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26 Jun 2025 · 40m · 15 chapters

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#2904 Next Gen NYC S1E4 Part Two: Getting Fashionasty

In short

Watch What Crappens recap of Next Gen NYC S1E4 Part Two, “Getting Fashionasty,” mixing family drama, therapy talk, and a fashion-line pitch that turns into a party confrontation.

Guests (recap cast)

Brooks, Seth, Georgia, Dylan, Charlie, Anwar, Ava, Dame, Talia, Chloe, Gia, Omar, Amira, Riley, Hudson, Ariana, and designer Ron.

Guest backgrounds

Ava is tied to fashion (black belt in fashion; her dad founded Rockefeller Records and Rockwear). Hudson and Ariana want to start a clothing line. Ron designs for Williams-Sonoma and runs a fashion business. Charlie’s father is intense and controlling; Charlie is jobless and smokes weed.

Key claims

Anwar “gives up” on Charlie via allowance; Charlie needs a job/therapy. Ariana’s brand idea lacks a real plan. Ava’s “fun, sexy, cool” party concept excludes heels/suits/finance.

Notable examples

Cornhole insults; rigatoni served on a side table; crypto “anarchist” whiteboard meeting; bowling party concept with “bikinis on the balls”; Ron hiring them after “uniform” brand answers; cliffhanger: Ava and Ariana’s feud over fashion credibility.

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Chapters

0:00

Family Dynamics and Cornhole

A discussion of the interactions between Brooks, Seth, and Anwar.

“I got these bar stools from Article and they fit my mid-century modern space so well.”
2:41

Family Dynamics and Cornhole

A discussion of the interactions between Brooks, Seth, and Anwar.

“So Brooks and Seth are in a confessional And Seth is like I am so proud of you I was like thanks dad Pull my finger What?”
4:18

Charlie and Anwar's Toxic Relationship

Exploring the toxic relationship dynamics between Charlie and his father.

6:46

The Weight of Expectations

Charlie struggles with the expectations set by his father, Anwar.

“As he just got to, he literally just came to his house with like 10-year-old joints.”
9:22

The Bronx Golf Outing

Brooks and Ava join their fathers at a golf event focusing on entrepreneurship.

“I would pay money to get him out of my face.”
14:00

Therapy and Childhood Memories

Exploration of therapy experiences and childhood anecdotes regarding fear and imagination.

“Oh, so you didn't have to go to therapy because your parents were having a high profile divorce because your mom was a fashion designer and your dad was like a super famous entrepreneur?”
18:34

Rainy Day Shenanigans

A humorous recount of a chaotic rainy day involving fashion and mishaps.

“He's screaming like a woman in the rain.”
23:10

Party Planning with Georgia

Georgia's creative approach to planning parties, focusing on fun and exclusivity.

“So I told my mom, we went bowling and she was like, I love bowling.”
26:15

A Complex Apology

Charlie navigates his past mistakes and attempts to apologize while discussing relationships.

“And then he sent a text and said, maybe I'll be at home having sex with your sister.”
28:00

Exploring Fashion Dreams

The group discusses their aspirations in fashion and the challenges they face.

“I've been waiting 13 years for someone to come upstairs in this office building for me to give them some hard knowledge.”
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30:00

The Elevator Pitch Challenge

Ariana attempts to craft her elevator pitch for her fashion brand, leading to humorous moments.

“Well, we want to, we don't want to sell it in elevators.”
31:20

The Reality of Fashion Business

Ron gives tough love advice about the fashion industry, highlighting the realities of business relationships.

“because I've been doing it and I've done it.”
32:30

Party Conversations and Conflicts

At Chloe's birthday party, tensions rise as Brooks and Ava discuss Ariana's ambitions in fashion.

“Um, because like, I can't tell if I'm being like, I'm surprised that she's a fashion designer has like a negative connotation in what you're saying, Ava.”
34:10

Ariana vs. Ava: The Confrontation

Ariana confronts Ava about her negative comments, revealing deeper insecurities and misunderstandings.

“Like, I don't know if what, if what Ariana, if what she wears is like, you know, silly or basic, I don't know if it's basic or not, but it's not fashion.”
37:40

Navigating the Fashion World

Discussion about the challenges Ariana faces in the fashion industry and the need for resilience.

