#2905 RHOM S7E3: A Wedding, A Funeral, And a Very UnGOATlike Fall From Grace

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2:23Ronnie Karam: Well, hello and welcome to What's What's Crappens. I'm Ronnie and that's Ben over there.

2:29Ben Mandelker: Hello, Ben. Hi, how are you? Sup, brah. Sup. Sup.

2:37Ronnie Karam: Today is Real Housewives of Miami day here on What's What's Crappens. Also join us over on Patreon for our three-day-a-week Love Island coverage. That's going to be super fun for you. You guys should go check it out. Also, that's where you get videos. You get videos of us doing all of our recaps at patreon.com. What's going on today? Anything fun? Who are you writing right now? I hear...

3:03Ben Mandelker: I'm typing because I literally just bought a board game, and I have to, like, type in the address. I was like, oh, Ronnie's going to be making some announcements, but I didn't realize how loud my keyboard would be.

3:13Ronnie Karam: Tour is over. Announcements are done. There's nothing left to say. There's nothing. no. Well, you got to break audience. Okay. You don't, now we can just jump right into the show. How do you think about that?

3:24Ben Mandelker: I have to say, I mean, Miami is just, it's so good. It really is up there with Salt Lake City. And I, I just, I know we say it every week. Like, I just cannot believe people don't watch it. Like, I can't believe there are people that are saying, Oh, I just haven't been able to take it on. Like, it is such a good show and i was just thoroughly i was just like cracking up at this ridiculous shit show everyone is always on 10 and like from start to finish they just really kill it also i have an update a very important update about last week's episode when um larsa and um and well larsa son and lisa walked in that fashion show for like philip pline or whatever so i think we were wondering like is this guy like a legit like fashion designer or not so i did ask a friend who works in fashion and he was like well i mean yeah he's definitely like a real like fashion designer but he's also sort of like he's like the one that everyone just sort of like laughs at and i was like okay that tracks that tracks i knew there had to be some catch so it all makes sense now that is what i learned from a single person in fashion yeah it's like fashion for miami

4:35Ronnie Karam: influencer types, you know. I mean, they have Lisa. They ask Lisa and Larsa to walk in it. So what more do we need to know about this Philip Klein man? I would never fit into it. I'll tell you that. I would not fit into any of it. That's what I know about Philip Klein. That's all I need to know. Yes. So this episode is three of season seven, episode three, and it's called The Worst Wedding Ever, which is something on Bravo that's quite a claim to make it's actually what's actually nice is that a lot of the wedding

5:12Ben Mandelker: episodes on bravo people are on generally good behavior like usually like we always think the wedding episodes will be crazy and chaotic but usually it's like they're they're pretty you know civilized affairs with like some small thing a little rent they may throw in there like cynthia's mom hiding like the what was it the what the marriage certificate or or whatever it was that

5:34Ronnie Karam: was a weird one and they got married in the dinosaur like yeah gallery museum or whatever that was pretty weird getting married in front of a skeleton especially when you're marrying peter

5:45Ben Mandelker: is just it's bad juju yeah exactly but this one was like legitimately um a terrible uh wedding reception because the fight was it wasn't just just that they were fighting it was like a loud water flinging fight i mean the sort of thing that like i would be mortified if i ever did that at someone's wedding really anywhere in in in public but especially at a wedding luckily it was like the third wedding for to the same couple so i was gonna say it's like the 70th wedding of marisol so it's okay yeah exactly so it's marisol and steve's wedding day

6:20Ronnie Karam: everybody she's getting ready for her third wedding to steve okay she's getting makeup done I'm getting nervous. Butterfly nervous. Dios mio. La mariposa is inside mi stomaco. Make it stop.

6:36Ben Mandelker: Yeah, I'm really excited about getting married for the 16th time on this show. Let's show a montage that should carry us through the 42 minutes. We can wrap up this episode. Look, there's me getting married on a mountaintop. There's me getting married at a miniature golf course. There's me getting married in line to see Final Destination Bloodlines. It's just a lot of weddings happening for me.

6:59Ronnie Karam: I'm like in heaven right now because Steve is an angel. Steve, aren't you an angel? He's like, yeah, I'm a fucking angel. So you see? Oh, God, Steve. So we see Mary Soule's wedding celebration, and she's now dressed in black wearing an eye patch. With a bedazzled dollar sign on it. And Steve is saying, here's to my beautiful and lovely wife. He's like, oh, no, I don't want anything to hex our wedding day. It has to be perfect.

7:31Ben Mandelker: Lightning strike. Women are sitting at the table and Gertie's saying, do you want to do this with a whole group of women? Do you want to do this? No, no, no. I am going to point in your face and scream at you. You're not going to be bruising, okay? You're not. Oh, yeah, but you're screaming like a hyena, a screaming hyena. Yes, a hyena. I am proud hyena who could eat goat but would never do such a thing.

7:52Ronnie Karam: And then Steve's just like Good lord, Dios mio Am I right, guys? Am I right? And Julie's like, I'm hyena I'm proud to be hyena Oh, really? Go sit down, hyena Go sit down Go sit You can sit on your words That's what you can do You know what hyenas do? They sit down on words

8:12Ben Mandelker: Oh my god This is the worst wedding party ever You can put that in the trailer, bravo Worst wedding party ever

8:20Ronnie Karam: soundbite three days earlier larsa's home so larsa's with preston in the kitchen and she's like preston do you like realize that you like walked in like philip like plines like fashion like show like in milan like like holy like shit like this is like huge like you're so lucky i let you take

8:37Ben Mandelker: my spot because he asked me first he asked me first you have to really like take advantage like of the advantage of your opportunity like and like i'm excited like for your journey like he's like yeah the journey is the reward yeah especially because it was my journey like that i gave up for your journey like and that was like really good like i need to post that on instagram that was like such a like a like inspirational thing i said about journey like i love going to journeys

9:01Ronnie Karam: i always get my sneakers they're like yeah she's a total journeys person from back in the day um by the way he did not make up the journey is the reward and it's so sad that someone who posts as much as on instagram as larza has never heard that before you're looking at the wrong threads Okay. Get off the butt bleach, you know, influencer threads. I feel bad now. The psychological, pop psychology threads. Why do you feel bad, Ben?

9:28Ben Mandelker: You know why? Because I started off the episode just shading Philip Pline, who is, you know, whether he's a laughingstock of fashion or not, he's still like doing it. And he obviously had like lots of people there. So he's successful. And you got this kid who got to go to Milan and walk in the show. and that's like so super cool and i'm sitting here being like it's whatever he's like not even a real designer like who the fuck am i to say that okay this is a little fashion from milan

9:56Ronnie Karam: gonna be a philip blind instagram uh influencer or what no it's not even that i just like philip being upset on the freeway listening to you this is no i don't care about philip blind i'm just

10:07Ben Mandelker: saying like this kid this is a cool thing for this kid and like you know we've seen kids in bravo like walk literally in fashion shows at the browns for posh and like oh my god i'm walking for posh and they think it's so cool and now there's like someone who actually gets to walk in milan fashion week with like legitimate people there and press and everything and i'm like whatever it's like not even cool i'm like you know what i'm gonna i'm gonna take a seat for myself i have decided

10:33Ronnie Karam: to put myself in timeout ben please be a better person this is watch what crappin so that's why people listen all right hold on one second good people having good opinions i'm not good people

10:45Ben Mandelker: all right guess what and you're a loser who walked for a loser fashion brand i'm back everyone

