185. Dr. Christina Rahm: How to Detox Your Body from Lyme Disease & Heavy Metals Naturally

19:59Gary Brecka:I mean, I see it all the time. I mean, if you don't get rid of the exhaust, it will back up and blow the engine. I wish people, I want people to think about like the cell is dirty. It is. Everything in the body is dirty. No, they're like messy kids. They make an absolute mess when they're just going through their daily life. But think about Lyme disease. So you think about that component and then they're laying these spire sheets everywhere. And I loved how you said this. They're like hiding in the body. they're waiting to jump out and like trick someone right and that's where i say something that again is not popular i do think it's sexually transmitted i think that is transmitted between people i think that different viruses are not just transmitted through the mouth or the eyes but also can go through the skin and none of us are talking about it they're a virus i mean they're a virus they're they're they're micron size is a fraction of a human right so right um i mean it's It's a fraction of the size of a cell.

20:50Gary Brecka:So it makes very much sense to me that it could go through the skin, just given its size, especially if there's fluid in the skin, sebum and, you know, sweat. Yeah. So at that age, I just... Yeah, at that age, I want to go into how you walked your way out of it. If you know me, you know I'm a huge believer in the benefits of hydrogen water. H2Tab delivers cost-effective portable tablets that generate ultra-clean molecular hydrogen at 12 parts per million, one of the highest concentrations on the market. With over 1 ,300 published studies showing benefits of oxidative stress, energy, recovery, brain function, and so much more, taking charge of your health has never been easier or more cost-effective.

21:37Gary Brecka:Just drop a tablet in water, let it dissolve, and drink it back. It's less than a dollar a day, science-backed and part of my daily routine. I never travel without this, and it is my favorite biohack. Visit drinkh2tab.com. That's drinkh2tab.com and upgrade your hydration today. Now let's get back to the Ultimate Human Podcast. So after about two or three, my memory started coming back. So I started naturally using a lot of vitamins, a lot of minerals. I self-treated. I was not like this magical, phenomenal, intelligent person at the time. If you think about it, I lost my memory. But I did. It was interesting.

22:19I lost my memory. This was so interesting. My mind started thinking differently at that time where I was able to piece things together. And even though I lost some of the skill set and memory like in math and science, I regained it in other ways of how I was producing things. So like I went from undergrad where my grades weren't great to a master's degree with straight A's in science because my mind started. It's kind of I just think human beings are magical, like they can adapt, right? If they'll if they'll really focus on it, which is where I feel like we haven't done a great job as humanity at teaching people.

22:57OK, you lost this maybe because of an illness, but what are you going to do to support your immune system and your body and your cellular health? So it steps up and it does something even better. And I think we have that ability so much during that time.

23:10Gary Brecka:Oh, I believe deeply in the body's ability to heal its heart. And I think I was so naive at the time. I'm just being really candid and kind of still believed and the world could go back to normal that I just kept going. Like I noticed that when I would go out in the sun, it would help me. I started keeping a diary of what was helping me. Like I noticed when I would take a bath with lavender and Epsom salt and then sometimes I would add oregano. And if you ask me why - You'd be less achy. Yes. And oregano hurts your skin, right? It really stings. But I had read an article that showed that oregano could kill the spiral sheets.

23:51So I would put it in the water with Epsom salt and lavender. I know I don't have a product like this. Yeah, yeah. But I would get - Somebody's like, where do I buy that? I would get in and it would burn so bad. And when I got out, I would have this red rash. but I started, it worked. Like I started noticing that I would feel better the next day, that if I had a fever, it would go down. And that's where I was. I really, again, this is where I know people that are not, they didn't go to school in biology or they didn't go in science, but they pay attention to what's happening around them. But I did have some of that background.

24:27So it did help me that I was interested in psychology. I was interested in science that I grew up in the home I grew up in where we were exposed to all of it. And then I think, again, I was just so young and naive that I thought I was going to get better. But I do think that having cancer, like I lost a child, I had a brain tumor. If you ask me, do I think it's related to Lyme disease? Again, a very unpopular comment that I'm going to make is I do. I think there was a component. I don't think doctors will agree with me. Well, I think, you know, when you think that

24:59Gary Brecka:what is cancer? Cancer, all cancer, regardless of its form or origin, was at one time a healthy cell and something caused it to shift its metabolism. So I don't think any of us can put a finger on it and say, no, Lyme disease couldn't shift the metabolism or no. It's not just smoking or drug use or radiation. It's other less sinister things going on in the body that are just not allowing the immune system to do its job and eliminate waste and repair and detoxify and regenerate um so you you started doing these baths um you started going in the sun i started taking spirulina which i've done yeah and different i was huge fan yeah i was because you know can it can grab hold of different things in your body black cumin seed oil was something that i started really um studying and understanding turmeric curcumin and there's certain things like aloe vera was another one resveratol so like when people look at things i've worked on And they asked me, and truthfully, if you look scientifically at the ingredients we're talking about, it's just like vitamin C, right?

26:05If you look it up, it has a component that can help your body get rid of the trash and then support itself so that it's healthier. And I have people all the time ask me about, you know, the different things to take for weight loss, like ozempic and lots of different things. And I'm not against those things. But what I always tell people is if you're going to long-term impact your body, there's a need sometimes pharmaceutically to be on things. Right. But you need to support your body naturally.

26:32Gary Brecka:Oh, I totally agree. I mean, if you think about it, when we start really breaking things down, like mom, and I want to come back to the line, but we make GLP-1 in our gut. So the question is, well, what raises GLP-1? Well, satiation in response to nutrient density. So the very first thing you could do. One of the things I don't think we're talking about enough, and I want to hear what you have to say, is if you give your body what it has, but it has toxins in it, like heavy metals or viruses, bacteria, parasites, how in the world are the systems in the body supposed to communicate? I totally agree with you.

27:06Gary Brecka:I mean, I actually have a detox challenge coming up because I don't think a lot of people are talking about mold, mycotoxins, heavy metals, parasites, viruses. And, you know, they're not ever on a routine blood work. And what happens to so many people, and I feel very bad for them, I see them by the thousands, is, you know, you have this myriad of symptoms, like some weight gain, some water retention, some bloating, some fatigue. fatigue, you know, interrupted sleep, interrupted hormonal patterns, maybe, or maybe not even interrupted hormonal patterns, brain fog, you know, mood disruption. And since it doesn't show up on the lab and your CBC or your CMP or your lipid profile or what have you, it's not jumping off the lab as, as a disease.

