maha for practicing this type of dental medicine because right now the standard of care or the scope of practice sometimes keeps physicians and dentists in a certain box, and there's risk going up inside of that.
25:10Gary Brecka:Um, and I think as we drive patient awareness, which hopefully this podcast will do, um, you know, hopefully we'll see those things become a little more. Yeah. I agree with you, you know, with, uh, we have a surgeon general, but we don't have a dentist general, right? That's a good point. There's no, there's, there's nobody. And hopefully it will be Casey means here very soon. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, and hopefully she considers a dentist on her team as well because without your teeth, what are you going to do? How do you process foods? How are you going to get things into your body through an IV?
25:46Gary Brecka:Trying to get her on the podcast on the 21st. So I'll ask her if she lands. I have her brother. Yeah, 100%. Because it's something that we just got to work as a team. And if we work as a team, then we can figure out the root of disease, chronic issues. And maybe we don't need to spend as much money on medical care. So if somebody's had a root canal, I mean, it's possible that it's not infected, right? Correct. It's probably 100%. If it's done really well, 100%. Yeah. But if you've had a root canal and you don't have any symptoms, what are some of the reasons why you should go seek a biologic dentist?
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26:22Yeah. So to trace it through the meridian chart, are they having any issues like for you? Like, okay, well, I'm not going to ask you if your toe is bothering you as a dentist, right? But if you'd let me know. actually yeah i did when i took the picture of the two yeah i knew what was going on because i saw you stomp your toe a few times before yeah yeah exactly why do you keep stomping yeah we just tap it and then when then after that i'm like okay i put it together i'm like hey this is what's
26:46Gary Brecka:going on dude you asked me about left anterior shoulder pain left lower lobe pain and my left big toe i mean it was so specific and by the time you got into the lung i was like you're freaking me out a little bit when you said the toe yeah i really freaked out because i didn't even i've even told sage you know that it's not like i'm walking around going you know once in a while my toe itches yeah it just was like a thing that wasn't one of those things that would drive you to the emergency room or make me go to the urgent care and i always thought it was like i just sat on my leg wrong and i would only get that catch when i would uh exercise but it was the exact same spot on the left side every time yeah so i was like maybe that's just where i'm getting a diaphragm cramp and then the shoulder was like maybe i just have a minor bicep issue you know it's like biohacker i'm like i kind of know what that is it's oh yeah that's bicep tendon um but then bang it was it was gone and i and when you walked in today i said i've got to tell you so many of the referrals that i've sent to you have text me and i showed you some of the texts when you got here have text me with these miraculous turnarounds in things that they thought were chronic or totally unrelated yeah and no i appreciate that because i treated hundreds of patients who come from the podcast even got some um testimonials that they wrote yeah you know for you do we have a rep share in place with him should we be getting no i'm just kidding no i love no no i love the fact that you're doing this you know they're flying in from around the world because of this and they can't find the right care and going back to your story i freak got a lot of my friends and people i'm with because they're like oh what the hell like how's how's he know but all you need is a 2d x-ray a panorex like and just to take a look not for any diagnosis and then compare it to the meridian chart the meridian chart we have one interactive on our website you can just click on each tooth and it'll tell you the references of what it it points to and it's 5 000 year old chinese medicine but yeah they figured it out so it's nothing that i'm doing that's new they they laid out the groundwork and just following it right And it works every time.
28:53And they might not have symptoms. Like you didn't have symptoms all the time. But that once in a while, maybe like five minutes a day becomes ten minutes a day, then an hour a day, and then it becomes every single day. And then you just get used to it. You're like, oh, whatever. I'll take a Motrin. I'll take an Advil or whatever, you know, for it. And I just learned to live with it. But why are you living with it? The body should heal. That sign of one thing off should be a light bulb. I need to get checked out. Right. Yeah.
29:21Gary Brecka:I totally agree. And I think, you know, there's, you know, the pandemic probably did all of us a big favor and it sort of woke people up to wellness and becoming a citizen scientist, taking a lot of these choices into our own hands. And I think if nothing else, um, if you find a biologic dentist, I mean, there's no harm in going in, making an appointment and getting a cone beam x-ray, if that's what correct they use. Um, and just seeing for certainty. Because I'm not sure that some of these full body scans, like a Pronovo, clearly is all the heart. Yeah, they won't show it even clearly. No, you need a dental 3D CT.
