#2971 RHOC S19E06 Part 2: New OLA, Old Tricks

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1:48Ben Mandelker: Happens when there's so much that happens Hi everyone, welcome back. This is part two of a two-part recap. If you're wondering where part one was, well go check in the feed and be sure to subscribe. That way you always get your episodes. But enough of that, let's get right back into the episode. I do remember as a kid asking my parents if we could ever go to Meepo's. I was like, can we go to Meepo's? And my mom was like, where's that? I was like, that's where Belki is from. My mom was like, who? basically you know I think my mom's Heather Dubrow guys let's just let's just face it I am not familiar Balky sounds poor no we cannot is he on TV land getting back to this Katie said you told her that I roofied you okay and so Shannon's like are you kidding me she said that you What?

2:46Now we add Gretchen to the list. Another person victimized by Katie.

2:51Ben Mandelker: She is saying that you make Gretchen's roof when we all know that Gretchen built her roof herself. No, Shannon, that's not what that means. No, no. But here's what I was going to say. Tamara has heard from someone who has heard about this conversation that Katie is relaying. Is it possible in somewhere along the way that details were blurred or laid improperly or heard improperly? Like, is it possible that Katie said to Kiki something like, oh, yeah, Gretchen was telling me how Tamara tried to get her wasted? You know, so that way she'd like get blackout. Yeah, and then Tamra twists it. And then someone says this, sort of rephrases that and tells it to Tamra.

3:42Ben Mandelker: And then now it's at roofie level. Because that's what this all is about. And Tamra always claims like, oh, well, you misheard or it wasn't really like that. When Tamra is the queen of taking a shred of something and spinning it out of control and making it sound like it was something else entirely. This is happening every single time. It's a Janet move. It's a classic Bravo move. She's like pulling a, well, I mean, I guess Janet took it from Tamara first. So it's like a Tamara that Janet took that Tamara is taking back now. But yeah, it's a typical thing. Like Gretchen probably talked about naked wasted and Tamara's like, oh, now she's accusing me of roofing her.

4:18You know, it's like, no. But, and we know that that's what it's about because Tamara tells us. She's like, 17. Tamara, and this is Tamara's history. You know, she's like, let me just rephrase this history. Let me reframe it because it was fucking horrible. So let me just remind the audience what not a big deal this was. 17 years ago, me and the girls would see how Gretchen outwasted. But then when we were together, she was so prim and proper. So I had a party. And me and Vicky were joking. And we said, let's get Gretchen wasted, naked wasted, so we could see the real Gretchen. That's what that meant.

4:53He said, she was a naked man. You know, not that she could get naked, but just, you know. Because, you know, naked wasted like truth, naked truth. So then, like, what a nice, was it nice of us to do that? No. But that was it. Nothing more than it. No, that was not it. You got Gretchen over there, applied her with shot after shot. You didn't force her. I mean, she did drink on her own. But you purposely got her as shit-faced as possible. Then sent your fucking disgusting piece of shit son into the bathroom to try and, like, fuck her. So that you would have evidence against her with her old man that she was dating at the time.

5:27Which could have led to sexual assault. And thank God Gretchen was strong enough at that point to back that fucker off. And it was all on microphone. But you basically tried to get your son to kind of sexually assault Gretchen in a bathroom. You disgusting fucking pig. So for you to bring that up now and act like everybody's being so dramatic all these years later, when basically, not basically anything, you're guilty. You are guilty, ma 'am. You were disgusting.

5:56Ben Mandelker: What's actually so funny to me, and by the way, we recently rewatched Naked Wasted because we recapped it. Like either a few years ago, our last tour, like, but two years ago, we watched it and was still like, it was as wild as we remembered it. Like it holds up. But what's so funny is even if you just take Tamara, like just what she says here, just take out everything you just said. Like, let's just see. Let's just take her defense right here. like oh we would see uh like gretchen out and about and she'd always be drunk and then she'd actually like act prim and proper around us on camera and we're like we want to show the real gretchen are people not allowed to get wasted at night at a bar and then if they show up for work on camera for the nation to be like i'm gonna try to like actually get my shit keep my shit together and actually try to like represent myself well it was like this defense that she's like that's all we were doing.

6:50Ben Mandelker: I was like, you trying to expose like what you perceive as the real Gretchen is actually such a vicious, nasty thing that you're doing. And you're being like, whatever, we're just trying to expose the truth. Like you're the liberator. Like you're the truth teller. You're the one who has to champion authenticity. This woman who's sitting here looking like she has a plastic pumpkin from hot spirit. Halloween store taped to her face. It's going to talk about authentic people. No, I'm not. I'm not going to take that. Just live alone. We don't have to go back to naked wasted. So Gretchen's like, I don't know.

7:24I didn't say that. So she's like, I'm trying to comprehend this. I mean, supposedly Katie said this, but I have this weird feeling in the back of my mind. I'm trying to consider the source that's telling you that she said this. And I'm like, yes, Gretchen. Duh. Like, you're immediately going to sit down and believe Tamara. I mean, I hope that not even you are that dumb, you know. So she's like, yeah, I don't believe that. And Shanna's like, okay, well then ask her tonight. And Tamara's like, well, I got told. I got told by two people. Who are your people, Tamara?

7:55Ben Mandelker: Once again, Tamara. Tamara is like, you've been going and talking to bloggers. A, not only are you one of the bloggers, part of the ecosystem of content creators, Bravo content creators that we're all part of, but you talk to two other people. It's like, how do you not see how, like, why is it like, like, katie is not allowed to like be a little messy on the side with content creators but then like but you are i just don't understand this like just i just say all of you just get messy and just have fun with it yeah that's with all this like sanctimonious like how could you you're like how could you how could you betray the circle in this way kind of yeah that's ridiculous so shannon's like well i mean just put the recording aside forget the recording for an i am living over this i have something new now and how dare you how long have you been holding on to that tamra how long four weeks are you kidding me are you kidding me you had to hold on to that terrible information that katie said that gretchen said by the way even holding on to this information which is that what is tamra upset about is she upset about that gretchen said it to katie is she upset that katie said this to Kiki.