27:53Gary Brecka:You know, a lot of these people are just told, Hey, it's all in your head or they'll, or they'll throw some blanket comment to you. Like, well, just get stress out of your life. And, you know, I mean, what kind of nonsense is that? I mean, we're built and we are resilient. We can handle stress. I understand that there's trauma and other things, but we're built to handle stress. We're a lot tougher than we think. And when something is systemically wrong, you know it. And even though you can't define it and put a finger on it, having a physician tell you that there's nothing wrong because it doesn't show up in this 72 biomarker panel, that's really deflating you know and it's it's really discouraging so you started doing these baths you you implemented turmeric curcumin resveratrol um which you know hats off to you for that time and being so young and but i even pharmaceutically like i remember going to the doctors and they took me off the ivs and me like even were these iv antibiotics these are iv so rocephin so they were using some things that you could use for chemotherapy so they were just throwing everything at me sure and then i remember instinctively knowing at the time and i if you ask me here's why i knew i kept getting fungal infections and i kept thinking there was nothing different going on in my life and so i kept thinking there's something that has to do the lyme disease and so for me and now they had me on you know when they have you on high dose antibiotics fungus grows Yeah.

29:21So if a doctor puts you on a high dose of antibiotics, one of the things we know that is in a hospital, when someone dies from like a viral bacteria infection, we know that there's fungus involved. A lot of times the doctor hasn't tested because you're basically giving them a high dose of antibiotic to get the bacterial load down or the viral load. You're giving them an antiviral, which sometimes the doctors will also prescribe the antibiotic. But at the same time, that means fungus grows. So you really need to be on both. and so before I even went to Pfizer like an antifungal

29:52Gary Brecka:like you can even even you can buy it at the store right over the counter but I remember telling the doctor I need this because I keep getting a fungal infection and I think if you talk to most women that have Lyme disease if they pay attention they'll notice that and most men too but they don't realize so just so the audience knows they probably do fungal infections are transmitted back and forth so that's why when a woman gets a fungal infection, actually the man should be treated too. Yes. Because they both can go back and forth. Right. With Lyme disease. With something as simple as kissing, it doesn't even have to be out of the body.

30:28Gary Brecka:As simple as kissing. Absolutely. And so with Lyme disease, I think this is something that a lot of doctors aren't talking about to their patients, but because I was paying so close attention to me and for whatever reason, you know, you have your life that brought you here. For me, I guess it was part of my journey to really pay attention to what was going on and to try to fix it because I didn't have any version of not living at the time. Like for me, and I actually did not have any part of me that thought I'm going to have Lyme disease for the rest of my life. Now I understand that. Back then I was like, I just have a lot to do to accomplish that I want to do in this lifetime.

31:05And so it, it helped me eat right. It helped me focus on really what I wanted to do. At the time, I didn't know a lot about zeolites. I knew a little bit about benzenites.

31:15Gary Brecka:So the binders were not a part of this protocol. I'm just trying to zero in on what you did to walk yourself out of the Lyme. So you did the resveratrols, turmeric, porcumin. You were doing these baths. Black cumin seed, the baths, lots of water, green tea. And you were also taking antifungals. Antifungals, antibiotics. I would usually rotate it every three months, tell the doctor I have this infection because I would get an infection because I think the spiral shoots for laying eggs and I think it was all over my body. but my Lyme disease journey did not really stop affecting me. I was diagnosed with rheumatoid arthritis.

31:50Gary Brecka:That's so common too. But look at me, like I'm fine. When I started working on zeolites, I met this guy named John Sally and I was a CEO of a healthcare company. So you're Lyme free at this point. I don't have symptoms, but I want to say this. No, no, no. I'm saying at this point where you started working on zeolites, were you, so you're out of your - No, I'm still having problems. but because I had worked at all these pharmaceutical companies and because I had so many - Even at 19? No, no, no. Oh, okay. I did not get rid of Lyme's disease where I didn't have a lot of issues until - Ah, you're still kind of chronically battling it.

32:24Until about 15 years ago.

32:25Gary Brecka:Wow. Yeah. I would have issues, but if you ask me, I would do the treatment that I'm telling you and I, self-treatment, right? Not, and I would start feeling better every time. Wow. Now, because I understand about zeolites. Yes. And I understand about silicas and I understand about getting rid of things in the system. For me, that helps me. Yeah. And then understanding turmeric curcumin even more. Oh, yeah. And direct use of that. For me, and I know everyone's Lyme disease journey is different. Yes. That helps me tremendously. And I use, I do use saunas. I do do cold plunge. I do do oxygen. I do do hydrogen.

33:04So there's lots of different things I do now. But I would tell you that I believe like even getting cancer when I was, you know, 25, 26 years old was a result of not treating it, but not really treating it as well as I should have. Like this journey for me, what you said is so true. It's a personal journey. Right. So me trying all the amazing things you have. Like for me, those are not like guesses. Those are things that help people with Lyme disease. Yes. Not everyone can do everything, but you can give them certain tools they can start with to get to the point where they're better. And I do think certain zeolite treatments are really good for people.

33:45Gary Brecka:And zeolite is a binder. What is zeolite? So zeolite's orthosilic, right? And so your world, like your body's composed of water and orthosilic, like you have this in your body, right? It's your composition. And so is our world. And so a lot of people don't understand that like our composition of the earth and the DNA of the earth in our body is composed really of some silica, right? But silica can be bad because silica, not bad, but like you're using silicon phones, right? Right. And we know that the EMFs and the phones just by using our phones are not particularly good for us. Yeah, not at all.

34:22But I worked on a particular formula. I've worked on numerous formulas, actually, to basically take the silica out of the zeolite. Because a zeolite is a cage-like structure that has positive and negative ions, and it can contribute to different things. Where does zeolite come from? It comes from a natural crystal in the earth. And there's over 300 types of zeolites.

34:43Gary Brecka:Wow. And why is it so effective as a binder? And for somebody listening to this, when would they think, maybe I should introduce a binder to my routine? Like when would a binder come into play? So I personally feel like, and this is me personally, if I looked at just my scientific background and my education, I would say if I wouldn't have written a lot of patents, if I wouldn't have studied zeolites more in depth, I would not have this opinion. But the more that I've researched zeolites, understanding how they would bind to nuclear waste and how they would help with EMFs and how they could help with lots of different things.

35:20Help with EMFs? Yeah.

