#2980 RHOM S7E12 Part Two: The Strain in Spain Stays Mainly in the Plane

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1:00Ronnie Karam: recap if you're like hey wait a minute i didn't hear part one guys it's because we put out a lot of recaps go back and listen to part one okay it's before this one bye enjoy the show so back

1:11Ben Mandelker: at the town making julia is like says that she and she and marisol are going to talk to lisa they're going to have a conversation with her and like oh well you know what she doesn't like people telling her what to do she's like peter you know an artist doesn't like people telling them what to do julia's like well i don't like it either she's like but larsa has been telling her literally since June like please say please you're my friend you're following Marcus and you know what he's done to me and my family and she just doesn't want to do it because Lars is telling her what to do you know so then we go back to the other group and Adriana is basically Adriana this episode through like 75 % of this episode is looking very sane and I'm like having moments where I'm like you know I'm really appreciating Adriana we sort of forget she's so smart she is very educated and she actually can have a really good head on her shoulders when she gets out of her own way.

1:59Ben Mandelker: And so, you know, I'm like, wow, look at Adriana being a voice of reason in this scene right now.

2:04Ronnie Karam: Yeah, I know. It's always funny. This show tricks us all the time. So, Gertie is like, um, listen, I know you're not ready to unfollow Marcus, and it's so stupid, but the factor is it's escalated everything. You have to unfollow Marcus. But she's been so aggressive. No, she's not going to tell me what to do. Adriana, you're the voice of seasons. What do you think? It's the voice of reason. Hold on, let me write that down.

2:28Ben Mandelker: Reason, that's a good one. I like that. Makes more sense.

2:32Ronnie Karam: I love reasons. They're so good in cereal. No, that's reasons. Okay, let me write that down. Let me write that down.

2:41Ben Mandelker: Adriana's like, you don't want to unfollow Marcus on Larsa's demand because that means she's winning. At the same time, I feel like you're empowering her because she's using that to run the whole group against you.

2:56Ronnie Karam: Lisa's like, I mean, thank you. Very, very well said. I love it when she's like this.

3:03Ben Mandelker: That's what I'm saying.

3:04Ronnie Karam: But I also love it when she's like, you shut up with your stupid old wrinkly bony knees. Why don't you get face surgery on your knees?

3:13Ben Mandelker: But like in this moment, there's like clarity and Adriana says something smart. And Lisa's like, okay, you know what? I'm just gonna do it. I'm gonna do it. I'll do it. I'll do it. I'll do it. And so she unfollows Marcus and they play like hallelujah music. and it's a whole big exciting thing.

3:28Ronnie Karam: You see that, guys? I think I see pigs flying, Kiki. And Lisa's like, yeah, you know, I don't think Lars is going to go, you know what? Thank you, friend. I think we can move on now, okay? It's not going to happen. It's not going to happen.

3:42Ben Mandelker: Nope, it will definitely not. But it's good to take away that chip. And in fact, I think Adriana says that in the background somewhere, like, you took away that chip. So now we go back to the hotel and Marisol's going to have a sedative. I had this conversation with Monk and she says, it's Stephanie's plan, Stephanie's choice. So stupid. Can we not bring abortion language into this? It's her choice. We're not in Florida at the moment

4:12Ronnie Karam: or Texas or something like that.

4:14Ben Mandelker: Planned airplane hood.

4:16Ronnie Karam: It's her choice for now. For now. So Lisa joins

4:22Ben Mandelker: Roe versus fly. Am I right?

4:26Ronnie Karam: Someone wrote me a DM and said, Ronnie, please stop bringing politics into everything. You're ruining it. Listen, if you think little jokes like that are bringing politics into it, if you think of the things that I've said, just think of the things that I could be saying. Okay? And send me a fucking gold medal. and the gold fucking metal for all the things i haven't said in the past 13 years okay yeah and

4:54Ben Mandelker: next time you vote for someone who who advocates for removing the rights of someone to just live as their normal selves i think that normal that person gets to say can we keep politics out of my life thank you very much so yeah and yeah jesus okay not everyone like we just got out Now we're going to be all bad. These airplane comments. We just got so salty so quickly.

5:24Ronnie Karam: Lisa comes to talk to Julia and Marisol. And she's like, hi, everybody. And this is what cracks me up because Lisa has shown up to literally every scene so positive. She's like, hi, guys. Like even when she's late, she's like, hi, guys. I just wanted to come to your room and say hi. Sorry, I'm late or whatever. She didn't say sorry, I'm late. That was the problem. But, you know, she comes into every scene like, hi, guys, let's start a fresh clean slate. Right. And I sit down. We need to talk to you, monkey. You're about to get grilled.

5:51Ben Mandelker: All right. I'm so mad at Marisol because her stupid nicknames have invaded my life. Like I hear like I I'll be walking around. I'll hear. Hey, Keeks. I'll be. Hey, monk. And New York Times just came out with a new game called Pips. And like all I can hear is Pips.

