#2921 RHOA S16E18 Part 1: Eady Come, Eady Go

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1:55Ben Mandelker: Who cares what happens when there's so much that crap ends?

2:25Ben Mandelker: from the Elvis Duran and the morning show. We have Diamond Cooper and Andrew Puglisi. How are you guys? Andrew, did I say your name correctly? Did I do your name correctly? Yeah, Puglisi, it's the same. Puglisi, I said Puglisi. I added in an I. I apologize. As someone who has a last name, who's people also bungle, I feel terrible that I passed along that trauma onto your name as well. It's fine. I'll talk to my therapist later. thank you so much for being here both uh to talk about the real housewives of atlanta reunion episode um we just finished talking uh we had a very big episode talking about the uh not the atlanta the love island finale and family day episodes so that's on patreon go to patreon.com slash watch for crappins uh andrew and diamond were kind enough to join me both today and on Friday to break down the final two episodes of Love Island.

3:21Ben Mandelker: We had a lot of fun. Uh, we have a lot of, a lot of opinions. And, uh, if you want to hear them, go check that out. But in the meantime, we are here today to talk Atlanta. So first and foremost, uh, diamond, you have been watching the whole season. You are an, well, we all are avid Bravo fans, but diamond, every time I've gone to Elvis Duran in the morning show. I'm always, thank you for having me. We always have like first like 30 minutes of like, just talking straight up Bravo and we get into it at each and every time. And, um, and I'm, that's why I'm very excited to have you guys both here.

4:00Ben Mandelker: So, so diamond, you and I get real deep, real quickly about all these things all the time. And Andrew, you are still on your journey. You are learning different shows and I am so excited for you um thank you i mean i i have my favorites my favorite is uh um i atlanta started with this one it's been a fun journey i think i would continue the atlanta i'd go back um there's a lot there my favorite real housewives and i know i don't want to sound like the artsy kid but like real housewives of vancouver is the best series of housewives ever period get high you get a bpn and go watch that one because that is the best oh honey i love that oh and miami i like miami too okay redemption um i like that that made you the artsy kid like i'm the artsy kind of like vancouver you wouldn't know about it you wouldn't know about vancouver diamond diamond um so how do you feel about atlanta this season diamond um last season i wanted it to be completely done i wanted a full no i don't even want reboots anymore so last season i was like i'm okay if it never comes back this season was better than last season it just missed the mark incredibly like it by by far um i was really happy that porsha was back um i was happy that shamia was there because we've always been like kind of teased by her where it's just like she's there but then we don't really see much and then we knew that there were things and well i follow her on instagram where i did at one point and i saw that you know what was going on with her daughter when she had her daughter so i'm like i want to i want to know more um we saw the news about kenya very early on so we knew that something was going to happen i've never been a big kenya fan so i was kind of like okay great whatever i didn't know that i would hate brit by the end of the season um so it's just like it did something it didn't do what it needed to do let's put it like that for me yeah i think that's fair i um i actually enjoyed this season more than i thought i would uh i thought it actually started off really really well and i think that it after everything happened with kenya it just was they were trying to kind of like figure out what to do after that.

6:27Ben Mandelker: I think that they had an idea of how the season was going to go. It got all derailed. And so they sort of treaded water there for a few weeks and then, you know, Phaedra coming in at the end was like, she didn't do much, but she was, I think what we saw was a really good energy between her and Portia and Cynthia. A really good dynamic that was like really fun to watch. So they righted the ship a little bit. I think Angela was the find for the season, right? 10 out of 10. 10 out of 10 a lot yeah yeah andrew approves and andrew's angela stan this is my only season watching of atlanta so for me i know none of the connections with anything and as like a watcher just this one season like just say picking this up just say like a soft reboot i have to say all the characters are very fun i like except right i like a lot thank you except for it i think they all work really well together cynthia i feel like i i want to i want to know her she seems so nice you want to know her yeah i think cynthia was like one of the she was on for a really long time and then she left because she decided to go marry someone in la and she thought that that was the life that she was going to live but she's back she's back all right well cynthia i mean i think i think her as a friend is a good lane for her she even admits it as much in this reunion i think that's a good lane because we get to visit with Cynthia, but we don't have to be burdened with her storylines, which are not, not always been the most thrilling or exciting.

8:02She wasn't entertaining. She was at her husband was entertaining at one point. And then, and her, her friendships were entertaining and the fallout of both were entertaining. But then when it was time for her to carry something on her own, I don't think she clocked in the way that she should have. Yeah. Yeah.

8:19Ben Mandelker: Yeah. She was, you know, yeah, she's I think friend of you know some people really thrive in the friend of role and I think that she's one of those maybe so but yeah I thought like overall I think Angela like was a was a great find I think Kelly is is decent she's like very up and down it's like I want to I think she had a lot of promise at the beginning of the season and then she didn't really quite deliver on it but she sort of perked up there at the end a little bit right where do you stand on Kelly Diamond first of all too much screaming from this woman I'm like, I know that you're used to yelling in the kitchen of your restaurant, but we there's a mic attached to you.

