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18 Aug 2025 · 46m · 19 chapters

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Tommy Fury: The Darkest Year of My Life, Jake Paul Fight, & My Comeback

In short

Tommy Fury discusses his documentary about reclaiming his life after his “darkest year” in 2024, his rivalry with Jake Paul (and the Jake Paul fight outcome), and how he’s planning his comeback and future beyond boxing.

Guest backgrounds

Tommy Fury is a British boxer from the Fury family; his half-brother is two-time heavyweight world champion Tyson Fury, and his father John Fury is a longtime trainer/fighter. He also appeared on Love Island at age 19 (around lockdown), which he says massively changed his public identity. Spencer Matthews hosts.

Key claims

Tommy says he’s “110% or nothing,” let cameras into his lowest and highest moments, and credits training and accountability for turning his alcohol troubles around. He claims he outclassed Jake Paul, won decisively, and says losing would have ended his boxing career. He says boxing is now driven by “bums on seats,” and that alcohol is no longer central to his life.

Notable examples

training hardship (two buses and a 3–4 hour walk home), being ringside for Tyson Fury vs Klitschko, and his 2024 rock-bottom (waking up alone, surgery after the KSI fight, then cutting alcohol). He plans to transition into bodybuilding (possibly documenting “boxer to bodybuilder”) and wants acting too.

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Chapters

0:30

The Real Tommy Fury

Tommy discusses the public perception of him and the motivation behind his documentary.

“Someone in your position, the notoriety is so vast that the majority of people only really see what is printed and what is shared online.”
1:24

Growing Up as a Fury

Tommy shares his unique upbringing and the expectations placed on him as Tyson Fury's brother.

“How do you decide what elements of yourself to give?”
2:10

The Hard Path to Boxing

Tommy recounts his challenging journey and sacrifices made to pursue boxing seriously.

“that I've had everything easy in the boxing world and I've had everything give to me because of Tyson and the position that he's in.”
5:02

Defining Success

Tommy discusses his vision of success and what it means to him personally.

“It was hard training and it was really grounding, but I just didn't take no for an answer.”
8:28

Pressure and Expectations in Boxing

Tommy reflects on the pressure of being Tyson Fury's brother and expectations in fights.

“You know, that is my dream of having been a kid.”
10:31

The State of Boxing and Jake Paul

Tommy shares his views on the changing dynamics of boxing, including influencers like Jake Paul.

“You know, if you can't handle the pressure, get out the game.”
14:01

Facing the Pressure Before the Fight

Tommy discusses the immense pressure he felt before his fight with Jake Paul.

“everything to do with that show was his I basically had no say yeah was I worried about it going to points?”
16:01

Overcoming Personal Struggles

Tommy shares his darkest year dealing with alcohol and personal issues.

“And like I said before, I said fight them.”
18:09

The Role of Training in Recovery

He explains how training helped him cope and regain his strength.

“going to that gym for two, three hours, you know, a time in the day, I used to come out of the gym feeling immense like Superman.”
21:51

Identity and Change

Tommy reflects on his transformation and the importance of personal growth.

“If I look back at my former self, we physically don't look the same.”
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24:55

Life After Recovery

He shares his current state and how he feels about himself today.

“and shifts in identity, which I also think is quite a poignant thought that people can change.”
29:12

The Role of Family in Recovery

Tommy discusses how his family supported his journey to a healthier life.

“They all pulled me out of it and they all made sure I was okay every minute of the day, always checking up on me and, you know, I owe everything to them.”
33:20

Future Aspirations: Bodybuilding and Acting

Tommy shares his plans for bodybuilding and potential acting career after boxing.

“What does the future hold for you outside of boxing?”
36:22

Reflections on Fame and Love Island

Tommy reflects on his unexpected rise to fame after Love Island and its impact.

“Well, I think it's well worth a try, isn't it?”
42:00

Tommy Fury's Rise to Fame

Learn about Tommy Fury's unexpected journey to fame post-Love Island.

“there was like a bit of public there and everybody knew our names and it was like what's going on?”
44:10

Identity and Personal Growth

Explore the shifts in Tommy Fury's identity and ambitions beyond boxing.

“So I feel like there's been some real shifts in who you are and who you're going to become.”
46:04

Embracing Life's Challenges

Understand how overcoming struggles shapes personal development and resilience.

“Like I love my life and I'm grateful every single day.”
47:34

Untapping Potential

Tommy Fury shares key advice on pursuing dreams without limits.

“And it's honestly, it's refreshingly nice to see you having come out of that turbulent time.”
49:28

Embracing Life's Challenges

Understand how overcoming struggles shapes personal development and resilience.

“My tree has tons of five-star reviews telling me how sturdy it is.”
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0:00I'm Spencer Matthews and you're listening to Untapped, where incredible athletes and inspirational people show us how we can all untap the potential within us. Today, I sit down with Tommy Fury to discuss his new documentary charting his journey to get his life back on track and finding new purpose, his rivalry with Jake Paul and his surprising plans for when his boxing career is over. Please do follow or subscribe to the show wherever you're listening so you don't miss new episodes. We have truly incredible guests every single week, and you wouldn't want to miss one. Let's get Untapped with Tommy Fury.

0:33Tell me who the real Tommy Fury is. Someone in your position, the notoriety is so vast that the majority of people only really see what is printed and what is shared online. To put it in a nutshell, I mean, this is the reason why I've made the documentary, the reason why I decided to do it. through what you've just said. You know, people only see me in the ring fighting or whatever you see on social media, i.e. Instagram, you know, TikTok, whatever videos are out there. But people don't know the real me. Everyone just knows me as being on Instagram, being the family man, and being the fighter.

