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14 Jul 2025 · 40m · 13 chapters

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#2922 RHOA S16E18 Part 2: Eady Come, Eady Go

In short

Recap of The Real Housewives of Atlanta season 16 reunion, focusing on unresolved drama and reunion “twists,” including the Dennis/Drew Sedora music-producer storyline, Portia’s reconciliation with Drew, Kelly and Brit’s stylist fallout, Kelly’s bodyguard/ex-husband rumors, and Angela Oakley’s cliffhanger about a supposed Phaedra plot involving “Marcus.”

Guest backgrounds

The hosts are Andrew (Instagram: @andrewpug) and Diamond (Instagram: @diamondsincere). They discuss Bravo/Housewives and also reference Andrew’s work on Elvis Duran in the morning show (nationally syndicated).

Key claims

Dennis’s “producer” role feels implausible; Portia’s hug/apology to Drew is framed as boredom and alliance-building (especially to focus on Shamia). Kelly’s stylist/team issues are portrayed as messy and possibly exploitative. Angela’s “Marcus” evidence is dismissed as weak and possibly production-driven.

Notable examples

Drew’s Breakfast Club comments about Portia; Portia and Drew hugging after fighting; Kelly’s “waffle empire” not materializing; Angela’s binder “receipts” tying Marcus to Phaedra via an aunt’s Kia and high school.

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Chapters

1:07

Confusion Over Dennis's Role

Discussing the perplexity of Dennis's music producer role in the show.

“The bedroom still, the kitchen beginning to stir, and somewhere between the air has already shifted.”
2:20

Drew's Musical Journey

Exploring Drew's singing career and her recent album's reception.

“How did he wind up as this like celebrated producer that Drew Sedor just had to work with?”
4:22

Drew and Dennis's Business Relationship

Analyzing the business dynamic between Drew and Dennis amidst rumors.

“I don't know if she started working with him before Portia said that she was coming back or before that news broke or after.”
5:45

Portia's Apology Discussion

Debating whether Portia owes Drew an apology based on their interactions.

“And they have to like pretend like this is the feud, but they're not really angry about that.”
7:37

The Reunion Dynamic

Examining the dynamics and alliances formed during the reunion episode.

“They're bringing back juice to Dora, especially after that ridiculous storyline she had about like, there's a profit profit lock.”
12:03

Stylists and Drama on the Show

Discussing the influence of stylists in reality TV and ongoing conflicts.

“you want to go where the glamour is, right?”
14:01

Kelly's Stylist Drama

Discussing Kelly's accusations about her stylist being poached.

“I mean, where do you guys stand on this whole stylist's beef that they have going on?”
19:03

Kelly's Stylist Drama

Discussing Kelly's accusations about her stylist being poached.

“one thing that we're both pretty serious about is furniture and our homes that's exactly correct And as summer starts to segue into fall, I'm enjoying the last few moments of beautiful warm air.”
21:51

Alliance and Drama Among Newbies

Exploring the alliances formed among new cast members and their implications.

“Like, yeah, the alliance with Portia doesn't even make sense to me because I just like, why?”
28:00

Waffle Empire and Kitchen Drama

Discussion around Kelly's waffle empire and kitchen challenges.

“I really love that we've tapped in towards your distinct hate for juicer.”
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30:03

Angela Oakley: The Unexpected Star

The evolving role of Angela Oakley in the reunion and her popularity.

“And it's funny because to me in the premiere episode, there was a huge amount of focus on the newbies.”
31:10

Investigating Marcus and Phaedra

Angela discusses the mysterious Marcus and Phaedra's potential involvement.

“And his aunt is a lady by the name of Kimberly Bleep.”
35:38

The Nature of Reality TV Cameos

Insights on the role of temporary characters and the nature of reality TV drama.

