#2962 RHOC S19E04: NOLAve Lost

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1:52Ben Mandelker: Well, hello and welcome to Watch What Crap Ends, a podcast about all that crap on Bravo that we just love to talk about. I'm Ben Mandelker and joining me today is the glorious and beautiful Ronnie Karam. Hi, hi, thank you. Hello. How are you? Just dandy. We're here. We're queer. And it's Friday. it's Orange County Day and actually I would say it's not just Orange County Day it is Gretchen Rossi like super Fox News Hair Day because she really took it to the next level she is like ready to take over Fox Friends with that hair like that is she and you know what God bless God bless that white platinum white anchor lady hair that she's got today we are talking Orange County we have a wonderful Patreon that you can join where we have bonus episodes.

2:50Ben Mandelker: And this week we talked on our bonus episode about Project Runway and Big Brother and the Naked Gun and a baby shower. And I think maybe something else, I don't remember. But we had a lot of fun just chatting it up. So there is that. We do a weekly bonus episode. We do things like trailer trashes where we make fun of trailers for upcoming shows and Salt Lake City feels like it's right around the corner. So keep an eye out for that, et cetera. Also, Crappens on Demand where you can watch us, not just listen. We have a video component to this podcast and it is there on Patreon. And then a week after they go onto YouTube for your fresh content, go to Patreon and a lovely Discord channel as well.

3:31Ben Mandelker: And then on Monday, we have Crappy Hour. That's at 5.30 where we talk about Bravo gossip, et cetera. And then you guys get a chance to hop on and chat with us and air whatever's on your mind. That's at 5.30 Western, 8.30 Eastern. And we are going to alternate Monday's crappy hour and Amazon lives. So it's going to be a super, super fun Monday, always for the rest of eternity. Ronnie, what's going on with you? You know, it's fitting that Gretchen showed up in her extreme Fox News hair because she is finally getting some pushback for her social media posting this week. Have you been reading any of the Gretchen news?

4:14I have.

4:17Ben Mandelker: shockingly i have not what it did what happened now what did our i was just about to say i'm really enjoying gretchen this season i was just about to do a whole thing of like you know what i'm really happy that gretchen's back i think she's doing a great job but now what before well that's why i'm opening with this so you don't fall into too deep of a hole because i watched this episode i was like man it's gonna come in and fangirl over this chick well one of them is she and jen pedranti made some like video doing asian voices and making squinty eyes and stuff Katie Janela went on virtual reality with the boys and was talking about that not being cool.

4:54And then right after that, someone finally went through Gretchen's social media, which, you know, I've mentioned a couple of times is horrifying. I was not glad she was coming back at all because, listen, I know that there are people from all over the political spectrum here. I'm not here to get into like Trumpy this, Trumpy that, you know. Not that I've never been guilty of that. But, you know, it's not only that. It's not only a political thing. Like, she's got transphobic. She's just a transphobic homosexual. Homophobic racist. Someone from Orange County has these qualities. Yes, but at least, you know, as they always say to us, keep it in your bedroom.

5:35I don't need to hear it. Like, if that's your thought, then you do that at home. I don't need to hear this shit. Like, I don't need you. So here's some screenshots that she's been liking. This was compiled, I believe, by Bambi4183 over on the Insta. But here's just an example. When you open the door to homosexuality, you open the door to pedophilia. You'll never win by normalizing perversion. That's a Gretchen like.

6:00Ben Mandelker: Gretchen? Gretchen Rossi? Yes. And then another one is, she didn't write these. She's liking these. Then another one says, sin is a slippery slope. If you think it's bad now, give it a couple of years. If you want to save the kids, start by calling homosexuality what it is. And then this mixed with her racist ass post that she actually made. Fuck off, Gretchen. Like, seriously, go back to the fucking rock you crawled under. What a horrible, horrible, disgusting human being. And also keep kicking Tamara's ass while you're here. I mean, if you're going to be here, keep doing what you're doing. But also fuck off.

6:44Ben Mandelker: Yeah. Gretchen, who probably has like several gay men on her team, you know, forming that Megyn Kelly tribute on her head is like still going to like all these homophobic things. That's just I mean, I'm always I'm always so shocked when homophobes go on to Bravo. though. I'm like, you know, like, like, it's either like you are biting the hand that feeds you, or you're selling out your own views, you know, just to get some money. So either way, you're a shitty person. I mean, well, I guess, going off and like going off on quote unquote perversion. So I guess, you know, the only kind of perversion you like is young chicks selling themselves to old rich men.

7:31Like, that's okay with you. Fuck off, Gretchen. Get off your fucking toadstool. Okay? Sick of hearing you. Keep kicking Tamara's ass. You're doing great. I'm not sad. So we open with, yeah, start this Friday with a nice, strong fucking direction. I was like, okay, great.

7:48Ben Mandelker: Here we go. Here we go. We're going to have a fun episode. So we start with Gina at home. Listen, you can say fuck off to somebody and still have a fun episode, but you know, I felt like it was an important She needs to fuck off. I don't want to wait to tell her to fuck off. She needs to fuck all the way off. There's no room for that sort of hateful language and thought process, I think, in 2025 in general. And if you are liking those posts, you can fuck off too. How about that? So Gina is saying, oh my God, can you put clean Latif in the garage? She's asking Trevor, Travis, whatever his name is, to do this because she's getting ready for a big party and she has a Roomba that she's named Clean Latifah.

8:32Ben Mandelker: And she's like, that's not the vibe that I'm going for. Yeah, that's not the vibe I'm going for. I'm really going for more of a cardboard box type furniture sun chairs. You know what I'm saying? Get Clean Latifah out here. Yeah. So then Shannon's in glam getting ready and she's like, well, I will be regifting a candle that Earl of Pearl gave me apparently it is the scent of a lake which i am still refusing to let into my life so i'm going to give gina a lake a lake candle and apparently um it will automatically extinguish itself if a hurricane is coming for it it's got an adorable name it is called you didn't comfort me when a hurricane was ravaging my home gina's gonna love this it smells like not vegetables so then Ryan we go over to Jen's house and Ryan's coming down, hobbling down the staircase because his knee and everything and he's showing Jen a dress and then we see Gretchen in glam, she's like oh well my friend is going to be there Tamara and Slade's like are you talking about Captain Evil gosh I don't know why his stand up career never really took off because he is so funny how is he not still a hilarious DJ on the radio wow so back to Gina she's like oh my god it looks so good in here oh ding dong ding dong ding dong that's definitely Emily because she liked ding dongs a lot we're like hilarious like that we're like the Lucy and Ethel of ding dongs so um

10:16Emily whackily comes over

10:18Ben Mandelker: yeah cause she is like hitting she's doing that thing where she's like ding donging a lot because like that's Emily's humor is that like her her joke style is that she acts like a six-year-old right like she has she has food dangling out of her mouth she has the doorbell lots of times like isn't this funny regressive regressive so yeah she's there and uh people start showing up and everyone's just so impressed that uh gina has more than 300 square feet now they're like oh wow look at all this you have you have you have an open concept but not because it was forced that way there's like it's actually it's an open concept that's not just for walls it's not like a monica open concept it's like you actually have multiple rooms where you could have had walls and you don't have walls as opposed to all the furniture in just one small room as opposed to a studio apartment like wow what an open concept and it's not a park.

11:19Wow.

11:20Ben Mandelker: This is, I love that this house is like the opposite of Gretchen. It's an open concept.

