#2970 RHOC S19E06 Part 1: New OLA, Old Tricks

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1:55Ronnie Karam: Watch What Clappens The Noonnie Toons Mandelker over there. Hi, Ben. How are you? I'm great, thanks. How are you doing? Good, hon. Welcome to your life. Thank you so much. What's going on? We are on Crappens On Demand today, as we are every day these days. So if you want things on video, you can find that over at Patreon. If you want our bonus episodes, this week's episode is going to be a Real Housewives of Salt Lake City trailer trash, which is where we trash the trailer for 10 hours at a time. So that's going to be really fun. So join us over at Patreon. Also, Mondays, we do things now. So some Mondays, every two Mondays, we do Crappy Hour, which is our live show talking to you guys about Bravo News.

2:45Ronnie Karam: And then every other week, we do Amazon Lives at 4 p.m. Pacific over at Amazon Live. You can find, that's going to be this coming Monday, by the way, the 18th. You can find info on our Instagram page, and we post links there every week. So just check our Instagram, watch what crap happens. I'm Ronnie Karam. That's Ben Madelker on Instagram. Okay, give us a follow. So there's that. And then what's the other thing? I think that's it for now, right?

3:14Ben Mandelker: Sure, sure. I don't remember. You know what? Like, I don't remember. We watched two Housewives shows last night and they were both amazing. So I'm just astounded that I have any functionality left because I feel like I was flattened by them because they were so fun. They were so good.

3:33Ronnie Karam: They were both so good and the SLC trailer. Okay. But before we start, I have some personal stuff I need to talk about. So I am in Los Angeles right now. This is my front door in Texas. Okay. It's my Texas. Got it. Some guy showed up today, rang the doorbell. So of course I got the thing. Can I tell you this guy is adorable. I didn't get his face, but it's probably good. You're not supposed to show random people's faces, right? Okay. So we don't get his face trust me he's hot i was like what is this person doing at my door i'm assuming selling something because he's wearing like a shirt with brands on it but then he like picked something up at the door and walked off and i was like what did he pick up like did i have a package is he stealing the package so now i'm showing you it's a bowl on a plate on a tray do you see this it's a bowl on a plate on a tray and it looks like cheesecake is it cheesecake but now that I look at it I can't believe I'm calling this person it's food it's food and I'm looking but now I'm saying he's hot but now that I'm looking I'm wondering if it's the neighbor's son who's now a teenager and I'm calling some teenager hot I'm so sorry if I sound like a pedo I'm not a pedo but now that I've made it this big I'm like uh maybe that's the neighbor's son

4:48Ben Mandelker: so maybe the neighbor dropped off cheesecake for you to be like hey Ronnie we made cheesecake do you want to have a piece and then you never answered the doors that went and retrieved it.

4:58Ronnie Karam: Oh, well, that makes this all much less exciting. I thought a hot person showed up at my door with cheesecake. Now it's just the neighbor's son making me taste his dad's. Get the fuck off my doorstep. I'm on GLP ones. What are you thinking? What kind of neighbor are you? Send over a hot person and a thong with that. How dare you? I'm going to have those. I'm calling the HOA.

5:26Ben Mandelker: H-O-A-T-O-G-O.

5:31Ronnie Karam: Well, I'm actually really glad I brought this up with you because I was going to spend the whole day like, oh, my God, someone's in love with me. Some hottie just showed up with cheesecake. Fucking neighbors.

5:42Ben Mandelker: Oh, yeah. I mean, it's always very exciting when there's like a hot delivery person. There once was like a postmate who was so hot. I like took a picture. I was like, Dom, look at this person who came and delivered a burrito today. and I have it somewhere. I have the screenshot somewhere. I wish I, I don't know, maybe it's in the ring archive somewhere because he was like hot and he knew he was like in a tank top and he like smiled at the ring cam. I was like, you know what you're doing.

6:07Ronnie Karam: Yeah. He's like, hey, possibly the house of Steven Spielberg. I'm available for acting.

6:13Ben Mandelker: That's right. Steven Spielberg, who now lives in a townhouse. So anyway, the point is whatever it was that you were supposed to add to the intro i don't remember what it was i just received my coffee from starbucks because my french press broke this morning and by it broke i dropped it so i'm like i'm i'm ramping up with the coffee right now i have to say this episode of orange county was so good it was so good even gina had a good moment was it just last week where i was ranting about how every single season i say i'm like i'm like oh can we just get rid of gina and then she does something good.

6:52Ben Mandelker: And I say, you know what? She's earned her keep. I'm refusing to do that this time. But good God, she was really good last night.

6:59Ronnie Karam: I was shocked. Well, I don't know if she's earned her keep because it's years and years and years of keep. She has not earned her keep. I'm not giving her the keep. She's earned her away. She's earned my respect for at least an episode because, yeah, last week on Crappy Hour, I think we both went completely off on Gina and Emily. And now, you know, look at Gina. I was very impressed.

7:19Ben Mandelker: Look at Gina.

7:20Ronnie Karam: You know, you have to give credit where credit is due. Does she make me crazy? Sure. Will I say it every day still? Sure. But give credit where it's due. She is due credit. Very nicely done, Gina. I'm proud of you. Keep that energy. Keep the energy.

7:38Ben Mandelker: She really, she really, it was like a different thing. Change to the weave and keep the energy.

7:42Ronnie Karam: You know what I mean?

7:45Ben Mandelker: She, she, I feel like we've never really seen the side of her where she basically was like, She came in authoritatively and was like, you are not allowed to do this at my table. Which may explain, because last night I definitely had a dream where I was at a party and there was a terrible gay there and he was being so mean to me. But I was like, I don't care about this guy. And I was sitting at a table with a bunch of people and they're like, you just have to get to know him. And I told him off in front of the entire table. I forget what I said. It was such a good, it was also such a good tell off.

8:14Ben Mandelker: I was like, I became Gina in my dream. And I was like, you know what? Go fuck yourself. I mean, it was more than that, because that's very basic. But it was so good. And I wonder, did Gina incept me? Should I be alarmed?

8:27Ronnie Karam: I'm over here like, was the terrible gaming? The dream?

8:31Ben Mandelker: No, no.

8:32Ronnie Karam: Because I dressed like I got told off by somebody at a dinner party. So I think I might have intercepted you.

8:39Ben Mandelker: No, this is like a floppy.

8:40Ronnie Karam: Like, Ben, you'll get used to him. You'll get used to him. I do a podcast with him every day for 13 years. I'm used to him.

8:48Ben Mandelker: I know this guy was like a floppy gay with like a scarf and was just like giving me evil eyes was just being so mean to me and then I was like you think I can't even do it in real life a floppy gay with a scarf it was terrible and I told him off I was like this is my table you came in here with your one eye closed and you're sloshed

9:14Ronnie Karam: you're being rude You're being rude right now, Tamara. Okay.

