In short
Separates fact vs fiction about NAD+ (nicotinamide adenine dinucleotide) supplements and anti-aging claims, focusing on why NAD+ declines and what actually helps.
Guests
No named guests; the episode references “Hayley Beaver” (television appearance, IV NAD promise) and “Kendall Jenner” (mentioned as sitting nearby), but they are not interviewed.
Key claims
NAD+ is essential for cellular energy (ATP production) and for DNA repair/stress-response enzymes; NAD+ declines with age; the decline is attributed to faster destruction by the enzyme CD38 on immune cells, especially with chronic inflammation. Examples: liver tissue ~30% lower over 60; brain imaging shows downward NAD trend. Precursors (NMN/NR) can raise blood NAD better than plain NAD due to gut breakdown; supplements aren’t risk-free—avoid with active/recent cancer and skip pregnancy/breastfeeding. Notable examples of “fiction”: hangover cures, risk-free for everyone, “never age” promises.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOUnderstanding NAD's Role in Energy and Aging
1:49 to 3:05
Explore NAD's essential functions and how it declines with age.
“So claim number one, NAD is just another overhyped supplement fad.”
The Myths About NAD Levels
3:06 to 3:57
Debunk common myths regarding NAD production and loss with aging.
“There's an enzyme called CD38 that sits on the surface of your immune cells.”
NAD Supplements: Benefits and Risks
3:58 to 5:01
Examine the safety and effectiveness of NAD supplements and who should avoid them.
“As a standalone ingredient, NMN and nicotinamide riboside actually carry the deeper research trial.”
Choosing the Right NAD Supplement
5:02 to 6:05
Discover what to look for in effective NAD supplements and their formulations.
“talk to your oncologist before touching anything that raises NAD.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00Hayley Beaver sat right next to me in a chair on national television, hooked up to an IV bag, and said she was going to do NAD for the rest of her life and never age. And almost overnight, NAD Plus turned into a$4.5 billion industry of IV drips, patches, nasal sprays, pills, and powders, with clinics charging$2 ,000 a bag on the promise of reversing your age. Today, we're going to separate the facts from the fiction on NAD, because some of what you've heard is absolutely true, and some of it is complete nonsense. NED, nicotinamide adenine dinucleotide, is in every single cell in your body, and it has two jobs.
0:36The first job is energy. The second job is how that NED gets used. NED is real. It declines in your tissues as you age.
0:43Gary Brecka:The reason is that it's being destroyed, not that you stop baking it. Hangover cures? Fiction. Risk-free for everyone? Also fiction. Here's the biggest fact of all.
1:01ultimate human
1:06Haley Beaver sat right next to me in a chair on national television hooked up to an IV bag and said she was going to do NAD for the rest of her life and never age Kendall Jenner was sitting right in the chair next to her and almost overnight NAD Plus turned into a four and a half billion dollar industry of IV drips, patches, nasal sprays pills and powders with clinics charging$2 ,000 a bag on the promise of reversing your age, curing your hangover, and even fixing your jet lag.
1:34Gary Brecka:So today, we're going to separate the facts from the fiction on NAD, because some of what you've heard is absolutely true, and some of it is complete nonsense. And by the end of this episode, you'll know exactly which is which. I'm Gary Brecka, this is The Ultimate Human, and let's get started. So claim number one, NAD is just another overhyped supplement fad. Verdict? Fiction. NED, nicotinamide adenine dinucleotide, is in every single cell in your body, and it has two jobs. The first job is energy. Every calorie you eat, whether it comes from fat, carbohydrate, or protein, has to pass through NED on its way to becoming ATP, which is the energy currency of your cells.
2:13Gary Brecka:Without NED, that conversion doesn't happen. The second job is how that NED gets used. There are enzymes in your body that eat it. The proteins that regulate your metabolism and how your cells respond to stress, they run on NAD. The enzymes that repair damage to your DNA burn through NAD every time they go to work. So the hype was never about whether NAD matters because it clearly does. The hype is about how you get it back. So claim number two, your NAD levels crash 50 % by the time you're 40. True. Scientists have studied NAD levels in the skin, brain, liver, and even the muscle. They found that NAD runs lower in older people.