8:57You have to lower the tone. It's too loud. I just she roughed me the wrong way from the beginning, just because like the moment you meet Portia, you're talking about. Did you steal this? Did you steal this woman's husband? I know that that's something that we all wanted to know. And like we wanted to see that type of conversation happen. but I think she was too she let like social media produce her a little too much in the beginning like she felt like I have to ask this question you know it's gonna come out like just let it ride like take your time she's just team too much and I'm okay without her honestly she yeah she was

9:32Ben Mandelker: like see I think that like when she started off with that energy of like I'm new I'm not afraid to ask questions I was actually like okay I'm okay with this I mean it was very it was a thirsty moment for sure but at the same time i was like i like that she wasn't carrying away but she actually did start to she then sort of just like receded into this corner of the show where she would just like make breakfast with her girls and then talk about i'm getting divorced like that's some exciting bombshell new thing that's never happened on reality tv before so i was like i was like show me the waffles i've been waiting all season for her her damn waffles we finally got got to see them in a Williams Sonoma of all places.

10:09But I just felt like I'm fine with her.

10:15Ben Mandelker: I felt like she just did not. She wasn't as impactful as I would have liked. But I think that like her reunion performance was decent. Good enough. Like I think she's like mid, mid, but she's not a fail. If that makes sense. You know, maybe not a fail. Not a fail. I guess maybe we should aspire for more than not a fail on this show. Maybe that's the problem. Yeah. Like when you have someone like Angela there who has a marriage that everyone is questioning, failed real estate flips and stuff like that. And she's like bringing the drama and dropping things here and there. I'm like, now that is what you call a winner.

10:58I love Angela. she's so funny and i love how every situation she always seems like she's like now what do we have here she's like asking a question as she's like talking about you like i love yeah she's very

11:13Ben Mandelker: funny she has like a slow burn about her like there's something she takes her fingers she always puts them in the air like she's like she's saying like mama mia she's always like doing a mama mia hand but then she's but she then she shakes them at you but she's asking a question And she's like, now why would you go to the store? And I don't know what it is. Like there's something about like her slow delivery. Yes. That is. And like her lines are often very, her comebacks are often very clunky. And yet she lands them every time they just work in a way that is really love, you know? Yeah. Some people just have it.

11:48Ben Mandelker: Some real housewives just have an X factory where you just know you love them and you can't explain why. And you're like, yes, she is in, she's a star. Kelly, eh, maybe one more. season right you know yeah she better wow me next year i'm gonna start the petition okay well let's get her out change.org okay so why don't we get into this reunion so it starts off we're at it's we're at the studios you know reunion tradition which is that we never just start with a reunion we have to watch people walk into the reunion and watch them getting ready like it's a boxing match so they're all arriving and the first significant thing that happens is that phaedra goes into brit's dressing room and no one is there no brit is nowhere to be found and as we all know brit did not go to the reunion so they're all dumbfounded what did you think do you guys think that brit should have shown up and and and stood in her truth or are you happy just to be spared to brit for for an episode um i think oh okay i think that she should have been there especially based off of like the amount of shit that she talked all season like just just this like i'm a tough guy type of vibe you know that she gave off where she would start like really um attacking them verbally like whoever she was arguing with or anything that like bothered her in the slightest she'd snap in a way that was like when you go low i go lower yeah are we preparing for a fight and so like i felt like this would have been her time to redeem herself but also if i was production she probably was a liability for them like do are we sure that she's not gonna do anything um but then i'm honestly happy because i can't with that nasally I can't I was happy about that the whole time I watched I was like is this how she really sounds the whole time like I can't do a whole 17 episodes of I'm just saying I don't know I couldn't I'm like I it's a lot and I think what's hard is that like you know there's certain like lanes that housewives take and she took the like you said when you go low I go lower lane of Brandi Glanville um leah mcsweeney maybe and some others who've just sort of done that path where it's like oh they're always gonna they're always looking for that fight and then they're tamra you know like oh well i'm just you know but i just it's when i'm backed into a corner i fight i fight i fight but i really love you you know they always have that same arc but those people also like they flourish at the reunion like that's what they they have that persona and then at the reunion they go nuts and they go crazy that's almost like what they look forward to so it's wild that she adopted that persona or she led with that and then was like yeah but i'm not i'm also can't follow this through at the reunion like that's supposed to be your prime forum i don't think that she would have the she what you were saying before about angela she's able to like i don't know make her point even if it's not coming across right you could still follow the plot line i feel like when brit is arguing it's just so low that like that's all she knows pretty much how to do that she couldn't make her points and she would get very frustrated and probably just leave anyway she would look for the moment that she could walk off the couch and they would follow her and it would be the brit show that you'd be annoyed by the whole time and that's nobody wants to watch that there's like seven other people on this cast is it possible that um that like state farm told or you're not allowed to go on the reunion because they remember she was getting her license taken away like yes her license was under review for what kenya more did i texted you about that i'm like this insurance business is not that serious like you set up your own llc i know it's not that serious you're probably petitioning on facebook to get clients it can't be that like it's not that deep and Angela clocked her with that whole mess.