9:12Ben Mandelker: I don't understand what it is. Yeah, I don't either but this never came out. So Kiki never said anything and Katie never said anything. The only reason this is coming out is because Tamara's bringing it out. So if Tamara's bringing it out, she's doing it on purpose. So why is she making Gretchen think that the rumor is that Gretchen was roofied? How is that going to make Gretchen look bad? It still only makes Tamara look bad. Why is she bringing that shit out? Because you know there's people who are like, well, did she roofie her? You know, like I don't really get Tamara's motivation in this. And I think Tamara is kind of losing her touch because she used to be very good at manipulating everybody and getting stuff out there.

9:52But this isn't even a good one.

9:54Ben Mandelker: Like, well, she's trying to get Gretchen to turn against Katie. She's trying to be like, hey, just so you know, this person that you're standing up for that you said has never done anything to you. She's going around telling people of the media that that you are making claims about roofies. But like it's even that's like like it's just not the strongest like turn like loyalty shifting rumor. Like you should be horrified to know that someone saying that you're accusing me of roofing. And I know you would never make an accusation like that. So she's saying you would make an accusation that's way more exaggerated than what happened.

10:29Ben Mandelker: Like it's not even that strong to turn someone against someone. It's confusing. It is very confusing. I can't even say it straight without having to like double check that I'm saying it right yeah it's confusing is it like what's the motivation so Katie so I'm gonna get you mad because Katie told a blogger something that you said in private but then that's like well wouldn't her first question be like did I roofie you I don't know this whole thing is crazy and I don't know why Tamara's even bringing this up publicly because it only makes Tamara look bad because it brings back Naked Wasted, which I know that she thinks she can reframe that everybody's stupid.

11:09And it's too long ago that no one's going to remember that she tried to have her son attack Gretchen or whatever happened there, which that's not really far from the truth. It was a pretty gross episode. So Tamara's just making herself look bad. Like how badly are you losing your touch here?

11:25Ben Mandelker: She's just, she's not being patient. That's her problem because normally she's patient and she waits for Katie to slip up and say something about Gretchen. And that's why she's, anytime I think she's been nice to Katie, she's just been trying to get stuff that she can use against her. And she just hasn't been able to get anything where she can say to Gretchen, hey, Katie said this about you. So the best that she has is, Katie said that you said this thing about me, which is a gross exaggeration. And now you should be mad that she mischaracterized the way you said that I treated you. I mean, it's just like not strong enough.

11:58But it does make me wonder because Gretchen did drink that night. Like we saw, we just recapped it. So she did have a lot of shots and stuff that night that they were feeding her. But why would Tamara say she said, I roofied you? Because there's no way to go back and prove that Tamara didn't roofie Gretchen. And if she did, if Gretchen did say that Tamara roofied me, I would believe it. Because she was completely out of it that night. So why would Tamara put that in people's heads is what I'm saying. There's no way to prove that Tamara didn't roofie the girl. so it's just like a very sloppy thing for tamra to put out there to the public because if gretchen said tamra roofied me that night i'd believe her but she also would have said it and she mentions

12:41Ben Mandelker: this she's like it's been 12 years i would have mentioned it by now she's like i'm not above i'm i'm betty i will do this i i responded to your daughter's facebook thing like if you know if if i could have done this if i could have accused you of roofing me i would have or is She's trying to trick Gretchen into saying what you did that night wasn't that bad. And it's no big deal. I never would have said Rufy because then that gets Tamara kind of off the hook for that night. I just I'm just trying to understand the motivation. It's making me crazy. No, I think I don't think I think the motivation.

13:10Ben Mandelker: I think it's truly that some I think I believe that it was the comments are off like Tamara got me blackout. And Katie says blackout and black. I think black something like blackout or I couldn't remember anything. and Tamra did this to me and then somehow it gets back to Tamra and either Tamra hears Rufy or someone says Rufy but like to me it's like very obviously a game of telephone and um it's silly so back um in back in the voodoo parlor um they all are sitting around a table where there's a there's a they're all doing arts and crafts their voodoo the voodoo things and Mary the bloody Mary is like, okay, everyone, pick up your doll and I'm going to do a group zap and then an individual waking.

13:57Ben Mandelker: Is zap a part of voodoo? Is that like... Why are you asking me? I don't fucking know. Group zap, everyone. We're going to get Tamara's evil infinity stone and bring these things to life. Hold us still. Hold us still. And Katie's like, it's a hymn, actually. She goes, okay, it's a boy. I baptize you in the name of, what's his name? Matt. Okay, basic. I baptize this basic little baby. Okay, hold it tight. I'm going to slap it. Boo. I eat boo. I eat bobo. I eat bobo. Okay? Okay? I eat bobo. That's kind of like amen, hallelujah, but it's in voodoo. Okay? By the way, there is something called Zapp's Voodoo Potato Chips.

14:37Ben Mandelker: So maybe that's where she got it. Okay, everyone, we're going to have potato chips after this. I'm in. I'm back. I'm back. Ooh, I like to be spanked. this is fun. Just stay away from the face. I don't want to have another surgery and neither does my doll. So Mary's going around baptizing all the dolls and everything. She's like, I baptize you in the name of Gina. I feel mad. I feel baptized. And Gina's like, I'm so intrigued by voodoo. Like most people think it's like evil spirits in dark, you know? And then it cuts to Mary being like, just remember to feed it on a regular basis, add things to it.