30:00Because I've gotten those quite a bit. Your daughter. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She's like, hey, what's going on with this person? I kind of see a little bit here, you know, but definitely a dental 3D scan or a CT scan.
30:11Gary Brecka:But the Pronovo will kind of wake you up and say, there might be a pathology here, and then you can go in and zero in on it. Yeah. But going back to the cardiac issues, like the plaque, right? If they had the wisdom teeth, we know according to marine chart are connected to the heart, right? All four chambers of the heart. Now, if you have elevated what we talked about before with cytokines, this is Rantes or CCL5. If it's elevated, that can cause plaque in the vessels. But the Pronovo scan might not show it yet. But in the future, it's developing, right? So if there's an issue here in the jawbone, we should address that prior to the plaque showing up.
30:51Right, right.
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32:46Their patients want to, and these patients are asleep, so the next day I see them, their eyes just are totally different.
32:51Gary Brecka:Really? Yeah, it just clears it up. There's just something about it. I mean, it makes sense. All the pathogens are here, right? Your eyes, and they clear up. But the ones who are awake when I do the procedure, when I get that last little speck out of there cleaned up, you can just feel the energy. It happened on you, too. It happened on everybody. max everybody right yeah as soon as i get that speck out it's the blood's flowing like hey how you doing all of a sudden it's totally different they feel it right because it just opens up it's like brain fog gone psychosis gone it's insane like joint pain gone shoulder pain neck pain you name it it just there could be other stuff there you know but they're starting to feel the difference there it makes a lot of sense to me because um you know along the lines of this immunofatigue a lot of the viruses some that you just named people think that they catch these viruses but very often you don't catch them these are not things that are happening to you they're things that are happening within you right because there are things that um uh you've always had that are becoming recurrent so if you had mono in eighth grade let's say um it comes back as have steam bar as an adult.
34:04Gary Brecka:If you had chicken pox, you know, it comes back as shingles. If you have the JV virus, it can lead to, you know, infections in the brain. So these are viruses that are already woven into our DNA. And the immune system doesn't have a problem silencing these. Every time a cell divides and replicates, these viruses are silenced. But when you have a chronic low-grade infection, I think the important thing to understand is, yes, our immune system is good at managing these things, but only for a period of time, right? It's like, you know, even the greatest fighters rest. They don't just stay in the ring and fight.
34:43Gary Brecka:And if the immune system is in this low-grade fight constantly, it gets exhausted, the immune system runs down, and this is what triggers these viral pathogens. And so, you know, you're not saying, you know, the root canal caused the Epstein-Barr, but the root canal caused the infection, which ran down the immune system, which allowed for this EBV infection or a cytomegalovirus infection or it allowed a Lyme infection to become recurrent or shingles or any number of things. It makes perfect sense because you are depleting the police force that's there to protect you. And are there specific markers when you're looking at the blood of patients that have these infections um what kind of markers would they see it's not going to be on typical blood work correct i mean maybe c-reactive protein but what kind of markers would you see on a panel or would you pull to see if maybe a chronic infection might be the underlying issue so the problem is majority time it shows nothing right you can pull the interleukin 1 interleukin 6 tnf alpha rante's or ccl5 it's going to show nothing but you have these hidden chronic infections the problem is the body has walled it off.
35:59The jaw, not the body. The jawbone has walled this infection off, basically encapsulated it, right? So the blood can't get to it. And it's just a swamp inside. So that's the biggest problem. That's one of the reasons why it goes undiagnosed or hidden for years. So trying to get the blood work and saying, okay, well, where's this coming from? It's not one of those things that we do routinely because knowing that, hey, there's a chronic issue inside here, let's clean it up. and then let's see what happens. And once it's cleaned up, everything goes perfect enough.
36:33Gary Brecka:What would you say are the most common three, four, five symptoms that you see? Having treated so many patients, when they get in the chair, is it headaches? Is it neurological issues? Is it brain fog? What are some of the unresolved things that you hear over and over again? So brain fog? Brain fog. So IBS or gut issues, right? With bowel syndrome. Fatigue, joint issues. Fibromyalgia? Well, that's part of it, right? I feel like fibromyalgia and chronic fatigue are these big casting nets that don't really mean anything. Well, they do. I mean, they give you a name for the symptoms you're having.
