


Next Gen NYC episode centers on a birthday party fallout, planning Meredith Marks’ caviar-themed event, and relationship/household chaos (missing speakers, trust issues, and a disastrous stove/oven).
Ben Mandelker and Ronnie Karam. (No other podcast guests appear in the transcript.)
Guest backgrounds (from the episode’s cast, not podcast guests):
Ava “punches down” at Ariana’s fashion credibility; Meredith’s caviar party is a major production; Georgia’s father story drives her distrust; Omar and Georgia negotiate exclusivity; Charlie’s speakers are leverage in multiple conflicts.
“Speaker” retrieval delays (business-day joke); eviction-themed party idea after a venue is marked “evicted”; Bertazzoni/oven rants; Diplo-at-McDonald’s party brag; Box club table cost argument; Candy’s reaction to Riley wanting to be a DJ.
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The hosts transition into discussing the latest episode of Next Gen New York City.
“I go every single Monday to Phil's Coffee to get a nice big coffee to power up the beginning of my week here on the podcast.”
The hosts recount the events at Chloe's birthday party and the ensuing fashion debate.
“And we pick up where we left off, which is that we're at this party for Chloe.”
Discussion on Georgia's plans for her birthday and the coordination of Meredith's party.
“My good friend Danny and I started our own private events company.”
The hosts discuss a creative idea for a caviar-themed party inspired by southern cuisine.
“George, I hate to interrupt you in the middle of your interview, but we definitely need security for these housewives.”
The hosts explore various characters living in New York City and their experiences.
“So then Ariana's like, I'm living in New York City.”
Discussion about the challenges of obtaining a liquor license and personal grievances over borrowed speakers.
“oh, if we need a liquor license, I'll just ask my dad for a loan.”
Georgia discovers her event venue has been evicted and brainstorms a humorous party theme.
“He's like, yeah, I'm not going to wear this.”
A conversation between Georgia and Omar about their relationship status and trust stemming from past experiences.
“So she's like, so he goes, yeah, you know, can we talk about the elephant in the room?”
Georgia and her friends prepare for a lavish caviar party amidst ongoing speaker drama.
“So I'm very not trusting, which is why when you lend me speakers, I'm not going to give them back to you right away because I want you to not trust me in turn.”
Georgia and her friends prepare for a lavish caviar party amidst ongoing speaker drama.
“I'm trying to, you know, get my health together after a very fun summer.”
Discussion on Seth's awkward attempts to connect with younger characters.
“Higher app engagement was associated with greater weight loss at 16 weeks.”
Riley meets her friends at a rooftop pool, discussing their dynamics and financial issues.
“and then we come back and it's the next day and riley's meeting candy and todd and the kids at a rooftop pool and she's like i'm so tired so yeah they all say hi and everything it's nice to see Candy, love Candy.”
Charlie faces criticism from friends about his financial irresponsibility and lifestyle choices.
“Charlie's just skateboarding around town and he's on the phone with Anwar.”
The group discusses Charlie's entitlement and possible substance issues.
“She's like, because that way I can text my man.”
Brooks and others explore personal growth and self-discovery in New York City.
“Well, Georgia goes, oh my god, that'd be so fun, but Georgia is only saying that because she's like, that's so ironic in camp.”
Light-hearted moments as Brooks tries and fails with a high-tech hula hoop.
Learn about the escalating conflict between Charlie and Georgia over borrowed speakers and their implications.
“I was like, it took New York City to pry that out of you.”
The hosts discuss the intensity of the argument and the character dynamics among the cast.
“And Danny is like, oh, my God, that was a lot.”
The hosts acknowledge their sponsors and share some light-hearted community shoutouts.
“Can't lose when you're with Amy Baldwin.”

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2:08Ronnie Karam: Hey, what's going on with you?
2:11Ben Mandelker: Not much. We are here today to talk about next gen New York City. Also, a little scheduling update. We're taking a mini break because it's July 4th here in the States. so we're going to have like Thursday, Friday we're putting this episode out on Thursday but we're taking Thursday, Friday, Monday and Tuesday off so the shows that we would normally recap on those days will not be recapped but we'll be back on Wednesday with Fresh Love Island Fresh Valley, Fresh Next Gen New York City and then we'll have all the shows that you love like Miami, all that good stuff we'll be back but we're just giving ourselves a little bit of a holiday so thanks for your patience with that Speaking of Love Island, go to patreon.com slash watch for crappens to get our bonus episodes where we are recapping Love Island.
2:59Ben Mandelker: We did a real big one today where we recapped that crazy stand on business challenge that they did. And we had a lot of thoughts. I'm sure you have a lot of thoughts. So go listen, weigh in, leave a comment. Don't forget you can join our Discord community if you are on Patreon where a lot of people are talking about Love Island. So there's just so much to do. And we also have crappens on demand where you can watch us, not just listen to us. So with that all being said, let's dive into next-gen New York City. And we pick up where we left off, which is that we're at this party for Chloe. It's Chloe's birthday.
3:34Ben Mandelker: And Ava has basically just shaded Ariana for not looking like a fashion designer. And she's not really wrong. It's just not nice.
3:43Ronnie Karam: It's not nice, but it does crack me up because it's such a fight when you're 20. Like, how dare you say I'm not a fashion designer? You literally aren't. have you ever drawn anything you walked into the place and said you want hearts on sweatpants
3:56Ben Mandelker: yeah you have no fashion pov you don't walk into a room with any sort of like distinct aesthetic that like like a signature aesthetic that people know what you're about like ava is completely correct but she's also punching down but yeah yeah you don't really need to do that yeah and
4:12Ronnie Karam: like i said last week i think that um zolciak should just pivot and be like you're right i I don't know shit. I'm just here to learn. Can your mom teach me anything? Can you get me an internship with your mom? That would be great.
4:24Ben Mandelker: There you go. That's exactly what Ariana should do. So it was like, babe, I did not mean to come for your brand. I'm too lazy to put my fingers in the air and do an air quote, but that's what I really meant because you don't have a brand. All I said was I was just surprised that you moved to New York City to start your fashion brand because there's nothing about you that's fashionable or brand wear. I don't know. That's it.
4:47Ronnie Karam: and she's like but why why is this so surprising i mean people come to new york to start things
4:54Ben Mandelker: all the time brooks is like i'm severely uncomfortable with this and he and george are like laughing behind them because they're like this is so awkward oh my god and then my mother of the icons across the room while this is happening like i die yeah but like when i've
5:11Ronnie Karam: seen someone with a fashion brand i can usually tell like hold on right away what their point of view is so i'm like wow and she's like but you're basically saying she has no style
5:26Ben Mandelker: yeah in a way you're saying that no i'm not saying that it's just like you know when you look at gia and you see like trash new jersey that's her vibe no you just said you can usually
5:37Ronnie Karam: tell.
5:39Ben Mandelker: Yeah, I usually can tell.
5:40Ronnie Karam: Yeah, but you just said, like, she, like, clearly you cannot tell. That's what you just said.
5:46Ben Mandelker: Can I finish talking or no? If I can't talk, okay, that's fine.
5:50Ronnie Karam: No, because, like, everything you're saying is just, like, insulting. Just letting you know. Just letting you know. Well, I haven't said anything
5:57Ben Mandelker: because you've been talking the whole time.
5:58Ronnie Karam: Just letting you know about it. Just letting you know. Gia, please, stop acting like you've never heard anyone shocked that you have anything to do with fashion your family has heard that many times my friend
6:10Ben Mandelker: okay g is also funny because she gesticulates with sort of like slow slow moving paddle hands like all her gestures like she sort of like slowly moves her wrist left and right it's like watching like an aquatic animal or something like she does this one where she kind of like waves like down like she loves something on the ground she's like ah she's rubbing a crystal ball or something Yeah, but that's what you said.