6:08Ronnie Karam: Pips. Oh, it's Pips. I tell people that it doesn't even make any sense. So I say, hey, pimps.

6:14Ben Mandelker: I hate this because it means that Marisol is no longer the forgettable whatever on this show. Like she actually like officially now has a place in my heart. It makes me so mad.

6:26Ronnie Karam: Me too. This is the first. Well, I think it started last year. And I think it's super interesting because she was just so boring and lame. And I think I went over this last week. But she was so terrible the first run of the show. the second show she came back as a carbon copy of her mother like she was just trying too hard to have all the jokes and the props and the and she spent a couple of years doing that and she's really gotten the hang of it i think she's really good she i think she's actually found her exact

6:52Ben Mandelker: lane and her exact vibe like she is like i i i don't know like i get annoyed sometimes that she she does have these lines that she's like i won't sit there i'm not going on this party if adriana is there she always has this simmering feud with adriana but um yeah i don't know the fact that i'm going around being like pamps and you're going around is going pips it's crazy right i'm having a

7:17Ronnie Karam: weird year with that though i don't know it's one of those things where i don't know if they're changing or if i'm changing but i noticed um like i like her now which is uncomfortable for me because she's made me crazy for so many years and um i noticed that in the preview of salt lake city i I was like, oh my God, Bronwyn. They're being so mean to Bronwyn. I don't like that. Like I'm feeling defensive over, like protective over Bronwyn, which is super weird because she makes me crazy. I'm loving Heather Dubrow on OC. Yeah. I mean, what's next? Am I going to become a Kyle Stan on Real Housewives of Beverly Hills?

7:47Ronnie Karam: What's happening to me?

7:49Ben Mandelker: Yeah, it could all happen. Well, Pips, okay, Monk, get on over here. Get on over here. I want to be like,

7:55Ronnie Karam: Ben, you know who's really changed for the better? Shep. What a good person.

8:00Ben Mandelker: just love him love him now admittedly of all those people shep is your is like the least of your

8:06Ronnie Karam: of the ones i think that you detest right oh no i did it's like most really you tested more than kyle richards and oh the men on southern charm i detest more probably than anybody combined on all of these shows kyle just makes me crazy you know i i would probably hang out with kyle in real life. I'd probably like her in real life.

8:27Ben Mandelker: I would hang out with all of them. That's the saddest part. I would hang out with literally everyone on Bravo. I would run for most of them. They're all fun. Because they're also like psychos. And I am at the end of the day. I'm a fan. I'm you know, when we do this podcast, I like to be like, I'm a commentator. But the truth is I'm a fan. So Monk, come on, sit over here, Monk. Come on, sit over here, Monk. We have Marbella, and we are going on Stephanie's jet. It is short flight, and we are going to see my friends Derek and Jeffs. And it's extra special because we're going to ask them to be goats.

9:09Ben Mandelker: We're going to say, can you transition into goats? And then you can come to my farm, and I can take care of you. And they hopefully say yes.

9:17Ronnie Karam: That's so special. I can't wait to be there for that. I'm going to be there for that. I can't wait. So we're leaving at 5 p.m., right? 10 a.m. Okay, 4 p.m. 10 a.m. Alright, I'll be there at 6.

9:31Ben Mandelker: Well, I'll be on my best behavior if that's what I'm here for, because she already knows. She already knows mom and dad, or mom and mom have been like, okay, Lisa, we know you're in housewives mode tomorrow. You have to be in human being in the real world mode. These are non-reality stars, and they're important. So be on good behavior tomorrow. Yeah.

9:53Ronnie Karam: Well, I love hearing that because they're very important people. Okay? They're got goats. And so Mary's, they're good parents. And Mary's still like, all right, monkey, you got to put your phone away. Because everyone's very uncomfortable about the note taking. I can't put my phone away. I got kids. All right. Well, here's what we're going to do. We're going to have a basket on the jet. And when we get to the house, there's a basket for the phone. So we're going to put our phones in the basket. because people don't want you to be able to take notes there. You can have your phone back and take notes after, but I won't remember after.

10:25Ronnie Karam: That's why you can have it after. Do you understand, monkey?

10:29Ben Mandelker: Are you guys making the rules for everyone else? Yes, of course. We all have to do that. I can't do that. Here's the problem, Monk. The note-taking is everyone on high alert. We got to de-escalate. We got to get down to go from orange to yellow. Maybe we can even get to green again, but right now we're in red.

10:47Ronnie Karam: situation read one thing a real housewife cannot stand is someone holding them accountable for things they actually said monkey we're very very uncomfortable with that okay listen a lot of these

10:59Ben Mandelker: women have sold exclusives to people magazine and we can't have someone else writing an article about them and that includes you monk okay you gotta put the phone away but i'm only taking notes on

11:09Ronnie Karam: larsa because she likes to twist things and lie like i have to keep it straight how am i gonna

11:13Ben Mandelker: remember things one day you take on larsa next time you take on me first they came for larsa and i said nothing then she came for adriana and i say nothing first they took notes on larsa

11:32Ronnie Karam: i said nothing so lisa's like lisa i have to be able to pick up the phone i've got two small children. Alright, well, when you're here, how can you help them if they're over there? If your baby calls and says I've been left in a hot car, I'm dying, how are you going to save them if you're here? It doesn't matter if you're on the phone. What, are you going to listen to them die slowly on a phone?