9:21Ben Mandelker: I also have to say, okay, listen, we talked about it. Gretchen Rossi, bad tweets, bad social media. I am compartmentalizing. I'm telling you this all right now. I'm compartmentalizing. You can come at me however you want. Gretchen was fucking great this episode, too. She was, too. You can come at me. I don't care because guess what? Gretchen is the one whose tweets we found. We all know half three quarters of the Real Housewives are not aligned. I will say they're not aligned with me politically. And I cannot go on a witch hunt every single time. I've just accepted it and I'm moving on. Gretchen was fucking great this episode and she had a moment which we're going to get to and you know the moment that it is that when she said that one thing I was watching, I literally went like this.

10:11Ronnie Karam: Yeah. Well listen, I've always said, Gretchen, if you come for Tamara as hard as you come for trans and gay rights, you're going to do well. And she did. She did.

10:26Ronnie Karam: She did. Also, there's a difference between disagreeing with someone politically and being pissed that someone is liking the hateful shit that she's liking. So, you know, I can disagree with people politically, but that's a little different.

10:39Ben Mandelker: I was saying it politely to be like, you know, these people so many of them have liked and supported um causes that um are in cross purposes to like um the rights that i support uh that people i believe yes so um i'm i'm accepting that but i'm also like like though i'm still embracing my entertainment i'm embracing my stories and um and well you listen even people we don't like can do well and i think it's important

11:12Ronnie Karam: to be able to when we do this show to be able to say even our favorites are wrong sometimes and even our villains are right sometimes and this time our villains were right i mean i was like yes matt go you go girls um so let's go matt go girl

11:35Ben Mandelker: you mad go girl

11:39Ronnie Karam: so here we go um we start at dinner at the end of dinner in new orleans the dinner where heather got uh coffee bukkake by joe the waiter and there was some ghost that was such a fun dinner wasn't it ladies that was very very fun i was like Sounds like is this some bourbon? Can I drink this street? Can I drink this street?

12:09Ben Mandelker: She's just up against the wall Just trying to drink the wall So they're walking down Bourbon Street Which you know Heather hates Because the truth is I think anyone over a certain age Maybe I'm going to say 24 Hates Bourbon Street And especially if you are Like a fancy schmancy person like Heather Dubrow, you are not into Bourbon Street. She's doing her like poor person, fun down for everything. I held pizza on the street once in New York persona. Oh, look at this. It's a hurricane. It's a beverage in a tall glass. This is hilarious. And you get to keep the glass as a souvenir. And when you go home, you can beat your maid with it.

12:53Ben Mandelker: Fun. Fun.

12:56Ronnie Karam: I was traumatized on Bourbon Street when we were in new orleans we were there at like three in the morning oh yeah people were so wasted including us when we'd been walking around and parading all day and we were with a group of friends and um we went to this place it was packed full of people i mean it really was biblical like it was just like biblical sodom and gomorrah i mean i don't know it was crazy it was like demons with drunk you know crazy demons everywhere is what i was seeing and this one guy uh was standing he was like obviously cracked out of his mind kind of dancing and he was like i miss my mom like he came right up to me when i miss my mom and just drunkenly i was like caller you know and he like came for me with his eyes satanic like raging at me he was like i was like a demon from hell and i barely got away i was traumatized i mean yeah and then they tried not to seat our party and then i let them have it i pulled the gina i was like you will not be rude to my party and then they sat us and everyone was like jesus you were so nice 15 minutes ago

14:05Ben Mandelker: i was like the crazy party did something to me that that um that guy who like went demonic on you he was actually on the news a few months ago um he was like i just saw heather de bro on bourbon street and i am traumatized heather actually scared everybody scary off bourbon street it's safe now guys it's totally safe for ronnie yeah no we went to that um we went to that restaurant i remember there was there was someone at our table who made a scene do you remember that me there was no it was a girl they're like they did not have a certain like they didn't have like a shrimp a shrimp and she was so mean to the waiter and i was really and there were drunk people yes it was something like that and there were drunk people everywhere it was chaotic it was so wild that's such a crazy night yeah it wasn't your friend it wasn't your friend by the way it was someone else entirely oh no that's like robin is that girl and she's so chill she would never she was great i loved her she was it wasn't her there was just some other person at our table.

15:13Ben Mandelker: I don't know how

15:13Ronnie Karam: we ended up with all these people because it was a parade day and Robin knows she lives there so she knows all these people. She was taking us like from house to house. Remember we were going like house party along the parade route so we got to go in all these cool New Orleans places looking over the parade route. We met all these crazy New Orleans people. Oh my god it was such an amazing night. And so we ended up with this big ragtag group at the end. We had no idea who anybody was.

15:38Ben Mandelker: Wandering the streets. We were basically like doing Heather Dubrow before Heather Dubrow is doing character to bro so um so heather's like just pretending like she's not absolutely repulsed by everything going on on the streets um and it's just like total chaos everywhere and then like some people wind up on a balcony so we have emily gina and tamra and and katie are on a balcony and this is like one of these things where we're seeing them do having activities but this is also a previously on the real housewives thing so there's like lots of flashbacks interspersed with their chatter.

16:10Ronnie Karam: Yeah, so Gina's like, so how are you feeling about Shannon? Because I feel like it's good. It's good. And Tamara's like, well, and then we see flashbacks of, you know, all this stuff. Like, how could Shannon throw away our friendship? And Shannon being like, just because I hug Tamara doesn't negate all of the attacks. And all this good stuff. And then we see the attacks, like Tamara calling Shannon an alcoholic and a drunk and a stupid person. And then we go back to the present and Emily's like, they're not good. They're just coexisting.

16:49Ben Mandelker: And Katie's saying how like, oh, well, Shannon just hates me now. So it's taking it off of you, Tamara. She's like, yeah. She does hate you. And then we see a flashback to the party where Shannon goes, how dare you record me? That girl is worse than Alexis Bellino. No, she is worse than Earl the Pearl, and he doesn't need to eat vegetables. Worse than Tamara Judge. Well, we are done. We are done.

17:12Ronnie Karam: Well, one thing I know about Shannon, she gets upset about something, and she'll hold on to it forever, forever, forever.

17:21Ben Mandelker: That's also because you tend to get in her ear and restoke the fires of her rage every single time.

17:29Ronnie Karam: I love that Tamara's like, oh my God, she got mad about one little thing, and she's still mad. You chased her around calling her a stupid drunk all season. You never let up all season. She's like, what? What happened to you? What are you mad at?