1:10But I'm, you know, I've shared my whole life behind closed doors for a long time now. And I can't wait to see it on the big screen. And I can't wait to see, you know, the reaction to it. And I'm just excited to show everybody who the real me is. How do you decide what elements of yourself to give? Do you know what it is? When making this documentary, I thought, if I'm going to do it, I'm going to give it 110 % because that is who I am in all aspects of my life. I can't do anything 50%. You know, I can't do anything half-heartedly. It's either 110 % or nothing. And when making the documentary, I said, you know what, if I'm going to let the cameras in, I'm going to let him in.

1:48You're going to see me at my lowest. You're going to see me at my highest and everything in between. What's it like being a Fury? So, you know, you've grown up obviously with a world famous two-time heavyweight world champion half-brother in Tyson Fury. Your father, John Fury, was a famous fighter. Was there always an expectation on you to be a fighter? My story is unique because everybody would assume that I've had everything easy in the boxing world and I've had everything give to me because of Tyson and the position that he's in. But it couldn't be any further from the truth. I know I've wrote a book and that's in there.

2:24The documentary, everything covers it. You know, I've gone through my hardships and I truly believe I put in that much work when I was a kid. I sacrificed everything. Didn't have a plan B. I loaded all my eggs in one basket to be the man I am today and to have the things I have today. Take me through your childhood a bit if you don't mind. Childhood was the most normal childhood that you could ever imagine. Normal house, normal area, normal school, normal friends, riding a BMX up and down with a pop tyre mostly. And yeah, boxing, where do I start? It's all the way from hitting my dad's hands as a little kid.

3:02My dad used to sit down on the settee and I used to be stood up and he used to hit his hands all the time. As I got older, we started doing bits of pads and it was just something that always ran in the family. I used to see my dad go out jogging and I wanted to go running with him. And it was a lot of looking at first. It was a lot of me in the house. I'd be hearing my dad bang away on the bag of a night time and I always used to wonder what he was doing. And then one night I ventured in there to see him pounding away on the bag and then it started off as me timing him and just watching him. And all of a sudden, you know, I was going out on runs with him and I was hitting the bag and then we was training.

3:38And it started from there. and it was some boxing is something I always did it always ran in the family I was always around it I tried many other sports um athletics rugby rugby was a big one for me and that's what I thought I was going to be growing up but boxing just took over like my dad says what's in you will come out of you fighting's in me and it's come out of me that's what I do now for a living you know there were tough times as a teenager starting out I used to have get I used to have to get two buses to the gym. I used to go out all day and all night to train for an hour. So at one particular point in my life, I was training at a gym in Mustard and Collier.

4:15I had to catch two buses and walk at least three miles to that gym. And I would leave at five, six o 'clock in the morning. And it would take me all morning. Training used to be at 10 o 'clock. It would take me from that time in the morning all the way till the session. And sometimes might even be late for the session. used to get there like 10 quarter past, maybe half 10. I used to do all that, train for an hour, and then used to do that all the way home. So I remember, it's like I had a full-time job, but I was only actually working for an hour. And the rest of it was just trying to get there.

4:46And then once I'd trained, and I achieved the goal of getting to the gym, I had a great session, trained really hard. But then it was everything to try and get home. And I had to do that all over again, hours and hours of waiting for a bus. It's just one big cycle. That was just one big headache. What was so special about this gym? Nothing. Believe me, it was a hard knocks gym. We had hard sparring in there. It was hard training and it was really grounding, but I just didn't take no for an answer. I knew what I wanted to do and I knew what I had to do to go and get it. And everything that I've gone through and everything I've done, it's all in order to get that.

5:24You know, I've put so much into this, you know, since being from a kid, you know, there was nothing else down for me. I said, I'm either going to succeed at this or I'm going to spend the rest of my life doing something I don't want to do. And life's too short not to chase your dreams. And I thought, do you know what? Fuck it. I don't give a fuck. I'm going after it a million miles ahead, you know, zero to a hundred. And that's exactly what I did. Didn't take no for an answer. If I couldn't get there by bus or by train or whatever, I used to walk. I remember walking home from the gym. It took me like three hours one day, four hours to walk home from the gym.

5:57Like run a little bit, walk a little bit with a big gym bag on my back. Like it took me all day to get back from the gym. But every time I used to get home and lay in bed, I used to think, wow, that was really tough. That was really tough. In all weather conditions, it might've been snowing one day, pissing down the rain near the hailstone. But I used to lay on the bed and I used to get back and it used to be tea time and then straight to bed to do it all again for no money. I was earning no money. So I had to most of the time lie and, you know, beg my way onto the bus or to the tram or wherever I was going, just to get there and train for nothing.

6:33Just a vision. Did you ever feel like you were doing it for someone else? No, I was doing it for me. What does success look like for you? So what is your dream?

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8:27Success for me looks like being a world champion. You know, that is my dream of having been a kid. I'm 26 years old. I've been at them high-pressure fights. I've come through them, regardless of who they are. It's still been a massive event, tons of pressure, and I know I don't crack under pressure. I have all the time on my side, everybody in my corner, Tyson, my dad, the full team around me to achieve that goal. But have I achieved success already? Yes, I'm a father. I think I'm a great father at that. I'm doing right by my child. I'm doing right by my partner now. And I'm doing well in life.

