#2938 Below Deck S12E08 Part 2: French Toasted

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2:48Ben Mandelker: check in the feed and be sure to subscribe so that way you always get your episodes but enough of that let's get right back into the episode so fraser's like well chef got fired because he didn't do his job and enough of this blame game it was old social media and then we see tweets coming up that are like oh yeah i love fraser but he's doing too much here the guest didn't complain the food was good if it's not broke don't fix it and another favorite was the one that said 100 percent oh i'm sorry go ahead no my favorite one was the one that said if you've got time to lean you got time to clean signed ronnie caram i was like wow congratulations ronnie got right in there um yeah so there's a bunch of tweets that pop up of people being like oh my god i can't believe you fired anthony fraser's such a dick so he's like i mean it just bothered me why get the finger pointed at me for everything that goes wrong i did not want him to go okay well you're lying now that's a lie we did watch the season sir and he's like and i wanted him to have a second chance or a film's talking to you know i mean next thing i know he's packing carrie didn't tell me he did that okay fraser okay you played a part in it but whether or not anthony deserved that i would rather fraser was just stuck with he didn't do a good job and he was fired and it's not my job to go save him i tried to help him he wouldn't listen and he got fired sorry at the end of the day you get no emotion for no emotion and he's not taking responsibility for not doing his job and for being fired but like if you can't see a false there's a really big red flag so a lot of like someone who's just spent a whole monologue avoiding their own red flags and faults okay so now they finish up at anchor and they're going back to the yacht and barbara's asking jess how she feels about solane and jess is like it's fine but i'm going to keep to myself a little bit more because you know you know i don't want to get hurt no no no so basically Jess is really upset that Selene, despite their earlier conversation, Jess is clearly still upset that Selene was kissing Kyle.

4:48Even though, I do

4:50Ben Mandelker: remember the scoreboard, Selene was kissing Kyle first. So if we're going to play that game, let's play the full game. Shall we not? So Barbara is like, she's like, I really like Jess, but I'm starting to see her as someone that I care about. And I think that there's something there. But Sosa was my friend. So no triangle. No, no, no. It's like, all of you guys need to just you guys all need to shut up and do your job I just don't care about your love rhombus that you've developed so now they're gossiping about Fraser's date and he's like well he's a great guy obviously and I get along with him but he's straight he's a straight boy and Barbara's like yes and straight people say they love you and then they shit in your face they just poop all of you it's so nice to see gay fellowship on this show because usually there's only one so if there's any so it's nice to see big gay people be able to talk and be like god fucking straight people they use us all the fucking time for their bullshit and then they just dump us like i didn't know it was that common i think it is i think it's very common or people experimenting or like whatever that's you know look i mean jojo c was with a guy again look at her oh god during gay pride month i mean look she may be bisexual coming out of straight during pride month is a choice.

6:09Wow. Yeah. Yeah. But there is good luck to her and her possible baby. Is she pregnant? My niece told me she thought she was pregnant.

6:15Ben Mandelker: She's pregnant full of sound because she does not speak quietly.

6:22The ultrasound shows an extremely tight ponytail that transcends all sexual preference.

6:30Ben Mandelker: God, I'm sure to see what shows up as a stew on this show at some point because I feel like that could reasonably happen. I'm not going to be I feel like it would not be out of the realm of possibilities that Bravo throws some sort of bullshit at us like celebrity celebrity below deck where all those dudes are like low level celebrities like Joe Chesino. It's like Natalie from Facts of Life. It could happen now and I'm actually kind of looking forward to it now that I actually say it. It doesn't sound like as bad of an idea as you would think except for the fact that they all may die. But other than that sounds great yeah otherwise fun well they can have chip chip and his cousin chip or whatever the guys are that we never see the officers we never see they can take care of larry gary are we supposed to really believe that solane is taking care of this boat i don't no one believes this so everyone's gone out and solane and or gone home and solane and jess are in the boat mess hall or whatever talking and she's like oh i think i have salami in my leg Like, oh, you know why I like you?