“Whereas if it was Drew Sedora, I would be like, she is so thirsty.”
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2:18Ben Mandelker: I still have I'm still confused why Dennis is in the music producer position. I mean, he's a hot dog. He's a hot dog salesman. How did he wind up as this like celebrated producer that Drew Sedor just had to work with? Do you trust Dennis's music? And have you heard any of Drew's new album? I've heard snippets just like a post on Instagram or whatever. It doesn't sound bad. She has an amazing voice like Drew can really sing. But I'm just not buying it. like I'm just like girl no you know I mean honestly like when they had her sing that song to Ralph at the reunion that was top 10 moments of Atlanta all time and there were a lot of moments but that it was such a contrived moment but it was so worth it and the fact that they always bring that out they always cut to her singing and then they always end the clip with that close up on Ralph's face where he's like ugh every single time he's like what am i doing and then didn't somebody didn't candy say you're gonna sing it in front of him or something like that oh my god it was the best so they're basically asking like true like what the hell like why like of all the producers she's like look this is the business that i operate in so there's no mistaking like this wasn't just a homie hookup we actually conducted real business the real business that happens when a singer gets in front of a mic and the man who sells hot dogs tells her what song to sing this not only is he invited to the cookout he's actually providing the cookout okay is the one i'm like all this for dennis

4:06Ben Mandelker: so um yeah she's really like this this the dennis storyline is like a wild one for me just because it's just like atlanta has a lot of music producers like like there's there's big major ones that are out there and and then this is the worst that she could find yeah like huh yeah but i don't think i don't think that they were really having sex or having any sort of relationship it definitely did seem very platonic to me you know yeah but then my thing is like drew you signed up for the storyline regardless because you knew like you knew that working with dennis especially after finding out that Portia was coming back whenever they found out, you know, I don't know what the timelines are.

4:48I don't know if she started working with him before Portia said that she was coming back or before that news broke or after. But you knew that this was going to be a storyline, right? Like you knew that even if Portia didn't feel a way, then another cast member would kind of make it a thing and like kind of force Portia to feel a way. So it's like, what did you expect? yes idea of just like them so openly talking about each other's quote-unquote storylines i'm like we have lost the goddamn plot i can't like come on the minute i feel storyline is mentioned by a housewife they gotta get like they gotta go well although at the same time i thought it was i thought

5:30Ben Mandelker: it was actually kind of refreshing that they didn't like mask their frustration with some fake thing because that's happened that would happen for years where like people are actually mad at each other because of something that's happening with production. But they have to say like, you didn't eat all my, I brought shrimp cocktail to your house and you didn't eat it. And they have to like pretend like this is the feud, but they're not really angry about that. So I do kind of like at least being more honest with the audience. But yeah, you know, if you, if you don't have more stuff going on than like how you're actually filming the show that we're watching, it's not always a great sign.

6:03Ben Mandelker: But to be fair, Portia does give Drew credit. she says that like her album is like really really good and then Portia it's like a but it's really just a set up to air a grudge because she's like you know I would never come down on your brand or who you are in your town the way you did at the breakfast club so you can congratulate your fellow iHeart co-workers over there for stirring the pot to some degree or providing a forum for that for this issue because apparently Drew went on to the breakfast club and talked shit about Portia's brand she talked about go naked here I just like were you guys she was there you were literally like oh my god I just found out all the gossip I was gonna ask were you there when Drew Sedora came into the because Breakfast Club is just down the hall from you guys right yeah and a lot of them don't watch Housewives so they text me I know they text me like a week before and they were like hey we have drew sidora coming up like is there anything that a bravo watcher really wants to know i said yeah why the fuck does she lie so much like i'm like writing down ask her these questions because this is sick so when she did come in um they were like texting me things and then i walked over there and i could like see portion of it but like

7:27drew did exactly what portion like she fell into the trap you know and so she gave portion something to talk about but like true it just continues to lie yeah what are you gonna do

7:42Ben Mandelker: yeah but you know at the same time drew is like working for her she's working for her money she's like well i know this is gonna be messy i'm gonna say this on the breakfast club right now one of like the biggest platforms that are out there knowing that it's gonna start a feud and then i'll be in a relevant storyline with one of the stars of the show and i will somehow make it onto yet another season because at first when when drew came back for like a second season i was shocked I was like, really? They're bringing back juice to Dora, especially after that ridiculous storyline she had about like, there's a profit profit lock.