9:03I'm doing exactly what I wanted to do since being that 10-year-old. I wanted the house. I wanted the cars. I wanted the money in the bank. That's all achieved now. And I can honestly say that, and most people call me lucky and in the right place at the right time, but I wasn't in the right place at the right time when I was waiting for that bus in the freezing cold. I wasn't in the right place at the right time when I was getting my head punched and off-season men in the gym or sitting in A &E one night because my jaw was killing me. Like, I wasn't so lucky then, but I didn't stop at them hurdles.

9:32Every hurdle that I've come up against, I've run through it. I've run over it. And that's the reason why I am now because I don't take no from an answer. Did you find when you would make all this effort to get to this gym, the hard-hitting gym, that you had a bit of a target on your back because of the family that you come from? I had a huge target on my back because I remember nobody cares about someone's first amateur fight, you know, a kid. But with me, it was like I was walking into a world title fight, my first ever amateur fight. I remember it was at the Mahaldo Centre in Oldham and I fought a local kid, same age, same weight as me.

10:08Never fought before. But then there was a different buzz when I was fighting because everyone was saying, oh, it's just Tyson's brother. Oh, he's meant to be good. He's this and that. And it's like they see you warming up. You know, you look out the curtain, there's like a massive crowd there. It's like, for fuck's sake. Like the name brings so much pressure. So it's like you feel like you have to perform. And every fight I've ever had, every sparring session I've ever had, there's always been pressure on that. So you learn to live with it. You know, if you can't handle the pressure, get out the game.

10:34But when you grow up with that pressure, it just feels like normal. The game's changed a lot recently, hasn't it? With the way fights are hyped and, you know, influential people from outside of the sport coming in. Do you see Jake Paul, etc. as a hindrance to the sport? Or do you think the way everything has gone has been beneficial to boxing? I think they're bringing new eyes to the sport. I do think they're doing that. I feel a bit sorry for the fighters that have put the life and soul into boxing and haven't really got anything out of it. And Jake Paul's come along and these other guys have come along who's just got a big follower on YouTube and then they've come into boxing and kind of just got these opportunities because they've got a massive platform and a bit of money in the bank.

11:25And you've got kids who's been doing it from four years old who've devoted their life to it. You will never see them opportunities. but I think what people's got to understand boxing is a business and that's the way it is it used to be about how good you can fight but it's not that way anymore you can fight like Muhammad Ali but if you can't sell one ticket unfortunately I'm not saying I like it that way but unfortunately you ain't going to get the break boxing now is about bums on seats if you can sell out Wembley Arena but you fight like an old man and you're absolutely shit if you keep filling up Wembley Arena you're going to be champion because that's just how this thing works.

12:03Boxing is a business and it's only going to get worse. We'll come back to that in a sec, but I just thought, where were you when your brother beat Klitschko? I was ringside for that fight. Were you? Yeah. I remember it. It's just the most incredible thing. Yeah, it was crazy. I remember like it was yesterday, I was 17 years old, I think. And yeah, I was ringside for that. And, you know, that was the fight. And the only people that believed he was going to win was his own family and the people on his team. Everybody else was saying, oh, Klitschko, he's undefeated for 12 years, he's never going to win.

12:34But there's only us that knew he'd do it. And when he actually did do it and he got it on the scorecard, because he won easily, you know, he won every round. It was just like, that was everything. You know, Tyson's the reason why our name's up in lights and he always will be. He's the superstar of the family. He's opened all the doors. And, you know, that moment for me, regardless of what he's done in his career, prior to that, that Klitschko moment will always be the defining moment. When you fought Jake, did you see that as a lose-lose situation? Because obviously, you're the boxer. You're in many ways defending the sport.

13:15Your face is across it. It's on you to beat this guy and probably beat him well, right? Yeah, yeah. So, you know, how did that feel? Was there added pressure on that? I mean, I'm sure you felt confident regardless because you seemed like a very confident person. But how did it feel stepping into that ring with him knowing that so many millions of people were almost expecting you to win? I think it was one of them things, you know, it was a lose-lose because he lost. He lost fair and square. I felt like I beat him easy I outclassed him and just put him on the end of the jab all night and he couldn't get anywhere near me and you can see that by watching the fight he picked the judges the referee everything to do with that show was his I basically had no say yeah was I worried about it going to points?

14:06100 % I thought if it goes to points probably not going to get it and it's going to be disastrous but I didn't think like that I said you are not a better fighter than me there's no way and if I can't beat you decisively on points. You know, if I can't make this like a mismatch, then that's on me. But I'm thankful I did. And I got the decision. But going into that, I was as confident as ever because I knew he just wasn't a better fighter than me. But the funny thing about that was, before that fight, and I had fights, everyone was calling me, Love Island kid, he's not a boxer, he's not a true boxer.

14:41But then all of a sudden, when you want me to go and beat this guy and save boxing, that's how it was labeled back then, then all of a sudden I'm the boxer. Then all of a sudden I'm the professional and I've been doing it all my life and I'm a proper fighter. So yeah, I did feel like I had the weight of the world on my shoulders. I mean, even that was like a dream for me. Like to get in the ring, I was on the ring apron entering the ring and like you look up. Cristiano Ronaldo was there with his son. Mike Tyson was ringside. Manny Pacquiao, you know, Tyson was there. All these massive, massive, massive names were there.

