#2924 Below Deck S12E07: Pros & Concerts with Ash and Alaina from Morbid

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1:24Ben Mandelker: Watch What Crappens I'm Ben Mandelker. Today we are talking below deck. Ronnie is still out having the time of his life and in his place. This is the first time this has ever happened. I have two people that are in Ronnie's place. One of them is alive and one of them, if I can tell, looks to be dead. I think we actually have a dead body because we have the two hosts of literally the biggest podcast, I think in the world, if not the biggest, like maybe number five, I don't know. But like, it's insane. The hosts of Morbid, it's Ash Kelly and Elena Urquhart. Hi, welcome to the show. Hello. It's nice to be here.

2:16Ben Mandelker: Hi, it's great to see you. Yeah, it's Elena Urquhart. So here's why I said this thing about the dead body thing, because if you're watching with crappens on demand which you can watch with patreon.com slash watch for crappens um ash you you look like you've been you look like you are dead and exhumed tell us about why uh you have this leak going on today you have a bloody you have bloody gash on your neck on your mouth and on your forehead yeah i have gone through a lot today it's been a long day it's been a long day we had to record one of our listener tales which you can also find on youtube yeah Yeah.

2:56I don't really know what you type in. Maybe Morbid and YouTube. I don't know. We're not good at that. Yeah. But we always have a costume and I had to take a quick phone call afterwards. We did a dead bride theme today or a bride theme. You were a living bride. Yeah, I was a living bride. That's why she doesn't look so good. But I went full dead bride and then I had to take a quick phone call and then I was like, oh, shit, we got to hop on with Ben. So here I am dead.

3:23Ben Mandelker: this is i mean this is i i cannot tell you the the amount of delight that i'm getting from just looking at you as a dead bride right now on with crap is on demand and we're here to talk about of all things all things oh it feels right i don't know if it does feel right well by the way i just want to say that if you are not listening to morbid um you should start listening to morbid because it's a great podcast ronnie and i have been privileged to be guests on it once or twice and we love you too every time we go to boston we always make sure that we have a little kiki at some point because we just have the best time so everyone go and support ash and elena because you guys are truly the best whether you're dead or alive so thank you we love you guys we love you guys we love you guys in that video he's so funny we love you guys um um so uh first and foremost uh we are talking below deck today um have you guys been you guys you guys are below deck watchers generally but ash you were saying before we started that you had started the season but you'd fallen off a little bit tell me what happened how do you what what caused the fall off yeah my husband and i watch almost every season of below deck but i was saying to elena this morning with the amount of below deck franchises that there are now like below deck down under below deck sailing yacht below deck mediterranean sometimes you just get a little below decked out but yeah fatigue um but i started watching this season i watched like maybe the first two or three episodes and it was just so chaotic i was like you know what i'm taking a below deck break it has been chaotic i have to say when the season began i was like oh damn this is a good season because there was so many crazy characters on it and it was chaotic in a way that i really liked but some of that chaos has actually worn down on me like or worn me down because i'm like i'm getting a little sick of this new thing that whenever anyone like shares a bit of their life they like stop the whole show and they bring up this wall of photos and then they talk for like 15 seconds and it's like not even the talking for 15 seconds that bothers me because that's what they would always do but i don't know why we have to like halt the whole show to be like wait so lane is talking now i'm like can we just like can we just keep it movement we have to have like these these halts but also the show has been preoccupied with the ongoing romances of first Elaine and um Kyle and now it's Elaine and Jess and Elaine and Jess and Kyle and I have to say I really don't care I really don't care about romances on below deck and it's like very hard for me right now because I'm trying to be a positive person I love me some below deck but there's just too much of this this love triangle happening for me right now i don't know i don't know how it felt for you coming back into it but you know i feel like i've been dealing with this for like 10 weeks at this point even though it's only been like two or three it's too much too much for me i want to see them working it's a lot there's too much happening because i i was like in on the season i'm i don't know what season it is but it was with rocky the one with yeah that was season three when she came in yeah i loved that one because that was like singularly focused like what was going on with rocky there was one drama really yeah there was one drama that you kind of just be like okay that's fun this is just like so many people involved that i'm like i don't even know what's going on right now like at one point i was like it's the same person who is that yeah there's also a lot of people and everybody's messing with each other so it's like no yeah i almost need this show to take like a beat like maybe like we can like if there's a lot of stuff happening on board like i would actually almost prefer a charter to last like three episodes and we can like kind of like breathe a little bit but it's it's like one thing after another it's like super fast and and it is chaotic and like and this time that it does slow down is for this love triangle that i'm like i've had enough of love triangle i tune into below deck to watch people work and then also up at their job and watch other people have to pick up the slack and then complain about it which we definitely got in this episode too but i'm like if there's like a boat man's between a deckie and and like a third stew it's like really like it's not i don't want it to be centered it can be a little side thing that happens when charters over you know yeah it's it's hard life is hard for us i think it's really difficult to get through and you know what i don't like the instagram wall either no i don't either i was surprised when that happened i was like i'm like why are we on instagram i know like i don't mind the new big flashy fonts that's okay and then they occasionally have like they'll like for some reason to make it seem sexier like when chef anthony is like adding like an ice cube to a glass i'll like watch watch the ice cube tumble in like in slow mo it's like okay sure slow motion ice cube it's a sexy yacht where things go in slow motion that's fine but the instagram wall for some reason like that is the tweak this season that has broken my back like that is the straw that broke my i am the camel and my camel back is broken because i can't i can't i completely agree because then it takes away from the sexy ice cube yeah i want my sex actually really does i was like this isn't sexy it's like you may be thinking you're looking at a sexy ice cube but now we're going to look at someone's random instagram wall and not even long enough that we can leer at all the photos it's just no what it really just sort of like stops the scene like the scene just halts and like oh okay we're gonna have to hear about someone's life and then um and then i don't know i i think that we could it could just it should march forward like every other blow deck has always done so yeah agreed that be yes wow really really started for this this episode from a from a place of no but i do love below deck i want to remind everyone i do love the show so why don't we dive into oh my goodness you know what's so funny i uh downloaded the real housewives of orange county notes so imagine okay so the episode opens up with shannon door playing with her i'm still wait a second shannon badore is not

9:37i'm so in for shannon badore x below deck

9:43Ben Mandelker: i'm surprised she hasn't been i feel like if shannon were on below deck she would be hilarious she'd be like well um first before we leave this uh is this is this pillow hypo hypoallergenic because if we're in the high seas and i have a sneezing attack it's going to be difficult for everyone incredible picture archie on the high seas archie would be having the time of his life in fact i bet archie loves the instagram wall i bet every time he sees the instagram wall his tail wags archie that is not a tennis ball

10:18Ben Mandelker: archie is very archie has a friend now too right archie has a brother didn't shannon um adopt another dog i forget the name but yeah she did well i'm happy for archie i mean archie deserves a friend after archie was blamed for her dui let's not forget well i was just out walking the dog he was very stimulated after watching below deck and so i was walking him at uh two in the morning and that's why and that's why i have a bloody face yeah there's no reason that that car is wrecked over there poor archie i know justice for archie truly justice for archie okay let's get into the episode i have the proper notes up now it is no longer the real housewives of orange county notes so um uh previously so selaine and kyle we see previously they've hooked up um but then slain made out with just the club and then uh we also see we have a new bosun by the way so kyo is gone thank god he was terrible i don't i don't think you guys saw kai i guess ash you saw a little bit of kyo but i saw a little bit he seemed like he didn't really know how to manage a crew he was it was i felt like he his skill set like he would have been a good manager at like a starbucks yeah i don't think like a super yacht was like really where he's shown you know yeah which you know kind of required for this fine line you know it's a it's a fine line between starbucks and super yeah but it's a line that must be respected um but we do have hugo so hugo came on last week and so hugo is actually like a perfectly capable he's like a good uh bosun he's also very handsome i'd like to add so congrats to hugo he's got like he's got like the dark hair oh yep yep dark hair big smile open relationship um yeah messy so the big thing from uh from last week is that the guests we have a set of totally obnoxious terrible guests they all run strip clubs which doesn't make you obnoxious that's just you know i'm just telling you a little bit about their history giving some texture yeah they were they were terrible um so they're on board and um one their requests is that they want to have a like a concert on the dock you know just a casual request and why are you even on the yacht if you want to have a big concert yeah at that point get a hotel room yeah how about this go to a concert i want you to go to a concert don't make requests on land when you're on yacht no thank you i think a picnic is allowed you can make a picnic request but like actually doing a setup a concert setup at this point like just just throw yourself down a you know a set of staircases not even a set of stairs a set of staircases this is multiple flights