7:31I like you because it is so easy to speak to you like a friend. And that's why you are my best friend. You don't cheat me like children. And Jess is like, well, I like you because I think you're hot. And you have tits and an ass. And also you're bossy.

7:47Ben Mandelker: You say that tits? Ass and tits? Well, I think I just described Barbara. Now that I think about it. Oh, I think that is wrong woman. So they go to bed. Next day, waking up. but time to pack for the villa. So Rainbow is asking Jess about the threesome. She's like, how do you find? Hey, what are you thinking about this threesome, this Dillian-Solene threesome you find yourself in? Look at me relating to you. Isn't this fun? And Jess is like, honestly, you can do what she wants. I know that she likes me, and that's enough. I'm totally not insecure about it whatsoever. I'm not going to engage in any sort of bullshit to make her jealous.

8:22Ben Mandelker: Absolutely not. Yeah, and then we see Captain, while everybody's at the villa, arriving at the villa we see captain on one of those like wave lifter thing what are those things where you fly in the water he's like amazing nailed it 15 year old probably couldn't do this little loser adventure boards that's what i call them so um there's just more talk and um uh fraser and anthony are talking about a vape and uh anthony makes a comment like you don't love me anymore and I'm not happy about that. I'm not happy about you. And Fraser's like, that's your problem, sweetheart. He's like, I know you don't give a shit about me.

9:03Ben Mandelker: And he goes like, what's going on? And Fraser's like, alright, I don't know, but we have 11 minutes to get ready for Carnival. Because Anthony's also like, he's in his emotions and he's also drunk. So he's like that annoying emotional drunk for the rest of the episode. Yeah, and Fraser knows what's coming, so he's already being super bitchy. Like, that's your problem. Whatever. So now it's time for Carnival. and everybody's getting jock straps picked out. Yeah. Can I just say Carnival sounds horrifying. If anybody was like, hey, Ronnie, you want to go somewhere today? Pick out a jock strap. A lot of Carnival on Bravo lately.

9:37Ben Mandelker: We just got through Atlanta going to Carnival in Grenada. Now we're in St. Martin Carnival. You know, my brother, I think, is going to St. Martin this week or something like that, which is what an exciting real life tie into the show. Isn't it, everyone? Okay. Has he seen Flo? Has he seen Flo? from progressive flow on the plane to St. Martin. He's like, man, I just saw an amazing movie with real cat sounds. Did you stay for the post credit scene? Because I missed it. Okay, so they go party and Kyle is, you know, rainbows licking Damo's nipple trying to like be one of the crew, you know, and she makes out with Kyle and dances on Jess and she's having fun which is nice to see she's like this is amazing i'm having the best time i'm so happy so trying so hard it's like through the face of a nervous breakdown but she's like this is so fun i am absolutely not triggered by spending an extended amount of time on an island it's not bringing me back to any sort of childhood trauma

10:54Ben Mandelker: Kyle is just sort of looking around he's like I'm looking at some beautiful women walk I ain't fucking bothering to look what's going on behind me because you know Selena's like making out with who knows who I think Damo she's making out with Damo now Selena and Damo are making out now Kyle it's so funny because everyone's being slutty except for Kyle and Kyle's the biggest slut on this group in this group but But he's in love. He's in love. And that's why he can't do it. He's a one-woman man. Yeah, everybody's making out, which I think is what makes it less dramatic. You know? Like, if everybody's just making out, who cares?

11:28So, like, you can't hurt your feelings, like, if everybody's doing it, you know? If everybody's doing it, get with it. So, then we get Celine. What did you say? I'm sorry.

11:36Ben Mandelker: If everyone's doing it, get with it. Yeah. Everybody's doing it. So, Celine is talking about her relationship with Dylan. because Dylan changed me because I broke him. I broke him. I saw, well, I did see it. I didn't listen to it, but I saw that someone got Dylan on a podcast or something and was asking him questions about this. And Dylan just shows up in the interview shirtless. I mean, that guy's just such a douche. Who does that? He broke Dylan, but Dylan broke us because I swear to God, I was ready to hang it up after watching him on TV. I was like, this guy, I can't anymore. He's the worst.

