#2979 RHOM S7E12 Part One: The Strain in Spain Stays Mainly in the Plane

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1:27Ben Mandelker: Mandelker and joining me today Mr. Ronnie Karam. How are you Ronnie? What's going on?

1:35Ronnie Karam: Good buddy.

1:35Ben Mandelker: What's going on with you today baby? Well I'm thrilled because we're talking Real Housewives of Miami and this episode was so good and so hilarious. It was actually so good that I took myself over to social media and I proclaimed first of all I don't know I don't know if there's going to be a show that's going to be able to top Miami this year. Salt Lake City is going to be the strongest contender. We're going to see Salt Lake obviously comes back in September. And Salt Lake City has been on a tear for several seasons. And they are pretty much the elite cast to beat on Bravo. But after watching last night's Miami episode, I'm like, I don't like this is gonna be a hard one to top.

2:16Ben Mandelker: Miami is like batting 1000. They're having an excellent season. And I don't know. And so then I went and I ranked all my favorite shows of the year so far. So I really went into a tizzy. Wow, you had quite a day. I literally ranked every single Bravo show of 2025 so far. And I said, these are my, this is my favorite from top to bottom. And actually, what I discovered was that like the majority of the shows I really loved, like Next Gen New York City wound up sort of like mid pack, mid to low pack on the list. And people were like, you put next gen New York City. I just loved everything this year on Bravo for the most part.

2:56Ben Mandelker: I mean, I loved Southern Charm. A lot of people didn't love Southern Charm. I loved Southern Charm. I loved Beverly Hills. I loved it all. I love this. I love the pocket. I love the scene. I love it.

3:10Ronnie Karam: I love that you had that moment where you just gave love to everything. That's so good. I don't even need drugs to do that kind of shit, you know? That's been on a sober night. You know I'm drunk or something when I'm like, you know what? Here's everything that I love. I just wanted to take a moment to appreciate everything that I love. You can do that. It's sober, you know, I love it.

3:31Ben Mandelker: Yeah. I, um, I don't know, but that's how good Miami was. It sort of like me. It's sort of like Miami was so good. It, it uncorked all my love for all the Bravo shows. And I think I have, I think I put Miami as number one. Should I just pull it up at this point? Should I just say some of them i won't go through the whole list i mean but um i think i put miami is miami is definitely number one i put as my my number two i said the valley is number two i think the valley was really like yeah i think the valley was really like appointment television um i'm putting orange county as number three so far this is by the way so far it could all change by the end of the year i think orange county is having a great season so far i'm really enjoying it this is a little controversial.

4:17Ben Mandelker: I put Beverly Hills as number four. Maybe I put that slightly too high. I, but I was like, at first it was lower, but then I was thinking back and I was like, I had so much fun with Sutton and her mom and Dorit losing her mind and Dorit yelling at Kyle. There was like a lot of joy that I had at watching that season. Um, Southern hospitality, I put a number five. I think we've forgotten about it, but it had such a good season. And then love hotel. I almost wanted to put love hotel higher. Cause I just love to love hotel. And then it goes on from there. I won't go, I won't go through all of it. And you guys can just make a guess what my last one is on the list.

4:48Ronnie Karam: But yeah, I just love the McBee dynasty. God, somebody over there doesn't enjoy a Dribbledore.

5:00Ronnie Karam: One of the best shows of all time. You know, it's so funny how your hatred of that show makes me like it so much more. I don't know what it is about it, but I think it's so fun. And I feel like the listeners really like you hating something too, because it's just not your general vibe. So I think the biggest compliment we get on that show is that you hate it so much. It's a lot of comments like, wow, Ben hates this. I love it.

5:24Ben Mandelker: I normally am a Bravo apologist. Like if I like something, I will just like it and be like, no, it's great. Even when it starts to decline. Yeah. So it is nice to just outright hate something. But I love that you love it. Like I genuinely love that you love it. And then I, you know, it's fun. but um anywho we're not here to talk about that we're here to talk about miami as a reminder um we have tonight there's going to be crappy hour where we are going to be talking about the latest headlines and goss on bravo we always have fun with that that's going to be at 5 30 on the west coast and 8 30 on the east coast and then you can just figure out your time zones if you're not in those um and then also we're on patreon we have bonus episodes last week we had a really really fun bonus episode where we told tales of our youth and interacting with certain celebrities like Robert Goulet and Sally Kellerman and Diane Cannon.

6:16Ben Mandelker: And maybe there's another celebrity that was in there. Emily Harris, maybe. So come join us on Patreon for all that good stuff. Plus crap is on demand where you can watch the video, but that's enough. We've talked to not see us both

6:28Ronnie Karam: in collared shirts today. Yeah, we're wearing a little preppy shirt. I'm in like an Easter shirt. I don't know. I'm wearing Easter colors lately. I'm really into it.

6:39Ben Mandelker: This is a Gap polo shirt. And I have to say, I've been enjoying this shirt so much that after this, we're done recording, I'm going to go to the Gap and see if I can get more polo shirts. I'm hoping that they're still there and that they have not started to transition into their fall wear.

6:53Ronnie Karam: Well, I'm heading over to Palm Springs today for the weekend. And I was going to take my friend with me, my little one of my little Persian besties, Mike. Hi, Mike. Love you. and he reminded, he's like, I can't drive with you because I'm going to stop on the way because the outlets. And I was like, of course, the Persian is like, we're going to the outlets. Because every time we go to Palm Springs with the Persian, they pull over like every time. Nadine does it too. Every single time it's like, where has Nadine been? And it's like four hours. She's like, I'll be 10 more minutes. So yes, I'm going to have to go to the outlets because come on.

7:30Ronnie Karam: Or maybe I'll save it for the ride back, but that Sunday is going to be hell. So I think maybe you're going to want to you want to do it today. But my friend Brandy's everyone's doing this work and she lands in Palm Springs at 245. So I just told her get an Uber to the house and give her the give her the door code. And then I'm going to go to the outlets. I'll buy her. You should go to the outlets.

7:49Ben Mandelker: It won't be as crowded today. Oh, no, because I'll be in the car. Bring Bueller. Yeah, let's everyone brings their dog everywhere.

7:57Ronnie Karam: Oh, it's California. That's true. I could just be like, I don't even have to say anything. You just bring them in. Right.

8:03Ben Mandelker: Last time I went to the Cabazon outlets, I saw Faye Resnick there. So what star might you see there? Did she have a dog? No, she was with an older man and they were walking along and she was wearing a cowboy hat.