8:12Ben Mandelker: I know a profit. And there's a storyline, Andrew, there was a whole storyline where there was this profit who was off camera. Like at the very end of the season, they tacked on the storyline about like, there's a profit who I think was having an affair with this woman, Latoya. And I was like, this random ass storyline that then took over the reunion. And I was like, this girl has to go. and then they brought her back it's like really but then i start to realize she's just she's so delusional that like she just works as a housewife you know she can push the narrative forward and that's what you need on these shows when they stay in the back and talk about the shrimp cocktail it's not fun she'll keep pushing it forward and that's that's a good actor and character so portia and drew are like squabbling this entire reunion And so, okay, well, we've got a question from a Diet Coke can in Ohio who says, Portia, now that you've been seeing the season, do you think you owe Drew an apology for the way you treated her?

9:09Ben Mandelker: Because from what we saw in the show, the relationship between her and Dennis was all business. So you, I'm thinking Portia would be like, absolutely not. Because she knew my boundaries. Instead, Portia like wipes off her pants and stands up and is like, she's like, come on, come on. I thought she was going to walk off the stage. I thought she was angry. Me too. it's a classic real housewives twist out of reunion when out of nowhere, someone stands up and is like, let's hug. And she pulls the let's hug card right here on drew. I did not see this. I was like, wait, you guys were just fighting five seconds ago and now you're hugging.

9:43Ben Mandelker: You know what? What, what did you take from this moment from Porsche diamond? She's bored. Literally. She's bored of it. And I, I get it. But like when she sat back down and, She's like, she said she wasn't in a good space and blah, blah, blah. And she apologized. And I'm like, I get it, right? Like, she said it didn't make her feel good to watch the season back and see, like, how far the little petty argument that started, like, that it all started from went. I think she's bored. I don't think that Portia really ever cared. But it was more of, like, either for the show or, I guess, principle-wise.

10:27like because i'm not gonna lie i'm very toward territorial if you brought my child's father i don't have any children but if you brought my child's father on my show like you know like it's my show too right he's a part of my storyline you don't get to like sneakily film with him and make it seem like you guys aren't as close as you're as you are you're close enough to film with each other right so like i wouldn't have yeah it would have been war forever but i'm happy that she got over it and she was like yeah just like just based off of the principle don't do that because now now i'm going to film with ralph how about that yeah and i like that andy was like so

11:08Ben Mandelker: that was to be petty she's like oh yeah absolutely yeah i was just being petty even though she denied all season oh no i was totally being petty yeah 100 percent um but uh I have to say my theory, the reason why she made up with, with drew so much, I think she was bored. I think she was like, I don't want to do this anymore, but she's also like, I'm going up against Shamia this reunion. Like I'm fighting with Shamia. I can't battle on two fronts. I need to say, I need to like, let's like nip this in the bud. Let me make, make her my new ally because I've got to, I've got to save my real energy for Shamia.

11:42Ben Mandelker: This stuff I don't care about. So I think she was like building an ally. She was recruiting to her team and she was like, I don't want to be in a fight with Drew. Being in a fight with Drew is like it's very low rent. I want to fight with Shamia. Shamia's like a fellow rich person. Drew is like Drew is not a rich person. I don't want to fight I don't want to fight with Drew. She's just not like you want to go where the glamour is, right? Yeah. It's not exciting to fight with Drew. Yeah, Drew is boring. She's boring. Besides the lies. You know that she's going to lie. It's getting to the point where it's like been there done that got the t-shirt what else can you give me but with portia and shamia this is going to be a good rich lady fight we like that we want rich lady fights it's like fighting with like you know like a perfectly fine ranch home that's like that's like fighting with drew so um you want to fight with a mansion you want to have a mansion fight not like uh you know respectable three bedroom you know.

12:45That's why Monica was a one and done.