12:12Ben Mandelker: He is terrible. He shows up shortlist to a podcast? Who does that? Just gross. Oh my God. I'm just thinking about all the cold cuts he's washed off at the time since he's been on TV. Sulfides. Sulfides, bro. So then Damo comes over to Kyle and he's like, oh, before anyone else tells you, I just kissed so-so. And he's like, I clocked that. I clocked that. Don't worry. Don't worry. I clocked it. I'm not an idiot, lad. I clocked it. And are you upset? No, no, no. If I was upset, I'd turned around and done something about it. But he also doesn't trust his ass anymore. He tells us. He's like, yeah, I saw that.

12:50Didn't love that. I'm not going to trust that guy anymore.

12:54Ben Mandelker: Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Well, we just finally had a reaction on this show from somebody. So then Demo goes up to Jess and he's like, well, it's so soon I just kissed. And Jess is like, oh, well, Barbara and I are going to kiss. She's like, I've decided. That's fine. Because Barbara and I are totally going to kiss. We like each other now. Barbara's like, no, excuse me. No, no, no, no. She's like, yeah, yeah, yeah. I was just batted. I was just batted. I was just batted or whatever. Barbara's like, uh-uh, no, we're not going to kiss. Yeah, she's like, oh, yeah. She goes, oh, my God, I was just batted.

13:26And Barbara's like, no, no, she's with my best friend. So don't be mad at me. Don't be mad at me. And so Barbara's like, oh, God, Jess is mad at me now. Why? Why are you mad at her, Jess? She's like, I tried to kiss her and she wouldn't kiss me back. So, third fall.

13:43Ben Mandelker: Barbara's like, well, I mean, if she wasn't my best friend, I would kiss you, but she's my best friend, so I cannot. I'm like, I guarantee you that Selene, if it were turned around, Selene would not give a shit. So go make out with Jess. Go have fun. So then, but then Jess and Barbara do start to kiss. And then Fraser's like, there's so much going on. It's sensory overload. And since I know the audience is absolutely obsessed with everything that's happening, let me break it down for you. First, I kissed Demo in the hot tub. Then Selene kissed Kyle. And they were a thing for a moment. And then Jess kissed Selene.

14:16Ben Mandelker: And then Selene and Kyle have been secretly kissing. And then Rainbow had a panic attack and she was crying. And she kissed her vacuum cleaner. Classic love triangle. And then Demo kissed Selene. And now Jess kissed Barbara. Things are getting really messy. I'm like, if you have to sell us this in the middle of the most slutty moment of the season, it's not working. I'm sorry. I was going to tell you that. So then we go to Jess and she's like, oh, I'm still feeling weird about Damon Sosa kissing. Maybe I am jealous. Oh, no. But I think, you know, I don't like to talk about my feelings. Guess who I get it from?

14:51Cue the Instagrams. It's from my father. He doesn't show his emotions. I was like, oh, for fuck's sake. Is any parent going to win in this one? Not a one. You all suck, parents. I hope you're sitting there in your car right now realizing that even if you don't suck now, one day in someone's story, you are the villain. Okay?

15:12Ben Mandelker: Yeah. My parents are very Afrikaans. They don't feel it. They don't feel emotions. So then Rainbow goes up to Anthony, and she's like, Chef, what's going on with you in a phrase? I definitely didn't just sell you out. And she's like, well, I don't know if he's really honest with me. You know, my weakness is I trust people so much. My other weakness, I am not a very good chef. And that was the story of my life, trusting people and not understanding how to cook hot dogs. And also being very upset, cooking hot dogs alone. I do not like to cook hot dogs alone. And sometimes I just let people, you know, fuck, like, fuck you, mister.

