219. Peter Crone: The Science of Mindset and How Your Subconscious Patterns Control Your Health & Longevity

23:51Gary Brecka:Yeah. There's a lot of that passive mentality in my industry that I'm good because everybody else is bad. Yeah. Or Gary made one mistake saying something. So everything that he says is absolute garbage and he's a charlatan and what have you. And that's for them to deal with. That's them protecting their own ego. Yeah. But so how do we begin this exercise of even just drawing awareness to some of these voices? Some of this in your monologue. Great question. And I love your dedication to your community. It's beautiful. So my crass response is, you know, whatever pisses you off. That's life. You know, my more profound poetic, because again, I write in quotes.

24:31And one of my more popular ones is that life will present you with people and circumstances to reveal where you're not free. So if you really get that, like that to me is this dimension. That is the opportunity. It is a being who's incarnated, you know, the gods, again, without getting two out there. didn't say, oh, go to planet Earth, it's Nirvana. No, go to planet Earth because your in-laws are going to piss the fuck out of you and you're going to get divorced. And that's where you're going to have to process stuff, right? So this dimension that we're all here in is because we arrive with our constraints, the opportunity in common vernacular, it's like, what are you triggered by?

25:07It's triggered me so much. The trigger is, the misnomer is that you're at the effect of life. I'm upset because, fill in the blank, my wife, my kids, my boss, my neighbor, you know somebody else who did something to elicit an expression a reaction that's how it occurs it's like when people say i'm so worried what other people think about me right no you're not you're not you're worried what you think other people think about you which is a relationship with self right so everybody else is equally worried about what you think about them they're not worried about you right so right when you start to unpack these things you start to see how again how slippery it all is and as you said with the girl that i was helping these are blind spots and they're actually deeper than beliefs beliefs belong to the identity it's the you that you are for yourself which is a perhaps a weird sentence but if people really get that it is it's not that i have a belief it's the i that you think you are is the constraint that then generates the belief all of our conscious yeah yeah isn't that right so that's why so you think that's why it gets so so subtle and again why you know i would say if i have a superpower it's listening because I can hear where people are lying to themselves and yet they're oblivious of that.

26:16So what I hear, like just as you will see the presentation of symptoms, you probably see even the presentation of a body, let alone their data, right? But you can then reverse engineer that into, okay, well, because of X, the homocysteine, for example, or the Dana's, you know, you can take that back to, okay, well, this is, you know, follow the cookie trail and then let's go to the causative factors. I do the same, but psychologically. So if someone is dealing with a health issue, a relationship issue, a financial issue, then I immediately, within a couple of minutes of them telling me a story, already know the predominant prison that they're defined by.

26:52Gary Brecka:Yeah, I've heard you describe it. And if you wouldn't mind, walk us through a real-life scenario. Sure. You've described a number of these. At the YPO meeting, you used an excellent one with the basketball player. Yeah. sort of described one and there was a woman who you also walked out of a similar prison mine prison if you wouldn't mind just identify one of these people and walk us through the process sure there's so many and you know for those who really want to witness it you know better than me recalling conceptually to watch it in real time on my instagram i still get goosebumps you know and I've done this thousands of times you know so but there's a couple that come to mind just because I was recently doing a live event and one woman beautiful articulate you know this is in front of 100 people that I don't know I mean I'm bearing a couple of friends or people who are repeat customers because they're like I can't get enough of this you know this is a woman I've never met 60 you know smart successful articulate and her quote-unquote issue is she's like you know I'm just so hurt and scared because I would love to have another relationship I've been divorced twice and both of my exes cheated on me something that unfortunately happens in everyday life there's many people right now who are either you know the uh recipient of such infidelity or themselves acting from it and um so i i said okay and so i wanted to get a little bit of a better understanding where she's from and so typically i go straight to childhood to tell me a little bit you know what's your relationship like with your folks and i don't know and so she talks about you know perhaps the lack of affection that's one contributing factor to the language that she learned to use so i again one of my expressions say there's language we use and there's language that uses us so the language we're using english the language that uses us is the uh the the code that we're oblivious to the programming that got instilled at a very formative phase of our life that now we're being driven by so i always want to find the language that's using somebody.

28:53So she started to tell her story. And the one that really stood out is that her sister would, older sister would, just like any sibling, pick on her, bully her, fatso, da, da, da, you know, you're not cool. You can't come and play with me and my friends, just everyday stuff. But what people don't recognize is the degree to which that can actually have a lasting imprint. And here's a 60-year-old woman, couple of marriages, kids. And so she said, I've done so much work, which a lot of people say, I've been to therapy and we've identified, you know, that, yeah, that I was made fun of. And so what I've realized is I believe there's something wrong with me.