“She's like, I just wanted to have a stupid little streetwear bra that I can build off of until I have the money because I'm sorry my parents can't pay for everything because I'm paying their fucking bills.”
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0:00I got these bar stools from Article and they fit my mid-century modern space so well. There's nothing cheap about these. They are sturdy. They are heavy. They've got leather seats. And the best thing, I got to pick them out and they were brought into my home and put together by Article in the room that I wanted. Everything else was taken out of there. It looks so good. So thanks, Article. I'm not surprised. You know why, Ronnie? Because Article makes it effortless to create a stylish, long-lasting home at an unbeatable price. There's a curated collection for every style. They have a curated range of mid-century modern, coastal, scanty-inspired pieces that not only shine on their own, but also pair seamlessly with nearly any other Article product.

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2:11What happens when there's so much that happens? It's a bunch of crap. Oh, well, it's a bunch of crap. Who cares what happens when there's so much that happens? Well, hello and welcome to Watch What Crappens. This is part two of a two-part recap. If you're like, hey, wait a minute, I didn't hear part one. Guys, it's because we put out a lot of recaps. Go back and listen to part one, okay? It's before this one. Bye. Enjoy the show. So Brooks and Seth are in a confessional And Seth is like I am so proud of you I was like thanks dad Pull my finger What? Pull it No dad gross Old person if I touch your finger I'm gonna get old So then they play cornhole And Anwar's like Uh oh I won give me$20 Or you don't have it maybe get a job stupid Am I right?

3:07Am I right? Brooks goes, wow, you guys take Cornhole really seriously. So then Charlie and Anwar walk off together. Anwar's like, we need to have a talk. You're 30 years old and you're stupid and a loser. Why do you smell the cabbage? Why? By the way, I left a book for you upstairs. That's one flight of stairs. I guess according to you, five stupid don't understand elevators. and uh then uh everyone's watching them of course and brooks is like i love seeing charlie and like his family dynamic yeah georgia goes yeah it's i just like that they look alike it's like very cute i mean their relationship is totally toxic but the fact that they look alike is so cute and dylan's like no yeah they're totally like a lot yeah and then some other girls like yeah it's like his older self and like yeah that's what i'm saying it's like holding up a mirror to him in like 40 years oh my god wow so then we go back to the 40 years how old do you think anwar is give the guy a break she actually said like it's like holding up a mirror to him in like 50 well 40 years like 50 years i'm so glad we finally got to meet methuselah look at that guy what is he 53 i love that they're turning anwar into like a 90 year old they have no concept and looks pretty good what do you think he is like mid 50s yeah i think so and more looks great i'm always like a is definitely like a silver fox like he he is like you know i think if you were into that kind of like older daddy look like he looks fantastic you know why because he orders niçoise salads without the dressing that's why he eats fucking romaine lettuce and that's it yeah like a hard-boiled egg and an anchovy and that's his day yeah so enjoy your enjoy your extra side of caesar dressing van goh uh so then we go back to the dad and son and anwar's like so anyway any plans as you approach sturdy you're not dying apparently are you still partying what are we doing with ourself you going to school no you're still laughing at school school still funny to you pothead you pothead found a loser i know you don't want to talk about it but you have to have a plan for it you know toni dotty it's like no no like it's not positive frankly when we have these conversations it's like no it's not so much a conversation it's more like me giving you recommendations that what you could be successful and you staring out into space because you're stupid and a bad body and like dylan so then we go back to georgia and she's like i feel like weird like low-key because like i feel like i know charlie's perspective of his dad and it's not positive okay this is kind of weird because like charlie's dad is like a pretty intense figure he like has a job and goes to work and shows up on time and then leaves and then is successful like that's so intense but i think that like charlie grew up like with very very high expectations of like doing the minimum things like showing up to places on time and i think that like charlie being like he just like rebelled against that and i think at like a certain point like parent and child both kind of get fed up with each other you know parent wanting just some sort of reasonable outcome for the effort he put into rearing the child and the child just wants another free burger at blued you know it's hard yeah you know i think there's something there are parents who are just over demanding and they're going to be disappointed in whatever you do but then there's also disappointment bred in reality where it's like you have everything i've given you every opportunity and you choose to do nothing and be a loser and i'm team amnor you know i'm team i'm team i'm team anwar too uh and i think that anwar is awful i also would like to add that i think he is so mean to charlie and like the competitive thing is actually like that is fucked up like when he's like who's more attractive me or anwar like all these like micro competitions that that charlie's probably had to grow up with like that's a lot but charlie's even worse so lesser of two evils i'm going team anwar yeah team anwar so george is like yeah like low-key like i feel weird because like his perspective of his dad is like not positive you know so then um charlie's like yeah like now we see them arguing charlie and anwar arguing really anwar is just like so are you going to do anything with your life?

