#2929 Next Gen NYC S1E7 part 1: Touched a Shore Spot with Danny Murphy

0:20Ben Mandelker: Hello and welcome to Watch What Crappens, a podcast about all that crap on Bravo that we just love to talk about. I am Ben Mandelker and joining me today while Ronnie is still out on his lovely vacation it is the one the only the hilarious the wonderful Danny Murphy from page six and virtual reality hi Danny how are you good how are you I'm so excited to be in the crappens universe again you boys are the best as always oh my goodness well we adore you which is why we keep tapping you to come come back although i shouldn't say that like if you don't get happy you know that's not like but we just we just it just speaks to how much we adore you oh my god i also love i wait is he on a culinary tour as well what is his vacation energy or is it uh no it's not a secret ronnie um is getting his eyes done wait lasik or or a plastic um you know how like you can develop tissue under like your brow right and so like uh he got some of it just sort of like sort of like cut away.

1:23Ben Mandelker: I love this. Yeah. So he's just been recovering, but also a vacation because I took my week off. And so he's entitled to take a week off. So he's resting, but he's also he's recovering, but he's also I think having some much, much needed R &R. Good. Okay. He deserves that. I'm excited to see the eye debut too. I know. Me too. I'm so excited for him. I also have some tissue that's like causing this eye to be like a little wonky. Do we say that for the insurance coverage? I'm like, mine is wonky too.

1:55Ben Mandelker: I don't know. I'm too lazy to do anything about it. I'll be like this, like three years in the podcast. I'm like, today we're talking about Brooks Marks. Just like all in voiceover like him on next gen. Yes, exactly. So speaking of which we are here to talk about next gen NYC. I should also mention this is, uh, this recap is also available on video. You can go to patreon.com slash watch what happens. And if you support on the video level, watch crap is on demand level is what it's called. You can watch us, not just listen. And I encourage everyone to look at Danny's beautiful face. I'm like, your, your skin is so clear.

2:32Like you are so refreshed. I'm obsessed.

2:35Ben Mandelker: Uh, thank you. Thank you for that. It's true. I have a really good camera. I invested in a good camera, so I would like to say it's my skin, but it's just the camera. Okay. The best of both worlds, the best of both worlds. I will say it's, I will say that I, I used to have terrible skin. I said the worst skin because I had the, I had, uh, basically my brother, when I was like 12, taught me how to like, um, put on like anti pimple stuff. Like he was like, he was like, okay, first you put on Seabreeze, which I don't know if they even sell Seabreeze stringent on clear a cell, which it turns out, I don't know.

3:09Ben Mandelker: I don't know. This is not what you're supposed to do for your skin. And I, of course I was 12. So I was like, okay, I'll do what my brother says. And I continued with that skin. I did not question it until I was 30. I just kept up doing it. I was like, Oh man, no. Okay. I would just do it. And like, the thing is like you would strip away all the oils with the, the sea breeze and then you add the clear cell and it would just clog everything up. And it was, I just, you got dry breakouts all the time. Non stop breakouts for all of high school, all of college, my entire twenties, I had terrible acne.

3:46Ben Mandelker: and then one time I got pneumonia and I was like too sick to actually bother with a skincare regimen and I emerged and I was like wait a second it looks great pneumonia is the hack alright let me just always be pale and sick and then I was like wait a second I'm never going to touch those things again so yes that's a nice little story that has nothing to do with anything we're talking about today thanks for the three people who are left listening today we're at the Dolce & Gabbana event yes yes yes we are they're at a Dolce & Gabbana event they will be leaving for it very soon they haven't left just yet soon we're talking next gen New York City what are your thoughts on this season tell me everything no I don't know it kind of I feel this first season is sort of like the same situation as the first season of the valley when the trailer came out hated it I was like what are we doing here first episode i was like what is what is happening but i was like okay it's a lot of setup so we need the setup very sizzle really very very sizzling hot yes and then second onward i don't know what switched in me or switched on the show i can't stop watching it it's so good i i i'm blown away and eating my words about not wanting the show to happen because all of them are crazy and monotone in the best way.

5:13Georgia should be on Gallery Girls in Another World. It really checks a lot of boxes. Yes.

5:21Ben Mandelker: I actually, when I saw the trailer, I loved the trailer. I was really, I was on board. And then the first episode was I thought a bit shaky. And when I say sizzle reel, for people who don't know, sizzle reel, a lot of times when companies are, like they want to pitch like, hey, this should be a reality show, they kind of put together like a 20 minute like sort of semi episode with like a lot of like introductions of like people and it has like a weird vibe and energy to it. It's choppy it has a weird flow. So that's what I felt about the first episode but I was like but I still like it like it took a while it was like a lot of setup and then I sort of you know they ended with that like the hand washing thing and I was like I think I may be hooked.

6:00Ben Mandelker: Right. I felt you know I felt something about that. Because also the first time I met Georgia I the first thing I asked her I was like did you wash her hands? Oh yeah. Did she? She said she has been doing it more on occasion. And now when she is in public restrooms, she makes sure to wash her hands in case people who watch the show are there. So Bravo's changing lives. Public shaming works once in a while. It really does forever. Yes. This is a great use case for it. Yes. For Charlie, probably about for Georgia. Yes. Yes. I, um, yeah, but I think the show's great. I, my note is, I think we actually need less of the parents.

6:35Ben Mandelker: I think the show is better when it's just focused on the kids. And I feel like Brooks is using the parents a lot as a crutch because he seems very overwhelmed in the main character moment. And I love the Marks family. They're very entertaining. But it seems he doesn't know how to fully get in the mix the way he wants to. So then he'll like film with the parents instead of like having a more dramatic sit down moment with someone. and I don't need Seth Marks to have like to go through every alphabet of the LGBTQ plus community with random kids he doesn't know yeah that was really cringy in a way that I didn't enjoy I don't mind that like I guess like you know we have like cameos from the parents that like once per season but like it's really been like so much Seth and someone made a very good point online that like during the Salt Lake City season it was He's like, anytime there was a scene with Seth, he's like, I gotta go.