29:27That's great. You've done a fair amount of work, but it's clearly hasn't mitigated whatever you're struggling with or you're suffering. So I said, okay, that's not inaccurate, but it's insufficient for the full story. So I said, okay, so when you're cool fat, so obviously that hurts as a kid, you know, I say there's two primordial emotions that are the basis of every human being's emotional scope. You're either hurt or you're scared, typically both. So it's like you feel the energy of a kid, right? When something happens that you're made fun of, you're mocked, you, you know, you tripped up in the classroom and people laughed or you did a presentation, you know, it hurts.

30:03What that then does is I say past hurt informs future fear, just as you were saying, right? We have this superimposition of past trials, tribulations. And so now the brain designed to predict and protect is rightly so going to say, well, how do I make sure that doesn't happen again? Cause that sucked. Right. So I start trying to protect myself, which is the scared where the dialogue starts. Yeah. So we have people that we know,

30:25Gary Brecka:even though I haven't started this relationship. Yeah. So that's the, you know, absolutely self-fulfilling prophecy, which is physics. So even though I'm, you know, spiritual teacher, the mind architect, whatever, really I'm just dealing with physics like you, right? Like the conversation you shared about, you know, a woman that had some questions about your process or the offense she took, you know, it's like you're explaining physics. It's okay. And so the same for me. It's like it's that categoric. If I sat down with a tech pro and I said I want to build this particular website and he had the ability to write code and I want the background to be blue, there's a particular code that will give that effect.

31:00Same with language of the code of the mind. So for her, thinking there was something wrong with her, definitely impactful that she could see it. That's helpful. But what that would give rise to as a behavioral adaptation is now trying to make sure there's nothing wrong with her. right you know that she's broken somehow well then the logical uh approach is to try and fix herself yeah which also manifests especially as a woman you know being more subservient secondary to the male which itself is unattractive because really it's a uh degradation of your own sense of self-worth which energetically whether it's aware or not is unattractive so the man is then going to find or the woman is going to go and find somebody who's more confident right so again self-fulfilling.

31:39But anyway, I said to her, okay, well, that's definitely part of it. But if there's something wrong with you, that's the symptom of something much deeper. What does that mean? And I said, remind me when you said your sister said you can't play with them. What does that feel like as a kid? You know, that really speaks to that primal sense of not belonging. And so we got to, or she got to, I try and get people to understand it sometimes because it's so blind they don't know until i said in which this case i said you know what if it's just that you're not wanted and that like you know going back to the mind being the space she lived in when she suddenly saw the lights came on of the home that she's been in which is she's not wanted the floodgates just opened and the body starts to go into this sort of tremors and this response very similar to a gazelle being chased by a line you know where all of this pent-up survival instincts yeah which was beautiful uncomfortable sometimes for the person but she she was such a trooper you know even at the age of 60 the older we get typically the more ingrained these condition programs are and she's like she just got it she's like oh my god of course i would attract humans that would replicate or at least reflect me not being wanted which meant they had to cheat and so when you understand the mechanics and what was for me the most powerful part at the end is i I said, okay, so now do you see, like I always investigate the validity of these statements.

33:05So is it true that you're not wanted? Is that an absolute truth? And she's like, no, that's when you step out of prison. We use the evidence of our childhoods typically. And then that becomes reinforced over time. See, they're like, my husband cheated. Of course I'm not wanted. And the next guy, it's like, we just want to be right again about our own shortcomings. But what I do is I use this just basic questioning. is an absolute truth you're not enough is an absolute truth you're not wanted is an absolute truth that you know you're not going to be okay no you know who could you be in the absence of that constraint wow you know i could be free i i mean i could have a relationship with meaning i

33:47Gary Brecka:could have a relationship that lasted an entirely different existence deserves to be loved yeah rather than someone by herself to start with because really all of her attempts were to overcome and compensate for who she was, the you that you are for yourself. She didn't know that who she is is not wanted. She just got to experience the ramifications of that perspective. Over the last 20 years in human biology, one compound I've trusted again and again is NAD+. It's critical for energy, focus, and cellular repair, but your levels drop around age 30. I used to administer NAD via IVs in my clinics, but now I take Roe Nutrition's Liposomal NAD, the first oral formula that actually works.

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35:17She'd found it for herself. And I said, I'm just going to do a little litmus test. If you date a guy and he cheats on you, does that mean you're not wanting? She said, no. So she was even okay with the same result, but not eliciting the internal trauma that had been there for decades.