7:29And Charlie's like, God, Dad! As he just got to, he literally just came to his house with like 10-year-old joints. It's like, anybody want to go smoke joints with me? I'm like, you're at your dad's house, you fucking... Like, if your dad already thinks you're a loser, why are you showing up to smoke weed in his backyard with your friends, you know? Like, come on, make some kind of effort. But he's like, God, I can't do anything to make him happy. And he's really happy. Like, I'd get 99 on a math test, and he's like, why'd you miss that one point? you never got nine to prove to me that you got 99 on a math test first yes and tell us why you couldn't go the distance and get your 100 we're still waiting geez so then talia serves the group rigatoni which i can't believe anwar didn't just dump her right then and there because that's crazy a plate of carbs have you lost your goddamn mind he's already stupid enough why don't you just put a potato in his brain and call it day.

8:23Call it day. There was something about this rigatoni that like I thought was strange. Like I thought that like it was strange that Talia just goes walking by her with a big bowl of rigatoni and then George is like is that rigatoni? Can I have it? And she's just like why don't you go to the table that Talia's headed to. So then Talia puts down a giant bowl of rigatoni on this little side table thing that they're all sitting around with the couches. There was something I don't know I felt like there was something so entitled about this girl on the side who's like a guest in the house being like is that rigatoni can i have and i was like get up and go sit at the table yeah um so george is like yeah the other day he said something so weird he was like i can't be around my dad because my dad doesn't even want me there and that's why he gives me allowance because he doesn't even want to be around me i won't pay the problem to go away i get it yeah be be someone that someone wants to be around because as far as I can tell, I don't think any of us would want to be around Charlie.

9:22I would pay money to get him out of my face. You know, at a certain point, like Anwar does seem terrible. I really do feel like Anwar has like really terrible, um, like aspects to him, but I also can imagine that you've spent 30 years trying to make this shit show, like try to like fix the shit show that you probably created yourself. Like, let's not take it. Let's not like absolve Anwar of any responsibility in Charlie's outcome, but you've been trying to fix it and you can't at a certain point, you're just like, you know what? Just let's just remove it. Here's some money. Go back to Manhattan.

9:56Yeah. And basically there's some girl there who kind of speaks for all of us because she's like, yeah, guys, it's like really hard because Charlie's dad just gave up on him. And like, it's really hard for Charlie to live like that. Someone goes, yeah, but like Charlie's 30. So I love that. Yeah, it's getting too old now. So then Charlie like joins them and he's like, whoa, it just never ends, bro with my dad. You know, he's just fucking pissing me off. And Georgia goes, you hate when people do that. Yeah. I think that's part of when you get pissed off. Like, oh my God, don't you hate when people piss you off?

10:36No, I love when people piss me off. I love that. That makes me thrive. I'm Charlie It's like, well, at the end of the day, you get nothing from nothing. I just want peace in my life. And part of me is worried that I'll never get it until he dies, frankly. But I don't know. Guess we'll have to wait and see. You're such a little asshole. Oh, my God. You want peace in your life? Get a fucking job. That's what you need. You need to stop living off this hateful person. You know, if he's so hateful and terrible, stop taking his money and go do what the rest of us do. Work, you little asshole. So he's like, come on, guys.

11:07Let's go smoke weed together in my dad's backyard. Also, has he never seen a thoughtful foreign film? Do you think you're going to get peace when someone dies? Hello? You're going to have hours and hours and hours of staring up into the abyss and wondering what you could have done differently and now it's too late. Oh, hello? There will be no peace for you. Yeah. So then we go to the Bronx and it's a golf outing with Brooks and Ava and their dads. Yeah. so uh because dame is doing this golf event etc and dame is talking about how everyone there's like the principles from economically challenged places and he's brought and now he's taught them entrepreneurship hopefully he didn't teach them accounting as well and ava's like yeah he's like my dad's like an entrepreneur he founded rockefeller records and like rockwear when i was like four and i was like in rockwear campaigns you know because you know he is he has a big deal and everything and he says that Ava has a black belt in fashion and he wants her to know that she's the superhero that she is okay so that's what this golf event is all about I don't know that I trust somebody to trust to teach me entrepreneurship when they say they're going to teach me entrepreneurial ship hmm how much are you making off of these golf outings because I do not believe you.

12:29So then they're riding along with their dads and Dame lights a joint and he's like, hey man, you wanna smoke? And Seth's like, oh yeah, you know, I work kind of for a public company, so I can't really do that. You know, shove my face in boob cakes? I can do that. You got that around? You got anyone's wife I can kind of, you know, sexually harass in a fun way? That I can do. but I don't know. Weed? Yeah. See this fun, loving, down with everything Seth persona you're seeing. It's just a facade for TV. I'm just actually a pretty soulless corporate guy, unfortunately, so no weed for me. Thank you very much.