12:47Ben Mandelker: Suburban. What are you finding very suburban? We don't, yeah, we want mansion versus mansion, not mansion versus suburban home. Okay. So, Andy's like, okay, cool. Didn't see that happening. Okay. Well, Kelly, when you joined this friend group with Brit, you came into the season inseparable to the point where you were like finishing each other's sentences, or maybe I just wasn't paying attention, didn't know who was talking in the first plays and now we're gonna now we get into like what happened with kelly and brit because they had a big falling out which ron and i both clocked because we're like they're spending way too much time in nashville talking about this stylist and why this kelly mentioned so many times why the stylist was great and she lent the stylist we're like this is not going to end well especially because stylists are messy stylists and makeup people they're the messiest people on these shows each and every time.

13:36Ben Mandelker: Joey Malouf Joey Malouf and Sutton Strack we know, we remember They're just waiting to be mentioned in the cameras. They're texting everybody, oh my god all the gossip. You just know the minute they're filming something, all of that is going to all their friends and that feeds into the blogs. And speaking of Heather Gay let's not forget who allegedly was like part of unmasking Reality Vontice was Heather's own like hair person, right? Yep, yep. If we're to believe that editors so kelly basically says like yeah this like stylist thing like i you know i gave her i like let her use my stylist and i have a whole team not really clear why kelly has a whole team but she has a whole team yeah i don't get it to have a whole team and still look a mess every time that camera is on you i don't understand it that money needs to be saved and put away for her uh you know legal fees because this is crazy or a waffle iron yeah true so save like 25 dollars

14:38Ben Mandelker: i have to say um cuisinart actually sent me like a little waffle iron a few weeks ago which was like one like one of my proudest moments was somehow managing to land on cuisinart's radar on getting a little waffle iron and um it's like the most fun there is hope kelly just talk about enough have cuisinart send you a waffle iron at this point but it is like the cutest little thing it makes these little waffle things little waffle fingers um and i'm like i have to tell you it's the most fun thing like i actually don't know why she's not busting out her waffle iron more because it's just so fun to put you put some batter in that thing you close it up you open up three minutes later and we've got a whole delicious waffle waiting for you like why wouldn't you be just like putting that front and center in your life why are you not centering your waffle iron right now she's kind of she's kind of pulling a um a sonya morgan where it's like yeah it's all it's coming it's coming it's not here yet it's coming like what is happening yes so um anyway so we hear about this like style situation and um you know kelly kelly is of the mindset of like you just want to steal my life, which I feel like is, that's a bit much.

15:48I think Kelly, I think she's totally, totally, um,

15:53Ben Mandelker: validated in saying like, um, I lent you like my team, like you'd use them and then you just took them without telling me theoretically there's nothing wrong with that, but it feels weird just to do that. Right. I mean, where do you guys stand on this whole stylist's beef that they have going on? I kind of think that it's, kelly okay if your team had such an allegiance to you then this wouldn't even be a real argument there it is and from people from what i've seen online they were saying that kelly wasn't yeah they weren't really she wasn't really paying them um so i i really wish that brit was there to clock that you know what i mean um but i just don't like i'm like kelly not one person on that team has been like no i'm standing firm kelly pays me well she takes care of me i'm gonna stay with her even the shaw squad stayed around for a while even after everything happened like there was some shaw squatters that were like we're going down the ship but like kelly like she yeah they did all turn on her.

17:00Ben Mandelker: I think that, I mean, first of all, get your own people. I do think like, like get your own people. Like that's, that's your friend team. Like, or have a conversation. Like, can we like, can we go have these with them? They both work for both of us or something, but don't like, but also Kelly pay your people too. Like, I think she, I think Kelly is really elevate is trying to like elevate herself by being like, she's trying to steal my life. I'm like, no one is stealing your life. Nobody wants your life right now. like girl if you can't get a waffle iron then we don't want that life i want a life with waffles i may want her dog's life but i don't want hers because that dog is being pampered that dog is being pampered but not styled very well like that but if kelly's team hopped over to brit do you think brit would have paid well they said that brit was paying i don't know how long she would be able to sustain that with her uh shady uh yeah i don't know the question are they're getting paid but would they be fed at a at a brit ed event that's the other question oh well absolutely not we saw that yeah rent out the country club with nothing in it basically like i don't understand let me pay for one table's worth of food yeah it's ridiculous when you get to that level let me tell you something about country clubs they nickel and dime everything down to like whatever you're using the table rental fees the chairs it is horrendous to throw parties at country clubs yeah but when you're but when you're but when you're wealth when you're when you're wealthy enough that you're like like pretending to like true like browse for private planes you don't care about the nickel and dime that a country yeah uh she should have had it in the church basement like everybody else i'm sick of it as she donates like half a roll of generic like toilet paper to people in veneta it's time for a commercial it's time for a crappin's commercial