35:21Gary Brecka:Wow. So from my perspective, and again, I know that a lot of people have differences of opinion, but by binding to what's in your body that's a toxin, which shouldn't be in there through a positive and negative charge, my goal with my products was to make something that would rip things apart and take them out of the body. So as an inventor, I wrote patents that reverse aging and regenerate the hair, nail, and skin in the body. But then you have to actually do it. So, you know, you write a patent. Yeah. But then you have to do, so like my, the rest of my life will be spent trying to work on the different things that I've patented to bring them to humanity through whatever company or whatever people that are really going to try to change humanity.

36:05Gary Brecka:That's amazing. But, but when we, when we just going back to Zeolite for a moment, so what, if somebody's listening to this podcast, what should trigger them to think, maybe I need to introduce a binder to my, my routine like what kind of symptoms would be going on that they would say maybe i should incorporate activated charcoal or zeolite or which are all binders yeah 100 and i think to to bring this to a point i'm going to answer the question i do want you to i do want the audience to know there's different binders so thank you for bringing that up because i think the body you have to outsmart the viruses and bacteria and parasites and environmental heavy metals everything in your body because you have to be smarter and when i worked on hiv that was one of the things i kept seeing that maybe one thing would work with one person but another person needed like different blockades and different things to lower it a zeolite is something if you are having problems in my opinion with not being able to get rid of an illness or an autoimmune disorder and you really have been exposed to anything toxic whether it's heavy metals like mercury arsenic lead and we all know our environment right now yeah no doubt whether it's coming through your skin or through your body and and just so the audience knows if you have a rash on your skin or anything that's happening that's a sign of what's going on the inside of the body right that's a reaction so you have to get the trash out and the heavy metals out and you also want to create an equilibrium in the body and we know that orthosilic acid and different types of zeolites can create this like equilibrium.

37:39We know that we used it, Darren, Chernobyl, Hiroshima.

37:43Gary Brecka:So they're safe, but like, so, so again, if they're listening to this, you're saying if you, if you have a known toxic exposure, like if you know that you've been exposed to. Vaccines that have heavy metal carriers, like there's all kinds of things. So essentially everybody should use it then. Cause I mean. In my opinion, but you need to use one that's safe and you need to drink lots of water and and it doesn't mean by taking one and it needs to be the right one and i i'm really cautious to ever say that i have the right one i have one of the ones that really works that i've worked on but i've worked on others and i plan on in the future working on even more because i feel like the zeolites are a crystal that really hold the ability to work with your body exogenically and they're bioavailable so for example zeolites have been something we've researched for years as a carrier that's a natural carrier carrier for what like a vaccine or a human monoclonal antibody they're they're they bind those and carry them out of the body it can it can help actually even with a pharmaceutical biotech agent to help be bioavailable to the system because it's a natural part of your body so if you make a zeolite the right way you're basically taking out part of that zeolite which is what i did to make a silica so that it's working to be bioavailable and safe and efficacious for the body.

39:03Gary Brecka:But is it also working as a binder to carry toxins out? It's also acting as a binder. But here's the issue. If you have a zeolite that hasn't been cleaned, then it holds on to heavy metals. So you have to be really careful that you're on the right zeolite. But you want it to bind the heavy metals, right? You want it to, but you also want it. My goal always with the patents was to rip it apart. So to bind and then rip it apart. And the reason I wanted to do that with heavy metals is because I don't want them to be heavy metals anymore. Oh, you mean the zeolite will hold heavy metals when you take the binder, you're putting heavy metals in?

39:33Yes. No, no, no. So when you put the zeolite in and you're ripping apart the heavy metals in the binder, then it can release through the sweat or the urine in the body, right? Your problem is if it's not ripping it apart, you can hurt the different organs. Like chelation therapy, for example, is not negative. But if you do too much chelation therapy, it can hurt your organs, right?

39:56Gary Brecka:Well, that's because it's stripping all the metals out. It's stripping all the, that's my point. Yeah. So you have to. It doesn't just, it's just target mercury or arsenic or lead. No, it's stripping all of them. It'll take B12, all kinds of zinc, magnesium, all the light metals. Right. So my goal, any product I've worked on, I'm infusing that into the product because I don't want the body to be stripped from everything. Because even though I do understand chelation therapy helps, it's stripping all the good things out too. So you're saying that certain zeolite binders, like the one you formulated, for example, the certain zeolite binders will actually bind the heavy metals, but they're not binding the things that have similar charges that we want to keep in the body.

40:34Gary Brecka:So it's like a selective binder. It's a selective binder. And that's why I put 87 to 115 trace minerals and then vitamins in it as well. I'm a huge fan of that too. Because I think that when we look at detoxification pathways, if you look at methylation pathways, you look at detox in general, detoxification, transulfuration glutathione pathways these pathways are very hungry for the vitamins for minerals and you know one of the ways that you can up your capacity to detoxify is to make sure that you have plenty of the natural minerals 100 % what have you but I'm saying so so someone's listening to this and they so if they have a known toxic exposure um or they have unexplained symptoms a binder might be something that they want 100 like the arsenic for example from the fire right yeah even for people detoxify from arsenic that's a tough one well zeolites are known to bind to arsenic like you know yeah and so you so like it would have to it's a specific zeolite and again you're sourcing those one of the reasons i've traveled to so many places in the world are to study different forms of zeolites one of the things i haven't done which i've gone back and forth i don't i don't release my source of zeolites oh okay and um because they're they're different everywhere you go and you have to study it like you go to egypt for example we talked about that earlier and find a specific part there's lots of zeolites that are different in greece and do these zeolites have different binding affinities okay so that's the thing so once you so if you knew that you had arsenic poisoning for example yeah you could select the zeolite with a binding affinity for arsenic you could selectively do that or you could talk to a scientist that's worked on a specific zeolite product and ask them if they tested for arsenic yeah but those people are not hanging on trees i don't even know how i mean i know a lot of people and i don't know who to call for a zeolite binder that um there's lots there's tests that you can look at for heavy metals like when we have people that are on some of the products that i've worked on at first when they take the the test when they're using the product that I've made, it'll show more heavy metals, right?

42:45Because you're excreting them from the system.

42:47Gary Brecka:Yeah, pulling them from the tissues, right? Right, and so you have to explain that. Because, again, you're explaining to people, but then after three to six months, you'll notice that it's less, right? Because you're getting out of the body. So the more exposure, I just dealt with someone this morning, an amazing person that started just a drop of one of the products, not a dropper, a drop with water, and then pus was coming out of her eczema. and she went to the doctor and the doctor said what have you done differently and she said nothing and the doctor says it just looks like there's a bacterial infection or there's something else that's coming out of your skin whether that had to do with my the product that i worked on or not i don't know but i will say we've seen it a lot some people don't have a reaction because i think some people have not been exposed to as much heavy metal for me even products that i've worked on there's some products i've worked on and again i'll be criticized for this too but that i don't use there's other products that are mandatory for me that are life-changing for me personally what how many different zeolite products do you have i only have there's two that i use one's clean slate one's clean spirits one has patents to metabolize alcohol in the liver okay and to clean the liver okay actually it's trademarked for that and the patents around it so because i want to really focus on the detox.