17:44Ben Mandelker: Tamara, who ridiculed Shannon to her face and called her an alcoholic a million times, is now like, whatever. And then meanwhile, it's like, Katie, you had an interaction with a blogger, which, by the way, I found out about by interacting with other bloggers. How dare you? Like, that's the thing that actually bothers her the most. Yeah. I just heard from some sources who type a lot on the internet.

18:13Ronnie Karam: Yeah, your sources are totally bloggers for sure. So, yeah, Emily's like, well, I don't like her dictating Jen's relationship with you. That's for sure, because Katie shouldn't have any say in that. And Tamara's like, yeah, I don't like that. No, she's not dictating Jen's relationship with anybody. Jen hates Tamara because Tamara is horrible to Jen and always has been and is currently passing around fatty photos, fatty photos, fatty photos. Fatty photos. Fatty photos. They're back. But they're so fat walking, they couldn't even print them. They needed to get a bigger printer. It's time for a commercial.

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21:06Ben Mandelker: And then we see a flashback of Shannon, Jen saying, well, Shannon told me you better not roll on me. And I said, well, I mean, why would I ever do that? I can just walk over you instead. And she said, no. I mean, that's a metaphor. And I said, I'm not following. so then um we go back to the present and gina's like you know what with gretchen at least like she seems like reasonable and like she wants to like move forward with you tamra and we see like a flashback of gretchen saying that she's been praying about it and she's been asking god to change her heart of the subject and god said new number who does yeah if you were really praying

21:46Ronnie Karam: and God was really listening right now, God would say, why are you wearing a bow in your head? You're 50. Take the bow out of your head. Okay, baby Jane, take it out of your head. You look like a baby trying to be Jackie Onassis and baby Jane at the same time. Stop it. Change.

22:01Ben Mandelker: God's like, if I wanted to have you have a change of heart about Tamara, I would have done it many years ago. I made you come back on this show for a reason. God's like, I got something to do on Thursdays at 8 o 'clock, so get to it. God does not lead people to go on Real Housewives. He just doesn't. I'm sorry. Did you say... Did you say God does not need people to go on Real Housewives?

22:26Ronnie Karam: He does not lead people. God's not like, you know, here's how you're going to fulfill my plan. Go on television with Bose. That'll stop everything bad in the world. You know?

22:36Ben Mandelker: No. No, God does not. Although, don't tell Whitney Rose that. Because you know who'd made the Real Housewives? The Lord did.

22:48Ronnie Karam: I can't. So Gina's like, yeah, she's reasonable. And yeah, Gretchen prayed. So then we see flashbacks between Tamara and Gretchen fighting. And Emily's like, well, you're working on yourself, Tamara. You're going to therapy. I mean, just prove for people that you can be different. That's all you really need. Oh, my God. Look what I've got in my purse. A beignet. This is hilarious, America.

23:13Ben Mandelker: so now we're in the hotel and Gina there's a train going by and Gina's like hi she's waving to the train which I don't know I feel like there's a metaphor in there somewhere like Gina just like waving at some inanimate object barreling beyond her Gina's like guys I heard about

23:31Ronnie Karam: a puppy parade it's basically something we should get involved in because it's like a parade that's full of dogs that Dorit had returned to a kill shelter

23:43Ben Mandelker: yeah it's a puppy parade and then we um there's someone in robin on the phone uh or barkis the organization is called barkis um which reminds me a lot of the workus twins um it's like imagine a workus parade but they're dogs it's on the dogs

24:08Ben Mandelker: so this lady is like we're not just a puppy parade we're one of the biggest dog parades on earth i'm like okay robin okay rob okay relax robin okay sorry to offend you she needs a little bit of a hobby here we're not just a puppy parade we're a lifestyle isle we are the not only just a puppy parade not even just a dog parade we are the biggest parade in america okay robin you just need to settle down here okay robin's really into that puppy

24:43Ronnie Karam: parade and emily's like well i have three dogs i should be in a puppy parade we want to do it and robin's like we would love to have you welcome the biggest parade in the world with really no criteria to reach to be in the parade. Just call us on a random parade day and join us. Yeah.

25:05Ben Mandelker: So then Jen, Gina, and Gretchen and Heather get on a trolley and they're just loving it. And Heather's like, so where are we going? Also, does anyone know, does this trolley have another level up maybe with bar service? Just wanted to know. No. Okay.

25:19Ronnie Karam: Is there service on this trolley? Because mama could use a little drink. We're gonna go to the French market. And then there's a dog parade. And so Gina decided that today is the day that she wants to have some fun. Because, you know, every other day in vacation, you plan to be utter hell. And so she's strategically chosen to have my very mentally tough friend, Emily, take one for the team and go with the troublemakers.

25:49Ben Mandelker: I'm going to have a little fun at lunch, and I'll see you at dinner, bitches. Good luck. so the troublemakers are katie tamra and shannon um also known as the people that are the most entertaining on the show i'd like to add and then um well maybe not i sent all the ratings to the other trolley yeah exactly so then um they're in a car and they're talking about i guess last night and tamra's like shannon honey breezes from falling off the cock and we see that last night they were riding a mechanical bull and it was the bull was called a cock which doesn't really make sense because cocks are roosters but maybe it was a mechanical rooster that they she fell off of i don't know but they're very excited to say cock a bunch of times i looked up bull cock and it says

26:40Ronnie Karam: bull penis walking canes so i don't know that's something you can buy guys i tried bull's penis so you don't have to. Oh, actually, that's on Real Housewives of Miami, I think. They actually do that. Bull penis canes. So there's a cane that's shaped like a bull penis that you could buy. So that's something. So I'd like to thank Shannon for bringing that into my life. But yeah, Shannon falls off. And then we see Katie alone in a car, which I feel like is going to be the rest of Katie's season, talking to Matt on the phone. And she's like, so I just headed out with Shannon. Like, I mean, we're supposed to go to Cafe Du Monde.

27:17Ronnie Karam: and Shannon walked in and she's like, I'm not going if she's going. And so we see this happen. And Shannon's like, I'm not comfortable right now and I will not be around you and I'm not going if Katie's going. I don't care if there are donuts. I'll go somewhere. Wait, donuts, you're right. Okay, Katie, you're going somewhere else. Okay, you're not coming to the donut.

27:38Ben Mandelker: Okay, I would like to take a vote on whether or not Katie should come with us. If all in favor, say Ben Ye. And all again, say Ben Nay. Okay, Ben Ye's win. Katie, you're out. So I love that. Like, God forbid that Shannon like eats a small fried square of bread with powdered sugar in the presence of Katie. She's like, I do not feel comfortable whatsoever because she may record me with powdered sugar all over my face. And that would be mortifying. So Katie's like, whatever.