7:32Ben Mandelker: I gotta go to work. I can't be here. I gotta leave. But somehow for this show, he's around nonstop. You're right. That is really, he never is leaving. And I feel Brooks actually doesn't, Brooks wants Meredith to film. I don't know if he is asking Seth to show up. Yeah, I feel like it's just, I wonder if maybe it just comes down to just too much Seth on this show. Too much Seth. Well, the golfing scene with Ava, Brooks, Damon, and Seth. I was like, what's happening here? yeah why is there it just it's just i think the issue why there's so much seth is that he feels very on it doesn't he's like trying to like cultivate some sort of persona i don't know he's trying to segue into motivational speaking or whatever but the vibe is not right it's not authentic it doesn't match anything else happening on the show because also because that's what i like to your point i'm like candy was in for a scene and like rehashing stuff with riley that's going on in the season so it seems to progress cam zolciak just eating cheese whiz for five minutes perfect fine perfect fine but um i don't know if they kept on lingering around it could be too much and to your point too set this guy wanted to like was saying like things about your daughter and you're having a sit down thing to him because you feel he doesn't have a dad in his life mind you charlie's dad seems perfectly fine yes exactly i'm totally team anwar like i'm like i get it he worked hard and his son is a fuck up and he knows he probably like was not there enough for his son and he fucked up a sudden he's trying to help and he he's tried to do everything he's trying to throw money at it he can't do it it's too late uh and you know he's just not like but charlie is ultimately the one who's fucked up and also to get it get it together all the crappens listeners right now retweet like give yourself a little pat on the back if your dad wasn't there enough as a kid and are you like charlie no so charlie there you go it gets to a thing where i feel like he's about to be 30.

9:24We got to let the, like, you know, you got to look inward just to be a better person at work.

9:29Ben Mandelker: I'm not saying that he, that Anwar was a good dad, but like, you're right. You're 30. It's time to start fixing this because you're too, you're too rich to not have this fixed by now. Get a psychiatrist. Get something. Get a, get a psychiatrist, a psychologist, a therapist, a life coach, a copy of the secret, just something. Artist way, please. Yes. Anything. All right, let's dive into this week's episode. So we're in the big, the cast trip. We're at the Jersey Shore, which is, by the way, also something that's really funny with this show, which is that what I think about this show is it feels like Bravo took two concepts that they were working on to mash them together.

10:08Ben Mandelker: Ooh. It kind of feels like Bravo had been like maybe toying with some sort of like wealthy kids of New York and then also kids of Real Housewives and like, oh, wait, we can actually get them all to work together as like one big show because I feel like there's like a little bit of a culture clash happening on this show right that that explains like why G is here yeah because G does not make sense no I'm sorry she does not make sense on this show this is a show about like kids in Manhattan being chic and like doing chic things and and like then there's Gia off in New Jersey an hour away and like all they do is they have to schlep out to Jersey every few episodes and have to hang out with Gia.

10:52With Gia. And because it's funny, when the show was first about to come out, I was like, how is Gia going to pretend to live in New York for this? Because that's what I thought she was going to be doing. No, she's

11:01Ben Mandelker: just at her pool. She just doesn't. She's just at her pool. She'll sometimes take an Uber. She won't even take an Uber. She drives, actually. I'm so impressed. And I'm like, I live in Jersey and take public transit to the city every day. Gia, you could do it if you want to. And it's just like, there's a big cultural divide there, too. I mean, there's a reason why there's a real housewives of New York and New Jersey. That's not really, like, it's two worlds. It is very two different worlds. And you could see that some of them, like, Amira, is it Amira or Amira? I think it's Amira, right? It's Amira, because I always, I said Amira when I was interviewing Ava and Brooks, and they didn't say anything, and then right when it wrapped, they were like, by the way, you said her name wrong the entire time.

11:41I was like, perfect.

11:43Ben Mandelker: Thanks, guys. Thank you so much. So, Amira. I didn't realize the question would become linked with trauma. Oh, exactly. Always is. And it goes back to Anwar. Yeah. Yes. Anwar. If only Anwar had been there longer for you, but Amira, Charlie, Ava, they seem like anytime they have to go to New Jersey, they're like, not about it. They're like, why are we not going to the Hamptons right now? Why, why do we have to go to the Jersey shore? And that's what I am a little bit as a Jersey boy. Who's been to the Hamptons and the Jersey shore all the time. jersey shore does beat the hamptons there does it really you're driving in the middle you're driving so far out to the hamptons to have no cell reception you're not even by the beach most of the time i mean maybe people with higher incomes than me are closer to the beach it's like a mix of like grass and that and a bowl of pasta is 48 dollars that is true yeah which is my dear friends neil and nate live in the hamptons and i always love when i get to go visit them because it's very posh out there and it's so lovely but it is a trek it is quite the trek yeah also neil is sure a trek i feel like it's equal track it's equal track well she went to ocean city which is like you're passing all the good places like they if gg if i was booking this we would have gone to asbury park which is like the gay fun town on the boardwalk which they could have done but they didn't do it so they added an extra hour to their commute and it just feels easier maybe because i'm jersey yeah okay well um either way you can see that amira and and charlie ava like they they are just like they're not they just don't want to go to jersey ever no because they are like this is repulsed they're repulsed they're repulsed they're repulsed both by it being jersey and by the fact that like you know uh gia is a reality star because they also have like a the snobbery they don't seem to realize they're actually on a reality show and so they have this snobbery about these reality star kids also like ava dash saying she works for her money i'm like wait what is happening here yeah i'm not sure about that well that kind of ties in and we'll get into at the end like the the the fight of who is privileged oh my goodness okay this is we have to i i'm i'm being a bad host i am not moving this long i am just i can't i just sometimes you know i just want I just want to gab.

14:03Ben Mandelker: I just want to gab, guys. Just turn this recap on, drive to the Jersey Shore, and by the time you get there, we'll be done. And I'll meet you. Yeah. But we are at the Jersey Shore. They've been fighting at dinner. They're at this casino. Ocean Club, yes. Ocean Club. Have you been to that hotel? I think that it's been on Bravo before. Yes, I have not been there, but it is the hotel that if a Bravo leopard is going to Atlantic City for an appearance, they are going there. okay well they um they're they're having a fight because ariana had said like charlie look at the camera for the selfie and then georgia was like oh my god like you're so fake because you don't like him but now all of a sudden you're invited to be in your selfie and then then she's like well why are you whispering across the table and then riley jumped in and gia's like riley why do you always have something to say and riley was like pause it was a fight that barely made sense it It really did not.