37:14Gary Brecka:But I don't feel like when you're told you have chronic fatigue or fibromyalgia that it's a thing that you can treat. Correct. So you hear that pretty... Yeah. And autoimmune. Autoimmune. Yeah. It's... And autoimmune is so vast. Yeah. Same thing like fibromyalgia is vast, right? Joint pain is so vast. And it's because something is off. Their immune system, like you just said, it's constantly fight or flight. Right. Constantly sympathetic overdrive. And it doesn't know what to do. And then the trigeminal nerve is linked to the vagus nerve. They're connected. So now if someone can't get into parasympathetic, how are they supposed to digest their food?
37:53How are they supposed to do that? You can give them all the supplements you want in the world. They're like, it's not working.
37:58Gary Brecka:Right. Because they're stuck in this fight or flight state. You know, it's interesting. I was preparing for a talk not too long ago and I was just looking up stats on autoimmune disease. And depending on the autoimmune disease, it ranges between 80 and 90 plus percent of all autoimmune disease is idiopathic, meaning of unknown origin. So somewhere between 80 and 90 and sometimes more than 90 % of the time, I don't remember the exact statistics for each one, but my jaw hit the floor. When you're told that you have an autoimmune disease, Hashimoto's, chagrins, lupus, Crohn's, when you're told that you have this autoimmune disease, it's of unknown origin.
38:44Gary Brecka:They go, well, we don't really know why you had it. Oh, well, you know, your aunt on your mom's side had it and your uncle on your father's side had it. So it's probably familial, even though there's no gene that, you know, would be linked to that autoimmune disease. And if that vast percentage of autoimmune disease where you're led to believe, okay, you woke up one morning and your immune system decided to just randomly attack the colon, So now you have Crohn's. It decided to randomly attack the thyroid. So you have Hashimoto's. It randomly attacked the lacrimal gland in your eye. You have chagrins.
39:22Gary Brecka:It's hard to subscribe to that. Like I woke up one day and my immune system just went haywire. Very likely you woke up one day and the immune system couldn't keep whatever it was at bay any longer. And the sad thing about most people that are diagnosed with an autoimmune disease is that's when the search stops. because they say you have Hashimoto's, so you need levothyroxine, synthroid, armothyroid for the rest of your life. And the patient goes, okay, I have this disease, probably got it from my ancestor. And the search stops. But that's kind of where the search should begin, in my opinion, because I don't believe anything, and I don't have all the answers, but I just don't believe that anything in the human body is idiopathic.
40:07Gary Brecka:I don't think anything is of an unknown origin. I believe that we not know what it is, but a diagnosis should not be out of thin air, of unknown origin. That should start the search, not end the search. Yeah. You know what I mean? I agree. I just recently met a doctor in St. Louis, and he said something very special to me. He's like, I treat the symptom, not the diagnosis. I was like, that's very interesting because we're so into diagnosis, ICD-9 codes or ADA codes. It's like, hey, this is the dental code. This is the medical code. Everyone needs a diagnosis. No, let's go back. Take a step back.
40:44Look at the symptoms. What are the symptoms? How are we going to challenge the body to fix itself? So if we get rid of whatever's blockage, the body can heal. And that's what I love about the human body. And that's why I got along with them so well, because we're both in the same field. You're a medical doctor, I'm a dentist. This is what we want, because a human body can heal. And it heals really well. like it's god's given gift somehow created us to heal yes but we have these obstacles and roadblocks in the way yeah and then you label like oh you have a diagnosis here's hashimoto's or here's lupus and then just deal with it but then what do you how do you deal with it you get a pill but if you can't digest then how how's it gonna work like it's like let's go back to the basics and that's the fun part about biological dentistry it's like i love playing detective work with the patients It's like, okay, well, when was this first thing done for you?
41:32Okay, let's go back in time. Did something happen? Did something change for you? Teenagers all the time, they're like, they would call it freshman 15 or 20, whatever it's called now. They're like, yeah, I started to gain weight. And I started having gut issues. But what did you have a few months prior? Oh, yeah, I just saw the dentist. I got my wisdom teeth taken out right before I go to college. Okay, well, that's the only thing you had done? Anything else? They're like, no. Okay, so maybe we should just take a look there. and that's our starting point because if your life changed from that starting point, let's go back to it and let's see what we can do and how to make a difference for you.
42:07Gary Brecka:Yeah. Yeah, and I think that this is opening up a whole field. Have you seen, and I'm not asking you to make a medical claim by any means, but have you observed patients that had autoimmune conditions of any kind go into remission or have you seen their antibodies turn off to the point where we would say, okay, that condition is now under remission? Yeah, I have a patient who allowed me to share her testimony, Natasha. Really? Yeah, her autoimmune is gone. Epstein-Barr virus is gone. Really? Where can I see that testimony? Right here. Oh, right here. I could post it. Yeah, she gave me a whole testimony.