35:33Gary Brecka:Yeah, what was amazing about, just because having been in proximity to you doing this and watching this sort of liberation happen in real time, What was interesting about you investigating this woman's picture of who she was was she had just exited a tough relationship. And it made her obviously feel very unwanted. Yeah. And you said, well, what if I was to tell you that next week you're going to meet Prince Charming? Yeah. This is the one you've always waited for. Yeah. Right? And finally, you're going to have the relationship that you wanted. She said, I wouldn't believe you. Yeah. And it was just very profound to me because I had a period like that in my life.

36:28Gary Brecka:As a scientist, human biologist, biology background, very matter of fact. This causes this. This leads to this. There's an explanation for everything. And I think men in general, there was a book written years ago called Men Are From Mars, Women Are From Venus. Do you remember that one? And they always talked about the man's toolbox. Like the woman is like espousing all this emotional stuff. And as she's talking, she's not even getting to the end of her sentence. The guy's trying to fix it. He's like, well, it hurts when you do that. Don't do that. What do you mean you don't like your best friend?

36:59Gary Brecka:Stop talking to her. But she's my best friend. But you don't like her. So just cut her off. But I can't do that. Like men are trying to fix, fix, fix. And then eventually, as the book was saying, they just want to be heard. I've learned that being in a marriage. But it was a very difficult time for me to realize that the repeated consequences of my environment were all of my own self-sabotage. And I had become a very narcissistic person, developed this very egocentric personality that I was protecting. and when i left my previous industry and said i'm gonna not just leave that industry but that person behind yeah um and and you have to leave a lot of people in your past too that still think that you're that person because they they will drag the old you forward too yeah of course but it was the most liberating thing for me and mine was just a massive career shift yeah i'm not going to predict mortality anymore i'm going to help people live healthier happier longer lives yeah the difference in the people that I have attracted from my wife to the relationship with my children, which has dramatically deepened since then, to the relationships of the people that I've been blessed enough to be around in this industry, so much more fulfilling than what I had back then.

38:24Gary Brecka:I wish I'd had you years before that because I think there's so many people that are, you know, in places in their life where they are frustrated, they're not happy, they're not happy with themselves, they're not happy with their environment, their relationship, what have you. And they're, like you said, looking to the outside world. Look what my neighbor did to piss me off, my spouse did to make me feel this way. And I think going on this journey of introspection, is it possible for someone to do this themselves it is it just takes a profound level of discipline and self-reflection honesty and honesty i think the nature of life is relativity right you know you're lying in bed you're hot you move your leg to another part of the sheet it's cooler only do you have an experience because of relativity and so in the experimental range and the experiential range of life, it's all based on relationship, which is why relationships themselves, typically romantic, are normally the number one topic of conversation in any coffee shop around the world.

39:36Because that's where really we're getting the reflection. So it is possible. I've certainly done a lot of introspection, but I also know I'm not naive to say that the profound shifts that I went through, similar to what you're just describing, which I'll speak to in a minute, I feel like are the byproduct of relationship for me, particularly romantic, you know, wherever I, you know, my parents died when I was very young. And so my first profound relationship where I thought had meaning and love as best as I knew it at 27 years of old of age, you know, really when that, when she left me, you know, I thought my desperation and my fear and my upset and the sleepless nights was because of her leaving me.

40:13No, that was the catalyst to pull to the surface all of the unprost trauma of my parents dying and me being stuck in the narrative of I lost my parents, which is, you know, it's a common experience or a narrative that people are sorry for your loss. You know, I kept hearing that like, oh, my gosh, orphan by the age of 17. It's awful, you know. And so you continually are getting reinforced the story of woe. And so for me, relationships are the conduit, you know, especially romantic because it's almost like a surgeon, right? I guess at one level, I'm sort of doing this emotional, spiritual surgery.

40:46And oftentimes, I'd walk into a sports team and the training staff, the coaches are like, when you're not here, how can we help the guys? I'm like, you can't unless they're willing to open the door. Because the ego and the mind, it's designed to defend itself. And so I use a very simple analogy of like, if I were the greatest interior designer in the world, got all the greatest furniture, my tastes are impeccable. or everybody's seeking my counsel. If I went to somebody's house, barged through the front door, you know, with all of my guys and my furniture, you know, depending on which state I'm in in America, I could get shot.