10:51Ronnie Karam: yeah i walked for hefty children's clothes at dillard's you know what did that make me a badass in my own head yes it did okay no one can ever take that away from me because i have the confidence of knowing that i was a chunky child model so suck it anybody who has anything to say the journey is the reward i came up with that in 1983 okay so three days earlier oh yeah we already did that okay so now we go to the beach and adriana is with her new man um she's probably renting let's be honest and she's like oh my god they were saying he's so nice he's so handsome that's all they're saying they're talking about you who else buddy come on i'm going topless now watch me walk into the ocean topless are you watching me are you watching me and he just looks at the camera like oh his teeth are kind of gritted like oh god it's like why did i do this now we're going to get paid up front so now martina and julia are in the kitchen and martina

11:52Ben Mandelker: is like whisking batter and julia's like are you making my scrambled eggs no i'm making banana bread for the boys oh look Martina is cooking more than I can say for Chris Everett anyway I can't talk while I'm doing this I need to focus must get grand slamming banana bread okay so you can't multitask no no I need to double everything must make banana bread Martina make bread when are you going to just memorize recipe what are you hyena and she's like stop talking to me one

12:25Ronnie Karam: teaspoon two tablespoons oh is it the other way i'm just a person trying to make banana bread so then we go to sea spice brazzly and lounge and it's alexia getting out of her white g-wagon which we now know is fake so she walks in with frankie and she's like oh my god frankie do you remember this place do you remember it can you still be in it even though you've been traumatized by being moved out of in front of

13:00Ben Mandelker: I brought you to see spies to ease the wounds so you know what I'd rather

13:06Ronnie Karam: I would rather that Frankie see spies and not see Todd moving

13:11Ben Mandelker: in front of so Alexia is like I'm here to see Mariam and by the way when she said Mariam I honestly I was like oh it's finally happening we are going to finally meet the new housewife but no like this is what fifth episode i mean next week we know we're meeting her but i was like it's i was like uh hello when can we get the new housewife but also just goes to show how stacked this cast is that like they just have to get through all this drama before they can introduce someone new yet so she goes upstairs to see mariam the owner of c spice not to be confused with ice spice and mariam's like alexia Oh, God, you look lovely, my darling.

13:48Ben Mandelker: Oh, yeah, media, que lindo. I love what you're doing here. I'm so happy we're going to do this for free, right? It's all for free, right? This is for free.

13:55Ronnie Karam: This is so crazy. It looks like a boat, a free boat. So I want to have a surprise celebration for Marisol and Steve because they're finally going to get officially legally married because they've been, like, married before, but not, like, legally. They did it in a drive-thru of a Sonic Burger once because they like the ice, you know? They like the little crumbly ice, which I don't blame them, you know? That's good ice. but I was like, you should do it someplace else, you know? So they did a little golf course once, but, you know, but I don't like doing that. So they don't have drinks there. So I said, do it there.

14:26Ronnie Karam: It looks like a boat.

14:28Ben Mandelker: So they did it there. Then they went to Tilly's, did it again. It's been a fun journey for them. So Alexia is saying that this could be a big surprise. Okay. She goes, Oh, Oh my God. So many good memories in this bar. Remember all the good memories. This is where I met Todd. and then I think Alexia was trying to cue up some sort of like flashback sequence. Alright producers show us how we're in love. Show how the star is in love with Todd. Do it. No? Okay.

14:56Ronnie Karam: Alexia who hates making things about herself is like you know what I'm gonna throw the wedding party for my best friend in the place that I met Todd so I can say oh my god I'm so happy for you but this is where I met Todd. This is where I met him. You guys keep me strong keep me strong okay

15:16Ben Mandelker: I think I picked Sea Spice because like I'm a masochist and I like to torture myself holding on to those memories with Toad. But like I've also had like a lot of money and naughty nights with Marisol at Sea Spice, by the way. And oh, well, you know, Peter, he also comes here because he's an artist and this is a place for artists. So like a lot of memories and masochism here.

15:32Ronnie Karam: So Miriam's like, oh, my God, I always tell everybody my yacht's bigger than your yacht because it looks like a yacht in here. Right. And then you have the beautiful downtown skyline. Look at that. And sometimes I tell people like, hey, hey, my downtown is bigger than your downtown because, like, I got downtown on my window. Am I right? It's, like, crazy, you guys.

15:50Ben Mandelker: My downtown brings all the boys to the yard. Am I right? And Alexia's like, oh, this view, this is perfect for Marisol. I mean, I am so glad that Marisol is going to get to stand here and look with both of her eyes at this beautiful view. So we see the view.

16:05Ronnie Karam: You know what's going to make this great, perfect for Marisol? Depth perception.

16:11Ben Mandelker: being able to really see how far away she is from all the buildings and how far away all the buildings are from each other it's just really going to be so wonderful for her so the tables

16:19Ronnie Karam: are in the shape of surfboards she's like oh my god i get it because it's like a boat that's so funny that is so funny a yacht that carries surfboards it's like being on a yacht and all the passengers are surfboards it totally makes sense so she's like well this is great because i've never been to one of her weddings like whether it's the first one or the 19th one Like I need to celebrate her. Okay. Because like I've never seen a wedding. Okay. They've always happened outside, outside of my eyesight. So we see her weddings passed and Stephen Marysola at their Mexican wedding. Then a clip of Marysola in a black evening gown, a Stephen, some Scottish castle.

16:56Ronnie Karam: And they didn't even go over the other weddings on the show. Do you remember that one in her first year where she's like, I'm marrying this guy. We're so in love. We're going to get married on us on, on the Alps. I just want to get married. Didn't they get married? There's like this random guy.

17:12Ben Mandelker: I'm pretty sure it was the same guy that Adriana just went on a date with to the beach. Like they looked exactly the same if memory serves. And they went all the way up to the top of that mountain and they were freezing and the priest was there and he was freezing. And I was just like, what is happening here? It was a whole storyline. It was a whole thing. And I remember every time we had to stop and do that storyline, it was the worst thing ever. It was a lot.

17:32Ronnie Karam: Because Marisol was very different back then. In the original run of the show, Mary's Soul was nothing like she is now. She came up with this personality for this show, like this persona. And it's so funny. But back then, she was really boring and mousy and never said anything.

17:46Ben Mandelker: And she was, like, very serious. And she would be, like, always about to cry. And, like, she was actually, like, terrible casting choice back then. Yeah. But she basically was kept around because her mom was so entertaining. Yeah.

17:58Ronnie Karam: And then she kind of stole her mom's personality. And she's made it work. You know? Yeah. Much so. Sometimes it just takes a decade, you know? Yeah. So then we see a flashback of five months earlier because Alexia's like, oh, my God, it's been so hard. Am I right, Frankie? Don't make Frankie talk about it. He's very traumatized. And Frankie's like, yeah, it's hard. Mommy, please don't cry. And she's like, oh, my God, I got to help it, Frankie. Because you know why? Because we're on the boat, like where I met C Spice Todd. Oh, my God.

18:31Ben Mandelker: Oh, Mary, let me tell you something like this because I want to tell you something. This is so difficult. The last thing I want is for Frankie to have to live this all over again. But I got home and everything was missing and he had moved him and all his daughter out. And he even took the shampoo from the bathtub in front of Frankie, right there in front of Frankie. And Frankie's like, oh, and Julia, I guess Julia's there. She's like, oh no. Oh, because it's a flashback. It took everything.