42:44Oh, she did? Yeah, yeah. All right, so I'll throw in the show notes. Yeah, yeah. Okay, that's great. Thank you, Natasha. Yeah.
42:49Gary Brecka:What autoimmune did she have? Epstein-Barr virus. and something, I don't know the specifics about it, but she went into the whole detail. And then she had joint pain and completely gone. Everything was gone. So many people with diffuse joint pain. And do you think that that's because the immune system is distracted or do you think that these bugs are migrating to low blood flow areas of the body like joints, tendons, ligaments, cartilage surfaces, things like that where they can retreat. Lyme disease, for example, is infamous for hiding in what's called the dorsal root ganglion. So retreating to this area of really limited blood flow.
43:30Gary Brecka:It's like running into a dark alley so the authorities can't really see you. I mean, the viruses are great at doing that. I think it's both actually because there's also the parasites there, right? But the two parts I would say to that is, one, that it's inhibiting the blood flow or the electrode. Because if we look at the meridian charts or the meridian pathways, it's energy flow. So if we're, and the human body's high-powered electricity. So if electricity wires cut, it can't flow anymore. But if you look at high-powered lines, like an electrical plant, electricity can jump, and that's how the human body is.
44:04So it tries to make it up, and it's like, I'm going to keep on going and going until I can't anymore. So when the flow is stopped, that's when the disease starts. So that's part of it. Another part, it's definitely hiding on the nerve itself because when I clean up the jawbone, especially in the wisdom teeth area, I could see the inferior alveolar nerve, which is what we call the IAN nerve. That gives us innervation sensory to our lower jaw. And literally yesterday I was cleaning up. I could see the whole strand there, but I'm cleaning all the pathogens off of it. And an x-ray, you just see a black area and a white circle, so you know that's the nerve.
44:37Okay, but how deep and how infected it is, you don't know until you get in there. And when you get in there, I'm like, oh, that's this whole nerve there. And I'm cleaning those. So now imagine all those pathogens, just not viruses, but parasites, mold, or fungus, and bacteria, they're making their way back up into the brain, because they love that nerve. Right. They love this retrograde axonal transport, right? So they want to go backwards. And now from there, now they've got access to the rest of the body, because they're going to communicate with each other, and they'll make themselves wherever they want to go hide.
45:07And then that's where the joint pain or disease or organ stuff.
45:11Gary Brecka:And I think it's important to point out, that's why it's not linked to just one thing. right i mean that's why it can it can manifest itself in so many different ways you know i talked about this with this condition diffuse vasculitis or dystonia vasculitis where there's um certain thing i won't say what that thing is you can probably read between the lines which causes proliferation of spike protein and causes the lining of the vessel to be irritated and inflamed and when you inflame that much surface area in the body which is about six tennis courts versus the surface area of the skin, which is about half a tennis court.
45:46Gary Brecka:And I'm talking about the lining of the blood. So you get an inflammatory condition, diffuse vasculitis, dystonia vasculitis, in this part of the body. You've interrupted the most important blood-brain exchange in a human being because now nutrients and raw materials, vitamins, minerals, amino acids, what have you, that are in the blood cannot exit into the tissue and waste from the tissue, and I don't mean stool or you, and I mean cellular waste, can't exit the tissue and get back into the blood. And so the myriad of symptoms that come from this is not just singular. And that's why people have a hard time accepting that this one hub can lead to all of these spokes.
46:33Gary Brecka:And I feel like biologic dentistry is like this. You know, this one infection in the jaw, whether it's parasitic, viral, bacterial, or combination, or fungal, or mold, or mycotoxin, this infection can manifest itself like this, like this, like this. I mean, it goes from noon all the way back around a day. Yes. And I think when something has that diffuse of a myriad of symptoms, it's hard to say it's that. And that's why I think it's so important to just bring awareness to this because it may be as simple as you finding a biologic dentist in this registry that you're going to share with us and going in, making an appointment and saying, let's get our teeth cleaned and let's just do this comb beam x-ray just for peace of mind.