13:10I don't know that Big Lots is going to like that. Put my hands up. Walk away slowly. It's called Big Lots, not Big Joints. So Brooks is like, whatever, dad. So then Seth is asking if her and dame ever hang out and she's like yeah all the time and then seth is like you hear that you hear that you hear that like child and child and parent hang out all the time so it's totally normal set totally normal brooks it's totally fine he's like ew gross disgusting so now they're talking about charlie and because avid didn't go to that thing so he's like yeah i was like cute seeing charlie with his family but like it was weird it was like freaking out she's like oh my god he's such a drama queen and so she's like yeah i'm not gonna reach out to him because like it's not our responsibility you know my dad's thing is like it's like super rooted yeah so we're like rooted together he's like yeah but my dad is like trying to make me go to therapy and like then he like left halfway through the therapy and was like oh no this is charlie charlie said that someone tried to make him go to like therapy and then he left like halfway through the therapy and he was like i'm not doing therapy yeah but then like he started saying to me and dylan and georgia like we should all go he was like you guys should go and so we see that like charlie's acting like therapy is disgusting but then he's like telling everyone that they need therapy and eva's like what he's like i mean first of all i have a therapist second of all i have an icon as a mother which is therapy in and of itself yeah first of all so do i i mean we all need fucking therapy i mean take the help i used to be the type where i would hate therapy too and when my parents were getting divorced they put me in a therapist's office and i literally sat there and i was like i will not talk i was so stubborn because i was like i know i'm gonna be a model at some point so like why do i even need the therapy and brooks was like yeah i had to go to therapy when i was eight because i was seeing ghosts yeah there were like all my house yeah i thought i thought i saw elves in the stairway.

15:14Oh, so you didn't have to go to therapy because your parents were having a high profile divorce because your mom was a fashion designer and your dad was like a super famous entrepreneur? No, I just thought I saw elves. That's it. But then I found out in therapy that it was really elves. It was just my dad dressed in tights trying to turn my mom on. Yeah, I survived. So Seth is like, yeah, well, who was there when you were crawling like a Navy SEAL at three years old because you were scared of monsters in your bedroom. What did I do? What did I do? Well, you'd make a little bed and sleep on the floor and I'd sleep on the floor next to your bed.

15:52I didn't make it. That was a dog bed from HomeGoods. But still, I put it there and you curled up and you slept in it. Remember what you tried to do? Tried to sew it all together, but you couldn't get the needle through the hole. And I said, that's okay, son. Mom works. later on we found out that the reason why i was seeing elves everywhere was because chloe and i would walk around the house and always go slay slay after a while i can only make so many christmas references before you see the elves it's time for a commercial it's time for a crappin's commercial I got these bar stools from Article, and they fit my mid-century modern space so well.

16:37There's nothing cheap about these. They are sturdy. They are heavy. They've got leather seats. And the best thing, I got to pick them out, and they were brought into my home and put together by Article in the room that I wanted. Everything else was taken out of there. It looks so good. So thanks, Article. I'm not surprised. You know why, Ronnie? because Article makes it effortless to create a stylish, long-lasting home at an unbeatable price. There's a curated collection for every style. They have a curated range of mid-century modern, coastal, scanty-inspired pieces that not only shine on their own, but also pair seamlessly with nearly any other Article product.

17:14Yeah, I mean, they've got quality without compromise. They take great care in curating their collections. You know, they focus solely on high-quality, meaningful pieces that will stand the test of time. And with Article, there's no filter. Every item is chosen for its craftsmanship, design, and lasting value. Article offers fast, affordable shipping across U.S. and Canada with options for professional assembly if you prefer a hands-off experience, which I do. I do. Article is offering our listeners$50 off your first purchase of$100 or more. To claim, visit article.com slash crappens, and the discount will be automatically applied at checkout.

17:50That's article.com slash crappens for$50 off your first purchase of$100 or more. There is such a better way to spend your time than doom scrolling or watching terrible TV. Get some stories in your life, okay? Audible is perfect for that. I use it while I'm cleaning the house, while I'm running errands. I listen to books all day, every day with Audible. Yeah, they have a massive library of audiobooks and ad-free podcasts. And it is really the perfect thing to turn on when you're taking a long drive, washing some dishes. Like, enrich yourself. New members can start listening with a 30-day free trial at audible.com slash WWC.