11:29So Gretchen comes like, oh my god, Gina, the house is so pretty. And they take a tour which, you know, is two rooms. And so we see the kids' rooms and stuff. And then there's a container in the laundry room that says, check your pockets.

11:48Ben Mandelker: like just you know there was a time when we would clock gina for her decor and i think that when she lived in her small home she didn't have room for her decor and now that she's in a larger house again the decor is back i mean the little like check your pockets she loves some word art that's a genius thing it's always been a thing kitchen fireplace i want to make gina some word we should make some merch that just says in merch art font. I feel so bad. I feel bad. She would make a great TSA agent like, check your pocket. She puts it up there. It just has like a sign up that says security. Welcome.

12:31Ben Mandelker: Live, laugh, screening. This is a visual interpretation of how much she's grown. And yes, I'm referring to the check your pocket sign. She really deserves this. um yeah i don't know what chuck your pockets before you leave the house and make sure you haven't been pickpocketed by one of these poor children really hungry here when i this is how much she's this is a visual interpretation of how much she's grown and then i wrote and how much work she's put into her beach i'm pretty sure that was a typo on my part what did i mean by how much work she's put into her beach the idea of gina even having anything closer private beach just hilarious i don't know what that's all about so gina's like um tallie's here she made a bunch of food because she kate is on my party she's the one who did the bowl party do you guys remember that it's the one that i kated from inside my house while you guys were on a boom because i wasn't feeling good of course i remember that party because that's when they went on a tiny little boat and heather came up the stairs and reached what was clearly there was no more to the boat and she goes is there another is there another floor is there another floor to this yacht i mean look up heather there's no more urana gina yacht there's one floor and one floor only so did jen get to go meet tamra and jen did have lunch with tamra it started with a whole i'm obsessed with her things just oh god yeah i'm like a single white female um and i've taken photos of her to go to the doctor to look like her that's what she's saying and gina's like oh actually as i told me tamara pulled out a phone and she pulled out like this former fatty photo of jen and by the way a fatty photo that's what we're saying today everybody

14:25Ben Mandelker: like 20 times today okay it was like a fatty photo

14:332024, Emily,

14:34Ben Mandelker: I can't, you know, when I had to wear this size, it just reminded me that I just am different than everyone else. That's really hard. 2025, fanny photo. There's a fatty photo? Oh my God, look at fanny. Look at the fatty photo. Oh my God, she's like a fatty photo, bitch. Why would she show my fatty photo? What's Tamara's point? What is her point? This is ridiculous. How do you cry about this low point you're in this low point you're in and you're going to therapy and you're still finding time to find a fatty photo of me i mean it's a fatty photo um i have a question was the photo a picture of a fat you or was the photo itself fat was it like thick stock like no gina's not the point i have lots of fat photos of tamra would like them oh actually i post them i don't care oh oh emily doesn't care Really?

15:25Because last year you had a season-long breakdown because somebody gave you jeans that were not as small as everyone else's jeans. Someone gave you the size of jeans that you wear, and you literally had a breakdown about it all season. But now everyone's just supposed to be calm about it because your buddy Tamara did it. You fucking hypocrite, Emily. Oh, my God.

15:47Ben Mandelker: Ding dong, ding dong, ding dong. Hello, I am here. It's television's Heather Dubrow, and I have arrived with a housewarming gift. I hear there's talk about fatty photos. So to celebrate, I have brought you an ice cream machine. And by me saying I brought you an ice cream machine, I have brought Alfredo here. Alfredo, bring in the ice cream machine. Thank you. You can just put it on one of the poor stools here. Put it somewhere a fat person can find it. if we've also brought a ring light so that way you can take your fatty photo with the thing that's making you a fatty photo the ice cream machine enjoy i was just in paris for two days which made me think of ice cream they love it there somehow they don't gain any weight isn't that amazing sorry jen is it too soon well you know about the fatty photo?

16:38Why are we talking about the fatty photo?

16:41Ben Mandelker: There is no one on this cast who is going to use that ice cream machine. Not a single one. Well, first of all, the only one who would would be Gina, but her problem is that she won't know, understand how to work it. She'll be putting masking tape and staples in there. Can't ragu in there and shit. Whatever she finds in the check your pockets bin. Guys, my ragu ice cream didn't work out. I feel bad. I broke the ice cream machine. So, Tamara is, then Tamara arrives. And she is, you know, obviously very sad because she's like, you know, the situation with Teddy, and she's like, after my fight with Jen, my social anxiety is heightened.

17:24Ben Mandelker: I'm expecting someone to come after me at every given moment. I checked once, I've checked twice, and all my former fatty photos are still safe. But I don't know what's going to happen next. Who's going to reveal my fatty photos? I'm terrified coming to this party. Everybody's just so mean to me. It's so rough going in places where people might confront me about things I said about them. Terrible, terrible laugh I'm leaving. So Gretchen's like, um, we don't have to say hi to her, do we? Like, this is so awkward. And, uh, so it's - Would you rather like a gay person just ignore her? So Gretchen's - Can we just treat her like a trans person and eradicate her?

18:04That would be great.

18:06Ben Mandelker: I love I love Gretchen being anti-trans when she is the one who is transitioned the most on TV from a human face to basically an ink spot I mean that lady she's detransitioned maybe that's why she wants everybody to detransition it doesn't mean erasing your nose Gretchen Gretchen is the one who knows the most about what it's like to transition because she's the one who has actually erased everything on her face Am I being problematic right now? I can't tell. I'm just trying to diss Gretchen, okay? I'm just trying to diss her, guys. I think it got out of hand. It's time for a commercial. It's time for a Crappens commercial.

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20:54That's Q-U-I-N-C-E dot com slash crappins. So she's like, I don't want to say hi. So all the women gather on the sofa and it is really awkward because Tamara, you know, Tamara brings in this energy that's like, you're the one who fucks with everybody. And now you're going to come in here and try and get pity off somebody else's cancer. This is so fucking Tamara. It's like, okay, I don't have my own cancer storyline, So I'm going to steal someone else's from a different show because I've been an asshole all season. Like, okay, Tamara.

21:26Ben Mandelker: Also, congratulations on this on your sudden onset social anxiety, which has never existed until this scene. Oh, my God, it's such social anxiety, which is, of course, I went on a very calming show like the traders. So Gretchen is like, OK, well, Gina, what's your favorite part of the house? And she's like, well, it's really nice to have a pantry. That's where, like, dreams come true. That's what I always say to Alfredo. I say, go into the pantry. Your dreams will come true in there. Yeah, the pantry. And also, like, I did all my drawers. And she goes, oh, wait, you say drawers, not drawers? Is that how you typical ice cream lover?

22:09I told you it would be the perfect place to drop that thing.

22:13Ben Mandelker: I love how hyper-regional your New York accent is. unlike mine, which I've erased thanks to the Syracuse College School of Performing Arts. We had accent training, something that unfortunately Wendy Malick never did. I think we all remember when she tried to play an Italian nursemaid in that feature film called Italian Nursemaids. It was a terrible film. I don't know. Did anyone see it? Very on the nose. Very on the nose film. Which is what Gina's ragu sauce is currently on her nose after she tried to put it in my ice cream machine. I'm going to stop talking now. Gina, what's your favorite? Oh, sorry, I already did that.

22:53So Shannon comes and she's like, Gina, I brought you my tagline in a bowl. There's lemons in a bowl. There's soap. You're welcome. So this is so nice, Gina. Wow. So this is the entryway to the, this is the house. Oh, well, there are walls here. So that's good.