15:01And I just, the only saving grace was George's whisper shouting was hilarious.

15:06Ben Mandelker: Yes. But it made no sense. And also I was like, I was like, why is this even just eat appetizers? Just eat appetizers and watch the magician find a card. Yes, exactly. By the way, one thing that I've been surprised about, Ronnie and I both have been surprised that Riley has been really front and center on the show, but in all the publicity leading up to the show, you could barely find Riley at all. And it's funny too, because she, her press tour was done a week before the show came out and it was because she was going on like a pre-planned trip with her family and she was really quiet and like she was like oh it was a good time like so I was kind of like oh is Riley really going to be in it she's Ivory's storyline she is I that she was barely in the trailer yeah she was I was like okay they just threw her in because of candy I was like wow but but like she is actually completely very central to everything shows up yeah yeah she really shows up and then you have someone like shy who appears like once in a blue moon and they put him if you look at the poster he is at the front center of the poster and I'm like why is he I don't understand the marketing is very confusing to me I don't understand why some people have like such prominent positions in the materials because that's where I was like is he a friend is he like fully on the show because even himself he's like I have a day job guys I can't really do this he like works for an agent yeah probably works for the agent that packaged this show like I feel like Dylan was supposed to be like the friend like I feel like Dylan quit midway through he got fed up with Charlie and then they're like I guess let's put shy in there instead they're like he's cute too okay we'll try it you're like have you ever done OnlyFans do you want to yeah would you like to start an argument about privilege okay great

16:47Ben Mandelker: so the fight just continues from last week it doesn't really it's sort of like a retread and we kind of like have we see we see Brooks having a thought bubble where he sees Meredith and he's like, you know, he's like, just, she's like, disengage Brooks, disengage. And that's what he does. And then we suddenly sort of like transport to the next morning. And yes, that was a little confusing to me. Cause I was like, I had to rewind. I was like, did I miss a moment? And I'm like, Oh, we're getting the recounting the story. Yeah. Yeah. I thought that I was surprised that we didn't just start off in the morning times but that's fine i guess because they had said to be continuous they have to like honor the to be continuous they gave us like a few beats yeah a few beats and a few like brooks talking in vo versus on the show yeah there i i don't love when bravo shows rely too much on silly hijinks like that like little like chyrons or like voiceovers you know like that but because also i'm like i know that's not what brooks is really thinking now yeah yeah because i wasn't think that at all no i'm like just have him have a confessional about why he's not talking yeah precisely so the next morning um people are waking up the uh the seafood the remnants of the seafood boil i guess they just didn't throw them out they just like left them in that pot and then they and then they put the pot outside repulsive repulsive just about public service announcement throw away your your shellfish and also because like the smell of that why leaving it and also because I'm like, it's a rental house, guys.

18:21Don't be a dick.

18:23Ben Mandelker: Yeah, and then there's that too. So Amira and Brooks are talking and they're talking about sharks because Brooks has a shark tracker. This moment I was like, Ben, this is the moment I was like, what is happening? Is this sponsor? Because they didn't even say the app of the shark. I thought it was like a light sponsorship of this app. I thought it was going to be like when NBCU owned Priv and they would have like the priv squad come to every reality show and give them like a terrible makeover yes no i prefer that i prefer that to just like hey are you watching sharks right now i'm like do you guys want to rehash what happened last night no okay perfect yeah i really like it could have very well have been like some sort of like corporate synergy with all the jaws we were talking the other day about like there's all this like jaws hype because the 50th anniversary jaws like don't this make sense peacock is doing has a jaws app and no this was just some sort of third party shark app a shark name like gary yeah okay fine so then brooks is brooks text eva and he's you know like uh it was like oh so my fitting got pushed oh my god i'm still gonna try to make try try my best to make it but it's just like whatever she's one of those people that's like yeah we know her i was gonna say there are the people i and they think they're doing what is right in their mind but is the most annoying thing just say from the jump that you cannot go because this is worse this is worse than that in my opinion yeah yeah yeah the whole like oh i'm gonna try to make it you're not gonna try to make it you're not gonna drive all the way down to the jersey shore and then go all the way up to the hamptons it's never gonna happen and also like is she even more than hamptons she's not even gonna go to the hamptons i was getting i was getting more and more angry by the time the episode was done i was like i fucking hate ava no and it seems like the season finale is gonna be all about all eyes on her skipping that event or something like that.

20:15Yeah.

20:15Ben Mandelker: Yeah. Yeah. And also the fact that it was, I thought it was like a fitting for Dolce & Gabbana, but then Amira's like, no, it's like an event. It was just like a Hamptons day. Would the, yeah. Would the fitting be in the Hamptons or would it be in the city? That's what. Wouldn't they normally like do it in the city and then bust them all out to Hamptons? Yeah, because I'm like, who's getting fit in like an open space in the Hamptons in 98 degree weather? Yeah. Something does not add up at all. it's time for a commercial it's time for a crappin's commercial

20:52Ben Mandelker: so they're talking a little bit about like you know chloe had to go to a doctor's appointment and everything and we see that georgia is um inexplicably in um an enormous suite at the hotel yeah and she says that omar got it for her but i think it's like clear that like the hotel was like well like we'll comp you dinner and everything but we want to show off our rooms so you have to like shoot something in the room right that's genius yes there's no way that omar omar and george are not paying for that room i'm sorry they cannot afford that room he can afford one suit he can only afford one suit he is like in his he is in some like low rent glengarry glenn ross like white white boarded like bitcoin operation over there oh because it's so funny when georgia always makes fun of charlie doing crypto i'm like isn't that what your boyfriend does yeah and she like somehow brands it as like a weird like disruptor anti-capitalist um rebel rebellious thing i was like no this is the worst the worst of capitalism i was gonna say no baby we it's it's past the point of no return yeah yeah did you did you even see the headlines about like the uh do we find any do we find out why charlie was at the townhome townhome of the bitcoin no but i want to know situation i hope there's a reunion so we can find out about that because i would love to hear that yeah yeah if he comes on to your show please ask him i don't know if he's i don't know uh bravo's putting him on to do press but bravo's like yeah we we have enough on our hands with jacks i don't want to put charlie out there just that front but please promise that if he does come through your studio you will ask why were you at the scene of the crime yeah what were you doing there my love so um anyway george is there she's got this sweep because she just everyone was fighting and she just didn't want to go back to the house with anyone so she decided to stay at the hotel um because she's delicate like that and you know a chaotic little delicate girl and she had the worst the hangover of every dimension I mean because you only mainline red wine like you mainline bottom shelf red wine girl like that's going to give you like and that's because she's young but she has to know that's not going to help you out in the long run no it's not it definitely is not it also feels very like 2011 it's like very Cougar Town you know oh penny can they all just do that with the seafood boil yeah penny can oh throwback okay so