18:33So then it starts raining, and Dame is hilarious in this. He's like, ah! He's screaming like a woman in the rain. He's like, not the Gavonchi! Or whatever. and brooks is like oh my god this vest has goose down it can't get wet which i loved and i was anxious about i was like he's right that goose can't get that goose down can't get wet and he's like oh my god my phone fell off oh my god the elves took my phone dad the elves took my phone what do i do he's like um it's right here oh yeah sorry he's like dad my phone's gone can you put my location on he's like i don't know how to put your location because you're my locations and your phone it's like no it's raining what am i supposed to do out of here the rain that's so good so then um we go to brooks's apartment and he's inviting everybody to a surprise party for chloe and gia writes back brooklyn okay but only because i love you both and also I'll be late.

19:39Don't do us any favors, Gia. There's no good reason why you should be on this show. You're off in Jersey. You're a totally different vibe from everyone else. You're just honest. That way they can put Teresa in the promos. So show up at the shoot date and be happy about it. Yeah. So then we go to Georgia having a meeting with Omar at his office. This is where we see all the whiteboards and stuff. And she's like, yeah, I think it's ironic. that I'm dating someone in finance because he's not even in finance. He's in crypto. Yeah, normally I wouldn't do finance, but crypto's different because it's like the antithesis of finance.

20:16It's like anarchist. It's like radical, you know? Yes, all those crypto bros, totally anarchist, right? Like this is, I mean, I feel like I'm in, I feel like I'm watching Robin Hood, okay? Look at these guys upending the system for the poor so then um george is like um yeah i'm sorry i didn't come over last night i was watching a really good movie and like popped a bottle of chandone um yeah have you ever have you ever seen sleepless in seattle it's like a movie from olden times it was so good uh so she's like uh we need to think about our business he goes you want a whiteboard and she goes um hell yes okay so here's the thing give me a marker okay here's what i like i like super modern parties, right?

21:07So what's my number one priority in life? And he's like, when Harry Mazzelli quotes, no, Carrie Bradshaw quotes, no, the other thing, having fun, fun, I believe in fun. Okay, I'm going to write fun down, fun. Okay, exactly. Okay, so number two, number two what? I don't know. I'm just saying number two. No, not poop, not poop. Number two, just come up with some concepts. sexy and cool sexy and cool you know it hello okay i've written fun sexy and cool i think we figured it all out it's all written on the whiteboard we know the next concept okay let's apply for a grant uh so she's like here's my philosophy from my club if you're wearing heels i'm gonna i'm not gonna let you in and if you're wearing like a suit i'm not gonna let you in and then it closes up on her boyfriend who's in a suit and she's like if you work in finance i'm not gonna let you in and it stays closed up on him just looking like stoned as hell she's like and then number three letters she goes what's more your priority money that's right money so like you know what like american psycho is a really good example of like the archetype of a person i don't want coming to my man i don't want serial killers okay this is not a place for serial killers in high heels she's a real innovator i have to say i love that she's gonna she's gonna cornered the market on parties by making them fun they're gonna be fun sexy and cool serial killers not allowed no high heels unless they're on my friends you can't wear a suit unless you're my boyfriend you can't work in finance unless you're my boyfriend this show was hilarious and she's like okay guess what we're gonna do because young kids like us they like nerdy things bowling bowling the georgia bowling has been back for like 15 years now i know she's like okay i've got this great idea.

23:03Okay. So like America and middle America, middle America loves taking a ball and rolling it down a surface. Okay. So I told my mom, we went bowling and she was like, I love bowling. I was like, Oh my God, my mom loves bowling. And then I had to explain to her it was not just throwing bowls at the wall. And she said, Oh, nevermind. So we don't have that much in common, but we do love that. And I'm like, wait a second. This could be a great unifier. I like a cool bowling party. I'm like, Bullmore lanes has been doing this for 25 years in New york city just go to the where is it in the village somewhere like this is not a fresh concept it became like super trendy yeah like 20 years ago 15 20 years ago and she's acting like wow i went to lucky strike last weekend and it was old like it seemed old and run down that's how long it's been yeah it's crazy it used to be impossible wow it's like an old bowling alley now you know remember that was like the thing you would go there and you'd have to wait two hours to get to a lane.

23:58It was such a thing. And then Highland Park, there's that very trendy, old-timey bowling alley that's hipster. It's where if you're pretending you're in Mumford & Sons, you'd go to bowl. So she's like, I just figured it out, guys. Trendy bowling. So that's her concept. Me and my mom don't have a lot of common, but we both bowl. Do you understand? So here's what I want. Moms in flats who don't serial kill. now how do we make it sexy and cool hmm okay we put bikinis on the balls got it great one piece is on the mom so i'm not a monster so then we go to ava meeting up with uh charlie and she um basically charlie's like so how can i make us friends again she's like apologize he okay then i'm sorry she goes but you need to mean it he goes but i do and she's like no you don't Like I'm trying to help you be friends with everybody.