11:56Ben Mandelker: I actually probably call 911 and tell them to go fetch my baby. Alright, bad example. Okay, how about this? Your kids are at at the home and they want to have low-cal pizza again because that's what you taught them that they're supposed to like and you're not there to make it for them. So who are you going to call? Ghostbusters? That was a joke. You like that? That was a little on-the-fly joke. Ghostbusters.

12:22Ronnie Karam: Cockbusters. God, I love penises. That was funny, right? Use that one. People love when I talk about penises. They love it. So she's basically saying, well, if you're not there, somebody's got to be taking care of the kids. Why can't they help the kids and she's like nobody helps because their father doesn't you can't well Lenny you really think Lenny's that big of a help no I believe that he's not but they're basically like

12:45Ben Mandelker: someone is overseeing the kids right now there is some adult that's overseeing the kids right I guess you're saying well but if there's like a medical emergency you know I have to think Lenny's a piece of shit but I think if there's a true emergency I think Lenny will probably

13:01Ronnie Karam: maybe he's got a boob in one hand and a nose in another hand. What is he going to do? Pick up a phone? No, he's got to put the boob in the nose back. He's going to have a nose in the boob and a boob on the nose. You've got to pay attention. You can't just be picking up the phone.

13:15Ben Mandelker: Guys are shitty, but if there's also an emergency, I do think Jody will spring into action. And she's like, but he's not their dad. Yes, it's like I get that, but like if something needs to be tended to for the kids and there's no adult around, I think Jody will do it and I think it'll be okay. but I mean I don't know this is a complicated situation I know it's more it's trickier than that but that being said I do feel like Lisa is using this as a crutch to keep her phone and like I think she'll be fine I think she'll be fine there's a real issue of call production

13:48Ronnie Karam: but also I thought this call I thought this conversation was supposed to be about Lisa being late and starting fights on the plane wasn't it I don't think I didn't think it was about taking notes but now Marisol's making about her thing that's supposed to be about Stephanie doesn't want you on the plane if you're going to be late. Right? Honestly, I don't really know at this point. They've changed it.

14:09Ben Mandelker: So Marisol's like, are you kidding me? I mean, Jodi's not going to help you with your kids in an emergency? What kind of love is that? She's like, guys, I will remove myself from this beautiful rooftop presidential suite terrace next to the HVAC system, okay? Because this is bananas. Okay, you guys are trying to tell me what to do with my phone and it's nuts. It's bananas and nuts. It's actually a very nutritious snack what this all is

14:35Ronnie Karam: I feel like I'm not wanted. All right. I love you guys And Julia's like this is exactly why I don't know what to happen in Marbella This is what I don't want to happen. It's me tell her nothing and then her scream Lenny and jump off roof Lisa come back. Oh god. She got stuck on flagpole. She got stuck on flagpole somebody please bring crazy face back up please she's our friend i'm glad she wore belt

15:04Ben Mandelker: um i think that we went to commercial at this point and i would like to point something out that i feel like we've never really pointed out or if we have it's been a long time we talk a lot about how good this show is we talk about how the production design is amazing the colors are vibrant the way it's shot we talk about the music obviously the cast is doing great things storytelling everything one thing we never talk about that i absolutely love that they do on this show is that when they cut to commercial the way they bring the palm fronds into the screen i just love it no other housewives does it every other housewife if they're gonna if they're gonna cut to commercial they'll they'll cut to their title card will sort of like zoom in but the way the palm fronds come from the edges of the screen and fill up everything i mean this show just has

15:47Ronnie Karam: Guys, I don't know if Ben is mentioned, but he's really into Apple Motion and making transitions. I am. They do do a really good job on that on this show.

15:59Ben Mandelker: I appreciate their use of Apple Motion with those. Their wipes. Yeah, it's like a bunch of move things that they did, maybe with a replicator. But either way, there's just something about the show. Every little element that they add in terms of the visual presentation just kind of puts it in its own league. I just love it.

16:18Ronnie Karam: Yeah, it's a good one. This show's really well done. What do you think about the palm fronds, Ronnie? I think they're fabulous. I think the whole production on this show is good. I mean, it's just so bright and vibrant and beautiful. It's a beautiful show to look at. I mean, especially for such a silly thing, you know? It's like taking... I love that they're taking such a silly thing and putting such art into it because it's really rare that you see that on these shows. And while it's not completely rare, I mean, I think they do a really good job on Salt Lake City with the music and how they've made that so original.

16:49Ronnie Karam: I like how all the different companies are trying to make things so unique.