18:53Ronnie Karam: And Frankie's like, yeah, Todd, don't mind me. And she's like, well, you know who's missing out? It's not you, it's Todd. And she's like, oh my God, did you know it's so hard because like thank god i have like frankie because he's like my angel like does he stop furniture from being carried out of the house no not really but you know like does frankie like make sure that my shampoo is stolen from the bathroom no not really by the way frankie why didn't you stop him from stealing my shampoo from the bathroom you know how expensive my shampoo was oh my god

19:24Ben Mandelker: frankie knows what's going on just because he can't express himself the way a lot of us can express ourselves like for instance the way i express myself so well you know his comprehension is there and he's very intuitive okay so like for instance when he felt like the shampoo was missing he went to the bathroom and guess what he was missing he was taken yeah you know listen here's

19:42Ronnie Karam: who knows about it larsa gertie julia kiki they all know about it except lisa but you know what lisa doesn't answer her phone okay so how is lisa gonna know you know what i mean lisa didn't even say oh my god your hair doesn't smell like strawberries today i mean come on lisa like

19:57Ben Mandelker: are we friends or not you know so you know what let's call lisa why don't we call lisa right now and see what happens. I'm sure it'll be a good phone call.

20:04Ronnie Karam: Lisa's like, hello? Oh my God, I'm calling you because I wanted to invite you to Marisol and Steve's wedding. Did you know they're getting married again? I mean, I hope I have shampoo.

20:12Ben Mandelker: And so Lisa goes, I'm in Canada right now. And Alexia goes, oh my God, don't tell me your father passed away. Who says that? Oh my God, please don't tell me your father died. I don't know why.

20:28Ronnie Karam: This is how they are on this show

20:30Ben Mandelker: every time they get this.

20:31Ronnie Karam: Don't tell me your father Bats away

20:35Ben Mandelker: Imagine she said No no he's fine It's just one of those things I kind of feel like it's up for Lisa To be the one to say it It's funny

20:46Ronnie Karam: Oh my god no And then she slams her phone on the table Why are you hitting your phone on the table

20:53Ben Mandelker: And only this How is it that this show Two times in a row How is it that this show manages to have a wedding and a funeral at the same time. Like, this is the second time it's happened.

21:05Ronnie Karam: Oh, that's true. Yeah. And it just magically happens, too.

21:10Ben Mandelker: The show is wild, I'm telling you. It's wild.

21:13Ronnie Karam: She's like, oh my God, I'm so sorry. She goes, yeah, well, he was unconscious, so I didn't even get to have a moment with him. I still got some selfies, you know. But, you know, it's rough. She goes, oh my God, it's so rough. She goes, yeah. Well, just know that he's in heaven right now, and he's watching you. And he's saying, why aren't you on a boat right now? That's a restaurant. And oh my God, is that a restaurant? Does it float? You know? Oh my God, I recognize this restaurant. It's the boat that Alexa met on. Oh my God. Tell your father, thank you for thinking of me. Oh.

21:46Ben Mandelker: And if he sees any narcs there in heaven, I want him to say to them, good, I'm glad you're dead because you all should die.

21:53Ronnie Karam: I wonder if she even understands that means narcissism because Alexia has been against narcs since her first marriage.

22:02Ben Mandelker: It did really drive me crazy that Marisol was like, it's another narc. It's like, narc is a different thing. It's a different thing, Marisol.

22:12Ronnie Karam: It's a different thing in Miami, for sure.

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23:57Ronnie Karam: Light your candles, draw your pentagrams, and prepare for a supreme surprise. FX's American Horror Story 13, now streaming on Hulu. We go to Mary Sol's house and she's getting her makeup done. And she's like, all right, you know what? Some people call this getting their makeup done. Some of us call it re-adobing the front of the house. You know what I'm saying? Go ahead, mix the cement. You've got to mix it first. Don't just put it on my face. It'll clump up. Dios mio. Get this back already. Just put a cactus in front of me in a mailbox and I'll be a house. All right. Well, I'm just so nervous today, guys.

24:39Ronnie Karam: It's like for reals. It's for reals.

24:43Ben Mandelker: you know this wedding's gonna be good because i just talked to my numerologist kelly flashback flashback so i had a couple of friends that lived here kelly and we were all hanging out by the pool and some guy comes to look at the house some guy am i right and there's a thief over here that's what i'm trying to say kelly come on keep up kelly so i guess i left my swimsuit at the pool and then my friend calls me and says hey the new owner found your swimsuit you following kelly and the next thing i tell him he got a text about the swimsuit he's like come on soon like why don't You come on Friday, come Friday night.

25:11Ben Mandelker: And then I didn't have to leave for three days. So, okay. So since you're a numerologist, what does swimsuit plus swimsuit plus new house mean?

25:18Ronnie Karam: This is a wild story. So she sold her house to Steve, left her bathing suit, went back to the house to pick it up and fuck Steve at her house and then stayed there. Just like, it's just like, I never laughed. Literally.

25:33Ben Mandelker: I just felt like the numerologist was like, so I deal with numbers and this story. I can't do anything with. Why are you telling me this?

25:42Ronnie Karam: So they're picking their perfect outfit to wear on the motorcycle because they're going to ride the motorcycle to City Hall. And she's like, we're real nervous because there's a lot of money on the line between the two of us.

25:57Ben Mandelker: You know, we're nervous. Yeah, a lot of money. And oh, God, by the way, did you find out Lisa's father passed away? Oh, it's terrible. But she's going to bury him with a Philip Lines on glass. So it'll be nice. anyway i don't know what happened i just heard he'd been in the icu by the way i not only do i see you i see spice we should go back to see spice someday anyway i just was so weird just sitting there getting married at least he's gonna bury her father i mean what are we two seasons ago okay life is quite the cycle speaking of cycles bring down on that bike of yours or what come on now

26:28Ronnie Karam: so they take the hog down to city hall and she's like i've ridden this hog before but not as not the orange one. I'm going to cry. This is cereal. Okay. This is sadio. Oh my God. I'm so nervous. And he's like, don't cry. You're too pretty. Life is short, especially for us. Am I right? So, you know, that's what we're doing. You know, it's just like, just when mom and dad could be with me. And then we see a clip of her mom just being like, do not marry stupid people.

27:01Ben Mandelker: and we also see her dad who i forgot that we ever met and uh marisol's like look when they couldn't speak for themselves or take care of themselves they had me and my brothers but i don't have any children so steve and i decide without what we need to do is we need to be able to access each other's funds and maybe their children you want to call me mom no okay and take care of each other protect each other make decisions for each other because right we know we're going to be together forever, at least another season or two. So that's just something we need to do. That's legal in the state of Florida.

27:31Ben Mandelker: Florida, Florida, Florida, am I right? So just don't go too fast because I'm a first time around this hog. I mean, not first time on a hog in general, like your dick. So you're keeping up, Steve, you know what I'm saying here?

27:42Ronnie Karam: So they get married and then they ride around on their motorcycle with her wedding veil. So romantic.

27:51Ben Mandelker: You know what's crazy? I actually really enjoyed this entire sequence. I couldn't believe it I was like, it's another Marisol wedding. It's a stupid thing. It's sentimental. I actually really liked it. I like in a weird way. I really liked that they found each other. They had this low key sort of situation with the motorcycle and they just thinking about like, listen, we're getting old. We need someone to look after each other. We need to do this. I don't know. I kind of got me a little bit.

28:14Ronnie Karam: Hmm. Well, I did appreciate that. They did the third wedding right. And didn't force everybody into hell. You know what I mean? Like she didn't do that. Oh my God. I'm going to have a big TV wedding. And then we have to do a whole thing. It has to be a whole season. And then everybody has to do it. And then we have this. A story. I'm glad it's just like we're doing it at City Hall. We're doing it for each other's money. The end. I thought it was lovely. On like Philip Blind's fashion show. Yeah. I'm not sure who. Did you just read a comment or something? Like Ben's mean. No. No. You know what I love?