28:07Ronnie Karam: I don't need to get this beignet here. Yeah. She's like, I wasn't going to eat that anyway. So you've got Shannon who refuses to talk to Katie for recording her. but Shannon's totally fine with hanging out with Tamra who told every blogger on earth about Shannon being an alcoholic and then got a let and then threatened, um, pictures from Alexis's Bellino's phone against, I mean, I don't know. Shannon's, Shannon's priorities are a little odd. I have to say.

28:40Ben Mandelker: So Katie's basically telling Matt, like, whatever, I'm going to go with the other group of girls. And she's like, and Katie even says basically what you just said. She goes, I mean, you've been around Alexis who is suing you with her boyfriend for$75 ,000 and I can't eat a goddamn beignet with you? Give me a break. So then we go back to the trolley and Jen's asking Gretchen, everyone, how they felt about last night and Gina's like, you know, it was so good to have a night where it was like fun, but like, you know, like I spent a lot of time hearing your frustrations, Jen, like and now your frustrations and everything, Gretchen, like are we ever gonna to address any of those things you know yeah because gina is gonna make sure while she's

29:20Ronnie Karam: saying she wants to have the fun bus for the day she's also like but you're still gonna fight with tamra later right okay we've all got that we're that's still on the agenda right and heather says well you know tamra said you know were you not in the room when she said she really wanted to talk to you i mean tamra is trying tamra is a good person now oh just i know tamra's been terrible I know, but underneath it all, she's a good, good toaster. And then we see a flashback to Emily saying they need to have a sit down. And Tamara's saying, okay. That's all it was. Yeah. For Tamara being a good person.

30:00Ben Mandelker: Tamara can't wait to make up with you. Everything is water under the bridge. 12 years ago, she said, I cannot wait to make up with Gretchen. And then the flashback. Do you want to meet up with Gretchen? Okay. Yeah. So understated.

30:16Ronnie Karam: You have to be friends with her now because she's in a very emotional state because of Toddy. Okay. Who's that?

30:25Ben Mandelker: Toddy? I'm not worried.

30:26Ronnie Karam: Toddy, her little friend that she does the radio cast thing with on the YouTubes.

30:31Ben Mandelker: You mean Teddy? Teddy Mellencamp?

30:33Ronnie Karam: I don't know who you're talking about. She's a lady. I think she hurt her ankle or something. Tamara's very upset about it. something about trying to go up some stairs. I don't know.

30:45Ben Mandelker: I don't know who this woman is, but I did get her address, and I sent her a bowl, and I said, here, you can send this to Nobu and see what it feels like to be a wealthy person. Enjoy.

30:57Ronnie Karam: I don't know who she is. Sounds poor. Can Tamara catch a break, guys? So Gina's like, well, I mean, it seems like a good opportunity to make some progress. So Gretchen's like, well, I'm trying to be optimistic about a possible reconciliation with Tamara. But the Bible is very clear because there's a commandment to forgive. So basically, this is a biblical moment I'm going to have with Tamara. Oh, God, you are so phony with your fucking Bible every two seconds. Give me a break. You married Slade, first of all, who was terrible. And speaking of people being right, you know, terrible people being right.

31:41Ronnie Karam: Tamara wasn't really completely wrong about you and Slade. So I don't want to really hear about all of that when you have that history with Slade and his son, ma 'am. Keep it to yourself.

31:52Ben Mandelker: So the trolley arrives at the French market and Heather's like, ooh, should we get a drink? Look, there's maids everywhere to bring us something. It's like, those are people shopping at the market. I'm not sure I understand. People voluntarily go and just shop for the groceries for their employees, employers. I was hoping that this is where I could purchase some French people.

32:12Ronnie Karam: They're very, very good at setting out cutlery.

32:16Ben Mandelker: So Gina wants to get a strawberry smoothie, and Heather's like, ooh, with no booze. So a virgin strawberry smoothie, and also two almond breezes, garçon. We are some wacky ladies, are we not? I love being young, hip, and very carefree.

32:35Ronnie Karam: yeah i feel like it would be sacrilegious not to eat a beignet anymore so we're gonna do that so they order some beignets and then um gina is gina says i could not be happier that tamara's not here to catch me in my fatty photo i'll just take all the beignets you got back there so then we go to tamara and she's walking with shannon and emily and tamara's like whoa right there right there that's where teddy and i sat right at that table oh i know this was like four

33:08Ben Mandelker: weeks ago so she's like oh my god last time i was at cafe du monde it was probably four weeks ago i was here with bronwyn and teddy which i did not realize about the bra that bronwyn was also in the mix in in these trauma flashbacks and she's like which one was it it was i think it was bronwyn Bronwyn Burke or Bronwyn Windham or whatever Bronwyn's name is these days. I think it was her. Look at Bronwyn. Never forget, she was always an ardent Tamara defender. We saw it with our eyes. So Tamara's saying that right there, they were eating beignets. And then after that, that's when Teddy found out about her cancer.

33:49Ben Mandelker: So it's a bittersweet feeling for her because it's like the last sort of moment of innocence, I guess you could say. So Tamara orders some beignets and then they go off and they eat. Well, now she, Emily, and Shannon go off to eat their beignets on a bench. So that means that Emily gets to be wacky. She's like, oh my God, I've got sugar all over me. Isn't this crazy? And she's shaking and like, oh, sugar.

34:18Ronnie Karam: I'm really done. So wait, they all just went to Cafe Du Monde? Why'd they all have to go separate?

34:24Ben Mandelker: No. the French market people went and got beignets at the French market oh come on keep your food separate

34:31Ronnie Karam: like if you're going to go to separate places get separate things because it confuses me in my head yeah

34:37Ben Mandelker: because it's like a lot of beignets it's a lot of beignets I feel bad because we could have all gone as a group to beignets and we did I feel bad

34:47Ronnie Karam: look at me now I'm covered in sugar she shakes and like pig pen and just like dusts of sugar come off of her. And Tamara's just looking at her like, disgusting, it's snowing over here. So then with Shannon - Jax's bedroom. Say it again. So it's like Jax's bedroom. Yeah, it's like Ally Sheedy shaking off her head in Breakfast Club and all the dandruff falls off. It's the snow in the picture. So Shannon's like, I mean, what am I going to do with Katie? What am I going to do? and Emily says you know just be indifferent but she irritates me and they all laugh at her and then meanwhile with the other girl Heather's like do you think you and Torkis will get married Gina Travis?

35:36Ronnie Karam: Who? My boyfriend Travis Don't know him Do you think you'll marry that poor hairy person that you're living with in Squalor

35:46Ben Mandelker: I don't know I mean everyone keeps asking me that and I just like don't know. Do people keep asking you that? Do they? Anyway, do you need to get married? I might. I mean. And Heather's like, is it important to the kids? Because if it's not important, would they be interested in, I don't know, a role in the Dubrow estate? I don't know, washing silverware or doorknobs? Do they have to be available for your wedding?