6:37Ronnie Karam: Yeah. And I think Ava's right here where she's like, yeah, I don't know her, but I know that she has a mouth and she doesn't need Gia fighting everybody's battles. You know, she's like, no, I get standing up for her friends. But Gia, like you're here for five minutes, an episode stand down, you know?
6:57Ben Mandelker: Yeah. She's like, I don't need the girl from Jersey to lecture me about fashion thoughts. Okay. she goes well if Georgia were to tell me she had a fashion brand I would be like cool makes sense she has like a certain point of view it's kind of like Diplo in a diner meets super white skin you know like I get that I see what her her point of view is but I just like bride in
7:19Ronnie Karam: the 1920s who died um that's like her thing I get it chalk outline but only the chalk part casper the ghost if it was like on a severely restrictive carb diet
7:34Ben Mandelker: i get it you know i just don't know what your point of view is because you're just sort of wearing generic fast fashion right now all right i was like oh my god so what i'm saying is like you just told me it would make more sense if georgia had a clothing line instead of me what would her clothing line be gross germs from the street on her hands and brooks is like i'm itching
7:55Ronnie Karam: to get out of here and he was like well i'm just telling you how i meant it so like there's really no point to like yell and scream and she's like okay then like so you should not install her clothing line then yeah she she doesn't have a clothing line so it was like can you not point
8:13Ben Mandelker: in my could you not point your slow paddle of a hand in my face because this is how i talk we're italian if you're not used to it get over it you can put that in the trailer it was a really
8:23Ronnie Karam: good moment get up all right and riley's like yeah she is always putting herself in the mix you know like i'm not gonna argue about someone else's issue okay so it was like sorry i hit that insecurity too bad you don't have a cute dress to like dress it up in yeah so ariana's like i
8:44Ben Mandelker: understand maybe the way you could have meant it but i'm just like trying to tell you how i feel when I talk about it, okay? So then Brooks is, now they're trying to hash it out, but then it's like, happy birthday to Chloe Icahn. Happy birthday. It takes 15 minutes for them to get through the song.
9:06Ronnie Karam: Happy birthday. And Chloe's 23. Wow. That was iconic, Mother. Oh, thank you. So now it's the next day And Georgia is with Danny And she's like Oh so Danny's the girl right So she's like oh yeah So for my birthday I'm gonna like do Disney And like Orlando Cause like I've never been and Omar's never been So it's like welcome to Orlando Bitches am I right Can't wait It's gonna be like edgy Orlando Disney when you're like my age is like crazy so ironic bringing Orlando back
9:49Ben Mandelker: oh my god we're gonna do like an Orlando themed Orlando party I cannot wait so Danny is like oh my god so he's gonna take you to Disney World then you can go to Epcot she goes I don't really like apricots but sure I'll go that's not what that is okay whatever she's like yeah it's like make a wish
10:06Ronnie Karam: like literally
10:10Ben Mandelker: after a bunch of years doing events for like other people. My good friend Danny and I started our own private events company. And like one thing that's like different about Gen Z is that like I don't think anyone wants to work for someone else or even work. So everyone grew up with the internet and watched kids go our age creating businesses and careers. And my goal is definitely like I don't ever want to call someone my boss again or do anything productive in society, which is why I'm going to have a Gen Z style Gen Z party with Diplo at a Dunkin Donuts pop-up. Yes, queen, amazing.
10:42Ronnie Karam: she's like unwashed fingers crossed so then we go to Brooks and Meredith walking arm in arm to go to a shower and see my light
10:53Ben Mandelker: we are going to get a new outfit on for something and she says I mean and Brooks is saying how he's always like styled her and everything and she's wearing this like sheer thing or whatever and Brooks is like not a fan of it because Meredith is like well I mean I like this piece. It's very much my style. I'm very monochromatic. As Meredith Marks, monochromatic? That's not what I think of. I think of her as big, red, bright colors.
11:23Ronnie Karam: I think of shoulder pads and sleeves. That's what I think of with Meredith. She's like, yeah, but you're going to love the showroom. It's very much my vibe. He's like, what are you talking about? I invented your vibe.
11:39Ben Mandelker: I've been stalling. my mom for years and honestly I don't know how long it's been but she went through a period of time where she was doing it herself and then I stepped in and the producer's like were you responsible for the crystal face mask he's like no and I actually told my mom not to wear it and she said it's the vibe and I'm so glad that I trusted her cause what an iconic look that she totally pulled off
12:03Ronnie Karam: so we go to this thing it's like what's in my world of a caviar party honey and Brooks is like, you should put caviar on your potty. She goes, oh my God, that would be so chic.
12:17Ben Mandelker: That would go really well with the bib you told me to put on. I do love being styled by a toddler, especially convenient when you're spreading food all over your body.
12:30Ronnie Karam: So then we go to Danny in Georgia having lunch and Danny's like, so Meredith's party, I'm a little bit anxious because it's like actually in two minutes. Like it's literally, it was yesterday. that's how soon it is it was like oh my god it's over it's over at the party's over i'm cleaning up the party i'm picking up the dishes like it's literally now come on oh my god danny's like the
12:50Ben Mandelker: brains behind the operation she's so professional all the time she's like the brains and i'm like
12:54Ronnie Karam: the germs oh we're so good together okay well like we got the florist which is great i just need to confirm with meredith that we're down to do a grid post so i'm like the opposite of that
13:06Ben Mandelker: I'm like not the brains of the operations. Wow, really? Way to sell your business there. She's the brains and I'm the idiot that doesn't know what's going on and just is goofy. She's like, I do nothing.
13:16Ronnie Karam: But I have access to a whiteboard. So a whole room of them. So Brooks and Meredith are talking about how the girls are going to be doing her party. And he's like, wow, you're trying to steal my friends again. She's like, no, honey, they're very talented girls. They want to do a grid post.
13:38Ben Mandelker: My mom recently launched Meredith Marks Caviar in Georgia. There's like a lot of event coordination and planning and like hosts, like some of like the most amazing parties in New York. Like last week I went to a Cinnabon and Sinbad was the DJ. It was iconic. I didn't even know who he was, but I was like, yes.
14:02Ronnie Karam: so then danny's like oh my god i have such a good idea for this caviar party okay so you know how like in the south they have frito pies okay you know how meredith is like totally southern like she's totally the vibe of the south so yeah i was thinking we could do like frito pies but like we'll get a big bag of lays and caviar caviar pie isn't that crazy that's nuts am i right it's like so southern oh my god like mama's my god it's like the mama's family of caviar meredith
14:25Ben Mandelker: is gonna love it oh my god that's amazing fritos i didn't even know you you like i why would anyone even pay for toes if you can get them for free that is a great idea caviar on toes yeah you can
14:37Ronnie Karam: put caviar on anything like you can literally put caviar on pizza and george is like wow you're
14:42Ben Mandelker: giving me ideas girl so now we go back to meredith and brooks and um and they're talking about style and everything and then we go back to georgia and she's like you know the venues are giving us an amazing deal i mean it's basically going to be like all comms i mean she'll be great and they just they cannot wait to work with meredith it is like so perfect i think she wants to invite like whoever like whoever from the housewife world so like we're gonna have to have security because it's like housewives and they're out of control when did the free toes arrive and uh georgia's
15:16Ronnie Karam: like yeah she's a great client because like she also like gives you the space to interpret her ideas which is really great i think she's gonna like a mama's family theme whatever that is never heard of it but whatever so we see clips of meredith being wacky on salt lake city and um the producer's like have you ever seen meredith on her show i mean you're calling her chill and stuff like do you know her and she's like wait you mean like her show like i don't Yeah, I don't have a TV. Is it on TikTok? Because, like, otherwise.