28:54Ronnie Karam: life, people, the elderly. I love dolphins. You guys, I've adopted a dolphin. It's a Miami dolphin. This good person Thursday, bring back my husband. No, I got sentimental.

29:14Ben Mandelker: I got sentimental with their little wedding thing. I don't know, for some reason. When she said, you know, life is short and we're on the other side where life is shorter. I was like, hmm. And then when she, I don't know, I got like sentimental over it. So what can I say? What can I say? I'm feeling sort of nice today.

29:34Ronnie Karam: Well, I've got a place you can go to the Love Life Cafe.

29:38Ben Mandelker: That's you today. You're like, you know what? I love life.

29:41Ronnie Karam: I'm at the Love Life Cafe today.

29:42Ben Mandelker: I love life. I love life. You know what I love more than life? Seeing Spice. See Spice. See Spice? See Spice. The right one that looks like a yacht.

29:51Ronnie Karam: Adriana comes in and orders from the barista and she's like, what kind of milk would you like? And she's like, um, skim, skim milk. And she goes, uh, oat milk? And she goes, no, regular skim, like skim milk, like from a skinny cow, you know, don't give me fat cow milk. And she's like, um, we are a vegan restaurant. She goes, oh God.

30:11Ben Mandelker: Because when she said skim milk and the lady goes oat milk, I was like, oh my God, are we in Los Angeles? But then it turns out that it was Adriana. know what skim milk was she was like what huh skin so uh yeah that is a skim yeah adriana is like mainly vegetarian but she loves i love a good french sausage dating french man now did you hear so uh and then she goes and then in case you didn't get the joke the first time she's like i can't stop liking french blood sausage okay all right we're like i can't help but love french penis erection sausage okay okay um could i have a coffee with wiener sausage thank you

30:54Ronnie Karam: i love french wiener sausage is only penis cock sausage coffee okay

30:59Ben Mandelker: will there be foam on that extra cream so julia arrives oh look at you are you texting boyfriend or goat she goes no it's actually my car insurance

31:17Ronnie Karam: i didn't even clock that when i saw it that made me laugh so hard she's like no actually it's my car insurance she's like oh

31:28Ronnie Karam: so there's like oh it's a long summer and she's like yes long summer and you didn't call me just well you can pick up the phone too and call me too and she's like well of course i can but But you know, I was like, why isn't she calling me? You know, I miss my friend. Everybody's calling me. How's the boys? What's happened with the boys? Congrats on the boys. You got boys. You have boys now. Hello. She's like, wow.

31:52Ben Mandelker: They're all saying things like, congrats on finding boys. Now you can act like total lunatic because you don't have to be worried about the adoption process anymore. I said, oh, thank you very much for the tip.

32:02Ronnie Karam: Well, you know, I was very upset that you didn't tell me before everyone else to tell you the truth. And then we see Julia's Zoom call when she's telling everybody. Was Adriana even on that call?

32:16Ben Mandelker: I think she was. I don't know. You know, Adriana, she does not like to not be first.

32:23Ronnie Karam: Well, that is weird that she's like going through the process with you and helping you. and she brought you onto this show and you're her best friend and you don't even call her. That's weird.

32:32Ben Mandelker: It's like six people beat her to the tweet. So Adriana is like, she's like, well, I mean, Alexia already saw the boy. So maybe I was a little resentful. And I think she's actually being very honest and upfront. Like, yeah, I was being petty. I was resentful. You know, you're my best friend. And we see flashbacks to their friendship. And she's like, I feel a little disappointed because since I've been through her with process, you know, I would have thought she told me privately, but she didn't. So Julia's like, you know, I probably should have told you before, you know. But Adriana is basically saying she feels a distance because Julia is getting closer to Alexi and Marisol.

33:09Ronnie Karam: Yeah, she's like, well, I have something to ask you. I want to have a boy shower for you and the boys. It's like a normal shower, but there's French sausages there. So I thought that would be good. And it's like, oh, my God, this is so sweet. This is good. Let us hold hands now. and let me just tell you, you are the seventh best friend to me in this group. So thank you so much. Thank you.

33:34Ben Mandelker: So now we go to Stretch Lab and Kiki and Gertie have arrived to get stretched and Gertie's like, oh, who's wanted to get stretched? I'm with the troublemaker over here. Oh, we're going to stretch. We're going to goodify the stretches. And so they stretch and it's like wild and crazy.

33:50Ronnie Karam: Wacky, wacky stretching scene. and so now they're doing the talking portion and Kiki is like, well, listen. So Gertie's like, did that feel good? Oh my God, did you pat the puss? Oh my God, girl, bye. What are you, patting the puss while you're stretching? Oh my God, goodbye. That is too much for me. Like, I'm gonna sit down. You should sit down. Everybody should sit down because this girl's a lot, okay? Did you see how this girl stretched? Did you see it? That was like crazy. That's a lot, girl. Oh my God.

34:22Ben Mandelker: Yeah. And so the big thing with Gertie is that even though she's gotten through cancer, she is still carrying a lot of baggage from it. She's really insecure about her body now. And she's just trying to get things like the way she wants it and get through it, etc. And so she's here getting, you know, stretching and yada, yada, yada. so then Gertie and Kiki are talking and Gertie's Gertie's saying that Alexia was really great all summer she was checking in like every day on how Gertie was doing and Kiki's like oh because Alexia decided to put like a girls night to dinner a couple days ago and you weren't invited basically she's like yeah so this person who was checking on you did not allow you to come to the dinner that was all about Johnny that was all about Alexia

35:10Ronnie Karam: yeah she's like and part of the problem some of the ladies are having with you is that Gertie comes across as like she's too much, like extra, you know, like maybe she's this or she's that or she's this or she's that or she's that or she's this. Do you understand what I'm saying? And Gertie's like, huh? Me? Extra? Okay. Hold on. Let me think about that. Hmm. Hmm. Me? Hmm. And then we cut back to Adriana and Julia talking and so julia's like well what have you been up to it's like well actually i met with gertie and lisa and gertie was saying how things aren't good between you and her and then uh adriana is like yeah she doesn't understand what she's done to you oh she makes it about herself that is her emma and you know what i have no time for that i have no time for it no i have no time because

36:00Ben Mandelker: i have children now and it is important for everyone to realize i have children and whatever you're doing, please stop and acknowledge the fact that I have children. One of my favorite things on reality TV, especially on The Real Housewives, is when people accuse each other of making something about themselves. Because always the implication is, I wanted to make this about me, and you made it about you. And I can't believe you would make something about you, because I'm the only one who's allowed to make it about me. That's always what it's about. And Julia, that's what Julia is doing. She's like, you didn't come onto my Zoom when I wanted to make a big announcement, and that was supposed to be my moment, and you didn't honor it, and you tried to make it about you and it's like okay so you're all just going in circles and by the way is gertie totally extra absolutely is everyone else on this cast absolutely she's no different than anyone else alexia was just screaming and bawling in a restaurant last week and this week they should all die they should all die literally every week that she's ever been on

36:57Ronnie Karam: this show she's sobbing and crying so kiki's like well julia said she had a problem with you something on a cruise and you try to get attention she's like oh well apparently my good friend julia has been talking about me behind my back and so julia tells the story she's like well okay a few months back martina and i were invited to fabulous cruise and unfortunately martina got a little health scare so she chose to stay home and i called gertie and so gertie sighed she's like and then i get a call from julia who says oh my god i need your help please go with me please Martina can do it I need you I need you oh my god please I'm dying please come on the cruise please I'm dying do it.

37:38Ben Mandelker: And she said would you like me to come with you? Yes and she asked me to come because she was distraught and needed emotional support I said I will go to fight this cruise so I went to sit on the cruise to support a friend it's the basics of it all.