15:12Ben Mandelker: Everything you do, add it with purpose. It's your ancient and voodoo vision board, which is really all she needed to start with. It's like, tell these women that they'll be making a vision board and they would have all been on board from the beginning. Yeah. Oh my god, this is crazy. My voodoo doll is already living in a tiny shoebox with 19 other voodoo dolls.

15:33Ben Mandelker: The box has cursive and it says box. I put a pin in my voodoo doll and I felt bad about it, but then what was worse is that my voodoo doll said i feel bad i literally feel bad you put a pin in me

15:49did someone just poke me i feel bad okay dress it for different occasions put it away put it to sleep you know those kinds of things okay well let's not talk about putting myself to sleep so tamra's like i don't want to go back with you on everything gretchen i just want to be friends with you it's me and you we're such good friends right i mean i wasn't in a good place at the time i was so mad to simon for crying out loud i mean look at you you're so cute you're just a beautiful question i'd love to be friends with you maybe one day i can give you back your voice your voice

16:31Ben Mandelker: however the things that tamara's always been good at is like making you feel like there's hope for change for like moving forward and like yes in my soul like my soul wants to believe it's true because i want that for her and i i absolutely do do do tim was like i've been called such a because i thought maybe you did tell her that and now now that i know that you didn't say that i roofed you i 100 believe you god what a bitch katie is we all hate her right i can tell by your reaction. You hate her. You love me. You're part of us now. Guys, I really can't. I can't be back in this shit again, you guys.

17:10I'm serious. I can't be back. And Gretchen starts like, what are you doing back here, Gretchen? You can't be in this shit again. You came back to Real Housewives. You've been clawing your way back into Real Housewives of Orange County since you left. Don't start crying now. You're finally in it. Rejoice.

17:28Ben Mandelker: Well, Katie, is insinuating that Tamara committed an illegal act, and that is bad. And that takes Katie's issues with everyone, every single one of us, to another level. And I want to get to the bottom of this. And by this, I mean this bag of beignets that I just picked up. Should we pause for a snack? No? And I think everyone's going to want to get to the bottom of this. So now everybody's getting ready for dinner, and you know, it's time to go on to the next fight scene. That's the preamble. So Jen is talking to Ryan and she's like, I'm going to bring this picture up tonight and she's not going to hide from it.

18:04And then in Heather's room, she's on the phone with Terry having a wacky scene about walking the Mardi Gras puppy parade. And he's like, oh, you showed your boob for beads. Just tell me. Tell me you did. She goes, oh, my God, I wouldn't show my boobs. Are they diamond beads? I don't think so.

18:23Ben Mandelker: I'm not Wendy Malick taking off her top just so she could be in some TV show with Harrison Ford I'm not Daisy Fuentes okay wait for the diamond poops I'm not Nancy Travis slutting it up so that way she can get an extra refill at Starbucks Nancy Travis so in Shannon's room, Shannon's a mess as usual, her hair is all sticking up I think her goal tonight is to go from the mom in Married with Children. I'm not really sure what Shannon's doing, but she's trying. I'll tell you what she's doing. She is not rolling over, and she is not going to come jumping back into her friendship with Tamara. Hell to the no.

19:06Ben Mandelker: She will not jump back into that friendship. So Tamara comes over, and they kiki. Hey, girlfriend. Hey, Betsy. Pinky promise on stuff. This is so fun. So fun being back with Shannon, my little best friend.

19:26Ben Mandelker: I think I just peed in my pants again because I'm so happy to see my best friend who I am not going to be friends with anymore. Get on over here for a hug. So Shannon's like, what's in your glass? And Tamara goes, it's just water. And we see the water. It's literally like the color of Pinot Grigio. It's either Pinot Grigio or you are getting your water from a very dangerous source. Well, I'm a little bit nervous, okay, Shannon, but don't you do the horror? Can I show the whole next group of friends? Can I brush your hair? Can I brush your hair, Shannon? I love you so much. Okay, you know what?

20:04You know, I'm just nervous for the day because I don't know exactly how to bring it up. You know, it's just so deep. It's so dark. Talking about movies and stuff like that. Do you have any movies that are really good?

20:16Ben Mandelker: And Shannon's like, well, you know what? I just want to remind the audience I am not jumping back into a situation where we are brushing each other's hair and braiding it. But yes, Tamara, you can brush my hair since you did ask. You know what? Hearing what you said today, I am so livid about it. And it took me about 45 minutes to actually parse it out and figure out what you were really saying. But then once I did figure it out, I decided I was pretty much still livid about it. And Tamara's like, yeah, because I feel like Shannon and I are back to a really good place. It feels great to have her on my side.

20:45Ben Mandelker: It really does. Like, I have your back, girl. Yeah. She's like, God, it's so good being best friends again. Okay, take care of yourself. Get ready. I'm working to be downstairs waiting for you, okay? Just don't forget your phone and don't forget your underwear. Same with our little hole, drunk bitch. I said that in a friendly way. Alcoholic best friend. So glad we're back to being besties. Oh, God. Tamara trying to be nice, Tamara, is killing me. It's so fucking funny to see it. It's time for a commercial. It's time for a Crappens commercial August is the perfect time to hit reset before the autumn rush begins And honestly, I can't think of a better place to start than my closet That's why I love shopping at Quince Quince is all about fewer, better pieces Their clothes are made with premium materials built to last And designed to become the one you reach for every day Quince specializes in everyday staples that work harder like their ultra-soft organic cotton tees and premium Mongolian cashmere sweaters.

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23:10Ben Mandelker: Set in 1980s Los Angeles, the series follows a group of glamorous, deeply entangled high school seniors drawn into a life of wealth, beauty, parties, and excess. At its center is Brett, whose reality begins to unravel when the arrival of a new student coincides with a series of mysterious murders. FX's The Shards, now streaming on Hulu. Then the other ladies, everyone's like climbing into the car and Gina's like, oh my God, I can't go in the back today. I feel like a sausage. And Heather goes, you don't look like a sausage. You look like a box that arrives from UPS. You know, very square, long, wide, unflattering, bad color for you.