15:44Ben Mandelker: You know, like I let people do that. I have three main problems in my life. One, trusting people. Two, tiny pants. Three, very large hats. I do not trust people, which is why I keep my enemies close. I keep my friends close. My enemies closer. And my eyebrows are very, very close. That's why they're so thin. Macro blade. Macro blade. So he's talking about how when he left St. David after getting fired, I was not editing inside and probably outside. Quiet every day. Stay gone and depressed. And Bobby is in my head, she told me. And I don't know what to do. I don't know what to say. I just want to cry.

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19:36No, Solaine is my friend. So I'm not going to like Jess. So Demo is like, well, she shouldn't be concerned about Solaine's feelings. I mean, she's thinking how should all, how would, Solaine's not thinking about anyone else's. So go for it, basically. So Anthony is now cooking and he had this big plan of like, we're all going to make this family dinner. We all make something we do together. And now he's the only one in the kitchen cooking. And now he's wasted and he's spiraling out over his own issues. So now he just starts screaming. He's like, where is everybody? What is this, like restaurant or what?

20:10What is this, like restaurant? Am I going to get fired from here too? Will I spend day in bed crying? Will I make cry in bed?

20:17Ben Mandelker: Oh, I just have to make hot dog all by myself. Okay, that's fine. You know, sometimes as a chef, it's very hard because you don't really feel like you're part of the crew and I have this feeling from last season like I was alone and nobody helped me. And it's a lot of emotion from last season between me and Fraser. And so I have all this anger that I should talk about and the fact that I keep it inside me growing, growing, growing. At one point, it is going to explode like hot dog left in the microwave. But this time, hot dog is on grill. So Hugo has heard all this. So he goes to Fraser and he's like, Oh, Fraser, chef just went throwing his toys out of the pram.

20:50I mean, I came up to him and he said no one was offering to help him. I mean, just so you know, he seems a bit off. I gave him a pamphlet, but... I do feel a little bit.

21:00Ben Mandelker: I do feel a little bit bad for Anthony because it's like, okay we're all gonna like make dinner together and then they just like all go out and hang out and look at the sunset while he's like oh in the corner just turning hot dogs he's like hello he should never have volunteered to cook for everyone that's his mistake you should be like yeah i'll be like guys who's making what tonight something like that but just yeah no one's gonna follow you i've definitely been in that position though i was actually very recently that position where it's like i was like okay i'm gonna i'm gonna grill these up for everyone and then i grilled and everyone just like stayed inside and you're just like alone at the party just grilling and you're like okay no one wants to be out here with me but you're like but i did volunteer for this i mean what like i created i created my own disaster here but like at the same time you're like doesn't anyone want to spend time with me alone with my hot dog just like always uh so damo tries to talk anthony down from the ledge and he's like do you know the saying don't throw the baby out with the bathwater.

21:59And he's like, No, why would you throw a baby? Don't throw a baby. Do not throw a baby. You don't need to throw a baby. Why are you throwing a baby?

22:08Ben Mandelker: I don't know about the bathwater. So Fraser is like, Well, he's so upset. He's like something is triggered, you know? Like, what's going on? And Rainbow's like, Well, he's been talking about last season to me for the last two days straight. He will not shut up. Especially when I go up to him and say, Can you tell me more about what happened last season? He will not stop talking about it. So Fraser's like, well guess what I'm not living in last season because I cannot do that even though I'm always saying how last season I won't repeat those mistakes and and if he talks to me about it one more time I will have a problem so then so he goes to check on Anthony and he's like oh is this exploded because Hugo is making food no one really cares about the food no one cares about it I throw my hat I throw my hat and Fraser is like okay but is there more going on And he's like, yes, I forgive, but I don't forget baby being thrown.

23:01Baby thrown in baths. Why? Why do you do this?

23:05Ben Mandelker: What do you not forget? Is it cleaning up? Because you definitely do forget about doing that often. I'm using your galley. And it's like, well, people told me all day that if you're fired, it's because of Pfizer. And Pfizer's like, I will not do this. That will not. That's not my problem. I didn't get you fucking fired. but I merely recommended it. He's like, look at Bobby. Bobby's saying. He's like, I don't care what she's saying. I don't get you fired. It wasn't working and you laughed. So Fraser's not having it. And he's like, forget it. And he goes, you forget that or you forget this. You forget this, buddy.

