#2961 RHOM S7E9 Part 2: Preppy Le Pieu

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3:14Ben Mandelker: This is part two of the recap. If you missed part one, go check out your podcast feed. It's right there. and without further ado let's get right back into the recap so now we go to marisol's home it's time for preppy party prep seeing this wordplay and um she's setting everything up it looks all nice and she's like larsa i put her hey hey hey friend hey friend who's helping me set this up i put larsa next to her good friend and i put lisa next to you because she's canadian and then like you guys can chit chat and i put this girl here and that girl here and all there and Jennifer's her friend and they're just setting up stuff.

3:50Ben Mandelker: And Marisol tells us that she invited Adriana today because Julia really wants Adriana to come to Spain. And since Marisol has decided that she loves Julia this season, she's going to go along with it because she has to because she's only a friend of. And she's just hoping that Ketamine Adriana shows up, not Drunk Yacht Adriana.

4:10Ronnie Karam: Yeah. So then we go to Alexia coming and the dogs are barking like crazy and jumping all over her. and stuff and she goes into the kitchen and whips open the curtain to present herself but then it falls off because it's on a pressure rod she's like oh my god why you do that to me come on here lady i'm trying to hide the butler's pantry all right yeah marisol has put up this little curtain

4:34Ben Mandelker: that she got like like like a two dollar curtain because she's it's the catering area so she wants to mask the the catering so that way it looks fancier in there which i just think is so funny because she basically lives in a cottage, a very nice cottage, but a cottage nonetheless. Yeah. So they're just continue to set up and everything. And Marisol is going to like make her a cocktail and everything. And Alexia's like, can we talk about our outfits? I can be preppy too. Look, look, look, I'm like very preppy. They call me the preppy star, star of preppiness. Like I look like the biggest preppy star of all the time.

5:06Ben Mandelker: And Marisol tells us that like her dad was actually from Connecticut. And which I feel like we knew that, but I never really retained it. and that she went to boarding school in Palm Beach. So, like, she has preppiness in her DNA, allegedly.

5:22Ronnie Karam: Yeah, I was like, he was very waspy. He was a sailor, you know? So I'm going to celebrate the white side of me today. And I was like, what a difference four years makes, you know? So Alexia is like, yeah, you know, I feel like preppy in Miami is not a thing. And she's like, well, I had Kiki here, and she said something weird to me. You know what she said? Let's see it in a flashback. So we see Kiki. She's like, I had a conversation with Gertie. She said, you guys feel like a cult. She goes, you know, I don't like that. I don't like it. What do you mean a cult? She goes, I don't know. What is a cult?

5:59Ben Mandelker: You know, that denotes that we're sinister. Could you believe it? You know what? You know, I don't like that. I don't like that. I find that offensive. Shaking it very fast. No, no, no. Don't like it. I don't like it. Sinister?

6:11Ronnie Karam: I don't like that she called it sinister. She called it sinister? Really? That's the kind of dog, right? I don't like that. I don't like that.

6:18Ben Mandelker: So, Grudy arrives and she's with a guy who has a large appliance box and Marisol is like, what did you bring? Oh, I brought you your wedding gift. Okay. It's a bar. It's an actual entire giant bar and you can make drinks with it because I know that you don't actually have one here. You just rent it out for the show. Oh my God. I saw that on Instagram and I wanted it. Thank you. What is it? It's called a cocktail shaker. Oh. is$15. It just has a very big box.

6:50Ronnie Karam: Mary's like, wow, Gertie's a fashion catastrophe. Except your bar. Jesus Christ. This is a woman? God. And she's like, but she did bring me a cocktail maker machine. I heard that Lisa gave it to Gertie and Gertie were gifted it to me. That's my dream. Hello. Me too. That's a good gift. I will take it all. that's a gift you could have like resold that shit you know yeah and she didn't she gave it to you so be grateful so i heard that at lunch with julia we decided lunch with julia we decided to make a trip for you alexia and go to your favorite place spain and gertie's like oh i studied in spain i'm obsessed with spain you know i love spain well i'm here to tell you you might not be invited so hold on there's got to be some tension in the room alexia nod and blinks okay she's already nodding and blinking gray.

7:45Ronnie Karam: Do you feel tense? Yes, I'm going to talk just like this. I don't want to be too loud. I don't want to be too annoying to you. I'm going to talk like this right now. Just shake my head a little bit.

7:55Ben Mandelker: Now, before we proceed on with the rest of the scene, Alexi and I are just going to put on some sneakers and some sweatpants, and we're just going to get ready for a comet that's going to take us to our planet. Now, you guys, you said that we're acting like a cult. Is that true? Mm-hmm. Yeah.