8:13Ronnie Karam: And I thought, wow, God, I can Kyle friends, friends of Kyle. They're just all in their, their cowboy era. Yeah.

8:21Ben Mandelker: No, definitely go to the outlets today because everyone is thinking that they're going to go to the outlets on the way back. and it's packed on Sundays. So do it today.

8:31Ronnie Karam: We'll go to the outlets today, baby. Yeah.

8:35Ben Mandelker: Okay, I hope you do some poop.

8:36Ronnie Karam: Something cute. If people can take their dogs to Whole Foods, I can take my dog to the Old Navy outlet. Then that's it. All right, let's get on with it so I can go because now I'm excited to go to the outlets.

8:47Ben Mandelker: I know we really should be podcasting because you actually are trying to get to Palm. You're actually trying to go on vacation right now for your birthday weekend. And I'm yammering about it. And here's my top 10. favorite commercials I saw on Bravo last night.

9:01Ronnie Karam: Yeah, Marine, come on. That's worth it. I wanted to hear it. And you know I don't go on the social enough,

9:06Ben Mandelker: so it was good to hear it. This was on Blue Sky. I don't think you're even on Blue Sky, so you probably wouldn't have even seen it anyway. No, I'm not on Blue Sky. I sort of have different content on different platforms I'm discovering.

9:15Ronnie Karam: Oh, really? So follow them on everything, everybody. If you want to see the same picture for three months at a time, you can follow me, because that's all I put on.

9:23Ben Mandelker: I normally do a lot of board game content on Blue Sky. I feel like I'm oddly self-conscious about my board game content. Are liberals more into board games than other people? No, I just feel like me tweeting about board games on Twitter, people are just going to be like, what? But for some reason, Blue Sky, I haven't like, it's like, it's a new persona I can establish. So I mainly do that. But then I randomly threw in this like top 10 Bravo, something, another. Let's talk about Miami. This episode was so fucking good. So hilarious. Yes.

9:53Ronnie Karam: Season seven, episode 12, Uncivil in Sevilla. So here we are at a restaurant. Larsa fighting because Lisa is taking calls about needing to find a notary. Notary. And it's very upsetting to everybody. Everybody's very upset with Lisa in this episode. And it's so funny to me because I just think Lisa's so nice. Like Lisa never does anything to anybody. So she's late. Who cares? Just leave without her. I mean, I don't understand how it's making everybody this fucking crazy. And then even Stephanie whips out her plane again. Like, well, we're going to decide who's going to ride my plane. No one wants to fuck you and your old man balls plane, okay?

10:35Ronnie Karam: I don't care about you and your draggy old man nuts plane. Shut up about that plane.

10:41Ben Mandelker: Stephanie's starting to wear on me a little bit. I'm not going to lie. I've been a fan of her all season. I think that she's been a great casting choice. I've been really enjoying her being obnoxious. But she is starting to wear on me a bit. And I think that her using this airplane like a kid bringing a toy to school and then being able to use that and have a power trip of who gets to play with a toy is getting a little annoying to me. It is hilarious, but it's annoying. And I'm also getting annoyed with her laughing in her confessionals, thinking that everything she says is so damn funny. And I say this as someone who laughs at his own stupid jokes on a podcast.

11:17Ben Mandelker: Literally, that's how we do is sit here and laugh at ourselves all day. I just laughed at it I just did it

11:25Ben Mandelker: but that being said Lisa would drive me nuts because I think her constant I think her constant disrespect of being extremely tardy is actually I think that's rude so she may be a nice person she may be nice to talk to she's a brat I'm sorry it has to be acknowledged and not a fun brat like Charlie XCX She's a full-on barat, and it's enough.

11:53Ronnie Karam: I mean, look, I get it. I'm not saying that being late is cute or okay or that I love it, because we all know I will leave your ass if you're late. But I just, I mean, the amount of, the punishment doesn't seem to fit the crime is all I'm saying. Like, she gets in her own way. I mean, she was late to this trip. She had to take a train. She had to carry her own luggage. She had to do all this shit. And she's still late. Like, she's never going to learn. It's just who she is. So you know what? I just don't understand why everybody needs to be like, oh, my God, should we disinvite? Okay, I'm getting ahead.

12:24Ronnie Karam: I'm getting out of myself.

12:25Ben Mandelker: Well, the disinvite had nothing to do with her being late. It literally did, though.

12:29Ronnie Karam: Stephanie was like, I don't want her on my plane.

12:31Ben Mandelker: Oh, well, she eventually used that as an excuse. But we'll get into this stupidity. I think Stephanie just wanted to create like a power dynamic where like, oh, no, you might get kicked off the 22-minute flight. I think that's what she wanted to do she did not sincerely care about whether or not she was on the plane so we're back at the restaurant where we left off last week where Larsa was getting mad at Lisa because Jodi was texting her and Larsa's like I don't need this shit in my life and she tells us so Jodi texts me he texts me and I'm trying to let it go and I'll drop but you seem to not want to this is what he says He says, I'm trying to let it all go and drop it all.

13:16Ben Mandelker: But like, you seem to not want to. And let this fight go like. And like, yeah, I just want to let this fight go like. But we've been trying to do so. And I said, I never in my life said anything rude to you like ever like.

13:29Ronnie Karam: And then we get a flashback of Larsa. If you don't understand that, Jody, you're like a fucking psycho-like fucking like. So the editor is just so funny. And then Larsa. I love Larsa struggling to sound 15 at all times. hold on yes sorry I was sneezing so she's like this is like Delulu this is like Delulu like and she says it 10 times yeah like she did because it sounds like new slang to her

13:59Ben Mandelker: yeah I think that she like maybe it was either she either learned that or she got confused about like la boo boo and then she started saying Delulu or whatever it is but she used it like every scene she was saying Delulu Yeah. I love when she picks up new slang.

14:16Ronnie Karam: It's like my sister's still saying, that is the bomb.com.

14:25Ronnie Karam: She told a bowl of rice recently that it had riz. I was like, I don't think you're using that right. She's like, no, this rice has riz. Yeah, my sister. I think she just heard the word riz. So she's like, wow, this rice is riz. I said, I don't think that's.