41:23Florida for sure. And Texas. And Texas and Montana. Do it in Los Angeles, you'll be fine. Yeah, they'll be fine. It's their fault. Yeah. So even I might be well sought after, I wouldn't be well received. So, you know, so a long winded answer of saying, yes, you need interaction, you need communion, you need community, you need conversation. So for anybody at home, like, you know, in my, in my panel yesterday, I was talking about what, how people can start this process is just find at least that one person with whom you feel the least amount of judgment from. Now, I hope people at least have that, you know, it could, it might not be your spouse even it might not be a parent typically it's not but it could be a best friend it could be you know um somebody at work who for whatever reasons you feel kinship and you feel like that they've got your ear um and i'm going to be speaking about that today i think they're the three things that every human being craves more than anything is to be seen heard and held and so that's the space to start to unpack because typically people don't know how to listen people are too busy reacting it's like you know the old radio expression of you know wif whatever it is

42:35Gary Brecka:what's in it for me yeah w-i-i-f-m yeah yeah exactly and so that's typically the lens that people listen through and so there's no holding somebody's reality i i was sharing on another show like i was at a retreat in uh hawaii working with a group and this mother was talking about how she's so concerned for her younger son who always feels inadequate relative to his older brother and she can see the dynamic in the older brother because he's older is faster quicker smart whatever you know but for the younger sibling this was like you know distressing to the point that he kept saying you know he was feeling the malaise and the the apathy of like well what's the point you know da da da he's always better and the mother being very nurturing would come in no no no you're this and sort of giving accolades and acknowledgement and i said to her but you're not listening to him and she was like what do you mean like you're not listening to his reality you're in reinforcing and superimposing your reality on top of his and she's like oh my god like he's always telling me i don't listen i said well there's your first clue i said i don't want him to stay there but in order to be able to take him to a new frequency you have to at least acknowledge where he's at then you can inquire what i really what what's that like to feel like that next to your brother get into his world and immediately what you're showing him is that you care which is a value proposition you know the appreciation of a stock in a corporation that i work with is directly correlated as far as i'm concerned to the degree which you appreciate your personnel right so true versus like making people wrong for mistakes you know now people are living in fear and pressure so she's like my god i never thought about that and i said yeah like he just wants to be heard then when he's heard he's going to feel seen and valued and then his value which is his main concern relative to his brother starts to all boats rise with the tide and he's going to feel better about himself just by being heard to say what's it like to yeah where did that start and then you'll find a memory oh you know well i don't know i was playing with him like you know could be years ago and he just didn't want me to play with him and his friends oh my god i can really see how that would hurt come here you know like it's a totally different way of engaging the thing that i always love i always like to leave these sort of you know closing invitations and i say to the woman go home and meet your son and she just lost it wow yeah yeah so but so point being there's a lot of that though i mean oh i i grew up as as an only child um but i raised three children yeah um and now i have a fourth um with sage who entered my life at a very young age she was five and a half she's 17 now amazing and And it's like a daughter to me because of the timeframe that she entered our life.

45:27Gary Brecka:We have this great modern family. But it is very interesting to see the dynamic between siblings as they get older. Certain are very independent. Some are dependent. One's not better than the other. No. It's just interesting how the hierarchy coming into the house and establishing their domains leads to these vastly different personalities. and i would assert you know again there's no evidence you know it's just intuition and people can take it or leave it but that is a conscious choice from the soul to experience because it's often seen as okay you're the the runt of the litter you're the youngest the weakest you know that that's sort of the worst case scenario but the number of people i've worked with who were the eldest sibling who had no childhood because their role became i'm responsible for the life with pressure of my younger sister or brother and then they become the care provider the people pleaser they don't know how to speak up because their needs didn't matter relative to the younger sibling who was weaker right and so you know wherever you come in you're here to experience what it is that you're wanting to transcend so and these are the stages like to i want to as a man of my word come back to what you shared about this shift in your life and you started to attract all these other people to me that's no different than shifting the frequency on a radio you can from one particular vibration which attracted a particular you know in this case music which was the lifestyle the people the career the dysfunction and the trials and tribulations you shift currency which uh frequency which to me is like a vertical ascension you you you you tune yourself to a different vibration and then just no different to a radio the everything is out there all the data you're just going to attract different scenarios so incredible i mean just the yeah you know the universal law of attraction you know i am such a deep believer now yeah um and you know there's a lot of evidence science and physics that are starting to explain this yeah you know we're getting more and more sensitive equipment you know we're we're really starting to reveal this quantum entanglement you know where we really are truly all interconnected you know there are things interestingly sometimes that don't fit the scientific narrative so we just sort of push them aside we talked about this the other day and one of them is the quantum a lot of people don't believe in this entanglement yeah this universal entanglement but it's very true yeah and um you know we call it intuition all kinds of other things but it really is this interconnectedness and i talk about this all the time about how in blue zones and longevity research um isolation yeah was the single biggest impact other than you know terminal illness or trauma right um Obviously, a bus could take somebody out.