8:14Ronnie Karam: Yeah. So I was very hurt, okay? Because I felt like I'm trying to talk to everyone, and everyone has the same voice, and no one wants to listen to me, and everyone has Julia's back. And it's like a cult. It's like a cult. I said the word cult because it's like a cult. That's what it's like. Oh.

8:30Ben Mandelker: So suddenly you put on some Nikes and are planning to hop a ride on a comet, and you're in a cult? I don't know. When did this happen?

8:37Ronnie Karam: Mm-hmm. Well, I find it very offensive. And we have to be careful of the things we call each other and the things you say. because they stay here and I don't like it because you know, first of all, we're not a cult. Okay? We're not a cult. See, but Alexia, she doesn't mean you're literally a cult. We're not a cult.

8:54Ben Mandelker: I know. First of all, okay, Keith Reneer, we enjoy, he's just a friend, but we're not a cult, okay?

9:01Ronnie Karam: Any tattoos you get on your hoo-ha is up to you. It's not up to us.

9:05Ben Mandelker: We suggest it. We suggest it. It brings us closer, but it is voluntary. it's not now now that being said we are going to go on a cast trip to our compound in rural oregon and there will be if you would like to join in the group sex that's totally optional

9:26Ronnie Karam: please only wear white and no shoes no shoes at all okay uh give us 90 of your income okay and so she's like do you even want to be part of this friend group that's what i want to know You guys have to understand. I'm coming from a place of like trying to find myself. Do you understand? Like, I'm just trying to be like vibe. Do you know? Because my literally, you know what my motto is? Kiss. Keep it simple, stupid. Okay. I don't have time for this shit. I don't have time for this shit. Do you understand?

9:57Ben Mandelker: I also have another motto. It's called, oh, I wish I were an Oscar Mayer wiener. Dr. Jackie just taught me that one.

10:07Ronnie Karam: You know what? You know what my motto is? Sugar, cream, eggs, milk. That's it. That's it. I'm not the back of a briars box. Okay?

10:18Ben Mandelker: Listen, listen. There was a time when we were all getting along so well. And I just, I want my, you were all like my beautiful babies. And I just want my baby back, baby back, baby back, baby back, baby back, baby back, baby back.

10:32Ronnie Karam: Well, okay. Just don't involve us in the semantics. Because it's just so complicated. I mean, there's a lot of text messages. We don't need to read that. Nobody here can read that. You know, you put up all this stuff we have to read, and you put us in this awkward position of having to read it so we don't read it, and then we get mad, and then there was nothing to be mad about. How should I know? What am I supposed to read? I mean, por favor, no más libres, okay?

10:59Ben Mandelker: I'm not living in Gertieland. I don't know what she's talking about, But maybe Julia is going to accept this tiny bit of remorse and end up making out with her. I mean, it is part of the blood pact we had to take in order for her to hang out with us. You have to make out with someone outside the group. But, you know, we're not a cult.

11:18Ronnie Karam: So everybody comes. Adriana's wearing a Harvard T-shirt because that's where I go to school. And Stephanie's showing off a purse in the shape of a wiener dog worth$2 ,600. Wow. Wow.

11:31Ben Mandelker: So rich. Wow A purse that's worth$2 ,600 That's cheaper than the last purse you showed Wow, getting poorer over the course of an episode Wow

11:42Ronnie Karam: I wish Adriana's dog was here to hump that purse

11:49Ben Mandelker: I do too So Stephanie's like Oh, his name is Hector And that's the least amount of boobs I've seen Okay And Lars goes First of all First of all, I'm not preppy I like to dress slutty And I like to dress preppy because by the way, none of them know how to dress preppy. I think the only one who really knows how to dress preppy is Julia because she comes in wearing like a Wimbledon sweater and pants, which is what like a waspy lady in the Hamptons might wear. But everyone else is just wearing kind of like just still their same kind of outfits.

12:20Ronnie Karam: They do the tennis outfits, you know, like the tennis sweater is a couple of them. Yeah. I liked Alexia's because she's like, preppy means smart, so I'm wearing glasses. Yes. I can do preppy. i'm a star star preppy so they come in they eat some food they look around she's like do you like it i put my heart into it i made all the food here all of it that's pretty good for someone

12:46Ben Mandelker: who doesn't eat am i right yeah seriously um so uh yeah just more people are arriving and everything and they're saying hi and they're all like sort of like laughing at each other's outfits And then Marisol's like, so, you know, Adriana, I feel like the liquor brings out the truth. I mean, the stuff comes out. You know, you can apologize, you know, because Adriana's like, I want to apologize because I was drunk. She's like, I brought out the truth. She goes, okay, but I feel the same way. And when you say mean things to me, like, go fuck yourself. Then, you know, I feel like, why do you hate me so much?