13:11Ben Mandelker: so um uh so now fraser has you know last episode he checked in he he he it was hard for him to find an event planner he finally found one the guy's like I'll have it all ready on Sunday and where we left off on the last episode is that Fraser went to the doc to do a walkthrough with Captain Carrie nothing was set up and yeah and it's like is this concert gonna happen are yeah I know Fraser looks very harried by it and I was you know did you think the concert was gonna happen or did you think like okay Bravo's just fucking with him they're keeping everything around the corner and then like they're gonna make a come last minute to make seem dramatic the latter latter yeah yeah i was worried for you you're worried yeah i was worried these things always have a way of working themselves out especially when the episode ends that way and then you're carrying up next week carrying on you're like oh it'll be fine they're just leading you in yeah yeah and the thing is the reason why it would work out because if it if it wasn't going to work out for the concert if it was like seven o 'clock and there was nothing set up that would have been the cliffhanger i think that's not the walkthrough yeah so good call yeah thank you thank you you know i'm an official below deckologist at this point so like i've been doing this for a while i'm a professional i know when uh the cliffhangers are gonna happen so the event planner is like yeah everything's good everything and you know and carrie's like well you've got a lot of really demanding guests so we've got a lot of pressure on us right now and if there's no activity we're going to feel late and the planners is that carrying direct audio ripped that was him please welcome our third guest he's alive i also love him i love captain he's awesome i love him he is great um he is uh he seems like really capable i like that he he seems like very warm towards his staff but also rules with an iron fist like he will like you don't want to mess with him at all no but if you stay on his good side he's going to treat you with like respect he's probably one of those people who puts both hands on his chest and then fans them out and goes all i gave what i get give me respect yeah i'm gonna give you back probably does that was so real i was so niche but so real

15:29Ben Mandelker: my specialty is uh captain carrie demanding respect impersonations i feel like of all the captains he's got the closest energy to captain lee absolutely i like captain i think he's a really he's like a really excellent um uh whatever the word would be to say the next one there's like a nice word for that right it's not predecessor because that's the prior one no predecessor is the before capital what's the next one after success successor there you go guys we're killing it look at us we know things vocabulary when you use success with me you'll use it back with you the hands for me he does that a lot it's almost like he's trying to show like his ideal breast size so he's like let me cup around it and photo show me respect and i'll make a boobie um so they're the guys basically the event planner's like yeah that's fine like we'll get this all sad it's gonna be great and you know carrie's like all right we just want to make sure we just dot our eyes and cross our t's we've got a demanding guest here and you know as they say when you're making a concert i give what i pulled out right so what i'm getting back is what I was like, yes, Carrie.

16:57Ben Mandelker: So Fraser is saying that they're going to be bringing Carnival, but bringing Carnival to the dock for these guests. And a dock party is nothing without people. So I've asked the marina to invite their friends and family to join, but there's so much to do when you still need staging and DJs and bands and stilt walkers and Kleenex tissues and Reese's Pieces peanut butter cups and things like that. It's the most stressful day of my life. You look like you've gone through it. Every single day is the most stressful day of fraser's life i believe i know yeah i know i'm sort of wondering like this is a demanding job but is he maybe not like uh is he not like managing his time properly he's stressed all the time i can't say that i wouldn't be stressed doing this like i could not do this i would be fraser and fully would not be able to do that yeah because i also would have never been able to be kind to these guests at all yeah i got a skill out of the able to hold that i just like well that's it for me bye everybody yeah but he was haunted like haunted is a great he's seen things he saw an apparition out on the seas and and it's like i think that's why he's not good with his time management is because he's distracted by the fact that he saw like a dead sailor floating over the waves yeah he has seen a salty old sea captain yeah that will stay with you forever he saw he saw a sealy do you know what a sealy is i don't think i do i just this has stuck with me because in fourth grade my teacher read us this book about that took place in like the um the what are those islands north of scotland not the faroe islands it's like the shetland islands oh yeah it was about it was about sealies and it was like these it's kind of like this it was like a much less intriguing version of a mermaid it's like people who are like half seal half human and then they come onto the land and they're like mystical but dangerous and no i'm not about that that's awful it's also possible that i'm saying complete bullshit right now because i'm drawing upon knowledge i learned from when i was a fourth grader as soon as you said it i was like it like hit a nerve somewhere it sounded legit enough to scare the shit out of me and now i see it in my mind's eye so i'm scared and i don't want you i feel like friends yeah well i tried to do a search and this is what i did a search i said sealy shetland islands and ai google ai said you're asking about a mattress named after the shetland islands i said he's not haunted by a mattress series guys did you know about the silly mattresses they're horrifying they will scare the of you but by the way is the sealy mattress really named after the sealy it's a selfie okay isn't that a dress brand oh wait it can be both i really need to get to the bottom of these half seal half

20:01Ben Mandelker: have you guys heard of the mythical uh cryptid known as the serta watch out it's gonna come for you i mean casper is a friendly ghost so i mean there's a we're on something here you have options of your haunt okay so i have no idea what i'm talking about clearly because i have no idea what sort of like folklore i've like scrambled up in my brain that i've tried to insert it this podcast but like i'm pretty sure there's some sort of half seal creature that haunts the shetland islands and just don't maybe it's not a ceely maybe it's something else but all we know is that freezer has seen it and it has never been the same yes both versions of it oh it is selkie you're right it is selkie not ceely okay yeah a mythological creature from scottish and irish folklore capable of transforming between seal and human by shedding or donning their seal skin oh so they just have a pile of skin somewhere oh yeah now i know what to dress up as for our next look he stumbled upon the pile of skin that's what i think he did he's like what am i why did no one clean this up solene there's a pile of seal skin on the in the salon please clean that up right away she says i don't know what you're saying going forward when we clean up our seal skin we always fold it afterwards always so yes he's seen seal skin and he's haunted and now he has to with a vision of seal skin in his mind he has to put on a some sort of carnival on the dock that all the dock workers are going to come to and dance at dance around these people live there I mean these people know what a good carnival party is they're like I don't want to go to the dock I don't want to go to Maureen's dock to go to the carnival no who wants that no for for a bunch of americans on a boat no thank you i want to go to my own yeah yeah for dawn dawn the cackler i'll remember dawn for the rest of my days good lord anywhere for dawn how many bars in arizona has she terrorized you know that like you go you go to a bar in phoenix and donna's there be like hey shots get this person a shot they're in my bar i don't even know if she's from phoenix a walgreens like she's banned she's been from a lot of places she's been even yeah even the selkies don't want her they're like no we don't want to in seal form either um we're cursed enough don

22:48Ben Mandelker: we don't need adding don into our mix they're like you know what actually we decided we're just gonna stay as seals um she ends selkies once and for all that's how we got like don came around like hey you guys want to be humans right now i got some i got some schlitz that we can party with like um sorry we're seals now we don't you want to be humans right she goes the edge of the water hey hey seals you want to party they're like absolutely not don like never you're banned from this ledge never again they're like um we see there's some orcas over there we're gonna go see if we can hang out with them and stuff maybe don should go hang out with honestly don would be an orca right you know don would be like um like those guys in dune the fremen who can ride the sandworms she'd be doing that with orcas you like feed her to an orca and and she winds up riding it you're like god damn it don somehow she survives orca writer oh god it's time for a commercial it's time for a crappin's commercial

24:20The End

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25:10Ben Mandelker: So Fraser's got to figure this all out. And then meanwhile, Carrie is reminding Fraser to get a checklist together because that's important. And then Rainbow is checking in on Anthony and he's going to be making like a little Provençal tart, a little sort of like small pizzas. And I was like, you are trying way too hard for these people. Yeah. You just put some store-bought focaccia dough in the oven, put some shredded moths on there, and then serve it to them. Because they are not going to even appreciate this Provencal miniature tart. Do you know them a bologna and cheese sandwich and call it a day?