16:54Ben Mandelker: Yeah, they're trying to really jazz it up. Now it's nighttime. Everyone's in glam. And by everyone's in glam, I mean I think only Larsa has a makeup person, maybe Lisa. Everyone else just doing their own makeup. And Adriana comes into Gertie's room with no makeup on. And Gertie's like, what? You have no makeup on? Look at this. There's nothing. There's nothing. I'm not your makeup artist this is ridiculous

17:17Ronnie Karam: she goes you do it for me I'm not a makeup artist but she does it anyway and she goes oh my god you know we're very different looking I don't know that we're gonna have the same kind of thing and Adriana goes it's okay I like to look dark and Gertie just looks at the camera like okay what the fuck

17:35Ben Mandelker: that won't be the last time you're giving that look Gertie tonight um yeah when she said that that was soap

17:45Ronnie Karam: just so gertie looked at the camera was so funny so now they all meet downstairs and uh marisol's like kinks i'm missing it in kinks

17:57Ben Mandelker: and then they're all um kiki what was what did she do she has something on the back of her phone

18:02Ronnie Karam: she's using the thing that i used to use do you remember when we started doing crappy hour and i couldn't get my phone we were doing it on instagram live and we had to use our phones we hadn't figured out how there wasn't a way yet for us to use our regular webcams for it and so we were trying to get our phones angled at the right way to do a full hour on the thing and so i bought one of those sticky things and i would stick it to my screen right under you know under my camera so we could use both the camera and the phone camera and um it kept falling don't you remember that it

18:32Ben Mandelker: would fall every day i do i i didn't realize that's what kiki was using was it like a sticky so she had like an adhesive on the back of her phone it's a little thing you can buy for the

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21:05Ben Mandelker: This was the funniest thing ever. So she does this thing where she sticks her phone to like a wall and they're all so enamored. Like, oh my God, I can't. How did you do that? And then it's like they just become like sixth graders playing with a camcorder for the first time. They all start doing this like video and they're like just, you know, they were there for two hours just making a little video of them walking up to the camera. and then walking off camera. That was their favorite thing. I'm going to walk up to the camera, and then I'm going to walk off. Walk off. And then Marisol shows up from the bottom.

21:34Ben Mandelker: They were just like, they could have been happy if that was the rest of their entire vacation. Yeah.

21:39Ronnie Karam: Well, it was hell to get here, guys. I'm dealing with a lot, and I'm not going to give Larsa the satisfaction of driving me out of this group, so I'm coming to dinner. And they're like, okay. So are you going to come down to the lobby? She's like, no, no, I'm not going to. You guys go ahead with that. Without me, I'm running a little bit behind. And so 90 minutes earlier, we find out Marisol called her. She's like, listen, Lisa, listen, monkey, I just want to see you at dinner. You can do it, Lisa. I think it's really important you come to dinner. Who are we going to yell at, Lisa? Come to dinner.

22:12Ben Mandelker: So they all go to dinner.

22:17Ben Mandelker: And Adriana and Gertie are the last to get to the vans. And so Adriana pokes her head into Julia's van. And she's like, oh, it's Kraut. So she goes to the other van and Julie's like, oh, Adriana literally looked at me and then walked the other way. And Stephanie's like, because you're fighting. She doesn't even say, can I squeeze in? Can you even believe it? There's room for three goats in here. She can sit. So then Stephanie is like, hey, Gertie, I have some serious gossip for you. Kiki found a boyfriend in Sevilla. And we see footage of like Kiki talking to some guy. this is a little piece of gossip that goes nowhere on the show I might add yeah no one cares

22:57Ronnie Karam: well 40 years ago when I lived here I was 17 oh well why didn't you marry a Spaniard Alexia well actually I was engaged to a Spanish guy his grandfather was the owner of Pepsi Cola in Spain and I was like wow you missed that

23:10Ben Mandelker: jeez I know really I'm looking for that Pepsi Cola CEO in hopes he's single and not gay and we can put them back together because we need a big fucking band-aid. And by a big band-aid, I mean a big band-aid. Look, Josh, I want him to have a big penis for Alexia. Penises, right? Everyone, should we do the drawing bit again?

23:30Ronnie Karam: Yeah, and then I'm marrying the human embodiment of cream soda. Store brand.

23:38Ronnie Karam: Got it? Store brand? No. You know, I'd marry Coca-Cola. Penises. There we go. Love penises.

23:48Ben Mandelker: I love orange soda. I would also marry Sun Coxed. Sun Coxed soda. Get it? Cock-free sons. That's not a soda. You know what? What about Seven Cox?

24:05Ronnie Karam: So everybody comes to dinner except Lisa, of course. And Marisol's like, I need to just sit somewhere I can kick a laxie under the table. Oh, Julia and Marisol or hosting and they decided when we come back to the hotel we're going to meet up with lisa okay uh yeah well i said to her i said here's a caveat and she said what's that and i said you know the caveat and she said can i eat it i said no that's a carrot and then she wrote it down i was very very upset okay she thought i was talking about a fast casual place called kava i don't even

24:38Ben Mandelker: know what that is but you have to put your phone in a basket when you get on the plane and then you have to put your phone in a basket when you get to the house you have to put the basket in a larger basket and then put that basket in a suitcase and send that suitcase to the first basket and then the other basket back there. I do a lot of basket stuff. She couldn't follow it all. She was trying to write down, bless her heart. Her pen ran out of ink and she started to cry. It was a tough conversation.