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21:23Ben Mandelker: Do you think if a Butterball Turkey showed up at the Real Housewives of Rhode Island reunion, it could bring everyone back together? Maybe it would, girly. Maybe it would. I love a turkey. Butterball simplifies cooking so you can focus on who you're cooking for. Butterball has turkey made for the way you care. Whether you're cooking for your best friend or mending bridges with your frenemy. Butterball. Care hard. Cook easy. So then they start saying how that at the beginning of the season, the newbies all got together and decided to have an alliance together to take down Portia. and then of course the newbies like no there was no alliance and then shamia even says no there was alliance but porsche was in the alliance and then porsche says i was never part of alliance because alliances destroy shows including this one in the past uh i personally think that what happened was the newbies said hey we gotta stick together because they're gonna try to like try to be like uh porsche's probably gonna try to be like i own this like i'm not you know i'm like that you guys are freshmen i'm the senior and we have to be like no we deserve a spot too i kind of like that was probably the vibe but now it's been sort of distorted into like a an alliance like a survivor where do you guys think this all where do you guys think the truth is this whole situation i think that there was for sure an alliance but i'm not 100 sold that porsche knew about it like i feel like if shamia would have said yeah there was an alliance but i didn't feel comfortable joining an alliance without Portia because that's been one of my best friends since I was a child that fine right like I get it or if Shamia said well in my head Portia was a part of my alliance because that's been my best friend since I was a child whatever but I do believe that Portia may have like said no like no I'm not gonna join an alliance it's my first season back this kill shows and I'm not gonna be a part of it I don't I could see that now I don't know I I don't understand.

23:25Ben Mandelker: Like, yeah, the alliance with Portia doesn't even make sense to me because I just like, why? Like, who are you allying? Maybe against Kenya because Kenya was. Well, she was sort of like a friend of any. I don't know. I think something feels murky in here in this whole discussion of alliances. I think you always assume that like when will there ever be a full cast of newbies? Not full cast of newbies, but when have all the newbies transferred over to the next season? so i feel like they need to figure out like they're gonna come for one of the new people right so if they align early and try and go against the bigger team it's like we're trying get some leeway in before they start digging into you like i don't know it's just self-protection at that point because by the way the answer to your question make it by the answer to your question is uh miami and new jersey had newbies had like a set of new newbies that like were able to last actually a few seasons.

24:22Ben Mandelker: Yeah, in Miami, when Miami came back, you know, you had Dr. Nicole, you had Julia, you had Gertie, you had some others that lasted. So, you know, it can happen. We're currently still Julia. Yeah, God, it's incredibly. Okay, so then Andy is basically like asking Kelly about her relationship with Brit, you know, like where you were kind of like, you would you would, you know, like you would stick up for her and everything. You helped like, you know, you you backed her up like after Kenya did everything and then you know like you guys have fallen apart and everything and you know asking her about that and he asked her about like when Brit said the abortion stuff which was such a gross moment for Brit to do at that party you know like that was so low it was really gross but basically Kelly says that like her stylist is the one like she didn't even have a conversation with Brit about abortions and that it was her stylist who told Brit, which is even grosser too, because this is something you've only heard through gossip and then you weaponize it on camera, which shouldn't even be anything to be weaponized in the first place, by the way.

