My Toughest Triathlon Yet: Wild Seals, Hypothermia, & When It Almost Ended...

0:00Welcome to Untapped. For the next few weeks, Spencer is going to be joining us from wherever he is in the world as he tries to complete his world record attempt, seven full distance triathlons on all seven constants of the world. And right now, Spencer is joining us live from Cape Town. So let's start with, obviously, after London, you went to Arizona. So that was a very quick turnaround. Do you want to tell us just quickly sort of, yeah, how was Arizona? Arizona is the only official Ironman event of the seven. So we were competing, I think there's about 2 ,000 people, maybe a bit less, about 1 ,800 athletes.

0:41And it kind of gave us a bit of extra time because you've got to register for the race. So you have to arrive and you have to be there. The others, as you'll hear with Cape Town, We literally just were straight in. So basically, Arizona was good. We arrived at the hotel. We were on the ASU campus in Tempe, like literally right next to the race registration. And I was beginning to feel a bit kind of, God, this one's going to be quite intense because it's going to be naturally way faster than the other ones. And, you know, there'll be an element of competitiveness to it because obviously there'll be people to race with.

1:33And it was so funny. We were at the race check-in and Chris Taylor, he was just like, oh, mate, now that I'm here, I really wish I was racing this as well. And I was like, oh, OK, well, cool. I'll see what I can do. And 10 minutes later, we'd signed him up. So that was perfect. um so I got I got I got Chris a full uh race pass and um we got him a wetsuit and all of a sudden it was the two of us doing it which didn't I have to say made a massive difference like just knowing firstly that he was doing it as well um lining up on the start line together the race itself is just faster it's like um it's uh you know i set my pb in the swim i did i did an hour 21 i'd never broken hour 30 before i don't think um just because you know literally you're chasing people um and there's a big vibe like in america they're they're wild for it they just love it you know i mean like we went to our race meeting and uh the bloke was just like all very nice by the way but it was it is quite funny like they do just chat to you like you're a five-year-old um when you say you do you mean you specifically or just british people no just i know that everyone everyone who's racing is sat in this field basically and this guy is like so you keep the the the buoys on your left and when you get to the red buoy you take you take you take a left and we're going counterclockwise for the swim what does that mean it means we're turning left it means we're going we're turning left and like we're all like do we need to be at this thing um and uh and it was kind of like there's like after the swim you come out onto land and then you pick you pick up you pick up your cycling bag and it's like where is your cycling bag you put it there so you should know it's like but yeah obviously we know it was a bit of an odd race meeting to be honest so um we did leave slightly early only because it was relatively um straightforward just a quick question on arizona um turning up the day before a massive ironman event that is essentially in the middle of the desert um is it easy to come by a wetsuit at the expo it is yeah okay fair enough just have this image of chris running around about to rob someone or something it's a good question though we we as you know really struggled to get our hands on the the record maverick x3 like it took a while for like there's a there was racks of them all over the place so i'm gonna just pick one up at the expo but uh yeah the food is just like as you might imagine it would be just like insanely awesome massive like i ate a breakfast burrito um and the chef came and congratulated me because she said that nobody finishes them though it was the size of my thigh i've never seen i've never seen anything anything like when it hit the table i was like she's like what it's just like this monster thing um and also you've got that thing where like you know how like when you're sometimes you fly long distance you just kind of keep eating all the meals they bring out on a plane or whatever like so you've got that plus you've done a triathlon so your eating ability must be just through the roof right now it's pretty it's pretty good but also that that's the um that is that is probably the main benefit of doing several full distance tries back to back to back there is really nothing you can't eat later.