23:28Ben Mandelker: so um uh hudson is hudson and ariana are wondering whether or not georgia is going to come back and ariana's like i've replayed this conversation between me and georgia like quite a bit and maybe i came off as a mean girl i'm like i don't i am not detecting any mean girl in this no i just was like i think you were asking her i was like hudson was raving raising his voice at Georgia a little bit, which I would have been like, Ariana, tell him no. But Ariana was just like, what the fuck are you doing? Yeah, exactly. Ariana has to remember that she's the good Zolciak. She's the one that we root for out of that brood.

24:05She really is. I'm shocked by how much I love her.

24:08Ben Mandelker: She's doing great. You know, she was back in the OG, you know, in Atlanta. All the attention was on Brielle, and I was like, Ariana's the one to watch. And I got scared. I got scared that she wouldn't wind out, turn out well, but like she's great she really is so adapted and adult and mature and talk about charlie take notes on like not having your parents ramifications make you an asshole that is like the the perfect counter argument to any time charlie complains about his upbringing it's like you were not you were not raised by kim zolciak and kroy like and kroy and whatever other people came through that household okay big papa oh please yeah the auditor so everything everything so um uh now we see riley in bed so riley calls georgia and george is like oh my god i woke up no joke never had a worse headache in my entire life it's like someone took an axe and slashed it across my head.

25:11Ben Mandelker: Like the worst. So that girl that says this every single weekend. I know it was a few episodes ago. The same girl who says that is the same girl who brings her laptop out to text. Ma 'am, what? No. Also, how did they, I feel like I would not be allowed to bring a laptop into a club. Oh, that's true. She must just have connections. I mean, she's a party planner. Yeah. Party planet for everyone. Anna Delvey. Only list. No other parties left. I hope you get to go to one of George's parties. I hope that you get put on the list. Please. I'm not going to bowl, but I'll go. It'll be like Diplo at H &H Bagels.

25:58She's like, Diplo at Cat's Deli. Who would think of that? Yet no one.

26:04Ben Mandelker: For a reason. No one wants that. I don't want to party at Cass's Deli like that I'm not going to the orgasm chair for that I'm not going to have what she's having she is really obsessed with Harry Met Sally I didn't even put those two together that scene was at Cass's Deli I don't know how it's the one film she saw the one film she saw before like 2018 and it's going to be her film yes yeah it's like a cool retro thing it's like how gen z loves like kodak advantage cameras you know truly yes soon we're going to be doing like uh like it's going to be the printing press is going to be back george is going to have like a party where it's like you make a newspaper love guys if you want to get into this club you have to you have to make a you have to write a letter in cursive requesting attendance you have to restart the industrial revolution and then let set sail you have to have a bonnet and you need to have a spinning wheel no Georgia's apartment I know she has both already a bonnet a spinning wheel and Charlie Speakers uh huh 100 % Charlie Speakers so um uh yeah so Georgia's like yeah it's just last time it was so much I just had to remove myself it was like everything was happening at once and I was literally like fucking Omar's mute over there mr mute so she could burn their effortless drag got him mr mute that's omar which is funny because he's been so chatty all season he has been popping up saying like i almost love you right wasn't that a thing yeah when he said well let's talk about the elephant in the room and which was funny because there was no elephant in that room but he was like well i guess what we call our relationship it was like a very like love island was airing at the same time it was like it was not it was not competing and then she's like because she also the girl not me looking for an elephant right now like the way i know she does the robot in an uber like she just is always like all the time in her bonnet so so um yeah riley is basically like uh basically says that georgia has the backbone and then she's riley's also saying like wow it's weird because like all of a sudden everyone loves charlie and it's like literally like the twilight zone ever forgot that charlie said he would slap georgia if she was a guy like out of all the things that we were mad about with charlie like especially something as stupid as getting a table at a club like that comment's not okay charlie which is having he's really he's really you know really throwing himself into the villain edit i have to say oh it's almost it's like so flawlessly him i have to assume because who else would do this no human with a developed anything would be like oh this is perfect for me to say yeah he um you know he gave us some microaggression this season he's he's given us now this like uh threat of violence against a woman yeah against a woman general spoiledness not paying, not making his poor friends actually like, like put the bill for like thousands of dollars for things.

29:27The way they throw about money so casually on the show is that, that does send me into hives, but I guess that it's fine for them.

29:32Ben Mandelker: It is wild. Like I cannot even imagine at like 22 or 23 being like, okay, well whatever, we'll split the bottle thing. It'll be like 2000 per person. I literally could not even imagine that. I didn't know. I didn't know how to say 3 ,500 as a 22 year old. I didn't know that was a price. of anything. Bottle service was a very foreign concept to me. And when I finally did bottle service for the first time, I think it was like $150 or$200 per person. But it was definitely not like$2 ,000. And also it's like the biggest scam at all. Because I'm like, then they give you Tropicana orange juice next to it.

30:11And I'm like, who is this for? Oh, hey. This is what I'm spending money on.

30:14Ben Mandelker: Who wants a night of screwdrivers? It's basically what it is. Vodka tonics and screwdrivers. Enjoy everyone. Although one time I did get bottle service in Vegas at like, there's a club, this was like 2000 and this had to be 2008 or 2009. There's a club at the wind that had like a waterfall. It was like this big club with like a lake inside and we got bottle service and they put us like right center, like right by the edge by the pond and everyone kept coming over to us and like we were living the fantasy that that's electric it was exciting especially in like 2008 like i just i just felt like the coolest person in Vegas you were in that moment you were i was i was official i was i was the charlie i was the charlie of Vegas yeah it's a great moment so brooks meanwhile brooks is um he has his fly zapper uh it's like this electric tennis racket a thing uh but here's what's driving me nuts he's trying to hit these flies but he's swatting at them like he has a fly swatter but you have a zapper i feel like you don't hit the wall with the zapper right no because you just it's supposed to press and it hits it fries them because now you're frying the wall the security deposit is not coming back on this you're supposed to i think swat at the air and the fly goes through it and hits it right yeah yes i think so i also i'm like i don't know if i would purchase that because it just looks weird as hell.