15:49Ben Mandelker: George, I hate to interrupt you in the middle of your interview, but we definitely need security for these housewives. And also, Meredith called and she said she wants someone dressed like a Bubba. I'm not even sure who that is, but I'll just have to do my research.
16:03Ronnie Karam: So, Meredith is picking pieces and Brooks is like, no, no, no. Listen, I don't know if you understand your aesthetic. like with all due respect like you dress younger and you need to like you stop dressing like chloe and she's like i'm not old stop trying to make me like elderly brox also to be fair chloe dresses
16:23Ben Mandelker: like she's 40 yeah the ages are all messed up in this family brooks is a toddler meredith is a 21 year old and chloe is dressing like she's a working girl so i don't know what's happening i don't want to get started on seth so meredith is like you get mad at me sometimes he's like
16:40Ronnie Karam: Yeah, like literally I do. Like it pains me because you're like my best friend. And if my best friend's wearing something that's not cute, I'm going to tell them. Well, I'll have Gia tell them.
16:50Ben Mandelker: My mom and I have a tumultuous work relationship. Well, I don't know why you say that. I think our work relationship is very healthy. I mean, we work for four hours and then I put you in your high chair and open up. Here comes the airplane and put some nice Gerber mushy carrots into your mouth. I mean, it's a wonderful way to conduct business.
17:11Ronnie Karam: How many other bosses have you had that have driven a train of mac and cheese in your mouth, Bruxy? Okay.
17:17Ben Mandelker: Who else encouraged you to take the purple loop off the pole and then the green loop that was below it and then the red loop that was below it and cheer you on every time you took one off and then put it back on?
17:30Ronnie Karam: He's like, what are you kidding me? You fired me last week. She goes, what? I mean, if you're going to tell part of the story, tell the rest. Why did I fire you, Bruxy? He's like, because I missed an email about ordering main labels for your clothes. Well, yeah. Yeah.
17:45Ben Mandelker: Duh. Yeah, that's a big deal. She's like, wow, well, denim, that could have been sitting there and can't even ship. He's like, well, why don't we, like, take a breath and you can, like, try your outfit on and we'll, like, revisit in a minute. my mom's company is like constantly pushing out new lines of development skincare fashion jewelry denim apparel caviar hammers and nails um those little sticky things that you can put on the wall that you can mount like a poster board but then you can take it off really easily that kind of stuff bean salad it's a lot so he's like mom can we sit and talk because like it's hard to talk
18:20Ronnie Karam: when you stand she goes oh really well i'm so sorry sorry for standing i don't remember firing you, Bronx. He goes, well, you said find a new job by the end of the month and you're fuming and my entire denim won't be here and so now everything's in hell because of how you handled it. This is a total disregard. I wish I'd never had you. God, I wish Chloe was better with a calculator. Need I go on? She's like, yeah, it was nice. I was being supportive. I was saying I love you, but I'm jealous.
18:52Ben Mandelker: Do you ever see that TV show undercover boss well i'm starting one called overcover boss where i am going to just shower you with praise because you're a beautiful little toddler but you should be fired so brooks is like well the text message was warranted yes but it wasn't appropriate so it was like triggering oh
19:09Ronnie Karam: god get over it with your triggering i want to fire you for saying it was triggering you fucked
19:14Ben Mandelker: all the gen z words so uh he's like you said i love you and i want to make this work but this frustration isn't worth it. Well, I don't think that's mean. I did emphasize that I love you and, you know, I mean, how many planes have to go in the hangar before you say I love you back? I mean, I understand your vocabulary limited mainly to Gugu and Gaga, but, you know, string them together and you can emphasize and I can still hear what you have to say.
19:42Ronnie Karam: He's like, I saw a horror movie called Mama and it scared me. Oh, really? Well, it was starring me and I won an Oscar for it. I'm the best one you've got. Now come over here. I'm going to button my shirt. It's time for lunch. Oh, geez. It's time for a commercial. It's time for a Crappens commercial.
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21:16Ben Mandelker: And she's making like a little video that's like, this is how I put on makeup for my brand. And she's just like sitting on her toilet doing it. It's like the only good lighting she can get is if she straddles the toilet.
21:29Ronnie Karam: So then we go to Ava getting her hair and makeup done for a photo shoot. And she's like, yeah, I have to work for my money and pay my own bills. Which I don't know about that because Dame went broke and she had to move out of her$10 ,000 a month apartment. I'm not sure how true this is, but I like Ava, so I'll go with it. And she says her dad is a serial entrepreneur, and he's been pushing the idea of her being the boss of her own company and also her mom's Rachel Roy. So you might think I'm just living off my parents, but that's just not the case for me. I'm living off the reputation of my parents.
22:05Ronnie Karam: So that's free.
22:07Ben Mandelker: Yeah. And then we have Georgia. She's like planning this big event. She's like, we have a photographer coming as well. It's like amazing. And then we go to Charlie and Dylan's apartment. And they're like, just kind of like, you know, being bros, they're sleeping, whatever. And then we hear from Dylan. And Dylan's like, yeah, before moving to New York City, I would say I was in bed most nights by midnight at one. And, you know, but now I've been going out a lot. I mean, I went to bed at 6.30 a.m. last night. And we see them like partying and everything. And he's saying how like living with Charlie's fun, but it's like too much.
22:39Ben Mandelker: and then we see what we think is just going to be like some stupid little thing where Charlie's like, hey, Georgia, it's like a text exchange. He's like, remember the speakers you borrowed? Are they retrievable? Because I'll just like, you know, do an Uber package or something, get like for the caviar party. Can we do that? She's like, oh yeah, yeah, totally. Like I'll just ask Cooper for the tea. Yeah, no problem. Like y 'all get your speakers.
23:02Ronnie Karam: Y 'all ask Cooper to ask Tara. Yeah, so don't worry about her.
23:08Ben Mandelker: I don't want to ask Tara specifically myself I'll ask Cooper to ask Tara
23:12Ronnie Karam: Riley comes to What's Her Buns, the Zolciak apartment and Hudson is trying to light the oven but he's trying to light the stove and she's like have you ever been to the kitchen before and they're like no this is like literally how you have to do it you have to light the stove to light the oven it's crazy Guys I have the same
23:31Ben Mandelker: range as Ariana Bierman I was like really that was like hard for me hard for me to be like wow but that's the one i think i've complained about it before it's very very fancy looking and you think wow what a luxurious range and it is the biggest pain in the ass like when they were trying to start that thing and they're trying to figure out is it on is it off i felt for those kids because that is my daily life you like you sit there goes and then it lights up and then you check on it five minutes later and the fire's gone out no don't feel like operating today because like it got like a draft i was like no and then And it's like, you don't know what temperature it is because it just sort of gives an approximation.
24:07Ben Mandelker: And you put your thermometers in there. And it's like, is it hot? Is it at 350? Is it at 320? Is it at 400? You never really know. It's all very nice and fancy. It is a nightmare. Do not get a Bertazzoni ever, ever, ever, ever. A Bertazzoni. Yeah.
24:24Ronnie Karam: Yeah, they suck, I guess. Fuck those things.
24:26Ben Mandelker: They're fancy but annoying.
24:27Ronnie Karam: It should be easy, you know. I got one. It's not fancy. It's like some Samsung something. but I got it. I have a gas range, you know, which I like because if the electricity goes out, at least you can, you know, grill a tortilla. But if the electricity goes out here, which it has, you can't turn the oven on anyway, because it has an electric lighter. And even if you light it with a match, the gas won't come out unless it's been lit by the electric lighter. It's so stupid and fucked up. It makes me so mad.