47:20Gary Brecka:It's like going in and getting a Pronovo scan or a full body MRI and do this, you know, just for peace of mind. Yeah, like one of the patients you shared and she also said I could say her name, Amelia, She came up and Sage talked to her for a while and she was like, you know, on the fence of what was going on. So she came up and she's like, I have trouble lifting my kid. And that was touching because it's a newborn and she can't lift her child. And I was like, okay. And then she's telling me she has symptoms with IBS and chronic joint age. Like, okay, we did the surgery. Next day, she's lifting the little kid.
47:56Like, what's going on? Like, my pain's gone. I'm like, there's no way.
47:59Gary Brecka:I'm like, there's no way. totally about that and that's why i'm stunned it gives me goosebumps every time the next day i'm like wow now her big boss is in this yeah yeah and her ibs is gone she's like i don't want to share like you know yeah am i but she's like completely gone she always had trouble yeah and i was like okay because and that just confirms like because i do all the studying it takes like 7 500 hours to graduate dental school in four years just education i mean i've studied over 25 000 hours after that because just me and you like how we geek out and when i see something it's like go down that rabbit hole yeah reading oh no you're always sending me slides from lectures and i'll fly half of these i would love to go to yeah you know it's interesting because it's like i i fly around the world to go go learn because it's like this is just wait you just did that and that person healed what am i doing wrong or how did i mess up on somebody because it's a hippocratic oath it's an ethical duty of mine it's like i can't do something wrong and if i did something i need to reverse it yeah and and it's just it's it goes all around and that's the thing with it's hard to pinpoint one symptom or one issue but you know what's really exciting about that is i often try to make the argument that usually multiple things in the human body don't fail at the same time they don't like you don't wake up with a mental illness an autoimmune disease irritable bowel syndrome you know uh chronic infection a viral pathogen parasite uh you know paresthesias all of these things usually what happens is one thing goes wrong that causes everything instead of multiple things failing at the same time and we rarely go back and look at what was the first domino to fall and we're so far down the line of dominoes that we're going well you know you don't think like i just had a client and i am not a physician and not licensed to practice medicine i was there uh with a licensed physician what was really interesting is he had a pretty severe neurological condition which they thought was parkinson's he didn't respond to the parkinson's treatment and um and it's getting progressively and progressively and progressively work and then and then we're looking through the blood work, and there are all these specific interleukins.
50:17Gary Brecka:So all of these cytokines secreted from white blood cells. And if you actually map the different interleukins, it will kind of tell you what that white blood cell was in the presence of. It will secrete a certain interleukin for one kind of enemy, and it will secrete a different interleukin for another kind of enemy. And so I was looking at all these interleukins, I go, you know what's really interesting is each of these interleukins are cytokine secretions for the presence of a virus. So this definitely looks viral. And we looked at the urine test and it was like, wow, they have a Borrelia bacteria, which is a Lyme co-infection bacteria in their urine, really high levels of this Lyme co-infection bacteria.
51:05Gary Brecka:And then we start to back up the clock and lo and behold, I talked to him and he's like, yeah, I had Lyme disease in 2018. And my head went, and I was like, how did the neurologist miss this? Because that's not something that should be discarded. So what happened was this infection happened. They thought it was fixed. It stayed low grade. And then the dominoes started to fall, autoimmune, and neural inflammatory conditions, you know, a showing up as a neurological disorder, then showing up in the prefrontal cortex and then affecting memory and then mood and then emotion. And so by the time you get as far down the road as we were, you're not really thinking of how do we go all the way back to the beginning and see if we can find that first domino.
51:58Gary Brecka:Let's just start standing these things up in reverse. And I feel like for a lot of people, these oral cavitations are that domino yeah um because it's especially frustrating for people like me that i would consider to be you know taking fairly good care of themselves right i don't certainly don't profess to be mother theresa but i'm conscious of the food that i'm eating i'm conscious of my sleep i'm conscious of my air and my water and and uh you know so and there are a lot of people like that. We exercise regularly, get sunlight, all the things. And yet there's something that's just off that you can't put a finger on.
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53:56And then all of a sudden they're on this diet and they're like i just got sick was it the diet that made me sick or was it what i have inside my mouth then you have patients who are overweight obese they're like everything's fine on them their mouths are a complete mess because their bodies of visceral fat can secure the toxins like visceral fat abdominal fat holds on to toxins right then they start to lose weight and they're like i just got sick i should just get gained the weight back no it's you lost the the whole thing started years ago when you had all this done you gained the weight there's a reason why you gained the weight not just because of poor lifestyle it's because you couldn't digest the food properly because you went into sympathetic overdrive but your body was handling it and then you decided hey i want to go to you want to get healthy again i want to lose all this weight which is great then you got sick yeah so they're like damn what did i do wrong I should have just been overweight.
