

8 Aug 2026 · 2m · 1 chapter

SEO for e-commerce, focusing on attribution—how to measure each channel’s contribution to purchases rather than assuming last-click or single-channel impact.
Joe Dorian, Chief Product Officer at Botify (search/SEO technology company).
E-commerce teams will wish they started earlier with attribution thinking tied to the purchase outcome; shopping journeys are “messy” across phone, desktop, and traditional search, so teams must evaluate multi-touch contribution.
The transcript contrasts simplistic models (single chatbot/request) and single-channel assumptions with multi-device, multi-channel paths leading to buying.
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Exploration of the complexities of the shopping experience and attribution.
“I think humans are complex and messy people.”

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0:00Joe Doran: The Voices of Search podcast is a proud member of the I Hear Everything podcast network. Looking to launch or scale your podcast? I Hear Everything delivers podcast production, growth, and monetization solutions that transform your words into profit. Ready to give your brand a voice? Then visit IHearEverything.com. Welcome to the Voices of Search podcast and I Hear Everything production. In this podcast, we'll share the news, knowledge, and strategies you need to navigate the ever-changing world of SEO. Ready to expedite your company's organic growth efforts? Sit back, relax, and get ready for your daily dose of search engine optimization wisdom.
0:41Joe Doran: Here's today's host of the Voices of Search podcast, Tyson Stockton. My name is Tyson, and today I'm joined with Joe Dorian, Chief Product Officer at Botify. five years from now, what will e-commerce teams wish they had started doing earlier? Attribution. How do I think about the outcome I'm trying to drive and the contribution of each of my channels to that outcome? So I'm trying to get somebody to buy a product and I should not leverage the past 10 to 20 years of thinking and think everything is based on... Time for a one minute break to hear from our sponsor, Previsible. So you're looking for SEO help and you got a couple of options.
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2:47A isolated session. I think humans are complex and messy people. I do not believe they just go to a single chatbot, make a request, and then kind of like follow through and purchase. I think the shopping experience is messy. I think they do some things on their phone. I think they do some things on their desktop. I think they do some things in traditional search. I think they need to lift their head and think broader, stay anchored on the purchase, and look at the contribution or the attribution of all these efforts to that purchase.
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Enterprise retailers index only 40-50% of their product pages. Joe Doran, Chief Product Officer at Botify, breaks down why AI crawlers lag Google by 20 years in crawl efficiency and how JavaScript-heavy PDPs leave bots seeing just 30% of page content. The conversation covers structured product feeds as the new on-page SEO, aligning catalog data with protocols like OpenAI's Agentic Commerce Protocol and Google's Universal Commerce Protocol, and moving beyond organic traffic in isolation toward citation rate, crawl volume, and multi-touch attribution models built for zero-click discovery.
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