23:56Does anybody have a blue light? Just kidding. what do you mean okay okay you know what you look great tina whatever it's not about you today okay did uh so shannon comes and she's in her own car she's like what did uh tamra already leave i thought we were best friends again i guess his sisterhood needs to take a little i i don't know oh my god i still have a beignet on my knee how did i get a beignet on my knee

24:20Ben Mandelker: it's just delicious oh i just remembered it's because i had the driver pull over at the beignet stand and I bought three of them and I left one on my knee by accident. I said, this will be a treat for later and guess what? It's been about 45 seconds. That counts as later. Now, Jen goes over to Gretchen's room and she's like, oh my god, why are you not ready? She's like, I'm not ready. I needed to talk to you first. I'm wearing a bathrobe. It's a bathrobe of sadness. I just haven't seen you since the whole voodoo thing and, you know. And then back in the car, Jean is like, what did you do when you ran out of the voodoo?

24:56Well, a heart to heart was Gretchen My new best friend, what a good person

25:01Ben Mandelker: Yeah Oh, was it a good heart to heart? Like, yeah, we talked about Katie And we talked about how shitty she is So, yeah, it was a great heart to heart Oh, okay, oh god, you did not do that, Tamara You did not Flop hand, flop hand, flop hand So then back to Gretchen She's like, you know, Tamara All of a sudden she says to me I heard bloggers like that Katie told him that like I told Katie that Tamara roofing me the night of the naked wasted and I was like wait wait wait what and Jenna's like wow I don't know if I followed that but naked wasted is that a is that a brand I love their work no no no but I don't know even if I how I feel about that so then we go back to the other car and Tamara's saying oh Katie said that I roofied her and had this that she roofied her her.

25:54What the literal fuck? Like, was this about at Heather's party you were saying something about some story that she planted or something? Is it that? And Tamara's like, that was illegal.

26:10Ben Mandelker: I don't trust Katie, but I think Tamara's in all opportunity quite a goal. So Tamara's like, am I the asshole that's gonna bring it up tonight? I'm like, yes. it will be you because you're the only one who seems to care about this right now yeah you're the you're the one who brought it up in the first place you dummy so gina's like well i'm gonna get katie's side of the story because i don't know what to believe so then katie comes over to gretchen's hotel room and um she tells her and katie's like well uh gretchen says yeah you know i got told tamra by tamra that you went to bloggers and you told them this crazy story that tamara roofied me and she's like no she goes you never went to a blogger she's like no and so katie is like okay so now this is coming together tamara said to me the quiet woman i didn't want to bring it up but you told something something about me tell somebody something about me it's really bad katie and i had it from two people they said something somebody about something about something somebody something somewhere sometime katie's like what did i say i'm not gonna say it because it was really bad and i don't know maybe maybe if if i do say it because it's so bad maybe i'll root for you afterwards you don't remember okay so heather is questioning if i'm planning stories with kiki monique and we see flashback to two weeks before when heather's like i heard you were asking kiki to put out stories to hurt us and katie's like and i feel like this has all been a plan since they've been very beginning to make me look like a bad person why is she doing this to me so katie's like well i'm not going to just lie i didn't do that and i know you have your doubts right now but hand to god i didn't do it i mean god it's never ending with these people so gretchen's like well when she said this i was just like wait what but then i got back and i started talking to slade and and then like that doesn't even sound like something katie would do and Katie's like well I didn't do it so Gretchen's like well all of a sudden I just felt like I'm getting bamboozled over here by somebody telling me that this is what happened so that I come she's trying to get so I come at you and I freak out at you and I get pissed off at you and this is by the way all feeling like the traitors which by the way announced that they will be doing this all civilian season coming up by the way by the way by the way by the way boring so Gretchen yeah I love Gretchen slowly figuring things out It's like, I feel like maybe I got bamboozled.

28:44Yeah, Gretchen. It's like beautiful mind numbers flying around her head, but they're like one plus one plus one. It just takes her forever. It's like, wait a minute. Maybe she said it. So I get mad at you, but then I would be mad at you. Wait a minute. I've got it.

29:07Ben Mandelker: Yes, Gretchen. She connected the dots. God. All two of them. So Gretchen is like, she's basically like, no, when you have to deal with an individual that's willing to go and get the greatest lengths to destroy people, to harm people, to hurt people, it's just hard to believe that person over the person that's never shown that to me in their life, huh? So Jen is like, okay, well, how much time do you need? Because we've got to go to dinner and if you're going to take 15 minutes, that's 15 more minutes I have to find this former fatty photo of mine. It's really bothering me. have you guys seen this photo so heather is like joking about making shannon some dating pictures for raya and then um we see a fake bio for shannon shannon 61 interested in love likes my dog archie the quiet woman lemons nine in a bowl golden door dislikes liars bad teeth plates sound bowls and houses that go too far into the street.

30:04Ben Mandelker: Men who don't like vegetables. So then Tamara's like, guess what Shannon had told them. And Shannon's like, oh, she told you, Heather? And Heather's like, oh yeah, we heard. We heard all about it. So Tamara's like, so who's going to sit next to me? So there's like a question, because like everyone who's still arrived, still due to arrive at dinner, hates Tamara's. They're laughing about this. By the way tamra is also blatantly trying to get gina to fall into her trap which i thought she would which is that tamra's not going to bring this up at dinner tamra's gonna sit there and all angry and the gina's be like you know what i feel bad because katie look at tamra over there because like i found out that you've been telling people that tamra's roofing everyone in orange county and that's just not nice yeah she's been doing it this whole time like guys am i gonna have to be the one to bring this up i'm gonna tell half this cast is deaf so at least there's a chance that one of you is going to bring it up.