23:42Ben Mandelker: Take a good look. And tell me if you're ready to let go of this. He's like, I know, I know. He's like, you're fucking here because I brought you back to ridicule you all over again. I know. because I wanted you back. I did not get you fucking fired. I merely said, this is a terrible chef and everyone's complaining about him. And in case we didn't know this, Captain, we probably shouldn't have him on board. But I was not the one who said you're fired. Please don't forget that. I know, I know. But Barbie, it's like what she said. Like, she always told me you're fired because of Fraser. And like I said, no, he's like my best friend.

24:15If you mention Barbie one more time, you're getting five-year-old Fraser. Zero conversation. Do you understand me?

24:23Ben Mandelker: Do you understand? Yes, but only for one year. And then you're talking again after one year. Fine. Two-year-old Fraser. Four years of silence. So people are kind of laughing because they're fighting inside. And Fraser's like, Barbie said that I was the sole purpose behind him getting fired. No, she didn't say you were the sole purpose. See, you're twisting things to make yourself correct. Because if you say Barbie said you were the sole purpose and you can say that was a lie. No, she didn't say that. She said you're a reason that he got fired. And you were. Yeah. I mean, ultimately, Fraser's like, look, I love you.

24:55Ben Mandelker: Stop. Stop. You're so insecure. I got you. And then they hug and everything is fine. And Fraser is like, yeah, it's like this is all a lie. OK, so they come back to dinner and everything is fine. Everything is settled. They hyped up this confrontation for five or six episodes. Like, here comes the big explosion as basically Anthony be like, no, but I don't know because Bobby says that you got me fired. but I don't even know anymore because there's bathwater that I threw out apparently. Fierce is like, no, I never said that. I got you. Okay. I was like, oh, so it's solved. The end. The end. So now we go to dinner and they're like, let's play Rose and Thorn.

25:35This is Bravo. Let's do, you know, what's your best part and your worst part of the season. So Celine goes first and she's like, well, the worst was when I finished work and she asked me to wash all the fucking toilets at one o 'clock in the morning and she told me, Celine, you finish, you go to bed. and i thought thank you goodbye and rainbow goes um i never said that though so i mean i said check and then go to bed i never said go to bed why are you i speak yeah and then okay i speak yeah i

26:04Ben Mandelker: speak thank you okay i speak thank you voila okay so she said maybe before you go to sleep you're going to go to the day heads and do the toilet and was it like wipe everyone toilet and i was like oh but you told me i can finish okay i speak okay thank you voila don't lie don't lie about it you You call me a liar? You call me a liar? You're lying. You're lying. I'm lying. You're lying. Remember? No, I'm not a liar. No, I'm not a liar. I'm a liar. I don't find it very funny. Well, I don't care. Me, I think it's funny. And I'm not perfect, but liar never. Never liar. And he goes like, oh, maybe it's just a miscommunication.

26:41You know, you can only move ahead by looking behind. That's not true. Who told you that? That's the dumbest fucking saying I've ever heard. You don't have to look behind you to move forward. You just move forward, sir.

26:52Ben Mandelker: Not everything is driving through that fucking small bridge in St. Martin, okay? Sometimes we can just look ahead. Please don't be an Uber driver or something where you're in charge of transportation. So Rainbow's face, her face is all contorted because she's about to cry. She's about to burst into tears. She's like, oh, I'm going to go. So she gets up and they're like, Rainbow. She's like, no, no, I just have to go to the bathroom, guys. I was like, I'm totally fine. I just have to go to the bathroom. I just have to go to the bathroom. Don't mind me. So she goes off and then she's like, I don't need turmoil.