14:39Ben Mandelker: you know Kyle Richards is going to be saying Riz all of next season of Beverly Hills she really will be so there's a lot of back and forth in this scene because there's a group that's away from the table and there's a group at the table so Marisol goes from the Larsa group which that's away and goes back to the table and says alright there's a situation the situation is that Jodi has been sending her texts all afternoon so she's upset and probably needs a khaki and Adriana goes Marisol there's a legal motion going on and we got to take care of that first and then we'll deal with joe the jodie fight for tomorrow and tomorrow's episode so one of the funniest

15:21Ronnie Karam: things is all these ladies seeing text because we all know how a wall of text looks to these ladies and it's not good it looks like a horror show everyone's horrified just seeing all the words like oh my god someone made so many words like you see alexa looking at it she's just blinking like, no, no, no. I'm like, you guys aren't even reading it. I don't even think it said anything that bad. From what we've heard, it didn't say anything bad. It's like, please stop fighting. Please stop fighting. I think I don't really understand. So Stephanie's like, why is Jodi texting Larsa? Nobody's significant other should be texting any lady.

15:56Ronnie Karam: We are women. We don't text. Men cannot text women. This is insane.

16:03Ben Mandelker: and Alexia does her stand-up routine which is like, if he's like trying to stick up for Lisa, see ladies that's the problem, we can't tell our men too much because they're damned if they do damned if they don't, right this is the difference between men and women, am I right like men, you tell them too much, then they get involved if you tell them too little, they don't get involved am I right ladies, anyone, anyone

16:22Ronnie Karam: did she say it later where she was like, this is why we can't let them watch a show don't let them watch a show because they go crazy I don't think I remember her saying that oh I think well maybe it's just in my head but I think that when she said that she was like this is you can't let them watch a show or you can't let them watch it because this is what they do they get mad and so Lisa joins the Larsa group and she's like listen can we just stop Larsa go back to dinner come on she's like no I like want to get off this ride like Lisa like like I've got to like get like off like the ride like so Lisa just ignores her she's like oh god i'm going upstairs i'll take the call just go eat like jesus christ so adriana's like larsa there's two separate issues jody should not be texting you and then there's lisa with lawyers and her children this is very bad let me tell you when loss started loss started over the sale of a god people were very upset about it in jesus time because jesus christ we don't have time for

17:23Ben Mandelker: this right now adriana it's been going on for like three years like like every day is like the worst day of my life like come on now like so gertie goes all the way upstairs to find lisa who's like crying and then lara says like i mean from the time you sat down it's like do you have a notary do you have this do you have that do you have this and that do you have xyz and this and that and xyz it's like change the whole dynamic like like no one wants to hear about a notary when you're having dinner like like notary public more like it should be notary private

17:53Ronnie Karam: it larza you changed the dynamic when you start screaming and yelling at people at dinner like you're the one who turned this into a big fight and started getting up and leaving and doing all this i love it's like she changed the dynamic like it was like so peaceful like larissa just

18:10Ben Mandelker: does not like that lisa might be centering like getting getting attention because lisa does have whatever that for whatever reason she has some sort of legal issue that needs to be resolved in an hour and she needs a notary and she's like freaking out and Larsa hates this like oh my god just as usual like she's Larsa is mad that Lisa might might be pulling the attention of the cameras at that moment because this notary or she may even believe that Lisa planned it so that way this would happen so Larsa is just like obviously really pissed off but Larsa is only pissed off because she wants to be the one in that position who gets all the attention

18:43Ronnie Karam: I'm notary like so Larsa is like yeah don't kill the vibe like for the rest of us like we're here to like celebrate like this is like to loo like loo. This is like to loo like loo. Like.

18:54Ben Mandelker: So then upstairs, Lisa's sobbing and she's like, what a fucking bitch. Like, what the fuck? Like, leave me alone. Okay, you know what? Notary first. Notary first. Okay, let's go to a more quiet place. Okay, let's go. Let's sit. Okay, we're going to a new room. New room. We're going to our third location in 30 seconds on this TV show. Okay, we're here to focus on what's most important. A notary. A notary public. I swear to God, I've never had so much attention put onto a notary in the history of Bravo.

19:19Ronnie Karam: The notary needs to come on screen. I need the notary to be a character. Notary. Remember? She was already on Salt Lake City. Notary. No. I forgot about that. We need to have notary show up on this show. Notary. Listen here, Lisa. You think you're going to have dinner? This ain't no time for dinner. I'm notary, and it's time to get some shit signed. Have a seat. You've got one hour. You better get this signed before appetizers come or you're screwed. No, Terry, no. No, Terry's such a bitch. So Gertie's like, oh, my God, things are stressful. Here comes Gertie. Gertie is going to solve this. Okay, what do we got to do?

20:02Ronnie Karam: What do we got to do? Let's get a game plan. Okay? You've got a notary. We've got to sign that first. The second thing we're going to do, we're going to eat something. Okay? You got that? Okay, you feel better? Me too. Me too. Me too. We got this. We got it.

20:16Ben Mandelker: My darling, this is a walk in the park to other situations that I've been in the midst of, such as a groom saying no at the altar. That's right, everyone. A groom saying no at the altar. Easy. I could do this in my sleep. Goodified.

20:30Ronnie Karam: This is how I handled it at the wedding. The groom has said no at the altar. The groom has said no at the altar. Get the bride's text, put them on a screen, and embarrass the bitch. All right? The groom is paying for this wedding. All right, he's paying for 75 % of it. All right, let's embarrass the groom, too. Do something embarrassing to the groom, too, okay? By the way, is my headshot still above the bride and the groom, where they're supposed to be standing? Okay, great, great. It's time for a commercial. It's time for a Crappens commercial. This episode is supported by FX's The Shards, a seductive drama from executive producer Ryan Murphy.

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23:16Ben Mandelker: I just feel like I'm paralyzed like a cat, like a scaredy cat. Oh, paralyzed like a cat. That old chestnut. You know when you feel paralyzed like a cat? Cats are known for being paralyzed. You know, when I think of a cat, I don't think of something that's nimble and moves quickly and can get everywhere all at once. I think of something that's just paralyzed. Paralyzed. Scantycat.

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23:46Ronnie Karam: So Alexia back at the table is like, you know what? I just don't believe you have an hour. Like that doesn't sound right. I've never heard of a notary like that. Like that's crazy. Like what is their timer? I don't believe it. I love Alexia with all her notary knowledge. He's like, this is not how notaries work.

24:02Ben Mandelker: Okay. No, this is not a notary. Okay, it's not called a yesery. It's called a notary. And I say no. So Adriana's like, Alexia, you know how men play games. Okay, babe, Lenny knows she's here. If Todd came for you and you needed to get something. No, no, no.