23:19Ben Mandelker: Wow. Room for a sofa and a dining room table. Wow. This is, you've really come up in the world. Very, very, very nice. Does this dining room table transition into a bunk bed or where the kids sleep? They have rooms. Oh, I think I'm gonna like it here. Do, do, do, do, do. What am I in a mansion? am I in a mansion what is this the lullaby of Broadway I'm making luxury everywhere so Gina's like I'm like really underwhelmed by Shannon's response oh it's nice all she has to say is it's nice yeah that's all she's gonna say because last time she ever said anything about your house you started a feud with her for an entire season I can't believe Shannon was so mean about my house remember that yes So, and she's going to do it again Because this is how she Yeah, and then when you walked into my house All you said was it was nice You didn't even congratulate me on everything I accomplished In the house Because it's nothing more than that, Gina It's just a perfectly nice standard house That's it, it's nice It's a very nice, it's a nice house I mean, we give her shit, it's a nice house But that's all you get, okay You're on Bravo, we've seen much nicer houses It's a house who prepared So Tamara can't eat today I can't eat today guys I'm just thinking about Teddy's tumor news So we talk about Teddy's cancer And stuff and she says that they were In New Orleans two weeks ago going to the Superbowl and Teddy fell down the stairs And they were like marble stairs They were marble stairs And finally Teddy was feeling better I don't know why that Why that detail She's like The worst stairs Yes, the worst days.

25:05Ben Mandelker: Which meant it was worse for me. She fell down stairs. There were marble stairs. And there were marbles on the stairs, which we thought that's why she fell down. But that's not why. So she's, Tamara was sad because, is sad because Teddy was finally feeling like herself and now she's got to go into treatment. Okay, now I'm going to say this. This is where I got annoyed. Well, one of the many different places and I'm in a constant state of being annoyed. But, you know, we've obviously over the years has given Teddy so much shit, like endless shit. But one thing that I think that we probably both would believe would be that I'm sure Teddy hates that Tamara's going on this show and acting more dramatic than Teddy herself is acting.

25:48Ben Mandelker: Because Teddy's whole vibe is like, I got cancer. Hi, I'm Teddy. I got cancer. I'm moving on. That's been her vibe, I think, which I think is actually really cool. But I feel like Tamara... Except when she goes on our podcast and lists all the people who haven't reached out enough, but go ahead. But yeah, for the most part. Why not? You know what? Actually, I'm going to say, why not? That's when you have the right, for sure. You have the right. You have the right. To get petty about who's been texting. Play that card. But Tamara, like, look, I'm not going to take away that it's like, it's distressing.

26:19Ben Mandelker: One of your best friends has cancer and has tumors. Of course, of course, that's so distressing. But there's kind of a feeling of like, Teddy's being strong right now. Like, how about you be strong with her rather than like, because she's kind of, I think, painting Teddy as, in a way that I don't think Teddy seems to be wanting to be painted at the moment. So it kind of rubbed me the wrong way that Tamara was, as you said, it felt more like Tamara was squeezing this out for pity as opposed to truly honoring the vibe that Teddy wants. Like it's sad. And if you bring that up with your friends and you're like, you know, my best friend has got cancer and it's horrible and everything she's going through is bumming me out.

26:59And of course, people are going to be, That's understandable. And of course, your friends are going to support you. It's just that Tamara's doing this because she knows she's in trouble. And this is, she always finds something to bring up. Yeah, it's like she's trying to use the victim cloak. And it's not even hers. It's somebody else's, you know? And it's just gross. It's annoying.

27:19Ben Mandelker: She's using someone else's victim cloak. And that person themselves doesn't seem to even be using it, you know? Right. Yeah, she left it on the chair. And Tamara picked it right up and put it on. Like, I'll wear it. You're not going to use it. I'll use it. it's like someone rented a car and then tamra went and took the car and started driving it like it was her own it's like no it's not your car to drive and it's not even my car to drive what are you doing so jen and shannon are outside with uh i don't know who and um gina's like oh by the way i'm gina so i'm here to really start some shit she's oh no jen's like gina says that she thinks there's a fat photo going around and emily's like oh well you're the one who knows i I mean, apparently Tamara had photos of Jen before.

28:00Right, Heather? And Heather's like, oh, it was one. One photo.

28:03Ben Mandelker: It was one. One. One photo. One photo. What was the photo? It was disgusting. It was some fat lady. So we put it in the ice cream machine and hoped it would go away forever. We put it under the ice cream spout and just let Alfredo pour all the fatty things all over it. Fun fact. Alfredo went and made an ice cream out of Alfredo sauce. It was so meta. We said the fatty lady in the photo would probably call it a milkshake.

28:38Ben Mandelker: We decided this year for Halloween, we're going to put up the picture of the fat lady on the window and scare all the children. What was the point of the photo? To show that there was a fatty photo. That was the point. There was a fat person. It's in the name of the photo. It's a fatty photo. to show there are very scary photos in the world. To explain that you need different style of lenses for different styles of people. Fish eye, wide lens, cinema, IMAX. It was to demonstrate the difference between... It was to demonstrate the difference between poor people, fat, and rich people. Skinny, that's it.

29:24Well, I don't get the point of it. And she goes, well, you know what? She said, look at this photo. She looks so different. And I said, she looks cute. And I made it an all caps and elongated cute to make it sound fatter.

29:41Ben Mandelker: It's like when you see a fat baby, you say, oh, so cute. Because you know they will naturally lose that fat. So you find that process cute. Yeah. so she showed you my fatty photo to be kind no no no it was more like you want to be her meaning in case nobody understands what that meant she meant like you were coming to the gym and you wanted to do a fitness thing with her and you spell it out from another person's view and you can kind of see what she's and she's like wait a minute wait heather heather what heather heather no no no no no look it's not my fight it's not my fight i'm just telling you what she said, but you're about to tell me that you could see it from her perspective.

30:24Ben Mandelker: Not her perspective. From one's perspective, which is obscured by the fat person in the photo. You know, all I'm saying is there's two sides to everything and sometimes they're both on one person, which creates a fatty photo. I'm going to have so many nightmares tonight. So, Jen says, you know, she's like, you know, Heather's always going to go back for Tamara? Because she's scared of her. That's the problem. Look, there's two sides to everything. You, no. You, Heather, you were bamboozled. I'm not familiar. I don't understand that. Jen's just so funny indignant to me. It's cracking the air. She's like, Heather, you have been bamboozled.

31:08She's like, no, not my fight. But you were about to say you could see it. Well, okay, okay, fine. And Shanna's like, well, I don't think Tamara does anything innocently. And Heather supporting Tamara right now is just hurting her. And that is my opinion. Did you get it? That's a big thing for taglines for me today.

31:28Ben Mandelker: Yeah, I did that bit with Earl, and he just stared at me and told me that his former stepson still hasn't visited. And I thought, well, you're really taking the wind out of my sails. And he said, don't talk about wind, because there's a hurricane coming to my house. I said, I can't really seem to do anything right. And he said, you really can't. And it's been tough. It's been tough. But we went on another date after that. And Jim says again, Heather, you are bamboozled. That is fucked up. You don't do that to another woman. Well, you can if they're fatty. I'm just... Hey, hey, so what do you guys think?