13:20Ronnie Karam: And I was like, well, you know, I'm just trying to ignore you. I'm trying not to talk to you. And then I'm getting it. And I'm getting it. I'm getting it. Just lay off me. All right. We've got bigger problems this season. We don't have to work so hard. We've got Julian Gertie. We've got Stephanie Alexi. We've got Lisa and Larissa. Can we just sit in the green room for a while until we get a regular paycheck?

13:40Ben Mandelker: Or you're working too hard for this. Adriana's like, you know, I'm just tired of all this bickering. It's like it's not constructive, so I might as well get along. And Marisol's like, well, I have no idea if she's sincere or not. I don't know what's up her little wizard's sleeves. I'm just hoping tomorrow is good and the next day is good. And I'm just doing one day at a time with this girl.

14:02Ronnie Karam: So they do a cheers because they made peace and everybody applauds. And Lisa comes. She's dressed crazy. She's dressed in big platform heel boots. Oh, my God. And black. She's all in black. She's like, oh, I went with Wednesday meets Clueless. By the way, did you know Wednesday is back on TV? I'm so excited. It's like my favorite show. Did it come back yesterday? I said one yesterday, and I laughed and laughed. Wednesday is my hero. I love her. Wow.

14:31Ben Mandelker: Wow. I'm so happy. I love her. Happy for you. Well, I am happy for you.

14:38Ronnie Karam: Thank you. Okay. So, anyway. Wednesday. They cheers. Lisa looks cray cray. And then, you know, I was looking for a, yeah, Clueless and Wednesday. I was actually looking for a long time for a preppy look, and this is what I came up with. What do you want to do?

14:54Ben Mandelker: just walk into a Ralph Lauren, just get a big blue Oxford with like a white collar, oversized cinch it. I don't know. Like it's really easy dress like Anna Garten. I mean, I know it might not be the most flattering look, but it will definitely be, you know, preppy.

15:09Ronnie Karam: Well, that's the easiest theme. She only wears one thing.

15:12Ben Mandelker: Yeah. And there she gets those custom shirts, those custom Oxfords that she just wears. Yeah. I'm jealous of people who like just establish a uniform for themselves, like Ina and Michael Kors. And then that's just all they have to wear the rest of their life. Easy. Yeah.

15:26Ronnie Karam: So she's like, all right, ladies, I'm glad you're here. Everyone loves a good theme, am I right? So here's what. I started digging into my roots. Not my actual ones. Those could use some attention, let's not lie. But I feel like everyone knows me, my mother's daughter, blah, blah, blah. Cuban. But my dad was from Connecticut. There's a very American preppy side to me. And I went to Boston College. I went to boarding school in Palm Beach. So there he goes.

15:54Ben Mandelker: I just would never peg Marisol Patton as a Boston College grad. It's just like the most random thing. I don't know what I think of with a Boston College grad. I mean, it's a really good school. I just don't think of Marisol just even being associated with like Boston in any sort of form. So it's just kind of hilarious to me. so she's like well I love my prep school because I was just getting hormones and like a zungas and I was hot for boys and god I had posters up of you know Jimmy Stewart and oh god what a hottie he was and I was just trapped with all these nuns and girls in this boarding school and by 11th grade I was I was like going to a co-ed prep school I was like hello yeah my grades dropped and I was having the time of my life listening to the doo-wop songs and doing it to doo-wop.

16:44Ben Mandelker: That's what I like to say.

16:46Ronnie Karam: There's nothing like making out with someone in the back of a Corvette while a Beach Boy plays.

16:53Ben Mandelker: God, the amount of necking I did back in those days.

16:59Ronnie Karam: Third base. We would literally go on third base and kiss each other on the cheek. It was just...

17:08Ben Mandelker: Oh, God. Every time I see Adriana's poodle humping some leg, I just think of all the poodle dresses I went through in those days.

17:18Ronnie Karam: So Adriana is like, can I give a clinical aspect? And so they're scared. And Marisol goes, oh, a Harvard clinical aspect. Only on Real Housewives of Miami are they going to shame somebody for going to Harvard, by the way. Which is so fucking funny. I love that that's going to become a storyline that they're going to be shaming Adriana for furthering her education. Fucking crazy people. So she's like, well, when we are conceived, you cross, you have crosses. And then if you are a girl, you get your chromosomes from your dad. So similarities you have to him are greater than you think. Look at that.

17:50Ronnie Karam: That's why you weren't interesting until your mother was gone and you could copy her personality. Congratulations.