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7:37We descended into hell in the run of that race pretty aggressively. because like and again this is this isn't a stab at ironman just obviously in the ones that we're doing ourselves we can kind of stop and chill and just take it a bit more easy we haven't we have a cut-off time of 18 hours when when you stack up seven of them in quick succession um you know hopefully the idea is we wouldn't get anywhere near that 18 hours but that's to account for injury weather um you know just stuff where you know races may be cancelled um you know so so it's to kind of give us time to think on our feet in real time if we you know if our support van has an accident or whatever and we have to help somebody get to hospital like you know that's all that's all in um baked into our 18 hours obviously you know an iron man typically doesn't take 18 hours but we need that buffer um chris and i did uh tempe uh the arizona one in in 12 51 which is pretty good but it does just mean that like you don't have any time to chill like you'll stop at an aid station not an aid station you'll stop at a fueling station and it's just like here's some electrolytes and here's a pringle and it's like okay well now that i've had my pringle and my electrolytes is kind of like I'm back on the road.

9:04So it was just fast. It's like, you know, as you might expect, you know, it's like the London Marathon or whatever. There's no real reason to just pull over on the side of the road and stop. You're racing. So it was a very different experience. Everything kind of hung in the balance for Cape Town because it was the fastest turnover that we're going to have. So the journey from door to door, from Arizona Hotel to Cape Town Hotel, was about 24 hours of just straight travel. We flew to Atlanta and then from Atlanta over to Cape Town. And it's about 24 hours. And then we would arrive here in Cape Town, which is where I am now, at about 10pm.

9:58If I didn't sleep on the flight, that was going to be really problematic. You know, like it was essential that we all got some rest on the flight. Slept for 11 hours on the flight, which was pretty awesome. and, you know, just got on the plane, boff, like, you know, like, passed out. I think I was asleep before the thing took off. But also I, um, I smelled like I had a shower that morning, but like, it was so intense. I've, you know, when like, I don't know if you've ever experienced this, but like, just, I don't know, like you play loads of sport and then kind of go for a meal or something and you kind of just get a bit caught off guard.

10:45like I've never smelt as bad as I smell on that flight I think I fell asleep with my hoodie on I woke up with it off so I think I fell asleep with the hoodie on sweated profusely like into this uh into this um tracksuit on this boiling hot flight um and then kind of got cold and took it or whatever but i was very smelly like like you know just that horrid like salty like i was finding it bad i was actually like what is that revolting smell like it's me it's me um so anyway long story short got to um well actually it's not short it's just a long story got to got to cape town um at about 10 and then we had to leave the hotel sorry spencer what time does your body even think it is at this point oh we are honestly um like times oh yeah so sorry so we also lose seven hours on the way from arizona to cape town so we're going the wrong way right we're going west to east so 24 hours of travel um actually turns into you know 31 hours of travel or whatever that is is that what yeah so it's more like it's more like 31 um my brain is not working uh it's it's more like 31 hours of travel um and we we essentially lose the rest day so we're doing a similar thing now going to Perth we leave this morning um but we land at midday not 10 p.m so we've got kind of all afternoon and all night uh before the race a bit different so not great still but a bit different Arizona was hard but it sounds like Cape Town has been by far the toughest so far so can you walk us through why was it so tough like walk us through it this is where it gets good by the way the cape town one is is is uh i will like i won't ever forget the arizona one but it was just like it's just a sheer length of these things right like setting off to like do a do do a workout essentially at six in the morning and finishing in the evening is mad right like it's not it's not it's not they're not normal distances like chris taylor and i were talking about this we've done loads of ultras and races and different stuff like i think i think an iron man a full Ironman is the toughest day, you know, the toughest single day event in sport, I think, right?