2:51Gary Brecka:For example, liver tissue in people over 60 comes in around 30 % lower than in younger adults. And brain imaging shows the same downward trend. Claim number three, your NAD drops because your body stops making it. The verdict? Fiction. Your body doesn't stop making NAD as you age. You actually destroy it faster. There's an enzyme called CD38 that sits on the surface of your immune cells. And its job is to chew up NAD. Research out of the Mayo Clinic showed that as you age, and especially as chronic inflammation climbs, CD38 levels rise and start burning through your NAD pool faster than you replace it.
3:28Gary Brecka:So a real NAD strategy has three parts. You replenish what's low, you slow down what's destroying it, and you support the machinery your body uses to recycle it. Claim number four, NMN and NR are better than taking NAD itself. Verdict? It depends. NMN and nicotinamide riboside are what we call precursors, meaning they're raw materials your body converts into NAD through a few enzymatic steps. Taking NAD itself is a direct replacement of the finished molecule. Now, let me give the precursor crowd their due because they do have a point. As a standalone ingredient, NMN and nicotinamide riboside actually carry the deeper research trial.
4:06Gary Brecka:Clinical trials show that they reliably raise blood NAD levels, and if you're comparing them against plain NAD powder stuffed into a capsule, the precursors win that fight. Because as we covered earlier, naked NAD gets torn apart in your gut before it even reaches the cell. But notice the assumption buried in that comparison. It assumes the NAD shows up naked and alone. And that's exactly why my verdict is, it depends. Because the answer entirely depends on what the NAD is paired with. This is the reason Symbiotica built their formula the way that they did, with the protective liposome and added cofactors.
4:42Gary Brecka:Claim number five, NAD supplements are completely risk-free. The verdict? Fiction. And I'm gonna tell you exactly who should not take them. The short-term human safety data is actually excellent. Trials have gone up to three grams a day with only mild side effects, but well-tolerated is not the same as the right for everybody. If you have active cancer or a recent cancer history, talk to your oncologist before touching anything that raises NAD. Harm in humans has not been shown, but that's a conversation for you and your doctor, not one for a podcast. If you're pregnant or breastfeeding, there's simply no data.
5:16Gary Brecka:So sit this one out. Anyone who tells you a supplement carries zero risk for zero people is wrong. The dose, the person, and the context always matter. Claim number six, all NED supplements are the same. So buy the cheapest one. Verdict, fiction. NED is a big, fragile, charged molecule. And if you swallow it raw, your gut just tears it apart before it even reaches your cells. So the form matters, the delivery matters, and whether the formula addresses that CD38 drain matters. I take Symbiotica's liposomal NAD every single morning. The NAD is wrapped in a liposome, a protective fat bubble that's designed to carry it through the digestive tract.
5:54Gary Brecka:And Symbiotica's clinical data shows up to three times more absorption than standard formulas. But what actually sold me was that the formula is built on the whole framework that we just talked about. You get 300 milligrams of NAD to replenish, abogenin to slow that CD38 drain, TMG to support the recycling, and niacin so your body can build more on its own. So let's recap. NAD is real. It declines in your tissues as you age. The reason is that it's being destroyed, not that you stop making it. Hangover cures? Fiction. Risk-free for everyone? Also fiction. Here's the biggest fact of all. No molecule on earth replaces the fundamentals.
6:32Gary Brecka:sunlight in the morning, breath work, real food, quality sleep, and daily movement have to come first. Get the foundation right and then build on top of it. That's how you separate fact from fiction. If you want to go deeper, the full protocols, the live calls, the science behind every one of these answers, and the discounts on the tools I actually use, come join me in the VIP community. That's where the real work happens. Until next time, fact versus fiction. That's just science.
From the publisher
NAD+ became a $4.5 billion industry of IV drips, patches, nasal sprays and powders almost overnight, with clinics charging $2,000 a bag to reverse your age and cure your hangover. Some of what you have been told about NAD+ is true. Some of it is complete nonsense. Gary Brecka runs seven of the biggest NAD+ claims against the research and tells you exactly which is which.
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Timestamps
00:00 – Intro of Show
02:05 – Every calorie passes through NAD+ to become ATP
02:15 – The enzymes that burn NAD+ for metabolism and DNA repair
02:45 – Liver tissue runs 30% lower after 60
03:15 – CD38 and chronic inflammation destroy the NAD+ pool
03:40 – Replenish, slow the drain, support recycling
03:52 – NMN and nicotinamide riboside as precursors
04:35 – Why raw NAD+ is torn apart in the gut
05:00 – Cancer history, pregnancy and who should not take it
06:35 – Sunlight, sleep and movement come first
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