25:47That's really all they deserve. That's the energy.

25:50Ben Mandelker: That's all they deserve. That's it. I mean, I wouldn't be mad at a bologna and cheese sandwich. I actually love the bologna and cheese sandwich. Which as soon as I said it, I was like, I don't know. I keep running into this. Elena has been bringing up bologna cheese a lot for some reason. And other people are like, yeah, that sounds great. That sounds disgusting to me. You're like, wait a second. I'm not going to cut some cheese. Bologna cheese and mustard. Ugh! Get out of here. That sounds actually quite good. I haven't had bologna in years. Me neither. I used to love it as a kid. I miss it. What is bologna?

26:20I don't want to know.

26:21Ben Mandelker: What isn't it? Exactly. Yeah, see, that's my problem. I don't need to know anything about it. no if i don't know a little bit of everything yeah it's a little you've got i think it's got some some maybe there's some beef some pork maybe some seal you know in honor of our sealies no you guys can have those i'll have the tarts it's it's about um 85 salt that's what that's all sodium yeah um so anthony is telling us that tonight's like the vip party and he's He's like, well, I want to show my talent and I want them to feel, of course, a unique experience. But, you know, I killed myself last season.

27:02Ben Mandelker: So but from what I learned in yachting, save your time. So I think it's better to keep it simple for lunch and be focused for a unique tasting dinner. So he's finally learned how to budget his time, which is great. It only took him a season and a half. So good for you, Anthony. Well done. Very happy for him. It's the vengeance that's carrying him this season. He really does have a lot of vengeance. and i don't know i've mentioned this on the podcast before but do you know why i have a theory on why he has vengeance do you know what my theory is it's because of ronnie carham i think ronnie carham caused this plot line and here's why last season on below deck when the the edit was that anthony got in over his head he couldn't do it anymore he was also plagued with some grief over his father and he started off strong but he just couldn't keep up and then he sort of he just sort of like he bombed out and um but ronnie had this theory that i co-signed with but i'm just give it to credit good credit to ronnie because he's the first one who really picked up on this his whole theory was that fraser kept on undermining anthony and so like even though anthony was not great like fraser was the one who kept on like making his life harder and unraveling him and so that was like what ronnie was always saying and the show was not presenting it that way in terms of the show was not presenting an edit like look at what fraser was doing it's just ronnie was like reading between the lines he's like if you look closely you know fraser was on unraveling him well here's the thing at the top of this season anthony says when he comes on board he says barbie called me and was telling me about how like fraser was you know undermining me and the thing is that barbie last season was always like liking our stuff on instagram so i'm pretty sure she was listening so my theory is ronnie hatched a theory on watcher crappins barbie heard it barbie told anthony and now anthony has come on to the new season of below deck all pissed because ronnie's theory he heard ronnie's theory through barbie and he was like wait a second that's right so i want to congratulate ronnie because i think this is all because ronnie broke the fourth wall of podcasting yeah ronnie he full on like he he he basically he he got in there he's like monica he's like reality volunteers infiltrating salt lake city right holy shit oh my god yeah he's an amazing narrative he really did and i love that barbie had a hand in it of course she did

29:36Ben Mandelker: i don't know if it's true but i i have to believe it's true and i'm gonna i'm gonna lean into it you know that just i agree now that works for me yeah he's a powerful man like there's nothing that ronnie can't do right i agree he's um yeah i'm so proud of him for doing this it was barbie by his side the two of them could get it all done they could fix what's going on in our country right now right i believe it they just gotta get together ronnie could ronnie would literally like get a ronnie would go to washington be like you know what what are you guys doing you know what this i've had enough of this okay i grew i was i worked in a bowling alley growing up and this is bullshit this is bullshit he would just go in there and he would just he would point his finger at everyone and he'd get he'd get shit done and then barbie would do something too yeah it would be effective in her own way yeah she would do her thing moral support precisely so um meanwhile we see um uh barbara so this season we have barbara not barbie but uh barbara is talking with fraser and uh he's freaking out because he's not getting anything from the event planner so then fraser goes up to carrie he's like my event kind of went quiet on me but here's a picture of the stage like well i thought the stage was going to be higher up but i guess this would be okay it's just a wood plank and uh some linens that's fine i guess we'll do all right with it like i don't know what sort of stage they were thinking they were going to be getting like a coachella stage in three hours yeah when he said he thought it was going to be like lifted i was like did you did you really think that because i didn't he had not even there he had literal high hopes yeah so then meanwhile um rainbow and selena are having another one of their scenes poor rainbow she's she's really trying to connect with the other women but she can't because i know one thing i don't know ash if you saw it in the earlier episode or if you'd already tuned out by then but rainbow shared a story about growing up in holland did you hear this yeah where she said that like when she and her sisters would fight all the time so her dad brought them to a an island in the middle of a lake and like said you have an hour and you guys can like tear yourself to pieces and then after that like no more fighting that's extreme parenting what that's what they call extreme parenting if your girls ever start fighting you find a lake in Holland specifically in Holland I think the Dutchness of it elevates the stakes I feel like you know Foster might have done this as well I was about to say this is what Anwar, Gigi and Bella had to do they figured it out if you want to have your Ahmed for dinner.

32:36Ben Mandelker: First you have to fight it out on island. That's like, think of the create Thunderdome for these kids that are just like, alright, come out normal. Seems like it did something. I don't know. I don't know if it worked. I think it gave her anxiety is what it did. High functioning anxiety. Three mortals enter. One mortal leaves. Don't hurt Gigi. She has the most promise.

33:04Ben Mandelker: Yeah, but Rainbow So she's like really struggling this season to connect with the other women. And you can see she's like trying. It's like she looked up on like the same AI that, you know, was talking to me about mattresses. It was like she asked Google, like, how do I relate to other women? And Google was like, that's a great question. Here's something you can do. You can hug a lot or you can ask nice questions or you can smile or maybe give a kiss on the cheek. so she's like been trying to do all these things in this like robotic way like that doesn't really match the context of the moment and now everyone's just weirded out by her so actually people are more distant from her than ever before so here she is again trying to connect and she's talking with seline and she's like so what's your least favorite dish to wash which is of course a question that like the most wild like who asks that of all you're putting stuff in the dishwasher that would throw me off as well i'd be like it was like what she was like i understand nothing can you please she understood she was just like i don't want to answer the stupid question when she said i understand nothing she meant like i understand nothing you're doing i don't understand your approach would have been weirder if she was like forks for sure like the sad part is i'm like what weird question and yet i would love someone to ask me that because i love answering questions like that what is the what is your least favorite dish what is what is your least favorite dish to wash oh i just have one in my notes yeah i hate washing i have slow feeders for my animals the cats and the dog and they're disgusting to wash because you have to get like in the crevices see mine is in a dish mine is a spoon oh because it oh because it cleans the water back at you always yeah but i think i think a spoon count i think like i think in this case like dishes is like holistically like when you're cleaning when you're doing dishes like what are your least i think a spoon a spoon counts um you also by the way um elena you also don't have to be a monster and put your full force of water on the spoon i mean use some judgment please no i can't help it though i feel weird turning it down because then i feel like it's not clean enough no you know what all about you can really get into the semantics here it's about the angle at which you hold it yeah i've learned to like do it to the back of the thing yeah it doesn't go right in my face but if i'm doing it quick boom yeah every time my life it is i um you know what i don't like washing at all oh i'll tell you what i hate wash okay i've got okay i got two things now they're all flooding in right now i say this by the way as dom is upstairs doing dishes i can literally hear i wish rainbow was here