15:13I thought this isn't real right now. And the amount of pressure that I had on my shoulders was untrue. And I think that was one of the most high-pressure situations any athlete could be in. Because my full career was on the line. Because if I'd have lost that fight against Jake Paul, there is no way I'd have been able to lace up gloves ever again. I've done this all my life and I'm the boxer and I come from this royal family of boxing. There's no way I could have lost that. So I had to get the victory and I went out there and did it. And I did it good. And next time we fight, I'll knock him out this time.

15:44And there'll be no question about it. you're having a rematch? Maybe in the future. We'll see. Like I said, I've always said this before. I won't scream and cry for a fight. I'm the one with the win. He's the one with the loss. If he wants to try and avenge it, he knows where I am. But until then, I'm happy doing my thing. I've got the win over both of them idiots. And like I said before, I said fight them. I said fight them. I'd beat them both inside 12 months. I did that and I said that I would only fight the big names. And I've done that. So as far as I'm concerned, my job there is done. I will get on my horse now and I'll learn to be a better fighter.

16:18I have my comeback fight for a proper fella, proper legitimate professional, got the win over him and it's on to being a better fighter. And if them fights arise again, then so be it. He's getting better, right? He's getting better, but fighting 60-year-old men ain't going to get him any better. He needs fights like he had against me. He needs proper tests. You know, I know boxing. You're not going to learn anything from fighting a 60-year-old man. It may be Mike Tyson, but it wasn't Mike Tyson. We all know that. We've all seen the fight. So at the end of the day, he's doing his thing and I'm doing mine.

16:49You said that last year was one of the more difficult years you've experienced. How are things now for you? And how have you bounced back? Listen, there's no mistake. 2024 was the worst year of my life. Went through, you know, troubles with alcohol. Obviously, family, private life. It all went rock bottom. it was the hardest year to bounce back from but you know you only really know there's a problem when you wake up one day and there's no one around and it's just quiet you know and that was really a turning point for me and I was like shit really got to get it together now and nobody's going to give it to me kind of snap my fingers and everything be alright again and it kind of brought me back to the thought that I had when you know I was younger doing all this up and down to the gym I thought nobody's going to give it to me and had the same thought when everything was at rock bottom and everything was fucked.

17:46I thought, okay, well, nobody's going to get anything back for me. It's time to get up now. I've done what I've done. I've drank. I drank the drink. I chose to do that. I chose to keep doing that. And that's on me. So, you know, now it's on me to get everything back. And it all starts here. And for me, the road to getting all that back was training. Training was the thing that helped pull me through because no matter how bad everything was around me at that time, going to that gym for two, three hours, you know, a time in the day, I used to come out of the gym feeling immense like Superman. Just come out of the gym, big sweat on, protein shake, cold shower, and all my problems would just wind away.

18:27I thought, do you know what? I'm just going to keep doing this two, three times a day, driving myself to the well. This is how I'm going to get through it. And then one day turns into two days, turns into three days, and all of a sudden, you're four weeks into training like a madman. Everything seems to be on the rise because you're feeling good. And for me, a healthy body is a healthy mind. If you look in the mirror and you're happy with yourself, that makes me have a great day. It's like now, I've been able to overcome adversity. I've been able to go through that. Been at my lowest of lows. And now I'm back at my highest of highs.

18:58And that's all through here. It all starts in the mind. And nothing and no one can get something done for you. You have to do it yourself. I think it's an excellent point you know consistency and accountability are incredibly powerful tools to progress yeah what is your relationship like with alcohol now it took a turn for you when you injured yourself you had to get surgery on your hands yeah I had to get surgery on my hand after the KSI fight and in 2024 right at the start that's when I had the surgery done and yeah Being told that you can't do something that you've been doing from being a child, you know, 12 to 18 months, you're out of action.

19:41Forget about it. It's kind of a hard thing to do, and you try and do stuff around it. You know, I tried the whole training with one arm thing and doing all this and doing all that, but as I said before, I'm a 100 % or nothing guy. And you find yourself not doing a lot. I couldn't even wash myself properly in the shower because I'd been cast on. When the cast came off, couldn't move my hand past that. And all of a sudden, you're sat down and you think, what can I do now? one, feel pretty good. Can do that. Turns into two. And then you feel pretty good. You forget about the hand. You forget about everything that you've been told.

20:14That there's no fights and no boxing for 18 months. It's like, oh, forget about it. It's all right. I feel good. Then that turns into an everyday occurrence. Like you start wanting that feeling more and more. And that's the only thing I could do. That's the only thing I wanted to do. And I wanted to do a lot of it. And that drove me to, obviously, problems in my private life. It drove me to everything. and you really do hit the ground, but I've got no one else to blame. And once you accept accountability, like you said, for it, that's when you can move past it. And I got so far into it when everything was gone and I was waking up in a house by myself and I could hear my own echoes.

20:50I thought, right, yeah, this is a problem. This is a really big problem. And then that was the journey of me turning it all around and trading was at the forefront of my mind every single day. And then that just bred positive thoughts, and positive actions, cut the drink out. And my relationship now with alcohol, it couldn't be further from my mind. I'm so different to the person that I was. It's like making this documentary and watching them tough times back. I don't even recognize the guy that I was. That's like looking at a totally different person. Whereas now, like I say, if it's an occasion or whatever, I'm able to be normal with a drink, have a couple of drinks and that's it.