13:22I can't compare it to too much else that has, you know, this much of a big effect on your body. Like it's the three things combined that I think really sucks. Cape Town was a strange experience um also it's off it was my first open water like wild swim if you will like arizona was in a lake london was in the docks and like i i know right i'd like to think i'm a i'm a you know semi-intelligent person like i know that the chances of being eaten by a great white shark are slim it doesn't mean that it's not on your mind right so like it's all anyone has been saying to me about what about the sharks in Cape Town it's like I know that the last shark attack in this bay was 40 years ago or whatever I'm aware that the people who are putting me in this water are comfortable enough to do so without thinking it's risky but when I'm lying in bed the night before not sleeping and you're just wondering why we're going for a swim at dawn in cape town when the sun's not up and you're aware that sharks and other creatures feed at dawn and dusk particularly um i started googling stuff i started googling like you know worst times to be in it's oh don't swim at dawn and it's like you know don't swim at dusk that's when sharks feed and they can't see you properly so like they'll have a stab at you anyway just because you know they're using their sensors a bit more and it's like god so like it may not even want to eat me but it's going to eat me because it can't see me properly but then we had a fixer a guy who like is our driver and just helps us you know sort stuff on the ground here a local fixer called rob and he this is the worst thing that could have possibly happened to me right in the morning i was chatting to him about sharks and I was like you know is there any risk of of you know me being nibbled or you know worse bitten or eaten um and he goes oh no mate it's not it's not the uh it's not the wide sharks that you want to worry about and I was like oh you know um he goes there's uh there's a pack of of rabid seals uh at the moment and I was like rabbit as in rape they have rabies and he was He's like, yeah, yeah, they attacked my buddy two days ago.

15:57And I was just like, there's a pack of seals that attacked your friend two days ago and they got rabies. He was like, yep, yep. They're behaving pretty weird. So sometimes seals are friendly but these ones are not. So if you see any seals, just, you know, make sure that, you know, you try and keep your distance. and I was just like I couldn't actually tell if he was pulling my leg or not so I was just like whatever you know we'll just get there got to the beach it's pitch black um like pitch black freezing cold as well like step out onto the beach onto the sand I bought some Birkenstocks first timer um so I was wearing Birkenstocks yeah I know uh I was wearing Birkenstocks i took them off stepped out onto the sand and it's just like freezing cold do you know what i mean and like just dark dark dark and i look out to the sea and i'm like i really don't want to get in this thing like at all like genuinely it helped me with my psychopathy assessment a bit because like i i felt genuine fear like i was just like i don't want to be in that water for an hour and a half like i i feel like it's dangerous like a big black like pool of water just and i know there's wildlife in it we're in africa do you know i mean i was just like i just don't i don't like it like i just don't like the idea of it so like i'm having a minor moment in my head where i'm just like how do we push the swim until it's like you know light and we can't obviously and i was just like i'm really frightened like genuine i was just i'm actually like i feel frightened like i don't want to do it and don't mention it to anyone and i was just like you know whatever i'm sure that it's safe you know like it has to be safe like they wouldn't be they wouldn't be putting me in this position if it wasn't safe i dive in and it's like it's so cold it's nine degrees i'm not wearing gloves i'm not wearing boots and like the wetsuit's not really built for nine degrees either like nine nine degrees is just to give you an idea official ironman events uh the swim has been cut in half for the full distance in nine degree water to make it less dangerous for people um i found all of this out later because um well not that we would have right we would have to have done the full distance anyway but you know official iron man events wouldn't subject you to nine degrees um for a full distance swim 3.8 kilometers and i get in and it's cold it's like Like it's far colder than I thought it would be.