44:11Gary Brecka:So somebody that's looking to bind things like heavy metals, like, for example, I did a heavy metal. I thought that I had metal poisoning and I did a heavy metal test and my levels were within normal range or very, very low. Then I did something called a provoked chelation test where they used chelation and they provoked the metals. They pulled them out of the tissue. And then I did an eight hour urine afterwards. So I did chelation and then for eight more hours, you know, urinating in this container, send it to the lab, and then my metals were through the roof. Yeah. And then I have used binders, activated charcoal and zeolite and so on and detox, glutathione, a bunch of other stuff.

44:53Gary Brecka:But what I'm trying to zero in on is if somebody knows they've had a known exposure to heavy metals or they have something like a arsenic, they would select one of these two zeolite binders. Yeah, CleanSlight is the one that we had active data on when we first started. Four metals. Yes, and we've done case studies all over. So I launched a patient registry in the 80 countries we were in a couple years ago and case studies with different doctors. We were dealing with like the Hungarian doctor for the Olympics and just different people in other countries where we would research it. The issue is what you just said is the test to determine and making sure you have the right test.

45:37Yeah, they're evasive. Yeah, they really are. It's like looking for spiral sheets. It's almost crazy to me how just getting a heavy metal test is so hard. Like the products I work on, I'm testing, then retesting, then testing again. But the human body is really hard to get accurate tests, and it's more than one that you have to really do to know what's going on in your body.

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46:51Gary Brecka:Where do they start with testing? like what kind of testing do you think is is best for them to you know get an idea of what might be causing their condition so we have a genetic test that we use but if you ask me if it's going to show them all the everything that's going on in their body it's going to show them and i think you guys have a test that looks at wellness and prevention yeah yeah but it's not it doesn't test But it's not testing for that. There's a SEND is a lab that does some of that testing. If you ask me if I've ever been 100 % happy with any kind of testing, not 100%. Because I feel like it's fine if you have a functional integrative med doctor you're working with that understands heavy metals.

47:36And they can read the test and that you have someone that's going to report what they're taking. I do think certain zeolite formulas that bind can be extremely impactful to someone's life as long as they're used correctly. I think you cannot flush a zeolite out of the system no matter who you're buying it from unless you're drinking lots of water. And you're really, I mean, and I've seen people use zeolites with chelation, right, and have good results. But again, it's so hard for me, Gary, because you want people to each understand that their individual treatment, like are they using a med bed are they doing cold plunge like if they would use other types of

48:14Gary Brecka:therapies along with the right zeolite to detox the body i think you have amazing results within two weeks to three months yeah because i think um you know first it's like i use a uh that's called a vibrant wellness test um i have no affiliation with them but uh you know because it looks at different mycotoxins, metals. And I think it's for people that are really having symptoms that they've been on this journey that they just can't seem to figure out. Yeah. And they're generally those malaise-like symptoms that, you know, you're walking around at like a C-minus. You know, it's not enough to drive you to the ER.

48:57Gary Brecka:It's not enough to make you go to the urgent care. but your mood's flat, you're bloated, um, you got brain fog, uh, you know, you know, you have no motivation to exercise. You don't really feel your surroundings. You're not. And so what I was trying to get at, you know, in your opinion was, is there any testing that you would say, okay, if you feel like that, here's the test that you should do. Yeah. Um, there's, I can send you the blood test and you guys can post it. I have a concierge, I have two concierge doctors I work with even for me. And it lists the biomarkers to test on there. And it lists the biomarkers.

49:32And then I can send you the 130 essays that we've used before. Here's the issue. It's like a fungal test. So I learned this when I used to work in pharmaceutical. Your fungus tests have like a 50 % positive, 50 % negative. So you don't even know. And we know now that a heavy metal test can be like that. And so your issue is, and Lyme's disease. Like, are you testing for spiral sheets? What are you seeing in the viral load? The truth is they can hide. right so you don't see the full picture and so from my perspective what you're trying to do with like a zeolite or detoxification program is to bring the body into equilibrium so that your viral load's down your heavy metal loads down your bacterial load fungus everything's down zeolites actually work on viral loads too so there's a lot of research that you can find in NIH PubMed research data all over the world where it can help with viral parasitic bacterial so a lot of different basically helping get the environmental toxins out it's just that it's

50:32Gary Brecka:never been made into a pharmaceutical that's been like an agent and then nutraceutical it's one of the most like fought over products in the world and I believe like it's the only product I've ever worked on that people have like criticized me about and I think it's because it actually does something and actually helps people and it makes a change and when i look at autism and i look at alzheimer's and i look at parkinson's and als and all these neural i'm just going to tell you like from my perspective we were looking at apo e gene like with air sept with pfizer but now we understand and i worked on a consulting project with elon where we were looking at alzheimer's and now when you're seeing the autopsies that people are having, they're seeing the fungus and they're seeing the parasites.

51:21And I personally think people with Lyme disease are at a higher risk for that as well. So yeah, my goal with working on zeolites was to bring the body down to basically equilibrium so that you can support the immune system and the cellular health. So, cause you know that everything's not going to be perfect, right? But you're trying to bring it back to an equilibrium state so that you can basically support the system inside that will fight everything else off.

51:47Gary Brecka:Yeah. But the, what I was trying to get at was, you know, what kind of, um, when somebody feels like that, where do they go? Like what, so you have the biomarkers that you said that you can look at. And then those biomarkers, um, are, they're indicative of Lyme virus. They're indicative of what's going on in your body. But the problem with what's available right now is you can take those markers and look at them and look at what your footprint is, right? And then you can test against that and do like every three months different tests that look at different biomarkers as well and then correlate them.