30:55One of you is going to bring it up. Right, guys? And no one does. She's starting to fail. By the way, she shows up to this dinner with possum eyes on a thousand. They're completely black. Like, completely blacked out. And she's doing that little squint. I mean, she's just looking terrible. She is just like a hundred. She's been marinating in Tamra juice on her way here. She's like shown up ready to rumble. So, Shannon's like, well, can we talk about how Katie is late? I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. So then in the car, they're talking about Tamara being so manipulative. She's so good at making you question yourself.

31:35So then at the table, Tamara's like, wait a minute. What if my plan doesn't work? Okay, what's plan B? Okay, guys, I didn't consider this, but what if Gretchen did tell Katie that I roofied her? So let's all be prepared to get mad at Gretchen if Gretchen doesn't follow through by being mad at Katie, by being mad at Gretchen for spreading a rumor that I roofied Gretchen. Okay, everybody got it?

32:00Ben Mandelker: Heather and Gina are like, she didn't. So then they walk in and Katie's like, you know when you walk into a room and they're all talking about you? It's awkward. I'm like, yeah, welcome to this show. So Emily's like, why were you guys so late? It was me. Because Gretchen is like, I was taking forever, so it's awkward. And they're making sort of small talk and everything. And like Tamara's saying, she has hiccups. So Heather's like, can you scare her, please? Here, here's a photo of Wendy. You just show it in her face.

32:35So Tamara's just like,

32:40little bubbles are coming out of her mouth. And so she's like, Christian, you want to go talk about stuff? Hey, Christian, you want to talk about stuff? Just me and my girlfriend. so they go talk privately and she's like am I going to bring it up tonight? are you going to bring it up? do you not want me to bring it up? because it's just so nasty so mean I have a microphone if you want to bring it up you want to use this microphone?

33:06Ben Mandelker: I know I wrote out some cue cards for you if you needed just some prompts to help you along so Gretchen's like and Tamra's like she's like wait did you talk to her about it? what did you say? she goes well she said that she didn't do it She goes, and do you believe that she said that? She's like, yeah. And so then Katie comes out to get up because she knows they're talking about it. So Shannon's like, wait, is Katie going? Is she going to the bathroom? Is she going to the radio shack to get another tape recorder to record me what is happening with Katie right now? Is she going to the bathroom or the live room?

33:40Okay, now, did you guys hear about what's happening today? A lot of shit, okay? Do you know? And Jen's like, I think I understand it. there was a show on while I Love Lucy was airing something about being wasted while you were naked I'm really not sure I just I'm too young to remember that far back Jen

34:00Ben Mandelker: how do you feel about this? She goes well you know I've had a lot of conversations with Gretchen and if Gretchen felt like she was roofied I think she would have heard of that you know I think she would have said that so Gina's like honestly Jen she would have loved to have brought this like she would have loved to have talked about being roofied so now out in the hall now it's katie tamara and and gretchen and you know katie is denying that she talked to kiki about this and tamara's like so so why did i get like two people reach out to me and tell me the same story why why why and tamara's like like i mean she's like you know somebody like what katie says who was it and she's someone who doesn't want to be named i cannot reveal my sources i'm too good person i won't reveal my sources deep in throat welcome deep And Katie's like, well, it's not true.

34:50And Gretchen says, I mean, I was really looking forward to moving forward with you. And I still want to have a talk with you so we can either harp on this. She goes, wait, are you saying I pulled this out of my ass, Gretchen? She's like, no, I didn't say that's what happened. I just asked, like, listen, she said she didn't do it. Okay, whatever. And she just like storms off all pissed because it didn't work. So she storms back to the table and she's like, plan B. Gretchen believes Katie. Get her, everybody. He's so fucked up, he's so fucked up, and we were best friends. Me and Gretchen been best friends for years.

35:24I just got betrayed by not getting accused of roofing her. It's a betrayal! How dare you not accuse me of roofing you?

35:34Ben Mandelker: You know, when I told Gretchen, she was siding with me. Hey was this just an act with Gretchen? Is she a liar all along? Is she a fake person? Is she the most fake person here on this cast? because what she said is illegal and a lie. So now you have Tamara and Shannon both saying, they did something illegal. I mean, they're both like on this crusade. So now Katie and Gretchen return and Shannon's like, well, congratulations, Katie. You ate the last beignet. Congratulations. I guess none of us get served now. Your excuses worked for one person. Oh, Shannon, be quiet. Like have your own things to be mad.

36:10Ben Mandelker: She is so out of order. And I love Katie just being like, oh my God, Shannon, whatever. Whatever? Yeah, whatever. You're not involved. Well, I'm angry. My anger is involved. I was voodooed by, I'm a victim of voodoo right now, and you did the doll. Katie's like, yeah, we got it, Shannon. Everybody knows. You're angry. I'm loving watching Katie deal with Shannon because Shannon's just doing her indignant lady thing, and Katie's like, she left her sandwich. Shut up. Yeah. Every single person, and this is when Shannon does that thing where she points at everyone, like she's trying to do a magic spell on them really quickly.

36:50Ben Mandelker: Like, every single person at this table, why is my finger wand not working? I'm working, I'm wagging my finger wand. Every single person at this table, except Jen, you have hurt. And Jen's already hurt because there's a former fatty photo of her, so let's give her some space, okay? Every single person has been hurt by you, Katie, you. Okay, well, I've owned it when I've done something wrong, Shannon. Oh, you've owned it. Well, who wants to be around someone that hurts an entire table of people? Including the table itself. Look, look, look at this table. It's crying. I have tears on my kneecaps.

37:25And Katie just rolls her eyes. She goes, oh, my God, I didn't say it. Oh, you stop lying. I'm loving watching all of this blow up in Shannon's face kind of with the audience. because Shannon is just like on a mission from the Lord in this, in these episodes. She is so convinced that she's correct.