27:26Ben Mandelker: I really, I just, I try to avoid it. But like, I feel like the other girls, I take some kind of like weird pleasure out of making me other girls feel this way. If I didn't like have deep childhood emotional trauma, like it probably wouldn't even care. But I feel like I just grew up in a household where feelings were like, not like a thing. It was almost like just as Afrikaans household, but it was like Dutch, which is sort of the same. I mean, I can't wake up in the morning. even today i call my mom i tell her like hey i'm having a really bad day i have so much anxiety i like i can't breathe i'm like really upset and then my mom will look at me and be like what am i supposed to do about it and then she gives me a stroopwafel it's so awkward so yeah like the hurt comes from my mom i was like wow you're the fifth person to blame your mother today also your mom's probably sick of you calling every day crying about some bullshit that somebody doesn't like you at work because you're being an asshole to them i'm sorry but like at some point you know it's you okay i'm i already feel for your mother i guess that's support that's what happens when you just stay old and recap things you start being on the other person's side because i think like 10 years ago i would have been on the completely different side and now i'm like team your mom shut the fuck up i can't even believe your mom hasn't blocked your number yet because you know this girl calls every fucking day with something that she's upset about and triggered it i know we are the same podcast that is um like brazenly pro anwar on next gen new york city but yeah give anmar a spin-off yes apparently you're stupid sir rainbow comes back she's like i'm totally fine guys i just have to say like a just like a diarrhea or something like okay well glad you're back i was close to coming over there she's like no i just have to pee.

29:00Ben Mandelker: It's like totally fine. Like I pee. I mean, sometimes I pee through my eyes. It looks like tears, but it's really pee. Why are you guys so disturbed? It's because of trauma. It's like I pee. It's IP. It's because of childhood trauma. It's my mom's fault. He goes like, well, I think that's the most difficult part of the job because you're away from your family. I'm like, have you listened to what everyone's saying? I think that's why they're in the industry is to get away from their family. Good point. Everybody's here to escape their fucking parents. And he's like, And you deal with people that are different.

29:28Man, they have different perspectives. And you have to make sense of how to live with them, how to deal with them. And that's why we get paid what we do. Because we've got to figure out how to live together and make sense of it all. Shut up. Who brought this fucking guy? Come on to this guy.

29:47Ben Mandelker: So now they clean up and Barbara and Jess text about their kiss. And whatever they text. and then rainbow is like pulls the lane for a chat and if i pull you for a chat you really might type on paper so rainbow's like uh i'm just like sad that you feel like what you said happened because i literally asked you that evening i was like hey just check the day heads then go to bed that's all i said by the way what we did not discuss is that the flashback show that she said guess what you're done you are free you can go to bed it's all over no more work for you And then it's like five minutes later, you know what?

30:26Ben Mandelker: I forgot. Can you actually wash all the bathrooms? Thanks. Sweet Selene. That's the most shocking thing to me about this season is that Selene is not as terrible as you would think. Like, I thought she was just going to be a fucking nightmare. And she's actually at least trying. You know, I mean, I can see the complaints about her and stuff. I don't think that they're wrong, but she keeps getting vindicated. it's kind of funny well she's like yeah she's like lazy but she's right about certain things and like really what rainbow should have said was you're right that was shitty of me i just had totally forgotten i felt so bad that i told you to go to sleep and then i made you clean those bathrooms but like yeah sorry about that but they had to be done just this is one of the people she was like can we have a chat i'm so sorry that you actually think that that's what happened crazy i'm so sorry that the neurons in your brain have led you to think that this was your reality when it wasn't yeah you crazy and selene's like oh you'll change story i don't want to make big story about that okay no big story about it she's like but i'm really trying to be super forgiving with you like i'll give you 10 minutes here extra sleep at night and you know you know you're yawning I mean, it's a big deal.

31:46It's a big deal. I never asked you for the extra sleep. Like Rainbow needs permission to be 10 minutes late to work. Rainbow's going to be 10 minutes late to work, whether or not you tell her she can or not. She's going to be drinking wine in the fucking butler pantry all she can. And she's like, but I let you do that, you know? And, you know, I try and I'm trying to be as nice as possible. And here you are yawning at me, you know? And I just, I feel like it's not appreciated. It's not appreciated.