52:23But your issue is most doctors aren't correlating all these tests together for a patient. Does that make sense? So you can see your baseline and your genetics and then you can see your markers and what's happening. but having a doctor correlate the two is where there's a gap where I really believe a company has to step up and and I'm trying to do as much as I can but we need to create this this gap you need to create a system that will help people with this gap right right because there is a gap if you ask me personally if there's a lab that does everything or a doctor yeah yeah not everything

53:02Gary Brecka:but I'm just saying like some hope for people to say here's the road that you kind of want to go down, I mean, you already said that there's these certain biomarkers. What kind of biomarkers are you finding that are indicative of some of these pathogens? Like, what are you going to see in somebody with metals or with, you know, Lyme other than the IgG, IgM, you know, titer for Lyme? So typically I always, and I think this is where I land upon a lot of my pharmaceutical biotech background, because when we would develop human monoclonal antibodies or different pharmaceuticals, we're looking at P450 systems within the body and the IL-2 and IL-4 pathways.

53:41Okay, these interleukin pathways.

53:42Gary Brecka:Yes. So we're looking at how are those working together and how are they basically supporting the body? And you even look at those pathways when you're, like if you give a patient a chemotherapy or radiation or human monoclonal antibody or a vaccine, right, you're looking at how is that interacting and is it able to process within the system. And we know now that if those systems are not working within the body. What systems? You say it's not able to process in the system. Oh, the P450 and your IL-2, IL-4 pathways. Those are so important to the human body. If those aren't functioning correctly, the rest of the body isn't.

54:20Like you can look at everything, your neurotransmitters, right? If that P450 system and IL-2, IL-4 pathways not working, then your whole system isn't working. and your microbiome within the stomach is not producing hydrogen, right? You're not communicating with the heart. You're not communicating with the brain. And even though it sounds really simple, those are your main pathways that you're really looking at genetically to work at processing anything you put in the body. Whether it's something you're eating, whether it's a nutraceutical, or whether it's a pharmaceutical, your body has to be able to make things bioavailable to work.

54:58And I think one of the main things that's happened is our bodies are so polluted by these heavy metals, by these pathogens, whatever you want to call them, bacteria, viruses, pick a topic, right? Pollution. That our system doesn't work. So our whole P450 system is not able to process anything. things. So when you talk to me about a C, someone's living a C life, their body's simply not able cellularly to communicate between the cells or the systems and the neurotransmitters are shutting down. The endocrine system shuts down and the whole body just isn't working effectively.

55:36Gary Brecka:For those people that don't know what a P450 system is, can you explain that a little bit? So the P450 system is really what is inside the body that's processing everything that's going in and out. And if you have, like, for example, let's say you take Zithromax, right? Or you're taking an IV injection, whatever you're taking, that has to process through the system for the system to be able to communicate with the rest of the immune system and the cellular health. So P450, is this a marker that you can look at? It's a marker within the system, but it really is controlling everything within the system.

56:12So isn't able to process something, then the whole system's not working effectively.

56:17Gary Brecka:Because it's creating toxic waste or whatever. So when you work on pharmaceuticals and biotech technology, you're looking at that system to see if what you're putting in the body is bioavailable to the body and if the body, if it will work in a safe and efficacious way. The way I look at the body, because I'm not just in the pharmaceutical biotech, my thing is if we've studied that our whole life and that's what we're determining whether something's approved and whether it's working, then what about what we're eating? What about the negative effects of that system? Everything's going through that, right?

56:53So if that system isn't working effectively, how are we processing anything? And I believe one of our problems is we're toxic. And you could tell me, well, why are we toxic, Christina? A million reasons. Right, right. So what are we going to do to clean that whole system up. The reason in my language, because you know how we both come from different worlds, but in my world, that's what we had to review when we were getting anything approved. So before you get stuff approved through the FDA, you're looking at those systems from a scientific -

57:24Gary Brecka:And how do you evaluate the P450 system? Are there P450 markers that say that, you know, what would be like a marker for the P450 system? There's different lab tests that you can, like when you're, like scientifically, when you're researching a molecule or a drug and how it's working in the body, you're looking at those systems and the markers throughout the whole body. So scientifically, you're able to really dissect that and see what's happening within the body. But are there P450 markers? Like if you say markers of inflammation, I would say, okay, well, homocysteine, C-reactive protein, creatine phosphokinase.

57:59So in my mind, scientifically, it's all part of that system. Do you see what I mean? So even those are individual parts, that whole system working together in order for your body to process anything, all the markers, all the channels, whether you're looking at the endocrine system or you're looking at your neurotransmitters and the system that they have, everything is working together to really communicate if it's going to work within the body. So you could put, let me use an example, a lizard delivery system in your body. you probably know what i'm talking about no seriously yes no i know exactly what you're talking and if the p4 system p450 system and the il2 il il4 systems which are part of really all

58:46Gary Brecka:the systems without the body like interleukin i understand because they're interleukin 6 and looking so you can you know i know those markers the p450 i'm i'm saying it's your whole overall system so it's kind of like saying the the engine of the car okay right like this is this is this This is basically your control center. You know what drives me crazy? Having all these health questions burning inside you, but nowhere to get real science-backed answers. That's exactly why I created my VIP community. Every month, I jump on live video calls where you can ask me anything. I'm talking about your specific health challenges, your biohacking questions, your optimization goals, whatever is keeping you up at night.

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1:00:38So your IL-2, IL-4 pathways are the two most important pathways that are communicating. So those are markers of the system. They're communicating with the system. So I look at it more as here's the system. Scientifically, if you research that, it's communicating with all of your systems and there's biomarkers interacting with everything right and so if that system is not able to make something bioavailable then something else is going to get off in the system so for example if you have a delivery mechanism that's a lizard or mouse dna maybe that system because you know murine is the closest to our dna right so we use that as delivery systems right um as part of some of the human monoclonal antibodies which is something that i thought everyone knew but now i realize not everyone knows no definitely not that's not common knowledge trust me so so you're using different delivery systems to make something work because you're you you're trying to when you put something inside the body to help with lyme disease or help with cancer you don't want to kill the body right you're trying to make sure that the body is communicating still but you're getting right you're targeting like the negative cell so So let's say you're treating proximal nocturnal hemoglobin area.

1:01:51You're targeting a cell that is causing that to change it so that it no longer looks like a cell that has PNH. And you're using different components of that system to target. So anytime you create like a human monoclonal antibody, your goal is to get rid of a bad cell. Right. Or an autoimmune disorder or a disease. But the problem is if that molecule, that drug that you're using also produces toxins or has side effects, then long-term use that impacts the overall system of P450 and all of your different markers within the body.