35:50Ben Mandelker: i'm like she is so weird now let's spend 10 minutes talking but i do not like washing um a wire rack like if you have to like cook something on you know in like a pan they put a wire rack because first of all stuff is usually stuck onto it really badly but also it's like it's like the one it's like the sponge doesn't go over it nicely and i'm talking about like a gridded one not like lines yep and like the water it's like you want to spray it like it just you never quite get the right coverage and i would say the same goes for like a mesh strainer is also very annoying to me that's awful to wash really annoying salad spinner is oddly very annoying to wash because it's got like again lines the lettuce really clings to it too you think the lettuce would release right away but that lettuce will stay in there as long as it can it can stay in it's like clinging on for dear life it's like rainbow conversation the rainbow i'll tell you the number one worst thing to clean the number one this is a little bit more niche i have a silicone um rolling mat so if you want to like make like um like a pie dough or something like this you put it down on the counter so that way it doesn't stick as much and has like measuring things whatever and so you make your pie dough but then when you have to clean it it's this big floppy it's a big floppy flap of silicon yeah yep it's like selkie skin yeah that's all it's actually 100 selkie it was found found on a beach that is truly the worst thing to clean in the world i don't know if you guys have experience with that but it is it's there's just no good and easy way to do it just flops around in the sink i think yeah you win yeah it's the worst you can't get any purchase on it you're trying it's like nope if anyone has any tips on how to clean those things please let me know because i'm living in hell i'm in constant hell with this thing that is actually funny right now see i am in hell oh asked you this asked all of that she would be so happy with this conversation we could have connected so deeply i would have made her yachting experience much better because you would have we all would of because we would have we would have given her the the respect that that question deserved yeah absolutely so we'll just didn't have time for that no no no no time she's like no don't understand i know i hate i hate watching everything goodbye like why are you here i knew immediately when she said i understand nothing i was like this is not going to go how rainbow would like it no it's just no kept asking and kept reiterating and i was like i'm getting so uncomfortable i know yeah rainbow just like just just stop trying to connect with her at the point it's your desperation is driving people away just do your job don't talk to other people like talk to who you want to talk to don't yeah don't try to like get people's win people over because it's too late it's too late just head down head down kiss day yeah yeah exactly that seems to be building quietly is like a relationship with her and demo i don't know if that will happen but um oh my goodness my phone is ringing i bet this is my mom it's not i put everything on do not disturb and i cannot tell you the number of vibrations i've been dealing with on my watch and my phone during this entire podcast everybody's notifying anyway you know how they give you that option i'm surprised hasn't called she always knows when we're podcasting just did stop it i literally felt the vibrations right there my parents because of course i have them whitelisted that they can get through do not disturb and it's like literally every time it's like that phone rings it's like it's like the lights go down in the theater and then that phone starts to ring i'm like every single time yep they know okay so going so so now we have like rainbow gives us some background by the way we get the instagram wall comes flying up and she tells us i'm trying to do better as a leader and i would i would love to connect but it's just it's not working very well so growing up i was very much a troublemaker and now that's why i take so much responsibility which is when i'm involved in any conflict because growing up it was usually my fault and that's why i keep trying to like never give up but like it's just not the greatest feeling that was what she needs she needs some rest i'm sorry that made no sense she really just said like a lot and connected words would like and when she said growing up it was my fault i was like yeah she told you that like i was like oh yeah she's she's hurting what what she's like went through the scared straight program or something because she's like i was always a troublemaker i was always at fault so now i'm just like i don't know i'm just trying to like never give up she's i guess she's like afraid of it being her fault again like she did was there like a was there like a dead body that came into the mix here where she's like never again i can never go back to those ways it's you it's you ash never again the ghost of her past i scared her straight so um she that was like a little insight into what makes rainbow tick and then um now the boat is approaching this um is approaching the dock and this season the boat every single time has to go through the world's tiniest little gap they make this stupid ass bridge i'm like mad at this bridge why do you build the world's smallest drawbridge in front of like yacht plaza like there's so many yachts coming in and out of this thing and you decide to make a bridge that like you have to like slide through they do i'm mad i'm horrified by this bridge i don't want to drive on it i don't want to be near it i don't want to look at it no i hate it i think they should take it down i say take it down and and they'll figure out some other way to get to get across that gap because i think it's i don't i don't think i don't think it's right line channel zipline yeah or here's an idea how about a drawbridge that spans the entire gap not just the little corner of it that the boats have to go through there you go that seems much better that makes sense that's what we call that's what we call thinking right there that's what we call innovation yeah big thinking you know so really why i'm annoyed is because it means that every single episode we have to sit through them being like uh-oh are we gonna hit the are we gonna hit the dock are we at the bridge because they never hit it but we have to sit through like 10 minutes of them getting the fenders out and calling numbers like 54 meters three meters two meters there's a turtle there's dolphin oh we're fine everything's okay do you think they're gonna hit it at some point this season no because if they were gonna hit it they would have shown it in the previews that bravo cannot help themselves that's yeah that's very valid there was one season of sailing out where where remember they hit the dock and they they used that footage so much like it was it was in every single promo it was all the time they just showed that dock crumbling over and over and over again like if bravo can show like a crash that they will catastrophe they will do it yes no that's a good point yeah they'll do the best that they can um so they make in it's fine and uh now now they're they're still concerned about setting up this concert and so carrie's like well i don't see any guest requests as being unreasonable i just see it as layers of difficulty i had this one guest he wanted the sunset on the left side of the boat and not the right side of the boat so he spun the boat around like that does not compare to building a concert that's a false equivalency it's a little different that's like literally the most doable that's a very doable requests turning the boat around that's like literally his job is to move the boat like that's easy you move the boat around this is a concert yeah so i'll say this up there you know man this is tough um so they're setting up and everything um anthony's figuring out oh anthony and fraser have a spat this is a really tense moment i don't know if you caught this when you guys were watching.

43:56Ben Mandelker: But yeah, Anthony was like, are we still planning to have dinner at eight? He's like, well, it could be between seven and eight. All right. But I need to know what time. Well, between seven and eight. All right. But I want to know what time I make a magic happen. There's a lot of shit to do. He's like, well, how about between 701 and 759? I need a little bit more narrow than that. How about 730? He's like, fine. Well, we can do it at eight. say but i want to do it 7 30 now but what about eight oh my god it's like you guys are just fighting to fight at this point they absolutely are they hate each other because i love that he said between seven and eight and he was like no i need to know and then he was like 7 30 and he was like how about eight it's like you lit between seven and eight yeah they ended up at the same exact spot yeah i'm like it all worked out um so anthony is really you know he's spiraling because he's like they blow you really need to chill out this is what he tells us he's like so i've been doing this job for a really long time and I don't need babysitter.

44:56Ben Mandelker: I also have some questions like why I got fired that way. I hear on podcast that I was being undermined. I don't know. Someone from Texas was very angry at Fraser and I decided I'm angry too. Ronnie. Ronnie Karam. Not sure. That is what I hear from Bobby. So Jess and Selene are flirting and making out and stuff and And Solana's telling us that she's definitely like way more attracted to men, but like she's like, no, the testosterone is so hard, but we Scottish. I'm not closing door with him, but I really don't know. I really don't care. I really don't care who Solana's attracted to it right now.