18:54I just, I'm pretty sure that I had Googled that it was 15 degrees, which is, by the way, still pretty cold. But it's like not that bad. You know, it's like 15 degrees is fine. You get away with it. Got in real sharp, real sharpness on the face. Like it almost feels like you're being thumped in the face. And like hands and feet bare. and I was like you know Jesus I'm this is gonna be grim swim out and I just have this like moment I'm looking down in the in the water and it's just dark like everything's dark and I have this like little semi kind of panic I'm just like I feel really exposed and really like in danger I just felt really in danger and uh and like the but there was a boat with me thankfully and uh and I kept coming up to like have a look around which I never do like the swim I'll just crack on and get it done and uh couldn't see anything and blah blah and then I start swimming and it's getting slightly lighter call it I've been swimming for like 45 minutes and I found a bit of a rhythm moving going across the bay and then back and um a seal arrives next to me right i've actually like i had what some could call like a minor meltdown like because of the rabies right like and obviously if if he hadn't told me about the rabies i would have loved this idea of swimming with the seal but it was kind of next to me and looking at me and then it would like dive down and come back up and look at me and swim up towards me and then veer off and I was like like you know just thinking this thing was gonna bite me and give me rabies um and then eventually like there were quite a few seals like they dove in off this rock and they were all coming in I was just like I'm swimming in freezing cold water in Africa surrounded by seals like one of them's got rabies everything's just going a bit bonkers and anyway it turns out they were really friendly keep swimming, keep swimming and then this is where things genuinely got dangerous it's not funny at all I had about 800 metres to a kilometre left to go and I lost sensation in my hands and feet really early in the swim like really early call it like a couple of hundred metres I couldn't do palms like I was I was dragging through the water like that because I couldn't grip my my fingers together and um so I'm swimming a bit slower than usual and then I begin to notice that like I can't feel my arms at all arms and then legs and like I'm trying to do the movements of what I think I should be doing but I'm kind of struggling with it and I've completely lost my speech so like I'm out of the boat and like they're saying like you're right you're right and I'm I'm going like, I couldn't speak properly.

22:00And then I start thinking like I'm going to drown because I couldn't feel like the water or anything. And I get this real tightness in my chest and like start hyperventilating. And I was just thinking like, this is potentially quite dangerous, you know, like I'm expecting to be pulled out by them. They're quite next to me. And Matt, the videographer, looked like really worried. and I just sat there for a sec and just kind of like, just took it in a bit and just started breathing like quite heavily and tried to control the breathing. And I knew that if I got pulled out, I'd have to do the whole thing again, which would just be like hell.