24:54Ben Mandelker: And the other thing about the Bertazzoni, because again, the house we got, it came with it. It's not like we're like, Ooh, let's get the bird of zoni like that just is what came i was like oh my god how nice and it looks all nice and the inside of that oven is so small you have to take out two racks in order to put in just a standard size dutch oven like it doesn't a dutch oven does not fit on like i just you just can't fit it in there it's so tiny it's so finicky i cannot advocate against this oven more with my heart so when i saw those kids i was like no you guys deserve something like a crappy GE oven, not something like this.
25:30Ben Mandelker: Please don't do this to yourselves.
25:32Ronnie Karam: Yeah. Well, they're screwed, basically.
25:35Ben Mandelker: Yeah.
25:35Ronnie Karam: So they're talking about, what are they talking about? They're talking about how Ariana's feelings are hurt by Ava. And Riley's like, yeah, she's always saying her mom picks out her outfit. So I was surprised she had something to say about you, because if your mom picks out your outfits, then you can't really, like, talk down on someone else. And Brooke somewhere is like, how dare you? How dare you? my mom just put on these Oshkosh and they fit great.
26:06Ben Mandelker: So basically she's like, yeah, I mean,
26:08Ronnie Karam: even if you don't like the way I dress, it's not cool to like talk shit about my brand. I mean, there's going to be hearts on jogging pants. Has anybody ever seen it? No, mind your own business.
26:18Ben Mandelker: You know what? Sometimes I'm sensitive about certain things and this is something I've always wanted to do. I've always wanted to work into fashion. cut to two weeks ago when Ariana and Hudson are like looking at fabrics and they're like, is this alpaca? What is this? What is alpaca?
26:35Ronnie Karam: Meanwhile, the knob of the stove comes off in Hudson's hand. Which just happened to me. Maybe this has something to do with it. She's like, oh my god, I'm in New York. I love New York. We have stoves in New York. This is crazy. This is like a New York stove. So, I mean, I'm good as long as I'm here. Like, it's great, you know? so uh i'm like sorry i've been seeing right it's a lot i keep running through it i don't know if
26:58Ben Mandelker: you could tell the oven i just kind of like my mind wandered because i was thinking about that
27:02Ronnie Karam: fucking oven all right so then we go to ava meeting charlie at slutty vegan and she's like so this is slutty vegan have you ordered from here before and charlie's like yeah i don't eat vegan burgers. She goes, yeah, well, we, we ordered it when my dad was here, but the owner told my dad, like they can't really keep up with all three locations. So they asked him, could you take over this one and not pay the rent? And so he was like, yeah. So we need some help though. You want to talk to my dad on FaceTime? Talk to him right now. Hey dad.
27:36Ben Mandelker: I just want to say to everyone, like I've had to work for every single thing I've ever gotten, including the random restaurant that was just given to me. I've had to work for this by just existing. So Dan is like, yo, are you ready to rock? Like we could open it tomorrow if we want. You want to get down, Charlie? He's like, I'm down, yo, how can I help? He's like, well, and basically he's like, oh, if we need a liquor license, I'll just ask my dad for a loan. He'll say yes.
28:04Ronnie Karam: That's so crazy. And I don't think a liquor license is just the money. Anyway, it's like a lot of paperwork. They're asking you for your expertise as a restaurant person, because apparently his degree is in hospitality. He's like, I have a master's in hospitality management, which is crazy because his hospitality sucks. He's just like a user, a boozer, and a loser. And he's like, yeah, it's like a vague master's. And it's not where my passion lies because like, I mean, it's skateboarding. But, you know, it's like a master's to get my dad off my ass. So yeah, it's basically where I'm going to try and pull this liquor license from.
28:43Ben Mandelker: see how that goes. So Ava's like, yeah, my dad always has people coming to him with different ideas, so I never know what's real or invalid, you know what I mean? And Charlie's like, yeah, sorry, hold on, I'm texting Georgia, she still has my speakers. She's like, what do you mean? Yeah, she took my speakers weeks ago, and she hasn't returned them, and I've been asking her for days, I'm like, how can I lean into hospitality without speakers, right? I want that shit, yo, it's annoying.
29:08Ronnie Karam: You're not getting your liquor license until I get my speakers, okay and so ava's like well i feel like georgia and you used to be besties and he's like yeah but you remember when she would literally like live at my house i mean like if georgia was homeless like living on my couch eating my scraps and that was okay but now i can't get my speakers
29:26Ben Mandelker: back seriously after all that i gave to her so now we cut to georgia and omar and they're eating dinner at a restaurant and georgia is like oh my god i would totally wear this outfit to my own wedding. He's like, yeah, I'm not going to wear this. I'm going to wear tux. Omar, he's just not jaded like everyone else from New York is. He's just sweet and optimistic and I'm just not used to that. Have you looked at your own boyfriend? He looks like he's just emerged from like a knife fight on the subway. He's always like,
30:02Ben Mandelker: this guy's jaded.
30:03Ronnie Karam: She's like, I like that he doesn't put on any airs and he's like, hey, you guys got escargot? Yeah. Yeah, I don't even need to look at the menu. Just like boil up some snails.
30:14Ben Mandelker: So she goes, guess what happened today? What happened? So I rolled up to the venue today, like right before the walkthrough, literally expecting to like meet the chef, meet the owner, da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da, and get this. It's all like cemented. And then we see Georgia showing up to this venue, which looks like just like a door to a house. And there's a sign on the door that's basically like, this place has been evicted. And she's like, what outrageous. Let's have an eviction theme party. It will be so hilarious. We could have kid in play. And if we can't get them, we get some kid in play impersonators.
30:47Ben Mandelker: And they can be on the ones and the twos. And we'll have past apps like, I don't know, Stover's Mac and Cheese. Iconic.
30:54Ronnie Karam: We're going to have like a tent city caviar party. It's going to be amazing. We're going to have the carpet made of used needles. It's going to be so good. Meredith is going to love it. And we see the clip and Meredith walks up and like, look, Meredith, it's an eviction sign. And Georgia starts cracking up. and Meredith is like, oh, god damn, you fucking moron.
31:14Ben Mandelker: This was supposed to be the debut of Meredith Marks. Come here. So she's like, don't worry, it all worked out.
31:22Ronnie Karam: She fixed it. So she's like, so he goes, yeah, you know, can we talk about the elephant in the room? And she starts looking up. She goes, oh my God, not me looking for an actual elephant in the room. Oh my God, Omar.
31:38Ben Mandelker: He goes, this whole thing was very unexpected. Yeah, for me too. I mean, first thing I noticed about you was the extroversion. I was immediately drawn to all the qualities you have that are just so far into who I am. And she's like, oh my God, my palm is sweating.
31:51Ronnie Karam: Do not add soap to it. Do not add soap to it.
31:54Ben Mandelker: She's like, feel it. I'm like, I don't want to feel your germs in a sweaty state. Your swamp ass hand.
31:59Ronnie Karam: Nobody needs it.
32:01Ben Mandelker: Also, what is the elephant in the room? He says, can we talk about the elephant in the room? like there's some sort of thing that happened, but all he's saying is like, wow.
32:09Ronnie Karam: I think he's saying we need to have the relationship talk is what he's saying. Like the elephant in the room is, are we boyfriend and girlfriend? So he was like, you know, like you've cited reasons that you don't want to maybe close it off, but like, I've known you for two months. Like maybe I'm crazy. And she goes, well, the thing like I'm struggling with is like, when you tell me I love you and that I know that you said that to some girl, you knew for one day that you loved her. and like to me that screams bullshit Omar you know and like you know what I hate more than bullshit nothing by the way did I tell you about the party I threw for Diplo in the McDonald's slide it was amazing
32:48Ben Mandelker: oh my god we had burlesque dancers and we styled them all to look like Dinah Manoff in 1988 it was iconic
32:56Ronnie Karam: do you remember when Cats was gonna come back to Broadway and so I had a party for them that was Ratatouille themed that shit was goals.