15:55Like, she's like, they don't really do that unless it's something very serious. Like,

16:00Ben Mandelker: yeah, I don't understand what Brit is like. Brit works in insurance, but like can, can afford like these Bentleys or whatever. She's acting like she's balling on like a, but she's like an insurance agent, but like nothing really has added up to like what she does and why she's, why is she so quote unquote successful at all the entire time? Three toilet paper rolls and the$250 donation. And then there was that, and there was that too exactly so anyway they're like looking for her she's like nowhere to be found meanwhile Portia it's like it's 830 in the morning and Portia's just like napping and not in any glam and they're supposed to start at 9am I was like oh this reunion is not starting on time yeah no she's a bare face the wig was just glued on you could tell it hadn't even given time to sit I'm like Portia what are you doing but then also it was hilarious because didn't she walk in still before Drew yeah i think yeah she did they were all so late like they started this reunion at at like three hours late and i and like andy was surprisingly not upset by it i think it's because he knew they were going to be late so they just he was just like just let me know when they're ready plus they were also let's be honest probably trying to figure out what to do now that brit wasn't going to be there they had to probably rethink all the questions in the order of everything instead so it probably worked out well but i'd love when borsha was lying there and she's saying how she told Britt like, no, I said like take some magnesium.

17:25Ben Mandelker: I mean, I took about three. Patra's like, don't do that. You're having diarrhea. She's like, oh, is that why I have diarrhea?

17:36What are you talking about? Magnesium for a reunion.

17:40Ben Mandelker: I don't know what magnesium does, but I didn't know you were supposed to use it to treat anxiety. Yeah, I thought it puts you to sleep. Like it helps you go to sleep. not like but I think it's also in like Pepto-Bismol so it like stuttles your stomach but it could also like work in mysterious ways for other reasons I don't know yeah it was a lot so they all come out the dress code is like C-3PO everything's like gold metallics which by the way Alandria on Love Island finale night was very on trend for the Atlanta reunion she also was wearing a gold like a gold bodice so they all have different they come out three hours late in different variations of this some may be more successful than others which ones did you think looked best and which ones did you guys think worse if you can remember oh Portia definitely 10 out of 10 she looked great yeah I loved it shiny and also hers was more goldenrod as opposed to big bird yellow which is where like maybe Drew Sedora went and some others another one that I like I liked Shamia's Kelly looked a mess but the worst oh I didn't like Phaedra's like headpiece and earrings I think that took away from everything I don't even remember what her dress looked like she just had these big enormous earrings that were like they were like rainbows but they were not they're like giant semicircles that were swinging around and everyone had there were so many metallics and bangles going on that the entire reunion sound like people like moving silverware around it was so clanky everything was clanky hates to see the cast coming by far the worst was uh drew and i think that she needs to she looked horrible but she always looks horrible um and then no she does no she does she does you know um i i think that hopefully after this uh her and portia can mend things because one of the worst things was her hair and i like i don't know you can't talk shit about go naked hair and now you have to go find another hair company whose quality isn't as good i didn't like it i just was like and then this little she like uh tried to do like a little edge thing here yeah i can't and then her makeup was everything was sort of like really uh there was one point where there was like a shot of her close up and i was just like she just looked deranged.

20:13She looked like

20:16Ben Mandelker: she had just fallen in a dumpster or something. It was crazy. But like Big Bird's dumpster because it's like all his feathers are all over the place. Also, has feathers ever looked good on a dress? Ever. Like, I'm not even talking about that. There was someone in blue once. Who was that? I think that was Atlanta too. Was it Marlo? It was someone. Maybe it was Portia. Maybe it was Portia herself. Well, there was a cast photo once where they were, I don't remember. It's time for a commercial. It's time for a Crappens commercial. This episode is sponsored by Butterball Turkey. Butterball. Care hard.

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22:14Ben Mandelker: A collection of beautiful, clean fragrances shaped exactly to your home. Choose your sense of place at Pura.com. by the way just to just to check in um so andrew since you're new you don't have the full breadth of drusadora but uh diamond where do you stand on drusadora can't stand her i want her gone i wanted her gone last season um and and this i used to love drusadora right she was in step up as drusadora she was in the game as drusadora so like i've been a fan of hers when she first signed on to do this show i was like oh okay like great like she's gonna be great and then maybe like episode four of last season i was like yeah hard no for me because you realize that she's a liar she's lied so much she's been caught in all her lies but yet she still continues to double down and it's just like i don't want this like i can't um yeah i didn't like her working with uh Dennis.

23:20I didn't like it.

23:21Ben Mandelker: And so hot dog, hot dog purveyor turned music producer, Dennis. Yes. Which is also kind of scammy, but you know what? I, you know, I love a short King, so I'm going to stand beside him a little bit in this, but, but like, I just, I felt like it was a little messy. Like Portia's kind of putting money in your pocket and Drew is very messy. I am like I have felt like drew has been a scam artist for a while. Really. I think it really kicked in with the, um, with her drop it with drew, um, endeavor where she was like, I lost 60 pounds in one week. And I was like, okay, you are a scammer. And, um, I, I, I was like, I was like, drew has to go.