54:54That's a complete wrong thing to do. We got to go back to that starting point. And that's the fun part. That's the part where the patient has to be their own advocate, do a timeline. And that just helps us all out. It helps you out because you overlook a lot of people's care underneath the medical team, right? And it just helps get to that, okay, well, now that's where it started. Let's go look at that. And then if we get to that starting point and everything just arises.
55:20Gary Brecka:Yeah, totally agree. You know, so I think we've hammered home the need for people to get this checked out. You know, I often talk about my morning routine, my sleep routine, and part of my morning routine, and I want to get your opinion on this, is, you know, taking our oral care routine from just being the bare minimum, which is just brush your teeth, to what I would call like platinum oral care routine. So how important, in your opinion, is it to add tongue scraping, flossing, things like oil pulling um are you a fan of those because like my oral routine is i use a hydroxy appetite toothpaste i'm not a huge fan of using the high fluoride toothpaste um floss at night um you know swish uh i tongue scrape at night and in the morning with a copper tongue scraper because remember the copper is not the important thing it's just that it doesn't harbor the bacteria 100 yeah um and a lot of these are plastic or they're um you know aluminum they just don't have the same capacity to be bactericidal as copper and those those things are dirt cheap i mean i think you can get it for five six bucks on amazon but it is astounding how much better i feel when i just add those few little things just the tongue scraping i keep a little dish of uh organic extra virgin olive oil and i'll just take a half a tablespoon of it and i'll swish as long as i can I never do 12 or 15 minutes like the thing said.
56:46Gary Brecka:It's like, dude, your mouth gets exhausted. 30 seconds feels like 10 minutes. My ADHD kicks in. I'm like, screw this, dude. This is like, this is an absolute pain in the ass.
56:59Gary Brecka:But amazing how much better I feel. And my gums used to be really sensitive. They're not sensitive at all now. My teeth are not sensitive at all. um so how how how important is that oral care routine and where would you say each of those things falls on the spectrum the tongue scraping 100 super important uh mouthwash i would get rid of yeah i don't pour it out because the biggest thing is some of our floor cleaners or antiseptics whatever you're using biggest problem with mouth uh washes you're wiping out the good bacteria plus a bad bacteria but then you're also low in nitric oxide right because it starts from the back of the tongue so then people are low in nitric oxide low in energy so just get rid of that coconut oil pulling virgin olive oil pulling 100 important probably at least five minutes you know okay do you recommend 10 minutes but yeah just get five minutes three to five i think yeah so and then don't don't spit it down in the bathtub you know put it like someone's gonna slip after you yeah yeah don't spit it yeah i don't know if you shouldn't be spitting in your bathtub anyway i mean that's a whole different discussion but i spit it into the garbage can because i'm afraid that it will like cool off and coagulate again.
58:05Gary Brecka:That'll be a problem. I think. With toothpaste, that's the biggest thing. I use a tooth powder because any time a paste is formed, there might be a chemical in there. So I use a tooth powder. Okay. It has beta-aligned clay in it. It has cinnamon in it. Okay. Hydroxyapatite in it, like particle form. So I like using that. Yeah. I've used the dry chewable tablets too. I've used those before too. I forget what the brand was. if i find out i'll link in the show notes no i don't have affiliation with any of those but but you know that's made a huge difference flossing and oil pulling has made a huge difference man if you just want your mouth to feel good correct brush tongue scrape floss really well and then oil pull either with something really thin like a coconut oil i mean a uh extra virgin olive oil um or i take i take the whole coconut oil thing and pull it in there man when you spit that out when you're done, I don't know.