17:56Ben Mandelker: I'm kind of low-key obsessed with Adriana, like reciting ninth grade biology information, but under the guise of like a Harvard education. She's like, I went to Harvard to study. And what I'm telling you right now is that we have cells and they have DNA and also cells replicate. So there, you got it. You learned from Harvard. Now you're basically Harvard educated now.

18:21Ronnie Karam: One reason I really like Adriana is because she's so smart. I mean, she is very, very, very smart. Like she's way educated and she knows a million languages. She plays instruments. I mean, she's so smart and she still just gets down in the mud. And I just love that. She's still a disaster.

18:38Ben Mandelker: Yeah. She's probably like, it's, I sort of get the sense that behind Wendy, she's like the most educated person on Bravo. And, but she's a total disaster. It's great. So she does this whole, she basically is just telling everyone this stuff about chromosomes. mainly to remind everyone that she's doing a master's of psychology at Harvard, which of course, like you mentioned, they're like, whatever, it's night school. I'm like, yeah, but it's still Harvard. Harvard's not, it's no walk in the park. Okay. So, um, they're, they're just like dissing her about that. And, uh, I love the Larsa, Larsa of all people weighing in, babe, he signed up for an online course.

19:21Ben Mandelker: I'm like, Larsa, you are an online course. you charge people to look at your toes do you know how many anthropologists are studying your toes right now

19:31Ronnie Karam: so she's like yeah you just signed up like online like everyone like can do that like all you have to like do is like pay for like it okay then do it if it's that easy I would love to see Larza try and get a fucking education now there's a season right there Larza trying to learn something

19:48Ben Mandelker: do it if it's so easy it'll take several seasons for that to happen Wait, how does the can opener work like? It's your class, can opening.

20:00Ronnie Karam: What's even like in this? It says it on the label.

20:04Ben Mandelker: What? Larsa, I'm afraid that you're not quite ready to move on to the mechanical can opener yet, so we're going to have to hold you back.

20:13Ronnie Karam: But it looks like it's got, like the picture on it is like beans-like. I don't want that. I'm not going to open it. I'm sorry, you failed this Harvard night course. Damn it.

20:24Ben Mandelker: So Julia's saying how she has the Martinez Wimbledon sweater, which is actually kind of a great flex. And Kiki's like, oh, isn't that the same tennis shoes you wore to Gertie's event? Which feels like she's trying to prod something on there. And Alexia's like, well, you know, it wasn't easy for all of us, but it was easy for you and Stephanie to wear something preppy because you guys are basically preppy and stupid, you know? And Lars is like, yeah. No, that's it. I was just like, yeah. Can I open it?

20:52Ronnie Karam: Yeah. I was like, yeah, beans are hard. But, like, Lisa and I don't, like, dress like this. Like, we don't, like, do that. You guys are nerds. You guys are, like, dumb nerds. It's time for a commercial. It's time for a Crappens commercial.

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23:17Ronnie Karam: FX's The Shards, now streaming on Hulu. So then Stephanie's like, I want you and I to have a talk, Alexia. And she goes, oh, okay, that's great. Ruff ruff. Ruff ruff. Is that good? Ruff ruff. Like a dog? Is that the whole thing you want? She's like, we'll do it later. So they're all judging each other's preppy outfits and stuff. And it's cute, but I don't need to talk about it at all. It goes for a while. So then they're congratulating Marisol on such a good party. And then they start talking. And now they start separating into little groups. Because Gertie's like, Julia, do you want to talk? Where do you want to go?

23:51Ronnie Karam: You lead the way. I don't want to seem too bossy. Okay? I don't want to be bossy. She goes, oh, okay. We will go here. We will go here. Sit down. Sit down here. Look at me. Look at me in the eye. Okay. Let's do this. We're starting this talk right now.

24:05Ben Mandelker: i still am not reconciling where we were so far apart because i thought we were understanding like let's move forward because when i went to the grecian party i just felt so betrayed i'm sorry because that was absolutely not my intention it seems like it's not but you know and and everyone's like watching because they're like three feet away what's happening like are they figuring out like can opening yet like and she's and julia's saying like you know about like how The guy was a life coach, so she wanted to ask this very qualified life coach his opinion on how to move forward with Gertie. But we see the flashback again, and she was calling out Gertie.

24:44Ben Mandelker: This was not asking an opinion. She was calling out Gertie once again. Yes.