24:17Ronnie Karam: You leave Todd out of it. You leave Todd out of it. No more talking about Todd. We have had enough of Todd. I will not have that.

24:23Ben Mandelker: Okay, okay. Jeez. I wish they replayed that moment later on in the episode when Alexia was patting herself on the back for handling herself like a lady at all times in foreign countries.

24:36Ronnie Karam: She's like, leave him out of it, por favor. We're not talking about that anymore. Por favor. Yeah, everything is all going on. Lisa's about to leave her kiss. So why is Jodi sending you texts? I mean, why isn't he helping her? Jodi should be helping.

24:52Ben Mandelker: Meanwhile, Jodi is on the phone with Lisa. So Gertie gets on the phone. She's like, okay, Jodi, it's Gertie. Hi, hi, hi, hi, hi. Do you have any text messages from the notary? Can we put them up on the screen? No? Okay. Jody, tell me everything. Tell me what has to be done right now. I'm on it. Gertie is on it. Do you need bouquets? Does the notary need bouquets? I can get them there in a second. What about a cake? Do you need table arrangement? Do you need a seating chart? What does the notary need? I will provide it.

25:15Ronnie Karam: Jody, before we do anything else, I need you to know this. The groom has left the bride. The groom has left the bride. He's like, oh, Lisa.

25:25Ben Mandelker: Jody, do you see a DJ? Do you see the DJ, Jody? Do you need a DJ? Do you need a band? Band or DJ? Which do you prefer? Past apps or no past apps? We're doing buffet? Buffet table service? What do you need, Jody? Just tell me.

25:36Ronnie Karam: I see an actor, I think, from Roseanne. Oh, no. They sent the wrong DJ again. God, they keep sending him. Lisa, I think you have until 5 p.m. Eastern, and that's an hour and three minutes from now, okay? There's a girl named Giselle. She's an online notary. Remember her? Oh, yeah. Yeah, I remember her. that we used to sell before. Yeah, you did it before. You just got to go to a computer. Oh, no, a computer. I was going to find a computer in an hour, three minutes. You can use your phone. Okay, I got a phone. Okay, I can do that. Lisa, don't get yourself wrapped up in these fights, okay? Okay?

26:13Ronnie Karam: I mean, I'll show you the text messages. And Gertie's like, Jody, Jody, Gertie, Gertie, Jody, Jody, Gertie, Gertie. Clean the lab. Clean the lab. Clean the lab. Copy? Copy? Okay, Jody, listen. With Larsa, don't even engage any longer. Forget her number, okay? Don't text her directly. It's not a good look, Jody. It's not a good look, Jody, okay? Next time you think of texting Larsa, go into the room for some AC. Are we still using that? Go to the room for some AC, Jody.

26:41Ben Mandelker: Oh, I'm having some right now. Look, now I just really need Lisa to make sure she gets this notary public, okay? That's all I want right now for Lisa.

26:50Ronnie Karam: Exactly, exactly. That's my focus as well. Exactly. Meeting adjourned. We did it. Hold on. Stay on the phone. For one more minute while I nod consistently. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

27:00Ben Mandelker: Eagle has landed. Exactly. Eagle has landed.

27:02Ronnie Karam: Exactly. Eagle has landed. So the other women are ordering, and Adriana... But Gertie was so intense in this scene. I just have to applaud Gertie for her being like, we are going to figure this out. Notary. Got it. Got it. Got it. Lisa, you heard that? Notary. Okay, great. You're not going to text the girls no more? Okay, great. We got it. We got it. All right, everybody. Let's hold hands. Let's say a prayer. We're going to do this. We're going to get out on the field. We're going to find the groom. We're going to drag him back by his ankles and say, you don't leave a wedding. You show up at a divorce like everybody else.

27:30Ronnie Karam: Okay? Got it.

27:31Ben Mandelker: Got it. Lisa needs that, though, because if she's on her own, she starts to spiral. She needs someone to come in and take care of her because, again, she's kind of like a little brat. So Adriana is announcing that she went to mass today because I'm sensitive. I can't deal with this anymore. And Larza just looks at her and goes, in her true Larza voice, she goes, Adriana, just go to the corner and cry. And she's like, but why? All you do is make excuses for someone else's bad behavior.

27:58Ronnie Karam: She's like, I'm not making excuses. I'm saying I can't take it anymore. I had to go to mass and I had to make tears, okay? What kind of mass do you have to go to? Like mass murder? Like, get out of here. Nobody believes you, Adriana. No, I'm telling you, when people hurt, I feel it. I feel it right here in my heart. Your heart is on the other side, stupid. Still.

28:20Ben Mandelker: Adriana always like him. And when I think of an empath, I'm like, oh, it's Adriana. She's the one. She's the one who feels people's emotions. She's definitely got a path in her personality. That's for sure. Yeah. Yeah. She's like, I do not appreciate when people who gang up on someone. I've been there myself and it didn't feel good. I'm like, you're the one who's always trying to get people to your side. So that way you can lead a gang up on someone every single season. Yeah.

28:46Ronnie Karam: So Julia's like, you know what would make everybody feel better? If we made kisses. I will kiss everybody. Oh, sit down with your fucking junior high girls making out thing. Sit down. No one needs to see you giving away your free makeouts with everybody. Gross. Sit down.

29:05Ben Mandelker: So Lisa finishes up with whatever she needs to do. And she's like, this is a major, this is a major, major life moment. Okay, I'm getting divorced. and I'm on a girl's trip at a dinner with a crazy lady yelling at me and making about her. And I'm just like grateful to have two of my friends there for me. I'm like, but is that, was this the divorce? I don't think this was the divorce signing that. And that's the problem with Lisa is that she's like, this is such a major event. I'm getting divorced. I'm like, but you've been getting divorced for years now. There is no expiration date on Lenny trauma.

29:35Ben Mandelker: There is none, but like you can't make every time you sign a document be like a moment that you need to have like a celebration okay like when you get to the big one where it's the last document that's when you can party the final document party yeah so lisa adriana

29:50Ronnie Karam: and gertie come back to the table and marisol's like monkey everything's soft everything's soft okay let's just have a little chit chat okay what's the problem what's the problem well why don't you like tell me what the like the problem like is like i don't know i've been dealing with legal stuff it's been very difficult but your boyfriend like is texting me like things like you shouldn't be texting me. What were they? I couldn't read it. It was really hard, but it was a lot. It hurt my feelings.