1:02:29Gary Brecka:So the way I look at it scientifically is it's not isolated, even though you may have a traditional doctor say that it is isolated. In my opinion, it's not. It's all connected and it's all working together. And your immune system and your cellular health, unless you really detox and clean that, it's just clogged up. And so I believe, even though this isn't a theory that people are talking about, that's one of the reasons why we're aging so quickly. Oh, I firmly believe that toxins in the body are going unchecked, undiagnosed, and unaddressed. So in other words, I believe that, I mean, first of all, we all have some level of heavy metals in our body.

1:03:10Gary Brecka:We all have parasites in our body. There's healthy parasites like helminths and bad parasites. We have healthy bacteria. We have bad bacteria. We have, you know, the majority of us at some point in our lifetime have had circulating tumor cells, but our immune system has somehow captured those. And I thoroughly agree with you that, and I thoroughly subscribe to this idea of immunofatigue, that, you know, the immune system eventually just gets worn out. And one of the ways to give the immune system a fighting chance is to remove as much of things like mold and mycotoxins and heavy metals and parasites and viruses, so it's not distracted.

1:03:55Gary Brecka:And if you can do that and then rely on the innate immune system to start policing your own cellular biology, that's a huge win because nothing is better at detecting foreign pathogens and detecting your own senescent cells, cells that are living but not performing in their job anymore than your own immune system. Yeah. In fact, I don't know if we have anything that specifically targets a senescent cell other than a natural killer cell, which is your immune cell. I don't think so. So if somebody wants to begin a detoxification journey and they're like, I agree with what you guys are referring to, and I want to start my own detoxification journey.

1:04:40Gary Brecka:Where does that journey start? What are some things they can do? I think they need guides like you. I really do. No, no, no. Sign up for my VIP. Yes. She said it. There you go. Yeah, everyone's going to. No, I think you have to have, okay, this is what I think you have to have warriors in science that actually are waving the flag to really try to help people. I think like a lot of the things I talked about today are not popular. I think that scientifically our medical and science books haven't changed a lot since we were a lot younger. To update, from my perspective, just studying things all over the world, there's no hidden agenda.

1:05:19I just want to help people. So detoxing, you've got to have someone that can be there with you to go through it because some people detox differently. Some people, when they go through detoxification, they have a lot of energy. some people they don't have as much energy some people break out in a rash because stuff's coming out of their skin right and their body or they're having they're using the bathroom more i mean that's just stuff you have to understand because everybody's body's different right and again i talked about the systems of the body that i feel like are essential but the truth is everyone's genes are going to react differently and because we've all been exposed they're going to have a

1:05:55Gary Brecka:different reaction but if you can follow a regimen where you're really trying to find what the best detoxification protocol is for you. That's my advice to people. And I think you have to keep a journal, you know, a journal and it has to be a mission. It's kind of like redoing your house. Like if you're not dedicated to that and you don't understand that your life journey is going to include taking the trash out of your body through detoxification, then here's my opinion. You won't live. Well, I don't want to say I can't. You want to live the healthiest, happiest life ever. So to me, it's like saying, am I going to spend the rest of my life and never brush my teeth or take a bath?

1:06:35No, I'm going to take a bath. I'm going to brush my teeth. But even what's more important is cleaning out the inside of your body. And it's something no one taught us when we grew up. Like you weren't taught by your mother and I wasn't either that you needed to detox. I mean, I love my mother so much.

1:06:49Gary Brecka:So what are just some general things that people could do to begin a detoxification journey? So I do think that if you're starting a detoxification journey i think it's really important um i do think you need to pick a zeolite treatment that really works to clean out the body and then i think you need how often do you take a zeolite treatment so um the ones i've worked on you take in the morning and at night uh and i always take them apart from food yeah okay you can take them if it bothers your stomach with food i'd prefer without food but don't they also bind that a lot of the nutrients Yeah.

1:07:21Gary Brecka:Okay. So ideally you would take them on an empty stomach. On an empty stomach, 30 minutes to an hour before your meal. Before food. If you're on chemotherapy or radiation, I always say 48, 72 hours before or after consult with your doctor. 42 to 72 hours after a treatment. Before or after a treatment. Before or after a treatment. Yeah, because you don't want to bind anything with the radiation. You've got to wait until. Yeah, you don't want to bind the chemotherapy. And then you want to take it out. Of course. And I always say consult with your doctor. But with the products I've worked on, one to two drops in the morning, one to two drops at night, not droppers.

1:07:53If it was up to me, you'd also do it at lunch. But a lot of people do not have that dedication to detox. They do it three times. Yeah. And then you go up to 10 drops in the morning, 10 drops at night. So these are zeolite liquids. Yes. Okay. Liquids. Because you're – so zeolite, so like pepto-bismol is a zeolite. Okay. Kitty litter. Yeah. Zeolite. There's different types of – Yeah, baking soda. There's different types of zeolites. So you would take that with lots of water. And I tell people, I also prefer they take it with green tea, clean green tea to try to strip it out of the system. And then I really think having a very strong greens shake that has spirulina and different types of wheatgrass and different types of algaes that can help take it out, like a phytoplankton, can really help as well because you're trying to target, you know, your microbiome.

1:08:41Gary Brecka:So spirulina, green algae. Prebiotics, probiotics are very important during a detoxification process because you've got to support the healthy bacteria. And I even think pre and probiotics supports the healthy, basically microbiome of the whole body. So that, I think, is extremely important. I do really think the Epsom salt baths are extremely important. But I think if you're doing the cold plunge and you're doing, if you have a med bed, if you have the oxygen, if they have the hydrogen, the hydrogen pills you use those are all of those are really great things for detoxification huge huge so to add those to that regimen are very important and i i always tell people look at it again like you're redoing your house or you're going shopping for clothes because what you're doing is you're redoing your body on the inside so that all your systems are working and that's where i do think scientifically i look at life differently i think there's this whole system in there and you just have to support it and you want to make it beautiful.

1:09:40And I think the more I've traveled in my life, the more I realize I don't really have a home. I'm always in another country. I'm like, I'm not in this home.

1:09:49Gary Brecka:Would you tell me you were home like 30, 30 days last year or something? Um, uh, and so you were traveling 11 months out of the year. But you want your body to be, this is where you live, right? So if you would spend the time of the, the time, attention and money you spend on your own home and on the way you look on the outside, then you, to me, become a much more beautiful person in every way and you feel a lot better, which is what's so important. Like you could have as much money as you want in the world. If you don't feel good, it changes everything. And I know you talk a lot about how emotional and spiritual toxicity can be as damaging as physical toxins.