24:54And then you get like sassy and I don't like that. Okay. And he's like, okay, then I'm sorry. But also I'm good with Riley. Cause I also went to apologize to her today. It's like my apology to her day. So yeah, we went to Dumbo and then we see a flashback of Riley with Charlie and it's like, okay. She's like, okay, I'm here to listen to you. He's like, well, I was going to say the same thing to you. She's like, yeah, but I already explained it to you. Like, how do I explain it again? Why, why do, why do you, why do I have to say it anymore? okay what are you listening to he's like okay well none of my actions ever came from a place of malice or anything like that i would never try to hurt anyone and it's kind of like a very paint by the numbers thing of like i didn't mean it and he's like i'm really sorry and i shouldn't have undermined my apology i just didn't want to i just didn't want to be painted in an unfairly villainized light i just wanted to be a villain for other reasons but not for racial stuff you know and maybe i'm the you know maybe i'm triggered because my dad this is my dad's fault you want to be mad at my dad you can be mad at my dad he's like i'm an asshole but i'm not a racist asshole i'm just an asshole who says racially insensitive things and she's like whatever charlie so then we go back to avon charlie and she's like i mean like you're an aa basically like you have to go apologize to everyone and he's like what is that like a ninth step it's like yeah kind of so uh then they seem to be okay and he's such a dumbass charlie's like by the way have you have you seen anyone like hudson and ariana and gia all those poor people from other tv shows and eva's like not really just brooks like oh really because ariana's kind of growing on me for no good reason she's like really in what way you have a crush on her he's like yeah maybe i'll try to fuck her low-key i don't know she's like charlie which is his way of being like this is he didn't like that hudson stopped to him like a few episodes ago so i think he's like i know what i'll do i'm gonna cruel intentions it and sleep with this girl and ruin it from the inside i think he's i mean honestly i think he's just kidding i think he's just saying ariana's growing on me she goes what do you what do you have a crutch he's like oh yeah yeah i have real credit i'm really gonna try and fuck harya that's how i took it but of course it's a reality show So they're going to take it and repeat it until it's like, oh, my God, Charlie's trying to fuck Ariana now.

27:09And then he sent a text and said, maybe I'll be at home having sex with your sister. Can you even believe it? This episode even opened with that, with Brooks being like, well, yeah, but then he sent me a text and he was like, maybe I'll come over or maybe I'll be at my apartment with your sister. It's like, OK, it's episode four. We're going to need to drop this. at some point. Seriously. So she's like, you know he has a boyfriend for like, she has a boyfriend for two years. He goes, yeah, but like, I'm not actively going to try, but if it falls into my lap, like if I get like the smallest green light.

27:49So then we go to Hudson and Ariana meeting designer Ron. We don't know what Ron designs really, do we? Do they tell us? He like designs aprons for Williams-Sonoma, but they're like, okay, put on this hat and a leather jacket. Go. and his name is Ron so go with it so they go check out his clothing place his like fashion district whatever and she's like yeah I've wanted a clothing line forever but like I don't know how to do anything so like that's what part of New York is about you know like you come here you don't get educated you just talk to people like Ron they you know tell you how to like make your dreams come true without like actually doing any work so Ron's like alright kids I'm glad you came here.

28:33I've been waiting 13 years for someone to come upstairs in this office building for me to give them some hard knowledge. When I started my brand, I went in with a strategy on identifying three brands. Okay, so do you have three brands in your head that you like and you'd like how they're executed? Okay, go. And they're like, McDonald's, Pep Boy, Starbucks. Well, those are brands. They do wear uniforms. Okay, you're hired. Whoa, cool. So then they really want to know. Okay, but like, tell me about the empire you want to start. And Hudson's like, well, like, we're both obsessed with clothes. Like, we don't go like somewhere in a trash bag.

29:09Even though I could make a trash bag look good. How would you do that? I don't know. So Ron's like, okay, so if you're creating the product, where is it going to be shipped? Where is it going to be housed? You know, how's it being paid for? Where are you guys at with that process? And Ariana goes, um, we've been saving up. They have no answers. okay well whatever you think you have is not enough all right what's your mission statement impossible no like your mission statement uh tortilla chips all right this isn't a game show okay this is supposed to give me the first word that comes to your head do you know what a mission statement is i don't okay it's like the idea for your company i like clothes okay jesus christ oh Oh my God.