24:59Ronnie Karam: By the way, she decided to unfollow Marcus right in front of us. She did it right in front of us, everybody. I'm so proud of her. And Marisol's like, oh, thank God, baby Jesus. Well, we're sort of like past that even. Like, I mean, like, Adriana, that's like the minimum. of him like. I don't even care about that like.

25:18Ben Mandelker: Adriana, I didn't know we were going to announce it because we all made a pact that we weren't going to announce that Adriana. We did. We did. We did.

25:28Ronnie Karam: Well, I guess I missed that part.

25:30Ben Mandelker: You were sitting right there.

25:32Ronnie Karam: No, but I was looking at the birds. I was looking at the birds and then we see the clip. They literally made a pinky promise. Gertie's like, okay, we're going to promise. We're going to remember by linking our pinkies that we're going to promise not to tell anybody. Everybody know that's what linking a pinky means okay link you link your pinky you link your pinky adriana it's like a physical thing they all did she's like although i don't know i was watching birds so

25:55Ben Mandelker: actually but when you watch it you see that like um lisa gertie and kiki do the pinky thing and adriana's just sitting there sort of zoning out and they're like adriana and they pull her hand into it so i think that she just was not paying attention like i think she that she was truthfully looking at the birds. That's so funny. But either way, it's so funny. So she does that. So then Lisa, meanwhile, Lisa comes in like, va, va, va. I mean, she looks great. I mean, she has this outfit on and she's like, yeah, I'm going to dinner. So she comes in. They're all eating their entrees.

26:26Ronnie Karam: She would have been there half an hour earlier if they didn't take a whole setup on the street to watch her walk slowly across the street or across the crosswalk. You know, they did that 10 times for traffic to not be in the crosswalk.

26:38Ben Mandelker: But they're all eating their entrees and she walks in I'm like, wait, you're at your, they're at the entrees and you're walking in during their entrees. I'm sorry. That's just so rude and inappropriate. Like that's just, that's ridiculous. Um, so Larsa goes, who shows up two hours late and acts like everything's okay. Like, and then the caption says only one hour late as if it's like, Oh, only one hour. No big deal. One hour late to a dinner.

27:03Ronnie Karam: Guess where she lives. She lives in a place called to do like you land. Like she's like to do like you like.

27:10Ben Mandelker: to Lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-lu-land. Yeah, I like.

27:14Ronnie Karam: She's French yoga pants to Lu-lu.

27:17Ben Mandelker: So, Kiki goes, Lisa, we made, we made a promise not to say anything, but Adriana ran her mouth and Adriana's like, no, it's not like that though. She's like, it was like that. Kiki, stop being so ratchet. And Kiki is like, everyone's like, cause like, that is a loaded comment to say. Gertie, Gertie screamed.

27:38Ronnie Karam: She's like, oh, yeah.

27:41Ben Mandelker: it's so loaded coming from a non-black woman and going and like you we all know how that hits and we know how inappropriate it is for her to say that and kiki like the look on kiki's face is like what excuse me i mean it was like everyone's like oh my god it was idiotic when gertie squealed like

28:02Ronnie Karam: gordy gertie scream squealed and i died laughing i was like that was so so funny and adriana's like what what i was and kiki goes what do you mean stop being so ratchet and she goes because i was breaking good news and he's like no that's fucked up she goes no it's good news and she's no i'm talking about you calling me ratchet and alexi's like oh my god i'm gonna choke on a bone i'm gonna

28:24Ben Mandelker: choke on a bone in a good way or a bad way bro like a penis like a penis bro okay keeks is having a fight we should watch so the kiki i mean kiki is rightfully furious because it is it was just wildly inappropriate you know for adriana to say that and kiki is like so he's like you're the ratchet the ratchet of them all you're the most ratchet of them all we made a promise and you called me ratchet she goes i didn't see a promise it's like did you call me ratchet and julia is like adriana don't react kiki is overreacting i'm like okay julia we do not need you to come in to step in here and say who is overreacting.

29:00Ben Mandelker: I think Kiki's reaction is 100 % valid and 100 % deserved and not an overreaction whatsoever.

29:07Ronnie Karam: Yeah, nobody needs fucking problematic ass of Julia being the arbiter of what's problematic or what's not. And so Kiki's like, what? She called me Ratchet. Now I'll go Ratchet for real on her ass. And Gertie's like, let me look it up. I'm going to look it up for you, audience. Ratchet, what does it mean? R-A-T-C-H-E-T low class or out of control used in a disparaging or complimentary way? What?