33:06Ben Mandelker: But we got Jasmine Guy to do the lead and everyone loved it. So she's like, she says she has trust issues because her dad lived a secret life. So we're finding more about this crazy backstory. He had a secret life and he basically bankrupted the company that he built with her mom and then took that money with, I guess, the other family and just left the family with nothing. So now she doesn't trust people.
33:33Ronnie Karam: Oh, yeah. She's very not trusting, which is why she's like, I won't say I love you, but I will go into business with you.
33:41Ben Mandelker: So I'm very not trusting, which is why when you lend me speakers, I'm not going to give them back to you right away because I want you to not trust me in turn.
33:52Ronnie Karam: And he's like, but I didn't actually mean it when I said I love you to the other girl. She goes, but how do I know like you actually mean it now? And he's like, because I said it as I ordered escargot. She's like, that's not a terrible point. it's not a terrible point so um he's like i did mean it i do love you and she goes okay but like you know i haven't seen anyone else since we started talking like i'm not like a whore or a slut not that there's anything wrong with being a whore or a slut i just chose like a different path and like i'm doing it and you know what whenever i do it i have the best sound quality to back me up.
34:27Ronnie Karam: I'm sorry, did I say that on camera?
34:31Ben Mandelker: When I commit to something, I am in it whole hog. So, for instance, if I come across some speakers, I'm going to hold on to them for as long as I possibly can because I commit to things.
34:42Ronnie Karam: He's like, okay, well, we have some things to work out, but I'm not going anywhere and I want to work on it. She goes, yeah, yeah. So then we go to George and Danny prepping for the caviar party and people are coming and they're putting out caviar and all that so charlie comes in and uh well he calls georgia so he's like hey queen just calling because i really would like to get my speaker back it's like oh babe babe wow you're really talking about your speaker a lot right yeah cooper knows about it he heard about it from jan who was called by lucy so we're gonna get it back to you in the next couple of days possibly but like now's not the time to be asking about your speaker.
35:26Ronnie Karam: I'm in a Burger King putting on a caviar party.
35:30Ben Mandelker: He's like, no, but I need it right now because I'm having people over. Okay, relax. Cause you literally asked me like yesterday to do this and I need at least three months to be able to pick up speakers from my living room and put them in my bag. Okay. So we will get it to you very soon. Your request has been processed, but it has not cleared yet. We need five to 1 ,000 business days. Okay. Cause Meredith is here. I got to go.
35:55Ronnie Karam: So people arrive and Seth runs into Teresa and Louie. And he goes, wow, look at you two. God, who's older between the two of you? She goes, actually me, my two years is. He's a Taurus. I'm a Taurus. You know, fours and fours go together. Am I right?
36:15Ben Mandelker: I don't need these people on this show anymore. They have served their purpose. They've transitioned us into a new series. they can leave now. I do not need to see Seth on this series anymore. He needs to go. Teresa's fine. She's been sort of like, she comes in and out, but I cannot deal with Seth asking these questions, trying to have a moment, trying to be funny, trying to launch his podcast again through like building a persona. It has to end. No, I stand against this. No, the show is, the kids are so much more compelling and every moment that we spend with the adults, whether or not I like the adults on their respective franchises, is taking away from making this show grow and be as good as it possibly can be.
36:59Ben Mandelker: I firmly believe that. The only time we should see the adults is if they are lecturing their children, like Anwar and later on Candy Burris. But I don't want to see the adults palling around with the kids. This is like destroying, destroying the show from the inside out.
37:13Ronnie Karam: I cannot be the only person who is dying to see how Seth's pen sexual story is going to pan out.
37:22Ben Mandelker: How is it that I am more invested in Charlie's speakers than I have been in really anything that Seth has ever done on The Real Housewives? That's pretty good.
37:30Ronnie Karam: But you know what? I will also say, I don't know a lot about astrology, but I do know that Tauruses do not belong with Tauruses. You know, that is like the most volatile sign. It's like bulls. You don't put two bulls together. I think Tauruses belong with Elantros.
37:45Ben Mandelker: We're talking about Tauruses, right?
37:48Ronnie Karam: so seth is like no way how do tauruses get along on an intimate level guys let's talk about this can i can i sex coach you and louis like no complaints here oh yeah yeah we do it
38:03Ben Mandelker: so then uh we get to uh meredith like she's doing getting photos done and everything and And Amira is there and Charlie. They start talking about going to the box. The box is getting a lot of mentions on Bravo lately after Lexi Wood and her family went there and had some fun. And it's been mentioned on some other shows. So they're going to go to the box. They're going to get a table. And Amira's like, I mean, I can pitch in like$15 ,000 or$2 ,000 for it or whatever. And they're all looking at like, yeah, let's go. Let's throw in some money. It's going to be a lot. But we can do it. and Amira's like the box is the most iconic New York club it's very difficult to get into and like it's the worst when suddenly like this random like mom is there like why is she showing up all the time it's very expensive and we're always there
38:53Ronnie Karam: um so yeah they all like going to this like Instagram sex club together so Charlie is now talking to Georgia and he's like uh yeah we're gonna get a table if you wanna split it with us and she's like um you think I'm gonna pay to go out in new york city like that's nuts like i literally i'm from here so yeah i'm not
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42:12Ronnie Karam: So then Seth brings over Shy. Their friend Shy. Shy's like, okay, guys, I'm leaving. Just wanted to say thanks for having me. He's like, all right. Who are your friends with? Books? Chloe? You gay? you buy you like you like dick in your face tell me about it you like women and dick is that pans you want to be pans with me come on let's do it show me how to do it come sit on daddy's lap you want me to sit on your lap we can do this lots of different way anal let's talk about anal come on
42:38Ben Mandelker: oh my god you know i feel like seth has made such progress like season one of salt lake city he was just like the worst and he was he had some rough seasons there but he got better and better and better and then we've all grown to like seth i think this show is a massive regression for him I can't sit through these scenes with him just trying to be down with the kids and they're all like, uh... I think it's so cute.
43:00Ronnie Karam: He's just a dad trying to relate to his kids. I mean, it is very dad. Hey, shy. I just want to be a pants. How do I do with that? You know, switch hitting. You know baseball? Are you gay? Are you pants? Am I allowed to say that, honey? Am I allowed to say it? Just tell me where you like the dicks. I'll take them wherever. I'm here. I'm just here for the kids.
43:19Ben Mandelker: whatever you so Ava arrives meanwhile and Brooks goes and says hi to her and Ariana says um Ava sent me a text saying I would never look down or speak bad about a woman trying to start a business well you did and I don't hate Ava I just think that she said what she said spoke volumes about who she is unlike my fashion which apparently doesn't speak volumes about my desire to be a
43:42Ronnie Karam: fashion designer but whatever so ava comes over to say hi to her and gia and they hug and um they're like you missed the caviar and she is like yeah i'm like i'll always be a little late to something but like ava like this is so late it's like so late so then we cut to riley and
44:05Ben Mandelker: charlie and they're still working on reserving a table at the box and riley's like i feel like it's not bad for people for 1200 if we're all splitting it right was it 1200 was a 12 000 i think it was 12 000 i don't know there i could be wrong the point is you're spending a lot of money
44:21Ronnie Karam: oh that makes more sense and they do bottle service which you know is
44:25Ben Mandelker: yeah so they're all thousands of dollars four people for 1200 yeah yeah so she's like yeah
44:31Ronnie Karam: charlie likes nightlife but like i'm gonna do it because it's gonna be my last hurrah for this summer so they all decide to go and amira or yeah amira's like you know hearing the comments that ava made to ariana chloe's birthday party definitely put a bad taste in my mouth like there's a sense of entitlement there like give it a rest so they go to the box and we get commercial and then we come back and it's the next day and riley's meeting candy and todd and the kids
44:58Ben Mandelker: at a rooftop pool and she's like i'm so tired so yeah they all say hi and everything it's nice to see Candy, love Candy. And Todd's... It is really nice to see
45:09Ronnie Karam: Candy.