24:02Ben Mandelker: But I think I've come around to realize that like one of the fun parts of these shows is having those diluted scammers on. And when they just like spin their bullshit and just like laugh at them, like you are so, because she's so bad at it like she's so blatantly like she blatantly lies also i did take a little offense diamond and what you said you mentioned her credits you said that she was in step up and the game i think you forgot todd tucker's the pass as juiced dora todd tucker's oh where she started dating uh what's her they were friends tie and we're just friends please pack it up i can't with this woman there was the one divorce scene and she's like he wants 40 of my llc in my head i often feel like whenever the housewives like throw a business in someone's face and they're like they want 40 of my llc how much is in this llc is my question and what is the and it's drew sadora llc so she named her own company after herself but where what's what's being licensed like i have so many questions i'm not sure what recently is but if she got if she's getting any sort of like royalties or getting any percentages from those movies she has been in a lot of like a lot of movies like sort of that you don't realize the game religiously to this day so she's getting she's making money off of me for sure she if it's anything like elvis's checks from uh die hard that man gets two cents no babe she's she's getting more than that i don't think he needs an llc for that one well at the very least at the very least she's definitely getting her salary from this very show in there.

25:34Ben Mandelker: And Ralph Ralph has a whole other issue and we will get to him because he of course makes a cameo. It's not a good reunion until Ralph shows up. So we start with Andy who does his typical thing where he's like, welcome to the Real Housewives of Atlanta. I'm Andy Cohen. Now after 16 years, Atlanta has always reigned supreme. But this season came with a bit of a facelift, a remix, and a whole new vibe. One of our juiciest peaches made her grand return. Four new peaches hit the group chat. One OG clocked out. Another clocked in. A peach fell on the floor. A peach rolled off the cart and someone else stepped on a peach and started off spicy.

26:12Ben Mandelker: Got sweet. Then spicy more. Then stay shady all the way. It goes on for like 10 minutes. I'm like, we get it. We're back at the reunion. We understand. His chat GBT was working overtime for that intro. So now, since Brit wasn't there, I got the distinct feeling that they had to fill up so much time with like meaningless patter it was like hey shamia how are you it's like i'm good good good to see you shamia so how's your car doing now did you get new mats in it for your feet yes i did oh that's great where'd you get those mats what do you hey porsha what do you think about shamia's mats in her car it's like it felt like it was like endless like you know chatter by the way i was also really happy with shamia's hair at the reunion because i I did not like her hair all season long.

27:02Ben Mandelker: I felt like it was, I felt like it was like very matronly and I wanted her to like, look like she's trying to break into singing. Like, don't look so matronly, you know, that Bob, that shortcut. It wasn't it. I didn't love it. Like, it was like fine as like a general look, but I, I just wanted her to be like a little bit more chic, you know, cause I love me some Shamia or at least I have historically loved her. And so I just want her to be like a little more, you know? Yeah. the bob last night was she ate that she ate it up it looks really good she definitely ate it she ate it like a peach so um and he's like those jamia from plus one to the one and she's like i mean corny yeah and then she told me that of course and she's like i mean that's what they say and he's like do they say that i'm like i love andy like immediately he's like i'm gonna call you this thing and then I'm going to act like no one's ever and then I'm going to totally retract it.

28:00Ben Mandelker: Do people ever say that to you? It's like you just said it Andy. Yeah literally. So he goes around the horn. He says hi to everyone. Angela has her fan. I think she's selling those fans now right? Is that what I heard? Yeah for Angela's. I may buy it. I may buy one. I might buy one too. And Andy asked Kelly if she brought any chicken and waffles. I was like I'm not even sure she owns a waffle iron at this point. I don't think so. I don't think she knows how to do it. What sort of lazy self-promotion has Kelly been doing all season? There should have been waffles everywhere. It should not have been one episode late in the season.

28:37Ben Mandelker: She made so many meals with her kids. Every single thing coming out of that kitchen should have been a waffle. I don't care what time of day it was. It should have been waffles nonstop. Or at least get a cricket machine that you could put your logo on things. I don't know. Just product placement, something. Order waffle fries, something. get something with a waffle yes she do you remember i don't know this is really specific andrew won't know this but diamond maybe you will yeah sorry there is one season where sheree went to meet someone at like a breakfast spot and she's like uh what's she was asking the waitress she's like what's a womlet like it's a waffle omelet she goes i'll have that and that's always stuck with me that sheree sheree got a womlet it was she got a an omelet that was made in a waffle iron and i always thought that was so funny and i just so sheree too because you know like all day long she was like i just had a womlet you ever hear of a womlet before you have a womlet you ever had a womlet did you hear what they um they referenced her about kelly's waffle oh my god yes summer when is that coming out spring summer that's always bad when someone when someone pulls that joke out on you it's like haha it's a joke but they're basically telling you yeah you're yeah it's not happening you're not you're not doing you're not doing what you need to be doing right now you know so andy's like well as you may have noticed brit ed has decided not to join us today and they keep on highlighting this because they keep on doing this wide shot of the other sofa with all this negative space where Brit was supposed to be.