32:08Ben Mandelker: You guys think they're just talking shit about me out there? What do you think? Because one group is inside, one group is outside. And Gina's like, well, every group that you're not in is talking shit about you. That's why when we're not in one group, I feel meh. So back to Heather. She's like, so you are upset I didn't say that's fucked up. Well, I don't think it was presented that way. I think I was very noncommittal about the whole thing. Noncommittal. We are not going to adjudicate whether or not I was committal about the fatty photo, the horrifying fatty photo. So Jen goes, but you know her undertone.

32:42Ben Mandelker: The presentation doesn't matter. Okay, I like Jen, but is she taking up for me when Katie says something? Does she step in when Drake doesn't come over after my sixth invitation? Does she stick up for me? Does she advocate for me with Drake and the basketball player? what's his name bonbon i don't think so homie and not only do i not know i don't care and she does it with that frown teeth thing she does she's like i don't care which is exactly why i'm bringing it up yeah so katie gretchen jean and tamar are inside and katie's like uh did you ever talk to jen and tamar's like well i went to lunch with her and it went like so fast she started calling me names she's calling me her the harbor names she goes well didn't you call her single white female well yeah cuz she asked me and I said you're obsessed you're reaching out to people who don't like me to build relationships with them.

33:37Gretchen goes like who? she goes uh like you.

33:42Ben Mandelker: well she needed consoling I mean you literally went out and told people the FBI raided Ryan. and I apologize for that I mean what's the big deal what happened to the times that you could just accuse someone of being raided by the FBI, bitch. Yeah, it was a simple sorry. That's all that required. Come on. And Gretchen's like, I feel like you're not really ever learning your lesson. Like, you didn't because you did the same thing to Ryan. And you do it all the time. You keep doing the same things over and over. And she's like, come on, Gretchen. I don't want to keep on going over the same old set forever.

34:16Like, you attacked me for 12 years, Gretchen. I've had that bitch so attacked. I'm so attacked.

34:22Ben Mandelker: Started it. Who started it? That would do Tamara She's been on defense for 12 years She hasn't been attacking for 12 years She's been on defense Don't make me defend Gretchen on the same episode Where we were pointing out that she's a transphobe homophobe Don't do this to me It's like a fight of the asshole It's like two assholes just going at each other So Gretchen's like You are actually delusional And she gets up and walks off And she's like I'm going to excuse myself Delusional Literally delusional So she goes outside to sit by the other one. She makes a big scene. She's like, can I sit by you guys?

34:57Because I don't want to sit by someone delusional. Did you just learn the word delusional? You're really holding tight to that one.

35:07Ben Mandelker: Well, did you apologize for that Facebook comment? Because you should show that you're the bigger person. That's what I always do, which is why I really showed I was the bigger person with Katie earlier this season, right? And America remembers that moment. So she's like, well, I always have to be the bigger person and I'm over. Can we stop talking about this photo? It's disturbing enough that we had to look at it. We already have a bigger person in the room and that's Jen. Jen, do you have anything to say? Jen, would you like to apologize to us for being fat in our presence? It was a long time ago.

35:38The memory of it hurts. I just got an extended seatbelt for the memory of you. Okay.

35:47Ben Mandelker: Jen when we leave this party we're going to ask you to leave from that exit instead that is the fat person exit thank you so much and Gretchen's like you can't reason with someone whacked that in the head I want to stoop to her level that's what I want to do well I hope all the gay and trans people in the world feel the same way right now so they all go inside you guys want to see my ass not really Luan just passes by not really she's like over the fence like wilson not really well and you're supposed to be hiding your face i'm what a cabaret star is supposed to hide her face behind the fence i don't think so be cool so gina has gifts for everybody so she hands them all gifts and then she's like don't open them here i gotta do a thing so she goes upstairs and hangs out a window and she's wearing like a new orleans you know costume like a bunch of beads and she's got a little horn she's pulling a little horn and it's like ladies you know i'm no straight to the magic and i'm at a magic experience for myself on the show since we're all talking about old clips today so i think you guys are in need of voodoo help yourselves i planned a trip to nola and like they like to say in new orleans don't forget to check your pockets

37:07Ben Mandelker: so she throws beads and Tamra's like

37:13so she

37:13Ben Mandelker: Tamra goes off with she goes inside because New Orleans it's too much for her it's too much it's okay it's okay but I'll just talk about former fatty photos and going to the city of fat Tuesday it's too much too much for me right now guys don't you understand the last time Tamara was in NOLA was when Teddy fell down the stairs. They were marble, marble stairs. Oh my god, that's right. I'm in my old house. I used to fall down the ladder to the second floor all the time. Oh god. So Tamara's like, I'm just telling myself, she'll make it. She'll make it. And Gretchen's like, wow, she's really good at playing the victim, huh?

37:58Gretchen's not giving an inch. she's like no yeah i will not accept your friend has cancer card no it is not accepted sorry she's

38:06Ben Mandelker: not the hero we want but she's the hero we have to quote batman so uh tamra and sophia at home so sophia is looking at her spotify stats and she got a thousand monthly listeners which is cool and um she wrote a song about a girl who met a guy online who ends up being cannibal the song is called The Love Life of Erica Jane. So, congratulations. Oh my gosh, she's blaspheming. She's doing everything herself. I mean, look at this. Her face, the girl, he writes a song about a girl falling in love with a cannibal. I won. Wasn't there a song about that? We are cannibals. I don't know. Anyway. It doesn't ring a bell, but I'm sure there is.

38:54I love that she's got a stolen cannibal song she's just like taking really macabre ideas but they've already been done

39:05Ben Mandelker: everything's been done at this point I'm going to write a song about this hotel in California where everybody goes to die

39:15Ben Mandelker: Tamara's like could you make me a song um sure I think the bitch is back that's not a new song but um so he's like no you can't even sing i'm not gonna i'm not gonna write you a song we've already made you a song and it's called hey bitch and there will be no better tamra song ever written than hey bitch so that's right it will be playing at the end of this episode thank you so then we go to katie and son being boring i mean they're boring she's like my son plays the piano. I don't care. And also, he makes his own songs, and they're not about cannibals. What a nerd! You know, I love when the Housewives, when the producers are like, let's add some thematic parallels in an episode.

39:58Ben Mandelker: You have Sophia making songs on Spotify, and then you have Bandon making songs not on Spotify. Loser, loser, way to not get ahead in the business. Congratulations. Good luck making songs by yourself that go nowhere without Spotify. Dumbass Hey listen to your song Or nobody heard it if I

40:24Ben Mandelker: Wow please welcome Four time never had a Grammy never will Loser Bandon

40:34Ben Mandelker: Just joshing He's eight years old Yeah just a little baby So then we go to Emily and her family And she's like slopped some ground beef into a pan and is pushing it around. And so her son's like, what is that? And she goes, ground beef, I just got it out of my purse. You want to try it? And he's like, no, it looks weird. And then he runs off. She's like, oh my God, he's got an eating disorder. You think his ground beef looks weird? Oh my God. So she makes another scene about that. To be fair, that may be most people's reactions to Emily's pan of ground beef that she's working on right now. It did not look appetizing.

41:10I can't imagine any kid walking in and seeing that in a pan and being like, delicious, mom. Put it on a plate right now. It's like raw beef.