29:58Why did I ever take that wine cooler from Kim Zolciak 20 years ago? All right. Give me your elevator pitch. Well, we want to, we don't want to sell it in elevators. No, no, no. Elevator pitch. It's like you, you're in an elevator ride with someone. You got 10 seconds. Why would I, we have a walk up. No, I know. But like theoretically you're in an elevator, you're pitching me the idea. Okay. All right. This brand to me is all about people feeling great and what they're wearing. And it's going to be an amazing quality as well as you're going to stand up taller and we're going to start out with pastels the mission statement is pastels and i'm very known for pastels which is why i wear only black on this tv show like little hearts everywhere i love little hearts which is why i don't wear them and we'll have details the mission statement are pastel little hearts ta-da and they just kept they showed her face and but they put an elevator graphic in front of her and they just kept like closing the door on her face it was so funny.

30:53It's like just bashing her head in the elevator. Like, we believe in pastel streetwear. Boom. We believe in hearts. Boom. Okay, so you're going to have pastel jogging pants with hearts. Sounds great. Just go on Timu and slap your fucking label on it like we know you're going to do anyway. So Ron's like, okay, well, there's a tremendous amount of enthusiasm, a tremendous amount of enthusiasm, but the plan's not there. Okay, focus, focus, focus. And here's another pearl of wisdom that I have because I've been doing it and I've done it. This business will aid you in dog years. Seven for everyone.

31:25Your relationship is going to be challenged, okay? And Ariana goes, well, what doesn't kill you make you stronger? Yeah, that's what I thought. So, kid, it's called heroin, okay? You can go to the brink and come back. Enjoy fashion. She's like, but to get adored angels into the open, we need to get moving. So I can't wait. We're going to samples. Yeah, we're going to get samples and then we're going to have a drop and then we're going to have another drop and then we're going to have another drop. we're gonna drop so many things yeah and i love um they're like hudson's just totally unbothered by all this because he's just like i'm rich it'll be fine yeah he's like i don't whatever she needs to do to give her something to do but um if you're serious go to school you know what i mean like parsons is right there it's right right there right there right there right there honey so um we go to chloe's 23rd birthday party and they're like oh my god cheers chloe so then uh brooks and ava are talking about the charlie date and him apologizing and brooks is like do you think loki has feelings for you like loki oh my god stop you really think it's like totally platonic i look at like charlie as like my gay best friend like there's like no way he could have a crush on me like he did say he would hook up with ariana though even though she has a boyfriend what no he didn't i cannot wait to tell him that unless you give me something more to start a fight with ariana in this very episode work on it so then amira's there we haven't seen amira in forever like she wasn't even on last episode and now she's finally showing up here and eva's talking to her and she's like because amira just met ariana for the first time i think so it was like did you know that Ariana's a fashion designer?

33:12What? I did not know that. And she's like, yeah, she told me. I was a little surprised. Um, because like, I can't tell if I'm being like, I'm surprised that she's a fashion designer has like a negative connotation in what you're saying, Ava. She's like, well, I don't mean it in a negative way. It just means that like when I see her, it doesn't give like, I'm starting a fashion line because I'm a fashion designer. honestly it's a fair point it's you know it's a fair point it's a fair point it's a fair point too and i don't think she said anything like horribly dissing her right she's just like oh that girl never gave me any clue that she was a fashion designer i mean she hasn't talked about it she hasn't asked ava what it's like being a model in high fashion like there's been nothing about it.

34:02I don't, I don't think it was dress. I mean, again, I'm not a fashion gay, but it's not like she dresses in a way that seems like incredibly fashion forward. Like, I don't know if what, if what Ariana, if what she wears is like, you know, silly or basic, I don't know if it's basic or not, but it's not fashion. Like it's not cutting edge or anything. So she's like, she wants to work in fashion and she hasn't like in any of the conversations, there's nothing that she said that's indicated that she has like a massive interest in fashion beyond like oh here's the thing i want to do so she's like what i don't get it yeah so then um ava's like do not agree and amara's like well i had a friend in high school or college who would say things like that and it's just like it's fucked up like it's fucked up you shouldn't say that about people you know it's not classy to talk shit about someone you just met i mean why are you intentionally talking someone down to make yourself feel better like be a good person bitch so then brooks goes right over to ariana and riley's like brooks were you you were talking to ava for so long what were you talking about yeah what were you talking about we're wondering because everyone's been off in their own groups guys i don't want to have to do this let me roll back on the sofa no guys i don't want to have to do this it's not a big deal stop forcing me stop Stop pulling my arms.

35:24Spit it out. I'm being ripped apart. Ava says that you're a terrible fashion designer and you're ugly and stupid and she can't believe you're going to have a fashion line. They, like, asked me the same question, like, five times. Like, what was I supposed to do?