21:26I'm able to do that now. Whereas in the past, it'd be I'd be drinking all week. I think once you develop a mature relationship with this kind of stuff, it sticks with you. You know, I was smiling then because when you were speaking, there's just so much symmetry with my journey with this stuff. You know, I know exactly what you're talking about. If I look back at my former self, we physically don't look the same. Like I was saying to somebody the other day that if I walked past myself 10 years ago in the street, I don't think I'd even stop to think that the bloke looked like me. You know, like we're not even, we don't, we're physically different, appearance different, everything different.

22:14Like your moral compass is different, your drive is different, everything is different. And it's unbelievable to think that what could be just a small change in somebody's life. You know, I came from a very problematic space with alcohol. But, you know, some people who don't abuse alcohol, who then just quit, their life changes as well. You know, it's a really interesting point to somebody like me to hear you so eloquently explain the change. you know, sustained abstinence, plus, you know, a clear mind, training, pushing yourself, consistently performing at a higher level, looking at yourself, feeling proud of yourself instead of ashamed, you know, waking up surrounded by the people you love.

23:06Big difference in your life. Big difference. And you start living then. I feel like, you know, when you drink, it's like, it's just, you know, you wake up, everything's foggy, you know, it's horrible. you know especially being an athlete it's like that's not me you know I used to I look I look at them I look at them old clips and it's like my face is so fat like didn't really care about my appearance everything was sloppy and it's like that's just not me since being a kid I've always been to the gym I've always kept myself in shape I've always took pride in my appearance and I've always wanted to be the best version of me but then through that year I just didn't care what version of me was there and it was obviously the worst version of me so now to look back at that yeah like you say if I'd have walked past him in the street I would have never known that guy and I don't want to know that guy ever again you know but listen I said this before in a previous interview it's like I'm not happy about what I went through but I feel like I'm happy in the lessons that I learned about myself and what I can go through and who I really am because it's at them moments when you hit rock bottom and everything's gone and your world's caving and And it's like, that's when you really find out who you are.

24:13And for me, at such a young age, and not just going through this privately, because a lot of people go through this on their own, but I went through this on a worldwide scale. Everybody knew what I was doing, looking at me in depth through a microscope. When it all happened, it was all over the news, it was bulletins, it was everywhere. And it was like, to come through that and deal with that, that's like an amazing life experience for me. and I didn't think I'd ever be able to go through anything like that and come through it. So the fact now that I'm sitting and talking about it so openly, that's a big deal for me because I never thought I'd be able to do that.

24:50It's a fight in itself. Yeah. And, you know, I think your documentary revolves a lot around identity and shifts in identity, which I also think is quite a poignant thought that people can change. Yeah. Like that is the truth. And, you know, a lot of people say people can't change, a leopard can't change its spots. I personally think that that is complete rubbish. I know that people can change. And, you know, sustained periods of behaving like the person that you want to be results in becoming that person eventually. You know, and I think that when I occasionally get asked for advice on how to change your life around, you know, if you find ways of cutting out the negative, poisonous, bad behavior, and you stick with a new way of existing and a new way of being for a sustained period of time, that becomes the reality.

25:52And all of this fear of missing things is just crazy talk, as far as I'm concerned. You're not missing anything by being overly social, drunk. I very much agree with your take on things. How is your life now? And when you look in the mirror, do you see what you want to see? Yeah, definitely. I mean, life now is exactly where I want it to be. My private life is now my private life, which I'm so happy about. Because it's not been that since I've been 19. I've not had a private life. Nothing's ever been private. So I'm happy about that. When I look in the mirror, I see me. I see that kid who takes care of himself, who trains hard.

26:33I see the athlete I see the guy that I want to be you know all my ambitions are there right where I see him right in the mirror I look at myself and I'm happy with myself and I go out and have a great day you know I'm in a routine now where I'm fit and I'm healthy and I'm on top of my game and there's nothing that I can't conquer

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29:12what role have your family played in you discovering this new positive healthier version of yourself a massive role you know family is everything to me and my family's been right there with me every step of the way um i owe everything to my family because i think it's i think when you're coming out of a place like that it's very important to have the right people around you and family and close friends and what I consider family too, you know, even my close friends and my family. They all pulled me out of it and they all made sure I was okay every minute of the day, always checking up on me and, you know, I owe everything to them.

29:49When's your next fight? Next fight, like I say, I'm in good shape now. You know, I probably need six weeks and I'll be ready to go. That's sort of what I'm doing now, whereas in the past I never did that. You know, it's mad to say that in the past. I never used to train all year round. I used to get a call for a fight and then I used to train. So I'd spend the rest of the year eating, doing whatever I want, you know, not in the boxing gym, not doing nothing. I'd only used to train when I had a fight coming up, whereas now, I'm in the gym all year round. I keep myself in condition where if the phone goes, I need six weeks.

30:19Easier when sober as well. I haven't asked, are you sober or do you drink occasionally? Like I say, drinking is the furthest thing away from my mind right now. But my relationship with alcohol, you know, if I'm at a wedding or something like that, I'll have a couple of drinks, I'll have a few drinks or whatever. But the biggest thing for me now is I'm able to be normal with it. Back in the past, in that year, I'd be drinking at a wedding and I'd have to be scraped off the floor. Blackout drunk. Like not remembering anything stupidly drunk. Whereas now, I can have a few drinks, I can have a laugh and go home to bed.

30:53And that's the biggest thing about it. But for me, drinking is not on my mind. It's not something that I'm concerned with now. All that I'm concerned with is being the best version of myself, doing my boxing, winning my fights, keep winning, being the best partner I can be, being the best father I can be, and keep being who I am. For you who said earlier that your dream is to become world champion, what does the path to that look like? How careful do you need to be with who you're fighting? What is the selection process like? Because for you, being a Fury and being incredibly famous in that world at this stage, the risk is with you.