41:20Ben Mandelker: Yes. Can I have a piece of that half-cooked ground beef? It looked horrible. It's like, I can't believe he doesn't want to eat it, Shane. We need to do something. Emily, you're writing a little hard on this storyline. Yeah. So Emily has a conversation with Shane, and they're talking about how they're going to find out where he is on the spectrum soon. so then we have uh jen and ryan at the gym and they're working on their their workout plan because they're going to get married are we going to see their wedding on this season i feel like they're queuing it up but there was no indication i feel like anywhere that there's gonna be a wedding it doesn't feel like the cheapest bravo wedding ever because they're just going to be on a beach so done yeah done so they're working out and jen is saying that like a lot of women struggle with confidence and body image so hearing hearing that tamra's showing up a fatty photo of me it's just gross i mean how old are you i can't believe she's throwing a fatty fatty photo big blubbery fatty photo of me i'm like why are people why do they keep saying fatty they're saying fatty so much i know it was cracking me up so ryan's like it's oh yeah and by the way i think we should also point out like a it's it's just a photo like she's like a little heavier in the photo but like they make it sound like she is in gilbert grape and also even if she were like who cares but like they they are they really are acting like these are old problematic tweets that are going to get her canceled a la gretchen and well tamra was doing it to be mean like she i don't even like it look at it she used to be fat i mean that's tamra is so disgusting but the way that everyone's acting you're right and that's why we're laughing so much about it because like a fatty photo you see the picture it's like what you had a kid a month ago like what are you talking about jen has a perfect barbie body like nobody yes only in orange county would people be scandalized by somebody being a different weight at a different time you know it's so stupid but also just the way that they're kind of like so insensitive about like they're horrified about it but they're just the way they keep saying like look at this fatty photo i can't believe she's showing a fatty photo did you hear there's a fatty photo going around and there's just like The way they keep saying fatty is like, it's just, it's so mean.

43:35Ben Mandelker: And they just keep saying it over and over again with clutching their pearls. It's why this show is so hilarious to watch. Commercials, here comes one right now.

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45:26Now they're talking about the kid situation And Ryan's like yeah you know I'm just having a problem with your ex I mean it's problematic This guy it's been over a year You know the kids live with us You've got a lump sum in your divorce degree He hasn't paid a dollar towards He doesn't pay them anything And then we see Jeff Lewis show The biggest shitster on this show these days He's on his show And he's like so you got$500 in your divorce And she's like well it's$200 but no, I have not received any of that. Okay, well, you get$6 ,000 a month in whatever. And she's like, well, unfortunately, he has not been able to make those payments.

46:05Ben Mandelker: So... He did give me a bag of peppermint patties and says that this exonerates him from all obligations. And I did agree until Ryan said, this is not the same thing as$200 ,000. And I said, you're right. You're absolutely right. So we gave him back the peppermint patties. then tamra cheered for me somewhere i just felt tamra cheering for me uh she's like you know i just worry this situation's gonna be a drag for ryan you know i just don't want it to be a drag because he'll want fun and then he'll leave me what am i gonna do and so she's like you know at least we're communicating and thank you for telling me how much it's bothering you because to get the attention of my last husband i mean the only time i could even get his attention was to get naked and then suddenly the laptop would close and the airpods would come out and he's like well I definitely need to get some more airpods yeah so then we go to Gina at Shannon's and she's like oh my god look I brought pizza it's Gina's pizza oh my god is it going to ask me to borrow$20 I just can't eat the poor pizza this pizza is styled so poorly yeah um so you brought me a pizza and the box says pizza it's so you wow how funny because i remember walking down the streets of new york city eating pizza with hands and being a normal person and did i ever get a box of gina's pizza i don't think so why do pizza boxes always say pizza it's like you're the most obvious box in the world like no one is gonna think a pizza box as anything else.

47:45The only thing shaped like a pizza box is a pizza box. Yeah. Save yourself the font, you know?

47:51Ben Mandelker: It's like, oh my God, did someone deliver me a Frisbee? I finally got a Frisbee. Oh, it's a pizza. I really need to write pizza on that so I don't get my hopes up. I just ate a Frisbee. So, Gina is marveling at all of Shannon's plates. Wow, I've never seen so many plates in my life. It's like so many plates and they're all made of metal. I love that Gina's shocked by someone having different kinds of plates for different things. She's like, wow, none of those are people. That's crazy. I feel bad for people, please. So she asked Shannon how she's feeling. She's like, well, I'm alone and I love it.

48:32It's just so crazy how much fun I'm having being all alone with none of my kids here to talk to me. No husband to talk to. Nobody around trying to kiss me or make me feel good about myself. I'm just so happy.

48:50Ben Mandelker: You know what I love about being alone is you just get to sit at home and think about how you went to some hotel once and man after man after man came through that door and still couldn't find love. Oh, I'm happy. I'm a very happy person at home alone. Home alone? Sometimes I just go up to the bathroom and put afterspray on my cheeks and go, wow. It's like Kevin Callister. I mean, Home Alone kid was miserable. Look at his childhood. He's even got a marriage. So I'm so happy for him. What do you want to talk about, Tina? Sometimes I put all my jewelry out on a table and hope maybe two burglars will come by and visit, but nope.

49:31I wouldn't even make any crazy traps for them or anything. I just, I would be the crazy trap. You won, you won me Steal me, take me away

49:44Ben Mandelker: I did dangle myself on my rope And hoped that a burglar would walk in So I'd come swing at their face like a paint can And just make out But no one ever opened that door So I just dangled there for a whole afternoon So Gina's like Okay, well how you feeling You got a bunch of men I don't know why you're upset She's like, oh well, I've got Adam and Phil They want to hang out with me But they don't want to get into it with me Yeah, I wasn't really listening. Can you believe, Shannon, can you believe that there's a former fat photo of Jen? Former fatty photo. She's like, oh, well, there's a hypocrisy there.

50:19She can dish it out, but she cannot take it. So Gina's like, yeah, she's not growing. She's mean. And so now we talk about Gina, and she's like, well, you know, we're both working, and that's good. but like we haven't seen Travis's son for three weeks and his ex stopped sending him to school. And I know it's because I said, you know, it's a response to us moving in together. So like I feel bad about that. But like, I don't know what to do. Like, when is enough enough here?

50:49Ben Mandelker: Well, I don't like to use the whole bottle. Oh, I thought you were talking about the hairspray that you've been using. Oh, no.

50:59Ben Mandelker: You're talking about this lady. Oh, yeah, it's very difficult. Yeah, it's, like, difficult to think that your choices are, like, either live apart and be happy or live together and pay a price with clean and tea. Or just live alone and have some poor person bringing you boxes that say pizza.

51:21Ben Mandelker: So Gina's like, yeah, but I'm, like, not giving it up to someone who wants to take it. You know what I'm saying? I don't know what you're saying, actually. Do you think marriage will help? do you guys want to get married because I would love to watch another divorce season for you? Well, I don't know. Like, she just wants to mess it up. It's not bad. It's not cool. I feel bad. So she doesn't know if she can handle this the rest of her life, and she's definitely not having more children. And this does sound like hell. Oh, my gosh. Imagine. Oh, terrible. And the prize you get at the end of the day is Travis.

51:54Ben Mandelker: I mean, no offense. And could you imagine this lady is not sending the kid to school? We were just talking about this. What was it? unschooling? Unschooling. Yes, unschooling your children. It's a thing. It's a thing that people do now. So Gina is packing with meatball. Hey dog, meatball. She's like, meatball, did you find? And then Meatball's like, I did. Thank you for announcing that to America. It was a silent but deadly, but you just made it loud and deadly. And then Ryan is, Ryan and Jen are packing, and Jen's like, what is mardi gras by the way it's just an excuse to get drunk and show boobs and then ryan's like can i come so then i was like yeah it's where you know mardi gras happens you know you've heard a fat tuesday how dare you ryan how dare you bring that up right now why would you say that i hear there's photos so i hear tamra showing a photo of mardi gras around it's just not right so then we go to shane and emily uh being wacky and he's like i went to new orleans once we went into a voodoo shop.