22:44Right. And I only had one kilometer left. So in my mind, I was just like, I have to swim this kilometer, just like, just get through it and then I'll get warm and anyway it just um found a bit of a rhythm again but it was that that's the closest I've come to having a I don't know like a panic attack or something I would say like it like it was it was pretty theory quite panicky um felt like a heart attack just a quick one and I guess that's something that maybe just for the listener like that they might not realize fully is that you know Arizona for example or London for example it's a city it's all even the swim is in this sort of confined space Arizona it's an arranged race there's like you say there's the fuel stations there's the ambulances everything you could possibly need and it's all very controlled actually most of the time you know you go somewhere like even though Cape Town's a big city but actually there is real danger in this there you are sort of doing this yourself and just sort of picking a place that you think is the right place that fits to swim and kind of going for it yeah and you know yes you've got a support team but like there are there's there is danger here like that like that wasn't you know great yesterday made me really question why i'm doing this like over and like over a number of different times it was kind of there are a number of moments yesterday where i was just like what am i doing like i don't need to be doing this like that was really dangerous like I'm lucky that I I'm not in hospital after that you know that that genuinely in the swim there was a time in the swim like around that time the the the kind of panicky bit towards the end where I literally thought what happens now like you know because I am I am you know heading straight to hospital or worse you know like they may not be able to warm me up and like you know it was kind of and also you know when you get these negative spirally thoughts it's pretty hard to get rid of them um i have some experience in having to bounce back you know to get through to the end of something um which i was really thankful for at the time because i think you know it could have been very easy to just lose your sense of reality and have a full meltdown there and and um you know it's very hard to understand what could have happens anyways it got in took about 35 minutes to warm up um stood under like a piping hot shower for a really long time we filmed all of this by the way it's quite um like when you see me trying to speak you'll understand what i mean i couldn't talk at all like i'd try and get words out you wouldn't have a clue what the words were type thing for like a while um so that was you know obviously you're happy and you're proud when you get out and i've done it you know and and even you can kind of tell as well like the local lads on the boat were surprised you know and that's not great you know like i got out and you know one of them was just like you know keep going mate that's uh that's that's squad you know and i was like what do you mean it's you know like like you know why was everyone just like like why is it that that you know so i think they knew as well that it was going to be a real rough thing that so got out handled it um and then on to the bikes mate and the bike was was um a very frustrating experience so the wind in cape town yesterday was so strong just like big gusty winds that cycling was just incredibly dangerous right like we didn't see a single other cyclist in Cape Town all day um there was a race event organizer that we had spoken to who had who called Chris and said just so you know like we would pull our event today if we had one right so like you know we wouldn't allow cyclists to cycle in a in a sanctioned event today um signposts were being ripped off um like the lampposts that they were on boarded up houses were like with like the wood that was on boarded up houses was being torn off it was like it wasn't a hurricane or anything it's just like really really strong wind uh roads were being closed so we i can't remember the name of the mountain but we cycled up for some reason we cycled up a mountain so we we cycled up a mountain what goes up must come down which is always nice so we got cycled down the mountain wasn't enjoyable though obviously because of the wind so on a bicycle and if you're a cyclist you'll know what i mean and any winds like any gust of wind from any direction really can feel quite problematic particularly if you're like relaxed in the saddle like if you're just like not really expecting it and you get a gust of wind from the side like it will knock your front wheel quite hard uh if you're not like prepared for it um and it flings people off bikes all the time you know like the odd bit of wind um so we had that to contend with we were literally like we'd be cycling and then you'd just be blown into the lane next to you like you'd just be like flung across the road and obviously if there was a truck coming the other way that could be a massive problem so we're cycling along like literally my hands still hurt we're like gripping like the handlebars and like locking your shoulders like doing your absolute best like not to let your wheel move but then your whole body gets pushed pushed around as well um and obviously there was a big headwind as well at times so about 120 to 130k of the 180k was into a headwind which again means that for your power output that you have to you have to do twice as much to move half as fast basically so like i looked down at my power meter at one point and i was doing like 280 watts which isn't like insane wattage but it's you know you're moving at 280 you know that's like you're getting places uh and i was doing 13 kilometers an hour which is like we would hope we would hope to be going at 30 kilometers an hour average so you're going less than half the pace you're supposed to be going at and also by the way i would hope to be going at 30 kilometers an hour doing 150 so like literally you're pushing twice as hard and not even going half the speed so you're just wasting energy and also you're just like it's it's so crap when you just like you know you're cycling cycling cycling you look down at your distance and you're just getting nowhere because the wind is just so strong then on the flip side you know you get 100k down the road and you turn around and for a brief period you know you're you're doing 50 without even spinning the pedals you know because you're just being taken by this thing which was nice but we didn't have much of that to be honest the last 30k of the day was like that, which was great because we had had enough.

29:51We were in the saddle for about 10 hours. So nine hours, 45 minutes. It's like, imagine just like next time you're on a bike or a line bike or whatever, any kind of bike, just get on it and go to whatever meeting you're going to. But imagine still being on it 10 hours later.