48:07Gary Brecka:But isolation for human beings as a comorbidity, which is how we put things into the model, had one of the greatest impacts on lifespan. So if you wanted to cut somebody's life expectancy in half at any age, you would put them in isolation. Broken heart syndrome. We have these terms, but they're very real issues. And what you're saying is that, if I'm paraphrasing a lot of what you're teaching, is that we can be isolated in plain sight. Yeah. Because we've isolated ourselves. Some of the loneliest people I know are married with kids.

48:53Like you, only child, orphan. I could assert that I probably spent more time alone than any human being. Again, as a big claim, but in that realm. Right. And yet, I'm not lonely. I've never been lonely. And again, without sounding too poetic or philosophical, I'm connected to source because I am source right now. Of course, I love companionship. The number of people like yourself and Sage that I've met on this trip that I'm so excited for the friendships and the creations that we're going to explore together. But loneliness is really a reflection of being misidentified with the identity as opposed to the essence of who you are.

49:28Gary Brecka:Say that again. Loneliness. Yes, is where we've become misidentified with our identity, our human existence, as opposed to the essence of who we are. We're human beings. The human points to the equipment, brain and body. The being is the essence. Like if I died right in front of you, as inconvenient as that would be for the show. Yeah, I mean, I'd have to cancel the podcast. No, no, you'd probably be the most viewed. I mean, like someone died on your show. Bro, he just died on your show, dude. You couldn't even fucking save him. Actually, good point. If you wouldn't mind. Yeah, that'd be great for numbers.

50:06As far as you see me, as most people, as a human, my outfit, my clothes, every tissue and all of my organelles and my cells, they're all here. Where the hell did I go? Didn't see me get up and leave. So that to me starts to just in pure logic explain that the essence of who we are is ineffable. Like we can only point to it. you know it's the all of these beautiful expressions like the seeker is the sort is one of my quotes like the essence of where we're looking from is what we're looking for

50:36Gary Brecka:it's like a lighthouse you know is a very essence of where we're looking from is what we're looking for that is so profound because yeah it's we orient ourselves based on our perceptions our mind um you know it's it's it's funny years ago i i i know a very very famous stock trader and he um he's being interviewed on cnpc and we were talking about his history of picking great stocks and they and they asked him you know what what his secret was and you were expecting this big explanation about p.e ratios and all those things performance and finding you know the the needle a haystack that nobody knew about and he said um the secret to my success is that i have come to materially understand that perception is more important than reality yeah absolutely and uh yeah it is so true yeah um you know the fear of missing out makes people impulsively buy very often it drives it drove the whole dot-com revolution you know most of these companies weren't worth the dust that floated around the paper they were printed on much less the paper they were printed on yeah and then we get to billion dollar valuations because this fear of missing out yeah and and i think we create these perceptions of course um yeah and and that becomes our our reality reality is really deception is reality that we live on one globe but there's eight billion worlds yeah because we all live in our own in reality and it's so beautiful if you understand the mechanics of this dimension that every human being will attract whatever is necessary for their own evolution.

52:14Isn't that cool? So you're not seeing, it's not the world you see, it's the way you see. And when people really get that, like it's not that you're upset by or because of, it's just the way that you're interpreting that as usually a perceived threat.

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53:44Gary Brecka:Your future self will thank you. Now let's get back to the Ultimate Human podcast. You know, one of my early on quotes or expressions for myself is, you know, when I was growing and starting to be more at peace with circumstances, can I be with this? Whatever it is, can I be with this? Like unaffected, not a victim of anything. and that to me was the equivalent to true peace and vitality disease the absence of ease i'm not at peace with circumference you know oh road rage you know that person just cut me off you know that person no but you're giving them all that power over your internal terrain of emotional well-being yeah you know that's a that's a wake-up call to do you want to be responsible for your health or do you want to give it all over to that complete stranger in a piece of metal and plastic you know that interrupted your day for five seconds you know right it's quite fascinating you know so that's where people really again for me it's an on-off switch you're either a victim of circumstance or you're fully responsible for your life end of story wow yeah and that's a that's a place that most people don't want to go they want the experience of it but it's much easier to point fingers but you know as they've often said you point a finger at someone you've got three coming back at yourself yeah but that's the that's the ego being met that's a protective mechanism i mean which is isolation yeah i mean what is one of the worst consequences for a human being you get thrown in prison and then how do you amplify that solitary confinement oh yeah second law of thermodynamics you separate a piece is going to entropy and eventually die that's right you know and so what i'm speaking to is you know i i can remember a line i'm going to see if i can actually recall it exactly i said you know at the end this guy was so scared that he he didn't belong He was adopted into a family.