31:45Ben Mandelker: I just don't feel like it's going to be effective. And I also feel like it's dangerous. I feel like I would zap myself, to be honest. I would 2 ,000%, yes.

31:55Ben Mandelker: Yeah, so that was a... We give failing marks on his fly-zapping performances. So Gia is announcing that they're... She's like, you know, the Jersey Shore, you know, you can do anything. You make it what you want it to be. You can go tubing. You can go do water sports. You can go crabbing. Amber's like, crabbing? What's crabbing? She's like, you know, you get crabs. I do love Gia. You can do anything here for activities. And that's stretching it. I'm like, I'm not going to lie. I might do crabbing. But I don't know if I want to do any of the other things that you mentioned. And also when they went on, I'm like, so you just went on like, not even like a fun boat.

32:41You were just like stuck on a tube together. and also catch me never at the thing that they did with the uh inflatables i mean yeah i i think

32:52Ben Mandelker: catch me never at that entire little uh activity park that they went to no oh my god yeah no i'm in my bougie beach era where i want to like i want to like have an umbrella and i want to have a bear for contest cookbook to leaf through yes you want to be relaxed because it's a beach yes yeah yeah i want to i want to do i like i like i like that kind of vibe um i'm not i don't need to go tubing at the beach god no with 15 people with 15 people also is do people crab at the jersey shore i did not think of the jersey shore as a destination for crabbing you literally can you can go you can go for like frito-lays that's usually in the water when you're swimming there i'm like you can crab for doritos like that's like yeah does gia know the difference between crabs and boots because she's like i just imagine with like a crab trap they like caught three crabs and she like brings up four boots or something she's like dinner tonight yeah it's just in the same pot from outside yeah so um riley is telling everyone that georgia's staying at a hotel and um she's gonna be meeting georgia at a cabana she's like does anyone want to come with me otherwise it's just gonna be me and georgia and everyone's like no yeah not a good sound we have uh free passes to some sort of generic activity park by the by the coast so bouncing around yeah we're gonna skip the cabana so uh then charlie comes downstairs and uh ariana they're just kind of like there's this moment where she says ariana's like i was going out to the hammock last night and i see riley and charlie eating cake And then Riley's like, oh, was that me?

34:34Ben Mandelker: Was that me eating the cake? I was so confused at that. I'm like, did she like astral project outside of her body to be like, that was me? I saw a presence eating the cake. I didn't realize it was actually me. No, truly. So they look at like a video of it and everything. It's like funny. And Riley's like, delete it. And, you know, Charlie's never going to delete anything that's incriminating on anyone else ever. No. So he's saying like, well, I know last night was pretty messy, but like, I was just kind of expecting to like gamble, but it was just me in the hot seat all night long. And so we see flashbacks to all that and, and everything.

35:14Ben Mandelker: And we also, there was a scene. Well, here's a, here's a criticism I have of the show. I feel like a lot of good stuff gets relegated to the flashbacks. And I feel like I would like to see less, less like wacky stuff with the parents and more of these flashbacks of their own scenes. not as much criticism in this episode because it was all the kids, no parents, but I'm just saying in general that there was a scene where Charlie and Hudson they had a confrontation yes, about Ariana and I was like, why was this summed up in a sentence when it probably went on for like 20 minutes yeah, because it was such a big thing, so Hudson's like so, by the way Riley told me how you think Ariana's hot, and Charlie's like, wait, Riley said that?

35:55Ben Mandelker: I'm like, well, I think she's attractive, I mean, she'd be a compliment didn't say it in any derogatory way anyway it's all good man it's all good like that's charlie's thing he talks a big game but then when confronted he folds immediately and then in the confessional i feel like i could take hudson in a fight you think he's been in a fight before have either of you yeah also you cannot take hudson i don't think hudson's like he's not like mr mma here but like also he has a heavy shaped dior satchel bag that could kill something yeah he has he has very dry hair and that could be very scratchy on your skin.

36:29It feels so dry. I know.

36:32Ben Mandelker: I'm still trying to figure out what his, whose hair, like whose hair, I feel like there's a celebrity and I'm trying to figure out what, who is his hair twin? Because it's out there. Oh, yes. Oh my God. Is it Grace Coddington from Vogue? Oh, wait. Does he have Grace Coddington hair? He has Grace Coddington hair. I feel that one. I feel that would make him, that's a compliment to him. He would, she's an icon. It's literally that. It literally is. Wow. Grace got in there. Wow. She's also 84. I cannot believe that. That's shocking. Wow. And a Taurus. Okay, go me. Yeah. Maybe she should be on this show.

37:18Ben Mandelker: Where's her? I would love. That's next gen. That's her thing. She's like, I am the next gen. Maybe she just shows up pretending like she's like Gen Z. She just has like a Gen Z outfit on. It's like younger. It's Sutton Foster and younger. Hi, guys. I bowled before. We're Diplo.

37:40Ben Mandelker: So anyway, they squash their beef or whatever. You know, it seems like everything is fine. But yeah, Charlie was like, yeah, he has to have some sort of ability to defend himself. He's walking around with that much jewelry. because I think that like all that Charlie really has is like this waspy sense of like old money tech like I'm not tacky they're tacky right which is so boring I'm like if you have money please show it off so I can look at it yeah exactly you're someone with no money I just like to see it yes yeah uh Brooks serves pancakes he's like does anyone want a pancake does anyone mind if they're like a little extra rare and Gia's like we do but it's your birthday I'm like the fuck is going on here i'm like it's very on trend i mean the pancakes on love island really broke the internet they really did and i mean brooks could have a little cameo on love island that is true and you know what an undercooked pancake played a major role on love island i mean she would love brooks maybe they can couple up together she can be in a molly with them huda and brooks that that That could be an interesting watch.