45:41Ben Mandelker: I'm like, fold your sheets and just wipe that surface. Go find your favorite dish to wash. Yeah. Yeah. How about this? How about you find some preferences on what you like to wash? yeah how about you how about you reveal that you have um thoughts on these things go connect you know what if you're dead yeah connect with rainbow how about that she deserves it she does she does she's trying to connect with you you should connect back with her instead of connecting with with other people while you should be working so um there's still that there's a lot of time setting up for this concert they continue to set up plates are going out uh performers are arriving it is starting to look a bit more like a like a concert and so then finally it's time so fraser radios the interior they round up all the guests and they have to be at the sky lounge in 10 minutes and they get up there and they open up the the vip lounge to the deck and the concert is there there's like 15 people there dancing they make it they try to make it look like it's like really big big concert but you can kind of see it's like it's like 30 people you know yeah yeah i think that might be generous yeah yeah but it's cool i mean there's like there are definitely people on stilts and there's like fire dancers and yeah there's a lot of activity like it was it was a thing they pulled it off but then i was like so you guys are doing this whole big concert on the dock just so you can watch it from the yacht yeah you're just gonna stay on the yacht about because i did not see them go yeah we're out there for like maybe five minutes they were like hey okay we're gonna go back on the out now like they went to bed at 9 30 what did they yeah because i was i was looking at it and i'm like oh the whole crew has to stay up until they go to sleep huh and i was like that would i would struggle like i'd be like you guys gotta go sleep yeah sometimes they stay up until like 2 a.m them going to sleep and it said 9 30 you know the kind of people that go to sleep at 9 30 i know i was shocked yeah they and they like i mean i think at some point they went down to the deck but like i'm onto the dock but like they were primarily on the boat yeah they're like just set up something that we can see from the boat which just felt it felt weird it felt unnecessary there was something also that that felt there was something weird about like these like white americans coming to the islands and being like i'm gonna stay on a boat i'm gonna look down i will not actually i won't actually go into it i'm just gonna walk look down and like perform your culture for us i don't know like it was it was like i got this it was had this undertone very american it was the like just watching them experience the thing that they had orchestrated like was so weird from their pedestal yeah it was just such a weird yeah there's there was something about it like you know i don't know why if they had gone into the like if they had actually like spent more time on the dock it would have felt less like that i don't know i think there's just being on this big luxury boat yeah and making everyone move all the stuff around to put on this performance for them to watch on this boat looking down on them it just sort of like the optics of it and the vibe of it just felt like i was like i don't know how i feel about this yeah it's very charter guest at the very least it was very charter guest and to be fair we did see them go down onto the dock so that there was that too but i was like wait but you're not planning to spend your time primarily on the dock no it's like they went through all this trouble you just want something to look at from the boat i don't know yeah too much next time it's called you know what i do plug in your phone and press play on some music that's what i said and then signing rocks back in to dress up like a mermaid and jump in the water there you go i mean someone speaking of mermaids right yeah speaking of selfies the original speaking of selkies she's a selkie that lost her way and became a mermaid.

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51:26broccoli soup it looks really good though it looked delicious but like he's acting like he

51:32Ben Mandelker: was gonna make like a peking duck or something yeah but like i thought it was gonna be intense yeah yeah so everyone's wasted fraser drops a glass breaks a glass he drops a glass and then of course guess who's there to see it pride of the selkies she's like horrible pride of the selkie she's like you dropped that fraser what the fraser i said you made a mess fraser i felt so bad i was like fraser say something really mean to her kill her sacrifice your job i couldn't dawn was so awful that i couldn't tell if she was actually doing like tongue-in-cheek bossiness and like f was i sort of had this feeling like after every time we saw her bark at them she laughed like i'm just kidding i'm just kidding i'm just kidding let me help you up with that but they just kept on cutting that part out just to make her look terrible like because she was so bad i couldn't imagine that she was she was that bad sincerely the entire time that's yeah nasty it's always weird when you see these people be so awful because you're like you know you're being filmed right now like there's a camera in your face so are you turning it on for the camera or are you worse when there's no cameras probably worse yeah well it's always you know and the thing is this please note that dawn as well as that little guy with the beard who is a piece of shit as well they were the bossiest and the loudest and they were friends of the primaries and like you know on below deck and the below deck the greater world it's always the friends of's who get like the free ride who are always the most obnoxious the primaries are usually not as obnoxious they can be but it's always the friends who are like you know they were the ones that gifted this or even if they have to pay there's something about being the friend of they just like want to make a mark or something and they are the worst on these shows remember that one friend who wouldn't share a room with another girl and the poor girl was like sleeping in the main living area and then captain lee had to give up his bed for her to sleep there oh my god that was i 100 forgot that i don't ever forget that as long as i live she was like no she's not sleeping in here by the way she's on this trip like she's a cow you can sleep in my room she's a cow i think he called her a coward something awful i love it when the guests fight with each other like i get so invested in their drama when they are bickering and they're like cindy be quiet you have to go to bed cindy go to bed right now cindy and cindy's like what you always do this ever since i think you always done go to bed cindy you're drunk i'm not drunk drunk you're drunk I'm happy you're the man that's crumbling because their shit always it turns into like an Edward Albee play and I'm like I would like to watch that hell yeah watch more of that could keep the cameras on yes it looks like this season is gonna be crazy like next episode or maybe the next couple yeah yeah there's gonna be a drunk lady some lady off the boat yeah that's the thing I think about the beginning of this season is like I was like I want to see more of the guest drama and less of the less of the romance it looks like there will be more it does actually after watching this episode and seeing what was to come i was like i think i might be signing back on to this season i know no the trailer was great i mean it's it's been like a perfectly fine season i just don't really like the tweaks that they've made and the past like two or three weeks like this whole thing with solane it's like it's just it's like deeply uninteresting to me maybe i'm like a curmudgeon but i just i i tune into these shows to see like the work dynamics workplace dynamics and it's like not i don't really care who she's going to choose now i know that she her previous experience was that she was on like love island france but oh yeah i forgot that maybe that's maybe that's why she maybe she's like used to this sort of situation that's what she was called in for that makes sense did you guys watch love by the way I can't get into Love Island and I keep trying I have not tried but I feel like I want to I want to so desperately and I'll everyone talks about it yeah I'm like I feel like I'm missing out on something same wow I really feel like rainbow trying to connect with people what's your favorite love island I understand what's your favorite what love island um so uh so anyway Dawn is making fraser's life hell and he's like they have no decorum no class and uh he's not wrong they're like and then they're just like yelling like rainbow get over here rainbow one of them's like you can't leave the room rainbow i was like oh my god yeah punch that guy in the face and then one of them i think it's dawn says you don't make the rules i make the rules and i was like you know that person was literally hired to run this ship like they do in fact make the they do they actually make the rules don don makes zero rules i don't know who don is i don't know what her job is i want to actually go back to the previous episode and like zoom in on the preference sheet because sometimes you can see what their jobs are i know that they all run strip clubs but i don't know if i don't know does don is don does she deal with the day by day she's not a stripper herself i don't think i think she's just sort of like running i think she comes by and she drops off the booze she's like i got some booze for you you know great night a great shift or she's like the mean lady in the back that like makes the lineup maybe she's the dj she's like all right everyone coming out next is cinnamon get out there cinnamon i'll make the rules you're next you don't make the rules i believe it uh so um then rainbow is she's stressed you know she's stressed because she literally wears it all over her face she's like oh and uh she like her eyebrows go up and she like her eyes get big and she's like i don't know what to do so she's asking where so so is which is solene and solene is off talking to the deck team because of course she's flirting with them etc with basically jess and so fraser is like you know i think it's like a mid-season situation where things have been going so good so you feel like you can sit back and fucking do nothing and rainbow's like yeah it's like kind of demotivating for me you know like i'm not about to cry but i'm gonna cry because i still don't know what her least favorite dish is to clean i mean i just there's so many options i could have helped her out with that colander could it be colander please tell me so she's rainbow is losing it because she's doing all the work and so so is off talking to the deck team and flirting with jess and all that stuff and then demo demo weighs in and he's like i'm starting to see that jess and Selene are distracting each other, which ends up causing more work for us.

58:19Ben Mandelker: And it's fine. You're welcome to be distracted by another attractive person at work, but everybody needs to do their part. And you need to do your job because we're a team. And we pick up everyone else's lack when Smellis drops the line. So we're all going to fall over. It's not good. So we're basically all getting annoyed at Selene. So she's never going to get fired, though, because she's too good to be, right? Do you think she should be fired? Yes. In a work sense, absolutely. For watching this show sense, no. Yeah, she literally has been totally incapable the entire season. She does like three things and she's like, that is a lot of work.