25:27Ben Mandelker: So she talks about that and how she also had her tubes tied so she couldn't even have babies if she wanted to, etc. And then Andy's asking if the women think it's strange that Kelly travels with a bodyguard everywhere, which I guess, I mean, I don't know the degree to how dangerous her her ex is but that actually becomes a discussion here which is like Portia says actually I've heard that he's not even coming after her in the first place yeah how much is she paying the bodyguard and is the bodyguard getting paid because if the glam squad's not getting paid then what's that she has a lot of expenses and I don't understand why Kelly has all these expenses and isn't paying like her teams because she's falling into the housewife trap big time like she's gonna be in trouble oh yeah she just started so she fell in by joining the show yeah that's crazy she fell in by hearing that she may get on the show um elevating her lifestyle to a point to a point that was unsustainable like we can see that this is unsustainable um my anxiety would be through the roof if this was going on i'd be like oh my god my house is gonna fall apart yeah but a true housewife doesn't care they just they're living in they're like take it till you make it you know so Portia's like well I heard that the husband isn't even coming after her like she's just probably saying that for the show and they're like well how did you hear that well Brit said it and like well how did Brit hear that and Drew says that the husband reached out to Ralph and then we see this clip of Ralph doing some sort of vlog and he's wearing this t-shirt that says call me daddy like in the kitchen or something because I think he's probably not allowed to say call me daddy since like it's too close to call her daddy or whatever so he's there he's like hey it's ralph uh so everyone i just had the opportunity the unique opportunity to run into kelly's husband and he told me how he ended up going and getting put in jail by kelly like who is tuning into ralph to hear gossip about kelly's husband who are these people that are like guys um i would love to go out tonight but ralph ralph has an exclusive so I have to be home.

27:39Ben Mandelker: I have to watch his live stream from the basement. He just spoke to Kelly's ex. So... These are the same people that are going to Drew's shows at City Winery, you know? We've never we never see a picture of the crowd. Do you realize that? We only see her on the stage. It's an intimate event. Yeah, very intimate. It's an intimate exclusive event. You know? Yes, when you cancel the tables. I can't with her. I really love that we've tapped in towards your distinct hate for juicer. I had no idea that you really did with this much, but you know what? I support it. I totally support it. I can't with her.

28:18Ben Mandelker: So then, you know, Kelly starts saying how like, well, like I can't just get a restraining order in Georgia. It's takes too much with this and that. And so Andy basically is like, okay, well, so what's going on with your waffle shop? Because you kind of started the season saying that you're like, have a waffle empire and we haven't seen anything because she started that way she's like i have a cookbook i have 45 restaurants i've invented waffles and i'm going on oprah next week and you're like really and then nothing we've seen nothing ever since nothing yeah she's a scammer she's a scammer like drew that being said i believe that she can throw down in the kitchen like i like if she said i want to cook you breakfast i would 100 be there i think that she can do well although she clearly lost to charles oakley in the waffle cook-off at williams She was insane to me.

29:05Like, you're going to lose to a basketball player?

29:08Ben Mandelker: I'm sorry. Like, you know, what is happening here? A man who cares about nothing, you're going to lose to him. And this is supposed to be your brand. Yeah. But he clearly can cook because he's been cooking all season. Every time we see him, he's in the kitchen cooking food for who knows who. But, like, he does a lot. His big issue is that he got into a fight with Angela's in-laws about cleaning up the kitchen. So, like, he's very concerned with cooking. Like that's a big deal for him. So, uh, okay. All right. Well, Shamia, your bond with Kelly was getting tighter while her friendship with Brit was crumbling.

29:44Ben Mandelker: Did you serve the pot and all that? And basically, yeah, Shamia is like, yeah, I'm not friends with Brit anymore either. Like I caught some strays. Don't like her. Not, not enter or whatever. So then now it's time as we sort of come into the end of the reunion, we pivot to get to our cliffhanger, which is we're gonna have our big Angela, Angela Oakley segment. So we see everything with Angela. And it's funny because to me in the premiere episode, there was a huge amount of focus on the newbies. Like I should say Kelly and Brit and Shamia. And Angela was almost an afterthought. She like came to this like first party or her wig.