38:50And the boyfriend's name Cade or something? I don't really know.

38:55Ben Mandelker: Which one? Brooks' boyfriend? Oh, Cade, yeah. Cade. For sure. I've never met a Cade. I feel like Cade is a name that's only used for porn stars. Which, if so, compliments to all involved. Yes.

39:14Ben Mandelker: Commercials. Here comes one right now.

39:24Ben Mandelker: So Georgia's calling Omar and she's like, are you ever going to travel with me and my friends again? Oh my God. And he's like, yeah, but there's stuff you guys have to work out. She's like, yeah, I understand why you didn't say anything at dinner. Mr. Mute, did I tell you? I called you that. Anyway, I know like some people feel really strongly like your manager will be standing up for you. Like maybe I think that because I said that earlier. Hashtag Mr. Mute. we can't catch on but it's like well you know i can fight on my own so like i don't need you to speak for me i'm changing my story entirely right now she's like i think she's like fishing she's trying not to have a confrontation but she's fishing for him to be like i should have stood up for you though oh it's such a thing where because she was like i don't think this but everybody else does rightly because that's the only person she talks to about it um this what are your thoughts?

40:14Ben Mandelker: He's like, I don't know. I, if I do have some thoughts, I'll write them on the whiteboards that cover our office and I'll let you know. I also, I'm like, and also do you think him and Charlie are going to have a sit down confrontation girl? They are apparently based on the previews for next week. I'm like who and what? That's they're going to go into it. They're just crypto business. It'll be a crypto thing. He'll be like, look, whatever feelings you have about me, whiteboard it, just whiteboard it. You want a whiteboard right now? Or like they verse each other in Mario Kart. Like what is happening here?

40:44Ben Mandelker: That would actually be very fun. I would watch that. I would be totally down for that. I would get into fights with people if it meant that we would have to resolve by playing Mario Kart. That's actually true. You know what? It probably would be much more peaceful for everybody. And it will affect it. Yes. Yes. So meanwhile, Ava is back in New York. and she has a really interesting story to tell, which is that she saw a big cockroach and her maintenance man came in and was like, and she's like, I've never heard him say that. So it's safe to say she's not the Dolce & Gabbana fitting. She's boring us with dull anecdotes of her time in the city.

41:30Which is kind of the through line.

41:33Ben Mandelker: Through line from her. And also maybe taking over Slutty Vegan, One Chain. Have you ever been to Slutty Vegan? I do. It's really good. Is it? So that's when I saw it. I was like, okay, shout out to them. But it is very good, like, fast-ish vegan food. Okay. All right. We'll allow that. So now people are getting into cars, and they're going to be heading to their various activities. So Riley arrives at the hotel with Georgia, and um uh george riley's like so you've just been in this room this whole time she's like i've literally been like watching tiktoks on my phone it's like hilarious i'm like on spinning wheel tiktok have you ever been on that it's so good i also i also do i'm curious about loom tiktok too i love like riley wasn't paying attention to her earlier because she asked again where's omar that's true

42:33Ben Mandelker: so um georgia the producer is like where does omar's money come from and she's like you know i don't i don't know exactly where his money comes from i think he did like good crypto trades and investments in other crypto companies and i know i think he has some airbnb properties stuff like that i'm like he's going to jail right now and don't if he does your business with a bowling alley, you're getting indicted. Yeah, you're going down on the ship. Just know this right now. We all can see it. We've seen these movies before. Boiler Room, Wolf of Wall Street. Real Hospital of New Jersey.

43:12Ben Mandelker: We've walked down the street. Wall Street. We've walked down the street in New York. We know who's going to jail and who's not. If Anwar did anything shady, he's not going to jail. Oh, he's a smart boy. Yes. He's smart. He paid people off. Your boy Omar is jail. jailed up so Georgia says you know I see a softness in Riley and I can tell she has like a good heart and I'm always going to feel like a little weird in the bathroom when I see her because I don't wash my hands but I think we could have like a really really good friendship and like genuinely I think she's like a really sweet girl which is nice but it's kind of funny that like I don't see hardness in Riley and I think the fact that I think the fact that they say they see softness almost like a surprisingly enough is in and of itself kind of a microaggression.

44:04Oh for sure because like whenever Riley's in a scene she's just like silly and goofy.

44:10Ben Mandelker: Yeah. Riley is no more like over it quote unquote over it than Gia is. Like they actually have a very similar demeanor. No one's ever like oh I see a softness in Gia. There's actually someone really nice down inside there yeah and also because and unlike riley gia doesn't even like wait to hear anything before she starts shouting or like anything because i'm like gia how are you getting involved in every fight but you don't like know any single person yeah exactly you had to like she's i'm i'm just i'm so surprised that gia would act this way given that her mom is known for being so uh chill and thoughtful.

44:49Cool as a cucumber.

44:50Ben Mandelker: Cool as a cucumber. So they are, meanwhile, other people are like tubing and on a boat and Brooks is like, has anyone ever seen a shark here? And they're like, yeah, of course. He's like, oh my God. That's his most terrified voice. No, true. Yeah, that's when he really is getting in his dramatic moment. He's like, oh my God. I wonder if, would he scream if he saw a shark? like can he scream well we did see him kind of let out like a little gasp with the fly swatter because he was trying to swat a fly and he kind of like tripped him so i think that's what he would do okay there we go that is good now i think he'd say oh my god you're a shark gary he would be really bad in a horror movie oh my god it's a dead body but get him in sharknado absolutely 100 percent kim richards brooks marks sean scott yes let's just do i'm just assuming sean williams where is sean williams scott by the way ocean city we don't know he was he was like an a-list actor who just disappeared that is true was it like a rehab situation kids i'm like pick your poison we'll have to check in on him and chris klein sometime soon checking on our our studs from the year 1999 uh actually i once okay this is i off off topic i once went to a books like a book uh my friend had like a book signing or a thing she was reading from a book at a store and chris klein was there for some reason and he was sitting behind me and he spent the entire time talking to the person next to him about how he acts like how like his method and like how he approaches roles while i'm telling you while your friend was doing a book reading no no it was before she started reading oh oh my god i'm sorry sorry but the entire time i kept thinking like i am so privileged right now to be able to have this front row seat to chris klein talking about his acting methods that is beautiful just like presented without comment here's my story he was like he was just like i sometimes just like to really get into the role and really like to consider where they come from and think about the motivation.