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31:52We shouldn't ever really be around the 18 hour mark. 18 hours is a very long shift. The average time when you're competing in an Ironman like Arizona is about 12 and a half hours for a man. I think it's safe to assume that everyone there is, you know, athletic and has trained. You don't get too many people. I don't think that just raw dog and Ironman and turn up, you know, unannounced type thing. So, you know, when you're looking around, you know, people are keen. Like the Arizona thing, people are keen. Like it's not like a UK vibe thing. like these lads have all the kit and like all and it's like very serious like full families turning up with banners and like very like it's very full on very nice as well like you know the vibe of it but like you know at the risk of sounding like a knob like some people will train for years to to do a full iron man and you know it's a real pinnacle moment for their you know athletic self i suppose i don't know like it's important it's really important to lots of people like it's really important like people breaking down crying at the end almost everyone crosses the finish line in arizona and like breaks down in tears and stuff um it's a big it's a big thing like it's actually it's a pretty big thing you know like you know you know it's a big thing when you when you're in it because it's really really fucking hard like honestly we're in cape town but like it's really beautiful and like there's loads of great stuff also i i i couldn't find my bib shirts uh that had the little the the short sleeves um so i wore a long sleeved bib shirt it was boiling hot yesterday um so i felt like i was just losing too much fluid you know in this black long sleeve top so i took it off but obviously didn't have any sun cream or anything i i am so burnt right like my back is i've managed to pick up some every sun a bit of after sun there uh but it's it's not great um i'm gonna need to keep that covered up in perth um then you know same old story you eventually get off this and i got we we started the run from the hotel so there was a plate of chicken thighs waiting for me lovely stuff and um chris said right we need to get back out there in 10 minutes and I was like okay um and he was like we have and we have five hours and 15 minutes from now to complete the marathon um or it's going to void the whole world record and we'll be outside the 18 hours now five hours and 15 um is um you know would I would consider a slow time for myself but after everything that we had just gone through it's actually like you look at it and you go god there's now like i'm now up against it's time wise too you know it's kind of like uh so i thought to myself i'm just going to try and blast like the first half like quite hard to just give myself like a buffer um so i went out and did the first half in like 1 55 or something and i was just then i had kind of three hours to do the next bit which was fine so i stopped and had a pepsi and all kinds of stuff and stretched a bit and just gave myself a bit of breathing space but it was um you know to do all that sport right and obviously i don't mean to keep explaining what these triathlons are but I mean I have bitten off an extraordinary amount here like I'm not looking forward to the next one at all um I don't like these moments of kind of pain are pretty frequent um it's it's a big 180 from the desert marathons because obviously that was that was almost like a spiritual like almost enlightening I like I loved it like I really took it in and this challenge I really wanted to design to to kind of break me to get me to a place where you know i may not be able to carry on yeah that that that is um i get there in every single race so you know this this this defines uh this this is very painful it's a very you know depreciate like we are depleted like i'm so depleted really depleted in quite a lot of pain um so there's big highs and lows but a friend of mine um described it quite well i'm like i i actually don't think unless you're a professional triathlete and even then i'd be surprised i don't think it's possible to go out and enjoy an iron man in the same way that you might enjoy a marathon so like i know that it's very possible to go and enjoy a marathon like you can run with your pals and have fun and you know just even even have a beer halfway through you know whatever like you can enjoy yourself have a good positive experience um I don't think it's possible to have a fully positive experience with an Ironman you really like the idea of that kind of like being tested digging in you know having the sort of pride after you get through it so I know that obviously in some way when you were planning this like you said you knew that was coming but did you think that feeling that real sort of grit feeling that you've sort of experienced already would come this soon in it has that surprised you at all or were you kind of ready for it um the this whole challenge has been quite surprising to me like like i i couldn't tell you what time it is i i i don't really know where i am like obviously i know i'm in cape town but like it makes no difference like like i could be anyway i could be in japan it's like like genuinely it's not it's it's a it's a really weird um challenge like we arrived in Cape Town the night before last and today we'll be in Perth and before we were in North America do you know I mean so we are like we've nearly done a lap of the world you know it's pretty it's kind of it's kind of cool but it's also um it's it's it's pretty painful so I was thinking with like 18k of the run left last night I was like oh when I finish this i'll be really proud i didn't feel anything when i finished it at all like i think i think i think that you know if i succeed and get to the end i probably will reflect on it and feel proud but i won't feel proud in the moment you don't feel anything in the moment you are like you're not well at all uh yeah at the end of at the end of the you might have a moment where like you cross the finish line and you know you put your hands in the air and take a nice picture and lie down but like you know i it's actually unclear where these things start and finish so i don't remember starting yesterday it was yesterday i don't i don't remember when i was halfway through the run yesterday i was trying to think about the day i'd had and i was just like i actually can't like i'm not sure kind of what's going on and like i get to these states i'm running and like you're running and you're going like i don't it's just there's noise i make i can't stop making it and like i like it and it's kind of like you're not you you run past people as well and they look at you and obviously they're unaware that you've been you know um in a session since 5 a.m and it's you know coming up on 10 p.m and you just look like broken and people are like when I had my Pepsi we'd not sat down at all for the whole run and there was about 12k left or something like that like after because I had it about halfway between in the second half of the run basically once I got hit halfway and started kind of taking small breaks I had that Pepsi that I told you about and I was like oh gosh should we sit down for a sec and she was like you can't sit down like you're in the middle of a run and I was like yeah uh i was like we've been i've been at it since five and she just like laughs thinking i'm taking the piss obviously all thinking 5 p.m which would only be five hours um you know i'm talking about 5 a.m um but yeah anyway i think i think i'll be i'll be delighted when this is over