29:34Ben Mandelker: Wait a minute. Who wrote this? Second definition. A word used by Hannah Burner excessively on Summer House. Still doesn't clarify anything.

29:45Ronnie Karam: And Stephanie's like, I think Adriana must have meant to use a different word. There's no way that she meant to use that word, right? She knew that, right?

29:56Ben Mandelker: so alexia then like says oh you know she used the wrong word all these women they use the wrong words all the time they always use the wrong words okay could someone pass me the uh could

30:04Ronnie Karam: someone pass i dare you i don't even know what you're gonna try but i dare you

30:11Ben Mandelker: would you would you say could someone pass me the hp printer i'm sorry i meant the water

30:16Ronnie Karam: sorry i used the wrong word again i'm like desperately looking around my office for like

30:21Ben Mandelker: Oh no, Ben, you're making a joke about using the wrong word, but you can't even come up with a word to use as a wrong word. Can someone please pass me the Google router, please?

30:32Ronnie Karam: That's like saying ghetto. It's not nice. You're not supposed to say that. You called me ratchet because you're trying to throw me under a bus. And she's like, you are too old to be talking about this to people. Oh my God, Kiki, stop.

30:46Ben Mandelker: What a beautiful response. response because not only did Kiki say you're too old the way she said old she goes you are too old like she she just emphasized it in such a good way it's like that is the ultimate that is the ultimate taboo that is the ultimate the ultimate taboo on Real Housewives is to call someone old and not only did she call someone old and and she's right Adriana is too old to be saying these things as in you're you're you're you're too smart you can't be stupid and smart at the same time she's and the fact that she emphasized old to someone on this show on this show especially

31:22Ronnie Karam: i was like okay now it's on here we go here we go oh i'm old because you are the same age as my fucking mom you're the ratchet one of course you're old yes you're old you want to deny it you want to deny being old and alexia is like she's old i mean she's older i mean i don't know I'm old too. I don't know.

31:45Ben Mandelker: Adriana's like, oh, I'm old. So I guess I'm expired. It's ageism. Okay. You know what? Why don't you just send a tour guide to come look at me and all my title work because I'm some old. I'm old like a palace, like Alcazar. Don't mind me. I'm just old.

32:03Ronnie Karam: Oh, that's typical Adriana. She says the most ridiculous thing. She just accused me of being old and then thankfully the editors put it in. Shut up, you old whore! Get plastic surgery on your wrinkled knees because they need it!

32:17Ben Mandelker: She literally just age-shamed Marisol. Time out, time out, time out, time out, time out! You guys are Delulu. Okay, Delulu, time out. You guys, in order for us to get back to a Delulu place where we can all coexist and see the good and Delulu in each other, we have to understand that we have friends. We're going to be friends. And we are just, what we need is Jesus. We need Jesus. No. We need common sense like.

32:45Ronnie Karam: For Kiki, you can only be friends if you're young. Okay? So if you're old, you can no longer be friends. That's what she said.

32:52Ben Mandelker: Alright guys, let's have a lovely time. I want to apologize to everybody about yesterday. I wanted to remove myself and I did and I dealt with it myself and anyone want to take my phone? Look at me. I'm handing off an olive branch, although it's a phone, but it could be an olive branch.

33:07Ronnie Karam: And they're just looking at her like, this is not about you right now you know and she's like no no i want to clarify in the last two and a half years i'm constantly taking notes because the lawyers you know and whoever else is gonna say i gotta take notes because of everything okay well i'm sorry i gotta get back to miami because i have to babysit her kids because that's what grandmothers do so bye goodbye everybody goodbye i have to go get in a cocoon like old people bye

33:34Ben Mandelker: sorry i have to go find morgan freeman to drive me around and i have to make sure i tell my story to kathy bates she's just gonna go to every jessica tandy role oh sorry i have little robot aliens living in my tenement right now that are repairing things sorry battery's not included

33:51Ronnie Karam: are you kidding me old people have to babysit her kids for her that's what she said oh no now now You know who's taking care of my mother? Me. It's me who's taking care of her. Oh, respect. Respect. Respect. Respect. Indiana, stop. Respect. Stop it. Respect. I'm done. So Stephanie rises up all of a sudden and starts crying. She's like, I'm done. There's no way I'm taking a single chance to do something nice for Julia. This shit happens again. This is the third dinner that all of you guys have ruined. I am leaving. And Adriana leaves too. She goes, I'm leaving too. Goodbye, says the old person.

34:32Ronnie Karam: She goes, you're not coming with me.

34:34Ben Mandelker: She's like, this is my scene. She's like, no, no, no. I love that she turned to Adrian and was like, no, you're not coming with me. This is my storm out, not your storm out too. We are not allies in this. You sit down. I'm leaving.

34:44Ronnie Karam: She's like, well, I got to go babysit her kids so she can party.

34:48Ben Mandelker: Seven is like, no, I'm not going with you. All you guys are crazy. Honestly, I'm embarrassed. Listen, we are in Spain. They don't do this here.