47:10Ben Mandelker: And I was like, oh my God, thank you. Thank you, Los Angeles gods for placing this man right behind me. Your city pulls through when it does. Yes. It pulls through. LA strong.

47:23Ben Mandelker: LA really comes through when it needs to be, when it needs to come through, it does. So, um, so George and Riley are talking to, uh, they're, well, they, they've ordered like some frozen drinks and george is like i want to get i want to go with la mode also let's get some a la mode cocktail okay anyway my only concern did you notice yeah i did notice that and i was like what the fuck does that mean i was like okay here we are all right she always has a new word for everything yeah let's go la mode la mode so my she's saying my only concern is i love ariana and I respect her so much, which is her way of saying I don't respect her at all.

48:04Ben Mandelker: I just, I don't want to be fighting with her. Like, I don't want to, I don't want to fight with a scary girl from the South. That's, that's like unpleasant for me. She's like, I'm going to fight with people downtown. This is scary. And and she's like, what is, so like what's the sentiment from like Ariana and Hudson and Amir and all the, are they all just like talking about our huge feud and that big fight we had? And Riley's like, yeah, they haven't, no, they haven't really been saying anything today. No one really cares. No one knew you weren't there. Yeah, we all drove home, got to the house, partied at the house, went to sleep, woke up the next morning and realized you were not with us for any of that.

48:43Wow.

48:44Ben Mandelker: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Ariana, meanwhile, she's going through it because she's like, I was so fiery last night and I don't want people to ever feel attacked. And I feel like Georgia felt attacked for me last night. I'm like, you're thinking about this way too hard right now. Way too hard. I don't know if it was like anxiety or something, but yeah, it really got into her mind when I'm like, this is one of the, like, because we didn't see the rest of the dinner play out. But I'm like, you guys just said two sentences to each other. Exactly. But Amira uses this as a way to, like, soft launch her feud.

49:21Ben Mandelker: so she's like oh my god i think you were like a hundred percent valid in what you were saying and what you were feeling and how you were reacting to it and i feel like part of it was maybe influenced by what i told you earlier remember because what happened was i got my burgers delivered you guys remember when i got my burgers delivered yeah it was so she said them she yeah i got my red robin and then she said i guess the ozempics weren't off i mean that is the most classless thing to comments on what someone is eating that is like basic etiquette number one that is something you learn in third fucking grade i was like i don't know if i that retained to me but yes i'm like i don't know if that was like my number one etiquette lesson but she goes at the point she has a point uh obviously food sensitivities over there in that area so be careful ariana i mean uh uh georgia georgia but amyra is basically like yeah i'm i'm whatever you're saying ariana that was really nice whatever you were saying but i'm going to talk about my issues right now i'm gonna have a feud but i also think ariana's like that is some of the reason why yes yes i remember you guys having that fight go on go on but yeah she really did pass the baton yeah that's one of my favorite things that reality stars do is when they like to pretend like they're they're listening to you to vent but they're just waiting until they can actually surface their own issue and make it like the center of the scene and i mean we'll get into So Demira did it flawlessly later on.

50:47Ben Mandelker: Flawlessly. Actually, actually she did it so clunkily that it became flawless. That's the thing. It was so direct in such a way that it was, it was, it was such a, it was a stretch. She, she pulls it in in such a stretch, but like the stretch was so beautiful that it in and of itself was perfect. Yeah. So she's really on one. She's like really upset about the food thing. She really goes off and off about it. She's like, I mean, that's just something you don't say to anyone. Like, you don't even say that to your friends. I just like, grow up. I mean, she is honestly a little bit more upset about this than any of the microaggressions that happened earlier in the season.

51:24Ben Mandelker: I'll be honest. That is true. A very, yeah. And I don't know if it was a thing because I feel like there was a few episodes she wasn't really there. So I don't know if she was like, okay. Yeah. And then I guess she's like, she's like, what have I done this season? Here we go. Yeah, exactly. Um, but also like, I think when you're, when you're talking to a model and you, that is what they're eating. Good luck to you. I was going to say true. Cause I'm like, I think baseline is hungry. Yeah. And also red Robin isn't in the city. So I'll point to Jersey. Maybe she just was like, I, maybe she's a huge red Robin fan and doesn't get it there.

52:02And she's like, okay, I'm in a place of ordering area. And who does anyone blame her for being like, I'm good on the seafood boiled Gia Judas made.

52:12Ben Mandelker: actually i would trust that i feel like the judices have have cooking skills what i do here's what i what i took issue with last week that i mentioned and you know what i have to say i don't seem to remember a lot of people co-signing me and it has been noted it has been noted but i'm gonna say it again i can't wait i thought it was strange that amyra waited all the way until those clams were being poured on the table to announce i'm just gonna order something because i don't like seafood those clams have been boiling for that's that stock pot has been going for at least 30 minutes you've had a long time to call your uber eats i was confused about that too because i am someone because i was thinking in my head because i didn't know if amyra was a vegetarian or no she's not because she had a burger but i was like i can't have i can't have a fucking seafood boil i would have been ordering food the second i walked in and smelled the lobster and everything like that so it is a very weird timing of that and also if i'm not going to the grocery store yeah i there was something okay because remember she skipped the that's her there's something going to a grocery store she's like i hate grocery stores i hate going into them and um i think that there she has some foods it seems like there's some food sensitivity yeah it's a food trigger food trigger and i feel like and thank god because she has a man that stands by her.

53:29So we love Quiet Kevin, I think his name is. Well, it's Kevin, but quiet.

53:33Ben Mandelker: Not to be confused with Mr. Mute. Kevin's actually there in the house, right? Yes, he's fully in the middle. He's white. He's there. You don't really notice that he's there. He's the one finance guy, I think, who actually does finance and not crypto. Yeah, he does real finance. so um uh there some of them are talking and brooks is saying that he's he's like honestly i thought that when i was 25 i'd be like married and have like a kid and i just feel like i have so many visions for myself turning 25 and i don't know if i'm gonna be able to attain those things isn't this surprising would you ever thought that brooks wants a child at 25 was so shocked at that because i'm like i thought his plan was to like gallivant around the world and i'm like do you have a kid and i guess like because i didn't know seth and meredith had the kids like in late 20s and everything like that i'm like brooks what part of you right now screams like settling with a child yeah it's it's just very surprising i just thought he was a club kid you know because also i'm like next gen i'm like this is not really you're about you're you're headlining a show that's not really having kids mode and he's never and we've seen him in Salt Lake City a lot.