30:16Ben Mandelker: And at one point, they just do a close-up of a pillow, just an empty seat with a pillow. I was like, does the pillow of Brit have anything to say? Were you looking forward to Brit reclining on you? No? Okay. What seat would she have been on the couch? They left a spot at the end. Oh, so she would have been the end? Yeah. She would have been the end after it would have been Portia and then is Portia and then what's her face? Phaedra and then Brit. Yeah, because Phaedra was nice to Brit. So I think that's where they would have had her. And then Brit could have gone up against Kelly that way face to face.

30:55Ben Mandelker: But yeah, she decided not to join. And so Andy asked like what everyone's thoughts are. And Kelly's basically saying, well, you know, she caused mass destruction in our friend group. You know, she plays a victim and villain at the same time. And Phaedra's saying how like, you know, we're a sisterhood we're in a sorority together and you know if she wasn't comfortable enough to call me like whatever but like we're whether you like it or not we're in sisterhood but isn't it funny because like didn't phaedra also just like quit marriage to medicine like yes she did which is why her being on this season was the real flop like yeah she literally said that she only filmed 10 days with these women and so like what was the point yeah what was the point so the whole end of the season like the last six episodes are all just from 10 days yeah she basically went on vacation with him and then shot like two scenes like yeah which is it also says like clearly you see how they had to amend their shooting schedule because of everything with kenya which is why the whole season got messed up i always have a theory that when someone gets fired or someone leaves midway through it messes up the entire season because they plan out like every beat of a season They know exactly what they want to happen.

32:06Ben Mandelker: So when they have to like think on the fly, it's, it's like a disaster, but yeah. So no one knew that she wasn't going to come and, uh, you know, and everyone's like upset because they were going to like, you know, they basically wanted to confront her about all her lies and all her bullshit, you know, but she obviously, and by the way, there's no like admission of better admission of guilt and not showing up the reunion. And once you do that, then it's like, it's like not showing up at court. You're just automatically guilty. of everything yeah right yep yeah and then the whole like i'm suing the network and stuff like girl please yeah please well she's saying that like it wasn't even her on the posters but she's suing the network because the network bravo made her think it was her and so the distress of that what created a hostile work environment what which yeah apparently so um our friend Ceci who does um the bravo docket podcast she said like yeah it's actually like she does have some grounds there some legal grounds but i still think it's i still think she's bullshit full of bullshit yeah yeah i want from a fenix kinko's poster board geez yeah be careful be careful what you put on your phone phone cord you know do you guys do you think that kenya should come back next season or do you think that what she did was actually was just like too awful um i don't think she should come back i do think what she did was awful um but i think that bravo does need to take some of the blame because they've allowed her to do things the entire time that she's been on the show that have like i feel like we could have seen this coming it's been a build-up she showed us who she was a long time ago i don't think that we thought that she would go as far as she did but the the signs were always there so like do i blame her for thinking that this was another thing that she could get away with maybe not if they if they let her get away with so much in the past like she's gonna test those boundaries right so like and she had a lot of stuff to say when nini left and then she tried to you know spin spin the block now last summer and and you know try to stir up the same type of argument oh if this was a white house wife then you know she would have gotten a pass and i'm like you don't get to do that when you turned your back on nini when she was trying to make that point or case so yeah no i think that she should be exactly where nini is you know somewhere off camera somewhere somewhere off somewhere out there as Linda runs that one saying.

34:47Ben Mandelker: So, um, Portia, yes, I did just equate Kenya to Fievel and his sister. So, um, so then like we, it's like 10 minutes of this pattern. And then finally, Andy is like, okay, now we're going to start. But first, does anyone want to set an intention? Cause this is what he does now. Does anyone want to set an intention, which is hilarious? Cause no one, all the intentions are always bullshit. It's like, I would like to set an intention that I can stop being so great and I can listen to other people. There's always these very self-serving intentions. But like, sure. And so Portia is saying that she wants to set an intention today to honor who we are and where we are in whatever space, which literally means nothing to me.

35:36Ben Mandelker: What does that even mean? Not a damn thing. Not a damn thing. I'm like, girl, sit down. like stay where you are and just and Portia's like she's like I'm really here to figure out like what's going on in the way forward and how we're gonna like close the door Portia literally says that with every like sit down scene she has with someone and she always storms out every single time so the fact that she's saying I want to like just really hear the issues and close the door I'm like I don't why do I feel like that's not really gonna happen this time it's a fun house there's many doors and she just keeps closing them why do we take anything that she says like peace talk wise why do we take that seriously after the way she behaved on her spinoff like you try to fight your child's grandmother girl i don't want to hear about peace talks and peace treaties and shit like go away like i i can't i can't yeah so um so now we go to commercial break and we come back it's like welcome back we just spent 10 minutes saying hello to everyone and we had a commercial break when there was not even a cliffhanger so the fact that you came back is amazing let's give a warm welcome to the best friend real assets of Atlanta has ever had which is by the way disrespectful to both Shamiya and to Marlo the one and only Cynthia Cheekbones Bally great to see you wow Marlo and Shamiya put in years in the friend of bench and Cynthia does one season, like three quarters of a season and Hinde's like, you're the best friend we ever had on this show ever.