31:37So how is that managed? Who does that for you? How do you choose your fights? So my dad is the person to speak to about that. As far as I'm concerned, I owe everything to my dad. I wouldn't have what I have right now if it wasn't for him. And like I said, when my dad stops training me or he's able to not train me anymore, I'll never box again. you know my journey and my boxing career is with my dad and my dad only the day that that stops is the day that i stop um but yeah he's picked out every single fight i've ever had he's watched the opponent he's okayed it he's given me the right game plan for the opponents he trains me puts his life and soul into it and he's never took a penny not a penny and he devotes his time is he's everything into a training camp he really gives it as all he pushes us to the well every single time and he makes sure we're fit enough to be in that fight.

32:29But regarding who I fight and the pathway for me, my dad sorts all that out. And whoever he says to fight, I jump in the ring and fight. That's a good position to be in. Yeah, I mean, the way I look at it is, my dad knows what I can do and he knows what I'm capable of. And if he says to fight this guy, it's like I know he knows I'm capable of beating him. You know, and yeah, of course he's going to test me here and there and whatever, and it's my job to pull through. But I know my dad's picking these fights because my dad's not with me for money. Like I said, he's never took a pound. I've offered him loads, but he won't take anything.

33:03He just does it for the pure joy of seeing us do well and succeed. And that's a father right there. So at the end of the day, I'm not worried about anything. I know he's going to give me the right fights. And like I said, he knows what I can do. He knows my ability and he knows what I can't do. So whoever he says to fight, I'll be in there. What does the future hold for you outside of boxing? The future outside boxing? Well, I've been speaking about this a bit more. I think once my boxing is wrapped up and I'm no longer boxing and done finished, I'm going to go into bodybuilding. You know, I'd really like to give that my all because anybody that knows me, my passion and love for bodybuilding is probably just as big as boxing.

33:41And it's just definitely something that I intend doing. You know, after boxing, I had pictures of Arnold in my room, on the wall and everything like that. I follow bodybuilding just as much as the boxing. And yeah, when I'm all done, you can definitely see me on that stage. So competing? Yeah, definitely. I want to give it, like I say, I'm 110 % or nothing. So when I get into the bodybuilding, I'm not just going to be a little physique model or whatever. I'm going 300 pounds, 250 pounds. I want to be as big as I can get. Wow, that's great. This is it. And do you know what it is? I want to document the full thing because I don't think it's ever been done before.

34:17My passion for it, I love the eating, I love the training, I love the cardio, whatever it is to do with it. And I'm going to document the full thing, boxer to bodybuilder. and we're going to see. I'm going to give it my all because I think I've got, I trained with Dorian Yates quite recently in Marbella and, you know, I've got the perfect frame for it. I've got the wide shoulders, the small waist, but I've never been able to pursue it because of the boxing because you can't bodybuild and box at the same time because this doesn't work. So I really want to see. Eddie Hall. Yeah, well, yeah, that is a case.

34:46Yeah, I mean, I don't think I'm quite as big as Eddie Hall. No. But I just want to see where I can take it. I think if you put 36 kilos on of mostly muscle, that would be a sight to behold. Oh yeah, I'm going to do it. I'm really going to do it. Like, this is what's on the cards for me. Like, obviously, I'm boxing now and bodybuilding is not even really in my mind. By the way, this is the funniest thing. I just, I couldn't have imagined. Like, genuinely, I couldn't imagine. No, no, no. I can imagine you being a bodybuilder. I just had no idea that that was like a dream. But this is what I say.

35:19I say, this is what everyone's going to see in the documentary. It's like, nobody probably knows this, but now they do. And you're going to find out more things like this and so much more in the doc. Are there any other gems that you can share with things that you're competing in or want to do? I'd say just bodybuilding for now. And I'll pursue that and take that as far as I can take it and see what happens. And I'd love to get into acting. I think they're my only three things. Boxing, bodybuilding, acting. Anything else, it's not really for me. I'm not really interested in anything else. So I've got a few different paths where to go, but I'm enjoying it.

35:54I figure you get one life so if you want to do anything just go and do it because life's way too short to be waiting for chances and opportunities. Go and make your opportunities. I'm taking boxing as far as I can take it doing everything I can in the sport and then I'm not wasting any time because I'm not getting any younger. Time's flashing by like that now. So I'm going to go straight into the bodybuilding take that to the limit see what I can do with that and then guess what? If I can get to Hollywood I'll get to Hollywood. Probably won't but we'll give it a go. Well, I think it's well worth a try, isn't it?

36:24Do you know what? Why not? Why not? What's going to happen? No. I've had plenty of them in my life and I've still come through it. An Oscar on the mantelpiece, perhaps. We'll see. We'll see. I don't know. Would you call yourself religious or spiritual or both? I would. I mean, religion has been a massive thing for me and it's not something that I owe. I talk about it for myself. I don't really speak a lot about it, but every chance I get on big platforms, I'm thanking Jesus Christ and everything that he's given me, me. Thank you for the victory. And I will continue to do so because that means a lot to me.

36:56When I was a kid, me and my brother Roman, we used to be altar boys at a local church, local Catholic church near us. And yeah, we went to, we go to Rome, we go to the Vatican and stuff. We are quite religious. And it's just something that's important to me. And I've never been one to pressurize others or, you know, really put it on anyone else. Like I'm saying this for me, you know, it's important to me and that's how it'll always be. Did you get it from your father? Yeah, everyone in my family is religious. But my nana on my mother's side used to take us to church every Saturday night. And then obviously every Christmas Eve we used to go, midnight mass.