36:14Ronnie Karam: What about you, Jen? And Jen's like, I feel like kind of like you. Like, I just, I don't know if I, if I would have to be married again, but I think it's more for the kids and for Ryan, just because he wants to jerk off to me in a wedding bikini. Something I might do.

36:30Ben Mandelker: Who's, who's kids would this be for? My kids. You have children? Yeah. Like when you say that, do you mean like doggy children or like houseplants? Oh, I've got like six children. Hmm. I'm not sure I follow. You have children? Yeah.

36:49Ronnie Karam: how did you afford that that's crazy so Jen is going through her thing like oh my god what if I get married and it doesn't work out I mean oh god thank god I'm married to someone completely stable like a fuckboy who's next door to Jack Tripper seems certainly ready to settle down what could go wrong

37:15Ben Mandelker: so then Katie shows up and Gina's like, where did you come from? She's like, damn it. I don't want Katie here. And Katie's like, well, I was supposed to go eat beignets at Cafe Du Monde. And then Shannon said, I'm not going if she's going and I feel safe around her. I don't feel safe around her. So I was like, well, I don't need to go. It's okay. You guys can go. And it's by the way, Ronnie reading this back, I was like, you know, it was sort of surprising to me because it felt like at, at the end of this episode, it felt like everyone turned against Tamara. And it was sort of surprising to me because it seemed like all season, everyone was very pro Katie.

37:47Ben Mandelker: I'm sorry, anti-KD and pro-Tamra. And it's been frustrating. I was surprised that there was this pivot. And I'm realizing, oh, here's why there was the pivot. Because Tamra essentially indirectly did not stop. They're blaming Tamra for having KD come over to ruin their side of the trip. Like, wait a second. We're not supposed to have KD. This is Tamra's fault. Tamra could have shut this down as she did it. Down with Tamra.

38:13Ronnie Karam: well they also made the mistake of you know Tamra made the mistake of sending Katie over to the letting Katie go over to the enemy side where she could you know cavort with them before dinner and like lay the groundwork of how terrible Tamra is which no one really needs to lay that groundwork because Tamra is terrible but also Tamra just showing up wasted and Tamra getting caught yet again in some bullshit that everybody knows is just Tamra bullshit did not help her You know, Tamara really got herself fucked over in this.

38:45Ben Mandelker: She really, it was amazing. So Katie is there and Heather goes, so they all just got up and left you by yourself. Are we allowed to do that? We can do that. I've spent three seasons and I could have done this to Gina all this time.

39:00Ronnie Karam: Let's do it right now. Okay.

39:06Ronnie Karam: Let's try it.

39:07Ben Mandelker: When my authentic praline arrives, just have them send it to the hotel. I'm leaving right now.

39:13Ronnie Karam: But this is ridiculous. I mean, Shannon has the right to be pissed, but Shannon's coexisting in this trip with Tamara. Tamara, the worst person on the planet. So what is she thinking? And Shannon is telling us, oh, really? Really? There is no comparison between that one and this one. Come on.

39:32Ben Mandelker: I mean, can't you just coexist with Kitty for the sake of the trip? I mean, that is. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. That is not going to happen, America.

39:40Ronnie Karam: So now it's time to shop. Let's go shopping. One group goes shopping, and Emily is still on the bench talking to the girls. And she talks about how she saw Jen the other day, and we went horseback riding. And she told me that you, Shannon, keep telling her, don't roll on me. Don't roll on me. Like, roll on Tamara. And Shannon's like, don't roll. Roll on me. Roll on me. Hey, don't roll on me. Don't roll on me, bro.

40:08Ben Mandelker: I was merely quoting my favorite singer, Steve Winwood. Roll with it, baby. Ba-do-ba-doop. Right? Anyone? No? So Shannon's like... I was saying, don't take the roll from me. Do not take the last roll.

40:23Ronnie Karam: That is my roll.

40:25Ben Mandelker: I was merely saying, I have some Rolos, and please don't take them. Okay? They're a lovely snack.

40:31Ronnie Karam: Wait a minute, like you're trying to get people to turn on me. Is that what you're saying? And Shannon's like, what? I would never say something like that. Well, she meant don't fuck me over and go make up with Tamara is what she meant. Oh, wait, Shannon, she never said that? Shannon's like, oh, well, I've talked to her about my relationship with you. And what happened between us last year, I don't think I will ever forget. I will never, ever forget that thing that happened that time. I don't remember it right now, but it was horrible. And it was a lot for me. I was at a very low point. I had just been assaulted by a house.

41:05Ronnie Karam: A house. How dare you? How dare you?

41:08Ben Mandelker: I will never forget what you did to me, Tamara. Never for the rest of the days that I'm alive. I will never forget, which is why I am 100 % on your side today.

41:18Ronnie Karam: So, Tamara's like... I was at a very low point. And two of you at one time called me a drunk. There's only one of me, Shannon. Well, there were two that day.

41:31Ben Mandelker: I was like, well, I can tell you I understand how you feel that way. And that's why I don't really drink that much anymore myself. And Tamara says, yeah, here comes Tamara's storyline. I've learned that alcohol is not really good for me. It's really, alcohol is very difficult when you're on the spectrum. And having one drink, okay. But if I go past that, that's when it gets nasty and dirty. And I say things that I don't mean. And my goal is to have conversations with people with no alcohol in me, bitch.

42:02Ronnie Karam: She goes, you won't see me wasted ever. Ever. You're never going to see me wasted again, everybody. That's it. Me, Tamara Barney. Sober kind of person in New Orleans. The best place to go sober suddenly. And Shannon's like, well, you know, I did have a good time last night getting fucked up with you. She's like, well, can't you let it go, Shannon? We have a 10-year friendship. A 10-year friendship. And we know what Tamara's doing. This is what Tamara does every time she's rallying the troops to come stick it to somebody. You know, she suddenly starts coming up to people like, why are we friends?

42:36Ronnie Karam: I just don't understand it. We've always been such good friends. Okay, now go start Katie on fire. It's a match.

42:43Ben Mandelker: You know, I just, Tamara, I just, I just can't jump back in. I can't. I cannot jump back in, Tamara. I can't do it.

42:55Ronnie Karam: But she does immediately. Because Shannon's a wuss, and she does it every damn year.

43:00Ben Mandelker: Like, right at that moment, she jumps back in, and she says, I don't like fighting, but I'm not going to roll over either. Or roll on it, as Gen Z says.