58:54Ben Mandelker: Time for me to have break now. She says that at least three times an episode, it seems. She does like three times within like 15 minutes on this episode, I swear to God. And later, was she actually drinking? Yeah, she was drinking something. Maybe it was just apple juice. I don't know. But she was like, oh, time for break for me. Because they gave her that edit where they show everyone working really hard and then she's like drinking a beverage in the corner. oh time for work time for break so um rambo is telling rambo's getting frustrated she's like you know she just doesn't want to do it it's like i get it you're tired but i'm also tired i'm more than happy to help the team any way possible i'll even clean my least favorite dish whatever that is someone can ask i'll never tell just kidding i would love to tell someone you know she's like so Celine I don't know if you realize this but when I ask you what what's your least favorite dish it's more so that way you'll then ask me what's your least favorite dish and then I can tell you because I have something planned but you'll ask me so I can't let it out and I have all this anxiety built up inside me about pizza cutters oh pizza cutters are a bad one to clean oh those aren't so bad because when you do it it spins that's true but what about ice cream fingers but then it's like but then you have to move it to get behind where the wheel that's true it's the handle that's true i usually sort of grab it the i sort of do like a swirly on it on top i hold it carefully i um i'll tell you what is bad is a uh i like an old-fashioned ice cream scoop or a cookie scoop you've got that metal thing that swings you have to get under that and you have to make sure you get under the little metal piece that's almost impossible that's hard to see rainbow had a lot to say i know it she had a whole plan we have this much and there's gonna be more that pops into our heads she's one places yeah she she should have a podcast like we thought that was a strange question to ask but i'm thinking now and i'm like was that the ultimate conversation starter because like yeah when you really think i want to talk about listen i don't want to talk i don't want to recap anymore put that on your hinge profile yeah yeah i was just a podcast called dishing it oh wow that's smart i like that give that to her i just thought a sourdough starter container those are awful to clean i don't have one of those wait what uh tell me i don't have one is that like the why and why tell me what that looks like and why it's so awful okay so just whatever you can keep it in whatever container you want to mine's a jar but it gets so crusted on there that it's like impossible to get off and you really shouldn't put it down your drain because they expand Wow.

1:01:41Ben Mandelker: I did not know that. I thought Alaina's terrified of sourdough. Because she'll be like, oh, I have to feed my starter. I'm like, what do you mean you have to feed it? It's hungry. What? And then you're going to make me bread with it? Like, I just can't. I like to call it selkie flesh. Selkie flesh. Feeding my selkie flesh. It's very nice. I always like that. And it like tells you that it's hungry, doesn't it? Well, it doesn't say like, hey, I'm hungry, but there are characteristics where I can tell. i think it would be better the characteristics um it gets like super um like it gets bubbles on top that almost look like soap bubbles that's when it's like super duper hungry oh and also when you open up the jar it goes feed me

1:02:29feed me all night long he's like you know what later

1:02:43Ben Mandelker: are you making do you make a lot of sourdough or do you just have a starter there just for no i do make a lot of sourdough she does and it's really good yeah thank you yeah i demand some next time i come to boston oh i will bring them i make really good sourdough discard chocolate chip muffins oh yeah i'll bring you those uh what's the discard part of it so the you're like unfed uh like it's unfed starter see this is the stuff i never asked because i don't i thought you're but i thought you're feeding yours why would you not i'm so confused that i'm a baker but i'm like so you have wait a second it sounds you have your starter how do you not don't you feed all of your started isn't it like just either like the starter is fed or the starter is not fed well so the starter is fed and when it's when it's like really eaten everything or like in the process of eating everything it doubles and dies yeah that kind of because it does sort of burp it bubbles and that's when you get the good bubbles that's when you want to use it for like your sourdough bread but then it goes back down once it's kind of like eaten everything So then it's unfed sort of.

1:03:57And that's the discard. And that's when you can either use that for a recipe or you can throw it like a discard recipe or you can throw it away. It's an active starter.

1:04:07Ben Mandelker: So you want to use it when it is fed and it's big. When it's active. If you're making sourdough bread because that's when your bread is going to start rising. Okay. So you feed it. It gets bigger. And then when it's big, you use that to start your bread. but if you decide not to use it it's going to go back down again and then it can become discard discard which is by the way honestly quite rude it's a horrible thing to say like i haven't fed you therefore you're a discard it's like i've been waiting don't call me a discard i'm sitting here in my jar waiting to be fed see i use my card i don't discard my discard hard i just i really hope that we pull this entire sourclo clip and like put it on um make a video out of it so that way you can give a sourdough tutorial while dressed like a dead bride maybe i should but that will be my youtube channel there you go dead bride bakes um so anyway uh the point is rainbow is going through it as usual so she's like but rainbow is also she's a passive aggressive boss too because she's like oh my god solane great work today you know what why don't you go to bed oh but first you clean all the toilets thank you so much i kind of loved that when she did it i was like hell yeah that's what you get for not telling me your favorite dish to wash yeah next time tell me your thoughts on food processor blades maybe i'll help you with the toilets yeah honestly it's like punishment that's what you get so but of course solane light does nothing she's like no i'm gonna go to bed so then rainbow is up until five in the morning or so actually just two in the morning still but then i'll go again yeah they're up because she goes to the 230 then it's 5 45 in the morning anthony anthony's waking up and um he's gonna make some lobster benedict and you know everyone's getting ready for some morning service or whatever um and then barbara goes up to hugo and she's like can i ask you something and he's like yeah what's up she's like uh you're in a open relationship right he's like yeah do you like someone here i was like what i was just nosy questioning on charter i was like barbara do you like him i thought you were listening i felt like the producers were like hey barbara go ask hugo about his open relationship since he's late to the show and we need to get him talking about his personal life let him mention it again probably that yeah and then he's like well are you there pimp or madam and she's like i am a matchmaker i was like what are you talking about did what is this matchmaking without context because we didn't see anyone say that they like hugo right i think she did this on purpose though to make it seem like Soso liked Hugo so then Hugo would flirt with Soso and then she could flirt with Jess without having to worry about Soso I think she kind of masterminded I kind of love that I do too I kind of really love Barbara Barbara is I think I love Barbara and I think it's like 90 % her hair no it absolutely is her hair is gorgeous her hair is amazing and her personal style when she's off the yacht is also great too it's like yeah it's I'm just I'm like I'm like obsessed with Barbara.

1:07:26Ben Mandelker: But I just had no idea what she was doing here. Like I was very confused. She's like, I have matchmaker. She's like, so I have to speak with you because before I spread gossip, he's like, well, he's like, my team's got it covered, right? Because they're both still fighting for one. So I don't want to get mixed up on that. And she's like, yeah, but you like Celine, right? And she's like, he's like, yeah, she's pretty. She's like, okay, that's not the problem because we still have another one. I said, what are you talking about, Barbara? What's going on, Barbara? I haven't seen enough scenes to support this conversation right now.

1:07:52Ben Mandelker: It makes no sense to me. so then of course we get like instagram wall of hugo and he's saying that he's in an open relationship and he's like i'd be lying if i said if i didn't say that selene was attracted but i just see so many hands in this pot i was like i was like damn talk about a dish that's difficult to clean huh he said it's not that it's a turnoff it really just shuts me off i was like is that not a turnoff i'm like wait wait what it's not a turn that's about it it's a little different it's a shut off worse i'll turn off just a shut off i guess he's saying i'm still attracted to her but i am not going to pursue it i'm shutting off my pursuant my i'm not going to go down that path but yeah it's a strange term of phrase that he used so um yeah he's saying he really wants to connect with people and that's the most important factor i was like good luck on this cast yeah you may connect with that you see how our brain was having it tell you about it i know if you want to connect with people a better i hope you're not bringing your uh your your dish cleaning banter because that's not going to work it's not the a-game we work with us the three of us yeah off you would pop off gangbusters with us but we will talk about it we will talk about everything but not this crew good luck they don't good luck good luck talking about um soap

1:09:28Ben Mandelker: scum um so anyway um by the way have you guys covered on your podcast any really good maritime murders we really haven't actually i know we've been wanting to do more of those actually because i i love them when i hear them anywhere else we did one that was a uh like this really remote place in alaska yep and there was like a whole crew of people that got murdered on a boat and it's still unsolved yeah that was a crazy one it was craig alaska you might be right craig craig gone over alaska exactly well i can think of that one but yeah we haven't done a lot of maritime we gotta watch uh that captain lee show to get some get some ideas yeah we did like the um indianapolis that was a really good one why was it so good just fascinating both stories in that one and then the stories of like them surviving up to a point then how they like horrifically died like shark attacks and it was like that story threw me time disasters maritime disasters are real those are those are those are pretty wild but i feel like there's there's also like a number of those stories of people who fall overboard you know like there was like a yeah cruise ships there was one i remember like two or three years ago there was like a gay couple that got drunk and they got into a fight and then one guy like wound up falling overboard and he was clinging onto the side of the boat and people were filming him and then he couldn't cling on any longer and then he just i looked at the video and it was really horrifying oh wow yeah yeah yeah and that's like my biggest fear the ocean scares me so much it's too fast scary it's so scary too too fast i don't belong in there no no no one there none of us don't that's not that's not our natural natural habitat no because you know what like i just think what would happen if i were left adrift at sea and i I couldn't tell anyone what my least favorite dish was to clean.