37:43Ben Mandelker: I almost think this thing with Katie is so over her reaction to Katie is so over the top. I almost feel like Shannon wants to be friends with Tamara again, but she doesn't want to deal with all the shit that people will give her. So it's almost like she just needs something. So like, this is the opportunity to get mad at Katie. And so that way it's like, it's like, okay, like you can see like tamra had my back all along we are good friends it's like it's like she's so over the top mad about this recording that happened when you're on a show that's recorded that like i feel like there's like an ulterior psychological motive going on yeah like she needs to make somebody worse than tamra you know so that tamra's not the bad one so she can be friends with her i mean yeah i think you're right she's sticking up for her yeah like look she's been sticking up for me that makes sense so it was like i love shannon but she can oh i'm sorry What were we going to say?

38:35Ben Mandelker: I was going to say, because Shannon is screaming in the restaurant now. The waiter comes by and she goes, I can't stand you. I can't stand you. I was like, what? She's making a scene. Yeah, she's being pretty terrible this season, which is hilarious to me. Don't necessarily change, but wow. That's what she does. She ultimates back and forth. So she's like, Katie, I'm going to say this is someone who just wet their pants 10 minutes ago. you are known as the leak in this group and that is something in this group from the bottom to the top from the windows to the walls to the sweat drops down my balls so then heather's like it's too much it's too much and so gretchen's like well where's the proof that any of this happened i mean hi and i haven't seen anything so i'm just supposed to be like oh fuck you and come after her that's what you want me to do and heather's like no no no no no i get that I get that and Gina's like I think she's struggling because it's her friend I was like wow Gina really picking up on the nuances of the situation she doesn't want to just say oh fuck you Katie because she doesn't know you know like I feel bad that's difficult that's difficult okay I agree point for Gina point for Gina everyone and also guys beyond all of this speculation I didn't do it so there's that as well Gretchen's like yeah this person has done so much shit to me, Tamara.

40:02I mean, do you really think I'm just going to believe this shit? No. Sharon's like, there are multiple reputable reporters. Barbara Walters called from heaven. She was maybe one of the people. There are people who report things with reputations. You don't know

40:19Ben Mandelker: who they are. Barbara Walters called, and then she said, hold on, I've got Cokie on the other line, wanted to make it a three-way, so it was Cokie and Barbara from ABC Heaven, and they were both reporting on this, and they see everything reputable. Jack shows up. He's like, where? Not that, Cokie Jacks. Go away. This is not your show. Also, I can guarantee... Oh, sorry. Sorry to keep stepping on you. I don't mean to. I can guarantee you that there are not multiple reputable reporters reporting on Kiki Monique hearing gossip at lunch. No. There's literally, Tom Brokaw is not at lunch like, whoa, did you hear about Kiki Monique and what she heard from a lady from Orange County?

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42:51Ben Mandelker: so Gina's like oh I don't know why Tamla would think that Gretchen would ever believe anything that came out of her mouth like has this ever historically gone well for these women in the past 12 years no so Jen is like did you ever ask Katie about it no no because she didn't want it to be a thing when it wasn't the vacation yet I wanted to ask Gretchen and today she was

43:19And she's like, I wasn't crying. I was just like, I mean, I was like, what? And Jen was like, yeah, you were. You were crying. You were so upset about it. You were so upset about it. I was there for you. I remember. I was like, patting you on the back. I was sewing up your wounds. I was like, I'm here for you, Gretchen. We're best friends. She's like, well, I mean, okay. I was emotional. And Jen was like, okay. So let's just all have it out then. Where's the picture, Tamara? Where's the picture? Leave my picture up.

43:43Ben Mandelker: the former fatty photo the thing that everyone's been talking about the thing that's on top of everyone's minds everyone wants to know where is this photo and tam was like that's not what tonight's scene is about though bitch no but it's i need to see this photo we all want to have katie come to the table okay we want we want katie to come to the table and if everyone's been hurt well everyone's been hurt here by you as well which i like that she mentioned that like okay like you guys are saying that katie's hurt everyone but like tamra like let's be real here tamra's one has really hurt people so like what was the intent of the picture with me i've been asking i've been asking i've been hearing about it where's the former fatty photo of me and i love the tamra goes i don't care about that well it's not about what you care about to care about yeah you're the one she goes i was just retaliating because you keep telling me she She goes, no, you were retaliating because I'm obsessed with you.

44:40And so then you start showing pictures of me. She's like, but I was like, you reset me in 2013 as a fan. And you're like, hey. She goes, what are you talking about? By the way, are we on something? I mean, are you on Xanx? Because Tamara does have black eyes. And she is so furious that her plans aren't working. She's doing a bad job. And it's just not like Tamara. And I think just as cast members on the TV show, they're like, you're not even doing. You're always a horrible person, but you're not even being a horrible person while today. Like, are you okay? Like, you're fucked up. What's wrong?

45:13Ben Mandelker: She's like, like, what are you talking about? Are we on something? I mean, Xanax or something? You're not even making sense. Just stay on track, okay? We're supposed to be having a fight. And Emily's like, you know what the issue is here? Is the whole thing here, what you're saying is that she's obsessed with you. Like, to me, that's a deflection of what's real. The real root issues between the two of you. And Jen's like, yeah, what is the issue? I don't know. What is it? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know first. No, I don't know first. No, I said it first. No, I don't know.

45:41Ben Mandelker: I don't know until affinity. Well, that's not allowed. That's not fair. Until affinity, I don't know. And now Emily and Gina just start laughing because this is making no sense and Tamara's like clearly fucked up, right? So Tamara's like, well, I think it's been like a tip for that over the past two years, you know? And Gretchen goes, okay, but where did it start? That's none of your fucking business, Gretchen. You're not my best friend no more. She goes, okay then. Yeah, you don't know nothing, Gretchen, stupid Gretchen has. I can't believe we were best friends for 10 years. Stupid. See, it just takes a little time and it always creeps right back out.