30:18Ben Mandelker: So Lisa is like, well, everyone, all of America, this is the harassing text message that Jodi sent to Larsa. Larsa, stop. I don't want this fight. You can't point at the sky and tell me it's not blue. Uh-uh. You actually can. It's not blue. Especially at sunset. Okay? Stupid? Uh, anyway. The texts continue. Listen, I don't want to argue with you. Clearly, we're not on the same page. What fight? Have a good night. Jody responded, we don't need to be on the same page. It's in the past if you let it go. Yeah. Nothing too inflammatory.

30:53Ronnie Karam: No, nothing too inflammatory. But, you know, it is a guy texting the woman in a fight. But Lisa does have a point later where she's like, well, she keeps bringing up his name on TV. So, I don't know. But I still think in general, like a housewives rule, the guy shouldn't get involved. yeah um but on the other hand it's also this cast taking a text and making it the worst thing ever like this i think they still haven't read the gertie text that she put up on the screen they're

31:19Ben Mandelker: like oh my god the worst thing to ever happen i mean i think that like jody was just trying to de-escalate and larsa is kind of like what like who is he to just try to de-escalate when this is between me and lisa he should butt out i think that's what i don't think that he hearing these texts that this is an accurate representation it doesn't sound like what he was saying was like that bad but i do understand it's like hey like this is between me and my co-worker at the moment okay and we're trying to have a scene so like yeah out of it but she but the reason he's texting her

31:51Ronnie Karam: is because she said in the elevator fight she was bringing up miami and saying he was like a coke head in miami and like raging at everybody in miami or whatever so that's why i think he's texting for milan or my milan milan yeah sorry the other me so laura laura's like i never involved him

32:06Ben Mandelker: Your boyfriend is the one who involved himself when we were in Milan. And then we see a month ago that Larsa is saying that Jody, actually the kernel of it is that Jody told Larsa that he believes that Larsa set up the photo of Marcus doing coke. So Lisa is like, you're acting like a victim right now, okay? You're acting like a victim. Now hold on one second. I need to find another notary. Oh my God, my children. She's the villain.

32:33Ronnie Karam: She's like, you're disgusting. like like alexia could you like tell her to shut up because like it works when you do it check you're making it worse okay like the way you're being right now you're just gonna keep yelling at each other okay don't do that don't do that we all know that's not listen we know if there's a problem this is how you do it let me everybody watch the star right now oh my god please please Please don't ever let me be around an actresses again. Please. Okay, try it.

33:02Ben Mandelker: Victim. She's the victim. Okay, like, oh, this happened to me, and that happened to me, and this and that and XYZ, and I have a yeast infection. It's like nonstop like.

33:12Ronnie Karam: It's like yeast infection? She goes, yeah, she like has a yeast infection.

33:21Ronnie Karam: Lisa. Yeah, sorry, man.

33:25Ben Mandelker: I saw you taking notes, by the way. You're taking notes. She's like, yeah, well, I take notes like a student. The names that she's called me, that she called me a groupie. Can you believe it? And so Stephanie's like, do you take notes about me? Do you talk about my private jet? Do you talk about how wealthy I am? Do you talk about the Shojai group? Do you give us good publicity? Do you give us a good write-up? Or do you have a good review?

33:42Ronnie Karam: No, not yet. Listen, I take notes because of my divorce. I've learned you got to take notes about everything. I mean, look, here's all the things she called me. A groupie. I forgot. I forgot the other words. You see? I also said you had a yeast infection about two minutes ago. Ah, hold on. I forgot that. I'm going to write that down. Hold on. He's in. Wait a minute.

34:03Ben Mandelker: I made a sick burn about notary private instead of notary public. Oh, okay. Hold on. Let me write that one down. Okay.

34:10Ronnie Karam: Hey, that was mean. And Kiki's like, no, you don't do that when you're having conversations with your friends. And she goes, yeah, it's smart. You guys should all take notes. First of all, why is Lisa getting shit for wanting to take notes? The person you guys should be giving shit to is Yolanda Foster, who taught Erica Jane how to take notes. That's how this all started in Housewives Land. And it's also very good advice because Yolanda told Erica to do it because of reunions. You go to the reunion and then suddenly everybody's giving you all this crap and you don't remember what was said and it was edited a certain way.

34:43Ronnie Karam: So Yolanda told her when you leave the set and there was a fight or something, you need to write it all down so you can remember in the argument. And that's what Erica does. And I think it's very smart. It's very smart housewives behavior. Yeah.

34:55Ben Mandelker: The problem is that Lisa is doing it actively in front of them. And I think that's where it feels wrong. Because it's like there's like a stenographer right there. Like Marisol said last week, when am I a stenographer? So I think like it's like take your notes. But after you're done shooting or go to the bathroom or something. But if you're sitting there like writing down actually on the fly, people get they get weirded out by that.

35:18Ronnie Karam: Well, too bad. Then Lisa, then Larsa should stop being mean. and that's what's going to happen. It's like Shannon Bedore being all abusive and then being shocked that someone would whip out a phone and record it. You guys are on TV in front of cameras. You're constantly being recorded and now you're going to get mad that somebody's taking notes about it. Larissa's like,

35:35Ben Mandelker: can you imagine being friends with someone who's taking notes on you? Can you even imagine that? At least take a photo and put it on the gram, but not just notes.

35:44Ronnie Karam: It's dangerous. I mean, where Lisa really went wrong is telling them that she was taking notes. like why would you do that you know just take the notes you don't need to be telling people what you're I think Lisa was just so proud that she was spelling things you know

35:58Ben Mandelker: yeah well I like yeah and and Alexa saying it was all she's like it's very scary it's very scary so Larsa says I'm not sitting in a court of law where you have to take notes on our conversations can she even spell dumb DM UB

36:16Ronnie Karam: stupid Larsa I love that that's the biggest word she could come up with could she even spell like dumb so adriana says oh well she's taking those to keep it straight might not be a bad idea oh you can't take mental notes like i've been taking mental notes the

36:31Ben Mandelker: entire trip well there's no difference between a mental note and a written note it's the same purpose yeah i don't feel like that was a strong a strong case um so because the whole idea the principle of it is that you're keeping tabs and you're keeping like you're keeping score of all this stuff and they don't like that but like a mental note and a written note I think are not that different. So Lisa's like well when you're in legal stuff like I am This isn't legal Lisa

37:00Ronnie Karam: this is a group of friends Lisa this is a group of friends this is not legal

37:05Ben Mandelker: Well we're not really friends actually we're not

37:09Ronnie Karam: You don't need to sit across from me then you can like sit over there like

37:13Ben Mandelker: That's like Larsa's big move this dinner anytime someone annoys her she banishes them to the corner of the table. She did it to Adriana earlier. If you're gonna cry, like, cry over there, like.