43:10Ronnie Karam: I will not be hurt by you again. Are you bathing my hair? Yes, I do. Such lovely hair. I love you. I really do. I love you. I miss you so much. And you're such a good friend, too. I'm such a good friend, too.

43:33Ben Mandelker: I know it's so obvious. I'm hopeful that Tamara's apology is authentic and we're not screaming at each other. We're coexisting and let's just, let's just sit with that. Also, when I was sitting with that, I accidentally sat on my beignet. So does anyone have an extra one? Just curious. Yes. Commercials.

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46:01Ronnie Karam: So the other girls are shopping around and Katie's like, that's what we need. Look, there's sage. And Heather's like, um, a child holding sage. All right, put the child in the back trunk of the Uber. You know what? They're easier to train when their brains are still stretchy.

46:20Ben Mandelker: Oh, my God. Sage. Finally, I can put my maid in this. What? Oh, you said Sage. I thought you said cage. Never mind.

46:32Ronnie Karam: And Gina's like, oh, my God. It's a snow globe. I can get it for my daughter. Who buys a snow globe on vacation? like especially with a real housewife suitcase packed full of shit you can't just put snow globes full of water in suitcases are they even allowing that now like why can't i bring toothpaste onto a goddamn plane but you can carry around a snow globe full of what looks like drugs

46:57Ben Mandelker: i feel like a snow globe is a double infraction it's a triple infraction it looks like drugs uh there's i'm sure more than 2.5 ounces of liquid and on top of that you could crack that open and become sharp glass and a weapon. So down with snow globes on a plane.

47:15Ronnie Karam: So then we see a flashback of Gina telling Gretchen and Jen about Tamara talking about a former fatty photo. So it's fatty photo time, guys. And Jen's like, oh my god, this is driving me nuts in the trolley. I just felt like, you know, Heather's trying to stand up for Tamara, like trying to diffuse the situation. And we see a flashback and Jen saying, well, if someone came up to me and called me a single white female. She didn't call you a single white female to me. Anyway, that movie starred Bridget Fonda, who was thin and gorgeous. Can't we just take the gifts where they come?

47:51Ben Mandelker: And then we see a flash. Heather's like, she never said to me that you're a single white female. And then we got a flashback within the flashback. You know what? I call her a single white female. She seems like a single white female to me, bitch.

48:08Ronnie Karam: Well, whatever the picture is, I guarantee you That was a time in my life where I was home raising my family And I was not focused on myself I wasn't focused on what I wore I wasn't focused on a fucking gym So she should probably take a playbook out of mine And take a note out of my playbook, was what I meant And fucking raise her family This whole, like, dumbing it down to make it seem like it wasn't that bad is bullshit And I can't actually wait to see this picture I cannot wait to see this picture this fatty fatty photo give me a fatty photo i will live it i will be on the cover of good housekeeping fatty photo all you want i'm not ashamed of anything show me as a size four i

48:46Ben Mandelker: dare you tamra so what so what i was three pounds heavier at one point in my life wearing a flouncy dress i don't care put me on walrus fancy i'm proud of it it's like it's such they keep showing the photo first of all i love how she is actually like it this photo is plaguing her because i think she think there must be some there's something she's like she's trying to act like she's owning it but she's also i think embarrassed and she i think she has this in her imagination some photo where she's like a balloon or something like that and they keep showing the photo and she looks completely normal and it's just so funny oh she's like i can't like she's bringing up to every she's like obsessed now like everywhere she goes she's like sir have you seen my former fatty photo ma 'am have you seen my former fatty photo i need to see this thing i need to find it yeah it's ridiculous she's like well i hope she doesn't show the clip that she's been showing

49:44Ronnie Karam: this is leonardo scapia when jen was raising him terribly look at everything she put into you it's like uh that's what's eating gilbert grape could we please not get that into the conversation

49:55Ben Mandelker: time so now uh tamra emily and shannon are in a car talking about going into a parade uh the doggy parade and the other car had the other women are are riding along and heather's like oh my god gina you are shedding all over me oh my god sorry it's my coat no your poorness i feel it shedding

50:17Ronnie Karam: on me and i'm very uncomfortable i feel the chill of coupons next to me can somebody get me a sweater

50:26Ben Mandelker: I'm starting to be able to smell things like penny savers I need to get out of this car

50:32Ronnie Karam: Well it means a lot to me to be part of the Barkus Parade Which brings awareness to adopting dogs Dogs that don't eat french fries because they're terrified of them I feel like having a dog around helps me feel normal They're therapy I can't imagine life without dogs Which is why I've got a hot dog in my purse everybody

50:53Ben Mandelker: how does anything the dog feels emma's like having a dog around me makes me feel normal the dogs are like get me out of this hell house

51:04Ronnie Karam: so everybody talks about how they love dogs and um then we get to rescuing and shannon's like well i think that it's great that our group can go out and support rescuing animals i wouldn't do it but people do apparently so do you use dogs i mean if we didn't have if we didn't have rescues if

51:23Ben Mandelker: we didn't believe in rescues gina and emily wouldn't be here so uh then we find out that gina actually has two non-rescues she's like sorry you know i think that adopting animals is great i do and i fully support it i just have like two very fancy doodles i'm like what are you gonna do I can't save everybody. You've literally saved nobody, actually. Just save something. Something. A can. A diet Coke can and recycle it. Save something.

51:52Ronnie Karam: Yeah. And what's the point of buying two dogs that are so expensive just to sharpie on them,

51:59Ben Mandelker: like doodle on the side of their fur? Why buy such expensive dogs just to put them in a stupid house? Put them in the bro's mansion. no that argument had no logic I thought I was going somewhere with it

52:15Ronnie Karam: I did rescue a condom so

52:21Ronnie Karam: well I did

52:22Ben Mandelker: buy some clearance items from Marshall does that count as rescuing

52:27Ronnie Karam: I rescued Archie from the four seasons so

52:34Ben Mandelker: speaking of which would anyone mind if I added four seasonings to my beignet right now I am just starving so uh I got my coffee so uh

52:50Ben Mandelker: so now they're marching in this parade which looks actually really fun and um Emily's like hi everybody thanks for coming out to support Parkus all of us have rescue dogs except for Gina here's photos of mine I just was like waiting for someone to throw an egg at her like boo get off the stage we want to watch the parade yeah

53:10Ronnie Karam: Yeah. And how did she just call to be part of this parade? But now she's like speaking for the whole parade, you know, and it's like, oh, look, everybody is two of mine. And Robin's like, and how important are they in your life? It's like more important than my husband. Shane falls asleep on the couch the majority of the time. Togo sleeps in the bed next to me. It's also a sandwich chain. And we spoon. I mean, my dogs are my soulmates. Well, this was fun, and by fun, I mean, why are we doing free things on the street, Gina? Is there anything else to do? And it's like, guys, I wanted to have a really fun day, so I found a restaurant that's going to let us pass out flyers with discounts on them.