37:52Ronnie Karam: And then she'd make it all about herself, the connection she would make, the picture she would take, and she'd never say, Julia, how are you? How is Martina? Not once, not once on cruise.

38:06Ben Mandelker: There were lots of things on this boat cruise, and I gave Gerdy many chances, and then I seen with my own eyes how she acted with others, I just felt uncomfortable in her company, and next time the person I bring onto the cruise will be goat.

38:22Ronnie Karam: I think Gertie, I love Gertie Turner phrases. She goes, I don't know what's her deal, but trust you be me. Whatever she's saying out there, it ain't what it ain't.

38:35Ronnie Karam: I'm like, not one of that, not one section of that made any sense. And I fucking loved it. I was like, can we just narrate everything in my life? Listen, trust you be me.

38:49Ben Mandelker: I ain't what I ain't.

38:51Ronnie Karam: It ain't what it ain't.

38:52Ben Mandelker: It ain't what it ain't. It's almost Popeye. Also, by the way, I just want to point out, Gertie actually has a job in a company and Julia doesn't. And so Gertie going onto a cruise and trying to get clients for her party planning business, I don't think that's outrageous. I think that's actually something that you should be proud of and supporting because she's networking and trying to actually do something with her life.

39:13Ronnie Karam: Well, what makes it even more ridiculous is that we find out later that this is a Captain Sandy cruise.

39:21Ben Mandelker: It's Captain Sandy.

39:23Ronnie Karam: Yeah, it's like one of those Captain Sandy appearance things where people go pay to get a picture with like a women empowerment cruise or whatever that they were invited to go on. Captain Sandy's inviting them because they're Bravo liberties who will put it on their Instagram. And the whole thing is about taking pictures and putting it on your fucking gram. That's what the whole event is. So to be mad that she's doing that, especially as a real housewife who married a celebrity named Martina is ridiculous.

39:53Ben Mandelker: Yeah. And Gertie has a very strong point about this, but I will wait for her to make it later on. But Gertie kind of in my mind comes up with the strongest, strongest, strongest point of all that I think is totally there's just no way that that Julia can even counter it, which is why she ultimately throws a glass of water on her, I think. so um julia's like it was cruise we stay in beautiful suite she gets all martina's messages and all the lunches and i'm sorry all martina's massages not messages and all the lunches and all the dinner and she got complimentary dvd set of some tv show called wind i don't understand but except this one dinner where martina was about to go and because she didn't go the person removed her from from guest list and gertie threw such a fit at me like yeah because if you invite your friend to go on to a cruise and then you go to a dinner and you leave your friend behind and your friend just has to go to some other restaurant that's absolutely obnoxious and you should know better you say if my friend isn't on the list then i'm not going to this dinner and not like see you later have fun like they all you can eat shrimp next to bob from iowa yeah and she's like well

40:59Ronnie Karam: it's weird i'm on a cruise for you but then you switch it up on me and you tell me to go to a restaurant over there which by the way they didn't even have my reservation and then like i'm a sea feller so i feel less than and now she has the nerve to say i betrayed her come on julia's like trying to ruin my life like to talk shit about me and like they don't want me to be they don't she doesn't want them to be on my side and that is bizarre it is bizarre and kiki's like okay but you need to tone it down you know because i'm your friend and you gotta listen to me like maybe tone it down because they don't like you being extra.

41:32Ronnie Karam: Okay, Kiki, out of all the people on this cast, you're going to sit down and tell her she's being you carry hamburgers in your purse. You your favorite whip out in every scene is a dildo or a vibrator. I mean, give me a break. So she's like, you're just too extra. There is nothing wrong with my personality. And so Kiki's like Thera gunning her own head she's like oh my god i'm just trying to help this lady maybe i could do it with the

42:02Ben Mandelker: theragun to my head we are going to work through the weeds and pick them out because i don't have time for hypocrisy now let's also say that do i gertie is also painting herself as this person who's like well you know there wasn't room for me at the restaurant so i went to a different restaurant and i sat there politely you know gertie also had probably some meltdowns as well Like, you know, these are two real housewives and like a Gertie is not known for being chill all the time either. So I'm sure there was like, it's not all Gertie. What Gertie said was exactly how it went. But I kind of feel like regardless of how people acted, I think if we, what we know is that there was a dinner, that there was no seat for Gertie and Julia went to the dinner anyway.

42:45Ben Mandelker: I think that's just totally shitty. And she should not have done that to her friend. Even if her friend was having a meltdown outside, you should support your friend in that moment.

42:51Ronnie Karam: But then to just dump your friend is crazy, too. Like, to just dump her after and then try and have her excluded from everything is really shitty, you know?

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45:03Ronnie Karam: New members can start listening with a 30-day free trial at audible.com slash WWC. So then we go to Canada where Lisa has, you know, a sad scene about her dad and stuff. And, you know, we see Jodi had photos of the dad. And she's saying, like, even though she was late to making up with her dad, she's glad that she did. You know, and you should always make up with your dad. So then we go to the Museum of Ice Cream and Kiki's there with her daughter, Summer, and her mother, who's so cute. And is her mother's name Gurleen? I love that. I think so.

45:42Ben Mandelker: B-U-I-R-L-E-N-E. Gurlen, maybe. I'm not sure how you actually pronounce that. But, yeah, her mom has this nice sort of like outfit on and everything. And the daughter, Summer, is just like running through. and all that Summer wants in life, much like me, to be honest, is chocolate ice cream. And like, they keep on offering her ice cream around every corner of this museum. And she's like, No chocolate.

46:07Ronnie Karam: Like, do you want a banana? No chocolate. Okay, would you like to try this beautiful sorbet? No chocolate. Chocolate. No chocolate.

46:16Ben Mandelker: Hello, little girl. We've got something special for you. Just on time for this. No chocolate.

46:22Ronnie Karam: And every room's like a different theme. It's this crazy place. and she just keeps going into every room. They offer her something different and it's never chocolate. She's just like, can I get some fucking chocolate?

46:32Ben Mandelker: Yeah, how did they not have chocolate during any of this experience?

46:36Ronnie Karam: I got a bread to get some chocolate in this place. Like, oh, no. So we've got mango, banana, kiwi, sorbete, no chocolate. So then we talk about Kiki and her mom end up sitting down and talking about Kiki's father, right? so the mom's like you know um are you going to talk to your dad she's like um i don't know like i mean look i understand you did everything to make sure that i have an okay relationship with my dad and he's coming from haiti so i'm making a plan to see if i can pick him up from the airport or something just no you need to be he's a father and no matter what he might have done he's always going to be a father and she's like he kicked me out mom when i was 15.

47:20Ronnie Karam: she's like and truly you

47:21Ben Mandelker: by the way yeah yeah and she's like and also he he treated you like crap too mom and she's like yeah that's true but whatever still your father still your father and basically the mom is like i don't care really what he did and what he didn't do but he's still your father i don't care so she's just like you have to have that you must must must have that bond no matter how much

47:42Ronnie Karam: he is yeah and kiki's like well after years of not speaking to him now he's reaching out to me which yeah of course because he wants you to take care of his ass now you're on tv and he's getting old and so now he wants someone to take care of him and you should do exactly what he did to you and ignore him and pretend he's dead absolutely that's what i say i don't care if people are your family they don't have the right to treat you like that that's ridiculous boundary correct

48:08Ben Mandelker: um so yeah basically but then kiki is saying that like you know her daughter doesn't really know her grandfather and she does think it's important for her daughter to have a grandfather so she's considering bringing it all together so it's basically back-to-back scenes about daughters and fathers and um what you owe to those relationships and how how much a of a toxic relationship should you let back into your life it's interesting and now it's over so now we go over to marisol's wedding celebration and oh alexis at sea spice hello oh my god oh okay lindo So what, okay, this is beautiful. Sea Spice, this is like the biggest yacht I've ever seen.