46:14Ben Mandelker: Unlike my former fatty photo, where is it? But there's a nicer way to say that. Yeah, but Gretchen doesn't know nothing. So that's what I'm trying to say, Heather. How nice should I be when I'm saying Gretchen doesn't know nothing? Okay. Gretchen doesn't know anything. Okay. There. Stupid. Gretchen's stupid. She knows a lot. She knows a lot. She knows a lot. Thank you so much for pointing out that she knows a lot. And Tamara's like, what? What you told her? And Katie's like, what? Tamara's like, what do you mean? What? Well, I'm asking Jen. Fuck off. I'm not. I'm not going to fuck off. You know what?

46:52Ben Mandelker: Alright, you know what? Then Gina out of nowhere goes, alright, you know what? Tamara, you're being rude and you're sloshed. I'm sloshed? Yeah. That is what's happening here. Yeah. And Tamara's like, you're being rude. I'm not being fucking rude. You're being fucking rude to everybody at this table, Tamara. This is actually my table, and I don't appreciate that. I was like, whoa. Do you know how long Travis and I work for this table? Who? Who? Travis. I don't understand. Is that the waiter? And Gina's like, it's too much. I mean, it's too much. Like, you got one eye open. You got no idea what's going on.

47:30When she did that, you got one eye open. Because it cuts to Tamara. and Tamara's like, you're a bitch. You're a bitch, bitch. Yeah, no idea what's going on. Like, don't comment the one sober person at the table because I'm just too sober for the shit in general. And let's say it's not fun to be in the middle of all your bullshit, Tamara. And Heather goes, for any of us. Which was the real stab because Heather is the one that's completely on Tamara's side all the time. So that was a real stab. And also for people to know about the fatty photo, it must have been Heather telling everybody. So Tamara is really getting her ass handed to her at this table.

48:07Ben Mandelker: Yeah. So Emily's like, Jen, what would you need? You know, I say table it. I don't think tonight is the night. I do agree with a little bit of what Gina's saying. I don't know what's going on. You don't seem like you're in your right mind to be totally transparent. You don't. And it's just amazing because they're all like, you're wasted. And Tamara has just had a little scene where she declared she does not drink anymore. and you won't see a drop of alcohol in her when she has conversations anymore. And so now she's been busted. Like, I mean, this is, I mean, to really flop this hard in five hours.

48:41Ben Mandelker: Yeah, it's embarrassing. I mean, Tamra's black eyes, she's just sitting there like, Oh my God, what do I do now? Plan A failed, plan B failed, even Heather turned on me. What do I do from here? You will never see me again. You know, she's getting that look in her eye. So I'm like, well, this is dumb. Like, I don't even know where to go for here. and heather's like gretchen you want to try my gumbo ya ya it's very good it's gumbo that sings beyonce lyrics yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah so those lyrics are so simple even wendy mal could sing along so gretchen is like she's like oh thank you it's like does anyone want to try my ya ya look at me televisions heather dubrow experiencing things like ya ya and gumbo and jambalaya ya oh wait, I think I just realized Jambalaya is yaya.

49:31Ben Mandelker: I'm learning. Now, I don't want nothing from you. Heavenly bro. She goes, why would you say that? She goes, I don't want it. I don't want it. It's that simple. Keep your yaya away from me. I don't want nothing from you. And Shannon's like, well, I don't know how many drinks she had, but she did walk into my room with something she claimed was water. Oh, didn't look like water. I just heard five hours ago that I'm never going to see her wasted again. So what is she doing this alcoholic? I love this. It's like the tables are turning for Shannon. It's like, oh my God, it's already time that I get to turn the alcoholic storyline back on Tamara.

50:05Yeah, I know.

50:08Ben Mandelker: So then Tamara gets up from the table because she's been doing for the past two minutes, she's been sitting there like quiet, like I'm not going to talk. I'm upset. I'm going to cry on the inside. So now she gets up and she leaves and it's basically like Bali 2.0. So she goes out and Jen's like, this is bad. This is not a good night. Just kidding. I'm laughing. It's great. So, Gina's like, it's because she's sloshed. Because I said she's sloshed. I swear, if Gina says sloshed one more time, I'm revoking all the good things I said about her at the beginning of the episode. I mean, Tamara walks off and they immediately all start like, oh my god, Tamara's fucked up.

50:41Like, oh my god, what's going on? It's so good. So then Tamara goes to the elevator and a producer comes up. And he's like, are you alright, Tamara? And she goes, I just wanna go home. I just wanna go home. I'm waiting for the elevator because there's a downstairs and teddy fell down those one time i could be traumatized and uh back at the table gretchen's like yeah when she screamed at me like man i was like i'm not touching this and she says when she gets this psycho you can see something in her eyes and that is the truth i mean those eyes change heathers are always black but tamra's change so heather goes out to the hallway and

51:17Ben Mandelker: say tamra what is going on with you honey why are you talking to all these poor people out here I just want to go home. You can go home, but don't talk to the poor. It's just not, it's beneath you. You know, you're not helping yourself. How am I not being myself right now? I don't know, but I'm uncomfortable in this hallway with people in t-shirts and shorts and headpieces. Who are these people? Can we get away from them? No, no, because what? So I'm not fucking yelling and that's why I'm like, you guys are uncomfortable with it? She's like, I don't want you to yell. I just want you to come back to the table so we can gang up on Katie some more.