55:28So much of his story was, well, I wasn't actually part of the family, which was really a deeper underlying sense of like he just doesn't belong. Similar to not wanted, not loved. They're all bedfellow. And at the end, I said, welcome to the gang that you were never not a part of. Humanity, life. And that itself, because he was worried. He started with Instagram posts. He's like, you know, I'm always worried about the one person who doesn't like my posts. Oh, my God.

55:56Gary Brecka:If I worried about the one person who didn't like my posts, I'd be in a hole somewhere. But it's something we can all relate to, you know? Like we get nine compliments and one criticism. That's the one that keeps us up at night. It's so true. Because what it does is it triggers that part of us that we're here to reconcile. Especially if it hits close to that sensitive part that we've protected with our ego, especially if it does that. How do we become more aware? It's through talking to people like yourself that makes me more aware of the stages that I went through. But I won't say that I consciously said, okay, I recognize my ego.

56:37Gary Brecka:I've dismantled my ego. I'm now this person, not that person. And it happened to me by circumstance, being frustrated with where I was, really wanting a material change in my life. And along with that came this profound, deep sense of joy, connection, satisfaction. And now I'm conscious of what really feeds my soul, for lack of better words. Where I really draw true enjoyment, which is almost entirely from the inner circle of my family. Like I live for these in-betweens with my kids and my wife and the time that I get to spend with them just being real. And I would exchange any monetary cycle in my life for those moments.

57:26Gary Brecka:And it usually is very basic things. hiking in the woods, driving racers around on the property, getting a workout in with my sons. But how do we begin this journey of even getting in touch with our ego? Because sort of by its very nature, it's asking us to invite the question of whether or not we're not really in control or haven't been in control, which has its own set of issues, right? Huge, yeah. So I think drawing awareness to the fact that, I mean, the ego is really, really detrimental. It's the greatest adversary of our life. And yet for that reason, the ultimate form of accomplishment.

58:15And a lot of people, you know, the ego gets a bad rap. And ego to me is interchangeable with personality. Yeah, yeah. I'm using that sort of as a catch-all to identity. It's just really like the you that you are for yourself. Peter, Gary, you know, it's like whatever. and then it's got all of these undercurrents of like narratives that are like deleterious so start with his awareness right like i say these two main buckets that i deal with his awareness to carl jung said you know until the unconscious is made conscious it will rule your life and you'll call it fate right so you know the traditional definition of guru in sanskrit is one who brings light so awareness is really bringing light to that which you can't see a blind spot you know the number of times i've worked with someone oh my god i've i've that's been there for 40 years yeah and it's that like it's that sneaky you know and yet it's the greatest game afoot to me like this is the game and you know when i start my three-month mastermind helping people understand and teach all of this you know i always say you're not going to survive this mastermind because the you that arrived is not going to be the you that leaves right so and that's a good thing right yeah yeah and so it's helping them understand that really who you are for yourself the opportunity is to break out of that like it's this sort of invisible like straight jacket for the soul you know right and so how do we get there we have to first of one of the best ways is really to become sufficiently aware, not necessarily even of your constraints, but of become aware of the effects of circumstance, right?

59:54You know, the thing is in this day and age, we've got so many means of escape, right? To meaning placate suffering and pain, right? Fill in the blank, you know, food being probably one of the first earliest ones, right? The early adopters of a, you know, comfort. And then of course we've got alcohol, nicotine, they were early on and now we've got...

1:00:10Gary Brecka:Just things to keep our mind busy because being present, being silent, I mean, years ago was a very difficult thing for me. I never liked to sit in silence, so I constantly filled my time. And I think a lot of us do that. The moment we arrive to a meeting, we're five minutes early, we can't actually just sit in the lobby and wait to be called. We've got to get on the phone. We've got to get that stimulus. Because maybe it's a threat to be with our own thoughts. Yeah, that's the awkward silence on a first date. It's not awkward silence. It's just silence. And then you're left with your internal dialogue, which is awkward.

1:00:48Right, right. You're left with your internal dialogue, which is awkward. I hope they don't find out what I think about myself. Which, of course, then you go into a marriage and hope to protect for the next 20 years until you can't do it anymore. And then they're like, screw you, I'm out of here. Yeah, yeah. Take your trials and tribulations and internal conversations to the next person.