53:55Ben Mandelker: Guys, we're going to go see the voodoo queen, Bloody Mary. Oh, about time we got a cocktail around here. No, that's her name, Bloody Mary. So they go to this woman, another Ronnie Karam classic. Totally. She's like, welcome. I am Bloody Mary.

54:12Ronnie Karam: Welcome to my voodoo shop. May the spirits will come and say hello. And if you turn around, there's a voodoo baba. This lady is terrifying. Is Bruce Valanche playing this lady? She's like the mom from Hairspray.

54:27Ben Mandelker: It was like Bruce Valanche meets Grace Under Fire. so it was whatever her name was again I forgot but she was but she was like very animated like she clearly has a stick that she does where she tries to like scare people but also be like funny and fun so okay all right we teach you how to feed the dolls and we tell them what to do and where who they are but everything that you do to the doll do it with intention it could be the man or woman that you're trying to lure into your life like Travis who who is this try this person that people keep talking about you trust some we bless them

55:07Ronnie Karam: well i feel like uh shannon's exhausted all other options of getting a man so why not try voodoo

55:12Ben Mandelker: oh please you met your man your man on gchat i know the least the least romantic

55:21Ronnie Karam: of all the messaging services you weren't even dating your man and your man was like well we're both single i guess we should get married and you said okay like that's you have the least romantic story out of anybody on housewives please save it at least shannon's out there trying

55:38Ben Mandelker: yeah um so mary's like now everyone voodoo is not to harm each other okay but try to get what you want out of it so it's not evil no she goes humans are evil i'm in a bigger area okay everyone go in the courtyard i love that she's like voodoo's not evil you all are the problem we are the

55:54Ronnie Karam: problem the dolls are scared of you the dolls asked me to put a couple of pins in you okay oh

56:02Ben Mandelker: hello television actress has a question for merit bloody man yeah what do you mean honey do you have any voodoo dolls that have a resemblance of wendy malik is that a silly question because she does sort of look like a voodoo doll on her own do you know what i'm saying

56:16Ronnie Karam: i'm so sorry man but we're not allowed to make voodoo dolls actually working in high quality networks at the moment. Damn it! Woman's really pressing my buttons! Wait.

56:28Ben Mandelker: Is this true? Wendy Malick is working on a prestige program right now?

56:34Ronnie Karam: What sort of voodoo is this? Yeah, with Harrison Ford. With Harrison Ford, I mean, she's winning!

56:39Ben Mandelker: Wendy Malick, the opposite of a voodoo doll. Someone get Eric Stoltz on the phone. We need to do prestige together.

56:48Ronnie Karam: You want to work like Wendy Malick, you're gonna

56:50Ben Mandelker: need a few more pricks in you honey get over here terry terry call the agents tell them we need to find any a-list actor over a certain age to be in some tv show on some program preferably on the hg network get do this right now terry let them know that i know josh flag um years ago when we first

57:14Ronnie Karam: started doing live shows people would bring us like gifts and stuff and we got i got a gift i I don't know what you got that year. She gave you something too. But she gave me a, I don't remember, but she gave me a voodoo doll of Tamra. It's a Tamra voodoo doll. And it even came with like little pins. It's like this little doll that had Tamra's face printed on it. I still have that in my closet. And I have it in my closet in Texas because I don't want to leave it out because it just seems so weird. Like who would keep a voodoo doll of Tamra? It's just bizarre, but I had to keep it. I couldn't get rid of it.

57:46Ronnie Karam: So it's back there. I still have one.

57:48Ben Mandelker: This is the difference between the Ronnie people and the Ben people. Because you get voodoo dolls and people are like, Ben, I made you something that you could put on your sewing machine. It's like, here's something to keep your fabric aligned. And for you, it was like, voodoo doll for Tamara. I love it. It's one of the best things I ever got. That's great. I'm going to be buried with it. um and that's no shade obviously to our listeners i just think it's really funny like what comes down what comes down the way for both of us um so then we go to shannon gretchen

58:27Ronnie Karam: and tamra and um mary's like uh so are you are you onlookers and not participants is that it okay there's no such thing as an observer and that goes for all of you so once you're an observer You're an observer participant, okay? So you're part of this. So you can pretend you're not part of this, but you're part of this, okay, lady with the ribbon in your hair? I'm looking at you, okay? I'm looking at you, pencil with eyes. And Gretchen's like, okay, well, then I'm going to leave. And she says she's leaving because it's spooky, but we know she's leaving because she thinks it's satanic. Yeah.

59:01Ben Mandelker: She's like, voodoo? I don't like voodoo. Okay, sure. so I also think it's funny that this lady is like the ambassador for voodoo isn't voodoo born out of Africa and Haiti and you have this old white lady be like let me tell you about voodoo it's sort of a funny funny ambassador so Tamara is but listen I love Bloody Mary she can be on the show any episode that I want any episode any day I should say so Tamara's like I don't have enough problems right now I don't need any bad spirits I'm like, you are the bad spirit. You are the voodoo spirit. You are the pin that goes into the doll.

59:42Ronnie Karam: Yes, you're the one that's infusing all those dolls. You're like the fucking spirit stone. What does he collect on the, what are the stones? You're like an infinity stone of evil. Like you're going to bring all of these things to life, you know? Well, what is a voodoo doll going to do? I saw the Brady Bunch. I don't know what that means. Was there a voodoo episode of the Brady Bunch?

1:00:03Ben Mandelker: There must have been. my first my first uh exposure to voodoo i think was like indiana jones and the temple of dune doom doom temple of dune temple of dune he's like we're gonna find the spice guys

1:00:21Ben Mandelker: and wasn't there like a kid who like like a young prince in there or some who was doing voodoo on people and people like ah and i was like i love it i want to do that to all my enemies as a child. I was like, sign me up for voodoo. Wouldn't it be so easy?

1:00:33Ronnie Karam: Yeah, just to torture people with a little doll. But she's reframing voodoo as like a goal-setting thing. She's like, here's what voodoo is. Positive affirmations. No, that's not what voodoo is. Like, you need to steal someone's hair, glue it on something, stick them with a pin, and then watch them have a headache. You know, that's what voodoo is. That's what I've learned from movies. I didn't know voodoo was like, oh, wow, you get a doll and you tell it that you hope it gets a man. You know?

1:00:58Ben Mandelker: You know, I don't know how you do the voodoo that you do, but what a man.

1:01:06Ben Mandelker: So Gina is like, so they walk out. Basically, Shannon, Tamara and Gretchen walk out, which is funny. And Gina's like, that's an interesting throuple to walk out. And she's not wrong. It is sort of hilarious. These like legacy members of the show, legacy blondes are exiting stage left because they don't.