37:09Ben Mandelker: You did so effortlessly. So she's back. They put her on the bench. She's probably out way earlier than she was expected but they're like, we don't have anyone. Bring out Cynthia. Can't keep shooting that same couch cushion. Yeah, because she sits there and then she says almost nothing for the rest of the episode. They're like, there's too much negative space on our two shots. Um, so Andy, she said, you know, she says she actually really loved being, um, uh, a friend of, cause she's like, you know, I've been through so many different things that people are going through. I've been through divorce and I've been married and I've been through friendship breakups and I was able to be supportive.

37:49Ben Mandelker: And I was like, yes. And you were boring through all of those things too. Beautiful, but boring. I loved her. She was so fun on the show. I bet you did. I need to go back and rewatch these older seasons just to see like, she was much better as a friend of she really like, I feel like she really came more to life as a friend of, I think that as like a main cast member, sometimes it was a real struggle. She had moments, she had moments. She was very likable, but like every time I was like, Oh, we're going to have a Bailey Q. I was just like, Oh God, back to the lake house. Yeah. Like Bailey. Like, come on.

38:26Ben Mandelker: It just didn't really go off the same way as Chateau Charest, you know? um so they talk a bit about her and her man Amsterdam etc and like how she's older he's like 39 and you know I have a thing where I don't really care too much about uh people we never see you know yeah yeah like I you know when they ask questions about like love interests were off camera and then we've never seen them ever before I don't generally get into that you know yeah nobody cares right because i think that we're conditioned now to feel like well if it didn't happen on the show then it's not real right like remember the africans like okay we never we don't we have no clue who they are so like let it go you know i i can't and this guy doesn't even live in america like what are we doing so now we go to so now after we have like checking with cynthia andy is like okay Yeah, well, this season was really meant to be your happily ever after, Portia.

39:26Ben Mandelker: But after falling for divorce from your would-be Prince Charming and getting sucked back into some drama with the Hot Dog King, you did everything you could to protect your kingdom and most of all your peace. Here's how that worked. I was like, whoa. I was like waiting for a pun to drop. You know, it's funny because I make fun of Andy for all his sweaty puns all the time. But then when there isn't one, I'm like, wait a second. Where is the pun? I guess the Prince Charming and Happily Ever After and Kingdom, maybe they're trying to build a fairytale thing in there a little bit. Yeah, it's almost there.

40:00Ben Mandelker: I'll give them some marks. Solid B. Solid B. So we're in the Portia segment, so she talks about her cousin Londi, which is so sad, so sad about Londi. That was so sad, I felt bad. Yeah, that was really, really, that was terrible. And then Andy is saying how it was really great to see Portia's house. I feel like the Portia's house storyline felt a little half-baked to me this season, right? Like we opened up the season with her being upset that she couldn't film in her own house. And then we kind of like dropped that thread. And then in the season finale, out of nowhere, we had this like little coda where she's like, by the way, guess what?

40:39Ben Mandelker: I can film in my house again. Felt a little, felt a little ham-fisted. What did you think, Diamond? And she's at the house and she's just walking on her treadmill in the finale. Yeah. With makeup on. was make up all this build up to her treadmill finally you can see my routine i think what they tried to do especially because like you know um i've read her book and there were certain things in her book that she i guess couldn't talk about on the show but you saw it like happening so like um early on when she left not when she left cordell but when she was put out i guess basically when they got a divorce she said that like she had to rent the house uh to film in that was quote-unquote her mom's house they didn't have money for it or whatever so i guess like a part of her personal storyline is like there's always like a house situation remember the mat when she finally did buy this house the mat was too small and blah blah blah oh yeah of course i think that that's like personal to her for some reason but i don't think that she realizes that we don't care it wasn't translated to us in a way it wasn't like presented to us with like emotional stakes like that it was just kind of like oh yeah that sucks that she can't film in her house um it's like okay go somewhere else also why are we fighting over homes like you have the means to just go and move and start life over since you really want to start over girl get let it go to be fair to be fair as the season went on i could understand why she was upset she couldn't film in her home because it was like her other options were to go to like Brit Eadie's like a cramped townhome or Kelly's like one bedroom apartment so like I'm like you know what like maybe there maybe there's something to it she's like I am a celebrity I do not want to film in these small spaces like I have a living room you know there is Shamia's Shamia's place that has the elevator in it as well but yeah amazing there yeah Shamia's got some real money and I feel like it's like real money you know a lot of times on these shows we were just talking about right before we started recording we talked about the new girl on miami stephanie you know there are these people that come on who are very wealthy but you kind of feel like they are harboring huge amounts of like debt and bankruptcy and lawsuits like that's just like hidden off camera but i feel like with shamia i feel like that money is like solid you know that's like air conditioner money that's like Yeah.

43:03Obscure jobs. If your husband has an obscure job title, if he's a port-a-potty person who cleans the port-a-potties, if he's the person that like, I don't know, puts the seats in movie theaters, they have real money because they're the first in. Real estate?

43:18Ben Mandelker: Yeah, real estate.