41:00well that's good um what's like the um with the run yesterday am i right that you were just kind of doing laps of like the sort of promenade yeah is that harder to do that almost like sort of track style just hammer the laps or is it better to like do more of a marathon like what what's that like that difference does that make it tougher i think typically speaking if you're going away from something and coming back to it that's quite nice so a lot but so yeah laps laps aren't the greatest thing in the world it kind of depends i love the track i do love the track it depends what you're doing though i think if you're you know if you're looking to set a fast 10k time the track is is is great because you're you know you're just dialed into the track um and i enjoy the track obviously for a marathon it's a long time to be on the track um you know know when i did my 24-hour run i'd run four marathons that day around a track and you know it gets it gets old um but you know for these it's kind of it's nice to uh yeah in an ideal world you'd run uh you know 21k one direction and 21k back you know because then you've got that whole getting over halfway and everything's downhill from here feeling um whereas with laps it's sort of um i mean just just in passing the promenade is is massive so like you know which which kind which was sort of helpful it was it's only like i think it might have been like four full laps that we did so it's not it's not that bad you know it's pretty um it was all right let's let's quickly talk about perth then so you're flying in the next half an hour or so what's uh so what's it's not too bad travel wise but then what's uh what's it like when you land what you're looking forward to what you're scared of it's a direct flight 15 hours something i hope to sleep for 12 hours you know my signature move uh on the on these flights um that'd be great actually like a really big like leary sleep on that flight would be fantastic so let's hope for the best um i've not asked a single question about perth i've not focused on it at all um i will worry about it when i get there um i i i'm kind of i i know that the water is going to be like 20 degrees or 21 degrees belta um so that'd be nice not feeling like having a you know hypothermic cardiac arrest is going to be really lovely i'm looking forward to it as ever i absolutely love australians and australia um so can't wait to be there i literally can't believe that we've been to america and africa uh in the last three days in fact hang on i started a timer at the very start of this project seven started seven days and one hour ago yes it did which is a bit annoying because had we done this at the beginning of the podcast it would have said six days something so maybe we'll just say six days yeah that's good isn't it so i got into the water in london seven days one hour and 21 minutes ago god that's crazy that time it's mad what you've done even in that time so what you're nearly halfway you suppose you're i know seven so there's not an official halfway but you're pretty much there now yeah i know but antarctica chuck's a bit of a wild demon in the mix it's everything takes longer and it takes a couple of days to get there and we're there for a couple of days before we do anything like so there's a bit of a there's a bit of a break it's a bit it is annoying though because i thought that as well i looked down and i was like hang on a sec if i've banged out three and six why can't we do the whole lot in you know 13 what's this 21 number i'm gonna have a chat to chris actually about that uh right now at breakfast yeah well don't well don't because i i was sort of hoping we'd get at least another two weeks of podcast out of this so uh don't quicken it up too much all right guys well thanks so much for checking in um sorry if i feel a bit flat uh but looking forward to seeing you when i get back yeah mate good luck and um yeah thanks for checking in again i will speak to you on speech on monday post perth yeah lots of love brother don't forget to subscribe and follow the show wherever you're listening and head over to our youtube as well if you want to keep up to date with everything Spencer is up to during his Project 7 world record challenge.

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