1:10:26Can you just

1:10:27Gary Brecka:elaborate on that? So I think in this life, unfortunately, we feel such guilt. I think that we are bombarded and some of it social media some of it's just what's happened with feeling guilty about things and we live with it whether we're overweight we feel guilty emotionally mentally whether we did something in our past which all of us have we feel guilty and we shouldn't and i feel like this guilt i don't feel like i think as a you know i used to be a psychologist it impacts our entire stress inflammation level of the body and i think if we can just spiritually love ourselves and not hate other people, but try our best to surround ourselves with the right people, then we can have a much healthier life.

1:11:10Because one of the things I learned in school when I went back to school is that ourselves talk. And so if you're around negative people, are you surrounding yourself? Frequency matters.

1:11:22Gary Brecka:I mean, I've become an enormous believer in the universal law of attraction, which I thought was complete mumbo jumbo 20 years ago. um and i forget what book it was that very first started talking about that um you know the the might have been one of the john maxwell books um that that talks about the universal law of attraction and i thought it was just a bunch of nonsense but now that i understand frequency and cellular energy and laws of constructive interference and destructive interference there are laws in physics that say that you know energy matters emotion matters frequency matters and it matters tremendously in our cellular biology.

1:12:00Gary Brecka:So what are some things that we can do to either spiritually align or spiritually cleanse ourselves? And I'm not talking about from a religious perspective. I'm just saying our human spirit. How do we get some of the emotional and spiritual toxins out of our life? First of all, what are they? So there's a lot of spiritual emotional toxins and they come from years of relationships or being around the wrong people that aren't beneficial to your soul. And I say this all the time, you're here for a reason, right? You have a path and your path can't be a path where someone's making you feel guilty or horrible.

1:12:35It's got to be a path where you're really getting to be the best version of you. And so by surrounding, by getting the people out that aren't making you happy and not taking them out of your life, not even like, I know this sounds bad, but even blocking people can be better for your your soul your physical health your spiritual health than anything one of the things we always saw when we would submit something with the fda is there would be people that would all of a sudden get better from a rare disease yeah and we would find out that they had people around them there were two things they either changed their nutrition and they were taking supplements or eating different foods and changed their diet or there was a spiritual component with emotional and mental support from people that had around.

1:13:18And usually it was both of those things. And all of a sudden you would go in, you would be treating the patient and they were getting ready to start a new treatment that the only people that were going to die could start the treatment and they were better. And you're like, what did you do different? What they did was they got people out of their life that shouldn't have been. And they put people around them that supported them and loved them for who they were and accepted who they were. And that's why I encourage everyone to do in their life because it's one of the most important things. There really isn't a reason.

1:13:47If you're in a situation where it's negative or you're not happy, then get out of it somehow. Yeah. Because you really have this one shot and you need to be around people that really believe in you and that are going to accept you. And even I say this, sometimes people don't agree with me and we talked about it before here. So it's okay if we don't agree. Yeah. If we learn from it.

1:14:07Gary Brecka:Right. And those are the people that actually can help you even be more emotionally and mentally healthy. They don't have to agree with you. Yeah. They have to love and care about you and give you honest feedback. Yeah. That makes a lot of sense. I mean, like, you know, I talk about this all the time, how Blue Zone Research had these two non-negotiables, and one of them was sense of purpose and sense of community. And so if that sense of community is absent because the people in your life are very negative or they don't believe in you or they're just on a completely different path. And sometimes it's family members, you know, distancing yourself so that you can have, not have that energy drain, right?

1:14:48Gary Brecka:Because the laws of physics tell us through constructive and destructive interference that people can actually take energy away from you. Yeah. Or they can give you energy through frequency. So that's what you mean by spiritual and emotional toxins. toxins and so um um and what are some of the uh is are there any other spiritual or emotional toxins other than negative people that you know i so i'm i'm not trying to be like i was raised in a in a christian home but for me i do a lot of because i was a psychologist i do a lot of like ceremonies for myself where i will burn i will put something on a piece of paper i know this sounds crazy but i will go to the fireplace and burn it no it's great and get rid of that negative thought or that negative process and then another thing i i do is i will write something positive on um and then i will do the same thing and just say i very i meditate i pray it's really important to me that i put that purpose out there i do believe in the power of attraction i do believe in listen i believe in string theory and light theories and time travel because they're real Like we used to not know, now we know.

1:16:00And if you believe in any of those theories, you do understand. What is string theory? So string theory is basically getting from one point to the next. It's connected to time travel. So being able to go along one line, sorry, of energy to the next in that split second. It's like the quantum, right?

1:16:16Gary Brecka:Things can actually be in two places at the same time. Yeah, it's kind of like black hole theory. So we used to think the black hole wasn't real. And now we understand that's one of the ways we could potentially save our world someday. if something happens to the earth is going through the black hole, but you have to go through the single energetic line, which I think is so interesting to me. Wow. Yeah. So how do people, how do people become more aware of that? Like string theory is, is, is new for me. So string theory is I have a place that I, a destiny that I want to go in my life or maybe an image of myself.

1:16:51Gary Brecka:And I'm paraphrasing here. And you're saying there, there's a theory that accelerates my journey to that. It's an energetic theory that gets you, that you can use somewhere faster, right? Or quicker due to the fact that you're traveling really at a light speed and through one little energetic level, right? Okay. But if you can connect the energy levels and they're really easy to go through, it's much better than if you have like these different energetic levels that you're going through when you're looking at a time travel or you're looking at going from point A to point B. and even one of the theories is connected to like how we think and what we know which i think is so great because they think there's that there are some human beings and this is a little bit of a different theory but they think there's some people that can communicate they don't think they know without talking and they think it's because their cells have energetically figured out how to communicate to someone else and you know we used to think well this was the fbi or the cia or different kinds of organizations now we understand there's just some people that they've trained And just like you're training so much, you're doing all this stuff that they are so evolved that they actually know how to do that and to basically achieve what they want in life because they're so concentrated on it.

1:18:02Gary Brecka:So like that power to influence your world around you because you're so focused and so intentional. um so um just you know uh we we like you said we live in a toxic world and and um i think this the whole maha movement is hopefully going to start cleaning some of this up um and i think you know a particular concern to me is this next generation you know like my kids are getting ready to have kids i know and i don't worry about my kids but i do worry about my kids kids yeah um And the reason why is because there are just so many ways for them. There's just so many things that they have to deal with, right?

1:18:48Gary Brecka:I mean, just the environmental toxins, social media, the kind of psychological impact that social media might have on young girls and young boys, the need for like immediacy, like, uh, delayed gratification is not something that I think the younger generation really gets. Um, I think you can get it from, from faith, but what are some of the ways that we can, um, if you're raising children, you know, if you're a parent and you're listening to this, what are some of the ways that we can protect our kids from some of these toxins? So I think with children, it's really important that they, first of all, I think it's, it's more important than ever to have them on different treatment regimens for prevention and wellness.