37:23Ronnie Karam: Yeah, go to mass, like. So Gertie's like, oh my god, they're gonna do this all night. Can we have fun? I want the last side. Let me kiss people. Oh yeah, you haven't been a great friend like you always say, Lars, okay? Okay? And so Julia starts kissing Marisol and then she starts trying to change the energy by kissing everybody. You know what? Take your herpes energy over there. Get the fuck out of here with your energy changing. I'm like, it's bad enough I have to listen to people fight. Now I got to get sexually mauled by your creepy goat ass. Get over there.

37:52Ben Mandelker: Well, that being said, Gertie and Julia did kiss and Gertie tried to give tongue. So they seem to have become friends again. Now it's the morning. Alexia's FaceTiming Johnny. She's like, oh, Johnny, I'm sorry. I don't want to make this FaceTime. I want this FaceTime to be all about you. All about you. Can you believe Todd? Todd?

38:14Ronnie Karam: Then we go to Gertie and Adriana going to Lisa. And so Lisa's got boots on. And Adriana's like, come on, let's have fun. I don't know. They're all splitting apart to do their group stuff. And so Alexia, Julia, Stephanie, Larsa, and Marisol go walk through a tile-making neighborhood and talk about how beautiful everything is. And they go meet Paula, the ceramicist. And she goes, have you ever painted on ceramic before? And Alexia goes, no. We haven't even painted, like on paper.

38:43Ben Mandelker: What? Alexia has never painted on paper her entire life. No, I've heard of this concept of painting, but I don't know. Not in front of Frankie. I almost painted, but then Frankie was there. I was like, I don't want to do this in front of Frankie.

38:56Ronnie Karam: And Stephanie says, I do it all the time in meetings. I take notes that say Masood with hearts.

39:07Ben Mandelker: Jackson, by the way, my son, my new adopted son, Jackson, made a Picasso painting on my truck. with a rock

39:17Ronnie Karam: Picasso must have early access to the season

39:23Ronnie Karam: he's just like completely fucking up our car his Picasso painting I'm not sure, Martina said it spells word but if it spells word it says fuck you, get off show don't understand

39:37Ben Mandelker: Martina's like well I guess it's open season and she starts like dipping tennis balls and banging them against her truck. What are you doing to my truck? Everyone, it is not canvas.

39:49Ronnie Karam: So Alexia tells Mary, please don't paint what you painted in the room yesterday. That was too much. And she's like, oh yeah, it was mild genitalia, guys. It's been a while since I've talked about penises. I paint really good penises, everybody. I love them. So now they all take turns drawing penises. Julius is horrifying.

40:11Ben Mandelker: that's the you know at first i was like okay whatever because i think they did this on potomac once um where they all had to like draw like vaginas or something like that but julia's what was funny is that she was like what you think a lesbian cannot draw penis let me do it and she like it's it's honestly such an easy shape to do and like hers was some weird bone

40:34Ronnie Karam: it was okay the the head of the penis right instead of being like a circle or a mushroom was split in two like a double-headed dragon or something and i was like what kind of penis have

40:48Ben Mandelker: you been with girl you had a double header it was all strange and she signed it too she signed it like oh this is very accurate i will sign it i am artist now like it was so deranged and i'll say Stephanie's was crazy too. She did like a big old mushroom head and it looked like it literally, it looked like an umbrella.

41:06Ronnie Karam: I was like, um, hers was hers was the scariest. Okay. So she had almost a normal looking penis. So it had like the head, but then it had these little wings that came out of the side and went from the shaft to the head. And then they had lines on them like dragon wings. Like it was spreading its wings. I think what is Masu doing over there? That's one old dick, okay? That's a lot of foreskin going crazy, okay? When the foreskin unravels like wings, you're not supposed to, like, be happy about. Something's wrong, is what I'm saying.

41:39Ben Mandelker: Yeah, I think it seemed like she had made the mushroom head too mushroomy, so she was trying to, like, now contour it back into the shaft. But now it just looked like it had dragon wings, which was not what I needed to envision for Masood. Commercials, here comes one right now.

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43:48Ben Mandelker: so the other group is just walking through seville seville and they're going through all these beautiful old palaces and adriana who has you know a degree in art history and is also the resident expert on all things is basically explaining every single thing that they walk

44:06Ronnie Karam: around and through yeah and um so she's like the name alcazar comes from arabic which means the fortress. Gertie's like, oh, we've got our own private Inspector Gadget over here. Inspector Gadget has agreed to marry the Alcazar. Okay? Inspector Gadget has agreed to marry the Alcazar.

44:30Ben Mandelker: Yes, she's the jack of all trades Miss Inspector Gadget, which I love because Inspector Gadget has nothing to do with art history or having an awareness of Sevilla or like was it her outfit that she was wearing was she wearing like a trench coat or something she was wearing like a little hat and trench coat so she called her inspector gadget which was just

44:50Ronnie Karam: so funny to me so the gold leaf ceiling and everything and she's like this was the place of birth of maria de bourbon okay she was a queen and i'm like oh my god so we hear about adriana she's like i've traveled to 58 different countries i lived in paris and studied art history i also lived in Florence. I studied Italian art and then Rome. And this is why what I'm about to be like place. This is why I'm able to be in places like this and understand. Listen, I've been to a lot of places too. And guess what I know? Dick. I don't know shit. Okay. So good on you.

45:25Ben Mandelker: Yes. So then back over by the tiles, Stephanie turns to Larsa and goes, Larsa, I want to make sure you're comfortable. Do you want Lisa to be invited on the plane? Because I want to make sure you're happy. Now this is a trap. This is because the thing is this it was not even on the table they were just all going to go on a plane whether they were fighting or not they're all going to go on a plane Stephanie has now created a situation where it's like oh there's an option that we can exclude Lisa so she is doing this truly as a power play so she can disinvite Lisa I believe she's doing it over and

45:56Ronnie Karam: over she's playing the same card over and over she just did it on the way here only some of you can come on my plane because it's like too small for everybody for a long trip so I'm going to pick my favorites and then she tried she pulled that and then she tried to say oh marisol do you want to come without alexia oh alexia do you want to come without marisol and then that failed so now she's going to do it again this girl is a

46:16Ben Mandelker: horrible horrible human being yeah she's also a brat so lara says like i was shaking so bad yesterday like i don't know if i want to be on the same plane as her yeah but she wasn't violent and she wasn't like there's no reason why you should feel uncomfortable you can be annoyed at her but not uncomfortable not enough to exclude her and enforce a mass inconvenience and expensive inconvenience too i mean it's so obnoxious that she's now pulling the card that she's uncomfortable around lisa so julia's like well there is nothing there is something more about my friend derek that i didn't tell you why it's so important for me to go because we are going to ask derek and gay husband to be good parents and they're like oh and i don't think anyone truly cares, but they're like, that's so sweet.