45:10Ben Mandelker: I miss Candy.
45:11Ronnie Karam: It really is. It is. Riley's saying... Atlanta was not having its best seasons in her final few seasons, probably two or three at least. But man, I miss her. And I miss her charisma on that show.
45:26Ben Mandelker: She's so grounded and so real. And I think that's what I like about this. We have Seth. Seth, I feel like, is being really performative on camera. So to have candy who's just like i'm just here to check in on my daughter and she's like are you like riley's saying this city is so taxing she's like well why do you want to stay here she's like well if i go to atlanta i'll be in your shadow and todd's like i get that when i'm in atlanta people like aren't you candy's husband but when i'm in new york people say who are you it's a subtlety but i like it
46:00Ronnie Karam: so um he's like so you know what what's going on in your friend group you know like that guy you had a problem with and she goes oh now he's mad at me because we went out and he said let's split a table because we went to the box you know so then charlie comes and brings like 10 girls and i had nowhere to sit and i'm like charlie you've got all these girls like we don't have space you guys are drinking all the alcohol i mean literally 1942 bottles so it wasn't cheap And Candy's like, I'm paying for 1942 bottles.
46:31Ben Mandelker: She was like, what? And she's like, well, I paid them. She's like, how much was it? It's like$14 ,000. She's like,$14 ,000.
46:40Ronnie Karam: She starts hitting her. She's like, I'm not paying for that.
46:43Ben Mandelker: As she should have. As she should have. Okay. Ridiculous. Outrageous.
46:49Ronnie Karam: Yeah. So her part was$7 ,000. And Amira's going to split that in half. But that's such bullshit. And Charlie is that guy who's like, let's split it. And then we show up and I'll bring 10 people to drink off our tab and charge you guys for it.
47:03Ben Mandelker: No. Yeah. That is such bullshit. That is such bullshit. I also just want to say real quickly before they started talking about this and before Ariana showed up, that Candy is like, so what do you want to do with your life, Riley? And she goes, I want to be a DJ. And the look that Candy gives her is like. I put all my time and energy into raising you and giving you all the resources so you could do something with your life and you want to be a DJ. I loved it. I loved her just extreme disappointment in that moment.
47:36Ronnie Karam: Oh, my gosh. So then we go. Yeah. Then we go to Charlie. Who's speaking of disappointments. Charlie's just skateboarding around town and he's on the phone with Anwar. and he's like dad just let me finish the pitch before i say before you say no it's like oh you pitch now oh really because last time i saw you with a ball it was constantly being dropped okay i've never seen you catch anything in your life pitching give me a break oh you're gonna get a touchdown now good luck with that no dad listen i just need some stuff for my house okay
48:09Ben Mandelker: i need patio furniture silverware i need to pay people to hang tvs you know my point being is can you just add$5 ,000 to the loan? Oh yeah, why don't you add five pounds to your weightlifting rack so you can have better body like your roommate?
48:23Ronnie Karam: What a loser. Skateboarding around town. You're getting 10 grand a month and you're still calling daddy for more money to get Craigslist to come hang a TV. Loser!
48:31Ben Mandelker: This guy is pathetic. So then Dylan is there. You can see Dylan's starting to really hate Charlie. And he's like, man, I've never been on the east side. Can you skate over here? And Charlie's like, yeah. He's like, wow. oh, by the way, did Riley pay for last night? I want to know if she paid for the table. And Charlie goes, no, she did. I mean, I assume that's why she felt entitled enough to say she doesn't want our money, which I wasn't mad at, by the way. That's for sure. I was like, say less.
48:56Ronnie Karam: That's weird. So she denied his money? That's weird. I don't know. He's like, yeah, bro. Like Hudson had to eat an$8 ,000 charge because Riley was like, we don't need your money. And Hudson's like, bitch, I want some of that money. Come on now.
49:11Ben Mandelker: so I guess Riley was probably mad at Charlie and was like I guess it was like some weird I don't know what it was I would not have I would not have not made Charlie
49:22Ronnie Karam: I also don't believe Charlie
49:24Ben Mandelker: so we'll see how this plays out you think that Charlie maybe told his friends like yeah apparently I didn't have to pay because Riley said she should cover everything so that way he doesn't have like his lies
49:33Ronnie Karam: or he was probably saying like I'll pay for it and she's like it's not about the money and he's like okay then I'm not going to pay it I mean, I don't know. I just don't trust Charlie, you know? So then Dylan's talking about how hard it is to be friends with all these trust fund babies, you know? And he's like, it's fine until I get stuck with the bill. I mean, this guy owes me money too, you know? And Charlie's like, yeah, I mean, like we've been spending a lot of money, but like I'm close to as happy as I could be though, frankly. Yeah, you do. You are. You don't have to do anything, Charlie.
50:06Ben Mandelker: Yeah. So Dylan's like, yeah, I just want Charlie to have a goal, have something that he's excited about. I don't know, maybe he can do foot content for OnlyFans. Or I don't know, he could do some shower jerk-off thing. It's just like he needs to come up with an angle.
50:19Ronnie Karam: Yeah, he's literally having this conversation with Charlie. Do you think it was easy coming five times today? No, but I did it. Okay. Barely even moved my hand right now. Jesus Christ.
50:33Ben Mandelker: Charlie's like wow all this talk about having to get our shit together is a lot let's go home and play Xbox okay bye
50:39Ronnie Karam: yeah so then we go to um some of the other kids having dinner and Charlie is texting Georgia about the speaker still and Brooks is like oh my god seeing you with the phone is like weirding me out because really like I like this new look for me honestly because yeah because like Georgia didn't have a phone for a month so it's really rough
51:00Ben Mandelker: She spent a month after that first episode without a phone. And we see her in a club with a laptop. Like, why do you have your laptop? She's like, because that way I can text my man. And then it turns out that she didn't just didn't. I don't think she was looking for a phone. And she finally looked under her bed and there was her phone.
51:23Ronnie Karam: I like that she's selling herself as this workaholic professional that goes a month without a phone. Come on now.
51:30Ben Mandelker: and Brooks is like, um, has anyone found out where Ava is? And I was like, yeah, it was at the Hamptons and Charlie has COVID and yeah, COVID or something. He got it from one of the girls. He brought one of the seven girls. Yeah. Charlie's harem of women. And so then they basically started talking shit about Charlie, which is great because he needs to be talked, talked about in this way.
51:52Ronnie Karam: Yeah. So they're basically like, what's the fuck Charlie, Charlie's showing up with 10 people and having us all, you know, you know pay for these people and then we find out kevin goes yeah and then he was like no no i don't have a card so i'll like apple pay whatever so yeah you really tried to you really tried to pay huh so george is like yeah i mean is this like more exotic stuff like what the fuck and amira's like well i don't want to add to the fire but he did the same thing to me in the hamptons and so now talking they find out that he owes everybody money and he owes his friend dylan who's not a trust fund kid, four grand.
52:29Ben Mandelker: Yeah, this kid Dylan has like, that's a lot of money to cover for someone. And like, again, Dylan is just like a guy, was he from like the Midwest, like a wrestler from Midwest who's doing OnlyFans? Like Charlie is so awful. Like he is so vile. Like you're both a rich kid, but you actually don't come with any of the perks of being a rich kid. You actually still use other people and you owe people money while being a rich kid. Like that is, you can't be both. Like if you're gonna be the rich kid, you've got to have the money to the back it up.