1:01:26Ronnie Karam: Tamara's like, people have cheeses. come outside. We're not going to have any part of this.

1:01:33Ben Mandelker: Not going to have any part of it. I wouldn't say that I love Jesus, but I do believe that there is a beignet vendor out there, so

1:01:39Ronnie Karam: I will join you. I figured as long as we're having positive affirmations, I'm giving this doll a donut. Look, it worked.

1:01:53Ben Mandelker: Shanna just voodooed herself to have a donut.

1:01:58Ben Mandelker: Well, everyone, it's not my fault I had the donut. Unfortunately, the doll made me do it. So, who does the doll want another donut? I guess so. The doll can't control herself. Have another donut doll. Please don't take a photo of that doll.

1:02:11Ronnie Karam: A fatty photo of a voodoo doll. So, Gina's like, what do you think they're talking about? Well, I mean, I'll tell you, earlier today, Shannon and Tamara basically made up, and I just sat between them. I mean, they're not going to be best friends and braid each other's hair and spend the night in each other's room. but it was a step forward. And Jen's like, listen, I want Shannon to do whatever she needs to do with Tamara, but Shannon, who's rolling on who now? Who's rolling on who now, Shannon?

1:02:39Ben Mandelker: It's true. So Gina's like, all right, well, one person made up with Tamara. That's pretty good. So then Tamara, the trio are outside, and Tamara's like, are they making food dolls about us? Would that be funny? And Shannon's like, well, unfortunately, I do think that they are because I am feeling very compelled to go over to this Ben Yeh vendor again. It's not my fault. I swear to God. They're doing voodoo on me.

1:03:03Ronnie Karam: Quite literally. They're going to be possessed. Yeah, I'm pretty sure Jen's voodoo doll was like, oh, let's make her look like Tamra. And Jen's saying, yeah, well, if Tamra was to be making a voodoo doll of me, it would be like, my hair's longer. Yeah, I'll use hair extensions for it. Jen's ugly. Yeah, I'll use a plastic surgeon. Jen's fat. Yeah, and I'm going to do fearless videos so I can be like Tamra.

1:03:30Ben Mandelker: Tamara's even mad about like the voodoo dolls copying her so Shannon's like so what happened when Katie went over to your side at the French market tell me everything spill the deets girlfriend and Fretchen's like oh when she came up mad with us um well she just said that like you said that she's a criminal and that you don't want to be anywhere What? What? I never said the word criminal. I said she does illegal things and should be in jail because that is in her nature and that is her station in life as someone who does illegal things. I never said she was a criminal.

1:04:05Ronnie Karam: I just said she should be taken care of by the criminal court justice system. And the criminal jorts system. Also, the jorts are criminal. Jorts are criminal.

1:04:18Ben Mandelker: We know that that was some voodoo.

1:04:20Ronnie Karam: Whoever invented those was under the spell of voodoo. Jorts. Well, I said, you committed an illegal act. And I have said my piece with you. And there's not one fucking word that you can say to me that will change my mind. She recorded me. And that is against the law. And Gretchen goes, oh, we're back to that. Well, I like Katie. And, you know, listen, in fairness, Shannon, you got a DUI and that's illegal, too. And she's like, oh. Oh,

1:04:49Ben Mandelker: she. just shut Shannon up right with that. That came so out of left field to me. I was not expecting Gretchen just to just do that. And it was so good. I mean, cause Shannon like, do you wanna be friends with people who commit legal acts? Well, you committed a DY, which is way worse. You could've killed someone. She literally shut Shannon up.

1:05:09Ronnie Karam: I mean, Shannon was just like, I like, boop, boop, boop. She shut me up. I mean, I literally, I went,

1:05:16Ben Mandelker: oh, oh, oh.

1:05:19Ronnie Karam: Oh, shit, shots are fired I mean, that's the first thing I ever agreed with Gretchen on And so Gretchen's like, well, what do you think of the situation, Tamara? She's like, well, I think maybe you give her another chance and she fucks up again, you know Okay, well, says the girl who, where she just went and tried to get a story reported about you She had a meeting with a woman

1:05:40Ben Mandelker: A woman! Can you believe it? Of all the genders to meet with, she met with a woman So Gretchen is like, who's that? And Tamara's like, Kiki Monique, I don't even want to say it, because it's so disgusting. Oh, God, that she met with Kiki Monique. So then Tamara's like, I was worried about this story before we started filming. Somebody in the press reached out to me to let me know that Katie had lunch with a blogger. Can you believe it that I had to hear from a blogger that Katie has been meeting with bloggers? Awful. Just awful.

1:06:12Ronnie Karam: Her name is Kiki Monique, and she said some pretty horrific things about me. Okay, fine. But did Kiki Monique repeat the things that she said? No. So why are you dragging her into it? I mean, Kiki Monique's always been so nice to people, I think. Right? I mean, of course, we're friends with her. We like Kiki Monique, you know? So, I mean, maybe I'm not being, like, fair or whatever, but I've never heard her say anything evil. I've always thought she was very nice.

1:06:41Ben Mandelker: Kiki is great. We don't have to be fair. We're not the New York Times. We're not like reporting on the news. We can be biased. But also, I just can't take seriously a situation where you're mad at someone for talking to bloggers and the way you found out is because you talked to two separate bloggers about it. So Tamara's like, she's like, I told you, Katie said that you told her that I roofied you. I had to rewind that three times so I could follow it. Okay. Tamara found out from someone who heard that Katie told Kiki, that Gretchen told Katie, that Tamara roofied Gretchen. I was like, let me process this.

1:07:17Ben Mandelker: I'm like, I'm reading Thomas Pinchin right now. This is like so labyrinthine. You should have been reading Bronson Pinchel.

1:07:29Ben Mandelker: you are ridiculous if you want to be really smart you are ridiculous come on don't be ridiculous don't be ridiculous not you are that's the shannon version you are ridiculous that's a classic bronce of pincho um don't make me get all belky on you

1:07:46Ronnie Karam: i will do it belky bartakamos congratulations you've reached the end of part one of a two part recap for part two Go look for the recap that says part two. See you over there, suckers.

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1:12:17Ronnie Karam: I mean, I just have. It is delicious. Caesar sauce is like a Parmesan, garlicky blend with some lemon in it. And you can dip anything in there.

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1:12:40Ronnie Karam: Listen, I say if you put Caesar sauce on something, that automatically makes it better. Yes, that's really all you need is the Caesar sauce.

1:12:47Ben Mandelker: I think I just want to have just a constant supply of Caesar sauce and put it on things at all times.

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