48:47Ben Mandelker: And so then we see, you know, all the decorations. It's really nice. And then there's like families that's there. Marisol's brother, Tommy, who I don't know if we ever met Tommy back in the first few seasons. I don't remember him, but it's wild because like I never would have thought they were a brother and sister.

49:05Ronnie Karam: Well, I mean, Marisol doesn't look like anybody in the family anymore, you know. So Mary Saul come Wait, is Mary Saul there yet? No, not yet So Lars is like, oh my god, Alexi I haven't seen you since the trip It was so good So what's going on with you and Todd? Are things better? Are things worse? Oh my god, last week I had a breakdown And by last week I meant earlier today But also last week too And the week before that Oh my god, did I tell you that Todd moved out in front of Frankie? He's like, you told me like

49:39Ben Mandelker: yeah like okay all right so like let's remember that let's like go over that again Todd moved out in front of Frankie just wanted to get that in there one more time so like I'm in like emotional limbo and you know like that you know I got like that 13 day notice that's so crazy like and you have to make a decision though right she's like I mean he kind of does like you know the ball's really more in his court and she's like is Lexia losing her memory like Todd is not that great like he's like not even hot like I don't even think that like I could be waiting for my husband to tell me if we're staying together or breaking up with me to me that's like a deal breaker in itself like i'm like isn't first season back in the reboot you sitting around waiting for scotty to sign divorce papers literally you waiting for him to

50:16Ronnie Karam: say whether or not this is over oh yeah i guess so huh i forgot that so she's like oh my god like stop like letting him like control like your heart like it's like danger like the us and so she's like oh my god uh so people start arriving and um julia comes with the bouquet everyone's wearing white and they're just saying hi and all that good stuff. So then they start talking about Gertie and Larsa's like, is anyone coming besides Mary's or like? And they say Gertie and Kiki's like, speaking of Gertie, she feels like Julia's brainwashing you guys and Julia's like, oh, oh, oh, is she threatened of me?

50:53Ronnie Karam: Is she threatened of me? This is what she said to me? Oh, really? Oh, really?

50:59Ben Mandelker: So Gertie walks up and she's like, hello, I'm here to party, honey. I'm here to party. and she uh says hi to julia and she's like oh look at you julia you look just like a friend i used to know how are you oh oh really okay so do you so do you julia with the epic comebacks oh so do you so gertie is like yeah julia's playing betty boop

51:24Ronnie Karam: like oh oh kiss kiss kiss you know i'm watching and i'm ready boop i'm ready bring it on boop I've always wanted to beat the shit out of Betty Boop. Bring it. Bring it to me.

51:36Ben Mandelker: So now Marisol, now she has this eye patch on with the money sign on it. And they're riding in a cab or in a car to this thing. And Marisol, she just thinks it's like a little family dinner. And she says, you know, people wake up with a lot of different things. We are dudes. My clothes are on the floor. Sometimes you might wake up. There's a parent in your room because I left the window open. maybe an iguana crazy shit i woke up with a stye that was a big wind up just to say i've got a

52:06Ronnie Karam: stye and steve's kids are there saying oh it's a family dinner call me mommy it'll be hilarious am i your mommy now call me your mommy

52:20Ben Mandelker: no one even tries to by the way no one even tries to surprise marisol because she now arrives and she walks up the stairs. She goes, oh, it's like a lot of people here. And they're like, should we surprise her? No, she'll just let her walk in. Yeah.

52:36Ronnie Karam: Well, Marisol's going to get here and there's no more food. We did that on purpose. Marisol does not like food. She gets very offended. So she's like, oh my God, it's so hard to see what this past. Gosh, your mommy's half blind. So they kind of half surprise her. And Kiki's like, oh my God, she has one eye. She's a pirate. Why is she a pirate? Yeah. Why is she like a pirate like?

53:01Ben Mandelker: Yeah, like why is she a pirate? Like a pirate like XYZ like. Why are you doing that like? What happened to your eye, Marisol? What did Steve do to you last night? Is it Halloween already like? I didn't realize it was a costume party like. I'm like, Marisol, you're wearing a flesh mask right now. You're always in costume.

53:17Ronnie Karam: You look like you're in Mission Impossible right now. You're like Tom Cruise's fifth mask lair, you know?

53:23Ben Mandelker: It's like Tom Cruise when he's just putting the fingers right under the chin about to take it off. So there's like a little bit of ripple under it. Yes.

53:31Ronnie Karam: Oh, Alexia really nailed the guest list. I mean, I'm just so happy she forgot someone's number. Her name rhymes with an A. If you don't know who I'm talking about, blood sausages from France.

53:44Ben Mandelker: Okay. So, all right. Hey, okay. Hey, kids, let's try this again. You want to call me mommy? Anyone? Okay, waiter, do you want to call me? Someone, for crying out loud, call me mommy. I mean, I put this whole eye patch on and everything. Come on, can I get a little bit of sympathy around here?

54:01Ronnie Karam: Steve's like, we can do step mommy maybe. And she goes, oh, step mommy? Yeah, why don't you guys call her ma? And she goes, ma, what do I, fat old hillbilly? Come on, cheese.

54:12Ben Mandelker: Funny story, everyone. When I woke up this morning, Steve always wakes me up and gives me kisses. But this morning he goes, I love you, wifey. And I was like, aw. And he goes, you got a big fucking sty in your eye. And I said, well, get me a patch, okay? great story guys right okay my day so she's talking to tommy her brother and she's like

54:29Ronnie Karam: oh there's this pirate patch is what i'm channeling dad am i right because oh yo uh yeah my dad had the same growly voice as a pirate right do you think that steve looks like dad huh and tommy's like well he's not nearly as mean as dad that's for sure it's like wow we're having like a sensitive our dads are dead let's like be sensitive to this story sir it's like fuck that Am I right?

54:54Ben Mandelker: Marisol's like, okay, awkward. Do I have another eye patch to pump the other one so I can get out of here?

54:59Ronnie Karam: He's like, we're up to piss, Dad.

55:03Ben Mandelker: So the good thing is that Marisol, not only is she getting married today, but she's learning a little bit of empathy. Because as she walks to the table to sit with the girls, she's like, well, I have a new respect for people who lost an eye. I mean, this is very constricting. This is like when Tyra Banks put on the fat suit. Like, wow, you never know until you walk in someone else's shoes.

55:22Ronnie Karam: So Kiki asked about Milan and Larsa Yeah but like we were like having a conversation about my ex And I was like I don't want blogs to say like my friend is like hanging out like with my ex Like when he's like publicly like bashing like me Like that doesn't like make me like feel good like you know what I mean Like and then like I want this like person out of my life like And like Lisa's my friend so like you guys break up and like I'll never speak to you again No offense okay But like my loyalty is to Lisa so like that really bothered him and then we got along but then like in the end he like got really mad at us and he got like super furious and like oh my god he got so mad like so crazy like and julia goes how big were his eyeballs

56:05Ben Mandelker: i'm gonna show you a photo of his eyeballs like i just wish that like judge fabulous were still here so i could enter this into evidence like so she pulls out the phone and she shows everyone this photo and they're like oh and we see a close-up of the photo i agree with the second

56:22Ronnie Karam: camp i have to say you know i love finding cokie eyes and we know he's probably a big coke head because of his ac episode last episode or whatever but he does just kind of look like that anyway

56:32Ben Mandelker: only he's kind of a crazy-eyed person i mean we see a shot of we we do see him i think again in the episode or I don't know, but I remember looking at his eyes and his eyes are not normally as open as that. And at least in the next shot that I saw of him, or maybe I went back, but his eyelids were sort of like more normally like at like Dave from Garfield level. But, um, so his eyes were definitely very big, but I didn't think it was necessarily like a damning photo. I was like, it could just be like a flash went off. Like, yeah.