34:56Ronnie Karam: okay cut to last night being like i don't want them to know we are american okay i don't want

35:03Ben Mandelker: them to know i think that ship has sailed i don't want them to know we're american the way i can cruise the camera cruise and the screaming all night was a little bit of a tip-off

35:17Ronnie Karam: so funny so she gets up to leave with marisol now they're walking out with them so lisa is like oh sorry other tables sorry and she goes up to this teenage guy she's like sorry sorry okay everybody drinks on the i guess the house i don't know i'm not paying for that they're paying for that right

35:34Ben Mandelker: the restaurant will get it she's like sorry guys for making a scene and then she walks away she trips and falls over and almost falls on her face it's like removed that chamber got my way and watching her trip she trips in such a funny way i watch it like five different times she's like it's like it was like some weird like super mario skidding or something like that it was

35:55Ronnie Karam: impressive because she tripped but she caught herself on her stiletto heel and then was like wobbling and like somehow managed to like wobble it back straight i mean that's talent

36:06Ben Mandelker: oh god it was so so funny so down by the vans so now you have all the people who stormed out but not adriana adriana tried to storm out with the group but they i don't know where did adriana wind up staying with the table because because uh she did not get to be part of the storm out van so we have marisol and she's like well tonight escalated because the keeks and adriana i mean lisa you know lisa lisa and you larsa larsa because larsa's with them too she's like you know lisa and you larsa were moving forward i thought it's like oh but you know it's always something it's always something and then stephanie is in the way back of this van and she's claustrophobic and she's like guys guys i'm getting claustrophobic in the air are we gonna move or what like i can't i can't do this anymore i'm getting such a phobic she's so ridiculous so

36:49Ronnie Karam: now she's crying nothing happened to stephanie nothing she's just trying to take everybody else's shit it was so funny so now they get back to the hotel stephanie's crying and she's like no no i like i i don't i'm good we can't just take some and leave other people on the plane and then oh now what am i supposed to do who am i supposed to kick off so now we have to watch stephanie cry to decide who she's going to kick off of her old man ball plane yeah and um marisol's

37:18Ben Mandelker: like oh my god it was so embarrassing i mean you know at least lisa you know last night she kept a normal tone but those two are just absolutely disgusting i really actually thought it was offensive that like it became a discussion of like wow kiki and adriana were so loud and terrible because I feel like Kiki, like, I feel like Kiki was, it was really offensive what Adriana said. I think Kiki was allowed to have an emotional moment. And the fact that they're kind of like making it that like both Kiki and Adriana were out of control. Adriana was out of control. Adriana was wrong here and Kiki was reacting.

37:53Ben Mandelker: I just don't think that Kiki should have been lumped into this like -

37:55Ronnie Karam: Well, Kiki was also yelling at the restaurant. I mean, I think that Kiki was -

38:00Ben Mandelker: Alexia was yelling the night before.

38:01Ronnie Karam: Well, that's the thing. Any of these ladies acting like the other ones are not behaving and they're so embarrassed is hilarious because they all act like assholes in public. They're always screaming at each other in public. It's not the first time this has happened. So them acting like, oh my god, I can't believe she... I mean, we just saw it with Gertie this season when Gertie gets water thrown all over her, but Gertie's the asshole.

38:23Ben Mandelker: You know? Yeah, exactly. And I just feel like Kiki had, of all the outbursts that we saw over the past two nights of two nights of dinners, Kiki's, I felt, was the one that was most earned because I think she had something that was such a... I thought so too, yeah. And I think it was just, I just didn't like this whole vibe of like, oh, like she is as, like the false equivalency of like, oh, well, she and Adriana, they're both just being terrible. It's like, no, Kiki like had something terrible that was said to her.

38:48Ronnie Karam: Well, yeah, the conversation should have been like, Adriana is just throwing out like casually racist terms at somebody. Like, what the fuck? And that never even came up. Like nobody even said that. Like, I don't know if they didn't get it.

39:02Ben Mandelker: Or at least problematic. more than maybe not maybe not outwardly maybe not i don't know if it like if it's all the way at the level of like racist probably could be but at the very least problematic and um she should have known better and i don't know i just i just didn't like the way that then they were like oh they're being so on they're being so uncouth when like marit like marisol to be fair marisol rarely yells because she doesn't have that energy but alexia alexia has meltdowns in public all the time constantly

39:30Ronnie Karam: and Stephanie just stood up and walked out and had a fit in front of a whole restaurant and she wasn't even involved in anything they're all ridiculous and then Lisa comes in anybody in this cast getting pissed off at yelling is ridiculous but yeah I was surprised that Adriana got away with nobody even calling her out on how problematic that was and I'm wondering if they're thinking because I think even at one point someone was like maybe it was when Alexi was saying I don't think they understand the words like people don't know words you know and i wonder if that was that was the closest we got to somebody being like i don't think she knew what she was saying i think that's what they then maybe that's what they're thinking because that's crazy gertie did say it's like saying

40:13Ben Mandelker: you're ghetto and so like it just has a very loaded it's a very loaded thing to say yeah

40:19Ronnie Karam: and um i feel like we all pretty much know better in 2025 but we should know better jesus and i

40:26Ben Mandelker: I think that may be the reason why I think that Gertie, I'm not Gertie, Kiki, Kiki had such a great, you know, like counterattack by calling her old. It was so it was so pure and it was so effective that there's almost an element of like justice was served. But but yeah, like it's it's still it still is not right at all.