30:23Ben Mandelker: Like it was hot. She had to fix her wig and everything. But she was like, there was like, it felt like she was not gonna be central. and then now she is like fan favorite she's the one that feels like she's been there for 10 years it feels like she'll be there for 10 more years she feels like she's like immediately part of bravo canon um and so i don't know what i was i don't know where i was going with this i just wanted to praise angela guys can we stop the podcast so i could talk about angela um i loved angela i really love angela i'm excited i i think that she's hysterical she was the one i was watching the whole time and waiting for like the funny remarks from I think she'd be great on the traitors I think she'd be hysterical on the traitors honey let's not jump ahead of ourselves let's get her in another season and see what happens next Drew would be a traitor who was she would be like one of the first traitors out I would love to see traitors where Drew is a traitor just to watch her fumbling through her lies because she probably would like walk into the breakfast table and be like well good to see that you're all here i mean i knew you would be and i'm like wait how would you know i mean nothing i'm an actress i just say these things i have a new album coming out and i'm like she's a traitor yeah she just so angela speaking of investigating angela is here to talk about this guy Marcus this thirsty thirsty man that they found and they're like so why are you so certain that it was Phaedra sent this guy Marcus to infiltrate the group and she's like well he told me it was Phaedra she's like but you never met this guy she's like no never met but But he is from Athens, Georgia.

32:13Ben Mandelker: And his aunt is a lady by the name of Kimberly Bleep. Kimberly Bleep drives a Kia. She gets it serviced on Third Street right next to a post office. And I have it under good authority that Phaedra's cousin's friend often mails packages from there. So I think it's pretty much an open and closed case, right? That's wild. That fell so flat. For me, at least. I'm like Angela we love you Angela but this is not a convincing argument and then she pulls out a binder because we knew that she didn't have the receipts on her phone you know Angela's going to be like she's going to be analog so she pulls out like this she pulls out one of those floppy binders which is color coordinated I like that she stuck with the theme of the reunion she got a nice yellowish gold one and she's like here are my receipts which is the receipt again is that Marcus's aunt she says went to high school with Phaedra and everything and that therefore is the flaming is the the smoking gun a flaming gun if you will an on-fire gun that like Phaedra definitely sent Marcus who do you think sent Marcus and I think the only there's only one correct answer which is production right yeah for sure and I think that it's so weird yeah that we're stuck on this right like we want we want phaedra to be the bad guy so badly that it's like it's it it almost does stick like at first i was like oh phaedra like you did this shit again like you're but you've been back for 10 days and here you go yeah but when you really sit with it and then the fact that like he came out and he's been on he's been trying to do interviews with people and like talking to blogs i'm like he reached out to us yeah is he someone's hairstylist and or makeup artist and or bodyguard is he any of the three criteria of the gossip strangers maybe kimberly blanks you know wait he reached out to you guys i probably shouldn't have even said anything because we'd like to be well we'd like to no i mean i'll say it i don't care like we you know we'd like to like what happens off the podcast we don't want to be like if someone emails us we just air it out on here but like his people i just feel like he's like whatever so thirsty his people like two or three days before the finale were like, this is your chance to get an exclusive with Marcus to talk about what happened.

34:44Ben Mandelker: We're only reaching out to you guys. We don't care about Marcus. We don't care. Pack it up. It's wild. Yeah. So I was like, you are no Cuisinart. Unless there's a waffle iron in the mix, we are not discussing this. Let's talk home appliances and then we'll see if you're on the podcast okay right that was unethical i have a very unethical policy about being out of this and yes diamond and andrew did pay me with cuisinart materials here's your food processor enjoy it that juicer is just make sure you clean it is machine washable but um uh yeah i think phaedra just doesn't have a motive to take down angela she doesn't know angela enough like just give phaedra time and she'll do it on her own but you don't have to push it i think production pushed this and they told him to say phaedra to to start uh to get phaedra into the mix because she's not in any sort of drama and i think that's really all that this was and phaedra's like what what are you talking about like this is crazy she's like i have a i have like four siblings anyone could have gone to high school with them this means nothing but don't you think that she also could have heard from production too that like the season's off to a slow start we got 10 days to make this thing like yeah send marcus this random man like you gotta have some type of through line to the group because otherwise it's not working yeah that's either way there's something there's some fakery afoot going on here and um whatever angela's gonna make her attempt to call it phaedra it's gonna flop but she's one of those people were like, eh, she tried.