24:49Ronnie Karam: So then Gertie's like, well, I don't understand how to express this hurt, and I expressed maybe in the wrong way. Okay? Maybe it's the wrong way. Text messages? Projectors? I don't know. Maybe it was wrong. but I don't want to be that person but I feel cornered and no one believes me and everyone thinks I'm a piece of shit and I don't know what happened and I don't know how fast it all got so furious you know it was like one minute you're girly the next minute you're Vin Diesel being shoved down

25:18Ben Mandelker: she did say I don't know how it got I don't know how it got all so I don't know how fast it all got so furious I would say it was almost too fast and too furious.

25:32Ronnie Karam: That is true, though. You know, and I think that's a lot of what people are missing from this season. I mean, you have to remember that last season, Gertie was loved. They were all surrounding Gertie. They were all supporting her. She was very much loved. Everything was fine, really, with everybody by the end. And then this season, they come in, and Alexia and Marcel are automatically like, I don't like her. She's too loud. She's too this. She's too that. She's just too much, and I don't want to be around it. And Julia's telling them all this shit, and then Julia's trying to be like, oh, she ruined my boat trip and all of this other stuff.

26:02Ronnie Karam: And it's got to be kind of a weird feeling when you think you're friends with everybody and then you just walk in and they all hate you all of a sudden.

26:09Ben Mandelker: When you realize like your cancer sympathy window has expired and they're back to like cutting you down like everyone else. And you're like, but I thought I was immune from that. So Julia's basically like, now we know that we are not at our best when we say things as a fruit, but at least we are smiling now. She's like, yes. I was, I'm just happy that we could repair this friendship and not replace it. Or as I like to say from a recent phrase that I learned, safe light repair, safe light replace.

26:46Ronnie Karam: So they get over and say, I love you. But Julie has this way, like she cannot hide, you know, she's like giving kind of like a dirt. She has like a way of narrowing her eyes and just like looking down. So I don't trust her, but we'll see. So then everyone's like, oh wow, good stuff This is amazing As we would say in Boston, congratulations Crappy side of me Actually, what we'd really say is

27:13Ben Mandelker: Congratulations, you fucking wicked pussy I think I did that wrong Congratulations, no, as we say in Boston Congratulations, Yankees suck There we go

27:25Ronnie Karam: Well, we are going to Spain and you girls will have fun. Fresh starts. Have fabulous friends. And Marbella is three hours drive. This is the problem. So we go, then we drive for three hours. And they're like, wow, yay. And Stephanie goes, wow, yay for a three-hour drive. And she's like, I'm going to bring the jet. So then we move on. Is this where? Yes. Then we move on to the jet drama.

27:50Ben Mandelker: Jet drama. By the way, my fingers are crossed that Julia's fabulous friends in Marbella are the same as Sutton's... Was it Sutton's friends who were in Spain? Was it Sutton who had all the fabulous friends? Yeah, I doubt those are Julia's friends. Oh my gosh. Do you think? They were like award-winning architects. Was it Sutton's friends? Yeah, I think so. It definitely was not Kyle. Remember, Kyle was like, oh my God, real adults. It wasn't Eric.

28:19Ronnie Karam: Wasn't that the guy who brought her Quince in the Pince or Merce in the Purse or whatever?

28:25Ben Mandelker: I think it was yeah, it was all these like intelligentsia from like Barcelona and like if they wind up being in Marbella Again, this is they're just like traveling group of intellectuals who also have like strange ties to real real housewives I would really be so brilliant people with a housewives fetish It's like a weird Vicky Christina Barcelona situation Say Harvey or hobby or Bardem. Okay. So yes, we now go into Marbella jet jet sweepstakes so um basically uh stephanie is going to fly everyone from sevilla to marbella because she can do that but doing flying from uh miami to spain is too big too long too fast too furious so they can't have too many people on there it's probably like a weight issue or something with the amount of gas so they're gonna have blah blah blah only three spots available on the jet to come with Stephanie.

29:24Ronnie Karam: I would love to invite everybody. Not really. I don't want to invite everybody. It's not a freaking bus. So...

29:32Ben Mandelker: I did like that. It's not a bus. Which is what she'll be driving soon enough, by the way.

29:39Ronnie Karam: So she is like, and if you are on my plane and you want to make the shit hit the fan, then please book your own bus because you will not fly back. God, this girl is so annoying. I love that she's just going to use this plane as like her. I have the plane. See, I'll have to be nice to me. It's like a little rich kid in school who's like, I have a Mercedes. Your fucking mom and dad bought you that. You haven't done shit to earn that. Get over yourself.

30:06Ben Mandelker: Yeah. Yeah. It's like when I would bring Jolly Ranchers on the school bus just that way people would like me. People, you know, you hand them out. People just put their hands over the seat. They just put their palms out. Can I have one? Can I have one? Can I have one? I'd be like, here's one for you. Here's one for you. Not for you.