47:05Ben Mandelker: It's very

47:06Ronnie Karam: important for me to have the boys have male figures in their life who are hours and hours away and will never see boys. So it is extremely important that Martina is not the only decrepit person in this relationship with the word family. So now we are going to have godparents that are 90.

47:27Ben Mandelker: I'm like, what? You're worried that Martina is just

47:31Ronnie Karam: too feminine for these boys i worry that martinda won't be around to take care of the boys i'm picking people 20 years even older like what the hell old old gay men in a faraway country

47:47Ben Mandelker: um so so anyway she's saying this to be to sort of set the stage that like this is going to be an important and beautiful moment and you saw how i lost my mind over just a simple zoom call so people better be on their on their best behavior so now we go back to the others yes

48:03Ronnie Karam: another way to manipulate getting lisa out of there because now we have to worry about her babies and also i don't think that she's fully adopted those kids yet i think that they're still waiting on the adoption to be final are you supposed to be giving godparents to kids that aren't your kids yet what the hell their rules on this are confusing the hell out of me i'm not really sure what's going on here but i mean i guess maybe they'll get a gift or something from the guys so go for it don't know. Get them kids a gift.

48:29Ben Mandelker: They deserve it. The kids can get a gift, a.k.a. a kit that will take the scratches out of a truck.

48:41Ronnie Karam: Otherwise known as money from a gay man. Why did you accept money from a gay man? It's going to be like their first reunion on the Valley. Michelle will be there. Why did you accept money from a gay man to pay your bills? debate your bills

48:59Ben Mandelker: so Alexia wants so Alexia wants Julia to talk to Lisa because she doesn't want Julia she's like I don't want you to not invite Lisa basically she's like give her a warning and Stephanie says Lisa gets away with anything in this group she's been friends with them for a really long time and they have learned to just accept the way she is and continue to allow her to be a destructive way which I think is actually correct I think they have just gotten used to it it's kind of like what you were saying before just accept her for who she is but like they're accepting really unacceptable behavior honestly but it's not behavior that would make you feel uncomfortable where you couldn't get onto a plane

49:33Ronnie Karam: with her i mean i don't know i just can't i mean i i look i obviously i don't agree i just think that lisa's an asshole i just think that they're being so mean to lisa i really do i think they're just being jerks and when stephanie says this when she goes you know what she's been friends with them for a really long time and they've just learned to accept her well yeah that's called friendship, Stephanie. I know you don't have any of those, but that's how it is. You don't just like kick people off of planes and kick people out of your life and stop talking to every sister you've ever had and then cause problems between your mom and your sister.

50:03Ronnie Karam: So they're not speaking. That's not what friendship and love is. You know, you have people, the only normal, listen, it's like me, Ma says, the only normal people are the ones you don't know very well. Everyone's got something. You're going to have to learn to deal with fucking something with everybody. Just try and make Lisa on time. And if not, leave her, but you're new here and you don't get to come into a 10-year relationship and start telling people that they need to all band together to kick people off that you don't like. Fuck off, Stephanie.

50:27Ben Mandelker: Well, that's a separate issue. I think that Lisa does act like a spoiled brat and I think they have just gotten all used to it because it's easier just to be used to it.

50:38Ronnie Karam: They all act like spoiled brats, though. That's the thing. On this cast, who doesn't act like an asshole? Alexia's making everything about her and fucking Todd. She makes her best friend coming into town. She has a party for him, makes it all about Todd, and sobs the entire time. Marisol has a wedding every five minutes to get attention. Larza is always dating some fucking star and doing OnlyFans to get attention. They're all psychopaths on this show. They're all crazy.

51:03Ben Mandelker: They are, but only one of them makes them wait an hour or two hours.

51:07Ronnie Karam: That's true. I can't say that that's okay to make her wait.

51:10Ben Mandelker: I won't say that. I'm not saying that they're... I'm not... I think you should accept your friend's personalities, maybe, as they are. But when it's their behaviors and their actions are the things that are the problem, like in terms of impacting group, that's not acceptable. I'm not saying it's acceptable.

51:28Ronnie Karam: I'm saying this new girl has no right. That's a whole other issue.

51:32Ben Mandelker: That's a whole other issue. I'm fine with that. I'm meaning I'm fine with your argument on that. I'm just saying let's not make it that Lisa is some angel. No, I'm not. Okay. Let's not say that monk over here. Monkeys. All right. Monkey's not some angel who's like the victim of like this gang up here. She's creating her own issues. I agree. Stephanie has her own. Stephanie has her own idiots. I agree.

51:57Ronnie Karam: Lisa has asshole behaviors and I wouldn't sit around and wait for her for two minutes like they do. And I've said that a million times with Lisa.

52:04Ben Mandelker: As Adriana says, there are two issues here. And that's the thing. Lisa being late over and over and over again should be called out and should be shamed. and by late, like really late, like really, really late. And Stephanie, you brandishing her plane like a weapon, like me giving out Jolly Ranchers in the back of the school bus in fourth grade just to make friends, that is also shitty and stupid as well. And they can coexist. Yeah. By the way, that was not an awkward, for anyone who's wondering who's listening at home, that was not an awkward silence. Ronnie was just sipping.

52:40Ronnie Karam: No, I was drinking. I was taking a nice big thirsty go because I'm a thirsty dick.

52:44Ben Mandelker: Oh my God, they're fighting. They're fighting right now.