43:23Ben Mandelker: There's grift going on there. Air conditioners at the largest airport in the country. that elevator is that elevator there's money for that elevator and all the repairs it will ever need okay it's a wonka elevator goes up down left right she could fly around her house all over the place that's the type of it was a wonka it is a wonka original okay air conditioner money that's that's how you get through in life um so i'm i'm happy for shimian that i think she has that real money there.

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46:59It's not fair.

47:03Ben Mandelker: So then also we talk about Simon being detained by ice, which I didn't realize had already happened by the time this reunion happened. That's crazy that Simon is being detained by ice right now. I'm assuming he's still in there, right? We haven't heard that he got out, right? No, he's out. He's out. And he's in, I think he's in Dubai now. Wow. Yeah. I wonder how that, how can you can you still how does that work with the divorce if some if your partner got deported i mean i guess theresa judas did it right all right yeah i didn't even think about that the original the real pioneer of bravo deportation joe judas if he comes back into the cut does she does he owe her money i think she gets something no she gets i mean she gets something i'm at she whatever it is things have to be ironed out you know and i don't know if like if you if the person you're divorcing gets sent to another country can they just be like whatever good luck see you later yes that is true because someone i know their ex-husband fled the country and only recently did they serve him papers at a music festival but it took three and a half years for him to come back in the country oh no we would have to fight but i'm not gonna hold my life up like that he owed him like so much money that like they think you can't you can't tell dubai oh make me get this check from this man they're gonna be like yeah you can't extradite i think that if you flee the country or like uh while someone's well now and to be fair simon did not flee the country he was deported because we're living in this state right now of like ice doing this to people but super cool but like but i think it actually in this case it probably worked out for him in terms of like a divorce situation because now you're like okay I don't want to have to deal with this but and I'm not saying it worked out for him in all situations because it's not it's still you know terrible what's happening but I do think though that if you flee the country during a divorce I think it should be like not showing up at the reunion I think it's like okay you're automatically guilty you forfeit everything yeah I think that should be a law if you if you willingly leave and again And Simon did not willingly leave.

49:18Ben Mandelker: But if you, or it's like, if you're out of, if you're out of the country for a certain amount of time, not tending to your divorce, then you just forfeit it all. Maybe that is a lot somewhere. I'm glad we're figuring things out on this episode. We're really getting to. Some lawyers definitely listening and it's just like, wrong, wrong, all wrong. Yeah. This is 100 % happening. There are people in our audience that are going to be like, these idiots right now are talking like they have any idea what's going on. and making light of a very serious situation of deportation. But yeah, and Portia does address that people are saying that she called ice on him and she's like, yeah, no, I'm not going to do that.

49:58Ben Mandelker: That's not a funny thing for me at all. So then Andy asks if Gerald and Simon were buddies and Shamia is saying that they were like couples friends. you know um but like she's like you know is he a scammer anything like that like whatever like you know i don't know whatever so um uh andy is now takes a an audience question he's like james james from jersey says kelly why did you really want validation from porsche to see if she messed with that lady's husband were you asking out of concern or to be messy and kelly says this is referencing when she said, why did you take that woman's husband? Kelly says, I was definitely asking out of concern.

50:47You knew she was asking to be messy.

50:50Ben Mandelker: You cannot say you were asking out of concern. You just met this person and you're going to say you were asking out of concern. Please, Kelly. Concern for who? Fallon? She has moved on to her own new mess. Like, what are we talking about? Every time I think of Fallon, I always think of her in her halloween costume remember her halloween costume where she was like in scale she was like in scales she was like medusa and she was running around the golf club and like that's all i think about with the fallon is like is everything i'm talking about fallon being wronged as a wife i just think of her as medusa with the golf club like chasing after someone they had to like pin her down in the garage and this is the woman that we're like literally fighting for i need to watch that because that sounds entertaining honey that was a wild episode well that was also where by the way kenya got into trouble was that episode because she came dressed uh like a native american and she caused quite the stir with that and she had to issue a whole formal apology and do the whole you know uh my culture is not my costume thing like an awareness of that yada yada and so yeah she ever left the show prior to that or was she has she been on the show since the beginning she left for a season uh because she decided to get married and keep it off of the show weird i guess she was looking for a spin-off you know what i think she was looking actually for i think she she was looking for her fairy tale i think she was desperate to have like get married and have a child and she was like i will sacrifice the show if i have to do that and then she of course got attached herself to a true troll of a man and she it's a good lesson why don't like sacrifice your standards just because you have an idea of how you want to live like what you want in your life and also don't talk shit about other people's situations because you never know the cards you'll get down don't like she talked so much shit about people she did things that could have compromised people's marriages and stuff like that you don't play around with stuff like that clarket clarket she she really really did and i think that like mark really kind of ruined kenya as a reality star because she then got dragged into a prolonged custody battle where she had to be on best behavior.