40:48Ronnie Karam: So Stephanie is now crying. and so they sit down at the hotel bar and Lars is like I mean like I feel like even when I have words like I talk low I'm just not like one of those people to yell yeah you've been yelling in public multiple times just in this trip and she goes yeah it's like like even if the house was on fire I would just be like the house is on fire I wouldn't be like the house is on fire like I would be like the house is on fire house is on fire like

41:16Ben Mandelker: house is on fire like so they're all laughing about larsa having a quiet voice and then stephanie is like like i'm like actually so surprised that alexia is really there for me she's making me feel really good and i feel like i'm seeing some light at the end of this dark tunnel with alexia making you feel good about what nothing happened to you you stormed out of a dinner at the real

41:37Ronnie Karam: housewives she's crying and having a fit and alexia's like oh you know why you're crying because like you you're not used to it like we're used to it so we don't care about like you're you're new, so you don't know. But this is how it gets. And she's like, oh my God, she's being so nice to me in my dark times.

41:53Ben Mandelker: So then Stephanie starts coming up. She has all these papers they have to sign, I guess, to go on the plane. But she then decides that she is going to draw out a schematic where they're going to figure out the seating arrangements on the plane so that way no one has to sit next to anyone they don't want to. Of course, when she does this, she yells across the entire hotel lobby to the receptionist like can I get a pencil instead of going up and getting a pencil like any normal human would be would do so um she sits there and she starts drawing up this map and she is on such a paratrip with this map and she's like arranging I can't even follow it she's saying something about there's like a criminal seat is that where Adriana's gonna sit because there's different

42:31Ronnie Karam: sections of the plane so they can cordon people off into different rooms I think so she's like this is the criminal area so someone will be alone back here and then no one can you know they can't start fights so i think we should put there and if they disrespect me for 22 minutes they drive back and marisol's like yeah you know i think this is a lot i mean she's taking those plane and using it as a weapon and she goes oh my but we can put them in there because there's a door and it closes there's a full door like a door we could just lock them in there it's like a door

43:01Ben Mandelker: it's a door it's like a door it's like it's an actual door guys it's like yes we understand what a door is i mean the eyes laid it's seen here and it makes me feel like everyone's being punished and it's just not sitting well with me, pun intended, because we're talking about a seating chart and I just don't want any part of it, although I will take full part of it.

43:18Ronnie Karam: Yeah, while I say I don't want any part of it, I'm going to sit here and help with a seating chart and not say anything. So I'm going to stand against it. And she goes, and also I don't want people wearing zippers on their clothes and cutting my seats. So we're going to have to do something about that too. Oh, and also I don't know if you guys understand how much I don't like pooping. Alexia's just looking at her like, I liked you four or five minutes.

43:42Ben Mandelker: Yeah, this is way too many strings attached. Also, you're so wealthy enough that you can have your own large private plane that you can't get material that can hold up to a zipper. Well, then you are lame.

43:56Ronnie Karam: Yeah, she sucks. And I think she actually had a decent episode. Most of the episode, I was kind of enjoying Stephanie. And then I was like, oh no, yeah, she still sucks. But yeah, boo. Boo, man. But for the whole episode, wow, what a great episode. And it just ends with Marisol going, this is why I drink. That's classic Marisol.

44:16Ben Mandelker: Yeah. Great episode, though, overall. So entertaining. And the trip continues. We're going to see how this all pans out. Thanks, everyone, for being here. Oh, and by the way, you know what I just realized? We're recording this. We're recording this out of time. But the day that this airs, Ronnie, I can't believe I didn't say this to the top of the episode. 50 years old. Happy 50th birthday. Oh my God.

44:41Ronnie Karam: You're telling me every day. You're so sweet. We did a bonus episode. We did this one. Then we're going to record again on Monday.

44:49Ben Mandelker: But it's just funny because we, yeah, because it's, the time is all off, but I forgot that this is actually airing on Ronnie's birthday. So everyone give Ronnie a huge amount of birthday love because this is a big one. Oh, thank you. And we love you, Ronnie. I made it to 50. Who knew? Cool. Didn't see that one coming. You did it. Well, you've given me at the very least 20 great years of laughs and love and friendship.

45:13Ronnie Karam: I love you, Ben.

45:14Ben Mandelker: I'm honored to have been along the ride with you for that amount of time and looking forward to 20 more years and 20 more years after that. We love you and hope you celebrate. Have a great 50th birthday celebration. Everyone give Ronnie some love. Thank you, Ben. Love you.

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