37:31It has been very influential. And like I said, I put everything down to Jesus Christ. He's mapped out my path and I just have to walk it. You know, everything that's happening in my life or going to happen in my life, it's already mapped out. So when things were going wrong for you, do you stand by that as well? Yeah, yeah. Life can't be good all the time. You know, there's ups and downs, and it's always going to be that way. There's always going to be a rollercoaster ride, but guess what? It's all part of the plan. And if what doesn't kill you makes you stronger, and whatever is going to be in store for me, I'll handle it the best way I can and move forward.

38:05How old were you when you did Love Island? So, kind of, did, you know, all the lockdown. 19, just turning 20. Never watched Love Island before. Like I said, I was just in the gym one day. the phone rang do you want to do it yeah or nay I said no no thank you I've got fights coming up my boxer this is what I do but lo and behold the world works in mysterious ways my fights end up getting cancelled got nothing to do what should I do keep ticking over in the gym I was like been training for years like I could do with a break yeah go on I'll do it went on there packed one pair of trainers pair of shorts couple of t-shirts I thought I was going to be there for a couple of days, nice little holiday.

38:50Like I said, never seen it before. Come off and yeah, life was never the same again. Crazy, crazy whirlwind point in my life. I remember you being cast in that show and I've not seen the show myself. But I remember the Tyson Fury Brothers going into Love Island thing. And it was around the time that Love Island was about as popular as it ever has been. Do you think it would have been possible to have gone into that villa at the absolute height of its popularity and come out with a positive relationship with fame? I mean, I'm not sure. I mean, I come out with a positive relationship anyway because me, I don't think of myself as some celebrity or famous person.

39:38I'm just some big nose lad out of Salford. There's nothing special about me. I'm just a normal Jack the Lad type of guy. So I don't think of myself as anything. I'm just still the same guy. he's done all right for himself. You know, I don't think of myself as some celebrity. I don't, I really don't. I suppose it's nice to have that view. You know, around that time, people heading into that villa would come out with millions of followers, you know, from nowhere, having never done anything before. As somebody that, you know, had been on TV a fair amount, it was interesting to see a following be built so quickly.

40:14And also having such a negative effect on some of the people that receive the fame that quickly, you know, because I think when something's given to you like that and then essentially it's, you know, taken away, you know, it can be difficult for a person. But you've never seen anything like that that way? I think it's about how you take it. I mean, listen, don't get me wrong. It's a massive life change. You know, I went into the villa. I think I had like 15, 20 ,000 followers and then I was there for probably seven or eight weeks and I came out, I had over 2 million. It's like, you can't go to the corner shop and get a LucasAid without doing a million pictures and autographs and videos.

40:53And it's like, even for me, it was, I come out and I remember giving my phone back. I thought, what's going on here? I said, this ain't not 15, 20 ,000 accounts. It's my account here. Someone taking a piss. And it said like 2.1 on there, 2.2. And I said, this has got to be a joke. But I didn't know what was going on until we come off Love Island. And it was the night of the final. but the night of the final we all stayed in like a normal hotel and I thought this is a load of bullshit this I've not got 2 million followers because at that point I'd had more followers than Tyson which was like ridiculous I thought this is a load of crock of shit this so I've gone into the hotel and the lifts opened and bearing in mind I've not experienced fame at all in the slightest before this nobody's ever asked me for a picture before and the lifts open and a kid just froze in front of me and obviously I wasn't used to this at all and I was like you alright?

41:43and he's like I was like oh I don't know what's going on here so I got in the lift and that was that and then next minute I look out the window it's like a sea of people like downstairs like all waving and I'm like oh okay so it might be a little bit different here and then I remember the night of the final there was like a bit of public there and everybody knew our names and it was like what's going on? and then the real turning point was when we come back after Love Island the final's done flew back into Stansted and there's people literally ripping you top from left to right, asking for an autograph and a video.

42:16It's like, what is going on? And then from then on, it's like, oh. And then when I got home and I went to all my local areas where I grew up and the shops that I used to go to, it was completely different. And how was that for you? I just laughed. Did you like it? I wasn't really bothered, to be honest. I was like, well, I don't know what's going on, but I'll keep on running with it. but yeah even now when I think about it I just think it's so crazy because I you know I'm a kid that got expected nothing of nothing was ever down for me to live this life and the fact that it is it's just it's just crazy and you can't really stop and think about it you've just got to kind of just keep riding the wave that's all I do What do you mean by nothing was expected of you?

43:01Is that what you said? Yeah because Tyson's Tyson is and he will always be the superstar of the family he's that guy of our family he's he's that guy you know and nobody else was meant to do that like nobody else was meant to do okay I can't match what Tyson's done nobody can ever match what he's done what he's done is unthinkable but what I've done I've done okay for myself and it just wasn't down for me I was that I'm the youngest of the family I was the runt of the litter I was the guy that was just hanging around the gyms and hanging around the bags and nobody ever knew that I was going to do what I was going to do or make the impact like I have and yeah it's just the fact that it came out of nowhere it was literally that one phone call at that gym one day.