30:23Ronnie Karam: You don't get one. Hit the fan with you. You do not get one.

30:27Ben Mandelker: I gave an extra one to Alexia. So, yeah, so it's this whole situation. And so Stephanie's like, Alexia, can I talk to you for a second? Woof, woof. Oh, you didn't like that. So they now are going to have their conversation. And she goes, I wanted to talk to you because I know we are going to Spain and I want everything to be cordial between us. but i really want to talk in private about this chihuahua and this uh rottweiler thing and like shaking head very rapidly to show that she is totally displeased by this but what you did say you did say that i that i bark okay you did say that i bark and that's that nice wolf wolf wolf

31:05Ronnie Karam: you know but didn't she say um so we've always been cool i don't like you said that i bark because i don't she goes but you do bark it's like well so do you and you're like a chihuahua well you barked at me first but i'm like a rottweiler i'm not a chihuahua oh i thought that never mind i didn't remember it happening like that but you know what i remember things wrong so she's like yeah you said i bark and she's like um but that's what she sounds like when she speaks she's barking and as a matter of fact alexia is next here next to me and then she pulls up a big stuffed rottweiler as her prop oh she's so try hard get rid of her i hope she's a one season i i don't like i don't

31:45Ben Mandelker: like the props but also like if you're just trying to be like well she said that she was like she was saying she's a rottweiler so she's calling the rottweiler but then you hold up like a stuffed dog so you really are calling her a dog and she's trying to sort of get around it with semantics but i'm telling you last week when we saw her she said where's the rottweiler i don't think she was doing a call back to the joke i think she was calling alexia a rottweiler and didn't realize that alexia was right there and then had to act like no i'm doing a callback

32:13Ronnie Karam: so like even if she doesn't even if she didn't say like i'm doing a callback it literally was a callback to alexia saying i'm a rottweiler so i don't know i just i wasn't that offended by it but you know it's like i'm against stephanie and also standing up for stephanie at the same time

32:29Ben Mandelker: which is a very hard place to be i was like wait a second i thought i had you on this one

32:34Ronnie Karam: i think she was i don't i think she was kind of i think in this rottweiler thing she's kind of innocent. The thing is, she's too comfortable around people she's not friends with yet. And this has been her problem the whole time. It comes up to Alexi in the beginning and she's like, oh, you know, here's what I say. When you take out the garbage, leave it. Don't go chasing garbage. You don't call someone's boyfriend garbage, even if they're temporarily broken up. You don't know enough about her to know her whole history of coming back to this guy and getting rid of this guy. And you may not be wrong.

33:04Ronnie Karam: It's not that you're wrong necessarily, but it's not your place. Like, I don't even know you. You know, she's too comfortable doing that with people. I think that's what she's over familiar. Yeah, she's over familiar.

33:17Ben Mandelker: And that's a great point. I do think that when she said the Rottweiler thing last week, I do think she was being nastier than she was. Then she's letting on. And I think the evidence is the fact that she has this stuffed Rottweiler, whether the producers gave it to her or whether she got it. She still is very happy to equate Alexia to a dog. And, you know, Alexia sort of gave her the sort of gave her the the the ascent by calling herself a Rottweiler deprecatingly. But she's definitely running with it. But that being said, Stephanie is incredibly obnoxious. She is definitely a faker. She's over familiar.

33:54Ben Mandelker: I do not want her to be a one season. I think she fits in very well in this group of crazy ladies. So I'm happy to have her here. I'm not saying that I think she's a good person or that she's like someone that I want to kiki with. But I do think that she is doing a very good job as a housewife. And did you see that she is first seat at the reunion?

34:15Ronnie Karam: What? God, it must get way nastier with her as this goes along. Well, did Bronwyn get that last year too for her first season? I think she did.

34:25Ben Mandelker: I think she did. but so it's Alexia it's Alexia versus um Stephanie and then the next one down is Lisa Larsa and the next one is Julia Gertie and then you've got the friends of I think that the Julia Gertie thing is actually more central and bigger but I think that they're not big enough on the show to both get first seat and then I think that like I think Alexia is they always give Alexia first seat if they can although maybe they didn't I'm a star I'm a star and Lisa and Larsa they're not gonna put Lisa and Larsa as third seat they're always gonna have them in second so I don't know I think that it just Stephanie just sort of wound up there because they needed someone across from Alexia and Alexia is gonna be first so Stephanie's like

35:10Ronnie Karam: well I feel like you belittle people you know and when you came in and called me a chihuahua that was symbolism because it's like I'm the Rottweiler bitch. You're the fucking Chihuahua. And I feel like it's very disrespectful. Well, yeah, she's saying she can kick your ass too, Stephanie. I love that Stephanie thinks she's a detective. She's like, she's got the degree from psychology from Harvard. And Adriana's like, no, sorry, what's her buns? It's like, oh, I don't come in thinking I'm the best. Okay. The world tells me I'm the best because I'm a star. And she's like, you try really hard. Like I'm the queen and you're the Chihuahua, you know, right there.