53:03Ben Mandelker: So she couldn't really even be the villain that she was so good at being. And I think she, maybe she lost her touch in those intervening years. So then when she came back for this season, she just, she just really messed up and flopped. And it was a disaster. All for him to be in the background of her lives. Now I'm like, what the, what is going on here? What happened to his girlfriend that she claimed that he, I don't get it. yeah he was terrible so um kelly is trying to claim that she like was asking this question out of concern and but she also said she also feels like portia did not really love uh simon and portia is she's just kind of like um like but we had a conversation about this so why now all of a sudden you're you're acting like this out of nowhere um but then again comparing divorces and stuff and um and basically kelly is like do not compare our divorces it's not okay this you're comparing apples to peaches apples to see get it because we're on real house atlanta peaches you see what i did there oh she snapped snapped for herself she was so proud she was really proud of her apples to peaches moment there you know um and and she's like just don't don't compare our divorces.

54:20Ben Mandelker: And he's like, okay, no one really cares about this. So anyway,

54:27Ben Mandelker: at poopy face from Twitter says, Portia, you know, people think you stole a cast member's husband. So why would you say you would fuck Angela's husband?

54:39Ben Mandelker: She's like, well, let me apologize again. I mean, even though when you found out about it, we talked to Cynthia's event, Angela apologized to me because she brought up the Simon's situation, but let me apologize again. And Angela's like, no, what I said was I didn't drag it. You were the first person to ask about Charles. And you said, I know something about your husband. And so Nashville, I said, why did you take that woman's husband? And Shamia said she introduced you to Simon. And then this turns into a random thing about Shamia denying that she introduced them. And Shamia was like very adamant.

55:14Ben Mandelker: Like I did not, I did not introduce them whatsoever why was this a why was this a sticking point for shamia do you think i don't know because there's clear footage of her saying that she well she said she was there no she said she was in the footage she said i was there when they met but she didn't say i she didn't actually say that she was the one who introduced she just said that she was there when they met but i also didn't understand wasn't did it like what does it matter like if she introduces them or not i don't know i didn't um did you see when andy i think andy clocked in he's like well was this a lie that you guys came up with to make it seem like because they talked about it on the show in the past yeah they said that shamia introduced them and i thought that like shamia had said yeah introduced them but it's weird like okay and andy asks then andy asks um porsche did shamia introduce you to simon and porsche takes like a really long beat and she almost doesn't know how to answer it and then she's like listen he's like wait what wait did she introduce you like what's going on here and and yeah you're right andy's basically like what did you guys come up with like a cover story to hide the fact that you got into his dms and then they're like you know there's a lot of like back and forth on that and so then portia then at that point it's like no no i definitely like i got introduced to him and just it happened okay it happened let me just like let's just like move on so maybe there was something fishy going on here it had to have been because like i i don't i don't know it seemed like such a small point for them to be like stumbling over like like for for for shamia to be all of a sudden denying and it seems like shamia and portia are not in a good place so now i feel like shamia no longer wants to cover for portia which is why she's like i did not i did not introduce them whatsoever oh see i didn't even think of it like that i thought that she was like being a good friend like i'm not gonna tell on you but i don't i don't know it's just very weird and for it to be something that was so like this is not a big deal at all so why are you making it a big deal now we have to pay attention you know cover-up is worse than the story yeah like there was a part of me and it's cringe i i got the feeling like this reunion um like i felt like this this episode there was a lot of like sort of small potatoes fights where i was like i don't know why we're sort of squabbling about this stuff but we're i'm just i was like trying to follow like oh okay so we're okay so kelly's mad that that she's comparing her divorce to hers and now shimia's mad that she's being accused of introducing portia to simon but i'm not sure if i understand like what the um why it all matters you know i was like i felt again i felt like we're just like filling in space because brit wasn't there a little bit you know yeah um so then uh okay well maxine from boulder said drew you said on a recent podcast that Portia's return was a flap and a try hard which coming from Drew says a lot she's the green club I know Andrew is it because you guys share her name is that why yeah tell us Andrew tell us what do you like about Drew I feel like she is like a I don't know like a Heather Gay almost where she wow is she like i i think she knows how to keep the plot moving like she will put herself in the line of fire she will make herself look like a goof if it progresses the plot mind you should she be doing that because then you can ask a lot of questions about what she's doing in her day to day i i just i think that she knows how to play like she's she's in on the joke do you know who's gonna be very happy to hear that true sedora true sedora

59:24she wanted to do that but i don't think she realizes that like if we are laughing we're not laughing with her we're laughing at her like you are so full of bullshit that it's like everybody sees through it besides you those are the characters i love watching on reality television they are oblivious to how they're actually coming off they have the impression in their head that they are like i don't know drew sidora llc apparently has millions of dollars that she can't have 40 going away from but in reality it's like she went on legal zoom and registered her name like it's not a corporate entity that's being traded on the new york stock

1:00:01Ben Mandelker: exchange you never know you never know um so so then drew is based true base is like um persia came on this season she came back here to attack me the entire season to which Portia says I mean she should be worried about who's flipping and flapping in that basement with Ralph don't worry about me which by the way one of my favorite things about this season is that like we have an entire storyline of Ralph being stuck in the basement can I come upstairs like what like honestly for that alone like the season was kind of worth it just like Ralph stuck in the basement and every time they'd mention Ralph they would just like put the camera on the basement staircase like he's down there.

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1:06:12Plug in a Zivo flying insect trap so you can work smarter, not harder, and actually enjoy your time at home.