52:56Ronnie Karam: And he's on the phone begging his dad for an extra five grand, which, you know, he's not going to use to pay anybody back little asshole.
53:03Ben Mandelker: Yeah. So then George is like, I know how much his dad gives him per month. Like I know the number surprise, like how much is like, well, I'm not going to say, I'm not going to say, I'm actually like getting worried that something's going on. It's like a little concerning. Like, I don't know if you guys have heard about this, but like there's a chance that there may be a rich kid in New York city who might have a drug problem. I don't know.
53:23Ronnie Karam: he's drinking and treating 10 girls to bottles of 1942 and doing a lot of coke so so brooks is like yeah i remember when i was like how are you feeling about your 30th and he got so weird and offensive and he's like amira's almost the same age as me i'm not the oldest she goes how dare you how dare you i'm not the same i'm like 22 well i mean 27 but whatever fucking bitch
53:53Ben Mandelker: so then they're like by the way brooks you have a big birthday coming at the big two five he's like yeah the birthday for me is horrible i'm in that like midst of a quarter life crisis because like being 25 is just a reminder that like then i'm 50 and then i'm 100 and then i die
54:11Ronnie Karam: like in double this amount of time my mom's gonna expect me to like start eating mashed up food
54:18Ben Mandelker: so g is like i feel like we should do something fun i know i'm constantly talking about the jersey shore but like why don't we do the jersey shore and you know they're all like you know bruce was about to be like guys let's go to the hamptons so jersey shore great can i just tell you nobody
54:35Ronnie Karam: except amira in this group or ariana not amira ariana is like wow that sounds fun everybody else is like, gross. Well, Georgia goes, oh my god,
54:45Ben Mandelker: that'd be so fun, but Georgia is only saying that because she's like, that's so ironic in camp. I'll be like, we totally went to the Jersey Shore. We had like a Jersey Shore, Jersey Shore party. Did we skip the part where Georgia was talking about like with Danny, they're talking about concepts? She goes, guys, why don't we have like a birthday party themed birthday party? Yeah, it kind of like bowling and kind of like streamers. It'll be like birthday party themed, but it'll be a birthday party.
55:09Ronnie Karam: Yeah, we can have like balloons. so a birthday party no birthday party themed we can have like a cake we could sing it's gonna be crazy that'll be 19 000 thank you uh so then we go to brooks ariana and shy sewing and um ariana's like oh my god i'm in new york it's like amazing york is crazy i'm in my 20s and the 20s is about like finding yourself and i'm finding myself in new york
55:38Ben Mandelker: yeah it's great it could be hard sometimes but like you're supposed to feel like you have it all figured out it's amazing now hold on i'm gonna go into my studio to do more content on my toilet so then we go we go to brooks and he's like this is why it's so important to be in new york because the city has everything for you to figure out what it is you want to do and who you want to be yeah like what's the craziest thing you learned about yourself i learned that i was attracted to men. I was like, it took New York City to pry that out of you.
56:10Ronnie Karam: Wow. You were late to that party. But he's like, yeah, I've learned that I need Shai to sew everything for me because it's still literally happening. So they're like, yeah, you have to go to New York in your 20s. Your life is fucking over. So then people are moving along.
56:30Ben Mandelker: He does some weird. he has some like high tech hula hoop he's like i loved it it's like a weird like hula hoop simulation and it's like this thing on a string that goes around your waist and it goes flying off his side onto the wall i was like you have one job just looking at him like oh my god i'm
56:48Ronnie Karam: dating this is what i'm doing to be close to meredith marx he looks so silly in this thing because he's like bent over and he's just like his boyfriend's so cute love you call me so then um omar and george are walking around and they're making a list about their meeting he's like um i brought the whiteboard check that is so big he's like but i love you stop so then charlie texts and he's like please please please uber
57:15Ben Mandelker: package speakers immediately i need the speakers i need the speakers for the no people who are coming over. Come on, dude, I need your speakers. And so the producer is like...
57:25Ronnie Karam: He's going to be selling that to put up his nose or some shit. That's right. Why would someone who's getting 10 grand a month need... You can go get a freaking Echo for 20 bucks.
57:35Ben Mandelker: Yeah. This guy's ridiculous. So the producer says, can you just explain the fucking producer, the speaker thing? And he's like, okay, here's what happened. I mean, she actually asked everyone, hey, can someone please bring a speaker? And I went out of my way to say, hey, I have one. Let me bring it for the party. And we see footage of her getting the speaker and she has an excuse and she's like i can't get it back to you today the next day i hit her up she's like i like can i get my speaker back and she still won't do it now he's right like this is bullshit if you i can't stand people who are like this if you loan them something and then they will not give it back to you like she is totally that person and those people drive me nuts and i can't stand it but in this case i'm totally down for her making him nuts
58:14Ronnie Karam: about the speaker yeah because it's charlie you know but he is right that's fucking rude and then And we see, don't we see her around the speakers? She's like, yeah, like these speakers. Like we see a clip of those speakers or something. And then he goes, and then the next day I hit her up and say, can I get my speaker back? And we see a flashback. And she's like, Charlie, like the thing is you keep asking me about your speaker like super last minute.
58:40Ben Mandelker: He's like, I called you the day before. You know, Charlie spends his days smoking weed and skateboarding and watching South Park and then going to a club at night. Like that's a typical day in Charlie's life. And like sometimes instead of skateboarding, he'll ride his electric scooter. And I'm lucky. I fell into a career that I love doing. Cause I don't think Charlie has come even close. He doesn't even, he doesn't need to figure that out. He gets an allowance from his dad every month. Like the only thing is like Charlie's turning 30. And I think that changes things for people. And I don't know, I'm not 30 yet, but I would imagine it does.
59:08Ben Mandelker: So that's my way of saying he doesn't deserve his speakers back until he gets a job.
59:14Ronnie Karam: That's essentially what you're saying. He only cares about his speakers cause he's going through a midlife crisis because he's old so i'm not playing into that okay yeah and dylan's talking about now
59:25Ben Mandelker: dylan's saying like yeah i gotta go on my grind i gotta get back to work gotta be more focused okay i don't want to be one of those people who has potential and squandered it because i had this stupid rich kid from like a movie who ruined me so bye and as we as everybody talks shit about
59:40Ronnie Karam: charlie we just see him skateboarding down the streets pathetically he thinks he looks all cool but it looks so sad, you know? So then Georgia and Danny are having lunch and she's like, I'll have a Shirley Temple, ironically. Thanks. Oh, should I have asked for that spiked? That would be crazy. That's like so Gen Z in New York. Like who else would do that except Gen Z?
1:00:04Ben Mandelker: Totally Georgia. Honestly, that would be like a really good idea, like a cool idea for an event. Like children's food, but put it on its head. Like put alcohol in children's food. Should we have alcohol and kids food? I love it. We should get kids drunk. Just like shit face drunk. And this is where Georgia says, we should have a birthday themed birthday party. Like a ball pit, a bouncy castle, a big sheet cake. You know what I mean? Like that's just a birthday party.
1:00:28Ronnie Karam: So Charlie comes and he's like, yeah, hey guys, Ava and I are talking about doing some shit at this vegan restaurant that our dad wants us to make into a club or something. Yeah. And she's like, oh really? Why are you involving us? Like you literally do nothing.
1:00:45Ben Mandelker: He's like, honestly, Georgia, I'm regretting the more that I involve you in my life these days, quite frankly. She goes, yeah, I feel the same way. And she's like, dude, you got your speaker back. Like, what's the deal? He's like, yeah, I did. But the disrespect and your lack of caring about that speaker, it is unforgivable.