57:04Ronnie Karam: But if it's to the point where all of your friends are like oh my god what were his eyeballs like then that means like that's bad when he's got that reputation that in a in a town that's built on coke everybody it's like oh my god

57:17Ben Mandelker: what was eyeballs true thanks like kiki kiki's like i mean i've seen jody's eyes looking crazy before but this was a special crazy so i guess like there there's something to be like if you're landing on kiki's crazy eye radar that's not nothing but i kind of agree with alexia who's like, girl, those are Jordy's

57:36Ronnie Karam: eyes. That's how they look.

57:40Ben Mandelker: He looks completely normal to me. And Jordy's like, that could have been a flash issue. I mean, sometimes the flash is, you know, I mean, it blinds your eyes and you're like, ha, ha, ha, especially if you, like, all the photographers are following you because you're the real celebrity there. But then somehow you don't have a seat at the dinner. So then Lars is just mad and trying to be petty, ultimately. And she's basically

58:02Ronnie Karam: saying, like, listen, he's like controlling that guy's like controlling of Lisa and she's like I love him though and I was like no because he's like controlling like I'm concerned about her because like I think he wants her money like

58:15Ben Mandelker: everyone's like what money is that again? he's like her dad's money?

58:19Ronnie Karam: did her dad have money? and she goes but like access you know because like she'll never even get on a like call these days like like a business call without him on the phone and then we see a flashback where Jody's like in the limo Jody's like um you know you didn't sign that deal properly you need to send those deals to me because you're like missing stuff and said okay you're right but maybe he's just helping her because she's lisa you know what i mean totally inept she is not i'm

58:45Ben Mandelker: sorry people seem to forget you your their own storylines on the shows lisa got with jody because jody is the one with money didn't last year they were they were saying that she was only with him

58:55Ronnie Karam: for his money and this year they're like he's using her for her money so he doesn't really have money

59:01Ben Mandelker: um so like she she's that's why jody is there because he's wealthy and i think that jody being like hey so remember how you sent in that contract but there were errors all over it yeah next time send it to me remember i said don't send it because there might be errors i don't think that he's like trying to control her i think he's trying to make her not look like an idiot in

59:20Ronnie Karam: business that's what it seemed like but you know i don't know we haven't really seen enough of jody for me to have any idea so he's like so he's a gold digger and guard he's like oh my god how did you and lisa end it what happened did you fly on the same flight did you say goodbye like how did it happen did captain sandy say bye to you or did julia tell her not to like tell me that

59:42Ben Mandelker: i left like oh did you invite her tonight oh well you know lisa's father passed away so lisa's in canada i called him up i said oh my god i hope i'm not in the middle of the funeral

59:52Ronnie Karam: and it turns out that was so i said let me give a speech on facetime and i said listen lisa's father was such a good person unlike todd who left in front of frankie

1:00:03Ben Mandelker: i don't like that lisa that larsa picked this time to talk about lisa and jody while lisa's grieving her father's death i don't think that did larsa know this i'm not sure so you know i'm not gonna defend larsa i'm sure she absolutely knew she knew about this so marissa was like what

1:00:20Ronnie Karam: you know so they're like well was she even close with her dad someone's like was she close and gurney's like oh they just made up they just made up you know it was nice it was very nice so now we move to the congratulations uh uh julia just starts screaming marisol congratulations on your wedding oh my god look at me i'm cheering the loudest still cheering well look this is how you do it to a friend thank you thank you for showing up for my

1:00:46Ben Mandelker: zoom call yes congratulations yeah she's being like loud and performative probably drunk too like we've seen in seasons past that julia is actually a really bad drunk and so gertie is like what the hell you know and she's like am i crazy because they call me too much and yet julia is the one being most extra of all of us so julia's getting another drink and gertie starts to tell the women uh about their rift and about how there's like you know she's like wow julia has a problem with me or whatever and julia is just like drunk and she's like around the guys and she's like i'm in middle of you i'm middle of marisol and steve just kiss oh my god i like watching you kiss i'm like hyena who wants to be voyeur oh so exciting watch kiss so she comes back

1:01:34Ronnie Karam: to the table and kiki's like julia i think you two should really talk and she's and gertie's like sure and she goes i don't know about that oh well you want to do it with the group or oh you you do this producing don't do this producing okay what wow what is this what are you doing what are you

1:01:54Ben Mandelker: gertie is being totally chill and julia has her finger all up in gertie's face like like like and this continues like the whole scene julia's fingers are in gertie's face like i am i applaud gertie for not slapping those things away because i'm sure took a lot of willpower not to so julia is like you're not clarifying anything and you're not producing anything okay well how many of those drinks have you had i am not i don't think the answer to how many of those drinks have you had

1:02:24Ronnie Karam: is i am not she's screaming at her and yelling and gertie's like okay we're not talking then Okay, because you're screaming. You're like a hyena. She goes, I am screaming. I am a hyena. I am. I am a hyena. She goes, okay, this is not the farm. This is not the farm, okay? I am a hyena.

1:02:42Ben Mandelker: I am a hyena. I have farm. By the way, I have farm. Come on, farm of hyenas. Come at me.

1:02:48Ronnie Karam: Oh, you've been talking shit behind my back all summer. All summer.

1:02:51Ben Mandelker: Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on.

1:02:54Ronnie Karam: You're an animal. This is not an animal farm. You're disgusting. You are disgusting.

1:02:59Ben Mandelker: What the hell? Oh, my mother would be mortified.

1:03:03Ronnie Karam: We see Mama Elsa Cliff going, tell them act like ladies.

1:03:09Ben Mandelker: Look, I'm so sorry, Steve. I'm so sorry that this is happening. Oh, what? You are in my suite at my jacuzzi talking badly about Alexia, talking badly about the group.

1:03:20Ronnie Karam: Oh, animal, animal. What's happening? What's happening? There's an animal over there.

1:03:24Ben Mandelker: Oh, I am hyena and I am proud to be hyena.

1:03:27Ronnie Karam: Oh, you are. Go sit down. That's what hyenas do. They sit.

1:03:30Ben Mandelker: go sit your hyenas call you out you call i call you out i am a calling out hyena

1:03:35Ronnie Karam: and she gets right in her face and garty's like what are you gonna do touch me just never never

1:03:39Ben Mandelker: in my life so she's like go sit down and be a human and so everyone else is like watching all the other guests are like oh my god this is crazy what's happening yeah and they're all just staring just blatantly staring like this is full-on like gladiator stuff now find your words find your

1:03:57Ronnie Karam: words. Do not spit on me. Don't spit on me. Your saliva is all over my mouth. Disgusting. Disgusting hyena animal. Non-sitting hyena. Disgusting. All right, guys, can you sit down? Stop. This is great, isn't it, guys? I love this. All right, everybody sit down. Just kidding. Don't do it. Call each other names. I'm loving this. Oh, really? She's been all summer talking to everybody else. It's just ridiculous. Oh, why do I want to talk to you? You are so self-centered. I took you on a Boat! A boat! Because you wanted to go on boat. You begged to go on boat. People want to go on boat. I take you on boat, and you no like.

1:04:34Ben Mandelker: Well, I just left the fucking boat. You're the one who freaking called me, okay? And so then she's up again. She's like, sit your ass down, girl. Just freaking sit your ass down right now.