52:59Pretty creepy. I love the same. A little Mormon kid going into a voodoo shop. Still horrifying him to this day.

53:08Ben Mandelker: I know. I'm like, there are people in this group who are possessed. We can do an exorcism. And thankfully we leave that scene. And then we go to Shannon and she's talking to her daughter and she's like, well, okay, I don't want any, I don't want to risk any negative voodoo shit coming inside me. And the daughter's like, oh mom what i just don't want anything coming inside me i don't here's what i don't want i don't want like a big explosion of who knows what i don't want a big creamy voodoo moment that's gonna come right inside mom you just please stop can we leave this facetime now so it's airport time so they're going and they have to do separate flights because it's not easy getting all of these bitches with a nonstop flight with first cleaners.

53:59It's hard. It's hard to get Dubrow to fly commercial, period. And Heather did look disgusted this entire trip.

54:07Ben Mandelker: She just, you know, she had like a pack like six inches tall of wet wipes. She's like, hold on one second. Let me just wipe this down. Like, ma 'am, don't worry. We cleaned down all the, make sure this is COVID free, no germs. No, it's not germs. It's just poor oils, poor people oils. Let's just wipe those all off. Thank you. And they also call it first class, but it's like, it's one of the planes that doesn't have true first class. It has the, um, just like slightly bigger seats, but that's it. You're still like rammed in there. And I love that for Heather. Yeah. Because it's not a trans con, a pure trans conflict.

54:43Ben Mandelker: So it's only going from like LAX to new Orleans, only going halfway across the country. They don't get like the pods that you would, if you're going from like New York to LAX. Even the normal first class, like even without all that, you know, the normal one has like the big wide seats, like with the thing in the middle and all that. They didn't even have that. They just had those like sad ones where you're like, oh, my God, I found first class for cheap. And then you get on there and you're like, oh, I'm first class. It's like comfort plus. But don't forget Gina booked the tickets. I feel me. Gina booked the tickets.

55:13They're lucky they weren't sitting on those Spirit Airline like bicycle seats and shit that they're making you do now.

55:19Ben Mandelker: They're on Gina's Pizza Airlines. so um they arrive yeah heather is ifp airlines i feel bad heather's like trying to do a bit she's like oh my goodness i love it i love it i love the poor people airlines do you guys have what are they called pretzels i would love one of those thank you so much so one group gets on the plane meanwhile the other group is in uh shannon is in a spank store in the airport and she's like i have to go to the spank store i wear spanks every day i'm seeing if they have new stuff so then um gina is talking about beads oh she's like oh my god they've got beads in the store and she goes oh yeah you flash them for beads and if you come home with beads i know what you're doing what no it was rhetorical what am i doing It means you flash your boobs.

56:14Ben Mandelker: Oh. Anyway, we're staying in the same room, everyone, because we're like Bert and Ernie, right? Yeah, we're like Bert and Ernie, but I'm more like Bert because I'm more linear. I'm like the linear one. I don't think that's the right use of linear, but sure. Also, you're calling her fat. Yes. What the fuck? What is with this show? It's like, I'm the more linear one, and Emily's like, yeah, I'm the fat orange one. so then um now at the hotel that i want no i was i was saying i wouldn't want to be called the orange one yeah the fat orange one um so i mean you're powerful at least you're powerful you've got a lot of power for a couple of years so then i don't know what you're talking about i just it's like it's not my favorite color so we go down um then we go to the hotel the gretchen katie gina and emily are the ones that get to new orleans and so they walk around they go to the water and they see stuff in the water and katie's like is that an alligator and she's like oh my god alligators live here oh my god what's this river so katie doesn't know so she looks up the river Gina's like, it's the bayou Gina calls the river the bayou She thinks the bayou is just the name of a river in America It's not even the bayou river This is just what the bayou is They're on literally the most famous river in the entire country One of the most famous rivers in the entire world What is this?

57:52Ben Mandelker: What river is this anyway? And by the way, when you go down, I'm like on one all of a sudden When you go down to New Orleans, there are like signs everywhere that's like Mississippi River Mississippi River come board the Mississippi River Queen like well we know why this place I'm confused I like that they go up and ask a local they're like what river is that and he goes it's just a river he gets an X and then Katie's like no no it's a river but it's called something you guys let me look it up so she I don't know what she does but she still doesn't get it and the producer tells her it's the Mississippi she goes well I don't I don't know about geography.

58:30Ben Mandelker: God. You know what? You don't have to know about geography, but at least be able to use Google Maps. Please. Although actually in defense, in defense, Google Maps drives me nuts because how many times do you like look to see what the name of a street is and the name is not there and you have to like scroll all the way up the street because they decided to put the label elsewhere and the label does not dynamically move down to where you're looking at that moment. That actually drives me nuts, but it does not take away from the fact that they still should have known that that was the Mississippi River.

58:58Yeah, you're still dummies.

58:59Ben Mandelker: You're dumb. Dumb people. On the plane, Heather is doing that standing up thing where she's talking to her friends standing up. Because this is what you should be able to do on private jets. So this is how the other half lives, normal people. Okay. I hate when people stand on the aisle to talk to their friends. I don't know why. It drives me nuts. They're always lingering over someone. They always have their hand on someone else's seat. Someone's probably trying to sleep nearby. And they're having a conversation. always dangling over and when heather does it she really dangles over she really gets that coralline's mother dangle going you know and it's just it's too much so um shanna's being super wacky and she's like i'm putting stuff on my lips and you want some and heather goes oh well you want me to put nipple cream on my lips oh it's nipple cream oh god i'm good you know when you live alone you know you just sort of forget you forget what cream is for what am i right god so many creams mother please just stop talking so emily's like oh you know i went horseback riding with jen the other day and she said that shannon told her not to roll on her and tamer's like well i wouldn't either especially with that photo going around and emily's like well shannon likes to have an ally says they're acting like they don't stop burton ernie like who's fucking talking look what happened the second gina tried to hang out with anyone else oh my god i can't believe you're leaving me for out there to bro enjoy your life with other bro i'm just gonna sit here and eat this fried chicken in my purse if we have to if we have to sit through another season of emily and gina complaining to each other that they don't have each other's backs like please yeah so emily It's like, why is it, why is the opposite?

1:00:47Ben Mandelker: I keep telling everyone to do. And Gina's like, well, we want everyone to get along. That's what we famously like. That's why every time, every year, when people tune in to see us, they say, let's watch Gina and Emily and how they make sure that everyone gets along. Yeah, but they're also the couple that starts the most shit on the show. I mean, Tamara does, obviously, but they spread Tamara's shit. You know, they're the agents of spreading shit. Like Gina's, Gina started this whole Katie, you know, thing, the fatty photo thing. I mean, they're starting, they start it. So Gina's like, yeah, we want everyone to get along.

1:01:20And like Gretchen, you know, like we get you got problems with Tamron. And Emma's like, we'll work our way up to that. That's a big one. That's a big one. And so Gretchen's like, yeah, you guys, you know what? I'm praying about it a lot. I really am. I'm just asking Jesus to like change my heart. But she has to take accountability and document somewhere that she won't try to get a penis later. because it's really important for the children of this country. And I'm all about forgiveness, but the Bible doesn't require you to reconcile with people who are trying to harm you. And that is called wisdom.