1:11:25Ben Mandelker: I thought of one that's really good. Someone save me. I have to let this out. I need to tell you why. That's how they find you. They're like, we have this weird sound of someone yelling about dish strainers. You become lore.

1:11:44Ben Mandelker: Garlic presses. They're so annoying. no i just don't i'm an earth sun i belong on land yeah i'm an air sign so i guess i'll go to space i don't know what i am but what's your what's your sign sagittarius oh your fire yes fire volcano yeah i mean i want to go to volcano like what is that but by the way elena yours is the only sign that actually makes sense like i'm an earth sign so i want to be on land the rest of us is like i'm a fire sign so i'm gonna throw myself to a pit of fire that's not true does it mean you're fiery yeah it just means you're fiery because john's an earth uh fire sign too yep i think when people think of me ben mandelker they're like look at that fiery guy look at him going to look at him as he look as he opens up his latest copy of an eina garten book oh fiery personality wait do you know your rising sign i don't have to turn this into an astrology I would love to hear it.

1:12:46Ben Mandelker: How do I find out what my rising sign is? Do you know what time you were born? I think around 830 or something like that in the morning. Okay. Text me with that information later and I'll tell you your rising sign and your moon sign. Okay. I would love to know. Your big three is very important. I'm pretty sure my rising sign is sourdough. Sad sourdough, not discard. Sad fed. Just a sourdough. Okay, so back to what's happening on this boat. So Carrie congratulates Fraser for doing a great job. And then Fraser's basically saying how the staff is kind of starting to slip a little bit. And he's like, every year I see it happen and I don't want to happen again.

1:13:33Ben Mandelker: So I'm going to have a meeting with him where I'm very, very serious. But before I do that, I'm going to gossip with him a whole bunch. Good luck. good luck um so uh fraser is the fraser they're like pulling into the dock there or they're they're actually already at the dock but they're like waiting for everyone to leave this boat because it's the next day and while they're waiting fraser and kyle are sitting on like a staircase and inside they hear dawn be like that laugh is going to haunt me for the rest of my days it's chilling it is chilling I woke up hearing it and there was also like three seals at my door too I was like what is happening so weird they said take her we will not be continuing on this so much yeah no she's terrible she is just the worst so then they're all like well they haven't lined up yet but everyone's like gathering together and Fraser's like, he's gossiping with Barbara.

1:14:38Ben Mandelker: He's like, so guess what, Barbara? I just heard some gossip from Kyle while we were both listening to Don's awful, awful laugh. When we picked up the guest, Soso said and Kyle had a kiss in the bathroom. And Barbara's like, oh, okay. I don't think Barbara really cares that much. I know I don't care personally. No. I don't think that Fraser should be gossiping with his second st or it's third yeah yeah i feel like i don't think it's like good to be gossiping about another stew to the other stew when you're in your own department that's gonna cause some issues but that's what he kind of does though because he did it last season with barbie he would talk about barbie to anyone who would listen that is absolutely correct so barbara tells us that she loves jess and everything but like she just is worried that jess is going to get hurt because like she's definitely had that experience with like straight people that like you know they come they like to experiment with like you know that they like to like experiment with a girl i should say straight women they come experiment with a girl then go back to guys and i definitely feel like that's probably going to happen with solane what do you guys 100 oh 100 yeah yeah this is this is definitely gonna happen so the guests say goodbye they give their tip and everything and they're you know they're nice enough they're like thanks for everything it was great so then um kyle uh kyle goes over to jess and he has this like weird moment where he's like sword you got a minute jess can i have a quick word with you quick weird okay i don't know about you but i'm terrified i feel like i heard the sound that the selkies all chart along those are my people you know anyway so you beat me with a punch with solene right so i was a bit gutted however like she has been sneaking kisses with me throughout the past charter so just want you to know that i was like what sort of posturing are you doing trying to like trying to like intimidate jess out of this love triangle or something like that like 100 i don't know i felt like it was he was he was he was really sulking a lot all episode about this love triangle too which i don't know why that surprise it sort of surprised me a little bit i sort of thought he'd be like down for it but yeah not like it at all i feel like he he falls so hard though like even last time with barbie he was like all in yeah and so jess is like yeah i mean i i guess i owe you an apology i just you know like you know i should have spoken to you about it i'm just having fun i'm like i don't think i don't think that she owes him an apology because um i don't think he would apologize to her if it was the other way around at all and in fact i don't think so in fact when solane was showing that she was interested in jess he still was pursuing trying to get kisses from solane and he was unapologetic about that so i say kyle deal with it so that was my moment of sassiness fire sign fire sign podcasting everyone watch out so fiery um so then fraser is talking to selaine and he's like so did you kiss scottish and she's like no i really don't remember it's like stop stopping stop that stop being you know she's like oh i was washing toilets i don't know i was confused i panic i don't know did i kiss him i don't know so they all sit down for the tip meeting that's like the extent of you that's what usually what her interactions are like i don't know i don't know it's crazy i don't understand So Kerry is like, all right, everybody, quite a chatter, a lot of challenges involved, incredibly amazing, kind and friendly guests.

1:18:15Ben Mandelker: Just kidding. They were the worst guests I've ever met in my entire life. What more could you ask for? A little bit of respect because, you know, what I give what I get. There we go, the boobie motion. Special extra one there. You did great jobs, everyone. First charter with us, so good job, Hugo. You took a lot of pressure off my shoulders and you've done a great job. Everything was great, great, great, great, great times, but i'm starting to see some complacency now got twist like this would be a nice tip meeting guess what i'm seeing complacency now is not the time to just flatline which is why you all are going to get two days off right now so that way you can flatline off the boat all right enjoy everyone so they get what'd you say you can literally die off the boat just as long as you're back flat line the fuck off this boat just get back to work i don't care if you're dead come back as a ghost because this teak needs some wax and those sheets need folding we ghost ghost maids around here so they're excited because they're gonna get two days off they're gonna also have a villa so they're they're definitely trying to create something here like usually they have like one day off and they just get to leave the boat and go to like a club and they come back but it's two days in the villa so they're gonna have kind of like a little bit of like a real world or summer house experience for for an episode which should be nice and chaotic so um uh jess and barbara are talking and jess is like so what kind of coffee to drink in the morning she's like coffee she's like well i have my specialty why because i was going to bring you coffee this morning but i didn't know what coffee to drink i was like so you know a lot of exciting things are happening in this boat right now yeah she's like do you have a favorite mug to drink your coffee in well she was doing it in front of uh so so so so there it was like a little bit of a flirty moment right they were like was that she trying to make her jealous 100 because she just heard from kyle yeah everybody's messing with everybody your your theory is really sounding good that she's trying to she's trying to have Hugo come in to steal away Solaine's.