1:01:09Gary Brecka:Yeah, my wife is always telling me, you're lucky you don't hear the internal conversations going on here. Well, we're going to get rid of that, so I'm going to work on that. No, that's great. I'm excited for you to work with Sage. You know, as an Ayurvedic practitioner, too, which I find fascinating that you've sort of melded all of these things, this left brain, right brain, ancient wisdom, ancient practice of medicine, the oldest form of medicine. Yeah. They have these different, I don't want to misdescribe them, but body morphic images and body morphs, for lack of better words, pita, vada, kapha.

1:01:41Yeah.

1:01:42Gary Brecka:I think I'm a pita kapha. Yeah. And when it was described to me, it was incredibly spot on. I have all the manifestations of it or run hot, all those things. Where does that play into all of this? Because as an Ayurvedic practitioner, you don't just put that aside. No, no, it's a beautiful complement to the work. You know, for me, again, since I started, like you, human biology, exercise physiology, I was a trainer to the stars for a few years, sculpting bodies. That was great, but it's dense, right? This stuff takes a while to shift. And most of the people that go on the track that you and I are on don't wind up where you are.

1:02:18No.

1:02:18Gary Brecka:Right? Yeah. No, I feel very fortunate that I slipped into this through my own sort of trials and tribulations, fucking around, finding out, and going through a ton of my own suffering. I kind of break through the other side. What was more helpful, the fuck around or the find out part? I think they were sort of inextricably connected. Can't have one without the other. So I think, yeah, it's a calling. Even on ChatGPT, you look up Peter Crone, they're like, oh, it's not a work, it's so much as a movement and a calling. So really, I have the audacity now to think that I can truly shift the course of humanity by ending human suffering because really, we're running a redundant operating system, which is based on survival.

1:02:58so you know when we get out of that then it's literally an entirely different frequency to live from it's an entirely new domain and world um so yeah for me to like why i got there is again i just felt like i i saw the matrix you know like not just the movie but the world that we live in you know that albeit a film from it's hard to believe they made that 25 something years ago maybe more and it was so spot on but it was a documentary about human life you know and so for me for whatever call it cosmic my karma my astrologers will always say i've got mercury and jupiter in the first house you're a guru you're a great communicator you articulate these intricate patterns you make the profound palatable you know and so it's just dharma you know it's like why are you brilliant at what you do like this is my realm of genius and so i feel blessed fortunate um that i can truly uh dissolve suffering you know i say i don't solve problems anymore i dissolve them so for me to get to that place where i can remember i ski instructed for a while too one summer during college and i had two people at the top of a slope and i'd watch them come down on paper identical you know different name and family and you know astrology and whatever but they had same body same experience same equipment but one was super timid and one was just like go for it you know that to me then i started to see it's not hardware it's software yeah and so then I was like okay this is like okay if I can change the software then I completely and directly impact hardware and that's why the mind for me sits out the body because if you have code that is I'm not good enough I'm this I'm that then your body is living in that sort of hostile derogatory environment so at some time depending on your constitution you know if you're kaffer great then I can understand that you can withstand oh yeah you know you're thick as you know you're tough as nails your skin is thick you know literally but also figuratively you know if you're pitta then yes you're going to have inflammatory disorders so where it helps me in my work is it's supportive in as much as i know of utter person more like a sage and you know they're going to struggle more with future propositions that are like worst case scenarios which then what's that going to create fear anxiety worry how does that manifest in the physiology might eventually become hashimoto's adrenal fatigue because you're too busy like the hamster on the wheel trying to figure what's going to happen because really you're being driven from

1:05:19Gary Brecka:the concern that you're not going to be okay yeah pull the rug from beneath it's like oh then all of a sudden the physiological impacts dissipate yeah it's a person i know they're going to run hot what does that mean emotionally they're the perfectionist light fire brings the ability to see so you and i have the capacity to see things other people can't see but when it's out of balance that becomes perfectionism maybe even tyranny right the ceos that we work with they're visionaries they see but if they're out of whack and it's built on a foundation of not enough then that has to be they have to be in that position they have to be right yeah but fire when it's balanced is inspiration it's teachers it's people who see they can help you see without making it a judgment or making you wrong and then our beautiful you know coffers like I said, they're accumulative disorders.

1:06:11So I understand that they're going to hold onto things. They're going to be stuck in their history. They're going to tend towards things like depression, guilt, shame. They're holding on. There's a heaviness. It's hard for them to get out of a relationship and a job. There's a density. So they need, you know, I can speak to a Kapha way tougher than I can speak to a Vata who needs a little bit more molly cuddling. It's okay. Don't worry about it. They want to feel safe. They don't feel, you know, secure in themselves because they're all up in the ethers. Again, brilliant, tapped in. They're so enthusiastic about life.