59:01Gary Brecka:Something feels like just healthy and alive in there. And it adds two or three minutes to your oral care routine and five bucks to your budget. Well, the floss is super important, right? So you got to make sure it doesn't have PFAs, all those forever chemicals in there because a lot of the floss is not good. It has plastics. Now you got microplastic toxicity going into your gums. Remember those blood vessels? all the gums are alive right yeah now you just wear some good um floss so no affiliation yeah coco floss is one of them coco yeah and then david's has one um which are you have a clean and okay everything clean but a water pick a simple water pick yeah water picks yeah that will do the trick right it'll get the food out in between the teeth naturally like flossing super important because we're told flossing is important but really the teeth can remineralize if you have the right diet and taking good care of yourself the teeth are going to remineralize it's hard for food if food's getting stuck between your teeth there's a problem there either you have recession periodontal disease it's to get over to the dentist and figure out why you're getting food stuck between the teeth right majority of the time food should not there's spillways that you just washed right between but it's amazing how many times i swish at night and i'll see like a little particle come out yeah you know and i'm just like just happy that i did it um well what else does my audience need to know um about biologic dentistry why they should seek you know uh consult with a biologic dentist or what symptom might they be having right now that they can't put a finger on where your antenna goes up and says you should come see somebody like me that's exactly why they should see a biological dentist because no that's exactly why because they cannot know what you said last because no one could figure out what's going on and the biggest one of the biggest problems with that is i'm like the 30th person they see they've been around everywhere they spend so much money on their health care they're so skeptical by the time they come yeah and then they're like okay fine i'll just do it and then they're like i should have started here i'm like yeah unfortunately like dentists were the tail we should be the head we should be a teeth in the head right we should be the first one right go see um it's important to see everybody but we should be up at the top priority but if i have something that no one could figure out definitely go see a biological dentist amazing but the other thing is preventative care right why wait for something to go wrong just get the scan done go to the right biological nice we'll put a link there i'll get you the link so this way get checked out and if something's there you don't need to go after it right away if you don't want to but at least now you know and you you can plant right right and you know the the major thing in biological dentistry is is the ones that we're trained uh we look for any metals anything that's titanium any anything mercury or whatever you want it the silver fillings whatever you want to call it these days because there's so much vast you know there's so much bureaucracy behind it uh the metal crowns or gold crowns gold crowns were called the gold standard but it's actually causing galvanic shock it's causing great electrocution yeah you know it's like touching a nine-volt battery yeah don't touch it all day long you've actually shown me some of the um images when you take these teeth off and they've got the um they've got those metal yeah it's all black underneath it's all black underneath because it's just been a low voltage battery yeah and now how do you save that tooth that tooth is dead it's been dead for long in time like form and function was okay that's traditional dentistry but biological dentistry is going past form and function right so we want to see what what else is going on with that tooth right right um the next thing is if you have a dead tooth or root canal treated tooth if there's something a dead tooth meaning it was injured you got into an accident whatever might be discolored get that checked out there could be a low grade infection underneath there that's hidden.
1:02:50And then if you had a tooth taken out and it wasn't taken out with the biological dentist, just get it checked out to see if there's something there. The bite is, of course, is important. And then the oral gut connection. That's huge because everything's metabolic. If the gut's not working, how's your body going to ever process anything? So those are the five major things. The first three things are always like the routine. The other two, we want to make sure. And not everyone needs perfect bite. We all want one perfect bite like the right to occlude each other but as long as it's adequate we're okay because there's
1:03:22Gary Brecka:a lot of other things to do majority of the time right so for my audience that didn't see the first podcast and doesn't know who you are um how do they find you how they find out more about you um where can they locate you yeah so they can go to tooth and body.com tooth and body yeah.com and then there's a interactive meridian chart that we talked about we stressed on this podcast and they could there's a link there they can put an inquiry and then we'll get back to them Okay, super. Absolutely. And you know the final question because you answered it last time. It's coming. What does it mean to you to be an ultimate human?
1:03:54Gary Brecka:So, you know, things have changed, right? Because last time we did it, yeah. He's going to say to be filthy rich. No. Money's a byproduct of everything, right? So it's optimal health care, right? We all want to be healthy. And the thing is there's so many blocks. because there's so much information coming at us. Like, oh, do this, do this, or do this, do that, right? It's breaking it down and learning how to be the best person I could be. And what's changed a lot is my spirit. This is something that's become more spiritual. And the energy flow. And it's just wild how to track. So, yeah, man, it's just fun, dude.
1:04:39Yeah, that's so good. It's fun, man.
1:04:41Gary Brecka:You're singing my tune, man. And I'm a big believer in the power of prayer, which is essentially the law of attraction and the law of abundance and frequency and, you know, tying into the quantum because there is a lot more that we don't understand and that we can't yet specifically explain. I agree. There is science that explains what we don't understand, but we won't understand it because it's too far out there. Yeah. Right? And there are machines out there, gadgets that measure the meridians, the electrical voltage, right? But it's just phenomenal. And when you connect with those people, it's like we were supposed to be in the room together.