32:12Ben Mandelker: And Selene's like, oh, you know, your attitude. you're like, oh, I gave you 10. I'm so nice to you. I give you time off. Like, oh, so be grateful about it. Which is funny. It's like, you actually should be because that's your superior. She's like, see, you're speaking to me like that. You know, you think I don't care about job working? However, Solaine does, I think, have some emotional maturity here in the sense that she picks up on the fact that, like, actually, Rainbow is not doing this to be, like, considerate, like, oh, the person, the third steward, the fourth steward is working really hard.

32:43Ben Mandelker: I should give her a little bit more time off to rest. Rainbow's doing it to be like, I'm doing this that way you will like me. Do you like me now? I did all the things that you should like me. And so, Selena's picking up on that. She's like, you didn't do it because I needed it. You did it so purely so that way you, you can act like you're not the bad guy. And you can say, I gave you an exit to me and I did this. You should be grateful. Cause it's not that what Rainbow is saying is wrong. Really? I mean, Selene needs a lot of direction, but it's just how she says it, you know, Her tone is just wrong.

33:16Selene's like, oh, this attitude. I see you speaking to me like that. You think I don't care about working. I don't care about my work. I don't like my job. It's what you think, and I don't really care, period, at the end. I did it. Even if I'm not very happy, I always did it. I always did my job.

33:32Ben Mandelker: That's where Selene is wrong. That's where Selene does not do her job very well, necessarily. Last week, there was a whole thing where she was like, well i don't have to like make this look that nice because the guest won't even care and rainbow's like uh you should as like a pride in like your job and she's like whatever and now she's acting like oh like you're saying that i don't even care about my job i'm like you literally last week were like how can that's true but wasn't there also a scene this season where she was like and this was with barbara so it's not any gotcha for rainbow but where she was arguing with barbara And she's like, but am I supposed to iron the sheet?

34:08And she's like, do you think it needs to be ironed? It doesn't look like it needs to be ironed. But you tell me to iron, so I need to iron it. And she's like, no, you do whatever you think. If you think it needs to be ironed, you think it needs to be ironed. And she's like, okay, but you tell me one minute I have to iron it, and the next minute I don't have to iron it, so you tell me. And she's like, you know, there was that whole argument where Barbara's like, use your fucking face, use your eyes, and if it doesn't look like it needs it. So I think in that scene last week, I took it as Rainbow taking that and being like, oh, I don't think we need to do this one.

34:38And her being like, yes, we do. We do it every time. And her being like, well, what the fuck? You ladies are telling me something different every time. But I don't know why I stand there for Rainbow because I would probably have a nervous breakdown having to work with Selene, yeah.

34:50Ben Mandelker: I mean, that could be true. That could be true. But I think just based on the surface of what that interaction was, it's like Selene would seem like she was trying to cut corners. I mean, Selene does seem like she's a bit lazy. But where Barbara was so good with Selene. Why do I stick up for Selene? I just like her. She makes me laugh. Because you don't know it's okay because you don't like rainbow. So, you know, the enemy of your enemy is your friend. But I think that Barbara knows exactly how to handle Celine, which is like, I'm not going to try to be your friend. If you're going to like, you can try to start whatever you want with me.

35:18Ben Mandelker: And I'm going to tell you just do your job. And just do your job. I don't care if it needs to be ironed and iron it. Like, don't bother me that I've got stuff to do. Whereas rainbow is like, well, I don't know. I mean, I mean, you should just, I mean, iron it. Remember how I told you you should iron it. That's how you should iron it. She's just sort of like condescending. whereas Barbara's like, I'm not going to deal with your bullshit. Do your job. Barbara's not concerned about looking like a victim. You know what I mean? I think the motivations are different. I think Rainbow is just, everything that comes out of Rainbow's mouth is about being a victim in some way.