1:20:22Ben Mandelker: That way Jess is free to go with Barbara. It really makes sense now. I fully think that's what it is. After that coffee interaction, after talking about coffee, I was like, oh, it's clear. She's into something maniacal. That was a maniacal coffee interaction. It was. It was out of control. I think so. Somebody should get her. um so then um so fraser now it's time for him to have a serious meeting everyone it's time for a serious fraser meeting is everyone ready listen i know we had good comments from our guests on departure but i wasn't happy at all i think we can do better i think we've become really comfortable and to that effect barbara could you sit up for me please i oh my god i was so angry it bothered me so much that she was just laying down when i say that we become comfortable i also mean you're literally too comfortable in this meeting i need you to be somewhat imagine laying down while your boss was telling you something yeah if your boss is like an angry face then you have to be like sit up straight yeah just that's all just engage a bit yeah when i said comfortable i didn't mean it literally but now i actually do please sit up barbara okay okay please take that blanket off stop snuggling on that stuffed animal okay thank you so much i was shocked yeah that was a lot listen i know it's the meat of the season and i know that we're tired especially rainbow look at her over there trembling in the corner she asked me about plates and i don't understand what her issue is she asked me the other day if i've ever cleaned a potato ricer and i said why are you asking these things she's cracked she's gonna be we've lost rainbow and what i'm trying to say is we need to save her so please everyone work harder okay rainbow how are you doing over there she's like wax on wax off um i'm drowning she just is like holding she's like clutching a blender cup she's like how to clean this i hate cleaning these by the way cleaning a blender is actually really it's a joy you know why because you put the soap in there in the water and you hit the blender and you let it you let the blender do the work yep is that how you clean your i've never done that it's very that's how you do it that's actually so innovative so it's to me it's a two-step process you you put like soap and water in the blender and you could do this with a food processor too but you put some water in the blender and then you wear it up you let it go for 30 seconds but i also got from oxo one of those like long brushes so there's usually some stuff that's tough so you go in there with a brush afterwards but then you're set the blender is like a two second clean it's not how to be the yeah it does not have to be a enemy to you anymore in the kitchen yeah this could this couldn't have come at a better time because i'm making pesto tonight boom thanks for that uh literally the best time ever a pre-pesto cleaning plan i'm so excited for you it's a big day for me will you be serving it with sourdough bread please say yes oh my god i should i don't know i have a loaf but i'll try you better start feeding that sourdough starter that's what i gotta say you better you better feed it now don't okay so then um selene is cleaning and she's doing a terrible job as usual and um she's like not very detail-oriented she's just like whatever let me just do what i have to do to get it done and rainbow's like she's like you know you you you gotta like work you gotta to be you gotta care about this a little bit more because do you know what breaks my heart when you say things like they don't care it's like well they don't care the guests don't care no but i genuinely care because it's your own work product why don't you care about your own work product she's like i don't have time you know your heart is stronger you know otherwise like you don't do this too much you're not going to pass 30 years you're going to die because you care too much which is which is fact she said you're gonna die before 30 i was like whoa it was read but it was true rainbow needs to like breathe a little more it was the most apathetic read too she was like i don't care she does not care she does not care and she does not understand why are you working harder because i don't care selene then explains to us her whole life motto she's like you know i love risk and adrenaline you know when you know you feel like when you're when you're little children they say and you do something bad, for example, and your parents told you, so Lynn, stop eating all the chips.

1:25:00Ben Mandelker: And they told me no. And I was like, yes, yes, no. I eat all the chips in my room. A lot of packets of chips everywhere. Chips, chips everywhere. Like, yes, the adrenaline rush of eating chips when you're not supposed to in your bedroom. It all relates. I love the adrenaline. What happened with her in the chips? What, like... There's something deeper there. She tells the chip stories that this was a universal thing that happened to all of us. Like, you know, like, When you have a bunch of bags of chips in your bedroom one night and you're not supposed to. And I was like... You just eat them all.

1:25:31Ben Mandelker: I mean, I definitely had like... I snuck a cookie here and there as a kid. That's normal. But when she was like, what do you have bags here and there? I have bags and bags and chips. Oh, I live for the adrenaline. I was like, have I lived? Because I have not had that experience. Not if you've not had that many chips, no. Today, we're all going to the supermarket. grab not just one or two maybe like six bags of chips yeah and don't tell anyone and bring them into your room and see what happens here if you live alone just even if you live alone call someone and then when they ask you like hey what are you up to be like nothing i'm just in my bedroom doing bedroom things don't tell them about the chips and just feel the rush not eating chips that's for sure society is about to have a pivotal shift do not eat the chips so um yeah she loves she loves that um and meanwhile kyle is flirting with solane and he's like oh so live your life you're the one making the decision you know you're the one you're making your own bed you're making your own bed and she's like what why why is my bed in this conversation and he's just like never

1:26:45Ben Mandelker: he's like because he's like flirting with her also there's there's really no world where selena is going to make a bed voluntarily in a situation he says like yeah yeah because he's like trying to make her feel bad for being in a triangle and he's like you made your own bed and she's like i will never make my own bed if i'm neither what contexts i've never made any bed don't plan to she's like did he see the chips the chips i've been hiding in my bed speaking of making beds fraser now said it's complaining that there are masters there there are still sheets on the in the bed in the primary and so selena's like oh well rainbow was in there she put it all in a bag and fraser was like rainbow the sheets from the guests were they on the bed and she's like yeah so why weren't they all done and taken to the main salon why not and and she's like well i just have a lot of work and they're basically like rainbow said she was gonna take the sheets down but she didn't take the sheets down look at rainbow slacking which is so obnoxious yeah that's elaine would throw rainbow under the bus when rainbow is picking up all the slack for her that was real mean it was a bitch move bitch move so of course rainbow starts like course losing it oh my god i'm like giving like a hundred percent and like why is it like not good enough is there something wrong with me like what the am i doing like let me know what i'm gonna do better she's like not now guys i can't i can't why i can't have you guys watching me make this bed right now she like closes the door behind her it's a lot she has a lot of feelings she does she has so many feelings i know they all need to go to that island in holland yeah and find it out

1:28:29Ben Mandelker: my final answer is going to be cast iron grill pan. My least favorite dish to clean, everyone. Cast iron grill pan. In case anybody cares. But you don't. But you don't. She just yells that up at the boat on the last day. They're like, what? It was cast iron skill. Cast iron skill if anyone ever cared. But you did. They're like, what did she say? See you never. serrated knife what about that i don't like it wouldn't know you wouldn't know you never asked so that's actually that's actually how the episode ends was is her like having a meltdown while she makes the bed and slams the door in our face and um which is kind of funny because then they're like still to come this season like it's like this was like an epic cliffhanger like is is rainbow gonna be able to make that bed like oh no can she write the ship right now can she do it like this is such a big cliffhanger we have to show the rest of the season to cliff like the trailer this is so big but that was it that was the end of the episode um how'd you guys how'd you guys feel about the episode wow that much wow you loved it you know it wasn't the the greatest below deck of all time but i will say the trailer made me the the mid-season trailer i was like all right i'm coming back that's how i felt trailer was great because trailer um we see that there's that lady who's so drunk that looks like they have to they have to medevac her out of there and then there's yeah and then there's also intrigue about whether or not kyle sleeps with the guests yes so fun which what do we think i think 100 he looked very guilty yeah the way he's pulling his pants up when he gets out of the ocean i said the way he's and the way he looks at the camera he's like yeah i fucked her like he doesn't care no could not give a fuck he's gonna fuck whatever he wants to fuck yeah um i just want to say thank you again so much for coming on to this blow deck episode remind everyone where they can follow you on social media and how they can listen to your podcasts well thank you for having us thank you for having us this was awesome this was so much fun we're always around this you is not yeah and i don't know anything about our social media so i think our instagram is at a morbid podcast or potentially at morbid podcast try both see where see where it lands you see what happens okay see what happens um you can find them at um number one selkie fan so definitely definitely there you can find us watching our least favorite dishes i'm moaning and groaning about it while your sourdough watches hurry up hurry up lady i need to be fed

1:31:21Ben Mandelker: put down that colander put down that honey dripper no but i need to get every crevice um thank you again so much if you if if listeners are interested in true crime and um and you have and for some reason you are not already listening to morbid which is crazy because i'm like not even joking because you're like the biggest podcast in the entire world it's crazy how is how do you guys have you guys have the biggest podcast um it's crazy how i turn to shambador i've never seen such a big podcast wow archie archie um uh go check out morbid it's an awesome podcast and thank you again so much for coming on.

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