52:46Ronnie Karam: No, no, no, it's not fighting. I just, ultimately, I really like Lisa. And I think the way that they're dealing with her now is better than they've ever dealt with her, which is just leaving. She's not going to make the flight? Fine, she has to go take a train. She doesn't want to go to dinner on time? Fine, they just leave. And then she shows up late. I just don't understand why they're doing that. And now they're so mad. It's like Lisa comes to dinner two hours late. yes is it rude sure and saying lisa you're rude i guess is totally fine but ultimately look why be so mad it's just it just seems like a waste of time to me but you know what i also understand that i'm repeating myself over and over again and i don't need to do that either see i'm becoming

53:27Ben Mandelker: i want to address i want to address something i do think that their fury at lisa having to deal with a notary at dinner feels a little manufactured, not manufactured, but like that, there's no reason for them to be mad at her about that. She got a call that she has to deal with a notary. I mean, does she make it everyone's business? Yes. Should she just step away and deal with it? Sure. But I don't think it's the end of the world. Larsa, that was Larsa being an asshole, making that like, like the biggest drama in the world. But, um, and I agree, I think that like, rather than Stephanie having this whole drama about like, she's not invited because she's going to like she's going to whatever this edit the jetta kid is she's going to violate it if lisa's late to the plane lisa's late to the plane and she will have to make her own way to marbella but i don't think there has to be any more thought than that yeah and then her blaming everything her

54:16Ronnie Karam: being like oh you want to make excuses for her it's been years where you've given her chances to be late and disrespect you and she's also come in and ruined the environment which is her

54:26Ben Mandelker: pronunciation of stuff is fun she's ruined it she's you know what you know what she's gonna bury this entire trip with how with all the things that she's ruined from it she's gonna

54:38Ronnie Karam: bury it with ruined but accusing her of ruining the environment is silly when larsa is the one having a fit and stocking off and getting up and leaving dinner and telling everybody to shut up and telling adriana to shut up it's like it's fine for larsa because she's your friend but But you're not calling her out like you call everybody else out. Be fair, Stephanie. Not that I would expect that from you. Come on, man.

55:02Ben Mandelker: So now given the option, I don't want to be on a plane with her. I don't want to be in a car with her. I don't want to be in a train with her. I don't want to be on a tram with her. I don't want to be on a tandem bike with her. I don't want to be on a skateboard with her. I don't want to be on anything with her. Okay, well, you know what? The good news is the plane rides only 22 minutes. so that's the good news everyone is she's saying the good news is you guys can all deal because it's only 22 minutes or she's saying the good news is it'll be easy for lisa because it's only 22 minutes not that inconvenient yeah she's just saying you only have to deal with her 22 minutes

55:38Ronnie Karam: shut up so stephanie is like everyone knows there's such a thing as jetiquette it's etiquette on a jet for those of you who didn't know but lisa's always like forgot the pun and i already think that rule number one of jedikit she's gonna break it and who wants bad vibes in the sky nobody i'm gonna kick her off for being possibly late to a plane yes potentially

56:03Ben Mandelker: late so larsa's like i'm in a situation you're in a situation where you're with someone that's taking notes and sending them to someone who doesn't give a shit about you guys like wait Who's she sending the notes to, Jodi? Is that what she's saying? Alexa's like, you know, something's going on with her. You know, Lisa was never like this. It's like, I don't know, is she like going through a divorce or something? Like something's going on with her.

56:26Ronnie Karam: It's crazy. You know, Lisa would never take a note. This is like crazy. Like she never even took them in school. That's why she got in trouble. And Mary's soul says, ah, it's like she's thinking more now or something. I mean, all the wheels are spinning. I mean, it's disgusting. Who needs a thinking Lisa? This is terrible. This is where evolution goes wrong. Okay, people like Lisa weren't meant to think, monkey. Okay.

56:50Ben Mandelker: The expression is monkey see, monkey do, not monkey see, monkey think.

56:54Ronnie Karam: We've all seen what happens when monkeys start to think. I saw Planet of the Apes. James Franco is dead. He's dead now.

57:01Ben Mandelker: What would happen if Lisa takes over this planet? It would be terrible. We got to get her to stop thinking.

57:08Ronnie Karam: I don't want to get sued. I like my money. And Lars is like, well, that's what I'm, like, seeing, like. Like, I don't want to, like, be on the plane with her, like. Like, I'm not willing to lose anything for someone else's, like, situation. Like, and, like, I think you can all, like, agree to, like, that. Like, okay, now you guys are making it that they're suing you. No one is suing you. She's saying that you called her name so she can remember to call you out at the reunion for all the names you called her. Okay? And we've seen Lisa at reunions, and we see why she needs to take notes. Because Lisa at the reunion will be like, you were mean to me.

57:37Ronnie Karam: How? That time you did that. Lenny.

57:45Ben Mandelker: So other group, Lisa saying, this is the first time I've been on a trip. Okay, this is the first time on the trip, this whole trip that I've been in the moment. I have had so much personal stuff going on and I have to say, like the lawsuits have taken up so much of my time. I'm like, are you really in the moment? Because you're talking about the lawsuits actively right now while you're in the moment.

58:04Ronnie Karam: Do you know how hard it was being in Bali with lawyers? It was so difficult. It was the hardest vacation I've ever been on. I haven't had a break, guys.

58:14Ben Mandelker: guys, Logan has been asking us to fix the relationship and I just feel like I'm crumbling. So Kiki's like, well, I don't feel like it's okay for somebody's boyfriend to be calling another person in the group. She's like, well, she started it. I mean, she literally said his name. So it was about him. So yes, I told him. And Kiki's like saying, you know, it's bad enough that Jody's texting the women, but it's the amount of Texas's and that just, it's not right. So at least - How do you say it? Texts. Me too. I say texts. not Texas's but like the women on the show have been saying Texas Texas text and that pops up

58:49Ronnie Karam: every now and then yeah people say it differently housewives especially say texties I think or Texas

58:54Ben Mandelker: Texas Texas Texas Texas that's what they say it's kind of like Texas but Texas

59:02Ronnie Karam: congratulations you've reached the end of part one of a two-part recap for part two Go look for the recap that says part two.

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1:02:24Ronnie Karam: I mean, I just have. It is delicious. Caesar sauce is like a Parmesan, garlicky blend with some lemon in it. And you can dip anything in there.

1:02:32Ben Mandelker: One thing I have been known to do is to stop over at McDonald's and go to the drive-thru and get myself a Caesar snack wrap and just dip some fries in the Caesar sauce. Also, the Krispy's drips in the Caesar sauce. Honestly, try it. It's really good.

1:02:47Ronnie Karam: Listen, I say if you put Caesar sauce on something, that automatically makes it better. Yes, that's really all you need is the Caesar sauce.

1:02:54Ben Mandelker: I think I just want to have just a constant supply of Caesar sauce and put it on things at all times.

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