1:01:03Ronnie Karam: Yeah, she goes, you're immature. And he's like, dude, shut the fuck up. Seriously. Like, I'm not going to sit here and listen to this shit, dude. Like, the world doesn't revolve around you. We had an agreement, okay? by Monday. Speakers by Monday. You broke it. You broke it. And she's like, yeah, you call me when we're setting up for Meredith's event. So...
1:01:23Ben Mandelker: You didn't so much as apologize. You didn't even apologize. You got mad at me for wanting it back.
1:01:29Ronnie Karam: You were being absurd. Almost as absurd as a Gen Z person ordering a Shirley Temple.
1:01:35Ben Mandelker: So... You literally didn't do so much as saying, I'm sorry. You're a stupid, delusional bitch, Georgia. You're a stupid, delusional bitch.
1:01:43Ronnie Karam: What is wrong with him? How was... I'm shocked when we see his parents that he was even raised. I mean, can we get a nanny or somebody to yell out? Where did he learn to talk to women, this fucking guy?
1:01:54Ben Mandelker: Yeah, well, this is someone who just gets berated by his parents all the time. Probably for good reason, because he has done nothing with his life. And so then that makes him feel stupid. So he takes it out on people who are close to him, I'm sure. And so that's what he's doing here. Plus, he's probably on coke.
1:02:08Ronnie Karam: so if i was friends with georgia i would give her one of those little machines with but like one of those little keychain things with different buttons and then every time you press it there's a different sound effect that comes out and i would just fill it with anwar quotes like you're a stupid bitch georgia oh really you're the stupid little bitch ass motherfucker who doesn't even remember what floors used to stop on before it went to penthouse stupid stupid you got pooned right now hey charlie just want to let you know georgia gave me your speakers
1:02:41Ben Mandelker: ha ha ha try to get them you could retrieve them if you remember what floor you were raised on
1:02:46Ronnie Karam: um what are you you get money from your fucking dad like 10 grand a month because you're pathetic and you never had to work a day in your life because yeah guess what you're fucking dirt poor Dirt poor. Oh, really? Oh, really? She's dirt poor, huh? How come you need speakers because you can't even speak? Stupid. Nobody even knows what you're saying, dumb face.
1:03:09Ben Mandelker: Quiet, Keychain. Georgia, you're here because of me. Well, you're going to call me dirt poor? Are you serious? Just because I have dirty palms doesn't mean I'm dirty poor.
1:03:19Ronnie Karam: And she's like, the fact that I have to work for a living bothers you? She goes, yeah, you're here because you're on this TV show because of me. She goes, you're fucking pathetic. You're almost 30. You're a joke. Hold on. Boop. I would rather get my nutsack stuck in jean zipper again than ever look at your stupid face. I regret the moment Spum ever came out of me and hit an egg. Okay?
1:03:41Ben Mandelker: Look at you. So pathetic that you have to have arguments with dirt poor people instead of other rich people. You're sad. Boop.
1:03:48Ronnie Karam: If you wanted to argue with rich people, we had plenty of them to raise you that you could call stupid bitches. Don't do this in public, you loser.
1:03:56Ben Mandelker: Bloop. Also, why do you have so much oil and vinegar there at your table? Too much. Don't need it on this salad.
1:04:03Ronnie Karam: Now you're a fat stupid talking to poor person.
1:04:08Ben Mandelker: Bloop. Why do you have such poor people condiments? I raise you to have better condiments.
1:04:14Ronnie Karam: So he goes, yeah, you know what? If I was your man, I would slap you. And she's like, what is that even? Why does it have to get to violence, Charlie? God, everyone fucking hates you, Charlie. You dig your own grave.
1:04:27Ben Mandelker: Danny's sitting there like,
1:04:28Ronnie Karam: you won't even need a grave because you'll be flattened all over the front of a subway train when I push you into it, stupid head.
1:04:36Ben Mandelker: Aw, poor Charlie. You know when he dies someday he wants his ashes scattered at sea. Too bad, because I'm getting mine scattered at ocean just a little bit bigger. Sorry, you lose.
1:04:47Ronnie Karam: So Charlie leaves. These two really went at it. I mean, this was crazy. It was vicious. Georgia does not even skip a beat. She's like, whatever. What a loser.
1:04:58Ben Mandelker: I know. And Danny is like, oh, my God, that was a lot. Wait, should we have a rich kid theme party? I think that'd be great. This was actually this fight was so nasty. And it's exactly what we think of when we think of like the rich kids in New York City having these kind of fights. Like this is I was like, this cannot be real. Like this was and I'm not I'm not doubting the authenticity of it. I'm like, I just can't believe it. It's like this is real.
1:05:20Ronnie Karam: But good for Georgia. She went right toe to toe with that guy and didn't give a fuck.
1:05:24Ben Mandelker: Yeah, she shut him down.
1:05:25Ronnie Karam: And he's really a guy who gets mean with everybody because he's insecure or whatever. And she does not give a fuck. She's like, I can go toe to toe with you.
1:05:32Ben Mandelker: He's like literally a stereotype from some poorly written movie about rich kids in New York City. Like he really does say the things that you don't really think rich kids would really say. But he actually is saying it. Like anytime you see those movies where it's like the rich bully who's like, whatever, you're just like poor. you're like people don't even the rich kids don't really say that but actually it turns out maybe
1:05:56Ronnie Karam: they do yeah really really really gross um which of the i guess he's not part of the brat pack i'm trying to think of the 80s actor he reminds me of he i thought he was in the brat pack but he's not he's not anthony michael hall emilio roblo andrew mccarthy he's none of those he's always a little
1:06:15Ben Mandelker: bit like Emilio. Just a little bit.
1:06:18Ronnie Karam: Yeah, but it was a guy who was blonde and he always played the villain in those movies, like a preppy villain. Yeah. There's always a bunch of those. Oh, he's famous now. He was in, he had his own detective show. Oh, God, it's going to make me crazy. I'll come up with it someday. Yes, it was Monk. He's so Monk right now.
1:06:39Ben Mandelker: It was not Anthony Michael Hall?
1:06:41Ronnie Karam: Mm-mm.
1:06:44Ben Mandelker: It's his own detective show.
1:06:45Ronnie Karam: he's famous now for a while he had that show where the girl worked in the fbi and he was like it was like a silence of the lambs ripoff and he was oh james spader james spader yes he would be played by james spader in the 80s yeah he would be good call uh so thank you for that because that would have made me fucking crazy all day thank you so much for
1:07:09Ben Mandelker: being you and how dare you erase james spader from the brat pack you totally was part of the Brad Peck. He was?
1:07:14Ronnie Karam: Well, I didn't erase him, but Google A did. You know, he is very much a part of that whole group. I thought he was, but he was not included on the Google A. Okay, so Danny is still, Danny's like, oh my god, that was next level. What type of speaker was it? She goes, it was like some$200 Bose speaker. What a fucking loser.
1:07:36Ben Mandelker: I mean, you pretty much just get that at the supermarket next to the Reese's Pieces of Peanut Butter Cups,
1:07:41Ronnie Karam: right so george is still going it's like calling me poor like i pay my own rent if you didn't have daddy's money you'd be on the street tomorrow like wow crypto trader he's probably made 300 okay he brings girls out doesn't have his own credit card because he can't and then he has other people cover the bills fuck that guy i mean you would have thought like you know you
1:08:04Ben Mandelker: fucked his brother or something she's like yeah like literally like like his mom yeah like his dad yeah like fucked his aunt yeah fucked his uncle yeah like fucked his cousin uh are there any other family members left to fuck no i don't think so okay we did good job with that
1:08:20Ronnie Karam: fuck this maid i wouldn't go that far i'm not that poor and danny's like that was so unreal i'm putting it on the grid she goes yeah like literally insane i'm done with that human i'm done it's gonna be great for charlie to watch this back and see how
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