1:04:45Ronnie Karam: This is not an opera show, okay? We were all invited, actually, in one cruise. You know, there were three itineraries. I chose itinerary one, so she couldn't make it. And it was myself, Russell. We were on this cruise. We had the most amazing time on the cruise. And we know what this is. This is Virgin telling all the ladies, you can come on these cruises. And you get like a week for your influencer cruise or whatever. I'm sure. That's what I'm guessing it is. Because they've got like a big thing with Virgin this year. So Gertie already went on her cruise with Russell. And Martina and this chick chose another cruise.

1:05:16Ronnie Karam: So she's coming back from her cruise. And Martina couldn't go on the next cruise. And Gertie's like, I don't want to go on another cruise. but if you need me to, I will. Who wants to go on a cruise twice in a row? Nobody. They're fun, but they're also like a pain in the ass, you know?

1:05:31Ben Mandelker: Well, it's also like if you're coming home from vacation, then you find out as you're unpacking that day that you have to go back out on vacation. Like we all love vacation, but there's also a mental moment where you say, okay, time to get back to real life. I can finally like take care of my things again. So Gertie's like, well, I'm literally unpacking. I'm with Russell saying, what's wrong? What's wrong? She's literally hysterical. Good friend that I am. I wrong with martina and she does not want to go with me now so she says i will tell you on the ship manipulator and i say okay i'm gonna go on the ship i will go so i literally repack i literally repack everyone not figuratively i literally put things back in be quiet be quiet be quiet

1:06:11Ronnie Karam: don't you tell me you're psychopath and then she throws her drink at her what the hell julia she

1:06:18Ben Mandelker: it was wild she throws a drink at her which also gets kiki too and alexia ducks and everything martina had a cancer situation and gertie i mean this is this is this is crazy and never mind the fact that there's all sorts of microaggressions like just floating all over the place from julia around this whole situation but gertie is now like she's completely wet which is mortifying and everyone's like, Steve's like, they're going to kick us out. So Julie's like, you're a liar. You're a liar. Martina had a biopsy. I told you this on the phone. You are a liar. You're doing everything for your social media.

1:06:56Ben Mandelker: And she's just standing over her.

1:06:57Ronnie Karam: So Martina had a biopsy, so you went on a cruise, A. Yes. And B, you're throwing cancer on the woman. You're throwing water on the woman with cancer. Like, still going through the aftermath of cancer. You can't use cancer against a cancer person.

1:07:13Ben Mandelker: Stupid. Exactly. And that was Gertie's strongest point, which is like, if Martina has a health scare, you are the one who should have been back there and you're blaming me for it. So Gertie is saying, you know, like, you know, what do you mean social media? Because I guess she, Julia is saying that Gertie does everything for social media. Because you never, you used me. You used me for social media. You were brought onto the boat for social media.

1:07:39Ronnie Karam: no one's using you for social media Gertie's more famous than you she doesn't need to use you for social media you fucking weirdo

1:07:47Ben Mandelker: yeah she's like you use me for social media you use you completely use me you were using her you said come on to this boat I need you to come on here and it's as evidenced by the fact that then when you didn't need her you just didn't even fight for her to come into your dinner that you had on the boat

1:08:02Ronnie Karam: yeah so Julia's like all she wanted is to promote herself she didn't And she wanted to be invited to be very special event because Captain Sandy was there. Well, yeah. So you have her go on a Captain Sandy cruise and then have her seat filled for the Captain Sandy day.

1:08:18Ben Mandelker: That's annoying. It's like clearly a Bravo Liberty thing. Like, yeah, that's it is shitty.

1:08:23Ronnie Karam: It's like you're trying to to take her out of this thing. Like you're all on Bravo. Why would the fuck wouldn't she be there? That's weird that she has to sit there and wait in some other restaurant while you're like getting on Captain Sandy's nuts.

1:08:37Ben Mandelker: the whole day it's weird so julia's like never once that she asked how martina is feeling to me it was clear gertie was here for gertie so gertie meanwhile is like well i'm going to continue the story because she's like i don't care that i'm wet i'm going to state my case and she goes low class lowest class no class now let's get back to the problem at hand martina has an issue she gets on the boat and she leaves martina and that's the fucking issue and you're trying to spin it all around. Don't get involved with my family. You made me involved when you invited me on the ship to be with you because of Martina, just the same way you got a facelift while Martina was in York getting chemo.

1:09:14Ben Mandelker: Oh my god.

1:09:16Ronnie Karam: And she's like, do not deflect. Do not deflect. And I'm like, wow, her face looks great. And so Gertie's like, I'm not. Look at yourself and realize what you're doing, even though it looks very less wrinkly. And she's like, yeah, well, you stupid. And she's like, all you gotta say is, Gertie, I have a problem. But you waited almost a year. No, I did not want to have anything to do with you. So I didn't wait. So, yeah, I didn't wait to talk to you about it. I just dumped you, is what she's saying. God, Julia's really out of pocket here. What the fuck happened to her?

1:09:46Ben Mandelker: She really is like, wow, like really, really out of pocket. So Kiki is basically like, yeah, I'm going to leave. She's like, if I get water thrown on my face, I will say my point and leave. I wouldn't sit there and be like, bring it on. So she's like, by the way, everyone, I came in dry and I leave her wet.

1:10:02Ronnie Karam: Yeah, but at the same time, Kiki, why are you spending this episode lecturing Gertie on being too extra and this and that? And meanwhile, you've got this other lady throwing drinks all over people and screaming about nothing and no one says anything to her. But Gertie's the problem. What the fuck's going on on this show? Or not? Yeah.

1:10:19Ben Mandelker: It's also hilarious. But yeah, they are nuts. so then uh larsa's like guys we're not gonna fix this problem tonight like but i just want to say something we're here for marisol like so let's talk about lisa and how how terrible she is

1:10:31Ronnie Karam: yeah exactly yeah thanks a lot and uh gertie's like i feel like a pawn for a sorority hey so kudos kudos julia you just made the mean girl sorority and then a wedding cake comes out and Marisol's like, Steve, Boon Bear, everybody has been such a magical evening, even my children. Am I right? Call me mommy. Call me mom. Okay. They called me back.

1:10:56Ben Mandelker: I just want this to be over. Take off, Mike. I'm going to cry hyena tears. And Larson's like, I just wanted her to stop.

1:11:03Ronnie Karam: You're the one screaming at her. What is wrong with you and throwing drinks? Get her out of here. Jeez.

1:11:09Ben Mandelker: How can a friend say those things to me? I feel embarrassed to be in front of Marisol for allowing Garrity to get the best of me. I just wanted her to stop. You started it. Gertie was trying to start a normal civilized conversation with you, and you acted like a total monster.

1:11:25Ronnie Karam: Yeah, Julia. Wow, what an idiot. I've never seen somebody turn that fast. Well, I mean, we've seen it multiple times. What am I saying? I know. That was a really quick fall from grace for Julia.

1:11:35Ben Mandelker: Wow. Are we going to be on Adriana's side about the fallout in their relationship?

1:11:39Ronnie Karam: Yeah, I'm already on Adriana's side because she just dumped Adriana, too. For what? yeah that's how she is she like gets on a show and then she dumps everybody to like hang out with the cool girls or who she considers to be the cool girls stupid Julia those girls are going to dump you and they're going to turn on you the second they can so have fun with that stupid

1:12:01Ben Mandelker: wow wild wild wild wild well that was it everyone the wedding happened and chaos ensued thanks everyone for being here we always appreciate you and we will catch you on the next episode Bye.

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