54:49He's never talked about, he's never looked paternal.

54:53Ben Mandelker: He's still often referred to as like a child. Like Meredith talks about him like he's a toddler. Like Ryan and I always joke that like Meredith is like, well, it's my toddler Brooks. Like don't be mean to him. He's two years old. 2000%. Like he can't, like he's flipping pancakes unwell. Like I don't know if diapers is there. Let's work on the pancakes first. Pancakes first. And then as Gia said, adopt or sperm yeah adopter sperm and he's like what and and charlie's like wait oh is the sperm thing like where you have like jizz in a cup and you mix it and choose a random one like because that's dead ass how they do it right you guys are laughing but that's how they do it you come and so you guys come in separate cups or like put your dicks in there your touch your lips the same but he's like really going to town on this he was that's marx discussion yeah like we're diving a a little too deep on gay men having babies yeah we may need him to to slow down on the seth marks parental sessions there but i did love too much off yeah i did love brooks having this conversation with gia gia's italian boyfriend from jersey and charlie yeah yeah exactly so now back at the uh the boat docks um riley and georgia join everyone and um this is the moment that was in the trailers Riley drops her phone and it bounces off an inflatable thing and into the water.

56:20Ben Mandelker: And it's... I would be devastated. Oh, I... The party would be over. It would be over. It's done. But the best part is they're all like, oh my God, wait, call the phone. Call the phone. Oh, yeah. It went to voicemail. Yeah, honey, you're a shark ape. it's in your shark belly it's in the shark's belly who is supposed to answer them as jonah going to answer the phone in the first belly this kid mind you just said he wanted to be a parent call a phone that's on under the sea yeah so he uh then i think um jordan riley is like i'll pay someone a thousand dollars that they'll go find it so of course charlie who has no money to his name because he's like it's all either gone up his nose or out somewhere.

57:09Ben Mandelker: He is he dives in. He's like, well, a thousand dollars. I'll take it. And of course, he can't find it. And then Georgia goes in. And you know that Georgia probably didn't shower for three days after being in that Jersey water. Three days. Generously. And also her arriving in a robe that she put back on after going to the hall topless. What? Yeah. Why was she still in the hotel's robe? I'm like, oh, Oh my God, everything she's doing, it's like random entrances and stuff like that. That part really threw me for a loop. And no one even commented on the robe. I was like, is she still wearing the hotel robe?

57:46I think it was just a lot of people sighing and eye rolling. And then she puts on Charlie's white t-shirt. And I'm like, that'll be see-through. Right.

57:55Ben Mandelker: And then she just jumps in. So, of course, they don't find the phone because it's the ocean. it's it's like it's the ocean and the water the water literally looks like the manzo's old like blk water like you cannot you're not going to see anything through it like this is where they get this is where they source it from i was gonna say that is just bottled up that yeah that it really is this is you know you still see that that that that blk water around and i'm like has that been there for over a decade like are they producing more it's been around yes you know that's around you know kyle cook's original company bird dogs or catbird or whatever it's called cat dogs that's around i would love if like you kyle cook is the inventor of the cartoon cat dog he's like no it's still kicking he's 75 yeah those residuals investing into lover boy yeah people don't realize i uh i came up with cat dog why could i say like that's kyle cook's dream because he could come up with a cat dog yes because he he does have cat dog energy he really does like he and amanda are kind of cat dog together wait now i'm like wait now i'm like cat dog is so cute wait next time you see them next time they're in the studio oh my god i'm gonna be like ben your friend ben in la he says you guys are spitting images of cat dog i don't know what that is dude isn't it fun to think that they're like shooting right now like summer house is in session right now i know and i want to know who the new people are that they're saying i want to know too they losing page is a real hard one that's gonna be a it's gonna be a pivot i don't really yeah it's gonna be a pivot you know what's so sad can i say something that makes me so sad i was going through dms last night and um for watch what crappens and i saw that we had a dm from a company back in april that was like hey just so you know we're loosely associated with the summer house finale and um we um we like we basically they're like the ones that provided carl with all those sandwiches remember when carl showed up the sandwiches they were like we provided sandwiches and if you're interested in trying the sandwiches we'll send you a sandwich platter oh i missed the chance to have the carl radke sandwich platter okay you did fuck up that's a big fuck up you guys have to be a little bit more on on top of the dms and you can't even you can't even respond to it anymore it says your chance to respond is over oh i didn't know i didn't know what internet played that way well no because it was it was like in the promotional i think it's like a because it was like a business to business thing or something so like it was omar to charlie okay business to business yes it was yeah it was b2b marketing yes i missed my chance at the carl radicke sandwich platter yeah it's really devastating it's as bad as losing your phone in the ocean do you have a second sandwich I would like that took me a moment there to understand what you were saying there and I get it and I now applaud that don't worry luckily I have another sandwich hook up oh what okay I'll just go to something about her so yeah Wait, so I was confused about this.

1:01:15Ben Mandelker: Did Riley just have a second phone on her? That's what I don't get. She did. And she was like, but it wasn't the phone with a good service. I'm like, do you have two different providers? And I'm like, so then if that's the case, do they have the same storage and everything like that? It made no sense. Because I'm like, I don't think one's a business phone because your business is DJing? Yeah, we can't even talk about that. I'm so disappointed in Riley for that. So is Candy. I'm exactly with Candy. Be a lawyer. I'm exactly with Candy on that. do anything honestly work at cats's deli during the diplo concert like just don't be a please don't be a dj don't be a dj no no no no no no it's just not it it's not it yeah so uh they're all laughing because she somehow has um this other phone hello there this is a two-part recap okay this is the end of part one so thank you so much for listening to this uh just come back a little later for part two.

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1:05:31Too many options, too many additives, too many compromises.

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1:06:11Ben Mandelker: Because chicken shouldn't be complicated.