1:01:54Ben Mandelker: I was like, really? You did say wisdom, right? I rewound it five times and laughed and said, stupid. Wisdom. She said wisdom. Dumb hooker ass Gretchen. Oh my God, Gretchen. Well, first of all, stop praying to God to find like some sort of forgiveness in your heart for Tamara. God created God. Tamara's the devil. I don't think God wants you to be forgiving to the devil. God created the devil, too. Have you watched the nature show? Take a look at what God's created. Have you seen a lion eat a deer? God's also got other things to deal with. Not like trying to help you like reconcile or coexist with Tamara.

1:02:42Ben Mandelker: So Gretchen's like, what's it going to take for that woman to stop spreading the lies? So now the other plane lands. And Jen has a lot of luggage, but Tamara helps her, which just goes to show that there's hope. And Jen says, you know, when Tamara's kind, it feels like she's like my girlfriend again. But like something in my brain says, be careful because the other shoe will drop. Not wrong because your foot's too fat for my fatty. It's going to be stuck on there for years. Yeah. Stop driving shoes and start trying to drop some weight, bitch. So Shannon's like, well, my suitcase is wet. What is it, rainy?

1:03:18Is this sweat? What is this, sweat? And someone's like, it's sweat. She goes, oh, that is disgusting.

1:03:26Ben Mandelker: It's just so wet. Everything is just so wet. It's just, I just can't. You know, it's very exciting. But I'm so excited about this trip. Look, my case got wet. mother i swear to god if you do not stop talking on this episode i am going to come down there and put some duct tape on your mouth i i had so much fun in new orleans the first thing i did i was like wow this place is great i'm wet what this can be what is a whistle

1:03:55Ben Mandelker: so um we're heather's in a room champagne oh look look i got myself champagne that is so nice of me to give that to myself. Oh, I love it. I just loved Heather walking around this tiny, dingy, dark room, looking like trying to look like she was okay with it. It was so funny. She's like, look, I can walk from the bed all the way to the other end of the room by just taking one step. And there's champagne. I'm sure it's a delicious brand as well. Wow. Yeah, they were in a four seasons, but I think Heather is like, yes, but we stay at the five seasons so this is a bit down market for us it looked down market for Heather that room for sure so then Shannon has a wacky trying to get her suitcase open moment and Katie goes over to Jen's room and Tamra comes to Tamra's room Gina comes to Tamra's room and Gina's like I'm around to my room I just wanted to come by your room and see how you're dealing with everything I'm doing better Everybody's so mean to you Poor thing I'm a poor thing Get your hand off me bitch Why are you trying to be me I am you Oh my god I just walked in on camera Having a one woman show was scary How you doing Tamara I'm nervous I have hashtag social anxiety And I have to have dinner with all these people So then Katie is Talking to Jen And she's like, you know, they brought up the pics of you again.

1:05:33Ben Mandelker: You know, the fatty pics. The super, super fatty, fatty, fatty photos. And, you know, I just said it's unfair to say that she's moving on. And then you bring out the fatty photos. Like, why would they just bring out blubber 3.0 photos? And Jen's like, you know what we should do? Why don't we sit her down and just say, Tamara, your apologies do not work anymore. They just don't work. And so we go back to Gina. And now she's like, yeah, let's have a good night tonight. Because that could spiral into more good nights. And she's like, oh, my God, you made me feel so much better. Wow. Wow. How sad is it that I'm in a season where my only refuge is Gina?

1:06:18Ben Mandelker: And that is sad. That's a sad place to be. So then we are in a car. Now it's a little bit later. And they're in a car, I guess, going to dinner or wherever they're going, lunch maybe. and Heather and Katie and Jen and Gretchen are in the car and Jen is like, well, we went on a riverboat today. It was fun and peaceful. Oh, and now we're here. Went from one disgusting mode of transportation to another. Great trip, everyone. So in Shannon's van, Emily's like, hey, Shannon. And she lifts up her skirt and she's like, I'm going to have a look at your vagina the whole night. And Shannon just lifts her skirt all the way up and they blur out her vag.

1:06:53And she's like, well, I guess I just put some nipple cream on here accidentally so this is why you always have to stop by the spank store in the airport

1:07:03Ben Mandelker: because now i didn't get my spanks and look look what you see blur so now they arrive at the restaurant and when they get there the host is like okay everyone i'm gonna show your table but we're gonna pass the ghosts table first okay the ghost oh is that gina keogh no she's still alive Okay. It is the lady who, is this lady who designed the swimsuits? No, it's not her either. Oh, is it, is it, the, is it, what was her name again? I wanted to say Vicky, but it's not Vicky. Peggy, Peggy one and two. Is it a double ghost of both Peggy's? Hey, that reminds me, Noble Inhouse, that reminds me, where has Vicky been?

1:07:50She's not a friend of this season. Wasn't she here last year?

1:07:54Ben Mandelker: She was here last year. Did we not see her? Remember last year when she arrived in the middle of the trip, she went in the door. Yeah, we haven't seen any Vicky. No Victoria so far. Nope. No Vicky so far. Okay. So not that I'm complaining, but so then we get, they're trying to guess who the ghost is. So then Shannon's like, well, I have heard ghosts having parties in my house at night. I hope they're having fun. And once I was upset in my kitchen, sitting there alone, thinking how happy I am. And a ghost just sat there and stared at me and ate chips very slowly.

1:08:31Ben Mandelker: Who are you going to call? Anyone, really. Anyone. Janet Busters. So the host, she has a very sad experience with that song. When there's something strange in the neighborhood. how are you going to call many people because they don't answer the phones anymore for me it doesn't matter who I'd call they won't answer so the host I ain't afraid of no ghosts the ghost table and it's Pierre and Pierre was a resident owner in the 1700s it was his grand estate so I'm sure it was a very pleasant place like just think of what was going on in the 1700s in this place oh yeah you know who would love it Thomas Ravenel So Heather, Can I have some repression soup?

1:09:18Sounds delicious. Yeah.

1:09:22Ben Mandelker: Yeah. So then Heather's like, Oh, wouldn't it be fun to haunt Chateau Soup Dubrow? See if they took my etched window down. See if they have rounded.

1:09:38Ben Mandelker: See if they put, see if they ever let Richard Marks out of the basement. Oh, it would be so hilarious. Yeah. So Joe will be right with you And Gina's like wait a minute Is Joe with us or is he like a ghost too Cause like I don't know if I want like a waiter That's a ghost Cause like that would mean that the waiter is probably like invisible Right like how's he gonna carry a dream I'm like Hilarious I have a question about the turtle soup Is that actual turtle Or is this like How when we say Wendy Malick has a career Technically yes I guess it's a career, but we all know it's not really a career.

1:10:18And Tamara's like, you're not eating a turtle. Come on. And she was like, I'll try the turtle soup because, like, I like to try things where we are. And also, I get turtles sometimes in my backyard. And you never know when you're going to need to feed the kids.

1:10:34Ben Mandelker: Wow. Gretchen, you look like you're the detective emoji because you're wearing a fedora. And Tamara's like, oh, God. another Gretchen costume. You know, she went on, she in and searched Rich Detective and for 15 bucks, this is what she got. Ha! Burn. Hashtag burn. So, do you have to travel from Skylar? Because one thing I regret is not traveling more without the children. Okay? By the way, who is with your children, Jen? And she's like, well, Brian, I mean, they're supposed to be with Will but that's not really working out. She's like, how do him and Ryan interact? She goes, well, they usually don't, but they did today because Ryan had the kids and he went up to the ex and he said, how could you do this?