43:39And then none of my family had watched Love Island before. Nobody knew what it was. And nobody expected that what was going to happen was going to happen. And it was like, I went on this show, everybody watched me. And then I came off and it was like, wow. So what's going on? It's like I stepped out of being Tyson's brother. Because that's what I was getting named as all the time in the gyms. Tyson's brothers. I don't even think they knew my name. So all of a sudden, in this place for eight weeks, and then I come out and I'm like, oh, that's Tommy. And it's like, that's the first time I ever heard my name.

44:07And it was just crazy, to be honest, how life works. Another identity. Yeah. So I feel like there's been some real shifts in who you are and who you're going to become. Right now. Because it's interesting to me. You just said yourself, you were kind of always Tyson's brother. Yeah. And you became a very famous Love Islander. Then, you know, on your own merit, with your father's help, became, you know, a credible boxer, beating Jake Paul, becoming… that's not the best fight to us. But what I mean by that is, you know, that kind of added a whole new element of superstardom to you, that rivalry with Jake, you know, because essentially his entire following, which is enormous, suddenly becomes violently aware of you, you know, and then, you know, it feels like an ever-evolving story.

44:57Now with the changes of alcohol, you know, the fatherhood, all being well, you know, the more stable family life. Yeah. And, you know, looking to become world champion and pursuing, you know, other avenues. It feels like your life is exciting, interesting, and ever-evolving. Yes. Would you say that's fair? Definitely. There's always something new. And I'd say at this point in my life, I've never had so many identities. I'm the partner. I'm the brother. I'm the father. I'm the fighter. you know and you know in a business sense trying to work on that um you know everything's just 100 miles an hour all the time and i'm grateful for it i really am so blessed to be in the position that i'm in um and i never take it for granted um it's just about maximizing it to its full potential and like i said i don't believe in wasting time i feel like if there's something that i want to do i'm going to go out and do it and i just want to live my life now i think i want to um you know I want to do what makes me happy.

46:00And I don't believe in, you know, just cracking on my life and just settling. I never want to settle for anything. Like I love my life and I'm grateful every single day. And I just want to give a message out there to people watching this, not to waste any time and not to think, oh, I'll do that in a bit or I'll save up until I'm, you know, 30 or 40 or put that away. Don't put anything away. Obviously be sensible with what you're doing, but live your life because tomorrow's promised to nobody. You know, no one's guaranteed to wake up in the morning. And I know one thing, I want to wake, I want to go with as little regrets as possible.

46:34And like I say, I went through that tough year. You know, I didn't want to, but I'm kind of glad it's happened because I've learned so much about myself that I would have never known if that hadn't happened. So people, you know, it's not a dress rehearsal. You get one life. I do think it's another really interesting point that, you know, without the failure, without the mistakes. You don't learn, change, and develop in a way that I think eventually you can be really proud of. You don't evolve through... If you don't go through them struggles and them hard times, you don't evolve and you don't go to that next level.

47:11You don't find that next chapter of yourself. You keep living within. And then you have to experience tough times in order to go through them. It's life experience. It's why when you talk to these... You might see an old guy at the bar or an old guy at the restaurant, whatever, and you talk to him for five minutes. It's like they've been through so much. And it's life experience. And you can't get that if you don't go through the hard times. Well, you're a human being, mate. And it's honestly, it's refreshingly nice to see you having come out of that turbulent time. Appreciate it. You've also had a very long day.

47:43So I appreciate you squeezing us in. One thing I ask all my guests is, if you can offer our listeners some advice on how they can best untap their potential. Because it's my belief that we're all sat on mounds of untapped potential. From Tommy Fury, what takeaways could you give our listeners so that they can achieve more or live a fuller life? I think don't set yourself boundaries. Don't have any boundaries up here. I think think about what you want to do and go after it. But you can't set yourself boundaries. is if you want to do something, you've got to go pedal to the metal. You've got to go 100 miles an hour, and you've got to really throw yourself into it.

48:25And don't be afraid to get no's and setbacks and all this sort of stuff. You've just got to keep pushing through that. Any successful and famous person will tell you that. I remember watching something from Arnold years ago. It's like the amount of times he got told, no, no, no, no, no. He couldn't go to Hollywood, and he couldn't win Mr. Universe, and he couldn't do that. And look at the star he is today. And I grew up watching these motivational videos, and I thought, you know what? I'm going to go for this and I'm not going to let anything stop me and whatever comes along the way I'm going to take and I'm just going to ride the wave.

48:55So my message to everybody set yourself a goal and go and achieve it. Don't set yourself any boundaries don't limit yourself and just throw your all into it and guess what 99.9 % of the time when you do that it works out. Thanks very much for coming in. Thank you for having me. Perfect. I appreciate it. Thanks so much for listening we hope you enjoyed that episode and if you want to hear more incredible conversations with extraordinary people to help unlock the potential within all of us, then please subscribe, follow, and review the show wherever you're listening or watching. Thanks again, and we'll catch you next week, right here on Untapped.

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Tommy Fury steps into the spotlight to share the grit, the grind, and the truth behind his rise, from everyday beginnings to the global stage.


In this conversation, Tommy strips away the gloss to reveal the reality of his journey. He talks about growing up in a normal family, working for every opportunity, and refusing to do anything with less than 110% effort.


Tommy doesn’t shy away from the darker chapters. He recounts his struggles with alcohol and the moment he hit rock bottom, a turning point that forced him to take responsibility and rebuild his life with discipline and purpose. Through it all, he credits his family, especially his father, for giving him the belief and guidance to keep going.


This is a story of resilience, self-belief, and refusing to settle for half-measures.



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