1:06:40They're passionate. They're spontaneous. They're the great PR and marketing people. They're enthused, but then they collapse. They get things really quickly. They forget them just as quickly. They're going to long-term end up in the Parkinson's and Alzheimer's because they're degenerative disorders. So I can pull from all of these different energies. And then immediately when someone's telling my story, almost unconsciously, I can say, okay, well, they're a pit of predominant person, they're going to be super self-critical. So where did they hear from a teacher, a high school coach, a mom, a dad that, you know, I have one of my MLB guys, he could go four for five at a baseball game, which is batting 800.

1:07:16And he'd still kind of walk around like on his chin on his chest. I'm like, what's up? And he's like, well, I could have, you know, I could have done better. I'm like, where did you learn that? And he's like, well, I don't know. We'd go home from games and my dad would always say, what happened at the fifth at bat yeah you know so he's still in that code of like it wasn't quite enough you know i i i heard

1:07:35Gary Brecka:you say there's there are plenty of male professional athletes that are male professional athletes because they wanted to prove their father wrong yeah um and it just shows how profound these voices are yeah there's nothing more there's no greater virus than a thought and to me you know there's nothing that hurts us more than our own thinking and when you really get that so to go back to your question how people can start look at the impact of the way that you talk to yourself over time sometimes it's not so obvious because it comes normalized or as we discussed you you learn to escape the pain you know even medication which is a medication right it's drugs like no one's taking medication in pharma medication is preventative or curative right if you have to get a refill you don't have a medicine you have a drug very simple distinction right and so that's the first thing to see anyone out there on any form of medication whether it's social media actual drugs street or recreational prescribed food sex netflix you know look at the effect you know how many people say they have dreams and aspirations get in shape you know create a business start a homestead whatever people are passionate about but you're not doing it why there's an effect but you've just become okay with it people become resigned and cynical they're no longer like actually enthusiastic for their life it becomes normalized right so that's one of the places to look because normal is safe you know i mean it occurs as safe yeah it's actually the most dangerous way to live yeah i totally agree with you yeah wow um i that was that was amazing um peter i mean first of all where can my audience find out more about you uh just my name is everywhere like in terms of all the platforms meaning it's not everywhere, but it's peterkrone.com for a website.

1:09:20It's at Peter Krohn for Instagram, my LinkedIn, my Facebook. Yeah, so I think my Instagram is probably the most informative. Like I don't post pictures of me, you know, with cars and salads. It's all like hopefully,

1:09:33Gary Brecka:it's all hopefully inspirational clips. Or some salads. I don't know what people do. So inspiring. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. See your Lamborghini and your quinoa salad. Exactly, here's my lunch today. No, I like to take clips from beautiful conversations like this. So hopefully it's super informative. if people want to see live in action when I'm working with people. Because everyone can relate. That's the beauty. I can work with six people in front of hundreds and, yeah, everybody got something because, oh, my God, that's how I feel. So the vicarious effect. That's why I always take questions from the audience too.

1:10:03Gary Brecka:Because somebody brave enough to raise their hand and ask the question, there's somebody five seats away that has the exact same question. 100%. And somebody who didn't even know they needed the question. Exactly. Yeah. Well, fantastic. I don't think I've ever been more excited to ask a guest this question because I end all my podcasts by asking the same question. And then after this, we're going to go into my VIP group and they have some special questions for you. I have this group called the Ultimate Human VIPs. And this is the community that I'm really trying to build to influence the world.

1:10:38Gary Brecka:And I let them know ahead of time who's coming on the podcast. So they have some questions for you. Okay, great. um but i end all my podcasts by asking every guest the same question and that and there's no right or wrong answer but what does it mean to you to be an ultimate human what does it mean to be an ultimate human i think i already have a predisposition because of my work to be a being who not only embraces their humanity but recognizes the misidentification with it such that they can really live from the essence of who we are and therefore experience true freedom love and possibility from the essence of who we are that's a big yeah distinction yeah because most people are most people are trying to get away from something they don't want right even with the people you where they have their issue the hype by play you know hypertension and like the whatever's going on in their physiology so most people again i say you'll never create the life you want by trying to fix a life you don't want and that's the way that most people are currently wired i have my problems health wealth relationships how do i fix it which only perpetuates it that's trying to get away from something if you're more proactive you're at least working towards something but they're both based in time and for me i want to live from something the essence of who we are so that is to be the ultimate human being is to live from the essence of the timeless limitless beings that we are if it's not the best answer i've had so far it's up there i've had hundreds of episodes peter this was absolutely amazing brother thank you so much i'm looking forward to uh continuing to get to know you and yeah like following your work you definitely piqued my interest and i think my audience is going to absolutely love this so thank you guys until next time that's just science