1:11:21Pay your child support. And Will said he does the best he can. You know, he pays the driver's insurance and, you know, he said he's on the loan for Harrison's school. He's one of ten people. But yeah, so that was his defense.

1:11:35Ben Mandelker: And Jen tells us that, like, Will's very controlling and, like, by Ryan like confronting will will is probably going to retaliate by blocking her and make life hard etc so emily's like well if he's if he's ordered to pay support he has to pay it god damn it and katie's like i just feel bad for ryan matt has been in the same spot you know and she talks about custody issues and everything and he was like you know it's hard to sit back and be the person to do nothing like it's travis's ex was contacting my child and my ex-husband and i haven't seen his steps on a month and he's like not at school outrageous that we're letting this poor woman talk so much at the dinner this is you're only allowed to have five minutes gina and it's like yeah i'm a lawyer you should be in front of a judge so heather one of the waiters comes behind heather and spills a drink on her and i died i mean this is this trip is hell for heather heather is hating every second of the fucking trip.

1:12:33But did she stand up into the waiter's drink? It looks like she was standing and that's why she got spilled on, right? Or was she standing because she got spilled on?

1:12:41Ben Mandelker: I watched it several times because what you first see is that the waiter's putting down like an espresso martini and then it like knocks over. But then Heather stands up after that and then winds up wiping her back. I think what happens is he had a tray of espresso martinis and as he's leaning forward to put down one, the tray tilted and they fell on Heather's back, which startled him, which is why the front one on the table, he shook it because he's like, oh shit. So all we do know is that - Oh, there's lots of spilling. I think the spill we saw was actually the secondary spill and that there was a main spill that happened on Heather's back, which is sad that we didn't get to see the full view of it, but great knowing that a service person spilled a cocktail down Heather Dubrow's back.

1:13:25Ben Mandelker: Oh my God. That person was never seen again. And no one has ever seen Joe again. Fed to the alligators in the Mississippi River, which turned out to be just logs. I'm sorry, can we have him replaced with an Alfredo? Thank you. Well, at least if they're going to spill on me, at least they spilled with my own glassware that I sent ahead of me. I tried to bring Alfredo, but he got lost in the luggage. So it sounds like, oh, my God, for all of the people for the ghost to spill on. I mean, that cost more money than my whole month's rent before I got evicted. I mean, that happened. How could you get evicted when I'm the realtor?

1:14:05Ben Mandelker: So Emily is like, okay, well, Tamara, you and Gretchen really need to have a sit down. And she's like, yeah, I'd rather talk to Jen. Okay, all right, go in chronological order. But like not tonight, because tonight we're going to have fun. All right. So the food comes. They like the turtle soup because turtle soup is good. I had it once like 10 years ago. I enjoyed it. It's fine. And then just in case anyone wanted an express culinary review on turtle soup. That's my flash review by Ben. Flash review. I like turtle soup. All right. So Shannon, uh, turtle soup, not so bad. Moving on. They start talking about, um, Shannon getting missed call from Adam and Jen's like, okay, Shannon, if you could create a man on a vision board, what would you put?

1:14:53Well, first of all, a man. Any man. Really? I don't care. A man with vision? I don't even care. Really.

1:15:03Ben Mandelker: Whoever you want. I don't know if you guys know this, but earlier this evening, Slimer came to my room and I thought, honestly, I would date him. A little messy, but gives me something to do. Clean up after him. Oh, I've got one. Would you date a short guy? hello that was very personal it wasn't it wasn't Terry's worn lifts for years oh god he's got lifts they're from China and his shoes are high and very highly priced so he probably won't be getting any more anytime soon okay Shannon you You have a bevy of men, okay? A bevy. Well, they don't want to be intimate. They're just friends. They're friends, and most of them are ghosts at this point.

1:15:55Ben Mandelker: It's been an issue. It's very hard to make out with someone when they have no corporal presence. Someone's like, well, I can't even imagine being single. The only thing that's worse than a fatty photo is a single photo. Am I right, everyone? I mean, you have to give blowjobs and get on top again. I don't do that. I like it from behind so I can watch TV. I like watching my 600 pound life while I'm getting banged. If I could add snacks, I would, because I'm wacky. Well, how about you, Dubrow? How about me what? Are you going to weigh in on this? I'm sorry. I'm just thinking about the many sternly worded letters.

1:16:31Ben Mandelker: I'm going to be writing to the management of this restaurant for having an espresso martini trickling down my back for the rest of this evening. Didn't you want without me? I'm just thinking 600 pounds. How many gens was that? i mean that's that's like two maids right there so emily uh so gina's like oh i know she likes being on top and emily says okay yeah she's probably like oh yeah terry tell me about your stock portfolio. Oh, oh yeah. Talk about stocks. Sam was like, I want videos. I never ever made a sex video. Ever. Have you. And just want everyone to know that if you have made a sex video, you do not count as an actress.

1:17:16Ben Mandelker: Just want to say some ground rules right away. I mean, I don't know if you would count this one where I just got basically espresso martini bukkake by Joe.

1:17:29And Shannon goes, well, I'm sure Katie has sex videos because she records. That's what she does. Oh, oh, oh.

1:17:36Ben Mandelker: Oh, hop-a-tss. Hop-a-tss. Katie's like, you're right. She goes, well, it's something for her to talk about, Bonnie Raitt. My favorite position is on the side. So I could go to bed. I'll show you. Let's get down on the floor. So she's, I guess, on the floor. And she's like, I'm letting you have sex on the floor of a nice restaurant. where I was like, oh, if only that careless waiter could come back and spill an entire tray on her. Yeah. So Joe, the waiter, is upset. He looks very upset that they're fucking on the floor. And Jen's like, well, you know, my vagina, it doesn't work. Jen's like, oh, my God, your vagina's broken.

1:18:15And Jen was like, yeah, the hole's closed up, right? With the laser thing, what'd you do to it? And she goes, it was pelvic floor surgery. It's literally, right now, it's just the tip. Just the tip goes in there. It's like that.

1:18:28Ben Mandelker: She's like, Ryan's a saint. Katie's like, her mouth must be tired. Guys, I'm having so much fun. But like some of us have our differences. But like I'm happy that you're all here. And we're having the best time ever. Friendship, friendship, friendship. And 24 hours later, you're the league. Stop lying. I cannot stand you. You're the worst person in the world. You were spreading around fatty pictures. None of this is your business, bitch. You're rude and you're sloshed. She's losing her mind. I'm out of here. Poor person. Poor person. Yeah. And Gina says, oh, my God, you guys, Tamara, just quit the show.

1:19:11Ben Mandelker: Dun, dun, dun, dun. Such a funny episode. Such a good season. Thank you, everyone, for being here. Hope you all have a tremendous weekend. If you're in New Orleans, I hope you survived having these people in your town. so thanks everyone have a great weekend and we'll see you on Monday bye for crappy hour bye bitch bitch walk into the club everybody say my name walk into the mall and same everywhere I go people holler everyday I raise my hands up and holler back hey bitch hey bitch hey bitch If you don't know me, you're welcome to blow me. Batch. Hey, Batch. Hey, Batch. Every day's a parade. Don't even try to shake.

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