35:41Ronnie Karam: You're the Chihuahua, Tupac. and because two packs of dog the chihuahua and he scurries off oh and so the women are hearing this like oh my god i hear screaming so they go spy on them through the window and stephanie's like it's not going to go well if you continue belittling me well i'm sorry that you felt that

36:00Ben Mandelker: way thinking i was going to do that doing that to you personally because i wasn't that wasn't me doing that to you that was my star aura doing that to you i have no control about that stephanie He goes, well, you calling me a chihuahua is definitely not being crazy, okay? And so now everyone's, Stephanie sees them in the window. She's like, guys, go away. Honestly, stop it. So they're like, Kinky's like, so serious. Okay, well, if it offended you, I'm sorry.

36:24Ronnie Karam: I'm going to give you the best apology that has ever happened in the world. If it offended you, I'm sorry then. But you know what? Right now you're talking to somebody with glasses. So you need to have respect because I'm a very smart person right now.

36:37Ben Mandelker: Well, I'm going to say this right now because you are very smart. Okay. I'm not really offended, but I have to act like I'm really offended. So that way this hairpin turn will catch you more off guard. Okay. Because I want to extend an olive branch to you. So on the plane, I have one seat left. And for that one seat, I invited Marisol. She's like, oh, okay. You know, Alexia's thinking like, but I'm the star and Marisol is friend of. That's weird. But twist, she said, I will not leave Alexia. So my question to you is, would you like to fly on the plane? surprise, I'm inviting you on the plane to test if you are a shitty friend to Marisol.

37:16Ben Mandelker: Are you a shitty friend?

37:17Ronnie Karam: Very subtle, Stephanie. Very subtle move. And Alexi's like, oh my god, I'm like so confused because one minute you're reprimanding me and now, two seconds later, you're inviting me on your jet when Marisol said she wasn't going because of me. Like, what are you doing? That's something Frankie would say. Which, I didn't really understand that. What is she saying? Is that what Frankie would say? Like, what are you doing? That's something Frankie would say. Or is she saying, mom, do you want to come on the plane? Because I'm not going to let Marisol come on the plane. Do you want to come on the plane?

37:47Ronnie Karam: That's something Frankie would say.

37:49Ben Mandelker: I think apparently Frankie says, what are you doing? A lot. And Alexia thinks that's so hilarious. I mean, it's cute.

37:58Ronnie Karam: It's like Frankie always says, what are you doing? Right?

38:04Ben Mandelker: Right? She's like, we all know Frankie's iconic line. What are you doing? Like, what's up, doc?

38:11Ronnie Karam: Frankie's gonna get a spin-off on Bravo and it's gonna be called, What Are You Doing? Live. Like, it's hilarious. Even the title's hilarious.

38:20Ben Mandelker: So, I think that what Stephanie is doing here is she knows that she's putting Alexia in a situation where if Alexia says yes, she's being shitty to Marisol and she's also she knows that Alexia wants to come on the plane and Alexia wants to be on the plane, but she knows Alexia knows she can't go on the plane. but also she knows that Alexia is going to say no most likely so she definitely gets to get the credit for doing the nice thing and doing the olive branch without having to do any heavy lifting of the olive branch because she doesn't have to actually fly with Alexia on the plane but she gets credit for inviting her and then knows that she's not going to come it's kind of like if there's someone that um like like you know what there's like sometimes you just have someone and they're like, well, I guess I should hang out with this person.

39:07Ben Mandelker: And then you reach out to be like, I guess I'll hang out with you. And they're like, I'm busy. You're like, yes, I got credit for inviting to something, but I don't actually have to hang out with them. Yeah. Oh, that's, yeah. Sort of shitty, but we all know that that happens in life. Yeah, it happens.

39:21Ronnie Karam: I took it as her being really, I took it as her really thinking that Alexia was dumb enough to fall for it. Like she was trying to be manipulative and say, but do you want to fly on the plane? And then Alexia would be like, yeah, because she's not going to resist a plane. because to Stephanie, that plane is everything. I mean, that's why she's living her life that she is. She's doing everything. She's next to that old ass man in tight leather pants for that plane and that money. So for her, that's like the ultimate, like, I've got a plane, everybody. So, and she knows Alexi is shallow. So she's figuring she can start some drama with Alexi and Marisol, but Alexi is not quite that stupid.