36:25Ben Mandelker: Whatever, moving on. Whereas if it was Drew Sedora, I would be like, she is so thirsty. She's trying to have a movie. She can't do it. She does not know what she's doing. She should be in the basement too. But with Angela, like, well, you know what? I love that she tried it. I love that she had the spirit to try it. Good for her. And that binder was great. It was yellow, right? The selection was wonderful. That was not a CBS binder. That was Staples. Okay? There was real money put into that prop. I just think that, like, of all people, you decide to pick Phaedra who should have learned her lesson from the reason why she got kicked off or put on pause i don't know what you would call it fired in the past so it's like i think phaedra would have been almost too smart to like take the bait so soon like i'm only going to be here for 10 days i'm not going to allow you to do this to me maybe next season like so early no next season but now she has a definite link to get asked back and angela does as well again i think there's some uh trickery at foot but i think it like all adds up to where she gets invited back which is all she probably wants angela has his plot line so she's getting asked back for sure marcus maybe thinks that he's going to be a friend of so he wants to marcus is a one and done marcus is like uh that guy who talked to quad on the red carpet of that one season of Married to Medicine who's like, I know for sure that Lisa's husband is gay.

37:50Ben Mandelker: He came on to be messy and then never seen again. Sometimes our lot in life as gays is to just appear on a Real Housewives season for like three episodes. You make a mess and then you're gone. It's like the psychic on Orange County that's like, I have a psychic prediction that Brooks is lying about his cancer. There, blows up the season, and then is gone. Like, that's sort of what we do, you know? And that's Marcus's part of that tradition. On OC? Oh, that's hysterical. You have so much to learn. So much to learn. I can't wait. Oh, wow. It reminds me of the guy, Anthony, Drew's old quote-unquote assistant.

38:32Ben Mandelker: Oh, yeah. Remember when he started the shit, and I was like, okay. what about the party planner who sued Candy and then went to Phaedra to get represented legally Bobby or something I mean it's just like it's just what we do we come in it's like we want like a moment and we don't realize how disposable we are we just get we have a moment and then they just discard us and like Marcus I think maybe Marcus thought he was going to stick but I don't know if he's going to stick either way either way we have um we're at a the cliffhanger is like this whole situation like what where's it gonna what's it gonna happen where's the lie what you know it's it's a little embarrassing for angela but it's a fun note to end on yeah she'll be back and hopefully you guys will be back she did print some receipts like my question is who is the one that sits down like do you think she like sits down with her kids and she's like okay so i have an idea i need a binder but like who puts the receipts together for them?

39:37I want a background into putting the receipt binder together just with their line of thinking. It's just her.

39:45Ben Mandelker: Everyone in that family acts like they don't know Angela, which is hilarious. Her daughter, her mother, her sister, her husband. Every time she comes around, they're like... She's like, alright, I guess I'll have to make this binder receipts myself. She's a pretty bad on her apple 2gs she's she's got the zigzag issues it's like pinking shears you can't cut yourself you can't cut yourself without god bless well thank you so much for you to remind everyone where they can find you on social media both you two and how they can listen to your show um you can find me on socials at andrew pug i'm only on instagram oh and um i'm at diamond sincere on Instagram and I'm doing threads now.

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This is part 2 of a two-part recap

The Real Housewives of Atlanta reunion soldiers on, despite Brit Eady being a no-show. Porsha and Drew hash out their differences, Kelli explains her stylist drama, and Angela attempts to take down Porsha. Diamond Cooper and Andrew Pugliese from Elvis Duran and The Morning Show join Ben to break it all down!

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