35:48All of her backstory is about how she's victimized. All of her time off is about how she's so exhausted she's the only one that works. Everything that comes out of her mouth is that she's a victim of some situation where Barbara's just like, fuck it, do your fucking job, you stupid idiot. And then I think Selene respects that. because she's working with someone who's not, I don't know.

36:08Ben Mandelker: It's actually really annoying because I was really looking forward to Barbara and Selene having bickering the whole season. And then they stopped because Selene respect Barbara, Barbara earned respect. And now they love each other. It's nice. It's been a while, I think, since we've had like a gang up on the chief stew. Those are always fun. So it's nice to see. It's a nice trope coming back. So it's the next morning. People wake up. Oh, no, we haven't finished the scene. So basically Rainbow just stops fighting. She goes, okay, yeah, okay, whatever. And she gets up and she walks off and she's like, oh, yeah, you lazy want to be famous only to be here on TV, dumb bitch.

36:47Can't even do the fucking job.

36:50Ben Mandelker: I wish she had said that to Solane's face. Yeah, me too. That would have been great. That's what you should say. And like, what does Solane say to that? No, voila. Okay, so now's the next morning. And they're going to be going to a beach club. And so Fraser is telling Barbara that Jess has a crush on you. And Barbara's like, it's not true. She's like, no. She said she wanted to kiss you to me. And then her and Selene thing isn't going anywhere. And if it's going to go somewhere, the only way it's going to go somewhere is if she kisses you to make Selene jealous. So she wants to kiss you. She's like, no.

37:27Ben Mandelker: But so-so likes her. She's like, no. Well, I'm still in love with Demo. But that's not going anywhere either. remember America so here's what happened okay so first demo and I we went on a date and then we also kissed and then also like cut to the next scene yeah so then we go to Jess and Rainbow talking about Jess's relationship with so-so and she's like well you know like when I saw her kiss demo I thought maybe I like her but I don't know you know maybe I can't even speak with Barbara like I can't have a normal conversation every time I speak like she avoids me and Fraser's like no I talk to her.

38:02Go work it. Go talk to her. Lesbians forever. Go form a softball team together. Whatever stereotype you need. Just go do it. Live free. Live happy. Get a mobile home. I don't care what it is. Just be happy, my little dumpling.

38:17Ben Mandelker: And Jess is like, no, I like her if I try to kiss her. And she's like, no, no, no. And he's like, oh, no, but I'd be the same. But if you go up to her and say, hey, I feel like there's something kind of going on. Is there or not? Tell me so I know where to go from here and then it's done don't worry it'll be fun it'll be perfect nothing bad will ever happen so jess goes up to barbara and she's like well i feel like obviously sirs and i have had a thing going on but i want to know do we have a thing going on real smooth jess real smooth but i like that i like just some bluntness because it's so rare i think in real life and on these shows and barbara's just like listen i like you but i'm not going to kiss you just because i have a feeling you're doing this because of solane and you're trying to make her jealous basically and so she's like but i'm not even though i just kind of said that that is what i was doing she's like well but we kiss and then like i'm going to my cabin then you sleep with so so so i mean come on and she's like okay well that's true but i'm gonna move out of my room tonight and there's nobody else i want to kiss who's within two feet of me so let's kiss this is this is the biggest stream of bullshit She's like, yeah, there's no one else I want to kiss.

39:28Ben Mandelker: I just want to kiss you all of a sudden out of nowhere. And when we kissed, it was different because you were not so-so. So it was technically different. And I know we speak about this, the straight girl stuff and whatever. And for me, I think kissing a girl who's also interested in girls makes it a bit more real. So I think we should kiss. And therefore, in conclusion, let's kiss. Papa's like, fine. They make out. They make out. That's the big ending. And at the end, oh, I didn't realize that was the end of the episode. Yeah, we did it. We did it. It just ended. It ended just the same way. All right, everybody.

40:00Someone got some Poussey Say. All right, everybody. We sure love you guys. I will see some of you tonight over at Amazon Live and everybody else later on for some McBee Dynasty. I'm kind. Talk to you soon.

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