1:05:22Somehow we took a flight from Europe coming from Germany. Someone's coming from Switzerland. Someone's coming from Mexico. We were just supposed to be in that room together.
1:05:30Gary Brecka:Yeah, it's wild. I totally agree with you. You know, totally off topic. but Sage and I just recently went to the pyramids in Egypt and a lot of people talk about this feeling when you're there this sort of presence of some kind of force or spirit and when you're standing there and you're looking at these 72 ton rocks solid pieces of granite that weigh 72 tons apiece and you see them stacked hundreds of feet high and we're applying all these modern engineering you know theories on how it happened and you see that from one corner of the pyramid to the other corner of the pyramid it's only sank um eight millimeters eight millimeters i used to live in a building in miami called the porsche tower yeah and it's i remember the building yeah the round one that had the car elevator in it and i read an article like five weeks ago and if you live in the porsche tower no it's not going to fall into the ocean but i read an article that they went up and did an engineering survey and the building had sank on one side um 3.7 inches oh wow i'm like okay that thing was built in 2018 yeah and it has sank three and a half inches 3.7 inches the pyramids have been there for 5 000 years yeah and they there's a difference of eight millimeters yeah from one side to the other i mean it's so it's it's such a yeah you know low-grade slope that you know you can pour water on one side it won't run to the other it's just fascinating to me and i don't go i'm not down the alien rabbit hole i'm not you know um i'm not saying anything supernatural but you realize that there is a lot that we don't understand i think that you know our society went one way and with our understanding of combustion engines and pulleys and levers and traditional science but there's a whole other science you know that i think is now becoming more mainstream about spirit spirituality and by spirituality, I don't necessarily mean religion, but spirituality, our connection to each other, purpose, commitment, the effect that emotional states have on our health, gratitude versus vengeance.
1:07:43Gary Brecka:And so I think you're right. Yeah, I agree 100%. Since we've known each other, this has been a spiritual journey for me. It's not religious. It's just something about energy and something of how the human body just starts to work. And I don't know why I was put in this position. You know, it's just, I was not even a dentist. I was not even a major, like in science or dentistry going into college. I thought I was going to be a finance guy, a Wall Street guy. That's what I went into school for. My mom was a dentist. So it was just something that I was like, oh, I'll just do it. You know, it's like, whatever.
1:08:17I'll just take science class. I'll be a dentist. And then once I took those courses, I just like nonstop and just, now I got to be on top of my game. Well, now you're just so passionate and driven about,
1:08:25Gary Brecka:Like you and I really do geek out. And like legit, he'll be sitting in these lectures somewhere around the world. And he starts taking pictures of the screens and the slides. He's like, oh my God, look at this with the vitamin D3 and this pathway of vitamin C. And I'm like, dude, why didn't you tell me I want to do, I would have gone there to that. Like I want to go to the peptide conferences. I want to go to the dental conferences. I'm so fascinated by it. And it's just amazing to have pioneers like you, Dr. Gandhi, you know, out there fighting for the truth, you know, staying ahead of the curve, not stopping your learning curve when you got out of school, reading your peer-reviewed journals, going to lectures, trying to further educate yourself.
1:09:00Gary Brecka:I think, you know, there's something in the Hippocratic Oath about intellectual curiosity. And I think it was Hippocrates that said, you know, I'm paraphrasing it and bastardizing it, but something along the lines that, you know, when a physician in the practice of medicine loses their intellectual curiosity, they really lose the capacity to give care. And you've definitely got that intellectual curiosity. Thank you, man. So we're going to head on over into my VIP room because I leaked it out on X and I leaked it to my VIPs that you were coming on, and they have a whole bunch of questions for you.
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00:00 Intro
04:14 What is an Organ?
07:15 Symptoms and Testings with Biological Dentistry
12:23 Inflammatory markers
15:00 Tooth removal and microscopic examination
17:02 Addressing Optimal Health with Biological Dentistry
19:26 Tooth removal procedure
21:08 Dental Medicine Taking the Spotlight
24:12 After a Root Canal
28:59 Outcomes after Biological Dentistry Procedures
30:54 Chronic and Autoimmune Disease Symptoms
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46:26 Recognizing the Starting Point of the Existence of Diseases
51:38 Importance of Proper Oral Care Routine
56:41 When to See a Biological Dentist?
1:00:05 What does it mean to you to be an “Ultimate Human?”
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