35:42So then Ariana's like, Bitch, I got my clothes out of boxes today. So why don't you fuck off? All my cool clothes are in a box. I just happen to be stuck wearing this Forever 21 today. Yeah, why don't you go back to the actual circus with your shorts and your little shirt and shut the fuck up? I mean, she's wearing gold sparkly shorts, like telling me like I have like no style. Like if I wanted to go to Forever 21, I would have. And I love Forever 21. Just not the sparkle section. That's like bullshit. I want Ava with the bitch ass attitude. Like for real, honestly, I think it's rude as shit. I don't even know what's going on.

36:21I know Ava's a model. I didn't know she had a clothing line. Apparently, that's what she's best known for, her, whatever. She knows what's best for her. So Riley and then Ava go to the bathroom, and then Amira knocks on the door, and they kiki for a little bit. And then Ava winds up sitting down next to Brooks in Georgia, and Ava's like, Yeah, I was just telling Chloe that she should dance at the bar. and George is like, okay, be chill because don't freak out about this but there's a situation brewing. Someone with heels wants to come into this bar. It's disgusting. They're probably going to serial kill people but you didn't hear it from me.

37:01Okay, well, guess what's going on in there? Someone said that you said blah, blah, blah. So then we cut to Ariana and she's like, Um, Amara, I know she's your really good friend but and then we go back to Brooks and he's like, Gia, Ariana, and Riley were like, what are you guys talking about? So I was talking about how you were surprised that Ariana has a clothing brand. And they was like, Brooks, what the hell? Why would you say that? It's not meant to be serious. Like, that being said, I'm not going to pretend I didn't say it, I guess. So I guess I'll say it to her face. So she goes to sit next to Ariana and Ariana's still making this big deal out of it.

37:40And she's like, oh yeah. Oh no, she's in the bathroom still. She's like, I just wanted to have a stupid little streetwear bra that I can build off of until I have the money because I'm sorry my parents can't pay for everything because I'm paying their fucking bills. I love you, Brooks, and thank you for introducing me to these people generally, but I don't know if some of the people are for me because I don't know what the fuck is going on. I literally feel like this girl's Regina George. I didn't know we were in Mean Girls. Before we were like, I'm sorry, what'd you say? I cut you off. I can't believe a model would be a mean girl.

38:10This was totally shocking. I know, right? So then And Ava's like, I mean, Georgia, it's just that every time I've seen her, I don't think she has like the best style for like a fashion. OK, before I was like, what she said isn't really that bad. And then she makes it worse. Yeah. And Georgia's like, oh, yeah. And so G and Ariana sit next to them. And Ava's like, are you OK? She's are you like, why are you coming from my brand that you don't even know about? Like, I barely even know about it. I just came up with hearts today on the fly. so wrong to like pastels and that is the end that's the that's the cliffhanger how will this confrontation pan out so we'll see to be but just to be clear um what ava said wasn't very nice but yeah being a fat a high fashion model does give her more experience than you who haven't done that and she's also the daughter of an actual fashion designer who's pretty successful so yeah i would think that she would know more than you and you should probably just eat some humble pie and like try and learn something and be like hey listen you're right i don't have a lot of experience i don't really know what i'm doing it's just always been my dream and i know you know more than me maybe you can help me out or introduce me to your mom or like point me in the right direction yeah and like we haven't really seen her in like a lot of street wear or that interested in street wear so we've been worried for years that she's going to end up on the streets and i was going where but

39:45but but uh yeah I mean look also Ariana you're gonna have to toughen up because if this is the thing that's gonna send you I can't imagine people the world of fashion is not known for being nice or polite and genuine so buck up because it's gonna be a long ride for you get used to it that being said it's all done fun episode it's done and so are we alright everybody thanks so much for being here we will talk to you either later today or in the morning with Miami and we'll be back with some Love Island next week so join us for that if you want to catch up on Love Island we've got 18 million hours of it over on Patreon so go check it out and for videos be on Crappens On Demand on Patreon we love you we'll talk to you next time bye bye watch what Crappens would like to thank its premium sponsors Ain't no thing like Alison King.

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Charlie introduces his friends to Anwar on this week’s Next Gen NYC, and they just see an older, slightly a-hole-ier version of Charlie. Later, Arianna is shocked to find out that that Ava dissed her fashion aspirations just because she doesn’t really know anything about fashion or have any experience or visible taste. It’s a tough one. You can watch this recap on video, listen to our Love Island bonus episodes, and participate in live episode threads at patreon.com/watchwhatcrappens. 

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