39:56Ronnie Karam: So, sorry, sucka. And so she's like, well, I mean, who gives up their seat on a private plane? I mean, let alone a transatlantic flight for their friends. I'll see you there. Have fun with the TSA. I wouldn't want to go on that woman's plane because she's on it. I don't want to go there and have her be like, oh, guys, this is what we do when we're flying over this part of the world. We do a special cheers, you know.

40:23Ben Mandelker: She'll be super annoying about it. So they go back to the rest of the group. And Marisol's like, well, you guys look like, look, you guys look good. like what happened over there like you guys are good like like what happened like what happened like so they say yeah everything's good and everything and and stephanie talks about the plane and she's like well you know some people are going to go on the private plane and some aren't and alexia says that she basically you know she's opting not to do it etc and so and and so but there's going to be someone who gets to go on and marisol goes well i don't think monkey is making the manifest on that jet.

41:02Ronnie Karam: And we get a flashback to Lisa saying, I want to be friends with her because she has an amazing jet and I want to be friends with people who have jets and yachts. She's like, disgusting. So she gives a little speech. She's like, I'm taking my airplane and unfortunately I can't choose everybody. So I chose Larsa because we're very, very close and I chose Julia and I have one additional seat because unfortunately Marisol has turned it down because she's very, very close to Alexia and she doesn't want to leave her. So I do feel like it's between Kiki because we've hung out a lot and I haven't got a chance to bond with Adriana.

41:36Ronnie Karam: So that's in my mind too. So who wants to fight over it? Oh, she's just so gross. It's like, wow, I didn't take any of the people that I actually wanted to take. So fighting for last place is. Yeah, I know.

41:51Ben Mandelker: And she's like, oh God, I guess I'm stuck with one of the friend doves. so Kiki's like you know what Stephanie I'm going to make it easy on you as much as I would love to be on the PJ if you have not gotten to know Adriana I think it would be a nice way for you to bond and you know that Stephanie is like oh I don't want to take Adriana that's her last pick is Adriana

42:14Ronnie Karam: yeah and so Adriana gets to do it because Adriana goes not to mention that my supposed best friend is still on the plane so and she goes what and she's julie is like that is not my place out there now what are you talking about it's like that's what i really admire about you marisol because they have such a good relationship that she has alexia's back day and night thick and thin i wish i had that kind of

42:39Ben Mandelker: friend no one no one looks at alexia and marisol and thinks this is a healthy friendship i just see two codependent people i see alexia as like the the alpha in that situation and marisol just like tagging along and alexia knows every now and then you got to throw a bone to the sidekicks that way the sidekick stays as a sidekick and the sidekick has to hang out with the alpha so that way the sidekick still gets access to all the alpha stuff no one's looking at that and being like look at those two sisters who have each other's backs that's not it so adriana trying to make it that like she and Julia should have the same relationship.

43:16Ben Mandelker: Alexia and Marisol are not friendship goals. If you ask me, I'd like their friendship, but they're not friendship goals. I don't think that friends should be codependent like that.

43:25Ronnie Karam: Well, yeah. Adriana's gel. Cause she's not like that with Julia apparently. So she's like, I'm just saying you agreed to go on the plane with her without asking me to go on the same plane. And she's like, well, I'm sorry, but I don't think that makes me bad friend. And Marisol looks at Alexia and she's like, Oh my God, you look like you're crying. She's like, oh, my God, because I can't believe that you did that for me. You're like waiting around for me. She's like, oh, my God. We're such good friends. It's such a beautiful friendship. And Adriana's like, yeah, they're so beautiful. They don't go anywhere without each other.

43:57Ronnie Karam: I'm like, God lady.

44:01Ben Mandelker: Well, you know what, Alexia? We know how difficult this time has been with your separation with Todd. And, you know, because he filed for divorce. And it's good. And it's bad. and I appreciate Stephanie being so kind and including me. It was super generous, but this trip is about Alexia and I would never leave her. It just wouldn't be right. And I can't imagine any friend going on the plane and not inviting their other friend. Sorry, I just wanted to rub a little bit of salt into some Adriana's wounds there. Just a reminder.

44:32Ronnie Karam: Cheers to Spain, everybody! Yay! So here we go.

44:38Ben Mandelker: the trip commences. So that was a fun time. We'll see how this all shakes out. We know that we get the mid-season trailer. We know that Adriana and Julia's relationship continues to deteriorate. I don't think that they are friends anymore in real life. So we'll see how that progresses. And it looks like there's still a huge amount of drama left in the season. So can't wait. Great season so far. Thanks everyone for being here and we'll catch you on the next episode. Bye!

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