51:58so she starts having a fit and she's she's like uh back at the table jen's like oh my god jannon if it were you and you showed up like that you would be like a drunk you'd be drunk

52:11Ben Mandelker: well i i gave her gina's water i i didn't i didn't really know what else to do i just wanted to keep her as drunk as possible so that way he could get off me for once so I just wanted to give her Gina's water so that way she could have something to drink so I could finish her martini. I mean, wait, it's not want not. So then back in the hallway, Tamara's like, I just sat down with Gretchen where I told her everything. And all of a sudden, I'm the asshole. I'm the asshole. They're getting mad that someone's not accusing me of roofing them. And Heather's like, well, you know. No, I'm the asshole.

52:40Just let me be. I'm not doing this. I'm not doing this, Heather. No. No one's saying you're the asshole.

52:47Ben Mandelker: No one's saying, honey, honey. No one's saying you're an asshole. I'm saying with Gretchen, she probably needs to take a step back. Okay? Look, sit under, stand right here. I'll let my hand flop onto your head as I say, take a step back. Look, I'm doing a small slam dunk with my hand on your head. Take a step back. Do you feel relaxed now? Take a step back. So Tamara's yelling in the hallway and they can all hear her. I don't give a fuck. This girl's contacted my daughter. Which is a lie. She's called my husband gay. Which is a possibility. Hey, she's gone after me a million times. And I've been so fucking nice to her.

53:30I'm so nice to Gratts and everybody knows it. Everybody knows it. They shouldn't even call the episode Naked Wasted. They should have called the episode Someone At Least Brought You a Sweater After Wasted. And that person was me, bitch. I can't believe it, but somebody knew me.

53:45Ben Mandelker: You know, when someone's husband's dying of cancer and you go on TV and you accuse them of having an affair and say that this person called you in the middle of the night and then you torment him this with this rumor for years and years and years. This is how you repay me. I've just been nice to you. That's it. Yes. It's so hard being a good person. So she runs out because the elevator is not coming. And, you know, some producer is downstairs holding that elevator. They're like, do not let Tamar get in the elevator. her. So she just goes down the stairs instead and keeps looking behind her like, fucking cameras, you're following me, right?

54:18Okay, come on. Come on, guys. So inside, they're like, yeah, that girl's crazy and drunk. Something's going on with her. And then downstairs, Tamara's alone in the restaurant. She just turns to the camera and she's like, do we have a car for me? Am I going to have to come Uber?

54:32Ben Mandelker: They're like, we're not paying for you to leave the shoot that you're supposed to be part of, you know? So Gina's like, Tamara just texted me, fuck off. What? What? And then Gina's like, and so then I wrote back to go to bed. And then Tamara says, you're out of line. And Katie is like, well, let me see if I get one. Oh, I didn't even get one. That's too bad. I was going to tell Kiki about it. Nothing to forward to Kiki. Could you send me a screenshot of the one that you got? That would be great. Well, she said, I'm out. Gina crossed the line. No one is authentic. What did you do, Gina? She goes, well, I told her I was slushed not to tell me fuck you.

55:12Yeah, I've had it with Tamara. I mean, you claim on your work in yourself, but you just said fuck you, the wrong person. All right, everyone. As Gretchen would say, shut the fuck up. Gretchen, what a line. God, I hope that makes it to the ads. What a wonderful line.

55:28Ben Mandelker: Did Gretchen say, is that a Gretchen phrase? Shut the fuck up? I don't know, but I love that she's iconic now in Heather's mind. They have all turned on Tamara, and they're back at the table like, yes, we nailed Tamara. Tamara, finally. Gretchen up and Gina. And Tamara's calling Eddie, be like, can you find me a flight out of here? I'm over. I'm done. So then Gina's like, oh my God. She put on her Instagram, it was a long run. When life gives you real problems, this reality shit doesn't make sense. Peace out. I'm out. Jen's like, she really posted that? Wow. She quit. She quit. A former fatty photo was bad enough.

56:06Ben Mandelker: Then she just quit the shit. Former fatty photo. know she's really fat font that font used to be bigger actually um so so yeah they're all like she quit oh my god whoa whoa and gretchen's like yeah i literally said in my head she will probably try to quit the show now because i think was gretchen there in bali when she did this also i don't remember no maybe not i don't think gretchen was on that season but uh i think this is totally a tamra move where she gets caught and she runs like hell you know and so gina's like I don't know what it is. It's like, I don't know if it was a cry for attention.

56:40I just don't know. And so Jen's like, well, once again, you know, Katie's in a line of fire. And it's like, here's the grenade. Hold it. I'm just going to pull the pin and walk away. Explosion. Huge explosion. I'm in a wedding bikini. Ryan has a boner. He's taking out his AirPods. I don't even know what's happening anymore. Tamara's on the phone with Eddie in the car. She's like, I'm bad. I don't need this. Goodbye. I'll see you when I get home. Actually, I'm a big bear. God damn it, Eddie. God damn it.

57:07Ben Mandelker: and that is the end to be continued what will happen well i think we all know that tamra comes back to shoot but it was a real surprising turn of turn of events i mean we knew that tamra quit during the new orleans trip we know that everyone like she had some sort of meltdown but what i was not expecting was that the entire cast was going to turn against her and like call her out like that was actually pretty shocking and gratifying to watch yeah it was lovely it was lovely it was by all. Nice job. I mean, we got a full two-hour recap out of this. That's crazy. Hope we didn't hurt your heads, everybody.

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1:02:33Ben Mandelker: One thing I have been known to do is to stop over at McDonald's and go to the drive-thru and get myself a Caesar snack wrap and just dip some fries in the Caesar sauce. Also, the Krispy's drips in the Caesar sauce. Honestly, try it. It's really good. Listen, I say if you put Caesar sauce on something, that automatically makes it better. Yes, that's really all you need is the Caesar sauce. I think I just want to have just a constant supply of Caesar sauce and put it on things at all times. Yeah, I'm a straight up French fry and Caesar sauce kind of a boy. That's what I love. And that's how I'm going to go down.

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