1:19:33And I mean that because we have such a high propensity.

1:19:35Gary Brecka:So like what kind of an example of when you say treatment regimens for wellness, what would be an example of a treatment regimen for a child? So for example, we know now that the neurotransmitters of the brain, you know, we have such a high propensity of ADHD and autism. So I've worked on a lot of adaptogenics nootropics because of that because if your neurotransmitters aren't working if the dopamine and serotonin is not working then you're experiencing anxiety and depression and we even know there's a component with autism and adhd for that so i have worked on many throughout my career um in the pharmaceutical industry of course we had things for adhd right and autism with i'm just going to say this without a lot of success yeah no i mean i mean it's like every it doesn't surprise me at all no but what are some um like specific examples for for kids when you say uh so there's treatment regimens so there's certain things like again detoxification from and from my perspective is very important for children so giving them a zeolite binder yeah okay yes there are dosages that are safe for kids yes it would be lower so you would basically based on weight you would go i wouldn't go higher like the child's under 100 pounds i wouldn't go higher than five drops in the morning and five at night and i would start with uh in the morning one because with autism so people with autism we've seen some great results and the issue is when you start waking up with the zeolite drops but earlier didn't you say that the it should be two drops twice a day that's for a full children five drops for children no no no you start with one drop okay in the morning and you could go up to five but you want to see how they're reacting so with autism you're extremely sensitive and adhd right so you again i always say consult with a doctor but i'm telling you one drop in the morning with lots of water one drop at night and then you could go up to five but some children that doctors have treated all over the world because in in a lot of countries we're in they there are more integrated functional meds so right so it's a little different choice they out there you know because they don't have access to a lot of pharmaceuticals 100 so So they're using natural.

1:21:41And we have a lot of results for people that are just using one drop. I mean, that bottle would last six months. You know, it's one drop in the morning, one drop at night. But we have a group out of Switzerland that they had a bunch of people that have had autism and ADHD, their children. And so they started using some of the products and they've had really great results.

1:22:01Gary Brecka:Which ones do they have great results in for autism? Clean Slate. Clean Slate is the binder. Yes, and zero in. So you're saying that, I mean, binders is basically the place to start for just about everybody. From my personal opinion. Yeah, from your personal opinion. Yeah. And I'm here to hear your opinion, so that's good. I know, but if you go to a traditional doctor, they're not going to understand. Yeah, traditional doctors, I think. There's nothing wrong with a traditional doctor, but I just don't think that they're traditionally trained to look at things like, you know, these environmental toxins.

1:22:30No, but they're trained on other things when you need things in an emergency. But another thing for people that have children with autism or ADHD, you've got to really help, again, the microbiome of the stomach because that's impacting the neurotransmission of the brain. And so you need an adaptogenic or nootropic like L-theanine, L-arginine, right? I use a lot of pine bark and velvet bean in my adaptogenics because it's microdosing and it's from a vine or root. But if you use that, it's really increasing the support of the neurotransmission. and that's your goal, right? Because you want them to be able to think straight, to produce.

1:23:04And I'll be honest, I take, for me, I take an adaptogenic because I need to be on all day because I'm going from one country to the next.

1:23:12Gary Brecka:What kind of adaptogenic do you take? I take a product called Zero N. Zero N? Uh-huh. Right in there. I like that. Get in there. But there's different products out there. That's one that I've worked on that we have a lot of professional athletes on that have used that as well. called zero in and what does it do it helps them be more focused and more the goal of it was to increase in the neural transmission i'm starting in the gi i also have tumor curcumin in there because again i talked about for me trying to detox while you're supplementing is always my goal so i'm looking for ingredients that i'm sourcing from different places in the world that we can clean and make sure there's no toxins in them that will go into the body to support the cellular health of the body.

1:23:56And so that includes detoxification because going back to that, if you don't detox, it's like putting lipstick on a pig. Oh yeah. No, I think detoxing is so, so this is, this is amazing.

1:24:13Gary Brecka:So, um, uh, Dr. Ram, you know, I, um, first of all, this, this has been amazing. I hope we can have you, have you back on. But, um, uh, for all of my podcasts, I, I sort of wind down my podcast the same way by asking all of my guests the same question. And I'm really interested in your answer to this. Um, what does it mean to you to be an ultimate human?

1:24:41To be an ultimate human, it means to me to live the best life, to help as many people as possible, but also be happy. And that when I die, I will leave a legacy for my children's children and their children to have a better life on this world.

1:24:57Gary Brecka:That's amazing. For my audience that doesn't know you, where can they find you? Where can they find your books? Where can they find out more about you? DrChristinaRom.com. That's R-A-H-M, guys all right hm and then drc ventures is a holding company that has 29 brands under it are these all like nutraceutical brands and no they're not all we have a clothing brand to protect against pollution and ems regular waste yeah a skincare brand an animal brand a military science brand so military science yeah wow yeah because what are you wearing by the way on your neck right here i just gotta have some aside from being a weapon i mean it is a weapon no no it is um it's a type of lapis that is protective and energetically so it helps you yeah it protects the energy i try to i try to use different crystals or different stones i know a lot of people like diamonds but i don't actually know i'm a huge fan of stones yeah so i i when i go to different countries i try to buy different things but energetic stones i do it's like that's why when i got into zeolites it's just a crystal orthosilic is is a silica that's a crystal which i find fascinating so if you look at the incas and aztecs and the egyptians they lined their duck ways you can look into it after i leave they lined all their water duck ways where they had all the water with different types of zeolites really is that crazy yeah probably to just absorb to absorb negative energy right and to clean the water which i think is fascinating that's so i We probably clean the water better than we do.

1:26:33Probably better than we do because ours is not doing great right now with the mycoplastics.

1:26:37Gary Brecka:That's so true. Dr. Rom, this has been amazing. I have a VIP group that these are my most like passionate followers. And so when we leave this podcast, we're going to go into that room with my VIPs because they knew you were coming on the podcast and they've got a couple of questions for you. If you're interested in becoming a VIP, You can go over to theultimatehuman.com forward slash VIP and sign up to be one of my VIPs. That's the group I really pour myself into. You get private podcasts. We do live Q &As. So we're going to go in and do one with Dr. Rahm. But otherwise, I hope you enjoyed this podcast.

1:27:13And until next time, that's just science.